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Avicenna
01-15-2020, 02:54 PM
No, now we're just posting posts out of interest, nothing more.

Also, avicenna is a kabuli tajik. He could range from a normal afg tajik(those with 10% mong), to a normal afg pashtun to a more south asian shifted afghan(the kind of south asian shifted afghan who would be equally as close to me as to some punjabis....some kabulis really can turn south asian. But for now we can just guess)

By South asian you mean more nuristani like then yes. You cannot confuse gedmatch with g25 imo. Mine and Shogun g25 runs which I posted yesterday showed how similar Pashtuns from the south and Eastern Pashtuns are ( uthmankhel) let alone Pashtuns from within Afghan borders.

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 02:54 PM
Anyone got any south american coordinates? And i mean like the avg latino ones, not fully amerindian ones

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 02:55 PM
By South asian you mean more nuristani like then yes. You cannot confuse gedmatch with g25 imo. Mine and Shogun g25 runs which I posted yesterday showed how similar Pashtuns from the south and Eastern Pashtuns are ( uthmankhel) let alone Pashtuns from within Afghan borders.

Nah, he didnt seem more dard shifted. He actually just seemed more south asian shifted. His "baloch" was only 35%.

Edit: Scratch that. He actually only got 32,3% baloch. 100% he doesnt has much dard in him, if he even has any.

Getting up to 23% SI(or slightly below....even got a sample getting higher and up to 25% SI; but that sample is 100% partly indian) is not too rare for kabulis. Guess they really are a melting pot of AFG, like inbetween indic, iranic and turkic.

I would mean that the kabuli are the most diverse regional people

Nassbean
01-15-2020, 03:10 PM
Honestly, i really doubt some small amount of admix is what pulls the morrocans so far, even if they have shitton of euro alike admix they share with south euros. Even south americans shouldnt be too far from south euros, despite their non-west eurasian admix.

As you guys might have a lot of euro in you, you probably also have a shitton of middleeastern in you which got to be alien asf to south euros. I mean, not even the most north african admixed canaria sample was any close to most euro berber. Its probably because the huge amount of middleeastern in you(tbh, you kind of do have a shitton of middleeastern component in you, like harrappaworld. You got like 30% SW-asian, while spanish get up to max 8%, i think)+ some of the SSA and that ANA component.

Probably also why youre far from west asians and middleeasterners apart from egyptians due to being too euro for middleeasterners as well.

Actually North moroccans and other coastal maghrebis have around 30% of iberomaurusian ancestry (it can reach 50% for the most isolated berbers) meanwhile it's almost non-existent among iberians and other southern euros. As for the ME components you're right we have a lot of ME components but when you compare our results with modern MEs we share less components with them than with iberians ( look at page 2 : https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?312084-Question-to-Iberians-Do-you-feel-close-to-North-Africans) + also the SSA admixture can vary a lot between individuals (for coastal maghrebis it's in general around 5-10% ). There is also the fact that for the moment we have zero dna data of capsians who were the proto-berbers. So in my opinion it's the lack of data and the combination of multiple non-existent components in south europe

Avicenna
01-15-2020, 03:11 PM
Nah, he didnt seem more dard shifted. He actually just seemed more south asian shifted. His "baloch" was only 35%.

Edit: Scratch that. He actually only got 32,3% baloch. 100% he doesnt has much dard in him, if he even has any.

Getting up to 23% SI(or slightly below....even got a sample getting higher and up to 25% SI; but that sample is 100% partly indian) is not too rare for kabulis. Guess they really are a melting pot of AFG, like inbetween indic, iranic and turkic.

I would mean that the kabuli are the most diverse regional people

Who are you talking about?

I don't think it is tbh, rural regions around kabul like parwan and panjshir who are very much tajik get around 17-22 SI on harappa world. Nuristanis get that much as well. I think most of it is just Iran neolithic and afontova gora imo. I think we should move on from harappa.

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 03:17 PM
Who are you talking about?

I don't think it is tbh, rural regions around kabul like parwan and panjshir who are very much tajik get around 17-22 SI on harappa world. Nuristanis get that much as well. I think most of it is just Iran neolithic and afontova gora imo. I think we should move on from harappa.

I dont think its mostly caucasiod, but rather mostly aasi.

But we can agree to disagree and move on as you say.

And i guess youre right about kabulis not scoring 23% SI outside the city. The ones i got were just urban dwellers. Though urban kabulis can also be pretty much central asian shifted

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 03:18 PM
Actually North moroccans and other coastal maghrebis have around 30% of iberomaurusian ancestry (it can reach 50% for the most isolated berbers) meanwhile it's almost non-existent among iberians and other southern euros. As for the ME components you're right we have a lot of ME components but when you compare our results with modern MEs we share less components with them than with iberians ( look at page 2 : https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?312084-Question-to-Iberians-Do-you-feel-close-to-North-Africans) + also the SSA admixture can vary a lot between individuals (for coastal maghrebis it's in general around 5-10% ). There is also the fact that for the moment we have zero dna data of capsians who were the proto-berbers. So in my opinion it's the lack of data and the combination of multiple non-existent components in south europe

Yeah, that sounds like making sense(although i believe the Iberoimaurusian component probably have some small affinity to south euros, since its likely fully west eurasian)

Nassbean
01-15-2020, 03:23 PM
Yeah, that sounds like making sense(although i believe the Iberoimaurusian component probably have some small affinity to south euros, since its likely fully west eurasian)

Actually ANA contributed a lot to the iberomaurusian dna so it's not fully west eurasian :

https://i.imgur.com/UhzrhwC.jpg

Avicenna
01-15-2020, 03:25 PM
I dont think its mostly caucasiod, but rather mostly aasi.

But we can agree to disagree and move on as you say.

And i guess youre right about kabulis not scoring 23% SI outside the city. The ones i got were just urban dwellers. Though urban kabulis can also be pretty much central asian shifted

How so? If it was mostly asi then surely the pashtun results would have gotten up to 15% asi in total. Rather they get around 7%. This is including the trace amounts of asi in the BMAC sample too.

Adamastor
01-15-2020, 03:25 PM
Honestly, i really doubt some small amount of admix is what pulls the morrocans so far, even if they have shitton of euro alike admix they share with south euros. Even south americans shouldnt be too far from south euros, despite their non-west eurasian admix.

As you guys might have a lot of euro in you, you probably also have a shitton of middleeastern in you which got to be alien asf to south euros. I mean, not even the most north african admixed canaria sample was any close to most euro berber. Its probably because the huge amount of middleeastern in you(tbh, you kind of do have a shitton of middleeastern component in you, like harrappaworld. You got like 30% SW-asian, while spanish get up to max 8%, i think)+ some of the SSA and that ANA component.

Probably also why youre far from west asians and middleeasterners apart from egyptians due to being too euro for middleeasterners as well.

I'm not North African, I'm Brazilian. I'm just interested in discussing about genetics and anthropology of different human groups. I don't have any personal/ethnic agenda.


Anyone got any south american coordinates? And i mean like the avg latino ones, not fully amerindian ones

I can show you my GEDmatch results, but I'm fully Euro so it wouldn't be that useful.

The problem with ''South Americans'' is that most of these averages are falso averages, there's a big ton of South Americans who would be near Europeans in PCA plots because they have recent European ancestry and also some who would be intermediary between Europeans and Amerindians or Europeans and Black Africans.

''South American/Latino'' isn't an ethnicity like Afghan, Berber, Spanish, German etc. You can have South Americans with Bantu results and others with German results. And anything in between.

Look at these three Brazilians I posted, they would be closer to Europeans, but that's because most of their ancestry is European:

#1

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.9
2 Baltic 20.93
3 West_Med 13.89
4 East_Med 12.01
5 Amerindian 3.88
6 West_Asian 3.46
7 Red_Sea 2.87
8 Sub-Saharan 0.97
9 East_Asian 0.7
10 South_Asian 0.3
11 Siberian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 6.61
2 South_Dutch 7.51
3 French 7.68
4 Austrian 10.79
5 Southeast_English 11.53
6 North_German 12.17
7 East_German 12.62
8 Hungarian 13.32
9 Danish 13.38
10 North_Dutch 13.45
11 Orcadian 13.46
12 Southwest_English 13.53
13 Spanish_Cataluna 14.11
14 Portuguese 14.3
15 Irish 14.51
16 Spanish_Galicia 14.64
17 West_Scottish 14.79
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 14.88
19 Serbian 15.34
20 Norwegian 15.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.7% Orcadian + 28.3% Ashkenazi @ 4.88
2 95.9% West_German + 4.1% Mayan @ 4.94
3 72.1% Norwegian + 27.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.97
4 96.4% West_German + 3.6% Karitiana @ 4.97
5 96.1% West_German + 3.9% Pima @ 4.97
6 75.4% Southeast_English + 24.6% Ashkenazi @ 5.02
7 71.6% Norwegian + 28.4% Italian_Jewish @ 5.07
8 95.7% West_German + 4.3% North_Amerindian @ 5.08
9 93.4% West_German + 6.6% Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.13
10 85.1% Southeast_English + 14.9% Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.18
11 91.6% South_Dutch + 8.4% Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.22
12 75.2% North_Dutch + 24.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.23
13 75.2% Orcadian + 24.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.24
14 69.6% West_Scottish + 30.4% Ashkenazi @ 5.24
15 82.7% Southeast_English + 17.3% Egyptian @ 5.28
16 70.1% Irish + 29.9% Ashkenazi @ 5.28
17 82.8% Southeast_English + 17.2% Bedouin @ 5.3
18 73.8% Norwegian + 26.2% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.31
19 93.5% West_German + 6.5% Saudi @ 5.31
20 65.3% Norwegian + 34.7% West_Sicilian @ 5.32


#2

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 22.07
2 North_Sea 19.98
3 West_Med 18.48
4 East_Med 17.20
5 Sub-Saharan 9.29
6 Baltic 6.63
7 West_Asian 2.92
8 Amerindian 1.17
9 Northeast_African 1.63
10 Southeast_Asian 0.66


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 11.288081
2 Portuguese @ 13.417282
3 Spanish_Extremadura @ 13.978487
4 Tuscan @ 13.982700
5 Spanish_Galicia @ 14.048018
6 Spanish_Murcia @ 14.060198
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 14.643301
8 Spanish_Cataluna @ 14.951139
9 Spanish_Andalucia @ 15.560223
10 Spanish_Valencia @ 16.148897
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 16.202169
12 West_Sicilian @ 16.842110
13 Spanish_Cantabria @ 17.902824
14 Greek_Thessaly @ 18.970901
15 French @ 19.165697
16 Romanian @ 20.481922
17 Bulgarian @ 20.547400
18 Serbian @ 20.689098
19 Spanish_Aragon @ 20.872822
20 Italian_Abruzzo @ 20.999392

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +50% Tunisian @ 9.087311


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Italian +25% Tunisian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 8.046132


Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian + North_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 8.605293
2 Tunisian + North_Italian + North_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 8.635637
3 Tunisian + North_Italian + North_Italian + Spanish_Murcia @ 8.682710
4 Tunisian + North_Italian + North_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 8.718940
5 Tunisian + North_Italian + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 8.724600
6 Irish + Tunisian + North_Italian + Spanish_Murcia @ 8.734736
7 Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna + Tuscan @ 8.742552
8 Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 8.743255
9 Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian + North_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 8.745818
10 Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna + Tuscan @ 8.770713
11 Tunisian + Irish + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 8.784138
12 Tunisian+ North_Italian + North_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 8.787457
13 Irish + Tunisian + Italian_Abruzzo + Sardinian @ 8.796466
14 Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Tuscan + West_Scottish @ 8.807664
15 Tunisian + Italian_Abruzzo + Sardinian + West_Scottish @ 8.811526
16 Irish + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 8.816991
17 Irish + Italian_Abruzzo + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian @ 8.822556
18 Tunisian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Tuscan @ 8.834306
19 Italian_Abruzzo + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + West_Scottish @ 8.837315
20 Tunisian + Sardinian + Tuscan + West_Scottish @ 8.840179

These first two would be ''criollos'', people in the 85%-100% European range (the first is 95-96% European, the second around ~90-92% considering that around 2-4% of his SSA likely came through Southern European ancestors ).

3# This one has a bit higher admixture compared to the first two, likely around 80% European

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 22.18
2 West_Med 17.84
3 Sub-Saharan 14.91
4 North_Sea 10.71
5 Baltic 6.74
6 East_Med 6.35
7 Amerindian 5.28
8 Red_Sea 4.19
9 Eastern_Euro 4.07
10 West_Asian 3.98
11 Northeast_African 3.77

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 20.98
2 Portuguese 21.21
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.37
4 Spanish_Galicia 21.52
5 Spanish_Murcia 21.66
6 Spanish_Andalucia 21.71
7 North_Italian 22.12
8 Spanish_Cataluna 22.36
9 Spanish_Valencia 22.41
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 22.48
11 Spanish_Cantabria 22.54
12 Southwest_French 23.42
13 Tuscan 23.72
14 Spanish_Aragon 23.74
15 French 24.82
16 Serbian 24.87
17 Romanian 24.88
18 Bulgarian 24.95
19 Mozabite_Berber 25.76
20 West_Sicilian 26.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 18.9% Biaka_Pygmy @ 8.37
2 79.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 20.1% Bantu_N.E. @ 8.38
3 80.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 19.9% Luhya @ 8.42
4 81.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 18.1% Bantu_S.E. @ 8.48
5 82.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 17.9% Bantu_S.W. @ 8.55
6 81.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 18.2% Biaka_Pygmy @ 8.6
7 80.6% Spanish_Extremadura + 19.4% Bantu_N.E. @ 8.66
8 82.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 17.5% Bantu_S.E. @ 8.67
9 80.9% Spanish_Extremadura + 19.1% Luhya @ 8.68
10 79.4% Spanish_Valencia + 20.6% Bantu_N.E. @ 8.71
11 78.5% Southwest_French + 21.5% Bantu_N.E. @ 8.72
12 82.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 17.2% Bantu_S.W. @ 8.72
13 82.6% Spanish_Andalucia + 17.4% Mandenka @ 8.75
14 79.7% Spanish_Valencia + 20.3% Luhya @ 8.77
15 79.6% Spanish_Andalucia + 20.4% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 8.77
16 78.8% Southwest_French + 21.2% Luhya @ 8.79
17 79.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 20.6% Bantu_N.E. @ 8.84
18 80.6% Spanish_Valencia + 19.4% Biaka_Pygmy @ 8.85
19 80.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 19.4% Biaka_Pygmy @ 8.85
20 79.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 20.4% Luhya @ 8.89

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 03:26 PM
Actually ANA contributed a lot to the iberomaurusian dna so it's not fully west eurasian :

https://i.imgur.com/UhzrhwC.jpg

Im not really good at this stuff tbh, but just all in all then, how much "west eurasian" in % are both avg morroccons, most "west eurasian shifted" north morrocans and southern morroccans as well?

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 03:31 PM
I'm not North African, I'm Brazilian. I'm just interested in discussing about genetics and anthropology of different human groups. I don't have any personal/ethnic agenda.



I can show you my GEDmatch results, but I'm fully Euro so it wouldn't be that useful.

The problem with ''South Americans'' is that most of these averages are falso averages, there's a big ton of South Americans who would be near Europeans in PCA plots because they have recent European ancestry and also some who would be intermediary between Europeans and Amerindians or Europeans and Black Africans.

''South American/Latino'' isn't an ethnicity like Afghan, Berber, Spanish, German etc. You can have South Americans with Bantu results and others with German results. And anything in between.

Look at these three Brazilians I posted, they would be closer to Europeans, but that's because most of their ancestry is European:

#1

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.9
2 Baltic 20.93
3 West_Med 13.89
4 East_Med 12.01
5 Amerindian 3.88
6 West_Asian 3.46
7 Red_Sea 2.87
8 Sub-Saharan 0.97
9 East_Asian 0.7
10 South_Asian 0.3
11 Siberian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 6.61
2 South_Dutch 7.51
3 French 7.68
4 Austrian 10.79
5 Southeast_English 11.53
6 North_German 12.17
7 East_German 12.62
8 Hungarian 13.32
9 Danish 13.38
10 North_Dutch 13.45
11 Orcadian 13.46
12 Southwest_English 13.53
13 Spanish_Cataluna 14.11
14 Portuguese 14.3
15 Irish 14.51
16 Spanish_Galicia 14.64
17 West_Scottish 14.79
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 14.88
19 Serbian 15.34
20 Norwegian 15.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.7% Orcadian + 28.3% Ashkenazi @ 4.88
2 95.9% West_German + 4.1% Mayan @ 4.94
3 72.1% Norwegian + 27.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.97
4 96.4% West_German + 3.6% Karitiana @ 4.97
5 96.1% West_German + 3.9% Pima @ 4.97
6 75.4% Southeast_English + 24.6% Ashkenazi @ 5.02
7 71.6% Norwegian + 28.4% Italian_Jewish @ 5.07
8 95.7% West_German + 4.3% North_Amerindian @ 5.08
9 93.4% West_German + 6.6% Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.13
10 85.1% Southeast_English + 14.9% Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.18
11 91.6% South_Dutch + 8.4% Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.22
12 75.2% North_Dutch + 24.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.23
13 75.2% Orcadian + 24.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.24
14 69.6% West_Scottish + 30.4% Ashkenazi @ 5.24
15 82.7% Southeast_English + 17.3% Egyptian @ 5.28
16 70.1% Irish + 29.9% Ashkenazi @ 5.28
17 82.8% Southeast_English + 17.2% Bedouin @ 5.3
18 73.8% Norwegian + 26.2% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.31
19 93.5% West_German + 6.5% Saudi @ 5.31
20 65.3% Norwegian + 34.7% West_Sicilian @ 5.32


#2

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 22.07
2 North_Sea 19.98
3 West_Med 18.48
4 East_Med 17.20
5 Sub-Saharan 9.29
6 Baltic 6.63
7 West_Asian 2.92
8 Amerindian 1.17
9 Northeast_African 1.63
10 Southeast_Asian 0.66


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 11.288081
2 Portuguese @ 13.417282
3 Spanish_Extremadura @ 13.978487
4 Tuscan @ 13.982700
5 Spanish_Galicia @ 14.048018
6 Spanish_Murcia @ 14.060198
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 14.643301
8 Spanish_Cataluna @ 14.951139
9 Spanish_Andalucia @ 15.560223
10 Spanish_Valencia @ 16.148897
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 16.202169
12 West_Sicilian @ 16.842110
13 Spanish_Cantabria @ 17.902824
14 Greek_Thessaly @ 18.970901
15 French @ 19.165697
16 Romanian @ 20.481922
17 Bulgarian @ 20.547400
18 Serbian @ 20.689098
19 Spanish_Aragon @ 20.872822
20 Italian_Abruzzo @ 20.999392

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +50% Tunisian @ 9.087311


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Italian +25% Tunisian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 8.046132


Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian + North_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 8.605293
2 Tunisian + North_Italian + North_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 8.635637
3 Tunisian + North_Italian + North_Italian + Spanish_Murcia @ 8.682710
4 Tunisian + North_Italian + North_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 8.718940
5 Tunisian + North_Italian + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 8.724600
6 Irish + Tunisian + North_Italian + Spanish_Murcia @ 8.734736
7 Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna + Tuscan @ 8.742552
8 Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 8.743255
9 Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian + North_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 8.745818
10 Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna + Tuscan @ 8.770713
11 Tunisian + Irish + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 8.784138
12 Tunisian+ North_Italian + North_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 8.787457
13 Irish + Tunisian + Italian_Abruzzo + Sardinian @ 8.796466
14 Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Tuscan + West_Scottish @ 8.807664
15 Tunisian + Italian_Abruzzo + Sardinian + West_Scottish @ 8.811526
16 Irish + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + Tuscan @ 8.816991
17 Irish + Italian_Abruzzo + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian @ 8.822556
18 Tunisian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Tuscan @ 8.834306
19 Italian_Abruzzo + Mozabite_Berber + Sardinian + West_Scottish @ 8.837315
20 Tunisian + Sardinian + Tuscan + West_Scottish @ 8.840179

These first two would be ''criollos'', people in the 85%-100% European range (the first is 95-96% European, the second around ~90-92% considering that around 2-4% of his SSA likely came through Southern European ancestors ).

3# This one has a bit higher admixture compared to the first two, likely around 80% European

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 22.18
2 West_Med 17.84
3 Sub-Saharan 14.91
4 North_Sea 10.71
5 Baltic 6.74
6 East_Med 6.35
7 Amerindian 5.28
8 Red_Sea 4.19
9 Eastern_Euro 4.07
10 West_Asian 3.98
11 Northeast_African 3.77

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 20.98
2 Portuguese 21.21
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.37
4 Spanish_Galicia 21.52
5 Spanish_Murcia 21.66
6 Spanish_Andalucia 21.71
7 North_Italian 22.12
8 Spanish_Cataluna 22.36
9 Spanish_Valencia 22.41
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 22.48
11 Spanish_Cantabria 22.54
12 Southwest_French 23.42
13 Tuscan 23.72
14 Spanish_Aragon 23.74
15 French 24.82
16 Serbian 24.87
17 Romanian 24.88
18 Bulgarian 24.95
19 Mozabite_Berber 25.76
20 West_Sicilian 26.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 18.9% Biaka_Pygmy @ 8.37
2 79.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 20.1% Bantu_N.E. @ 8.38
3 80.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 19.9% Luhya @ 8.42
4 81.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 18.1% Bantu_S.E. @ 8.48
5 82.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 17.9% Bantu_S.W. @ 8.55
6 81.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 18.2% Biaka_Pygmy @ 8.6
7 80.6% Spanish_Extremadura + 19.4% Bantu_N.E. @ 8.66
8 82.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 17.5% Bantu_S.E. @ 8.67
9 80.9% Spanish_Extremadura + 19.1% Luhya @ 8.68
10 79.4% Spanish_Valencia + 20.6% Bantu_N.E. @ 8.71
11 78.5% Southwest_French + 21.5% Bantu_N.E. @ 8.72
12 82.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 17.2% Bantu_S.W. @ 8.72
13 82.6% Spanish_Andalucia + 17.4% Mandenka @ 8.75
14 79.7% Spanish_Valencia + 20.3% Luhya @ 8.77
15 79.6% Spanish_Andalucia + 20.4% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 8.77
16 78.8% Southwest_French + 21.2% Luhya @ 8.79
17 79.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 20.6% Bantu_N.E. @ 8.84
18 80.6% Spanish_Valencia + 19.4% Biaka_Pygmy @ 8.85
19 80.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 19.4% Biaka_Pygmy @ 8.85
20 79.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 20.4% Luhya @ 8.89

Well, i assume then avg mexican is somewhat a mix between SSA, amerindian and euro(i already knew about how diverse brazilians and other south americans are though....i just want "harnizo" coordinates. But its ok if you cant send me any), and i would be interested in their coordinates then.

