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Lucas
09-27-2019, 10:06 AM
Taken from https://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1008417


The Roma population is the largest transnational ethnic minority in Europe, characterized by a linguistic, cultural and historical heterogeneity. Comparative linguistics and genetic studies have placed the origin of European Roma in the Northwest of India. After their migration across Persia, they entered into the Balkan Peninsula, from where they spread into Europe, arriving in the Iberian Peninsula in the 15th century. Their particular demographic history has genetic implications linked to rare and common diseases. However, the South Asian source of the proto-Roma remains still untargeted and the West Eurasian Roma component has not been yet deeply characterized. Here, in order to describe both the South Asian and West Eurasian ancestries, we analyze previously published genome-wide data of 152 European Roma and 34 new Iberian Roma samples at a fine-scale and haplotype-based level, with special focus on the Iberian Roma genetic substructure. Our results suggest that the putative origin of the proto-Roma involves a Punjabi group with low levels of West Eurasian ancestry. In addition, we have identified a complex West Eurasian component (around 65%) in the Roma, as a result of the admixture events occurred with non-proto-Roma populations between 1270–1580. Particularly, we have detected the Balkan genetic footprint in all European Roma, and the Baltic and Iberian components in the Northern and Western Roma groups, respectively. Finally, our results show genetic substructure within the Iberian Roma, with different levels of West Eurasian admixture, as a result of the complex historical events occurred in the Peninsula.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitanos

Regional Gitano samples

TV2797799 Barcelona GRA1
LM6294965 Granada MAL1
LF6564944 Bilbao 06_07
NR1317060 Porto SAJ04

Kits should be ready soon.

Lucas
09-27-2019, 10:37 AM
Gedmatch is slow today. checked locally in K36.

Barcelona GRA1

K36
Amerindian: 0.11%
Arabian: 5.61%
Armenian: 1.17%
Basque: 1.84%
Central African: 0.00%
Central Euro: 0.00%
East African: 0.00%
East Asian: 0.00%
East Balkan: 0.00%
East Central Asian: 0.00%
East Central Euro: 5.90%
East Med: 2.40%
Eastern Euro: 0.00%
Fennoscandian: 3.10%
French: 1.99%
Iberian: 16.92%
Indo-Chinese: 0.00%
Italian: 12.10%
Malayan: 0.00%
Near Eastern: 2.33%
North African: 4.98%
North Atlantic: 0.61%
North Caucasian: 0.33%
North Sea: 11.73%
Northeast African: 0.00%
Oceanian: 0.00%
Omotic: 0.00%
Pygmy: 0.20%
Siberian: 0.00%
South Asian: 14.94%
South Central Asian: 3.94%
South Chinese: 0.00%
Volga-Ural: 1.24%
West African: 0.00%
West Caucasian: 3.49%
West Med: 5.07%


Bilbao 06_07

K36
Amerindian: 0.00%
Arabian: 2.07%
Armenian: 7.77%
Basque: 3.00%
Central African: 0.00%
Central Euro: 3.62%
East African: 0.00%
East Asian: 0.00%
East Balkan: 0.00%
East Central Asian: 0.00%
East Central Euro: 0.74%
East Med: 1.74%
Eastern Euro: 2.91%
Fennoscandian: 0.58%
French: 3.86%
Iberian: 4.53%
Indo-Chinese: 0.00%
Italian: 10.63%
Malayan: 2.79%
Near Eastern: 10.81%
North African: 0.00%
North Atlantic: 4.32%
North Caucasian: 2.97%
North Sea: 0.00%
Northeast African: 0.00%
Oceanian: 0.00%
Omotic: 0.00%
Pygmy: 0.00%
Siberian: 0.00%
South Asian: 20.77%
South Central Asian: 9.59%
South Chinese: 0.00%
Volga-Ural: 0.00%
West African: 0.00%
West Caucasian: 1.04%
West Med: 6.28%


