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Lemgrant
11-19-2019, 10:46 AM
plot any sample on 2D (Europe) or 3D PCA (Global) here:

2D link : https://lemgrant.github.io/eutest2dpca/

3D link: https://lemgrant.github.io/eutest3dpca/


https://youtu.be/DcaOGEC5ELQ

Omanvassal
11-19-2019, 11:33 AM
Thanks

Father: 92851
Mother: 92852

dududud
11-19-2019, 12:13 PM
Half sardo half french = my mother? ;p

Lemgrant
11-19-2019, 12:29 PM
Half sardo half french = my mother? ;p

yes, I was inspired by you. But that is not your sample. Post yours

dududud
11-19-2019, 01:01 PM
yes, I was inspired by you. But that is not your sample. Post yours

Me:
ThomasL_scaled,0.126344,0.14319,0.044877,-0.001938,0.048624,0.000279,0.00329,0.006231,0.0081 81,0.029522,-0.003573,0.006594,-0.020515,-0.005092,0.004207,-0.014585,-0.010561,0.002407,0.003897,-0.007629,0.000749,-0.001855,-0.002465,0.00482,0.000958


My mother:
JeanneF_scaled,0.125205,0.15436,0.035826,-0.020995,0.045547,-0.01255,0.00141,0.003461,0.01268,0.039545,-0.005684,0.01124,-0.017245,-0.010184,-0.00855,-0.011005,-0.012256,-0.001647,0.00817,-0.020885,-0.006738,0.002226,-0.001479,-0.007953,0.004431

Lemgrant
11-19-2019, 01:07 PM
Me:
ThomasL_scaled,0.126344,0.14319,0.044877,-0.001938,0.048624,0.000279,0.00329,0.006231,0.0081 81,0.029522,-0.003573,0.006594,-0.020515,-0.005092,0.004207,-0.014585,-0.010561,0.002407,0.003897,-0.007629,0.000749,-0.001855,-0.002465,0.00482,0.000958


My mother:
JeanneF_scaled,0.125205,0.15436,0.035826,-0.020995,0.045547,-0.01255,0.00141,0.003461,0.01268,0.039545,-0.005684,0.01124,-0.017245,-0.010184,-0.00855,-0.011005,-0.012256,-0.001647,0.00817,-0.020885,-0.006738,0.002226,-0.001479,-0.007953,0.004431

This is not for G25. It is Gedmatch Eurogenes EUtest.

dududud
11-19-2019, 01:08 PM
This is not for G25. It is Gedmatch Eurogenes EUtest.

Do you want the Eutest results?

Lemgrant
11-19-2019, 01:09 PM
Do you want the Eutest results?

yes. See the video.

Karol Klačansky
11-19-2019, 01:32 PM
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC22.15 PctEAST_EURO18.72 PctNORTH-CENTRAL_EURO23.94 PctATLANTIC18.11 PctWEST_MED8.27 PctEAST_MED6.74 PctWEST_ASIAN1.35 PctMIDDLE_EASTERN- SOUTH_ASIAN0.13 PctEAST_AFRICAN0.32 PctEAST_ASIAN0.26
PctSIBERIAN-
WEST_AFRICAN-

This is me
I'm assuming Slovakian1 is my father.

Thanks!

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Lemgrant
11-19-2019, 01:42 PM
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC22.15 PctEAST_EURO18.72 PctNORTH-CENTRAL_EURO23.94 PctATLANTIC18.11 PctWEST_MED8.27 PctEAST_MED6.74 PctWEST_ASIAN1.35 PctMIDDLE_EASTERN- SOUTH_ASIAN0.13 PctEAST_AFRICAN0.32 PctEAST_ASIAN0.26
PctSIBERIAN-
WEST_AFRICAN-

This is me
I'm assuming Slovakian1 is my father.

Thanks!

