Serbian Autosomal DNA

[Ion Basescul]

Me as a foreigner reading the last couple of pages

https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/c60.0.1121.1121a/s640x640/75306176_142276527181218_6929146803374276313_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=106&_nc_ohc=NP3ZcwLJPIAAX_32a1v&oh=978fb1563c5e49022daa142b31502fbf&oe=5F606B18

[Dušan]

Insuperable is a Serb. Please don't be so viciously xenophobic towards one of you. You should embrace him.

It is obvious how Croats from Croatia despise Bosnian-Herzegovinian Croats.
We will accept them only as soon as they baptize in Serbian Orthodox Church, and sincerly repent for sins of their ancestors in WW2.

[Varda]

Je ti si bas dobronamjeran cika sta se brine za sudbinu BiH Hrvata. Dobro te znamo Pribi, ti si cetnik ka i svi tvoji i nisi nikad to skriva.

To je vaša stvar i mene se ne tiče, samo sam zapazio takve tendencije kod Hrvata. Ima više godina slučajno sam stupio u kontakt preko neta sa nekim Hrvatom iz Županje. Prvo smo se pljuvali i pičkarali a nakon nekog vremena smo počeli da pričamo normalnije kao ti i ja ponekad, onda je on počeo da pljuje bosanske i hercegovačke Hrvate. Za ove druge je govorio hercegovački "Turko-Cigani", da haraju po Hrvatskoj itd. Ali kaže kao da se zarati u BiH da bi išao da ih brani, jer eto iako su kulturološki inferiorni ipak su njegov narod. Lik kaže da je Šokac sa rodoslovom u Županji od preko 300 godina.

[Jana]

It is obvious how Croats from Croatia despise Bosnian-Herzegovinian Croats.
We will accept them only as soon as he baptize in Serbian Orthodox Church, and sincerly repent for sins of their ancestors in WW2.

Fair enough.

[Insuperable]

Tko je tebi išta prebaciva za tvoju kulturu? Ti to radiš.
Ne, ja ne radim to nego volim HR i ne lizem dupe Srbima kojih nas ogroman dio patološki mrzi.

Ti si ološ, izdajica skoro u rangu onog posrbljenog jadnika Voighta iz Slavonije, kojega thumb upaju Rununjski četnici koji bi mas najradije zatrli da mogu i stalno šire lazi o HR.

Ti si jad i treba te nogom u dupe.

Mrs u Srbbiju cetnicnki provokatore. I onda prodaj svoje bolesne cetnicke price o dubokim ugraviranostima toga i toga.

Jesi mutava posro te. Kad nemaš ništa pametnije reći...
Voight je rekao da je Srbin iz Slavonije sa nekim dalekim hrvatskim porijeklom iz 18. ili nekoga stoljeća.
Reče žena koja puši mađarski kurac u nadi da se popne na ljestvici.

Da sutradan hr postane kurac od države ti bi je odjebala i pribjegavala bi nekoj drugoj. To je ta tvoja ljubav. Ja sam Zapad ja sam kulturna kme.


Ne tako davno si lizao dupe sjevernim Europljanima i saginjao se pred njima. Haha, bljak.
Je li tvoja servilnost balkanski obicaj? Jos jedan dokaz vise za distancirati se od orjunasa ka sta si ti.

Još niši skužila što je trolanje, a servilnost je hrvatski običaj, od stoljeća 10og. Još ostao ugraviran. Nacija koja je još podijeljena od raspale države od prije 30 godina i tako unazad 1000 godina.

[Jana]

To je vaša stvar i mene se ne tiče, samo sam zapazio takve tendencije kod Hrvata. Ima više godina slučajno sam stupio u kontakt preko neta sa nekim Hrvatom iz Županje. Prvo smo se pljuvali i pičkarali a nakon nekog vremena smo počeli da pričamo normalnije kao ti i ja ponekad, onda je on počeo da pluje bosanske i hercegovačke Hrvate. Za ove druge je govorio hercegovački "Turko-Cigani", da haraju po Hrvatskoj itd. Ali kaže kao da se zarati u BiH da bi išao da ih brani, jer eto iako su kulturološki inferiorni ipak su njegov narod. Lik kaže da je Šokac sa rodoslovom u Županji od preko 300 godina.

Šokci su iz Bosne (tuzlanski i srebrenicki kraj uglavnom) kao sto su i Srbi Vojvođani starosjedioci iz Raške i sa Kosova ali su obje grupe dovoljno dugo tamo da su kulturno postali Panonci.

Panonska i dinarska kultura su jako razlicite, svaka lijepa na svoj nacin.

[Insuperable]

To je vaša stvar i mene se ne tiče, samo sam zapazio takve tendencije kod Hrvata. Ima više godina slučajno sam stupio u kontakt preko neta sa nekim Hrvatom iz Županje. Prvo smo se pljuvali i pičkarali a nakon nekog vremena smo počeli da pričamo normalnije kao ti i ja ponekad, onda je on počeo da pluje bosanske i hercegovačke Hrvate. Za ove druge je govorio hercegovački "Turko-Cigani", da haraju po Hrvatskoj itd. Ali kaže kao da se zarati u BiH da bi išao da ih brani, jer eto iako su kulturološki inferiorni ipak su njegov narod. Lik kaže da je Šokac sa rodoslovom u Županji od preko 300 godina.

Ako ikad zarati u BiH (nadam se nikad među kršćanima) Hrvati iz Hr trebaju odjebati što dalje od nas. Njihovo miješanje u našu politiku nikada nije donijelo ništa dobro, poglavito zbog njihove podijeljenosti. Tek su se nešto jadike počeli uključivati zadnjih godina. A svoje greške pokušavaju nadomiriti donacijama. Cigani su oni meni.

[Jana]

Sto prije prijeđeš među Srbe, tim bolje. Dušan ti je lipo reka što trebaš napraviti.

[knez01]

Jeben ti jarca zbog čega se vi karate.

[vbnetkhio]

Here is 101838

His surname is Gajić.
It's written herz.Rs (Rs means Republika Srpska).

this surname is connected with Mačva and Kolubara regions. he matches one person from here too.

the other most Slavic Serb is also from there.

[Varda]

this surname is connected with Mačva and Kolubara regions. he matches one person from here too.

the other most Slavic Serb is also from there.

I showed these two Gajić results to one guy from Eupedia forum 101904 101905 and he said: "Ti Gajići su svi braća i sestre vidi se."

According to my information this is Serb from Ljubinje (Herzegovina) and his surname is Tica 101906

[vbnetkhio]

I showed these two Gajić results to one guy from Eupedia forum 101904 101905 and he said: "Ti Gajići su svi braća i sestre vidi se."

According to my information this is Serb from Ljubinje (Herzegovina) and his surname is Tica 101906

Milojko and Milojka are Nikola's parents. they match each other at "1 generation" which is a parent/child relationship, not sibling.

[Varda]

It is obvious how Croats from Croatia despise Bosnian-Herzegovinian Croats.
We will accept them only as soon as they baptize in Serbian Orthodox Church, and sincerly repent for sins of their ancestors in WW2.

True story which shows brutality of the extremination of Serbs in Livno field in WW2 by Croatians (countrymen of Insuperable) 4:26 - 6:48 https://youtu.be/bFAlD62jIJQ?t=266

[Ljubic]

These days on the Serbian forum Croatian user said how western Serbs (Serbs from Croatia and BiH) and Montenegrins occupy important functions in Serbia, and it's not clear to him how native Serbs from Serbia allow that. He also said who a lot of Croats from BiH live in Croatia, 1 000 000 Croatians in Croatia originated from BiH, but still there was no president or prime minister ever in Croatia with origin from BiH. Only a few mayors originated from BiH.
Serbian user said to him that Serbs are not so selfish and zatucani as Croats, and for Serbs it's not important from where are their presidents and prime ministers.

Mišomor1 (Croat from Dalmatia) and GeorgeV (Serb) https://forum.krstarica.com/threads/republika-srpska-zapadni-srbi.911161/page-3#post-40749141

Zoran Milanovic - president of Croatia - has parents from Livno. Lying again I see.

[Varda]

Zoran Milanovic - president of Croatia - has parents from Livno. Lying again I see.

Wrong, his father is from Glavice near Sinj and his mother is from Senj https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoran_Milanovi%C4%87#Raniji_%C5%BEivot

I have nothing to do with presence of Croatians on Serbian forum. Mišomor is Croatian.

[Jana]

Wrong, his father is from Glavice near Sinj and his mother is from Senjhttps://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoran_Milanovi%C4%87#Raniji_%C5%BEivot

I have nothing to do with presence of Croatians on Serbian forum. Mišomor is Croatian.

His deeper origin is indeed from Bosnia, I heard it's from Rama. Which is close to Livno anyway.

[Dušan]

This is thread about Serbian autosomal genetics.

Please, open new thread about Croatian regional differences and animosities, complexes etc.

[Varda]

Serb from East Bosnia 102063

[vbnetkhio]

Serb from East Bosnia 102063

all 4 grandparents from there? or just by surname?

[Varda]

all 4 grandparents from there? or just by surname?

I have only information that he is from East Bosnia and his surname is Milić.

Moje ime is partly from East Bosnia, and she score higher NA and lower Baltic than Serbian average.

[Dušan]

Serb from East Bosnia 102063

He fit good to that wierd old our average.

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.53
2 Romanian 6.57
3 Hungarian 7.93
4 Moldavian 9.05
5 Bulgarian 9.51
6 Austrian 9.76
7 Croatian 10.5
8 East_German 11.72
9 West_German 13.79
10 French 14.76
11 South_Dutch 15.12
12 North_Italian 15.93
13 Greek_Thessaly 16.58
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.71
15 South_Polish 16.88
16 Portuguese 17.91
17 Ukrainian 18.03
18 Spanish_Galicia 18.08
19 Tuscan 18.22
20 Spanish_Cataluna 18.81

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.9% Tuscan + 40.1% Estonian @ 2.13
2 83.8% Serbian + 16.2% French @ 2.13
3 88.5% Serbian + 11.5% Southwest_French @ 2.18
4 92.5% Serbian + 7.5% French_Basque @ 2.2
5 88.7% Serbian + 11.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.28
6 84.8% Serbian + 15.2% South_Dutch @ 2.31
7 87% Serbian + 13% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.31
8 90.1% Serbian + 9.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.35
9 52% South_Polish + 48% Tuscan @ 2.36
10 88.1% Serbian + 11.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.37
11 59.2% Tuscan + 40.8% Finnish @ 2.39
12 89.2% Serbian + 10.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.41
13 87.9% Serbian + 12.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.42
14 87.5% Serbian + 12.5% Portuguese @ 2.46
15 89.9% Serbian + 10.1% Southwest_English @ 2.46
16 88.8% Serbian + 11.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.47
17 84.4% Serbian + 15.6% West_German @ 2.49
18 88.6% Serbian + 11.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.52
19 89.2% Serbian + 10.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.55
20 90% Serbian + 10% Orcadian @ 2.55

[Dušan]

His K36

https://i.imgur.com/gROwzKi.png

[Varda]

Vukašin Mitić 102078

Slobodan Mitić 102079

^^
First one is 3.13% "mongoloid", and second one is 2.84% "mongoloid." :)

[Dušan]

Two Serbs from Glina (Croatia).

Vukašin Mitić 102078

Slobodan Mitić 102079

^^
First one is 3.13% "mongoloid", and second one is 2.84% "mongoloid." :)

First:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.47
2 Moldavian 6.97
3 Romanian 7.89
4 Bulgarian 9.02
5 Croatian 9.17
6 Hungarian 11.16
7 Austrian 14.86
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.93
9 East_German 15.72
10 Ukrainian 15.94
11 South_Polish 16.05
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.88
13 Southwest_Russian 19.06
14 Polish 19.28
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.69
16 North_Italian 20.34
17 West_German 20.78
18 Russian_Smolensk 21.03
19 Estonian_Polish 21.2
20 Tuscan 21.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.8% Ukrainian + 32.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.6
2 51.5% Ukrainian + 48.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.77
3 55.9% Greek_Thessaly + 44.1% Estonian_Polish @ 3.89
4 52.7% Tuscan + 47.3% Erzya @ 4.08
5 68.1% Ukrainian + 31.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.09
6 64.5% Ukrainian + 35.5% South_Italian @ 4.12
7 61.6% Ukrainian + 38.4% East_Sicilian @ 4.13
8 69.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 30.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.16
9 61% Greek_Thessaly + 39% Estonian @ 4.16
10 53.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 46.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.22
11 61.5% Greek_Thessaly + 38.5% Lithuanian @ 4.22
12 61.2% Ukrainian + 38.8% West_Sicilian @ 4.23
13 80% Croatian + 20% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.28
14 53.8% Estonian_Polish + 46.2% West_Sicilian @ 4.28
15 62.5% Ukrainian + 37.5% Ashkenazi @ 4.3
16 60.6% Ukrainian + 39.4% Central_Greek @ 4.31
17 57.4% Estonian_Polish + 42.6% South_Italian @ 4.32
18 56.9% Greek_Thessaly + 43.1% Belorussian @ 4.33
19 57.6% Greek_Thessaly + 42.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.38
20 55.8% Greek_Thessaly + 44.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.42




Second:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.24
2 Croatian 6.19
3 Serbian 6.53
4 Hungarian 7.79
5 Romanian 9.61
6 Bulgarian 11.36
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.78
8 South_Polish 12.25
9 Austrian 12.48
10 Ukrainian 12.64
11 East_German 13.09
12 Southwest_Russian 15.45
13 Polish 15.75
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.07
15 Russian_Smolensk 17.55
16 Estonian_Polish 17.78
17 Belorussian 18.28
18 West_German 19.18
19 Kargopol_Russian 19.55
20 Greek_Thessaly 19.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.8% Greek_Thessaly + 47.2% Estonian @ 2.31
2 74.3% Ukrainian + 25.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.35
3 66.6% Bulgarian + 33.4% Estonian @ 2.36
4 69.7% Ukrainian + 30.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.41
5 61.2% Southwest_Russian + 38.8% Tuscan @ 2.46
6 70.4% South_Polish + 29.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.49
7 62% Bulgarian + 38% Belorussian @ 2.56
8 52.2% Belorussian + 47.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.59
9 64.3% Southwest_Russian + 35.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.59
10 58.5% Estonian + 41.5% South_Italian @ 2.68
11 54.9% Estonian + 45.1% Central_Greek @ 2.69
12 63.3% Belorussian + 36.7% South_Italian @ 2.7
13 74.5% Ukrainian + 25.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.71
14 66.2% Romanian + 33.8% Belorussian @ 2.72
15 61.4% Bulgarian + 38.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.74
16 65.6% Romanian + 34.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.75
17 61% Estonian_Polish + 39% West_Sicilian @ 2.75
18 66.6% Bulgarian + 33.4% Finnish @ 2.78
19 67.6% Bulgarian + 32.4% East_Finnish @ 2.81
20 60.3% Belorussian + 39.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.83

[Leto]

The latter could be an East Slav with a Jewish grandparent.

Population
Gedrosia 3.24 Pct
Siberian 1.44 Pct
Northwest_African 1.23 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 26.87 Pct
North_European 37.93 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.91 Pct
East_Asian 0.58 Pct
Caucasus 22.80 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Population
Gedrosia 4.67 Pct
Siberian 1.15 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 25.84 Pct
North_European 41.83 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.68 Pct
East_Asian 0.76 Pct
Caucasus 20.07 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

They are about 2 percent EE according to the calculator I normally use for this kind of purposes.

