Serbs in terms of North vs South Plotting

[MercifulServant]

Sorted from the most north plotting to the most south plotting

Bosnian Serbs
Krajina Serbs (Krajina Serbs vary. Some may be more Northern plotting like Bosnian Serbs, while some (Like me) plot with Serbs from Sumadija/Montenegro)
Sumadija Serbs/Montenegrins
Serbs from Southern Serbia & Eastern Serbia

[Dna8]

Where would you rank eastern Central Serbians?

[MercifulServant]

Where would you rank eastern Central Serbians?

Eastern Serbs plot the most South along with Serbs from the south of Serbia. They have the least Balto-Slavic input.

[vbnetkhio]

Sorted from the most north plotting to the most south plotting

Bosnian Serbs
Krajina Serbs (Krajina Serbs vary. Some may be more Northern plotting like Bosnian Serbs, while some (Like me) plot with Serbs from Sumadija/Montenegro)
Sumadija Serbs/Montenegrins
Serbs from Southern Serbia & Eastern Serbia

The Šumadija Serbs which were posted here are as Slavic as Bosnian Serbs

https://i.imgur.com/QydwGHO.png

[Dna8]

Eastern Serbs plot the most South along with Serbs from the south of Serbia. They have the least Balto-Slavic input.

To what degree do you accept ancient Celto-Germanic sorties into northeastern Central Serbia?

[Xz2k9]

I've seen Montenigrens that almost plotted with Northenmost Gheg Albanians. It depends on the individual. All Balkan people and populations are diverse. Even the same regions. Even Kosovo plots very different depending on the samples. Some times I get Kosovo at distance of 10 even though I'm a Kosovar while other times it gives me Kosovo really close like distance of 3.

There was a calculator that gave me Montenigrin at a very close distance.

[Dna8]

I've seen Montenigrens that almost plotted with Northenmost Gheg Albanians. It depends on the individual. All Balkan people and populations are diverse. Even the same regions. Even Kosovo plots very different depending on the samples. Some times I get Kosovo at distance of 10 even though I'm a Kosovar while other times it gives me Kosovo really close like distance of 3.

There was a calculator that gave me Montenigrin at a very close distance.

I am amenable to your sentiments.

[Jana]

Serbs from Banija are most northern plotting, from those who tested. In reality Gorski kotar and Bela Krajina Serbs should be most northern but no samples from there.
Most southern should be Serb minority from Albania and maybe Macedonia.

[MercifulServant]

The Šumadija Serbs which were posted here are as Slavic as Bosnian Serbs

https://i.imgur.com/QydwGHO.png

Idk if that’s accurate most sumadija serb samples I’ve seen don’t plot that North.

[MercifulServant]

To what degree do you accept ancient Celto-Germanic sorties into northeastern Central Serbia?

Not very high. It’s mainly a mix between Slavic and paleobalkanic. I do have a Celtic haplogroup tho which is interesting lol.

[MercifulServant]

I've seen Montenigrens that almost plotted with Northenmost Gheg Albanians. It depends on the individual. All Balkan people and populations are diverse. Even the same regions. Even Kosovo plots very different depending on the samples. Some times I get Kosovo at distance of 10 even though I'm a Kosovar while other times it gives me Kosovo really close like distance of 3.

There was a calculator that gave me Montenigrin at a very close distance.

Not as a whole. As a group Montenegrins plot with serbs not Albanians or kosovars. They have much more Slavic input then Albanians do and most serbs from Serbia have origins in Montenegro. That sample on gedmatch is pretty south plotting compared to the other Montenegrin gedmatch kits I’ve seen. They also have more Slavic then paleobalkanic ydna, they aren’t ghegs. Ghegs barely have any Slavic ydna.