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 03:35 PM
How so? If it was mostly asi then surely the pashtun results would have gotten up to 15% asi in total. Rather they get around 7%. This is including the trace amounts of asi in the BMAC sample too.

Ok, pashtuns on avg get 8% asi then. How much would punjabis at least get asi? Like 20%? Just curious now

Adamastor
01-15-2020, 03:38 PM
Well, i assume then avg mexican is somewhat a mix between SSA, amerindian and euro(i already knew about how diverse brazilians and other south americans are though....i just want "harnizo" coordinates. But its ok if you cant send me any), and i would be interested in their coordinates then.

Mexicans don't have substantial SSA, their average is like 55% Amerindian and 45% European. There are very few Latin Americans apart from Brazilians in the range of 80-90%+ European ancestry in G25, so it's not really useful.

You should try with GEDmatch, member Reyzuh is a Mestizo Mexican and he posted his results..

Avicenna
01-15-2020, 03:39 PM
Ok, pashtuns on avg get 8% asi then. How much would punjabis at least get asi? Like 20%? Just curious now

Northern India/Pakistan:

Brahmin

53.7% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
23.6% Steppe_MLBA_East
22.6% AASI

"distance%=0.3445 / distance=0.003445"

Punjabi

54.05% Shahr_I_Sokhta
31.00% AASI
13.20% Steppe_MLBA_East
1.75% West_Siberia_N

"distance%=0.3536 / distance=0.003536"

Adamastor
01-15-2020, 03:42 PM
Actually ANA contributed a lot to the iberomaurusian dna so it's not fully west eurasian :

https://i.imgur.com/UhzrhwC.jpg

ANA is also basal to Basal Eurasians, it isn't necessarily non-West Eurasian, but it's hard to define exactly. It's an Archaic component. If it was a SSA component it would mean most Eurasians would be SSA admixed.

Based on anthropometry most ANA skulls have been defined as ''Caucasoid'' by anthropologists, but they also found ''Negroid'' skulls in parts of ancient North Africa. Even in pre-dynastic Egypt they have found Negroid skulls.

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 03:44 PM
Northern India/Pakistan:

Brahmin

53.7% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
23.6% Steppe_MLBA_East
22.6% AASI

"distance%=0.3445 / distance=0.003445"

Punjabi

54.05% Shahr_I_Sokhta
31.00% AASI
13.20% Steppe_MLBA_East
1.75% West_Siberia_N

"distance%=0.3536 / distance=0.003536"

But then even the punjabi brahmin would get like 31% asi. Either that's some central indian sample or a really south asian shifted north indian brahmin or there's something wrong with vahado and pashtuns like me should be a lot closer to pamiris than to the former(i believe its more like the fact that the north indian brahmin just is really asi shifted for avg nw south asians). I think honestly khatris should on avg get then 18% asi. 31% just sounds too high for a nw south asian, if kalashis can easily get 11% asi

Avicenna
01-15-2020, 03:47 PM
But then even the punjabi brahmin would get like 31% asi. Either that some central indian sample or a really south asian shifted north indian brahmin or there's something wrong with vahado and pashtuns like me should be a lot closer to pamiris than to the former(i believe its more like the fact that the north indian brahmin just is really asi shifted for avg nw south asians). I think honestly khatris should on avg get then 18% asi. 31% just sounds too high for a nw south asian, if kalashis can easily get 11% asi

Yes but you and the other afghans are closer to tajik ishkashimis, rushans and even some yaghnobis than kambojas and rors ( who are the most western shifted least asi nw south asians). You could be right though.

Nassbean
01-15-2020, 03:54 PM
Im not really good at this stuff tbh, but just all in all then, how much "west eurasian" in % are both avg morroccons, most "west eurasian shifted" north morrocans and southern morroccans as well?

Unfortunately I didn't find the thread where me and another moroccan member posted our west eurasian score but If I remember correctly I scored 89% while he scored 90% based on multiple gedmatch calculators. Now based on G25 results I'd say the average is around 85 and for southern moroccans around 75-80 (the most west eurasian shifted reach easily the 90%)

Avicenna
01-15-2020, 03:55 PM
But then even the punjabi brahmin would get like 31% asi. Either that's some central indian sample or a really south asian shifted north indian brahmin or there's something wrong with vahado and pashtuns like me should be a lot closer to pamiris than to the former(i believe its more like the fact that the north indian brahmin just is really asi shifted for avg nw south asians). I think honestly khatris should on avg get then 18% asi. 31% just sounds too high for a nw south asian, if kalashis can easily get 11% asi

Some ancient swat Valley results and brahuis too

Ancient Swat Valley:

Barikot_IA

46.00% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
13.75% Sappali_Tepe_BA + 8.80% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
18.85% Steppe_MLBA_East
8.90% AASI
1.95% Mongola
0.95% West_Siberia_N

"distance%=0.1831 / distance=0.001831"

Udegram_IA

44.75% Shahr_I_Soktha_BA2
11.20% Shahr_I_Soktha_BA1 + 8.75% Sappali_Tepe_BA
15.75% Steppe_MLBA_East
9.55% AASI
4.45% West_Siberia_N
3.85% Seh_Gabi_ChL
1.70% Mongola

"distance%=0.155 / distance=0.00155"

Brahui:

27.10% Wezmeh_Cave_N
24.80% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
23.70% Steppe_MLBA_East
18.40% Seh_Gabi_Chl
6.00% AASI

"distance%=0.2244 / distance=0.002244"

Brahuis have higher asi than Pashtuns and Tajiks, although lack BMAC related admixture.

Adamastor
01-15-2020, 04:11 PM
Unfortunately I didn't find the thread where me and another moroccan member posted our west eurasian score but If I remember correctly I scored 89% while he scored 90% based on multiple gedmatch calculators. Now based on G25 results I'd say the average is around 85 and for southern moroccans around 75-80 (the most west eurasian shifted reach easily the 90%)

How a North African can score 90% West Eurasian in GEDmatch? I agree you guys are probably in that range in more accurate calculators, but most GEDmatch calculators give Moroccans 18-20% or more of SSA.

In Gedrosia K3 I've seen even Iberians with only 89-90% West Eurasian (due to Iberomaurusian stuff, Portuguese member Pedro Ruben is 89% West Eurasian there). North Africans are likely in the 75-80% range in this calculator.

Nassbean
01-15-2020, 04:15 PM
How a North African can score 90% West Eurasian in GEDmatch? I agree you guys are probably in that range in more accurate calculators, but most GEDmatch calculators give Moroccans 18-20% or more of SSA.

In Gedrosia K3 I've seen even Iberians with only 89-90% West Eurasian (due to Iberomaurusian stuff, Portuguese member Pedro Ruben is 89% West Eurasian there). North Africans are likely in the 75-80% range in this calculator.

I forget on which calculator it was based but don't forget that the north-east african component should be divided in two and that our ssa was low (under 10%). Wait I will try to find that thread

(P.S : pedro ruben is 96% caucasoid)

Adamastor
01-15-2020, 04:24 PM
I forget on which calculator it was based but don't forget that the north-east african component should be divided in two and that our ssa was low (under 10%). Wait I will try to find that thread

I don't know exactly what makes the Northeast African component, but it's certainly predominantly SSA because Horners score half of it and the rest is split between Red Sea, East Med, Southwest Asian etc. Bantu groups score Northeast African in the 20s-30s range, it's impossible for them to be 15% West Eurasian/Caucasoid.

It seems both 'Northeast_African' and 'Sub-Saharan' components are SSA, but in the case of North Africans and North African admixed populations part of this SSA is ''fake'' SSA through ANA. In calculators with Iberomaurusian reference this SSA disappears.

Grace O'Malley
01-15-2020, 04:30 PM
Just looking at Galicia and they are closer to North African populations like North Moroccan than Pashtuns. I think that is interesting. Interested in theories about why Irish are closer to Pashtuns than North Africans and Galicia is closer to North Africans than Pashtuns? I find that sort of thing fascinating but that might just be me. :) Also yes there are far bigger distances between Spanish regions than between Northwestern Euros.

Just posting Galicia's closest populations.

Distance to: Spanish_Galicia
0.00989610 Portuguese
0.01128800 Spanish_Andalucia
0.01200248 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.01223702 Spanish_Extremadura
0.01236979 Spanish_Alacant
0.01413423 Spanish_Valencia
0.01417156 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.01492170 Spanish_Eivissa
0.01524143 Spanish_Cataluna
0.01544949 Spanish_Murcia
0.01660561 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.01791894 Spanish_Aragon
0.01797995 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.01819283 Spanish_Pirineu
0.01825204 Spanish_Mallorca
0.01863444 Spanish_Baleares
0.01957865 Spanish_Penedes
0.01959706 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.01968454 Spanish_Girona
0.01984970 Spanish_Menorca
0.02019516 Spanish_Lleida
0.02047583 Spanish_Castello
0.02072205 Spanish_Barcelones
0.02138116 Spanish_Cantabria
0.02168869 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02289538 Spanish_Navarra
0.02705552 Spanish_Asturias
0.02996167 French_Provence
0.03037258 French_Auvergne
0.03059919 French_South
0.03276619 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03358094 French_Occitanie
0.03402264 Swiss_French
0.03467229 Spanish_Canarias
0.03506669 Italian_Bergamo
0.03558453 Spanish_Soria
0.03579636 Italian_Veneto
0.03644483 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.03765718 Italian_Lombardy
0.03778749 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.03797133 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03868547 Italian_Liguria
0.04032769 Italian_Northeast
0.04131446 Basque_French
0.04192399 Italian_Piedmont
0.04217231 French_Corsica
0.04288409 Swiss_Italian
0.04432519 Basque_Spanish
0.04517016 Swiss_German
0.04523417 French_Paris
0.04716310 French_Alsace
0.04769092 French_Nord
0.04890342 Italian_Tuscany
0.05130675 Belgian

Distance to: Spanish_Galicia
0.18209626 Moroccan_North
0.18653177 Tajik_Shugnan
0.18771422 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.19009627 Egyptian
0.19162093 Tatar_Lipka
0.19164073 Parsi_Pakistan
0.19263002 Yemenite_Amran
0.19272695 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.19281026 Tajik
0.19430873 Parsi_India
0.19569094 Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.19915720 Tunisian
0.20000982 Besermyan
0.20113504 Iranian_Bandari
0.20199459 Tajik_Ishkashim
0.20214521 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.20368280 Libyan
0.20428966 Yemenite_Al_Bayda
0.20507326 Yemenite_Jew
0.20640954 Yemenite_Ma'rib
0.20851795 Yemenite_Al_Jawf
0.21005118 Algerian
0.21279787 BedouinB
0.21401099 Saudi
0.21408327 Chuvash
0.21472939 Mozabite
0.21850976 Udmurt
0.21869768 Yemenite_Mahra
0.22368247 Turkmen
0.22490000 Saami
0.22704649 Makrani
0.22710010 Uthmankhel
0.22804782 Tarkalani
0.23030829 Jatt_Pathak
0.23054432 Balochi
0.23104076 Ror
0.23113643 Moroccan
0.23225381 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.23302312 Yusufzai
0.23333881 Brahui
0.23417321 Pashtun
0.23461626 Kho_Singanali
0.23839665 Kalash
0.24029805 Berber_MAR_ERR
0.24333546 Kamboj
0.25239616 Saharawi
0.25264004 Punjabi_Jatt
0.25775355 Berber_MAR_TIZ

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 04:35 PM
Some ancient swat Valley results and brahuis too

Ancient Swat Valley:

Barikot_IA

46.00% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
13.75% Sappali_Tepe_BA + 8.80% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
18.85% Steppe_MLBA_East
8.90% AASI
1.95% Mongola
0.95% West_Siberia_N

"distance%=0.1831 / distance=0.001831"

Udegram_IA

44.75% Shahr_I_Soktha_BA2
11.20% Shahr_I_Soktha_BA1 + 8.75% Sappali_Tepe_BA
15.75% Steppe_MLBA_East
9.55% AASI
4.45% West_Siberia_N
3.85% Seh_Gabi_ChL
1.70% Mongola

"distance%=0.155 / distance=0.00155"

Brahui:

27.10% Wezmeh_Cave_N
24.80% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
23.70% Steppe_MLBA_East
18.40% Seh_Gabi_Chl
6.00% AASI

"distance%=0.2244 / distance=0.002244"

Brahuis have higher asi than Pashtuns and Tajiks, although lack BMAC related admixture.

Apparently according to these, barikot samples would get like 16,72% asi, while the other 17,15% asi and the brahui sample around 9% asi.


However though, remember that guy who posted the modelling results for shahr i sokteh BA2? That one that got 34% aasi and 2/3 Iran n? Although the fit wasnt too good(5), if it really had that low aasi(17%) then i wouldnt get anywhere near 30% aasi. Not even near 24% aasi. And it got a whooping 31% aasi.

Normally if the fits arent too good, then the west eurasiana and east eurasian admix can screw a bit up, like if youre a syrian and got modelled inbetween a steppe reference and a saudi arab reference. But its east eurasian admix shouldnt screw up too much if it got modelled with some SSA(and if syrians had SSA, but neither saudi or steppe did....yeah, i know. Saudis can get SSA, but its just an example)..

Anyway, even without my arguments on why we dont get that low aasi, if the shahr i sokteh BA2 really got 17% aasi only, it wouldnt get anywhere near 30% aasi as it did. Even with bad fit, unless it has shitton of east eurasian(cant be mong or african, only aasi, since thats the only east eurasian component they get the most of).



edit: But actually, tbh even if the aasi was that high, it wouldnt change much. We still wouldnt get more than 10% aasi(at least southerners).

Sarbani Pashtun, Southwestern plateau

55.40% Sappali_Tepe_BA
26.10% Steppe_MLBA_East
8.65% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
5.60% AASI
4.25% Mongola


If you put all the aasi together, you get this: 34 x 0.0865= 2.941

2.941 + 5.60= 8.541% aasi

Nassbean
01-15-2020, 04:35 PM
I don't know exactly what makes the Northeast African component, but it's certainly predominantly SSA because Horners score half of it and the rest is split between Red Sea, East Med, Southwest Asian etc. Bantu groups score Northeast African in the 20s-30s range, it's impossible for them to be 15% West Eurasian/Caucasoid.

It seems both 'Northeast_African' and 'Sub-Saharan' components are SSA, but in the case of North Africans and North African admixed populations part of this SSA is ''fake'' SSA through ANA. In calculators with Iberomaurusian reference this SSA disappears.

It depends which calculator we're talking about I think but the northeast african component is if I remember correctly around 50-55% caucasoid but all of this is meaningless because we both know that berbers don't really have it it's definitely from ANA. And idk for this component among modern bantus but yes it's possible for them to score such amount :


"Moreover, our model predicts that West Africans (represented by Yoruba) had 12.5±1.1% ancestry from a Taforalt-related group rather than Taforalt having ancestry from an unknown Sub-Saharan African source11; this may have mediated the limited Neanderthal admixture present in West Africans23. An advantage of our model is that it allows for a local North African component in the ancestry of Taforalt, rather than deriving them exclusively from Levantine and Sub-Saharan sources." https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/423079v1.full

so it wouldn't surprise me.

now based on G25 results here take a look at some moroccan samples :

https://i.imgur.com/XjJfkEE.png

Now it all depends if you consider the iberomaurusian component to be fully caucasoid but as I said the average for Morocco is between 75-85%

Adamastor
01-15-2020, 04:41 PM
It depends which calculator we're talking about I think but the northeast african component is if I remember correctly around 50-55% caucasoid but all of this is meaningless because we both know that berbers don't really have it it's definitely from ANA. And idk for this component among modern bantus but yes it's possible for them to score such amount :


I agree, but I'm talking about Bantus from Central Africa, West Africans usually show up as 98%+ 'Sub-Saharan' in GEDmatch. Probably part of their ANA is hidden in ''Sub-Saharan'' not only in 'Northeast African'.

But I already said I agree with you, a substantial part of the SSA Berbers score in GEDmatch isn't real black ancestry.


Just looking at Galicia and they are closer to North African populations like North Moroccan than Pashtuns. I think that is interesting. Interested in theories about why Irish are closer to Pashtuns than North Africans and Galicia is closer to North Africans than Pashtuns? I find that sort of thing fascinating but that might just be me. :) Also yes there are far bigger distances between Spanish regions than between Northwestern Euros.

Just posting Galicia's closest populations.


It happens because Galicians are among the Iberians with more North African admixture, around 10-11%.

Grace O'Malley
01-15-2020, 04:48 PM
I agree, but I'm talking about Bantus from Central Africa, West Africans usually show up as 98%+ 'Sub-Saharan' in GEDmatch. Probably part of their ANA is hidden in ''Sub-Saharan'' not only in 'Northeast African'.

But I already said I agree with you, a substantial part of the SSA Berbers score in GEDmatch isn't real black ancestry.



It happens because Galicians are among the Iberians with more North African admixture, around 10-11%.

I'd say it's the same for all of Spain and most likely all of Southern Europe. There are some interesting little quirks that pop up if you look at populations. By this Extremadura is closer to Moroccan_North than Galicia is.

Distance to: Spanish_Extremadura
0.17687134 Moroccan_North
0.17837401 Tajik_Rushan
0.18328356 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.18386884 Egyptian
0.18583163 Tajik_Shugnan
0.18629762 Yemenite_Amran
0.18729247 Parsi_Pakistan
0.18763309 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.18989537 Parsi_India
0.19004888 Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.19254570 Tajik
0.19384836 Tunisian
0.19518570 Tatar_Lipka
0.19592234 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.19661642 Iranian_Bandari
0.19803181 Yemenite_Al_Bayda
0.19804428 Libyan
0.19899034 Yemenite_Jew
0.20030949 Yemenite_Ma'rib
0.20079788 Tajik_Ishkashim
0.20239384 Yemenite_Al_Jawf
0.20401940 Besermyan
0.20493250 Algerian
0.20656514 BedouinB
0.20782115 Saudi
0.20988329 Mozabite
0.21263139 Yemenite_Mahra
0.21779547 Chuvash
0.22249737 Udmurt
0.22273930 Makrani
0.22464818 Turkmen
0.22472573 Uthmankhel
0.22551264 Tarkalani
0.22597676 Moroccan
0.22698387 Balochi
0.22864040 Jatt_Pathak
0.22926144 Ror
0.22973347 Brahui
0.22985230 Saami
0.23049879 Yusufzai
0.23182673 Pashtun
0.23308601 Kho_Singanali
0.23328355 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.23565003 Berber_MAR_ERR
0.23643770 Kalash
0.24067058 Kamboj
0.24761133 Saharawi
0.25033023 Punjabi_Jatt
0.25314256 Berber_MAR_TIZ
0.25650275 Khatri
0.26007912 Kohistani
0.26064601 Sindhi

Avicenna
01-15-2020, 04:49 PM
Apparently according to these, barikot samples would get like 16,72% asi, while the other 17,15% asi and the brahui sample around 9% asi.


However though, remember that guy who posted the modelling results for shahr i sokteh BA2? That one that got 34% aasi and 2/3 Iran n? Although the fit wasnt too good(5), if it really had that low aasi(17%) then i wouldnt get anywhere near 30% aasi. Not even near 24% aasi. And it got a whooping 31% aasi.

Normally if the fits arent too good, then the west eurasiana and east eurasian admix can screw a bit up, like if youre a syrian and got modelled inbetween a steppe reference and a saudi arab reference. But its east eurasian admix shouldnt screw up too much if it got modelled with some SSA(and if syrians had SSA, but neither saudi or steppe did....yeah, i know. Saudis can get SSA, but its just an example)..

Anyway, even without my arguments on why we dont get that low aasi, if the shahr i sokteh BA2 really got 17% aasi only, it wouldnt get anywhere near 30% aasi as it did. Even with bad fit, unless it has shitton of east eurasian(cant be mong or african, only aasi, since thats the only east eurasian component they get the most of).

Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2

64.25% Iran_N
17.45% AASI
11.55% AfontovaGora3
6.75% CHG

sample": "IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:Average",
"fit": 4.9178,
"IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N": 65.83,
"Simulated_AASI": 34.17

The simulated aasi contains AfontovaGora + CHG. Which accounts to 34%.

Adamastor
01-15-2020, 04:51 PM
I'd say it's the same for all of Spain and most likely all of Southern Europe. There are some interesting little quirks that pop up if you look at populations. By this Extremadura is closer to Moroccan_North than Galicia is.

Distance to: Spanish_Extremadura
0.17687134 Moroccan_North
0.17837401 Tajik_Rushan
0.18328356 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.18386884 Egyptian
0.18583163 Tajik_Shugnan
0.18629762 Yemenite_Amran
0.18729247 Parsi_Pakistan
0.18763309 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.18989537 Parsi_India
0.19004888 Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.19254570 Tajik
0.19384836 Tunisian
0.19518570 Tatar_Lipka
0.19592234 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.19661642 Iranian_Bandari
0.19803181 Yemenite_Al_Bayda
0.19804428 Libyan
0.19899034 Yemenite_Jew
0.20030949 Yemenite_Ma'rib
0.20079788 Tajik_Ishkashim
0.20239384 Yemenite_Al_Jawf
0.20401940 Besermyan
0.20493250 Algerian
0.20656514 BedouinB
0.20782115 Saudi
0.20988329 Mozabite
0.21263139 Yemenite_Mahra
0.21779547 Chuvash
0.22249737 Udmurt
0.22273930 Makrani
0.22464818 Turkmen
0.22472573 Uthmankhel
0.22551264 Tarkalani
0.22597676 Moroccan
0.22698387 Balochi
0.22864040 Jatt_Pathak
0.22926144 Ror
0.22973347 Brahui
0.22985230 Saami
0.23049879 Yusufzai
0.23182673 Pashtun
0.23308601 Kho_Singanali
0.23328355 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.23565003 Berber_MAR_ERR
0.23643770 Kalash
0.24067058 Kamboj
0.24761133 Saharawi
0.25033023 Punjabi_Jatt
0.25314256 Berber_MAR_TIZ
0.25650275 Khatri
0.26007912 Kohistani
0.26064601 Sindhi

Extremadurans also have high North African admixture, even higher than Galicians and Portuguese. Some of them can reach 13-14%.

Try with North Italians, Tuscans, Southwest French, Balkanites and the results may be different.