[Varda]

First:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.47
2 Moldavian 6.97
3 Romanian 7.89
4 Bulgarian 9.02
5 Croatian 9.17
6 Hungarian 11.16
7 Austrian 14.86
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.93
9 East_German 15.72
10 Ukrainian 15.94
11 South_Polish 16.05
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.88
13 Southwest_Russian 19.06
14 Polish 19.28
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.69
16 North_Italian 20.34
17 West_German 20.78
18 Russian_Smolensk 21.03
19 Estonian_Polish 21.2
20 Tuscan 21.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.8% Ukrainian + 32.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.6
2 51.5% Ukrainian + 48.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.77
3 55.9% Greek_Thessaly + 44.1% Estonian_Polish @ 3.89
4 52.7% Tuscan + 47.3% Erzya @ 4.08
5 68.1% Ukrainian + 31.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.09
6 64.5% Ukrainian + 35.5% South_Italian @ 4.12
7 61.6% Ukrainian + 38.4% East_Sicilian @ 4.13
8 69.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 30.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.16
9 61% Greek_Thessaly + 39% Estonian @ 4.16
10 53.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 46.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.22
11 61.5% Greek_Thessaly + 38.5% Lithuanian @ 4.22
12 61.2% Ukrainian + 38.8% West_Sicilian @ 4.23
13 80% Croatian + 20% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.28
14 53.8% Estonian_Polish + 46.2% West_Sicilian @ 4.28
15 62.5% Ukrainian + 37.5% Ashkenazi @ 4.3
16 60.6% Ukrainian + 39.4% Central_Greek @ 4.31
17 57.4% Estonian_Polish + 42.6% South_Italian @ 4.32
18 56.9% Greek_Thessaly + 43.1% Belorussian @ 4.33
19 57.6% Greek_Thessaly + 42.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.38
20 55.8% Greek_Thessaly + 44.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.42




Second:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.24
2 Croatian 6.19
3 Serbian 6.53
4 Hungarian 7.79
5 Romanian 9.61
6 Bulgarian 11.36
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.78
8 South_Polish 12.25
9 Austrian 12.48
10 Ukrainian 12.64
11 East_German 13.09
12 Southwest_Russian 15.45
13 Polish 15.75
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.07
15 Russian_Smolensk 17.55
16 Estonian_Polish 17.78
17 Belorussian 18.28
18 West_German 19.18
19 Kargopol_Russian 19.55
20 Greek_Thessaly 19.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.8% Greek_Thessaly + 47.2% Estonian @ 2.31
2 74.3% Ukrainian + 25.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.35
3 66.6% Bulgarian + 33.4% Estonian @ 2.36
4 69.7% Ukrainian + 30.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.41
5 61.2% Southwest_Russian + 38.8% Tuscan @ 2.46
6 70.4% South_Polish + 29.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.49
7 62% Bulgarian + 38% Belorussian @ 2.56
8 52.2% Belorussian + 47.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.59
9 64.3% Southwest_Russian + 35.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.59
10 58.5% Estonian + 41.5% South_Italian @ 2.68
11 54.9% Estonian + 45.1% Central_Greek @ 2.69
12 63.3% Belorussian + 36.7% South_Italian @ 2.7
13 74.5% Ukrainian + 25.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.71
14 66.2% Romanian + 33.8% Belorussian @ 2.72
15 61.4% Bulgarian + 38.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.74
16 65.6% Romanian + 34.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.75
17 61% Estonian_Polish + 39% West_Sicilian @ 2.75
18 66.6% Bulgarian + 33.4% Finnish @ 2.78
19 67.6% Bulgarian + 32.4% East_Finnish @ 2.81
20 60.3% Belorussian + 39.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.83

Slobodan is similar as you. Main difference is his higher NA.

[Dušan]

Slobodan is similar as you. Main difference is his higher NA.

Until recently I did not know for existence of surname Mitić on Banija. I thouhgt it's limited only on southern and eastern Serbia, but I was wrong. Under M https://banija.rs/obicaji/16171-imena-i-prezimena-banijskih-srba-3.html

Yes, we have similar Baltic score.
But proportion of West Med and East Med are different - he has higher East Med and lower West Med than me.

[CommonSense]

Two Serbs from Glina (Croatia).

Vukašin Mitić 102078

Slobodan Mitić 102079

^^
First one is 3.13% "mongoloid", and second one is 2.84% "mongoloid." :)

Slobodan is that guy from Bela Palanka and Kusadak and Vukašin is his son from a Montenegrin (Serb) mother. We've posted these results before :picard1:

[CommonSense]

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[Varda]

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[Vožd]

Zato jer velik dio Hrvata ne pripada u Balkan niti želi tamo pripadati - u svijet stran kulturno i povijesno odakle dolaze samo ugroze i zlo.
Većina Srba jesu Balkanci. No autohtoni Vojvođani nisu niti im se mili gurati ih tamo (tipa Vožd), što ne znači da nisu ponosni Srbi. Srpski nacionalizam dobrim dijelom izvire od tih autohtonih Vojvođana.

Stvar je u tome što je Vojvodina danas većinski naseljena balkanskim Srbima pridošlicama tipa Dušan kojima naravno paše da se cijela Srbija strpa u Balkan. Voždu baš to i ne paše, a nije ništa manji Srbin od Dušana.
Jasno je zašto. Drugačija kultura. Zato Vožd nema ništa protiv Vojvođanskih Hrvata a dođoš Dušan bi ih sve istjerao da može. Jeli ti jasno sada?

Još jedna stvar - Srbija je ipak pravoslavna zemlja sa bizantskim nasljeđem kojim se ponosi - a to ju vezuje za Balkan. Nije ni Grčka zapadna Europa već Balkansko-Mediteranska zemlja i svi pravoslavci naginju njoj.

Mi smo katolici koji su uvijek gledali na zapad i primali kulturne utjecaje od tamo - i to se ne može promijeniti.
Izuzev Slovenije nitko drugi na "Balkanu" ne spada u zapadno krsćanski kulturni krug, pa nije ni čudo da se velikom broju Hrvata ne čini da bi se trebali gurati tamo. Nije nam taj Balkan donio ama baš ništa dobroga.

Tema je srpska DNA, tako da ne želim više offtopičariti i idem nanati. Ciao.



I je li Vožd Dušanu išta prebaciva vezano za njegovu 'kulturu'? Ili on to ne radi jer su eto većina Srba Balkanci? Pa se opet vraćamo na isto.

Mi smo ovo, mi smo ono.:rolleyes: Znaš li razmišljati osim u diskretnim intervalima ili misliš da ti se sve mora nametnuti? Tvoj život se svodi što će neki stranac misliti o Hrvatskoj, a time i o tebi.

Povijest Hrvata je povijest podijeljenosti i kompleksaša. To je jednostavno duboko ugravirano vidljivo po takvima kao ti.

Ne mogu reći da sam "autohton Vojvođanin", ali svakako jesam vezan za region Srema. Vojvodina geografski nije Balkan, a kulturno Balkan ionako ne postoji. Nemam balkanski identitet (Balkan mi ništa ne znači u identitetskom smislu) ali mi ne smeta ako ga drugi Srbi imaju, ionako je to glupost koja se na kraju svodi na "zajedničke" stvari koje inače postoje širom Evroazije a mnoge od njih i šire (šta to Srbi npr. imaju sa Albancima Toskima a nemaju sa Moldavcima? biće da su nam Moldavci čak sličniji iako su istočno-evropski narod itd.). A danas se Balkan izjednačava sa turbo-folkom, trap-om i slično, sebe ne vidim tu nikako.

Nemam nikakve predrasude prema Srbima iz drugih regija, čak onu lokalnu kulturu dinarskih Srba smatram "srpskijom" jer je pod manjim uticajem stranih kultura.

[Leto]

Serb from East Bosnia 102063
Also a bit of East Eurasian in there

Population
Gedrosia 3.76 Pct
Siberian 1.38 Pct
Northwest_African 0.77 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 27.40 Pct
North_European 39.15 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 6.22 Pct
East_Asian 0.18 Pct
Caucasus 21.14 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[CommonSense]

A Serb from Banija:

https://i.ibb.co/wYCJn0k/unknown.png



Kit QG1151988

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.25
2 North_Atlantic 25.71
3 West_Med 16.85
4 East_Med 15.81
5 West_Asian 8.84
6 Red_Sea 1.71
7 Siberian 0.67
8 Oceanian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.21
2 Romanian 6.03
3 Moldavian 6.16
4 Bulgarian 8.01
5 Croatian 8.08
6 Hungarian 8.67
7 Austrian 12.19
8 East_German 13.46
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.61
10 South_Polish 15.11
11 Ukrainian 15.71
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.62
13 West_German 18
14 Polish 18.71
15 Southwest_Russian 19
16 North_Italian 19.22
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.34
18 South_Dutch 19.46
19 French 19.58
20 Tuscan 20.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.4% South_Polish + 47.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.82
2 65.9% Bulgarian + 34.1% South_Polish @ 2.01
3 78.9% Romanian + 21.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.1
4 50.2% Bulgarian + 49.8% Croatian @ 2.11
5 73.4% Romanian + 26.6% Ukrainian @ 2.11
6 79.3% Romanian + 20.7% Belorussian @ 2.12
7 51.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 48.4% Tuscan @ 2.14
8 58% Romanian + 42% Croatian @ 2.14
9 65.1% South_Polish + 34.9% South_Italian @ 2.15
10 82.3% Romanian + 17.7% Lithuanian @ 2.17
11 80.9% Croatian + 19.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.18
12 67.9% Croatian + 32.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.19
13 76.8% Romanian + 23.2% Polish @ 2.19
14 70.7% Bulgarian + 29.3% Polish @ 2.2
15 60.7% Ukrainian + 39.3% West_Sicilian @ 2.21
16 52.1% Southwest_Russian + 47.9% Tuscan @ 2.23
17 72.7% Romanian + 27.3% South_Polish @ 2.23
18 61.2% South_Polish + 38.8% Central_Greek @ 2.24
19 78.2% Croatian + 21.8% South_Italian @ 2.27
20 78.7% Romanian + 21.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.28




Vahaduo K13 updated:



Banija_Serb,25.71,30.25,16.85,8.84,15.81,1.71,0.00 ,0.00,0.67,0.00,0.15,0.00,0.00

Distance to: Banija_Serb
1.53967529 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
1.62828130 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
1.66625328 Serb
1.70683918 Serb_Croatia
1.77741385 Serb_Serbia
1.82488356 Serb_Croatia_Lika
1.97489240 Serb_B&H
1.99954995 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
2.22285852 Bosniak
2.25137736 Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
2.48374717 Romania_Maramures
2.70590096 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
2.72257231 Serb_B&H_Krajina
2.73473948 Romania_Moldavia_North
2.82699487 Romania_Moldavia_average
2.83672346 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
3.18264041 Moldova_average
3.21648877 Romania_Crisana
3.22364700 Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
3.48585714 Croat_B&H
3.50648580 Bosniak_Sarajevo
3.66614239 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
3.74657177 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
3.97620422 Serb_Serbia_South&East
4.06345912 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner



Now, before you go, wait a moment a take a look at this ''infamous thread'' once more:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?277615-Krajina-Serb-(from-Banija)-results

Specifically I want you to check the Eurogenes K13 values and the digits they end in. Also take a look at the name of the email under which the kit I posted is registered :)

[Jana]

I don't understand...why do you want to say?

[vbnetkhio]

I don't understand...why do you want to say?

just compare these k13 results with those in the thread CommonSense linked

[Jana]

just compare these k13 results with those in the thread CommonSense linked

HungryLion changed the components didn't he?

[Jana]

Ahhhh, I get it. :) Hehe. So this is real HungryLion's result.

[Leto]

His real results aren't "bad" either. His Woggistani percentage should be average for Serbia, so no big deal.

[CommonSense]

His real results aren't "bad" either. His Woggistani percentage should be average for Serbia, so no big deal.

In fact he has modal results for a Serb and even for a person from the dinaric region in general! I guess having regular Serbian genetics is not enough for someone who likes to think of himself as a descendant of medieval Serbian nobility :)

[Insuperable]

Theory of detective Mingle confirmed.

[Leto]

In fact he has modal results for a Serb and even for a person from the dinaric region in general! I guess having regular Serbian genetics is not enough for someone who likes to think of himself as a descendant of medieval Serbian nobility :)
Well, I see even a Belorussian match in his immediate match list. This woman is Baltic as fuck. His wife should be like her :cool:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 49.58
2 North_Atlantic 32.64
3 West_Med 8.84
4 West_Asian 3.88
5 Red_Sea 1.29
6 South_Asian 1.26
7 Oceanian 0.81
8 East_Asian 0.65
9 Amerindian 0.54
10 Siberian 0.42
11 East_Med 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Estonian 4.34
2 Belorussian 5.34
3 Russian_Smolensk 5.48
4 Lithuanian 5.5
5 Polish 5.64
6 Estonian_Polish 5.72
7 Finnish 7.95
8 Southwest_Russian 8.78
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.02
10 Ukrainian 9.16
11 Southwest_Finnish 9.26
12 South_Polish 9.31
13 East_Finnish 9.63
14 Kargopol_Russian 9.88
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.23
16 Erzya 13.11
17 La_Brana-1 15.8
18 North_Swedish 15.99
19 Croatian 16.37
20 East_German 17.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.3% Lithuanian + 14.7% Southwest_English @ 1.82
2 84.6% Lithuanian + 15.4% Irish @ 1.85
3 85.1% Lithuanian + 14.9% West_Scottish @ 1.87
4 84.4% Lithuanian + 15.6% Orcadian @ 1.94
5 80.7% Lithuanian + 19.3% Swedish @ 1.99
6 82.8% Lithuanian + 17.2% Norwegian @ 2.01
7 83.5% Lithuanian + 16.5% North_Dutch @ 2.04
8 85% Lithuanian + 15% Southeast_English @ 2.14
9 83.5% Lithuanian + 16.5% Danish @ 2.17
10 76% Lithuanian + 24% North_Swedish @ 2.29
11 82.6% Lithuanian + 17.4% North_German @ 2.31
12 90.8% Lithuanian + 9.2% French_Basque @ 2.38
13 85.1% Lithuanian + 14.9% South_Dutch @ 2.61
14 85.2% Lithuanian + 14.8% West_German @ 2.84
15 79.1% Lithuanian + 20.9% East_German @ 2.96
16 87.5% Lithuanian + 12.5% French @ 2.97
17 60.3% Estonian + 39.7% Polish @ 2.99
18 89.5% Lithuanian + 10.5% Southwest_French @ 3.06
19 65.7% Lithuanian + 34.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.08
20 90.6% Lithuanian + 9.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.11


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.95
2 Atlantic 24.21
3 Eastern_Euro 23.38
4 North_Sea 17.63
5 West_Med 2.98
6 West_Asian 1.82
7 Oceanian 0.76
8 South_Asian 0.2
9 Southeast_Asian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Estonian_Polish 6.33
2 Russian_Smolensk 6.69
3 Belorussian 6.96
4 Polish 7.38
5 Southwest_Russian 8.46
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.21
7 South_Polish 9.92
8 Lithuanian 10.22
9 Estonian 10.71
10 Kargopol_Russian 11.38
11 Ukrainian 11.72
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.68
13 East_Finnish 13.95
14 Southwest_Finnish 14.11
15 Croatian 14.18
16 Erzya 14.33
17 Finnish 14.89
18 La_Brana-1 15.36
19 Austrian 15.8
20 East_German 16.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.8% Estonian_Polish + 8.2% French_Basque @ 5.35
2 90.7% Belorussian + 9.3% French_Basque @ 5.75
3 90.9% Estonian_Polish + 9.1% Irish @ 5.77
4 91.1% Estonian_Polish + 8.9% West_Scottish @ 5.78
5 91.4% Estonian_Polish + 8.6% Southeast_English @ 5.83
6 90.2% Estonian_Polish + 9.8% North_German @ 5.86
7 93.6% Estonian_Polish + 6.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.88
8 93% Estonian_Polish + 7% Southwest_French @ 5.88
9 91.2% Estonian_Polish + 8.8% Danish @ 5.88
10 92.8% Estonian_Polish + 7.2% Orcadian @ 5.92
11 92.3% Estonian_Polish + 7.7% Southwest_English @ 5.93
12 94% Estonian_Polish + 6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.95
13 93.8% Estonian_Polish + 6.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.95
14 92% Estonian_Polish + 8% South_Dutch @ 5.98
15 92.5% Estonian_Polish + 7.5% North_Dutch @ 5.99
16 94.1% Estonian_Polish + 5.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.99
17 87.7% Estonian_Polish + 12.3% La_Brana-1 @ 6.02
18 86.7% Estonian_Polish + 13.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 6.02
19 94.7% Estonian_Polish + 5.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 6.04
20 88.4% Estonian_Polish + 11.6% Austrian @ 6.04

[Jana]

Theory of detective Mingle confirmed.

Will you post your results finally? K13 is enough. There is no reason to hide them, don't be like HungryLion.
I want to include them in Herzegovina average.