[vbnetkhio]

Idk if that’s accurate most sumadija serb samples I’ve seen don’t plot that North.

do you have their eurogenes k15? these are the ones on the pca:

Šumadija
K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.48
2 North_Atlantic 27.03
3 West_Med 15.27
4 East_Med 13.77
5 West_Asian 10.42
6 Siberian 0.79
7 East_Asian 0.2
8 Amerindian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.47
2 Serbian 5.52
3 Croatian 5.74
4 Hungarian 6.75
5 Romanian 8.76
6 Austrian 10.8
7 Bulgarian 10.85
8 East_German 11.67
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.02
10 South_Polish 12.23
11 Ukrainian 13.02
12 Polish 16
13 Southwest_Russian 16.32
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.48
15 West_German 17.51
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.12
17 Estonian_Polish 18.71
18 South_Dutch 19.01
19 Belorussian 19.18
20 Greek_Thessaly 19.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.1% Bulgarian + 46.9% South_Polish @ 1.98
2 58.6% Romanian + 41.4% South_Polish @ 2.1
3 60.3% Romanian + 39.7% Ukrainian @ 2.39
4 68.9% South_Polish + 31.1% Central_Greek @ 2.41
5 72% South_Polish + 28% South_Italian @ 2.5
6 65.3% Romanian + 34.7% Polish @ 2.5
7 73.8% Romanian + 26.2% Lithuanian @ 2.64
8 62.1% South_Polish + 37.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.66
9 62.1% Croatian + 37.9% Romanian @ 2.67
10 77.1% Serbian + 22.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.68
11 66.7% Ukrainian + 33.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.68
12 60% Bulgarian + 40% Polish @ 2.69
13 68.3% Romanian + 31.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.72
14 73.3% Romanian + 26.7% Estonian @ 2.75
15 67.6% Croatian + 32.4% Bulgarian @ 2.76
16 69.5% Romanian + 30.5% Belorussian @ 2.76
17 72.7% Serbian + 27.3% Ukrainian @ 2.78
18 68.2% South_Polish + 31.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.8
19 77.2% Serbian + 22.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.81
20 68.5% Bulgarian + 31.5% Estonian @ 2.83

K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 22.24
2 Baltic 22.14
3 Atlantic 12.74
4 Eastern_Euro 11.38
5 East_Med 11.08
6 West_Med 11.07
7 West_Asian 9.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6
2 Hungarian 6.88
3 Croatian 7.91
4 Serbian 8.39
5 Romanian 9.16
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.73
7 Austrian 10.91
8 Bulgarian 11.56
9 Ukrainian 11.87
10 South_Polish 11.98
11 East_German 12.29
12 Polish 15.01
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.71
14 Russian_Smolensk 15.93
15 Southwest_Russian 16.26
16 West_German 17.47
17 Greek_Thessaly 17.55
18 Belorussian 17.7
19 Finnish 17.86
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.91

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 36.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.22
2 60.7% Ukrainian + 39.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.43
3 71.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 28.9% Central_Greek @ 4.61
4 74% Ukrainian_Lviv + 26% South_Italian @ 4.67
5 51.8% Greek_Thessaly + 48.2% Estonian @ 4.7
6 60.5% South_Polish + 39.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.71
7 68.7% Ukrainian + 31.3% Central_Greek @ 4.84
8 55.2% Romanian + 44.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.89
9 70.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 29.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.89
10 71.7% Ukrainian + 28.3% South_Italian @ 4.92
11 72.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 27.8% East_Sicilian @ 4.95
12 58.5% Romanian + 41.5% Ukrainian @ 5.06
13 90.1% Hungarian + 9.9% Armenian @ 5.15
14 69.8% Ukrainian + 30.2% East_Sicilian @ 5.16
15 68.4% Ukrainian + 31.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.17
16 90.2% Hungarian + 9.8% Assyrian @ 5.21
17 52.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47.6% Bulgarian @ 5.23
18 90.4% Hungarian + 9.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.26
19 67% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Greek @ 5.27
20 77% Ukrainian_Lviv + 23% Italian_Jewish @ 5.31

