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ProudBrit
12-20-2019, 05:47 PM
you can deal with a retard without involving everybody else

Don't be stupid, she's been using vlach as an insult way before I registered, its actually a common slur croats use for serbs

Jana
12-20-2019, 05:48 PM
you can deal with a retard without involving everybody else

Sure. Here are closest populations for Romanian regional averages, it might interest you.

Distance to: Romanian_Transylvania

2.17136337 Montenegrin
2.80173161 Romanian_Oltenia
3.35058204 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
3.46857194 Macedonian
5.19625827 Romanian_Muntenia
5.28474219 Bulgarian
5.43379241 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
5.51707466 Serbian_new
6.32068677 North_Macedonian
7.43969085 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina

Distance to: Romanian_Muntenia

3.93836513 Macedonian
4.32289255 Bulgarian
4.63153120 North_Macedonian
4.94441099 Romanian_Oltenia
5.19625827 Romanian_Transylvania
5.57535178 Montenegrin
6.34022870 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
8.47329327 Kosovo_Albanian
8.65974999 Serbian_new
8.82911094 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster

Distance to: Romanian_Oltenia

2.09419740 Macedonian
2.16630799 Montenegrin
2.80173161 Romanian_Transylvania
3.60019444 Bulgarian
3.84404735 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
4.61174926 North_Macedonian
4.94441099 Romanian_Muntenia
6.75425792 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
6.83800712 Serbian_new
8.81076614 Szekely


Distance to: Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina

1.74364637 Bosnian
2.97378336 Serbian_Bosnia
3.13517145 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
3.24833804 Croat_Split
3.33758016 Serbian_new
3.34270848 Szekely
3.52211584 Romanian_Botosani
3.70179686 Moldavian
5.06684320 Csango_Gymes
5.46221567 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster

Distance to: Romanian_South_Central_Moldova

3.14367692 Montenegrin
3.35058204 Romanian_Transylvania
3.84404735 Romanian_Oltenia
3.94958206 Serbian_new
3.99778689 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
4.28039783 Macedonian
5.63089691 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
5.92460710 Bosnian
5.99145224 Bulgarian
6.29803938 Szekely

Distance to: Romanian_Botosani

3.37293977 Bosnian
3.52211584 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
3.77128625 Moldavian
4.76462354 Serbian_Bosnia
5.14660082 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
5.17180114 Serbian_new
5.22348543 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
5.36042909 Croat_Split
6.61431780 Szekely
7.15705945 Croatian

vbnetkhio
12-20-2019, 05:50 PM
I2-din is definitely not a White Serb marker, PH908 doesn't exist among Sorbs. Sorry.

R-YP4278, I-Z16983, I-A5913 connect Serbs with Eastern Germany.

Jana
12-20-2019, 05:51 PM
References for Dinaric Croatians?

Vast majority of Serbs with that marker are from regions west of Vrbas river. Still it's minority of total R1a Krajina Serbs.

Check my Croatian 23andme thread.

Jana
12-20-2019, 05:53 PM
R-YP4278, I-Z16983, I-A5913 connect Serbs with Eastern Germany.

Z16983 is most likely Polabian Slavic, because Sorbs don't have it. It's one of few PH908 subclades with ''western'' origin.
This blog is great:

https://southslavsdna.blogspot.com/2019/07/ph908-subclades-migration.html

Among Serbs type of R1a M458 Sorbs have should be White Serb marker.

Jana
12-20-2019, 05:55 PM
When all the maps are merged it indicates that there's a higher variance of I-PH908 subclades in Eastern Europe than in Central Europe and that from Eastern Europe migrated in the direction of West and South. The most if not all subclades arrived in Southeastern Europe from Eastern Europe, roughly along the area of Eastern Carpathian Mountains and through Carpathian Basin, most probably during the period of Pannonian Avars and revolts against them by Slavs and Bulgars by the mid-7th century. It is not excluded a possibility of a very limited Polabian Slavic contribution (only for subclades Z16983 and FT16449). The samples belonging to currently unknown subclades are also largely from the countries in Eastern Europe, while in Southeastern Europe particularly Bulgaria, which also indicates the movement's direction. The result supports the conclusions from the previous post.

vbnetkhio
12-20-2019, 06:14 PM
Z16983 is most likely Polabian Slavic, because Sorbs don't have it. It's one of few PH908 subclades with ''western'' origin.
This blog is great:

https://southslavsdna.blogspot.com/2019/07/ph908-subclades-migration.html

Among Serbs type of R1a M458 Sorbs have should be White Serb marker.

"Polabian Slavs" is sometimes used for all Slavic tribes in modern day Germany, he obviuosly meant that, not the ones north of Berlin

ixulescu
12-20-2019, 06:16 PM
Sure. Here are closest populations for Romanian regional averages, it might interest you.

Distance to: Romanian_Transylvania

2.17136337 Montenegrin
2.80173161 Romanian_Oltenia
3.35058204 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
3.46857194 Macedonian
5.19625827 Romanian_Muntenia
5.28474219 Bulgarian
5.43379241 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
5.51707466 Serbian_new
6.32068677 North_Macedonian
7.43969085 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina

...

Thanks. They're interesting, in the sense that South Slavic populations get in-between Romanian regions - though I wouldn't put much trust in this sorting order.

We're a long way from a proper picture of these populations - we need far more samples.

Jana
12-20-2019, 06:24 PM
"Polabian Slavs" is sometimes used for all Slavic tribes in modern day Germany, he obviuosly meant that, not the ones north of Berlin

I see. In any way, whatever Slavic subclades Sorbs, western Czechs and Germans of Slavic ancestry in East Germany share with Serbs, those are potentially White Serbian ones.
These: Z16983, FT16449 among DinS and some Din N and R1a ones.

Pribislav
12-20-2019, 06:36 PM
Z16983 is most likely Polabian Slavic, because Sorbs don't have it. It's one of few PH908 subclades with ''western'' origin.
This blog is great:

https://southslavsdna.blogspot.com/2019/07/ph908-subclades-migration.html

Among Serbs type of R1a M458 Sorbs have should be White Serb marker.

Your Serbian ancestors were R1a>R-A11460 https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-A11460/

Jana
12-20-2019, 06:37 PM
Your Serbian ancestors were R1a>R-A11460 https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-A11460/

Cool. Which type of Din N are you?

Jana
12-20-2019, 10:49 PM
Target: Feiichy
Distance: 2.5769% / 2.57688495 | ADC: 0.25x

79.4 Slovenian
8.8 East_German
6.8 North_Ossetian
5.0 Austrian


Target: Feiichy
Distance: 3.1997% / 3.19967863 | ADC: 0.5x

94.2 Slovenian
4.2 Ossetian
1.6 Austrian


Distance to: Feiichy

4.75140119 Slovenian
5.82050685 Hungarian
6.06550905 Croatian
6.24804770 Moldavian
6.26390453 Croat_Split
6.38313403 Kaykavian_Croatian
6.68282407 Serbian_Bosnia
6.74792561 Szekely
6.82038122 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
7.43609440 Csango_Gymes
7.48899192 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
7.53112094 Bosnian
7.80865276 Slovak
8.27110029 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
8.46575614 Serbian_new
8.87282931 Romanian_Botosani
9.12703128 Austrian
9.16560418 Czech
9.81777979 East_German
10.84686130 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
11.21071809 Romanian_Transylvania
11.52710552 Montenegrin
11.55682482 German_east
12.21472881 South_Polish
12.25403199 Ukrainian_Lviv

Jana
12-20-2019, 10:50 PM
Very Slovenian, I guess. :)

oszkar07
12-20-2019, 11:05 PM
Updated K13

Distance to: oszkar

4.60931665 Austrian
4.96057456 East_German
7.39142747 Hungarian
7.63717880 German_east
8.51472254 Kaykavian_Croatian
8.75839026 Czech
9.85700259 German_West
10.41804204 West_German
10.45112771 Slovenian
10.58319151 Slovak
10.82237959 Swiss_German
11.03969202 North_German
11.23206570 Danish
11.36546963 South_Dutch
12.15008642 Swedish
12.60767227 Csango_Gymes
13.29339310 North-Swedish
13.40982476 Szekely
13.45157983 Swiss_French
13.55087820 Croatian
14.16701098 Croat_Split
14.36563608 South_Polish
14.40840163 Serbian_Bosnia
14.61055098 English
14.81032410 North-Dutch

Mingle
12-20-2019, 11:15 PM
Can you edit the spreadsheet for these so they look neater?

Bosnian,24.84,31.83,15.18,8.94,14.03,1.64,1.59,0.5 7,0.58,0.38,0.35,0.01,0.08
Latvian,26.74,58.36,6.41,2.73,0.78,1.10,0.77,0.09, 1.43,0.73,0.32,0.33,0.22
Montenegrin,25.28,25.56,17.57,10.28,16.93,2.42,0.1 9,0.26,0.70,0.45,0.30,0.03,0.06
Slovak,30.84,37.18,12.99,6.30,8.00,1.09,1.03,0.39, 0.58,0.73,0.53,0.15,0.21
Slovenian,29.88,33.85,15.34,7.03,9.99,1.36,0.78,0. 27,0.45,0.53,0.29,0.14,0.12
Albanian_Kosovo,22.44,17.98,20.78,12.76,22.02,2.45 ,0.39,0.37,0.18,0.25,0.34,0.02,0.02

I rounded them all to the hundredths decimal. Currently, their coordinates look very sloppy like 24.8393333333,31.8286666667, etc.

Also, there are two samples for some groups such as North Macedonians ("North_Macedonian" and "Macedonian"), Greek Macedonians, and Greek Peloponnesians. Can you get rid of one of those?

Pedro Ruben
12-20-2019, 11:32 PM
Eurogenes K13 updated spreadsheet

Target: Pedro
Distance: 0.5049% / 0.50493261

25.4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
14.8 Southwest_French
12.6 Swiss_Italian
12.2 Algerian
10.4 Norwegian
6.8 Spanish_Aragon
6.0 French_Basque
4.2 Mozabite_Berber
3.6 Southwest_Finnish
2.0 Yemenite_Jewish
1.0 Yoruban
0.8 Karitiana
0.2 Ethiopian_Amhara

Eurogenes K13 original spredsheet

Target: Pedro
Distance: 0.5333% / 0.53330539

37.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
20.2 Southwest_French
9.8 Spanish_Aragon
8.8 Tunisian
5.2 Norwegian
4.8 Southwest_Finnish
4.4 Algerian
3.6 Southeast_English
3.0 Yemenite_Jewish
1.0 Yoruban
0.6 French_Basque
0.4 Karitiana
0.4 Mayan
0.2 Bantu_S.W.

Mingle
12-20-2019, 11:33 PM
Bosniak_Sandzak,24.31,25.40,19.12,9.89,16.79,2.86, 0.35,0.25,0.20,0.51,0.13,0.00,0.19

Average is based off of 4 Bosniak samples, 2 from SW Serbia and 2 from Montenegro. There wasn't a difference based off being from Serbia or Montenegro so I just combined them.



Bosniak_Tuzla,27.03,35.88,13.58,7.51,12.14,0.81,0. 39,0.38,0.78,0.57,0.51,0.20,0.27

This average contains only two samples. I found a third sample that scored similar to them (but with lower NA), but didn't include them as they were partially from Bosnian Krajina. Including them wouldn't have really changed the average much, but I'm just bringing them up to show that the average will probably be representative.

With a third sample included: Bosniak_Tuzla_2,25.53,36.20,13.38,8.28,11.81,1.74, 0.55,0.27,0.81,0.38,0.71,0.13,0.2

Bosniaks from here score a bit differently to other Bosniaks so that's why I made this average. Otherwise it doesn't make much sense making an average for every other city.



Edit: They're all for K13.

Lucas
12-21-2019, 08:13 AM
Very Slovenian, I guess. :)

Croat_Bosnia added to K13 and K15

Mingle
12-21-2019, 08:15 AM
Here is a K13 average for Serbs from Croatia. It contains 6 samples, thanks to Dušan for providing them.

Serb_Croatia,24.61,30.10,17.60,8.67,14.73,1.85,0.5 0,0.16,1.05,0.23,0.36,0.01,0.05

Dušan
12-21-2019, 08:18 AM
++++

Dušan
12-21-2019, 08:27 AM
Here is a K13 average for Serbs from Croatia. It contains 6 samples, thanks to Dušan for providing them.

Serb_Croatia,24.61,30.10,17.60,8.67,14.73,1.85,0.5 0,0.16,1.05,0.23,0.36,0.01,0.05

These are results of Decius, Aye father, me, one other Lika Serb, and two other Dalmatian Serbs.
I gave result of HungryLion to Mingle, as well. I think he should be added, as well.

https://i.imgur.com/PjXOut5.jpg

Lucas
12-21-2019, 08:31 AM
For K13 Kurds Iran and Iraq

Kurd_Iran,4,2.22,7.31,39.88,31.03,4.36,9.29,0,0.99 ,0.19,0,0.03,0.54
Kurd_Sorani,2.98,4.22,6.58,38,30.5,6.66,8.45,0.41, 0.76,0.66,0.24,0.72,0.27

added

Thracian
12-21-2019, 08:35 AM
I was collecting ancient samples for Eurogenes K15 almost a year ago. I guess I had app. 200 samples. I can share them if you guys are interested.

Lucas
12-21-2019, 08:44 AM
I was collecting ancient samples for Eurogenes K15 almost a year ago. I guess I had app. 200 samples. I can share them if you guys are interested.

Yes please. But I will make K15 Ancient using them. Only with ancient.

Lucas
12-21-2019, 08:45 AM
Here is a K13 average for Serbs from Croatia. It contains 6 samples, thanks to Dušan for providing them.

Serb_Croatia,24.61,30.10,17.60,8.67,14.73,1.85,0.5 0,0.16,1.05,0.23,0.36,0.01,0.05

added

Thracian
12-21-2019, 08:49 AM
Yes please. But I will make K15 Ancient using them. Only with ancient.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AF3i6nrt7yJFzmFgRmUxnUICOcFouyLo/view?usp=sharing

If you need more information about them I can also provide them (including some Gedmatch Kit numbers).

Jana
12-21-2019, 08:54 AM
Croat_Bosnia added to K13 and K15

Thank you!

Could you please add this K13 Romanian average Mingle posted too?

Romanian_Botosani,22.52,33.55,15.3,9.67,13.39,2.08 ,1.2,0.4,1.78,0,0 ,0,0

Lucas
12-21-2019, 08:55 AM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AF3i6nrt7yJFzmFgRmUxnUICOcFouyLo/view?usp=sharing

If you need more information about them I can also provide them (including some Gedmatch Kit numbers).

Added. There are 403 actually:) If someone has K15 for other ancients please share.

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k15ancient-vahaduo.htm

Mingle
12-21-2019, 09:02 AM
Thank you!

Could you please add this Romanian average Mingle posted too?

Romanian_Botosani,22.52,33.55,15.3,9.67,13.39,2.08 ,1.2,0.4,1.78,0,0 ,0,0

This I believe is an individual sample. It was posted earlier by Nurzat. Its already included in the Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina average if I'm not mistaken, so that's why I didn't ask for it to be added. I don't really agree with how the Romanian averages were made as each of the North Romanian counties differ from each other in results so I just kept the averages for separate counties for myself.

Anyways, I'm not asking for these to be added, but here are some other Romanian counties' averages in case you're interested:

Romanian_Neamt,21.38,27.17,14.71,13.65,16.38,2.64, 0.06,1.68,1.96 ,0,0.39,0,0 (1 sample)
Romanian_Suceava,25.99,30.04,15.04,9.54,13.01,1.18 ,1.63,0.51,1.73,0.81,0.37,0,0.18 (2 samples)
Romanian_Vaslui,25.01,27.87,16.23,9.04,15.56,2.67, 0.37,0.09,2.61,0.29,0.28,0,0 (2 samples)

Nurzat provided the results for all of the above except for one Suceava sample that I provided.

Mingle
12-21-2019, 09:09 AM
Added. There are 403 actually:) If someone has K15 for other ancients please share.

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k15ancient-vahaduo.htm

By the way, do you mind answering this?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?310130-NEW!-All-Gedmatch-calculators-on-Vahaduo-ON-LINE&p=6406691#post6406691

Jana
12-21-2019, 09:10 AM
This I believe is an individual sample. It was posted earlier by Nurzat. Its already included in the Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina average if I'm not mistaken, so that's why I didn't ask for it to be added. I don't really agree with how the Romanian averages were made as each of the North Romanian counties differ from each other in results so I just kept the averages for separate counties for myself.

Anyways, I'm not asking for these to be added, but here are some other Romanian counties' averages in case you're interested:

Romanian_Neamt,21.38,27.17,14.71,13.65,16.38,2.64, 0.06,1.68,1.96 ,0,0.39,0,0 (1 sample)
Romanian_Suceava,25.99,30.04,15.04,9.54,13.01,1.18 ,1.63,0.51,1.73,0.81,0.37,0,0.18 (2 samples)
Romanian_Vaslui,25.01,27.87,16.23,9.04,15.56,2.67, 0.37,0.09,2.61,0.29,0.28,0,0 (2 samples)

Nurzat provided the results for all of the above except for one Suceava sample that I provided.

Ah, thanks for clarifying. 1 sample is def. too little. It can be random. l'll run my dad with them just for curiosity and to see how close to Bosnian-Croats is he.

Lucas
12-21-2019, 09:12 AM
Thank you!

Could you please add this K13 Romanian average Mingle posted too?

Romanian_Botosani,22.52,33.55,15.3,9.67,13.39,2.08 ,1.2,0.4,1.78,0,0 ,0,0

yes

Jana
12-21-2019, 09:12 AM
My dad is closest to Bosnian Croats now, followed by Dalmatian Croats! :)

https://i.imgur.com/bdokoK5.png

Lucas
12-21-2019, 09:13 AM
This I believe is an individual sample. It was posted earlier by Nurzat. Its already included in the Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina average if I'm not mistaken, so that's why I didn't ask for it to be added. I don't really agree with how the Romanian averages were made as each of the North Romanian counties differ from each other in results so I just kept the averages for separate counties for myself.

Anyways, I'm not asking for these to be added, but here are some other Romanian counties' averages in case you're interested:

Romanian_Neamt,21.38,27.17,14.71,13.65,16.38,2.64, 0.06,1.68,1.96 ,0,0.39,0,0 (1 sample)
Romanian_Suceava,25.99,30.04,15.04,9.54,13.01,1.18 ,1.63,0.51,1.73,0.81,0.37,0,0.18 (2 samples)
Romanian_Vaslui,25.01,27.87,16.23,9.04,15.56,2.67, 0.37,0.09,2.61,0.29,0.28,0,0 (2 samples)

Nurzat provided the results for all of the above except for one Suceava sample that I provided.

I'm not sure if it is too fragmented for Romania.

Jana
12-21-2019, 09:14 AM
Romanian from Suceava (Moldova) are on 5th place, quite close.

Dušan
12-21-2019, 09:17 AM
https://i.imgur.com/J7YAJGR.jpg

Jana
12-21-2019, 09:18 AM
Target: Feiichy_Father
Distance: 1.7427% / 1.74272214 | ADC: 0.25x

28.2 Croat_Split
23.8 Slovenian
21.8 Hungarian
13.6 Bosniak_Tuzla
10.4 Romanian_Transylvania
1.6 Romanian_Muntenia
0.6 Dai

vbnetkhio
12-21-2019, 09:19 AM
Croat_Bosnia added to K13 and K15

is it just Bosnians without Herzegovinians?

could you add this


Romanian_Gorj,25.62,23.57,18.72,9.22,17.21,1.49,1. 41,1.28,0.58,0.01,0.32,0.39,0.19

Jana
12-21-2019, 09:42 AM
What data I should use for Stears? I know his Ancestrydata contains much more snps, but results he gets with 23andme data are very different and make him more of average Hungarian.

Mingle
12-21-2019, 09:48 AM
What data I should use for Stears? I know his Ancestrydata contains much more snps, but results he gets with 23andme data are very different and make him more of average Hungarian.Combine them into a superkit. It'll have more SNPs than either of them. You can do that with either buying GEDmatch tier 1 or on DNA Kit Studio (free).

But if you aren't doing that, I'd suggest AncestryDNA. He's 1/2 Szekely so him not getting Hungarian at a close distance is reasonable.

Jana
12-21-2019, 09:53 AM
Combine them into a superkit. It'll have more SNPs than either of them. You can do that with either buying GEDmatch tier 1 or on DNA Kit Studio (free).

But if you aren't doing that, I'd suggest AncestryDNA. He's 1/2 Szekely so him not getting Hungarian at a close distance is reasonable.

I would like to make a superkit, but I don't know how. Here are his results with his original data.

https://i.imgur.com/bMZLwlx.png


Target: Stears
Distance: 1.0820% / 1.08195954 | ADC: 0.25x

52.8 Hungarian
22.2 Moldavian
18.0 Romanian_Suceava
6.0 Yagnobi
1.0 Tatar

andre
12-21-2019, 10:07 AM
botosani samples it’s a assimilated south ukrainian. North romanians looks more like Suceava samples.

andre
12-21-2019, 10:13 AM
https://imgur.com/HD0QVtn

Mingle
12-21-2019, 10:18 AM
botosani samples it’s a assimilated south ukrainian. North romanians looks more like Suceava samples.It scores similarily to Zmey and isn't far from the Moldavian (Bessarabian) average. It borders the Republic of Moldova so it makes sense for it to score similarily to it. Suceava is probably less Slavic due to being more western and mountainous. Nurzat posted a sample from Iasi/Botosani that scored similar to it before. I also posted a sample of a 1/2 Wallachian 1/2 Iasi-Botosani Romanian that scored 30%+ Baltic (keep in mind average Wallachians score 21-24% Baltic). So I don't think it's mixed with Ukrainian. SW Ukrainians score over 35% Baltic on average (similar to Croats) and are far from this person.

andre
12-21-2019, 10:28 AM
It scores similarily to Zmey and isn't far from the Moldavian (Bessarabian) average. It borders the Republic of Moldova so it makes sense for it to score similarily to it. Suceava is probably less Slavic due to being more western and mountainous. Nurzat posted a sample from Iasi/Botosani that scored similar to it before. I also posted a sample of a 1/2 Wallachian 1/2 Iasi-Botosani Romanian that scored 30%+ Baltic (keep in mind average Wallachians score 21-24% Baltic). So I don't think it's mixed with Ukrainian. SW Ukrainians score over 35% Baltic on average (similar to Croats) and are far from this person.

Man, listen, it’s not a ipotethical situation :) , he’s mixed with moldovan ukrainians. :)

Ljubic
12-21-2019, 11:21 AM
Distance to: Ljubic-Dad
2.75437833 Romanian_Botosani
2.94245068 Bosnian
3.23188799 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
3.74386164 Serb_Croatia
3.76884598 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
3.89253662 Serbian_new
3.95490044 Serbian_Bosnia
4.31754560 Croat_Split
4.38734544 Moldavian
5.33645013 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
5.75703048 Szekely
5.94672021 Croat_Bosnia
6.05145437 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
6.40815106 Csango_Gymes
6.89605684 Bosniak_Tuzla
7.59501810 Croatian
7.92424699 Montenegrin
8.14679692 Romanian_Transylvania
8.23153084 Bosniak_Sandzak
8.35285403 Slovenian
9.25499865 Romanian_Oltenia
9.32309222 Macedonian
10.64788242 Hungarian
11.12030575 Bulgarian
11.28959698 Romanian_Muntenia

Botosani is propably more like moldovan average

Ford
12-21-2019, 11:39 AM
Distance to: Ford
3.34351892 Serbian_Bosnia
4.43035619 Bosnian
5.04413521 Bosniak
5.15313497 Romania_Nw
6.32132403 Croat_Bosnia
6.33881692 Romania_Ne
6.58376032 Moldavian
7.72230785 Slovenian
7.72935314 Romania_Sw
7.90444811 Croatian
8.07014554 Montenegrin
8.12596456 Serbian
8.22755128 Romania_Se
8.31912856 South_Serbian
8.51683040 Hungarian
8.73553519 Szekely
9.45547827 Macedonian
9.76327814 Romanian
9.95891058 Romania_South
10.35446883 Slovak
10.70991597 Bulgarian
10.89955504 Kaykavian_Croatian
11.57972366 Austrian
11.58190831 Czech
13.01095692 Ukrainian_Lviv

Moje ime
12-21-2019, 11:41 AM
Can someone post a link to newest version of calculator? I can't follow all updates.

Ford
12-21-2019, 11:43 AM
Can someone post a link to newest version of calculator? I can't follow all updates.

I just go here and choose the updated versions http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/

Jana
12-21-2019, 11:44 AM
Distance to: Ford
3.34351892 Serbian_Bosnia
4.43035619 Bosnian
5.04413521 Bosniak
5.15313497 Romania_Nw
6.32132403 Croat_Bosnia
6.33881692 Romania_Ne
6.58376032 Moldavian
7.72230785 Slovenian
7.72935314 Romania_Sw
7.90444811 Croatian
8.07014554 Montenegrin
8.12596456 Serbian
8.22755128 Romania_Se
8.31912856 South_Serbian
8.51683040 Hungarian
8.73553519 Szekely
9.45547827 Macedonian
9.76327814 Romanian
9.95891058 Romania_South
10.35446883 Slovak
10.70991597 Bulgarian
10.89955504 Kaykavian_Croatian
11.57972366 Austrian
11.58190831 Czech
13.01095692 Ukrainian_Lviv

You are Bosnian as hell.

Dušan
12-21-2019, 11:45 AM
Can someone post a link to newest version of calculator? I can't follow all updates.

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm

Jana
12-21-2019, 11:45 AM
Distance to: Ford
3.34351892 Serbian_Bosnia
4.43035619 Bosnian
5.04413521 Bosniak
5.15313497 Romania_Nw
6.32132403 Croat_Bosnia
6.33881692 Romania_Ne
6.58376032 Moldavian
7.72230785 Slovenian
7.72935314 Romania_Sw
7.90444811 Croatian
8.07014554 Montenegrin
8.12596456 Serbian
8.22755128 Romania_Se
8.31912856 South_Serbian
8.51683040 Hungarian
8.73553519 Szekely
9.45547827 Macedonian
9.76327814 Romanian
9.95891058 Romania_South
10.35446883 Slovak
10.70991597 Bulgarian
10.89955504 Kaykavian_Croatian
11.57972366 Austrian
11.58190831 Czech
13.01095692 Ukrainian_Lviv

You are Bosnian as hell.

Ford
12-21-2019, 11:57 AM
You are Bosnian as hell.

Strange how I ended up closer to Slovenian reference than Croatian though.

Moje ime
12-21-2019, 11:58 AM
https://i.imgur.com/3LuDuK4.png

https://i.imgur.com/r9mcxMy.png

Bosniak_Tuzla :D

Wonder how many samples this consists of.

