Why so high east asian

[Ritz06]

So high east asian compare to siberian.

# Population Percent
1 North_European 29.09
2 Caucasus 23.76
3 Atlantic_Med 21.42
4 Gedrosia 15.28
5 Southwest_Asian 5.23
6 East_Asian 3.91
7 South_Asian 1.19
8 Siberian 0.1

[Kyp]

Is it like that for all calculators?

My father (Azeri) has evenly proportioned siberian and east asian components with slightly more Siberian. For me it's pretty random though.

[Ritz06]

Is it like that for all calculators?

My father (Azeri) has evenly proportioned siberian and east asian components with slightly more Siberian

# Population Percent
1 CHG 32.6
2 WHG 30.53
3 ENF 28.49
4 E_Asian 4.22
5 ASI 2.57
6 Amerindian 0.82
7 Siberian 0.77

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 9.97
2 Greek 12.17
3 Albanian 12.95
4 Hungarian 14.96
5 Croatian 15.67
6 Tuscan 16.4
7 Italian_North 17.05
8 Irish 17.38
9 German_South 17.39
10 Italian_South 17.39
11 French 17.69
12 Turkish_Aydin 17.75
13 Ashkenazi_Jew 17.79
14 Utahn_white 18.04
15 English_South 19.41
16 Kumyk 19.44
17 Chechen 19.69
18 German_North 19.95
19 Czech 21.21
20 Sicilian 21.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.7% Chechen + 36.3% Basque_Spanish @ 3.33
2 59% Turkish_Kayseri + 41% Estonian @ 3.38
3 55.3% Turkish_Kayseri + 44.7% Belarusian @ 3.39
4 52.8% French + 47.2% Chechen @ 3.41
5 50.2% Turkish_Kayseri + 49.8% Ukrainian @ 3.44
6 59.7% Turkish_Kayseri + 40.3% Lithuanian @ 3.44
7 57.4% French + 42.6% North_Ossetian @ 3.5
8 53.3% Turkish_Kayseri + 46.7% Norwegian @ 3.66
9 52.5% German_North + 47.5% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.74
10 59.4% North_Ossetian + 40.6% Basque_Spanish @ 3.78
11 51.5% Armenian + 48.5% Estonian @ 3.86
12 67.7% Bulgarian + 32.3% Chechen @ 3.87
13 50.5% Turkish_Kayseri + 49.5% Scottish_West @ 3.94
14 66.1% Hungarian + 33.9% Iranian @ 4
15 55.4% Chechen + 44.6% Spanish_Northeast @ 4.02
16 54.4% Turkish_Kayseri + 45.6% Icelandic @ 4.04
17 59.1% Lezgin + 40.9% Basque_Spanish @ 4.04
18 60% Hungarian + 40% Turkish_Kayseri @ 4.1
19 50.4% Lezgin + 49.6% Spanish_Northeast @ 4.15
20 56.1% Irish + 43.9% Turkish_Kayseri @ 4.15

[Ritz06]

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 30.4
2 Caucasian 24.43
3 Mediterranean 18.07
4 Baloch 16.47
5 SW-Asian 4.91
6 NE-Asian 3.6
7 Beringian 1.13
8 S-Indian 0.98
9 SE-Asian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-a (behar) 12.22
2 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 12.95
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 18.5
4 tuscan (hgdp) 18.54
5 tuscan (hapmap) 18.89
6 ashkenazi (harappa) 19.44
7 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 21.1
8 italian (hgdp) 21.13
9 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 21.64
10 hungarian (behar) 21.9
11 slovenian (xing) 23.18
12 stalskoe (xing) 23.19
13 nogai (yunusbayev) 23.7
14 romanian-b (behar) 24.81
15 tajik (yunusbayev) 25.13
16 french (hgdp) 25.62
17 turkmen (yunusbayev) 26.39
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 27.01
19 urkarah (xing) 27.11
20 sephardic-jew (behar) 27.97

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.8% azeri (harappa) + 48.2% orcadian (hgdp) @ 3.63
2 53.5% n-european (xing) + 46.5% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.68
3 52.1% n-european (xing) + 47.9% iranian (harappa) @ 3.79
4 68.2% romanian-a (behar) + 31.8% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.83
5 52.8% utahn-white (hapmap) + 47.2% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 3.89
6 59.5% hungarian (behar) + 40.5% iranian (harappa) @ 3.92
7 51% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 49% azeri (harappa) @ 4.06
8 50.3% azeri (harappa) + 49.7% british (1000genomes) @ 4.06
9 80.3% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 19.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.07
10 54.1% n-european (xing) + 45.9% kurd (xing) @ 4.12
11 51.4% utahn-white (hapmap) + 48.6% iranian (harappa) @ 4.13
12 51.2% n-european (xing) + 48.8% azeri (harappa) @ 4.18
13 53.4% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 46.6% kurd (yunusbayev) @ 4.23
14 81.4% romanian-a (behar) + 18.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 4.24
15 52.3% n-european (xing) + 47.7% kurd (harappa) @ 4.25
16 66.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 33.1% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 4.25
17 80.6% romanian-a (behar) + 19.4% makrani (hgdp) @ 4.27
18 50.5% turkish (harappa) + 49.5% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 4.29
19 79.5% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 20.5% balochi (hgdp) @ 4.33
20 55.1% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 44.9% orcadian (hgdp) @ 4.33

[Kyp]

Is the question why you score so high east asian in general?

