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JohnnyP
08-07-2021, 03:55 PM
Macedonian from Skopje
https://i.imgur.com/sqXPTNa.jpg
JohnnyP
08-15-2021, 09:30 PM
Macedonian from Pelagonia
https://i.imgur.com/rZGiJyv.jpg
JohnnyP
09-04-2021, 02:19 PM
My Friend Macedonian from Kumanovo (Northeast), close to Serbian border.
I'll not provide kit.
https://i.imgur.com/9izIvmN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7eVUn7Z.png
Varda
09-04-2021, 08:32 PM
My Friend Macedonian from Kumanovo (Northeast), close to Serbian border.
I'll not provide kit.
https://i.imgur.com/9izIvmN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7eVUn7Z.png
Northeastern Macedonians are pretty pure Bulgarians genetically. Other Macedonians look like a bit more paleo-Balkanic shifted Bulgarians.
JohnnyP
09-05-2021, 12:45 AM
Northeastern Macedonians are pretty pure Bulgarians genetically. Other Macedonians look like a bit more paleo-Balkanic shifted Bulgarians.
Varda :D
You need to finally decide , we r Aromanians or Bulgarians hahaha
Btw even northeaster part is more southern than BULGARIAN. :D
paradox
09-05-2021, 01:36 PM
Hi Johnny,
How does your friend feel about you changing his ydna from I-S17250 to E-L250 ?
You should also post his mother's and brother's results too. Your friend and his family are actually from Skopje but Kumanovo is close enough [emoji846]
JohnnyP
11-07-2021, 01:31 PM
Macedonian from Skopje and Debar,
LH1729790
https://i.imgur.com/10VOuk9.png
JohnnyP
11-08-2021, 01:30 PM
double
JohnnyP
11-08-2021, 01:35 PM
New Makedonian G25 results & coordinates from Veles ( Central part ) ,
Y-DNA haplo E-L677
MakedonianVeles_scaled,0.129758,0.14319,0.024513,-0.005814,0.<wbr style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">027082,0.000837,0.003055,0.<wbr style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">005077,0.003886,0.01385,-0.<wbr style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">001299,0.001199,-0.002379,0.<wbr style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">008945,-0.013843,-0.013259,-0.<wbr style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">011213,0.003547,0.002137,-0.<wbr style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">004627,-0.007487,-0.002226,0.<wbr style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">002588,-0.002651,0.003952
MakedonianVeles,0.0114,0.0141,0.<wbr style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">0065,-0.0018,0.0088,0.0003,0.<wbr style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">0013,0.0022,0.0019,0.0076,-0.<wbr style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">0008,0.0008,-0.0016,0.0065,-0.<wbr style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">0102,-0.01,-0.0086,0.0028,0.<wbr style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">0017,-0.0037,-0.006,-0.0018,0.<wbr style="font-size: small; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">0021,-0.0022,0.0033
Target: MakedonianVeles_scaled
Distance: 1.5581% / 0.01558120
59.4 Greek_Macedonia
25.8 Italian_Lombardy
13.6 Polish_Kashubian
1.2 Sardinian
Distance to: MakedonianVeles_scaled
0.02496941 Macedonian
0.02690185 Greek_Macedonia
0.02756142 Gagauz
0.02874316 Bulgarian
0.03215614 Romanian
0.03238412 Greek_Thessaly
0.03244410 Italian_Northeast
0.03252295 Albanian
0.03272400 Italian_Liguria
0.03286923 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.03442435 Italian_Veneto
0.03457666 Italian_Piedmont
0.03544880 Italian_Lombardy
0.03598692 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03680243 Rumelia_East
0.03681206 Italian_Bergamo
0.03710704 Swiss_Italian
0.03840915 Serbian
0.04088655 Montenegrin
0.04179393 Italian_Tuscany
0.04228597 Greek_Peloponnese
0.04374788 Italian_Marche
0.04515071 Moldovan
0.04552085 French_Provence
0.04760261 French_Corsica
JohnnyP
11-12-2021, 02:33 PM
Copied post from another forum
Two new G25 coordinates from Macedonians :
Macedonian from Northeast ( Skopje and Kumanovo ) background ( Pavleshenci near Kumanovo, and Cucar-Sandevo Skopska Crna Gora )
Macedonian_Northeast_scaled,0.125205,0.151314,0.02 4136,0.004199,0.029852,0.002231,0.003055,0.008307,-0.001432,0.011116,-0.002273,0.004496,-0.004608,0.004266,-0.012758,-0.020154,-0.005737,0.004814,0.004777,-0.005002,-0.010731,0.00136,-0.000493,0.003615,0.006347
Macedonian_Northeast,0.011,0.0149,0.0064,0.0013,0. 0097,0.0008,0.0013,0.0036,-0.0007,0.0061,-0.0014,0.003,-0.0031,0.0031,-0.0094,-0.0152,-0.0044,0.0038,0.0038,-0.004,-0.0086,0.0011,-0.0004,0.003,0.0053
Distance to: Macedonian_Northeast_scaled
0.03049683 Macedonian
0.03296126 Bulgarian
0.03306444 Italian_Northeast
0.03455499 Romanian
0.03573062 Greek_Macedonia
0.03728259 Italian_Liguria
0.03763313 Italian_Veneto
0.03831143 Albanian
0.03858392 Serbian
0.03877194 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
Target: Macedonian_Northeast_scaled
Distance: 2.2725% / 0.02272491
45.6 Italian_Lombardy
35.4 Greek_Macedonia
14.8 Lithuanian_VZ
4.2 Georgian_Imer
Closest individual Modern populations :
Distance to: Macedonian_Northeast_scaled
0.02809645 Italian_Timau:GRC14386323
0.02891184 Italian_Timau:GRC14386301
0.02906333 Macedonian10_scaled
0.02934239 Macedonian6_scaled
0.02934959 Italian_Veneto:ALP249
0.02955556 Moldovan:MOL-024
0.03022601 Macedonian7_scaled
0.03111263 Albanian:AL82
0.03132976 Bulgarian:BulgarianD6
0.03177285 Italian_Northeast:ALP233
0.03188626 Macedonian3_scaled
0.03232132 Italian_Veneto:ALP322
0.03243988 Macedonian:Macedonian6
0.03256404 Romanian:G421
0.03264515 Italian_Northeast:ALP280
0.03291361 Macedonian4_scaled
0.03291361 Macedonian:Macedonian8
0.03300958 Italian_Northeast:KF2700960
0.03324943 Greek_Macedonia:674
0.03330396 Italian_Lessinia_Cimbrians:GRC14372343
0.03345980 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.03366071 Italian_Veneto:ALP273
0.03366274 Italian_Timau:GRC14386325
0.03367845 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP11
0.03374457 Italian_Northeast:ALP506
Target: Macedonian_Northeast_scaled
Distance: 1.5894% / 0.01589413 | ADC: 1x RC
37.6 Italian_Timau
36.6 Macedonian10_scaled
25.8 Italian_Lessinia_Cimbrians
Target: Macedonian_Northeast_scaled
Distance: 3.0859% / 0.03085881
58.6 Balkans_IA
25.4 Nordic_IA
10.0 Baltic_IA
6.0 Turkmenistan_IA
Target: Macedonian_Northeast_scaled
Distance: 3.0967% / 0.03096674
49.2 GREECE_BYZANTINE_MEDIEVAL
25.0 ITALY_LONGOBARD
9.8 HUNGARY_MEDIEVAL_SLAV
8.4 RUSSIA_SLAV
7.6 SPAIN_GAULISH_MEDIEVAL
Unscaled
Distance to: Macedonian_Northeast
0.01832653 Greek_Macedonia
0.02042517 Macedonian
0.02057479 Greek_Thessaly
0.02101615 Bulgarian
0.02117664 Italian_Liguria
0.02126063 Romanian
0.02144759 Turkish_Deliorman
0.02159287 Albanian
0.02165024 Italian_Northeast
0.02275884 Serbian
Target: Macedonian_Northeast
Distance: 1.6235% / 0.01623480 | ADC: 1x RC
61.6 Greek_Macedonia
38.4 Italian_Liguria
Target: Macedonian_Northeast
Distance: 1.5042% / 0.01504155
53.4 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
10.2 BALTIC
9.0 TARTESSIAN
8.8 HUNNIC
8.2 GRECO-ROMAN
7.6 IBERIAN
2.6 CELTIC
0.2 AFRICAN
Macedonian from Struga (Southwest) :
Macedonian_Southwest_scaled,0.121791,0.138112,0.02 2627,-0.014535,0.030775,-0.000558,0.002585,-0.001154,-0.001432,0.014943,0.000325,0.003747,-0.00223,0.001927,-0.019951,0.008751,0.023078,-0.002914,0.002137,-0.00025,-0.01435,-0.005688,0.001109,0.007953,-0.003832
Macedonian_Southwest,0.0107,0.0136,0.006,-0.0045,0.01,-0.0002,0.0011,-0.0005,-0.0007,0.0082,0.0002,0.0025,-0.0015,0.0014,-0.0147,0.0066,0.0177,-0.0023,0.0017,-0.0002,-0.0115,-0.0046,0.0009,0.0066,-0.0032
Distance to: Macedonian_Southwest_scaled
0.02611627 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02851172 Rumelia_East
0.02871007 Macedonian
0.02929077 Albanian
0.03557540 Swiss_Italian
0.03621247 Greek_Thessaly
0.03631012 Greek_Peloponnese
0.03638617 Bulgarian
0.03640202 Greek_Macedonia
0.03867778 Romanian
Target: Macedonian_Southwest_scaled
Distance: 2.3658% / 0.02365766 | ADC: 0.5x RC
81.8 Greek_Central_Macedonia
13.6 Spanish_Soria
4.6 Romanian
Closest individual modern populations :
Distance to: Macedonian_Southwest_scaled
0.02019622 Macedonian15_scaled
0.02019622 Macedonian:Macedonian2
0.02489124 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE34
0.02704142 Macedonian1_scaled
0.02715071 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE8
0.02778322 Bulgarian:Bulgaria1
0.02793549 Albanian:AL98
0.02839811 Albanian:AL12
0.02873156 Macedonian4_scaled
0.02873156 Macedonian:Macedonian8
0.02901105 Rumelia_East:648
0.02960598 Greek_Macedonia:676
0.02975303 Macedonian9_scaled
0.02989331 Greek_Izmir:GreeceF28k
0.03120778 Italian_Northeast:KF2700922
0.03127082 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.03159207 Moldovan:MOL-065
0.03168099 Rumelia_East:649
0.03171131 Romanian:G428
0.03172831 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE126
0.03239296 Albanian:AL29
0.03263518 Albanian:AL9
0.03324367 Albanian:ALB213
0.03347326 Albanian:ALB202
0.03361064 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP15
Target: Macedonian_Southwest_scaled
Distance: 3.0704% / 0.03070355
61.6 Balkans_IA
15.2 England_IA
12.0 Baltic_IA
8.6 Anatolia_IA
2.6 Turkmenistan_IA
Target: Macedonian_Southwest_scaled
Distance: 2.6727% / 0.02672728
71.0 GREECE_BYZANTINE_MEDIEVAL
17.4 SLOVAKIA_GERMANIC_MEDIEVAL
6.4 RUSSIA_SLAV
4.0 ESTONIA_MEDIEVAL
1.2 SPAIN_MORISCO_MEDIEVAL
Unscaled
Distance to: Macedonian_Southwest
0.01781117 Rumelia_East
0.01784214 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.01950348 Greek_Laconia
0.02027228 Greek_Izmir
0.02036496 Macedonian
0.02063899 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02064164 Albanian
0.02148945 Turkish_Rumeli
0.02178556 Romanian
0.02297426 Bulgarian
Target: Macedonian_Southwest
Distance: 1.7277% / 0.01727678 | ADC: 1x RC
40.2 Rumelia_East
35.2 Greek_Central_Macedonia
24.6 Greek_Laconia
Target: Macedonian_Southwest
Distance: 1.4961% / 0.01496129
55.8 GRECO-ROMAN
24.6 ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN
18.2 BALTIC
1.4 NORTH_URALIC
JohnnyP
11-15-2021, 12:58 PM
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JohnnyP
11-16-2021, 01:48 PM
New G25 Macedonian from village of Umlena in eastern Macedonia, y-dna I-CTS10228 https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-CTS10228/
Macedonian_East_scaled,0.119514,0.149283,0.029793,-0.001292,0.023697,-0.006136,0.003995,0.005538,0.007772,0.00893,-0.000974,-0.004046,0.001338,0.006055,-0.010722,0.012331,0.02373,-0.00266,0.004274,0.002001,-0.006988,-0.001237,0.00493,0.000602,0.001437
Macedonian_East,0.0105,0.0147,0.0079,-0.0004,0.0077,-0.0022,0.0017,0.0024,0.0038,0.0049,-0.0006,-0.0027,0.0009,0.0044,-0.0079,0.0093,0.0182,-0.0021,0.0034,0.0016,-0.0056,-0.001,0.004,0.0005,0.0012
Distance to: Macedonian_East_scaled
0.03004712 Macedonian
0.03199768 Bulgarian
0.03284192 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.03305558 Romanian
0.03341574 Rumelia_East
0.03572607 Italian_Northeast
0.03574774 Montenegrin
0.03689794 Gagauz
0.03764537 Albanian
0.03774300 Swiss_Italian
Target: Macedonian_East_scaled
Distance: 2.0834% / 0.02083396 | R3P
64.0 Greek_Laconia
18.8 Latvian
17.2 Spanish_Soria
Modern individual closest
Distance to: Macedonian_East_scaled
0.02161036 Macedonian15_scaled
0.02282950 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE34
0.02488712 Bulgarian:Bulgaria1
0.02504106 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE8
0.02532788 Macedonian9_scaled
0.02626752 Montenegrin:Montenegro1
0.02651455 Rumelia_East:645
0.02682006 Serbian:Serbian_Serbia5
0.02808244 Italian_Timau:GRC14386305
Target: Macedonian_East_scaled
Distance: 1.9140% / 0.01914034 | ADC: 2x RC
54.6 Macedonian
44.6 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.8 Macedonian15_scaled
Ancient average closest
Distance to: Macedonian_East_scaled
0.04539122 HRV_MBA
0.04603657 ITA_Rome_MA
0.04816549 Scythian_MDA
0.05028596 HRV_Pop_CA
0.05044712 HUN_MA
0.05049187 DEU_MA_Alemannic_o1
0.05175444 GRC_Helladic_MBA
0.05214260 UKR_Cimmerian_o
0.05237163 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.05243384 HRV_Pop_RomanP
Target: Macedonian_East_scaled
Distance: 3.0714% / 0.03071447
60.6 Balkans_IA
19.8 Baltic_IA
14.6 England_IA
2.2 Pakistan_Butkara_IA
2.2 Turkmenistan_IA
0.6 Anatolia_IA
K13
https://i.imgur.com/aStywv3.png
https://i.imgur.com/lrfdWzB.png
JohnnyP
11-17-2021, 05:50 PM
Macedonian from Northeast and one grandparent from Southwest, GEDCOM : ( https://classic.gedmatch.com/GEDCom/...4284&id_ged=I3 ) Y-DNA R1b-L277
https://i.imgur.com/YckBDnt.png
Kit number: CE8882696,
https://i.imgur.com/yTQCgib.png
Post from another forum.
