My amateur analyses on morroccan affinity to south euros

[marco]

Ok, i can post my results now:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 36.7
2 Caucasian 24.54
3 S-Indian 14.69
4 NE-Euro 14.21
5 SW-Asian 3.79
6 Siberian 1.83
7 Mediterranean 1.62
8 Beringian 1.19
9 American 0.79
10 Papuan 0.64

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 pashtun (harappa) 7.4
2 kalash (hgdp) 11.54
3 tajik (yunusbayev) 12.01
4 pathan (hgdp) 12.4
5 sindhi (harappa) 15.65
6 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 16.23
7 burusho (hgdp) 16.87
8 bhatia (harappa) 16.9
9 turkmen (yunusbayev) 17.44
10 kashmiri (harappa) 17.64
11 haryana-jatt (harappa) 17.97
12 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 18.04
13 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 19.25
14 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 20.38
15 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 21.05
16 punjabi (harappa) 21.38
17 sindhi (hgdp) 21.77
18 balochi (hgdp) 21.79
19 punjabi-arain (xing) 21.79
20 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 22.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.1% pathan (hgdp) + 33.9% stalskoe (xing) @ 2.55
2 67.9% pathan (hgdp) + 32.1% lezgin (behar) @ 2.73
3 52.3% sindhi (hgdp) + 47.7% stalskoe (xing) @ 2.83
4 58.7% bhatia (harappa) + 41.3% stalskoe (xing) @ 2.86
5 53% sindhi (hgdp) + 47% urkarah (xing) @ 2.88
6 66.9% pathan (hgdp) + 33.1% urkarah (xing) @ 2.96
7 61.3% sindhi (harappa) + 38.7% urkarah (xing) @ 3.04
8 62.8% bhatia (harappa) + 37.2% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 3.07
9 70.1% pathan (hgdp) + 29.9% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 3.14
10 71.7% pathan (hgdp) + 28.3% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 3.15
11 60.7% sindhi (harappa) + 39.3% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.19
12 62.5% sindhi (harappa) + 37.5% lezgin (behar) @ 3.27
13 68.2% kalash (hgdp) + 31.8% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.42
14 59% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 41% lezgin (behar) @ 3.44
15 53% punjabi-arain (xing) + 47% urkarah (xing) @ 3.5
16 64.7% bhatia (harappa) + 35.3% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 3.57
17 52.3% punjabi-arain (xing) + 47.7% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.71
18 60.7% bhatia (harappa) + 39.3% lezgin (behar) @ 3.77
19 54.3% punjabi-arain (xing) + 45.7% lezgin (behar) @ 3.88
20 79.6% pashtun (harappa) + 20.4% urkarah (xing) @ 4.01


I can even post my kitnumber to you through PM's.

Like seriously? You never thought afghans could get results like that? You though we be copies of tamils? No wonder why youre all up about this.

And I just doubt that N-morrocans can be much more euro shifted than that. Gedmatch does put you guys a lot closer to spanish(youre still extremly alien to them. Im almost slightly closer to mongolian descendant people and even closer to turkics in AFG than that sample is to spanish)
Don’t use gedmatch bro it’s outdated G25 is better

[Nordarya]

6.8 percent Kenyan is normal considering Americans score an average score of that probably. Way to ignore the rest of the results that North Moroccan clearly shares a lot of dna with Southern Europeans. You are British don’t I don’t know why you are involved. You have nothing to do with this conversation you are basic You want to drag down Whites into your Groid filth, just to pretend you could pass?


Just to clarify anyone that’s not Southern European or Mediterranean doesn’t really have say in this debate go compare elsewhere
Your nigorant crapflooding of wannabe posts while putting down Aryan brethren of mine is hypocritical.

[marco]

Anyway I have to go nice speaking to you bye

[Nomansman]

Don’t use gedmatch bro it’s outdated G25 is better

I dont really. THis post was just to show that why morroccans can be that far from south euros and why afghans(and even some indians. They can actually get up to 21% NE-euro + 5% med even....but they would be most pure indo-aryans and would still at least get 24% SI) are almost as far. Gedmatch isnt too reliable, but come on. If you look at the admix results, you really can see why you guys are that far from spanish people. And even gedmatch modelling results can be pretty similiar to g25 many times, just slightly different.

I know you dont like the distance results, but your opinion doesnt change anythign(and again, yeah. Im not saying afghans are ANYWHERE near euros). N morrocans also just have a lot of admix thats too alien for spanish. I mean, why do you think you get your distance results so far from spanish people? You can even look out for many dna-papers, i bet none of them would say morroccans would be anywhere near euros from portugal or non-african admixed spanish. Its just normal, man. Berbers are just extremely far from south euros in general, despite their huge med admix(since you guys also have a lot of admix alien to spanish).

[Nomansman]

Don’t use gedmatch bro it’s outdated G25 is better

I dont really. THis post was just to show that why morroccans can be that far from south euros and why afghans(and even some indians. They can actually get up to 21% NE-euro + 5% med even....but they would be most pure indo-aryans and would still at least get 24% SI) are almost as far. Gedmatch isnt too reliable, but come on. If you look at the admix results, you really can see why you guys are that far from spanish people. And even gedmatch modelling results can be pretty similiar to g25 many times, just slightly different.