Zajecar and Leskovac
Population Percent
1 Baltic 21.8
2 North_Sea 18.87
3 Atlantic 15.08
4 West_Med 11.61
5 Eastern_Euro 10.79
6 East_Med 10.7
7 West_Asian 9.84
8 Red_Sea 1.31


# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.21
2 North_Atlantic 25.09
3 West_Med 15.55
4 East_Med 15.5
5 West_Asian 9.87
6 Red_Sea 1.22
7 South_Asian 0.39
8 Siberian 0.18

Bela Palanka and Sumadija

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.48
2 North_Atlantic 25.46
3 East_Med 15.56
4 West_Med 14.67
5 West_Asian 7.47
6 Siberian 1.89
7 Amerindian 0.53
8 Red_Sea 0.47
9 Oceanian 0.24
10 Sub-Saharan 0.13
11 Northeast_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.23
2 Croatian 6.3
3 Serbian 6.43
4 Hungarian 8
5 Romanian 9.39
6 Bulgarian 11.08
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.01
8 South_Polish 12.44
9 Austrian 12.58
10 Ukrainian 12.82
11 East_German 13.22
12 Southwest_Russian 15.69
13 Polish 15.99
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.26
15 Russian_Smolensk 17.8
16 Estonian_Polish 18.05
17 Belorussian 18.56
18 West_German 19.25
19 Greek_Thessaly 19.73
20 Kargopol_Russian 19.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.5% Bulgarian + 32.5% Estonian @ 2.39
2 74% Ukrainian + 26% Italian_Jewish @ 2.54
3 63% Bulgarian + 37% Belorussian @ 2.54
4 69.4% Ukrainian + 30.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.65
5 62.4% Bulgarian + 37.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.7
6 53.4% Greek_Thessaly + 46.6% Estonian @ 2.71
7 60.7% Southwest_Russian + 39.3% Tuscan @ 2.73
8 70.1% South_Polish + 29.9% Ashkenazi @ 2.77
9 67.2% Romanian + 32.8% Belorussian @ 2.84
10 66.6% Romanian + 33.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.84
11 51.6% Belorussian + 48.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.86
12 63.8% Southwest_Russian + 36.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.86
13 53.9% Bulgarian + 46.1% Ukrainian @ 2.97
14 67.7% Bulgarian + 32.3% Finnish @ 2.98
15 63.4% Romanian + 36.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.99
16 74.3% Ukrainian + 25.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3
17 68.3% Bulgarian + 31.7% Lithuanian @ 3
18 53.1% Bulgarian + 46.9% South_Polish @ 3.01
19 61% Ukrainian + 39% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.04
20 68.7% Bulgarian + 31.3% East_Finnish @ 3.04

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.28
2 Atlantic 18.94
3 North_Sea 15.55
4 Eastern_Euro 14.93
5 East_Med 10.32
6 West_Med 10.08
7 West_Asian 8.22
8 Siberian 0.67
9 Red_Sea 0.5
10 Amerindian 0.28
11 Northeast_African 0.21
12 Oceanian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 5.21
2 Moldavian 6.21
3 Serbian 6.53
4 Austrian 7.01
5 Romanian 7.98
6 Hungarian 8.45
7 Bulgarian 9.76
8 South_Polish 11.43
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.96
10 East_German 12.19
11 Ukrainian 12.53
12 Russian_Smolensk 13.59
13 Polish 13.63
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.09
15 Southwest_Russian 14.58
16 Estonian_Polish 16.07
17 Belorussian 16.1
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.4
19 Kargopol_Russian 17.47
20 Greek 18.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.2% Polish + 42.8% Greek @ 2.47
2 58.7% Bulgarian + 41.3% Polish @ 2.62
3 59.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.3% Tuscan @ 2.65
4 62.9% Russian_Smolensk + 37.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.67
5 58.9% Southwest_Russian + 41.1% Tuscan @ 2.67
6 58.8% Estonian_Polish + 41.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.83
7 64.2% Russian_Smolensk + 35.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.86
8 58.8% Bulgarian + 41.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.88
9 60.7% Russian_Smolensk + 39.3% Tuscan @ 2.91
10 64.2% Romanian + 35.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.94
11 80.6% Croatian + 19.4% Greek @ 2.95
12 62.9% Bulgarian + 37.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.96
13 68.1% Romanian + 31.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.96
14 68.7% Croatian + 31.3% Bulgarian @ 3.05
15 61.8% South_Polish + 38.2% Greek @ 3.05
16 57.4% Russian_Smolensk + 42.6% Greek @ 3.06
17 63.1% Bulgarian + 36.9% Belorussian @ 3.18
18 85.2% Croatian + 14.8% West_Sicilian @ 3.19
19 88.4% Croatian + 11.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.2
20 90.1% Croatian + 9.9% Cyprian @ 3.21