JohnnyP
11-19-2021, 04:23 PM
Copied post from another forum
""
Macedonian from Northeast and one grandparent from Southwest, background ( Probishtip/Sveti Nikole/Pelagonia/Drenak )
yDNA - R1b1a2a2b ( R1b - L277 ),
Macedonian_Northeast_Southwest_scaled,0.132035,0.1 38112,0.024136,-0.004199,0.018157,-0.010319,-0.004935,-0.004615,0.00409,0.004191,-0.003735,0.004646,-0.011298,0.000826,-0.016151,-0.007558,0.009388,0.000507,-0.00176,-0.003752,-0.007237,0.005317,-0.000616,0.006868,0.000599
Macedonian_Northeast_Southwest,0.0116,0.0136,0.006 4,-0.0013,0.0059,-0.0037,-0.0021,-0.002,0.002,0.0023,-0.0023,0.0031,-0.0076,0.0006,-0.0119,-0.0057,0.0072,0.0004,-0.0014,-0.003,-0.0058,0.0043,-0.0005,0.0057,0.0005
Distance to: Macedonian_Northeast_Southwest_scaled
0.02864907 Macedonian
0.03050327 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.03074463 Bulgarian
0.03187121 Albanian
0.03281197 Greek_Macedonia
0.03281591 Rumelia_East
0.03316259 Gagauz
0.03449188 Swiss_Italian
0.03471030 Greek_Thessaly
0.03526973 Romanian
0.03548442 Italian_Northeast
0.03701590 Italian_Piedmont
0.03803961 Italian_Veneto
0.03964231 Italian_Tuscany
0.04124196 Greek_Peloponnese
0.04132003 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.04303193 Italian_Bergamo
0.04315456 Montenegrin
0.04364765 Italian_Marche
0.04386795 Italian_Lombardy
0.04412891 Italian_Liguria
0.04413099 Serbian
0.04490851 Italian_Umbria
0.04740873 French_Provence
0.04848942 Italian_Aosta_Valley
Target: Macedonian_Northeast_Soutwest_scaled
Distance: 2.4275% / 0.02427488 | R3P
60.0 Greek_Central_Macedonia
38.2 Italian_Northeast
1.8 Bolivian_Cochabamba
Target: Macedonian_Northeast_Southwest_scaled
Distance: 2.5685% / 0.02568490 | R2P
84.0 Greek_Central_Macedonia
16.0 Shetlandic
Target: Macedonian_Northeast_Southwest_scaled
Distance: 2.9549% / 0.02954878
61.8 Balkans_IA
14.0 Nordic_IA
11.6 Turkmenistan_IA
8.4 Baltic_IA
2.8 England_IA
1.4 Anatolia_IA
Target: Macedonian_Northeast_Southwest_scaled
Distance: 2.0905% / 0.02090495
50.4 Balkan
19.4 Graeco-Roman
14.2 (Balto-)Slavic
11.6 Germanic
4.4 Finnic_like
Target: Macedonian_Northeast_Southwest_scaled
Distance: 2.8441% / 0.02844055
45.2 SRB_N
22.6 RUS_Samara_HG
12.6 GEO_CHG
8.2 DEU_LBK_KD
4.8 AZE_Caucasus_lowlands_LN
3.8 RUS_Karelia_HG
1.6 SRB_Starcevo_N
1.2 BGR_Krepost_N
Target: Macedonian_Northeast_Southwest_scaled
Distance: 2.2882% / 0.02288228 | ADC: 1x RC
62.4 GRC_Helladic_MBA
23.8 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky
13.8 Scythian_MDA
Distance to: Macedonian_Northeast_Southwest_scaled
0.03231894 GRC_Helladic_MBA
0.03348323 DEU_MA_Alemannic_o1
0.03685277 Scythian_MDA
0.03699231 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.03965000 ITA_Rome_MA
0.04489447 HRV_IA
0.04576555 HRV_MBA
0.04586984 HRV_EBA
0.04790340 UKR_Cimmerian_o
0.04816262 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
Unscaled,
Distance to: Macedonian_Northeast_Southwest
0.01562290 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.01596683 Albanian
0.01707617 Macedonian
0.01714039 Greek_Thessaly
0.01748703 Rumelia_East
0.01756293 Italian_Northeast
0.01781899 Bulgarian
0.01802168 Greek_Macedonia
0.01803321 Romanian
0.01839311 Greek_Peloponnese
0.01874901 Greek_Izmir
0.01907328 Italian_Molise
0.01957382 Gagauz
0.01985362 Swiss_Italian
0.01994589 Italian_Tuscany
Target: Macedonian_Northeast_Southwest
Distance: 1.0791% / 0.01079149 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.8 Albanian
23.0 Italian_Northeast
5.8 Chechen
5.4 Chuvash
5.2 Italian_Molise
3.8 Cree
3.0 Ethiopian_Mursi
1.0 Greek_Central_Macedonia
Target: Macedonian_Northeast_Southwest
Distance: 1.3926% / 0.01392553 | ADC: 1x RC
39.4 Greek_Central_Macedonia
37.4 Italian_Northeast
23.2 Albanian
""
A Macedonian Muslim Rom living in Germany
North_Atlantic 8 Pct
Baltic 11.47 Pct
West_Med 12.74 Pct
West_Asian 16.93 Pct
East_Med 22.45 Pct
Red_Sea 2.53 Pct
South_Asian 23.68 Pct
East_Asian 1.1 Pct
Siberian 0.35 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.75 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Target: Mohamed
Distance: 1.4489% / 1.44894814
31.9 Greek_Northern-Thrace
26.0 North_Kannadi
16.2 Greek_Cypriot
9.1 Lebanese_Christian
8.3 Greek_Caucasus
5.0 Chamar
3.1 Latvian
0.4 Austroasiatic_Ho
JohnnyP
12-03-2021, 07:18 PM
Two Macedonians
Kit number: AX1603802, y-dna I-P37
Population
North_Atlantic 23.98 Pct
Baltic 19.05 Pct
West_Med 17.81 Pct
West_Asian 11.9 Pct
East_Med 22.86 Pct
Red_Sea 2.55 Pct
South_Asian 1.84 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Distance to: AX1603802
3.72553352 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
3.83404486 Macedonian-South
4.22771806 Macedonian-Central
4.63369183 Macedonian-North
4.96879261 Albanian_Gheg
5.18264652 Greek_Thessaly
5.20983685 Albanian
5.53358835 Bulgaria_Northeastern
5.58508729 Turk_Makedonya
5.89629545 Bulgaria_Southeastern
Target: AX1603802
Distance: 2.3976% / 2.39761273 | R2P
82.0 Greek_West
18.0 North_German
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Macedonian from Skopje / Pelagonia
Kit number: A083622, y-dna R1b1 - R1b-L506 ( R1b - L278, R1b - M415 )
Population
North_Atlantic 23.76 Pct
Baltic 19.21 Pct
West_Med 19.1 Pct
West_Asian 11.09 Pct
East_Med 23.3 Pct
Red_Sea 0.7 Pct
South_Asian 0.96 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.19 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.7 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Distance to: A083622
3.29235478 Macedonian-South
3.57537411 Macedonian-Central
4.03086839 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
4.27525438 Albanian_Gheg
4.35954126 Macedonian-North
4.51423305 Albanian
4.89291324 Torbesh_average
5.21174875 Greek_Thessaly
5.63600923 Albanian_Tosk
6.10882968 Macedonian-East
Target: A083622
Distance: 0.9884% / 0.98836209 | R5P
69.0 Greek_Northern-Thrace
13.3 Spanish_Valencia
9.0 Irish_Munster
8.7 Lebanese_Druze
JohnnyP
12-12-2021, 11:46 AM
PG2135618, - Central - Vardar region.
Population
North_Atlantic 25.43 Pct
Baltic 18.98 Pct
West_Med 15.67 Pct
West_Asian 13.23 Pct
East_Med 22.64 Pct
Red_Sea 2.18 Pct
South_Asian 0.4 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.24 Pct
Amerindian 0.25 Pct
Oceanian 0.21 Pct
Northeast_African 0.73 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
UA6443626,
Population
North_Atlantic 24.31 Pct
Baltic 20.43 Pct
West_Med 20.04 Pct
West_Asian 11.38 Pct
East_Med 22.13 Pct
Red_Sea 0.27 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.84 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.11 Pct
Northeast_African 0.49 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
M743616, yDNA J2b2*
Population
North_Atlantic 23.77 Pct
Baltic 19.74 Pct
West_Med 19.32 Pct
West_Asian 10.65 Pct
East_Med 22.83 Pct
Red_Sea 0.72 Pct
South_Asian 0.99 Pct
East_Asian 0.87 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.83 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.27 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
SB5534115,
Population
North_Atlantic 24.95 Pct
Baltic 18.23 Pct
West_Med 16.98 Pct
West_Asian 11.13 Pct
East_Med 23.42 Pct
Red_Sea 2.32 Pct
South_Asian 0.24 Pct
East_Asian 0.65 Pct
Siberian 0.42 Pct
Amerindian 1.29 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.3 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.05 Pct
CU1029191,
Population
North_Atlantic 24.27 Pct
Baltic 18.19 Pct
West_Med 21.47 Pct
West_Asian 12.65 Pct
East_Med 20.38 Pct
Red_Sea 2.18 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.17 Pct
Amerindian 0.6 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.09 Pct
QL3384505,
Population
North_Atlantic 23.99 Pct
Baltic 18.29 Pct
West_Med 17.65 Pct
West_Asian 13.16 Pct
East_Med 22.8 Pct
Red_Sea 1.04 Pct
South_Asian 2.34 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.72 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
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JohnnyP
12-26-2021, 08:47 PM
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""
Three new Macedonian G25 results,
Central Vardar part with yDNA R1b1 - R1b-L506 (R1b-L278, R1b-M415)
Central-R1b-L278_scaled,0.124067,0.138112,0.020365,-0.001938,0.022773,-0.004462,0.005875,0.003692,-0.001023,0.013668,0.007145,0.001948,-0.0055,0.003991,-0.017644,0.011535,0.017471,-0.00038,0.003142,-0.004252,-0.005989,-0.000371,0.006162,0.001687,-0.003473
Central-R1b-L278,0.0109,0.0136,0.0054,-0.0006,0.0074,-0.0016,0.0025,0.0016,-0.0005,0.0075,0.0044,0.0013,-0.0037,0.0029,-0.013,0.0087,0.0134,-0.0003,0.0025,-0.0034,-0.0048,-0.0003,0.005,0.0014,-0.0029
Distance to: Central-R1b-L506_scaled
0.02375978 Rumelia_East
0.02465465 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02637325 Bulgarian
0.02702059 Albanian
0.03000655 Gagauz
0.03110007 Romanian
0.03172482 Greek_Macedonia
0.03331539 Swiss_Italian
0.03355064 Greek_Thessaly
0.03547177 Italian_Northeast
Target: Central-R1b-L506_scaled
Distance: 1.8532% / 0.01853221 | R2P
84.6 Rumelia_East
15.4 Slovakian
Target: Central-R1b-L278_scaled
Distance: 1.8713% / 0.01871325 | R3P
51.2 Albanian
32.2 Greek_Laconia
16.6 Finnish_Southeast
Target: Central-R1b-L506_scaled
Distance: 2.6556% / 0.02655631
55.0 TUR_Barcin_N
39.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
3.6 WHG
1.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
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Norheast - Skopje region with detailed background ( Skopje villages in today’s Ilinden areas - Bunardzik, Belimbegovo, Marino, Kadino, Miladinovci ) with yDNA
R1b1a2a1a2a1b3~2 - R1b-L421 (R1b-L433, R1b-L88) - but I can't find anything for this yDNA.
Northeast_Skopje-R1b-L421_scaled,0.125205,0.137096,0.026398,-0.003876,0.030159,-0.005578,0.001645,0.000692,-0.002863,0.005467,0.006658,0.002098,-0.000297,0.007844,-0.017236,0.006099,0.017602,0.001394,0.007668,-0.001751,-0.007362,-0.000124,0.007272,0.002892,-0.007784
Northeast_Skopje-R1b-L421,0.011,0.0135,0.007,-0.0012,0.0098,-0.002,0.0007,0.0003,-0.0014,0.003,0.0041,0.0014,-0.0002,0.0057,-0.0127,0.0046,0.0135,0.0011,0.0061,-0.0014,-0.0059,-0.0001,0.0059,0.0024,-0.0065
Distance to: Northeast_Skopje-R1b-L421_scaled
0.02441473 Bulgarian
0.02644931 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02750611 Romanian
0.02809275 Rumelia_East
0.02903193 Albanian
0.02972718 Gagauz
0.03165162 Montenegrin
0.03318957 Greek_Macedonia
0.03409721 Serbian
0.03512903 Italian_Northeast
Target: Northeast_Skopje-R1b-L421_scaled
Distance: 1.6941% / 0.01694112 | R3P
50.2 Albanian
28.0 Greek_Laconia
21.8 Cossack_Kuban
Target: Northeast_Skopje-R1b-L421_scaled
Distance: 2.1016% / 0.02101578 | ADC: 2x RC
56.4 Bulgarian
43.6 Greek_Central_Macedonia
Target: Northeast_Skopje-R1b-L421_scaled
Distance: 3.0868% / 0.03086756
52.2 TUR_Barcin_N
41.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
3.2 WHG
3.0 Levant_PPNB
0.6 Han
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Southwest Prilep - Pelagonia yDNA I1-L759
Pelagonia_Prilep_scaled,0.122929,0.148267,0.023381 ,-0.011628,0.032929,-0.010877,0.006815,0.006461,0.005318,0.009659,-0.000487,0.002997,-0.003865,0.011423,-0.012758,-0.012331,-0.011735,0,-0.001257,-0.004502,-0.009483,-0.00371,-0.000863,-0.003012,0.002275
Pelagonia_Prilep,0.0108,0.0146,0.0062,-0.0036,0.0107,-0.0039,0.0029,0.0028,0.0026,0.0053,-0.0003,0.002,-0.0026,0.0083,-0.0094,-0.0093,-0.009,0,-0.001,-0.0036,-0.0076,-0.003,-0.0007,-0.0025,0.0019
Distance to: Southwest_Pelagonia_Prilep-I1-L759
0.02840790 Greek_Macedonia
0.03236751 Albanian
0.03257617 Greek_Thessaly
0.03359629 Gagauz
0.03378512 Italian_Liguria
0.03412011 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.03414644 Italian_Piedmont
0.03574568 Italian_Lombardy
0.03600278 Bulgarian
0.03731898 Italian_Northeast
Target: Southwest_Pelagonia_Prilep-I1-L759
Distance: 2.1609% / 0.02160922 | R2P
76.4 Greek_Macedonia
23.6 Spanish_Asturias
Target: Southwest_Pelagonia_Prilep-I1-L759
Distance: 4.1591% / 0.04159056
39.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
32.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
22.2 TUR_Barcin_N
6.0 WHG
Update for Macedonians with yDNA & region info G25 results :
Central-R1b-L278_scaled,0.124067,0.138112,0.020365,-0.001938,0.022773,-0.004462,0.005875,0.003692,-0.001023,0.013668,0.007145,0.001948,-0.0055,0.003991,-0.017644,0.011535,0.017471,-0.00038,0.003142,-0.004252,-0.005989,-0.000371,0.006162,0.001687,-0.003473
Northeast_Skopje-R1b-L421_scaled,0.125205,0.137096,0.026398,-0.003876,0.030159,-0.005578,0.001645,0.000692,-0.002863,0.005467,0.006658,0.002098,-0.000297,0.007844,-0.017236,0.006099,0.017602,0.001394,0.007668,-0.001751,-0.007362,-0.000124,0.007272,0.002892,-0.007784
Southwest_Pelagonia_Prilep-I1-L759_scaled,0.122929,0.148267,0.023381,-0.011628,0.032929,-0.010877,0.006815,0.006461,0.005318,0.009659,-0.000487,0.002997,-0.003865,0.011423,-0.012758,-0.012331,-0.011735,0,-0.001257,-0.004502,-0.009483,-0.00371,-0.000863,-0.003012,0.002275
Southwest_Pelagonia-I-CTS595_scaled,0.122929,0.146236,0.023381,-0.006137,0.026774,-0.001116,-0.00376,-0.002077,-0.002454,0.018588,0.00065,0.001798,0.003717,0.0101 84,-0.011943,-0.008353,-0.008475,-0.000887,0.008799,-0.009004,-0.009234,0.009769,-0.000739,0.000602,-0.002395
Northeast_Skopje-I2a_scaled,0.125205,0.151314,0.024136,0.004199,0.0 29852,0.002231,0.003055,0.008307,-0.001432,0.011116,-0.002273,0.004496,-0.004608,0.004266,-0.012758,-0.020154,-0.005737,0.004814,0.004777,-0.005002,-0.010731,0.00136,-0.000493,0.003615,0.006347
Central_Veles-E-L677_scaled,0.129758,0.14319,0.024513,-0.005814,0.027082,0.000837,0.003055,0.005077,0.003 886,0.01385,-0.001299,0.001199,-0.002379,0.008945,-0.013843,-0.013259,-0.011213,0.003547,0.002137,-0.004627,-0.007487,-0.002226,0.002588,-0.002651,0.003952
Central_Kavadarci-EV-13_scaled,0.124067,0.144205,0.015839,-0.011305,0.025235,-0.004462,0.00611,0,0.000409,0.010387,0.001137,0.00 2847,-0.002379,0.015964,-0.012215,-0.007823,-0.005215,0.003167,0.005279,-0.010505,-0.010107,0.001855,0.003574,0.001446,0
Southeast_Gevgelija-EV-13_scaled,0.121791,0.144205,0.026398,-0.012597,0.024928,-0.005578,0.00094,-0.001846,0.001636,0.006925,-0.002923,-0.002997,-0.000595,0.011423,-0.014794,0.010607,0.013299,0.000127,0.010182,-0.006753,-0.006239,0.006677,0.007641,0.002169,-0.000958
East_Delcevo-EV-13_scaled,0.127482,0.137096,0.031678,-0.003553,0.032006,0.00251,-0.00094,0.000231,0.001023,0.009112,-0.001949,-0.003597,-0.001635,0.004542,-0.015065,0.004243,0.022296,0.004054,0.001383,0.001 626,-0.004118,0.006677,0.004067,0.001325,-0.007065
Northeast_R1b-L277_scaled,0.132035,0.138112,0.024136,-0.004199,0.018157,-0.010319,-0.004935,-0.004615,0.00409,0.004191,-0.003735,0.004646,-0.011298,0.000826,-0.016151,-0.007558,0.009388,0.000507,-0.00176,-0.003752,-0.007237,0.005317,-0.000616,0.006868,0.000599
Southwest_Struga-G2a_scaled,0.121791,0.138112,0.022627,-0.014535,0.030775,-0.000558,0.002585,-0.001154,-0.001432,0.014943,0.000325,0.003747,-0.00223,0.001927,-0.019951,0.008751,0.023078,-0.002914,0.002137,-0.00025,-0.01435,-0.005688,0.001109,0.007953,-0.003832
Southwest_Ohrid-J2b2_scaled,0.130897,0.144205,0.026776,-0.011305,0.023389,0.001116,0.0047,0.007384,-0.001432,0.015855,0.005521,0.007943,-0.008474,0.01445,-0.022258,-0.001326,0.00352,0.003674,-0.001634,-0.002501,-0.000499,-0.000742,0.001109,-0.00482,-0.001197
Northwest_Tetovo-J-L70_scaled,0.120652,0.138112,0.026021,-0.006137,0.025543,-0.006136,0.00376,0.001615,-0.001841,0.008747,0.008931,0.002698,0.005649,0.005 918,-0.020901,-0.00305,0.014212,-0.00114,0.004274,0.001876,-0.010981,-0.006554,0.004314,-0.003615,-0.002634
NortheastCentral_Skopje_Veles-J-M67_scaled,0.121791,0.150298,0.01697,-0.003553,0.020004,-0.00502,0.007285,0.003461,0.001841,0.009112,-0.008769,-0.001649,-0.004608,0.000138,-0.013301,-0.000796,0.009518,-0.003167,0.002263,-0.008629,-0.010232,0.000371,0.010969,0.002651,-0.007185
West_Krushevo-EV-13_scaled,0.117238,0.136081,0.02753,0.001615,0.031 698,0.006693,0.0094,0.002769,-0.004295,0.007836,0.002598,0.003147,-0.004162,0.010597,-0.007736,-0.000398,0.002868,0.004181,0.005656,-0.011631,-0.00549,0.004822,-0.001109,0.001687,0.000479
E & EV-13 = 5
R1b = 3
I1 & I2 = 3
J2 = 3
G2a = 1
""
JohnnyP
01-01-2022, 02:35 PM
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Bigger update from Macedonians with y-DNA and region info, 70% of them have G25 coordinates
North
1.Northwest city Tetovo , y-DNA : J2a1h2a1 - J2-L70 (J2-L397, J2-L398),
2.Northwest city Tetovo .y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
3.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : J2a1b - J2-CTS6372 (J2-M67, J2-PF5120)
4.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : I2a1b3~1~1 - I2-CTS10228 (I2-CTS5966) Slavic ?
5.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : R1b1a2a2b - R1b-L277
6.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : R1b1a2a1a2a1b3~2 - R1b-L421 (R1b-L433, R1b-L88)
7.Northeast city Kumanovo , y-DNA :I2a1b - I2-CTS11030 (I2-CTS1293, I2-CTS176) Slavic ?
8.Northeast city Kumanovo , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b7 - E-L250 (E-L251, E-L252)
9.Northeast city Kriva Palanka , y-DNA : G2a3
10.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : I2a1b3~1~1 - I2-CTS10228 (I2-CTS5966) Slavic?