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But you can do it too, that's the point. Slovakian_1 is a different person (I don't have your EUtest results).

https://i.imgur.com/sXfJJfx.png

Karol Klačansky
11-19-2019, 02:01 PM
Heres with me and my Father (presenlanySVK). the 3D one looks a little strange, czechs and slovaks look closer to Irish and Dutch than to poles or ukrainians on the 3D one, and the plot is difficult to manipulate.

https://i.ibb.co/tpqmGXH/Lemgrant-EU-PCA.jpg (https://ibb.co/r2x7jsQ)

Karol Klačansky
11-19-2019, 02:09 PM
Thanks

Father: 92851
Mother: 92852Slovak with a mother named boguslawa? [emoji848] And based on your other results u should be Balkan shifted. [emoji23]

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SUPREEEEEME
11-19-2019, 02:15 PM
Here's mine:

https://imgur.com/UjUi9X6

https://imgur.com/UjUi9X6

Lemgrant
11-19-2019, 02:20 PM
Heres with me and my Father (presenlanySVK). the 3D one looks a little strange, czechs and slovaks look closer to Irish and Dutch than to poles or ukrainians on the 3D one, and the plot is difficult to manipulate.

https://i.ibb.co/tpqmGXH/Lemgrant-EU-PCA.jpg (https://ibb.co/r2x7jsQ)

I double checked it now and there is no error in 3D version. It is indeed like that when scaling is disabled. I performed pca with prcomp function in R (prcomp(data01[,1:13],scale. = FALSE, center = TRUE)). But when scaling is enabled, it looks closer to 2D version of PCA. Also with Firefox browser it is easier to manipulate the 3D plot.

dududud
11-19-2019, 02:23 PM
yes, I was inspired by you. But that is not your sample. Post yours

Mother:
1 WEST_MED 31.08
2 ATLANTIC 19.63
3 EAST_MED 16.21
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.79
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.19
6 EAST_EURO 5.1
7 WEST_ASIAN 2.22
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.02
9 EAST_ASIAN 0.42
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.35


Me:
1 WEST_MED 24.82
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 22.98
3 ATLANTIC 21.41
4 EAST_MED 10.97
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.2
6 EAST_EURO 5.18
7 WEST_ASIAN 4.23
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.86
9 WEST_AFRICAN 0.32
10 EAST_ASIAN 0.04

Omanvassal
11-19-2019, 02:37 PM
Slovak with a mother named boguslawa? [emoji848] And based on your other results u should be Balkan shifted. [emoji23]

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You talking about this one, last name is Wisniewski

92854

Karol Klačansky
11-19-2019, 02:49 PM
You talking about this one, last name is Wisniewski

92854Yea thats it!

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PAGANE
11-19-2019, 02:57 PM
Four Bulgarian samples
BGKit-1


SOUTH_BALTIC 16.58 Pct
EAST_EURO 9.88 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 11.50 Pct
ATLANTIC 12.78 Pct
WEST_MED 9.31 Pct
EAST_MED 23.84 Pct
WEST_ASIAN 12.36 Pct
MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.73 Pct
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -


BGKit-2


SOUTH_BALTIC 16.16 Pct
EAST_EURO 8.20 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 14.81 Pct
ATLANTIC 9.41 Pct
WEST_MED 11.37 Pct
EAST_MED 25.32 Pct
WEST_ASIAN 12.02 Pct
MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.71 Pct
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -


BGKit-3


SOUTH_BALTIC 15.97 Pct
EAST_EURO 5.82 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 12.28 Pct
ATLANTIC 13.94 Pct
WEST_MED 10.03 Pct
EAST_MED 25.58 Pct
WEST_ASIAN 12.80 Pct
MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.16 Pct
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.40 Pct
WEST_AFRICAN -


BGKit-4


SOUTH_BALTIC 18.87 Pct
EAST_EURO 10.20 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 10.05 Pct
ATLANTIC 12,68 Pct
WEST_MED 17.25 Pct
EAST_MED 19.41 Pct
WEST_ASIAN 8,35 Pct
СРЕДНОИЗТОЧЕН 2,37 Pct
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN 0.71 Pct
EAST_ASIAN 0,10 Pct
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

