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Dušan
03-11-2020, 05:56 PM
Inspired by Ion Basesculs thread, I created similar calculator but with a bit different sources
Insert into SOURCE of Eurogenes K13 in vahaduo:
Early_Slavic,27.94,46.57,12.08,4.33,4.39,0.61,0.25 ,0,2.08,0.99,0.29,0.48,0
Paleo-Balkan,20.04,10.42,27.95,11.31,26.06,2.43,0,0,0.64 ,0.88,0.29,0,0
Celto-Germanic,44.38,27.72,14.32,3.47,5.80,0.19,1.07,0.6 6,0,1.37,0.74,0,0.33
Early_Slavic = average value of Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian and AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD
Paleo-Balkan = average value of MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian and I5769_Iron_Age_Bulgaria
Celto-Germanic = average value of SZ30_szolad_hungary_longobard_600th_AD and Hallstatt_Celt_DA112_Bylany_Czechia
My result:
https://i.imgur.com/4hkgNxb.jpg
Some national averages:
https://i.imgur.com/5Ujwko0.jpg
Try it for yourself! :)
Bosniensis
03-11-2020, 05:57 PM
Šta se unosi u tabelu, K3 ... šta je to Gedrosia?
Dušan
03-11-2020, 05:58 PM
Šta se unosi u tabelu, K3 ... šta je to Gedrosia?
Eurogenes K13
Bosniensis
03-11-2020, 06:05 PM
Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 4.3126% / 4.31257529
48.8 Early_Slavic
45.4 Paleo-Balkan
5.8 Celto-Germanic
I've added then Greek_Thessaly
Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 2.2411% / 2.24109384
52.0 Greek_Thessaly
37.0 Early_Slavic
11.0 Celto-Germanic
With Peloponnese
Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 2.1033% / 2.10327329
46.0 GR_Peloponese
38.4 Early_Slavic
12.0 Celto-Germanic
3.6 Paleo-Balkan
with Albanian input:
Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 3.2869% / 3.28693330
54.8 Albanian
37.4 Early_Slavic
7.8 Celto-Germanic
I am closer to Greeks than Albanians for some reason.
WeirdLookingFellow
03-11-2020, 06:25 PM
Target: Fellow
Distance: 4.9894% / 4.98937209
49.6 Paleo-Balkan
28.2 Early_Slavic
22.2 Celto-Germanic
Target: FellowGF
Distance: 3.7450% / 3.74499706
55.8 Paleo-Balkan
44.2 Early_Slavic
Dušan
03-11-2020, 06:29 PM
Target: Fellow
Distance: 4.9894% / 4.98937209
49.6 Paleo-Balkan
28.2 Early_Slavic
22.2 Celto-Germanic
Target: FellowGF
Distance: 3.7450% / 3.74499706
55.8 Paleo-Balkan
44.2 Early_Slavic
Interesting. You got a lot of Celto-Germanic admixture.
Cool calc :)
Target: Feiichy
Distance: 5.5712% / 5.57119250
50.4 Early_Slavic
26.8 Paleo-Balkan
22.8 Celto-Germanic
Dušan
03-11-2020, 06:41 PM
Cool calc :)
Target: Feiichy
Distance: 5.5712% / 5.57119250
50.4 Early_Slavic
26.8 Paleo-Balkan
22.8 Celto-Germanic
Maybe I should add some 4th component or distance 5-6% is ok?
Me mom
Target: Mother
Distance: 3.2907% / 3.29066092
79.0 Celto-Germanic
10.8 Paleo-Balkan
10.2 Early_Slavic
Dušan
03-11-2020, 06:46 PM
Me mom
Target: Mother
Distance: 3.2907% / 3.29066092
79.0 Celto-Germanic
10.8 Paleo-Balkan
10.2 Early_Slavic
Close distance. Nice :)
My calculator works.
Maybe I should add some 4th component or distance 5-6% is ok?
Oh, ignore my distance, I always have it high, must be inbred islander thing or something xD
Your calc is fine.
Nurzat
03-11-2020, 06:49 PM
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 515.1814% / 5.15181355
57.0 Early_Slavic
38.4 Paleo-Balkan
4.6 Celto-Germanic
Voskos
03-11-2020, 06:50 PM
Oh, ignore my distance, I always have it high, must be inbred islander thing or something xD
Your calc is fine.
do you happen to have any results from croatian islands?I'd be curious to see them.
WeirdLookingFellow
03-11-2020, 06:56 PM
Interesting. You got a lot of Celto-Germanic admixture.