Granada MAL1

K36
Amerindian: 0.73%
Arabian: 3.28%
Armenian: 1.46%
Basque: 0.00%
Central African: 0.00%
Central Euro: 1.78%
East African: 0.00%
East Asian: 0.00%
East Balkan: 3.83%
East Central Asian: 0.34%
East Central Euro: 3.79%
East Med: 12.37%
Eastern Euro: 5.13%
Fennoscandian: 1.70%
French: 0.00%
Iberian: 9.83%
Indo-Chinese: 0.00%
Italian: 9.35%
Malayan: 0.00%
Near Eastern: 0.00%
North African: 2.02%
North Atlantic: 0.00%
North Caucasian: 2.27%
North Sea: 3.76%
Northeast African: 0.00%
Oceanian: 0.49%
Omotic: 0.04%
Pygmy: 0.00%
Siberian: 0.00%
South Asian: 28.01%
South Central Asian: 5.94%
South Chinese: 0.00%
Volga-Ural: 0.00%
West African: 0.00%
West Caucasian: 0.74%
West Med: 3.12%



Porto SAJ04

K36
Amerindian: 0.00%
Arabian: 0.00%
Armenian: 6.56%
Basque: 1.83%
Central African: 0.00%
Central Euro: 1.97%
East African: 0.00%
East Asian: 0.00%
East Balkan: 3.57%
East Central Asian: 0.00%
East Central Euro: 0.00%
East Med: 9.05%
Eastern Euro: 0.00%
Fennoscandian: 4.37%
French: 0.00%
Iberian: 11.79%
Indo-Chinese: 0.00%
Italian: 15.61%
Malayan: 1.04%
Near Eastern: 6.83%
North African: 2.66%
North Atlantic: 3.52%
North Caucasian: 0.23%
North Sea: 0.00%
Northeast African: 0.00%
Oceanian: 2.69%
Omotic: 0.00%
Pygmy: 0.00%
Siberian: 0.00%
South Asian: 23.07%
South Central Asian: 0.85%
South Chinese: 0.00%
Volga-Ural: 0.00%
West African: 0.00%
West Caucasian: 4.35%
West Med: 0.00%

Lucas
09-27-2019, 03:14 PM
Those samples on Gedmatch still aren't processed... If not in the evening I will upload again.

vbnetkhio
09-27-2019, 03:23 PM
Those samples on Gedmatch still aren't processed... If not in the evening I will upload again.

there's nothing wrong with the kits, gedmatch just turns off the automatic processing for everybody sometimes. that happened to me, they didn't get processed until the next day.

Leto
09-27-2019, 05:05 PM
The kits won't work.

JosephK
09-27-2019, 09:24 PM
They're working now...

Leto
09-27-2019, 09:30 PM
Kit TV2797799 Barcelona GRA1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 27.55
2 NE-Euro 23.16
3 Caucasian 15.7
4 S-Indian 13.66
5 Baloch 11.71
6 SW-Asian 6.39
7 E-African 0.92
8 American 0.48
9 Pygmy 0.3
10 Siberian 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 italian (hgdp) 18.13
2 tuscan (hapmap) 18.28
3 tuscan (hgdp) 18.41
4 tuscan (1000genomes) 18.57
5 romanian-b (behar) 19.41
6 romanian-a (behar) 19.88
7 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 21.35
8 spaniard (behar) 22.24
9 ashkenazi (harappa) 22.3
10 spaniard (1000genomes) 22.65
11 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 23.61
12 french (hgdp) 23.95
13 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 24.65
14 morocco-jew (behar) 27.04
15 hungarian (behar) 27.09
16 sephardic-jew (behar) 27.99
17 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 28.63
18 slovenian (xing) 28.63
19 utahn-white (1000genomes) 30.16
20 puerto-rican (bryc) 30.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.6% italian (hgdp) + 27.4% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 2.63
2 74.3% italian (hgdp) + 25.7% dharkar (metspalu) @ 2.66
3 74.7% italian (hgdp) + 25.3% kanjar (metspalu) @ 2.67
4 76.4% italian (hgdp) + 23.6% naidu (reich) @ 2.69
5 74.3% italian (hgdp) + 25.7% kerala-muslim (harappa) @ 2.71
6 73.4% italian (hgdp) + 26.6% bihari (harappa) @ 2.71
7 75.4% italian (hgdp) + 24.6% up-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 2.76
8 74.9% italian (hgdp) + 25.1% andhra-pradesh (harappa) @ 2.8
9 73.6% italian (hgdp) + 26.4% srivastava (reich) @ 2.81
10 74.3% italian (hgdp) + 25.7% up-muslim (metspalu) @ 2.83
11 76.1% italian (hgdp) + 23.9% tamil-nadar (harappa) @ 2.84
12 73.3% italian (hgdp) + 26.7% caribbean-indian (harappa) @ 2.86
13 76.2% italian (hgdp) + 23.8% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 2.87
14 75.6% italian (hgdp) + 24.4% sinhalese (harappa) @ 2.87
15 73.3% italian (hgdp) + 26.7% up (harappa) @ 2.87
16 74.7% italian (hgdp) + 25.3% tamil (harappa) @ 2.87
17 74.7% italian (hgdp) + 25.3% tharu (metspalu) @ 2.89
18 76.1% italian (hgdp) + 23.9% dusadh (metspalu) @ 2.89
19 75.8% italian (hgdp) + 24.2% lodi (reich) @ 2.91
20 73.6% italian (hgdp) + 26.4% ap-brahmin (xing) @ 2.95