[MercifulServant]

do you have their eurogenes k15? these are the ones on the pca:

Šumadija
K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.48
2 North_Atlantic 27.03
3 West_Med 15.27
4 East_Med 13.77
5 West_Asian 10.42
6 Siberian 0.79
7 East_Asian 0.2
8 Amerindian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.47
2 Serbian 5.52
3 Croatian 5.74
4 Hungarian 6.75
5 Romanian 8.76
6 Austrian 10.8
7 Bulgarian 10.85
8 East_German 11.67
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.02
10 South_Polish 12.23
11 Ukrainian 13.02
12 Polish 16
13 Southwest_Russian 16.32
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.48
15 West_German 17.51
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.12
17 Estonian_Polish 18.71
18 South_Dutch 19.01
19 Belorussian 19.18
20 Greek_Thessaly 19.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.1% Bulgarian + 46.9% South_Polish @ 1.98
2 58.6% Romanian + 41.4% South_Polish @ 2.1
3 60.3% Romanian + 39.7% Ukrainian @ 2.39
4 68.9% South_Polish + 31.1% Central_Greek @ 2.41
5 72% South_Polish + 28% South_Italian @ 2.5
6 65.3% Romanian + 34.7% Polish @ 2.5
7 73.8% Romanian + 26.2% Lithuanian @ 2.64
8 62.1% South_Polish + 37.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.66
9 62.1% Croatian + 37.9% Romanian @ 2.67
10 77.1% Serbian + 22.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.68
11 66.7% Ukrainian + 33.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.68
12 60% Bulgarian + 40% Polish @ 2.69
13 68.3% Romanian + 31.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.72
14 73.3% Romanian + 26.7% Estonian @ 2.75
15 67.6% Croatian + 32.4% Bulgarian @ 2.76
16 69.5% Romanian + 30.5% Belorussian @ 2.76
17 72.7% Serbian + 27.3% Ukrainian @ 2.78
18 68.2% South_Polish + 31.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.8
19 77.2% Serbian + 22.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.81
20 68.5% Bulgarian + 31.5% Estonian @ 2.83

K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 22.24
2 Baltic 22.14
3 Atlantic 12.74
4 Eastern_Euro 11.38
5 East_Med 11.08
6 West_Med 11.07
7 West_Asian 9.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6
2 Hungarian 6.88
3 Croatian 7.91
4 Serbian 8.39
5 Romanian 9.16
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.73
7 Austrian 10.91
8 Bulgarian 11.56
9 Ukrainian 11.87
10 South_Polish 11.98
11 East_German 12.29
12 Polish 15.01
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.71
14 Russian_Smolensk 15.93
15 Southwest_Russian 16.26
16 West_German 17.47
17 Greek_Thessaly 17.55
18 Belorussian 17.7
19 Finnish 17.86
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.91