It's sometimes exacerbated because it tends to steal from the Slavic one. I think 1/8th West German fits the overall idea.
do you happen to have any results from croatian islands?I'd be curious to see them.
Only23andme from full Islanders, in general they get very high Eastern European, higher than mainland Croats close to coasts (who score higher Balkan)
nittionia
03-11-2020, 07:19 PM
Spicy
https://i.imgur.com/gHA6WsD.png
Impaler
03-11-2020, 07:19 PM
This calculator is not for me. I have 12.5 distance. :D
Dušan
03-11-2020, 07:21 PM
This calculator is not for me. I have 12.5 distance. :D
Sorry :p
Bessarion
03-11-2020, 09:49 PM
Target: bojan
Distance: 582.0198% / 5.82019790
36.8 Early_Slavic
36.4 Celto-Germanic
26.8 Paleo-Balkan
Bessarion
03-11-2020, 09:50 PM
double
celticdragongod
03-11-2020, 10:11 PM
Distance to: CDG
7.62244055 Celto-Germanic
30.63884789 Early_Slavic
43.91702517 Paleo-Balkan
Target: CDG
Distance: 7.6224% / 7.62244055 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Celto-Germanic
Target: CDG
Distance: 7.6224% / 7.62244055 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Celto-Germanic
Target: CDG
Distance: 7.6224% / 7.62244055 | ADC: 0.5x
100.0 Celto-Germanic
Target: CDG
Distance: 7.6224% / 7.62244055 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Celto-Germanic
Target: CDG
Distance: 7.6224% / 7.62244055
100.0 Celto-Germanic
Coastal Elite
03-11-2020, 10:21 PM
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
ADC: 0.25x
74.0 Celto-Germanic
26.0 Paleo-Balkan
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
72.8 Celto-Germanic
27.2 Paleo-Balkan
Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
12.52390913 Celto-Germanic
29.44245574 Paleo-Balkan
31.51222779 Early_Slavic
Distance: 7.7900% / 7.79003974
67.2 Paleo-Balkan
32.8 Early_Slavic
paradox
03-12-2020, 01:54 AM
Target:
Distance: 11.4941% / 11.49408406
76.6 Paleo-Balkan
23.4 Early_Slavic
My father's
Target: Father
Distance: 6.2559% / 6.25592738
55.8 Paleo-Balkan
31.0 Early_Slavic
13.2 Celto-Germanic
IrisSelene
03-12-2020, 02:26 AM
dude why the hell am i so germanic and barely balkan :picard2:
Distance to: IrisSelene
22.19978604 Early_Slavic
27.69487498 Celto-Germanic
27.84084410 Paleo-Balkan
56.6 Early_Slavic
43.4 Paleo-Balkan
wait what the hell, germanic totally disappeared on the single one lol
Distance: 7.7900% / 7.79003974
67.2 Paleo-Balkan
32.8 Early_Slavic
Target:
Distance: 11.4941% / 11.49408406
76.6 Paleo-Balkan
23.4 Early_Slavic
Interesting. You're both very sexy and have similar results.
Interesting. You're both very sexy and have similar results.
It’s the paleo balkan admixture
Dušan
03-12-2020, 05:53 PM
I added new component - Hellenic.
Hellenic = average value of GreekNeolithic_Kleitos_4230–3995 and Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi.
Early_Slavic,27.94,46.57,12.08,4.33,4.39,0.61,0.25 ,0,2.08,0.99,0.29,0.48,0
Paleo-Balkan,20.04,10.42,27.95,11.31,26.06,2.43,0,0,0.64 ,0.88,0.29,0,0
Celto-Germanic,44.38,27.72,14.32,3.47,5.80,0.19,1.07,0.6 6,0,1.37,0.74,0,0.33
Hellenic,11.56,0,41.77,2.87,38.92,4.32,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0.59
And I have it! :joy
https://i.imgur.com/fWe2P4R.jpg
I am so proud having that admixture. Its not Thracian or Ilyrian, but pure Hellenic.
Target: Ford
Distance: 223.9751% / 2.23975136
59.6 Early_Slavic
39.2 Paleo-Balkan
1.2 Celto-Germanic
No difference with or without Hellenic.