Kit LM6294965 Granada MAL1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 23
2 Caucasian 20.39
3 NE-Euro 17.87
4 Mediterranean 15.12
5 Baloch 13.75
6 SW-Asian 6.8
7 Siberian 2.18
8 Pygmy 0.48
9 Papuan 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-b (behar) 7
2 bene-israel-jew (behar) 24.01
3 pashtun (harappa) 24.51
4 turkmen (yunusbayev) 26.04
5 tajik (yunusbayev) 26.28
6 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 26.44
7 ashkenazi (harappa) 26.79
8 haryana-jatt (harappa) 26.96
9 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 27.24
10 up-muslim (harappa) 27.93
11 kashmiri (harappa) 28.22
12 romanian-a (behar) 28.39
13 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 28.76
14 tuscan (1000genomes) 28.83
15 tuscan (hgdp) 29.01
16 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 29.09
17 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 29.16
18 tuscan (hapmap) 29.2
19 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 29.55
20 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 29.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.1% ashkenazi (harappa) + 40.9% srivastava (reich) @ 4.73
2 62.3% ashkenazi (harappa) + 37.7% up-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 5
3 61.3% ashkenazi (harappa) + 38.7% kanjar (metspalu) @ 5.04
4 52.7% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 47.3% cochin-jew (behar) @ 5.09
5 90.4% romanian-b (behar) + 9.6% orcadian (hgdp) @ 5.1
6 58.8% ashkenazi (harappa) + 41.2% caribbean-indian (harappa) @ 5.19
7 63.5% ashkenazi (harappa) + 36.5% kol (metspalu) @ 5.23
8 90.3% romanian-b (behar) + 9.7% british (1000genomes) @ 5.24
9 90.4% romanian-b (behar) + 9.6% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 5.29
10 91.5% romanian-b (behar) + 8.5% russian (hgdp) @ 5.32
11 60.4% ashkenazi (harappa) + 39.6% up-muslim (metspalu) @ 5.33
12 90.3% romanian-b (behar) + 9.7% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 5.33
13 90.1% romanian-b (behar) + 9.9% chuvash (behar) @ 5.33
14 62.9% ashkenazi (harappa) + 37.1% lodi (reich) @ 5.33
15 90.3% romanian-b (behar) + 9.7% n-european (xing) @ 5.34
16 93.4% romanian-b (behar) + 6.6% finnish (1000genomes) @ 5.35
17 92.5% romanian-b (behar) + 7.5% lithuanian (behar) @ 5.38
18 58.9% ashkenazi (harappa) + 41.1% bihari (harappa) @ 5.44
19 91.2% romanian-b (behar) + 8.8% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 5.46
20 61.2% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 38.8% tamil-nadar (harappa) @ 5.47


Kit LF6564944 Bilbao 06_07

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 20.58
2 S-Indian 18.35
3 Mediterranean 18.32
4 NE-Euro 16.26
5 Baloch 14.77
6 SW-Asian 7.85
7 SE-Asian 2.62
8 Papuan 0.66
9 American 0.59