Dick
12-21-2019, 12:21 PM
Bosniak_tuzla. Now I’ve seen everything. You people are nuts

Jana
12-21-2019, 12:22 PM
Strange how I ended up closer to Slovenian reference than Croatian though.

Do you have above average western Euro perhaps?

Jana
12-21-2019, 12:23 PM
Bosniak_tuzla. Now I’ve seen everything. You people are nuts

Not really, people from that part of Bosnia are genetically distinct compared to average.

Ford
12-21-2019, 12:28 PM
Do you have above average western Euro perhaps?

https://i.imgur.com/MaOT7kF.png

Ford
12-21-2019, 12:28 PM
Not really, people from that part of Bosnia are genetically distinct compared to average.

In what way? More southern?

Jana
12-21-2019, 12:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/MaOT7kF.png

Hard to say from these, I get less Atlantic than you but much more North Sea. K13 is better.
I have doubts about Slovenian average as I feel it includes some people of recent migrat (Balkan Slavic) origin.

Perhaps I am wrong.

Jana
12-21-2019, 12:31 PM
In what way? More southern?

They are very Slavic and northern shifted.

Distance to: Bosniak_Tuzla

3.08585482 Croatian
3.38087267 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
4.56516144 Slovenian
4.74349884 Croat_Bosnia
4.86668265 Moldavian

Kyp
12-21-2019, 12:41 PM
Dodecad K12b

Yagnobi,31.21,3.18,0.00,0.12,7.18,22.28,5.25,0.00, 4.53,2.88,23.40,0.00

Ford
12-21-2019, 12:42 PM
They are very Slavic and northern shifted.

Distance to: Bosniak_Tuzla

3.08585482 Croatian
3.38087267 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
4.56516144 Slovenian
4.74349884 Croat_Bosnia
4.86668265 Moldavian

Is this based on the one gedmatch kit someone posted a while back?

Dick
12-21-2019, 12:45 PM
I never get good distance on euro genes. My father’s is much better

Distance to: Dick
5.12027343 Serb_Croatia
6.58494495 Romania_Botosani
6.76739556 Bosnian
6.87808102 Serbian_new
7.09117762 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
7.21460325 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
7.30049998 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
8.20679825 Serbian_Bosnia
8.32674006 Moldavian
8.63614497 Croat_Split
9.14731108 Romanian_Transylvania
9.17406624 Macedonian
9.32659102 Bosniak_Sandzak
9.35546364 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
9.52543686 Montenegrin
9.98845333 Romanian_Oltenia
10.02182618 Bulgarian
10.23811506 Szekely
10.53337553 Romanian_Muntenia
10.57158455 Bosniak_Tuzla
10.65823537 Croat_Bosnia
11.40224539 Csango_Gymes
11.70135462 Croatian
13.04207350 Slovenian
13.08990992 North_Macedonian

Distance to: Dick-tata
1.73026010 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
1.82500839 Serbian_new
2.53712488 Bosnian
2.69987037 Serb_Croatia
2.74965225 Serbian_Bosnia
2.87947912 Croat_Split
3.20747564 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
4.08257272 Szekely
4.52575753 Croat_Bosnia
5.05919954 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
5.53680413 Romanian_Botosani
5.95143680 Csango_Gymes
6.08949954 Montenegrin
6.27698972 Moldavian
6.32393074 Romanian_Transylvania
6.54147537 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
6.90562814 Bosniak_Sandzak
6.96847186 Bosniak_Tuzla
7.60582671 Romanian_Oltenia
7.63600113 Slovenian
7.76042377 Macedonian
8.41325740 Croatian
8.97916477 Hungarian
9.55080101 Romanian_Muntenia
10.07375799 Bulgarian

Jana
12-21-2019, 12:58 PM
Is this based on the one gedmatch kit someone posted a while back?

Three samples.


Bosniaks from here score a bit differently to other Bosniaks so that's why I made this average. Otherwise it doesn't make much sense making an average for every other city.

Dušan
12-21-2019, 01:04 PM
Lukasz, please rename Serb_Croatia into Serb_Krajina.
Thank you.

Lemminkäinen
12-21-2019, 02:34 PM
Not sure about this, but anyway, MDLP WORLD-22 and my admixtures. How can I be all this :)

Target: Mm
Distance: 0.9812% / 0.98116326
28.6 Latvian
14.4 Swedish
12.8 Finnish-North
12.4 Inkeri
6.4 British
6.0 Norwegian_V
5.2 Finnish-South
4.2 Hant
3.8 Swedish_V
3.0 Saami
1.2 Udmurd
1.0 Inuit-East
0.8 Avar
0.2 Kusunda

Maintenance
12-21-2019, 02:35 PM
Nice calculator, very accurate never seen such good tool, wow can i donate money for this expert service

https://i.imgur.com/3gCS3v7.png

Jana
12-21-2019, 02:38 PM
Lukasz, please rename Serb_Croatia into Serb_Krajina.
Thank you.

Nice cope, but Dalmatian Serbs are not related to Krajina in any way. It must hurt you to see Croatia instead of ''Krajina''. Seek pychiatric help.

Dušan
12-21-2019, 02:42 PM
Nice cope, but Dalmatian Serbs are not related to Krajina in any way. It must hurt you to see Croatia instead of ''Krajina''. Seek pychiatric help.

Shut up snake. Nobody ask you anything.

Jana
12-21-2019, 02:42 PM
Shut up snake. Nobody ask you anything.

You should just fuck off with your incredible butthurt because you're incredibly annoying.

Pribislav
12-21-2019, 03:39 PM
Nice cope, but Dalmatian Serbs are not related to Krajina in any way. It must hurt you to see Croatia instead of ''Krajina''. Seek pychiatric help.

Dalmatians Serbs were never part of Military Fronier (Vojna Krajina). Lika Serbs, Kordun Serbs, Banija Serbs, and part of Slavonian Serbs were in Military Frontier.

Dick
12-21-2019, 03:56 PM
botosani samples it’s a assimilated south ukrainian. North romanians looks more like Suceava samples.

Is that nurzat’s result that are being used?

andre
12-21-2019, 04:00 PM
Is that nurzat’s result that are being used?

No, it’s a “Romanian” guy from northern Moldova, with ukrainian surname.

Pribislav
12-21-2019, 04:09 PM
Nobody know where ikavian reflex was created.
Medieval stećci from East Herzegovina are ikavian and partly ikavian. Charter of Vuk Branković is ikavian. In Šumadija on the grave from 14th century are written ikavian words "Stipan" and "bilig", look here (around middle) http://www.politika.rs/sr/clanak/387139/Kultura/Imena-cara-Urosa-i-kneza-Lazara-na-istom-spomeniku

It seems ikavian reflex in the middle age was widespread in the wider Balkan region, Prilep is mentioned as Prilip in some sources.

"Poziv na viru" ("A call to faith") of Muhamed Hevaji Uskufi (part) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhamed_Hevaji_Uskufi_Bosnevi

Ja, kauri vami vellju
Hodte nami vi na viru.
Po neviri što se kolju?
Hodte nami vi na viru.

Nismo vami mi zlotvori
Bog nas jedan jer satvori,
Budite Bogu bogotvori,
Hodte nami vi na viru.

Jedno čudo razrodi se,
Naopako jer hodi se,
Ter na jedno navodi se.
Hodte nami vi na viru.

Je li slika, bit se robit,
Po neviri sići morit,
Jedno drugom kuće orit?
Hodte nami vi na viru.

Zovemo vas jer se piše:
Boga sveta uznat više,
Paka vira teško diše,
Hodte nami vi na viru.

Kogod ima čistu pamet,
On ne misli činit zamet,
Nevirniku noge sapet.
Hodte nami vi na viru.

Nek ne čini, silu Slavu,
Ne priliči niko Lavu,
Nek uznade Svetog Savu.
Hodte nami vi na viru.

Dobro znade Donju Solan,
Rad Hevaji biti viran,
Pomoć čini, Boga jedan.
Hodte nami vi na viru.

Uskufi was Orthodox convertit on Islam, with born name Rade. When he say "dobro znade Donju Solan, Rad Hevaji biti viran" he think Tuzla know well that he will stay Muslim, but in the same time he admited that he is Orthodox convertit Rade.
Uskufi call Christians to convert on Islam ("hodte nami vi na viru" - "came to us on faith"), and in the same time say Christians and Muslims are of same blood ("jedan otac, jedna mati" - "one father, one mother").
Regardless of all this Uskufi had awe towards the Saint Sava ("ne priliči niko lavu, nek uznade Svetog Savu") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Sava

bained
12-21-2019, 04:35 PM
3.18618600 North_Macedonian
5.62271591 Macedonian
5.83867279 Romanian_Oltenia
5.94256679 Bulgarian
6.16902748 Romanian_Muntenia
6.64716806 Kosovo_Albanian
6.76724181 Montenegrin
6.90491130 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.69268484 Romanian_Transylvania
8.83603418 Albanian
8.97367260 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
9.93758019 Greek_Thessaly
11.17226342 Serbian_new
11.19485150 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
11.32309881 GR_Macedonia
11.35392884 GR_Peloponese
11.49656470 Serb_Croatia
12.57008353 Greek_Peloponnese
13.19500284 Szekely
13.24310009 Tuscan
13.62791385 Bosnian
13.67510512 Croat_Split
13.80240559 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
13.82536754 Serbian_Bosnia
13.99811773 North_Italian


Distance: 0.9826% / 0.98260262
27.0 Swiss_Italian
26.8 Bosniak_Tuzla
20.4 North_Macedonian
12.4 Lebanese_Druze
7.8 Albanian
5.0 Romanian_Muntenia
0.4 Karitiana
0.2 Belorussian

LOL

Jana
12-21-2019, 04:37 PM
Distance: 0.9826% / 0.98260262
27.0 Swiss_Italian
26.8 Bosniak_Tuzla
20.4 North_Macedonian
12.4 Lebanese_Druze
7.8 Albanian
5.0 Romanian_Muntenia
0.4 Karitiana
0.2 Belorussian

LOL

Try this with 0.25X, 0 pen doesn't work and gives nonsense models.

Dick
12-21-2019, 04:38 PM
I assume the ancient k15 needs more samples. Distance is far

Distance to: Dick-dad
16.61433417 MedievalHungarian_DA199
16.61433417 MedievalHungarian_DA199
16.61433417 MedievalHungarian_DA199
16.61433417 MedievalHungarian_DA199
17.49515361 HallstattCelt_DA112
17.49515361 HallstattCelt_DA112
17.49515361 HallstattCelt_DA112
17.49515361 HallstattCelt_DA112
18.29953551 BR2_Hungary
18.29953551 BR2_Hungary
18.29953551 BR2_Hungary
18.29953551 BR2_Hungary
18.91557031 Bavaria_STR310
18.91557031 Bavaria_STR310
18.91557031 Bavaria_STR310
18.91557031 Bavaria_STR310
19.19516606 Sunghir6
19.19516606 Sunghir6
19.19516606 Sunghir6
19.19516606 Sunghir6
19.53945496 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
19.53945496 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
19.53945496 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
19.53945496 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
21.06851205 Ostuni1

Target: Dick-dad
Distance: 1.5930% / 1.59302101
38.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
20.0 AnatolianEF_I1583
15.0 Sunghir6
11.4 Loschbour
8.2 ChalcolithicIranian
2.4 LevantPPNB_I0867
1.6 Kotias
1.2 WC1_Iran
0.8 NorthNorwegianHunterGatherer_STG001
0.4 AboriginalAustralian
0.2 Beringian_USR1

What sample is this? MesolithicNeolithicSerbia

Dušan
12-21-2019, 04:43 PM
Distance to: Dušan
15.98682583 Sunghir6
15.98682583 Sunghir6
15.98682583 Sunghir6
15.98682583 Sunghir6
17.03978286 BR2_Hungary
17.03978286 BR2_Hungary
17.03978286 BR2_Hungary
17.03978286 BR2_Hungary
18.85027321 Ostuni1
18.85027321 Ostuni1
18.85027321 Ostuni1
18.85027321 Ostuni1
19.44344877 MedievalHungarian_DA199
19.44344877 MedievalHungarian_DA199
19.44344877 MedievalHungarian_DA199
19.44344877 MedievalHungarian_DA199
19.78813786 HallstattCelt_DA112
19.78813786 HallstattCelt_DA112
19.78813786 HallstattCelt_DA112
19.78813786 HallstattCelt_DA112
20.37961972 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
20.37961972 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
20.37961972 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
20.37961972 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
20.53443936 Bavaria_STR310
20.53443936 Bavaria_STR310
20.53443936 Bavaria_STR310
20.53443936 Bavaria_STR310
21.45773287 Scythian_SCY311
21.45773287 Scythian_SCY311


Target: Dušan
Distance: 4.3211% / 4.32109034 | ADC: 0.5x
33.0 Sunghir6
15.6 Sunghir6
11.2 Sunghir6
8.2 Bavaria_STR310
4.2 Bavaria_STR310
4.2 Ostuni1
4.0 Bavaria_STR310
3.4 Mycenaean_I9041
3.0 Mycenaean_I9041
2.8 Mycenaean_I9041
2.0 Ostuni1
1.8 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
1.8 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
1.6 Ostuni1
1.4 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
0.8 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
0.6 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
0.4 ScythianMoldova_SCY197

Dušan
12-21-2019, 04:45 PM
What are Sungir6 and Ostuni1?

Dick
12-21-2019, 04:47 PM
What are Sungir6 and Ostuni1?

Sungir is the Kievan Rus ostuni is a sample de Italy I think

Rćdwald
12-21-2019, 04:48 PM
K15 Updated



Distance to: LePrieur

4.96285200 Southwest_English
5.48097619 Southeast_English
5.86636173 England
5.95083187 Dutch
6.13573142 Belgium
6.72851395 South_Dutch
6.95432959 Scotland
7.09004937 Irish
7.11506149 North_Dutch
7.52900392 West_Scottish
7.66671377 North_German
7.97671612 West_German
8.56491681 Orcadian
8.75630059 Danish
9.02880391 German_Bavarian
9.39552021 Norway
9.49397177 Norwegian
9.78301078 Swedish
9.97882759 North_Swedish
10.63857133 French
11.03500793 West_Norwegian
12.49028422 Austria-Burgenland
13.21380717 North_Swedish
13.51152841 East_German
14.05334836 Austria-Tyrol

Dušan
12-21-2019, 04:52 PM
Ostuni is Hellenic settlement in Southern Italy.


It was then re-built by the Greeks, the name Ostuni deriving from the Greek Astu néon ("new town").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostuni

vbnetkhio
12-21-2019, 04:55 PM
What are Sungir6 and Ostuni1?
ostuni1 is a paleolithic hunter gatherer from 25 800-25 500 BC, from this culture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravettian

Dušan
12-21-2019, 04:57 PM
ostuni1 is a paleolithic hunter gatherer from 25 800-25 500 BC, from this culture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravettian

ok.

bained
12-21-2019, 04:59 PM
How to do it? The pen thing

Dušan
12-21-2019, 05:02 PM
How to do it? The pen thing

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k15ancient-vahaduo.htm

Insert your result in "target", then go in "single" and there choose "add dist col"

bained
12-21-2019, 05:05 PM
Try this with 0.25X, 0 pen doesn't work and gives nonsense models.

Target: bained
Distance: 1.9426% / 1.94261678 | ADC: 0.25x
84.2 North_Macedonian
9.4 Swiss_Italian
2.4 Yemenite_Jewish
2.2 Hungarian
1.8 Swedish

I think thats worse

andre
12-21-2019, 05:10 PM
Target: AndreK15
Distance: 7.0238% / 7.02379063 | ADC: 0.5x
30.4 Sunghir6
23.2 BR2_Hungary
14.0 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
13.4 Ostuni1
10.8 Crimean_Goth_KER1
8.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729

Shalom :)

Impaler
12-21-2019, 05:47 PM
Target: Impaler
Distance: 7.4437% / 7.44371859 | ADC: 0.5x
31.0 Bavaria_STR310
14.8 Bavaria_STR310
14.0 Bavaria_STR310
9.2 Kipchak_DA179
7.4 Canaanite_ERS1790729
4.0 Canaanite_ERS1790729
3.8 Ostuni1
3.2 Kipchak_DA179
2.8 Kipchak_DA179
2.6 Canaanite_ERS1790729
2.2 Ostuni1
2.0 Sunghir6
1.6 Ostuni1
0.8 Sunghir6
0.6 Sunghir6


Distance to: Impaler
14.11308967 Bavaria_STR310
14.11308967 Bavaria_STR310
14.11308967 Bavaria_STR310
14.11308967 Bavaria_STR310
20.99249151 Crimean_Goth_KER1
20.99249151 Crimean_Goth_KER1
20.99249151 Crimean_Goth_KER1
20.99249151 Crimean_Goth_KER1
21.10170372 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
21.10170372 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
21.10170372 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
21.10170372 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
21.18758363 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
21.18758363 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
21.60167586 MedievalHungarian_DA199
21.60167586 MedievalHungarian_DA199
21.60167586 MedievalHungarian_DA199
21.60167586 MedievalHungarian_DA199
22.13629825 BronzAgeBalkan
22.13629825 BronzAgeBalkan
22.13629825 BronzAgeBalkan
22.13629825 BronzAgeBalkan
22.14342792 Scythian_SCY311
22.14342792 Scythian_SCY311
22.14342792 Scythian_SCY311

Jana
12-21-2019, 05:50 PM
Target: bained
Distance: 1.9426% / 1.94261678 | ADC: 0.25x
84.2 North_Macedonian
9.4 Swiss_Italian
2.4 Yemenite_Jewish
2.2 Hungarian
1.8 Swedish

I think thats worse

I don't see how. Shows you 85% North Macedonian like and they are closest thing to Bulgarians. You seem to have some extra Celtic input and traces of this and that compared to average.

Dušan
12-21-2019, 05:56 PM
Target: Dušan
Distance: 4.3211% / 4.32109034 | ADC: 0.5x
33.0 Sunghir6
15.6 Sunghir6
11.2 Sunghir6
8.2 Bavaria_STR310
4.2 Bavaria_STR310
4.2 Ostuni1
4.0 Bavaria_STR310
3.4 Mycenaean_I9041
3.0 Mycenaean_I9041
2.8 Mycenaean_I9041
2.0 Ostuni1
1.8 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
1.8 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
1.6 Ostuni1
1.4 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
0.8 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
0.6 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
0.4 ScythianMoldova_SCY197

What is Gedmatch kit of this Bavaria_STR310?

Mingle
12-21-2019, 06:11 PM
Man, listen, it’s not a ipotethical situation :) , he’s mixed with moldovan ukrainians. :)

Okay. Well then its weird that Nurzat posted him.

WeirdLookingFellow
12-21-2019, 06:17 PM
What is Gedmatch kit of this Bavaria_STR310?

It was posted here on a thread last year and I tried to run it, but it does not exist anymore in the database. It should be reuploaded, as it's one of the samples found in Bavaria that came actually from SE Europe and the study discussing it named it "Highly similar to Tuscans".

bained
12-21-2019, 06:34 PM
K15 looks better:

5.56008993 Macedonian_2
5.62554487 Macedonian
6.24867986 Albanian-Macedonia
6.29841250 Bulgarian
6.58397718 Kosovo_Albanian
7.04087353 Romanian
7.21567738 Albanian-Kosovo
7.63986911 Romania_South
7.92155288 South_Serbian
8.14564915 Romania_Sw
8.23419476 Montenegrin
8.39707687 Gagauz
9.03735581 Italy_Friuli
9.31802554 Serbian
9.35729662 Albanian-North
9.70735288 Romania_Se
9.94751728 Albanian-South
10.05342230 Romania_Nw
10.20405312 Bulgarian_Thracian
10.52356404 Greek
10.82754358 Romania_Ne
10.85524355 GR_Peloponese
10.96036851 GR_Macedonia
11.07159880 Greek_Thessaly
11.25935056 Szekely

Target: bained
Distance: 0.5703% / 0.57029963
22.6 Latvian
19.4 Cypriot
17.4 French_Basque
7.6 Italy_Lazio
7.0 Albanian-Macedonia
6.8 West_Scottish
6.6 Lebanese_Druze
5.0 France_Corsica
4.8 Belorussian
2.6 Iraqi_Jew
0.2 Karitiana

Target: bained
Distance: 2.0552% / 2.05524919 | ADC: 0.25x
65.2 Albanian-Macedonia
25.6 Austrian
7.4 Macedonian
1.4 Yemenite_Jewish
0.4 Jordanian

Target: bained
Distance: 3.0564% / 3.05638162 | ADC: 0.5x
49.6 Albanian-Macedonia
36.2 Macedonian
8.2 Austrian
6.0 Italy_Friuli

15.40716067 Bavaria_STR310
15.40716067 Bavaria_STR310
15.40716067 Bavaria_STR310
15.40716067 Bavaria_STR310
17.02713716 BronzAgeBalkan
17.02713716 BronzAgeBalkan
17.02713716 BronzAgeBalkan
17.02713716 BronzAgeBalkan
17.16088284 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
17.16088284 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
17.16088284 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
17.16088284 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
17.19090457 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
17.19090457 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
17.19090457 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
17.19090457 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
18.15005785 BR2_Hungary
18.15005785 BR2_Hungary
18.15005785 BR2_Hungary
18.15005785 BR2_Hungary
18.17439408 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
18.17439408 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
18.44144517 MedievalHungarian_DA199
18.44144517 MedievalHungarian_DA199
18.44144517 MedievalHungarian_DA199

Target: bained
Distance: 2.5087% / 2.50873773 | ADC: 0.25x
27.2 BR2_Hungary
21.4 Sunghir6
15.6 Crimean_Goth_KER1
14.6 Canaanite_ERS1790729
14.0 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
4.8 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
2.4 Ostuni1

Target: bained
Distance: 5.5082% / 5.50818487 | ADC: 0.5x
44.4 BR2_Hungary
16.2 Crimean_Goth_KER1
13.4 Bavaria_STR310
10.2 Mycenaean_I9041
8.4 Sunghir6
7.4 Canaanite_ERS1790729

Target: bained
Distance: 0.0685% / 0.06847825
14.8 LaBrana(Spain)
14.0 Sunghir6
9.6 Canaanite_ERS1790729
8.6 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
6.2 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
5.0 AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic_Tep003
4.8 Loschbour
3.6 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
3.2 Ovaören_Topakhöyük_AnatoliaEBA_MA2212
3.0 CovachadelAngel_COV20126
2.6 NE1_Starcevo(Hungary)
2.4 CheddarMan
2.0 Andronovo_RISE500
2.0 Minoan_Lasithi_I0074
2.0 NeolithicUkraine_I1736
1.4 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
1.2 EarlyBA_PL_N17
1.0 AnatolianEF_I0709
1.0 AnatolianEF_I0746
1.0 BR2_Hungary
1.0 Canaanite_ERS1790733
1.0 KurdistanChalcolithic_I1662
0.8 BronzeAgeOuterHebrides_I2655
0.8 NorthNorwegianHunterGatherer_STG001
0.8 ScythianMoldova_SCY300
0.6 BronzeAgeNetherlands_I4070
0.6 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
0.6 Minoan_Lasithi_I9005
0.6 Sidon_733
0.4 AnatolianEF_I1583
0.4 JordanEBA_I1705
0.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
0.4 Sidon_731
0.2 Ajvide58(Sweden)
0.2 ArmeniaCA_I1631
0.2 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1407
0.2 ArmenianEBA_I1635
0.2 JordanEBA_I1730
0.2 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2200
0.2 KennewickMan
0.2 RemedelloCulture_RISE487
0.2 SharakhalsunSteppeMaykop_SA6004
0.2 Sintashta_RISE395
0.2 Srubnaya_I0423

Leto
12-21-2019, 06:56 PM
asuvis' K13 (don't know where the guy is at now). It puts him at nearly 60% Balto-Slavic

Distance to: asuvis
16.03627451 Moldavian
18.30082239 Romanian
18.63234016 Bulgarian
18.65033244 Serbian
19.04137600 Croatian
20.20426935 Tatar
21.30106335 Hungarian
22.00521075 Ukrainian_Lviv
22.86619995 Ukrainian_Belgorod
23.55644710 Ukrainian
23.60540192 South_Polish
23.85266442 Southwest_Russian
25.78270544 Austrian
26.28875615 Greek_Thessaly
26.41324668 Erzya
26.50677649 Polish
26.76403557 East_German
26.80587809 Russian_Smolensk
27.25132841 Kargopol_Russian
28.09200242 Estonian_Polish
28.23385202 Nogay
28.66618042 Belorussian
28.77856668 Chuvash
30.42852116 Kumyk
30.57076708 Tabassaran

Target: asuvis
Distance: 0.6933% / 0.69332258
45.4 Southwest_Russian
19.6 Lezgin
10.4 Lithuanian
9.4 Abhkasian
8.0 Armenian
3.6 Lebanese_Druze
2.2 Ukrainian_Belgorod
0.8 Karitiana
0.4 Erzya
0.2 Bulgarian

Vid Flumina
12-21-2019, 07:08 PM
Target: VFlumina
Distance: 2.1657% / 2.16570756 | ADC: 0.25x
47.4 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
25.6 MedievalHungarian_DA199
13.2 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
10.4 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
2.2 Kotias
0.6 MalakPreslavets_I0700
0.4 LateNeolithicBronzeAgeLaos_LA364
0.2 Kura_Araxes


Target: VFlumina
Distance: 3.5013% / 3.50131033 | ADC: 0.5x
42.2 MedievalHungarian_DA199
29.4 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
20.4 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
8.0 Vucedol_I3499

Kyp
12-21-2019, 07:24 PM
My father's ancient K15


https://i.imgur.com/86rop7N.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WFLmFJ3.jpg

Thracian
12-21-2019, 08:28 PM
What is Gedmatch kit of this Bavaria_STR310?

I checked my list but I don't have it. Probably, deleted from Gedmatch.