East
1.East city Delcevo , y-DNA : J2a1b - J2-CTS6372 (J2-M67, J2-PF5120)
2.East village Umlena , y-DNA : I2a1b3~1~1 - I2-CTS10228 (I2-CTS5966) Slavic ?
3.East city Berovo , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
4.East city Delcevo , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
Central
1.Central city Veles , y-DNA : I2a2a1~1 - I2-CTS10057 (I2-CTS10100, I2-Z162) Celtic ?
2.Central city Veles , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1c - E-CTS2548 (E-CTS2817, E-CTS5479)
3.Central city Veles , y-DNA : R1b1a2a1a2a1b3~2 - R1b-L421 (R1b-L433, R1b-L88)
4.Central city Stip , y-DNA : R1b-Z156 Celtic ?
5.Central city Kavadarci , y-DNA : E1b1a1a1e - E-M10 (E-M66, E-M156) E-V68 ?
6.Central city Radovish , y-DNA R1b1 - R1b-L506 (R1b-L278, R1b-M415)
West
1.West city Krushevo , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
2.West city Debar , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
South
1.Pelagonia city Bitola , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
2.Pelagonia city Prilep , y-DNA : I2a2a1~1 - I2-CTS10057 (I2-CTS10100, I2-Z162) Celtic ?
3.Pelagonia city Prilep , y-DNA : I1-L759 - (I1-CTS10140, I1-CTS10338) - Nordic/Germanic ?
4.Southwest city Struga , y-DNA : G2a3b1a1a1 - G-Z1991 (G-Z2022)
5.Southwest city Struga , y-DNA : I2a1b3~1~1 - I2-CTS10228 (I2-CTS5966) Slavic?
6.Southwest city Ohrid , y-DNA : J2b2-M241
7.Southwest city DemirHisar , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
8.Southeast city Gevgelija , y-DNA : E-V13
9.Southwest city Ohrid , y-DNA : J2b2
10.Southwest Prespa , y-DNA : R-Z92 Slavic ?
E1b = 35.48%
I2 + I1 = 25.81%
R1b = 16.13%
J2 = 16.13%
G2a = 6.45%
R1a = 3.23%
Macedonia is mainly E-V13, right? Do you have some accurate y-dna breakdown for ethnic Macedonians?
JohnnyP
01-01-2022, 03:11 PM
Macedonia is mainly E-V13, right? Do you have some accurate y-dna breakdown for ethnic Macedonians?
Yes main y-DNA is E1b ( E-V13 ) , I'm surprised by too many R1b Macedonians ( Mainly from Central and North part ) and I2a Celtic branches, and surprised by R-Z92 from Prespa, I guess R-Z92 would be Slavic ? There are 32 y-DNA ,it's good number, but I think we need more from Kumanovo,Kriva Palanka and Strumica ( Southeast ) , Mainly all regions are covered, mostly North and South.
Yes main y-DNA is E1b ( E-V13 ) , I'm surprised by too many R1b Macedonians ( Mainly from Central and North part ) and I2a Celtic branches, and surprised by R-Z92 from Prespa, I guess R-Z92 would be Slavic ? There are 32 y-DNA ,it's good number, but I think we need more from Kumanovo,Kriva Palanka and Strumica ( Southeast ) , Mainly all regions are covered, mostly North and South.
E-V13 is paternal Thracian/Paeonian ancestry
Balkan R1b (L23) branches are Illyiran, maybe some Thracian too
R-Z92 Balto-Slavic, more common in eastern Slavs
I2 I guess will mostly be Slavic branches and some Celtic and Paleo Balkan
How much J2 is there and is it J2a or J2b?
We still don't know ydna of ancient Maceodnians, but eventually they will test them somewhere in the future.
JohnnyP
01-01-2022, 03:43 PM
E-V13 is paternal Thracian/Paeonian ancestry
Balkan R1b (L23) branches are Illyiran, maybe some Thracian too
R-Z92 Balto-Slavic, more common in eastern Slavs
I2 I guess will mostly be Slavic branches and some Celtic and Paleo Balkan
How much J2 is there and is it J2a or J2b?
We still don't know ydna of ancient Maceodnians, but eventually they will test them somewhere in the future.
We don't know still, because E-V13 is most dominant in "Illyrian" country like Kosovo and Albania it's not necessary Thracian, also we don't have Peonian sample so we don't know , in any case Peonians were part of ancient Macedonian ethnos , I guess ancient Macedonians would be R1b , E-V13 and I2a Celtic branches like one of Thracian Bessi I-Y13338.
J2 mostly is J2a , but there are two samples from Ohrid and both are J2b2 and one from Skopje J2b2.
We don't know still, because E-V13 is most dominant in "Illyrian" country like Kosovo and Albania it's not necessary Thracian, also we don't have Peonian sample so we don't know , in any case Peonians were part of ancient Macedonian ethnos , I guess ancient Macedonians would be R1b , E-V13 and I2a Celtic branches like one of Thracian Bessi I-Y13338.
J2 mostly is J2a , but there are two samples from Ohrid and both are J2b2 and one from Skopje J2b2.
Illyrian samples from Croatia and Slovenia all came out J2b2. Meanwhile Illyrian tribe Daunians in Apulia who originate from Albania were also J2b2, some R1b and Paleo Balkan I2 branches.
E-V13 wasn't found, but Moesians from Serbia were E-V13 heavy and it was found in Gava culture in Hungary.
Kosovo was mixed Thracian Illyrian zone and Albos are mix of west and east Balkan ancestry. Proto-Albanians probably developed somewhere in central Balkans.
you also need t take in account founder/bottleneck effects like in Kosovo or Herzegovina (lot of people descend from few men)
J2a in north Macedonia should be Hellenic origin, J2b native Illyrian.
Of curse we need more ancient samples to be sure.
vbnetkhio
01-01-2022, 04:01 PM
E-V13 is paternal Thracian/Paeonian ancestry
Balkan R1b (L23) branches are Illyiran, maybe some Thracian too
R-Z92 Balto-Slavic, more common in eastern Slavs
I2 I guess will mostly be Slavic branches and some Celtic and Paleo Balkan
How much J2 is there and is it J2a or J2b?
We still don't know ydna of ancient Maceodnians, but eventually they will test them somewhere in the future.
statistics for 518 Macedonian samples from various studies:
n=518
R1b = 52 = 10.03%
R1b-Z2103-BY611 = 16 = 3.08%
R1b-Z2103(xBY611) = 14 = 2.70%
R1b-PF7562 = 2 = 0.38%
R1b-L51 = 20 = 3.87%
R1a = 71 = 13.70%
R1a-Z280 = 37 = 7.14%
R1a-M458 = 29 = 5.59%
R1a-Z93 = 5 = 0.96%
I1 = 19 = 3.66%
I2 = 136 = 26.25%
I2a-Y3120 = 124 = 23.93%
I2a-Y3120(DYS448=20) = 24 = 4.63%
I2a-Y3120(DYS448=19) = 24 = 4.63%
I2a-M223 = 6 = 1.15%
I2a-L161.1 = 2 = 0.38%
I2a-P37(xM423) = 3 = 0.58%
I2c-L1251.1 = 1 = 0.19%
E1b-M35 = 131 = 25.28%
E1b-V13 = 100 = 19.30%
E1b-M123 = 13 = 2.50%
E1b-V22 = 9 = 1.73%
E1b-V12 = 3 = 0.58%
E1b-M81 = 2 = 0.38%
E1b-M35 = 4 = 0.77%
J2 = 55 = 10.61%
J2a-M67 = 12 = 2.31%
J2a-Z387 = 12 = 2.31%
J2a(xM67,xZ387) = 5 = 0.96%
J2b2-M241 = 23 = 4.44%
J2b1-M205 = 3 = 0.58%
J1 = 10 = 1.93%
G2 = 25 = 4.82%
G2a = 23 = 4.44%
G2b = 2 = 0.38%
T1 = 12 = 2.31%
Q1 = 1 = 0.19%
L1b = 1 = 0.19%
C1 = 2 = 0.38%
H1-M82 = 2 = 0.38%
R2 = 1 = 0.19%
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JohnnyP
01-01-2022, 04:07 PM
Illyrian samples from Croatia and Slovenia all came out J2b2. Meanwhile Illyrian tribe Daunians in Apulia who originate from Albania were also J2b2, some R1b and Paleo Balkan I2 branches.
E-V13 wasn't found, but Moesians from Serbia were E-V13 heavy and it was found in Gava culture in Hungary.
Kosovo was mixed Thracian Illyrian zone and Albos are mix of west and east Balkan ancestry. Proto-Albanians probably developed somewhere in central Balkans.
you also need t take in account founder/bottleneck effects like in Kosovo or Herzegovina (lot of people descend from few men)
J2a in north Macedonia should be Hellenic origin, J2b native Illyrian.
Of curse we need more ancient samples to be sure.
You are wrong , there is E-L618 from Dalmatia, why Albanian most dominant haplo is E-V13 ( not talking about Kosovo ) ? I think they are not Thracians nor they claim that, E-V13 is Barbaric ancient Balkan haplogroup , ancient Illyrian,Macedonian and Thracian ( subgroups Dacian - Getae ),
There are many J2a Macedonians with reason, I guess you will found out all in short future, and I personally think or maybe know ? WHO KNOWS :D - That ancient Macedonians were more like Illyrians than Thracians.
You are wrong , there is E-L618 from Dalmatia, why Albanian most dominant haplo is E-V13 ( not talking about Kosovo ) ? I think they are not Thracians nor they claim that, E-V13 is Barbaric ancient Balkan haplogroup , ancient Illyrian,Macedonian and Thracian ( subgroups Dacian - Getae ),
There are many J2a Macedonians with reason, I guess you will found out all in short future, and I personally think or maybe know ? WHO KNOWS :D - That ancient Macedonians were more like Illyrians than Thracians.
That E from Dalmatia is neolithic If I am not mistaken. Well, we have data for Illyrians from Croatia, Slovenia and southern Italy (who came from Albania) and no E-V13.
You can say what you want, but so far E-V13 doesn't look Illyrian at all.
It looks Dacian also, yes.
Albanians are mix of various Paleo Balkan people, with some Greco-Roman and Slavic influence. I am curious to see ancient samples from Albania proper, Iron Age and antiquity.
I think J2a can be one of ancient Macedonian markers. They possibly had Illyrian influence as well.
JohnnyP
01-01-2022, 04:14 PM
Here's ***** post =
https://i.imgur.com/viAAfHI.png
But by many other studies and my collection of more than 40 raw dna data from Macedonians , that most dominant y-DNA in modern Macedonians is E1b=E-V13.
vbnetkhio
01-01-2022, 04:46 PM
Here's ***** post =
https://i.imgur.com/viAAfHI.png
But by many other studies and my collection of more than 40 raw dna data from Macedonians , that most dominant y-DNA in modern Macedonians is E1b=E-V13.
There are no other studies, the statistics I posted were made by ***** from all available studies.
JohnnyP
01-01-2022, 04:52 PM
There are no other studies, the statistics I posted were made by ***** from all available studies.
Yes there are , from MacedonianTruth forum, It's forum based on Macedonian DNA results, also there is facebook group.
As I mentioned before, they "work" - "posting" only with full Macedonians, not influenced Macedonians from other neighboring ethnos.
Btw And also my personal database with around 40 raw dna data's from Macedonians, - I'm willing to share these If someone needs.
This statistics are from MacedonianTruth forum I posted up there ^, 50% of these I already have in my database , but I will update them with more for two days, and I'm mentioning again I'm posting only full Macedonians.
JohnnyP
01-02-2022, 01:06 PM
This is my breakdown from MacedonianTruth statistics + mine, total 52 Macedonians and included Aegean Macedonians,
North
1.Northwest city Tetovo , y-DNA : J2a1h2a1 - J2-L70 (J2-L397, J2-L398),
2.Northwest city Tetovo .y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
3.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : J2a1b - J2-CTS6372 (J2-M67, J2-PF5120)
4.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : I2a1b3~1~1 - I2-CTS10228 (I2-CTS5966) Slavic ?
5.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : R1b1a2a2b - R1b-L277
6.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : R1b1a2a1a2a1b3~2 - R1b-L421 (R1b-L433, R1b-L88)
7.Northeast city Kumanovo , y-DNA :I2a1b - I2-CTS11030 (I2-CTS1293, I2-CTS176) Slavic ?
8.Northeast city Kumanovo , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b7 - E-L250 (E-L251, E-L252)
9.Northeast city Kriva Palanka , y-DNA : G2a3
10.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : I2a1b3~1~1 - I2-CTS10228 (I2-CTS5966) Slavic?
11.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : J-L84
12.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : I1
13.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : I-CTS5966
14.Northeast city Skopje - J-L24
15.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : E1b1b1a
16.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : I-S17250
17.Northeast city Skopje , y-DNA : J2b2
East
1.East city Delcevo , y-DNA : J2a1b - J2-CTS6372 (J2-M67, J2-PF5120)
2.East village Umlena , y-DNA : I2a1b3~1~1 - I2-CTS10228 (I2-CTS5966) Slavic ?
3.East city Berovo , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
4.East city Delcevo , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
Central
1.Central city Veles , y-DNA : I2a2a1~1 - I2-CTS10057 (I2-CTS10100, I2-Z162) Celtic ?
2.Central city Veles , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1c - E-CTS2548 (E-CTS2817, E-CTS5479)
3.Central city Veles , y-DNA : R1b1a2a1a2a1b3~2 - R1b-L421 (R1b-L433, R1b-L88)
4.Central city Stip , y-DNA : R1b-Z156 Celtic ?
5.Central city Kavadarci , y-DNA : E1b1a1a1e - E-M10 (E-M66, E-M156) E-V68 ?
6.Central city Radovish , y-DNA R1b1 - R1b-L506 (R1b-L278, R1b-M415)
West
1.West city Krushevo , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
2.West city Debar , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
South
1.Pelagonia city Bitola , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
2.Pelagonia city Prilep , y-DNA : I2a2a1~1 - I2-CTS10057 (I2-CTS10100, I2-Z162) Celtic ?
3.Pelagonia city Prilep , y-DNA : I1-L759 - (I1-CTS10140, I1-CTS10338) - Nordic/Germanic ?
4.Southwest city Struga , y-DNA : G2a3b1a1a1 - G-Z1991 (G-Z2022)
5.Southwest city Struga , y-DNA : I2a1b3~1~1 - I2-CTS10228 (I2-CTS5966) Slavic?
6.Southwest city Ohrid , y-DNA : J2b2-M241
7.Southwest city DemirHisar , y-DNA : E1b1b1a1b - E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
8.Southeast city Gevgelija , y-DNA : E-V13
9.Southwest city Ohrid , y-DNA : J2b2
10.Southwest Prespa , y-DNA : R-Z92 Slavic ?