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 36.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.22
2 60.7% Ukrainian + 39.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.43
3 71.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 28.9% Central_Greek @ 4.61
4 74% Ukrainian_Lviv + 26% South_Italian @ 4.67
5 51.8% Greek_Thessaly + 48.2% Estonian @ 4.7
6 60.5% South_Polish + 39.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.71
7 68.7% Ukrainian + 31.3% Central_Greek @ 4.84
8 55.2% Romanian + 44.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.89
9 70.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 29.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.89
10 71.7% Ukrainian + 28.3% South_Italian @ 4.92
11 72.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 27.8% East_Sicilian @ 4.95
12 58.5% Romanian + 41.5% Ukrainian @ 5.06
13 90.1% Hungarian + 9.9% Armenian @ 5.15
14 69.8% Ukrainian + 30.2% East_Sicilian @ 5.16
15 68.4% Ukrainian + 31.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.17
16 90.2% Hungarian + 9.8% Assyrian @ 5.21
17 52.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47.6% Bulgarian @ 5.23
18 90.4% Hungarian + 9.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.26
19 67% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33% Greek @ 5.27
20 77% Ukrainian_Lviv + 23% Italian_Jewish @ 5.31

Zajecar and Leskovac
Population Percent
1 Baltic 21.8
2 North_Sea 18.87
3 Atlantic 15.08
4 West_Med 11.61
5 Eastern_Euro 10.79
6 East_Med 10.7
7 West_Asian 9.84
8 Red_Sea 1.31


# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.21
2 North_Atlantic 25.09
3 West_Med 15.55
4 East_Med 15.5
5 West_Asian 9.87
6 Red_Sea 1.22
7 South_Asian 0.39
8 Siberian 0.18

Bela Palanka and Sumadija

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.48
2 North_Atlantic 25.46
3 East_Med 15.56
4 West_Med 14.67
5 West_Asian 7.47
6 Siberian 1.89
7 Amerindian 0.53
8 Red_Sea 0.47
9 Oceanian 0.24
10 Sub-Saharan 0.13
11 Northeast_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.23
2 Croatian 6.3
3 Serbian 6.43
4 Hungarian 8
5 Romanian 9.39
6 Bulgarian 11.08
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.01
8 South_Polish 12.44
9 Austrian 12.58
10 Ukrainian 12.82
11 East_German 13.22
12 Southwest_Russian 15.69
13 Polish 15.99
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.26
15 Russian_Smolensk 17.8
16 Estonian_Polish 18.05
17 Belorussian 18.56
18 West_German 19.25
19 Greek_Thessaly 19.73
20 Kargopol_Russian 19.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.5% Bulgarian + 32.5% Estonian @ 2.39
2 74% Ukrainian + 26% Italian_Jewish @ 2.54
3 63% Bulgarian + 37% Belorussian @ 2.54
4 69.4% Ukrainian + 30.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.65
5 62.4% Bulgarian + 37.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.7
6 53.4% Greek_Thessaly + 46.6% Estonian @ 2.71
7 60.7% Southwest_Russian + 39.3% Tuscan @ 2.73
8 70.1% South_Polish + 29.9% Ashkenazi @ 2.77
9 67.2% Romanian + 32.8% Belorussian @ 2.84
10 66.6% Romanian + 33.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.84
11 51.6% Belorussian + 48.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.86
12 63.8% Southwest_Russian + 36.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.86
13 53.9% Bulgarian + 46.1% Ukrainian @ 2.97
14 67.7% Bulgarian + 32.3% Finnish @ 2.98
15 63.4% Romanian + 36.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.99
16 74.3% Ukrainian + 25.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3
17 68.3% Bulgarian + 31.7% Lithuanian @ 3
18 53.1% Bulgarian + 46.9% South_Polish @ 3.01
19 61% Ukrainian + 39% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.04
20 68.7% Bulgarian + 31.3% East_Finnish @ 3.04