Lemgrant
11-19-2019, 03:44 PM
Mother:
1 WEST_MED 31.08
2 ATLANTIC 19.63
3 EAST_MED 16.21
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.79
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.19
6 EAST_EURO 5.1
7 WEST_ASIAN 2.22
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.02
9 EAST_ASIAN 0.42
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.35


Me:
1 WEST_MED 24.82
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 22.98
3 ATLANTIC 21.41
4 EAST_MED 10.97
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.2
6 EAST_EURO 5.18
7 WEST_ASIAN 4.23
8 MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.86
9 WEST_AFRICAN 0.32
10 EAST_ASIAN 0.04

why sorted values? unsorted are on the first page when you run the calculator on gedmatch. You need the unsorted values for pca.

Karol Klačansky
11-19-2019, 04:07 PM
why sorted values? unsorted are on the first page when you run the calculator on gedmatch. You need the unsorted values for pca.He should do it himself, he doesn't get a pass just cuz he's donated some precious Bulgarian samples.

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Dušan
11-19-2019, 04:09 PM
Great job, Lemgrant! :thumb001:

https://i.imgur.com/ThrVqWT.jpg

Zoom:

https://i.imgur.com/Q3edA0B.jpg

Karol Klačansky
11-19-2019, 04:11 PM
Double

Daos777
11-19-2019, 04:16 PM
Population

SOUTH_BALTIC26.32 Pct
EAST_EURO19.62 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO19.76 Pct
ATLANTIC9.74 Pct
WEST_MED5.85 Pct
EAST_MED12.28 Pct
WEST_ASIAN3.66 Pct
MIDDLE_EASTERN-
SOUTH_ASIAN1.93 Pct
EAST_AFRICAN-
EAST_ASIAN0.76 Pct
SIBERIAN-
WEST_AFRICAN0.09

Lemgrant
11-19-2019, 04:25 PM
Firefox browser is recommended for easier manipulation of the 3D version of pca

Ford
11-19-2019, 04:31 PM
https://i.imgur.com/93kr5Jm.png

MagnusDark
11-19-2019, 04:50 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Z5K7c03x/pca.png

WhatsGoingOnBigGuy
11-19-2019, 05:05 PM
https://imgur.com/a/6ON41LS

Daos777
11-19-2019, 05:42 PM
https://imgur.com/pmJrMuP

PT Tagus
11-19-2019, 09:56 PM
here is mine

https://i.imgur.com/GYGZMh4.png


EUtest results

92867

War Chef
11-19-2019, 10:15 PM
Chief,14.25,10.59,16.58,12.06,5.83,26.60,10.35,0.5 9,0.65,0,1.74,0,0.49,0.21,0.07

NOT WORKING

Lemgrant
11-19-2019, 10:39 PM
Chief,14.25,10.59,16.58,12.06,5.83,26.60,10.35,0.5 9,0.65,0,1.74,0,0.49,0.21,0.07

NOT WORKING

EUtest with 13 components, not K15. Select the correct calc on gedmatch.

celticdragongod
11-19-2019, 10:44 PM
My Results: 92869

celticdragongod
11-19-2019, 11:02 PM
My Results: 92870

Coastal Elite
11-19-2019, 11:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Dmjpyoc.jpg

JamesBond007
11-19-2019, 11:33 PM
The English sample is probably SouthEast English and Orcadian is Celtic with a heavy dose of Norwegian viking. This probably puts me anywhere from the Liverpool to NorthCumbria region I would guess or perhaps the very southWest of Cornwall. It is hard to tell without more British samples so I am a bit disorientated with this all, anyway, it is clear I am extremely British isles regardless :

https://i.postimg.cc/kX97rfnC/kevin.png


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB5Nbp_gmgQ

dududud
11-19-2019, 11:36 PM
why sorted values? unsorted are on the first page when you run the calculator on gedmatch. You need the unsorted values for pca.