Thracian
12-21-2019, 08:31 PM
My latest K15, changed dramatically


Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 3.3270% / 3.32700553 | ADC: 0.25x
59.8 Bulgarian_Thracian
18.4 Turkish_Aydin
9.0 Lithuanian
3.6 Iranian_Persian
3.4 Romania_Sw
2.4 Iranian_Bandari
2.2 North_Ossetian
0.4 Brahui
0.4 Punjabi_Jat
0.4 Saudi

Target: Thracian
Distance: 2.6661% / 2.66607114 | ADC: 0.25x
44.6 Greek_Thessaly
19.6 Turkish_Balikesir
15.0 Croat_Bosnia
8.6 Gagauz
7.0 Afghan_Pashtun
3.6 Tabassaran
1.6 Saudi

**JC**
12-21-2019, 10:43 PM
Nothing too out of the ordinary for me.
I'm pretty Scandi.

Eurogenes K15
Distance to: JC
5.55709456 Southwest_English
6.94126069 North_Dutch
6.94146238 Southeast_English
7.26366987 South_Dutch
7.36667496 North_German
7.75495326 Danish
7.79231673 Irish
8.43045076 West_Scottish
8.69890798 West_German
9.05797439 Norwegian
9.48604238 Orcadian
9.96965897 Swedish
10.85523837 West_Norwegian
11.48969973 French
11.56798167 East_German
12.44211799 North_Swedish
16.29306294 Southwest_Finnish
17.40331865 Hungarian
17.55701854 Austrian
19.46136429 Spanish_Galicia
19.82095860 Finnish
19.98036786 Spanish_Cataluna
21.12315081 Portuguese
21.23842744 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
22.31966622 Spanish_Cantabria

Target: JC
Distance: 2.6519% / 2.65193882
45.0 West_Norwegian
21.6 Swedish
16.0 French_Basque
4.8 Sardinian
4.6 Lithuanian
4.0 Southwest_English
3.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.6 Karitiana
0.2 Chamar

J. Ketch
12-21-2019, 11:37 PM
Updated results

K13


Distance to: Creoda
2.31613903 West_Scottish
3.05762980 Irish
3.12019230 Scottish
3.17458659 Orcadian
3.71848087 North-Dutch
4.87370496 English
5.04546331 Southwest_English
5.25994297 Southeast_English
5.53094929 Norwegian
6.72308709 Welsh
7.24511560 Danish
8.06740355 North_German
8.87363511 Swedish
9.76641695 German_West
11.79990254 South_Dutch
13.19798469 West_German
16.76869405 North-Swedish
17.32742624 Swiss_German
17.67723960 French
19.01615103 Austrian
19.09527952 East_German
20.66949443 Swiss_French
21.08048624 German_east
24.24084569 Hungarian
24.54260377 Czech

Distance to: CreodaMum
2.55197962 English
3.86297813 Orcadian
4.19584318 North-Dutch
4.28864781 Irish
4.42314368 Southeast_English
4.48811765 North_German
4.87687400 German_West
4.89385329 Scottish
5.14634822 Danish
5.31528927 West_Scottish
5.45214637 Southwest_English
5.58122746 Welsh
6.17797702 Norwegian
7.49685934 South_Dutch
8.12184708 Swedish
8.61499855 West_German
12.73592949 Swiss_German
14.01233028 Austrian
14.18824866 French
14.36254504 East_German
15.50458964 North-Swedish
15.85376296 Swiss_French
17.08486757 German_east
19.40134531 Hungarian
19.73428742 Kaykavian_Croatian

Distance to: CreodaDad
3.05722096 North-Dutch
4.15204769 Norwegian
4.24338308 Orcadian
4.34893090 West_Scottish
4.57659262 Irish
5.07071001 Scottish
5.92480379 English
6.17399385 Danish
6.30933435 Southeast_English
6.96304531 Southwest_English
7.07838258 Swedish
7.33145961 North_German
8.57466034 Welsh
9.90538238 German_West
12.49791183 South_Dutch
13.67133863 West_German
14.95741956 North-Swedish
17.82479172 Swiss_German
18.31733605 East_German
18.49207127 Austrian
18.75358366 French
19.86180757 German_east
21.34172205 Swiss_French
23.36085401 Czech
23.48572971 Hungarian


Target: Creoda
Distance: 2.0248% / 2.02478631
74.6 West_Scottish
22.4 North-Dutch
3.0 Norwegian

Target: CreodaMum
Distance: 0.9729% / 0.97293676
71.4 North-Dutch
8.6 Welsh
7.0 French_Basque
3.0 South_Polish
2.8 Southeast_English
2.6 Norwegian
2.0 Kalash
1.4 Tabassaran
0.8 Georgian_imereti
0.2 Dai
0.2 East_German

Target: CreodaDad
Distance: 2.8306% / 2.83061301
41.2 North-Dutch
32.8 West_Scottish
26.0 Norwegian


K15


Distance to: Creoda
4.74016877 West_Scottish
5.33497891 Scotland
5.56342520 Irish
5.65424619 England
5.78186821 Southeast_English
6.30982567 Orcadian
7.14110636 Southwest_English
7.15485150 Dutch
7.92010101 North_Dutch
9.44473398 North_German
9.51192410 Danish
10.54729823 Belgium
10.64175268 Norway
11.14629086 Swedish
11.17606371 Norwegian
11.30107517 West_Norwegian
11.57665755 South_Dutch
11.79518970 North_Swedish
14.23212563 German_Bavarian
14.33209336 West_German
15.12494628 North_Swedish
16.30059201 French
17.06862033 Aland_Sweden
18.34113682 Austria-Burgenland
18.60710886 East_German

Distance to: CreodaMum
3.20820822 Dutch
3.90920708 Scotland
4.09079454 England
4.83204925 North_Dutch
5.33680616 Southwest_English
5.33958800 Orcadian
5.64401453 Southeast_English
5.93616880 West_Scottish
6.11015548 Danish
6.36455812 Irish
6.61306283 Norway
6.93588495 Norwegian
7.11187036 North_German
7.38524881 Swedish
7.81595803 West_Norwegian
7.96486033 Belgium
8.44212059 North_Swedish
9.12502055 West_German
9.15675161 South_Dutch
11.47654565 German_Bavarian
11.77708368 North_Swedish
13.90013669 French
14.00709820 Austria-Burgenland
14.87036651 East_German
15.15480452 Aland_Sweden

Distance to: CreodaDad
3.47889350 West_Scottish
4.07015970 Irish
4.39600955 Scotland
5.19309156 England
5.30323486 North_Dutch
5.52201050 Dutch
5.53650612 Southeast_English
6.07638050 Orcadian
6.45900921 Danish
6.93729774 North_German
7.33559132 Southwest_English
7.79955127 Norway
7.88182086 Swedish
8.39184723 Norwegian
8.71631803 North_Swedish
8.99247463 West_Norwegian
10.42032629 Belgium
11.28809550 South_Dutch
12.01959650 North_Swedish
13.37866959 West_German
13.65449743 German_Bavarian
13.95304626 Aland_Sweden
16.46573412 East_German
16.46729486 Austria-Burgenland
16.81969084 French



Target: Creoda
Distance: 4.2246% / 4.22457780
61.2 West_Scottish
31.0 Scotland
6.8 French_Basque
1.0 Mari

Target: CreodaMum
Distance: 2.2241% / 2.22408648
50.2 England
34.2 West_Norwegian
8.2 Orcadian
3.2 Kalash
1.4 French_Basque
1.2 Sardinian
1.0 Tabassaran
0.6 Chuvash

Target: CreodaDad
Distance: 2.5785% / 2.57848214
84.2 West_Scottish
15.0 Aland_Sweden
0.8 French_Basque

nittionia
12-22-2019, 01:05 AM
puntdnal k15.. so much basque for what?
https://i.imgur.com/7gDxUN7.png

Rćdwald
12-22-2019, 01:12 AM
puntdnal k15.. so much basque for what?
https://i.imgur.com/7gDxUN7.png

Change your "add distance column" to 0.25X

nittionia
12-22-2019, 01:15 AM
Change your "add distance column" to 0.25X

ok i feel better
https://i.imgur.com/jf629VM.png

Rćdwald
12-22-2019, 01:28 AM
K15 Ancient


Target: LePrieur

Distance: 1.4746% / 1.47462046

14.2 AngloSaxon_NO3423
8.8 MigrationPeriod_DA119
8.6 AngloSaxon_NO3423
7.6 AngloSaxon_NO3423
7.4 BeakerNorthItaly_I2478
7.2 BronzeAgeOrkneyIslander_I2981
6.6 BeakerNorthItaly_I2478
4.4 MigrationPeriod_DA119
3.2 CheddarMan
3.0 BeakerNorthItaly_I2478
2.8 BronzeAgeOrkneyIslander_I2981
2.8 MigrationPeriod_DA119
2.8 NE1_Starcevo(Hungary)
2.6 BronzeAgeOrkneyIslander_I2981
2.2 HallstattCelt_DA111
2.2 Srubnaya_I0423
2.0 Atacama
1.6 NE1_Starcevo(Hungary)
1.2 CheddarMan
1.2 Malta
1.0 CheddarMan
1.0 NE1_Starcevo(Hungary)
0.8 Atacama
0.8 Hoabinhian_LA368
0.6 Malta
0.6 Atacama
0.4 HallstattCelt_DA111
0.4 Srubnaya_I0423
0.4 HallstattCelt_DA111
0.4 GoyetQ116_1
0.4 Hoabinhian_LA368
0.4 Malta
0.2 Hoabinhian_LA368
0.2 Srubnaya_I0423

Dick
12-22-2019, 01:38 AM
Okay. Well then its weird that Nurzat posted him.

It’s probably nurzat

Daos777
12-22-2019, 01:41 AM
K15 ancient

Target: Daos
Distance: 0.8284% / 0.8284420

37.8NorthNorwegianHunterGatherer_STG001
14.8MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
12.8Sunghir6
11.4MakoCultureHungary_BR1
10.6Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
7.4WC1_Iran
2.4AnatolianEF_I0707
1.0ChalcolithicIranian
0.6Hoabinhian_LA368
0.4Beringian_USR1
0.4Sholpan(CentralSteppe_EMBA)
0.4UkrainianNeolithicFarmer_I1926



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Cumansky
12-22-2019, 03:27 AM
Target: Cumansky_FatherK15
Distance: 0.3570% / 0.35697572
23.6 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
11.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
10.2 NorthNorwegianHunterGatherer_STG001
8.8 NorthNorwegianHunterGatherer_STG001
8.2 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
6.6 NorthNorwegianHunterGatherer_STG001
5.4 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
4.2 Sunghir6
3.4 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
3.0 Loschbour
2.6 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
2.0 Sunghir6
2.0 Sunghir6
1.8 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
1.4 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
1.4 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
1.2 Loschbour
0.8 Loschbour
0.4 ArmenianEBA_I1633
0.4 Kura_Araxes
0.4 XiongNu_DA43
0.2 ChalcolithicIranian
0.2 ChalcolithicIranian

Cumansky
12-22-2019, 03:28 AM
Target: Cumansky_MotherK15
Distance: 5.4777% / 5.47771163
24.8 Sunghir6
18.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
11.4 Sunghir6
11.0 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
10.6 Sunghir6
9.6 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
2.6 JordanEBA_I1730
2.6 LevantPPNB_I0867
2.0 JordanEBA_I1730
1.6 Yoruba00920
1.4 LevantPPNB_I0867
1.2 Loschbour
0.8 JordanEBA_I1730
0.6 Loschbour
0.6 Yoruba00920
0.4 LevantPPNB_I0867
0.2 Yoruba00920
0.2 Loschbour

**JC**
12-22-2019, 08:54 AM
K15 Ancient

Target: JC
Distance: 0.3021% / 0.30206024
31.6 Celt_Hinxton1
15.6 CheddarMan
14.6 BronzeAgeEngland_I2462
9.0 MalakPreslavets_I0700
8.2 Srubnaya_I0430
6.4 BeakerNorthItaly_I2478
2.6 Loschbour
2.2 SpaintheChalcolithic_I1300
1.8 Kostenki14
1.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
1.6 Atacama
1.2 MBA_Portugal_MG104
1.0 Srubnaya_I0232
0.6 Srubnaya_I0423
0.4 BronzAgeBulgarian
0.4 GoyetQ116_1
0.4 Malta
0.2 AboriginalAustralian
0.2 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
0.2 Motala_12(Sweden)

Mingle
12-22-2019, 09:04 AM
Eurogenes K15 Ancient

Distance to: Mingle
27.74053713 EarlyNeolithicIran_I1290
27.74053713 EarlyNeolithicIran_I1290
27.74053713 EarlyNeolithicIran_I1290
27.74053713 EarlyNeolithicIran_I1290
27.78836987 WC1_Iran
27.78836987 WC1_Iran
27.78836987 WC1_Iran
27.78836987 WC1_Iran
31.35343203 Wusun
31.35343203 Wusun
31.35343203 Wusun
31.35343203 Wusun
33.70738050 Turkmenistan_IA
33.70738050 Turkmenistan_IA
33.70738050 Turkmenistan_IA
33.70738050 Turkmenistan_IA
34.93005439 Alan_DA243
34.93005439 Alan_DA243
34.93005439 Alan_DA243
34.93005439 Alan_DA243
34.99590119 Kipchak_DA179
34.99590119 Kipchak_DA179
34.99590119 Kipchak_DA179
34.99590119 Kipchak_DA179
35.73630367 Kangju_DA125

Target: Mingle
Distance: 12.1083% / 12.10832058
53.6 EarlyNeolithicIran_I1290
19.4 Hoabinhian_LA368
17.0 Malta
9.4 Turkmenistan_IA
0.4 BronzeAgeOuterHebrides_I2655

Dušan
12-22-2019, 09:07 AM
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/



I see you update K15 with Bosnian Serb and South Serb component.


Serbian,18.84,17.28,15.16,12.76,11.74,8.44,12.18,2 .60,0.34,0.15,0.16,0.02,0.13,0.15,0.05
Serbian_Bosnia,18.2325,15.56,20.425,13.7875,11.847 5,6.7525,11.0875,1.385,0.17,0.2375,0.08,0.085,0.29 75,0.04,0.01
South_Serbian,17.53,16.17,15.54,11.30,13.19,10.26, 13.26,1.49,0.07,0.04,0.04,0.42,0.28,0.10,0.29



I added them on pca K15.

https://i.imgur.com/IXthn9x.jpg

Red sign is my position. Little bit northern than Bosnian Serb average, and almost same eastern like southern Serb average.

Dušan
12-22-2019, 09:11 AM
Eurogenes K15 Ancient

Distance to: Mingle
27.74053713 EarlyNeolithicIran_I1290
27.74053713 EarlyNeolithicIran_I1290
27.74053713 EarlyNeolithicIran_I1290
27.74053713 EarlyNeolithicIran_I1290
27.78836987 WC1_Iran
27.78836987 WC1_Iran
27.78836987 WC1_Iran
27.78836987 WC1_Iran
31.35343203 Wusun
31.35343203 Wusun
31.35343203 Wusun
31.35343203 Wusun
33.70738050 Turkmenistan_IA
33.70738050 Turkmenistan_IA
33.70738050 Turkmenistan_IA
33.70738050 Turkmenistan_IA
34.93005439 Alan_DA243
34.93005439 Alan_DA243
34.93005439 Alan_DA243
34.93005439 Alan_DA243
34.99590119 Kipchak_DA179
34.99590119 Kipchak_DA179
34.99590119 Kipchak_DA179
34.99590119 Kipchak_DA179
35.73630367 Kangju_DA125

Target: Mingle
Distance: 12.1083% / 12.10832058
27.8 EarlyNeolithicIran_I1290
13.0 EarlyNeolithicIran_I1290
12.8 EarlyNeolithicIran_I1290
12.0 Hoabinhian_LA368
10.2 Malta
5.2 Hoabinhian_LA368
4.8 Malta
3.6 Turkmenistan_IA
3.0 Turkmenistan_IA
2.8 Turkmenistan_IA
2.4 Hoabinhian_LA368
2.0 Malta
0.2 BronzeAgeOuterHebrides_I2655
0.2 BronzeAgeOuterHebrides_I2655

Very high distance. Why is like that?

Mingle
12-22-2019, 09:15 AM
Very high distance. Why is like that?

The calculator doesn't have any Bronze Age or Iron Age samples from my region.

ksha
12-22-2019, 11:15 AM
k15

https://i.ibb.co/HBthNc3/screenshot-vahaduo-genetics-ovh-2019-12-22-13-11-15-k15.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Luke35
12-22-2019, 01:04 PM
k15

What do you get when you adjust the Add Dist Col to .25x?

Zoro
12-22-2019, 01:42 PM
The K15 ancient source sheet is very dirty and has a ton of duplicates of the same sample and sometimes the same sample is named under 2 names. I found that out because the results under the 2 names exactly matched. For example Kurdistan-Medieval and Latemedieval is the same sample.

Anyways I took an hour to clean it up and remove all the duplicates and average out the remainder and got this much cleaner sheet which you can use. if you re-run you will get results that make more sense:

AboriginalAustralian,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.02,0.02 ,0.02,0.02,14.79,11.00,4.70,0.02,66.01,3.50,0.01
Afanasievo,31.70,1.74,15.85,31.07,0.01,16.11,0.01, 0.01,1.14,0.01,0.01,2.42,0.01,0.01,0.01
Ajvide58(Sweden),38.82,18.70,24.51,17.63,0.01,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,2.12,0.01,0.01,1.22
Alan,10.58,9.41,8.19,13.65,3.05,42.24,8.61,0.28,2. 74,0.01,0.01,1.25,0.01,0.01,0.01
AltaiDenisovan,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01, 0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.74,16.76,81.46
AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic,0.01,16.49,0.01,0.01,34.02, 8.15,38.67,2.67,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Anatolian_HG,5.07,18.82,0.86,0.00,46.28,0.00,24.06 ,4.92,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
AnatolianEF,0.01,14.32,0.32,0.01,45.32,0.01,34.44, 5.63,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Andronovo,30.82,22.45,11.29,22.56,0.01,9.02,0.01,0 .01,2.21,0.01,0.48,0.83,0.01,0.01,0.37
AngloSaxon,46.64,23.09,10.51,12.45,2.93,2.18,0.01, 0.25,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.19,0.78,0.98
ArmeniaCA,11.58,6.99,8.20,9.32,4.59,34.27,22.21,2. 84,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
ArmeniaMBA,10.07,13.68,4.30,5.58,0.01,40.71,19.74, 0.85,1.84,0.01,0.01,0.41,1.29,0.01,0.01
ArmenianChalcolithic,6.70,11.67,2.57,5.67,10.27,34 .66,26.62,1.83,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
ArmenianEBA,4.80,2.37,2.67,3.74,2.70,53.90,27.49,1 .42,0.94,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Atacama,9.74,13.87,1.40,2.79,11.82,2.64,4.92,2.83, 0.01,0.27,0.17,48.89,0.37,0.01,0.31
Baikal_Neolithic,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.51,0.01,0.01,0.0 1,0.01,0.01,27.33,66.45,5.71,0.01,0.01,0.01
Bavaria,22.46,15.32,7.21,6.02,15.56,15.13,12.84,0. 01,2.50,0.01,1.60,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
BeakerBritain,27.10,29.52,16.68,13.49,1.66,7.07,0. 01,0.01,2.78,0.01,0.01,1.38,0.01,0.01,0.31
BeakerNorthItaly,11.82,37.01,3.86,0.01,38.77,0.01, 6.97,1.59,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Beringian,0.01,0.01,0.97,9.10,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01, 4.32,9.67,23.91,48.35,2.51,0.01,1.17
Biaka00448,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,20.02,79.98
Boncuklu002,5.92,18.81,1.95,0.01,39.45,0.01,27.65, 4.67,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.09,0.01,0.46
Bot15,1.70,0.01,2.61,1.18,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.65 ,71.26,0.01,0.01,22.61,0.01,0.01
Bot17,0.17,0.50,0.94,1.03,0.15,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.19 ,72.68,0.01,1.35,22.99,0.01,0.01
Botai,11.00,0.01,4.44,42.52,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,10 .04,0.01,9.36,22.63,0.01,0.01,0.01
BR2,22.93,25.69,15.34,10.93,15.58,0.01,7.21,1.95,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.17,0.01,0.20
BronzAgeBalkan,18.38,29.13,6.34,3.81,19.31,8.49,11 .43,3.12,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
BronzAgeBulgarian,35.52,13.45,13.65,19.23,0.01,12. 95,0.01,0.01,3.15,0.01,0.01,2.05,0.01,0.01,0.01
BronzAgeSilesian,36.41,18.90,13.92,20.64,0.00,8.95 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.60,0.55,0.00,0.00
BronzeAgeDalmatian,21.86,20.55,7.11,4.04,24.93,7.7 6,13.75,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
BronzeAgeEngland,28.27,31.41,9.08,6.66,21.28,0.79, 0.06,1.37,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.07,0.01,0.01,0.01
BronzeAgeNetherlands,37.02,25.45,10.73,13.90,4.58, 7.12,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.21,0.01,0.01,0.01
BronzeAgeOrkneyIslander,35.56,29.63,10.51,11.88,5. 66,2.61,1.16,0.41,1.66,0.01,0.01,0.72,0.21,0.01,0. 01
BronzeAgeOuterHebrides,32.13,36.47,10.20,12.69,5.4 9,2.67,0.01,0.22,0.14,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.0 1
BronzeAgeSteppe,16.34,5.51,8.85,22.67,0.01,3.88,0. 01,0.01,6.81,0.62,27.97,7.36,0.01,0.01,0.01
Canaanite,1.18,5.59,0.01,0.01,12.87,14.79,48.70,16 .89,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
CentralSaka,16.13,4.88,10.02,21.13,0.01,9.58,0.01, 0.01,0.62,5.29,25.36,7.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
ChalcolithicAgeAnatolian,6.51,11.23,0.01,0.01,24.0 3,26.19,32.05,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0 .01
ChalcolithicIranian,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,55.86 ,36.08,0.60,7.46,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
CheddarMan,36.94,25.01,31.25,6.68,0.01,0.01,0.01,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.12,0.01,0.01
Cimmerian,38.37,22.51,13.42,15.11,0.01,7.84,0.01,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.40,0.01,0.01,2.34
CopperAgeIran,1.51,0.64,0.01,0.78,6.96,38.71,38.99 ,6.46,4.54,0.01,0.25,0.01,0.44,0.01,0.78
CopperAgeNorthAfrican,0.01,10.17,0.01,0.01,29.97,0 .01,17.33,18.76,0.01,0.01,0.14,0.01,0.01,18.17,5.4 5
CovachadelAngel,6.93,44.78,9.90,0.01,38.39,0.01,0. 01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Crimean,11.57,14.99,3.15,3.46,8.46,27.53,25.61,3.0 2,0.01,0.01,0.72,1.48,0.01,0.01,0.01
EarlyBA,32.52,19.24,23.49,16.43,0.01,8.04,0.01,0.0 1,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.28,0.01,0.01,0.01
EarlyCzechSlav,27.56,23.42,27.10,10.38,10.89,0.65, 0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
EarlyNeolithicIran,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,51.51, 17.50,0.01,24.75,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,6.25
EMBA,23.44,22.42,4.91,1.65,22.65,8.93,15.28,0.72,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
ENAMorocco,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,22.16,0.01,4.76,27. 64,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,34.68,10.75
EsperstedtMN,12.78,23.47,1.78,0.01,46.22,0.01,14.1 9,1.56,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Gabi,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,55.27,30.32,0.01,12. 03,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,2.36
Gokhem2(Sweden),16.75,27.68,3.73,0.01,45.25,0.01,4 .73,0.87,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.00,0.01,0.01
Gokturk,15.00,12.17,7.16,17.23,2.01,9.37,0.54,0.01 ,0.22,12.59,21.88,0.34,0.01,0.01,1.54
GoldenHorde,0.01,0.01,0.16,2.19,1.12,0.89,0.01,0.0 1,0.01,24.41,69.06,2.16,0.01,0.01,0.01
GoyetQ116,19.89,17.00,8.91,8.05,10.76,0.01,0.01,1. 10,16.97,4.85,1.20,1.91,4.95,0.98,3.44
GreekNeolithicKleitos,1.14,15.66,0.01,0.01,41.90,0 .01,34.59,5.65,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.06
GreekNeolithicRevenia,0.01,20.78,0.01,0.01,38.73,0 .01,28.80,5.68,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.14,0.01,4.88
Guanche,4.91,14.67,0.05,0.01,26.87,0.01,18.86,16.5 0,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.10,7.32,10.77
HallstattCelt,28.46,28.85,16.15,6.08,15.20,1.01,2. 39,0.45,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.84,0.52,0.01,0.01
Han,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,8 7.65,11.30,0.95,0.10,0.01,0.01
Hinxton_Celt,40.80,27.39,6.38,12.74,6.78,4.19,0.01 ,1.40,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.32,0.01
Hoabinhian,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.68,2.95,0.01,0.01,0.30 ,46.06,24.18,6.16,0.01,11.16,3.10,5.41
Hun_DA177,0.01,1.01,0.01,3.45,0.01,1.58,0.01,0.01, 0.01,28.90,62.36,2.66,0.01,0.01,0.01
Iberia,4.94,38.80,0.01,0.01,56.23,0.01,0.01,0.01,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
IberiaChalcolithic,6.74,40.16,0.01,0.01,53.10,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
IberiaMBA,17.71,44.44,0.50,0.01,37.36,0.01,0.01,0. 01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Iran_N_WC1,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,49.07,21.14,0. 01,24.34,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,5.45
IronAgeBalkan,15.14,12.54,3.65,0.01,28.65,9.66,26. 64,3.72,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Jomon,0.01,2.67,0.01,0.01,2.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,22.2 9,45.32,15.73,2.71,5.77,1.09,2.42
JordanEBA,0.01,1.51,0.01,0.01,10.26,5.17,57.14,25. 94,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Kabardinka,19.13,7.05,5.78,22.04,0.01,40.11,0.01,0 .01,4.80,0.01,0.01,1.09,0.01,0.01,0.01
Kangju,26.08,6.17,4.96,19.27,0.01,16.49,1.77,0.01, 12.94,0.01,6.39,1.35,0.43,1.45,2.69
Karakhanid,12.94,9.16,2.12,14.93,0.01,13.21,0.01,0 .01,4.69,11.90,27.32,3.73,0.01,0.01,0.01
KaramanKalehoyuk,0.01,12.06,0.01,0.01,23.11,22.50, 39.57,2.77,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Karluk,2.56,18.47,1.55,10.40,0.01,19.22,2.74,0.01, 4.44,15.29,24.49,0.85,0.01,0.01,0.01
KennewickMan,2.80,7.20,0.52,6.58,0.01,0.01,0.01,0. 01,0.01,0.15,10.06,68.91,0.01,0.01,3.78
Kimak,8.83,6.39,4.04,14.44,0.01,12.29,1.44,0.01,6. 74,12.00,30.18,2.84,0.01,0.06,0.75
Kipchak,8.56,7.46,5.65,13.30,0.84,18.67,14.68,2.74 ,7.63,11.98,8.30,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.17
KokMardan,28.65,8.21,5.13,18.54,0.01,25.97,0.01,0. 01,4.36,0.01,7.43,1.61,0.01,0.01,0.11
Kostenki14,18.82,12.35,6.50,9.70,9.79,0.01,0.01,5. 72,17.41,1.35,0.65,4.74,5.11,5.18,2.66
Kotias,0.01,0.01,2.88,2.01,0.01,84.57,0.01,0.01,7. 36,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,3.28
Kotias2,0.01,0.01,2.83,2.20,0.01,83.78,0.01,0.01,7 .94,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,3.24
Kura,6.95,3.96,1.08,0.38,5.65,53.26,28.72,0.01,0.0 1,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Kurdistan_IA,5.62,0.01,0.01,7.20,6.62,42.44,30.22, 6.41,1.48,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Kurdistan_Medieval,2.02,2.93,4.33,9.65,0.01,36.12, 33.69,5.98,5.29,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
KurdistanChalcolithic,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.00,1.01,51. 12,42.49,4.02,0.39,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
KurmaEBA,0.01,2.05,0.33,14.48,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01, 0.01,10.75,62.61,9.38,0.41,0.01,0.01
LaBrana(Spain),29.33,30.25,28.14,11.87,0.01,0.01,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.40,0.01,0.01
LateBronzeAgeScotland,30.03,34.51,10.69,12.64,8.84 ,3.29,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
LateNeolithicBronzeAgeLaos,0.01,0.01,1.47,0.01,0.0 1,0.01,0.01,0.01,12.75,80.58,0.01,0.01,2.99,1.46,0 .75
LateNeolithicMorocco,0.01,13.06,0.01,0.01,43.78,0. 01,19.43,14.61,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,8.22,0.87
LevantPPNB,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,25.14,0.01,47.75,20 .95,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,6.16,0.01
LorgadeDine,5.89,36.39,0.41,0.01,51.04,0.01,4.35,1 .91,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Loschbour,34.49,23.88,33.47,7.35,0.01,0.01,0.01,0. 01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.81,0.01,0.01
MakoCultureHungary,24.43,27.92,25.18,2.93,19.53,0. 01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
MalakPreslavets,27.85,21.36,16.25,0.01,34.54,0.01, 0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Malta,15.92,0.01,6.54,38.03,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,20 .29,0.01,0.01,18.62,0.11,0.01,0.47
Mbuti,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,29.50,70.50
MedievalHungarian,27.86,18.95,13.10,5.05,17.94,6.5 8,8.18,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.43,0.01,0.90,0.01,0.01
MedievalNomad,11.58,10.29,6.68,16.03,0.01,12.97,4. 58,0.01,1.50,9.34,24.94,1.85,0.01,0.01,0.28
MENA,0.01,4.09,0.01,0.01,11.24,10.98,46.15,20.98,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,6.55,0.01
MesolithicNeolithicSerbia,36.98,13.40,33.42,16.01, 0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.19,0.01, 0.01
MezhovskayaLBA,40.28,10.86,11.54,20.91,0.01,3.16,0 .01,0.01,5.10,0.01,6.21,1.95,0.01,0.01,0.01
MigrationPeriod,40.10,21.12,14.48,8.83,12.50,1.27, 1.66,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Minoan,0.74,12.62,0.01,0.01,34.08,10.80,38.26,3.40 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.10,0.01,0.01
Mota1,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.82,0.37,79.08,19.73
Motala,39.23,6.82,28.88,25.08,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01, 0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Mycenaean,8.22,12.42,0.34,0.42,27.27,13.17,32.70,4 .26,0.01,0.06,0.46,0.28,0.24,0.23,0.01
Namazga,0.01,0.01,0.01,9.33,0.01,60.68,18.32,0.01, 11.13,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.54
NeolithicGACFarmer,17.70,26.87,7.97,0.01,42.29,0.0 1,5.17,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
NeolithicIreland,8.66,32.65,2.85,0.01,43.20,0.01,6 .82,3.23,0.01,0.43,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.36,0.80
NeolithicOrkneyIslander,10.12,30.24,0.01,0.01,49.2 0,0.01,7.99,2.44,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.0 1
NeolithicScotland,11.56,30.39,0.17,0.01,45.70,0.01 ,8.36,3.16,0.01,0.11,0.01,0.01,0.19,0.03,0.01
NeolithicUkraine,33.45,7.35,25.71,28.63,0.01,0.01, 0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,4.87,0.01,0.01,0.01
NorthItalian,28.90,16.33,0.01,3.93,30.37,5.48,12.7 6,0.69,1.13,0.28,0.01,0.06,0.06,0.01,0.01
NorthNorwegianHunterGatherer,34.27,0.07,31.01,30.3 4,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,4.31,0.01,0.0 1,0.01
Oase1_Carpathian,11.94,10.68,6.67,0.01,5.06,0.01,0 .01,0.01,27.73,7.48,0.01,0.01,9.23,5.68,15.54
Okunevo,8.72,0.01,4.75,31.82,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,8 .17,0.01,30.10,16.42,0.01,0.01,0.01
OkunevoBA,11.17,9.94,6.02,31.73,0.01,0.19,0.01,0.0 1,4.64,0.01,23.51,12.30,0.51,0.01,0.01
Ostuni1,16.67,23.82,20.88,6.67,14.71,0.01,0.01,0.0 1,4.86,0.01,0.01,1.26,3.97,0.72,6.43
Ottoman,5.17,7.88,4.11,11.72,2.69,20.90,11.11,1.08 ,3.29,7.93,22.75,0.54,0.04,0.86,0.01
Ovaören,0.01,12.70,0.01,0.01,28.18,15.50,39.62,4.0 1,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
PaleoEskimo,1.33,0.01,2.26,11.43,0.01,0.01,0.01,0. 01,4.46,12.96,50.58,11.02,0.01,0.01,5.96
PolishBellBeaker,34.22,24.82,6.93,13.05,5.62,13.92 ,0.01,0.01,0.59,0.01,0.72,0.08,0.01,0.01,0.01
Poltavka,33.52,13.36,15.51,24.69,0.01,10.44,0.01,0 .01,1.55,0.01,0.01,0.96,0.01,0.01,0.01
Portugal_MBA,19.64,39.16,0.88,0.01,39.95,0.01,0.29 ,0.09,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Potapovka,37.55,26.27,14.26,17.76,0.01,4.16,0.01,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Pre,9.03,34.34,0.01,0.01,56.65,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Przeclawice,39.23,27.37,10.83,14.89,1.75,5.55,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.13,0.01,0.25
R1aM417,36.63,13.19,12.16,25.56,0.01,9.62,0.01,0.0 1,1.71,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.12,0.01,0.01
RemedelloCulture,3.16,37.50,1.28,0.01,55.08,0.01,2 .99,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
RomanSoldier,24.37,31.26,6.65,3.16,28.57,1.28,3.41 ,1.31,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
SanBushman,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.09,36.40,63.51
Sarmatian,25.34,6.18,13.39,16.69,0.01,17.73,0.01,0 .01,9.21,0.01,5.92,2.55,0.01,0.01,0.01
SatsurbliaCHG,4.44,0.01,2.35,4.66,0.01,80.86,0.01, 0.01,1.63,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,6.05
Scythian_IO247,23.55,11.71,11.76,17.22,0.01,16.20, 0.01,0.01,6.77,1.57,6.84,3.70,0.01,0.15,0.54
Scythian_SaryBel,15.81,0.15,6.04,26.32,0.01,14.14, 0.01,0.01,5.00,3.46,21.37,6.22,0.01,0.01,1.49
Scythian_Scy311,26.14,24.65,6.95,9.03,15.40,9.48,7 .47,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.88
Scythian_Verh_Rise600,13.92,2.34,6.92,25.16,0.01,1 2.77,0.01,0.01,5.92,6.26,22.31,4.29,0.01,0.01,0.08
ScythianAldy,12.03,7.79,10.47,24.29,0.01,9.97,0.01 ,0.01,6.39,4.66,18.50,5.86,0.01,0.01,0.01
ScythianMoldova,15.33,28.84,6.92,1.71,25.83,6.48,1 4.18,0.74,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
ScythianPazyryk,8.51,0.01,4.46,18.37,0.01,8.40,0.0 1,0.01,5.82,12.57,33.79,6.55,1.48,0.01,0.01
ShamankaEBA,1.66,0.01,0.01,9.66,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.0 1,0.01,13.25,65.20,10.06,0.17,0.01,0.01
SharakhalsunSteppeMaykop,13.63,0.01,9.08,41.90,0.0 1,13.91,0.01,0.01,9.79,0.01,0.01,11.69,0.01,0.01,0 .01
Sholpan(CentralSteppe,5.17,0.01,6.65,30.29,0.01,0. 01,0.01,0.01,12.89,0.01,25.21,19.79,0.01,0.01,0.01
SimadelAngel,0.43,42.39,0.40,0.01,52.94,0.01,2.46, 1.38,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Sintashta,38.39,23.12,13.77,17.27,0.01,6.39,0.01,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.08
SouthFrenchBellBeaker,36.03,26.16,9.60,10.12,14.62 ,3.44,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
SpaintheChalcolithic,11.88,32.74,0.01,0.01,53.76,0 .01,0.01,1.62,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Srubnaya,37.82,20.75,18.82,17.63,0.12,7.09,0.01,0. 01,1.06,0.01,0.01,0.07,0.01,0.01,0.01
Starcevo(Hungary),1.99,20.82,2.37,0.01,39.84,0.01, 30.99,3.98,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
SteppeEBA2,6.89,0.01,6.45,28.83,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.0 1,13.78,0.01,24.93,18.82,0.30,0.01,0.01
Stuttgart_N,4.32,16.09,0.01,0.01,47.18,0.01,27.40, 5.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Sunghir6,18.96,15.20,28.11,23.84,8.77,3.46,0.90,0. 01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.66,0.10,0.01,0.01
Taforalt1,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,13.10,0.01,8.25,26.2 6,0.01,3.31,0.01,2.15,2.63,35.61,8.69
Taforalt2,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,13.57,0.01,8.49,26.5 2,0.01,1.29,1.33,2.69,1.79,35.82,8.52
Tagar,25.05,17.27,9.69,27.23,0.01,8.65,0.01,0.01,0 .01,0.01,7.48,4.63,0.01,0.01,0.01
TianShanHun,15.40,16.03,7.10,19.67,0.01,17.81,0.01 ,0.01,8.60,0.01,11.54,3.85,0.01,0.01,0.01
TianShanSaka,21.75,6.40,8.51,16.97,0.01,13.61,0.01 ,0.01,5.68,3.98,18.14,4.97,0.01,0.01,0.01
Tianyuan,0.08,2.43,0.14,1.46,2.19,0.01,0.01,0.01,3 0.08,28.99,11.12,3.01,11.08,3.68,5.75
TurkicDA93,12.09,3.31,1.15,22.42,0.01,8.20,0.01,0. 01,0.69,9.90,37.08,5.17,0.01,0.01,0.01
Turkmenistan,22.82,4.63,5.49,19.61,0.01,38.39,0.72 ,0.01,8.35,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
UkrainianNeolithicFarmer,14.48,14.66,8.30,0.01,39. 62,0.01,18.34,4.00,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.60,0.01,0 .01
UlanIVYamnaya,30.97,0.01,12.10,28.81,0.01,21.90,0. 01,0.01,4.51,0.01,0.01,1.72,0.01,0.01,0.01
UneticeBellBeaker,30.97,31.78,11.71,7.87,13.87,3.8 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Ust_Ida_LN,0.01,0.01,0.01,12.52,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.0 1,1.69,10.79,59.05,15.26,0.69,0.01,0.01
Vucedol,16.74,25.55,3.48,2.41,22.95,14.60,11.36,2. 79,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.13,0.00,0.00
Wusun,12.93,7.47,8.85,22.45,0.01,26.14,0.01,0.01,1 0.40,0.01,7.66,4.10,0.01,0.01,0.01
XiongNu,1.01,0.91,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.82,0. 01,72.77,23.12,0.47,0.17,0.01,0.78
Yamnaya,31.82,1.72,11.87,30.39,0.01,18.88,0.01,0.0 1,3.14,0.01,0.01,2.21,0.01,0.01,0.01
YamnayaKaragash,32.36,0.43,11.39,25.09,0.01,20.21, 0.01,0.01,5.79,0.01,0.01,4.74,0.01,0.01,0.01
Yoruba,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.20,0.01,0.3 2,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,99.48

Moje ime
12-22-2019, 03:14 PM
Eurogenes K15 Ancient

Distance to: MI
14.83995957 MedievalHungarian_DA199
14.83995957 MedievalHungarian_DA199
14.83995957 MedievalHungarian_DA199
14.83995957 MedievalHungarian_DA199
15.28729865 BR2_Hungary
15.28729865 BR2_Hungary
15.28729865 BR2_Hungary
15.28729865 BR2_Hungary
15.29338092 Bavaria_STR310
15.29338092 Bavaria_STR310
15.29338092 Bavaria_STR310
15.29338092 Bavaria_STR310
16.34019584 Scythian_SCY311
16.34019584 Scythian_SCY311
16.34019584 Scythian_SCY311
16.34019584 Scythian_SCY311
18.38173822 HallstattCelt_DA112
18.38173822 HallstattCelt_DA112
18.38173822 HallstattCelt_DA112
18.38173822 HallstattCelt_DA112
19.38926765 BronzAgeBalkan
19.38926765 BronzAgeBalkan
19.38926765 BronzAgeBalkan
19.38926765 BronzAgeBalkan
19.85005038 Ostuni1

Moje ime
12-22-2019, 03:18 PM
Eurogenes K15 updated spreadsheet

Distance to: MI
4.08105072 Szekely
6.22233075 Romania_Ne
6.41254240 Serbian
6.54964885 South_Serbian
6.84413618 Romanian
7.02315456 Bosniak
7.23952346 Romania_Sw
7.37040406 Bosnian
7.58259890 Montenegrin
7.73078263 Romania_Nw
7.77705399 Serbian_Bosnia
8.45558637 Macedonian
8.52865171 Romania_South
8.68724352 Austrian
9.00995390 Slovenian
9.37236363 Hungarian
9.87002026 Bulgarian
10.26807187 Croatian
10.34157145 Moldavian
10.35639838 Croat_Bosnia
10.45183716 Kaykavian_Croatian
10.78129862 Romania_Se
12.24128670 Austria-Tyrol
12.33169494 Austria-Burgenland
12.41122879 Czech

ksha
12-22-2019, 04:14 PM
What do you get when you adjust the Add Dist Col to .25x?

this

https://i.ibb.co/0MwxgN8/screenshot-vahaduo-genetics-ovh-2019-12-22-18-11-29-anc-k15.png (https://imgbb.com/)

WeirdLookingFellow
12-22-2019, 04:49 PM
Updated K15


Target: FellowGF
Distance: 4.0033% / 4.00334302 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 Bosniak
34.6 Bulgarian_Thracian
8.2 French_Basque
5.0 Greek
3.2 Chuvash
1.0 Sardinian
0.8 Kabardin

Target: Fellow
Distance: 4.1015% / 4.10152011 | ADC: 0.25x
38.6 Serbian_Bosnia
35.4 Italy_Trentino
21.0 Bulgarian_Thracian
2.4 Lithuanian
2.2 Romania_Sw
0.4 Yoruban

Target: FellowGF
Distance: 2.6775% / 2.67753066
35.2 Bulgarian_Thracian
17.8 Southwest_Russian
12.8 French_Basque
10.2 Erzya
8.8 Turkish_Trabzon
8.6 Sardinian
6.6 Ukrainian_Belgorod

Target: Fellow
Distance: 3.0925% / 3.09248774
28.2 Lithuanian
27.6 Italy_Trentino
17.0 Italy_Lombardy
10.6 Cypriot
7.2 Bulgarian_Thracian
4.2 France_Corsica
1.8 Latvian
1.6 Sardinian
1.0 Yoruban
0.6 Karitiana
0.2 Evens

vbnetkhio
12-22-2019, 04:54 PM
Updated K15


Target: FellowGF
Distance: 4.0033% / 4.00334302 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 Bosniak
34.6 Bulgarian_Thracian
8.2 French_Basque
5.0 Greek
3.2 Chuvash
1.0 Sardinian
0.8 Kabardin

Target: Fellow
Distance: 4.1015% / 4.10152011 | ADC: 0.25x
38.6 Serbian_Bosnia
35.4 Italy_Trentino
21.0 Bulgarian_Thracian
2.4 Lithuanian
2.2 Romania_Sw
0.4 Yoruban

Target: FellowGF
Distance: 2.6775% / 2.67753066
35.2 Bulgarian_Thracian
17.8 Southwest_Russian
12.8 French_Basque
10.2 Erzya
8.8 Turkish_Trabzon
8.6 Sardinian
6.6 Ukrainian_Belgorod

Target: Fellow
Distance: 3.0925% / 3.09248774
28.2 Lithuanian
27.6 Italy_Trentino
17.0 Italy_Lombardy
10.6 Cypriot
7.2 Bulgarian_Thracian
4.2 France_Corsica
1.8 Latvian
1.6 Sardinian
1.0 Yoruban
0.6 Karitiana
0.2 Evens

you can add more dist cols, upt to 2. 1 and 2 are the most realistic for me

Cumansky
12-22-2019, 05:01 PM
K15 Ancient using Zoro update

Father: 93966
Mother: 93967

Thracian
12-22-2019, 05:06 PM
The K15 ancient source sheet is very dirty and has a ton of duplicates of the same sample and sometimes the same sample is named under 2 names. I found that out because the results under the 2 names exactly matched. For example Kurdistan-Medieval and Latemedieval is the same sample.

Anyways I took an hour to clean it up and remove all the duplicates and average out the remainder and got this much cleaner sheet which you can use. if you re-run you will get results that make more sense:

AboriginalAustralian,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.02,0.02 ,0.02,0.02,14.79,11.00,4.70,0.02,66.01,3.50,0.01
Afanasievo,31.70,1.74,15.85,31.07,0.01,16.11,0.01, 0.01,1.14,0.01,0.01,2.42,0.01,0.01,0.01
Ajvide58(Sweden),38.82,18.70,24.51,17.63,0.01,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,2.12,0.01,0.01,1.22
Alan,10.58,9.41,8.19,13.65,3.05,42.24,8.61,0.28,2. 74,0.01,0.01,1.25,0.01,0.01,0.01
AltaiDenisovan,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01, 0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.74,16.76,81.46
AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic,0.01,16.49,0.01,0.01,34.02, 8.15,38.67,2.67,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Anatolian_HG,5.07,18.82,0.86,0.00,46.28,0.00,24.06 ,4.92,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
AnatolianEF,0.01,14.32,0.32,0.01,45.32,0.01,34.44, 5.63,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Andronovo,30.82,22.45,11.29,22.56,0.01,9.02,0.01,0 .01,2.21,0.01,0.48,0.83,0.01,0.01,0.37
AngloSaxon,46.64,23.09,10.51,12.45,2.93,2.18,0.01, 0.25,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.19,0.78,0.98
ArmeniaCA,11.58,6.99,8.20,9.32,4.59,34.27,22.21,2. 84,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
ArmeniaMBA,10.07,13.68,4.30,5.58,0.01,40.71,19.74, 0.85,1.84,0.01,0.01,0.41,1.29,0.01,0.01
ArmenianChalcolithic,6.70,11.67,2.57,5.67,10.27,34 .66,26.62,1.83,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
ArmenianEBA,4.80,2.37,2.67,3.74,2.70,53.90,27.49,1 .42,0.94,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Atacama,9.74,13.87,1.40,2.79,11.82,2.64,4.92,2.83, 0.01,0.27,0.17,48.89,0.37,0.01,0.31
Baikal_Neolithic,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.51,0.01,0.01,0.0 1,0.01,0.01,27.33,66.45,5.71,0.01,0.01,0.01
Bavaria,22.46,15.32,7.21,6.02,15.56,15.13,12.84,0. 01,2.50,0.01,1.60,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
BeakerBritain,27.10,29.52,16.68,13.49,1.66,7.07,0. 01,0.01,2.78,0.01,0.01,1.38,0.01,0.01,0.31
BeakerNorthItaly,11.82,37.01,3.86,0.01,38.77,0.01, 6.97,1.59,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Beringian,0.01,0.01,0.97,9.10,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01, 4.32,9.67,23.91,48.35,2.51,0.01,1.17
Biaka00448,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,20.02,79.98
Boncuklu002,5.92,18.81,1.95,0.01,39.45,0.01,27.65, 4.67,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.09,0.01,0.46
Bot15,1.70,0.01,2.61,1.18,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.65 ,71.26,0.01,0.01,22.61,0.01,0.01
Bot17,0.17,0.50,0.94,1.03,0.15,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.19 ,72.68,0.01,1.35,22.99,0.01,0.01
Botai,11.00,0.01,4.44,42.52,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,10 .04,0.01,9.36,22.63,0.01,0.01,0.01
BR2,22.93,25.69,15.34,10.93,15.58,0.01,7.21,1.95,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.17,0.01,0.20
BronzAgeBalkan,18.38,29.13,6.34,3.81,19.31,8.49,11 .43,3.12,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
BronzAgeBulgarian,35.52,13.45,13.65,19.23,0.01,12. 95,0.01,0.01,3.15,0.01,0.01,2.05,0.01,0.01,0.01
BronzAgeSilesian,36.41,18.90,13.92,20.64,0.00,8.95 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.60,0.55,0.00,0.00
BronzeAgeDalmatian,21.86,20.55,7.11,4.04,24.93,7.7 6,13.75,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
BronzeAgeEngland,28.27,31.41,9.08,6.66,21.28,0.79, 0.06,1.37,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.07,0.01,0.01,0.01
BronzeAgeNetherlands,37.02,25.45,10.73,13.90,4.58, 7.12,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.21,0.01,0.01,0.01
BronzeAgeOrkneyIslander,35.56,29.63,10.51,11.88,5. 66,2.61,1.16,0.41,1.66,0.01,0.01,0.72,0.21,0.01,0. 01
BronzeAgeOuterHebrides,32.13,36.47,10.20,12.69,5.4 9,2.67,0.01,0.22,0.14,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.0 1
BronzeAgeSteppe,16.34,5.51,8.85,22.67,0.01,3.88,0. 01,0.01,6.81,0.62,27.97,7.36,0.01,0.01,0.01
Canaanite,1.18,5.59,0.01,0.01,12.87,14.79,48.70,16 .89,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
CentralSaka,16.13,4.88,10.02,21.13,0.01,9.58,0.01, 0.01,0.62,5.29,25.36,7.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
ChalcolithicAgeAnatolian,6.51,11.23,0.01,0.01,24.0 3,26.19,32.05,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0 .01
ChalcolithicIranian,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,55.86 ,36.08,0.60,7.46,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
CheddarMan,36.94,25.01,31.25,6.68,0.01,0.01,0.01,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.12,0.01,0.01
Cimmerian,38.37,22.51,13.42,15.11,0.01,7.84,0.01,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.40,0.01,0.01,2.34
CopperAgeIran,1.51,0.64,0.01,0.78,6.96,38.71,38.99 ,6.46,4.54,0.01,0.25,0.01,0.44,0.01,0.78
CopperAgeNorthAfrican,0.01,10.17,0.01,0.01,29.97,0 .01,17.33,18.76,0.01,0.01,0.14,0.01,0.01,18.17,5.4 5
CovachadelAngel,6.93,44.78,9.90,0.01,38.39,0.01,0. 01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Crimean,11.57,14.99,3.15,3.46,8.46,27.53,25.61,3.0 2,0.01,0.01,0.72,1.48,0.01,0.01,0.01
EarlyBA,32.52,19.24,23.49,16.43,0.01,8.04,0.01,0.0 1,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.28,0.01,0.01,0.01
EarlyCzechSlav,27.56,23.42,27.10,10.38,10.89,0.65, 0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
EarlyNeolithicIran,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,51.51, 17.50,0.01,24.75,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,6.25
EMBA,23.44,22.42,4.91,1.65,22.65,8.93,15.28,0.72,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
ENAMorocco,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,22.16,0.01,4.76,27. 64,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,34.68,10.75
EsperstedtMN,12.78,23.47,1.78,0.01,46.22,0.01,14.1 9,1.56,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Gabi,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,55.27,30.32,0.01,12. 03,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,2.36
Gokhem2(Sweden),16.75,27.68,3.73,0.01,45.25,0.01,4 .73,0.87,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.00,0.01,0.01
Gokturk,15.00,12.17,7.16,17.23,2.01,9.37,0.54,0.01 ,0.22,12.59,21.88,0.34,0.01,0.01,1.54
GoldenHorde,0.01,0.01,0.16,2.19,1.12,0.89,0.01,0.0 1,0.01,24.41,69.06,2.16,0.01,0.01,0.01
GoyetQ116,19.89,17.00,8.91,8.05,10.76,0.01,0.01,1. 10,16.97,4.85,1.20,1.91,4.95,0.98,3.44
GreekNeolithicKleitos,1.14,15.66,0.01,0.01,41.90,0 .01,34.59,5.65,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.06
GreekNeolithicRevenia,0.01,20.78,0.01,0.01,38.73,0 .01,28.80,5.68,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.14,0.01,4.88
Guanche,4.91,14.67,0.05,0.01,26.87,0.01,18.86,16.5 0,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.10,7.32,10.77
HallstattCelt,28.46,28.85,16.15,6.08,15.20,1.01,2. 39,0.45,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.84,0.52,0.01,0.01
Han,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,8 7.65,11.30,0.95,0.10,0.01,0.01
Hinxton_Celt,40.80,27.39,6.38,12.74,6.78,4.19,0.01 ,1.40,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.32,0.01
Hoabinhian,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.68,2.95,0.01,0.01,0.30 ,46.06,24.18,6.16,0.01,11.16,3.10,5.41
Hun_DA177,0.01,1.01,0.01,3.45,0.01,1.58,0.01,0.01, 0.01,28.90,62.36,2.66,0.01,0.01,0.01
Iberia,4.94,38.80,0.01,0.01,56.23,0.01,0.01,0.01,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
IberiaChalcolithic,6.74,40.16,0.01,0.01,53.10,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
IberiaMBA,17.71,44.44,0.50,0.01,37.36,0.01,0.01,0. 01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Iran_N_WC1,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,49.07,21.14,0. 01,24.34,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,5.45
IronAgeBalkan,15.14,12.54,3.65,0.01,28.65,9.66,26. 64,3.72,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Jomon,0.01,2.67,0.01,0.01,2.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,22.2 9,45.32,15.73,2.71,5.77,1.09,2.42
JordanEBA,0.01,1.51,0.01,0.01,10.26,5.17,57.14,25. 94,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Kabardinka,19.13,7.05,5.78,22.04,0.01,40.11,0.01,0 .01,4.80,0.01,0.01,1.09,0.01,0.01,0.01
Kangju,26.08,6.17,4.96,19.27,0.01,16.49,1.77,0.01, 12.94,0.01,6.39,1.35,0.43,1.45,2.69
Karakhanid,12.94,9.16,2.12,14.93,0.01,13.21,0.01,0 .01,4.69,11.90,27.32,3.73,0.01,0.01,0.01
KaramanKalehoyuk,0.01,12.06,0.01,0.01,23.11,22.50, 39.57,2.77,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Karluk,2.56,18.47,1.55,10.40,0.01,19.22,2.74,0.01, 4.44,15.29,24.49,0.85,0.01,0.01,0.01
KennewickMan,2.80,7.20,0.52,6.58,0.01,0.01,0.01,0. 01,0.01,0.15,10.06,68.91,0.01,0.01,3.78
Kimak,8.83,6.39,4.04,14.44,0.01,12.29,1.44,0.01,6. 74,12.00,30.18,2.84,0.01,0.06,0.75
Kipchak,8.56,7.46,5.65,13.30,0.84,18.67,14.68,2.74 ,7.63,11.98,8.30,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.17
KokMardan,28.65,8.21,5.13,18.54,0.01,25.97,0.01,0. 01,4.36,0.01,7.43,1.61,0.01,0.01,0.11
Kostenki14,18.82,12.35,6.50,9.70,9.79,0.01,0.01,5. 72,17.41,1.35,0.65,4.74,5.11,5.18,2.66
Kotias,0.01,0.01,2.88,2.01,0.01,84.57,0.01,0.01,7. 36,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,3.28
Kotias2,0.01,0.01,2.83,2.20,0.01,83.78,0.01,0.01,7 .94,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,3.24
Kura,6.95,3.96,1.08,0.38,5.65,53.26,28.72,0.01,0.0 1,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Kurdistan_IA,5.62,0.01,0.01,7.20,6.62,42.44,30.22, 6.41,1.48,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Kurdistan_Medieval,2.02,2.93,4.33,9.65,0.01,36.12, 33.69,5.98,5.29,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
KurdistanChalcolithic,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.00,1.01,51. 12,42.49,4.02,0.39,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
KurmaEBA,0.01,2.05,0.33,14.48,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01, 0.01,10.75,62.61,9.38,0.41,0.01,0.01
LaBrana(Spain),29.33,30.25,28.14,11.87,0.01,0.01,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.40,0.01,0.01
LateBronzeAgeScotland,30.03,34.51,10.69,12.64,8.84 ,3.29,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
LateNeolithicBronzeAgeLaos,0.01,0.01,1.47,0.01,0.0 1,0.01,0.01,0.01,12.75,80.58,0.01,0.01,2.99,1.46,0 .75
LateNeolithicMorocco,0.01,13.06,0.01,0.01,43.78,0. 01,19.43,14.61,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,8.22,0.87
LevantPPNB,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,25.14,0.01,47.75,20 .95,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,6.16,0.01
LorgadeDine,5.89,36.39,0.41,0.01,51.04,0.01,4.35,1 .91,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Loschbour,34.49,23.88,33.47,7.35,0.01,0.01,0.01,0. 01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.81,0.01,0.01
MakoCultureHungary,24.43,27.92,25.18,2.93,19.53,0. 01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
MalakPreslavets,27.85,21.36,16.25,0.01,34.54,0.01, 0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Malta,15.92,0.01,6.54,38.03,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,20 .29,0.01,0.01,18.62,0.11,0.01,0.47
Mbuti,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,29.50,70.50
MedievalHungarian,27.86,18.95,13.10,5.05,17.94,6.5 8,8.18,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.43,0.01,0.90,0.01,0.01
MedievalNomad,11.58,10.29,6.68,16.03,0.01,12.97,4. 58,0.01,1.50,9.34,24.94,1.85,0.01,0.01,0.28
MENA,0.01,4.09,0.01,0.01,11.24,10.98,46.15,20.98,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,6.55,0.01
MesolithicNeolithicSerbia,36.98,13.40,33.42,16.01, 0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.19,0.01, 0.01
MezhovskayaLBA,40.28,10.86,11.54,20.91,0.01,3.16,0 .01,0.01,5.10,0.01,6.21,1.95,0.01,0.01,0.01
MigrationPeriod,40.10,21.12,14.48,8.83,12.50,1.27, 1.66,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Minoan,0.74,12.62,0.01,0.01,34.08,10.80,38.26,3.40 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.10,0.01,0.01
Mota1,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.82,0.37,79.08,19.73
Motala,39.23,6.82,28.88,25.08,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01, 0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Mycenaean,8.22,12.42,0.34,0.42,27.27,13.17,32.70,4 .26,0.01,0.06,0.46,0.28,0.24,0.23,0.01
Namazga,0.01,0.01,0.01,9.33,0.01,60.68,18.32,0.01, 11.13,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.54
NeolithicGACFarmer,17.70,26.87,7.97,0.01,42.29,0.0 1,5.17,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
NeolithicIreland,8.66,32.65,2.85,0.01,43.20,0.01,6 .82,3.23,0.01,0.43,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.36,0.80
NeolithicOrkneyIslander,10.12,30.24,0.01,0.01,49.2 0,0.01,7.99,2.44,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.0 1
NeolithicScotland,11.56,30.39,0.17,0.01,45.70,0.01 ,8.36,3.16,0.01,0.11,0.01,0.01,0.19,0.03,0.01
NeolithicUkraine,33.45,7.35,25.71,28.63,0.01,0.01, 0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,4.87,0.01,0.01,0.01
NorthItalian,28.90,16.33,0.01,3.93,30.37,5.48,12.7 6,0.69,1.13,0.28,0.01,0.06,0.06,0.01,0.01
NorthNorwegianHunterGatherer,34.27,0.07,31.01,30.3 4,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,4.31,0.01,0.0 1,0.01
Oase1_Carpathian,11.94,10.68,6.67,0.01,5.06,0.01,0 .01,0.01,27.73,7.48,0.01,0.01,9.23,5.68,15.54
Okunevo,8.72,0.01,4.75,31.82,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,8 .17,0.01,30.10,16.42,0.01,0.01,0.01
OkunevoBA,11.17,9.94,6.02,31.73,0.01,0.19,0.01,0.0 1,4.64,0.01,23.51,12.30,0.51,0.01,0.01
Ostuni1,16.67,23.82,20.88,6.67,14.71,0.01,0.01,0.0 1,4.86,0.01,0.01,1.26,3.97,0.72,6.43
Ottoman,5.17,7.88,4.11,11.72,2.69,20.90,11.11,1.08 ,3.29,7.93,22.75,0.54,0.04,0.86,0.01
Ovaören,0.01,12.70,0.01,0.01,28.18,15.50,39.62,4.0 1,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
PaleoEskimo,1.33,0.01,2.26,11.43,0.01,0.01,0.01,0. 01,4.46,12.96,50.58,11.02,0.01,0.01,5.96
PolishBellBeaker,34.22,24.82,6.93,13.05,5.62,13.92 ,0.01,0.01,0.59,0.01,0.72,0.08,0.01,0.01,0.01
Poltavka,33.52,13.36,15.51,24.69,0.01,10.44,0.01,0 .01,1.55,0.01,0.01,0.96,0.01,0.01,0.01
Portugal_MBA,19.64,39.16,0.88,0.01,39.95,0.01,0.29 ,0.09,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Potapovka,37.55,26.27,14.26,17.76,0.01,4.16,0.01,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Pre,9.03,34.34,0.01,0.01,56.65,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Przeclawice,39.23,27.37,10.83,14.89,1.75,5.55,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.13,0.01,0.25
R1aM417,36.63,13.19,12.16,25.56,0.01,9.62,0.01,0.0 1,1.71,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.12,0.01,0.01
RemedelloCulture,3.16,37.50,1.28,0.01,55.08,0.01,2 .99,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
RomanSoldier,24.37,31.26,6.65,3.16,28.57,1.28,3.41 ,1.31,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
SanBushman,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01 ,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.09,36.40,63.51
Sarmatian,25.34,6.18,13.39,16.69,0.01,17.73,0.01,0 .01,9.21,0.01,5.92,2.55,0.01,0.01,0.01
SatsurbliaCHG,4.44,0.01,2.35,4.66,0.01,80.86,0.01, 0.01,1.63,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,6.05
Scythian_IO247,23.55,11.71,11.76,17.22,0.01,16.20, 0.01,0.01,6.77,1.57,6.84,3.70,0.01,0.15,0.54
Scythian_SaryBel,15.81,0.15,6.04,26.32,0.01,14.14, 0.01,0.01,5.00,3.46,21.37,6.22,0.01,0.01,1.49
Scythian_Scy311,26.14,24.65,6.95,9.03,15.40,9.48,7 .47,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.88
Scythian_Verh_Rise600,13.92,2.34,6.92,25.16,0.01,1 2.77,0.01,0.01,5.92,6.26,22.31,4.29,0.01,0.01,0.08
ScythianAldy,12.03,7.79,10.47,24.29,0.01,9.97,0.01 ,0.01,6.39,4.66,18.50,5.86,0.01,0.01,0.01
ScythianMoldova,15.33,28.84,6.92,1.71,25.83,6.48,1 4.18,0.74,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
ScythianPazyryk,8.51,0.01,4.46,18.37,0.01,8.40,0.0 1,0.01,5.82,12.57,33.79,6.55,1.48,0.01,0.01
ShamankaEBA,1.66,0.01,0.01,9.66,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.0 1,0.01,13.25,65.20,10.06,0.17,0.01,0.01
SharakhalsunSteppeMaykop,13.63,0.01,9.08,41.90,0.0 1,13.91,0.01,0.01,9.79,0.01,0.01,11.69,0.01,0.01,0 .01
Sholpan(CentralSteppe,5.17,0.01,6.65,30.29,0.01,0. 01,0.01,0.01,12.89,0.01,25.21,19.79,0.01,0.01,0.01
SimadelAngel,0.43,42.39,0.40,0.01,52.94,0.01,2.46, 1.38,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Sintashta,38.39,23.12,13.77,17.27,0.01,6.39,0.01,0 .01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,1.08
SouthFrenchBellBeaker,36.03,26.16,9.60,10.12,14.62 ,3.44,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
SpaintheChalcolithic,11.88,32.74,0.01,0.01,53.76,0 .01,0.01,1.62,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Srubnaya,37.82,20.75,18.82,17.63,0.12,7.09,0.01,0. 01,1.06,0.01,0.01,0.07,0.01,0.01,0.01
Starcevo(Hungary),1.99,20.82,2.37,0.01,39.84,0.01, 30.99,3.98,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
SteppeEBA2,6.89,0.01,6.45,28.83,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.0 1,13.78,0.01,24.93,18.82,0.30,0.01,0.01
Stuttgart_N,4.32,16.09,0.01,0.01,47.18,0.01,27.40, 5.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
Sunghir6,18.96,15.20,28.11,23.84,8.77,3.46,0.90,0. 01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.66,0.10,0.01,0.01
Taforalt1,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,13.10,0.01,8.25,26.2 6,0.01,3.31,0.01,2.15,2.63,35.61,8.69
Taforalt2,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,13.57,0.01,8.49,26.5 2,0.01,1.29,1.33,2.69,1.79,35.82,8.52
Tagar,25.05,17.27,9.69,27.23,0.01,8.65,0.01,0.01,0 .01,0.01,7.48,4.63,0.01,0.01,0.01
TianShanHun,15.40,16.03,7.10,19.67,0.01,17.81,0.01 ,0.01,8.60,0.01,11.54,3.85,0.01,0.01,0.01
TianShanSaka,21.75,6.40,8.51,16.97,0.01,13.61,0.01 ,0.01,5.68,3.98,18.14,4.97,0.01,0.01,0.01
Tianyuan,0.08,2.43,0.14,1.46,2.19,0.01,0.01,0.01,3 0.08,28.99,11.12,3.01,11.08,3.68,5.75
TurkicDA93,12.09,3.31,1.15,22.42,0.01,8.20,0.01,0. 01,0.69,9.90,37.08,5.17,0.01,0.01,0.01
Turkmenistan,22.82,4.63,5.49,19.61,0.01,38.39,0.72 ,0.01,8.35,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01
UkrainianNeolithicFarmer,14.48,14.66,8.30,0.01,39. 62,0.01,18.34,4.00,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.60,0.01,0 .01
UlanIVYamnaya,30.97,0.01,12.10,28.81,0.01,21.90,0. 01,0.01,4.51,0.01,0.01,1.72,0.01,0.01,0.01
UneticeBellBeaker,30.97,31.78,11.71,7.87,13.87,3.8 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Ust_Ida_LN,0.01,0.01,0.01,12.52,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.0 1,1.69,10.79,59.05,15.26,0.69,0.01,0.01
Vucedol,16.74,25.55,3.48,2.41,22.95,14.60,11.36,2. 79,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.13,0.00,0.00
Wusun,12.93,7.47,8.85,22.45,0.01,26.14,0.01,0.01,1 0.40,0.01,7.66,4.10,0.01,0.01,0.01
XiongNu,1.01,0.91,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.82,0. 01,72.77,23.12,0.47,0.17,0.01,0.78
Yamnaya,31.82,1.72,11.87,30.39,0.01,18.88,0.01,0.0 1,3.14,0.01,0.01,2.21,0.01,0.01,0.01
YamnayaKaragash,32.36,0.43,11.39,25.09,0.01,20.21, 0.01,0.01,5.79,0.01,0.01,4.74,0.01,0.01,0.01
Yoruba,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.20,0.01,0.3 2,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.01,99.48

I also noticed it now. I also checked my list that I shared a few pages ago and it was clear. I don't know how they duplicated.

Dušan
12-22-2019, 05:09 PM
The K15 ancient source sheet is very dirty and has a ton of duplicates of the same sample and sometimes the same sample is named under 2 names. I found that out because the results under the 2 names exactly matched. For example Kurdistan-Medieval and Latemedieval is the same sample.

Anyways I took an hour to clean it up and remove all the duplicates and average out the remainder and got this much cleaner sheet which you can use. if you re-run you will get results that make more sense:



Thank you very much.

https://i.imgur.com/RXieDLM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sWXeZEd.jpg



What is KaramanKalehoyuk?

Impaler
12-22-2019, 05:19 PM
Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.9424% / 4.94240656 | ADC: 0.25x
38.6 Bavaria
17.8 Canaanite
13.4 LaBrana(Spain)
8.2 Kipchak
6.8 Oase1_Carpathian
6.6 Sunghir6
4.0 Kurdistan_Medieval
2.2 KaramanKalehoyuk
2.0 AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic
0.4 Loschbour


Target: Impaler
Distance: 8.1712% / 8.17116581 | ADC: 0.5x
57.6 Bavaria
17.8 Kipchak
12.2 Canaanite
7.4 Ostuni1
4.4 BR2
0.6 Sunghir6


Distance to: Impaler
14.11308967 Bavaria
20.99249151 Crimean
21.10170372 BronzeAgeDalmatian
21.18758363 EMBA
21.60167586 MedievalHungarian
22.13629825 BronzAgeBalkan
22.14342792 Scythian_Scy311
22.63273293 Kipchak
23.05033188 Vucedol
23.90513543 IronAgeBalkan
24.18862749 BR2
25.02823006 ScythianMoldova
26.29668040 ArmeniaCA
27.30421579 Mycenaean
27.34277601 GoyetQ116
27.50770801 Scythian_IO247
28.21377500 Ostuni1
28.28596295 ArmenianChalcolithic
28.55535852 Kostenki14
29.24426952 Sarmatian
29.35865801 TianShanHun
29.75865924 NorthItalian
29.84329070 ChalcolithicAgeAnatolian
30.03557724 HallstattCelt
30.40055756 Kangju

WeirdLookingFellow
12-22-2019, 05:24 PM
you can add more dist cols, upt to 2. 1 and 2 are the most realistic for me

Doesn't do much better. The distances bolded by me here show the real diff between her and I .



Distance to: Fellow
6.64071532 Romania_Sw
6.96392219 Macedonian
7.52641349 South_Serbian
7.61947076 Montenegrin
7.62857785 Romania_Nw
8.18325119 Romanian
8.24683576 Romania_South
8.30998797 Bulgarian
8.36876335 Romania_Se
8.44395050 Serbian
8.59529959 Szekely
8.80607567 Serbian_Bosnia
8.97767230 Romania_Ne
9.33588239 Bosniak
9.38544490 Bosnian
9.56464845 Macedonian_2
10.23078198 Italy_Friuli
10.86046500 Italy_Trentino
10.99990455 Albanian-Kosovo
11.40194720 Gagauz
11.78079463 Kosovo_Albanian
11.97180438 Albanian-Macedonia
12.10913859 Croat_Bosnia
12.35892172 Slovenian
12.60091267 Italy_Veneto

Distance to: FellowGF
7.15339765 Macedonian
7.54748302 Romanian
7.83055554 Bulgarian
8.19189844 South_Serbian
8.59947673 Romania_Sw
8.65872392 Romania_Ne
8.87910468 Romania_Nw
9.14016411 Romania_South
9.50112625 Macedonian_2
9.50668293 Montenegrin
9.54265162 Bosniak
10.02782130 Serbian
10.33653230 Gagauz
10.63300503 Bosnian
10.75294930 Serbian_Bosnia
10.80957446 Romania_Se
10.82443224 Kosovo_Albanian
11.08638805 Albanian-Macedonia
11.40160844 Szekely
11.92441613 Bulgarian_Thracian
12.03857134 Albanian-Kosovo
13.55710146 Moldavian
13.57221426 Italy_Friuli
13.66750892 Greek
13.91941011 GR_Macedonia

Lucas
12-22-2019, 05:36 PM
Yes, Thracian sheet for K15 Ancients had duplicates. I returned to computer now and removed them.
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k15ancient-vahaduo.htm

Dick
12-22-2019, 05:38 PM
K15. More Bosniak than Bosniensis although the distance isn’t good as usual

Distance to: Dick
8.34749064 Bosniak
8.59029274 Bosnian
9.18609275 Romania_Ne
9.25491221 Romania_Sw
9.26308095 Serbian_Bosnia
9.78686364 Romania_Nw
10.43303407 Bulgarian
10.56191271 Moldavian
10.82051217 Macedonian
10.93526406 Romania_South
11.25747307 Romanian
11.80268882 Montenegrin
11.80311400 Romania_Se
12.01161937 South_Serbian
12.23217479 Gagauz
12.42674535 Croatian
13.38358696 Serbian
13.43584525 Croat_Bosnia
13.54970756 Szekely
13.93509239 Macedonian_2
14.11187007 Slovenian
15.43457482 Hungarian
16.19236388 Slovak
16.20302132 Bulgarian_Thracian
16.34645221 Ukrainian_Lviv


Target: Dick
Distance: 8.3475% / 8.34749064 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Bosniak

andre
12-22-2019, 05:42 PM
Target: K13
Distance: 5.1282% / 5.12817754 | ADC: 1x
83.0 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
17.0 Serbian_new

Target: Eutest
Distance: 6.6715% / 6.67154405 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Romanian

Target: AndreK15
Distance: 6.2016% / 6.20162709 | ADC: 1x
82.0 Romania_Ne
18.0 Bulgarian_Thracian

Target: MDLP_WORLD22
Distance: 5.0523% / 5.05230640 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Bulgarian

Cumansky
12-22-2019, 08:26 PM
..

Moje ime
12-22-2019, 08:29 PM
Who else gets BronzAgeBalkan in K15 ancient?

Cumansky
12-22-2019, 08:30 PM
Distance to: Cumansky_FatherK15
12.22931723 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
13.84131858 EarlyBA_PL_N17
14.03279017 Sunghir6
14.80669781 Ajvide58(Sweden)
15.05127902 Motala_12(Sweden)
15.06498258 NeolithicUkraine_I1736
15.21650748 Srubnaya_I0232
16.26218005 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
16.89884020 HallstattCelt_DA112
19.43414521 NorthNorwegianHunterGatherer_STG001
19.57499936 Loschbour
20.63583534 BronzAgeSilesian_I6531
20.81162416 Andronovo_RISE505
20.93162201 BronzAgeBulgarian
20.94979714 CheddarMan
20.97741404 Sintashta_RISE395
21.57730057 LaBrana(Spain)
21.90304317 Andronovo_RISE500
22.17385623 R1aM417_I6561
22.78802756 MezhovskayaLBA_RISE523
22.99611489 Cimmerian_Cim357
23.06367924 Poltavka_I0432
23.14530190 MigrationPeriod_DA119
23.34823976 Tagar_DA2
23.52419605 Potapovka_I0419

Cumansky
12-22-2019, 08:31 PM
Distance to: Cumansky_MotherK15
12.11149454 Sunghir6
17.49288427 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
18.05530116 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
19.37070985 EarlyBA_PL_N17
19.47494801 Srubnaya_I0232
19.60752152 HallstattCelt_DA112
20.88259562 NeolithicUkraine_I1736
21.55173775 Ajvide58(Sweden)
22.04301477 Motala_12(Sweden)
22.18341047 Loschbour
22.87168555 LaBrana(Spain)
23.74668187 Ostuni1
23.95545241 BR2_Hungary
24.14367619 NorthNorwegianHunterGatherer_STG001
24.30894074 Andronovo_RISE505
24.35942323 CheddarMan
25.96819978 Andronovo_RISE500
26.23558652 BeakerBritain_I2443
26.79605941 Sintashta_RISE395
27.04090975 BronzAgeSilesian_I6531
27.07166046 MedievalHungarian_DA199
27.12219386 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
27.16189242 Tagar_DA2
27.50992003 BronzAgeBulgarian
28.38216341 Poltavka_I0432

JohnnyP
12-22-2019, 08:35 PM
K13 update

Target: JohnnyP
Distance: 1.4160% / 1.41598330
42.2 Albanian
22.0 Southwest_Russian
11.2 Lebanese_Druze
9.6 Belorussian
8.0 Romanian_Transylvania
3.2 Estonian
2.8 Southwest_Finnish
0.8 South_Polish
0.2 Papuan

Distance to: JohnnyP
3.73201018 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
4.13726340 Macedonian
4.91288103 Romanian_Oltenia
5.10605568 Montenegrin
5.27839938 Romanian_Transylvania
5.33351666 Bulgarian

K15 update

Target: JohnnyP
Distance: 1.9239% / 1.92391229
35.4 Albanian-North
27.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
14.4 Cypriot
12.0 Lithuanian
6.4 West_Norwegian
2.2 Abhkasian
2.0 Turkish_Trabzon
0.2 Evens
0.2 Papuan

Distance to: JohnnyP
4.44757237 Romania_South
5.25242801 Romanian
5.31400230 Montenegrin
5.37740492 Macedonian
5.51043555 Bulgarian

These two without "North_Macedonia" reference. Distance is not different.. like 1.39/1.41
With North_Macedonia reference K13 Updated

32.0 Albanian
26.2 Southwest_Russian
21.8 North_Macedonian
9.6 Lebanese_Druze
5.6 Belorussian
3.8 Estonian
0.8 Finnish
0.2 Papuan
K15 Original

Target: JohnnyP
Distance: 2.3409% / 2.34089801
58.6 Greek_Thessaly
27.4 Lithuanian
8.6 Swedish
4.0 Abhkasian
0.8 Armenian
0.4 Lebanese_Druze
0.2 Papuan

K15 Ancient

Target: JohnnyP
Distance: 0.8108% / 0.81084155
25.6 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia
19.8 Minoan
15.8 Sunghir6
15.0 KurdistanChalcolithic
8.4 Loschbour
6.6 MakoCultureHungary
5.0 AnatolianEF
1.6 UkrainianNeolithicFarmer
0.8 Kura
0.6 AboriginalAustralian
0.6 GoldenHorde
0.2 KaramanKalehoyuk

Distance to: JohnnyP
15.25111471 Bavaria
17.18146094 MedievalHungarian
19.76653485 BR2
20.68569071 Scythian_Scy311
20.90408333 BronzeAgeDalmatian
22.60493530 EMBA
23.20781119 BronzAgeBalkan

What is MesolithicNeolithicSerbia?

Moje ime
12-22-2019, 08:35 PM
Distance to: Dick-dad
16.61433417 MedievalHungarian_DA199
16.61433417 MedievalHungarian_DA199
16.61433417 MedievalHungarian_DA199
16.61433417 MedievalHungarian_DA199
17.49515361 HallstattCelt_DA112
17.49515361 HallstattCelt_DA112
17.49515361 HallstattCelt_DA112
17.49515361 HallstattCelt_DA112
18.29953551 BR2_Hungary
18.29953551 BR2_Hungary
18.29953551 BR2_Hungary
18.29953551 BR2_Hungary
18.91557031 Bavaria_STR310
18.91557031 Bavaria_STR310
18.91557031 Bavaria_STR310
18.91557031 Bavaria_STR310
19.19516606 Sunghir6
19.19516606 Sunghir6
19.19516606 Sunghir6
19.19516606 Sunghir6
19.53945496 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
19.53945496 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
19.53945496 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
19.53945496 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
21.06851205 Ostuni1




Eurogenes K15 Ancient

Distance to: MI
14.83995957 MedievalHungarian_DA199
14.83995957 MedievalHungarian_DA199
14.83995957 MedievalHungarian_DA199
14.83995957 MedievalHungarian_DA199
15.28729865 BR2_Hungary
15.28729865 BR2_Hungary
15.28729865 BR2_Hungary
15.28729865 BR2_Hungary
15.29338092 Bavaria_STR310
15.29338092 Bavaria_STR310
15.29338092 Bavaria_STR310
15.29338092 Bavaria_STR310
16.34019584 Scythian_SCY311
16.34019584 Scythian_SCY311
16.34019584 Scythian_SCY311
16.34019584 Scythian_SCY311
18.38173822 HallstattCelt_DA112
18.38173822 HallstattCelt_DA112
18.38173822 HallstattCelt_DA112
18.38173822 HallstattCelt_DA112
19.38926765 BronzAgeBalkan
19.38926765 BronzAgeBalkan
19.38926765 BronzAgeBalkan
19.38926765 BronzAgeBalkan
19.85005038 Ostuni1

Who else gets HallstattCelt_DA112?

Bosniensis
12-22-2019, 08:38 PM
ANCIENT K15


Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 0.3340% / 0.33403245
28.6 Sunghir6
7.0 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
6.6 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
6.0 LaBrana(Spain)
5.6 LateMedieval_Iranian
5.6 Srubnaya_I0232
5.4 AnatolianEF_I0709
4.8 Motala_12(Sweden)
4.4 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
4.2 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
2.6 CovachadelAngel_COV20126
2.6 NE1_Starcevo(Hungary)
2.2 AnatolianEF_I0707
1.8 RemedelloCulture_RISE487
1.4 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
1.2 LevantPPNB_I0867
1.0 AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic_Tep003
1.0 Hoabinhian_LA368
1.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
1.0 LateNeolithicMorocco_KEB4
1.0 WC1_Iran
0.8 Andronovo_RISE505
0.8 CheddarMan
0.8 Loschbour
0.6 Andronovo_RISE500
0.4 Mota1
0.4 R1aM417_I6561
0.2 BR2_Hungary
0.2 MENA_GladiatorYork_3DRIF26
0.2 Namazga_DA381
0.2 NeolithicGACFarmer_RISE1168
0.2 ScythianMoldova_SCY300
0.2 Yamnaya_RISE552



Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 1.8671% / 1.86706416 | ADC: 0.25x
46.6 Sunghir6
28.0 Bavaria_STR310
5.8 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
5.8 Ostuni1
4.6 BR2_Hungary
4.0 MENA_GladiatorYork_3DRIF26
3.8 Canaanite_ERS1790729
0.8 Mycenaean_I9041
0.6 Ovaören_Topakhöyük_AnatoliaEBA_MA2212

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 4.5598% / 4.55984390 | ADC: 0.5x
42.2 Sunghir6
40.0 Bavaria_STR310
10.4 BR2_Hungary
3.0 Mycenaean_I9041
2.6 MENA_GladiatorYork_3DRIF26
1.8 Canaanite_ERS1790729

Bosniensis
12-22-2019, 08:40 PM
Eurogenes K15 Updated!