[Insuperable]

Will you post your results finally? K13 is enough. There is no reason to hide them, don't be like HungryLion.
I want to include them in Herzegovina average.

Tomorrow afternoon.

[vbnetkhio]

a result from Zrenjanin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zrenjanin).
she could be mixed with Hungarians.. but result like these appear deep in the Balkans too.

K13
Admix Results (sorted):

Population
North_Atlantic 27.07 Pct
Baltic 28.35 Pct
West_Med 15.98 Pct
West_Asian 10.48 Pct
East_Med 12.92 Pct
Red_Sea 2.56 Pct
South_Asian 0.23 Pct
East_Asian 1.22 Pct
Siberian 0.06 Pct
Amerindian 1.08 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.12
2 Moldavian 6.11
3 Romanian 6.31
4 Hungarian 7.44
5 Croatian 8.09
6 Bulgarian 8.92
7 Austrian 10.41
8 East_German 11.95
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.55
10 South_Polish 15.1
11 West_German 15.88
12 Ukrainian 15.96
13 Greek_Thessaly 17.25
14 South_Dutch 17.37
15 French 17.72
16 Polish 18.66
17 North_Italian 18.7
18 Southwest_Russian 19.52
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.6
20 North_German 20

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.3% Croatian + 25.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.13
2 54.9% Polish + 45.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.33
3 73.3% Serbian + 26.7% Moldavian @ 2.35
4 79.7% Serbian + 20.3% Croatian @ 2.43
5 88.5% Serbian + 11.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.51
6 57.1% Romanian + 42.9% Croatian @ 2.58
7 61.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 38.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.59
8 55% Hungarian + 45% Bulgarian @ 2.59
9 91.4% Serbian + 8.6% Polish @ 2.6
10 60.2% South_Polish + 39.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.6
11 90.1% Serbian + 9.9% Ukrainian @ 2.6
12 57.8% Bulgarian + 42.2% East_German @ 2.62
13 54.8% Romanian + 45.2% Hungarian @ 2.64
14 92.1% Serbian + 7.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.64
15 90% Serbian + 10% South_Polish @ 2.66
16 76.3% Romanian + 23.7% Polish @ 2.66
17 92.7% Serbian + 7.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.67
18 58.9% Ukrainian + 41.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.7
19 94.4% Serbian + 5.6% Lithuanian @ 2.7
20 93.8% Serbian + 6.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.72

k13 updated

zren,27.07,28.35,15.98,10.48,12.92,2.56,0.23,1.22, 0.06,1.08,0,0,0

Distance to: zren
3.00194937 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
3.51178018 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
3.56871125 Serb_Croatia
3.85246674 Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
3.96183039 Hungarian_Szekely
3.96657283 Hungarian_Csango
4.11387895 Hungarian_Transylvania
4.13457374 Bosniak
4.14844549 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
4.16324393 Serb_B&H
4.22029620 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
4.26820805 Serb_Croatia_Lika
4.31058001 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
4.31685070 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
4.34621675 Romania_Moldavia_North
4.36584471 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
4.36788278 Serb
4.40802677 Romania_Moldavia_average
4.60699468 Serb_Serbia
4.64088354 Serb_B&H_Krajina
4.88825122 Moldova_average
4.98658200 Croat_B&H
5.03210387 Bosniak_Sarajevo
5.08906671 Romania_Crisana
5.26621306 Romania_Maramures

Target: zren
Distance: 1.2651% / 1.26509359 | ADC: 0.25x
45.2 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
24.4 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
10.0 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
8.8 Pomak_Kavala
6.2 Swiss_French
3.0 Turk_Sliven-Alevi
1.8 Welsh
0.4 Dai
0.2 Karitiana

without Dupnitsa:
Target: zren
Distance: 1.0952% / 1.09518304 | ADC: 0.25x
55.4 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
13.0 Swiss_French
12.4 Pomak_Kavala
8.6 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
6.0 Hungarian_Transylvania
4.0 Turk_Sliven-Alevi
0.4 Dai
0.2 Karitiana


k15

Population
North_Sea 21.67 Pct
Atlantic 15.10 Pct
Baltic 16.66 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.75 Pct
West_Med 11.49 Pct
West_Asian 9.70 Pct
East_Med 10.05 Pct
Red_Sea 2.22 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.55 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.80 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.19
2 Hungarian 6.27
3 Moldavian 6.49
4 Romanian 6.56
5 Croatian 8.31
6 Austrian 8.66
7 Bulgarian 9.83
8 East_German 10.43
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.12
10 South_Polish 13.8
11 Ukrainian 14.12
12 West_German 14.54
13 South_Dutch 15.1
14 French 15.37
15 Greek_Thessaly 15.7
16 Polish 16.55
17 North_German 17.27
18 North_Italian 17.29
19 Southwest_Finnish 17.43
20 Russian_Smolensk 17.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.5% Hungarian + 12.5% Armenian @ 2.5
2 79.3% Hungarian + 20.7% Central_Greek @ 2.58
3 87.7% Hungarian + 12.3% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.66
4 76% Romanian + 24% North_Swedish @ 2.68
5 73.3% Hungarian + 26.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.73
6 51.4% Hungarian + 48.6% Romanian @ 2.74
7 85.3% Hungarian + 14.7% Turkish @ 2.8
8 87.8% Hungarian + 12.2% Assyrian @ 2.81
9 80.2% Hungarian + 19.8% East_Sicilian @ 2.83
10 86.6% Hungarian + 13.4% Cyprian @ 2.85
11 79.4% Hungarian + 20.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.85
12 78.7% Hungarian + 21.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.9
13 77.1% Romanian + 22.9% Swedish @ 2.91
14 82.1% Hungarian + 17.9% South_Italian @ 2.94
15 88.6% Hungarian + 11.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.98
16 87.2% Hungarian + 12.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.05
17 77.9% Romanian + 22.1% Norwegian @ 3.06
18 65.9% Serbian + 34.1% Hungarian @ 3.1
19 67% Bulgarian + 33% North_Swedish @ 3.17
20 87.4% Hungarian + 12.6% Syrian @ 3.18


k36

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.71 Pct
Armenian 3.71 Pct
Basque 1.24 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.33 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.07 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 11.65 Pct
East_Med 0.44 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.06 Pct
Fennoscandian 7.66 Pct
French 8.07 Pct
Iberian 7.09 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.40 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 3.22 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 5.07 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.42 Pct
North_Sea 4.05 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.96 Pct
West_Med 3.86 Pct


mdlp k11

Population
African -
Amerindian 0.40 Pct
ASI 0.44 Pct
Basal 8.73 Pct
Iran-Mesolithic 2.49 Pct
Neolithic 32.29 Pct
Oceanic 0.33 Pct
EHG 24.93 Pct
SEA -
Siberian -
WHG 30.36 Pct


mdlp k23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 35.92
2 Caucasian 32.93
3 European_Early_Farmers 17.92
4 North_African 3.71
5 South_Central_Asian 2.79
6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.36
7 Near_East 2.13
8 Tungus-Altaic 0.86
9 Australoid 0.48
10 South_Indian 0.39
11 Melano_Polynesian 0.25
12 Amerindian 0.17
13 African_Pygmy 0.08
14 Arctic 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serb_BH ( ) 3.23
2 Croat ( ) 3.28
3 Serb_Serbia ( ) 3.4
4 Bosnian ( ) 3.41
5 Montenegrian ( ) 3.54
6 Croat_BH ( ) 4.37
7 Bulgarian ( ) 5.39
8 Macedonian ( ) 5.93
9 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 7.55
10 Slovenian ( ) 8.11
11 Hungarian ( ) 8.53
12 Czech ( ) 8.98
13 Romanian ( ) 9.38
14 Slovak ( ) 10.07
15 Ukrainian_West ( ) 10.17
16 Greek_Northwest ( ) 10.71
17 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 11.38
18 Sicilian_West ( ) 11.73
19 Kosovar ( ) 11.78
20 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 11.84

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97% Montenegrian ( ) + 3% Mozabite ( ) @ 2.26
2 84.3% Bosnian ( ) + 15.7% Italian_North ( ) @ 2.41
3 50.2% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 49.8% Bosnian ( ) @ 2.42
4 82.6% Bulgarian ( ) + 17.4% Finn_West ( ) @ 2.45
5 78.3% Croat_BH ( ) + 21.7% Italian_North ( ) @ 2.49
6 70.9% Bulgarian ( ) + 29.1% Kashub ( ) @ 2.51
7 64.4% Bulgarian ( ) + 35.6% Czech ( ) @ 2.51
8 71.8% Bulgarian ( ) + 28.2% Sorb ( ) @ 2.54
9 84.6% Bosnian ( ) + 15.4% Maltese ( ) @ 2.55
10 61.3% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 38.7% Croat_BH ( ) @ 2.55
11 85% Bulgarian ( ) + 15% Finn_East ( ) @ 2.56
12 86.5% Montenegrian ( ) + 13.5% Russian_North ( ) @ 2.56
13 84.9% Bulgarian ( ) + 15.1% Finnish-East ( ) @ 2.56
14 67.3% Bulgarian ( ) + 32.7% Slovak ( ) @ 2.56
15 63.2% Bulgarian ( ) + 36.8% Hungarian ( ) @ 2.58
16 84.6% Bulgarian ( ) + 15.4% Finnish_FIN ( ) @ 2.58
17 85% Bosnian ( ) + 15% Sicilian_Trapani ( ) @ 2.59
18 89% Bosnian ( ) + 11% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 2.59
19 96.7% Montenegrian ( ) + 3.3% Berber_WGA ( ) @ 2.59
20 85.8% Bulgarian ( ) + 14.2% Finn ( ) @ 2.6


dodecad k12b

Population
Gedrosia 5.21 Pct
Siberian 0.24 Pct
Northwest_African 0.13 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 27.65 Pct
North_European 39.34 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.73 Pct
East_Asian 0.99 Pct
Caucasus 20.70 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Ion Basescul]

In fact he has modal results for a Serb and even for a person from the dinaric region in general! I guess having regular Serbian genetics is not enough for someone who likes to think of himself as a descendant of medieval Serbian nobility :)

Cases like this is why I have trust issues with results coming from the Balkans. Bunch of insecure cunts

[Jana]

Vbn, you don't use your own Bulgarian averages instead of these? No offense to Kaspias but yours are better. Dupnitsa which is made of 1 sample I think is highly outyling.
You used his samples anyway, just organised them better.

[vbnetkhio]

Vbn, you don't use your own Bulgarian averages instead of these? No offense to Kaspias but yours are better. Dupnitsa which is made of 1 sample I think is highly outyling.
You used his samples anyway, just organised them better.

idk, the old ones don't bother me too much. everybody who follows these threads already knows that Dupnitsa is some Csango-like outlier.

Kaspias said he's working on updating the averages these days, but he has to search for new kits because he lost his old collection, so it wil take some time.

[Jana]

Tomorrow afternoon.

Time has come. Please post them. :)

[Insuperable]

Time has come. Please post them. :)

It was a joke lol. But I can post it tomorrow at nine thirty till ten before midnight.

[Jana]

It was a joke lol. But I can post it tomorrow at nine thirty till ten before midnight.

Why are you refusing to post your results? I don't understand.

[Insuperable]

Why are you refusing to post your results? I don't understand.

You will never know what are my results
https://i.postimg.cc/wMPXQtfm/giphy.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/6Q3CgLkv/1ccd510729afb09c9d4117ff0042e765.jpg

[Jana]

Since thread is about Serbian DNA I don't want to offtopic. But it would be cool you post them, because you will see you are not only one with such results.
I have few samples from Split and one from east Herzegovina similar to you. One from Bosnia also iirc.

If you change your mind there is south slavic topic for that, let's keep this Serbian centered.

[Bosniensis]

Since thread is about Serbian DNA I don't want to offtopic. But it would be cool you post them, because you will see you are not only one with such results.
I have few samples from Split and one from east Herzegovina similar to you. One from Bosnia also iirc.

If you change your mind there is south slavic topic for that, let's keep this Serbian centered.

I am posting this image to negate the effect of offtopic you two created and to make this thread Serbian again

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/539828168560238592/rsgQO_oo_400x400.jpeg

[wolf08]

Jel se smije na ovoj temi zborit srpski?
Ako ne onda ću na engleski ako zatreba..
Prvo da se predstavim, Drago Kovačević iz Nikšića imenom i prezimenom srpskoga roda!
Viđeh da se ovdje moj rezultat pojavio, obzirom da se nerazumijem u te stvari previše, ne znam sa kojiem pravom je to moguće?!
Taj rezultat je moga imat samo moj lični prijatelj koga sam zamolio za neke rezultate jer nijesam viješ sa time, kako on nije ovdje, ne znam kako je moj rezultat ovdje završio i sa kojiem pravom.
Već sam reka ko sam i šta, ko radi ovu rabotu nek prestane da se ne bi uoči gledali oko toga.

[wolf08]

Ako nije moj prijatelj postavio ko je drugi ima to pravo a da mene ništa pita nije i sa kojom namjerom?!
Takve mutne rabote neće izać na dobro

[wolf08]

A Serb from Banija:

https://i.ibb.co/wYCJn0k/unknown.png



Kit QG1151988

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.25
2 North_Atlantic 25.71
3 West_Med 16.85
4 East_Med 15.81
5 West_Asian 8.84
6 Red_Sea 1.71
7 Siberian 0.67
8 Oceanian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.21
2 Romanian 6.03
3 Moldavian 6.16
4 Bulgarian 8.01
5 Croatian 8.08
6 Hungarian 8.67
7 Austrian 12.19
8 East_German 13.46
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.61
10 South_Polish 15.11
11 Ukrainian 15.71
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.62
13 West_German 18
14 Polish 18.71
15 Southwest_Russian 19
16 North_Italian 19.22
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.34
18 South_Dutch 19.46
19 French 19.58
20 Tuscan 20.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.4% South_Polish + 47.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.82
2 65.9% Bulgarian + 34.1% South_Polish @ 2.01
3 78.9% Romanian + 21.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.1
4 50.2% Bulgarian + 49.8% Croatian @ 2.11
5 73.4% Romanian + 26.6% Ukrainian @ 2.11
6 79.3% Romanian + 20.7% Belorussian @ 2.12
7 51.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 48.4% Tuscan @ 2.14
8 58% Romanian + 42% Croatian @ 2.14
9 65.1% South_Polish + 34.9% South_Italian @ 2.15
10 82.3% Romanian + 17.7% Lithuanian @ 2.17
11 80.9% Croatian + 19.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.18
12 67.9% Croatian + 32.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.19
13 76.8% Romanian + 23.2% Polish @ 2.19
14 70.7% Bulgarian + 29.3% Polish @ 2.2
15 60.7% Ukrainian + 39.3% West_Sicilian @ 2.21
16 52.1% Southwest_Russian + 47.9% Tuscan @ 2.23
17 72.7% Romanian + 27.3% South_Polish @ 2.23
18 61.2% South_Polish + 38.8% Central_Greek @ 2.24
19 78.2% Croatian + 21.8% South_Italian @ 2.27
20 78.7% Romanian + 21.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.28




Vahaduo K13 updated:



Banija_Serb,25.71,30.25,16.85,8.84,15.81,1.71,0.00 ,0.00,0.67,0.00,0.15,0.00,0.00

Distance to: Banija_Serb
1.53967529 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
1.62828130 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
1.66625328 Serb
1.70683918 Serb_Croatia
1.77741385 Serb_Serbia
1.82488356 Serb_Croatia_Lika
1.97489240 Serb_B&H
1.99954995 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
2.22285852 Bosniak
2.25137736 Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
2.48374717 Romania_Maramures
2.70590096 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
2.72257231 Serb_B&H_Krajina
2.73473948 Romania_Moldavia_North
2.82699487 Romania_Moldavia_average
2.83672346 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
3.18264041 Moldova_average
3.21648877 Romania_Crisana
3.22364700 Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
3.48585714 Croat_B&H
3.50648580 Bosniak_Sarajevo
3.66614239 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
3.74657177 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
3.97620422 Serb_Serbia_South&East
4.06345912 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner



Now, before you go, wait a moment a take a look at this ''infamous thread'' once more:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?277615-Krajina-Serb-(from-Banija)-results

Specifically I want you to check the Eurogenes K13 values and the digits they end in. Also take a look at the name of the email under which the kit I posted is registered :)

Okle tebe momče moj rezultat?! Ja se ne sjetih da je mene ko pita da se to objavi.Taj rezultat je moga viđet samo onaj kome sam da da mi pomogne oko analiza jer se ja u to nerazumijem.
Drago Kovačević, Nikšić.