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 04:52 PM
Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2

64.25% Iran_N
17.45% AASI
11.55% AfontovaGora3
6.75% CHG

sample": "IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:Average",
"fit": 4.9178,
"IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N": 65.83,
"Simulated_AASI": 34.17

The simulated aasi contains AfontovaGora + CHG. Which accounts to 34%.

Where does it say that? In the link you posted in the other thread? Could you post that one to me?

Avicenna
01-15-2020, 04:57 PM
Where does it say that? In the link you posted in the other thread? Could you post that one to me?

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/04/bronze-age-central-asia-terra-incognita.html?m=1

Yeah man it's in the comment section. I thought shahr sokhta ba1 was IVC but it's actually BMAC

Grace O'Malley
01-15-2020, 05:05 PM
Distance to: Italian_Tuscany
0.16759870 Parsi_Pakistan
0.16790811 Vepsian
0.16848281 Yemenite_Amran
0.16873697 Latvian
0.16878918 Finnish_East
0.17024918 Parsi_India
0.17390699 Russian_Pinega
0.17474242 Tatar_Kazan
0.17505955 Egyptian
0.17524459 Tajik_Shugnan
0.17931742 Iranian_Bandari
0.17981196 Tajik
0.17992965 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.18120774 Yemenite_Jew
0.18191938 Komi
0.18264729 Yemenite_Al_Bayda
0.18337968 Yemenite_Ma'rib
0.18581817 Yemenite_Al_Jawf
0.18705261 Moroccan_North
0.19010323 Tajik_Ishkashim
0.19119447 BedouinB
0.19121901 Saudi
0.19299777 Tatar_Lipka
0.19484858 Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.19673901 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.19707434 Yemenite_Mahra
0.19954076 Tunisian
0.19978836 Libyan
0.20686392 Besermyan
0.20836768 Makrani
0.21266810 Balochi
0.21333753 Uthmankhel
0.21356231 Algerian
0.21385326 Tarkalani
0.21399797 Turkmen
0.21563009 Brahui
0.21966837 Yusufzai
0.22048742 Mozabite
0.22085376 Chuvash
0.22144507 Pashtun
0.22258857 Kho_Singanali
0.22293213 Jatt_Pathak

Both populations do appear to be more equidistant with Tuscans but still they are closer to Moroccan_North than Pashtuns but they do have some south Central Asians before North Africa. It still is interesting to me though why Irish are closer to Pashtuns than any North African population. I'm sure this would be the case with other European populations as well. Just never noticed that sort of thing before.

Adamastor
01-15-2020, 05:08 PM
Distance to: Italian_Tuscany
0.16759870 Parsi_Pakistan
0.16790811 Vepsian
0.16848281 Yemenite_Amran
0.16873697 Latvian
0.16878918 Finnish_East
0.17024918 Parsi_India
0.17390699 Russian_Pinega
0.17474242 Tatar_Kazan
0.17505955 Egyptian
0.17524459 Tajik_Shugnan
0.17931742 Iranian_Bandari
0.17981196 Tajik
0.17992965 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.18120774 Yemenite_Jew
0.18191938 Komi
0.18264729 Yemenite_Al_Bayda
0.18337968 Yemenite_Ma'rib
0.18581817 Yemenite_Al_Jawf
0.18705261 Moroccan_North
0.19010323 Tajik_Ishkashim
0.19119447 BedouinB
0.19121901 Saudi
0.19299777 Tatar_Lipka
0.19484858 Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.19673901 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.19707434 Yemenite_Mahra
0.19954076 Tunisian
0.19978836 Libyan
0.20686392 Besermyan
0.20836768 Makrani
0.21266810 Balochi
0.21333753 Uthmankhel
0.21356231 Algerian
0.21385326 Tarkalani
0.21399797 Turkmen
0.21563009 Brahui
0.21966837 Yusufzai
0.22048742 Mozabite
0.22085376 Chuvash
0.22144507 Pashtun
0.22258857 Kho_Singanali
0.22293213 Jatt_Pathak

Both populations do appear to be more equidistant with Tuscans but still they are closer to Moroccan_North than Pashtuns but they do have some south Central Asians before North Africa. It still is interesting to me though why Irish are closer to Pashtuns than any North African population. I'm sure this would be the case with other European populations as well. Just never noticed that sort of thing before.

It's because Irish and Pashtuns have higher Steppe for their regions. Tuscans have high West Med and East Med, Moroccans as well. Balkanites and North Italians would probably be closer to Pashtuns, but it's just a guess, I'm not sure.

Leto
01-15-2020, 05:11 PM
Extremadurans also have high North African admixture, even higher than Galicians and Portuguese. Some of them can reach 13-14%.

Try with North Italians, Tuscans, Southwest French, Balkanites and the results may be different.
No way. I can't believe Peninsular Iberians can be over 10% North African.

Adamastor
01-15-2020, 05:52 PM
No way. I can't believe Peninsular Iberians can be over 10% North African.

Some models:

Spanish_Extremadura

Barcin_N 54.10
Yamnaya_Samara 29.75
WHG 10.80
Iberomaurusian 5.35
Levant_N 0.00
Yoruba 0.00

Spanish_Pais_Vasco

Barcin_N 55.8
Yamnaya_Samara 26.8
WHG 17.4
Iberomaurusian 0.0
Levant_N 0.0
Yoruba 0.0

The Extremaduran is 5.35 Iberomaurusian, it means he's at least 10-12% North African, given that the least Iberomaurusian admixed North Africans are still around 20-30%.
The Basque, on the other hand, has 0% Iberomaurusian and no North African admixture at all.

Leto
01-15-2020, 06:29 PM
Some models:

Spanish_Extremadura

Barcin_N 54.10
Yamnaya_Samara 29.75
WHG 10.80
Iberomaurusian 5.35
Levant_N 0.00
Yoruba 0.00

Spanish_Pais_Vasco

Barcin_N 55.8
Yamnaya_Samara 26.8
WHG 17.4
Iberomaurusian 0.0
Levant_N 0.0
Yoruba 0.0

The Extremaduran is 5.35 Iberomaurusian, it means he's at least 10-12% North African, given that the least Iberomaurusian admixed North Africans are still around 20-30%.
The Basque, on the other hand, has 0% Iberomaurusian and no North African admixture at all.
The non-Caucasoid in them is still minimal. They aren't Moros.

Adamastor
01-15-2020, 07:01 PM
The non-Caucasoid in them is still minimal. They aren't Moros.

So what? Who were saying they have any ''non-Caucasoid'' admixture and why this has anything to do with the discussion?

Moors themselves were mostly Iberian with a bit more North African ancestry, it doesn't have nothing do with who's closer to North Africans among Europeans. Even the North Africans likely have only small amounts of ''non-Caucasoid'' ancestry (5 - 15%), so who cares anyway.

I don't see the point in your posts tbh, it seems you are always very worried about these things.

Leto
01-15-2020, 07:05 PM
So what? Who were saying they have any ''non-Caucasoid'' admixture and why this has anything to do with the discussion?

Moors themselves were mostly Iberian with a bit more North African ancestry, it doesn't have nothing do with who's closer to North Africans among Europeans. Even the North Africans likely have only small amounts of ''non-Caucasoid'' ancestry (5 - 15%), so who cares anyway.

I don't see the point in your posts tbh, it seems you are always very worried about these things.
Haha, I just make fun sometimes when I'm in the mood.

You appear more worried because you always come and say the black is not really black and things like that xD

Adamastor
01-15-2020, 07:10 PM
Haha, I just make fun sometimes when I'm in the mood.

You appear more worried because you always come and say the black is not really black and things like that xD

Nah, I don't care, I just like to discuss everything.

I'm not trying to darkwash Iberians or anything, they are still very distant from any North Africans. And I really think the small ~SSA~ you can see in Iberians/South Italians and the higher amount in North Africans isn't really ''black'', actually it's not even my opinion, it's what all the recent studies are showing.

Morena
01-15-2020, 07:12 PM
Nah, I don't care, I just like to discuss everything.

I'm not trying to darkwash Iberians or anything, they are still very distant from any North Africans. And I really think the small ~SSA~ you can see in Iberians/South Italians and the higher amount in North Africans isn't really ''black'', actually it's not even my opinion, it's what all the recent studies are showing.

What about the mixing with African slave women in north Africa? Did that leave an impact?

Nassbean
01-15-2020, 07:14 PM
What about the mixing with African slave women in north Africa? Did that leave an impact?

It left an impact but only in some specific areas the majority of NAs haven't really been impacted by it (look at for example the guanche samples who are similar to modern north africans)

Grace O'Malley
01-15-2020, 07:19 PM
Nah, I don't care, I just like to discuss everything.

I'm not trying to darkwash Iberians or anything, they are still very distant from any North Africans. And I really think the small ~SSA~ you can see in Iberians/South Italians and the higher amount in North Africans isn't really ''black'', actually it's not even my opinion, it's what all the recent studies are showing.

I like you am very interested in population genetics. I'm interested in similarities and differences between populations. People often put their own complexes on to people. Personally I don't have any agenda but just look at what is shown in front of me. I find it interesting and like to learn new things. I go with what I can see not what I want or don't want. :)

I've also changed my views when new things are known. Information is constantly being updated and I'm looking forward to some studies that are due out this year.

Leto
01-15-2020, 07:26 PM
Nah, I don't care, I just like to discuss everything.

I'm not trying to darkwash Iberians or anything, they are still very distant from any North Africans. And I really think the small ~SSA~ you can see in Iberians/South Italians and the higher amount in North Africans isn't really ''black'', actually it's not even my opinion, it's what all the recent studies are showing.
Yes, I already got that. It's half black half non-black in my book.
Atlas Moro(ccan):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 26.38
2 East_Med 24.41
3 Red_Sea 17.32
4 Northeast_African 11.54
5 North_Atlantic 11.2
6 Sub-Saharan 9.01
7 Amerindian 0.14


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moroccan 2.29
2 Mozabite_Berber 4.94
3 Algerian 5.53
4 Tunisian 7.82
5 Egyptian 21.25
6 Libyan_Jewish 21.54
7 Algerian_Jewish 21.58
8 Tunisian_Jewish 22.86
9 Sephardic_Jewish 23.91
10 West_Sicilian 24.02
11 Italian_Jewish 24.12
12 East_Sicilian 24.3
13 Ashkenazi 25.18
14 South_Italian 25.2
15 Bedouin 25.63
16 Central_Greek 26.7
17 Tuscan 27.13
18 Italian_Abruzzo 27.29
19 Jordanian 28.09
20 Greek_Thessaly 28.37


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96% Moroccan + 4% French_Basque @ 1.18
2 95.4% Moroccan + 4.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.4
3 95.4% Moroccan + 4.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.44
4 95.7% Moroccan + 4.3% Southwest_French @ 1.45
5 95.2% Moroccan + 4.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.46
6 95.1% Moroccan + 4.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.48
7 95% Moroccan + 5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.51
8 95.4% Moroccan + 4.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.54
9 95.4% Moroccan + 4.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.54
10 95.2% Moroccan + 4.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.55
11 95.3% Moroccan + 4.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.55
12 95.7% Moroccan + 4.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.58
13 95.3% Moroccan + 4.7% Portuguese @ 1.59
14 95.4% Moroccan + 4.6% Sardinian @ 1.66
15 96.5% Moroccan + 3.5% French @ 1.75
16 97.2% Moroccan + 2.8% Southwest_English @ 1.76
17 95.5% Moroccan + 4.5% North_Italian @ 1.8
18 97.4% Moroccan + 2.6% West_Scottish @ 1.8
19 97.3% Moroccan + 2.7% Southeast_English @ 1.81
20 97.4% Moroccan + 2.6% Irish @ 1.81

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Moroccan +50% Moroccan @ 2.539215

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Moroccan +25% Moroccan +25% Moroccan @ 2.539215

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++
1 Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan @ 2.539215
2 Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber @ 2.631656
3 Algerian + Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan @ 2.967054
4 Moroccan + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 3.156809
5 Algerian + Moroccan + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber @ 3.419381
6 Moroccan + Moroccan + Moroccan + Tunisian @ 3.573104
7 Algerian + Algerian + Moroccan + Moroccan @ 3.837151
8 Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 3.941684
9 Moroccan + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Tunisian @ 4.053974
10 Algerian + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.137669
11 Algerian + Moroccan + Moroccan + Tunisian @ 4.445480
12 Algerian + Algerian + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.473094
13 Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Tunisian @ 4.753181
14 Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 4.863600
15 Algerian + Algerian + Algerian + Moroccan @ 4.903563
16 Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 5.009465
17 Algerian + Moroccan + Mozabite_Berber + Tunisian @ 5.077108
18 Moroccan + Moroccan + Tunisian + Tunisian @ 5.128040
19 Algerian + Algerian + Mozabite_Berber + Mozabite_Berber @ 5.276334
20 Algerian + Algerian + Moroccan + Tunisian @ 5.498822

Leto
01-15-2020, 07:27 PM
It left an impact but only in some specific areas the majority of NAs haven't really been impacted by it (look at for example the guanche samples who are similar to modern north africans)
Didn't you and Adamm say the other day mixing is common and Afro-Moroccans are not rare in cities?

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 07:29 PM
Haha, I just make fun sometimes when I'm in the mood.

You appear more worried because you always come and say the black is not really black and things like that xD

This is a huge attitude problem among MENA. They're trying to get under the Rapefugee radar in Europe.

Morena
01-15-2020, 07:31 PM
I like you am very interested in population genetics. I'm interested in similarities and differences between populations. People often put their own complexes on to people. Personally I don't have any agenda but just look at what is shown in front of me. I find it interesting and like to learn new things. I go with what I can see not what I want or don't want. :)

I've also changed my views when new things are known. Information is constantly being updated and I'm looking forward to some studies that are due out this year.

Which ones?

Nassbean
01-15-2020, 07:31 PM
Didn't you and Adamm say the other day mixing is common and Afro-Moroccans are not rare in cities?

yes but I'm talking about the majority here in those big cities It is common to meet haratin because of internal migrations

Adamastor
01-15-2020, 07:38 PM
Yes, I already got that. It's half black half non-black in my book.
Atlas Moro(ccan):

Well, your book, my book or anyone else's book in this forum doesn't matter at the end of the day. We are all amateurs with limited knowledge of these things. Human genetics evolved a lot in the last 10 years and yet we still don't know plenty of things about human DNA. For sure things will be very different in 2030.

But I just pointed that you trust too much these amateurish gedmatch calculators and hardly pay attention to professional genetic studies developed by actual scientists.

Honestly, I don't care if Iberomaurusian is ''black'' or not, I have almost nothing of it in me. What I usually do is trying to discuss based on what actual scientists are saying and the scientific consensus seems to be that Iberomaurusian isn't partially modern Subsaharan African (even if SSAs have this type of ancestry as well). GEDmatch calculators are irrelevant to define that.

Leto
01-15-2020, 07:44 PM
yes but I'm talking about the majority here in those big cities It is common to meet haratin because of internal migrations
Is Algeria less affected?

E K13:

Algerian
East_Med 28.26%
West_Med 22.38%
Red_Sea 15.84%
North_Atlantic 10.96%
Sub-Saharan 10.51%
Northeast_African 10.44%

Moroccan
East_Med 25.5%
West_Med 25.34%
Red_Sea 17.75%
Northeast_African 12.01%
North_Atlantic 9.39%
Sub-Saharan 8.89%

Grace O'Malley
01-15-2020, 07:46 PM
Which ones?

I would have posted about these in other threads but the two I'm aware of are one from France that will look at all periods in France's history and they will use ancient genomes. I hope it is as good as it sounds.

The other one is from Dr Lara Cassidy who was involved in the Rathlin paper and the Insular Celtic paper.

A Genomic Compendium of an Island: Documenting Continuity and Change across Irish Human Prehistory

Citation:
CASSIDY, LARA, A Genomic Compendium of an Island: Documenting Continuity and Change across Irish Human Prehistory, Trinity College Dublin.School of Genetics & Microbiology.GENETICS, 2018

Link to the full text item Final_Thesis_LM_Cassidy.pdf (PhD Thesis) 16.43Mb

Abstract:
This thesis provides an initial demographic scaffold for Irish prehistory based on the palaeogenomic analysis of 93 ancient individuals from all major periods of the island's human occupation, sequenced to a median of 1X coverage. ADMIXTURE and principal component analysis identify three ancestrally distinct Irish populations, whose inhabitation of the island corresponds closely to the Mesolithic, Neolithic and Chalcolithic/Early Bronze Age eras, with large scale migration to the island implied during the transitionary periods. Haplotypic-based sharing methods and Y chromosome analysis demonstrate strong continuity between the Early Bronze Age and modern Irish populations, suggesting no substantial population replacement has occurred on the island since this point in time. The Mesolithic population shares high genetic drift with contemporaries from France and Luxembourg and shows evidence of a severe inbreeding bottleneck, apparent through runs of homozygosity (ROH). Substantial contributions from both Mediterranean farming groups and northwestern hunter-gatherers are evident in the Neolithic Irish population. Moreover, evidence for local Mesolithic survival and introgression in southwestern Ireland, long after the commencement of the Neolithic, is also implied in haplotypic-analysis. Societal complexity during the Neolithic is suggested in patterns of Y chromosome and autosomal structure, while the identification of a highly inbred individual through ROH analysis, retrieved from an elite burial context, strongly suggests the elaboration and expansion of megalithic monuments over the course of the Neolithic was accompanied in some regions by dynastic hierarchies. Haplotypic affinities and distributions of steppe-related introgression among samples suggest a potentially bimodal introduction of Beaker culture to the island from both Atlantic and Northern European sources, with southwestern individuals showing inflated levels of Neolithic ancestry relative to individualised burials from the north and east. Signals of genetic continuity and change after this initial establishment of the Irish population are also explored, with haplotypic diversification evident between both the Bronze Age and Iron Age, and the Iron Age and present day. Across these intervals selection pressures related to nutrition appear to have acted, with variants involved in lactase persistence and skin depigmentation showing steady increases in frequency through time.
URI:
http://hdl.handle.net/2262/82960

She will be doing one on late Bronze Age to Late Medieval period and that one I'm even more interested in but I don't know when that one will be published.

What these studies now do is use ancient genomes so they can see what groups influenced different populations. This is what all studies need to do now. There is no use comparing modern populations to each other as most populations have changed. What I'm really interested in is knowing if the Irish population has changed from pre-Viking times.

It is great what is available to amateurs like us now. When a study gets published the genomic information is released so now we have all these ancient genomes that we compare ourselves to.

I'm sure there will be other studies that will come out this year but those two I'm very interested in. There really hasn't been many genetic studies done on France and it is a bit of a black hole so far.

Nassbean
01-15-2020, 07:59 PM
Is Algeria less affected?

E K13:

Algerian
East_Med 28.26%
West_Med 22.38%
Red_Sea 15.84%
North_Atlantic 10.96%
Sub-Saharan 10.51%
North_African 10.44%

Moroccan
East_Med 25.5%
West_Med 25.34%
Red_Sea 17.75%
Northeast_African 12.01%
North_Atlantic 9.39%
Sub-Saharan 8.89%


since when is there a "north_african" component on the K13 calculator?? I think you wanted to write northeast_african and I'd say that Morocco has more haratin communities and is more open to the south unlike Algeria where most of its population reside in the coastal area (there is also this myth about algerians or tunisians being lighter than moroccans which is false the only difference is that algerians and especially tunisians tend to be more ME shifted I've seen weird results sometimes)

Leto
01-15-2020, 08:05 PM
since when is there a "north_african" component on the K13 calculator?? I think you wanted to write northeast_african and I'd say that Morocco has more haratin communities and is more open to the south unlike Algeria where most of its population reside in the coastal area (there is also this myth about algerians or tunisians being lighter than moroccans which is false the only difference is that algerians and especially tunisians tend to be more ME shifted I've seen weird results sometimes)
Oh yes, NE African. I'm editing that right now.

Tunis has proper black people, as far as I'm concerned
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?238544-South-Tunisian-GedMatch

Nassbean
01-15-2020, 08:11 PM
Oh yes, NE African. I'm editing that right now.

Tunis has proper black people, as far as I'm concerned
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?238544-South-Tunisian-GedMatch

Yes of course all north african countries have their black communities I've never denied this and it was the same case in the past. I even opened a thread about a black tunisian

Morena
01-15-2020, 08:19 PM
I would have posted about these in other threads but the two I'm aware of are one from France that will look at all periods in France's history and they will use ancient genomes. I hope it is as good as it sounds.

The other one is from Dr Lara Cassidy who was involved in the Rathlin paper and the Insular Celtic paper.

A Genomic Compendium of an Island: Documenting Continuity and Change across Irish Human Prehistory

Citation:
CASSIDY, LARA, A Genomic Compendium of an Island: Documenting Continuity and Change across Irish Human Prehistory, Trinity College Dublin.School of Genetics & Microbiology.GENETICS, 2018

Link to the full text item Final_Thesis_LM_Cassidy.pdf (PhD Thesis) 16.43Mb

Abstract:
This thesis provides an initial demographic scaffold for Irish prehistory based on the palaeogenomic analysis of 93 ancient individuals from all major periods of the island's human occupation, sequenced to a median of 1X coverage. ADMIXTURE and principal component analysis identify three ancestrally distinct Irish populations, whose inhabitation of the island corresponds closely to the Mesolithic, Neolithic and Chalcolithic/Early Bronze Age eras, with large scale migration to the island implied during the transitionary periods. Haplotypic-based sharing methods and Y chromosome analysis demonstrate strong continuity between the Early Bronze Age and modern Irish populations, suggesting no substantial population replacement has occurred on the island since this point in time. The Mesolithic population shares high genetic drift with contemporaries from France and Luxembourg and shows evidence of a severe inbreeding bottleneck, apparent through runs of homozygosity (ROH). Substantial contributions from both Mediterranean farming groups and northwestern hunter-gatherers are evident in the Neolithic Irish population. Moreover, evidence for local Mesolithic survival and introgression in southwestern Ireland, long after the commencement of the Neolithic, is also implied in haplotypic-analysis. Societal complexity during the Neolithic is suggested in patterns of Y chromosome and autosomal structure, while the identification of a highly inbred individual through ROH analysis, retrieved from an elite burial context, strongly suggests the elaboration and expansion of megalithic monuments over the course of the Neolithic was accompanied in some regions by dynastic hierarchies. Haplotypic affinities and distributions of steppe-related introgression among samples suggest a potentially bimodal introduction of Beaker culture to the island from both Atlantic and Northern European sources, with southwestern individuals showing inflated levels of Neolithic ancestry relative to individualised burials from the north and east. Signals of genetic continuity and change after this initial establishment of the Irish population are also explored, with haplotypic diversification evident between both the Bronze Age and Iron Age, and the Iron Age and present day. Across these intervals selection pressures related to nutrition appear to have acted, with variants involved in lactase persistence and skin depigmentation showing steady increases in frequency through time.
URI:
http://hdl.handle.net/2262/82960

She will be doing one on late Bronze Age to Late Medieval period and that one I'm even more interested in but I don't know when that one will be published.