11.Southwest region Prespa , y-DNA : J-FT278595
12.Southwest region Prespa , y-DNA : R1b-M269
13.Southwest city Ohrid , y-DNA : E1b - E-V13
14.Pelagonia city Bitola , y-DNA : J1
15.Pelagonia city Bitola , y-DNA : I-S17250
16.Pelagonia city Bitola . y-DNA : J-M241
17.Pelagonia city Bitola , y-DNA : R1b-Z156
18.Pelagonia city Bitola , y-DNA : R1b1b2a
19.Aegean Macedonia , y-DNA : J-M67
20.Aegean Macedonia , y-DNA : J-M67
21.Aegean Macedonia , y-DNA : I2a2b
22.Aegean Macedonia , y-DNA : E1b1b1a2
23.Aegean Macedonia , y-DNA : E1b1b1a2*
https://i.imgur.com/dp16MFK.jpg
RogueState
01-02-2022, 01:25 PM
Lots of I2 than their autosomal results would suggest
JohnnyP
01-02-2022, 01:48 PM
Lots of I2 than their autosomal results would suggest
Yeah, but there are three I1 and I think two I2 with celtic branches, never mind I noticed from one study for Albanians from Macedonia also high I, so I guess Its I2+I1 too,
https://i.imgur.com/17CkpPr.png
JohnnyP
01-04-2022, 01:31 AM
COPIED POST FROM ANOTHER FORUM
New G25 results of Macedonian from Northwest , village Vratnica,
Northwest_Vratnica_scaled,0.127482,0.141159,0.0305 47,-0.010013,0.023697,-0.002789,0.000705,-0.002538,-0.003681,0.008201,0.002436,-0.000599,0.0055,0.017891,-0.018865,-0.014717,-0.008214,0.004307,0.002514,-0.011631,-0.003619,-0.000989,-0.005916,-0.003012,-0.001317
Northwest_Vratnica,0.0112,0.0139,0.0081,-0.0031,0.0077,-0.001,0.0003,-0.0011,-0.0018,0.0045,0.0015,-0.0004,0.0037,0.013,-0.0139,-0.0111,-0.0063,0.0034,0.002,-0.0093,-0.0029,-0.0008,-0.0048,-0.0025,-0.0011
Distance to: Northwest_Vratnica_scaled
0.03045585 Greek_Macedonia
0.03270106 Bulgarian
0.03593416 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.03642739 Albanian
0.03758114 Rumelia_East
0.03785426 Romanian
0.03845375 Greek_Thessaly
Target: Northwest_Vratnica_scaled
Distance: 2.3658% / 0.02365844
80.0 Greek_Macedonia
11.8 Polish_Kashubian
3.8 Russian_Kaluga
3.2 Sardinian
1.2 Samaritan
Distance to: Northwest_Vratnica_scaled
0.03594406 DEU_MA_Alemannic_o1
0.03691558 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.03836783 GRC_Logkas_MBA
0.04839461 Scythian_MDA
0.04849653 ITA_Rome_MA
0.04890840 HUN_Avar_Period
0.04914725 HRV_IA
Target: Northwest_Vratnica_scaled
Distance: 2.7332% / 0.02733211 | ADC: 1x RC
38.6 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
38.2 GRC_Logkas_MBA
23.2 VK2020_UKR_Chernigov_VA_o
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Macedonian from Central - Veles ,
Central-Veles_scaled,0.126344,0.152329,0.025644,-0.006783,0.024928,-0.004183,0.003995,0.003231,-0.000205,0.010752,0.002923,0.000899,0.002825,0.007 294,-0.014386,0.010607,0.019818,-0.004181,0.007542,0.000625,-0.013851,-0.007914,0.007641,-0.000723,-0.000239
Central-Veles,0.0111,0.015,0.0068,-0.0021,0.0081,-0.0015,0.0017,0.0014,-0.0001,0.0059,0.0018,0.0006,0.0019,0.0053,-0.0106,0.008,0.0152,-0.0033,0.006,0.0005,-0.0111,-0.0064,0.0062,-0.0006,-0.0002
Distance to: Veles_scaled
0.02844263 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02899241 Rumelia_East
0.03307748 Bulgarian
0.03386811 Albanian
0.03534001 Greek_Macedonia
0.03554106 Romanian
0.03574793 Gagauz
0.03792135 Greek_Thessaly
0.03872198 Italian_Northeast
0.03916928 Greek_Peloponnese
Distance to: Veles_scaled
0.04414514 GRC_Logkas_MBA
0.04576048 HRV_MBA
0.04666965 DEU_MA_ACD_Nordic
0.04673271 ITA_Rome_MA
0.04673487 UKR_Cimmerian_o
0.04787921 DEU_MA_Alemannic_o1
0.04874446 Scythian_MDA
0.04934338 ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana
0.04953662 HRV_Pop_CA
0.05052596 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
Target: Veles_scaled
Distance: 2.4098% / 0.02409828 | R2P
69.0 Greek_Laconia
31.0 Slovakian
Target: Veles_scaled
Distance: 2.5126% / 0.02512613
75.2 __IllyricRoman
24.8 __Slavic
JohnnyP
01-06-2022, 01:45 AM
COPIED POST FROM ANOTHER FORUM
Updated Macedonian G25 average from 23 coordinates ;
Macedonian(n=23)_scaled,0.125313857,0.143189619,0. 024243429,-0.006336952,0.026202619,-0.002974905,0.002842381,0.001901,-4.7619E-08,0.010986238,0.000819762,0.001577143,-0.002378524,0.007654429,-0.015950381,-0.000372619,0.009480762,-0.000102571,0.004716762,-0.004121,-0.010065619,7.05714E-05,0.003574143,0.002025476,-0.000159524
Distance to: Macedonian(n=23)_scaled
0.02891146 GRC_Logkas_MBA
0.03195669 DEU_MA_Alemannic_o1
0.03512876 Scythian_MDA
0.03549857 ITA_Rome_MA
0.03761734 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.03765765 DEU_MA_ACD_Nordic
0.03953780 SRB_Mokrin_EBA_Maros_oAegean
0.04021449 HRV_MBA
0.04233355 HRV_Pop_CA
0.04307326 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
Distance to: Macedonian(n=23)_scaled
0.01589624 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.01869780 Bulgarian
0.01909186 Albanian
0.01994086 Rumelia_East
0.02061714 Greek_Macedonia
0.02125195 Gagauz
0.02386643 Romanian
0.02535851 Greek_Thessaly
0.02720398 Italian_Northeast
0.02939548 Swiss_Italian
Target: Macedonian(n=23)_scaled
Distance: 0.7949% / 0.00794866 | ADC: 1x RC
52.2 Greek_Central_Macedonia
27.2 Bulgarian
20.6 Italian_Northeast
Target: Macedonian(n=23)_scaled
Distance: 1.9792% / 0.01979225 | ADC: 1x RC
67.8 GRC_Logkas_MBA
23.8 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky
8.4 Scythian_MDA
Balkan Migration Calculator by ph2ter
Target: Macedonian(n=23)_scaled
Distance: 0.7222% / 0.00722240
75.0 __IllyricRoman
25.0 __Slavic
Number of samples by region;
South = 8
North = 7
Central = 5
East = 2
West = 1
JohnnyP
01-07-2022, 05:34 PM
COPIED POST FROM ANOTHER FORUM
Macedonian from Southeast city Strumica,
Southeast_Strumica_scaled,0.125205,0.141159,0.0245 13,-0.010659,0.026466,-0.005299,-0.002585,0.003923,0.005727,0.011299,-0.005196,0.001499,-0.002825,0.013762,-0.019001,-0.002917,0.003781,0.00038,0.002388,-0.002251,-0.006988,0.009027,-0.003328,-0.002771,-0.003473
Southeast_Strumica,0.011,0.0139,0.0065,-0.0033,0.0086,-0.0019,-0.0011,0.0017,0.0028,0.0062,-0.0032,0.001,-0.0019,0.01,-0.014,-0.0022,0.0029,0.0003,0.0019,-0.0018,-0.0056,0.0073,-0.0027,-0.0023,-0.0029
Distance to: Southeast_Strumica_scaled
0.02226069 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02314887 Greek_Macedonia
0.02369310 Albanian
0.02599586 Bulgarian
0.02742267 Gagauz
0.02833376 Rumelia_East
0.02861064 Greek_Thessaly
0.03147547 Romanian
0.03307852 Swiss_Italian
0.03322580 Italian_Northeast
0.03396970 Italian_Veneto
0.03410477 Greek_Peloponnese
0.03415314 Italian_Piedmont
0.03707494 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03741134 Italian_Tuscany
0.03790944 Italian_Liguria
0.03933390 Montenegrin
0.03935501 Italian_Bergamo
0.03963654 Serbian
0.04022853 Italian_Marche
0.04115102 Italian_Lombardy
0.04342577 Italian_Umbria
0.04408860 Greek_Laconia
0.04455339 French_Corsica
0.04614437 Greek_Izmir
Target: Southeast_Strumica_scaled
Distance: 1.7842% / 0.01784193 | ADC: 0.5x RC
30.2 Greek_Macedonia
26.8 Bulgarian
26.0 Greek_Central_Macedonia
17.0 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
Target: Southeast_Strumica_scaled
Distance: 1.6582% / 0.01658210 | R3P
75.4 Greek_Macedonia
12.8 Russian_Kaluga
11.8 Sardinian
Distance to: Southeast_Strumica_scaled
0.03317098 GRC_Logkas_MBA
0.03323231 DEU_MA_Alemannic_o1
0.03555589 ITA_Rome_MA
0.03784625 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.03839108 SRB_Mokrin_EBA_Maros_oAegean
0.03859678 Scythian_MDA
0.04266444 DEU_MA_ACD_Nordic
0.04300208 VK2020_ITA_Foggia_MA
0.04342895 HRV_Pop_CA
0.04347771 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.04416050 HRV_IA
0.04489077 HRV_MBA
0.04546713 DEU_MA_Alemannic_o2
0.04761785 HRV_EBA
0.04821668 HUN_MBA_Vatya
0.04837193 ITA_Tarquinia_EMA
0.04847544 HUN_Avar_Period
0.04896909 ITA_Chiusi_EMA
0.04896965 ITA_Etruscan
0.05154228 ITA_PoggioPelliccia_EMA
0.05182357 ITA_Etruscan_Marsiliana
0.05220208 ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance
0.05256838 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE
0.05311909 Levant_LBN_MA_o4
0.05336598 UKR_Cimmerian_o
Target: Southeast_Strumica_scaled
Distance: 2.2596% / 0.02259563 | R2P
75.0 BGR_IA
25.0 Baltic_LVA_BA
Target: Southeast_Strumica_scaled
Distance: 2.4491% / 0.02449105
77.4 ILLYRIAN
22.6 SLAVIC
Target: Southeast_Strumica_scaled
Distance: 1.9800% / 0.01980016
73.2 __IllyricRoman
24.4 __Slavic
2.4 __Greek
Target: Southeast_Strumica_scaled
Distance: 3.2567% / 0.03256655
33.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
31.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
29.2 TUR_Barcin_N
5.6 WHG
Anaximander
01-07-2022, 05:45 PM
Baltic 21%
I was sure about your Finno-Ugric phenotype, almost Alfold Turanid.
Where can i take one of those tests to find out my origins and if i am made of Mcedonian genetic material?
vlrs-2
01-08-2022, 09:35 PM
Thracian Bessi I-Y13338.
What is that Thracian sample? I am not aware of any Y-dna haplogroups of Thracians.
Dirdepo
01-08-2022, 09:37 PM
I2-Jesus
JohnnyP
01-12-2022, 04:32 PM
20 Macedonians from Serbian DNA Project y-DNA ;
https://i.imgur.com/lQ2NlOT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1HJW5Nq.png
Crn Volk
01-12-2022, 10:39 PM
20 Macedonians from Serbian DNA Project y-DNA ;
https://i.imgur.com/lQ2NlOT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1HJW5Nq.png
I'm guessing they're Macedonian Serbs. Their results seem like they are.
JohnnyP
01-12-2022, 11:14 PM
I'm guessing they're Macedonian Serbs. Their results seem like they are.
No no , they are Macedonians , how it seems they are Serbian ? :D, Serbs have dominant I2 with low R1b and J in general,
They are Macedonians , this was popular here 1-2 years ago, many Macedonians find easiest way to test themselves , you need to invest 5euros for this :D
Anaximander
01-13-2022, 11:15 AM
The ones with high Baltic, are ur relatives.
Long live the great Alfold Turanid sub-race.
JohnnyP
03-16-2022, 05:15 PM
Updated Macedonian gedmatch results from Central and South regions, Total = 50 kits = 25 from Central & 25 from South
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JTiXaEbMXXP2lpK1PHFscslYrooNwM8wi_7B8qig1HM/edit#gid=0
Central and South from these cities :
https://i.imgur.com/Ueklqlx_d.webp?maxwidth=1520&fidelity=grand
-Copied post from another forum
JohnnyP
03-16-2022, 11:06 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JTiXaEbMXXP2lpK1PHFscslYrooNwM8wi_7B8qig1HM/edit#gid=0
Distance to: Central&South
1.69345800 Greek_Florina
2.16594090 Aromanian
2.17135902 Albanian_Montenegro
2.48732788 Albanian_Kosovo
2.75368844 Albanian_Macedonia
3.22677858 Albanian_North_Albania
3.40052937 Torbesh
4.29675459 Bulgarian_Moldova
4.32860255 Greek_Thessaly
4.91425478 Greek_Thrace
Target: Central&South
Distance: 0.3387% / 0.33868561 | R2P
86.5 Albanian_Montenegro
13.5 Greek_Tsakonia
JohnnyP
03-17-2022, 08:33 PM
50 Macedonians from Central and South with sims G25 cooridinates,
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South09_K13_sim,0.1248,0.1457,0.0226,-0.0099,0.0245,-0.002,-0.0002,0.0039,0.0014,0.0117,0.0009,0.0031,-0.0074,0.0023,-0.012,0.0019,0.009,-0.0003,0.003,-0.0093,-0.0071,0.0016,0.001,-0.0011,0.0031
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South11_K13_sim,0.1213,0.1397,0.0183,-0.0025,0.0273,-0.0022,0.0012,0.0017,0.0048,0.0132,0.0007,0,-0.0092,-0.0002,-0.0072,-0.0028,0.0015,-0.0003,0.0044,0.0014,-0.0064,-0.0002,-0.0052,-0.0034,-0.0065
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South23_K13_sim,0.127,0.1474,0.0248,-0.0092,0.0269,-0.0038,-0.0022,0.0032,0.0012,0.0157,0.0018,0.0056,-0.0114,0.0028,-0.012,-0.0008,0.0062,0.0011,0.0047,-0.0096,-0.0053,0.0023,0.002,0.0012,0.0015
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South24_K13_sim,0.1275,0.1471,0.0268,-0.0109,0.0253,-0.0041,-0.0019,0.0046,0.0017,0.0161,0.0011,0.0058,-0.011,0.0026,-0.011,-0.001,0.0046,0.0019,0.0039,-0.0103,-0.0057,0.0028,0.0011,0.0008,0.0019
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South26_K13_sim,0.1217,0.1396,0.0136,-0.0064,0.0213,-0.0032,0.0007,0.0041,-0.0007,0.0038,0.0011,0.0005,-0.005,0.0068,-0.0137,-0.0021,0.0076,-0.0004,0.0047,-0.006,-0.007,0.0015,0.0023,-0.0004,-0.0011
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South27_K13_sim,0.1236,0.1489,0.027,-0.0078,0.0315,-0.0023,0.0001,0.0042,0.0073,0.0179,-0.0006,0.002,-0.0053,-0.0003,-0.0101,0.0028,0.008,0.0002,0.0029,-0.0053,-0.0071,0.0012,-0.004,0.0001,0.001
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South35_K13_sim,0.1235,0.1455,0.0208,-0.012,0.0234,-0.0042,0.0004,0.0029,0.0008,0.011,0.0009,0.0026,-0.0059,0.0044,-0.0132,0.0006,0.0071,0.001,0.0024,-0.0076,-0.0068,0.0014,0.0012,-0.0005,0.0008
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South36_K13_sim,0.1225,0.1436,0.0211,-0.0104,0.0263,0.0018,0.001,-0.0018,0.0025,0.011,-0.0019,0.0021,-0.0056,0.0037,-0.013,-0.0002,0.0058,-0.0007,0.0048,-0.0058,-0.0074,0.0003,0.0021,0.0008,0.0014
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South37_K13_sim,0.1227,0.1502,0.0212,-0.005,0.0285,-0.0026,0.0014,-0.0004,0.0039,0.0113,0.0016,0.0012,-0.0034,0.0016,-0.0087,-0.002,0.0009,0.0003,0.0024,-0.002,-0.0037,0.0007,-0.0039,-0.0044,-0.0016
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South41_K13_sim,0.124,0.1467,0.0149,-0.0122,0.0237,-0.0045,-0.0004,0.003,-0.0001,0.0079,0.001,0.0016,-0.005,0.006,-0.0132,-0.0001,0.0081,-0.0001,0.0025,-0.0098,-0.0082,0.0021,0.0009,-0.0006,0.0012
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South42_K13_sim,0.1215,0.1399,0.0171,-0.0067,0.0201,-0.0031,-0.0004,0.0073,0.0035,0.0072,-0.0011,0.0013,-0.0082,0.0029,-0.0113,0.0022,0.0061,-0.0034,0.0069,-0.0043,-0.0093,0.0036,-0.0016,0.0005,-0.0035
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South44_K13_sim,0.1242,0.1436,0.026,-0.0057,0.0293,0.0015,0.0022,0.0004,0.0028,0.0085,-0.0022,0.0009,-0.0024,0.0036,-0.0135,0.0054,0.011,-0.0016,0.004,-0.0056,-0.0095,0.0008,0.0004,0.0004,0.0021
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South45_K13_sim,0.1241,0.1414,0.017,-0.0014,0.026,-0.0016,0.0021,0.0016,0.0005,0.0052,-0.0002,0.0016,-0.005,0.0045,-0.0101,0.0011,0.0102,0.0002,0.0031,-0.0047,-0.0038,0.0007,0.0005,-0.0005,-0.0011
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South53_K13_sim,0.122,0.1429,0.018,-0.006,0.0295,-0.0007,0.0017,0.0013,0.0026,0.0092,-0.0008,-0.0002,-0.0049,0.005,-0.0123,-0.0008,0.0094,0.0002,0.0039,-0.003,-0.0071,0.0001,-0.0006,-0.0042,-0.0012
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South01_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1234,0.1462,0.0117,-0.0071,0.024,-0.0031,0.0003,0.0018,0.0015,0.0052,0.0018,0.0006,-0.0063,0.0063,-0.0122,-0.0041,0.0048,-0.0004,0.0043,-0.0057,-0.0061,0.0022,-0.0017,-0.004,-0.0017
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South02_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.122,0.1372,0.0252,-0.0044,0.0228,-0.0022,-0.0026,0.0037,0.0034,0.0126,-0.0001,0.0037,-0.0106,0.0019,-0.0095,0.003,0.0037,-0.002,0.0076,-0.0042,-0.0044,0.002,0.001,0.0014,-0.0023
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South03_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1216,0.1411,0.0111,-0.0111,0.0228,-0.0025,0.0002,0.0024,0.001,0.0052,0.0008,0.0006,-0.0063,0.0075,-0.0134,-0.0034,0.0071,0.0001,0.0034,-0.0087,-0.0048,0.0014,0.0025,-0.0025,0.0011
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South04_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1185,0.1404,0.0225,-0.0032,0.0215,0,0.001,0.0002,0.0007,0.008,-0.0021,0.0003,-0.0045,-0.0023,-0.0058,0.0071,0.0094,-0.0011,0.0028,-0.0022,-0.0055,0.0005,0.0025,0.0021,-0.0016
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South05_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1196,0.1436,0.0153,-0.005,0.0244,0.0004,0.0018,0.0028,-0.0013,0.0038,0.0011,0.0007,-0.0037,0.0083,-0.0148,-0.0025,0.01,-0.0005,0.0039,-0.0059,-0.0066,0.0011,0.004,-0.0021,0.0009
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South06_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1213,0.1464,0.0177,-0.0133,0.0284,0.0018,0.0002,-0.0008,0.0034,0.0124,-0.0021,0.0022,-0.0048,0.0048,-0.0124,-0.001,0.0089,-0.001,0.0045,-0.0051,-0.0091,-0.0002,0.0027,-0.0003,0.0029
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South07_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1214,0.1444,0.0184,-0.0026,0.0261,0.0009,0.0023,0.0031,-0.0016,0.0053,0.0003,0.0007,-0.0046,0.0045,-0.0154,0.0032,0.0146,-0.0014,0.0056,-0.0023,-0.0043,0.0015,0.0049,0.0021,0.0014
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South08_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1249,0.1449,0.0273,0.0006 ,0.0307,-0.001,0.0009,0.0007,0.0008,0.0099,-0.0007,0.0031,-0.004,0.0024,-0.0104,0.0055,0.0108,-0.0008,0.0055,-0.0062,-0.0078,0.0006,0.0029,0.0015,-0.0009
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South10_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1235,0.1388,0.0112,-0.0069,0.0265,-0.0018,0.0017,0.0022,0.0066,0.0079,0.004,-0.0006,-0.0122,0.0057,-0.0113,-0.0038,0.0079,0.0003,0.0033,-0.004,-0.0082,0.001,-0.0056,-0.0025,-0.0031
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South12_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1204,0.1406,0.0266,-0.0059,0.0254,0.0005,0.0014,0.0016,0.0038,0.0142,0 .001,0.0027,-0.0082,-0.0026,-0.0109,0.0085,0.0131,-0.0024,0.0031,-0.0027,-0.0049,-0.0015,0.0006,-0.0018,0.002
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South13_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1246,0.1445,0.0162,-0.0008,0.0279,-0.0013,0.002,0.0007,0.0046,0.0062,0.0033,-0.0001,-0.0083,0.0048,-0.0096,-0.0046,0.0036,0.0002,0.0034,-0.003,-0.0058,0.0015,-0.0051,-0.0046,-0.0028
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South14_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1244,0.1454,0.0192,-0.0074,0.0274,-0.0029,-0.0002,0.0011,0.0002,0.0089,0.0017,0.0022,-0.0056,0.0038,-0.0133,0.0047,0.0127,-0.0021,0.003,-0.0091,-0.0088,0.0007,0.0006,-0.0006,0.0014
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South15_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1218,0.1425,0.0271,-0.0091,0.0314,-0.0048,0.0024,0.0007,0.0047,0.0153,-0.0003,0.0018,-0.0056,0.0005,-0.0122,0.0046,0.0104,-0.0019,0.0029,-0.0049,-0.0037,0.0037,-0.0006,-0.0052,-0.0004