[wolf08]

momče ja sam svoje sirove podatke posla drugome čovjeku, okle tebe pravo da ti to javno kačiš? Uopšte se ne razumijem u ovo nit me zanima.Viđeh i neke predikcije na moj rezultat.
Ako treba što da se objasni i razjasni javite se za telefon u privatnu poruku. Ja nikome nijesam da odobrenje da se moj rezultat ovdje postavlja

[CommonSense]

Haha, pa ovo je baš očajna imitacija crnogorskog govora. Da si napisao ekavicom a predstavio se kao čovek poreklom iz Nikšića bilo bi uverljivije. Ali nema veza, za pohvalu je što si sada rešio da budeš vuk umesto lava :rotfl

[Insuperable]

Ja sam mu dao.

[wolf08]

Haha, pa ovo je baš očajna imitacija crnogorskog govora. Da si napisao ekavicom a predstavio se kao čovek poreklom iz Nikšića bilo bi uverljivije. Ali nema veza, za pohvalu je što si sada rešio da budeš vuk umesto lava :rotfl

Ništa ja tebe ne razumijem.
Ja tebi nijesam dao da objavljuješ moj rezultat za moje znanje niko drugi ti nije da.
Gore mi napiši broj da se raspravimo, vidjeh nešto ti nije jasno.

[wolf08]

Ja ću da provjerim ko si ti.
Ti nijesi ima pravo da širiš moje rezultate bez da pitaš.
Poslije će biti mrčo mrčeni po slici bi teka da si djete neko

[CommonSense]

Ništa ja tebe ne razumijem.
Ja tebi nijesam dao da objavljuješ moj rezultat za moje znanje niko drugi ti nije da.
Gore mi napiši broj da se raspravimo, vidjeh nešto ti nije jasno.

Kako da te zovem kad si umro pre četiri godine?

https://www.onogost.me/drustvo/niksicanin-drago-kovacevic-stradao-u-saobracajnoj-nesreci

Pozivni broj za onaj svet i tarifa, šta ćemo sa tim?

[wolf08]

Kako da te zovem kad si umro pre četiri godine?

https://www.onogost.me/drustvo/niksicanin-drago-kovacevic-stradao-u-saobracajnoj-nesreci

Pozivni broj za onaj svet i tarifa, šta ćemo sa tim?

Ozbiljne gluposti ti ođe pišeš momče.
Ja ti rekoh.

[Jana]

LOL! Gladni Lav is a creative troll :)

[Terminator98]

Hahahahaha, pa ovo je hit. Mozda čovek nema 33% Baltic ali ima smisla za humor, definitivno. :bowlol::bowlol:

[Castor]

Hahahahaha, pa ovo je hit. Mozda čovek nema 33% Baltic ali ima smisla za humor, definitivno. :bowlol::bowlol:


Ja ću da provjerim ko si ti.
Ti nijesi ima pravo da širiš moje rezultate bez da pitaš.
Poslije će biti mrčo mrčeni po slici bi teka da si djete neko

Jel ovo Šćepan Šćekić lično, joinovao Apricity ili grešim? :rolleyes:

[CommonSense]

Results of Aleksandar "Šarko" Aksić, commonly known on forums as Aksa. He's a Serb from Žitinje (Vitina municipality), Kosovo:


Kit T270816

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 28.98
2 Baltic 25.7
3 West_Med 16.79
4 East_Med 16.19
5 West_Asian 8.18
6 Red_Sea 1.57
7 Siberian 1.28
8 Oceanian 0.86
9 Sub-Saharan 0.46

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 2.96
2 Romanian 5.39
3 Bulgarian 8.13
4 Hungarian 8.92
5 Moldavian 9.75
6 Austrian 10.88
7 Croatian 11.31
8 East_German 12.91
9 West_German 14.46
10 North_Italian 15.28
11 Greek_Thessaly 15.31
12 French 15.34
13 South_Dutch 16
14 Tuscan 17.18
15 South_Polish 17.76
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.76
17 Portuguese 17.97
18 Spanish_Galicia 18.45
19 Spanish_Cataluna 18.84
20 Ukrainian 18.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89% Serbian + 11% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.6
2 88.4% Serbian + 11.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.65
3 50.8% Tuscan + 49.2% South_Polish @ 1.67
4 89.3% Serbian + 10.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.72
5 91% Serbian + 9% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.72
6 88.2% Serbian + 11.8% Portuguese @ 1.75
7 90% Serbian + 10% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.78
8 89.2% Serbian + 10.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.78
9 90.2% Serbian + 9.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.81
10 90.2% Serbian + 9.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.81
11 89.5% Serbian + 10.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.88
12 90.5% Serbian + 9.5% Southwest_French @ 1.88
13 89.1% Serbian + 10.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.93
14 93.9% Serbian + 6.1% French_Basque @ 1.93
15 87.3% Serbian + 12.7% French @ 1.98
16 87.6% Serbian + 12.4% North_Italian @ 2.06
17 71.2% Hungarian + 28.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.16
18 62.2% Tuscan + 37.8% Estonian @ 2.28
19 88.8% Serbian + 11.2% West_German @ 2.36
20 59.2% Tuscan + 40.8% Belorussian @ 2.36

[MandM]

the coordinates of all the serbs here, does anyone save them? would be nice to compare or make a map with all of them

[vbnetkhio]

the coordinates of all the serbs here, does anyone save them? would be nice to compare or make a map with all of them

the averages for each region are on vahaduo. you can compare yourself to them there.

[MandM]

the averages for each region are on vahaduo. you can compare yourself to them there.

thanks

[vbnetkhio]

Serb from Lika (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lika), from Medak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medak,_Croatia)
it's close to Nikola Tesla's birthplace.


Serb_Lika,19.09,34.15,16.85,9.42,17.77,0.97,0,0.34 ,0,1.25,0,0.14,0

Target: Serb_Lika
Distance: 1.9847% / 1.98467429
34.4 Macedonian_Greece
33.4 Macedonian_Southwest
29.8 Latvian
1.2 Cyprian
0.6 Greek_Cypriot
0.6 Karitiana

<table class="distances"><tbody><tr><th>Distance&nbsp;to:</th><th>Serb_Lika</th></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(69.94927143096062, 100%, 50%)">6.83417881</td><td>Bulgarian_Northwest</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(59.61103725240365, 100%, 50%)">7.00648271</td><td>Moldova_Centre</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(54.66855277325183, 100%, 50%)">7.08885745</td><td>Croat_B&amp;H_Herzegovina</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(54.24218151629907, 100%, 50%)">7.09596364</td><td>Moldova_average</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(43.81361781917137, 100%, 50%)">7.26977304</td><td>Bulgarian_Sofia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(39.323383874297235, 100%, 50%)">7.34461027</td><td>Serb_B&amp;H_Krajina</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(30.698942801154786, 100%, 50%)">7.48835095</td><td>Bosniak_Sarajevo</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(28.303996032729998, 100%, 50%)">7.52826673</td><td>Serb_B&amp;H_Herzegovina</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(17.081043810042218, 100%, 50%)">7.71531594</td><td>Romania_Maramures</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(15.402755066283277, 100%, 50%)">7.74328742</td><td>Serb_B&amp;H</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(9.485600645421329, 100%, 50%)">7.84190666</td><td>Serb_Serbia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(9.231266968589011, 100%, 50%)">7.84614555</td><td>Serb_Serbia_West&amp;Central</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(3.7609843786420214, 100%, 50%)">7.93731693</td><td>Serb</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(0.8091820579197702, 100%, 50%)">7.98651363</td><td>Serb_Serbia_South&amp;East</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-3.9609075121667843, 100%, 50%)">8.06601513</td><td>Bosniak</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-17.766451260026088, 100%, 50%)">8.29610752</td><td>Bulgarian_Ruse</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-19.0770281229141, 100%, 50%)">8.31795047</td><td>Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-26.35450032561181, 100%, 50%)">8.43924167</td><td>Serb_Croatia_Kordun&amp;Banija</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-38.20030876100407, 100%, 50%)">8.63667181</td><td>Croat_B&amp;H</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-40.47639715937174, 100%, 50%)">8.67460662</td><td>Serb_B&amp;H_Bosnia_proper</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-41.35339262346804, 100%, 50%)">8.68922321</td><td>Bulgarian_Pleven</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-41.85618708605915, 100%, 50%)">8.69760312</td><td>Serb_Croatia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-47.301014601716815, 100%, 50%)">8.78835024</td><td>Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-49.02684241917251, 100%, 50%)">8.81711404</td><td>Pomak_Plovdiv</td></tr><tr><td style="color:black;background-color:hsl(-53.746119423832425, 100%, 50%)">8.89576866</td><td>Serb_Croatia_Lika</td></tr></tbody></table>

[Leto]

A new Serbian kit

Kit CA6843947

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.22
2 North_Atlantic 22.02
3 West_Med 20.07
4 East_Med 14.71
5 West_Asian 8.38
6 Red_Sea 5.06
7 East_Asian 0.46
8 Siberian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.7
2 Romanian 7.22
3 Bulgarian 8.04
4 Moldavian 8.41
5 Croatian 10.79
6 Hungarian 12.71
7 Greek_Thessaly 15.26
8 Austrian 15.54
9 East_German 16.7
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.74
11 Ukrainian 18.09
12 South_Polish 18.09
13 North_Italian 18.84
14 Tuscan 19.83
15 West_German 21.02
16 Polish 21.12
17 French 21.33
18 Southwest_Russian 21.39
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.69
20 Italian_Abruzzo 21.99

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.5% Greek_Thessaly + 47.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.58
2 76% Croatian + 24% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.58
3 59.9% Croatian + 40.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.67
4 70.1% Croatian + 29.9% East_Sicilian @ 4.71
5 84.8% Moldavian + 15.2% Sardinian @ 4.76
6 58.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41.4% East_Sicilian @ 4.77
7 54.6% Greek_Thessaly + 45.4% Ukrainian @ 4.78
8 65.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 34.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.8
9 56.6% Ukrainian + 43.4% East_Sicilian @ 4.83
10 81.8% Moldavian + 18.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.84
11 69.2% Croatian + 30.8% Central_Greek @ 4.84
12 58.7% Greek_Thessaly + 41.3% Polish @ 4.86
13 67.9% Moldavian + 32.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.91
14 61.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 38.1% South_Italian @ 4.91
15 57.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 42.5% Central_Greek @ 4.93
16 73.1% Croatian + 26.9% South_Italian @ 4.93
17 60.9% Greek_Thessaly + 39.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.99
18 58.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41.7% West_Sicilian @ 4.99
19 55.4% Ukrainian + 44.6% Central_Greek @ 5.03
20 77.1% Moldavian + 22.9% East_Sicilian @ 5.03

[Leto]

Serbian results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 29.88
2 Baltic 26.05
3 West_Med 16.94
4 East_Med 10.6
5 West_Asian 10.26
6 Red_Sea 3.51
7 South_Asian 1.62
8 Oceanian 1
9 Sub-Saharan 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.56
2 Hungarian 7.74
3 Romanian 8.42
4 Austrian 8.52
5 Moldavian 8.75
6 Croatian 10
7 East_German 10.42
8 Bulgarian 11.27
9 West_German 12.87
10 South_Dutch 14.23
11 French 14.39
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.95
13 South_Polish 16.25
14 North_Italian 17.09
15 North_German 17.48
16 Ukrainian 17.56
17 Spanish_Galicia 18.31
18 Greek_Thessaly 18.32
19 Portuguese 18.4
20 Spanish_Cataluna 19.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.3% East_German + 28.7% Central_Greek @ 3.29
2 63.4% Moldavian + 36.6% French @ 3.33
3 80.4% East_German + 19.6% Cyprian @ 3.42
4 81.1% East_German + 18.9% Syrian @ 3.44
5 72.3% East_German + 27.7% East_Sicilian @ 3.46
6 70.8% Moldavian + 29.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.49
7 81% East_German + 19% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.51
8 64.7% East_German + 35.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.55
9 50.3% Romanian + 49.7% Austrian @ 3.59
10 70.1% Moldavian + 29.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.6
11 72.9% Moldavian + 27.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.61
12 69.4% Moldavian + 30.6% Portuguese @ 3.62
13 71.1% Moldavian + 28.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.63
14 69.3% Moldavian + 30.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.65
15 58.1% Austrian + 41.9% Bulgarian @ 3.69
16 70% Austrian + 30% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.7
17 72.1% Moldavian + 27.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.71
18 79.1% East_German + 20.9% Turkish @ 3.73
19 56.3% Romanian + 43.7% East_German @ 3.73
20 82.4% East_German + 17.6% Assyrian @ 3.73


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 20.69
2 Baltic 17.8
3 North_Sea 17.29
4 West_Med 13.24
5 West_Asian 10.7
6 Eastern_Euro 9.11
7 East_Med 5.96
8 Red_Sea 3.25
9 South_Asian 1.05
10 Oceanian 0.91

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 7.76
2 Austrian 7.85
3 Romanian 8.42
4 Croatian 8.82
5 Moldavian 9.39
6 Hungarian 9.51
7 Bulgarian 10.57
8 East_German 10.92
9 French 14.73
10 South_Dutch 14.85
11 South_Polish 14.85
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.94
13 North_Italian 15.91
14 Ukrainian 16.07
15 Spanish_Galicia 16.67
16 West_German 16.7
17 Spanish_Cataluna 16.84
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.2
19 Portuguese 17.23
20 Polish 17.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.8% Moldavian + 22.2% French_Basque @ 4.94
2 70.6% Moldavian + 29.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.03
3 72.2% Moldavian + 27.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.09
4 70.2% Moldavian + 29.8% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.18
5 67.8% Moldavian + 32.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.23
6 69.9% Moldavian + 30.1% Southwest_French @ 5.27
7 70.1% Moldavian + 29.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.28
8 68% Croatian + 32% North_Italian @ 5.29
9 72.3% Croatian + 27.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.32
10 51.1% Bulgarian + 48.9% East_German @ 5.32
11 70.7% Moldavian + 29.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.37
12 73.1% Croatian + 26.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.41
13 70.3% Croatian + 29.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.49
14 71.3% Croatian + 28.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.5
15 67.8% Moldavian + 32.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 5.56
16 59.9% Romanian + 40.1% East_German @ 5.63
17 69.5% Moldavian + 30.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.63
18 71.8% Croatian + 28.2% Tuscan @ 5.66
19 54.8% North_Italian + 45.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.67
20 72.9% Croatian + 27.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.68

[vbnetkhio]

results from Drobnjak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drobnjaci)

https://i.imgur.com/XKP9Pz5.png

North_AtlanticBalticWest_MedWest_AsianEast_MedRed_ SeaSouth_AsianEast_AsianSiberianAmerindianOceanian Northeast_AfricanSub-Saharan
26.1225.5615.5614.2314.811.88--0.610.730.51--
24.8731.3217.627.4813.592.46--1.00-0.350.820.49
24.1727.7417.6712.6715.381.00-0.450.280.24--0.40
19.9232.8618.718.6115.112.14-1.350.17--1.12-

[Dušan]

I made PCA plot with national averages from updated K13 calculator, and 38 Serbian results.:)

https://i.imgur.com/gu8awjk.png

https://i.imgur.com/iCEt9j3.png

[MandM]

I made PCA plot with national averages from updated K13 calculator, and 38 Serbian results.:)

https://i.imgur.com/gu8awjk.png

https://i.imgur.com/iCEt9j3.png

you didint take me :cry

[Varda]

results from Drobnjak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drobnjaci)

https://i.imgur.com/XKP9Pz5.png

North_AtlanticBalticWest_MedWest_AsianEast_MedRed_ SeaSouth_AsianEast_AsianSiberianAmerindianOceanian Northeast_AfricanSub-Saharan
26.1225.5615.5614.2314.811.88--0.610.730.51--
24.8731.3217.627.4813.592.46--1.00-0.350.820.49
24.1727.7417.6712.6715.381.00-0.450.280.24--0.40
19.9232.8618.718.6115.112.14-1.350.17--1.12-

These are also Drobnjaks according to information which I got (Rondović family from Žabljak).