What these studies now do is use ancient genomes so they can see what groups influenced different populations. This is what all studies need to do now. There is no use comparing modern populations to each other as most populations have changed. What I'm really interested in is knowing if the Irish population has changed from pre-Viking times.

It is great what is available to amateurs like us now. When a study gets published the genomic information is released so now we have all these ancient genomes that we compare ourselves to.

I'm sure there will be other studies that will come out this year but those two I'm very interested in. There really hasn't been many genetic studies done on France and it is a bit of a black hole so far.

That's good. I hope the new French Paper is better than the last one. The last one was interesting and all, but it basically confirmed what we already knew.

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 08:20 PM
Yes of course all north african countries have their black communities I've never denied this and it was the same case in the past. I even opened a thread about a black tunisian

But apparently 3/4 of them sells watches on the streets(met one of them. turned out pretty cool)

Grace O'Malley
01-15-2020, 08:29 PM
That's good. I hope the new French Paper is better than the last one. The last one was interesting and all, but it basically confirmed what we already knew.

Yes they weren't great papers so I'm hoping this one will be more thorough as it is using ancient genomes. This was posted by someone who was at one of the talks on the French paper.


They have a good hundred samples from the North, Alsace and the Mediterranean coast, from the Mesolithic to the Iron Age.
There is no major surprise compared to the rest of Europe. On the PCA plot, the Mesolithic are with the WHG, the early neolithics with the first farmers close to the Anatolians. Then there is a small resurgence of hunter-gatherers that moves the middle neolithics a little closer to the WHGs. At the bronze age, they have 5 samples with autosomal DNA, all in Bell Beaker archaeological context, which are very spread on the PCA. A very high sample close to the Yamnaya, a little above the Corded Ware, two samples right in the Central European Bell Beakers, a fairly low just above the Neolithic package, and one last full in the package. The most salient point was that the Y chromosomes of their 12 Bronze Age samples (all bell beaker) are all R1b, whereas there was no R1b in the Neolithic samples. Finally they have samples of the Iron Age that are collected on the PCA plot close to the Bronze Age samples. They could not determine if there is continuity with the Bronze Age, or a partial replacement by a genetically close population.

Same thing with other countries studied. No R1b in the Neolithic. This Bronze Age migration was everywhere.

Nassbean
01-15-2020, 08:34 PM
But apparently 3/4 of them sells watches on the streets(met one of them. turned out pretty cool)

be careful there are also black migrants when I said black communities I'm talking about the ones who exist in NA since ancient or medieval times. Also most of them are heavily marginalized and there is a lot of racism It's the reality unfortunately

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 08:41 PM
be careful there are also black migrants when I said black communities I'm talking about the ones who exist in NA since ancient or medieval times. Also most of them are heavily marginalized and there is a lot of racism It's the reality unfortunately

Yeah, they were all(or mostly) from sierra lone or that most west african country thats pretty close to morrocco.

didnt see racism much, more like class system(poor, mistreated and ignored, while tourists served 24/7). But i guess there is some racism though

marco
01-15-2020, 08:57 PM
Is this still going on nmonte has it’s limitations anyway and is not accurate by any means.

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 08:58 PM
Oh yes, NE African. I'm editing that right now.

Tunis has proper black people, as far as I'm concerned
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?238544-South-Tunisian-GedMatch

Didn't you know that North Africa is Caucasoid and South Europe is Negroid?

marco
01-15-2020, 09:35 PM
Didn't you know that North Africa is Caucasoid and South Europe is Negroid?
Nah north Moroccans are like Southern Europeans I never said the whole of North African. Also some Tunisians who score over 50 percent European on there autosomal. Listen you got four times in North Africa the ones who have high european components the ones who have a high levant component like me, the ones who have high iberomaurusian and the ones who have very high ssa. We are all different I’ll post my g25 ancient results

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 09:40 PM
Nah north Moroccans are like Southern Europeans

In your dreams :laugh:

marco
01-15-2020, 09:45 PM
In your dreams :laugh:
Stop denying them Cristiano I posted results you both clearly share a lot of dna. Accept your cousins especially the R1b. I think you are being quiet silly here, I’m glad I don’t have to deal with this since I’m arab

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 09:46 PM
Stop denying them Cristiano I posted results you both clearly share a lot of dna. Accept your cousins especially the R1b

Moroccan and Spanish results are like the night and the day, in that order plus.

marco
01-15-2020, 09:48 PM
Moroccan and Spanish results are like the night and the day, in that order plus.
They’re not there genetics are very close. I’m talking about coastal and northern Moroccans not all that would be silly I just explained the types to you

marco
01-15-2020, 09:52 PM
I feel like the guy who started this thread is clearly a troll trying to cause problems. No words needed to be written spainsh people know about their roots with northern Moroccans

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 09:53 PM
In your dreams :laugh:

They want excuses for raping our mothers, sisters, wives and daughters.

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 09:55 PM
They want excuses for raping our mothers, sisters, wives and daughters.

Fortunately they dont fool anyone anymore.

marco
01-15-2020, 09:56 PM
They want excuses for raping our mothers, sisters, wives and daughters.
I have nothing to do with that my haplogroup is J2a1b3 J L210, the spainsh also invader and occupied the Western Sahara. We are talking about times were invasions were the norm. You both share so much dna now that it’s time to come together

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 09:57 PM
Moroccan and Spanish results are like the night and the day, in that order plus.

Maybe we should go to the Moroccan sex slave market in Casablanca to make an interracial porn version of the old film, only coloured instead of Black and White.

Leto
01-15-2020, 09:58 PM
Maybe we should go to the Moroccan sex slave market in Casablanca to make an interracial porn version of the old film, only coloured instead of Black and White.
Moroccan king Mohammed is allegedly homosexual. I repeat - allegedly.

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 09:59 PM
Fortunately they dont fool anyone anymore.

Why doesn't he go to Malta or Cyprus? Plenty of J among massa's daughters.

marco
01-15-2020, 09:59 PM
Maybe we should go to the Moroccan sex slave market in Casablanca to make an interracial porn version of the old film, only coloured instead of Black and White.
You see this is turning rather childish i expected more of you. If spainsh people were so upset why are your women still opening their legs to the E-m81. They want to experience what their ancestors did

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 10:00 PM
I have nothing to do with that my haplogroup is J2a1b3 J L210, the spainsh also invader and occupied the Western Sahara. We are talking about times were invasions were the norm. You both share so much dna now that it’s time to come together

Sorry, I forgot you're more of an Anatolian Turk than a raghead.

marco
01-15-2020, 10:00 PM
Why doesn't he go to Malta or Cyprus? Plenty of J among massa's daughters.
I’m not interested in your women they age like milk. IM just fighting for the rights of the north Moroccans

Samnium
01-15-2020, 10:01 PM
They’re not there genetics are very close. I’m talking about coastal and northern Moroccans not all that would be silly I just explained the types to you

Coastal and northern Moroccans are a bit more northern than the average they are still well within the cluster, the only people that fall outside are those who have partial direct ancestry like half moroccans half NW european etc.

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 10:02 PM
You see this is turning rather childish i expected more of you. If spainsh people were so upset why are your women still opening their legs to the E-m81. They want to experience what their ancestors did

If you're not African, disavow all Afroasiatic identity and just live in Tangiers or Gibraltar.

marco
01-15-2020, 10:02 PM
Sorry, I forgot you're more of an Anatolian Turk than a raghead.
https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L210/
I’m Arabic look at the tree it mean Arabic roots

marco
01-15-2020, 10:03 PM
Coastal and northern Moroccans are a bit more northern than the average they are still well within the cluster, the only people that fall outside are those who have partial direct ancestry like half moroccans half NW european etc.
What pulls them back is the iberomaurusian and ancient ssa

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 10:04 PM
I’m not interested in your women they age like milk. IM just fighting for the rights of the north Moroccans

You can't be a true Moor if you are J. Native Niggers are E. You're some West Asian cumshot.

marco
01-15-2020, 10:04 PM
If you're not African, disavow all Afroasiatic identity and just live in Tangiers or Gibraltar.
LOL guys I don’t believe in racism, you’re just attacking your own people

marco
01-15-2020, 10:05 PM
You can't be a true Moor if you are J. Native Niggers are E. You're some West Asian cumshot.
Listen just because they are E doesn’t mean they are black. Isn’t there E in Europe anyway

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 10:05 PM
Moroccan king Mohammed is allegedly homosexual. I repeat - allegedly.

Male camels, young and named Aiesha?

marco
01-15-2020, 10:06 PM
Where did the indian who started this thread go

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 10:06 PM
https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L210/
I’m Arabic look at the tree it mean Arabic roots

You're an occupier on Kaffir soil, but you don't fit in Iberia, you fit in Anatolia/Arabia.

Adamm
01-15-2020, 10:06 PM
You can't be a true Moor if you are J. Native Niggers are E. You're some West Asian cumshot.

True Moors are E-M183.

marco
01-15-2020, 10:07 PM
Moroccan king Mohammed is allegedly homosexual. I repeat - allegedly.
What was you doing searching up homosexuals that’s a little bit strange. You seem quiet knowledgeable

Samnium
01-15-2020, 10:07 PM
What pulls them back is the iberomaurusian and ancient ssa

They don't have even the same level of Steppe of Cretans, that are really the fringe of genetical Europe.

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 10:07 PM
LOL guys I don’t believe in racism, you’re just attacking your own people

I'm not IJ, but K.

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 10:08 PM
Listen just because they are E doesn’t mean they are black. Isn’t there E in Europe anyway

Albanians are Rapefugee Rapebloods.

Leto
01-15-2020, 10:08 PM
What was you doing searching up homosexuals that’s a little bit strange. You seem quiet knowledgeable
Nah, a Spanish guy I know told me that. I had no idea. I'm against that stuff, it's a sin to me.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-15-2020, 10:08 PM
True Moors are E-M183.

You mean Berbers. Moor isn't an ethnic group (at least for us Iberians), it is just an adjective for Muslim. Out of curiosity, do Moroccans call themselves Moor?

Samnium
01-15-2020, 10:09 PM
What pulls them back is the iberomaurusian and ancient ssa

They don't have even the same level of Steppe of Cretans, that are really the fringe of genetical Europe.

marco
01-15-2020, 10:09 PM
True Moors are E-M183.
Exactly

marco
01-15-2020, 10:10 PM
You mean Berbers. Moor isn't an ethnic group (at least for us Iberians), it is just an adjective for Muslim. Out of curiosity, do Moroccans call themselves Moor?
It is an ethnic group

marco
01-15-2020, 10:10 PM
See these Indians are sly start a post then run away

marco
01-15-2020, 10:11 PM
They don't have even the same level of Steppe of Cretans, that are really the fringe of genetical Europe.
Listen I just modelled a North Moroccan with bell beaker, iberomaurusian and ssa all under three percent. They are your cousins

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 10:12 PM
You see this is turning rather childish i expected more of you. If spainsh people were so upset why are your women still opening their legs to the E-m81. They want to experience what their ancestors did

Our ancestors killed and expelled the yours. And soon we will do the same. Go out of here, brown beings!

Adamm
01-15-2020, 10:13 PM
You mean Berbers. Moor isn't an ethnic group (at least for us Iberians), it is just an adjective for Muslim. Out of curiosity, do Moroccans call themselves Moor?

Yes for us it's an ethnic group, Moors comes from Mauri (الموري) which derives originally from a tribe in the Riff but it was used for both Berbers from North Morocco and North Algeria (mauretania tingitana / Mauretania Caesariensis). So yes Moroccans (not all) call themselves Moors.

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 10:14 PM
See these Indians are sly start a post then run away

Well, not my bad you guys arent clones of euros and are far as fuck from them, even very north african shifted ones.

Maybe your butthurt ass need to realise while you have shitton of med in you, you also have a shitton of admix million miles from south euros.
Honestly, i think you think Nmonte as inaccurate only because you guys arent close to south euros. If you were clones of them, you wouldnt say shit.

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 10:14 PM
True Moors are E-M183.

The African majority is E and the West Asian majority is J.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-15-2020, 10:14 PM
It is an ethnic group

Refrain from spamming the thread if you do not have anything to add. Right now you are just disagreeing with everyone for the sake of disagreeing. There's no such thing as a Moorish ethnic group and I do not expect lessons regarding ethnic groups from someone that thinks he is a Bedouin merely because he has got a Semitic haplogroup.

Adamm
01-15-2020, 10:15 PM
Well, not my bad you guys arent clones of euros and are far as fuck from them, even very north african shifted ones.

Maybe your butthurt ass need to realise while you have shitton of med in you, you also have a shitton of admix million miles from south euros.
Honestly, i think you think Nmonte as inaccurate only because you guys arent close to south euros. If you were clones of them, you wouldnt say shit.

Dont think he speaks for us Moroccans as a whole, nobody here is talking about being close with Iberians except for Marco (I think he's trolling).

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 10:17 PM
See these Indians are sly start a post then run away

Indo-Aryans are my brethren. Dravidians being H are as distant as you.

marco
01-15-2020, 10:18 PM
Well, not my bad you guys arent clones of euros and are far as fuck from them, even very north african shifted ones.

Maybe your butthurt ass need to realise while you have shitton of med in you, you also have a shitton of admix million miles from south euros.
Honestly, i think you think Nmonte as inaccurate only because you guys arent close to south euros. If you were clones of them, you wouldnt say shit.
Relax indian boy you clearly created this thread knowing what was going to happen

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-15-2020, 10:18 PM
Yes for us it's an ethnic group, Moors comes from Mauri (الموري) which derives originally from a tribe in the Riff but it was used for both Berbers from North Morocco and North Algeria (mauretania tingitana / Mauretania Caesariensis). So yes Moroccans (not all) call themselves Moors.

Moroccans call themselves Moor probably in a historical perspective. I doubt someone will introduce his ethnicity as Moor rather than Amazigh or Berber because that doesn't make any sense, at least from an Iberian perspective.

"Moors are not a distinct or self-defined people,[4] and the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica observed that "The term 'Moors' has no real ethnological value."[5] Europeans of the Middle Ages and the early modern period variously applied the name to Arabs, North African Berbers, and Muslim Europeans.[6]"

marco
01-15-2020, 10:19 PM
Refrain from spamming the thread if you do not have anything to add. Right now you are just disagreeing with everyone for the sake of disagreeing. There's no such thing as a Moorish ethnic group and I do not expect lessons regarding ethnic groups from someone that thinks he is a Bedouin merely because he has got a Semitic haplogroup.
You have all not provided any evidence to prove north Moroccans are not genetically similar to you

marco
01-15-2020, 10:19 PM
Moroccans call themselves Moor probably in a historical perspective. I doubt someone will introduce his ethnicity as Moor rather than Amazigh or Berber because that doesn't make any sense, at least from an Iberian perspective.

"Moors are not a distinct or self-defined people,[4] and the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica observed that "The term 'Moors' has no real ethnological value."[5] Europeans of the Middle Ages and the early modern period variously applied the name to Arabs, North African Berbers, and Muslim Europeans.[6]"
Moors have specific components such as higher Iberian and european components. It’s to identify the Rif

Leto
01-15-2020, 10:20 PM
Relax indian boy you clearly created this thread knowing what was going to happen
How about closing it the fuck down? It's ruined forever anyway.

marco
01-15-2020, 10:21 PM
Indo-Aryans are my brethren. Dravidians being H are as distant as you.
I’m an Arabian nothing to do with you and vice versa this is about coastal I’ll post some autosomal results hold on

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 10:22 PM
Relax indian boy you clearly created this thread knowing what was going to happen

Not entirely. Didnt expect some white wannabe arab looking morrocan to say his people are clones of euros.

Thats kind of shocking to me(before you say im white wannabe to, i actually admit we're far asf from them)

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-15-2020, 10:22 PM
You have all not provided any evidence to prove north Moroccans are not genetically similar to you

I already posted the entire modern populations average spreadsheet and showed you the distance to target\source regarding Iberians and North Africans. North Africans do not even show up in the first 200 samples in terms of proximity with Iberians. Even Ugric people like Komis who live almost in the other side of planet were genetically closer than Moroccans that live across the sea.

Leto
01-15-2020, 10:22 PM
Zinedine Zidane's sons are French by birth and culture and Kabyle/Spanish by ancestry. Look Southern Euro to me, fully assimilated
https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/352/061/e1fe3f1bdea43f2ab944c2eeda199ae7_crop_north.jpg?14 28592273&w=3072&h=2048

marco
01-15-2020, 10:23 PM
How about closing it the fuck down? It's ruined forever anyway.
I agree this is what OP wanted for us to argue with each other and throw insults around. Maybe his the one that needs to Be turned on

marco
01-15-2020, 10:23 PM
Someone close this freak show down

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 10:24 PM
Moroccans call themselves Moor probably in a historical perspective. I doubt someone will introduce his ethnicity as Moor rather than Amazigh or Berber because that doesn't make any sense, at least from an Iberian perspective.

"Moors are not a distinct or self-defined people,[4] and the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica observed that "The term 'Moors' has no real ethnological value."[5] Europeans of the Middle Ages and the early modern period variously applied the name to Arabs, North African Berbers, and Muslim Europeans.[6]"

My Moroccan ex-coworker (he was dark as fuck, although he was from Sahara and did not like be called Moroccan) asked to us that we did not call him "moro". If any, "morito", but not moro. And currently it is politically incorrect calling moor in public.
With this I mean I think not even they call moors themselves...

marco
01-15-2020, 10:24 PM
I already posted the entire modern populations average spreadsheet and showed you the distance to target\source regarding Iberians and North Africans. North Africans do not even show up in the first 200 samples in terms of proximity with Iberians. Even Ugric people like Komis who live almost in the other side of planet were genetically closer than Moroccans that live across the sea.
Im talking percentages run the models. You can score something you are far away from

marco
01-15-2020, 10:25 PM
My Moroccan ex-coworker (he was dark as fuck, although he was from Sahara and did not like be called Moroccan) asked to us that we did not call him "moro". If any, "morito", but not moro. And currently it is politically incorrect calling moor in public.
With this I mean I think not even they call moors themselves...
So you have Moroccan friends?

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-15-2020, 10:28 PM
My Moroccan ex-coworker (he was dark as fuck, although he was from Sahara and did not like be called Moroccan) asked to us that we did not call him "moro". If any, "morito", but not moro. And currently it is politically incorrect calling moor in public.
With this I mean I think not even they call moors themselves...

Perhaps they have a different definition than the one we have. In Portugal you can call any Muslim of Moor, either Moroccans or Arabs are Moors to us. As you know, in either Spain or Portugal calling someone of Moor is a big insult and pejorative, so probably that's why he didn't like it despite being Moroccan.

Samnium
01-15-2020, 10:28 PM
Listen I just modelled a North Moroccan with bell beaker, iberomaurusian and ssa all under three percent. They are your cousins

Lol what are you talking about dude, I'm 50 /50 French S.Italian from areas that have very low north-african.

Samnium
01-15-2020, 10:30 PM
Zinedine Zidane's sons are French by birth and culture and Kabyle/Spanish by ancestry. Look Southern Euro to me, fully assimilated
https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/352/061/e1fe3f1bdea43f2ab944c2eeda199ae7_crop_north.jpg?14 28592273&w=3072&h=2048

They look south euros because their mother is as southern euro herself.


I already posted the entire modern populations average spreadsheet and showed you the distance to target\source regarding Iberians and North Africans. North Africans do not even show up in the first 200 samples in terms of proximity with Iberians. Even Ugric people like Komis who live almost in the other side of planet were genetically closer than Moroccans that live across the sea.

They are also closer to most Ethiopians groups than to NW and NE Euros also, to pointing out how clueless is to make distances on very different populations.

marco
01-15-2020, 10:30 PM
Not entirely. Didnt expect some white wannabe arab looking morrocan to say his people are clones of euros.

Thats kind of shocking to me(before you say im white wannabe to, i actually admit we're far asf from them)
Excuse me where did I say I’m white? I’m Arabian desert boy. I can see your intentions I won’t play into them and won’t argue with these people. You wanna be white though indian boy I’m happy with my ancestry

marco
01-15-2020, 10:31 PM
Lol what are you talking about dude, I'm 50 /50 French S.Italian from areas that have very low north-african.
I apologise I need to clarify when I say things I’m mainly talking about iberians. Southern Italians are actually closer to the levant that’s another discussion though

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 10:32 PM
Excuse me where did I say I’m white? I’m Arabian desert boy. I can see your intentions I won’t play into them and won’t argue with these people. You wanna be white though indian boy I’m happy with my ancestry

:confused:

If i wanna show afghans as white, then why post the results? They clearly shows afghans anything but white

Youre the one saying morroccans are 70% euro, lol
If the thread showed berbers as clones of scandis, 100% you would cum all over the screen

Adamm
01-15-2020, 10:33 PM
Moroccans call themselves Moor probably in a historical perspective. I doubt someone will introduce his ethnicity as Moor rather than Amazigh or Berber because that doesn't make any sense, at least from an Iberian perspective.

"Moors are not a distinct or self-defined people,[4] and the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica observed that "The term 'Moors' has no real ethnological value."[5] Europeans of the Middle Ages and the early modern period variously applied the name to Arabs, North African Berbers, and Muslim Europeans.[6]"

Well calling yourself Mauri (موري) is pretty normal for Riffians.

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 10:33 PM
Perhaps they have a different definition than the one we have. In Portugal you can call any Muslim of Moor, either Moroccans or Arabs are Moors to us. As you know, in either Spain or Portugal calling someone of Moor is a big insult and pejorative, so probably that's why he didn't like it despite being Moroccan.

Yeah yeah, here it is the same. An Albanian is called Moor. A Paki is called Moor. But today if you call Moro to someone, he could even denounce you "for racism". It happens the same if you call maricón to someone (faggot).
So I doubt they call themselves so, even in Morocco. But who knows, as they are so retarded maybe they do :p

Leto
01-15-2020, 10:34 PM
They look south euros because their mother is as southern euro herself.
I believe Algeria or Morocco has a few French-born national players, they have French mothers and Moor fathers (for some reason they chose to play for their father's countries). They looked white-passing.

marco
01-15-2020, 10:36 PM
So you have Moroccan friends?