[Ritz06]

Is the question why you score so high east asian in general?

Both, but i do have iranian azeri ancestry. tought i would score some more siberian. Starting to belive i have real east asian ancestry.

[Ritz06]

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.07
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 23.19
3 European_Early_Farmers 14.84
4 South_Central_Asian 14.29
5 Ancestral_Altaic 4.14
6 Near_East 3.6
7 South_East_Asian 2
8 Arctic 1.68
9 Austronesian 1
10 South_Indian 0.99
11 North_African 0.78
12 African_Pygmy 0.19
13 Australoid 0.13
14 Tungus-Altaic 0.08

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 11.51
2 Bulgarian ( ) 12.19
3 Bosnian ( ) 12.26
4 Serb_BH ( ) 12.51
5 Serb_Serbia ( ) 12.53
6 Croat_BH ( ) 12.55
7 Montenegrian ( ) 12.55
8 Croat ( ) 12.9
9 Turk_Aydin ( ) 13.1
10 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 13.18
11 Macedonian ( ) 13.24
12 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 13.41
13 Romanian ( ) 13.62
14 Czech ( ) 14.15
15 Ukrainian_West ( ) 14.22
16 Slovenian ( ) 14.53
17 Slovak ( ) 14.59
18 Hungarian ( ) 14.88
19 Greek_Northwest ( ) 15.38
20 Sicilian_West ( ) 15.55

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.6% South_German ( ) + 46.4% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 2.51
2 55.6% German-Volga ( ) + 44.4% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 3.02
3 59.7% Austrian ( ) + 40.3% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 3.04
4 52.8% North_German ( ) + 47.2% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 3.11
5 68.9% Bulgarian ( ) + 31.1% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) @ 3.14
6 52.6% Kabardin ( ) + 47.4% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) @ 3.2
7 59.8% Greek_Thessaly ( ) + 40.2% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) @ 3.29
8 53.7% Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) + 46.3% Frisian ( ) @ 3.3
9 53.8% Kabardin ( ) + 46.2% Orcadian ( ) @ 3.3
10 54.9% South_German ( ) + 45.1% Lezgin ( ) @ 3.3
11 59.3% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 40.7% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) @ 3.3
12 55.2% Kumyk ( ) + 44.8% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) @ 3.31
13 54.4% Kumyk ( ) + 45.6% Icelandic ( ) @ 3.32
14 51.9% Kumyk ( ) + 48.1% North_European ( ) @ 3.36
15 61% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 39% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) @ 3.39
16 56.4% Kumyk ( ) + 43.6% Orcadian ( ) @ 3.41
17 52.1% German-Volga ( ) + 47.9% Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) @ 3.43
18 53.7% Kumyk ( ) + 46.3% CEU ( ) @ 3.44
19 51.8% Kabardin ( ) + 48.2% Icelandic ( ) @ 3.44
20 50.4% Kumyk ( ) + 49.6% English ( ) @ 3.5

[Ritz06]

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[SharpFork]

I don't see any problems, 8-12% East Eurasian doesn't seem a lot in Azeris, is it?

[Ritz06]

I don't see any problems, 8-12% East Eurasian doesn't seem a lot in Azeris, is it?

i belive i have som tajik or other asian ethnicity ancestry.

[Oghuz]

What is the usual East Asian score for Azeris ?

[Ritz06]

What is the usual East Asian score for Azeris ?

1.41 on harappaworld and i score 3.60 and 19.73 baloch and score 16.47

[happycow]

I get east asian on some calculators but no siberian. Don't know if I have a turk ancestor or not. or mongol raids. :dunno:

[Ritz06]

I get east asian on some calculators but no siberian. Don't know if I have a turk ancestor or not. or mongol raids. :dunno:

how much balochi do get?

[happycow]

how much balochi do get?

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.09
2 SW-Asian 25.56
3 Mediterranean 14.28
4 Baloch 9.73
5 NE-Euro 3.98
6 E-African 3.45
7 W-African 2.55
8 S-Indian 1.71
9 SE-Asian 1.3
10 NE-Asian 0.75
11 American 0.52
12 Papuan 0.09

[Kyp]

1.41 on harappaworld and i score 3.60 and 19.73 baloch and score 16.47

Why does Baloch surprise you? Iranian average is around 28?