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=103881&d=1605706151

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=103882&d=1605706216

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=103883&d=1605706290

[Dušan]

you didint take me :cry

I am sorry, I forgot.

New PCA plot, with your result included. :)

https://i.imgur.com/0pd2IpG.png

[MoroLP]

A geographic & historical approach to Serbian supra-regional averages and Vbn's current supra-regional averages (#2265 (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?310130-NEW!-All-Gedmatch-calculators-on-Vahaduo-ON-LINE&p=7012028&viewfull=1#post7012028)):

Serb_north,25.11,30.70,16.57,9.04,14.65,1.53,0.53, 0.32,0.57,0.43,0.43,0.06,0.04
Serb_central,25.13,29.35,17.05,8.71,15.72,1.62,0.5 7,0.26,0.66,0.50,0.28,0.10,0.05
Serb_south,23.36,27.16,17.57,9.33,18.39,1.96,0.44, 0.18,0.84,0.35,0.28,0.00,0.15
Serb,24.72,29.47,17.13,9.20,15.42,1.55,0.55,0.27,0 .72,0.53,0.30,0.08,0.05

See post #245 (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?320456-Croat-K13-regional-(and-national)-averages&p=7035178&viewfull=1#post7035178) and #246 (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?320456-Croat-K13-regional-(and-national)-averages&p=7036748&viewfull=1#post7036748)

The older Serbian regional averages were grouped to make:

Serb_Serbia_West&Central,24.73,29.61,17.39,9.17,15.15,1.41,0.56,0.2 2,0.88,0.60,0.16,0.08,0.03 - 80% (1910)
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper,25.87,31.26,16.23,8.33,13.67,1.71, 0.71,0.47,0.91,0.50,0.28,0.05,0.01 - 10% (Bosnia_proper and Herzegovina made a new average with 20%)
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina,23.75,28.55,17.08,8.91,17.24,2.40,0. 25,0.02,0.54,0.73,0.50,0.03,0.00 - 10%
Serb_Central2,24.75,29.67,17.24,9.06,15.21,1.54,0. 54,0.23,0.85,0.60,0.21,0.07,0.03 - basically the core of the medieval Serbian state

Serb_Serbia_South&East,23.71,28.32,16.93,9.49,17.19,1.91,0.55,0.15,0 .75,0.44,0.31,0.12,0.11 - that's Serb_South2 (self-explanatory)

Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina,25.31,29.44,16.76,8.91,15.20 ,1.63,0.62,0.57,0.24,0.58,0.58,0.08,0.07 - that's Serb_North2 (self-explanatory)

Serb_B&H_Krajina,23.80,30.63,17.36,9.80,14.63,1.27,0.44,0 .22,0.75,0.36,0.60,0.03,0.08
Serb_Croatia_Lika,25.32,29.46,17.19,8.37,15.65,1.7 2,0.53,0.27,0.53,0.51,0.26,0.13,0.05
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia,26.32,28.20,16.93,9.45,15.48 ,1.07,0.32,0.31,0.71,0.37,0.57,0.18,0.08
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija,25.25,30.34,16.50,9.29,15.30,1.38,0.60,0.29 ,0.28,0.38,0.32,0.04,0.03
Serb_West2,25.17,29.66,17.00,9.23,15.27,1.36,0.47, 0.27,0.57,0.41,0.44,0.10,0.06 - Serbs who migrated westward and lived in proximity to Croats for several centuries

So, these supra-regional averages were based on previous regional averages which were "rough approximations" and don't necessarily "depict the genetics of these regions accurately". As can be seen from the first PCA (https://ibb.co/RgzKhxP) with new "_2" supra-regional averages, and the second PCA (https://ibb.co/WPx2V5g) also including older regional averages, Serbs seemingly don't have a northern supra-regional average (besides small regional B&H_Bosnia_proper) as the majority of the regional and supra-regional averages cluster making Serbian national average, with the only outlier being southern (supra-)regional average Serbia_South&East and Serbia_South(2). So, Serbs are quite a homogeneous nation, geographically speaking probably don't even have this slightly northern shifted "Serb_north", but is possibly useful to have one for northern-shifted samples.

Serbs from B&H have quite a range, from Bosnia proper are very similar to Bosniaks, from Krajina are very similar to Serbs from Croatia. However, why are the Serbs from Herzegovina so southern shifted in comparison to them and southern Croats including those from Herzegovina? They have a strong inclination toward South&East Serbia and Montenegrin average, being in-between them and Serbian national average. Is it due to partial Montenegrin origin? Also, it's interesting that Serbs from Croatia are so much southern shifted from Croatian regional averages south of river Sava. As if the Serbs were already southernly shifted and intermarried for centuries within their own ethnic & religious community?

[vbnetkhio]

So, these supra-regional averages were based on previous regional averages which were "rough approximations" and don't necessarily "depict the genetics of these regions accurately". As can be seen from the first PCA (https://ibb.co/RgzKhxP) with new "_2" supra-regional averages, and the second PCA (https://ibb.co/WPx2V5g) also including older regional averages, Serbs seemingly don't have a northern supra-regional average (besides small regional B&H_Bosnia_proper) as the majority of the regional and supra-regional averages cluster making Serbian national average, with the only outlier being southern (supra-)regional average Serbia_South&East and Serbia_South(2). So, Serbs are quite a homogeneous nation, geographically speaking probably don't even have this slightly northern shifted "Serb_north", but is possibly useful to have one for northern-shifted samples.

Among "central" Serbs the highest Baltic score is 34, on a very large sample. And among the "northern" there are already a couple of individuals with 36. This is what the northern group is based on.
The difference is very small, but it exists for sure.




Serbs from B&H have quite a range, from Bosnia proper are very similar to Bosniaks, from Krajina are very similar to Serbs from Croatia. However, why are the Serbs from Herzegovina so southern shifted in comparison to them and southern Croats including those from Herzegovina? They have a strong inclination toward South&East Serbia and Montenegrin average, being in-between them and Serbian national average. Is it due to partial Montenegrin origin?

They all have around 10 samples only. I think all 3 will end up closer to each other with more samples added. I'm pretty sure at least the North Atlantic will reach 25% in all 3 averages.



Also, it's interesting that Serbs from Croatia are so much southern shifted from Croatian regional averages south of river Sava. As if the Serbs were already southernly shifted and intermarried for centuries within their own ethnic & religious community?

Yes, I think this is what happened.

[PaleoEuropean]

Some balkanites tend to have higher Baltic score, but that's on individual level depending on how much they mixed with more slavic influenced people.

Slavs owe their ancestry partially to Scandinavians/Balts as well.

[MoroLP]

Among "central" Serbs the highest Baltic score is 34, on a very large sample. And among the "northern" there are already a couple of individuals with 36. This is what the northern group is based on. The difference is very small, but it exists for sure.

There surely exist outliers, but the "Baltic" score average for your "North" regional is still ~30. Are they in minority and from a specific region? From where are exactly these samples you based your "North" average?

[vbnetkhio]

There surely exist outliers, but the "Baltic" score average for your "North" regional is still ~30. Are they in minority and from a specific region? From where are exactly these samples you based your "North" average?

They are not outliers but "edge-liers". They are just a natural peak of old Slavic ancestry for their region. For example in Lika there are 2 people with 34, and there are also samples with 33, 32 ,31. Somebody with 37 would be an outlier, because there would be a gap, people 35 and 36 are missing.

If the central range is 24-34 and the average is 29, then the North might end up 26-36, average 31, when more samples are collected. But maybe it won't be so clear-cut.
It seems a genetic cluster (a group of completely mixed people who freely intermarry) has a range of individual components of around 10. (or 8-12)

For now, North is Kordun-Banija, Bosanska Krajina, Northeast Bosnia and Vojvodina. With more samples with a more precise place of origin, it should just be the Northern part of Bosanska Krajina, and also the northern parts of central Serbia.

[MoroLP]

They are not outliers but "edge-liers"... If the central range is 24-34 and the average is 29, then the North might end up 26-36, average 31, when more samples are collected. But maybe it won't be so clear-cut. It seems a genetic cluster (a group of completely mixed people who freely intermarry) has a range of individual components of around 10. (or 8-12)

Ok, that makes sense.


For now, North is Kordun-Banija, Bosanska Krajina, Northeast Bosnia, and Vojvodina. With more samples with a more precise place of origin, it should just be the Northern part of Bosanska Krajina, and also the northern parts of central Serbia.

Hmm, it's kind of following the Sava river, but basically now or then we're not speaking about an established geographic or administrative supra-region. Posavina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posavina) is too far-fetched by definition, but it's kind of along the line. Now understand "the approximate geographic distribution" of the "North" average. Interesting, wonder if newer samples will be more northern shifted. Keep us updated.

[Dušan]

Also, it's interesting that Serbs from Croatia are so much southern shifted from Croatian regional averages south of river Sava. As if the Serbs were already southernly shifted and intermarried for centuries within their own ethnic & religious community?

It is well known fact that intermarriages between Croats and Serbs in Croatia were very rare because of different religion, in exception of Tito Yugoslav period.

[MoroLP]

It is well known fact that intermarriages between Croats and Serbs in Croatia were very rare because of different religion, in exception of Tito Yugoslav period.

Yes, but it can be read around that supposedly happened partial assimilation of the natives. It's something that would be especially expected in those early centuries upon arrival. If the average of eg Serbs from Bosanska Krajina is a bit more northern-shifted possibly did happen in a low amount, but seemingly, generally speaking, did not as they are all around the Serbian central/national average.

[Dušan]

Yes, but it can be read around that supposedly happened partial assimilation of the natives. It's something that would be especially expected in those early centuries upon arrival. If the average of eg Serbs from Bosanska Krajina is a bit more northern-shifted possibly did happen in a low amount, but seemingly, generally speaking, did not as they are all around the Serbian central/national average.

Western Bosnia, Lika, Kordun, Banija and Dalmatian hinterland were deserted because of Ottoman-Austrian wars, and then these empty areas were settled by Serbs.
I don't know what assimilation could happen.

I for example have higher Baltic score than Serbian average, but it means nothing unusual, since my pre-Slavic element is more central Balkan, or even southern Balkan, than it should be suppoused for far western Dinaric area.

[MoroLP]

Western Bosnia, Lika, Kordun, Banija, and Dalmatian hinterland were deserted because of Ottoman-Austrian wars, and then these empty areas were settled by Serbs. I don't know what assimilation could happen.

Wasn't some Y-DNA subclade unusual for Serbs found among Serbs in Western Bosnia a clue?

[Dušan]

Wasn't some Y-DNA subclade unusual for Serbs found among Serbs in Western Bosnia a clue?

Stop thumb down me for no reason.
Why you desperately want to prove that we got assimilated some Croats? You are so pathetic.

What Y-DNA subcladе? If they exist, they are less than 5%.

[Dušan]

Ethnic map of part of Lika.
Red are Serbs, blue are Croats.

As people can see, villages were very very homogenous. Serbs and Croats lived in separated communities, until industrialisation and urbanisation in Titos Yugoslavia, when lot of population moved to cities, and there started intermarriages.

https://i.imgur.com/yfWY6cp.png

And BTW, these Lika Croats were no natives either, but Bunjevci settlers from Herzgovina.

[Jana]

Yes, it's true what Dušan says. For Lika I know that as well.

[Dušan]

Region of Banija 100 years ago - ethnic map.

There were few mixed settlement, especialy little towns, but most villages were either 100% Serbian or 100% Croatian.

https://i.imgur.com/aYvUFEH.png

[MoroLP]

Stop thumb down me for no reason.

Sorry, my mistake.


Why you desperately want to prove that we got assimilated some Croats? You are so pathetic.

Where? I don't, only said that can be read an opinion which considers partial i.e. minor assimilation. Watch your language.


What Y-DNA subcladе? If they exist, they are less than 5%.

This was published recently I-S17250* (https://www.poreklo.rs/2020/11/28/slavljenici-markovdana-u-krajini/), but was also something else, don't remember now if it were R1a subclade. Thought you knew something.

[Jana]

but was also something else, don't remember now if it were R1a subclade. Thought you knew something.

You have Carpatho-Dalmatian R1a subclade in mind (R-Y2608). Yeah it clearly follows Croat expansion. But it's minor among Serb R1a.

[Dušan]

This was published recently I-S17250* (https://www.poreklo.rs/2020/11/28/slavljenici-markovdana-u-krajini/), but was also something else, don't remember now if it were R1a subclade. Thought you knew something.

I am not into Y-dna, autosomal genetics is more interesting.

These are 10 surnames among hundreds and hundreds others.
Maybe they don't have matches in Herzegovina, but somewhere more eastern.

[Varda]

Sorry, my mistake.



Where? I don't, only said that can be read an opinion which considers partial i.e. minor assimilation. Watch your language.



This was published recently I-S17250* (https://www.poreklo.rs/2020/11/28/slavljenici-markovdana-u-krajini/), but was also something else, don't remember now if it were R1a subclade. Thought you knew something.

You probably think on these ones:
https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=2668.0
https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=532.0

I2-Y3120>S17250>S17250* Serbian families from Bosanska Krajina and Lika who celebrate Markovdan are from Zmijanje. Their further origin is from Konjic according to legend of Knežević family from Zmijanje. They are present on Zmijanja since first half of 16th century for sure.

[Dušan]

You probably think on these ones:
https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=2668.0
https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=532.0

I2-Y3120>S17250>S17250* Serbian families from Bosanska Krajina and Lika who celebrate Markovdan are from Zmijanje. Their further origin is from Konjic according to legend of Knežević family from Zmijanje. They are present on Zmijanja since first half of 16th century for sure.

Nice post from Poreklo forum:


"However, I think that this sub-branch in Krajina is not indigenous. We forget about one unpublished result from Popovo polje (research of Herzegovinians), with a story about the origin from Montenegro. I will quote the editor's comment for this result: "It belongs to haplogroup R1a-Z280, branch YP237> YP951. The closest matches are with those tested from genus A, Medic (1/18), Djap (1/17), Novakovic (2/23) and Demonja (1/15). "

Furthermore, the increased presence of this sub-branch in Krajina can be attributed to two causes:

- the reason for the otherwise increased presence of R1a: M458 L1029 and Z280 Y2613 (solid and Y2902), in Krajina, and the advantage of this haplogroup over E-V13 (emerges in second place in terms of representation after Dinaric), can be found in migrations of farmers from the interior of the Balkans after the collapse of the Serbian state in the Middle Ages. They are immigrants through traditional Serbian areas (Herzegovina, Montenegro, Raska), but we also find them there. I have already discussed that we have Z280 Y2613 in Pomoravlje, Raska, Romania, Bulgaria, and here Aksa says that we have YP237 further east in the interior of the Balkans. YP237 is also present in Montenegro and Herzegovina through the L366 sub-branch (Petrovići and Kadijević from Čeklić). We should not forget (in Krajina) the larger share of sub-branches DYS448 = 20 in Dinaric, which also supports the thesis of more present migrations from the interior of the Balkans. Therefore, the greater presence of these Slavic sub-branches in the western Serbian regions cannot be attributed to the indigenous, and especially not to the old Croatian origin, because it is not just one sub-branch, but several: R1a: M458 L1029, Z280 Y2613, and I2-CTS10228 : Z17855 and S17250 (PH908-).

- founder effect: arrival in desolate areas and sudden demographic expansion, which is present in several other haplogroups. Let's not forget N-P189.2 in Krajina, then Maleševci around Prnjavor, of which there are now more than in Herzegovina and Podrinje together, then Kriče J2b M205, Drobnjake I1 P109, and these are individual genera. These haplogroups are not more represented than R1a in total, but we reduce it to a common ancestor to the level of some 1,000 years, then Banjani / Pivljani, Drobnjaci and Kriči as individual genera had a much stronger demographic expansion than R1a genera (looking at the age of 1,000 years), and I think these three genera together reach even a total of R1a in Krajina. The reason that we have more R1a in Krajina than in Herzegovina and Montenegro, can never be the indigenous presence, especially since we have poorly tested areas of southern Serbia, Kosovo and Metohija, Macedonia, which is a possible base for these immigrants, and these areas were already deep in the interior of the Serbian territory during the collapse of the Serbian state in the Middle Ages."

