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JamesBond007
12-26-2019, 11:28 PM
I have a theory about Eurogenes K13 vs Eurogenes K15 and I want to see if others think it is correct.

Eurogenes K13 has an North-Atlantic category but this category is useless because someone theoretically with a score of 50% North-Atlantic could be 36% North Sea and 14% Atlantic or vice versa 14% North Sea and 36% Atlantic and it would score the same.

Eurogenes K15, in contrast breaksdown the North-Atlantic into North Sea and Atlantic components thus it is called k15 instead of K13 because of two added components.

Am I correct in that ? If I am then Atlantic and North Sea scores are very important in differentiating between British isles groups and maybe all NorthWestern Europeans at that !

Anyway, K13 has my closest single population match as Irish but K15 has it as SouthWestern English and obviously both can't be right !

I am thinking the English result is probably correct but that hinges on my theory being correct. Can anyone confirm or deny my theory please ?

Also, on Eurogenes G25 I score closest to the Dutch and also on a Eurogenes K36 similitude map I score 88 for Dutch and 87 for southern English my closest highest Euro matches.

JamesBond007
12-26-2019, 11:37 PM
Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.80
2 Baltic 23.36
3 West_Med 13.18
4 West_Asian 8.11
5 Siberian 1.37
6 Oceanian 1.14


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Irish @ 3.860714


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Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Questions about results should be sent to him at: Alexandr.Burnashev@gmail.com
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 35.90
2 Atlantic 27.27
3 Baltic 9.97
4 Eastern_Euro 9.53
5 West_Med 9.00
6 West_Asian 4.70


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 4.223088


https://i.postimg.cc/cHzjz2Tb/memap.jpg

J. Ketch
12-26-2019, 11:46 PM
Has it occurred to you yet that any single population estimate is incorrect for a euromutt?

JamesBond007
12-27-2019, 12:11 AM
Has it occurred to you yet that any single population estimate is incorrect for a euromutt?

Has it occurred to you that is an illogical argument to the man that has nothing to do with the objective technical topic at hand ?

I'm not really a Euromutt since I am 75% British isles and 25% Alsace-Lorrane you jackass. Think about it :

The Southern English have French/German genes (and I don't mean Saxon I mean straight up kraut and Alsace is straight up kraut). Alsatians are also like Danube Swabians aka the Swaefas tribe that settled in Swaffham England. Also, there was French Huguenot and Flemish artisan immigration into Britain :

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/19/26C86A2700000578-3000998-The_study_found_that_Britain_can_be_divided_into_1 7_distinct_gen-a-4_1426776373068.jpg


Here is a GPS coordinate accurate to within 400 Kilometers based on Eurogenes K36 :

https://i.postimg.cc/X7XF4J3h/memap2.png


https://i.postimg.cc/3whd4J53/ancientme.jpg

Adamg
12-27-2019, 09:49 PM
[size=3]I'm not really a Euromutt since I am 75% British isles and 25% Alsace-Lorrane you jackass. Think about it :



Your nasty behaviour should be punished.

Saint-Glinglin
12-28-2019, 01:18 PM
North Sea seems to peak in Norwegians, Danes and Orcadians. Atlantic seems to peak in Basques, Aragoneses and SW French.

If we put it in the British Isles context, I think Atlantic would the "aboriginal" component mostly found nowadays in the western parts of the Isles. And North Sea would be the "newest" component, the one of the various germanic people which came to the east of the Isles through the sea.

The different proportions of those two components will place you somewhere on a gradient "aboriginal british vs. germanic seamen".

I hope it helps.