Kaspias
03-12-2020, 05:57 PM
Turkic admixture removed
Target: Kaspias
Distance: 11.8705% / 11.87052781
66.6 Paleo-Balkan
33.4 Early_Slavic
Target: Kaspias_Cousin
Distance: 6.2787% / 6.27873439
78.6 Paleo-Balkan
19.8 Early_Slavic
1.6 Celto-Germanic
Dušan
03-12-2020, 06:00 PM
Turkic admixture removed
Target: Kaspias
Distance: 11.8705% / 11.87052781
66.6 Paleo-Balkan
33.4 Early_Slavic
Target: Kaspias_Cousin
Distance: 6.2787% / 6.27873439
78.6 Paleo-Balkan
19.8 Early_Slavic
1.6 Celto-Germanic
Don't get anу Hellenic?
Maybe it is hard to distinguish in calculator from paleo-balkan.
Bosniensis
03-12-2020, 06:04 PM
Gedmatch doesn't work atm so I can't check my K13
Kaspias
03-12-2020, 06:15 PM
Don't get anу Hellenic?
Maybe it is hard to distinguish in calculator from paleo-balkan.
We haven't got it
JohnnyP
03-12-2020, 06:47 PM
Target: johnnyp
Distance: 619.3226% / 6.19322596
55.4 Paleo-Balkan
39.1 Early_Slavic
4.4 Hellenic
1.1 Celto-Germanic
Voskos
03-12-2020, 07:38 PM
Target: voskos
Distance: 1220.1311% / 12.20131140 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Paleo-Balkan
Target: voskos
Distance: 1220.1311% / 12.20131140 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Paleo-Balkan
Target: voskos
Distance: 1220.1311% / 12.20131140 | ADC: 0.5x
100.0 Paleo-Balkan
Target: voskos
Distance: 1220.1311% / 12.20131140 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Paleo-Balkan
Target: voskos
Distance: 1220.1311% / 12.20131140
100.0 Paleo-Balkan
Dušan
03-12-2020, 07:49 PM
Target: voskos
Distance: 1220.1311% / 12.20131140 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Paleo-Balkan
Target: voskos
Distance: 1220.1311% / 12.20131140 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Paleo-Balkan
Target: voskos
Distance: 1220.1311% / 12.20131140 | ADC: 0.5x
100.0 Paleo-Balkan
Target: voskos
Distance: 1220.1311% / 12.20131140 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Paleo-Balkan
Target: voskos
Distance: 1220.1311% / 12.20131140
100.0 Paleo-Balkan
Hmmm no Hellenic?
These two I used
Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi,10.42,0,38.95,5.73,41.5,3.4, 0,0,0,0,0,0,0
GreekNeolithic_Kleitos_4230–3995,12.69,0,44.56,0,3 6.34,5.24,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.17
First one is from your island. :)
Voskos
03-12-2020, 07:53 PM
Hmmm no Hellenic?First one is from your island. :)
strange.my distance is also huge.
paradox
03-12-2020, 08:01 PM
No change with Hellenic which is odd as my mum's from Crete.
Distance: 11.4941% / 11.49408406
76.6 Paleo-Balkan
23.4 Early_Slavic
My father's
Target: Father
Distance: 6.2559% / 6.25592738
55.8 Paleo-Balkan
31.0 Early_Slavic
13.2 Celto-Germanic
Dušan
03-12-2020, 08:15 PM
Very strange. Greek citizens dont get this component, but this North Macedonian guy and me got a bit of that.
andre
03-12-2020, 09:38 PM
Target: K13
Distance: 7.6430% / 7.64296572 | ADC: 0.25x
50.0 Early_Slavic
50.0 Paleo-Balkan
Dušan
03-12-2020, 09:39 PM
Target: K13
Distance: 7.6430% / 7.64296572 | ADC: 0.25x
50.0 Early_Slavic
50.0 Paleo-Balkan
Cool :cool:
17571imre
03-13-2020, 04:43 PM
Target: mh
Distance: 2.6536% / 2.65364478
36.6 Celto-Germanic
36.4 Paleo-Balkan
27.0 Early_Slavic
Dušan
03-13-2020, 04:51 PM
Target: mh
Distance: 2.6536% / 2.65364478
36.6 Celto-Germanic
36.4 Paleo-Balkan
27.0 Early_Slavic
Nice.
Very low distance, so this calculator is good for central Europe too.
Vojnik
03-14-2020, 03:16 AM
I must be doing something wrong.
<tbody>
Target
Distance
Early_Slavic
Paleo-Balkan
Celto-Germanic
24.02
20.36152940
•
26.8
49.0
24.2
Average
20.36152940
•
26.8
49.0
24.2
</tbody>
Vojnik
03-14-2020, 03:18 AM
I put all the information in the Eurogenes K13 Ancient calculator in Vahaduo. Is that correct?
paradox
03-14-2020, 06:37 AM
I put all the information in the Eurogenes K13 Ancient calculator in Vahaduo. Is that correct?