[Pater Patota]

Afaik, Iranians get EA more than Siberian.Imo, EA admix belongs to Central&South Central Asian folks.

Btw, I get more EA than Siberian, my EA is about 2.5% but my Siberian is about 1%.

[Kyp]

My father:

1 Caucasian 39.44
2 Baloch 21.23
3 NE-Euro 10.91
4 SW-Asian 8.6
5 Mediterranean 6.88
6 S-Indian 4.26
7 NE-Asian 3.91
8 Siberian 3.58
9 Beringian 0.52
10 E-African 0.44
11 SE-Asian 0.23

[Leto]

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.09
2 SW-Asian 25.56
3 Mediterranean 14.28
4 Baloch 9.73
5 NE-Euro 3.98
6 E-African 3.45
7 W-African 2.55
8 S-Indian 1.71
9 SE-Asian 1.3
10 NE-Asian 0.75
11 American 0.52
12 Papuan 0.09
You are literally 6% black and half of it seems to be post-Islamic. Given your admiration for black people I hope that doesn't sound like trolling ;)

[Leto]

My father:

1 Caucasian 39.44
2 Baloch 21.23
3 NE-Euro 10.91
4 SW-Asian 8.6
5 Mediterranean 6.88
6 S-Indian 4.26
7 NE-Asian 3.91
8 Siberian 3.58
9 Beringian 0.52
10 E-African 0.44
11 SE-Asian 0.23
Can you add your own Dod K12b to compare with Ritz's?

[Leto]

I don't see any problems, 8-12% East Eurasian doesn't seem a lot in Azeris, is it?
12% would be a lot. Both Republican and Iranian Azerbaijanis are 5-7% mongoloid (of course some may get a bit more than that). They don't have much Central Asian admixture. Maybe 15-20% or so.

[happycow]

You are literally 6% black and half of it seems to be post-Islamic. Given your admiration for black people I hope that doesn't sound like trolling ;)

xD I have no admiration for black people lmao. I like to joke that I'd be zero percent black if the damn arabs didn't have jungle fever. :icon_lol:

[Ritz06]

Why does Baloch surprise you? Iranian average is around 28?

because my grandmother is from baku

[Kyp]

Can you add your own Dod K12b to compare with Ritz's?

# Population Percent

1 Caucasus 27.46
2 North_European 27.1
3 Atlantic_Med 20.87
4 Gedrosia 12.02
5 Southwest_Asian 6.23
6 South_Asian 1.99
8 Siberian 1.86
9 East_Asian 1.05
10 Northwest_African 0.95
11 Southeast_Asian 0.46

[Kyp]

because my grandmother is from baku

Azerbaijani average is still like 19% also NW Europeans (British and Norwegian) score more Baloch than most Europeans. I think Norwegian average is around 8%

[Ritz06]

Azerbaijani average is still like 19%

i have 16,5 and thats high, therefor i think i have some different iranian in me like tajik

[Kyp]

i have 16,5 and thats high, therefor i think i have some different iranian in me like tajik

I don't think so. Seems normal to me.

[Ritz06]

I don't think so. Seems normal to me.


# Population Percent
1 North_European 29.09
2 Caucasus 23.76
3 Atlantic_Med 21.42
4 Gedrosia 15.28
5 Southwest_Asian 5.23
6 East_Asian 3.91
7 South_Asian 1.19
8 Siberian 0.1

similar

[Leto]