:confused:

If i wanna show afghans as white, then why post the results? They clearly shows afghans anything but white

Youre the one saying morroccans are 70% euro, lol
If the thread showed berbers as clones of scandis, 100% you would cum all over the screen
You clearly didn’t read what I say all I know is that you are a troll you started this thread on purpose. Indian behaviour

marco
01-15-2020, 10:37 PM
I made this thread not for trolling or trying to offend anyone, just out of curiosity and for fun after to get to know more about north africans.

After i seen gedmatch results of north africans + as well their historical affinity to south euros and geographical distance, i kind of expected them to be a lot closer than i got to see after playing around a bit with north african g25 nmonte coordinates. I mean, this whole time i myself thought north africans would be significantly somewhat a bit close to south euros.

Troll level expert

Leto
01-15-2020, 10:40 PM
I believe Algeria or Morocco has a few French-born national players, they have French mothers and Moor fathers (for some reason they chose to play for their father's countries). They looked white-passing.
https://sf1.sport365.fr/wp-content/uploads/se/2018/05/strasbourg_oukidja_180518-750x410.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Oukidja

marco
01-15-2020, 10:41 PM
Yeah yeah, here it is the same. An Albanian is called Moor. A Paki is called Moor. But today if you call Moro to someone, he could even denounce you "for racism". It happens the same if you call maricón to someone (faggot).
So I doubt they call themselves so, even in Morocco. But who knows, as they are so retarded maybe they do :p
While you’re busy explaining this to us in your mothers basement, there’s some Moroccan dude upstairs with your mother. Every post you make there is a Moroccan guy given creampies to spainsh and Portuguese women

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 10:43 PM
I made this thread not for trolling or trying to offend anyone, just out of curiosity and for fun after to get to know more about north africans.

After i seen gedmatch results of north africans + as well their historical affinity to south euros and geographical distance, i kind of expected them to be a lot closer than i got to see after playing around a bit with north african g25 nmonte coordinates. I mean, this whole time i myself thought north africans would be significantly somewhat a bit close to south euros.

Troll level expert

Wow, really troll levels to post nmonte results. Guess next time i have to put up attention warnings for thin skin people.

Ok, berbers are clones of portugese and italians. They have 0% SSA and are just like italians in every way. Afghans are black hindus. Happy?

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 10:43 PM
I believe Algeria or Morocco has a few French-born national players, they have French mothers and Moor fathers (for some reason they chose to play for their father's countries). They looked white-passing.

Zidane wife is from Almería. I mean her parents. She is 100% Spanish by blood.
And a traitor, if you ask me.

Avicenna
01-15-2020, 10:44 PM
Excuse me where did I say I’m white? I’m Arabian desert boy. I can see your intentions I won’t play into them and won’t argue with these people. You wanna be white though indian boy I’m happy with my ancestry

Hes Afghan though..

marco
01-15-2020, 10:44 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/ep93tb/south_asian_and_afghan_genetic_plot_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Check how afghans plot

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 10:45 PM
I’m an Arabian nothing to do with you and vice versa this is about coastal I’ll post some autosomal results hold on

marco=maricón pierro=puto is your name?

Oh, marco is for Moroccan and Moorish.

marco
01-15-2020, 10:45 PM
Hes Afghan though..
It’s all the same thing don’t differentiate

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 10:45 PM
While you’re busy explaining this to us in your mothers basement, there’s some Moroccan dude upstairs with your mother. Every post you make there is a Moroccan guy given creampies to spainsh and Portuguese women

And you calling childish to Nordarya...

marco
01-15-2020, 10:46 PM
marco=maricón pierro=puto is your name?

Oh, marco is for Moroccan and Moorish.
Just Moroccan what’s moorish?

Duffmannn
01-15-2020, 10:46 PM
Yeah, they were all(or mostly) from sierra lone or that most west african country thats pretty close to morrocco.

didnt see racism much, more like class system(poor, mistreated and ignored, while tourists served 24/7). But i guess there is some racism though

I know a half moroccan-half malian teenager not far from where I live, his father is an inmigrant that lived many years in Morocco and there he met with a moroccan (arab-berber moraccan) woman, and then they came to live to Spain.

Those cases exist, for example this football player:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamza_Mendyl (Though this one seems full black, but that´s not strange in new world mulattos. I suppose even less in people with minor black admixture as southern moroccans)

But he was a really bad student and I don´t know in what he´s going to work because he has no skills, and of course, has no agricultural lands in property to live on them (they all live in a village)

marco
01-15-2020, 10:47 PM
And you calling childish to Nordarya...
Hey you started it

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 10:48 PM
Hey you started it
Did I insult your mother?

Avicenna
01-15-2020, 10:49 PM
Not entirely. Didnt expect some white wannabe arab looking morrocan to say his people are clones of euros.

Thats kind of shocking to me(before you say im white wannabe to, i actually admit we're far asf from them)

Not even, I mean if you include North caucasians and balkans as white then we are much closer to them than any Kabyle /berber is to any euro group ( including birth African shfted Canarians), Sardinians, maltese etc. If you include tajik yaghnobis and pamiris as white then we are even closer.

Leto
01-15-2020, 10:49 PM
Half Spanish Algerian football star Adlène Guedioura

Guedioura, born in La Roche-sur-Yon, France, to a Spanish mother, a former Spain Women Basketball team player, Enriqueta Soreira Pons[4] and former Algerian international striker Nacer Guedioura.
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/74768-1541149217.JPG
https://www.eadt.co.uk/polopoly_fs/1.5354345.1515939255!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_630/image.jpg

marco
01-15-2020, 10:50 PM
Not even, I mean if you include North caucasians and balkans as white then we are much closer to them than any Kabyle /berber is to any euro group ( including birth African shfted Canarians), Sardinians, maltese etc. If you include tajik yaghnobis and pamiris as white then we are even closer.
The question is genetics do you score bell beaker?

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 10:50 PM
Don't text and drive. You might crash after reading this!


:confused:

If i wanna show afghans as white, then why post the results? They clearly shows afghans anything but white

Youre the one saying morroccans are 70% euro, lol
If the thread showed berbers as clones of scandis, 100% you would cum all over the screen


While you’re busy explaining this to us in your mothers basement, there’s some Moroccan dude upstairs with your mother. Every post you make there is a Moroccan guy given creampies to spainsh and Portuguese women

marco
01-15-2020, 10:50 PM
Did I insult your mother?
You did far worse you insulted a whole country of mothers

Avicenna
01-15-2020, 10:51 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/ep93tb/south_asian_and_afghan_genetic_plot_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Check how afghans plot

SMH that's 23andme lmao which puts Afghanistan under South asian due to political reasons.

We are as close to the most western and northern shifted nw south asians as an Englishman is to a Spaniard.let that sink in.

marco
01-15-2020, 10:52 PM
Not even, I mean if you include North caucasians and balkans as white then we are much closer to them than any Kabyle /berber is to any euro group ( including birth African shfted Canarians), Sardinians, maltese etc. If you include tajik yaghnobis and pamiris as white then we are even closer.
Last I checked you don’t score Iberian or Italian

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-15-2020, 10:52 PM
While you’re busy explaining this to us in your mothers basement, there’s some Moroccan dude upstairs with your mother. Every post you make there is a Moroccan guy given creampies to spainsh and Portuguese women

That's funny considering that you are the living definition of someone who has a cuck hold fetish. A Moroccan that identifies himself as Arab, basically the people that oppressed and nearly wiped your entire nation's native culture with repercussions that are still felt all over the North Africa until this day.

marco
01-15-2020, 10:52 PM
SMH that's 23andme lmao which puts Afghanistan under South asian due to political reasons.

We are as close to the most western and northern shifted nw south asians as an Englishman is to a Spaniard.let that sink in.


Nah you are close to Sri Lankan’s

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 10:54 PM
Not even, I mean if you include North caucasians and balkans as white then we are much closer to them than any Kabyle /berber is to any euro group ( including birth African shfted Canarians), Sardinians, maltese etc. If you include tajik yaghnobis and pamiris as white then we are even closer.

Lol, i dont even care. These guys can be clones of italians or another version of somalis.
I dont care who's most cracka here.

I just wanted to post some results, but even that is controversial for TA....

: /

Avicenna
01-15-2020, 10:54 PM
Last I checked you don’t score Iberian or Italian

Whats that got to do with what I said mooron? I like the Moroccan users here but your just trolling plus bringing afghans in this pathetic Convo. We are closer to majority of euros than any Northern shifted pure berber.

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 10:54 PM
You did far worse you insulted a whole country of mothers

Saying Moroccans are brown, undeveloped and primitive is the truth, not an insult. Let alone mothers.

marco
01-15-2020, 10:54 PM
That's funny considering that you are the living definition of someone who has a cuck hold fetish. A Moroccan that identifies himself as Arab, basically the people that oppressed and nearly wiped your entire nation's native culture with repercussions that are still felt all over the North Africa until this day.
Im Moroccan arab when my 23 and me results come this will confirm both my haplogroup and ancestry

Avicenna
01-15-2020, 10:55 PM
Nah you are close to Sri Lankan’s

Sure buddy

marco
01-15-2020, 10:56 PM
Saying Moroccans are brown, undeveloped and primitive is the truth, not an insult. Let alone mothers.
Then your mother must have a fetish for that I heard she’s wild fat ass bitch

marco
01-15-2020, 10:57 PM
Sure buddy
I just asked a question answer it do you score bell beakers or Iberian or Italian?

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 10:57 PM
Then your mother must have fetish for that I heard she’s wild fat ass bitch

haahah, I touch your nerves very easily, sandnigga xD

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-15-2020, 10:59 PM
Im Moroccan arab when my 23 and me results come this will confirm both my haplogroup and ancestry

In Portugal or Spain nobody identifies as Roman, Celt, Visigoth or whatever population was here before. Only as Portuguese or Spanish and if anything, as Iberian. You want to identify as Arab because you were historically oppressed and brainwashed by Arabic cultural replacement that as a consequence they left a huge inferiority complex among Moroccans such as yourself, who rather be delusional and identify as Arab because they are seen as the elite of Morocco over native Berbers (even your King claims to be from an Arabic lineage).

marco
01-15-2020, 11:00 PM
In Portugal or Spain nobody identifies as Roman, Celt, Visigoth or whatever population was here before. Only as Portuguese or Spanish and if anything, as Iberian. You want to identify as Arab because you were historically oppressed and brainwashed by Arabic cultural replacement that as a consequence they left a huge inferiority complex among Moroccans such as yourself, who rather be delusional and identify as Arab because they are seen as the elite of Morocco over native Berbers (even your King claims to be from an Arabic lineage).
Moroccan king is middle atlas and I’m Arabic big difference his still J1 so his Arabic

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 11:01 PM
And you calling childish to Nordarya... I'm not the one who is having an interracial sex fetish.


Just Moroccan what’s moorish? Marrakesh is a Moorish, Mauro city.


Half Spanish Algerian football star Adlène Guedioura

https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/74768-1541149217.JPG
https://www.eadt.co.uk/polopoly_fs/1.5354345.1515939255!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_630/image.jpg That's a God-damned Nigger anchorbaby!


Not entirely. Didnt expect some white wannabe arab looking morrocan to say his people are clones of euros.

Thats kind of shocking to me(before you say im white wannabe to, i actually admit we're far asf from them)Identity crisis much? He's not happy with his own West Asian people or his life in the ghetto. Who can blame him? He's like the Fresh Prince badmouthing Philly.

marco
01-15-2020, 11:01 PM
In Portugal or Spain nobody identifies as Roman, Celt, Visigoth or whatever population was here before. Only as Portuguese or Spanish and if anything, as Iberian. You want to identify as Arab because you were historically oppressed and brainwashed by Arabic cultural replacement that as a consequence they left a huge inferiority complex among Moroccans such as yourself, who rather be delusional and identify as Arab because they are seen as the elite of Morocco over native Berbers (even your King claims to be from an Arabic lineage).
All my results indicate I’m Arabic get over it

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-15-2020, 11:01 PM
Cultural enrichment that Arabs left in Morocco, marriages between your own cousins:

Consanguineous marriages in Morocco and the consequence for the incidence of autosomal recessive disorders.


"Consanguineous marriage is traditionally common throughout Arab countries. This leads to an increased birth prevalence of infants with recessive disorders, congenital malformations, morbidity and mortality. The aim of this study was to evaluate the rate of consanguineous marriage in families with autosomal recessive diseases, and to compare it with the average rate of consanguinity in the Moroccan population. The study was conducted in the Department of Medical Genetics in Rabat on 176 families with autosomal recessive diseases diagnosed and confirmed by clinical, radiological, enzymatic or molecular investigations. The rate of consanguinity was also studied in 852 families who had infants with trisomy 21 confirmed by karyotyping. These families were chosen because: (i) there is no association between trisomy 21 and consanguinity, (ii) these cases are referred from different regions of Morocco and (iii) they concern all social statuses. Among 176 families with autosomal recessive disorders, consanguineous marriages comprised 59.09% of all marriages. The prevalence of consanguinity in Morocco was found to be 15.25% with a mean inbreeding coefficient of 0.0065. The differences in the rates of consanguineous marriages were highly significant when comparing the general population and couples with offspring affected by autosomal recessive conditions. These results place Morocco among the countries in the world with high rates of consanguinity. Autosomal recessive disorders are strongly associated with consanguinity. This study better defines the health risks associated with consanguinity for the development of genetic educational guidelines targeted at the public and the health sector."

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 11:02 PM
In Portugal or Spain nobody identifies as Roman, Celt, Visigoth or whatever population was here before. Only as Portuguese or Spanish and if anything, as Iberian. You want to identify as Arab because you were historically oppressed and brainwashed by Arabic cultural replacement that as a consequence they left a huge inferiority complex among Moroccans such as yourself, who rather be delusional and identify as Arab because they are seen as the elite of Morocco over native Berbers (even your King claims to be from an Arabic lineage).

For something Arabs left in North Africa their language, religion, skin colour, surnames, food, turbants, traditions etc. Damn, I bet that they left even the camels.

Duffmannn
01-15-2020, 11:03 PM
That's funny considering that you are the living definition of someone who has a cuck hold fetish. A Moroccan that identifies himself as Arab, basically the people that oppressed and nearly wiped your entire nation's native culture with repercussions that are still felt all over the North Africa until this day.

If he would define himself as portuguese, spanish or french, (as he does), he would do the same.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Algarve_de_Al%C3%A9m-Mar.svg/1200px-Algarve_de_Al%C3%A9m-Mar.svg.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Mapa_del_Magreb_%281956%29.svg

marco
01-15-2020, 11:05 PM
Cultural enrichment that Arabs left in Morocco, marriages between your own cousins:

Consanguineous marriages in Morocco and the consequence for the incidence of autosomal recessive disorders.


"Consanguineous marriage is traditionally common throughout Arab countries. This leads to an increased birth prevalence of infants with recessive disorders, congenital malformations, morbidity and mortality. The aim of this study was to evaluate the rate of consanguineous marriage in families with autosomal recessive diseases, and to compare it with the average rate of consanguinity in the Moroccan population. The study was conducted in the Department of Medical Genetics in Rabat on 176 families with autosomal recessive diseases diagnosed and confirmed by clinical, radiological, enzymatic or molecular investigations. The rate of consanguinity was also studied in 852 families who had infants with trisomy 21 confirmed by karyotyping. These families were chosen because: (i) there is no association between trisomy 21 and consanguinity, (ii) these cases are referred from different regions of Morocco and (iii) they concern all social statuses. Among 176 families with autosomal recessive disorders, consanguineous marriages comprised 59.09% of all marriages. The prevalence of consanguinity in Morocco was found to be 15.25% with a mean inbreeding coefficient of 0.0065. The differences in the rates of consanguineous marriages were highly significant when comparing the general population and couples with offspring affected by autosomal recessive conditions. These results place Morocco among the countries in the world with high rates of consanguinity. Autosomal recessive disorders are strongly associated with consanguinity. This study better defines the health risks associated with consanguinity for the development of genetic educational guidelines targeted at the public and the health sector."

Did you take that from Wikipedia it’s false Europeans are the ones who created incest it’s quiet Prevalent in some european countries. Kind of messed up if you ask me

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-15-2020, 11:07 PM
For something Arabs left in North Africa their language, religion, skin colour, surnames, food, turbants, traditions etc. Damn, I bet that they left even the camels.

It is insane how they favor everything Arab over their native culture, so much till the point that their own native Berber language only became a constitutionally official language of Morocco not even ten years ago.

marco
01-15-2020, 11:07 PM
Cultural enrichment that Arabs left in Morocco, marriages between your own cousins:

Consanguineous marriages in Morocco and the consequence for the incidence of autosomal recessive disorders.


"Consanguineous marriage is traditionally common throughout Arab countries. This leads to an increased birth prevalence of infants with recessive disorders, congenital malformations, morbidity and mortality. The aim of this study was to evaluate the rate of consanguineous marriage in families with autosomal recessive diseases, and to compare it with the average rate of consanguinity in the Moroccan population. The study was conducted in the Department of Medical Genetics in Rabat on 176 families with autosomal recessive diseases diagnosed and confirmed by clinical, radiological, enzymatic or molecular investigations. The rate of consanguinity was also studied in 852 families who had infants with trisomy 21 confirmed by karyotyping. These families were chosen because: (i) there is no association between trisomy 21 and consanguinity, (ii) these cases are referred from different regions of Morocco and (iii) they concern all social statuses. Among 176 families with autosomal recessive disorders, consanguineous marriages comprised 59.09% of all marriages. The prevalence of consanguinity in Morocco was found to be 15.25% with a mean inbreeding coefficient of 0.0065. The differences in the rates of consanguineous marriages were highly significant when comparing the general population and couples with offspring affected by autosomal recessive conditions. These results place Morocco among the countries in the world with high rates of consanguinity. Autosomal recessive disorders are strongly associated with consanguinity. This study better defines the health risks associated with consanguinity for the development of genetic educational guidelines targeted at the public and the health sector."
I can understand why iberians are angry because there women are choosing Moroccans over them so of course it angers you

marco
01-15-2020, 11:08 PM
It is insane how they favor everything Arab over their native culture, so much till the point that their own native Berber language only became a constitutionally official language of Morocco not even ten years ago.
I’m not Berber nice try hhh. My results clearly show Arabic origin

marco
01-15-2020, 11:10 PM
Guys don’t let that Sri Lankan make us fight I’m ending this here I’ll report this thread for take down

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-15-2020, 11:12 PM
Did you take that from Wikipedia it’s false Europeans are the ones who created incest it’s quiet Prevalent in some european countries. Kind of messed up if you ask me

No, it is from a reputed medical source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19433002

It is no secret that consanguinity is prevalent in nations that are culturally Arab.

Leto
01-15-2020, 11:14 PM
That's a God-damned Nigger anchorbaby!
Although I agree the Spanish is barely visible in him, I'm still reporting you for trolling.

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 11:15 PM
https://youtu.be/BoLPLsQbdt0


That's funny considering that you are the living definition of someone who has a cuck hold fetish. A Moroccan that identifies himself as Arab, basically the people that oppressed and nearly wiped your entire nation's native culture with repercussions that are still felt all over the North Africa until this day.


haahah, I touch your nerves very easily, sandnigga xD


In Portugal or Spain nobody identifies as Roman, Celt, Visigoth or whatever population was here before. Only as Portuguese or Spanish and if anything, as Iberian. You want to identify as Arab because you were historically oppressed and brainwashed by Arabic cultural replacement that as a consequence they left a huge inferiority complex among Moroccans such as yourself, who rather be delusional and identify as Arab because they are seen as the elite of Morocco over native Berbers (even your King claims to be from an Arabic lineage).

Egyptonigger, one of these is not like the other.


Did you take that from Wikipedia it’s false Europeans are the ones who created incest it’s quiet Prevalent in some european countries. Kind of messed up if you ask me


No, it is from a reputed medical source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19433002

It is no secret that consanguinity is prevalent in nations that are culturally Arab.

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 11:16 PM
Although I agree the Spanish is barely visible in him, I'm still reporting you for trolling.

Why does everyone want to pass as White? Oh wait...

You're like that Norwegian bloke who was arse-raped by a Rapefugee and blamed himself for it publicly. Go play Pharisee and virtue signal, mister SJW, when you trolled his arse several times in this thread.

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 11:17 PM
Nah you are close to Sri Lankan’s

Us saying we're close to sri lankans is like saying you guys are close to horners:


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0.26222989 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118092
0.26288433 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA7
0.26331710 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO11
0.26376319 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA4
0.26475505 Ethiopian_Jew:EthiopianJew4690
0.26641776 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118119
0.26749194 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO5
0.26880638 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY5
0.26970860 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO13
0.27103178 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA11
0.27258626 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR9
0.27549598 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA10
0.28093190 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO19
0.28408908 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO18
0.28520427 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO15
0.28725296 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO6
0.28777438 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO9
0.31414477 Somali:SOMALI6




Distance to: Nomansman_scaled
0.24091628 Chamar:A259
0.24945360 Chamar:A261
0.25072846 Chamar:evo_42
0.25163891 Chamar:evo_41
0.25741410 Chamar:A260
0.36282708 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY17
0.36862964 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR4
0.37020585 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY2
0.37435049 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY9
0.37480645 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA16
0.37687650 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY3
0.37697345 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA24
0.37759194 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY21
0.37786533 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY19
0.37808222 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY10
0.37827667 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY16
0.37889650 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY6
0.37890853 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA14
0.37932305 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR8



Distance to: DM_scaled
0.24091628 Chamar:A259
0.24945360 Chamar:A261
0.25072846 Chamar:evo_42
0.25163891 Chamar:evo_41
0.25741410 Chamar:A260
0.36282708 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY17
0.36862964 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR4
0.37020585 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY2
0.37435049 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY9
0.37480645 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA16
0.37687650 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY3
0.37697345 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA24
0.37759194 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY21
0.37786533 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY19
0.37808222 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY10
0.37827667 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY16
0.37889650 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY6
0.37890853 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA14
0.37932305 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR8


Distance to: Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.23029376 Chamar:A259
0.24030803 Chamar:A261
0.24142038 Chamar:evo_42
0.24280459 Chamar:evo_41
0.24704150 Chamar:A260
0.35969434 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY17
0.36501652 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR4
0.36650664 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY2
0.37093008 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY9
0.37109778 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA16
0.37301330 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY3
0.37340985 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA24
0.37393769 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY10
0.37419969 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY21
0.37437688 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY19
0.37525203 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY16
0.37554696 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY6
0.37588294 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR8
0.37598050 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA14


I assume the horners you guys get at distance of 22 are more caucasiod looking, but im 100% the ones at distance of 25-27% start resembling somalis more then.