[Varda]

Nice post from Poreklo forum:


"However, I think that this sub-branch in Krajina is not indigenous. We forget about one unpublished result from Popovo polje (research of Herzegovinians), with a story about the origin from Montenegro. I will quote the editor's comment for this result: "It belongs to haplogroup R1a-Z280, branch YP237> YP951. The closest matches are with those tested from genus A, Medic (1/18), Djap (1/17), Novakovic (2/23) and Demonja (1/15). "

Furthermore, the increased presence of this sub-branch in Krajina can be attributed to two causes:

- the reason for the otherwise increased presence of R1a: M458 L1029 and Z280 Y2613 (solid and Y2902), in Krajina, and the advantage of this haplogroup over E-V13 (emerges in second place in terms of representation after Dinaric), can be found in migrations of farmers from the interior of the Balkans after the collapse of the Serbian state in the Middle Ages. They are immigrants through traditional Serbian areas (Herzegovina, Montenegro, Raska), but we also find them there. I have already discussed that we have Z280 Y2613 in Pomoravlje, Raska, Romania, Bulgaria, and here Aksa says that we have YP237 further east in the interior of the Balkans. YP237 is also present in Montenegro and Herzegovina through the L366 sub-branch (Petrovići and Kadijević from Čeklić). We should not forget (in Krajina) the larger share of sub-branches DYS448 = 20 in Dinaric, which also supports the thesis of more present migrations from the interior of the Balkans. Therefore, the greater presence of these Slavic sub-branches in the western Serbian regions cannot be attributed to the indigenous, and especially not to the old Croatian origin, because it is not just one sub-branch, but several: R1a: M458 L1029, Z280 Y2613, and I2-CTS10228 : Z17855 and S17250 (PH908-).

- founder effect: arrival in desolate areas and sudden demographic expansion, which is present in several other haplogroups. Let's not forget N-P189.2 in Krajina, then Maleševci around Prnjavor, of which there are now more than in Herzegovina and Podrinje together, then Kriče J2b M205, Drobnjake I1 P109, and these are individual genera. These haplogroups are not more represented than R1a in total, but we reduce it to a common ancestor to the level of some 1,000 years, then Banjani / Pivljani, Drobnjaci and Kriči as individual genera had a much stronger demographic expansion than R1a genera (looking at the age of 1,000 years), and I think these three genera together reach even a total of R1a in Krajina. The reason that we have more R1a in Krajina than in Herzegovina and Montenegro, can never be the indigenous presence, especially since we have poorly tested areas of southern Serbia, Kosovo and Metohija, Macedonia, which is a possible base for these immigrants, and these areas were already deep in the interior of the Serbian territory during the collapse of the Serbian state in the Middle Ages."

One Croatian guy from western Herzegovina who is R1a-Z280>YP237>YP951 explores own further origin, his surname is Grubišić.
Interesting fact is that Serbian Krajina family Grubor is also R1a-Z280>YP237>YP951 and according to legend they originated from prince Grubiša from Zmijanje.

[CommonSense]

You have Carpatho-Dalmatian R1a subclade in mind (R-Y2608). Yeah it clearly follows Croat expansion. But it's minor among Serb R1a.

That branch exists among Serbs from the Kosovo-Raška area too. One muslim from Sandžak on our FTDNA project belongs to that clade. His surname is Kuč and he claims to be from a family indigenous to old Raška and that the Kuči tribe was originally of Slavic paternal descent as he is. I saw that he posted on the Bosniak DNA project facebook page too but they got mad at him because he was allegedly spreading Serbian and Slavic propaganda lol.

[Dušan]

Some of my new matches on Gedmatch:

Population
North_Atlantic 29.01 Pct
Baltic 28.46 Pct
West_Med 15.98 Pct
West_Asian 6.2 Pct
East_Med 17.74 Pct
Red_Sea 0.33 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.68 Pct
Amerindian 0.52 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -



Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.52
2 Romanian 7.26
3 Hungarian 8.29
4 Moldavian 9.45
5 Bulgarian 9.52
6 Croatian 10.33
7 Austrian 11.18
8 East_German 12.74
9 West_German 15.67
10 South_Polish 16.27
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.54
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.97
13 French 17.12
14 South_Dutch 17.16
15 Ukrainian 17.34
16 North_Italian 17.58
17 Tuscan 19.37
18 Polish 20.03
19 Portuguese 20.08
20 North_German 20.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.3% Tuscan + 45.7% Belorussian @ 3.48
2 54% Tuscan + 46% Estonian_Polish @ 3.78
3 51.7% Tuscan + 48.3% Southwest_Russian @ 3.83
4 57.9% Tuscan + 42.1% Estonian @ 3.84
5 77.6% Hungarian + 22.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.87
6 57.9% Greek_Thessaly + 42.1% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.87
7 59.1% Tuscan + 40.9% Lithuanian @ 3.88
8 54.6% South_Polish + 45.4% Tuscan @ 3.88
9 52.9% West_Sicilian + 47.1% Estonian @ 4
10 81.6% Hungarian + 18.4% Italian_Jewish @ 4.05
11 81.8% Hungarian + 18.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.06
12 52.9% Ukrainian + 47.1% Tuscan @ 4.1
13 69.6% Hungarian + 30.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.15
14 59.6% South_Polish + 40.4% West_Sicilian @ 4.19
15 53.8% Tuscan + 46.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.23
16 94.1% Serbian + 5.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.29
17 84% Serbian + 16% Hungarian @ 4.31
18 94.4% Serbian + 5.6% North_Swedish @ 4.33
19 72.1% Bulgarian + 27.9% North_Swedish @ 4.33
20 94.5% Serbian + 5.5% Southeast_English @ 4.34





Population
North_Atlantic 22.7 Pct
Baltic 29.25 Pct
West_Med 20.08 Pct
West_Asian 6.95 Pct
East_Med 17.81 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.28 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.17 Pct
Amerindian 1.06 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.64 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.06 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 6.79
2 Serbian 6.92
3 Bulgarian 7.28
4 Moldavian 9.39
5 Croatian 11.51
6 Hungarian 12.76
7 Greek_Thessaly 14.71
8 Austrian 15.98
9 East_German 17.07
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.71
11 North_Italian 18.29
12 South_Polish 18.5
13 Ukrainian 18.5
14 Tuscan 19.29
15 West_German 20.95
16 French 21.44
17 Italian_Abruzzo 21.75
18 Southwest_Russian 21.78
19 Polish 21.83
20 Central_Greek 21.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.2% Greek_Thessaly + 43.8% Ukrainian @ 4.52
2 63% Ukrainian + 37% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.92
3 57.1% Croatian + 42.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.93
4 62.8% Greek_Thessaly + 37.2% Estonian_Polish @ 4.95
5 77% Bulgarian + 23% Ukrainian @ 4.97
6 58.9% Ukrainian + 41.1% South_Italian @ 4.98
7 55% Ukrainian + 45% West_Sicilian @ 5.01
8 74.5% Croatian + 25.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.02
9 67.4% Greek_Thessaly + 32.6% Lithuanian @ 5.07
10 66.5% Bulgarian + 33.5% Croatian @ 5.08
11 60.6% Greek_Thessaly + 39.4% Polish @ 5.09
12 81.8% Bulgarian + 18.2% Estonian_Polish @ 5.09
13 67.1% Greek_Thessaly + 32.9% Estonian @ 5.1
14 84.6% Bulgarian + 15.4% Estonian @ 5.17
15 56.3% Greek_Thessaly + 43.7% South_Polish @ 5.19
16 84.9% Bulgarian + 15.1% Lithuanian @ 5.2
17 63.2% Ukrainian + 36.8% Italian_Jewish @ 5.2
18 80.7% Bulgarian + 19.3% Polish @ 5.21
19 82.7% Bulgarian + 17.3% Belorussian @ 5.24
20 55.2% Greek_Thessaly + 44.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.25




Population
North_Atlantic 26.24 Pct
Baltic 33.77 Pct
West_Med 16.01 Pct
West_Asian 7.19 Pct
East_Med 15.23 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.24 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.11 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.25 Pct
Northeast_African 0.21 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.7 Pct


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.55
2 Croatian 5.93
3 Serbian 6.59
4 Hungarian 7.9
5 Romanian 9.73
6 Bulgarian 11.42
7 Austrian 11.95
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.02
9 South_Polish 12.22
10 East_German 12.5
11 Ukrainian 12.72
12 Polish 15.74
13 Southwest_Russian 16
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.47
15 Russian_Smolensk 17.79
16 Estonian_Polish 18.08
17 Belorussian 18.6
18 West_German 18.75
19 Greek_Thessaly 20.01
20 South_Dutch 20.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.8% Bulgarian + 48.2% South_Polish @ 3.25
2 62.6% South_Polish + 37.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.27
3 75.4% South_Polish + 24.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.37
4 69% Ukrainian + 31% West_Sicilian @ 3.37
5 58.5% Bulgarian + 41.5% Polish @ 3.39
6 62.7% Bulgarian + 37.3% Belorussian @ 3.42
7 52.9% Bulgarian + 47.1% Ukrainian @ 3.43
8 74.6% Ukrainian + 25.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.44
9 60.3% Southwest_Russian + 39.7% Tuscan @ 3.45
10 61.7% Ukrainian + 38.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.48
11 67.3% Bulgarian + 32.7% Estonian @ 3.52
12 85.8% Croatian + 14.2% Ashkenazi @ 3.53
13 62% Bulgarian + 38% Estonian_Polish @ 3.54
14 75.5% South_Polish + 24.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.55
15 56.2% Polish + 43.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.57
16 66.2% Romanian + 33.8% Estonian_Polish @ 3.59
17 66.9% Romanian + 33.1% Belorussian @ 3.59
18 54.4% Lithuanian + 45.6% West_Sicilian @ 3.59
19 71.2% South_Polish + 28.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.6
20 88.4% Croatian + 11.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.6






Population
North_Atlantic 23.03 Pct
Baltic 30.75 Pct
West_Med 15.57 Pct
West_Asian 9.11 Pct
East_Med 17.94 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.67 Pct
Amerindian 0.26 Pct
Oceanian 1.32 Pct
Northeast_African 0.35 Pct
Sub-Saharan -



Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.83
2 Romanian 6.69
3 Moldavian 7.37
4 Bulgarian 7.54
5 Croatian 9.83
6 Hungarian 11.11
7 Austrian 15.22
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.7
9 Greek_Thessaly 16.13
10 East_German 16.35
11 South_Polish 16.4
12 Ukrainian 16.62
13 Southwest_Russian 19.22
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.64
15 Polish 19.92
16 West_German 20.76
17 North_Italian 20.88
18 Tuscan 21.38
19 Russian_Smolensk 21.54
20 Tatar 21.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.2% Bulgarian + 26.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.87
2 76.2% Bulgarian + 23.8% Belorussian @ 2.92
3 75.7% Bulgarian + 24.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.95
4 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Lithuanian @ 3.02
5 79.3% Bulgarian + 20.7% Estonian @ 3.07
6 79.8% Bulgarian + 20.2% East_Finnish @ 3.12
7 70.5% Bulgarian + 29.5% Ukrainian @ 3.2
8 77.2% Bulgarian + 22.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.21
9 54.5% Greek_Thessaly + 45.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.22
10 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.25
11 74.1% Bulgarian + 25.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.3
12 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Finnish @ 3.33
13 78.1% Bulgarian + 21.9% Erzya @ 3.4
14 70.5% Bulgarian + 29.5% South_Polish @ 3.45
15 59% Southwest_Russian + 41% South_Italian @ 3.48
16 60.3% Ukrainian + 39.7% Ashkenazi @ 3.48
17 66.3% Ukrainian + 33.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.49
18 74.6% Bulgarian + 25.4% Polish @ 3.51
19 58.4% Greek_Thessaly + 41.6% Belorussian @ 3.54
20 55.7% Southwest_Russian + 44.3% West_Sicilian @ 3.57

[Dušan]

Few more

Population
North_Atlantic 24.94 Pct
Baltic 31.23 Pct
West_Med 16.28 Pct
West_Asian 9.15 Pct
East_Med 13.42 Pct
Red_Sea 2.68 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.06 Pct
Oceanian 0.7 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.54 Pct


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.14
2 Serbian 4.71
3 Croatian 6.35
4 Romanian 7.59
5 Hungarian 8.17
6 Bulgarian 9.5
7 Austrian 11.97
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.78
9 East_German 12.92
10 South_Polish 13.76
11 Ukrainian 14.16
12 Polish 17.08
13 Southwest_Russian 17.46
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.69
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.13
16 West_German 18.37
17 Russian_Smolensk 19.15
18 Estonian_Polish 19.68
19 South_Dutch 19.82
20 Belorussian 20.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.2% Croatian + 19.8% Central_Greek @ 1.33
2 80.9% Croatian + 19.1% East_Sicilian @ 1.39
3 82.6% Croatian + 17.4% South_Italian @ 1.43
4 74.5% Croatian + 25.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.44
5 60.3% Croatian + 39.7% Bulgarian @ 1.55
6 84.9% Croatian + 15.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.58
7 85% Croatian + 15% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.67
8 85% Croatian + 15% Italian_Jewish @ 1.7
9 86.7% Croatian + 13.3% Cyprian @ 1.72
10 59.6% Polish + 40.4% Central_Greek @ 1.77
11 51.5% Polish + 48.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.81
12 86.2% Croatian + 13.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.82
13 80.8% Croatian + 19.2% West_Sicilian @ 1.83
14 63.4% Polish + 36.6% South_Italian @ 1.84
15 80% Croatian + 20% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.87
16 54.8% Croatian + 45.2% Romanian @ 1.88
17 82% Croatian + 18% Ashkenazi @ 1.88
18 64.6% Bulgarian + 35.4% Polish @ 1.91
19 58.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.94
20 86.3% Croatian + 13.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.94





Population
North_Atlantic 24.3 Pct
Baltic 29.58 Pct
West_Med 20.48 Pct
West_Asian 7.9 Pct
East_Med 16.63 Pct
Red_Sea 0.93 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.18 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.75
2 Romanian 6.51
3 Bulgarian 7.54
4 Moldavian 8.55
5 Croatian 10.42
6 Hungarian 11.59
7 Austrian 14.37
8 Greek_Thessaly 15.34
9 East_German 15.55
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.85
11 South_Polish 17.51
12 Ukrainian 17.76
13 North_Italian 17.84
14 Tuscan 19.31
15 West_German 19.6
16 French 20.17
17 Polish 20.91
18 South_Dutch 20.91
19 Southwest_Russian 21.31
20 Portuguese 21.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.8% Croatian + 39.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.25
2 53.9% Greek_Thessaly + 46.1% Ukrainian @ 4.33
3 56.6% Ukrainian + 43.4% West_Sicilian @ 4.41
4 84% Moldavian + 16% Sardinian @ 4.42
5 60.7% Bulgarian + 39.3% Croatian @ 4.44
6 70.4% Croatian + 29.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.52
7 77% Croatian + 23% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.57
8 73.7% Croatian + 26.3% South_Italian @ 4.58
9 74.1% Bulgarian + 25.9% Ukrainian @ 4.59
10 58.2% Greek_Thessaly + 41.8% Polish @ 4.61
11 53.6% Greek_Thessaly + 46.4% South_Polish @ 4.62
12 60.5% Ukrainian + 39.5% South_Italian @ 4.69
13 77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Polish @ 4.7
14 70.3% Croatian + 29.7% Central_Greek @ 4.7
15 74.2% Bulgarian + 25.8% South_Polish @ 4.74
16 77.2% Croatian + 22.8% Italian_Jewish @ 4.75
17 71.5% Croatian + 28.5% East_Sicilian @ 4.79
18 66.9% Croatian + 33.1% Tuscan @ 4.83
19 52.3% Ukrainian + 47.7% Tuscan @ 4.83
20 73.6% Bulgarian + 26.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.85





Population
North_Atlantic 26.03 Pct
Baltic 32.4 Pct
West_Med 15.3 Pct
West_Asian 10.59 Pct
East_Med 11.2 Pct
Red_Sea 1.27 Pct
South_Asian 0.32 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.64 Pct
Amerindian 0.9 Pct
Oceanian 0.8 Pct
Northeast_African 0.23 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.34 Pct