Distance to: Bosniensis
2.55876924 Romania_Nw
3.43247724 Romania_Ne
3.55709376 Bosnian
3.89982291 Serbian_Bosnia
4.05484895 Bosniak
4.53779682 Serbian
4.68715265 South_Serbian
5.18350327 Montenegrin
5.67328829 Romania_Sw
5.79814626 Romanian
6.10047757 Macedonian
6.19213210 Romania_Se
6.85492524 Moldavian
7.14658485 Szekely
7.23762392 Romania_South
7.61485391 Bulgarian
8.42599178 Croat_Bosnia
8.59128628 Croatian
9.05711875 Slovenian
10.28993197 Hungarian
10.32887216 Macedonian_2
10.41616532 Gagauz
10.68723070 Austrian
11.37451537 Kaykavian_Croatian
12.90716624 Slovak


Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 1.1393% / 1.13932694 | ADC: 0.25x
44.0 Romania_Nw
25.4 Bosniak
14.0 Serbian
12.4 Bosnian
2.0 Sardinian
1.0 Brahmin_UP
0.6 Kalash
0.4 Moroccan
0.2 Somali

Moje ime
12-22-2019, 08:47 PM
K15 ancient

Distance to: MI
14.83995957 MedievalHungarian_DA199
15.28729865 BR2_Hungary
15.29338092 Bavaria_STR310
16.34019584 Scythian_SCY311
18.38173822 HallstattCelt_DA112
19.38926765 BronzAgeBalkan
19.85005038 Ostuni1
19.92774950 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
20.26809562 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
20.38365522 BeakerBritain_I2443
21.26053386 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
21.88828911 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
22.22692511 EarlyBA_PL_N17
22.32742932 Sunghir6
22.70778281 Vucedol_I3499
22.96381066 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
23.12691938 Srubnaya_I0232
23.32290076 UneticeBellBeaker_RISE577
23.82626702 Andronovo_DA231
23.84847584 Scythian_I0247
23.93546323 Andronovo_RISE500
24.02985643 PolishBellBeaker_I4253
24.17098674 Andronovo_RISE505
24.80319334 LateBronzeAgeScotland
24.85276645 BronzeAgeNetherlands_I4070

Moje ime
12-22-2019, 08:48 PM
ANCIENT K15


Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 0.3340% / 0.33403245
28.6 Sunghir6
7.0 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
6.6 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
6.0 LaBrana(Spain)
5.6 LateMedieval_Iranian
5.6 Srubnaya_I0232
5.4 AnatolianEF_I0709
4.8 Motala_12(Sweden)
4.4 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
4.2 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
2.6 CovachadelAngel_COV20126
2.6 NE1_Starcevo(Hungary)
2.2 AnatolianEF_I0707
1.8 RemedelloCulture_RISE487
1.4 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
1.2 LevantPPNB_I0867
1.0 AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic_Tep003
1.0 Hoabinhian_LA368
1.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
1.0 LateNeolithicMorocco_KEB4
1.0 WC1_Iran
0.8 Andronovo_RISE505
0.8 CheddarMan
0.8 Loschbour
0.6 Andronovo_RISE500
0.4 Mota1
0.4 R1aM417_I6561
0.2 BR2_Hungary
0.2 MENA_GladiatorYork_3DRIF26
0.2 Namazga_DA381
0.2 NeolithicGACFarmer_RISE1168
0.2 ScythianMoldova_SCY300
0.2 Yamnaya_RISE552



Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 1.8671% / 1.86706416 | ADC: 0.25x
46.6 Sunghir6
28.0 Bavaria_STR310
5.8 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
5.8 Ostuni1
4.6 BR2_Hungary
4.0 MENA_GladiatorYork_3DRIF26
3.8 Canaanite_ERS1790729
0.8 Mycenaean_I9041
0.6 Ovaören_Topakhöyük_AnatoliaEBA_MA2212

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 4.5598% / 4.55984390 | ADC: 0.5x
42.2 Sunghir6
40.0 Bavaria_STR310
10.4 BR2_Hungary
3.0 Mycenaean_I9041
2.6 MENA_GladiatorYork_3DRIF26
1.8 Canaanite_ERS1790729

How you get those distances?

vbnetkhio
12-22-2019, 08:49 PM
Eurogenes K15 Updated!

post k13 updated

Moje ime
12-22-2019, 08:51 PM
K15 update

Distance to: MI
4.08105072 Szekely
6.22233075 Romania_Ne
6.41254240 Serbian
6.54964885 South_Serbian
6.84413618 Romanian
7.02315456 Bosniak
7.23952346 Romania_Sw
7.37040406 Bosnian
7.58259890 Montenegrin
7.73078263 Romania_Nw
7.77705399 Serbian_Bosnia
8.45558637 Macedonian
8.52865171 Romania_South
8.68724352 Austrian
9.00995390 Slovenian
9.37236363 Hungarian
9.87002026 Bulgarian
10.26807187 Croatian
10.34157145 Moldavian
10.35639838 Croat_Bosnia
10.45183716 Kaykavian_Croatian
10.78129862 Romania_Se
12.24128670 Austria-Tyrol
12.33169494 Austria-Burgenland
12.41122879 Czech

JohnnyP
12-22-2019, 08:53 PM
K13 update

Target: JohnnyP
Distance: 1.4160% / 1.41598330
42.2 Albanian
22.0 Southwest_Russian
11.2 Lebanese_Druze
9.6 Belorussian
8.0 Romanian_Transylvania
3.2 Estonian
2.8 Southwest_Finnish
0.8 South_Polish
0.2 Papuan

Distance to: JohnnyP
3.73201018 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
4.13726340 Macedonian
4.91288103 Romanian_Oltenia
5.10605568 Montenegrin
5.27839938 Romanian_Transylvania
5.33351666 Bulgarian

K15 update

Target: JohnnyP
Distance: 1.9239% / 1.92391229
35.4 Albanian-North
27.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
14.4 Cypriot
12.0 Lithuanian
6.4 West_Norwegian
2.2 Abhkasian
2.0 Turkish_Trabzon
0.2 Evens
0.2 Papuan

Distance to: JohnnyP
4.44757237 Romania_South
5.25242801 Romanian
5.31400230 Montenegrin
5.37740492 Macedonian
5.51043555 Bulgarian

These two without "North_Macedonia" reference. Distance is not different.. like 1.39/1.41
With North_Macedonia reference K13 Updated

32.0 Albanian
26.2 Southwest_Russian
21.8 North_Macedonian
9.6 Lebanese_Druze
5.6 Belorussian
3.8 Estonian
0.8 Finnish
0.2 Papuan
K15 Original

Target: JohnnyP
Distance: 2.3409% / 2.34089801
58.6 Greek_Thessaly
27.4 Lithuanian
8.6 Swedish
4.0 Abhkasian
0.8 Armenian
0.4 Lebanese_Druze
0.2 Papuan

K15 Ancient

Target: JohnnyP
Distance: 0.8108% / 0.81084155
25.6 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia
19.8 Minoan
15.8 Sunghir6
15.0 KurdistanChalcolithic
8.4 Loschbour
6.6 MakoCultureHungary
5.0 AnatolianEF
1.6 UkrainianNeolithicFarmer
0.8 Kura
0.6 AboriginalAustralian
0.6 GoldenHorde
0.2 KaramanKalehoyuk

Distance to: JohnnyP
15.25111471 Bavaria
17.18146094 MedievalHungarian
19.76653485 BR2
20.68569071 Scythian_Scy311
20.90408333 BronzeAgeDalmatian
22.60493530 EMBA
23.20781119 BronzAgeBalkan



What is MesolithicNeolithicSerbia?

vbnetkhio
12-22-2019, 08:54 PM
Who else gets HallstattCelt_DA112?

mine:
https://i.imgur.com/2DmNZiS.png

https://i.imgur.com/0oTlIhU.png
here Sunghir6 represents my Slavic admixture, and the rest is a breakdown of my non-Slavic admixture.

Bosniensis
12-22-2019, 08:55 PM
post k13 updated

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 1.5195% / 1.51949574 | ADC: 0.5x
88.4 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
10.8 Romanian_Transylvania
0.8 Austroasiatic_Ho

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 1.2167% / 1.21672161 | ADC: 0.25x
85.2 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
11.8 Romanian_Transylvania
1.4 Austroasiatic_Ho
0.8 Macedonian
0.6 Swiss_Italian
0.2 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 0.6203% / 0.62030942
34.6 Albanian
25.2 South_Polish
20.2 Macedonian
8.6 Lithuanian
6.6 Austrian
1.4 Lebanese_Druze
0.8 Austroasiatic_Ho
0.6 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.6 Malay
0.6 Sakilli
0.4 Belorussian
0.2 Romani
0.2 Southeast_English

Distance


2.19214507 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
2.50056534 Serbian_new
2.84956137 Serb_Croatia
3.73076525 Bosnian
4.03687998 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
4.13136781 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
4.35515069 Serbian_Bosnia
4.37141853 Croat_Split
4.67634980 Montenegrin
4.79076194 Romanian_Transylvania
4.92707824 Szekely
5.30477144 Bosniak_Sandzak
6.05877308 Croat_Bosnia
6.07240480 Romanian_Oltenia
6.24093445 Macedonian
6.32315586 Romanian_Botosani
6.79759516 Csango_Gymes
7.29692401 Moldavian
8.20399902 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
8.27432777 Romanian_Muntenia
8.52203614 Bulgarian
8.88634345 Bosniak_Tuzla
9.16758882 Slovenian
9.94649593 North_Macedonian
9.96587176 Croatian

Cumansky
12-22-2019, 08:56 PM
What is MesolithicNeolithicSerbia?

Starcevo

93973

JohnnyP
12-22-2019, 09:03 PM
Starcevo

93973

Thanks !

JohnnyP
12-22-2019, 09:18 PM
Here some Balkans to score high MesolithicNeolithicSerbia?

Dick
12-22-2019, 09:30 PM
Distance to: Dick
20.76245650 Sunghir6
22.62930180 MedievalHungarian_DA199
22.70897180 Bavaria_STR310
22.80386371 BR2_Hungary
23.54127864 Ostuni1
23.87747893 HallstattCelt_DA112
24.32715972 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
26.34457060 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
27.08467648 Scythian_SCY311
27.53853482 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
27.60243649 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
27.93913563 Srubnaya_I0232
28.24172976 EarlyBA_PL_N17
28.45483087 BronzAgeBalkan
28.83922329 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
29.01412242 Scythian_I0247
29.99744156 Andronovo_RISE505
29.99833662 Sarmatian_Pokrovka_I0575
30.25857730 BeakerBritain_I2443
30.35547232 Vucedol_I3499
30.88452849 Kipchak_DA179
31.09929099 GoyetQ116_1
31.53248642 Tagar_DA2
32.02893536 LaBrana(Spain)
32.11357345 IronAgeBalkan


Target: Dick
Distance: 6.7875% / 6.78752409
47.0 Sunghir6
21.4 Loschbour
13.2 KurdistanChalcolithic_I1674
12.4 AnatolianEF_I1583
6.0 LevantPPNB_I0867


Distance to: Dick-dad
16.61433417 MedievalHungarian_DA199
17.49515361 HallstattCelt_DA112
18.29953551 BR2_Hungary
18.91557031 Bavaria_STR310
19.19516606 Sunghir6
19.53945496 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
21.06851205 Ostuni1
21.88900866 Scythian_SCY311
22.41199902 EarlyBA_PL_N17
23.24001076 Srubnaya_I0232
23.29102832 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
24.24192030 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
24.82784525 Scythian_I0247
25.19344955 BeakerBritain_I2443
25.28880582 Andronovo_RISE505
25.43181865 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
25.71769819 MigrationPeriod_DA119
25.74299711 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
25.78176487 Sarmatian_Pokrovka_I0575
25.99094842 BronzAgeBalkan
26.20523230 BronzAgeBulgarian
26.68814531 GoyetQ116_1
26.73256254 Andronovo_DA231
26.78828289 Andronovo_RISE500
27.12518756 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871


Target: Dick-dad
Distance: 1.6060% / 1.60603775
37.2 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
19.4 AnatolianEF_I1583
14.6 Sunghir6
11.2 Loschbour
8.4 ChalcolithicIranian
2.6 LevantPPNB_I0867
2.0 NorthNorwegianHunterGatherer_STG001
1.4 Kotias
1.4 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
1.4 WC1_Iran
0.4 AboriginalAustralian

Carpatz
12-23-2019, 11:53 AM
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/445888351053283329/658653018257883138/unknown.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/445888351053283329/658653288782233630/unknown.png

oszkar07
12-23-2019, 12:10 PM
K15 Ancient

Distance to: oszkar
9.13265022 BeakerBritain_I2443
10.57137645 BR2_Hungary
12.29724766 LateBronzeAgeScotland
13.36422089 HallstattCelt_DA112
13.58668466 UneticeBellBeaker_RISE577
13.63044020 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
14.25719117 BronzeAgeOrkneyIslander_I2981
14.69822098 Andronovo_RISE500
14.99650626 BronzeAgeOuterHebrides_I2655
15.13867564 Scythian_SCY311
15.57800693 BronzeAgeNetherlands_I4070
16.36654820 LaBrana(Spain)
16.53347211 EarlyBA_PL_N17
16.61403022 SouthFrenchBellBeaker_I3875
16.90734752 Potapovka_I0419
17.01352697 Andronovo_DA231
17.16707605 Sintashta_RISE395
17.26381186 Ostuni1
17.27596886 MedievalHungarian_DA199
17.61289868 Srubnaya_I0423
17.62869536 PolishBellBeaker_I4253
17.96280323 Przeclawice_RISE150
18.21144420 Cimmerian_Cim357
18.27585019 Poltavka_I0432
18.53319454 Andronovo_RISE505
18.67946466 HallstattCelt_DA111
18.70670201 Srubnaya_I0232
18.95253809 BronzeAgeEngland_I2462
19.02010252 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
19.09904186 MigrationPeriod_DA119

Target: oszkar
Distance: 2.1798% / 2.17981368 | ADC: 0.25x
49.4 BeakerBritain_I2443
40.6 BR2_Hungary
5.0 Sunghir6
2.0 Gokturk_DA89
1.8 Andronovo_RISE500
1.2 IA_Ardea_R850

andre
12-23-2019, 12:19 PM
Distance to: AndreK15
16.66633133 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
19.81037102 BR2_Hungary
20.52560352 Bavaria_STR310
22.14013098 BronzAgeBalkan
22.28273996 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
22.34334129 MedievalHungarian_DA199
22.62461933 Ostuni1
22.98350931 Scythian_SCY311
23.99417638 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
24.02046211 Sunghir6
24.24486750 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
25.16471538 Vucedol_I3499
25.23318450 HallstattCelt_DA112
25.44414667 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
25.52447845 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
25.61430265 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
26.10704311 BeakerBritain_I2443
27.05188533 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
27.78220474 IA_Ardea_R851
27.78355809 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
27.85766142 Kipchak_DA179
28.01402863 ScythianMoldova_SCY300
28.03629433 Crimean_Goth_KER1
28.10570938 Scythian_I0247
28.36316273 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435

Target: AndreK15
Distance: 2.9399% / 2.93991991
35.2 IA_Ardea_R850
30.0 Sunghir6
25.2 LaBrana(Spain)
6.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
3.2 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
0.2 Karluk_DA230

IA_ARDEA it’s a hellenic sample?

oszkar07
12-23-2019, 12:39 PM
EU Test Updated
Target: oszkar
Distance: 0.4790% / 0.47897138
25.2 Ukrainian-Russian
25.0 Scottish
13.2 French_Basque
12.6 Irish
8.0 Northwest_Russian
4.2 Georgian
4.2 Serbian
4.0 Norwegian
2.0 Albanian_1
0.6 Bedouin
0.6 Latvian_1
0.2 Sardinian
0.2 Moroccan_Jew

Target: oszkar
Distance: 1.7042% / 1.70417774 | ADC: 0.25x
44.6 Irish
43.6 Slovenian_1
9.4 Austrian
2.4 Udmurt

Target: oszkar
Distance: 3.0490% / 3.04903292 | ADC: 0.5x
45.4 Austrian
31.6 Irish
19.0 Kaikavian_Croatian
2.6 Slovenian_1
1.4 Erzya

ph2ter
12-23-2019, 12:41 PM
Ancient K15
Distance to: ph2ter
13.27287459 BeakerBritain_I2443
14.48048687 Sunghir6
15.61090004 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
15.68803047 BR2_Hungary
16.07602563 Andronovo_RISE500
16.43310683 Andronovo_RISE505
16.69693385 Srubnaya_I0232
16.87225533 EarlyBA_PL_N17
17.46730374 HallstattCelt_DA112
17.75744633 Ostuni1
18.13197176 Andronovo_DA231
18.77636280 LaBrana(Spain)
20.02631768 LateBronzeAgeScotland
20.43017376 Scythian_SCY311
20.90940937 Sintashta_RISE395
21.16730498 Tagar_DA2
21.42417560 UneticeBellBeaker_RISE577
21.65886424 BronzAgeSilesian_I6531
21.76266987 BronzeAgeNetherlands_I4070
21.78319995 MedievalHungarian_DA199
21.96241790 Scythian_I0247
21.99878860 Potapovka_I0419
22.10417155 BronzeAgeOrkneyIslander_I2981
22.32685379 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
22.34091314 Tagar_DA4

Target: ph2ter
Distance: 4.2867% / 4.28669271 | ADC: 0.5x
43.8 Sunghir6
42.6 BeakerBritain_I2443
13.6 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1

oszkar07
12-23-2019, 01:01 PM
JTest

arget: oszkar
Distance: 0.8695% / 0.86954998
36.8 Ukrainian-Russian
33.4 Scottish
14.0 French_Basque
6.2 English
4.0 AJ
3.4 GE
2.0 PL
0.2 Lezgin

Target: oszkar
Distance: 2.3622% / 2.36223265 | ADC: 0.25x
44.8 AT
17.0 Scottish
14.4 IE
8.6 HU
7.0 West_Russian
6.4 Erzya
1.8 French_Basque

After removing Austrian
Target: oszkar
Distance: 2.2635% / 2.26354696 | ADC: 0.25x
49.6 HU
30.8 Scottish
11.8 IE
5.8 Erzya
1.8 Cornish
0.2 AJ

oszkar07
12-23-2019, 01:30 PM
Punt K13
Target: OSZKAR
Distance: 3.1884% / 3.18844131 | ADC: 1x
79.4 Slovene
20.6 English

arget: OSZKAR
Distance: 0.9783% / 0.97826479 | ADC: 0.25x
45.8 Slovene
33.4 English
11.2 Utahn_European
6.2 German_North
1.8 Nganasan
0.8 Chuvash
0.6 San
0.2 Igorot

Lucas
12-23-2019, 02:34 PM
Guys on Eupedia posted Italian IA samples for K15. There are added now.

IA_Civitavecchia_R475,10.71,18.46,6.45,0.00,29.97, 0.00,21.12,7.31,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.58,1.39
IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015,20.18,24.4 7,6.27,0.00,29.55,1.52,15.83,2.17,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1,13.51,25.05,7.9 6,4.94,17.20,9.42,16.80,3.47,0.00,0.00,1.09,0.44,0 .14,0.00,0.00
IA_Ardea_R850,0.39,14.49,7.18,0.00,18.05,19.14,29. 44,9.85,0.00,0.18,0.86,0.13,0.00,0.28,0.00
IA_Ardea_R851,22.08,24.02,10.76,0.00,28.36,2.79,11 .81,0.17,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437,12.48,11.77,5.88,0.00, 23.49,15.70,26.02,4.61,0.00,0.06,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00
IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435,25.40,27.09,5.90,4.5 8,23.79,3.38,7.23,2.08,0.00,0.00,0.35,0.22,0.00,0. 00,0.00
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016,20.79,22.96,5.82,0.00,29 .90,2.74,16.58,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.22,0.00,0.00, 0.00
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021,19.93,27.14,5.05,0.41,28.4 3,3.42,13.94,1.26,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.41,0.00,0. 00
IA_Civitavecchia_R474,20.28,25.51,8.92,1.58,21.56, 5.11,13.46,2.26,0.00,0.00,0.46,0.45,0.00,0.33,0.09
IA_Civitavecchia_R473,16.32,27.56,8.37,1.35,26.20, 2.87,13.24,4.09,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00

Rgvgjhvv
12-23-2019, 03:10 PM
Updated K15, just all Greek and Italian :lol:

Distance to: Markos
4.40062496 Central_Greek
4.59918471 Italy_Apulia
5.79958080 GR_Peloponese
5.82318641 Greek_Crete
5.95710500 Italy_Abruzzo
6.35149589 Greek
6.35619383 East_Sicilian
6.50413714 Italy_Campania
6.54254538 South_Italian
7.40443786 Italy_West_Sicily
7.80454355 Italy_Central_Sicily
7.86192724 Italy_East_Sicily
8.15282228 GR_Macedonia

bained
12-23-2019, 03:32 PM
10.48664865 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
15.40716067 Bavaria_STR310
16.07528849 IA_Civitavecchia_R474

Mama mia

Dušan
12-23-2019, 03:48 PM
60% Slav, 40% Vlach

https://i.imgur.com/QZ6THAv.jpg









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Hapanuwa
12-23-2019, 04:03 PM
K15 updated:

Distance to: Hapanuwa
7.08593678 Turkish_Balikesir
7.57161145 Turkish_Aydin
11.02207331 Turkish_Adana
12.98173332 Turkish_Anatolia
13.10771147 Turkish_Kayseri
13.91815721 Greek_Crete
14.26802719 Ashkenazi
14.78313566 Central_Greek
15.74886980 Italy_Abruzzo
15.80473980 East_Sicilian
16.30740016 Italy_East_Sicily
16.44045924 Italy_Apulia
16.46466148 GR_Macedonia
16.72394092 Italy_Calabria
16.87605108 South_Italian
16.90617158 GR_Peloponese
16.95412339 Italy_West_Sicily
17.43754857 Italy_Central_Sicily
17.45474148 Italy_Campania
17.51605549 Greek_Thessaly
17.62660773 Azerbaijani
18.98275797 Greek
19.00163151 Albanian-South
19.26503309 Turkmen
19.37138870 Albanian-North


K15 ancient

Distance to: Hapanuwa
14.74695562 Crimean_Goth_KER1
16.47115661 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1632
17.37892689 Ottoman_MA2196
17.54890310 ArmeniaCA_I1631
17.94987465 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
18.65233229 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1407
19.40105152 IA_Ardea_R850
19.87176640 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
20.19720278 ChalcolithicAgeAnatolian
20.46857592 Kipchak_DA179
22.51827702 Mycenaean_I9006
23.33960368 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2200
23.37690099 Bavaria_STR310
24.04829100 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
24.04829100 LateMedieval_Iranian
24.49744885 Kurdistan_EIA_F38
24.94518190 IronAgeBalkan
24.95639597 CopperAgeIran_I4241
25.68103775 ArmeniaMBA_RISE423
26.33477169 Mycenaean_I9041
27.57386988 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
27.65777106 CopperAgeIran_I4351
27.86212303 Canaanite_ERS1790730
28.04289393 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
28.65835655 Ovaören_Topakhöyük_AnatoliaEBA_MA2212

Btw does someone know what IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437 means? I got like 20-30% of that.

Impaler
12-23-2019, 04:13 PM
Target: Impaler
Distance: 1.3715% / 1.37149756
23.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
12.0 LaBrana(Spain)
10.0 Canaanite_ERS1790729
9.6 WC1_Iran
8.6 AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic_Tep003
8.2 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
7.2 CheddarMan
7.0 MezhovskayaLBA_RISE523
7.0 Motala_12(Sweden)
4.8 Hoabinhian_LA368
1.2 Malta
0.6 BronzeAgeSteppe_RISE493
0.4 Carpathian_Oase1


Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.5082% / 4.50817125 | ADC: 0.25x
39.2 Bavaria_STR310
19.6 Canaanite_ERS1790729
11.4 Sunghir6
7.8 Kipchak_DA179
7.0 Carpathian_Oase1
6.6 Loschbour
4.6 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
1.8 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
1.2 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
0.8 LateMedieval_Iranian

Dick
12-23-2019, 05:05 PM
Guys on Eupedia posted Italian IA samples for K15. There are added now.

IA_Civitavecchia_R475,10.71,18.46,6.45,0.00,29.97, 0.00,21.12,7.31,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.58,1.39
IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015,20.18,24.4 7,6.27,0.00,29.55,1.52,15.83,2.17,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1,13.51,25.05,7.9 6,4.94,17.20,9.42,16.80,3.47,0.00,0.00,1.09,0.44,0 .14,0.00,0.00
IA_Ardea_R850,0.39,14.49,7.18,0.00,18.05,19.14,29. 44,9.85,0.00,0.18,0.86,0.13,0.00,0.28,0.00
IA_Ardea_R851,22.08,24.02,10.76,0.00,28.36,2.79,11 .81,0.17,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437,12.48,11.77,5.88,0.00, 23.49,15.70,26.02,4.61,0.00,0.06,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00
IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435,25.40,27.09,5.90,4.5 8,23.79,3.38,7.23,2.08,0.00,0.00,0.35,0.22,0.00,0. 00,0.00
IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016,20.79,22.96,5.82,0.00,29 .90,2.74,16.58,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.22,0.00,0.00, 0.00
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021,19.93,27.14,5.05,0.41,28.4 3,3.42,13.94,1.26,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.41,0.00,0. 00
IA_Civitavecchia_R474,20.28,25.51,8.92,1.58,21.56, 5.11,13.46,2.26,0.00,0.00,0.46,0.45,0.00,0.33,0.09
IA_Civitavecchia_R473,16.32,27.56,8.37,1.35,26.20, 2.87,13.24,4.09,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00

Who are they?