I know you dont like the distance results, but your opinion doesnt change anythign(and again, yeah. Im not saying afghans are ANYWHERE near euros). N morrocans also just have a lot of admix thats too alien for spanish. I mean, why do you think you get your distance results so far from spanish people? You can even look out for many dna-papers, i bet none of them would say morroccans would be anywhere near euros from portugal or non-african admixed spanish. Its just normal, man. Berbers are just extremely far from south euros in general, despite their huge med admix(since you guys also have a lot of admix alien to spanish).

[Nomansman]

You want to drag down Whites into your Groid filth, just to pretend you could pass?


Your nigorant crapflooding of wannabe posts while putting down Aryan brethren of mine is hypocritical.

Lol, i know youre kidding and all, but please stop

Afghans like me are also super alien to you guys. Even pamiris are as well

[Nomansman]

Anyway I have to go nice speaking to you bye

When, youre back, can you at least post the link of the program you used? I kind of wanna use it for myself

[Nordarya]

I dont really. THis post was just to show that why morroccans can be that far from south euros and why afghans(and even some indians. They can actually get up to 21% NE-euro + 5% med even....but they would be most pure indo-aryans and would still at least get 24% SI) are almost as far. Gedmatch isnt too reliable, but come on. If you look at the admix results, you really can see why you guys are that far from spanish people. And even gedmatch modelling results can be pretty similiar to g25 many times, just slightly different.

I know you dont like the distance results, but your opinion doesnt change anythign(and again, yeah. Im not saying afghans are ANYWHERE near euros). N morrocans also just have a lot of admix thats too alien for spanish. I mean, why do you think you get your distance results so far from spanish people? You can even look out for many dna-papers, i bet none of them would say morroccans would be anywhere near euros from portugal or non-african admixed spanish. Its just normal, man. Berbers are just extremely far from south euros in general, despite their huge med admix(since you guys also have a lot of admix alien to spanish).

Do you know who was Alexander the Great's wife? An Afghan woman. I'm also maternally Pashtun.

[Nomansman]

Do you know who was Alexander the Great's wife? An Afghan woman. I'm also maternally Pashtun.

Dude, its just indo-iranian haplogroup. We're probably connected by ancestry(but that goes REALLY REALLY FAR back. Even if i was a pamiri, we would still be distant asf, although i might had been somewhat more closer to you if you also were a russian, while im pamiri. But then again, we still be light years away from each other), but thats the case with millions of other people, including arabs and morroccans as well(morrocans might not be partly indo-european at all).

Appreciate your interest in indo-european connection, but its kind of silly tbh

[Samnium]

Anyway in conclusion north Moroccans share a lot of dna with Southern Europeans that’s all there is to it. Distances are an illusion

They are as close to SouthWestern people than they are to some Ethiopians groups, even. I'm talking about "coastal berbers" and northern moroccans/algerians etc.

Inland and south would be closer to Kenyans, Bantus,Yorubans than to a spaniard.

[Nomansman]

They are as close to SouthWestern people than they are to some Ethiopians groups, even. I'm talking about "coastal berbers" and northern moroccans/algerians etc.

Inland and south would be closer to Kenyans, Bantus,Yorubans than to a spaniard.

Not bantus or yurobans(i think kenyans as well). Thats exaggerating. Only mulattos would be that close. Let me get the g25 distances

[Samnium]

Not bantus or yurobans(i think kenyans as well). Thats exaggerating. Only mulattos would be that close. Let me get the g25 distances

No inland and southern berbers are very SSA shifted.

[Nomansman]

No inland and southern berbers are very SSA shifted.

Im probably not the one to decide who's more a pure berber and who isnt, but i dont think all south morroccans are mullattos. I i think most south morroccans are slightly more SSA shifted north morroccans(although there were some REALLY REALLY SSA shifted types in marakech and few in agadir) and hence why are closer to spaniards than to almost entirely SSA groups

[Nomansman]

No inland and southern berbers are very SSA shifted.


Distance to: Moroccan_South:MOU12
0.20395747 Spanish_Canarias
0.23211396 Spanish_Extremadura
0.23569561 Spanish_Andalucia
0.23579384 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.23675445 Spanish_Galicia
0.23707488 Spanish_Murcia
0.23993335 Spanish_Asturias
0.24356446 Spanish_Alacant
0.24455051 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.24510523 Spanish_Menorca
0.24512736 Spanish_Eivissa
0.24675984 Spanish_Cataluna
0.24684428 Spanish_Valencia
0.24743671 Spanish_Baleares
0.24873794 Spanish_Aragon
0.24992729 Spanish_Mallorca
0.25017284 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.25080236 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.25083217 Spanish_Pirineu
0.25099411 Spanish_Navarra
0.25173443 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.25174868 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.25178143 Spanish_Cantabria
0.25184784 Spanish_Castello
0.25327369 Spanish_Girona
0.25354684 Spanish_Lleida
0.25396413 Spanish_Penedes
0.25446211 Spanish_Barcelones
0.25581885 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.25726188 Spanish_Soria
0.26448610 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.42266858 Masai
0.57491140 Bantu_Kenya
0.59528419 Bantu_S.W.
0.60778665 Bantu_S.E.
0.60866970 Yoruba