Mother:

SOUTH_BALTIC 8.19 Pct
EAST_EURO 5.10 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.79 Pct
ATLANTIC 19.63 Pct
WEST_MED 31.08 Pct
EAST_MED 16.21 Pct
WEST_ASIAN 2.22 Pct
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.02 Pct
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.42 Pct
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.35 Pct


Me:
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 8.20 Pct
EAST_EURO 5.18 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 22.98 Pct
ATLANTIC 21.41 Pct
WEST_MED 24.82 Pct
EAST_MED 10.97 Pct
WEST_ASIAN 4.23 Pct
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.86 Pct
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.32 Pct

Coastal Elite
11-19-2019, 11:55 PM
The English sample is probably SouthEast English and Orcadian is Celtic with a heavy dose of Norwegian viking. This probably puts me anywhere from the Liverpool to NorthCumbria region I would guess or perhaps the very southWest of Cornwall. It is hard to tell without more British samples so I am a bit disorientated with this all, anyway, it is clear I am extremely British isles regardless :

https://i.postimg.cc/kX97rfnC/kevin.png


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB5Nbp_gmgQ

E Digby Baltzell says you have to plot a little further northwest to be a true WASP. Not sure if that cuts it.

JamesBond007
11-20-2019, 12:13 AM
E Digby Baltzell says you have to plot a little further northwest to be a true WASP. Not sure if that cuts it.

I do not really care about being a WASP since it is a dumb American term that can include the Dutch and protestant Huguenot Alasce-Lorraine people etc..meanwhile every true Brit knows about the Anglo-Dutch wars and despite WWI and WWII that the most wars between Britaiin and any foreign nation have been against France e.g. the battle of Agincourt. I am better than WASP since Americans do not know history I am obviously British and a pretty exotic British admixture at that.

Coastal Elite
11-20-2019, 12:21 AM
I do not really care about being a WASP since it is a dumb American term that can include the Dutch and protestant Huguenot Alasce-Lorraine people etc..meanwhile every true Brit knows about the Anglo-Dutch wars and despite WWI and WWII that the most wars between Britaiin and any foreign nation have been against France e.g. the battle of Agincourt. I am better than WASP since Americans do not know history I am obviously British and a pretty exotic British admixture at that.

I'm just messing with you because you proclaimed to be WASP in another post. I always find it funny when people say they are "WASPs" so that is why I brought it up.

JamesBond007
11-20-2019, 12:25 AM
E Digby Baltzell says you have to plot a little further northwest to be a true WASP. Not sure if that cuts it.

Americans so retarded they not only don't know history but they also do not know geography. Both Cornwall and Orkney are in the political unit known as Britain therefore my ethnic admixture is de facto British

Coastal Elite
11-20-2019, 12:32 AM
Americans so retarded they not only don't know history but they also do not know geography. Both Cornwall and Orkney are in the political unit known as Britain therefore my ethnic admixture is de facto British

Geography + Dumb Americans = JamesBond007 rant. Pretty one dimensional. You should become a geography teacher to combat this so-called problem in America.

Karol Klačansky
11-20-2019, 09:03 AM
Americans so retarded they not only don't know history but they also do not know geography. Both Cornwall and Orkney are in the political unit known as Britain therefore my ethnic admixture is de facto BritishBro I lived 2 years in England, specifically one year in Liverpool and one year in Bolton. Many of the people there have never even been to London. My father is a geography professor and was teaching at a university in Liverpool. He once gave his students an assignment just to label the countries of Europe, I helped him grade it as I know all countries in Europe. At least 10 percent of the class couldn't accurately place Ireland on a map, 90 percent got Ireland, Scotland, France, and Spain but could not label any other countries. I saw people labeling Poland as Italy, Germany as Russia etc. Geography of many brits is awful.