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-b (behar) 7.76
2 ashkenazi (harappa) 23.09
3 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 23.27
4 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 24.06
5 turkmen (yunusbayev) 24.88
6 tuscan (1000genomes) 24.91
7 tuscan (hgdp) 25.07
8 tuscan (hapmap) 25.26
9 pashtun (harappa) 25.3
10 tajik (yunusbayev) 25.64
11 romanian-a (behar) 26.25
12 morocco-jew (behar) 26.28
13 bene-israel-jew (behar) 26.3
14 sephardic-jew (behar) 26.37
15 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 26.95
16 italian (hgdp) 28.4
17 turkish (harappa) 28.56
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 28.63
19 haryana-jatt (harappa) 28.79
20 iraqi-arab (harappa) 29.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.6% tuscan (1000genomes) + 41.4% cochin-jew (behar) @ 3.35
2 63.6% tuscan (1000genomes) + 36.4% kerala-muslim (harappa) @ 3.48
3 64.1% tuscan (1000genomes) + 35.9% tamil (harappa) @ 3.76
4 62.6% tuscan (1000genomes) + 37.4% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 3.78
5 52% bene-israel-jew (behar) + 48% italian (hgdp) @ 3.89
6 66% ashkenazi (harappa) + 34% dharkar (metspalu) @ 3.91
7 66.5% ashkenazi (harappa) + 33.5% kanjar (metspalu) @ 3.93
8 87.4% romanian-b (behar) + 12.6% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 3.94
9 64.6% tuscan (1000genomes) + 35.4% andhra-pradesh (harappa) @ 4.02
10 63.5% ashkenazi (harappa) + 36.5% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 4.04
11 87.8% romanian-b (behar) + 12.2% basque (hgdp) @ 4.05
12 63.2% tuscan (1000genomes) + 36.8% ap-hyderabad (harappa) @ 4.05
13 62.6% tuscan (1000genomes) + 37.4% bihari (harappa) @ 4.1
14 64.8% ashkenazi (harappa) + 35.2% srivastava (reich) @ 4.14
15 66.5% tuscan (1000genomes) + 33.5% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 4.16
16 65.8% tuscan (1000genomes) + 34.2% sinhalese (harappa) @ 4.18
17 64.4% ashkenazi (harappa) + 35.6% bihari (harappa) @ 4.2
18 61.2% tuscan (1000genomes) + 38.8% bengali (harappa) @ 4.2
19 65.2% tuscan (1000genomes) + 34.8% karnataka (harappa) @ 4.22
20 64.4% ashkenazi (harappa) + 35.6% caribbean-indian (harappa) @ 4.23


Kit NR1317060 Porto SAJ04

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 22.47
2 S-Indian 18.06
3 Mediterranean 17.96
4 NE-Euro 16.51
5 Baloch 12.5
6 SW-Asian 8.54
7 Papuan 2.07
8 SE-Asian 0.94
9 Pygmy 0.46
10 E-African 0.29
11 NE-Asian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-b (behar) 6.82
2 ashkenazi (harappa) 21.29
3 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 21.53
4 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 22.56
5 tuscan (1000genomes) 23.75
6 tuscan (hgdp) 23.97
7 tuscan (hapmap) 24.21
8 sephardic-jew (behar) 24.71
9 morocco-jew (behar) 24.81
10 turkmen (yunusbayev) 25.07
11 romanian-a (behar) 25.28
12 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 25.75
13 pashtun (harappa) 26.78
14 tajik (yunusbayev) 26.81
15 bene-israel-jew (behar) 27.24
16 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 27.27
17 turkish (harappa) 27.45
18 italian (hgdp) 27.82
19 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 28.05
20 iraqi-arab (harappa) 28.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85% romanian-b (behar) + 15% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 2.88
2 88.7% romanian-b (behar) + 11.3% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 3.22
3 89.1% romanian-b (behar) + 10.9% basque (hgdp) @ 3.32
4 85.9% romanian-b (behar) + 14.1% french (hgdp) @ 3.42
5 69.9% ashkenazi (harappa) + 30.1% up-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 3.45
6 69.1% ashkenazi (harappa) + 30.9% kanjar (metspalu) @ 3.46
7 66.3% ashkenazi (harappa) + 33.7% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 3.48
8 67% ashkenazi (harappa) + 33% caribbean-indian (harappa) @ 3.52
9 70.3% ashkenazi (harappa) + 29.7% lodi (reich) @ 3.54
10 70.7% ashkenazi (harappa) + 29.3% dusadh (metspalu) @ 3.61
11 70.9% ashkenazi (harappa) + 29.1% kol (metspalu) @ 3.66
12 68.4% ashkenazi (harappa) + 31.6% up-muslim (metspalu) @ 3.7
13 68.7% ashkenazi (harappa) + 31.3% dharkar (metspalu) @ 3.71
14 67.5% ashkenazi (harappa) + 32.5% srivastava (reich) @ 3.78
15 82.9% romanian-b (behar) + 17.1% italian (hgdp) @ 3.79
16 88.3% romanian-b (behar) + 11.7% british (1000genomes) @ 3.86
17 67.2% ashkenazi (harappa) + 32.8% bihari (harappa) @ 3.87
18 88% romanian-b (behar) + 12% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 3.91
19 68.9% ashkenazi (harappa) + 31.1% tharu (metspalu) @ 3.92
20 88.9% romanian-b (behar) + 11.1% orcadian (hgdp) @ 3.94