Distance to: Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.17614139 Spanish_Canarias
0.20466827 Spanish_Extremadura
0.20826736 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20933548 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.20997258 Spanish_Galicia
0.21017588 Spanish_Murcia
0.21361687 Spanish_Asturias
0.21572947 Spanish_Alacant
0.21720528 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.21738704 Spanish_Eivissa
0.21797944 Spanish_Menorca
0.21994883 Spanish_Valencia
0.22019066 Spanish_Cataluna
0.22032629 Spanish_Baleares
0.22204145 Spanish_Aragon
0.22235423 Spanish_Mallorca
0.22345812 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.22384784 Spanish_Navarra
0.22421326 Spanish_Pirineu
0.22442035 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.22469941 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.22488404 Spanish_Castello
0.22490188 Spanish_Cantabria
0.22491903 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.22627010 Spanish_Girona
0.22670339 Spanish_Lleida
0.22717346 Spanish_Penedes
0.22756597 Spanish_Barcelones
0.22936098 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.23131762 Spanish_Soria
0.23855071 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.42584178 Masai
0.57720642 Bantu_Kenya
0.59640111 Bantu_S.W.
0.60906885 Yoruba
0.60910520 Bantu_S.E.




Distance to: Moroccan_South:MOU7
0.18782091 Masai
0.26421158 Bantu_Kenya
0.27341142 Bantu_S.W.
0.28138373 Yoruba
0.29488307 Bantu_S.E.
0.45768668 Spanish_Canarias
0.48317088 Spanish_Extremadura
0.48576404 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.48621419 Spanish_Andalucia
0.48674899 Spanish_Galicia
0.48731251 Spanish_Murcia
0.48937099 Spanish_Asturias
0.49201706 Spanish_Alacant
0.49413960 Spanish_Cataluna
0.49417714 Spanish_Eivissa
0.49437588 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.49446300 Spanish_Menorca
0.49494412 Spanish_Baleares
0.49636660 Spanish_Mallorca
0.49655465 Spanish_Valencia
0.49791899 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.49868640 Spanish_Aragon
0.49962158 Spanish_Barcelones
0.49965554 Spanish_Navarra
0.49992622 Spanish_Cantabria
0.50016172 Spanish_Castello
0.50027636 Spanish_Girona
0.50061776 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.50062803 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.50077643 Spanish_Penedes
0.50115980 Spanish_Pirineu
0.50171102 Spanish_Lleida
0.50322496 Spanish_Soria
0.50357457 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.50431603 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.51113372 Spanish_Pais_Vasco





Distance to: Moroccan_South:MOU20
0.20117663 Masai
0.27844920 Bantu_Kenya
0.29005123 Bantu_S.W.
0.29989009 Yoruba
0.31010543 Bantu_S.E.
0.44056237 Spanish_Canarias
0.46585097 Spanish_Extremadura
0.46874451 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.46909774 Spanish_Andalucia
0.46958881 Spanish_Galicia
0.47009445 Spanish_Murcia
0.47241996 Spanish_Asturias
0.47507422 Spanish_Alacant
0.47686698 Spanish_Cataluna
0.47738753 Spanish_Eivissa
0.47744319 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.47744530 Spanish_Menorca
0.47791868 Spanish_Baleares
0.47933200 Spanish_Mallorca
0.47937115 Spanish_Valencia
0.48037818 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.48157491 Spanish_Aragon
0.48263448 Spanish_Cantabria
0.48264345 Spanish_Barcelones
0.48268413 Spanish_Navarra
0.48294800 Spanish_Castello
0.48311623 Spanish_Girona
0.48332854 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.48349310 Spanish_Penedes
0.48369505 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.48378404 Spanish_Pirineu
0.48450009 Spanish_Lleida
0.48540435 Spanish_Soria
0.48591673 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.48689526 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.49439217 Spanish_Pais_Vasco







Distance to: Moroccan_South avg
0.28353253 Spanish_Canarias
0.30954928 Masai
0.31152118 Spanish_Extremadura
0.31480244 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.31501097 Spanish_Andalucia
0.31581549 Spanish_Galicia
0.31626364 Spanish_Murcia
0.31917992 Spanish_Asturias
0.32181973 Spanish_Alacant
0.32385695 Spanish_Eivissa
0.32389568 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.32417660 Spanish_Menorca
0.32481548 Spanish_Cataluna
0.32532821 Spanish_Baleares
0.32620661 Spanish_Valencia
0.32733171 Spanish_Mallorca
0.32842504 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.32842701 Spanish_Aragon
0.32989695 Spanish_Navarra
0.33045555 Spanish_Cantabria
0.33057542 Spanish_Castello
0.33081652 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.33082690 Spanish_Pirineu
0.33092496 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.33112378 Spanish_Girona
0.33150611 Spanish_Barcelones
0.33181717 Spanish_Penedes
0.33229238 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.33230152 Spanish_Lleida
0.33462362 Spanish_Soria
0.33483333 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.34318029 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.44839437 Bantu_Kenya
0.46555137 Bantu_S.W.
0.47690018 Yoruba
0.48056295 Bantu_S.E.