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Lemgrant
11-20-2019, 05:08 PM
Mother:

SOUTH_BALTIC 8.19 Pct
EAST_EURO 5.10 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 15.79 Pct
ATLANTIC 19.63 Pct
WEST_MED 31.08 Pct
EAST_MED 16.21 Pct
WEST_ASIAN 2.22 Pct
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.02 Pct
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.42 Pct
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.35 Pct


Me:
Population
SOUTH_BALTIC 8.20 Pct
EAST_EURO 5.18 Pct
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 22.98 Pct
ATLANTIC 21.41 Pct
WEST_MED 24.82 Pct
EAST_MED 10.97 Pct
WEST_ASIAN 4.23 Pct
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.86 Pct
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.32 Pct

https://i.imgur.com/umPl94Q.png

Lemgrant
11-21-2019, 06:10 PM
>>

Chryssie Khanate
11-21-2019, 06:19 PM
One point has all percentages included, the other has everything above 2%.

https://i.postimg.cc/28kBbKf5/image.png

Lemgrant
11-21-2019, 06:33 PM
One point has all percentages included, the other has everything above 2%.

https://i.postimg.cc/28kBbKf5/image.png

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?294025-Post-your-newly-updated-23-beta-results&p=6214538#post6214538

and you know only about English ancestry, right? I see that you get 10% East Euro and 19% German on 23andme...

Chryssie Khanate
11-21-2019, 06:45 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?294025-Post-your-newly-updated-23-beta-results&p=6214538#post6214538

and you know only about English ancestry, right? I see that you get 10% East Euro and 19% German on 23andme...

Yeah all I know is that my mother's side is Irish/English, and has a last name that seems to come from Cavan County in Ireland.

I really don't know where the other stuff comes from. Especially don't know why I consistently get ~10% Eastern European dna on all tests.

Rędwald
11-21-2019, 06:49 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/zDtkK4Sj/112.png

Lemgrant
11-21-2019, 07:09 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/zDtkK4Sj/112.png

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?278188-LePrieur-23andme-Results

post your oracles from EUtest, it's interesting. Both mixedmode and 4-way oracle.

Rędwald
11-21-2019, 07:12 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?278188-LePrieur-23andme-Results

post your oracles from EUtest, it's interesting. Both mixedmode and 4-way oracle.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 NL @ 5.360508
2 English @ 5.642265
3 DK @ 6.438132
4 Cornish @ 6.909125
5 West_&_Central_German @ 7.005866
6 Orcadian @ 7.982291
7 NO @ 8.247042
8 IE @ 8.595057
9 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 9.035830
10 Scottish @ 10.340495
11 FR @ 12.453335
12 North_Swedish @ 13.026841
13 AT @ 14.265373
14 HU @ 19.990417
15 PT @ 20.254925
16 ES @ 20.849253
17 South_Finnish @ 22.171810
18 Serbian @ 23.137617
19 North_Italian @ 25.388145
20 PL @ 25.592957

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% FR +50% NO @ 5.280873


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% DK +25% DK +25% FR @ 4.698812


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 DK + English + FR + NO @ 4.690612
2 DK + DK + DK + FR @ 4.698812
3 DK + DK + FR + NO @ 4.709173
4 DK + English + FR + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.713714
5 English + FR + NO + NO @ 4.730468
6 DK + FR + NL + NO @ 4.745772
7 DK + DK + FR + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.764232
8 DK + ES + NO + NO @ 4.772079
9 DK + ES + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.795853
10 English + FR + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.802351
11 DK + NO + NO + PT @ 4.802359
12 ES + NO + NO + NO @ 4.805685
13 DK + DK + FR + NL @ 4.811207
14 DK + FR + NL + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.814058
15 DK + DK + English + FR @ 4.817941
16 FR + NL + NO + NO @ 4.845960
17 DK + NO + PT + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.869868
18 DK + ES + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.870558
19 NO + NO + NO + PT @ 4.871549
20 ES + NO + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.877505


# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 29.21
2 ATLANTIC 24.43
3 WEST_MED 13.7
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.46
5 EAST_EURO 11.36
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.37
7 EAST_MED 2.08
8 WEST_ASIAN 2.02
9 SIBERIAN 1.27
10 EAST_AFRICAN 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 NL 4.89
2 English 5.16
3 DK 5.89
4 Cornish 6.19
5 West_&_Central_German 6.28
6 Orcadian 7.2
7 NO 7.45
8 IE 7.68
9 South_&_Central_Swedish 8.2
10 Scottish 9.24
11 FR 10.96
12 North_Swedish 11.69
13 AT 12.46
14 HU 17.55
15 PT 17.83
16 ES 18.39
17 South_Finnish 19.91
18 Serbian 19.99
19 North_Italian 21.99
20 PL 22.81

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.4% DK + 8.6% Sardinian @ 3.77
2 96.3% English + 3.7% South_Indian @ 3.99
3 95.7% English + 4.3% Bangladeshi @ 4.15
4 96% English + 4% Gujarati @ 4.23
5 95.9% English + 4.1% IN @ 4.26
6 88.7% NO + 11.3% Sardinian @ 4.27
7 97.3% NL + 2.7% South_Indian @ 4.28
8 71.4% DK + 28.6% FR @ 4.3
9 62.4% NO + 37.6% FR @ 4.32
10 74.8% NO + 25.2% ES @ 4.4
11 82.1% DK + 17.9% ES @ 4.43
12 81.7% DK + 18.3% PT @ 4.45
13 97.2% NL + 2.8% Bangladeshi @ 4.46
14 74.3% NO + 25.7% PT @ 4.47
15 97.4% NL + 2.6% Gujarati @ 4.52
16 97.4% NL + 2.6% IN @ 4.55
17 95.8% English + 4.2% Burusho @ 4.56
18 96.2% English + 3.8% Sindhi @ 4.56
19 59.4% South_&_Central_Swedish + 40.6% FR @ 4.59
20 96.9% NL + 3.1% Sardinian @ 4.64

Lemgrant
11-21-2019, 09:22 PM
Using 1 population approximation:
1 NL @ 5.360508
2 English @ 5.642265
3 DK @ 6.438132
4 Cornish @ 6.909125
5 West_&_Central_German @ 7.005866
6 Orcadian @ 7.982291
7 NO @ 8.247042
8 IE @ 8.595057
9 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 9.035830
10 Scottish @ 10.340495
11 FR @ 12.453335
12 North_Swedish @ 13.026841
13 AT @ 14.265373
14 HU @ 19.990417
15 PT @ 20.254925
16 ES @ 20.849253
17 South_Finnish @ 22.171810
18 Serbian @ 23.137617
19 North_Italian @ 25.388145
20 PL @ 25.592957

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% FR +50% NO @ 5.280873


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% DK +25% DK +25% FR @ 4.698812


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 DK + English + FR + NO @ 4.690612
2 DK + DK + DK + FR @ 4.698812
3 DK + DK + FR + NO @ 4.709173
4 DK + English + FR + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.713714
5 English + FR + NO + NO @ 4.730468
6 DK + FR + NL + NO @ 4.745772
7 DK + DK + FR + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.764232
8 DK + ES + NO + NO @ 4.772079
9 DK + ES + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.795853
10 English + FR + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.802351
11 DK + NO + NO + PT @ 4.802359
12 ES + NO + NO + NO @ 4.805685
13 DK + DK + FR + NL @ 4.811207
14 DK + FR + NL + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.814058
15 DK + DK + English + FR @ 4.817941
16 FR + NL + NO + NO @ 4.845960
17 DK + NO + PT + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.869868
18 DK + ES + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.870558
19 NO + NO + NO + PT @ 4.871549
20 ES + NO + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.877505


# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 29.21
2 ATLANTIC 24.43
3 WEST_MED 13.7
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.46
5 EAST_EURO 11.36
6 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.37
7 EAST_MED 2.08
8 WEST_ASIAN 2.02
9 SIBERIAN 1.27
10 EAST_AFRICAN 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 NL 4.89
2 English 5.16
3 DK 5.89
4 Cornish 6.19
5 West_&_Central_German 6.28
6 Orcadian 7.2
7 NO 7.45
8 IE 7.68
9 South_&_Central_Swedish 8.2
10 Scottish 9.24
11 FR 10.96
12 North_Swedish 11.69
13 AT 12.46
14 HU 17.55
15 PT 17.83
16 ES 18.39
17 South_Finnish 19.91
18 Serbian 19.99
19 North_Italian 21.99
20 PL 22.81

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.4% DK + 8.6% Sardinian @ 3.77
2 96.3% English + 3.7% South_Indian @ 3.99
3 95.7% English + 4.3% Bangladeshi @ 4.15
4 96% English + 4% Gujarati @ 4.23
5 95.9% English + 4.1% IN @ 4.26
6 88.7% NO + 11.3% Sardinian @ 4.27
7 97.3% NL + 2.7% South_Indian @ 4.28
8 71.4% DK + 28.6% FR @ 4.3
9 62.4% NO + 37.6% FR @ 4.32
10 74.8% NO + 25.2% ES @ 4.4
11 82.1% DK + 17.9% ES @ 4.43
12 81.7% DK + 18.3% PT @ 4.45
13 97.2% NL + 2.8% Bangladeshi @ 4.46
14 74.3% NO + 25.7% PT @ 4.47
15 97.4% NL + 2.6% Gujarati @ 4.52
16 97.4% NL + 2.6% IN @ 4.55
17 95.8% English + 4.2% Burusho @ 4.56
18 96.2% English + 3.8% Sindhi @ 4.56
19 59.4% South_&_Central_Swedish + 40.6% FR @ 4.59
20 96.9% NL + 3.1% Sardinian @ 4.64


the 3D version of PCA appears to be sensitive to your 3.37% south Asian and 1.27% Siberian score, and shifts you away from English. In 2D pca there are no South Asian populations, so that component score doesn't matter.

Rędwald
11-21-2019, 09:47 PM
the 3D version of PCA appears to be sensitive to your 3.37% south Asian and 1.27% Siberian score, and shifts you away from English. In 2D pca there are no South Asian populations, so that component score doesn't matter.

Do you mean the score of the 2D PCA? or the South Asian/Siberian? I have minor Amerindian 2-3% So this calc probably represents it as such.

Lemgrant
11-21-2019, 09:54 PM
Do you mean the score of the 2D PCA? or the South Asian/Siberian? I have minor Amerindian 2-3% So this calc probably represents it as such.

I mean that your South Asian/Siberian score doesn't affect your positioning on 2d pca, because there are no south Asian populations. But it does on 3d pca.
Yes, south Asian can be Amerindian proxy in this calculator it seems.

Impaler
11-21-2019, 10:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/rmcQjCP.png (https://imgur.com/rmcQjCP)

Impaler
11-21-2019, 10:10 PM
3d version:

http://i.imgur.com/Pwmij2Z.png (https://imgur.com/Pwmij2Z)

Lemgrant
11-22-2019, 11:50 AM
here is collection of gedmatch kits for you for plotting:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?245352-Random-GEDmatch-kits&p=6234136&viewfull=1#post6234136

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?245352-Random-GEDmatch-kits&p=6233948&viewfull=1#post6233948

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?245352-Random-GEDmatch-kits&p=6240836&viewfull=1#post6240836

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?244543-Ancient-samples-GEDmatch-kits

GEDmatch, list of ancient samples with kit numbers
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/34338-GEDmatch-list-of-ancient-samples-with-kit-numbers

Lemgrant
11-23-2019, 10:24 AM
>>

Fistora
06-18-2025, 06:02 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/kGjzmxgn/image.png

Dušan
06-18-2025, 10:48 AM
https://i.imgur.com/3mmSU61.png

Fabricius
06-26-2025, 02:07 AM
https://i.imgur.com/VLrWaaU.png