Your Iranian father must be around 40% West Asian on the "holy" Eurogenes

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 28.19
2 West_Asian 22.85
3 Baltic 15.17
4 East_Med 13.85
5 West_Med 9.59
6 East_Asian 3.42
7 South_Asian 3.35
8 Red_Sea 1.97
9 Siberian 1.01
10 Amerindian 0.53
11 Sub-Saharan 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 15.93
2 Bulgarian 16.87
3 Serbian 17.38
4 Italian_Abruzzo 19.01
5 Greek_Thessaly 19.17
6 Hungarian 20.96
7 Tuscan 21.02
8 Moldavian 21.17
9 West_German 21.44
10 North_Italian 21.47
11 Central_Greek 21.71
12 Austrian 21.74
13 French 22.42
14 West_Sicilian 22.72
15 South_Dutch 22.97
16 East_Sicilian 23.02
17 Croatian 23.64
18 East_German 23.94
19 Nogay 24.27
20 South_Italian 24.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.1% Azeri + 48.9% Irish @ 3.59
2 51.8% Azeri + 48.2% Norwegian @ 3.83
3 52.7% Orcadian + 47.3% Kurdish @ 3.91
4 50.3% Azeri + 49.7% North_Dutch @ 3.92
5 52.5% Irish + 47.5% Kurdish @ 3.95
6 51.6% Azeri + 48.4% West_Scottish @ 3.95
7 52.8% Kumyk + 47.2% Southeast_English @ 3.99
8 50.9% Azeri + 49.1% Orcadian @ 4.01
9 51.8% Norwegian + 48.2% Kurdish @ 4.02
10 53.2% North_Dutch + 46.8% Kurdish @ 4.06
11 50.1% Azeri + 49.9% Danish @ 4.12
12 54.5% French + 45.5% Lezgin @ 4.12
13 52.1% South_Dutch + 47.9% Kumyk @ 4.13
14 52% West_Scottish + 48% Kurdish @ 4.19
15 53.8% West_German + 46.2% Kumyk @ 4.21
16 53.5% Danish + 46.5% Kurdish @ 4.24
17 52% North_German + 48% Azeri @ 4.25
18 53.8% Kumyk + 46.2% Southwest_English @ 4.25
19 55.6% North_German + 44.4% Kurdish @ 4.41
20 51.1% Azeri + 48.9% Southwest_English @ 4.54
Norwegians don't get more than 5% on average.

[Ritz06]

Your Iranian father must be around 40% West Asian on the "holy" Eurogenes

Norwegians don't get more than 5% on average.

is that normal?

[Ritz06]

Your Iranian father must be around 40% West Asian on the "holy" Eurogenes

Norwegians don't get more than 5% on average.

is that normal?

[Kyp]

# Population Percent
1 North_European 29.09
2 Caucasus 23.76
3 Atlantic_Med 21.42
4 Gedrosia 15.28
5 Southwest_Asian 5.23
6 East_Asian 3.91
7 South_Asian 1.19
8 Siberian 0.1

similar

Iranian average 28% Norwegian average 8%
Let's say your father has 25% and your mother 8%. You would get 16,5%.

[Leto]

is that normal?
Yes, for Persians and Kurds. I doubt your Norwegian side had any extra Woggistani.

[Ritz06]

Yes, for Persians and Kurds. I doubt your Norwegian side had any extra Woggistani.

i do have low south asian

[Kyp]

i do have low south asian

Then why do you think you have Tajik ancestry...

[Ritz06]

Then why do you think you have Tajik ancestry...

gedrosian + east asian. think my great grandfather was tajik

[Thracian]

Both, but i do have iranian azeri ancestry. tought i would score some more siberian. Starting to belive i have real east asian ancestry.

Can you also post your Eurogenes K13? How can you score more Mongoloid than me?

[Kyp]

gedrosian + east asian. think my great grandfather was tajik

We already established that your gedrosian + east asian is not abnormal for Azeri/Persian/Norwegian.
Also look at your Southwestasian.

Tajik showing up in the mixed mode doesn't mean anything. It's the same for me and my father on almost every calculator.

[Leto]

Can you also post your Eurogenes K13? How can you score more Mongoloid than me?
See the previous page.

[Leto]

gedrosian + east asian. think my great grandfather was tajik
There is no Tajiks in Iran or Azerbaijan.

Dodecad K12b references:

Gedrosia

Iranian 28.80
Iranians 30.90
Kurd 28.70
Kurds 28.20

Norwegian 8.20
Swedish 7.70
Mixed_Germanic 10.70
German 7.30
Kent (SE English) 10.49

Your father is probably 22% Gedrosian or so. Tajiks and Afghans are more Gedrosian than Kurds, that component increases as you go east.

[Ritz06]

There is no Tajiks in Iran or Azerbaijan.

Dodecad K12b references:

Gedrosia

Iranian 28.80
Iranians 30.90
Kurd 28.70
Kurds 28.20

Norwegian 8.20
Swedish 7.70
Mixed_Germanic 10.70
German 7.30
Kent (SE English) 10.49

Your father is probably 22% Gedrosian or so. Tajiks and Afghans are more Gedrosian than Kurds, that component increases as you go east.

you're right

# Population Percent
1 SINTASHTA_STEPPE_HERDERS 25.29
2 CAUCASUS 24.2
3 EARLY_EUROPEAN_FARMERS 23.85
4 BALOCHI 11.19
5 SW_ASIAN 9.36
6 S_INDIAN 2.54
7 INDO_TIBETAN 1.51
8 W_SIBERIAN 1.09
9 SE_ASIAN 0.98