Ok, ill admit there are many south morrocan types being really SSA shifted, while many others are a lot more like north berbers.

But as whole theyre equally as close to both though.

[Nomansman]

Well, apparently algerian 270 and 200 are now the most euro leaning berbers in g25 spreadsheet:



Distance to: Algerian:ALG270
0.11194894 Spanish_Canarias:CAN924
0.11485032 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1
0.12171665 Spanish_Canarias:CAN13
0.12488893 Spanish_Canarias:CAN2
0.12641563 Spanish_Canarias:CAN10
0.13170825 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1220
0.13522159 Spanish_Canarias
0.13606472 Spanish_Canarias:HG01695
0.13697509 Spanish_Canarias:HG01694
0.13861201 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1920
0.13993440 Spanish_Canarias:CAN19
0.14067355 Spanish_Canarias:CAN11
0.14111457 Spanish_Canarias:CAN17
0.14238473 Spanish_Canarias:CAN956
0.14293043 Spanish_Canarias:CAN12
0.14485571 Spanish_Canarias:CAN4
0.14726836 Spanish_Canarias:CAN3
0.15275164 Spanish_Canarias:CAN18
0.15677262 Spanish_Canarias:CAN9
0.15753227 Spanish_Canarias:CAN884
0.16349843 Spanish_Extremadura
0.16723130 Spanish_Andalucia
0.16833330 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.16869283 Spanish_Galicia
0.16873476 Spanish_Murcia
0.17366495 Spanish_Asturias
0.17442201 Spanish_Alacant
0.17529409 Spanish_Eivissa
0.17575231 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.17589232 Spanish_Menorca
0.17744571 Spanish_Baleares
0.17885697 Spanish_Valencia
0.17887065 Spanish_Cataluna
0.17991098 Spanish_Mallorca
0.18086956 Spanish_Aragon
0.18190206 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.18250877 Spanish_Navarra
0.18287352 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.18298712 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.18332974 Spanish_Pirineu
0.18334389 Spanish_Cantabria
0.18336574 Spanish_Castello
0.18376967 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.18429950 Spanish_Girona
0.18505252 Spanish_Lleida
0.18531230 Spanish_Penedes
0.18554306 Spanish_Barcelones
0.18736302 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.19007598 Spanish_Soria
0.19785045 Spanish_Pais_Vasco





Distance to: Algerian:ALG200
0.09642930 Spanish_Canarias:CAN924
0.10377874 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1
0.10606799 Spanish_Canarias:CAN13
0.11233125 Spanish_Canarias:CAN2
0.11258091 Spanish_Canarias:CAN10
0.11937180 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1220
0.11950219 Spanish_Canarias
0.11978056 Spanish_Canarias:HG01695
0.12017024 Spanish_Canarias:HG01694
0.12174498 Spanish_Canarias:CAN19
0.12368310 Spanish_Canarias:CAN1920
0.12449069 Spanish_Canarias:CAN11
0.12519359 Spanish_Canarias:CAN956
0.12677282 Spanish_Canarias:CAN17
0.12744775 Spanish_Canarias:CAN12
0.12755100 Spanish_Canarias:CAN4
0.13193186 Spanish_Canarias:CAN3
0.13781642 Spanish_Canarias:CAN18
0.13842379 Spanish_Canarias:CAN9
0.14203763 Spanish_Canarias:CAN884
0.14709725 Spanish_Extremadura
0.15030845 Spanish_Andalucia
0.15191726 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.15214760 Spanish_Murcia
0.15277679 Spanish_Galicia
0.15657004 Spanish_Asturias
0.15828729 Spanish_Alacant
0.15879955 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.15880722 Spanish_Eivissa
0.15902582 Spanish_Menorca
0.16170289 Spanish_Baleares
0.16184206 Spanish_Valencia
0.16284067 Spanish_Cataluna
0.16408508 Spanish_Aragon
0.16443036 Spanish_Mallorca
0.16564785 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.16591148 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.16646521 Spanish_Navarra
0.16692969 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.16696394 Spanish_Pirineu
0.16724460 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.16745841 Spanish_Castello
0.16773793 Spanish_Cantabria
0.16810452 Spanish_Girona
0.16842595 Spanish_Lleida
0.16921288 Spanish_Penedes
0.17020955 Spanish_Barcelones
0.17147305 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.17547596 Spanish_Soria
0.18204363 Spanish_Pais_Vasco




Still not too close to canaria samples either, but slightly closer than all the other northern berbers

[Nordarya]

Dude, its just indo-iranian haplogroup. We're probably connected by ancestry(but that goes REALLY REALLY FAR back. Even if i was a pamiri, we would still be distant asf, although i might had been somewhat more closer to you if you also were a russian, while im pamiri. But then again, we still be light years away from each other), but thats the case with millions of other people, including arabs and morroccans as well(morrocans might not be partly indo-european at all).