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South16_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1258,0.1471,0.0295,-0.0045,0.0319,0.002,0.0024,0.0015,0.004,0.0155,-0.0009,0.0045,-0.0058,0.0034,-0.0121,-0.001,0.0061,0.0003,0.0038,-0.0048,-0.0065,0.0029,0.0008,-0.0014,-0.001
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South19_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1204,0.1404,0.0245,-0.006,0.0283,-0.0019,0.0024,0.0029,0.0037,0.0112,-0.0013,0.001,-0.0026,0.0015,-0.0122,0.0098,0.0144,-0.0024,0.0014,-0.0021,-0.007,0.002,0.0001,0.0004,0.001
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South20_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1234,0.1446,0.018,-0.0054,0.025,-0.0006,0.0009,0.0037,0.0003,0.007,-0.001,0.0019,-0.004,0.0061,-0.0144,-0.0005,0.0081,-0.0012,0.007,-0.0051,-0.007,0.0025,0.0035,-0.0003,0.0003
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South21_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1251,0.1425,0.0179,-0.0022,0.0278,0.0006,0.0031,0.0007,0.0052,0.0081,0 .0023,0.0006,-0.0098,0.0042,-0.0099,-0.0033,0.0057,0.0002,0.004,-0.0029,-0.0065,0.0012,-0.0043,-0.0028,-0.0026
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South22_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1243,0.1467,0.0267,-0.0098,0.0345,-0.003,0.0019,-0.0008,0.0069,0.0172,0.0002,0.0023,-0.007,0.0012,-0.0119,0.0008,0.009,0.0001,0.0037,-0.0025,-0.0032,0.0019,-0.0008,-0.0054,0.0009
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South25_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1265,0.1461,0.0288,-0.0071,0.0266,-0.0025,-0.0004,0.0053,0.0016,0.0133,0.0004,0.0043,-0.0077,0.0025,-0.012,0.0025,0.008,0.0007,0.0041,-0.0083,-0.0064,0.003,0.0017,0.0015,0.0025
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South28_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1181,0.1355,0.0182,-0.0117,0.0207,-0.0004,0.0021,0.0022,0.0024,0.0111,0.001,0.0006,-0.0045,0.0005,-0.0125,0.0056,0.0138,-0.002,0.0013,-0.0027,-0.0053,0.0004,0.001,-0.0032,0.0032
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South29_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1242,0.1492,0.0156,-0.0056,0.027,-0.0032,0.0008,0.0002,0.0015,0.0067,0.002,0.0009,-0.0042,0.0055,-0.012,-0.0036,0.005,0.0005,0.0034,-0.005,-0.0042,0.0018,-0.0019,-0.0055,-0.0009
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South30_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1198,0.1404,0.0263,0.0001 ,0.0239,0.001,0.0019,0.0051,0.0019,0.008,-0.0017,0.0011,-0.0056,-0.0004,-0.0125,0.0072,0.0128,-0.0024,0.0067,-0.0002,-0.0053,0.0013,0.0034,0.0018,-0.0009
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South31_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1248,0.1452,0.022,-0.0063,0.0284,0.0041,0.0023,0,0.0002,0.0086,-0.0019,0.0013,-0.0041,0.0058,-0.0162,0.0016,0.0119,-0.0004,0.0066,-0.0033,-0.008,0.0007,0.004,0.0017,0.0029
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South32_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1229,0.141,0.0273,-0.0004,0.026,-0.0018,0.0008,0.0013,0.0012,0.0097,-0.0008,0.0039,-0.0071,0.0006,-0.0093,0.0075,0.01,-0.0023,0.0042,-0.0039,-0.007,0.0005,-0.0003,0.0023,-0.0019
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South17_K13_sim,0.1241,0.1431,0.0317,0.0014,0.0305 ,0.0037,0.005,0.0032,0.0025,0.0136,-0.0025,0.0039,0.0007,0.0032,-0.0108,0.0025,0.0075,0,0.006,-0.0028,-0.0053,0.0006,0.0058,-0.0033,0.0033
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South18_K13_sim,0.1219,0.1415,0.0277,-0.0024,0.0288,0.001,0.0041,0.0038,0.002,0.0102,-0.0007,0.002,-0.0034,0.0046,-0.0106,0.004,0.0101,-0.0007,0.0043,-0.0011,-0.0044,0.0014,0.0007,0.0006,0.0001
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South33_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.124,0.1428,0.0162,-0.0066,0.0281,-0.0035,0.0027,0.002,0.004,0.0082,0.0027,0,-0.0087,0.0048,-0.0121,-0.0018,0.0093,-0.0004,0.0031,-0.0052,-0.0065,0.0029,-0.0033,-0.0046,-0.0019
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South34_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.124,0.1443,0.0213,-0.0059,0.0272,0.0031,0.0022,0.0009,0.0001,0.0079,-0.0014,0.0012,-0.0043,0.0062,-0.0162,0.0011,0.0114,-0.0005,0.0064,-0.0034,-0.0077,0.0009,0.004,0.0011,0.0021
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South38_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1192,0.139,0.0219,-0.0094,0.0261,-0.0037,0.0013,0.0016,0.003,0.0128,-0.0006,0.0014,-0.0035,0.0025,-0.013,0.0097,0.0139,-0.0019,0.0004,-0.0027,-0.0064,0.0013,-0.0006,-0.0009,-0.0003
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South39_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1204,0.1405,0.0227,-0.0034,0.0214,-0.002,-0.0004,0.0085,0.0024,0.0094,-0.0023,0.0026,-0.0079,0.0006,-0.0127,0.0042,0.0076,-0.0041,0.0097,-0.0013,-0.0061,0.0046,0.0024,0.002,-0.0027
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South40_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1233,0.1426,0.0236,-0.0091,0.0275,-0.0001,0.0035,-0.0005,0.0014,0.0113,-0.001,0.0019,-0.0062,0.004,-0.0147,0.0015,0.0111,0.0006,0.0046,-0.0022,-0.0054,0.0011,0.0017,-0.0017,0.0002
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South43_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1256,0.1478,0.0193,-0.0066,0.0272,-0.0022,0.0007,0.003,0.0009,0.01,0.0001,0.003,-0.0038,0.0067,-0.0124,-0.0036,0.0049,0.0011,0.0048,-0.0085,-0.0064,0.0021,0.0023,-0.0017,0.0011
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South46_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1242,0.142,0.0216,0.0006, 0.0275,-0.0001,0.0028,0.0035,0.0038,0.0047,0.0012,-0.0007,-0.0052,0.0043,-0.0115,0.0029,0.0096,-0.0017,0.0035,-0.0034,-0.0091,0.0019,-0.0037,-0.0017,-0.0019
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South47_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1243,0.1463,0.0139,-0.0097,0.0276,-0.0034,0.0008,0.0009,0.0016,0.0067,0.0012,0.0003,-0.0042,0.0072,-0.0151,-0.0001,0.0113,0,0.0033,-0.0065,-0.0074,0.0015,-0.001,-0.004,0.0009
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South48_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1244,0.1441,0.0241,-0.0054,0.0284,0.0014,0.0023,0.0018,0.0016,0.0074,-0.0019,0,-0.0016,0.0039,-0.0123,0.0072,0.0128,-0.0021,0.0037,-0.0053,-0.0103,0.0013,0.0004,0.0019,0.0017
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South49_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1217,0.1439,0.0112,-0.0096,0.0291,-0.009,-0.0004,0.0004,0.002,0.0108,0.0014,0.0003,-0.0042,0.0053,-0.0137,-0.001,0.0098,0.0009,0.0026,-0.0037,-0.004,0.0006,-0.0013,-0.0065,-0.001
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South50_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1239,0.1455,0.0128,-0.0094,0.0254,-0.004,-0.0006,0.0009,-0.0007,0.0051,0.0014,0.0011,-0.0043,0.0071,-0.0148,0.0013,0.0116,-0.0014,0.0032,-0.01,-0.0092,0.0015,0.0009,-0.0009,0.0007
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South51_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1246,0.146,0.0198,-0.0096,0.0281,-0.0056,0.0026,0.0023,0.0002,0.0115,0.0011,0.003,-0.0069,0.0047,-0.0127,-0.0045,0.0065,0.0003,0.0048,-0.0084,-0.0032,0.005,0.0025,-0.0057,-0.0005
North_Macedonian:NMacedonia_Central&South52_lowsnp_K13_sim,0.1215,0.1477,0.0146,-0.0206,0.0284,-0.0048,-0.0004,-0.0017,0.0038,0.0175,0,0.002,-0.0066,0.0042,-0.0144,0.001,0.0104,0.0006,0.0033,-0.004,-0.0055,0.0009,0.0011,-0.0058,0.0019
PCA
Macedonian G25 sims are with aquamarine dots
Original G25 the regional averages with purple dots
G25 Greek_Florina samples with orange dots
Macedonian with the good-quality Ancestry-derived sims as gold dots
https://i.imgur.com/NXL2NGw.png
JohnnyP
03-21-2022, 08:23 PM
Central&South Macedonians G25 coordinates sims on Balkan Migration calculator by ph2ter 2021 ;
https://i.imgur.com/I72rb1l.png
https://i.imgur.com/6Q5b4U8.png
JohnnyP
04-18-2022, 06:03 PM
ZV9753611
https://i.imgur.com/mv3a4N7.png
XB3660459 - Weird results , high West Asian , y-dna R1b , mt-DNA R1a
https://i.imgur.com/K1haI56.png
YB7782043
https://i.imgur.com/dHhodYn.png
kingmob
04-18-2022, 06:16 PM
Which clade is predicted for the high West Asian R1b, mate?
Varda
04-19-2022, 09:36 PM
Macedonian guy with ancestry from Skopje, Veles and Ohrid published his K13 on the one Serbian forum 2 hours ago (his y dna is R1b-L277) https://i.ibb.co/L9FGDbn/img-20220419-231941.jpg
He also published result of his friend from Veles who is J-L70 https://i.ibb.co/LSDbJ3D/IMG-20220419-232149.jpg
JohnnyP
04-20-2022, 12:14 PM
Macedonian guy with ancestry from Skopje, Veles and Ohrid published his K13 on the one Serbian forum 2 hours ago (his y dna is R1b-L277) https://i.ibb.co/L9FGDbn/img-20220419-231941.jpg
He also published result of his friend from Veles who is J-L70 https://i.ibb.co/LSDbJ3D/IMG-20220419-232149.jpg
Thank you broski , are there gedmatch kits and where he posted ? :D
Varda
04-20-2022, 12:20 PM
Thank you broski , are there gedmatch kits and where he posted ? :D
There is no kits, he posted here https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=5197.msg171652#msg171652
JohnnyP
04-20-2022, 12:22 PM
There is no kits, he posted here https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=5197.msg171652#msg171652
Thanks ! Do you know origin of R1b-L277 , I have seen few more Macedonians with same ydna, I can't find anything.
Varda
04-20-2022, 12:32 PM
Thanks ! Do you know origin of R1b-L277 , I have seen few more Macedonians with same ydna, I can't find anything.
Unfortunately no.
I found this https://www.facebook.com/groups/5488339316/permalink/10158295372784317/
MandM
04-21-2022, 06:18 AM
Thanks ! Do you know origin of R1b-L277 , I have seen few more Macedonians with same ydna, I can't find anything.
I have also found that it could be west Asien
JohnnyP
04-21-2022, 12:05 PM
I have also found that it could be west Asien
Yeah , I saw that too , also I found may be a Italian or Jewish , but post is old.
Originally posted by Raffaele View Post (https://forums.familytreedna.com/forum/paternal-lineages-y-dna/y-dna-haplogroups-snps-advanced/16150-r1b-l277#post16150)
R1b L277 is Italian (Italian refugium?)or Jewish?
R1b-L277 is just a subclade of R1b-Z2103. You can have a good look at R1b-L277 phylogeny in the R1b1a2 (P312- U106-) DNA Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new). Have a look at subgroup _b2. R1b-L23: Z2103+ Z2105+ L277+ and the project research tree. R1b-L277 is a very diverse group.
There are a few knuckheads making claims of a Italian refugium or that R1b-L277 is Jewish. It's rubish. R1b-L277 includes Jews, Italians, Cossacks, Armenians, Assyrians, Pakistanis and Indians, just to name a few.
If you are L277+, please join theR1b1a2 (P312- U106-) DNA Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new) and help us develop the R1b-L277 haplogroup.
R1b-M269>L23>Z2103>L277
Last edited by D.Clade (https://forums.familytreedna.com/member/107975-d-clade); 1 March 2015, 01:21 PM.
MandM
04-21-2022, 02:01 PM
Yeah , I saw that too , also I found may be a Italian or Jewish , but post is old.
Originally posted by Raffaele View Post (https://forums.familytreedna.com/forum/paternal-lineages-y-dna/y-dna-haplogroups-snps-advanced/16150-r1b-l277#post16150)
R1b L277 is Italian (Italian refugium?)or Jewish?
R1b-L277 is just a subclade of R1b-Z2103. You can have a good look at R1b-L277 phylogeny in the R1b1a2 (P312- U106-) DNA Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new). Have a look at subgroup _b2. R1b-L23: Z2103+ Z2105+ L277+ and the project research tree. R1b-L277 is a very diverse group.
There are a few knuckheads making claims of a Italian refugium or that R1b-L277 is Jewish. It's rubish. R1b-L277 includes Jews, Italians, Cossacks, Armenians, Assyrians, Pakistanis and Indians, just to name a few.
If you are L277+, please join theR1b1a2 (P312- U106-) DNA Project (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new) and help us develop the R1b-L277 haplogroup.
R1b-M269>L23>Z2103>L277
Last edited by D.Clade (https://forums.familytreedna.com/member/107975-d-clade); 1 March 2015, 01:21 PM.
Yeah saw the same, but as you said it was old,so I did not nwtion that one,
JohnnyP
04-26-2022, 04:59 PM
K13 Eurogenes
Kit number: UV1897207, Skopje
Population
North_Atlantic 22.21 Pct
Baltic 19.06 Pct
West_Med 20.42 Pct
West_Asian 12.54 Pct
East_Med 22.54 Pct
Red_Sea 3 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.07 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.16 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 5.344234
2 Bulgarian @ 6.287579
3 Romanian @ 8.308423
4 Tuscan @ 11.749617
5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.941739
6 Central_Greek @ 12.784915
7 Serbian @ 13.127812
8 West_Sicilian @ 13.611650
9 East_Sicilian @ 14.275133
10 North_Italian @ 14.488072
11 Ashkenazi @ 17.164593
12 South_Italian @ 17.508120
13 Moldavian @ 20.137115
14 Hungarian @ 22.484344
15 Portuguese @ 23.010172
16 Croatian @ 23.384445
17 Spanish_Extremadura @ 23.561920
18 Spanish_Galicia @ 24.051050
19 Sephardic_Jewish @ 24.199009
20 Italian_Jewish @ 24.202562
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.1% Bulgarian + 30.9% West_Sicilian @ 1.77
2 68.2% Romanian + 31.8% South_Italian @ 1.81
3 66.2% Bulgarian + 33.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.81
4 60.9% Romanian + 39.1% Central_Greek @ 1.91
5 57.3% South_Italian + 42.7% Croatian @ 1.97
6 50.7% Central_Greek + 49.3% Serbian @ 1.98
7 83.5% Greek_Thessaly + 16.5% Austrian @ 2.03
8 62.5% Greek_Thessaly + 37.5% Romanian @ 2.06
9 84.9% Greek_Thessaly + 15.1% East_German @ 2.11
10 57.3% Serbian + 42.7% South_Italian @ 2.13
11 64.5% South_Italian + 35.5% South_Polish @ 2.14
12 73.1% Greek_Thessaly + 26.9% Serbian @ 2.16
13 63.9% Romanian + 36.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.2
14 74.7% Bulgarian + 25.3% South_Italian @ 2.2
15 66.4% Bulgarian + 33.6% Tuscan @ 2.26
16 82.6% Greek_Thessaly + 17.4% Hungarian @ 2.28
17 65% Central_Greek + 35% Croatian @ 2.32
18 67.3% South_Italian + 32.7% Polish @ 2.35
19 89.1% Greek_Thessaly + 10.9% Swedish @ 2.36
20 64.1% Central_Greek + 35.9% Hungarian @ 2.37
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.
Kit UV1897207
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 29.95
2 Atlantic_Med 28.74
3 North_European 28.25
4 Southwest_Asian 7.64
5 Gedrosia 4.94
6 Southeast_Asian 0.48
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 7.75
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.92
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.06
4 Romanians (Behar) 8.7
5 Greek (Dodecad) 10.34
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.09
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.27
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.52
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.05
10 North_Italian (HGDP) 16.7
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.04
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.08
13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.66
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.88
15 Hungarians (Behar) 22.65
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.84
17 Baleares (1000Genomes) 24.81
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.61
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 25.65
20 French (HGDP) 25.84
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 27.9% German (Dodecad) @ 1.09
2 78.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.18
3 50.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 49.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 1.34
4 78.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.57
5 61.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 38.9% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.68
6 61.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 38.4% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.8
7 51.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 48.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.81
8 58.4% Romanians (Behar) + 41.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.83
9 53.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 46.9% Romanians (Behar) @ 1.98
10 60.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 39.1% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.99
11 69% Greek (Dodecad) + 31% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.07
12 59% Romanians (Behar) + 41% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.5
13 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.63
14 73.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 26.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.66
15 57.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 42.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.68
16 60.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 39.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.76
17 59.7% Romanians (Behar) + 40.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.86
18 61.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 38.7% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.92
19 75.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.94
20 61.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 38.2% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.96
JohnnyP
04-26-2022, 05:13 PM
K13 Eurogenes
Kit number: UV1897207, Skopje
Population
North_Atlantic 22.21 Pct
Baltic 19.06 Pct
West_Med 20.42 Pct
West_Asian 12.54 Pct
East_Med 22.54 Pct
Red_Sea 3 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.07 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.16 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 5.344234
2 Bulgarian @ 6.287579
3 Romanian @ 8.308423
4 Tuscan @ 11.749617
5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.941739
6 Central_Greek @ 12.784915
7 Serbian @ 13.127812
8 West_Sicilian @ 13.611650
9 East_Sicilian @ 14.275133
10 North_Italian @ 14.488072
11 Ashkenazi @ 17.164593
12 South_Italian @ 17.508120
13 Moldavian @ 20.137115
14 Hungarian @ 22.484344
15 Portuguese @ 23.010172
16 Croatian @ 23.384445
17 Spanish_Extremadura @ 23.561920
18 Spanish_Galicia @ 24.051050
19 Sephardic_Jewish @ 24.199009
20 Italian_Jewish @ 24.202562
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.