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.4
2 North_Atlantic 26.03
3 West_Med 15.3
4 East_Med 11.2
5 West_Asian 10.59
6 Red_Sea 1.27
7 Amerindian 0.9
8 Oceanian 0.8
9 Siberian 0.64
10 Sub-Saharan 0.34
11 South_Asian 0.32
12 Northeast_African 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 2.36
2 Croatian 4.54
3 Serbian 6.31
4 Hungarian 6.76
5 Romanian 9.48
6 Austrian 10.79
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.8
8 East_German 11.42
9 Bulgarian 11.59
10 South_Polish 11.68
11 Ukrainian 12.22
12 Polish 15.15
13 Southwest_Russian 15.64
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.72
15 Russian_Smolensk 17.3
16 West_German 17.73
17 Estonian_Polish 18
18 Belorussian 18.63
19 South_Dutch 19.2
20 Kargopol_Russian 19.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.9% Moldavian + 21.1% Serbian @ 1.72
2 91.6% Moldavian + 8.4% West_German @ 1.72
3 92.7% Moldavian + 7.3% French @ 1.73
4 91.8% Croatian + 8.2% Armenian @ 1.76
5 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.78
6 92.6% Moldavian + 7.4% South_Dutch @ 1.8
7 94.7% Moldavian + 5.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.81
8 90.2% Croatian + 9.8% Turkish @ 1.82
9 94.7% Moldavian + 5.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.82
10 94.5% Moldavian + 5.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.82
11 94.9% Moldavian + 5.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.82
12 94.9% Moldavian + 5.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.82
13 93.8% Moldavian + 6.2% North_Italian @ 1.83
14 94.3% Moldavian + 5.7% Portuguese @ 1.83
15 95.3% Moldavian + 4.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.84
16 94.6% Moldavian + 5.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.84
17 95% Moldavian + 5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.87
18 53.4% Romanian + 46.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.87
19 69.2% Croatian + 30.8% Romanian @ 1.88
20 88.1% Moldavian + 11.9% Austrian @ 1.88

[Dirdepo]

Distance: 2.5514% / 0.02551449
39.9 Baltic_EST_BA
17.0 Turkish_Rumeli
15.1 Cossack_Ukrainian
14.2 Rumelia_East
13.7 Portuguese
0.1 Orcadian

[Leto]

Serbian or possibly Montenegrin results (uploaded a couple of months ago)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.32
2 North_Atlantic 24.87
3 West_Med 17.62
4 East_Med 13.59
5 West_Asian 7.48
6 Red_Sea 2.46
7 Siberian 1
8 Northeast_African 0.82
9 Sub-Saharan 0.49
10 Oceanian 0.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5
2 Serbian 5.08
3 Croatian 6.78
4 Romanian 7.99
5 Hungarian 8.63
6 Bulgarian 9.81
7 Austrian 12.16
8 East_German 13.01
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.11
10 South_Polish 14
11 Ukrainian 14.3
12 Polish 17.33
13 Southwest_Russian 17.8
14 Greek_Thessaly 18.16
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.23
16 West_German 18.51
17 Russian_Smolensk 19.44
18 Estonian_Polish 19.81
19 South_Dutch 19.82
20 French 20.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.3% Croatian + 15.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.27
2 64.4% Ukrainian + 35.6% West_Sicilian @ 2.31
3 80.2% Croatian + 19.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.51
4 74.1% Croatian + 25.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.55
5 84.6% Croatian + 15.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.57
6 80.7% Croatian + 19.3% East_Sicilian @ 2.6
7 66.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.66
8 82.5% Croatian + 17.5% South_Italian @ 2.69
9 81.6% Croatian + 18.4% Ashkenazi @ 2.74
10 84.9% Croatian + 15.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.78
11 80.3% Croatian + 19.7% Central_Greek @ 2.79
12 86% Croatian + 14% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.8
13 86% Croatian + 14% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.81
14 51.2% Polish + 48.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.85
15 56.1% Ukrainian + 43.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.86
16 60.4% Croatian + 39.6% Bulgarian @ 2.87
17 65.1% Ukrainian + 34.9% East_Sicilian @ 2.93
18 67.7% Ukrainian + 32.3% South_Italian @ 2.93
19 78.1% Croatian + 21.9% Tuscan @ 2.95
20 58.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.02


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.78
2 North_Sea 18.37
3 West_Med 14.03
4 Atlantic 13.83
5 Eastern_Euro 13.35
6 East_Med 10.19
7 West_Asian 6.71
8 Red_Sea 2.47
9 Sub-Saharan 0.83
10 Oceanian 0.2
11 Northeast_African 0.18
12 Siberian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.82
2 Serbian 5.99
3 Croatian 6.69
4 Romanian 7.53
5 Hungarian 7.78
6 Bulgarian 9.6
7 Austrian 9.99
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.75
9 East_German 12.32
10 Ukrainian 12.56
11 South_Polish 12.67
12 Polish 15.32
13 Greek_Thessaly 16.01
14 Russian_Smolensk 16.13
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.24
16 Southwest_Russian 16.71
17 Greek 17.58
18 Estonian_Polish 18.12
19 Belorussian 18.17
20 North_Italian 18.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.7% Moldavian + 9.3% Sardinian @ 2.71
2 56.3% Ukrainian + 43.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.83
3 82.7% Moldavian + 17.3% North_Italian @ 3
4 83.7% Moldavian + 16.3% Tuscan @ 3.05
5 65.7% Ukrainian + 34.3% East_Sicilian @ 3.17
6 61.2% Ukrainian + 38.8% Tuscan @ 3.21
7 56.1% South_Polish + 43.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.23
8 51.2% Polish + 48.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.24
9 68.2% Ukrainian + 31.8% South_Italian @ 3.26
10 90.8% Moldavian + 9.2% Algerian @ 3.29
11 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.29
12 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Moroccan @ 3.3
13 72.9% Croatian + 27.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.31
14 65% Ukrainian + 35% Central_Greek @ 3.32
15 86.8% Moldavian + 13.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.32
16 81.8% Moldavian + 18.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.33
17 65.6% Ukrainian + 34.4% West_Sicilian @ 3.33
18 91% Moldavian + 9% Tunisian @ 3.33
19 89.9% Moldavian + 10.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.36
20 58.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.38

[MandM]

Women from Belgrade
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.69
2 North_Atlantic 25.03
3 West_Med 18.02
4 East_Med 13.59
5 West_Asian 10.49
6 Red_Sea 1.36
7 Siberian 1.26
8 South_Asian 1.09
9 Amerindian 0.86
10 Northeast_African 0.6
11 Sub-Saharan 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.86
2 Romanian 5.05
3 Moldavian 6.65
4 Bulgarian 7.33
5 Croatian 9.36
6 Hungarian 9.59
7 Austrian 12.5
8 East_German 13.89
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.6
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.86
11 South_Polish 16.67
12 Ukrainian 17.17
13 West_German 17.52
14 North_Italian 17.82
15 French 18.69
16 South_Dutch 18.96
17 Tuscan 19.42
18 Polish 20.21
19 Southwest_Russian 20.7
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.9

[MandM]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.19
2 North_Atlantic 22.22
3 West_Med 19.89
4 East_Med 17.8
5 West_Asian 8.06
6 Siberian 2.59
7 Red_Sea 1.43
8 Sub-Saharan 0.28
9 East_Asian 0.27
10 South_Asian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.26
2 Bulgarian 5.64
3 Serbian 6.4
4 Moldavian 10.06
5 Croatian 12.74
6 Greek_Thessaly 12.88
7 Hungarian 13.48
8 Austrian 16.48
9 North_Italian 17.01
10 Tuscan 17.6
11 East_German 17.87
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.94
13 Italian_Abruzzo 19.76
14 South_Polish 19.83
15 Ukrainian 19.96
16 Central_Greek 20
17 West_Sicilian 20.5
18 West_German 20.95
19 French 21.03
20 East_Sicilian 21.13

[MandM]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.15
2 North_Atlantic 24.37
3 West_Med 17.57
4 East_Med 16.76
5 West_Asian 7.88
6 East_Asian 0.43
7 Siberian 0.36
8 Sub-Saharan 0.32
9 Amerindian 0.13
10 Oceanian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.91
2 Moldavian 6.67
3 Romanian 7.8
4 Croatian 8.28
5 Bulgarian 8.98
6 Hungarian 10.08
7 Austrian 13.85
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.46
9 East_German 14.73
10 South_Polish 14.98
11 Ukrainian 15.19
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.49
13 Southwest_Russian 18.37
14 Polish 18.44
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.79
16 West_German 19.95
17 Russian_Smolensk 20.33
18 Estonian_Polish 20.61
19 North_Italian 20.72
20 Belorussian 21.22

[MandM]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.35
2 North_Atlantic 23.39
3 East_Med 15.99
4 West_Med 15.47
5 West_Asian 9.64
6 Red_Sea 2.92
7 Amerindian 1.69
8 East_Asian 1.55

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.43
2 Romanian 5.59
3 Moldavian 6.74
4 Bulgarian 7.02
5 Croatian 9.31
6 Hungarian 10.32
7 Austrian 14.16
8 East_German 15.46
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.49
10 Greek_Thessaly 15.58
11 South_Polish 16.45
12 Ukrainian 16.75
13 Southwest_Russian 19.65
14 West_German 19.66
15 Polish 19.79
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.84
17 North_Italian 19.91
18 Tuscan 20.58
19 French 21.12
20 South_Dutch

[MandM]

found them on gedmatch, did my best to look up there roots, dhow do you guys do, contact them or just go on surname ?

[CommonSense]

found them on gedmatch, did my best to look up there roots, dhow do you guys do, contact them or just go on surname ?

I saw the family tree of the individuals whose results I had shared in the past. Mingle and vbnetkhio usually messaged the owners of the kits they found. What about you, did you contact those women from Belgrade or?

[MandM]

I saw the family tree of the individuals whose results I had shared in the past. Mingle and vbnetkhio usually messaged the owners of the kits they found. What about you, did you contact those women from Belgrade or?

i have sent here or acctualy Him, her husband has the email put his emaila, with no replay so far, so i found here on FB and the kit after here is here husbands, i will tell you as soon as o know somthing

[CommonSense]

Ancestry from Crnjelovo, Bijeljina (Bosnia):



Kit WP6979108

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 28.17
2 Baltic 27.14
3 East_Med 16.93
4 West_Med 15.83
5 West_Asian 9.31
6 Siberian 2.35
7 East_Asian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.28
2 Romanian 5.35
3 Bulgarian 7.9
4 Hungarian 8.79
5 Moldavian 8.99
6 Croatian 10.75
7 Austrian 11.61
8 East_German 13.42
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.79
10 West_German 15.8
11 South_Polish 17.01
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.08
13 North_Italian 17.11
14 French 17.3
15 South_Dutch 17.37
16 Ukrainian 18.07
17 Tuscan 18.62
18 Portuguese 20.24
19 North_German 20.63
20 Spanish_Galicia 20.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.6% Bulgarian + 24.4% North_Swedish @ 2.76
2 83.6% Romanian + 16.4% North_Swedish @ 2.91
3 84.3% Romanian + 15.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.96
4 65.1% Romanian + 34.9% Hungarian @ 2.99
5 53.1% Bulgarian + 46.9% Hungarian @ 3.06
6 98.7% Serbian + 1.3% Evens @ 3.07
7 98.7% Serbian + 1.3% Dolgan @ 3.07
8 98.7% Serbian + 1.3% Evenki @ 3.08
9 98.8% Serbian + 1.2% Yakut @ 3.1
10 98.5% Serbian + 1.5% Selkup @ 3.12
11 98.8% Serbian + 1.2% Koryak @ 3.12
12 98.5% Serbian + 1.5% Ket @ 3.13
13 98.9% Serbian + 1.1% Oroqen @ 3.13
14 98.9% Serbian + 1.1% Chukchi @ 3.15
15 98.8% Serbian + 1.2% Tuvinian @ 3.17
16 98.9% Serbian + 1.1% Buryat @ 3.17
17 98.8% Serbian + 1.2% Altaian @ 3.18
18 98.6% Serbian + 1.4% Shors @ 3.19
19 98.7% Serbian + 1.3% Hakas @ 3.19
20 99% Serbian + 1% Mongolian @ 3.21

[Jana]

^^^^High Siberian for a Serb.

[Dušan]

Ancestry from Crnjelovo, Bijeljina (Bosnia):



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 28.17
2 Baltic 27.14


I noticed that often who has higher North Atlantic, then he has lower Baltic, and vice versa.
But sum of North Atlantic and Baltic is most usualy 54-56%.

[CommonSense]

^^^^High Siberian for a Serb.

Those 'lesser' components vary based on the chip, but I think all of us have some minimal Siberian-like ancestry (considering western Euros don't ever score this component).

[Roy]

^^^^High Siberian for a Serb.

https://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/milan-serbia.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Milan_Stankovi%C4%87_cropped.jpg

[vbnetkhio]

from the Vranje area

https://spos.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Vranje-mapa-.jpg

Population
North_Atlantic19.62 Pct
Baltic29.31 Pct
West_Med19.67 Pct
West_Asian9.93 Pct
East_Med19.29 Pct
Red_Sea-
South_Asian-
East_Asian0.93 Pct
Siberian0.25 Pct
Amerindian0.98 Pct
Oceanian-
Northeast_African-
Sub-Saharan-

[CommonSense]

from the Vranje area

https://spos.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Vranje-mapa-.jpg

Population
North_Atlantic19.62 Pct
Baltic29.31 Pct
West_Med19.67 Pct
West_Asian9.93 Pct
East_Med19.29 Pct
Red_Sea-
South_Asian-
East_Asian0.93 Pct
Siberian0.25 Pct
Amerindian0.98 Pct
Oceanian-
Northeast_African-
Sub-Saharan-

Let's ask JohnnyP if this person is also a lost Macedonian :biggrin:

[vbnetkhio]

from Vojvodina

North_AtlanticBalticWest_MedWest_AsianEast_MedRed_ SeaSouth_AsianEast_AsianSiberianAmerindianOceanian Northeast_AfrSub0Saharan
26.3523.9319.289.216.511.172.640.9300.000.000.000. 00
29.1524.3818.115.6517.032.890.6301.730.3100.110
21.7525.4516.8713.0417.591.181.560.70.560.310.220. 140.63
25.8827.5718.127.917.731.240.1700.081.3000
20.2528.4717.628.9820.512.74000.480.760.1200.07
20.8529.261413.9517.611.3600.720.850.420.1600.83

[vbnetkhio]

all ancestry from the Čačak area

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Serbia_%C4%8Ca%C4%8Dak.png

North_Atlantic30.07
Baltic24.8
West_Med18.01
West_Asian9.26
East_Med14.69
Red_Sea1.86
South_Asian0.32
East_Asian0
Siberian0.06
Amerindian0.34
Oceanian0.23
Northeast_Afr0
Sub0Saharan0.36

[CommonSense]

These Vojvodina Serbs are in line with Milenko. Basically southern Serbian results that reflect what we know of their origin from historical sources.

I have to say it's really sad that even some ethnic Serbs took the Croatian bait and believe that those from Vojvodina are 'pure' Serbs while southerners like the ones in Niš and Leskovac are just a bunch mutts.
Fact is that if we discount Srem there's just as many Gypsies in Vojovodina as in the south and plenty more individuals mix with them.

[Dušan]

from Vojvodina

North_AtlanticBalticWest_MedWest_AsianEast_MedRed_ SeaSouth_AsianEast_AsianSiberianAmerindianOceanian Northeast_AfrSub0Saharan
26.3523.9319.289.216.511.172.640.9300.000.000.000. 00
29.1524.3818.115.6517.032.890.6301.730.3100.110
21.7525.4516.8713.0417.591.181.560.70.560.310.220. 140.63
25.8827.5718.127.917.731.240.1700.081.3000
20.2528.4717.628.9820.512.74000.480.760.1200.07
20.8529.261413.9517.611.3600.720.850.420.1600.83


all ancestry from the Čačak area



All in southern half of Serbian autosomal range.

https://i.imgur.com/UhN2zQL.png

[Dušan]

These Vojvodina Serbs are in line with Milenko. Basically southern Serbian results that reflect what we know of their origin from historical sources.

I have to say it's really sad that even some ethnic Serbs took the Croatian bait and believe that those from Vojvodina are 'pure' Serbs while southerners like the ones in Niš and Leskovac are just a bunch mutts.
Fact is that if we discount Srem there's just as many Gypsies in Vojovodina as in the south and plenty more individuals mix with them.