However, i can admit us afghans are significantly closer with our much lower euro admix, compared to most euro shifted berbers with shitton of euro(and also a shitton of middleeastern and whatever in them)who are slightly further from dark and very east eurasian shifted horners.

marco
01-15-2020, 11:21 PM
Us saying we're close to sri lankans is like saying you guys are close to horners:


Distance to: Kabyle_scaled
0.21579827 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY17
0.22069484 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY2
0.22101222 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR4
0.22449621 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY16
0.22488314 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY19
0.22498587 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY9
0.22541460 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY6
0.22603655 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA16
0.22699875 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY21
0.22762666 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY3
0.22777820 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY10
0.22880913 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY18
0.22910870 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA14
0.22929467 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA24
0.22952743 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA25
0.22959079 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY1
0.23211151 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR8
0.23327293 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY12
0.23374299 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA2
0.23430112 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA17
0.23454585 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY8
0.23593488 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA19
0.23619369 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA21
0.23730973 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY20
0.23780305 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA6
0.23832201 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY13
0.23939890 Ethiopian_Agaw:T_Agaw-2.DG
0.24049646 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA22
0.24255170 Ethiopian_Agaw:T_Agaw-1.DG
0.24286959 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA5
0.24337686 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA18
0.24469725 Ethiopian_Jew:EthiopianJew1822
0.24734773 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA1
0.24825832 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118113
0.25037346 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO12
0.25064832 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118092
0.25079139 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA3
0.25089048 Ethiopian_Jew:EthiopianJew1831
0.25104533 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA7
0.25177595 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY11
0.25190572 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA4
0.25230020 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO11
0.25254288 Ethiopian_Jew:EthiopianJew4690
0.25426052 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118119
0.25629969 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO5
0.25781513 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY5
0.25786078 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO13
0.25930987 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA11
0.26099659 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR9
0.26455531 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA10
0.26904581 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO19
0.27228391 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO18
0.27300359 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO15
0.27458979 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO9
0.27476932 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO6
0.30035184 Somali:SOMALI6
0.30199978 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO21
0.30255467 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_43S
0.30306574 Somali:SOMALI14
0.30353631 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO7
0.30602462 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO3
0.30611255 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO8
0.30702336 Ethiopian_Wolayta:WOLAYTA1
0.30794219 Somali:SOMALI4
0.30921982 Somali:SOMALI12
0.31057745 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO2
0.31113019 Somali:SOMALI3
0.31113228 Somali:SOMALI15
0.31115970 Somali:SOMALI7
0.31138804 Somali:SOMALI13
0.31225691 Somali:SOMALI1
0.31258390 Somali:SOMALI2
0.31360369 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_34S
0.31728340 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO20
0.31739138 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_40S
0.31820833 Ethiopian_Wolayta:WOLAYTA5
0.32269080 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO16
0.32364321 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_61S
0.32966791 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_23S
0.33059677 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_69S
0.33217498 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_21S
0.33498730 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_35S
0.33638834 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_41S
0.33692473 Ethiopian_Wolayta:WOLAYTA7
0.33882617 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_52S
0.34006741 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO1
0.39007438 Chamar:A259
0.39306925 Chamar:evo_41
0.39722820 Chamar:A261
0.39734228 Chamar:evo_42



Distance to: Libyan:LIB9
0.21791668 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY17
0.22465339 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY2
0.22576584 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR4
0.22760184 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY16
0.22883707 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY9
0.22922058 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY19
0.23014718 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA16
0.23047638 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY6
0.23159918 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA24
0.23177389 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY21
0.23181994 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY10
0.23187630 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY3
0.23230472 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY1
0.23232896 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY18
0.23288870 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA14
0.23487991 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA25
0.23674577 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR8
0.23793711 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY12
0.23966897 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA2
0.23983900 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY8
0.24040340 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA21
0.24083374 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA17
0.24153676 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA19
0.24194456 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY20
0.24221342 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY13
0.24394344 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA6
0.24415436 Ethiopian_Agaw:T_Agaw-2.DG
0.24795647 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA22
0.24852190 Ethiopian_Agaw:T_Agaw-1.DG
0.24885737 Ethiopian_Jew:EthiopianJew1822
0.25061295 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA5
0.25083972 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA1
0.25099417 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA18
0.25290562 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO12
0.25421126 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118113
0.25586656 Ethiopian_Jew:EthiopianJew1831
0.25614291 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY11
0.25702286 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA3
0.25728848 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA7
0.25792390 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118092
0.25798426 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO11
0.25920205 Ethiopian_Jew:EthiopianJew4690
0.25942231 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA4
0.26037923 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118119
0.26188317 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO5
0.26416023 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY5
0.26439989 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO13
0.26664320 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA11
0.26793152 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR9
0.27034719 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA10
0.27562849 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO19
0.27921480 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO18
0.28164411 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO15
0.28306903 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO6
0.28310746 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO9
0.30982581 Somali:SOMALI6
0.31224814 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO21
0.31241544 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_43S
0.31308378 Somali:SOMALI14
0.31428428 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO7
0.31562305 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO8
0.31602410 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO3
0.31623643 Ethiopian_Wolayta:WOLAYTA1
0.31861532 Somali:SOMALI4
0.31986399 Somali:SOMALI12



Distance to: Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.22494477 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY17
0.23019396 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY2
0.23175098 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR4
0.23415718 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY16
0.23482611 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY19
0.23605268 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY9
0.23676045 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA16
0.23691678 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY6
0.23749547 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY21
0.23872043 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY18
0.23874075 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY10
0.23904275 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA24
0.23914566 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY3
0.23930849 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY1
0.23954437 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA14
0.24064015 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA25
0.24271058 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR8
0.24417130 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY12
0.24544273 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY8
0.24545498 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA2
0.24604594 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA21
0.24625213 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA17
0.24671124 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA19
0.24804422 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY20
0.24908008 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY13
0.24958704 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA6
0.24981387 Ethiopian_Agaw:T_Agaw-2.DG
0.25271435 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA22
0.25414944 Ethiopian_Agaw:T_Agaw-1.DG
0.25486857 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA5
0.25562336 Ethiopian_Jew:EthiopianJew1822
0.25568274 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA18
0.25796207 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA1
0.25972416 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118113
0.25990655 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO12
0.26121547 Ethiopian_Jew:EthiopianJew1831
0.26125249 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA3
0.26210001 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY11
0.26222989 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118092
0.26288433 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA7
0.26331710 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO11
0.26376319 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA4
0.26475505 Ethiopian_Jew:EthiopianJew4690
0.26641776 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118119
0.26749194 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO5
0.26880638 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY5
0.26970860 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO13
0.27103178 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA11
0.27258626 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR9
0.27549598 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA10
0.28093190 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO19
0.28408908 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO18
0.28520427 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO15
0.28725296 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO6
0.28777438 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO9
0.31414477 Somali:SOMALI6




Distance to: Nomansman_scaled
0.24091628 Chamar:A259
0.24945360 Chamar:A261
0.25072846 Chamar:evo_42
0.25163891 Chamar:evo_41
0.25741410 Chamar:A260
0.36282708 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY17
0.36862964 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR4
0.37020585 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY2
0.37435049 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY9
0.37480645 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA16
0.37687650 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY3
0.37697345 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA24
0.37759194 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY21
0.37786533 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY19
0.37808222 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY10
0.37827667 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY16
0.37889650 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY6
0.37890853 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA14
0.37932305 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR8



Distance to: DM_scaled
0.24091628 Chamar:A259
0.24945360 Chamar:A261
0.25072846 Chamar:evo_42
0.25163891 Chamar:evo_41
0.25741410 Chamar:A260
0.36282708 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY17
0.36862964 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR4
0.37020585 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY2
0.37435049 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY9
0.37480645 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA16
0.37687650 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY3
0.37697345 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA24
0.37759194 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY21
0.37786533 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY19
0.37808222 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY10
0.37827667 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY16
0.37889650 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY6
0.37890853 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA14
0.37932305 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR8


Distance to: Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.23029376 Chamar:A259
0.24030803 Chamar:A261
0.24142038 Chamar:evo_42
0.24280459 Chamar:evo_41
0.24704150 Chamar:A260
0.35969434 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY17
0.36501652 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR4
0.36650664 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY2
0.37093008 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY9
0.37109778 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA16
0.37301330 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY3
0.37340985 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA24
0.37393769 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY10
0.37419969 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY21
0.37437688 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY19
0.37525203 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY16
0.37554696 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY6
0.37588294 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR8
0.37598050 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA14


I assume the horners you guys get at distance of 22 are more caucasiod looking, but im 100% the ones at distance of 25-27% start resembling somalis more then.

However, i can admit us afghans are significantly closer with our much lower euro admix, compared to most euro shifted berbers with shitton of euro(and also a shitton of middleeastern and whatever in them)who are slightly further from dark and very east eurasian shifted horners.
You all cluster with south Asians this is clear and we have ancient north eastern African dna hence why we are closer they You genetically score no where near the european a Rif or Kabyle scores and you can always spot an Afghan they have a specific look. Post your cords

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 11:22 PM
I can understand why iberians are angry because there women are choosing Moroccans over them so of course it angers you

Moroccans are too ugly for that but well, dreaming is free.

marco
01-15-2020, 11:24 PM
Moroccans are too ugly for that but well, dreaming is free.
Whatever makes you sleep at night I think you’re here insulting because either your mother got fucked by a Moroccan dude or your girlfriend dumped your ass for a Moroccan guy.

marco
01-15-2020, 11:24 PM
Moroccans are too ugly for that but well, dreaming is free.
Personally I wouldn’t go for a spainsh woman they are hairy and age like milk

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 11:25 PM
Moroccans are too ugly for that but well, dreaming is free.

They want handouts from the EU welfare state.

marco
01-15-2020, 11:25 PM
Okay I have to go bye all

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 11:26 PM
You all cluster with south Asians this is clear and we have ancient north eastern African dna hence why we are closer they You genetically score no where near the european a Rif or Kabyle scores and you can always spot an Afghan they have a specific look. Post your cords

Yeah, we cluster close to some iranians, nw south asians and central asian caucasiods. Got no issue with that.

But anyway though, even though im significantly closer to russians compared to kabyles and not even much further from many euros than most euro berbers are(apart from very berber admixed south euros and that can be seen on the vahado distances, but these would be unreliable for you, because theyre not euro as you wished they were) i have no issue admitting afghans are brown and just really far from euros though.

I think you have to start doing the same thing. Anyways, what does it mean "posting your cords"? My english isnt too good

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 11:26 PM
Personally I wouldn’t go for a spainsh woman they are hairy and age like milk

Then why the fuck won't you quit LARPing as an Iberian?

marco
01-15-2020, 11:27 PM
Why does everyone want to pass as White? Oh wait...

You're like that Norwegian bloke who was arse-raped by a Rapefugee and blamed himself for it publicly. Go play Pharisee and virtue signal, mister SJW, when you trolled his arse several times in this thread.
Leave him alone his right though the guys more then half Iberian and you are still calling him names

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 11:28 PM
Okay I have to go bye all

Trolling poseur runs away. How original.

marco
01-15-2020, 11:28 PM
Then why the fuck won't you quit LARPing as an Iberian?
Are you dumb? I was talking about coastal Moroccan not me I’m a desert Arabian

marco
01-15-2020, 11:28 PM
Trolling poseur runs away. How original.
I have to go some of us have to work. I don’t claim benefits like you to chat through the whole night lol see you later

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 11:29 PM
Leave him alone his right though the guys more then half Iberian and you are still calling him names

Do you have schizophrenia?

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 11:30 PM
Really? Which is it?


Are you dumb? I was talking about coastal Moroccan not me I’m a desert Arabian


I have to go some of us have to work. I don’t claim benefits like you to chat through the whole night lol see you later

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 11:32 PM
Whatever makes you sleep at night I think you’re here insulting because either your mother got fucked by a Moroccan dude or your girlfriend dumped your ass for a Moroccan guy.
My mother never would touch semi-niggas like Moroccans, sorry.


Personally I wouldn’t go for a spainsh woman they are hairy and age like milk

Spanish women are among the most beautiful women in the world, and of course they would reject sandiggas like you.
If Spanish women are hairy, then Moroccan women are directly werewolf. I dont know, maybe that is why they dress veil... to hide the moustache...

Nordarya
01-15-2020, 11:47 PM
My mother never would touch semi-niggas like Moroccans, sorry.



Spanish women are among the most beautiful women in the world, and of course they would reject sandiggas like you.
If Spanish women are hairy, then Moroccan women are directly werewolf. I dont know, maybe that is why they dress veil... to hide the moustache...

Is Jean Reno really a Moorish "female"?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Dama_de_Elche_%28M.A.N._Madrid%29_01.jpg

S/he ain't got nothing on her.

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 11:47 PM
Motherfucker...

This thread is getting out of hands. All i just wanted were People's opinions on the results i posted. Can never have anything Nice in TÁ.

This thread really should get locked down

Leto
01-15-2020, 11:53 PM
Motherfucker...

This thread is getting out of hands. All i just wanted were People's opinions on the results i posted. Can never have anything Nice in TÁ.

This thread really should get locked down
And in the end you'll prolly get banned for the third time...

Cristiano viejo
01-15-2020, 11:55 PM
Motherfucker...

This thread is getting out of hands. All i just wanted were People's opinions on the results i posted. Can never have anything Nice in TÁ.

This thread really should get locked down

If you try to make a cocktail joining Moroccans and South Euros, specially Spaniards, like you did, then you have threads like this.

Leto
01-15-2020, 11:55 PM
Leave him alone his right though the guys more then half Iberian and you are still calling him names
He is half Spanish. I assume his Algerian side is black-admixed.

Nomansman
01-15-2020, 11:56 PM
And in the end you'll prolly get banned for the third time...

Cool. Because its my fault some people were Butthurt over Not being closer to Euros and Then started shit.


Edit: LOL, you say it like i Got banned twice from ta because of trolling. I don't even troll(and this entire thread was more civil until Marco came) and only got banned because shelati thought I was hadouken this whole time(he reported me twice)

Nordarya
01-16-2020, 12:11 AM
He is half Spanish. I assume his Algerian side is black-admixed.

Are you talking about the photographs? That is an ugly monster, not a Spaniard...

Nordarya
01-16-2020, 12:15 AM
If you try to make a cocktail joining Moroccans and South Euros, specially Spaniards, like you did, then you have threads like this.

Look at this:


This post only further cements my suspicious. People like you always feel compelled to share "light relatives" or otherwise cherrypicked pics. There are many moroccans and indians who do the same as you're doing.

It's not that I don't believe what you're saying per se. I just know your type is not trustworthy, knowledgeable or even entertaining at all.

Dick
01-16-2020, 01:22 AM
If Spanish women are hairy, then Moroccan women are directly werewolf. I dont know, maybe that is why they dress veil... to hide the moustache...

Lmao CV you're a legend

Nordarya
01-16-2020, 01:39 AM
Lmao CV you're a legend

I went to school with a Morena who was supposedly Porto Rican, but now I know why she was nicknamed Mustachio.

Morena
01-16-2020, 02:08 AM
This is sad. This thread was going so well too. :bored:

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 07:29 AM
Well, since this is my thread and its still alive, i never got to see how close the same berbers are to middleeasterners. Kind of wanted to take the oppoturnity to see how close they be to many of those people:


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0.05802572 Moroccan_South:MOU18
0.06285602 Moroccan_South:MOU15
0.07038263 Moroccan_South:MOU6
0.07047961 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.07062181 Moroccan_South:MOU12
0.07370559 Moroccan_South:MOU5
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0.08733966 Egyptian:Egypt17AQ176
0.08935883 Egyptian:5AJ136
0.09133923 Egyptian:10AJ137
0.09163051 Egyptian:Egypt9AQ172
0.09166735 Egyptian:Egypt12AQ172
0.09326864 Egyptian:2AJ137
0.09342744 Egyptian:4AJ137
0.09421523 Egyptian:9AJ129
0.09513590 Egyptian:Egypt22TD21
0.09606915 Egyptian:15AJ137
0.09964387 Egyptian:Egypt15AQ172
0.09969935 Egyptian:1AJ137
0.10013364 Egyptian:Egypt9AQ177
0.10056735 Egyptian:Egypt3AQ172
0.10059118 Egyptian:3AJ137
0.10243499 Egyptian:Egypt7AQ172
0.10256913 Egyptian:7AJ136
0.10269770 Egyptian:Egypt8AT113
0.10280919 Egyptian:Egypt5AQ172
0.10364833 Egyptian:8AJ129
0.10506915 Egyptian:7AJ129
0.10508603 Egyptian:10AJ136
0.10565279 Egyptian:12AJ129
0.10583822 Egyptian:Egypt1AQ172
0.10606305 Egyptian:12AJ136
0.10667287 Egyptian:4AJ136
0.11136030 Egyptian:8AJ136
0.11881257 Palestinian:HGDP00685
0.11992906 Libyan_Jew:LibyanJew1263
0.12003082 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1507
0.12159043 Egyptian:6AJ129
0.12224235 Libyan_Jew:LibyanJew1438
0.12227640 Egyptian:5AJ137
0.12442326 Syrian:Ber5R35
0.12626096 Palestinian:HGDP00683
0.12802796 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1544
0.12947343 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1763
0.13043378 Moroccan_South:MOU4
0.13052685 Moroccan_Jew:MoroccanJew4789
0.13095143 Moroccan_Jew:MoroccanJew5168
0.13169855 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1511
0.13288884 Moroccan_Jew:MoroccanJew5126
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0.13425746 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1531
0.13438955 Libyan_Jew:LibyanJew1462
0.13535325 Palestinian:HGDP00676
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0.13727700 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1170
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0.13942953 Moroccan_Jew:MoroccanJew4683
0.14009971 Palestinian:HGDP00689
0.14052735 Palestinian:HGDP00690
0.14108463 Palestinian:HGDP00684
0.14155647 Libyan_Jew:LibyanJew1104
0.14183236 Palestinian:HGDP00675
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0.14380853 Syrian:Ber12AL16
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0.14555309 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y018
0.14589677 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y025
0.14618896 Palestinian:HGDP00679
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0.14832497 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew4
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0.15013122 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew1
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0.15166729 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew9
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0.15209488 Yemenite_Amran:Y504
0.15216411 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y036
0.15238006 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew10
0.15238509 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese30AR21
0.15249751 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y382
0.15263474 Yemenite_Amran:Y524
0.15283555 Yemenite_Amran:Y506
0.15344842 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote2
0.15350601 Yemenite_Ma'rib:Y237
0.15369925 Yemenite_Amran:Y544
0.15396935 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote6
0.15418181 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese6AS15
0.15434424 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote5
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0.16253252 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew7
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0.16577083 Yemenite_Mahra:Y349
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0.16750823 Lebanese_Druze:1153
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0.16779520 Saudi:SaudiA8
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0.16836209 Lebanese_Druze:927
0.16837839 Lebanese_Druze:971
0.16870370 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4937
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0.17036187 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese8AS15
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0.17427282 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew5433
0.17438728 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese10AR37
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0.17536220 Saudi:saudi1432
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0.17582578 Syrian:Ber10AH252
0.17619005 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4667
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0.18537148 Yemenite_Mahra:Y311
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0.18695411 Yemenite_Mahra:Y330
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0.19715371 Iranian_Lor:LORII9
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0.20686578 Iranian_Lor:LORII34
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0.23427984 Makrani:HGDP00153
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0.24408006 Moroccan_South:MOU17
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0.27831362 Moroccan_South:ERR11
0.31692678 Moroccan_South:ERR20
0.33041793 Moroccan_South:MOU20
0.34712347 Moroccan_South:MOU7

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 07:31 AM
More:

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0.05307031 Egyptian:Egypt17AQ176
0.05322944 Egyptian:Egypt9AQ172
0.05381903 Egyptian:5AJ136
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0.05869115 Egyptian:Egypt9AQ177
0.06111772 Egyptian:Egypt1AQ172
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0.06379442 Egyptian:Egypt3AQ172
0.06464328 Egyptian:2AJ137
0.06558419 Egyptian:10AJ136
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0.06648850 Egyptian:8AJ129
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0.06736612 Egyptian:Egypt8AT113
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0.06975780 Egyptian:15AJ137
0.07025397 Egyptian:12AJ136
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0.08935826 Libyan_Jew:LibyanJew1263
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0.09468099 Syrian:Ber6AG118
0.09581103 Palestinian:HGDP00684
0.09621709 Palestinian:HGDP00690
0.09637840 Palestinian:HGDP00689
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0.09646955 Moroccan_South:MOU15
0.09729289 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1544
0.09804999 Syrian:Ber5AL10
0.09817511 Syrian:Ber13R7
0.09851477 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1763
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0.09966851 Syrian:Ber12AL16
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Nomansman
01-16-2020, 07:35 AM
More:

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0.07743298 Moroccan_South:ERR12
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0.09520766 Egyptian:10AJ137
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0.10285436 Egyptian:Egypt7AQ172
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0.11223631 Moroccan_Jew:MoroccanJew5168
0.11247867 Moroccan_Jew:MoroccanJew4789
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0.11661394 Moroccan_Jew:MoroccanJew5126
0.11678251 Egyptian:6AJ129
0.11784115 Libyan_Jew:LibyanJew1462
0.11820782 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1511
0.11906782 Egyptian:7AJ129
0.11966878 Palestinian:HGDP00683
0.11995018 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1531
0.12027378 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1170
0.12050249 Libyan_Jew:LibyanJew1601
0.12127030 Moroccan_Jew:MoroccanJew4683
0.12144169 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1421
0.12215133 Syrian:Ber5R35
0.12405600 Palestinian:HGDP00676
0.12493041 Libyan_Jew:LibyanJew1104
0.12683052 Palestinian:HGDP00688
0.12759627 Palestinian:HGDP00677
0.12992993 Palestinian:HGDP00684
0.13034610 Palestinian:HGDP00690
0.13066789 Palestinian:HGDP00689
0.13279812 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew4
0.13353684 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew1
0.13424386 Syrian:Ber5AL10
0.13479880 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y018
0.13484303 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew9
0.13485356 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew10
0.13522983 Palestinian:HGDP00679
0.13608670 Syrian:Ber13R7
0.13619101 Palestinian:HGDP00675
0.13626439 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew3
0.13689647 Syrian:Ber6AG118
0.13692910 Syrian:Ber9AG181
0.13700608 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote2
0.13716671 Yemenite_Amran:Y517
0.13732652 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote6
0.13838585 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote5
0.13902432 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote1
0.13905600 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y025
0.13927971 Syrian_Jew:SyriaJewK6
0.13953206 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote4
0.13980876 Yemenite_Amran:Y524
0.14051431 Syrian:Ber12AL16
0.14054023 Yemenite_Amran:Y522
0.14084857 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew2
0.14109527 Syrian:Ber5AL16
0.14165950 Syrian:Ber16AG177
0.14194451 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew5
0.14208500 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese6AS15
0.14226624 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese30AR21
0.14241671 Syrian:Ber1AM54
0.14275590 Yemenite_Amran:Y519
0.14285649 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y006
0.14352586 Yemenite_Amran:Y504
0.14370256 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote3
0.14371031 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese10AQ127
0.14376598 Yemenite_Amran:Y546
0.14394982 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew8
0.14409527 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ127
0.14412775 Yemenite_Amran:Y506
0.14442940 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew7
0.14454147 Yemenite_Ma'rib:Y237
0.14500616 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y382
0.14523915 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese11AS14
0.14576149 Yemenite_Amran:Y542
0.14578038 Lebanese_Druze:799
0.14578047 Syrian_Jew:SyriaJewSY06
0.14582940 Egyptian:5AJ137
0.14586518 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote7
0.14599834 Yemenite_Al_Bayda:Y086
0.14605400 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ121
0.14607941 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y036
0.14618201 Yemenite_Amran:Y544
0.14642109 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew6
0.14691412 Yemenite_Al_Bayda:Y089
0.14698911 Yemenite_Amran:Y540
0.14742294 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese24AR27
0.14841543 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y038
0.14843639 Yemenite_Amran:Y528
0.14846487 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese15AR37
0.14854872 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour:Beit_Sahour1
0.14874769 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y392
0.14911589 Yemenite_Amran:Y536
0.14999360 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese7AR23
0.15021115 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese22BA23
0.15022756 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y031
0.15048494 Yemenite_Al_Bayda:Y070
0.15067925 Yemenite_Amran:Y529
0.15078579 Yemenite_Al_Jawf:Y217
0.15079187 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4960
0.15100691 Yemenite_Al_Bayda:Y100
0.15178121 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese4AQ115
0.15193507 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese7AR20
0.15210151 Lebanese_Druze:1247
0.15235677 Yemenite_Al_Bayda:Y097
0.15254963 Lebanese_Druze:981
0.15269629 Yemenite_Mahra:Y313
0.15329655 Lebanese_Druze:1056
0.15335161 Yemenite_Ma'rib:Y241
0.15344914 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese1AQ170
0.15367577 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese1AQ127
0.15375980 Lebanese_Druze:252
0.15394879 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese6AQ115
0.15403281 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour:Beit_Sahour2
0.15405255 Syrian:Ber17AG57
0.15411400 Syrian:Ber7R59
0.15463314 Saudi:SaudiA10
0.15476673 Lebanese_Druze:1153
0.15490846 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4695
0.15491414 Lebanese_Druze:971
0.15525703 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y037
0.15532376 Yemenite_Al_Jawf:Y221
0.15575961 Moroccan_South:MOU4
0.15577395 Yemenite_Ma'rib:Y219
0.15608961 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese8AS15
0.15609113 Yemenite_Ma'rib:Y239
0.15609588 Lebanese_Druze:927
0.15646944 Syrian:Ber17AG181
0.15648958 Yemenite_Amran:Y518
0.15649264 Syrian:Ber3AG163
0.15661813 Lebanese_Druze:1271
0.15682322 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese6AQ170
0.15704661 Yemenite_Al_Bayda:Y092
0.15713369 Syrian:Ber16AG184
0.15718603 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4938
0.15746988 Yemenite_Mahra:Y349
0.15774963 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese20AR21
0.15896099 Yemenite_Ma'rib:Y236
0.15963901 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4937
0.15967188 Saudi:SaudiA8
0.15996847 Lebanese_Druze:555
0.16027203 Yemenite_Al_Jawf:Y225
0.16034008 Yemenite_Mahra:Y326
0.16035490 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese10AR37
0.16157596 Yemenite_Mahra:Y345
0.16217145 Syrian:Ber10AH252
0.16219995 Syrian:Ber1AH252
0.16223049 Syrian:Ber4AG112
0.16274573 Saudi:SaudiA4
0.16306179 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4684
0.16308995 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese7AQ150
0.16351024 Saudi:saudi1403
0.16404195 Saudi:saudi1432
0.16492260 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew5433
0.16535299 Saudi:SaudiA1
0.16616280 Syrian:Ber12AG184
0.16730315 Saudi:saudi1434
0.16871732 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4667
0.17127671 Saudi:saudi1424
0.17143776 Yemenite_Al_Jawf:Y223
0.17162722 Yemenite_Mahra:Y341
0.17331418 Yemenite_Mahra:Y330
0.17396777 Saudi:saudi1413
0.17420483 Yemenite_Mahra:Y325
0.17461663 Yemenite_Mahra:Y311
0.17497753 Yemenite_Mahra:Y312
0.18672005 Iranian_Lor:LORII9
0.18743773 Moroccan_South:MOU11
0.19198208 Iranian_Lor:LORII51
0.19223488 Syrian:Ber5AG112
0.19276700 Iranian_Lor:LORII19
0.19295677 Iranian_Lor:LORII50
0.19716064 Iranian_Lor:LORII58
0.19727565 Iranian_Lor:LORII34
0.20051282 Iranian_Lor:LORII48
0.20184855 Iranian_Lor:LORII44
0.20276226 Iranian_Lor:LORII36
0.20346747 Iranian_Lor:LORII52
0.23281235 Makrani:HGDP00153
0.23440042 Makrani:HGDP00145
0.24283270 Makrani:HGDP00157
0.24528609 Makrani:HGDP00155
0.24662245 Makrani:HGDP00137
0.24936103 Makrani:HGDP00154
0.25957926 Moroccan_South:MOU8
0.26294326 Moroccan_South:MOU19
0.27374248 Moroccan_South:MOU17
0.30686749 Moroccan_South:ERR11
0.34598514 Moroccan_South:ERR20
0.36010833 Moroccan_South:MOU20
0.37678808 Moroccan_South:MOU7


It honestly just look like some of them south morroccans are just somali alike samples, while some seems even more east eurasian shifted.
Its really no suprise and people already told me that before, but its interesting to see how far the berbers from the more western parts in north africa(i assume other libyans are even closer to egyptians and other middleeasterners than LIB9) are to everyone else outside their regions.

Seems like everyone being neighbors of saudis(maybe just more like their northern neighbors....not sure how far saudis are to yemenites) are almost closer to south euros than to saudis(yeah, i get it. Saudis have very different admixture compared to other west asians and north africans as well, even more though)

marco
01-16-2020, 11:25 AM
Spanish, italian they always seems to have hairy arms and don't shave them. And to OP you are making yourself look really stupid indian boy don’t worry about North Africans or Europeans you have nothing to do with them. You’re south Asian indian

marco
01-16-2020, 11:26 AM
More:

Distance to: Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.06343130 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.07743298 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.07764062 Moroccan_South:MOU18
0.08328296 Moroccan_South:MOU15
0.08615079 Moroccan_South:MOU12
0.08806170 Moroccan_South:MOU5
0.08863661 Moroccan_South:MOU6
0.08947686 Egyptian:Egypt17AQ176
0.09079570 Egyptian:16AJ137
0.09403246 Egyptian:Egypt22TD21
0.09419167 Egyptian:Egypt12AQ172
0.09429332 Egyptian:5AJ136
0.09520766 Egyptian:10AJ137
0.09546501 Egyptian:9AJ129
0.09601858 Egyptian:Egypt9AQ172
0.09827658 Egyptian:3AJ137
0.09903336 Egyptian:Egypt3AQ172
0.09989043 Egyptian:1AJ137
0.10025733 Egyptian:2AJ137
0.10230099 Egyptian:4AJ137
0.10235561 Egyptian:Egypt9AQ177
0.10248904 Egyptian:10AJ136
0.10285436 Egyptian:Egypt7AQ172
0.10342500 Libyan_Jew:LibyanJew1438
0.10363493 Egyptian:Egypt1AQ172
0.10501350 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1507
0.10540437 Egyptian:7AJ136
0.10587632 Libyan_Jew:LibyanJew1263
0.10587900 Egyptian:Egypt15AQ172
0.10619445 Egyptian:15AJ137
0.10750127 Egyptian:4AJ136
0.10806551 Egyptian:Egypt5AQ172
0.10907749 Egyptian:Egypt8AT113
0.10914107 Egyptian:8AJ129
0.10948490 Egyptian:12AJ136
0.11057456 Egyptian:12AJ129
0.11123616 Egyptian:8AJ136
0.11223631 Moroccan_Jew:MoroccanJew5168
0.11247867 Moroccan_Jew:MoroccanJew4789
0.11313629 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1763
0.11359157 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1544
0.11423441 Palestinian:HGDP00685
0.11661394 Moroccan_Jew:MoroccanJew5126
0.11678251 Egyptian:6AJ129
0.11784115 Libyan_Jew:LibyanJew1462
0.11820782 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1511
0.11906782 Egyptian:7AJ129
0.11966878 Palestinian:HGDP00683
0.11995018 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1531
0.12027378 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1170
0.12050249 Libyan_Jew:LibyanJew1601
0.12127030 Moroccan_Jew:MoroccanJew4683
0.12144169 Tunisian_Jew:TunisianJew1421
0.12215133 Syrian:Ber5R35
0.12405600 Palestinian:HGDP00676
0.12493041 Libyan_Jew:LibyanJew1104
0.12683052 Palestinian:HGDP00688
0.12759627 Palestinian:HGDP00677
0.12992993 Palestinian:HGDP00684
0.13034610 Palestinian:HGDP00690
0.13066789 Palestinian:HGDP00689
0.13279812 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew4
0.13353684 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew1
0.13424386 Syrian:Ber5AL10
0.13479880 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y018
0.13484303 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew9
0.13485356 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew10
0.13522983 Palestinian:HGDP00679
0.13608670 Syrian:Ber13R7
0.13619101 Palestinian:HGDP00675
0.13626439 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew3
0.13689647 Syrian:Ber6AG118
0.13692910 Syrian:Ber9AG181
0.13700608 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote2
0.13716671 Yemenite_Amran:Y517
0.13732652 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote6
0.13838585 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote5
0.13902432 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote1
0.13905600 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y025
0.13927971 Syrian_Jew:SyriaJewK6
0.13953206 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote4
0.13980876 Yemenite_Amran:Y524
0.14051431 Syrian:Ber12AL16
0.14054023 Yemenite_Amran:Y522
0.14084857 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew2
0.14109527 Syrian:Ber5AL16
0.14165950 Syrian:Ber16AG177
0.14194451 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew5
0.14208500 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese6AS15
0.14226624 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese30AR21
0.14241671 Syrian:Ber1AM54
0.14275590 Yemenite_Amran:Y519
0.14285649 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y006
0.14352586 Yemenite_Amran:Y504
0.14370256 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote3
0.14371031 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese10AQ127
0.14376598 Yemenite_Amran:Y546
0.14394982 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew8
0.14409527 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ127
0.14412775 Yemenite_Amran:Y506
0.14442940 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew7
0.14454147 Yemenite_Ma'rib:Y237
0.14500616 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y382
0.14523915 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese11AS14
0.14576149 Yemenite_Amran:Y542
0.14578038 Lebanese_Druze:799
0.14578047 Syrian_Jew:SyriaJewSY06
0.14582940 Egyptian:5AJ137
0.14586518 Romaniote_Jew:Romaniote7
0.14599834 Yemenite_Al_Bayda:Y086
0.14605400 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese2AQ121
0.14607941 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y036
0.14618201 Yemenite_Amran:Y544
0.14642109 Italian_Jew:ItalyJew6
0.14691412 Yemenite_Al_Bayda:Y089
0.14698911 Yemenite_Amran:Y540
0.14742294 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese24AR27
0.14841543 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y038
0.14843639 Yemenite_Amran:Y528
0.14846487 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese15AR37
0.14854872 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour:Beit_Sahour1
0.14874769 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y392
0.14911589 Yemenite_Amran:Y536
0.14999360 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese7AR23
0.15021115 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese22BA23
0.15022756 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y031
0.15048494 Yemenite_Al_Bayda:Y070
0.15067925 Yemenite_Amran:Y529
0.15078579 Yemenite_Al_Jawf:Y217
0.15079187 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4960
0.15100691 Yemenite_Al_Bayda:Y100
0.15178121 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese4AQ115
0.15193507 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese7AR20
0.15210151 Lebanese_Druze:1247
0.15235677 Yemenite_Al_Bayda:Y097
0.15254963 Lebanese_Druze:981
0.15269629 Yemenite_Mahra:Y313
0.15329655 Lebanese_Druze:1056
0.15335161 Yemenite_Ma'rib:Y241
0.15344914 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese1AQ170
0.15367577 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese1AQ127
0.15375980 Lebanese_Druze:252
0.15394879 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese6AQ115
0.15403281 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour:Beit_Sahour2
0.15405255 Syrian:Ber17AG57
0.15411400 Syrian:Ber7R59
0.15463314 Saudi:SaudiA10
0.15476673 Lebanese_Druze:1153
0.15490846 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4695
0.15491414 Lebanese_Druze:971
0.15525703 Yemenite_Dhamar:Y037
0.15532376 Yemenite_Al_Jawf:Y221
0.15575961 Moroccan_South:MOU4
0.15577395 Yemenite_Ma'rib:Y219
0.15608961 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese8AS15
0.15609113 Yemenite_Ma'rib:Y239
0.15609588 Lebanese_Druze:927
0.15646944 Syrian:Ber17AG181
0.15648958 Yemenite_Amran:Y518
0.15649264 Syrian:Ber3AG163
0.15661813 Lebanese_Druze:1271
0.15682322 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese6AQ170
0.15704661 Yemenite_Al_Bayda:Y092
0.15713369 Syrian:Ber16AG184
0.15718603 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4938
0.15746988 Yemenite_Mahra:Y349
0.15774963 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese20AR21
0.15896099 Yemenite_Ma'rib:Y236
0.15963901 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4937
0.15967188 Saudi:SaudiA8
0.15996847 Lebanese_Druze:555
0.16027203 Yemenite_Al_Jawf:Y225
0.16034008 Yemenite_Mahra:Y326
0.16035490 Lebanese_Christian:Lebanese10AR37
0.16157596 Yemenite_Mahra:Y345
0.16217145 Syrian:Ber10AH252
0.16219995 Syrian:Ber1AH252
0.16223049 Syrian:Ber4AG112
0.16274573 Saudi:SaudiA4
0.16306179 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4684
0.16308995 Lebanese_Muslim:Lebanese7AQ150
0.16351024 Saudi:saudi1403
0.16404195 Saudi:saudi1432
0.16492260 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew5433
0.16535299 Saudi:SaudiA1
0.16616280 Syrian:Ber12AG184
0.16730315 Saudi:saudi1434
0.16871732 Yemenite_Jew:YemeniteJew4667
0.17127671 Saudi:saudi1424
0.17143776 Yemenite_Al_Jawf:Y223
0.17162722 Yemenite_Mahra:Y341
0.17331418 Yemenite_Mahra:Y330
0.17396777 Saudi:saudi1413
0.17420483 Yemenite_Mahra:Y325
0.17461663 Yemenite_Mahra:Y311
0.17497753 Yemenite_Mahra:Y312
0.18672005 Iranian_Lor:LORII9
0.18743773 Moroccan_South:MOU11
0.19198208 Iranian_Lor:LORII51
0.19223488 Syrian:Ber5AG112
0.19276700 Iranian_Lor:LORII19
0.19295677 Iranian_Lor:LORII50
0.19716064 Iranian_Lor:LORII58
0.19727565 Iranian_Lor:LORII34
0.20051282 Iranian_Lor:LORII48
0.20184855 Iranian_Lor:LORII44
0.20276226 Iranian_Lor:LORII36
0.20346747 Iranian_Lor:LORII52
0.23281235 Makrani:HGDP00153
0.23440042 Makrani:HGDP00145
0.24283270 Makrani:HGDP00157
0.24528609 Makrani:HGDP00155
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0.24936103 Makrani:HGDP00154
0.25957926 Moroccan_South:MOU8
0.26294326 Moroccan_South:MOU19
0.27374248 Moroccan_South:MOU17
0.30686749 Moroccan_South:ERR11
0.34598514 Moroccan_South:ERR20
0.36010833 Moroccan_South:MOU20
0.37678808 Moroccan_South:MOU7


It honestly just look like some of them south morroccans are just somali alike samples, while some seems even more east eurasian shifted.
Its really no suprise and people already told me that before, but its interesting to see how far the berbers from the more western parts in north africa(i assume other libyans are even closer to egyptians and other middleeasterners than LIB9) are to everyone else outside their regions.

Seems like everyone being neighbors of saudis(maybe just more like their northern neighbors....not sure how far saudis are to yemenites) are almost closer to south euros than to saudis(yeah, i get it. Saudis have very different admixture compared to other west asians and north africans as well, even more though)

Run the models I know for a fact indians like you don’t score any bell beakers, Iberian or Italian

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 11:41 AM
Lol, who said we score bell beakers or whatever kind of shit?

We score steppe however. Cool, we score 0% med/italian and yet arent much further from the same euros you border(or better way to say it, my "white" friend, you guys arent closer to south euros than black indians are, hahahaha).

Lol, im 100% sure now youre a butthurt white wannabe "arab" morroccan. You cant take the fact that morroccans arent much closer to euros than indians are and start fucking this thread up. Its more your fault people are insulting morrocans here than anyone else's.

Also, i checked on gedmatch your distances to spanish people. Youre still far asf from them, just slightly closer. Your extreme lack of steppe(and slight CHG) and extreme high amount of middleeastern pulls you miles away from the euros you wished you were like.

So much for being 70% euro

: /

Youre right though. I dont have anything in common with euros or north africans. Looking at distances, that doesnt seem to be the case for morroccans either ;)

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 11:54 AM
Run the models I know for a fact indians like you don’t score any bell beakers, Iberian or Italian

And FYI, i cherry picked using the most euro leaning berber samples. Now with avg north morroccan:


Distance to: Moroccan_North
0.14828204 Spanish_Canarias
0.17687134 Spanish_Extremadura
0.17707502 Portuguese
0.18058658 Spanish_Andalucia
0.18144172 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.18177243 Spanish_Murcia
0.18209626 Spanish_Galicia
0.18703028 Spanish_Asturias
0.18817996 Spanish_Alacant
0.18924944 Spanish_Eivissa
0.18948555 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.18956536 Spanish_Menorca
0.19196153 Spanish_Baleares
0.19203693 Spanish_Valencia
0.19262475 Spanish_Cataluna
0.19428557 Spanish_Mallorca
0.19437938 Spanish_Aragon
0.19526794 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.19659481 Spanish_Navarra
0.19663214 Spanish_Pirineu
0.19673530 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.19698995 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.19700095 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.19718720 Spanish_Castello
0.19778604 Spanish_Cantabria
0.19815250 Spanish_Girona
0.19892973 Spanish_Lleida
0.19904283 Spanish_Penedes
0.19998070 Spanish_Barcelones
0.20128990 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.20361334 Spanish_Soria
0.21205497 Spanish_Pais_Vasco


Lol, even further from heavily north african admixed spanish and even further from more pure euros, almost as close to them as i am.

Guess you guys really are 70% euro

: /

marco
01-16-2020, 11:56 AM
Lol, who said we score bell beakers or whatever kind of shit?

We score steppe however. Cool, we score 0% med/italian and yet arent much further from the same euros you border(or better way to say it, my "white" friend, you guys arent closer to south euros than black indians are, hahahaha).

Lol, im 100% sure now youre a butthurt white wannabe "arab" morroccan. You cant take the fact that morroccans arent much closer to euros than indians are and start fucking this thread up. Its more your fault people are insulting morrocans here than anyone else's.

Also, i checked on gedmatch your distances to spanish people. Youre still far asf from them, just slightly closer. Your extreme lack of steppe(and slight CHG) and extreme high amount of middleeastern pulls you miles away from the euros you wished you were like.