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks_Istanbul 16.76
2 Greek 16.8
3 Turks_Aydin 20.58
4 Sicilian 21.42
5 Turks_Balikesir 22.21
6 Kurds_C 23.24
7 Kurds_N 23.3
8 Turks_Adana 25.55
9 Kurds_F 25.58
10 Kurds_E 25.79
11 Turks_Kayseri 26.36
12 Iraqi_Chaldeans 26.77
13 Tajik_Pomiri 26.8
14 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad 26.82
15 Turkmen_Afghan 27.71
16 Iraqi_Jew 29.26
17 Tajik_Afghan 29.43
18 Iraqi_Mandaeans 29.77
19 Uzbek_Afghan 30.04
20 Iranian 30.13

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian +50% Norwegian @ 4.689854


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 4.689854


Using 4 populations approximation:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Greek + Norwegian + Tajik_Pomiri + Turks_Adana @ 1.990697
2 Armenian + Greek + Norwegian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 2.183522
3 Greek + Iraqi_Chaldeans + Norwegian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 2.187807
4 Assyrian + Greek + Norwegian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 2.272901
5 Greek + Norwegian + Tajik_Pomiri + Turks_Kayseri @ 2.300415
6 Norwegian + Sicilian + Tajik_Pomiri + Turks_Kayseri @ 2.585087
7 Greek + Iraqi_Jew + Norwegian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 2.611174
8 Greek + Iraqi_Mandaeans + Norwegian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 2.696723
9 Armenian + Greek + Lithuanian + Uzbek_Afghan @ 2.730437
10 Armenian + Estonian + Greek + Uzbek_Afghan @ 2.752654
11 Norwegian + Sicilian + Tajik_Pomiri + Turks_Adana @ 2.778801
12 Greek + Kurds_N + Norwegian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 2.970359
13 Kurds_N + Norwegian + Sicilian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 2.988261
14 Greek + Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad + Norwegian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 3.028800
15 Armenian + Norwegian + Sicilian + Tajik_Pomiri @ 3.092985
16 Norwegian + Sicilian + Tajik_Pomiri + Turks_Aydin @ 3.096519
17 Norwegian + Sicilian + Tajik_Pomiri + Turks_Istanbul @ 3.169966
18 Greek + Norwegian + Pashtun_Afghan + Turks_Aydin @ 3.233310
19 Armenian + Lithuanian + Sicilian + Uzbek_Afghan @ 3.298526
20 Lithuanian + Pashtun_Afghan + Sicilian + Turks_Kayseri @ 3.313368

[Pine]

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.09
2 SW-Asian 25.56
3 Mediterranean 14.28
4 Baloch 9.73
5 NE-Euro 3.98
6 E-African 3.45
7 W-African 2.55
8 S-Indian 1.71
9 SE-Asian 1.3
10 NE-Asian 0.75
11 American 0.52
12 Papuan 0.09

Same situation (more SE-Asian than NE-Asian) and Baloch number in the same neighborhood:

Population
S-Indian -
Baloch 8.83 Pct
Caucasian 33.71 Pct
NE-Euro 12.87 Pct
SE-Asian 2.24 Pct
Siberian 0.28 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan 0.76 Pct
American 0.06 Pct
Beringian 0.27 Pct
Mediterranean 23.52 Pct
SW-Asian 16.13 Pct
San 0.17 Pct
E-African 0.17 Pct
Pygmy 0.54 Pct
W-African 0.45 Pct

I'm the most SE-Asian here.

[happycow]

Same situation (more SE-Asian than NE-Asian) and Baloch number in the same neighborhood:

Population
S-Indian -
Baloch 8.83 Pct
Caucasian 33.71 Pct
NE-Euro 12.87 Pct
SE-Asian 2.24 Pct
Siberian 0.28 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan 0.76 Pct
American 0.06 Pct
Beringian 0.27 Pct
Mediterranean 23.52 Pct
SW-Asian 16.13 Pct
San 0.17 Pct
E-African 0.17 Pct
Pygmy 0.54 Pct
W-African 0.45 Pct

I'm the most SE-Asian here.

I wonder how it made its way to the levant.... :confused:

[El_Abominacion]

Which part of Iran is your Iranian side from?

[Pine]

How much East Asian do you have on Eurogenes K36?

[SUPREEEEEME]

Same situation (more SE-Asian than NE-Asian) and Baloch number in the same neighborhood:

Population
S-Indian -
Baloch 8.83 Pct
Caucasian 33.71 Pct
NE-Euro 12.87 Pct
SE-Asian 2.24 Pct
Siberian 0.28 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan 0.76 Pct
American 0.06 Pct
Beringian 0.27 Pct
Mediterranean 23.52 Pct
SW-Asian 16.13 Pct
San 0.17 Pct
E-African 0.17 Pct
Pygmy 0.54 Pct
W-African 0.45 Pct

I'm the most SE-Asian here.

