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dududud
03-03-2020, 01:44 PM
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/10/2/1583246597-halffrenchporto.png



# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 44.59
2 West_Med 22.08
3 Baltic 15.24
4 East_Med 10.22
5 Red_Sea 2.47
6 West_Asian 2.31
7 Sub-Saharan 1.39
8 Northeast_African 0.77
9 East_Asian 0.49
10 Oceanian 0.29
11 Amerindian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 4.64
2 Spanish_Cataluna 5.91
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.76
4 Spanish_Galicia 7.59
5 Portuguese 7.74
6 Spanish_Cantabria 7.78
7 Southwest_French 8.45
8 Spanish_Murcia 8.46
9 Spanish_Valencia 8.6
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 8.74
11 Spanish_Extremadura 9.31
12 South_Dutch 9.61
13 Spanish_Aragon 9.66
14 West_German 10.43
15 Spanish_Andalucia 10.81
16 Southeast_English 12.75
17 Southwest_English 13.01
18 North_Italian 15.1
19 Orcadian 15.18
20 West_Scottish 15.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 34.3% Southeast_English @ 1.41
2 69.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 30.4% Orcadian @ 1.53
3 66.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 33.7% Southwest_English @ 1.57
4 70.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 29.4% West_Scottish @ 1.6
5 70.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 29.1% Irish @ 1.72
6 71.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 28.4% North_Dutch @ 1.72
7 74.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 25.6% Norwegian @ 1.75
8 60.9% Spanish_Murcia + 39.1% Southwest_English @ 1.75
9 72.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 27.9% Danish @ 1.86
10 63.2% Portuguese + 36.8% Southwest_English @ 1.9
11 60.5% Spanish_Murcia + 39.5% Southeast_English @ 1.9
12 64.6% Spanish_Murcia + 35.4% Orcadian @ 1.95
13 69.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 30.2% Southwest_English @ 2.04
14 65.7% Spanish_Murcia + 34.3% West_Scottish @ 2.05
15 74% Spanish_Cataluna + 26% West_Scottish @ 2.07
16 65.9% Spanish_Murcia + 34.1% Irish @ 2.07
17 69.8% Spanish_Murcia + 30.2% Norwegian @ 2.09
18 66.7% Spanish_Murcia + 33.3% North_Dutch @ 2.1
19 73.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 26.8% Orcadian @ 2.13
20 60.6% Spanish_Valencia + 39.4% Southwest_English @ 2.17



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 30.34
2 North_Sea 27.09
3 West_Med 17.26
4 East_Med 6.76
5 Baltic 5.79
6 Eastern_Euro 5.55
7 Red_Sea 2.58
8 West_Asian 2.22
9 Northeast_African 1.28
10 Sub-Saharan 1
11 Oceanian 0.08
12 Southeast_Asian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 5.44
2 Spanish_Cataluna 6.48
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 7.56
4 Spanish_Galicia 7.68
5 Portuguese 7.78
6 Spanish_Murcia 8.5
7 Spanish_Extremadura 8.66
8 Spanish_Cantabria 8.8
9 South_Dutch 9
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 10.06
11 Spanish_Valencia 10.29
12 Southwest_French 10.39
13 Spanish_Aragon 10.75
14 Southwest_English 11.01
15 Spanish_Andalucia 12.11
16 West_German 12.26
17 Southeast_English 12.29
18 North_Italian 14.24
19 Irish 14.33
20 North_German 14.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.7% Spanish_Murcia + 43.3% Southwest_English @ 2.07
2 65.2% Spanish_Murcia + 34.8% Orcadian @ 2.13
3 64.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 35.3% Orcadian @ 2.15
4 66.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 33.5% West_Norwegian @ 2.15
5 56.3% Spanish_Extremadura + 43.7% Southwest_English @ 2.2
6 63.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 36.3% West_Scottish @ 2.25
7 61.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 38.9% Orcadian @ 2.27
8 59.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 40.9% Southeast_English @ 2.28
9 64.3% Spanish_Murcia + 35.7% West_Scottish @ 2.43
10 68.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 31.8% Orcadian @ 2.44
11 59.7% Spanish_Murcia + 40.3% Southeast_English @ 2.45
12 63% Spanish_Extremadura + 37% Irish @ 2.47
13 52.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 47.6% Southwest_English @ 2.49
14 72.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 27.9% Orcadian @ 2.59
15 56.5% Spanish_Andalucia + 43.5% Orcadian @ 2.63
16 65.2% Spanish_Aragon + 34.8% West_Norwegian @ 2.63
17 63.6% Spanish_Murcia + 36.4% Irish @ 2.67
18 60.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 39.8% Southwest_English @ 2.68
19 64.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 35.3% Orcadian @ 2.72
20 66.7% Portuguese + 33.3% West_Scottish @ 2.73