Lucas
09-28-2019, 05:32 PM
Kit TV2797799 Barcelona GRA1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 27.55
2 NE-Euro 23.16
3 Caucasian 15.7
4 S-Indian 13.66
5 Baloch 11.71
6 SW-Asian 6.39
7 E-African 0.92
8 American 0.48
9 Pygmy 0.3
10 Siberian 0.13



Harappa?

Leto
09-28-2019, 05:35 PM
Harappa?
Yes. They are barely 1/4 South Indian.

Bakha
09-28-2019, 05:36 PM
I am afraid to write this but i am really honest person so i must confess...i share dna with 1 of them...

Lucas
09-28-2019, 07:37 PM
I am afraid to write this but i am really honest person so i must confess...i share dna with 1 of them...

Mortimer would be glad.

Kamal900
09-28-2019, 07:40 PM
It just basically confirms our analysis in regards to the Roma being mixed with MENA and European populations which makes them distinct from South Asians as a whole.

Mortimer
09-29-2019, 03:15 AM
Cool. So they are from Punjab. And low levels of westeuroasian ancestry in the proto-roma means they have been dalits or low castes. The upper castes have higher levels of westeuroasian ancestry. 65% westeuroasian admixture is alot coming from a new source. Thats alot of new admixture.

KuriousKatKommittee
09-29-2019, 05:49 AM
3 61.3% ashkenazi (harappa) +

6 66% ashkenazi (harappa) +

5 69.9% ashkenazi (harappa) +

That's legit interesting.

Pine
09-29-2019, 07:19 PM
I am afraid to write this but i am really honest person so i must confess...i share dna with 1 of them...

I share DNA with them too.

Cernunnos
09-29-2019, 07:31 PM
Well not surprising, the one with the lowest South Asian, scores almost 20%. The highest around 35%. The average Iberian Gypsie probably is a balanced mix of South Asian, MENA and European.

They are very dark tho, on average, and their skin is typical from Iraq or Iran. Some of them can even pass in India, but not the almost black southern parts of India...

Bakha
09-29-2019, 07:32 PM
I share DNA with them too.
Why i read this, goddamit

SharpFork
09-29-2019, 11:07 PM
Yeah it's weird how dark they are, it could be confirmation bias but still.


Cool. So they are from Punjab. And low levels of westeuroasian ancestry in the proto-roma means they have been dalits or low castes. The upper castes have higher levels of westeuroasian ancestry. 65% westeuroasian admixture is alot coming from a new source. Thats alot of new admixture.
Didn't Y-DNA basically confirm this? Ridiculously low level of R1a.

Mortimer
09-29-2019, 11:09 PM
Yeah it's weird how dark they are, it could be confirmation bias but still.


Didn't Y-DNA basically confirm this? Ridiculously low level of R1a.

Yes there was a study before confirming they descendt from domba dalit tribes in northwestern india.

SharpFork
09-29-2019, 11:12 PM
Yes there was a study before confirming they descendt from domba dalit tribes in northwestern india.
BTW how much Indian(in general, not just "South Eurasian") are you?

Mortimer
09-29-2019, 11:16 PM
BTW how much Indian(in general, not just "South Eurasian") are you?

On 23andme Im 12-14% Central&Southasian some of that is central asian not indian though but most of it is indian.

I score the highest southasian on MyHeritage, where I score 20%. On FtDNA 17%. On LivingDNA 11%.

https://i.postimg.cc/RFn1kKBH/4.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/nVG9C00L/My-Heritage-Baltic.jpg

Leto
09-29-2019, 11:20 PM
These four Gitano samples are about as South Asian as Pashtuns.