Appreciate your interest in indo-european connection, but its kind of silly tbh

Here's the thing: you're also from the North West Frontier Province of the Raj. I count you as no different than other Indo-Europeans from Spain and Sicily who were also once under the Crown. It's not like you're a Jamaican Maroon. Say that you prefer Zoroaster or Buddha and I will go to bat for you 9/10.

[Nomansman]

Here's the thing: you're also from the North West Frontier Province of the Raj. I count you as no different than other Indo-Europeans from Spain and Sicily who were also once under the Crown. It's not like you're a Jamaican Maroon. Say that you prefer Zoroaster or Buddha and I will go to bat for you 9/10.

: /

[Avicenna]

Lol, i know youre kidding and all, but please stop

Afghans like me are also super alien to you guys. Even pamiris are as well

Tajik yaghnobis compared to a eastern euro population versus punjabi lahores ( they are South asian shifted) but part of their diversity

Distance to: Punjabi_Lahore
0.23284058 Tajik_Yagnobi

Distance to: Romanian
0.13772510 Tajik_Yagnobi

[Nomansman]

Tajik yaghnobis compared to a eastern euro population versus punjabi lahores ( they are South asian shifted) but part of their diversity

Distance to: Punjabi_Lahore
0.23284058 Tajik_Yagnobi

Distance to: Romanian
0.13772510 Tajik_Yagnobi

Try with jats. They should get yagnobis at 13 or 12

[Nordarya]

: /

If you're an R1a I-E speaker, we're already closer than either of us with R1b I-E speakers. Gotta start somewhere and why not the basics? Admixture changes every generation.

[Nomansman]

If you're an R1a I-E speaker, we're already closer than either of us with R1b I-E speakers. Gotta start somewhere and why not the basics? Admixture changes every generation.

Lol, dude

Youre funny :D

[Avicenna]

Try with jats. They should get yagnobis at 13 or 12

Distance to: Romanian
0.23223069 Punjabi_Jatt

Distance to: Tajik_Yagnobi
0.12598258 Punjabi_Jatt

Distance to: Punjabi_Lahore
0.11399444 Punjabi_Jatt

[Nomansman]

Distance to: Romanian
0.23223069 Punjabi_Jatt

Distance to: Tajik_Yagnobi
0.12598258 Punjabi_Jatt

Distance to: Punjabi_Lahore
0.11399444 Punjabi_Jatt

So basically yagnobis are somewhat inbetween balkanians and nw south asians.

And jats are significantly further from romanians than i am(get them at 19 on avg i assume, if not 18,5)

[Avicenna]

So basically yagnobis are somewhat inbetween balkanians and nw south asians.

And jats are significantly further from romanians than i am(get them at 19 on avg i assume, if not 18,5)

They are almost twice as close to romanians (eastern euro) than nw south asian.

[Nomansman]

They are almost twice as close to romanians (eastern euro) than nw south asian.

I dont think so tbh. If romanians get yagnobis at 13 and punjabi jats do that as well, the yagnobis should get both at the same distance vice versa

[Avicenna]

So basically yagnobis are somewhat inbetween balkanians and nw south asians.

And jats are significantly further from romanians than i am(get them at 19 on avg i assume, if not 18,5)

You get them at 18 yeah, you are also closer to Turks and Iranians than majority of south asians

Distance to: Iranian_Bandari
0.06534708 Nomansman_scaled

Distance to: Punjabi_Jatt
0.07818372 Nomansman_scaled

Distance to: Turkish_South
0.11322774 Nomansman_scaled


Distance to: Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh
0.15333087 Nomansman_scaled

[Avicenna]

I dont think so tbh. If romanians get yagnobis at 13 and punjabi jats do that as well, the yagnobis should get both at the same distance vice versa

What? Punjabi jatts get romanians at 23 bro

[Nomansman]

They are almost twice as close to romanians (eastern euro) than nw south asian.

didnt you mean that yagnobis are almost twice as close to romanians than punjabi jats?

[Nordarya]

Lol, dude

Youre funny :D

We'd have a Satem, Indic root in common. R1b are Centum, European. You're just blindsided by Mohammed vs Jesus, which is a huge sideshow.

[Chaos One]

So basically yagnobis are somewhat inbetween balkanians and nw south asians.

And jats are significantly further from romanians than i am(get them at 19 on avg i assume, if not 18,5)

Balkanian is a bit messy, because while the distance can be inbetween it's the same point about different numbers; they would approx in some (like Caucasian, any Nordic and East Euro) but get away with others (and at some point can get probably closer to Caucasian or Russian groups at same time).

Pamiris are a league on their own, as Shina and Burusho are.

[Avicenna]

didnt you mean that yagnobis are almost twice as close to romanians than punjabi jats?

My bad I thought you meant about romanians

You are right, although punjabi jats are quite western and northern shifted. Let's be honest, nw south Asia includes many groups such as rajputs, kashmiris, Middle castes, low castes etc punjabi jats, Rors and kambojas are the most western shifted of those groups and they still are quite far from south central asians.