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.28
2 Atlantic 18.94
3 North_Sea 15.55
4 Eastern_Euro 14.93
5 East_Med 10.32
6 West_Med 10.08
7 West_Asian 8.22
8 Siberian 0.67
9 Red_Sea 0.5
10 Amerindian 0.28
11 Northeast_African 0.21
12 Oceanian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 5.21
2 Moldavian 6.21
3 Serbian 6.53
4 Austrian 7.01
5 Romanian 7.98
6 Hungarian 8.45
7 Bulgarian 9.76
8 South_Polish 11.43
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.96
10 East_German 12.19
11 Ukrainian 12.53
12 Russian_Smolensk 13.59
13 Polish 13.63
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.09
15 Southwest_Russian 14.58
16 Estonian_Polish 16.07
17 Belorussian 16.1
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.4
19 Kargopol_Russian 17.47
20 Greek 18.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.2% Polish + 42.8% Greek @ 2.47
2 58.7% Bulgarian + 41.3% Polish @ 2.62
3 59.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.3% Tuscan @ 2.65
4 62.9% Russian_Smolensk + 37.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.67
5 58.9% Southwest_Russian + 41.1% Tuscan @ 2.67
6 58.8% Estonian_Polish + 41.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.83
7 64.2% Russian_Smolensk + 35.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.86
8 58.8% Bulgarian + 41.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.88
9 60.7% Russian_Smolensk + 39.3% Tuscan @ 2.91
10 64.2% Romanian + 35.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.94
11 80.6% Croatian + 19.4% Greek @ 2.95
12 62.9% Bulgarian + 37.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.96
13 68.1% Romanian + 31.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.96
14 68.7% Croatian + 31.3% Bulgarian @ 3.05
15 61.8% South_Polish + 38.2% Greek @ 3.05
16 57.4% Russian_Smolensk + 42.6% Greek @ 3.06
17 63.1% Bulgarian + 36.9% Belorussian @ 3.18
18 85.2% Croatian + 14.8% West_Sicilian @ 3.19
19 88.4% Croatian + 11.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.2
20 90.1% Croatian + 9.9% Cyprian @ 3.21



Interesting. Currently I can’t find any examples because I’m kind of busy right now but most of the kits I’ve seen plot south of that. I’ll try to post some when I get home.

[CommonSense]

I've only seen results of a single pure southern Serb, or 'Shop' as he called his subgroup, and he is quite similar to Montenegrins. Dick's friend with ancestry from Leskovac and Zajecar, so southern + eastern Serbia, has more Slavic/northern autosomal dna than you or me.

[Dušan]

I don't think there are some large regional differences.
We are a pretty homogeneous nation.

[Pribislav]

Serbs from Banija are most northern plotting, from those who tested. In reality Gorski kotar and Bela Krajina Serbs should be most northern but no samples from there.
Most southern should be Serb minority from Albania and maybe Macedonia.

Kalnik-Bilogora Serbs are also candidates for most northern ploting http://www.wikiwand.com/sr/Kalničko-bilogorski_Srbi

Bogdan Diklić is one of them.

[Ikol]

im bosnian serb, doboj and kupres, and im plottin north west. Why is that?

[Ikol]

Indeed, only small differences

[Token]

Not very high. It’s mainly a mix between Slavic and paleobalkanic. I do have a Celtic haplogroup tho which is interesting lol.

L497 was found in Vinca culture.

[Dna8]

im bosnian serb, doboj and kupres, and im plottin north west. Why is that?

In the context of your ancestors presumably migrating to Bosna from the South East?

[Ikol]

Yes, parents told mer that they think they were from montenegro from the beginning. u want my gedmatch so u can see ?

[Dna8]

Yes, parents told mer that they think they were from montenegro from the beginning. u want my gedmatch so u can see ?

Unfortunately, I have no understanding of gedmatch and such..

Just wanted to be sure I understood your previous post.