This is what I get:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 28.08
2 Mediterranean 24.91
3 NE-Euro 17.38
4 SW-Asian 14.95
5 Baloch 9.59
6 Beringian 1.26
7 NE-Asian 1.23
8 E-African 1.01
9 S-Indian 0.96
10 W-African 0.28
11 Pygmy 0.25
12 Siberian 0.08
13 San 0.02

I appear to score some Northeast Asian. My Baloch also appears to be somewhat high - any idea what that indicates?

[Ritz06]

Which part of Iran is your Iranian side from?

tehran, tabriz and in south azerbaidjan

[Ritz06]

How much East Asian do you have on Eurogenes K36?


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 5.59 Pct
Basque 0.71 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.58 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian 1.36 Pct
East_Balkan 3.51 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.69 Pct
East_Med 7.83 Pct
Eastern_Euro 1.38 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.29 Pct
French 2.41 Pct
Iberian 4.52 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.32 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.09 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 9.48 Pct
North_Caucasian 11.49 Pct
North_Sea 5.71 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 10.12 Pct
South_Chinese 0.66 Pct
Volga-Ural 0.39 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 4.84 Pct
West_Med -

[Pine]

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 5.59 Pct
Basque 0.71 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.58 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian 1.36 Pct
East_Balkan 3.51 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.69 Pct
East_Med 7.83 Pct
Eastern_Euro 1.38 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.29 Pct
French 2.41 Pct
Iberian 4.52 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.32 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.09 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 9.48 Pct
North_Caucasian 11.49 Pct
North_Sea 5.71 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 10.12 Pct
South_Chinese 0.66 Pct
Volga-Ural 0.39 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 4.84 Pct
West_Med -

I get 1.5 Malayan and 0.33 Oceanian - total isn't that far from yours. Granted, I have a lot for a Jew.

[Pine]

This is what I get:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 28.08
2 Mediterranean 24.91
3 NE-Euro 17.38
4 SW-Asian 14.95
5 Baloch 9.59
6 Beringian 1.26
7 NE-Asian 1.23
8 E-African 1.01
9 S-Indian 0.96
10 W-African 0.28
11 Pygmy 0.25
12 Siberian 0.08
13 San 0.02

I appear to score some Northeast Asian. My Baloch also appears to be somewhat high - any idea what that indicates?

Your Baloch is like HappyCow's. Higher Northeast Asian is typical for Ashkenazim - I'm the odd one who gets Southeast Asian instead.

[altaic]

Eastern Anatolian here... For me; Siberian usually shows between 1 to 3% and Amerindian shows always between 1-2% , and East Asian are usually around 1% to 2%. Sometimes my East Asian is less than 1%... I am also curious why I have slightly higher Amerindian than usual Turks. How do you guys interpret Amerindian overall? My mum is even higher, sometimes she has 2.5% Amerindian with almost no other Mongoloid component...?

BTW; According to Davidski G25 : I am ~ 80% Turkish and 20% Yazidi, similar to MDLP K23b which was %80 Turkish 20% Kurdish....

My MDLP K23b Admix Results (sorted): (4.75% Mongoloid)

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.88
2 South_Central_Asian 19.01
3 Near_East 13.24
4 European_Early_Farmers 9.94
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 5.65
6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.63
7 South_Indian 2.17
8 North_African 2.13
9 Tungus-Altaic 1.9
10 Amerindian 1.11
11 East_Siberian 0.71
12 Paleo_Siberian 0.57
13 Austronesian 0.46

My mother K23b (3.5% Mongoloid)
7 Amerindian 1.73
8 South_Indian 1.62
9 North_African 1.58
10 Arctic 1.39
11 Khoisan 1.3
12 Melano_Polynesian 0.5
13 Tungus-Altaic 0.35
14 Archaic_Human 0.12

Overall; My mum have low Siberian or no Siberian but she has always Amerindian or Arctic. I have Siberian in all calculation average of 2%...

[Pine]

Eastern Anatolian here... For me; Siberian usually shows between 1 to 3% and Amerindian shows always between 1-2% , and East Asian are usually around 1% to 2%. Sometimes my East Asian is less than 1%... I am also curious why I have slightly higher Amerindian than usual Turks. How do you guys interpret Amerindian overall? My mum is even higher, sometimes she has 2.5% Amerindian with almost no other Mongoloid component...?

BTW; According to Davidski G25 : I am ~ 80% Turkish and 20% Yazidi, similar to MDLP K23b which was %80 Turkish 20% Kurdish....