Kit UV1897207
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 29.95
2 Atlantic_Med 28.74
3 North_European 28.25
4 Southwest_Asian 7.64
5 Gedrosia 4.94
6 Southeast_Asian 0.48
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 7.75
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.92
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.06
4 Romanians (Behar) 8.7
5 Greek (Dodecad) 10.34
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.09
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.27
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.52
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.05
10 North_Italian (HGDP) 16.7
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.04
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.08
13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.66
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.88
15 Hungarians (Behar) 22.65
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.84
17 Baleares (1000Genomes) 24.81
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.61
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 25.65
20 French (HGDP) 25.84
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 27.9% German (Dodecad) @ 1.09
2 78.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.18
3 50.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 49.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 1.34
4 78.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.57
5 61.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 38.9% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.68
6 61.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 38.4% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.8
7 51.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 48.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.81
8 58.4% Romanians (Behar) + 41.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.83
9 53.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 46.9% Romanians (Behar) @ 1.98
10 60.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 39.1% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.99
11 69% Greek (Dodecad) + 31% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.07
12 59% Romanians (Behar) + 41% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.5
13 75% Greek (Dodecad) + 25% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.63
14 73.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 26.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.66
15 57.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 42.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.68
16 60.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 39.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.76
17 59.7% Romanians (Behar) + 40.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.86
18 61.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 38.7% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.92
19 75.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.94
20 61.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 38.2% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.96
JohnnyP
04-27-2022, 03:35 PM
Two from North
Kit number: DT5407197, Kumanovo - Northeast ,
Population
North_Atlantic 24.03 Pct
Baltic 20.89 Pct
West_Med 18.79 Pct
West_Asian 11.34 Pct
East_Med 18.11 Pct
Red_Sea 1.38 Pct
South_Asian 1.9 Pct
East_Asian 1.06 Pct
Siberian 1.48 Pct
Amerindian 0.24 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.74 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
Target: kumanovo
Distance: 129.3829% / 1.29382891 | R3P
64.4 Romanian
29.4 Italian_Emilia
6.2 Tajik_Tajikistan
Kit number: XS4668810, Tetovo - Northwest , y-dna R1b - R-CTS9219
Population
North_Atlantic 23.79 Pct
Baltic 20.9 Pct
West_Med 21.19 Pct
West_Asian 11.33 Pct
East_Med 15.48 Pct
Red_Sea 3.67 Pct
South_Asian 1.95 Pct
East_Asian 0.33 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.45 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.86 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
JohnnyP
04-28-2022, 03:58 PM
On Myheritage Top ethnicities with Greek and South Italian ethnicity ,
https://i.imgur.com/k8y0MoH.png
Albanians and Macedonians have more than Cyprus :D
JohnnyP
04-28-2022, 04:45 PM
Kit number: SY5708165, Skopje - North ,
Population
North_Atlantic 22.7 Pct
Baltic 21.87 Pct
West_Med 19.62 Pct
West_Asian 9.74 Pct
East_Med 21.55 Pct
Red_Sea 2.4 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.91 Pct
Amerindian 0.31 Pct
Oceanian 0.61 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.3 Pct
Target: skopje
Distance: 76.4088% / 0.76408801 | R3P
80.0 Albanian
13.0 Estonian
7.0 Ashkenazi
JohnnyP
05-04-2022, 12:49 PM
Kit number: HW4801904,
Population
North_Atlantic 23.4 Pct
Baltic 17.66 Pct
West_Med 22.46 Pct
West_Asian 10.96 Pct
East_Med 21.79 Pct
Red_Sea 0.61 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.28 Pct
Amerindian 1.39 Pct
Oceanian 0.45 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Target: HW4801904
Distance: 272.7098% / 2.72709754 | ADC: 0.5x RC
90.0 South_Balkans:Albanian
10.0 Atlantic:French_Central
Target: HW4801904
Distance: 260.5830% / 2.60583016 | R3P
71.0 South_Balkans:Albanian
23.0 Italian:Italian_Emilia
6.0 Inuit:West_Greenlander
Dodecad K12b
Kit HW4801904
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 30.28
2 Caucasus 27.93
3 North_European 27.78
4 Southwest_Asian 6.3
5 Gedrosia 5.63
6 Siberian 1.71
7 South_Asian 0.37
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 6.87
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.44
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.49
4 Romanians (Behar) 9.72
5 TSI30 (Metspalu) 11.33
6 Tuscan (HGDP) 11.39
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 11.88
8 N_Italian (Dodecad) 11.94
9 Greek (Dodecad) 11.97
10 North_Italian (HGDP) 14.75
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.77
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.82
13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.99
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.18
15 Hungarians (Behar) 22.09
16 Baleares (1000Genomes) 22.53
17 Galicia (1000Genomes) 23.38
18 French (HGDP) 23.64
19 French (Dodecad) 23.74
20 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 24.1
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 30.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.06
2 70.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 29.4% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.17
3 77.7% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 22.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.18
4 86.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.22
5 59.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 40.7% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.23
6 75.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 24.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.34
7 86.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.36
8 86.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.1% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.43
9 78.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 21.5% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.44
10 71.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 28.3% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.45
11 73.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 26.2% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.46
12 73.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 26.8% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.47
13 71.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 28.2% English (Dodecad) @ 2.5
14 78.6% Tuscan (HGDP) + 21.4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.51
15 85% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 15% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.57
16 73.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 26.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.59
17 71.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 28.6% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.6
18 54.1% Romanians (Behar) + 45.9% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.6
19 72.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 27.3% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.62
20 58.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 41.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.65
Are there any Macedonians with Baltic component 30+?
JohnnyP
05-04-2022, 04:52 PM
Are there any Macedonians with Baltic component 30+?
I didn't saw by now , there are Macedo-Serbs , Macedo-Bosnians , Macedo-Croats with 26-30 Baltic and they are usually from Northeast Kumanovo / Kriva Palanka , but full Macedonians no.
JohnnyP
05-05-2022, 02:37 PM
double post
JohnnyP
05-05-2022, 02:46 PM
Kit number: HC6365673, - Pelagonia
Population
North_Atlantic 21.84 Pct
Baltic 20.55 Pct
West_Med 19.69 Pct
West_Asian 11.57 Pct
East_Med 23.63 Pct
Red_Sea 1.25 Pct
South_Asian 0.81 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.37 Pct
Oceanian 0.16 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.13 Pct
Target: Pelagonia
Distance: 197.9163% / 1.97916271 | R5P
84.6 South_Balkans:Albanian
7.4 Baltics:Lithuanian
4.4 Ashkenazi_Jewish:Ashkenazi
3.6 Armenian:Armenian
JohnnyP
05-06-2022, 03:57 PM
Kit number: UD3330120, Skopje - Northeast
Population
North_Atlantic 23.8 Pct
Baltic 22.85 Pct
West_Med 20.26 Pct
West_Asian 10.76 Pct
East_Med 20.95 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.45 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.94 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Target: Skopje
Distance: 271.5588% / 2.71558811
80.0 South_Balkans:Albanian
13.0 Eastern_European:Belarusian_Minsk
5.0 Alpine:German_South
1.0 Sardinian:Italian_Sardinia
1.0 Transcaucasian:Abhkasian
JohnnyP
05-08-2022, 02:38 PM
Kit number: UD3330120, Skopje - Northeast
Population
North_Atlantic 23.8 Pct
Baltic 22.85 Pct
West_Med 20.26 Pct
West_Asian 10.76 Pct
East_Med 20.95 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.45 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.94 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Target: Skopje
Distance: 271.5588% / 2.71558811
80.0 South_Balkans:Albanian
13.0 Eastern_European:Belarusian_Minsk
5.0 Alpine:German_South
1.0 Sardinian:Italian_Sardinia
1.0 Transcaucasian:Abhkasian
This guy from Skopje is y-dna R1b-L277 , there are many Macedonians with this haplogroup , but still I can't find nothing specific about this y-dna.
https://i.imgur.com/cSzlHXE.png
And also on MyTrueAncestry this guy
https://i.imgur.com/Xuq3oIo.png
https://i.imgur.com/QFo3CQB.png
Varda
05-11-2022, 01:18 PM
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Србиновски from western Macedonia R1a-M512, real Србин (Serb). :)
https://i.postimg.cc/1zFpyJc3/R1a.png
JohnnyP
05-11-2022, 01:26 PM
Србиновски from western Macedonia R1a-M512, real Србин (Serb). :)
Yeah , but I assume also KITEski is serbian too :P hahahaha
Varda
05-11-2022, 01:31 PM
Yeah , but I assume also KITEski is serbian too :P hahahaha
Бошњаковски (Бошњак = Bosniak) from Bitola R1b-L23, and another Србиновски from western Macedonia R1b-PF7558.
https://i.postimg.cc/bJj1rk3H/R1b.png
JohnnyP
05-12-2022, 12:58 AM
Kit number: A682893,
Population
North_Atlantic 19.32 Pct
Baltic 20.54 Pct
West_Med 20.49 Pct
West_Asian 11.27 Pct
East_Med 25.04 Pct
Red_Sea 2.32 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.73 Pct
Amerindian 0.29 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Target: Marija
Distance: 251.9336% / 2.51933567 | ADC: 1x RC
55.6 Aromanian
44.4 Greek_North
Target: Marija
Distance: 231.8579% / 2.31857919 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.0 Greek_North
35.0 Aromanian
13.0 Pomak_Greece
Kit number: ZV9753611,
Population
North_Atlantic 23.55 Pct
Baltic 21.36 Pct
West_Med 19.43 Pct
West_Asian 8.31 Pct
East_Med 23.47 Pct
Red_Sea 1.12 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.14 Pct
Siberian 0.79 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.07 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.77 Pct
Target: kit
Distance: 351.3700% / 3.51369981 | ADC: 0.5x RC
85.2 Aromanian
10.6 Austrian_Burgenland
4.2 Italian_North_Alpine
JohnnyP
05-16-2022, 12:37 PM
My two friends got their results finally,
Macedonian from Kumanovo - Northeast , y-dna G2a3b1
Kit number: RB9732063,
Population
North_Atlantic 16.5 Pct
Baltic 24.92 Pct
West_Med 19.73 Pct
West_Asian 12.46 Pct
East_Med 25.31 Pct
Red_Sea 0.18 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.44 Pct
Oceanian 0.46 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Distance to: kumanovo1
5.96895301 Greek_Thrace
6.55711827 Pomak_Greece
7.06550069 Pomak_Bulgaria
7.13708624 Greek_West
7.21465869 Greek_Florina
7.63204429 Bulgarian_Southeastern
7.63905753 Bulgarian_Southcentral
7.70160373 Greek_CentralMacedonia
7.80283282 Aromanian
Target: kumanovo1
Distance: 504.7320% / 5.04732033 | ADC: 0.5x RC
53.4 Pomak_Greece
43.0 Greek_West
3.6 Greek_Thrace
Target: kumanovo1
Distance: 530.8101% / 5.30810077 | ADC: 1x RC
58.6 Greek_Thrace
41.4 Pomak_Greece
https://i.imgur.com/veu11so.png
And MyTrueAncestry :D
https://i.imgur.com/mlrblCP.png
https://i.imgur.com/Mv4Zwfp.png
And my second friend 75% Macedonian from Kumanovo - Northeast , and one grandmother from North Serbian city Zrenjanin,
He is y-dna R1b-L277 ,
Kit number: KC9487928,
Population
North_Atlantic 21.14 Pct
Baltic 26.37 Pct
West_Med 16.33 Pct
West_Asian 7.08 Pct
East_Med 24.02 Pct
Red_Sea 1.1 Pct
South_Asian 0.98 Pct
East_Asian 0.82 Pct
Siberian 1.67 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.15 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.33 Pct
Target: kumanovo2
Distance: 289.6988% / 2.89698774 | R3P
45.0 Greek_Lefkada
29.2 Latvian
25.8 Jew_Ashkenazi
https://i.imgur.com/261lNeZ.png
And MyTrueAncestry
https://i.imgur.com/kI5osTf.png
https://i.imgur.com/mH4pf2I.png
JohnnyP
05-23-2022, 01:23 PM
Kit number: WX1880513,
Population
North_Atlantic 21.14 Pct
Baltic 21.49 Pct
West_Med 20.27 Pct
West_Asian 11.46 Pct
East_Med 21.74 Pct
Red_Sea 3.23 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.67 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Distance to: kit
2.07670412 Greek_Florina
2.12372315 Aromanian
2.32359635 Macedonian_South
2.65248940 Macedonian_North
2.96626027 Albanian_Montenegro
3.18637725 Macedonian_Central
Target: kit
Distance: 166.8182% / 1.66818240 | ADC: 1x RC
41.4 Aromanian
32.2 Macedonian_North
26.4 Greek_Florina
Target: kit
Distance: 78.3964% / 0.78396440 | R3P
45.0 Greek_Kefalonia
32.4 Albanian_North_Albania
22.6 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)
JohnnyP
05-27-2022, 06:01 PM
Kit number: CP2500864, Macedonian from Southwest city Struga, Y-DNA J2a1b1 - J2-CTS333 (J2-CTS4230, J2-CTS7193)
Population
North_Atlantic 18.91 Pct
Baltic 17.64 Pct
West_Med 23.69 Pct
West_Asian 9.23 Pct
East_Med 25.55 Pct
Red_Sea 2.57 Pct
South_Asian 0.11 Pct
East_Asian 1.65 Pct
Siberian 0.05 Pct
Amerindian 0.24 Pct
Oceanian 0.37 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Distance to: Struga
3.67722722 Greek_Arcadia
3.96623247 Torbesh
4.05905161 Albanian_North_Albania
4.24902342 Albanian_Macedonia
4.37707665 Albanian_South_Albania
4.87829888 Greek_Thessaly
4.95198950 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.16579132 Greek_Euboea_South
5.56403630 Albanian_Central_Albania
5.58375322 Greek_West
5.66973544 Greek_Peloponnese
5.75813338 Greek_Messenia
5.93204855 Greek_Laconia
6.04048011 Greek_Achaea
6.22649179 Macedonian_South
6.41853566 Albanian_Kosovo
6.45254213 Greek_Epirus
6.46793630 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
6.47473552 Greek_Florina
7.19572790 Aromanian
7.68524560 Greek_Athens
7.69215834 Macedonian_Central
8.05090678 Greek_Central
8.15677019 Greek_Thrace
8.35495063 Albanian_Montenegro
Mixed Mode:
1 91.02% Greek_Thessaly + 8.98% Sardinian @ 3.631
2 94.92% Greek_Thessaly + 5.08% Southwest_French @ 4.587
3 90.23% Greek_Thessaly + 9.77% North_Italian @ 4.632
4 94.14% Greek_Thessaly + 5.86% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.635
5 94.92% Greek_Thessaly + 5.08% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.648
6 95.70% Greek_Thessaly + 4.30% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.670
7 96.48% Greek_Thessaly + 3.52% French_Basque @ 4.670
8 94.92% Greek_Thessaly + 5.08% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.671
9 94.92% Greek_Thessaly + 5.08% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.696
10 94.92% Greek_Thessaly + 5.08% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.710
Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.896
2 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% West_Sicilian + 25% Bulgarian @ 4.970
3 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Tuscan @ 5.081
4 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% North_Italian @ 5.252
5 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% West_Sicilian + 25% Romanian @ 5.354
6 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% West_Sicilian @ 5.423
7 25% West_Sicilian + 25% West_Sicilian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian @ 5.467
8 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Bulgarian @ 5.481
9 25% Bulgarian + 25% Bulgarian + 25% East_Sicilian + 25% Sardinian @ 5.524
10 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Greek_Thessaly + 25% Central_Greek + 25% Bulgarian @ 5.563
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JohnnyP
05-29-2022, 05:44 PM
Similar Macedonian like previous one
Kit number: AD9961446,
Population
North_Atlantic 18.93 Pct
Baltic 17.64 Pct
West_Med 23.29 Pct
West_Asian 9.51 Pct
East_Med 26.2 Pct
Red_Sea 3.04 Pct
South_Asian 1.19 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.19 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Distance to: kit
3.19158268 Greek_Arcadia
4.06157605 Albanian_South_Albania
4.19693936 Albanian_North_Albania
4.25203481 Torbesh
4.26258138 Albanian_Macedonia
4.51080924 Greek_Thessaly
4.58290301 Greek_CentralMacedonia
4.76527019 Greek_Euboea_South
4.94520980 Greek_Peloponnese
5.14181874 Greek_Messenia
5.24675138 Greek_Laconia
5.35461483 Greek_West
5.45744446 Albanian_Central_Albania
5.60637138 Greek_Achaea
5.97696411 Greek_Epirus
6.06859127 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
6.24048075 Macedonian_South
6.44718543 Greek_Florina
6.56298712 Albanian_Kosovo
7.12423329 Aromanian
7.15278967 Greek_Athens
7.42584002 Greek_Central
7.91617963 Macedonian_Central
8.07372900 Greek_Thrace
8.18741718 Greek_Lefkada
Target: kit
Distance: 144.4010% / 1.44400957 | R3P
72.0 Greek_Tsakonia
14.8 Latvian
13.2 Sardinian
Target: kit
Distance: 188.3075% / 1.88307451 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.2 Greek_Arcadia
27.0 Greek_Lefkada
6.8 Latvian
6.4 Sardinian
2.6 Roma_Wallachia
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.4% Greek_Thessaly + 6.6% Sardinian @ 2.89
2 96.7% Greek_Thessaly + 3.3% Southwest_French @ 3.51
3 96.6% Greek_Thessaly + 3.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.54
4 94.2% Greek_Thessaly + 5.8% North_Italian @ 3.54
5 97.1% Greek_Thessaly + 2.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.55
6 97.5% Greek_Thessaly + 2.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.56
7 98.2% Greek_Thessaly + 1.8% French_Basque @ 3.56
8 97.1% Greek_Thessaly + 2.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.56
9 97.5% Greek_Thessaly + 2.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.57
10 97.3% Greek_Thessaly + 2.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.57
Albertón
05-29-2022, 06:56 PM
Good results
JohnnyP
05-31-2022, 01:11 PM
Kit number: MT9456894, - Y-DNA J2a1b1 - J2-CTS333
Population
North_Atlantic 21.52 Pct
Baltic 21.42 Pct
West_Med 23.08 Pct
West_Asian 8.61 Pct
East_Med 19.66 Pct
Red_Sea 2.74 Pct
South_Asian 0.23 Pct
East_Asian 1.04 Pct
Siberian 1.1 Pct
Amerindian 0.6 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
K36 - G25 sims
Distance to: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
0.01893186 Albanian
0.01952152 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02079396 Bulgarian
0.02275234 Greek_Macedonia
0.02404184 Rumelia_East
0.02556340 Romanian
0.02690116 Italian_Northeast
0.02719951 Greek_Thessaly
0.02921108 Swiss_Italian
0.02927337 Italian_Veneto
0.03138010 Italian_Piedmont
0.03288252 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03334290 Montenegrin
0.03388284 Greek_Peloponnese
0.03499911 Italian_Bergamo
0.03549461 Serbian
0.03601769 Italian_Tuscany
0.03641228 Italian_Liguria
0.03895149 Italian_Lombardy
0.04098827 Italian_Marche
0.04224569 Italian_Umbria
0.04246190 French_Corsica
0.04326875 Moldovan
0.04350579 French_Provence
0.04494304 Greek_Laconia
Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.0800% / 0.01080020 | ADC: 1x RC
51.4 Albanian
28.2 Bulgarian
20.4 Italian_Northeast
Balkan Migration by ph2ter
Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.4202% / 0.01420241
74.6 __IllyricRoman
25.4 __Slavic
New thing , seems like fun
https://i.imgur.com/kRlI3Sw.png
JohnnyP
06-20-2022, 07:32 PM
Little update for Central and South Macedonians , I will start with posting now averages per city not region :D I think I have enough kits from each city.