[Adamastor]

Distance to: Moroccan_South:MOU12
0.20395747 Spanish_Canarias
0.23211396 Spanish_Extremadura
0.23569561 Spanish_Andalucia
0.23579384 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.23675445 Spanish_Galicia
0.23707488 Spanish_Murcia
0.23993335 Spanish_Asturias
0.24356446 Spanish_Alacant
0.24455051 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.24510523 Spanish_Menorca
0.24512736 Spanish_Eivissa
0.24675984 Spanish_Cataluna
0.24684428 Spanish_Valencia
0.24743671 Spanish_Baleares
0.24873794 Spanish_Aragon
0.24992729 Spanish_Mallorca
0.25017284 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.25080236 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.25083217 Spanish_Pirineu
0.25099411 Spanish_Navarra
0.25173443 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.25174868 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.25178143 Spanish_Cantabria
0.25184784 Spanish_Castello
0.25327369 Spanish_Girona
0.25354684 Spanish_Lleida
0.25396413 Spanish_Penedes
0.25446211 Spanish_Barcelones
0.25581885 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.25726188 Spanish_Soria
0.26448610 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.42266858 Masai
0.57491140 Bantu_Kenya
0.59528419 Bantu_S.W.
0.60778665 Bantu_S.E.
0.60866970 Yoruba




Distance to: Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.17614139 Spanish_Canarias
0.20466827 Spanish_Extremadura
0.20826736 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20933548 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.20997258 Spanish_Galicia
0.21017588 Spanish_Murcia
0.21361687 Spanish_Asturias
0.21572947 Spanish_Alacant
0.21720528 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.21738704 Spanish_Eivissa
0.21797944 Spanish_Menorca
0.21994883 Spanish_Valencia
0.22019066 Spanish_Cataluna
0.22032629 Spanish_Baleares
0.22204145 Spanish_Aragon
0.22235423 Spanish_Mallorca
0.22345812 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.22384784 Spanish_Navarra
0.22421326 Spanish_Pirineu
0.22442035 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.22469941 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.22488404 Spanish_Castello
0.22490188 Spanish_Cantabria
0.22491903 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.22627010 Spanish_Girona
0.22670339 Spanish_Lleida
0.22717346 Spanish_Penedes
0.22756597 Spanish_Barcelones
0.22936098 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.23131762 Spanish_Soria
0.23855071 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.42584178 Masai
0.57720642 Bantu_Kenya
0.59640111 Bantu_S.W.
0.60906885 Yoruba
0.60910520 Bantu_S.E.




Distance to: Moroccan_South:MOU7
0.18782091 Masai
0.26421158 Bantu_Kenya
0.27341142 Bantu_S.W.
0.28138373 Yoruba
0.29488307 Bantu_S.E.
0.45768668 Spanish_Canarias
0.48317088 Spanish_Extremadura
0.48576404 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.48621419 Spanish_Andalucia
0.48674899 Spanish_Galicia
0.48731251 Spanish_Murcia
0.48937099 Spanish_Asturias
0.49201706 Spanish_Alacant
0.49413960 Spanish_Cataluna
0.49417714 Spanish_Eivissa
0.49437588 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.49446300 Spanish_Menorca
0.49494412 Spanish_Baleares
0.49636660 Spanish_Mallorca
0.49655465 Spanish_Valencia
0.49791899 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.49868640 Spanish_Aragon
0.49962158 Spanish_Barcelones
0.49965554 Spanish_Navarra
0.49992622 Spanish_Cantabria
0.50016172 Spanish_Castello
0.50027636 Spanish_Girona
0.50061776 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.50062803 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.50077643 Spanish_Penedes
0.50115980 Spanish_Pirineu
0.50171102 Spanish_Lleida
0.50322496 Spanish_Soria
0.50357457 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.50431603 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.51113372 Spanish_Pais_Vasco





Distance to: Moroccan_South:MOU20
0.20117663 Masai
0.27844920 Bantu_Kenya
0.29005123 Bantu_S.W.
0.29989009 Yoruba
0.31010543 Bantu_S.E.
0.44056237 Spanish_Canarias
0.46585097 Spanish_Extremadura
0.46874451 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.46909774 Spanish_Andalucia
0.46958881 Spanish_Galicia
0.47009445 Spanish_Murcia
0.47241996 Spanish_Asturias
0.47507422 Spanish_Alacant
0.47686698 Spanish_Cataluna
0.47738753 Spanish_Eivissa
0.47744319 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.47744530 Spanish_Menorca
0.47791868 Spanish_Baleares
0.47933200 Spanish_Mallorca
0.47937115 Spanish_Valencia
0.48037818 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.48157491 Spanish_Aragon
0.48263448 Spanish_Cantabria
0.48264345 Spanish_Barcelones
0.48268413 Spanish_Navarra
0.48294800 Spanish_Castello
0.48311623 Spanish_Girona
0.48332854 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.48349310 Spanish_Penedes
0.48369505 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.48378404 Spanish_Pirineu
0.48450009 Spanish_Lleida
0.48540435 Spanish_Soria
0.48591673 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.48689526 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.49439217 Spanish_Pais_Vasco