So much for being 70% euro

: /

Youre right though. I dont have anything in common with euros or north africans. Looking at distances, that doesnt seem to be the case for morroccans either ;)
You keep saying white who said I want to be white? I’m Arabian desert boy and you are an indian. Stop looking at distances and run the models you are insincere I’ll run them for you indian and post your cords

marco
01-16-2020, 12:02 PM
Target: Moroccan_North:MCH9
Distance: 3.2968% / 0.03296840
32.6 IBEROMAURUSIAN
30.0 IBERIAN
22.2 GREEK
12.0 LEVANTINE
3.2 SOUTHEAST-AFRICA

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 12:05 PM
Nomansman_scaled,0.093335,0.051792,-0.072784,0.042959,-0.06432,0.023706,0.00423,0.007615,-0.026179,-0.026242,-0.003085,0.003897,0.000595,-0.006331,0.019272,0.013126,-0.007953,-0.002154,0.002011,-0.014507,-0.003244,-0.013231,0.007025,-0.000361,0.005149


Lol, yeah. Fuck the distances because it shows the reality how close you morroccans are to euros(if it REALLY didnt bother you, how come you only be the only morrocan getting bothered by this? Youre literally the only morrocan to say youre very close to euros anyway, while all the others were cool with how far theyre from euros? Sure you just identify as "arabian"? I feel like you wanna be close to the spanish as well and looking at the distances tear your heart apart ;)), lets just focus on you guys getting shitton of euro and forget the rest of your admix

: /

And yeah, guess what? I KNOW i get WAY(to almost none) lower bell beaker or whatever youre gonna model me with compared to morroccans, since i instead get WAY higher steppe than morroccans. So you aint gonna suprise me, if i get 0%
I CAN at least admit i have nothing to do with north africans or EUROS. I think you have to start see the reality front of your eyes and stop being a thin skin white wannabe ;)

marco
01-16-2020, 12:05 PM
Target: Moroccan_North:MNA3
Distance: 2.5529% / 0.02552876
43.4 GREEK
31.0 IBEROMAURUSIAN
14.4 IBERIAN
10.0 LEVANTINE
1.2 SOUTHEAST-AFRICA

marco
01-16-2020, 12:06 PM
Nomansman_scaled,0.093335,0.051792,-0.072784,0.042959,-0.06432,0.023706,0.00423,0.007615,-0.026179,-0.026242,-0.003085,0.003897,0.000595,-0.006331,0.019272,0.013126,-0.007953,-0.002154,0.002011,-0.014507,-0.003244,-0.013231,0.007025,-0.000361,0.005149


Lol, yeah. Fuck the distances because it shows the reality how close you morroccans are to euros(if it REALLY didnt bother you, how come you only be the only morrocan getting bothered by this? Youre literally the only morrocan to say youre very close to euros anyway, while all the others were cool with how far theyre from euros? Sure you just identify as "arabian"? I feel like you wanna be close to the spanish as well and looking at the distances tear your heart apart ;)), lets just focus on you guys getting shitton of euro and forget the rest of your admix

: /

And yeah, guess what? I KNOW i get WAY(to almost none) lower bell beaker or whatever youre gonna model me with compared to morroccans, since i instead get WAY higher steppe than morroccans. So you aint gonna suprise me, if i get 0%
I CAN at least admit i have nothing to do with north africans or EUROS. I think you have to start see the reality front of your eyes and stop being a thin skin white wannabe ;)
Where did I say I want to be close to Spanish people or whites? You’re clearly a troll. Not falling for the bait you are the one who wants to be european you are clearly jealous of coastal Moroccans just be happy with what you are an indian or south Asian whatever it’s called

marco
01-16-2020, 12:07 PM
Target: Nomansman_scaled
Distance: 2.3966% / 0.02396576
48.2 SWAT-VALLEY
31.4 EASTERN-IRANIAN
17.4 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
1.8 PANNONIAN-PONTIC
1.2 STEPPE-NOMADS

This is you

marco
01-16-2020, 12:09 PM
Target: Nomansman_scaled
Distance: 1.2882% / 0.01288219
37.4 CENTRAL_ASIA
24.2 PAKISTAN
19.8 RUSSIAN-STEPPE
8.2 IVC
4.0 LEVANT
2.8 CHINA-STEPPE
2.4 STEPPE-RICH-NORTH-EUROPE
0.8 ANATOLIA
0.2 BALTIC
0.2 CIMMERIAN

This is other model

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 12:10 PM
Im black south asian. I have no issues admitting that.

Youre the one who calls me indian because youre butthurt. Its really evident.

And if i REALLY wanted to show im close to euros, why would i post my distance results? does distance of 20 sound ANYWHERE near close to south euros?
Thats a pretty dumb move for me, if i was a white wannabe : /

marco
01-16-2020, 12:10 PM
let’s see how you compare with north Moroccan

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 12:12 PM
Target: Nomansman_scaled
Distance: 1.2882% / 0.01288219
37.4 CENTRAL_ASIA
24.2 PAKISTAN
19.8 RUSSIAN-STEPPE
8.2 IVC
4.0 LEVANT
2.8 CHINA-STEPPE
2.4 STEPPE-RICH-NORTH-EUROPE
0.8 ANATOLIA
0.2 BALTIC
0.2 CIMMERIAN

This is other model



Whats central asia? How did you even get to use the correct references for me?

marco
01-16-2020, 12:12 PM
Im black south asian. I have no issues admitting that.

Youre the one who calls me indian because youre butthurt. Its really evident.

And if i REALLY wanted to show im close to euros, why would i post my distance results? does distance of 20 sound ANYWHERE near close to south euros?
Thats a pretty dumb move for me, if i was a white wannabe : /
You’re not black I didn’t say that

Avicenna
01-16-2020, 12:12 PM
Im black south asian. I have no issues admitting that.

Youre the one who calls me indian because youre butthurt. Its really evident.

And if i REALLY wanted to show im close to euros, why would i post my distance results? does distance of 20 sound ANYWHERE near close to south euros?
Thats a pretty dumb move for me, if i was a white wannabe : /

And the funny thing is... Your closer to Spaniards let alone other euros who are closer to you whiist being thousands of miles away from iberia lmao

marco
01-16-2020, 12:15 PM
Target: Moroccan_North:MCH9
Distance: 2.7394% / 0.02739401
32.2 MAR_Iberomaurusian
28.6 IBERIA
24.8 GREECE-MINOAN
6.8 KENYA
4.2 LEVANT
3.0 WHG-RICH-NORTH-EUROPE-WELZIN
0.4 ANATOLIA

marco
01-16-2020, 12:16 PM
Target: Moroccan_North:MNA4
Distance: 2.9539% / 0.02953925
39.8 GREECE-MINOAN
29.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
16.2 WHG-RICH-NORTH-EUROPE-WELZIN
7.2 KENYA
4.0 LEVANT
3.0 IRAN

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 12:17 PM
Target: Moroccan_North:MCH9
Distance: 2.7394% / 0.02739401
32.2 MAR_Iberomaurusian
28.6 IBERIA
24.8 GREECE-MINOAN
6.8 KENYA
4.2 LEVANT
3.0 WHG-RICH-NORTH-EUROPE-WELZIN
0.4 ANATOLIA


Do you use some program or what?

Yeahyeahyeah, you guys are whiteys, fuck the distance results

Seriously now, which program do you use?

marco
01-16-2020, 12:18 PM
And the funny thing is... Your closer to Spaniards let alone other euros who are closer to you whiist being thousands of miles away from iberia lmao
You can be close but not share any dna as I’ve showed in the results

Avicenna
01-16-2020, 12:20 PM
You can be close but not share any dna as I’ve showed in the results

Thats no how you check for dna lmao smh.

marco
01-16-2020, 12:24 PM
Do you use some program or what?

Yeahyeahyeah, you guys are whiteys, fuck the distance results

Seriously now, which program do you use?
Yes this shows you’re percentages and what you are genetically. Go check how far North Africans are from Yoruba samples 55 percent further then anything else yet we still score it you don’t understand genetics. And I’m not european I’m Arabic this is coastal Moroccan results don’t call me european

marco
01-16-2020, 12:24 PM
Thats no how you check for dna lmao smh.
Post your cords so we can see what you really are

Avicenna
01-16-2020, 12:30 PM
Yes this shows you’re percentages and what you are genetically. Go check how far North Africans are from Yoruba samples 55 percent further then anything else yet we still score it you don’t understand genetics. And I’m not european I’m Arabic this is coastal Moroccan results don’t call me european

If you want to check if you have Spanish dna then this ain't the one for you. You first have to see if you have any distant cousins who are or Spanish ancestry. Dstats are also another marker for deep ancestral analysis as well your paternal lineage and maternal lineage.

marco
01-16-2020, 12:31 PM
Post your cords so we can see what you really are


Distance: 1.3755% / 0.01375461
37.4 LEVANT
24.6 MAR_Iberomaurusian
12.0 GREECE-MINOAN
11.2 IBERIA
10.6 Yoruba
3.8 TANZANIA
0.4 KENYA
I’m Arabic my top score is always levant

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 12:32 PM
You can be close but not share any dna as I’ve showed in the results

But WE DO share some admix with them. We just cant get modelled with the right components thats shared with spanish as you. But if you check our gedmatch results on every calc, you can literally see us afghans share SOME gedrosia/CHG/BMAC(spanish get much lower amounts compared to afghans, but significanlty more compared to all africans. Seems like it must been the indo-european influence. Hence why youre slightly closer to sardinians and we afghans are MUCH MUCH further from them), SOME steppe admix(ne-euro, scandinavian etc, while morroccans almost get 0%, afghans are not too far scoring half as much "steppe"/"ne-euro" as spanish people). We even score tiny traces of med(MUCH smaller amount compared to you, at max up to 1/10 of what you north morroccans score).



However due to our slighty high aasi admix, higher CHG and MUCH lower med admix, we ended up as far from them as you guys did. gedmatch is even less reliable than nmonte(im still 100% sure berbers will never be close to non-north african admixed south euros), but it kind of shows why we afghans get the spanish as such distance, almost as much as avg north morroccans

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 12:33 PM
Yes this shows you’re percentages and what you are genetically. Go check how far North Africans are from Yoruba samples 55 percent further then anything else yet we still score it you don’t understand genetics. And I’m not european I’m Arabic this is coastal Moroccan results don’t call me european

Yeah, but....what program did you use? Now im curious.

marco
01-16-2020, 12:33 PM
But WE DO share some admix with them. We just cant get modelled with the right components thats shared with spanish as you. But if you check our gedmatch results on every calc, you can literally see us afghans share SOME gedrosia/CHG/BMAC(spanish get much lower amounts compared to afghans, but significanlty more compared to all africans. Seems like it must been the indo-european influence. Hence why youre slightly closer to sardinians and we afghans are MUCH MUCH further from them), SOME steppe admix(ne-euro, scandinavian etc, while morroccans almost get 0%, afghans are not too far scoring half as much "steppe"/"ne-euro" as spanish people). We even score tiny traces of med(MUCH smaller amount compared to you, at max up to 1/10 of what you north morroccans score).



However due to our slighty high aasi admix, higher CHG and MUCH lower med admix, we ended up as far from them as you guys did. gedmatch is even less reliable than nmonte(im still 100% sure berbers will never be close to non-north african admixed south euros), but it kind of shows why we afghans get the spanish as such distance, almost as much as avg north morroccans
Some being the keyword, north Moroccans sharing a lot as I showed you I can model you that way you like and see if you score any Iberian but I doubt you will

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 12:38 PM
Yes this shows you’re percentages and what you are genetically. Go check how far North Africans are from Yoruba samples 55 percent further then anything else yet we still score it you don’t understand genetics. And I’m not european I’m Arabic this is coastal Moroccan results don’t call me european

Yeah, but....what program did you use? Now im curious.


And seriously, whats even the fuss? All i did was just posting distance results of morroccans(or berbers in general, just cherry picked the most euro leaning berbers and one of them is libyan as you can see), because i was suprised how far you guys are from them and even not much closer to pure euros than we are(now im not much suprised anymore after i saw both n morroccan and spanish gedmatch results), i didnt say that afghans are white(how can i even show that, if im not even closer to at distane than 17 to some south italians....and distance of 9 is already far!), just a bit suprised how you didnt turn much closer to the south euros, even the most euro berbers.


It was all civil(maybe apart from some of the spanish who would get a bit uncomfortable) until you appeared. If youre arguing morroccans sharing a lot more admix with spanish than afghans do, fine. I never expected it to be the other way, since you guys are RIGHT NEXT to south west euros.

marco
01-16-2020, 12:41 PM
Whats central asia? How did you even get to use the correct references for me?


Yeah, but....what program did you use? Now im curious.


And seriously, whats even the fuss? All i did was just posting distance results of morroccans(or berbers in general, just cherry picked the most euro leaning berbers and one of them is libyan as you can see), because i was suprised how far you guys are from them and even not much closer to pure euros than we are(now im not much suprised anymore after i saw both n morroccan and spanish gedmatch results), i didnt say that afghans are white(how can i even show that, if im not even closer to at distane than 17 to some south italians....and distance of 9 is already far!), just a bit suprised how you didnt turn much closer to the south euros, even the most euro berbers.


It was all civil(maybe apart from some of the spanish who would get a bit uncomfortable) until you appeared. If youre arguing morroccans sharing a lot more admix with spanish than afghans do, fine. I never expected it to be the other way, since you guys are RIGHT NEXT to south west euros.

Target: Nomansman_scaled
Distance: 1.5133% / 0.01513300
50.8 BACTRIA-MARGIANA
15.0 INDUS-VALLEY-CIVILIZATION
10.8 CORDED-WARE-GERMANY
8.2 STEPPE
7.0 BRITAIN-CA-EBA
2.6 LEVANT
2.2 TUNGUS
2.0 STEPPE-WEST
0.6 HUNS
0.4 BEAKERS-BRITAIN
0.4 IBEROMAURUSIAN

I think this is better for you

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 12:42 PM
Some being the keyword, north Moroccans sharing a lot as I showed you I can model you that way you like and see if you score any Iberian but I doubt you will

You can try. i also believe i will get extremely low to almost none.

But if you cant get by what im talking about, you can see it for yourself here:


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1l87nGSIYTP-h7m-VKjB-BZcuEoWdz765nU4f_krOdd4/edit?ouid=118093239279824157385&usp=sheets_home&ths=true


Look for spanish and n morroccans. I know this calc is meant more for south asians, but the admix results arent really that unreliable and actually gives an explanation why north morroccans arent MUCH MUCH closer to spanish than afghans are.

marco
01-16-2020, 12:43 PM
You can try. i also believe i will get extremely low to almost none.

But if you cant get by what im talking about, you can see it for yourself here:


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1l87nGSIYTP-h7m-VKjB-BZcuEoWdz765nU4f_krOdd4/edit?ouid=118093239279824157385&usp=sheets_home&ths=true


Look for spanish and n morroccans. I know this calc is meant more for south asians, but the admix results arent really that unreliable and actually gives an explanation why north morroccans arent MUCH MUCH closer to spanish than afghans are.
Sorry I can’t click onto anything it might give me virus

Nordarya
01-16-2020, 12:44 PM
Target: Nomansman_scaled
Distance: 2.3966% / 0.02396576
48.2 SWAT-VALLEY
31.4 EASTERN-IRANIAN
17.4 NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN
1.8 PANNONIAN-PONTIC
1.2 STEPPE-NOMADS

This is you That's very Indo-European.


Target: Nomansman_scaled
Distance: 1.2882% / 0.01288219
37.4 CENTRAL_ASIA
24.2 PAKISTAN
19.8 RUSSIAN-STEPPE
8.2 IVC
4.0 LEVANT
2.8 CHINA-STEPPE
2.4 STEPPE-RICH-NORTH-EUROPE
0.8 ANATOLIA
0.2 BALTIC
0.2 CIMMERIAN

This is other model What's not Indo-European about Scythian ancestry?


Distance: 1.3755% / 0.01375461
37.4 LEVANT
24.6 MAR_Iberomaurusian
12.0 GREECE-MINOAN
11.2 IBERIA
10.6 Yoruba
3.8 TANZANIA
0.4 KENYA
I’m Arabic my top score is always levantThis isn't a Caucasoid profile.

marco
01-16-2020, 12:52 PM
That's very Indo-European.

What's not Indo-European about Scythian ancestry?

This isn't a Caucasoid profile.

The last one is mine and I’m arab

Target: Moroccan_North:MCH9
Distance: 2.7394% / 0.02739401
32.2 MAR_Iberomaurusian
28.6 IBERIA
24.8 GREECE-MINOAN
6.8 KENYA
4.2 LEVANT
3.0 WHG-RICH-NORTH-EUROPE-WELZIN
0.4 ANATOLIA

That’s a North Moroccan. His got a lot of Indian blood it’s not a typical indo european result

marco
01-16-2020, 12:53 PM
Target: Moroccan_North:MNA4
Distance: 2.9539% / 0.02953925
39.8 GREECE-MINOAN
29.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
16.2 WHG-RICH-NORTH-EUROPE-WELZIN
7.2 KENYA
4.0 LEVANT
3.0 IRAN

marco
01-16-2020, 12:54 PM
Anyway in conclusion north Moroccans share a lot of dna with Southern Europeans that’s all there is to it. Distances are an illusion

Nordarya
01-16-2020, 12:56 PM
The last one is mine and I’m arab

Target: Moroccan_North:MCH9
Distance: 2.7394% / 0.02739401
32.2 MAR_Iberomaurusian
28.6 IBERIA
24.8 GREECE-MINOAN
6.8 KENYA
4.2 LEVANT
3.0 WHG-RICH-NORTH-EUROPE-WELZIN
0.4 ANATOLIA

That’s a North Moroccan. His got a lot of Indian blood it’s not a typical indo european result

Yoruba, Tanzania and Kenya are Negroid. Nomansman has a classic Indo-Scythian profile, which is part of my race.

marco
01-16-2020, 12:58 PM
Yoruba, Tanzania and Kenya are Negroid. Nomansman has a classic Indo-Scythian profile, which is part of my race.
6.8 percent Kenyan is normal considering Americans score an average score of that probably. Way to ignore the rest of the results that North Moroccan clearly shares a lot of dna with Southern Europeans. You are British don’t I don’t know why you are involved. You have nothing to do with this conversation you are basic

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 12:59 PM
Sorry I can’t click onto anything it might give me virus

Have you tried or are you worried that it M I G H T be a virus?

But ok. I can post our HW admix results.

This is me:


Baloch: 36,7%
Caucasian: 24,5%
S-Indian: 14,70%
NE-Euro: 14,21%
Med: 1,62%
SW-Asian: 3,79%


N morroccans:

Baloch: 0%
Caucasian: 2%
NE-euro: 1%
Med: 46%
SW-Asian: 28%
E-African: 10%
W-African: 8%



Spanish:


Baloch: 6,5%
Caucasian: 10,5%
NE-Euro: 31%
Med: 44,5%
SW-Asian: 5%
W-Afircan: 0%
E-African: 0%

And i think thats the case in many other calcs. It REALLY does explain why you guys arent closer to south euros than we're(Apart from sardinians and n-african admixed south euros). Gedmatch is not really super correct, but it does give you an idea.

marco
01-16-2020, 12:59 PM
Just to clarify anyone that’s not Southern European or Mediterranean doesn’t really have say in this debate go compare elsewhere

marco
01-16-2020, 01:01 PM
Have you tried or are you worried that it M I G H T be a virus?

But ok. I can post our HW admix results.

This is me:


Baloch: 36,7%
Caucasian: 24,5%
S-Indian: 14,70%
NE-Euro: 14,21%
Med: 1,62%
SW-Asian: 3,79%


N morroccans:

Baloch: 0%
Caucasian: 2%
NE-euro: 1%
Med: 46%
SW-Asian: 28%
E-African: 10%
W-African: 8%



Spanish:


Baloch: 6,5%
Caucasian: 10,5%
NE-Euro: 31%
Med: 44,5%
SW-Asian: 5%
W-Afircan: 0%
E-African: 0%

And i think thats the case in many other calcs. It REALLY does explain why you guys arent closer to south euros than we're(Apart from sardinians and n-african admixed south euros). Gedmatch is not really super correct, but it does give you an idea.

N morroccans:

Baloch: 0%
Caucasian: 2%
NE-euro: 1%
Med: 46%
SW-Asian: 28%
E-African: 10%
W-African: 8%

You just posted something with North Moroccan on it we don’t know the background of this person so you are cherry picking I already posted results which were accurate

marco
01-16-2020, 01:01 PM
This is me:


Baloch: 36,7%
Caucasian: 24,5%
S-Indian: 14,70%
NE-Euro: 14,21%
Med: 1,62%
SW-Asian: 3,79%

This is highly unlikely south Indian is to low

Nomansman
01-16-2020, 01:05 PM
This is me:


Baloch: 36,7%
Caucasian: 24,5%
S-Indian: 14,70%
NE-Euro: 14,21%
Med: 1,62%
SW-Asian: 3,79%

This is highly unlikely south Indian is to low

Ok, i can post my results now:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 36.7
2 Caucasian 24.54
3 S-Indian 14.69
4 NE-Euro 14.21
5 SW-Asian 3.79
6 Siberian 1.83
7 Mediterranean 1.62
8 Beringian 1.19
9 American 0.79
10 Papuan 0.64

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 pashtun (harappa) 7.4
2 kalash (hgdp) 11.54
3 tajik (yunusbayev) 12.01
4 pathan (hgdp) 12.4
5 sindhi (harappa) 15.65
6 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 16.23
7 burusho (hgdp) 16.87
8 bhatia (harappa) 16.9
9 turkmen (yunusbayev) 17.44
10 kashmiri (harappa) 17.64
11 haryana-jatt (harappa) 17.97
12 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 18.04
13 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 19.25
14 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 20.38
15 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 21.05
16 punjabi (harappa) 21.38
17 sindhi (hgdp) 21.77
18 balochi (hgdp) 21.79
19 punjabi-arain (xing) 21.79
20 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 22.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.1% pathan (hgdp) + 33.9% stalskoe (xing) @ 2.55
2 67.9% pathan (hgdp) + 32.1% lezgin (behar) @ 2.73
3 52.3% sindhi (hgdp) + 47.7% stalskoe (xing) @ 2.83
4 58.7% bhatia (harappa) + 41.3% stalskoe (xing) @ 2.86
5 53% sindhi (hgdp) + 47% urkarah (xing) @ 2.88
6 66.9% pathan (hgdp) + 33.1% urkarah (xing) @ 2.96
7 61.3% sindhi (harappa) + 38.7% urkarah (xing) @ 3.04
8 62.8% bhatia (harappa) + 37.2% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 3.07
9 70.1% pathan (hgdp) + 29.9% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 3.14
10 71.7% pathan (hgdp) + 28.3% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 3.15
11 60.7% sindhi (harappa) + 39.3% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.19
12 62.5% sindhi (harappa) + 37.5% lezgin (behar) @ 3.27
13 68.2% kalash (hgdp) + 31.8% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.42
14 59% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 41% lezgin (behar) @ 3.44
15 53% punjabi-arain (xing) + 47% urkarah (xing) @ 3.5
16 64.7% bhatia (harappa) + 35.3% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 3.57
17 52.3% punjabi-arain (xing) + 47.7% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.71
18 60.7% bhatia (harappa) + 39.3% lezgin (behar) @ 3.77
19 54.3% punjabi-arain (xing) + 45.7% lezgin (behar) @ 3.88
20 79.6% pashtun (harappa) + 20.4% urkarah (xing) @ 4.01


I can even post my kitnumber to you through PM's.

Like seriously? You never thought afghans could get results like that? You though we be copies of tamils? No wonder why youre all up about this.

And I just doubt that N-morrocans can be much more euro shifted than that. Gedmatch does put you guys a lot closer to spanish(youre still extremly alien to them. Im almost slightly closer to mongolian descendant people and even closer to turkics in AFG than that sample is to spanish)

marco
01-16-2020, 01:06 PM
Target: Nomansman_scaled
Distance: 2.0815% / 0.02081500
40.2 Brahui+Balochi
28.6 North_Indian+Kalash
12.8 Caucasian
7.0 Yamnaya+Afanasievo+EHG
5.6 NW_European+Beakers
4.0 Sintashta+Srubnaya+Kangju
1.8 Finnish