<tbody>
Region&Kit
North Atlantic
Baltic
West Med
West Asian
East Med
Red Sea
South Asian
East Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
Northeast African
Sub-Saharan
South&Central - TB5953993
26.15
19.03
19.35
11.39
21.87
0.75
0
0.19
0
1.04
0.22
0
0
South&Central - H686285
25.76
19.67
21.07
5.86
22.31
4.18
0
0.44
0.39
0
0.32
0
0
South&Central - NT9869266
25.74
19.17
18.22
9.22
23.84
1.97
0
1.84
0
0
0
0
0
South&Central - QZ3309456
25.5
20.04
18.87
10.65
19.83
4.11
0
0.59
0.1
0.3
0
0
0
South&Central - PG2135618
25.43
18.98
15.67
13.23
22.64
2.18
0.4
0
0.24
0.25
0.21
0.73
0
South&Central - ET3431273
25.16
20.4
16.41
8.82
26.46
1.98
0
0
0
0.54
0.21
0
0
South&Central - SB5534115
24.95
18.23
16.98
11.13
23.42
2.32
0.24
0.65
0.42
1.29
0
0.3
0.05
South&Central - TG1266172
24.87
18.4
18.76
13.55
20.15
2.56
0
1.07
0.17
0
0.48
0
0
South&Central - BJ5418586
24.57
20.39
23.71
11.77
15.85
2.44
1.27
0
0
0
0
0
0
South&Central - A442462
24.53
19.91
18.39
11.87
23.57
0.42
0
0.45
0
0.26
0.3
0.29
0
South&Central - T847009
24.32
19.78
19.27
11.46
21.06
2.55
0.31
0
0
0
1.25
0
0
South&Central - A673694
24.31
20.31
21.45
12.17
19.52
0.53
0
0.46
0.85
0
0
0.36
0
South&Central - UA6443626
24.31
20.43
20.04
11.38
22.13
0.27
0
0
0.84
0
0.11
0.49
0
South&Central - CU1029191
24.27
18.19
21.47
12.65
20.38
2.18
0
0
0.17
0.6
0
0
0.09
South&Central - QL3384505
23.99
18.29
17.65
13.16
22.8
1.04
2.34
0
0
0
0
0.72
0
South&Central - AX1603802
23.98
19.05
17.81
11.9
22.86
2.55
1.84
0
0
0
0
0
0
South&Central - MG6259787
23.82
19.74
21.45
6.76
22.94
3.34
0
1
0
0.63
0.31
0
0
South&Central - M743616
23.77
19.74
19.32
10.65
22.83
0.72
0.99
0.87
0
0.83
0
0.27
0
South&Central - A083622
23.76
19.21
19.1
11.09
23.3
0.7
0.96
0
1.19
0
0.7
0
0
South&Central - A752924
23.73
19.67
19.77
9.43
22.04
4.54
0
0
0.29
0
0.54
0
0
South&Central - TV8541178
23.63
17.64
19.48
11.72
23.83
2.14
0
0
0
0.52
1.04
0
0
South&Central - FS2160700
23.56
21.69
18.19
8.87
22.83
2.85
0
0
0
0.79
1.09
0
0.13
South&Central - HW4801904
23.4
17.66
22.46
10.96
21.79
0.61
0
0
1.28
1.39
0.45
0
0
South&Central - M517367
23.34
19.96
20.68
12.16
20.73
1.73
0
0
0.27
0.07
1.05
0
0
South&Central - CR7927670
23.22
19.51
19.62
11.94
22.3
2.37
0.78
0
0
0
0.25
0
0
South&Central - A926613
23.08
19.92
20.01
8.89
21.14
3.89
0.53
0
1.03
0
1.51
0
0
South&Central - A078147
22.9
19.51
21.65
10.52
21.51
2.94
0
0
0.43
0.53
0
0
0
South&Central - T370343
22.82
18.87
20.3
11.09
22.37
3.14
0
0.28
0
0
0.25
0.2
0.69
South&Central - M457882
22.81
19.52
20.9
9.61
21.89
2.27
0
0.46
0.6
0.9
0.72
0.12
0.2
South&Central - A378893
22.55
20.37
22.14
8.79
22.15
3.3
0.08
0.25
0.14
0.06
0.14
0
0
South&Central - A735427
22.39
19.09
20.37
11.3
22.76
2.82
0
0
0.81
0.46
0
0
0
South&Central - CU6984914
22.33
21.47
20.47
8.54
21.37
3.51
1.7
0
0
0.63
0
0
0
South&Central - HX2045713
22.19
19.89
20.33
11.85
19.72
4.69
0
0.66
0
0
0.67
0
0
South&Central - AZ3157468
22.13
20.86
19.97
11.72
21.72
2.32
0
0.41
0.4
0.22
0
0.2
0
South&Central - LW5492240
22.01
21.24
20.24
10.68
23.02
1.68
0
0
0.8
0.1
0.25
0
0
South&Central - YW6624312
21.96
19.63
21.21
12.24
21.84
2.2
0
0
0.3
0.15
0.48
0
0
South&Central - HC6365673
21.84
20.55
19.69
11.57
23.63
1.25
0.81
0
0
0.37
0.16
0
0.13
South&Central - LT7261802
21.65
18.55
18.86
11.83
24.8
3.27
0
0.07
0
0.68
0.28
0
0
South&Central - MT9456894
21.52
21.42
23.08
8.61
19.66
2.74
0.23
1.04
1.1
0.6
0
0
0
South&Central - RW2409609
21.4
19.31
21.83
13.53
18.74
3.36
0
0.59
0
0.93
0.31
0
0
South&Central - AV9652727
21.29
19.31
21.32
11.33
21.73
2.49
0
1.31
0
0
1.22
0
0
South&Central - WX1880513
21.14
21.49
20.27
11.46
21.74
3.23
0
0
0
0.67
0
0
0
South&Central - LE8225104
21.12
18.17
20.36
14.26
20.9
2.48
0
1.81
0.21
0
0.45
0
0.21
South&Central - A824134
21
19.54
21.4
11.26
22.2
3.09
0
0.78
0
0.7
0
0
0
South&Central - A893473
20.86
20.27
20.38
9.54
23.84
1.84
1.17
0
0.75
0.43
0.94
0
0
South&Central - H075534
20.46
20.97
21.01
9.55
23.41
2.68
0
0
0.56
0.27
1.08
0
0
South&Central - HM5697001
20.06
21.88
18.34
10.44
26.57
1.4
0
0
0.41
0
0.75
0
0.13
South&Central - TL2574441
20.02
19.6
24.44
11.52
20.51
1.1
0.79
0
1.1
0.91
0
0
0
South&Central - A199425
19.96
21.25
20
11.97
24.57
0.26
0
0
0.25
0.84
0.89
0
0
South&Central - LS6034483
19.76
19.08
20.55
12.42
23.18
3.1
0
0.13
0
1.19
0.6
0
0
South&Central - NN4427277
19.63
21.57
21.76
10.61
25.35
0
0
1.04
0
0
0
0
0
South&Central - M586408
19.59
20.9
21.83
8.76
24.55
2.02
0
1.63
0
0.71
0
0
0
South&Central - A682893
19.32
20.54
20.49
11.27
25.04
2.32
0
0
0.73
0.29
0
0
0
South&Central - A506798
19.27
20.58
18.45
13.03
25.29
1.07
0
0.1
1.25
0.12
0.85
0
0
South&Central - AD9961446
18.93
17.64
23.29
9.51
26.2
3.04
1.19
0
0.19
0
0
0
0
Soutb&Central - CP2500864
18.91
17.64
23.69
9.23
25.55
2.57
0.11
1.65
0.05
0.24
0.37
0
0
South&Central - GQ8095504
18.61
19.46
21.25
11.69
23.58
2.35
0.75
0
2.32
0
0
0
0
South&Central - AF1371357
17.57
21.7
20.6
10.49
22.34
4.81
0.71
0.22
0.09
0
1.47
0
0
Average
22.43
19.77
20.27
10.91
22.49
2.31
0.30
0.34
0.34
0.35
0.38
0.06
0.03
</tbody>
JohnnyP
06-27-2022, 05:30 PM
Macedonian from Struga and one grandparent from Kostur ( Northwest Greece / Aegean Macedonia ) , y-DNA E-V13
K13 Eurogenes
Kit number: JM3119934,
Population
North_Atlantic 22.36 Pct
Baltic 19.98 Pct
West_Med 21.45 Pct
West_Asian 10.25 Pct
East_Med 23.92 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.41 Pct
Oceanian 1.64 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
DodecadK12b
Population
Gedrosia 4.06 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 2.75 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 28.03 Pct
North_European 28.47 Pct
South_Asian 0.55 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.09 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 29.06 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
G25
Distance to: Struga-Kostur_scaled
0.01024032 Albanian
0.01216312 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.01488593 Greek_Macedonia
0.01525160 Macedonian
0.01719199 Rumelia_East
0.01838536 Greek_Thessaly
0.01892919 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.01968289 Greek_Arcadia
0.01971797 Greek_Messenia
0.01987392 Greek_Achaea
0.02101448 Greek_Elis
0.02142505 Greek_Argolis
0.02149107 Greek_Corinthia
0.02301986 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02421711 Gagauz
0.02531397 Bulgarian
0.02582040 Greek_East_Taygetos
0.02597013 Swiss_Italian
0.02660212 Italian_Piedmont
0.02735292 Greek_Laconia
0.02760164 Italian_Tuscany
0.03055652 Greek_North_Tsakonia
0.03089609 Italian_Marche
0.03093357 Italian_Veneto
0.03236414 Italian_Umbria
Target: Struga-Kostur_scaled
Distance: 0.6363% / 0.00636254 | R3P
71.4 Greek_Arcadia
18.6 Moldovan_o
10.0 Sardinian
JohnnyP
07-01-2022, 02:23 PM
Macedonian1 / Skopje - Pelagonia
K13 Eurogenes
Kit number: NT9869266,
Population
North_Atlantic 25.74 Pct
Baltic 19.17 Pct
West_Med 18.22 Pct
West_Asian 9.22 Pct
East_Med 23.84 Pct
Red_Sea 1.97 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.84 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
DodecadK12b
Kit number: NT9869266,
Population
Gedrosia 6.59 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.17 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.43 Pct
Atlantic_Med 30.35 Pct
North_European 28.8 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.95 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 24.71 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 7.91
2 Romanians (Behar) 10.06
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 10.19
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.64
5 N_Italian (Dodecad) 11.52
6 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.33
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.9
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.42
9 Greek (Dodecad) 14.39
10 North_Italian (HGDP) 14.58
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.34
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.38
13 Hungarians (Behar) 20.47
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 20.8
15 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.8
16 Baleares (1000Genomes) 21.31
17 French (HGDP) 21.46
18 French (Dodecad) 21.47
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 21.7
20 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 22.44
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 45.6% German (Dodecad) @ 1.32
2 63.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 36.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.57
3 54.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 45.6% German (Dodecad) @ 1.87
4 56.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 43.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.95
5 87% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 1.99
6 86.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.03
7 84.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 15.9% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.13
8 86.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.2% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.13
9 63.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 36.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.13
10 86% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 14% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.17
11 83% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 17% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.2
12 84.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 15.5% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.22
13 53.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 46.2% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.28
14 82.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 17.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.29
15 84% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.3
16 55.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 44.4% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.32
17 84.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 15.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.32
18 72.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 27.1% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.35
19 52.9% German (Dodecad) + 47.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.36
20 58.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 41.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.37
G25
Distance to: Skopje-Pelagonia_scaled
0.01170675 Macedonian
0.01840123 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.01865833 Albanian
0.01980419 Bulgarian
0.02071413 Greek_Macedonia
0.02155030 Italian_Northeast
0.02164939 Gagauz
0.02170770 Rumelia_East
0.02170797 Swiss_Italian
0.02242394 Greek_Thessaly
0.02263840 Italian_Veneto
0.02313628 Italian_Piedmont
0.02468255 Romanian
0.02591914 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.02739319 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02823176 Greek_Messenia
0.02856846 Greek_Achaea
0.02915301 Italian_Bergamo
0.02919389 Italian_Tuscany
0.02969217 Greek_Arcadia
0.03015058 Greek_Elis
0.03054877 Greek_Argolis
0.03093701 Italian_Liguria
0.03104408 Greek_Corinthia
0.03169336 Greek_Peloponnese
Target: Skopje-Pelagonia_scaled
Distance: 0.6615% / 0.00661457 | ADC: 1x RC
66.6 Macedonian
13.0 Italian_Veneto
11.2 Italian_Piedmont
9.2 Swiss_Italian
Target: Skopje-Pelagonia_scaled
Distance: 0.4773% / 0.00477272 | R3P
47.6 Italian_Northeast
29.8 Greek_Macedonia
22.6 Rumelia_East
-----------------------------
Macedonian2
K13 Eurogenes
Kit number: XF2772307,
Population
North_Atlantic 21.33 Pct
Baltic 21.64 Pct
West_Med 22.79 Pct
West_Asian 9.55 Pct
East_Med 21.47 Pct
Red_Sea 0.72 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.34 Pct
Amerindian 0.37 Pct
Oceanian 0.79 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
DodecadK12b
Kit number: XF2772307,
Population
Gedrosia 5.2 Pct
Siberian 1.43 Pct
Northwest_African 0.41 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 31.88 Pct
North_European 29.39 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 6.71 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 24.98
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.1% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 22.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.17
2 63.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 36.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.48
3 77.8% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 22.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 1.52
4 86.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.58
5 86.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.5% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 1.61
6 77% Tuscan (HGDP) + 23% Russian (HGDP) @ 1.61
7 71.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.62
8 61.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 38.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.67
9 67% Greek (Dodecad) + 33% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.75
10 65.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 34.5% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.76
11 64.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 35.6% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.77
12 64.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 35.5% English (Dodecad) @ 1.8
13 59.7% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 40.3% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.84
14 76.3% Tuscan (HGDP) + 23.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.86
15 80% Tuscan (HGDP) + 20% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.86
16 80.5% Tuscan (HGDP) + 19.5% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 1.86
17 64% Greek (Dodecad) + 36% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.92
18 66.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 33.1% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.93
19 81.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 18.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.95
20 66.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 33.3% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.02
G25
Distance to: Mojseski_scaled
0.01492066 Macedonian
0.02205178 Italian_Northeast
0.02368877 Romanian
0.02377059 Albanian
0.02463215 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02468644 Italian_Veneto
0.02752531 Greek_Macedonia
0.02777894 Swiss_Italian
0.02809961 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02862549 Rumelia_East
0.02895300 Italian_Piedmont
0.03030350 Greek_Thessaly
0.03089572 Italian_Bergamo
0.03209410 Montenegrin
0.03369435 Serbian
0.03379505 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.03530363 Greek_Achaea
0.03534447 Greek_Messenia
0.03600459 Greek_Arcadia
0.03610897 Italian_Lombardy
0.03615166 Italian_Liguria
0.03622908 Italian_Tuscany
0.03660160 Greek_Argolis
0.03700034 Greek_Elis
0.03735038 French_Provence
Target: Mojseski_scaled
Distance: 0.9294% / 0.00929430 | R3P
84.0 Macedonian
10.8 Sardinian
5.2 Chuvash
Without Macedonian ref.