Leto
09-29-2019, 11:25 PM
On 23andme Im 12-14% Central&Southasian some of that is central asian not indian though but most of it is indian.

I score the highest southasian on MyHeritage, where I score 20%. On FtDNA 17%. On LivingDNA 11%.

What about Eurogenes K13/15? I know it's not very accurate for you but anyway.

Mortimer
09-29-2019, 11:27 PM
What about Eurogenes K13/15? I know it's not very accurate for you but anyway.

Admix Results (sorted):

#
Population
Percent
1
North_Atlantic
17.04
2
West_Med
16.07
3
Baltic
16.06
4
East_Med
15.34
5
West_Asian
15.14
6
South_Asian
13.02
7
Red_Sea
2.67
8
East_Asian
2.04
9
Oceanian
1.13
10
Amerindian
0.68
11
Siberian
0.55
12
Sub-Saharan
0.27

Single Population Sharing:

#
Population (source)
Distance
1
Greek_Thessaly
14.68
2
Bulgarian
15.13
3
Romanian
15.52
4
Italian_Abruzzo
18
5
Central_Greek
18.1
6
Serbian
18.19
7
East_Sicilian
18.88
8
West_Sicilian
19.46
9
Tuscan
19.58
10
Moldavian
20.83
11
North_Italian
21.02
12
South_Italian
21.14
13
Ashkenazi
21.21
14
Hungarian
23.86
15
Croatian
24.04
16
Turkish
24.39
17
Austrian
25.8
18
Turkmen
25.96
19
Sephardic_Jewish
26.01
20
Tadjik
26.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1

76.6%
Bulgarian
+
23.4%
Bangladeshi
@
4.1
2

80%
Bulgarian
+
20%
Kurumba
@
4.14
3

79.9%
Bulgarian
+
20.1%
Velamas
@
4.15
4

80.1%
Bulgarian
+
19.9%
Dusadh
@
4.29
5

78.5%
Bulgarian
+
21.5%
Dharkar
@
4.42
6

75.9%
Greek_Thessaly
+
24.1%
Brahmin_UP
@
4.51
7

80.1%
Bulgarian
+
19.9%
Chenchu
@
4.53
8

81%
Bulgarian
+
19%
Piramalai
@
4.54
9

76.8%
Bulgarian
+
23.2%
Gujarati
@
4.61
10

76.7%
Bulgarian
+
23.3%
Kshatriya
@
4.61
11

79.4%
Bulgarian
+
20.6%
Uttar_Pradesh
@
4.69
12

79.1%
Bulgarian
+
20.9%
Kanjar
@
4.74
13

79.9%
Bulgarian
+
20.1%
Kol
@
4.75
14

81.4%
Bulgarian
+
18.6%
Sakilli
@
4.76
15

73.3%
Greek_Thessaly
+
26.7%
Punjabi_Jat
@
4.84
16

75.5%
Bulgarian
+
24.5%
Brahmin_UP
@
4.86
17

77.5%
Greek_Thessaly
+
22.5%
Gujarati
@
4.92
18

77.4%
Greek_Thessaly
+
22.6%
Kshatriya
@
4.98
19

77.5%
Greek_Thessaly
+
22.5%
Bangladeshi
@
5
20

80.4%
Bulgarian
+
19.6%
North_Kannadi
@
5.05

Leto
09-29-2019, 11:32 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 17.04
2 West_Med 16.07
3 Baltic 16.06
4 East_Med 15.34
5 West_Asian 15.14
6 South_Asian 13.02
7 Red_Sea 2.67
8 East_Asian 2.04
9 Oceanian 1.13
10 Amerindian 0.68
11 Siberian 0.55
12 Sub-Saharan 0.27

Only 13%. If your father was Serbian and zero South Asian, then your mother would be ~26% which is normal for a Balkan Gypsy.

Mortimer
09-29-2019, 11:34 PM
Only 13%. If your father was Serbian and zero South Asian, then your mother would be ~26% which is normal for a Balkan Gypsy.

My Father was a quarter gypsy so he would be a little southasian too. My mum would be probably 23% southasian. 20-30% is normal. A few percent can differ someone is 22 and someone 27

Leto
09-29-2019, 11:37 PM
My Father was a quarter gypsy so he would be a little southasian too. My mum would be probably 23% southasian. 20-30% is normal. A few percent can differ someone is 22 and someone 27
Yet the Indian is noticeable in your mom.
What about HarappaWorld? It filters much of the Gedrosian in the South Asian.