Population
Amerindian 0.08 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian 1.69 Pct
Basque 4.77 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.16 Pct
East_African 0.91 Pct
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.00 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.37 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 2.95 Pct
Fennoscandian 0.63 Pct
French 5.07 Pct
Iberian 25.68 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 11.24 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.57 Pct
North_African 3.21 Pct
North_Atlantic 11.06 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 14.20 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.18 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.34 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 3.87 Pct

Tenma de Pegasus
03-03-2020, 02:14 PM
It does not change so much, higher north euro just make him a more pan western version of SW europeans.

dududud
03-03-2020, 02:15 PM
It does not change so much, higher north euro just make him a more pan western version of SW europeans.

What do you means, my camarade Kooper ?

Voskos
03-03-2020, 02:16 PM
Could you please post MDLP K16?

Tenma de Pegasus
03-03-2020, 02:21 PM
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/10/2/1583246597-halffrenchporto.png



Pct

The person still plot around Aragon and Cantabria which is not a big change, but still something interesting since we can see red color around Lisbon, Madrid and Paris when the rest of western Europe is orange. Very pan western result.

dududud
03-03-2020, 02:23 PM
Could you please post MDLP K16?

# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 32.14
2 Steppe 21.27
3 Caucasian 19.84
4 NorthEastEuropean 19.37
5 NorthAfrican 3.15
6 NearEast 1.73
7 EastAfrican 0.8
8 Amerindian 0.51
9 Ancestor 0.46
10 Australian 0.38
11 Siberian 0.19
12 Oceanic 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Provencal (Provence) 4.56
2 French (NorthwestFrance) 4.82
3 French (France) 4.83
4 French (EastFrance) 4.97
5 Spanish (Spain) 5.03
6 German (Germany) 5.56
7 Spanish (Baleares) 6.28
8 Spanish (Extremadura) 6.71
9 Portuguese (Portugal) 6.9
10 French (WestFrance) 7.15
11 Spanish (Galicia) 7.26
12 Spanish (Cataluna) 7.4
13 Welsh (Wales) 7.6
14 Scottish (Grampian) 7.68
15 Scottish (Fife) 8.1
16 English (England) 8.13
17 Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) 8.14
18 Irish (Leinster) 8.17
19 Spanish (Murcia) 8.18
20 English (Kent) 8.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.2% Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) + 45.8% Croat (Croatia) @ 1.94
2 86.4% French (France) + 13.6% Jew (Morocco) @ 2
3 85.9% French (France) + 14.1% Jew (Algeria) @ 2.02
4 54.9% Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) + 45.1% Croat (Bosnia-Herzegovina) @ 2.1
5 55.7% Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) + 44.3% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) @ 2.13
6 88.3% French (France) + 11.7% Jew (Libya) @ 2.17
7 54.8% Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) + 45.2% Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) @ 2.17
8 85.8% French (France) + 14.2% Jew (Italian) @ 2.24
9 53.6% Spanish (Castilla_la_Mancha) + 46.4% Moldavian (Molodva) @ 2.26
10 83.7% French (France) + 16.3% Maltese (Malta) @ 2.32
11 83.6% French (France) + 16.4% Italian (SouthItaly) @ 2.42
12 83.3% French (France) + 16.7% Sicilian (Sicily) @ 2.43
13 89.9% French (France) + 10.1% Samaritan (Israel) @ 2.43
14 90% French (France) + 10% Arab_Israel (Iqrit) @ 2.45
15 58.5% Spanish (Baleares) + 41.5% Irish (Cork_Kerry) @ 2.48
16 70.8% Moldavian (Molodva) + 29.2% Basque (France) @ 2.48
17 65.8% Spanish (Baleares) + 34.2% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2.5
18 52% Provencal (Provence) + 48% French (France) @ 2.5
19 62.8% Moldavian (Molodva) + 37.2% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.5
20 89.8% French (France) + 10.2% Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) @ 2.52

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-03-2020, 02:24 PM
Oddly I get more affinity with French regions than someone who is half-French on the K36 similarity percentage map.

https://s15.postimg.cc/loj4dm3nv/Opera_Instant_neo_2018-06-05_151749_gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr.png

dududud
03-03-2020, 02:36 PM
Oddly I get more affinity with French regions than someone who is half-French on the K36 similarity percentage map.

https://s15.postimg.cc/loj4dm3nv/Opera_Instant_neo_2018-06-05_151749_gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr.png


Depend the french admixture, the area and the portuguse. Some portuguese are more "catalan shifted", right?