Bosniensis
12-23-2019, 05:29 PM
WHAT IS BAVARIA_STR310

FTDNA


Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 2.0201% / 2.02007412 | ADC: 0.25x
49.4 Sunghir6
17.8 Bavaria_STR310
15.8 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
9.2 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
3.0 IA_Ardea_R850
2.8 Canaanite_ERS1790729
1.4 MENA_GladiatorYork_3DRIF26
0.6 Carpathian_Oase1

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 4.2411% / 4.24111992 | ADC: 0.5x
43.8 Sunghir6
26.4 Bavaria_STR310
26.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
2.8 IA_Ardea_R850
1.0 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437

Bosniensis
12-23-2019, 05:34 PM
60% Slav, 40% Vlach

https://i.imgur.com/QZ6THAv.jpg









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I am just a bit more Vlach like 45% maybe or 50%, but everything else is the same.

Moje ime
12-23-2019, 05:34 PM
https://i.imgur.com/0GoDH6l.png

22% Slav, 26% Celt, 37% Illyrian, 16% Vlach :lightbul:

https://i.imgur.com/u5bxMGt.png

Bosniensis
12-23-2019, 05:39 PM
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/0GoDH6l.png[/IG]

22% Slav, 26% Celt, 37% Illyrian, 16% Vlach :lightbul:

https://i.imgur.com/u5bxMGt.png

You seem Slavic in language only.

ProudBrit
12-23-2019, 05:40 PM
Distance to: Me
12.80295278 Sunghir6
14.67257987 HallstattCelt_DA112

Target: Me
Distance: 0.4415% / 0.44151980
47.2 Sunghir6
19.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
10.6 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
5.2 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
3.4 RemedelloCulture_RISE489
3.0 MalakPreslavets_I0700
2.4 ChalcolithicAgeAnatolian
2.4 SatsurbliaCHG
1.8 Kura_Araxes
1.6 Motala_12(Sweden)
1.0 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
1.0 RemedelloCulture_RISE487
0.4 XiongNu_DA43
0.2 NeolithicGACFarmer_RISE1168
0.2 Ottoman_MA2195
0.2 Srubnaya_I0232

...Verdict?

Moje ime
12-23-2019, 05:44 PM
You seem Slavic in language only.

I have Schythian sample in top 4, not sure why there is no more Slavic component in distances. Bavaria sample is not clean also.

bained
12-23-2019, 05:44 PM
Target: BaiNed
Distance: 5.6417% / 5.64167578 | ADC: 0.5x
71.6 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
18.8 Sunghir6
4.8 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
3.8 Canaanite_ERS1790729
1.0 ArmeniaCA_I1631

Target: BaiNed
Distance: 2.7334% / 2.73338162 | ADC: 0.25x
53.4 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
21.4 Sunghir6
11.8 Canaanite_ERS1790729
7.8 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
5.6 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871

Salve citizens

Bosniensis
12-23-2019, 05:46 PM
I have Schythian sample in top 4, not sure why there is no more Slavic component in distances. Bavaria sample is not clean also.

My single score without DIST COL...

28.4 Sunghir6
8.0 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
7.0 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
6.8 Srubnaya_I0232
6.0 LaBrana(Spain)
5.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
4.8 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
4.0 AnatolianEF_I0746
3.8 NE1_Starcevo(Hungary)
3.4 Motala_12(Sweden)
2.8 AnatolianEF_I0707
2.6 AnatolianEF_I0709
2.6 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
1.8 CovachadelAngel_COV20126
1.6 RemedelloCulture_RISE487
1.2 AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic_Tep003
1.0 Andronovo_RISE500
1.0 Hoabinhian_LA368
1.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
0.6 IA_Ardea_R850
0.6 Mota1
0.6 Namazga_DA381
0.6 R1aM417_I6561
0.6 Turkmenistan_IA
0.6 WC1_Iran
0.4 Andronovo_RISE505
0.4 BeakerNorthItaly_I2477
0.4 CheddarMan
0.4 LevantPPNB_I0867
0.4 MENA_GladiatorYork_3DRIF26
0.2 AnatolianEF_I1583
0.2 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
0.2 BR2_Hungary
0.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
0.2 Loschbour
0.2 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
0.2 Ovaören_Topakhöyük_AnatoliaEBA_MA2212

Cumansky
12-23-2019, 05:49 PM
Btw does someone know what IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437 means? I got like 20-30% of that.

Italian, you know what I mean, Western Roman

Not Eastern Roman there is a difference, and not Espana Roman either

Bosniensis
12-23-2019, 05:49 PM
I've Removed BAVARIA 310... and got clearer results: (because BAVARIA 310 is mixed)

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 2.0968% / 2.09676878 | ADC: 0.25x
48.6 Sunghir6
20.6 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
18.4 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
5.2 MedievalHungarian_DA199
3.0 Kipchak_DA179
1.8 LateMedieval_Iranian
1.2 Kostenki14
0.8 Canaanite_ERS1790729
0.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

Moje ime
12-23-2019, 05:50 PM
My single score without DIST COL...

28.4 Sunghir6
8.0 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
7.0 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
6.8 Srubnaya_I0232
6.0 LaBrana(Spain)
5.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
4.8 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
4.0 AnatolianEF_I0746
3.8 NE1_Starcevo(Hungary)
3.4 Motala_12(Sweden)
2.8 AnatolianEF_I0707
2.6 AnatolianEF_I0709
2.6 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
1.8 CovachadelAngel_COV20126
1.6 RemedelloCulture_RISE487
1.2 AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic_Tep003
1.0 Andronovo_RISE500
1.0 Hoabinhian_LA368
1.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
0.6 IA_Ardea_R850
0.6 Mota1
0.6 Namazga_DA381
0.6 R1aM417_I6561
0.6 Turkmenistan_IA
0.6 WC1_Iran
0.4 Andronovo_RISE505
0.4 BeakerNorthItaly_I2477
0.4 CheddarMan
0.4 LevantPPNB_I0867
0.4 MENA_GladiatorYork_3DRIF26
0.2 AnatolianEF_I1583
0.2 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
0.2 BR2_Hungary
0.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
0.2 Loschbour
0.2 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
0.2 Ovaören_Topakhöyük_AnatoliaEBA_MA2212

Are Loschbour and LaBrana(Spain) older samples than Sunghir6?

Single score without DIST COL

Target: MI
Distance: 0.1400% / 0.13996033
13.4 Loschbour
12.8 LaBrana(Spain)
11.0 Sunghir6
5.6 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
5.6 KurdistanChalcolithic_I1662
5.6 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
5.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
4.6 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
4.6 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
4.0 CovachadelAngel_COV20126
3.6 EarlyBA_PL_N17
1.6 IA_Ardea_R850
1.6 Motala_12(Sweden)
1.4 ArmeniaCA_I1631
1.4 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1407
1.4 BR2_Hungary
1.4 Kura_Araxes
1.4 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
1.2 Ovaören_Topakhöyük_AnatoliaEBA_MA2212
1.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2200
1.0 MENA_GladiatorYork_3DRIF26
0.8 AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic_Tep003
0.8 ArmenianEBA_I1635
0.8 KurdistanChalcolithic_I1674
0.8 Minoan_Lasithi_I0074
0.6 Andronovo_RISE500
0.6 Minoan_Lasithi_I9005
0.4 AnatolianEF_I0707
0.4 ArmeniaMBA_RISE423
0.4 Canaanite_ERS1790729
0.4 CheddarMan
0.4 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
0.4 UneticeBellBeaker_RISE577
0.2 AnatolianEF_I0709
0.2 Boncuklu002
0.2 Celt_Hinxton1
0.2 CopperAgeNorthAfrican_I4246
0.2 HallstattCelt_DA111
0.2 IA_Civitavecchia_R475
0.2 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
0.2 IberiaMBA_ATP9
0.2 LevantPPNB_I0867
0.2 Mota1
0.2 Mycenaean_I9041
0.2 Poltavka_I0432
0.2 Przeclawice_RISE150
0.2 RemedelloCulture_RISE487
0.2 Sintashta_RISE395
0.2 Srubnaya_I0232
0.2 Srubnaya_I0423
0.2 Yamnaya_RISE548

Dušan
12-23-2019, 05:51 PM
I've Removed BAVARIA 310... and got clearer results: (because BAVARIA 310 is mixed)

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 2.0968% / 2.09676878 | ADC: 0.25x
48.6 Sunghir6
20.6 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
18.4 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
5.2 MedievalHungarian_DA199
3.0 Kipchak_DA179
1.8 LateMedieval_Iranian
1.2 Kostenki14
0.8 Canaanite_ERS1790729
0.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

You have 3% real Turkic genes.

Bosniensis
12-23-2019, 05:53 PM
You have 3% real Turkic genes.

not big deal, Modern Turks have from 10-18% .. still not enough to be a Turk.

vbnetkhio
12-23-2019, 05:57 PM
BAVARIA 310 is mixed


he is an Italian Roman individal burried in Germany i believe

Moje ime
12-23-2019, 05:58 PM
I've Removed BAVARIA 310... and got clearer results: (because BAVARIA 310 is mixed)

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 2.0968% / 2.09676878 | ADC: 0.25x
48.6 Sunghir6
20.6 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
18.4 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
5.2 MedievalHungarian_DA199
3.0 Kipchak_DA179
1.8 LateMedieval_Iranian
1.2 Kostenki14
0.8 Canaanite_ERS1790729
0.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

My result without BAVARIA sample, just getting more central Europe (medieval Hungaria and CzechSlav), probably mixed with Slavs components.

https://i.imgur.com/wi1Xvvm.png

oszkar07
12-23-2019, 06:03 PM
K15 Ancient
No ADC
Target: oszkar
Distance: 0.7692% / 0.76922495
19.4 Andronovo_RISE500
18.6 BronzeAgeOuterHebrides_I2655
13.8 CheddarMan
13.4 Sunghir6
11.4 CovachadelAngel_COV20126
7.6 BeakerBritain_I2443
5.0 JordanEBA_I1705
3.6 Gokturk_DA89
3.2 Srubnaya_I0232
1.6 BeakerNorthItaly_I2478
1.4 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
1.0 IA_Ardea_R850

vbnetkhio
12-23-2019, 06:07 PM
My result without BAVARIA sample, just getting more central Europe (medieval Hungaria and CzechSlav), probably mixed with Slavs components.

https://i.imgur.com/wi1Xvvm.png
i suggest you remove all WHG's and EEfs, results make much more sense then

here's mine:
Distance: 1.3212% / 1.32115056
58.0 Sunghir6 (Slavic)
12.4 MakoCultureHungary_BR1 (proto-Pannonian)
11.0 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073 (Greek)
10.0 IA_Ardea_R850 (Italic)
6.0 Minoan_Lasithi_I0074 (Greek)
1.0 JordanEBA_I1730 (levantine)
1.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206 (Assyrian)
0.4 Bot15 (proto-Indo-Iranian from Kazakhstan)
0.2 GoldenHorde_DA28 (Mongolic)

Moje ime
12-23-2019, 06:08 PM
i suggest you remove all WHG's and EEfs, results make much more sense then

here's mine:
Distance: 1.3212% / 1.32115056
58.0 Sunghir6 (Slavic)
12.4 MakoCultureHungary_BR1 (proto-Pannonian)
11.0 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073 (Greek)
10.0 IA_Ardea_R850 (Italic)
6.0 Minoan_Lasithi_I0074 (Greek)
1.0 JordanEBA_I1730 (levantine)
1.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206 (Assyrian)
0.4 Bot15 (proto-Indo-Iranian from Kazakhstan)
0.2 GoldenHorde_DA28 (Mongolic)

What exactly to remove?

Bosniensis
12-23-2019, 06:09 PM
My result without BAVARIA sample, just getting more central Europe (medieval Hungaria and CzechSlav), probably mixed with Slavs components.

https://i.imgur.com/wi1Xvvm.png

How times have changed.

When I spoke in 2014 and 2015 about Roman ancestry of South Slavs, I was ridiculed as a complete mad man. Noone understood what I was talking about (except few).

People need to understand that ANATOLIANS got 15% Turkic admixture after 1000 years of mixing with Turks, yet we have 40%+ Roman/Vlach admixture.. Go figure.

vbnetkhio
12-23-2019, 06:11 PM
What exactly to remove?

search the sample names here, if they are older than 3500 bc, remove them
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/ancient-human-dna_41837#3/38.62/90.88

Impaler
12-23-2019, 06:19 PM
Without Bavaria. So mixed, a bit of everything. :icon_biggrin:

Target: Impaler
Distance: 1.4256% / 1.42561753
25.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
14.6 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
10.2 CheddarMan
9.8 Canaanite_ERS1790729
9.2 WC1_Iran
7.4 AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic_Tep003
5.6 Srubnaya_I0423
5.2 Hoabinhian_LA368
3.8 Poltavka_I0432
3.6 Motala_12(Sweden)
2.2 BronzeAgeSteppe_RISE493
1.8 Malta
1.2 Srubnaya_I0232
0.4 Carpathian_Oase1



Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.4564% / 4.45638909 | ADC: 0.25x
25.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
16.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
12.4 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
9.4 Kipchak_DA179
8.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
8.0 GoyetQ116_1
4.6 LateMedieval_Iranian
4.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
4.0 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
3.6 Carpathian_Oase1
2.2 Crimean_Goth_KER1
1.4 Kangju_DA125

Ritz06
12-23-2019, 06:20 PM
MDLP 11

Distance to: ritz06
11.79216265 Hungary_IronAge
16.88055686 Armenia_LBA
19.25952492 Armenia_Chalcolithic
19.43652747 Irish_BA
19.69511615 Bell_Beaker
19.85061712 Nordic_BattleAxe
20.78618772 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN
20.88622273 Unetice_MBA
22.32341596 Alberstedt_LN
22.38633735 Armenia_MBA
22.45769801 Armenia_MLBA
22.74725698 Nordic_MN_B
22.79114960 Nordic_LN
22.92429715 British_Celtic
23.39279590 Bell_Beaker_Germany
24.15183016 Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland
24.40206549 Halberstadt_LBA
24.51363090 Crete_Armenoi_I9123
24.84647259 Nordic_IA
24.85437788 Bell_Beaker_Czech
24.99318507 Unetice_EBA
25.37480837 British_IronAge
25.40289157 Corded_Ware_Estonia
25.64458227 Russia_IA
25.97426996 Scythian_IA

Target: ritz06
Distance: 0.3517% / 0.35169570
31.8 Bell_Beaker
21.4 Armenia_MLBA
14.2 Minoan_Lasithi_I0070
11.8 Paglicci108_Gravettian
6.0 Kotias_CHG
4.4 Iran_Chalcolithic
3.0 Corded_Ware_Chalcolithic
2.8 Minoan_Odigitria_I9127
2.0 Alberstedt_LN
1.6 Levant_BA
0.8 Iron_Age
0.2 Botocudo_Amerindian

Impaler
12-23-2019, 06:25 PM
What is CheddarMan?

Dick
12-23-2019, 06:34 PM
What is CheddarMan?

Cumanskys great grandfather

Moje ime
12-23-2019, 06:37 PM
search the sample names here, if they are older than 3500 bc, remove them
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/ancient-human-dna_41837#3/38.62/90.88

Too much work :D

Anyway even if I remove old samples and get more Slavic new ones then obviously what is currently known as most "Slavic" is probably half old European in genetic sense, not Slavic Asian-like.

Helen
12-23-2019, 06:40 PM
EUtest
Distance to: Helena
4.44344461 Portuguese
4.64563236 Spanish
9.51256012 North_Italian
11.22652217 French
14.11217914 Tuscan
18.33255847 Kosovar_1
20.48502868 Albanian_1
20.59014327 French_Basque
20.61272180 Austrian
21.07704913 Cornish
21.63019649 Bulgarian_1
21.77137111 West_&_Central_German
22.23876795 Dutch
22.44789300 English
22.67051168 Romanian
22.83770347 Serbian
24.26528796 Maltese_1
24.49370736 Orcadian
24.68484353 Hungarian
24.69897771 Irish
25.40032480 Scottish
26.01374829 South_Italian_&_Sicilian
26.09019116 SerbianBosnia
26.19161889 Danish
27.07351473 Slovenian_1

Target: Helena
Distance: 2.5291% / 2.52910057
62.2 Portuguese
18.4 French_Basque
8.6 Spanish
7.4 Druze
3.2 Tuscan
0.2 South_Indian
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
K13
Distance to: Helena
2.98536430 Spanish_Extremadura
3.30517776 Spanish_Andalucia
4.43253878 Portuguese
4.73093014 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
4.85273119 Spanish_Murcia
5.16543319 Spanish_Galicia
5.27676037 Spanish_Valencia
5.43370040 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
6.07916935 Spanish_Cataluna
6.97528494 Spanish_Cantabria
8.18527947 Spanish_Aragon
9.14620140 North_Italian
9.35904910 Southwest_French
9.43312780 Swiss_Italian
13.32284504 French
14.57673489 Swiss_French
16.11432282 Tuscan
17.15288022 Swiss_German
20.25564859 South_Dutch
20.27124071 West_German
21.33221273 French_Basque
21.81166938 Kosovo_Albanian
22.07629498 Albanian
22.14936300 North_Macedonian
22.99224000 Bosniak_Sandzak

Target: Helena
Distance: 0.4080% / 0.40797249
21.4 French_Basque
18.4 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
11.8 Sardinian
11.8 Southwest_English
8.6 Tuscan
7.2 Swiss_Italian
4.2 Austrian
3.8 Spanish_Aragon
2.8 Ethiopian_Tigray
2.2 Greek_Caucasus
2.0 Moroccan_Jew
2.0 North_Italian
1.0 Georgian_imereti
1.0 Samaritan
0.4 Balochi
0.4 Papuan
0.4 Southwest_French
0.2 Albanian
0.2 Saudi
0.2 Yemenite_Jewish

Dušan
12-23-2019, 06:40 PM
Too much work :D

Anyway even if I remove old samples and get more Slavic new ones then obviously what is currently known as most "Slavic" is probably half old European in genetic sense, not Slavic Asian-like.

You are western - Celtic influenced.
I don't understand how is that practically Serbian average on all these calculators, since you get us on very close distance.

Dick
12-23-2019, 06:58 PM
How times have changed.

When I spoke in 2014 and 2015 about Roman ancestry of South Slavs, I was ridiculed as a complete mad man. Noone understood what I was talking about (except few).

People need to understand that ANATOLIANS got 15% Turkic admixture after 1000 years of mixing with Turks, yet we have 40%+ Roman/Vlach admixture.. Go figure.

You are correct Doctor but you’re still our favourite mad man

Dick
12-23-2019, 06:59 PM
i suggest you remove all WHG's and EEfs, results make much more sense then

here's mine:
Distance: 1.3212% / 1.32115056
58.0 Sunghir6 (Slavic)
12.4 MakoCultureHungary_BR1 (proto-Pannonian)
11.0 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073 (Greek)
10.0 IA_Ardea_R850 (Italic)
6.0 Minoan_Lasithi_I0074 (Greek)
1.0 JordanEBA_I1730 (levantine)
1.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206 (Assyrian)
0.4 Bot15 (proto-Indo-Iranian from Kazakhstan)
0.2 GoldenHorde_DA28 (Mongolic)
The MesolithicNeolithicSerbia is whg as well?

Moje ime
12-23-2019, 06:59 PM
You are western - Celtic influenced.
I don't understand how is that practically Serbian average on all these calculators, since you get us on very close distance.

I'm not that much on average Serbian result, more western of it.
But I'd say that besides western Celtic influence I have some more southern influence also (may be from my eastern Serbian part of ancestry) so it pulls me towards average, north-west - south-east, instead of north-east - south-east as more Slavic influenced results.

Dick
12-23-2019, 07:05 PM
Distance to: MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871

10.92870990 Ajvide58(Sweden)
12.29909753 Motala_12(Sweden)
14.74329339 EarlyBA_PL_N17
15.05179059 CheddarMan
16.40700765 Srubnaya_I0232
17.07114232 NeolithicUkraine_I1736
19.48313373 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
21.63801054 Sintashta_RISE395
21.99648836 Poltavka_I0432
22.10142077 Srubnaya_I0423
22.36443158 HallstattCelt_DA112
22.52394726 Sunghir6
22.64208250 BronzAgeSilesian_I6531
23.50864735 Cimmerian_Cim357
23.52413229 Potapovka_I0419
24.18372593 BronzAgeBulgarian
24.38725897 Srubnaya_I0430
24.45715846 MezhovskayaLBA_RISE523
24.78054681 Sintashta_RISE386
25.04354807 Andronovo_RISE500
25.27060941 R1aM417_I6561
25.29726072 MigrationPeriod_DA119
26.16786006 Andronovo_RISE505
26.57602491 BeakerBritain_I2443
27.15514132 BronzeAgeNetherlands_I4070


Target: MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871

Distance: 4.0647% / 4.06469002
54.0 Motala_12(Sweden)
43.8 CheddarMan
2.2 Sunghir6

Bosniensis
12-23-2019, 07:09 PM
You are correct Doctor but you’re still our favourite mad man

:fponder::fponder:

Bosniensis
12-23-2019, 07:17 PM
How do Albanians match with those new samples from Rome and Etruria?

Jana
12-23-2019, 07:33 PM
My dad K15 - he is typical Croat with definite 10% of Germanic influence - maybe from his NW Croat part.

Target: Tata
Distance: 5.5563% / 5.55628649

78.8 Croat_Bosnia
9.4 West_Norwegian
5.8 Latvian
5.4 Cypriot
0.6 Dai


Distance to: Tata

5.75903095 Croat_Bosnia
8.09269424 Hungarian
9.81268917 Serbian_Bosnia
9.99442546 Slovak
10.14827913 Bosnian
10.19808806 Moldavian
10.37379020 Slovenian
11.32086127 Romania_Nw
11.48047037 Bosniak
12.04427157 Montenegrin
12.06229249 Romania_Se
12.07615833 Croatian
12.09246770 Szekely
12.12709363 Austria-Burgenland
12.15950657 Serbian
12.20239731 Romania_Ne
12.20737892 Czech
12.55065735 Kaykavian_Croatian
12.57529324 Romania_Sw
12.83398613 South_Serbian
13.11885285 Ukrainian_Lviv
13.64938826 East_German
13.93325518 Romania_South
14.15974223 Ukrainian
14.50487849 Romanian

nittionia
12-23-2019, 07:34 PM
here is my dad's k15 ancient, not sure what all of it means
https://i.imgur.com/yc0T4di.png

Jana
12-23-2019, 07:38 PM
The MesolithicNeolithicSerbia is whg as well?

Yes, my family gets a lot of it. We get extremelly weird results at K15 ancient, more than 50% WHG. Very unrealistic.

Target: MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
Distance: 4.0647% / 4.06469002

54.0 Motala_12(Sweden)
43.8 CheddarMan
2.2 Sunghir6

Jana
12-23-2019, 07:41 PM
According to this, my father is almost 60% Hunter Gatherer. No European alive comes close to this results. Very innacurate calculator.

Target: Feiichy_Father
Distance: 0.9039% / 0.90390937

39.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
19.6 Motala_12(Sweden)
16.8 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
10.0 MalakPreslavets_I0700
6.4 Kura_Araxes
4.4 Mycenaean_I9006
1.4 UkrainianNeolithicFarmer_I1926
0.8 KennewickMan
0.6 Han00774
0.6 LateNeolithicBronzeAgeLaos_LA364

vbnetkhio
12-23-2019, 07:49 PM
Too much work :D

Anyway even if I remove old samples and get more Slavic new ones then obviously what is currently known as most "Slavic" is probably half old European in genetic sense, not Slavic Asian-like.

send me your results, i'll do it

Lucas
12-23-2019, 07:50 PM
According to this, my father is almost 60% Hunter Gatherer. No European alive comes close to this results. Very innacurate calculator.

Target: Feiichy_Father
Distance: 0.9039% / 0.90390937

39.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
19.6 Motala_12(Sweden)
16.8 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
10.0 MalakPreslavets_I0700
6.4 Kura_Araxes
4.4 Mycenaean_I9006
1.4 UkrainianNeolithicFarmer_I1926
0.8 KennewickMan
0.6 Han00774
0.6 LateNeolithicBronzeAgeLaos_LA364

It needs more samples. Maybe some users post K15 results for more ancients.

Dick
12-23-2019, 08:06 PM
According to this, my father is almost 60% Hunter Gatherer. No European alive comes close to this results. Very innacurate calculator.

Target: Feiichy_Father
Distance: 0.9039% / 0.90390937

39.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
19.6 Motala_12(Sweden)
16.8 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
10.0 MalakPreslavets_I0700
6.4 Kura_Araxes
4.4 Mycenaean_I9006
1.4 UkrainianNeolithicFarmer_I1926
0.8 KennewickMan
0.6 Han00774
0.6 LateNeolithicBronzeAgeLaos_LA364

Sometimes things aren’t what they seem. Europeans to get indigenous huntergathers is not odd anyway. It would be odd if an African or Asian would get a lot of it for example.Maybe steppe is blown out of proportion by those R1a supremacists. Anyway it’s the components giving your dad those results not actual IBD

Hapanuwa
12-23-2019, 09:09 PM
Italian, you know what I mean, Western Roman

Not Eastern Roman there is a difference, and not Espana Roman either

Interesting. That might be why MyHeritage guessed me 23% Italian

Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 3.6784% / 3.67837512 | ADC: 0.25x
23.6 ArmeniaCA_I1631
22.0 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
14.2 Kipchak_DA179
11.2 Ottoman_MA2196
10.8 Mycenaean_I9006
7.0 Canaanite_ERS1790730
7.0 CopperAgeIran_I4241
1.4 XiongNu_DA43
1.2 Bot15
1.0 Neolithic_Baikal
0.6 ScythianPazyryk

Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 3.8198% / 3.81975217 | ADC: 0.25x
50.2 Turkish_Balikesir
15.2 Turkish_Aydin
14.0 Greek_Thessaly
7.4 Libyan_Jewish
6.6 Armenian_West
4.4 Greek_Trabzon
2.2 Dai

oszkar07
12-23-2019, 09:30 PM
K15

Distance to: oszkar

6.87427087 East_German
6.88224527 Austrian
8.59164711 Austria-Burgenland
8.91605294 Kaykavian_Croatian
9.15397728 Czech
9.87696816 German_Bavarian
10.50876301 South_Dutch
10.61092362 North_German
10.93467174 Slovenian
11.15747731 Hungarian
12.04159873 Southwest_Finnish
12.44520791 Austria-Tyrol
12.61873607 Aland_Sweden
13.02908957 Szekely
13.23820411 Slovak
13.40729652 Croatian
13.45271720 Belgium
14.73541991 French
14.75814351 West_German
14.90377469 Southeast_English
14.96598142 Dutch
15.12921346 Southwest_English
15.16603442 North_Swedish
15.19106316 Serbian
15.22010184 North_Dutch
15.29343650 England
15.35767520 Croat_Bosnia
15.36494061 South_Polish
15.39503167 Irish
15.50531844 North_Swedish
15.84412825 Finnish
16.05960052 Serbian_Bosnia
16.08661245 Swedish
16.14846432 Polish
16.23223028 West_Scottish
16.42597942 Bosniak
16.52105626 Scotland
16.62838537 Danish
16.65452491 Norway
16.69127105 Bosnian

oszkar07
12-23-2019, 09:35 PM
Is Andronovo_RISE500 from Russia/Siberia or Steppe ?