My MDLP K23b Admix Results (sorted): (4.75% Mongoloid)

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.88
2 South_Central_Asian 19.01
3 Near_East 13.24
4 European_Early_Farmers 9.94
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 5.65
6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.63
7 South_Indian 2.17
8 North_African 2.13
9 Tungus-Altaic 1.9
10 Amerindian 1.11
11 East_Siberian 0.71
12 Paleo_Siberian 0.57
13 Austronesian 0.46

My mother K23b (3.5% Mongoloid)
7 Amerindian 1.73
8 South_Indian 1.62
9 North_African 1.58
10 Arctic 1.39
11 Khoisan 1.3
12 Melano_Polynesian 0.5
13 Tungus-Altaic 0.35
14 Archaic_Human 0.12

Overall; My mum have low Siberian or no Siberian but she has always Amerindian or Arctic. I have Siberian in all calculation average of 2%...

Population
Amerindian -
Ancestral_Altaic 1.66 Pct
South_Central_Asian 7.86 Pct
Arctic -
South_Indian -
Australoid 0.58 Pct
Austronesian 0.88 Pct
Caucasian 33.82 Pct
Archaic_Human -
East_African 0.29 Pct
East_Siberian -
European_Early_Farmers 20.32 Pct
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian 0.84 Pct
Archaic_African 0.64 Pct
Near_East 13.61 Pct
North_African 9.58 Pct
Paleo_Siberian 0.35 Pct
African_Pygmy -
South_East_Asian 1.18 Pct
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic -
European_Hunters_Gatherers 8.39 Pct

I'm at 3.83, assuming those count. Am I Turan?

[Negah]

Both, but i do have iranian azeri ancestry. tought i would score some more siberian. Starting to belive i have real east asian ancestry.

Is your father Iranian Azeri? Based on these Gedmatch calculators it does seem that you do?

[Negah]

My father:

1 Caucasian 39.44
2 Baloch 21.23
3 NE-Euro 10.91
4 SW-Asian 8.6
5 Mediterranean 6.88
6 S-Indian 4.26
7 NE-Asian 3.91
8 Siberian 3.58
9 Beringian 0.52
10 E-African 0.44
11 SE-Asian 0.23

Your dad has definitely Turkmen ancestry.

[Kyp]

Your dad has definitely Turkmen ancestry.

Should be a no-brainer for an Azeri. Or do you mean recent Turkmen ancestry? His East Asian/Siberian is about average for Azeris on most calculators.

[Negah]

tehran, tabriz and in south azerbaidjan

your result is not unusual for that mixture. Also, these calculators IMO are highly flawed.

[Synapsid]

Should be a no-brainer for an Azeri. Or do you mean recent Turkmen ancestry? His East Asian/Siberian is about average for Azeris on most calculators.

Do Azeris really have elevated East Eurasian compared to other Iranians?

[Kyp]

Do Azeris really have elevated East Eurasian compared to other Iranians?

Yes around ~7% on average. Other Western/Central Iranians have 0-3% (Depending on the region).

[Leto]

My father:

1 Caucasian 39.44
2 Baloch 21.23
3 NE-Euro 10.91
4 SW-Asian 8.6
5 Mediterranean 6.88
6 S-Indian 4.26
7 NE-Asian 3.91
8 Siberian 3.58
9 Beringian 0.52
10 E-African 0.44
11 SE-Asian 0.23
Talysh average (n = 10)
Caucasian 44.12
Baloch 23.8
SW-Asian 11.31
NE-Euro 7.04
Mediterranean 5.6
S-Indian 3.16
Siberian 1.17
NE-Asian 1.12
SE-Asian 0.82
Beringian 0.61
Other (Amerindian, African, Papuan) 1.25

[altaic]

Population
Amerindian -
Ancestral_Altaic 1.66 Pct
South_Central_Asian 7.86 Pct
Arctic -
South_Indian -
Australoid 0.58 Pct
Austronesian 0.88 Pct
Caucasian 33.82 Pct
Archaic_Human -
East_African 0.29 Pct
East_Siberian -
European_Early_Farmers 20.32 Pct
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian 0.84 Pct
Archaic_African 0.64 Pct
Near_East 13.61 Pct
North_African 9.58 Pct
Paleo_Siberian 0.35 Pct
African_Pygmy -
South_East_Asian 1.18 Pct
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic -
European_Hunters_Gatherers 8.39 Pct

I'm at 3.83, assuming those count. Am I Turan?

You are missing two important component Tungus Altaic and East Siberian. Sorry no Turan :)

[Kyp]

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[Pine]

You are missing two important component Tungus Altaic and East Siberian. Sorry no Turan :)

You'll regret not claiming me when I become a Samoan chieftain.

[Chris596]

I really don't understand one thing and I want to ask for help, what do you think?

On 90% of GEDmatch calculators I don't get Siberian at all. Meanwhile, most of the time I usually get 1.5-2% East/Northeast Asian. On some I get East and a little Southeast Asian as well, but again, no Siberian/Amerindian/Arctic, etc.

So, my point is that I don't have any Siberian admix (while most people have and it's usually way higher). Is this some error, or how is it possible for a ,,Hungarian'' to have this, without Siberian at the same time? Just pure East-Asian? A member pointed out that this is unusual.