Leto
03-03-2020, 02:42 PM
Half Southern French?

dududud
03-03-2020, 02:54 PM
Half Southern French?

I'm going to ask, but I guess so

dududud
03-03-2020, 02:55 PM
Half Southern French?

I'm going to ask, but I guess so

dududud
03-03-2020, 03:09 PM
I'm going to ask, but I guess so

The answer: "its French part is from the north but I think he has an Italian ancestor"

dududud
03-03-2020, 03:55 PM
The answer: "its French part is from the north but I think he has an Italian ancestor"

French part: Bourgogne + Eastern Bretagne

Jana
03-03-2020, 04:03 PM
Antoine Griezmann should have similar scores considering his ancestry, right?

dududud
03-03-2020, 04:04 PM
Antoine Griezmann should have similar scores considering his ancestry, right?

It depends where clust the French and Portuguese part.

But I guess yes, it could

gixajo
03-03-2020, 04:10 PM
Oddly I get more affinity with French regions than someone who is half-French on the K36 similarity percentage map.

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But, all of your ancestors were from Portugal?

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-03-2020, 04:23 PM
But, all of your ancestors were from Portugal?

All of my ancestors are native Portuguese from a small little town.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-03-2020, 04:24 PM
Antoine Griezmann should have similar scores considering his ancestry, right?

Griezmann is half-German\half-Portuguese.

Leto
03-03-2020, 04:29 PM
French part: Bourgogne + Eastern Bretagne
So very Western (both sides).

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-03-2020, 04:32 PM
Depend the french admixture, the area and the portuguse. Some portuguese are more "catalan shifted", right?

Probably but it is only on the K36 similarity map that I am closer to the French average. In all the other calculators this guys is closer to France than I am.

Jana
03-03-2020, 04:35 PM
Griezmann is half-German\half-Portuguese.

Yes, but I think his German origin is rather distant. His father has French name.

Leto
03-03-2020, 04:36 PM
I think France has assimilated many people from neighboring countries like Italy, Spain, Alsace, etc.

gixajo
03-03-2020, 04:43 PM
Probably but it is only on the K36 similarity map that I am closer to the French average. In all the other calculators this guys is closer to France than I am.

I use to score also in France in some eurogenes ks, but not so much as you, and only South West France, what is quite logic.

https://i.imgur.com/7ukL8Qv.png

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-03-2020, 04:45 PM
I use to score also in France in some eurogenes ks, but not so much as you, and only South West France, what is quite logic.

https://i.imgur.com/7ukL8Qv.png

It is not really uncommon for Portugueses. You can check several results here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?247121-Portuguese-K36-Similarity-Tool-Results

gixajo
03-03-2020, 05:26 PM
It is not really uncommon for Portugueses. You can check several results here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?247121-Portuguese-K36-Similarity-Tool-Results

Specially for North and coastal people of Portugal, I guess due to the Atlantic connection. Same with Galicia and Spanish western Cantabric coast. Is´t it?

But no so much as you I think. We have some cases also among Spanish members of the forum that score high in Northwest Europe. Not my case, I quite "Iberian", except the paternal haplogroup.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
03-03-2020, 06:37 PM
Specially for North and coastal people of Portugal, I guess due to the Atlantic connection. Same with Galicia and Spanish western Cantabric coast. Is´t it?

But no so much as you I think. We have some cases also among Spanish members of the forum that score high in Northwest Europe. Not my case, I quite "Iberian", except the paternal haplogroup.

Portugal doesn't have significant regional differences so it doesn't really work like that. We are probably one of the most homogeneous nations in Europe. I am from Beira-Baixa (Center).

Galicians and Portuguese usually have the least Basque related ancestry in the peninsula, which might explain the proximity levels to other regions like France and North Italy whereas other Spaniards tend to be more confined to the Peninsula. This isn't a rule though and it always depends on the individual and the specicifities of a particular calculator.

gixajo
03-03-2020, 07:14 PM
Portugal doesn't have significant regional differences so it doesn't really work like that. We are probably one of the most homogeneous nations in Europe. I am from Beira-Baixa (Center).

Galicians and Portuguese usually have the least Basque related ancestry in the peninsula, which might explain the proximity levels to other regions like France and North Italy whereas other Spaniards tend to be more confined to the Peninsula. This isn't a rule though and it always depends on the individual and the specicifities of a particular calculator.

I see your portuguese k36 maps thread, I don´t know if we have a similar thread only with Spanish K36 maps, It will be interesting.

I don´t think those maps can show the homogeneity of any country population, but you could be right . It´s quite strange because in Portugal, same as in Spain, we had a lot of different phenotypes .