Yes and your results look fine. Did you also try the calculator with the Hellenic component added, on post #28 ?
Vojnik
03-14-2020, 06:52 AM
Yes and your results look fine. Did you also try the calculator with the Hellenic component added, on post #28 ?
Yes I tried the Hellenic one. But nothing there.
Im surprised how much Celtic Germanic I get. But then again it’s giving me a high distance, so the calculator maybe isn’t for me.
Dušan
03-14-2020, 06:55 AM
I put all the information in the Eurogenes K13 Ancient calculator in Vahaduo. Is that correct?
Please, post your K13 result here.
I will try to do.
Vojnik
03-14-2020, 07:05 AM
Please, post your K13 result here.
I will try to do.
Ok. Here they are. Thanks.
<tbody>
Population
North_Atlantic
24.02 Pct
Baltic
22.65 Pct
West_Med
17.23 Pct
West_Asian
11.73 Pct
East_Med
19.19 Pct
Red_Sea
4.33 Pct
South_Asian
-
East_Asian
-
Siberian
-
Amerindian
0.72 Pct
Oceanian
-
Northeast_African
0.07 Pct
Sub-Saharan
-
</tbody>
Dušan
03-14-2020, 07:08 AM
Ok. Here they are. Thanks.
<tbody>
Population
North_Atlantic
24.02 Pct
Baltic
22.65 Pct
West_Med
17.23 Pct
West_Asian
11.73 Pct
East_Med
19.19 Pct
Red_Sea
4.33 Pct
South_Asian
-
East_Asian
-
Siberian
-
Amerindian
0.72 Pct
Oceanian
-
Northeast_African
0.07 Pct
Sub-Saharan
-
</tbody>
Here :)
https://i.imgur.com/tgumFJl.jpg
Vojnik
03-14-2020, 07:32 AM
Here :)
https://i.imgur.com/tgumFJl.jpg
Ahh there you go. That’s a better distance. And more reasonable. Cheers.
paradox
03-14-2020, 07:33 AM
Yes I tried the Hellenic one. But nothing there.
Im surprised how much Celtic Germanic I get. But then again it’s giving me a high distance, so the calculator maybe isn’t for me.
Ah yes I didn't notice the high distance
CommonSense
03-14-2020, 05:31 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Tmnhf6P.png
https://i.imgur.com/9MO6zjs.png
SerbianEagle
01-31-2024, 12:19 AM
Why i have that much Celto-Germanic? Can someone explain please ? My results with ; Paleo-Balkanic, Celto-Germanic and Early-Slavic:
126500
MandM
01-31-2024, 05:46 AM
Target: M&M
Distance: 418.8821% / 4.18882101
60.6 Paleo-Balkan
39.4 Early_Slavic
MandM
01-31-2024, 05:51 AM
Why i have that much Celto-Germanic? Can someone explain please ? My results with ; Paleo-Balkanic, Celto-Germanic and Early-Slavic:
126500
Could be the the lack of surces, and then the calculator have to take somthing to fel the gap, and Celtic was the closest, could be that Celtic coords are maby a mix of si thing that you are close to, could be allt of reasons why you got it
Nurzat
01-31-2024, 06:37 AM
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 515.1814% / 5.15181355
57.0 Early_Slavic
38.4 Paleo-Balkan
4.6 Celto-Germanic
Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 741.9492% / 7.41949223
66.6 Early_Slavic
33.4 Paleo-Balkan
Target: Nurzat_mom
Distance: 557.2983% / 5.57298299
51.0 Early_Slavic
41.6 Paleo-Balkan
7.4 Celto-Germanic
Dušan
01-31-2024, 07:12 AM
Why i have that much Celto-Germanic? Can someone explain please ? My results with ; Paleo-Balkanic, Celto-Germanic and Early-Slavic:
126500
K13 calc is outdated.
Get G25 coordinates from Illustrative DNA for precise results.
Mortimer
01-31-2024, 07:58 AM
Here is how i differ from serbs (higher distances)
Distance to: Mortimer
22.06796547 Paleo-Balkan
35.56460319 Celto-Germanic
38.42465875 Early_Slavic
Target: Mortimer
Distance: 1820.3075% / 18.20307477
73.0 Paleo-Balkan
27.0 Early_Slavic
oszkar07
01-31-2024, 08:35 AM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 393.2879% / 3.93287936
64.4 Celto-Germanic
27.0 Early_Slavic
8.6 Paleo-Balkan
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