[Chris596]

Can you help me? Some of my results (overall I get almost East Asian only)

Eurogenes K9: East Asian 0.98
Eurogenes K12b: West Central Asian 0.46; East Asian 1.01
Eurogenes K13: East_Asian 1.64
Eurogenes K15: Southeast_Asian 1.03;
Dodecad V3: Northeast_Asian 0.05; Southeast_Asian 1.22
Dodecad World9: East_Asian 1.79
Dodecad K12b: East_Asian 1.44
PuntDNAL K15: E_Asian 0.94
PuntDNAL K13: NE_Asia 1.84; SE_Asia 1.12; Oceania 0.18
Gedrosia K3: E_Eurasian 1.33
Harappaworld: NE-Asian 1.50

[Jana]

Can you help me? Some of my results (overall I get almost East Asian only)

Eurogenes K9: East Asian 0.98
Eurogenes K12b: West Central Asian 0.46; East Asian 1.01
Eurogenes K13: East_Asian 1.64
Eurogenes K15: Southeast_Asian 1.03;
Dodecad V3: Northeast_Asian 0.05; Southeast_Asian 1.22
Dodecad World9: East_Asian 1.79
Dodecad K12b: East_Asian 1.44
PuntDNAL K15: E_Asian 0.94
PuntDNAL K13: NE_Asia 1.84; SE_Asia 1.12; Oceania 0.18
Gedrosia K3: E_Eurasian 1.33
Harappaworld: NE-Asian 1.50

Avars were heavily east Asian as far as I saw. Maybe you simply have Avar blood instead of old Magyar. Just a speculation.

[Chris596]

Avars were heavily east Asian as far as I saw. Maybe you simply have Avar blood instead of old Magyar. Just a speculation.

This is a possible explanation. ,,A study published in Scientific Reports in January 2020 examined the remains of twenty-six individuals buried at various elite Avar cemeteries in the Pannonian Basin dated to the 7th century AD. The genetic data found mostly exclusive East Asian DNA among the samples. The Avar males examined were found to be "strikingly homogeneous". The Avars were found to be particularly closely related to Yakuts, Buryats, and other populations of the eastern steppe.''

Also: Further, a study published in 2019, found that 4% to 7% of the modern population in Austria, Hungary and Romania can trace their ancestry to “East Asian nomads” (parts of their ancestry).

Which is also weird, because I didn't even get 0.1% on Myheritage, but every other ancestry admixture calculator shows this on GEDmatch :picard1:

[Dr_Maul]

Eh, I think the meaning (Turkic ancestry) can be relatively interchangeable for people who have it in low amounts (>15%). Personally I never get East Asian but I always get between 0.5-2% Siberian, although PuntDNAL's 3.4% Siberian gives me this blessed result

2 97.2% Iranian + 2.8% Yakut @ 3.9

[Chris596]

Eh, I think the meaning (Turkic ancestry) can be relatively interchangeable for people who have it in low amounts (>15%). Personally I never get East Asian but I always get between 0.5-2% Siberian, although PuntDNAL's 3.4% Siberian gives me this blessed result

2 97.2% Iranian + 2.8% Yakut @ 3.9

That's interesting :D I'm a little jelly because you got 97.2% Iranian which suggests (most of) your ancestry. But at the same time I also have ,,real'' Balkan ancestry too, so I can't blame my results xd

Here's some of my PuntDNAL results:
88.9% Croatian + 11.1% Nogay @ 2.84
96.6% Bosnian + 3.4% Lahu @ 2.89
96.7% Bosnian + 3.3% Miaozu @ 2.89

[Kyp]

Can you help me? Some of my results (overall I get almost East Asian only)

Eurogenes K9: East Asian 0.98
Eurogenes K12b: West Central Asian 0.46; East Asian 1.01
Eurogenes K13: East_Asian 1.64
Eurogenes K15: Southeast_Asian 1.03;
Dodecad V3: Northeast_Asian 0.05; Southeast_Asian 1.22
Dodecad World9: East_Asian 1.79
Dodecad K12b: East_Asian 1.44
PuntDNAL K15: E_Asian 0.94
PuntDNAL K13: NE_Asia 1.84; SE_Asia 1.12; Oceania 0.18
Gedrosia K3: E_Eurasian 1.33
Harappaworld: NE-Asian 1.50

Wouldn't take these things so serious in such low amounts. By comparing parents results with their children it shows that it is often random..

Example:

Father: 3.50% East Asian 0% Siberian 0% Beringian
Mother: 0% EA 0% S 0% B
Son: 0%EA 0.50%S 1.00%B

Have seen couple of such things. In such a case I would take the father's results as more valid.