Mortimer
09-29-2019, 11:40 PM
Yet the Indian is noticeable in your mom.
What about HarappaWorld? It filters much of the Gedrosian in the South Asian.

Yes, it is very visible. She is also very dark.

Admix Results (sorted):

#
Population
Percent
1
NE-Euro
23.75
2
Caucasian
23.28
3
Mediterranean
21.14
4
Baloch
12.19
5
S-Indian
10.89
6
SW-Asian
4.94
7
Papuan
1.06
8
American
0.9
9
NE-Asian
0.88
10
SE-Asian
0.56
11
Siberian
0.21
12
San
0.19

Single Population Sharing:

#
Population (source)
Distance
1
romanian-b (behar)
15.2
2
romanian-a (behar)
15.77
3
bulgarian (yunusbayev)
16.5
4
tuscan (1000genomes)
16.5
5
tuscan (hgdp)
16.58
6
tuscan (hapmap)
16.8
7
ashkenazi (harappa)
17.29
8
ashkenazy-jew (behar)
18.95
9
italian (hgdp)
19.7
10
turk-aydin (hodoglugil)
20.82
11
sephardic-jew (behar)
24.41
12
morocco-jew (behar)
24.81
13
nogai (yunusbayev)
26.5
14
hungarian (behar)
26.61
15
turkmen (yunusbayev)
26.73
16
turk-istanbul (hodoglugil)
26.97
17
tajik (yunusbayev)
27.04
18
stalskoe (xing)
27.08
19
french (hgdp)
27.4
20
spaniard (behar)
27.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance
1

64.9%
romanian-b (behar)
+
35.1%
french (hgdp)
@
4.16
2

70.3%
romanian-a (behar)
+
29.7%
bene-israel-jew (behar)
@
4.22
3

73.7%
tuscan (1000genomes)
+
26.3%
brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu)
@
4.43
4

72.1%
tuscan (1000genomes)
+
27.9%
nepalese-a (xing)
@
4.44
5

73.2%
tuscan (1000genomes)
+
26.8%
up-brahmin (harappa)
@
4.49
6

73.8%
bulgarian (yunusbayev)
+
26.2%
cochin-jew (behar)
@
4.53
7

51%
romanian-b (behar)
+
49%
romanian-a (behar)
@
4.53
8

73.4%
tuscan (1000genomes)
+
26.6%
bengali-brahmin (harappa)
@
4.56
9

68.5%
tuscan (1000genomes)
+
31.5%
haryana-jatt (harappa)
@
4.63
10

74.5%
tuscan (1000genomes)
+
25.5%
vaish (reich)
@
4.79
11

74.9%
romanian-a (behar)
+
25.1%
cochin-jew (behar)
@
4.82
12

74%
tuscan (1000genomes)
+
26%
bihari-muslim (harappa)
@
4.94
13

69.5%
bulgarian (yunusbayev)
+
30.5%
bene-israel-jew (behar)
@
5.03
14

71.1%
tuscan (1000genomes)
+
28.9%
up-muslim (harappa)
@
5.09
15

76.3%
tuscan (1000genomes)
+
23.7%
srivastava (reich)
@
5.1
16

75.2%
tuscan (1000genomes)
+
24.8%
up-kshatriya (metspalu)
@
5.12
17

79%
bulgarian (yunusbayev)
+
21%
gujarati-patel (harappa)
@
5.14
18

78.2%
bulgarian (yunusbayev)
+
21.8%
ap-reddy (harappa)
@
5.18
19

76.3%
bulgarian (yunusbayev)
+
23.7%
kerala-christian (harappa)
@
5.2
20

72.5%
tuscan (1000genomes)
+
27.5%
punjabi-brahmin (harappa)
@
5.21

Leto
09-29-2019, 11:44 PM
Yes, it is very visible. She is also very dark.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 23.75
2 Caucasian 23.28
3 Mediterranean 21.14
4 Baloch 12.19
5 S-Indian 10.89
6 SW-Asian 4.94
7 Papuan 1.06
8 American 0.9
9 NE-Asian 0.88
10 SE-Asian 0.56
11 Siberian 0.21
12 San 0.19

Not much different in your case. Almost 11%.