All Serbs are Serbs, there are no "pure" and "non-pure" because of regional origin.

BTW there are Gypsies in Srem, too. I don't understand why are you mentioning them in this topic?

[CommonSense]

All Serbs are Serbs, there are no "pure" and "non-pure" because of regional origin.

BTW there are Gypsies in Srem, too. I don't understand why are you mentioning them in this topic?

Why am I mentioning them? Haven't you seen a bunch of internet comments in the lines of 'white Serbs live in Vojvodina, those from the south are mixed with Gypsies and Turks'!? People comparing Vojvodinians to Croats in pigmentation, etc. Just a bunch of dumb stereotypes really. I'm trying to say that most Serbs from municipalities south of the Danube and Sava rivers have more Slavic DNA than native Vojovdina Serbs and less individuals with exotic admixture.

[MINARDOWICZ]

I am not Serbian but I only missed the sample by A LITTLE. I am not Baltic enough and too North Atlantic... SO CLOSE!

1 North_Atlantic 33.18
2 Baltic 21.21
3 West_Med 17.12
4 East_Med 15.96
5 West_Asian 7.8
6 Red_Sea 2.86
7 Amerindian 0.84
8 South_Asian 0.58
9 Sub-Saharan 0.33
10 Oceanian 0.06
11 Northeast_African 0.05

[MandM]

These Vojvodina Serbs are in line with Milenko. Basically southern Serbian results that reflect what we know of their origin from historical sources.

I have to say it's really sad that even some ethnic Serbs took the Croatian bait and believe that those from Vojvodina are 'pure' Serbs while southerners like the ones in Niš and Leskovac are just a bunch mutts.
Fact is that if we discount Srem there's just as many Gypsies in Vojovodina as in the south and plenty more individuals mix with them.

correect me if i am wrong, but are you saying that I and other from Vojvodina are mixed with Exotic elements??? and does from the south are more "Slavic"

[CommonSense]

correect me if i am wrong, but are you saying that I and other from Vojvodina are mixed with Exotic elements??? and does from the south are more "Slavic"

Not you, obviously, but on average in Vojvodina you will find more people who have exotic admixture but identify as Serbs. And, yes, Serbs from most areas south of the two rivers are somewhat more Slavic, you're about the same as Serbian Torlakian speakers.

[Dušan]

Why am I mentioning them? Haven't you seen a bunch of internet comments in the lines of 'white Serbs live in Vojvodina, those from the south are mixed with Gypsies and Turks'!? People comparing Vojvodinians to Croats in pigmentation, etc. Just a bunch of dumb stereotypes really. I'm trying to say that most Serbs from municipalities south of the Danube and Sava rivers have more Slavic DNA than native Vojovdina Serbs and less individuals with exotic admixture.

These are stupid malicious comments of Croatian trolls, I dont pay attention on that.

Tiny regional difference is more east-west, than north-south, as Krajina and Bosnian Serbs have bit more Slavic share. But that difference will be less and less in next generations, since high rate of marriages of Serbs from different regions.

I dont see any exotic in Vojvodina Serb, neither southern Serbian results.
I am in same line as Milenko and these other two Vojvodina Serbs, only a bit northern shifted.

https://i.imgur.com/tqPmlbV.png

[CommonSense]

These are stupid malicious comments of Croatian trolls, I dont pay attention on that.

Tiny regional difference is more east-west, than north-south, as Krajina and Bosnian Serbs have bit more Slavic share. But that difference will be less and less in next generations, since high rate of marriages of Serbs from different regions.

I dont see any exotic in Vojvodina Serb, neither southern Serbian results.
I am in same line as Milenko and these other two Vojvodina Serbs, only a bit northern shifted.

https://i.imgur.com/tqPmlbV.png

But some Serbs have bought into it, that's the problem. There's a Danish guy who toured most of the countries in Europe and the surrondings in the past few monhts and made a video comparing Serbia and Croatia. He had to reupload it, but the original one had a LOT of comments. Some Serbs wrote a bunch of bullshit how our country has great regional differences, that people from Vojvodina tend to be hardly any different from Croats, while those from the south have darker skin and hair.
Like you I am indifferent to Croats and Bosniaks saying stuff like that, but it really pisses me off to see it come from one of my own people.

[CommonSense]

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[Varda]

But some Serbs have bought into it, that's the problem. There's a Danish guy who toured most of the countries in Europe and the surrondings in the past few monhts and made a video comparing Serbia and Croatia. He had to reupload it, but the original one had a LOT of comments. Some Serbs wrote a bunch of bullshit how our country has great regional differences, that people from Vojvodina tend to be hardly any different from Croats, while those from the south have darker skin and hair.
Like you I am indifferent to Croats and Bosniaks saying stuff like that, but it really pisses me off to see it come from one of my own people.

Among Serbs exist some idiots who say that southern Serbs are Turkish influenced, serbified Bulgarians or mixed with Bulgarians. Those are nonsenses, and should not pay attention to it.

It's not surprise the fact that some native Vojvodinian Serbs are more southern than Serbian average and in the level of southern Serbs. Because large part of native Vojvodinian Serbs are descendants of settlers from Kosovo and SE Serbia (migrations from 16th to 18th century), especially in Banat. I thinks native Serbs of Vojvodina are pretty diverse, because of their deeper origin from various regions from Kumanovo to the Bela Krajina.
I know few examples of native Vojvodinian Serbs who are more northern than Serbian average. For example Delija from Poreklo who is half Banat half Syrmian Serb is significant more northern than current Serbian average.

[Altaylı]

Serbs and bosnians are not Turkish-Turkic influenced they are normal but maybe some small serbian groups are Turkic influenced because of Ottomans or Cuman pecheneg etc.

[Leto]

Two presumable Montenegrins (recent kits)

North_Atlantic 25.17 Pct
Baltic 30.37 Pct
West_Med 15.64 Pct
West_Asian 8.46 Pct
East_Med 15.4 Pct
Red_Sea 2.65 Pct
South_Asian 0.37 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.07 Pct
Oceanian 0.85 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

North_Atlantic 24.75 Pct
Baltic 23.55 Pct
West_Med 19.69 Pct
West_Asian 10.79 Pct
East_Med 17.76 Pct
Red_Sea 2.04 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.07 Pct
Siberian 0.17 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.94 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.23 Pct

[CommonSense]

Serbs and bosnians are not Turkish-Turkic influenced they are normal but maybe some small serbian groups are Turkic influenced because of Ottomans or Cuman pecheneg etc.

Only Romanians have some individuals with Cuman-like influnce. Remember that Tatars live in Romania even to this very day. There are Romanian people like Seya who score 4% Siberian + East Asian. Anywhere else that would be quite an outlier.

[Dušan]

Siberian score is most likely from east Slavs ancestors. Nothing Turkic.
Sungir6 medieval Russian had that, it is nothing unusual.

And interesting, for example, South Asian score K13 of 2.43% is recorded in medieval Lusatian Sorb. I would say Iranic influence.

So nothing exotic if small amount of these components are found today among us.

[Dušan]

Medieval Slavic samples Ukraine Chernigov and Ukraine Lutsk had also Siberian score of 1.2% and 1.6%.

[Altaylı]

Siberian score is most likely from east Slavs ancestors. Nothing Turkic.
Sungir6 medieval Russian had that, it is nothing unusual.

Maybe some Hunnic ancestry?

[Dušan]

Maybe some Hunnic ancestry?

I would say from some Finnic tribes that live near Slavs in east Europe, such as Mordvins, Vepsi etc.

[Altaylı]

I would say from some Finnic tribes that live near Slavs in east Europe, such as Mordvins, Vepsi etc.

yes makes sense.

[Dušan]

My new match from Gedmatch.

Population
North_Atlantic 24.69 Pct
Baltic 32.05 Pct
West_Med 17.12 Pct
West_Asian 8.72 Pct
East_Med 13.88 Pct
Red_Sea 0.58 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.2 Pct
Siberian 0.1 Pct
Amerindian 1.65 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Updated national averages

Distance to: Svetlana
3.62013812 Serb
4.03637213 Moldovan
4.99184335 Croat
7.65175143 Romanian
7.75608148 Hungarian
8.12977859 Montenegrin
9.17598496 Slovenian
10.85931858 Bulgarian
11.18116273 Slovak
13.54416480 NorthMacedonian
13.61208287 Czech
14.39806237 Austrian
17.31114670 Ukrainian
18.78861623 Albanian
19.38449122 Polish
20.52077971 German
21.24899056 Greek
21.58026877 Russian
22.87028203 Belorussian
24.21820803 Italian


Distance to: Svetlana
2.19655872 8.20% Latvian + 91.80% Serb
2.21753297 85.80% Serb + 14.20% Ukrainian
2.23003198 9.40% Lithuanian + 90.60% Serb
2.30454140 12.60% Polish + 87.40% Serb
2.36554604 11.40% Russian + 88.60% Serb
2.39945433 10.60% Belorussian + 89.40% Serb
2.42533268 9.00% Estonian + 91.00% Serb
2.63707548 81.40% Serb + 18.60% Slovak
2.66711955 48.00% Albanian + 52.00% Ukrainian
2.66812697 69.00% Montenegrin + 31.00% Ukrainian
2.67704087 59.20% NorthMacedonian + 40.80% Polish
2.67784356 19.40% Latvian + 80.60% Montenegrin
2.71194826 8.00% Finnish + 92.00% Serb
2.73368137 36.20% Croat + 63.80% Serb
2.74297286 59.80% Albanian + 40.20% Lithuanian
2.78586832 21.60% Lithuanian + 78.40% Montenegrin
2.80199055 56.40% NorthMacedonian + 43.60% Ukrainian
2.81195910 50.80% Albanian + 49.20% Polish
2.83487185 32.40% Lithuanian + 67.60% NorthMacedonian
2.84827346 27.00% Polish + 73.00% Romanian

[Varda]

My new match from Gedmatch.

Population
North_Atlantic 24.69 Pct
Baltic 32.05 Pct
West_Med 17.12 Pct
West_Asian 8.72 Pct
East_Med 13.88 Pct
Red_Sea 0.58 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.2 Pct
Siberian 0.1 Pct
Amerindian 1.65 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Updated national averages

Distance to: Svetlana
3.62013812 Serb
4.03637213 Moldovan
4.99184335 Croat
7.65175143 Romanian
7.75608148 Hungarian
8.12977859 Montenegrin
9.17598496 Slovenian
10.85931858 Bulgarian
11.18116273 Slovak
13.54416480 NorthMacedonian
13.61208287 Czech
14.39806237 Austrian
17.31114670 Ukrainian
18.78861623 Albanian
19.38449122 Polish
20.52077971 German
21.24899056 Greek
21.58026877 Russian
22.87028203 Belorussian
24.21820803 Italian


Distance to: Svetlana
2.19655872 8.20% Latvian + 91.80% Serb
2.21753297 85.80% Serb + 14.20% Ukrainian
2.23003198 9.40% Lithuanian + 90.60% Serb
2.30454140 12.60% Polish + 87.40% Serb
2.36554604 11.40% Russian + 88.60% Serb
2.39945433 10.60% Belorussian + 89.40% Serb
2.42533268 9.00% Estonian + 91.00% Serb
2.63707548 81.40% Serb + 18.60% Slovak
2.66711955 48.00% Albanian + 52.00% Ukrainian
2.66812697 69.00% Montenegrin + 31.00% Ukrainian
2.67704087 59.20% NorthMacedonian + 40.80% Polish
2.67784356 19.40% Latvian + 80.60% Montenegrin
2.71194826 8.00% Finnish + 92.00% Serb
2.73368137 36.20% Croat + 63.80% Serb
2.74297286 59.80% Albanian + 40.20% Lithuanian
2.78586832 21.60% Lithuanian + 78.40% Montenegrin
2.80199055 56.40% NorthMacedonian + 43.60% Ukrainian
2.81195910 50.80% Albanian + 49.20% Polish
2.83487185 32.40% Lithuanian + 67.60% NorthMacedonian
2.84827346 27.00% Polish + 73.00% Romanian

Do you know where she is from?

[Dušan]

Do you know where she is from?

According to surname, probably from this village.
https://www.poreklo.rs/2018/06/04/poreklo-prezimena-selo-bribir-skradin/

But it could be surname of her husband...

[Varda]

According to surname, probably from this village.
https://www.poreklo.rs/2018/06/04/poreklo-prezimena-selo-bribir-skradin/

But it could be surname of her husband...

I know two families from Bribir (Bijelić and Stevelić).

Most of your matches are Krajina Serbs right?

[WeirdLookingFellow]

from Vojvodina

[table]North_AtlanticBalticWest_MedWest_AsianEast_MedRed_ SeaSouth_AsianEast_AsianSiberianAmerindianOceanian Northeast_AfrSub0Saharan

29.1524.3818.115.6517.032.890.6301.730.3100.110


Very close to mine, somewhat, though I lack the Red Sea.
North_Atlantic 28.06 Pct
Baltic 24.76 Pct
West_Med 17.53 Pct
West_Asian 6.52 Pct
East_Med 18.76 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.1 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.37 Pct
Amerindian 1.36 Pct
Oceanian 0.22 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.32 Pct

[Dušan]

Very close to mine, somewhat, though I lack the Red Sea.
North_Atlantic 28.06 Pct
Baltic 24.76 Pct
West_Med 17.53 Pct
West_Asian 6.52 Pct
East_Med 18.76 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.1 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.37 Pct
Amerindian 1.36 Pct
Oceanian 0.22 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.32 Pct

No surprise since we are closest to each other in terms of autosomal genetics.

https://i.imgur.com/vvTyjfJ.png

https://i.imgur.com/3nWZUNb.png


I have very simmilar percentage like forum member Zmey Gorinich.

[Varda]

No surprise since we are closest to each other in terms of autosomal genetics.

https://i.imgur.com/vvTyjfJ.png

https://i.imgur.com/3nWZUNb.png


I have very simmilar percentage like forum member Zmey Gorinich.

Where are Bosniaks?

[vbnetkhio]

2 results from the Poreklo forum

Варићак, Босанска Крајина, I2-PH908

North_Atlantic 24.96
Baltic 28.39
West_Med 16.70
West_Asian 11.83
East_Med 15.89
Red_Sea 0.35
South_Asian 0.84
East_Asian 0.38
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.67
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -


Нанић, Жегар, Северна Далмација, I2-S17250

North_Atlantic 22.44
Baltic 27.42
West_Med 18.63
West_Asian 8.70
East_Med 19.44
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.23
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.60
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.54
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[Geni_kameni]

Where are Bosniaks?

odakle si ti decko? vojvodina?

[OrdinaryWorld]

Dear Vlach Gypsy, I have a tithes of Serbian kits. I don't have permission to show all them publically. I gave some kits to certain members on pm these days.

Opinion of Pashtun living in New York about Serbian genetic is not important.

You are also Vlach, something like half of your genome so shut up

[OrdinaryWorld]

..


Serbs from Krajina are onorary Vlachs and Thracians. Do you know that?

[OrdinaryWorld]

No surprise since we are closest to each other in terms of autosomal genetics.

https://i.imgur.com/vvTyjfJ.png

https://i.imgur.com/3nWZUNb.png


I have very simmilar percentage like forum member Zmey Gorinich.

You are dumb. You are Daco-Thracian embrace your vlachness

[Mortimer]

Here is how much i differ from average of serbs...

Population
North_Atlantic 16.82 Pct
Baltic 16.39 Pct
West_Med 15.92 Pct
West_Asian 15.35 Pct
East_Med 15 Pct
Red_Sea 2.7 Pct
South_Asian 13.19 Pct
East_Asian 1.77 Pct
Siberian 0.87 Pct
Amerindian 0.51 Pct
Oceanian 1.12 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.37 Pct

[MandM]

Here is how much i differ from average of serbs...

Population
North_Atlantic 16.82 Pct
Baltic 16.39 Pct
West_Med 15.92 Pct
West_Asian 15.35 Pct
East_Med 15 Pct
Red_Sea 2.7 Pct
South_Asian 13.19 Pct
East_Asian 1.77 Pct
Siberian 0.87 Pct
Amerindian 0.51 Pct
Oceanian 1.12 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.37 Pct

Well you have about the same East_Med as the average Serb, if am not correct allways somthing