Distance to: Moroccan_South avg
0.28353253 Spanish_Canarias
0.30954928 Masai
0.31152118 Spanish_Extremadura
0.31480244 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.31501097 Spanish_Andalucia
0.31581549 Spanish_Galicia
0.31626364 Spanish_Murcia
0.31917992 Spanish_Asturias
0.32181973 Spanish_Alacant
0.32385695 Spanish_Eivissa
0.32389568 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.32417660 Spanish_Menorca
0.32481548 Spanish_Cataluna
0.32532821 Spanish_Baleares
0.32620661 Spanish_Valencia
0.32733171 Spanish_Mallorca
0.32842504 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.32842701 Spanish_Aragon
0.32989695 Spanish_Navarra
0.33045555 Spanish_Cantabria
0.33057542 Spanish_Castello
0.33081652 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.33082690 Spanish_Pirineu
0.33092496 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.33112378 Spanish_Girona
0.33150611 Spanish_Barcelones
0.33181717 Spanish_Penedes
0.33229238 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.33230152 Spanish_Lleida
0.33462362 Spanish_Soria
0.33483333 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.34318029 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.44839437 Bantu_Kenya
0.46555137 Bantu_S.W.
0.47690018 Yoruba
0.48056295 Bantu_S.E.



Ok, ill admit there are many south morrocan types being really SSA shifted, while many others are a lot more like north berbers.

But as whole theyre equally as close to both though.

These Moroccans closer to SSAs must be at least 40% SSA to be that close; almost mulattoes. SSA populations are extremely far even for people in the 30s and 20s.

[Nomansman]

These Moroccans closer to SSAs must be at least 40% SSA to be that close; almost mulattoes. SSA populations are extremely far even for people in the 30s and 20s.

Yeah, true that(though masaiis/kenyans are partly caucasiod, like around 15%). Even somalis are not even close to bantus actually, so ethiopian/mulatto alike berbers are even further

[Nomansman]

My bad I thought you meant about romanians

You are right, although punjabi jats are quite western and northern shifted. Let's be honest, nw south Asia includes many groups such as rajputs, kashmiris, Middle castes, low castes etc punjabi jats, Rors and kambojas are the most western shifted of those groups and they still are quite far from south central asians.

Yeah, but still we're talking about avg nw south asians. Not all kind of nw south asians, which includes dalits. Then no wonder i be maybe even slightly closer to albanians or even romanians than to those dalits.

Kambojas to me kind of dont count, since they could easily had kept some of their ancestry from AFG(since kambojas descend from ancient kambojas originally from NE afghanistan, probably similiar to nuristanis back then and a mix between iranic and indo-aryan). Rors do kind of count, but theyre pretty atypical. I think on avg i will get avg nw south asians at distance of 7.2 at least.

[marco]

Picking out specific south Moroccans that are ssa shifted lol. The purest Berbers are in the south and don’t even score 2 percent ssa. North Moroccans score more ssa then those Berbers of the south I’ll actually show you representative results

[marco]

Target: Berber_MAR_TIZ:BerT8
Distance: 3.3796% / 0.03379566
50.0 Iberomaurusian
45.0 Barcin_N
2.8 Yoruba
1.4 WHG
0.8 Ganj_Dareh_N

That’s a south Moroccan Berber. South Moroccans ssa shifted LOL like I said cherry picking. Of course you will find ssa shifted people in south Morocco due to slavery but they’re a minority. This Berber is more pure then the gaunches his iberomaurusian is higher

[marco]

Berber mar tiz is Berbers from the south not Moroccan south lol

[Nordarya]

Why are you always trying to divide Mulatto-Blasian i.e. triracial Moroccans?



Picking out specific south Moroccans that are ssa shifted lol. The purest Berbers are in the south and don’t even score 2 percent ssa. North Moroccans score more ssa then those Berbers of the south I’ll actually show you representative results


Target: Berber_MAR_TIZ:BerT8
Distance: 3.3796% / 0.03379566
50.0 Iberomaurusian
45.0 Barcin_N
2.8 Yoruba
1.4 WHG
0.8 Ganj_Dareh_N

That’s a south Moroccan Berber. South Moroccans ssa shifted LOL like I said cherry picking. Of course you will find ssa shifted people in south Morocco due to slavery but they’re a minority. This Berber is more pure then the gaunches his iberomaurusian is higher

[Avicenna]

Yeah, but still we're talking about avg nw south asians. Not all kind of nw south asians, which includes dalits. Then no wonder i be maybe even slightly closer to albanians or even romanians than to those dalits.

Kambojas to me kind of dont count, since they could easily had kept some of their ancestry from AFG(since kambojas descend from ancient kambojas originally from NE afghanistan, probably similiar to nuristanis back then and a mix between iranic and indo-aryan). Rors do kind of count, but theyre pretty atypical. I think on avg i will get avg nw south asians at distance of 7.2 at least.

Yes, you are much closer to Albanians than alot of south asian groups. Actually, its only nw south asian high caste groups that you are closer to ( rors, jats, brahmins from Gujarat). Quite interesting. We don't even have Western Afghan results which woukd be even further away from them, but then again, northern/Eastern Pashtuns would be slightly closer( non kpk). I don't really count Uthmankhel, taraklani or yusefzai from swat since that region is very complex, and alot of them have pre pashtun local ancestry.