Ritz06
12-24-2019, 05:44 AM
PuntDNAL K13 Global

Distance to: rits06
11.11404967 Romanian
11.97881881 Bulgarian
13.15454674 Montenegrin
13.56805439 Kosovar
13.61110209 Macedonian
13.82541500 Greek_Thessaly
13.98578207 Albanian
14.91952077 Serbian
15.13975231 Greek_Central
17.15814967 Italian_Tuscan
17.55625530 Bosnian
17.80567606 Moldavian
18.65856640 Kumyk
18.67570882 Italian_Abruzzo
20.24949629 Croatian
20.31802402 Ashkenazy_Jew
20.42405689 Romani
20.47100633 Turkish_Aydin
21.00243081 Chechen
21.00980961 Balkar
21.28619506 Italian_Bergamo
21.46280737 Nogay
21.91739264 Italian_Sicilian
22.23313068 Hungarian
22.27806320 Turkish

Target: rits06
Distance: 0.3933% / 0.39333955
28.8 Scottish
12.4 Chechen
11.0 Abkhasian
11.0 Armenian
10.2 Norwegian
6.6 Makrani
6.2 Bosnian
5.0 Montenegrin
4.4 She
1.0 Bulgarian
1.0 Turkish_Trabzon
0.8 African_American
0.8 Japanese
0.4 Ecuadorian
0.2 Biaka_Pygmy
0.2 Yoruba

vbnetkhio
12-24-2019, 09:46 AM
Too much work :D

Anyway even if I remove old samples and get more Slavic new ones then obviously what is currently known as most "Slavic" is probably half old European in genetic sense, not Slavic Asian-like.

https://i.imgur.com/U8KlYTs.png

Thracian
12-24-2019, 10:17 AM
According to this, my father is almost 60% Hunter Gatherer. No European alive comes close to this results. Very innacurate calculator.

Target: Feiichy_Father
Distance: 0.9039% / 0.90390937

39.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
19.6 Motala_12(Sweden)
16.8 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
10.0 MalakPreslavets_I0700
6.4 Kura_Araxes
4.4 Mycenaean_I9006
1.4 UkrainianNeolithicFarmer_I1926
0.8 KennewickMan
0.6 Han00774
0.6 LateNeolithicBronzeAgeLaos_LA364

Here is the Gedmatch kit# for this sample Z76183.

It is not a pure HG but also around 20% Anatolian_NF on PuntDNAL k12. Also here is Eurogenes K15,

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 36.98
2 Baltic 33.42
3 Eastern_Euro 16.01
4 Atlantic 13.4
5 Oceanian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Estonian 11.15
2 Finnish 14.2
3 Lithuanian 15.59
4 Southwest_Finnish 15.82
5 Polish 15.96
6 Ukrainian 16.04
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.19
8 South_Polish 16.55
9 Belorussian 16.65
10 North_Swedish 17.45
11 East_Finnish 17.74
12 Estonian_Polish 17.91
13 Southwest_Russian 18.06
14 Russian_Smolensk 18.31
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.74
16 Swedish 18.94
17 La_Brana-1 18.96
18 Hungarian 20.34
19 Kargopol_Russian 20.52
20 East_German 20.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.2% Estonian + 20.8% Swedish @ 10.34
2 83.3% Estonian + 16.7% West_Norwegian @ 10.41
3 84.1% Estonian + 15.9% Norwegian @ 10.61
4 82.3% Estonian + 17.7% North_Swedish @ 10.75
5 58.1% Lithuanian + 41.9% Swedish @ 10.82
6 89.7% Estonian + 10.3% North_Dutch @ 10.89
7 63.9% Lithuanian + 36.1% West_Norwegian @ 10.92
8 92% Estonian + 8% Orcadian @ 10.93
9 92.3% Estonian + 7.7% Danish @ 11.01
10 93.5% Estonian + 6.5% West_Scottish @ 11.03
11 93.9% Estonian + 6.1% Irish @ 11.04
12 94.8% Estonian + 5.2% West_German @ 11.08
13 95.8% Estonian + 4.2% Southeast_English @ 11.1
14 95.4% Estonian + 4.6% North_German @ 11.11
15 96.4% Estonian + 3.6% Southwest_English @ 11.11
16 100% Estonian + 0% Abhkasian @ 11.15
17 100% Estonian + 0% Adygei @ 11.15
18 100% Estonian + 0% Afghan_Hazara @ 11.15
19 100% Estonian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 11.15
20 100% Estonian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 11.15


I think, you can consider it as a Balto-Slavic component. On the other hand, obviously this calculator needs more sample.

Thracian
12-24-2019, 10:22 AM
Is Andronovo_RISE500 from Russia/Siberia or Steppe ?

It is from Steppe.

You can use this website to find all ancient samples using their labels (for example you can write RISE500).

https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/ancient-human-dna_41837#4/57.68/94.48

harutsafaryan07
12-24-2019, 10:52 AM
For K13

Georgian_Adjara,1.68,0.59,11.89,51.88,29.90,1.47,0 .73,0.72,0.15,0,0.80,0,0.16

Also updated Georgian_Imereti,2.30,2.04,11.49,54.97,24.03,1.57, 2.11,0.50,0.10,0,0.59,0.03,0.2

And Russian_Ryazan,27.07,46.41,6.59,6.54,4.12,0.48,2.3 5,0.48,3.71,1.13,0.45,0.24,0.38

Moje ime
12-24-2019, 03:40 PM
https://i.imgur.com/U8KlYTs.png

Thanks.

I guess EarlyCzechSlav is already a mixed sample.

Do you have more information about first three samples?

Dušan
12-24-2019, 03:48 PM
Thanks.

I guess EarlyCzechSlav is already a mixed sample.

Do you have more information about first three samples?

Distance to: EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
9.99079576 Czech
11.11255596 East_German
12.46989520 Slovak
13.11924922 Kaykavian_Croatian
13.27390992 Slovenian
13.28184475 Southwest_Finnish
13.29473956 South_Polish
13.59641865 Polish
13.64995238 Hungarian
13.76336441 Aland_Sweden
14.20601281 Ukrainian_Lviv
14.30546399 Austria-Burgenland
14.45979945 Ukrainian
14.91652775 Austrian
15.40697569 Finnish
15.45475008 Croatian
15.98352902 Estonian
16.90447870 North_German
16.99111238 Russian_Smolensk
17.00759536 North_Swedish
17.12381930 Croat_Bosnia
17.21396526 North_Swedish
17.53590032 Belorussian
17.86457388 German_Bavarian
17.88657038 Swedish

Target: EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
Distance: 6.6830% / 6.68300520
51.4 Lithuanian
29.4 West_Norwegian
15.6 French_Basque
3.6 Sardinian



.......


Distance to: Crimean_Goth_KER1
13.46122208 Turkish_Anatolia
14.19306873 Turkish_Adana
14.64278662 Turkish_Balikesir
14.97216751 Italy_Abruzzo
15.09141478 Turkish_Aydin
15.14365214 Turkish_Kayseri
15.76947685 Central_Greek
16.00809170 Greek_Crete
16.32179524 Italy_Apulia
17.03863551 East_Sicilian
17.18011932 Italy_Campania
17.23770866 South_Italian
17.29717896 Italy_East_Sicily
17.54868941 Italy_Calabria
17.58816079 Italy_Central_Sicily
17.84479931 GR_Peloponese
17.87770399 Ashkenazi
17.97465438 Italy_West_Sicily
18.37894447 Azerbaijani
18.75966092 GR_Macedonia
19.56597046 Armenian_East
19.60593278 Turkish_East
19.88625656 Greek
20.02026224 West_Sicilian
20.36414987 Italy_Marche

Target: Crimean_Goth_KER1
Distance: 1.9397% / 1.93966547
31.4 Turkish_Trabzon
22.6 West_Scottish
17.6 Iraqi_Jew
12.0 Georgian_Laz
10.8 French_Basque
3.2 Abhkasian
1.0 Karitiana
0.8 Kumyk
0.4 Orcadian
0.2 Evens



.........

Distance to: KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
14.85291217 Cypriot
15.66164742 Algerian_Jewish
16.16359180 Sephardic_Jewish
16.56052233 Italy_Calabria
16.61737344 Tunisian_Jewish
16.75533050 Italian_Jewish
16.82725171 Italy_East_Sicily
17.13797538 South_Italian
17.46657093 Italy_Campania
18.02563175 Italy_West_Sicily
18.54460568 Italy_Central_Sicily
19.00418901 Greek_Crete
20.07698184 Italy_Apulia
20.91620185 Libyan_Jewish
20.97267270 Central_Greek
21.06645438 East_Sicilian
21.21476373 Lebanese_Christian
21.22917097 Lebanese_Muslim
21.34344162 West_Sicilian
21.71830104 Italy_Abruzzo
23.19390868 Samaritan
23.91846985 Palestinian
24.04043469 Ashkenazi
24.23031572 Lebanese_Druze
24.76015347 Syrian

Target: KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
Distance: 9.5125% / 9.51250394
31.4 Iraqi_Jew
29.0 Cypriot
27.4 Sardinian
7.2 French_Basque
5.0 Turkish_Trabzon

Dušan
12-24-2019, 04:01 PM
Simply put certain K15 ancient sample into target of K15 updated, and you can find its mix of modern population.

vbnetkhio
12-24-2019, 04:06 PM
Thanks.

I guess EarlyCzechSlav is already a mixed sample.

Do you have more information about first three samples?

first 2 samples are mixed, it doesn't work well without them because there isn't enough good samples in the spreadsheet.

Czech is Slavic+Celto-Germanic, and the Goth is Germanic+ Middle Eastern and Anatolian.
the rest is Middle Eastern, except Sunghir who is a pure Slav and Hebrides is similar to Germanics.

So it seems that your non-Slavic and non-Germanic part is mostly Middle Eastern, and not native Balkanic, at least in this calculator.

Moje ime
12-24-2019, 04:10 PM
So it seems that your non-Slavic and non-Germanic part is mostly Middle Eastern, and not native Balkanic, at least in this calculator.

How that could be?

I think all my non-Slavic admixture must've once been a part of native Balkan people.

Dick
12-24-2019, 04:18 PM
first 2 samples are mixed, it doesn't work well without them because there isn't enough good samples in the spreadsheet.

Czech is Slavic+Celto-Germanic, and the Goth is Germanic+ Middle Eastern and Anatolian.
the rest is Middle Eastern, except Sunghir who is a pure Slav and Hebrides is similar to Germanics.

So it seems that your non-Slavic and non-Germanic part is mostly Middle Eastern, and not native Balkanic, at least in this calculator.

Did you remove the non European Ancients ? Why not make all samples circa early Middle Ages like early Czech

vbnetkhio
12-24-2019, 04:19 PM
How that could be?

imo k15 isn't such a good calculator. maybe it's just wrong for you.

this is what you get in k13, that's probably the most accurate one:
91.2% Serbian + 8.8% North_German @ 2.24

so you have everything that's normal for Serbs, + some extra Germanic.

Moje ime
12-24-2019, 04:24 PM
Crimean Goths are interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Goths

Crimean Goths were Greuthungi-Gothic tribes who remained in the lands around the Black Sea, especially in Crimea. They were the least-known and the longest-lasting of the Gothic communities.

vbnetkhio
12-24-2019, 04:25 PM
Did you remove the non European Ancients ?
no, just the very old ones


Why not make all samples circa early Middle Ages like early Czech

there isn't enough samples in the sheet for that. i think there are no iron age or medieval Germanics, just bronze age

Dick
12-24-2019, 04:27 PM
no, just the very old ones



there isn't enough samples in the sheet for that. i think there are no iron age or medieval Germanics, just bronze age

Then it belongs in the trash compactor

Moje ime
12-24-2019, 04:28 PM
first 2 samples are mixed, it doesn't work well without them because there isn't enough good samples in the spreadsheet.

Czech is Slavic+Celto-Germanic, and the Goth is Germanic+ Middle Eastern and Anatolian.
the rest is Middle Eastern, except Sunghir who is a pure Slav and Hebrides is similar to Germanics.

So it seems that your non-Slavic and non-Germanic part is mostly Middle Eastern, and not native Balkanic, at least in this calculator.

Btw aren't those distances just a model that shows how far my result is among all those spots/samples, not actual admixture of those samples? Like when calculators show 50% Greek + 50% Russian for South Slavs but that is just a distance, not actual mix.

vbnetkhio
12-24-2019, 04:43 PM
Btw aren't those distances just a model that shows how far my result is among all those spots/samples, not actual admixture of those samples? Like when calculators show 50% Greek + 50% Russian for South Slavs but that is just a distance, not actual mix.

no, these are distances:
https://i.imgur.com/0GoDH6l.png

the models attempt to show admixture. 50% Greek + 50% Russian can also mean 50% something similar to Greeks (Thracians etc.) and 50% something similar to Russians. or it could just be wrong in some cases. depends on how good is the calculator and the spreadsheet.

Moje ime
12-24-2019, 05:45 PM
mine:
https://i.imgur.com/2DmNZiS.png

https://i.imgur.com/0oTlIhU.png
here Sunghir6 represents my Slavic admixture, and the rest is a breakdown of my non-Slavic admixture.

You actually have similar result as I with non-Slavic ancestry represented with Anatolian and Kurdish samples.

It seems it appears for all more southern parts of Balkan ancestry like from Montenegro or Bulgaria.
Try with any more southern shifted Serbian result I think it will be the same.

Dušan
12-24-2019, 05:47 PM
You actually have similar result as I with non-Slavic ancestry represented with Anatolian and Kurdish samples.

It seems it appears for all more southern parts of Balkan ancestry like from Montenegro or Bulgaria.
Try with any more southern shifted Serbian result I think it will be the same.

Try x0.25 x0.5. Maybe you will get Italy then.

Ford
12-24-2019, 05:57 PM
K15 Ancient

Distance to: Ford
15.74004765 BR2_Hungary
16.05211513 MedievalHungarian_DA199
16.84800582 HallstattCelt_DA112
17.71231492 Sunghir6
18.90201577 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
18.93118855 Bavaria_STR310
19.79657799 Ostuni1
20.38105002 Scythian_SCY311
21.42811004 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
21.67663950 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
22.01707065 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
23.00348669 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
23.13961106 EarlyBA_PL_N17
23.50812625 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
23.93767741 Srubnaya_I0232
24.13461207 BronzAgeBalkan
24.28246898 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
24.52970037 BeakerBritain_I2443
24.77056317 IA_Ardea_R851
24.80518897 Andronovo_RISE505
25.47298373 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
25.70441207 Scythian_I0247
25.76330918 MigrationPeriod_DA119
25.99076759 Andronovo_RISE500
26.06695418 IA_Civitavecchia_R473

Target: Ford
Distance: 0.6590% / 0.65900650
31.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
31.0 Sunghir6
24.0 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
7.6 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
1.6 ArmenianEBA_I1633
1.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
1.2 KurdistanChalcolithic_I1662
0.8 GoldenHorde_DA28
0.6 Kura_Araxes
0.4 ChalcolithicIranian

Moje ime
12-24-2019, 06:19 PM
K15 Ancient

Distance to: Ford
15.74004765 BR2_Hungary
16.05211513 MedievalHungarian_DA199
16.84800582 HallstattCelt_DA112
17.71231492 Sunghir6
18.90201577 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
18.93118855 Bavaria_STR310
19.79657799 Ostuni1
20.38105002 Scythian_SCY311
21.42811004 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
21.67663950 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
22.01707065 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
23.00348669 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
23.13961106 EarlyBA_PL_N17
23.50812625 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
23.93767741 Srubnaya_I0232
24.13461207 BronzAgeBalkan
24.28246898 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
24.52970037 BeakerBritain_I2443
24.77056317 IA_Ardea_R851
24.80518897 Andronovo_RISE505
25.47298373 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
25.70441207 Scythian_I0247
25.76330918 MigrationPeriod_DA119
25.99076759 Andronovo_RISE500
26.06695418 IA_Civitavecchia_R473

Target: Ford
Distance: 0.6590% / 0.65900650
31.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
31.0 Sunghir6
24.0 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
7.6 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
1.6 ArmenianEBA_I1633
1.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
1.2 KurdistanChalcolithic_I1662
0.8 GoldenHorde_DA28
0.6 Kura_Araxes
0.4 ChalcolithicIranian

See - Armenia, Kurdistan, similar as in my and vbnetkhio results, like I said it will obviously show up for any Serbian southeastern part of K15 result. Dusan probably is really much northern shifted so it doesn't appear. It's ancient admixture.

Does someone have K15 average result for Serbs?

Dick
12-24-2019, 06:21 PM
no, these are distances:
https://i.imgur.com/0GoDH6l.png

the models attempt to show admixture. 50% Greek + 50% Russian can also mean 50% something similar to Greeks (Thracians etc.) and 50% something similar to Russians. or it could just be wrong in some cases. depends on how good is the calculator and the spreadsheet.

Can you run the samples without the very ancient ones(MesolithicNeolithicSerbia etc)


Dick-dad,20.90,11.87,22.52,10.41,11.57,7.07,11.69,1.73, 1.24,0.00,0.00,0.47,0.53,0.00,0.00

Bosniensis
12-24-2019, 06:25 PM
Can you run the samples without the very ancient ones(MesolithicNeolithicSerbia etc)


Dick-dad,20.90,11.87,22.52,10.41,11.57,7.07,11.69,1.73, 1.24,0.00,0.00,0.47,0.53,0.00,0.00

Is there Bavaria_STR310 gedmatch ID somewhere? I would like to compare it with other samples to see how mixed it is?

Dušan
12-24-2019, 06:25 PM
See - Armenia, Kurdistan, similar as in my and vbnetkhio results, like I said it will obviously show up for any Serbian southeastern part of K15 result. Dusan probably is really much northern shifted so it doesn't appear. It's ancient admixture.

Does someone have K15 average result for Serbs?

I got some Kurdistan in x0, and Armenia in x0.25, too.

https://i.imgur.com/vUzRuVI.jpg

Moje ime
12-24-2019, 06:27 PM
What would be Illyrian and Thracian samples in this calculator?

Lemgrant
12-24-2019, 06:29 PM
Is there Bavaria_STR310 gedmatch ID somewhere? I would like to compare it with other samples to see how mixed it is?

gedmatch kit doesn't work, but some results are there:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?239429-Early-Medieval-Bavaria-GEDmatch-results

Dušan
12-24-2019, 06:31 PM
What would be Illyrian and Thracian samples in this calculator?

IA_Ardea_R850 is simmilar to south Italy, and IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437 is simmilar central Greek, so mostly Thracian.

Moje ime
12-24-2019, 06:31 PM
I got some Kurdistan in x0, and Armenia in x0.25, too.



Early European farmers link.

Bosniensis
12-24-2019, 06:33 PM
gedmatch kit doesn't work, but some results are there:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?239429-Early-Medieval-Bavaria-GEDmatch-results

Bavaria 310 is basically some Serbo-Romanian, which is why it should be deleted for users from these countries for more precise results.

STR_310
Kit Num: XD9213159

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 22.46
2 West_Med 15.56
3 Atlantic 15.32
4 West_Asian 15.13
5 East_Med 12.84
6 Baltic 7.21
7 Eastern_Euro 6.02
8 South_Asian 2.50
9 Siberian 1.60

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanian @ 13.227316
2 Serbian @ 14.062373
3 Bulgarian @ 14.960536
4 Greek_Thessaly @ 14.987457
5 North_Italian @ 15.134516
6 Tuscan @ 15.288332
7 French @ 17.577585
8 Italian_Abruzzo @ 17.636278
9 Spanish_Galicia @ 18.357292
10 Greek @ 18.488604
11 Portuguese @ 18.876575
12 West_German @ 19.003679
13 Hungarian @ 19.464031
14 Moldavian @ 19.908852
15 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.983706
16 Central_Greek @ 20.017752
17 Austrian @ 20.104549
18 Spanish_Extremadura @ 20.133909
19 South_Dutch @ 20.294052
20 East_Sicilian @ 20.829166

Thracian
12-24-2019, 06:33 PM
What would be Illyrian and Thracian samples in this calculator?

BronzAgeBalkan is from Dalmatia, Kit# SZ6386770
IronAgeBalkan is from Bulgaria (aka Thracian sample) Kit# JD6924634

Moje ime
12-24-2019, 06:34 PM
BronzAgeBalkan is from Dalmatia, Kit# SZ6386770


I got that.

Thracian
12-24-2019, 06:41 PM
I got that.

What did you get when you tried with 0.25X?

Moje ime
12-24-2019, 06:50 PM
What did you get when you tried with 0.25X?

Target: MI
Distance: 2.3308% / 2.33081040 | ADC: 0.25x
32.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
30.0 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
19.8 ArmeniaCA_I1631
8.4 Sunghir6
5.4 CheddarMan
2.6 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
1.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
0.6 Srubnaya_I0232

vbnetkhio
12-24-2019, 06:51 PM
Can you run the samples without the very ancient ones(MesolithicNeolithicSerbia etc)


Dick-dad,20.90,11.87,22.52,10.41,11.57,7.07,11.69,1.73, 1.24,0.00,0.00,0.47,0.53,0.00,0.00

https://i.imgur.com/jE8Apfi.png

Moje ime
12-24-2019, 06:58 PM
first 2 samples are mixed, it doesn't work well without them because there isn't enough good samples in the spreadsheet.

Czech is Slavic+Celto-Germanic, and the Goth is Germanic+ Middle Eastern and Anatolian.
the rest is Middle Eastern, except Sunghir who is a pure Slav and Hebrides is similar to Germanics.

So it seems that your non-Slavic and non-Germanic part is mostly Middle Eastern, and not native Balkanic, at least in this calculator.

So as vbnetkhio said to me in private message, it is not problem with results but with bad calculator.

If there already exist Illyrian and Thracian samples and if I get Illyrian sample BronzAgeBalkan in distances list then it
would have more logic to get it in combined model distances as well instead of those Middle Eastern.

This is message to Lukasz :)

Thracian
12-24-2019, 07:07 PM
Target: MI
Distance: 2.3308% / 2.33081040 | ADC: 0.25x
32.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
30.0 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
19.8 ArmeniaCA_I1631
8.4 Sunghir6
5.4 CheddarMan
2.6 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
1.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
0.6 Srubnaya_I0232

Here is the kit #M926386 if you want to check oracle's. It seems it can be modeled as European+Caucasian and somehow, I usually see many Balkanites get Caucasians. Canaaite is a noise, clearly.

Impaler
12-24-2019, 07:10 PM
Here is the kit #M926386 if you want to check oracle's. It seems it can be modeled as European+Caucasian and somehow, I usually see many Balkanites get Caucasians. Canaaite is a noise, clearly.

This is what I have with 0.25x


Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.5511% / 4.55112800 | ADC: 0.25x
32.8 Bavaria_STR310
17.0 Canaanite_ERS1790729
13.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
9.2 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
7.8 Kipchak_DA179
7.2 Carpathian_Oase1
7.0 Sunghir6
3.6 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
0.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

Teutonski
12-24-2019, 07:11 PM
This is what I have with 0.25x


Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.5511% / 4.55112800 | ADC: 0.25x
32.8 Bavaria_STR310
17.0 Canaanite_ERS1790729
13.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
9.2 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
7.8 Kipchak_DA179
7.2 Carpathian_Oase1
7.0 Sunghir6
3.6 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
0.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

Merry Christmas to you and your family bro

Thracian
12-24-2019, 07:15 PM
This is what I have with 0.25x


Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.5511% / 4.55112800 | ADC: 0.25x
32.8 Bavaria_STR310
17.0 Canaanite_ERS1790729
13.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
9.2 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
7.8 Kipchak_DA179
7.2 Carpathian_Oase1
7.0 Sunghir6
3.6 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.0 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
0.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

This is odd! What you get without Bavaria? I get them including Bavaria. (FTDNA and 23andMe kits, relatively).

Target: Thracian
Distance: 2.6816% / 2.68156609 | ADC: 0.25x
43.8 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
29.8 Sarmatian_Pokrovka_I0575
7.8 IA_Ardea_R850
5.2 Kipchak_DA179
5.0 Sunghir6
4.6 ArmeniaCA_I1631
3.8 JordanEBA_I1705

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 4.5652% / 4.56516557 | ADC: 0.25x
49.2 IA_Ardea_R850
16.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
13.6 Sunghir6
11.4 Ottoman_MA2196
4.4 WC1_Iran
3.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
1.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955

Impaler
12-24-2019, 07:26 PM
Merry Christmas to you and your family bro

Same to you, my German friend. :)

Impaler
12-24-2019, 07:27 PM
This is odd! What you get without Bavaria? I get them including Bavaria. (FTDNA and 23andMe kits, relatively).

Target: Thracian
Distance: 2.6816% / 2.68156609 | ADC: 0.25x
43.8 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
29.8 Sarmatian_Pokrovka_I0575
7.8 IA_Ardea_R850
5.2 Kipchak_DA179
5.0 Sunghir6
4.6 ArmeniaCA_I1631
3.8 JordanEBA_I1705

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 4.5652% / 4.56516557 | ADC: 0.25x
49.2 IA_Ardea_R850
16.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
13.6 Sunghir6
11.4 Ottoman_MA2196
4.4 WC1_Iran
3.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
1.4 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955


Without Bavaria:

Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.4641% / 4.46409864 | ADC: 0.25x
24.8 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
16.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
12.4 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
9.4 Kipchak_DA179
8.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
8.0 GoyetQ116_1
5.2 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
4.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
3.6 Carpathian_Oase1
3.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.6 Crimean_Goth_KER1
1.4 Kangju_DA125

Voskos
12-24-2019, 07:31 PM
Vahaduo is an unreliable statistical tool. I'm fully cretan and yet this calc gives me 0 of my own ethnicity, despite the fact the cretan average is included in the data .

Thracian
12-24-2019, 07:35 PM
Without Bavaria:

Target: Impaler
Distance: 4.4641% / 4.46409864 | ADC: 0.25x
24.8 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
16.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
12.4 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
9.4 Kipchak_DA179
8.2 Canaanite_ERS1790729
8.0 GoyetQ116_1
5.2 Kurdistan_Medieval_I1955
4.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
3.6 Carpathian_Oase1
3.2 LateMedieval_Iranian
2.6 Crimean_Goth_KER1
1.4 Kangju_DA125

This is still odd. Obviously, we need more samples. Your Canaaite score would have been lower.