[Nomansman]

Target: Berber_MAR_TIZ:BerT8
Distance: 3.3796% / 0.03379566
50.0 Iberomaurusian
45.0 Barcin_N
2.8 Yoruba
1.4 WHG
0.8 Ganj_Dareh_N

That’s a south Moroccan Berber. South Moroccans ssa shifted LOL like I said cherry picking. Of course you will find ssa shifted people in south Morocco due to slavery but they’re a minority. This Berber is more pure then the gaunches his iberomaurusian is higher

I posted both most SSA shifted berbers and least SSA shifted berbers, so aka both types to show the euro guy there are those types of south morroccans

[Nomansman]

Yes, you are much closer to Albanians than alot of south asian groups. Actually, its only nw south asian high caste groups that you are closer to ( rors, jats, brahmins from Gujarat). Quite interesting. We don't even have Western Afghan results which woukd be even further away from them, but then again, northern/Eastern Pashtuns would be slightly closer( non kpk). I don't really count Uthmankhel, taraklani or yusefzai from swat since that region is very complex, and alot of them have pre pashtun local ancestry.

Dude, like nw south asians are still huge in numbers like punjabi jats. Like in millions. Just in smaler numbers compared to other indians. but still shitton of them if you include khatris, rors, jats, arians, tarkhans, etc

But all in all i would on avg get nw south asians at distance of 7,6. So yeah, i still wouldnt be too close to nw south asians. Im however far closer to them than albanians.

And tbh, gedmatch modelling can be pretty similar to g25 modelling, although the components might not be the case.

I have right now 9 herati gedmatch results. SOme of them just look like regular afg tajiks, while others can get modelled inbetween me and mazandranis, while the same sample probably can get modelled as 1/4 me and rest east iranians. SOme herati sample is even more west asian shifted.

[Avicenna]

Dude, like nw south asians are still huge in numbers like punjabi jats. Like in millions. Just in smaler numbers compared to other indians. but still shitton of them if you include khatris, rors, jats, arians, tarkhans, etc

But all in all i would on avg get nw south asians at distance of 7,6. So yeah, i still wouldnt be too close to nw south asians. Im however far closer to them than albanians.

And tbh, gedmatch modelling can be pretty similar to g25 modelling, although the components might not be the case.

I have right now 9 herati gedmatch results. SOme of them just look like regular afg tajiks, while others can get modelled inbetween me and mazandranis, while the same sample probably can get modelled as 1/4 me and rest east iranians. SOme herati sample is even more west asian shifted.

Yeah but you have to remember the vast majority of nw south asia isn't high caste. Most are just farmer caste, dalits etc.

Damn that's pretty western shifted.

[marco]

I posted both most SSA shifted berbers and least SSA shifted berbers, so aka both types to show the euro guy there are those types of south morroccans
No you didn’t I just showed you results from a south Moroccan Berber they score less ssa then north Moroccans it’s. Non existent 1 or 2 percent at the most. That sample I posted is the purest I’ve seen

[Nomansman]

No you didn’t I just showed you results from a south Moroccan Berber they score less ssa then north Moroccans it’s. Non existent 1 or 2 percent at the most. That sample I posted is the purest I’ve seen



What were their label numbers? Like What number were they? I intentionally wanted to pick up least ssa Moroccans as well, but I probably made a mistake. What were their label names?

[FilhoV]

My closest Iberian population is Canárias

https://imgur.com/a/xW5212b

[Nomansman]

My closest Iberian population is Canárias
https://imgur.com/a/KeozhXI

Yeah, your distance to them is 2.5. You must be almost identical to the avg canaria spanish

[MrKemel]

Look at results of people with 1/8 of SSA ancestry and the rest European, they are always very far from mainstream European cluster in most calculators. Most are at 14-18 of distance from their first population.

Not so far, only about 9-10 of distance (scaled) from their first population (distance between South Italians and Finns are about 18!). Look at this person with 7/8 North European and 1/8 SSA, she is still closer to North Europeans than North Italians are for example :

NorthEuropean_1/8SSA,0.038432425,0.120071025,0.065821788,0.0513594 75,0.035851575,0.020314713,0.000626425,0.014105263 ,-0.001815225,-0.001674538,-0.003624363,0.001422675,-0.001187613,-0.003235625,0.014690663,0.002312813,-0.005444513,0.001808675,0.003800988,0.0038938,0.00 6386475,0.002283313,0.000766138,0.009269663,-0.000906288

(scaled) Distance to: Swedish
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0.09559631 Portuguese
0.09604721 Spanish_Murcia
0.09611939 Spanish_Andalucia
0.09689614 Spanish_Extremadura
0.09713674 NorthEuropean_1/8SSA
0.09841406 Italian_Bergamo
0.10012263 Swiss_Italian
0.10034227 Italian_Liguria
0.10255130 Italian_Lombardy
0.10358469 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.10390061 Italian_Piedmont
0.10416893 Turkish_Balkans
0.10811107 Tatar_Mishar
0.11074572 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.11191526 Albanian