Target: Mojseski_scaled
Distance: 1.1691% / 0.01169114 | ADC: 1x RC
42.2 Albanian
32.0 Italian_Northeast
25.8 Romanian
-----------------------------
Macedonian3 - Strumica
K13 Eurogenes
Kit number: QU3322676,
Population
North_Atlantic 23.01 Pct
Baltic 22.02 Pct
West_Med 19.87 Pct
West_Asian 9.62 Pct
East_Med 21.07 Pct
Red_Sea 1.86 Pct
South_Asian 0.42 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.54 Pct
Amerindian 0.36 Pct
Oceanian 0.86 Pct
Northeast_African 0.12 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.26 Pct
DodecadK12b
Kit number: QU3322676,
Population
Gedrosia 3.65 Pct
Siberian 0.85 Pct
Northwest_African 1.72 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 27.45 Pct
North_European 31.85 Pct
South_Asian 0.23 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.12 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 27.13 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 30% Russian_B (Behar) @ 1.26
2 84.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 15.4% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 1.33
3 66.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 33.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.41
4 84.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 15.4% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 1.49
5 83.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.3% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 1.51
6 53.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 46.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.54
7 83.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.3% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 1.58
8 83.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.7% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 1.61
9 53.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 46.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.64
10 70.1% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 29.9% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.64
11 85.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.6% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 1.64
12 84.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 15.1% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 1.69
13 83.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 16.8% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 1.72
14 56.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 43.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.74
15 86.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13.8% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 1
G25
Distance to: Strumica_scaled
0.01188948 Macedonian
0.01729545 Bulgarian
0.02168363 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02177098 Albanian
0.02190210 Gagauz
0.02351022 Greek_Macedonia
0.02559589 Italian_Northeast
0.02583400 Rumelia_East
0.02924471 Greek_Thessaly
0.02954674 Italian_Veneto
0.03017881 Montenegrin
0.03076215 Swiss_Italian
0.03078838 Serbian
0.03096053 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.03235642 Italian_Piedmont
0.03254366 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03291087 Greek_Messenia
0.03315039 Greek_Achaea
0.03327057 Greek_Arcadia
0.03472201 Greek_Elis
0.03477215 Greek_Argolis
0.03545466 Italian_Bergamo
0.03562720 Greek_Corinthia
0.03611187 Greek_Peloponnese
0.03642585 Italian_Liguria
Target: Strumica_scaled
Distance: 0.5141% / 0.00514074 | R4P
43.8 Albanian
25.8 Greek_Macedonia
18.8 Russian_Belgorod
11.6 Sardinian
JohnnyP
07-07-2022, 09:55 PM
My third friend from Kumanovo-Northeast , y-DNA R1b > R-247 https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-S47/ , It seems rare by Tree ,
Cladefinder.yseq
https://i.imgur.com/8rRTayc.png
Eurogenes K13
GA6997723
North_Atlantic 23.03
Baltic 22.28
West_Med 19.18
West_Asian 11.88
East_Med 20.87
Red_Sea 1.57
South_Asian 0.00
East_Asian 0.00
Siberian 0.00
Amerindian 0.08
Oceanian 1.10
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00
Distance to: Pavel
1.34014925 Macedonian_North
2.39349117 Albanian_Montenegro
3.26406189 Macedonian_Central
3.48103433 Greek_Florina
3.51098277 Bulgarian_Southwestern
3.65815527 Aromanian
3.69042003 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
3.74734573 Macedonian_South
Target: Pavel
Distance: 131.2928% / 1.31292835 | ADC: 0.5x RC
94.8 Macedonian_North
5.2 Greek_Thrace
Target: Pavel
Distance: 102.2089% / 1.02208927 | R3P
50.0 Albanian_Montenegro
31.8 Greek_Thrace
18.2 Bosniak_Sandzak_West
Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 3.21 Pct
Basque 4.38 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 10.04 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 10.97 Pct
East_Med 5.38 Pct
Eastern_Euro 4.93 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.96 Pct
French 2.51 Pct
Iberian 4.69 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 29.58 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.33 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 3.33 Pct
North_Caucasian 2.23 Pct
North_Sea 4.03 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.19 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 4.12 Pct
West_Med 1.13 Pct
G25
Balkan t-sne
Target: Pavel_scaled
Distance: 2.0140% / 0.02013987
75.0 ILLYRIC
25.0 SLAVIC
Target: Pavel_scaled
Distance: 0.6065% / 0.00606522 | R3P
45.8 Greek_Macedonia
40.2 Albanian
14.0 Lithuanian_VZ
MyTrueAncestry
https://i.imgur.com/HRDHx2A.png
https://i.imgur.com/J1QhIDE.png
orhanaa
07-08-2022, 07:56 AM
turkish result from gorobinci city of northern macedonia, result of y-dna; C-L1373
Gedrosian: 6.85
Siberian: 4.52
Northwest_African: 0.96
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 22.44
North_European: 30.03
South_Asian: 2.13
East_African: 0.17
Southwest_Asian: 9.01
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 23.89
Sub_Saharan: -
JohnnyP
07-08-2022, 08:18 AM
turkish result from gorobinci city of northern macedonia, result of y-dna; C-L1373
Gedrosian: 6.85
Siberian: 4.52
Northwest_African: 0.96
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 22.44
North_European: 30.03
South_Asian: 2.13
East_African: 0.17
Southwest_Asian: 9.01
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 23.89
Sub_Saharan: -
Can you post his Eurogenes K13 eesults , just to compare difference between ethnic Macedonians and Turks from Macedonia.
orhanaa
07-10-2022, 10:51 AM
Can you post his Eurogenes K13 eesults , just to compare difference between ethnic Macedonians and Turks from Macedonia.
North_Atlantic: 24.39
Baltic: 17.27
West_Med: 13.57
West_Asian: 12.68
East_Med: 19.64
Red_Sea: 4.25
South_Asian: 1.54
East_Asian: -
Siberian: 3.82
Amerindian: 1.3
Oceanian: 1.05
Northeast_African: 0.49
Sub-Saharan: -
orhanaa
07-10-2022, 11:01 AM
Ohrid Turk result, they spoke Macedonian and Turkish in daily life, y dna result I-M423
- doedcad k12b -
Gedrosian: 5.78
Siberian: 1.03
Northwest_African: 1.63
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 28.01
North_European: 26.27
South_Asian: 0.46
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 8.06
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 28.22
Sub_Saharan: -
- eurogenes k13 -
North_Atlantic: 22.32
Baltic: 20.87
West_Med: 17.27
West_Asian: 8.48
East_Med: 27.16
Red_Sea: 2.74
South_Asian: 0.72
East_Asian: 0.44
Siberian: -
Amerindian: -
Oceanian: -
Northeast_African: -
Sub-Saharan: -
JohnnyP
07-10-2022, 06:57 PM
Ohrid Turk result, they spoke Macedonian and Turkish in daily life, y dna result I-M423
- doedcad k12b -
Gedrosian: 5.78
Siberian: 1.03
Northwest_African: 1.63
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 28.01
North_European: 26.27
South_Asian: 0.46
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 8.06
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 28.22
Sub_Saharan: -
- eurogenes k13 -
North_Atlantic: 22.32
Baltic: 20.87
West_Med: 17.27
West_Asian: 8.48
East_Med: 27.16
Red_Sea: 2.74
South_Asian: 0.72
East_Asian: 0.44
Siberian: -
Amerindian: -
Oceanian: -
Northeast_African: -
Sub-Saharan: -
This turk from Ohrid looks Macedonian by results , really low Siberian and East ASian.
orhanaa
07-11-2022, 09:34 AM
Macedonian tikveš rosoman Turkish result, the mother tongue of the tikveš Turks was Bulgarian but everyone called them Turks, y-dna: E1b1b1a1b7
- doedcad k12b -
Gedrosian: 4.56
Siberian: -
Northwest_African: 0.08
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 25.33
North_European: 31.73
South_Asian: -
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 7.87
East_Asian: 2.33
Caucasian: 28.11
Sub_Saharan: -
- eurogenes k13 -
North_Atlantic: 20.03
Baltic: 23.7
West_Med: 17.99
West_Asian: 12.7
East_Med: 21.92
Red_Sea: 1.03
South_Asian: -
East_Asian: 1.66
Siberian: 0.22
Amerindian: 0.75
Oceanian: -
Northeast_African: -
Sub-Saharan: -
orhanaa
07-11-2022, 09:35 AM
Macedonian tikveš rosoman Turkish result, the mother tongue of the tikveš Turks was Bulgarian but everyone called them Turks, y-dna: E1b1b1a1b7
- doedcad k12b -
Gedrosian: 4.56
Siberian: -
Northwest_African: 0.08
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 25.33
North_European: 31.73
South_Asian: -
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 7.87
East_Asian: 2.33
Caucasian: 28.11
Sub_Saharan: -
- eurogenes k13 -
North_Atlantic: 20.03
Baltic: 23.7
West_Med: 17.99
West_Asian: 12.7
East_Med: 21.92
Red_Sea: 1.03
South_Asian: -
East_Asian: 1.66
Siberian: 0.22
Amerindian: 0.75
Oceanian: -
Northeast_African: -
Sub-Saharan: -
CommonSense
07-11-2022, 06:05 PM
Macedonian from eastern North Macedonia and Aegean Macedonia
source: https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/vw5672/macedonian_from_north_macedonia_and_greece_i_was/
https://i.imgur.com/r3QkZok.png
https://i.imgur.com/wut8NXk.png
https://i.imgur.com/ObWAd3v.png
JohnnyP
07-11-2022, 06:15 PM
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Thank you Bratski! Is there a Kit Number ?
CommonSense
07-11-2022, 06:54 PM
Thank you Bratski! Is there a Kit Number ?
Unfortunately, he cut it from the screenshots, but if you have a reddit account you can try messaging the guy.
vasiliki23
07-11-2022, 10:07 PM
Little update for Central and South Macedonians , I will start with posting now averages per city not region :D I think I have enough kits from each city.
Sample TG1266172 is one of my matches in Gedmatch! :)
Largest segment = 11.4 cM
Total cM = 34.9
Generations = 4.3
RogueState
07-11-2022, 10:36 PM
Given the fact he is half Greek, his results seems more Northern shifted than average Macedonian
JohnnyP
07-12-2022, 11:03 AM
Given the fact he is half Greek, his results seems more Northern shifted than average Macedonian
He is not half Greek , he is full Macedonian , but one half is from Aegean Macedonia, and eastern Macedonians and Aegean Macedonians have high North Atlantic , his results are normal for Central and Eastern Macedonians , most of the Macedonians plot more western towards Tuscans than south towards Greeks, same as Ghegs and many Albanians.
JohnnyP
07-12-2022, 11:06 AM
Sample TG1266172 is one of my matches in Gedmatch! :)
Largest segment = 11.4 cM
Total cM = 34.9
Generations = 4.3
This guy is from Shtip - Central/Eastern Macedonia.
vasiliki23
07-12-2022, 06:13 PM
This guy is from Shtip - Central/Eastern Macedonia.
Nice! If you know him personally, you can give him my Kit# EL4281941
114701 The red x's on the map is where my family is from in relation to Shtip, I was curious so thought I'd share.
Paternal: grandfather from the x west of Grevena, grandma west of Lamia in central Greece.
Maternal: both grandparents from the x that is west of Kalambaka (that side is Vlach).
JohnnyP
07-12-2022, 06:40 PM
Nice! If you know him personally, you can give him my Kit# EL4281941
114701 The red x's on the map is where my family is from in relation to Shtip, I was curious so thought I'd share.
Paternal: grandfather from the x west of Grevena, grandma west of Lamia in central Greece.
Maternal: both grandparents from the x that is west of Kalambaka (that side is Vlach).
You have similar results like this guy from Shtip also your results are kinda Macedonian , half of the Macedonian gedmatch kit's have like your results , just with 1-3% more Baltic , but in general the same pattern , higher North Atlantic than Baltic and higher East med than West med or same percentage, here's some of Macedonians similar to your results ;
<tbody>
Region&Kit
North Atlantic
Baltic
West Med
West Asian
East Med
Red Sea
South Asian
East Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
Northeast African
Sub-Saharan
South&Central - TB5953993
26.15
19.03
19.35
11.39
21.87
0.75
0
0.19
0
1.04
0.22
0
0
South&Central - H686285
25.76
19.67
21.07
5.86
22.31
4.18
0
0.44
0.39
0
0.32
0
0
South&Central - NT9869266
25.74
19.17
18.22
9.22
23.84
1.97
0
1.84
0
0
0
0
0
South&Central - QZ3309456
25.5
20.04
18.87
10.65
19.83
4.11
0
0.59
0.1
0.3
0
0
0
South&Central - PG2135618
25.43
18.98
15.67
13.23
22.64
2.18
0.4
0
0.24
0.25
0.21
0.73
0
South&Central - ET3431273
25.16
20.4
16.41
8.82
26.46
1.98
0
0
0
0.54
0.21
0
0
South&Central - SB5534115
24.95
18.23
16.98
11.13
23.42
2.32
0.24
0.65
0.42
1.29
0
0.3
0.05
South&Central - TG1266172
24.87
18.4
18.76
13.55
20.15
2.56
0
1.07
0.17
0
0.48
0
0
South&Central - BJ5418586
24.57
20.39
23.71
11.77
15.85
2.44
1.27
0
0
0
0
0
0
South&Central - A442462
24.53
19.91
18.39
11.87
23.57
0.42
0
0.45
0
0.26
0.3
0.29
0
South&Central - T847009
24.32
19.78
19.27
11.46
21.06
2.55
0.31
0
0
0
1.25
0
0
South&Central - A673694
24.31
20.31
21.45
12.17
19.52
0.53
0
0.46
0.85
0
0
0.36
0
South&Central - UA6443626
24.31
20.43
20.04
11.38
22.13
0.27
0
0
0.84
0
0.11
0.49
0
South&Central - CU1029191
24.27
18.19
21.47
12.65
20.38
2.18
0
0
0.17
0.6
0
0
0.09
South&Central - QL3384505
23.99
18.29
17.65
13.16
22.8
1.04
2.34
0
0
0
0
0.72
0
South&Central - AX1603802
23.98
19.05
17.81
11.9
22.86
2.55
1.84
0
0
0
0
0
0
South&Central - MG6259787
23.82
19.74
21.45
6.76
22.94
3.34
0
1
0
0.63
0.31
0
0
South&Central - M743616
23.77
19.74
19.32
10.65
22.83
0.72
0.99
0.87
0
0.83
0
0.27
0
South&Central - A083622
23.76
19.21
19.1
11.09
23.3
0.7
0.96
0
1.19
0
0.7
0
0
South&Central - A752924
23.73
19.67
19.77
9.43
22.04
4.54
0
0
0.29
0
0.54
0
0
South&Central - TV8541178
23.63
17.64
19.48
11.72
23.83
2.14
0
0
0
0.52
1.04
0
0
South&Central - FS2160700
23.56
21.69
18.19
8.87
22.83
2.85
0
0
0
0.79
1.09
0
0.13
South&Central - HW4801904
23.4
17.66
22.46
10.96
21.79
0.61
0
0
1.28
1.39
0.45
0
0
South&Central - M517367
23.34
19.96
20.68
12.16
20.73
1.73
0
0
0.27
0.07
1.05
0
0
South&Central - CR7927670
23.22
19.51
19.62
11.94
22.3
2.37
0.78
0
0
0
0.25
0
0
South&Central - A926613
23.08
19.92
20.01
8.89
21.14
3.89
0.53
0
1.03
0
1.51
0
0
South&Central - A078147
22.9
19.51
21.65
10.52
21.51
2.94
0
0
0.43
0.53
0
0
0
South&Central - T370343
22.82
18.87
20.3
11.09
22.37
3.14
0
0.28
0
0
0.25
0.2
0.69
South&Central - M457882
22.81
19.52
20.9
9.61
21.89
2.27
0
0.46
0.6
0.9
0.72
0.12
0.2
</tbody>
Btw I don't know this guy personally , but we know that he is from Shtip,
I personally think these regions have similar / same results , with little difference per reference ( 2-4% )
https://i.imgur.com/3cq2rj9.png
JohnnyP
08-31-2022, 07:52 PM
Kit number: XZ2325687, Macedonian from Tetovo , north part,
Population
North_Atlantic 23.9 Pct
Baltic 21.63 Pct
West_Med 17.58 Pct
West_Asian 10.62 Pct
East_Med 23.26 Pct
Red_Sea 1.01 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.7 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.5 Pct
Northeast_African 0.79 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
Target: Branko
Distance: 182.8475% / 1.82847463 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.4 Greek_Thrace
18.8 German_Saxony-Anhalt_South
13.8 Greek_Florina
12.0 Greek_Lefkada
8.0 Jew_Ashkenazi
JohnnyP
09-01-2022, 01:03 PM
Kit number: CB2713118, Macedonian from Pelagonia
Population
North_Atlantic 24.84 Pct
Baltic 18.1 Pct
West_Med 20.45 Pct
West_Asian 9.32 Pct
East_Med 24.53 Pct
Red_Sea 0.99 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.01 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.76 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Target: Marina
Distance: 189.9469% / 1.89946934 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.0 Greek_Florina
29.8 Greek_Epirus
23.4 Swiss_Italian
10.8 Greek_Lefkada
Target: Marina
Distance: 258.6968% / 2.58696758 | ADC: 0.5x RC
50.2 Albanian_South_Albania
36.2 Albanian_Montenegro
13.6 Swiss_Italian
JohnnyP
09-02-2022, 12:50 PM
Kit number: ZT5046579, Macedonian from Kumanovo-Sveti Nikole , Northeast part ,
Eurogenes K13
Population
North_Atlantic 21.68 Pct
Baltic 19.11 Pct
West_Med 23.71 Pct
West_Asian 12.68 Pct
East_Med 18.83 Pct
Red_Sea 2.89 Pct
South_Asian 0.47 Pct
East_Asian 0.37 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.26 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
Dodecad K12b
Population
Gedrosia 5.72 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.74 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 28.99 Pct
North_European 29.04 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 6.83 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 25.64 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.73
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.08
3 Romanians (Behar) 9.2
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.53
5 N_Italian (Dodecad) 12.96
6 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.33
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.71
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.79
9 Greek (Dodecad) 14.07
10 North_Italian (HGDP) 15.96
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.12
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.34
13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.15
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 20.2
15 Hungarians (Behar) 20.41
16 Baleares (1000Genomes) 22.51
17 French (Dodecad) 22.76
18 French (HGDP) 22.8
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 22.83
20 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 23.47
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 46% German (Dodecad) @ 1.98
2 53.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 46.1% German (Dodecad) @ 2.23
3 63% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 37% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.35
4 51.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 48.3% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.46
5 63.1% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 36.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.56
6 74.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 25.9% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 2.73
7 51.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 48.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.92
8 74.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.2% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.93
9 63% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 37% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.95
10 55.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 44.7% German (Dodecad) @ 2.96
11 63.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 36.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.97
12 74.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 25.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3
13 82.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 17.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.03
14 82.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 17.1% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.06
15 82.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 17.1% Russian (Dodecad) @ 3.06
16 64.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 35.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.09
17 80.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 19.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.13
18 52% German (Dodecad) + 48% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.14
19 81.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 18.2% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.15
20 73.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.16
JohnnyP
09-02-2022, 02:48 PM
Kit number: DT7436217, Macedonian from Makedonska Kamenitsa and Probishtip - East region
Eurogenes K13
Population
North_Atlantic 25.99 Pct
Baltic 16.85 Pct
West_Med 15.82 Pct
West_Asian 14.14 Pct
East_Med 24.72 Pct
Red_Sea 1.6 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.53 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.35 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Target: Aneta
Distance: 176.4335% / 1.76433458 | R5P
33.6 Greek_Kastellorizo
31.2 Greek_Epirus
23.2 German_Hamburg
8.8 German_Mecklenburg_West
3.2 Turkish_East-Black_Sea
DodecadK12b
Population
Gedrosia 7.09 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.43 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.37 Pct
Atlantic_Med 27.56 Pct
North_European 26.46 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.73 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 30.36 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 7.35
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.26
3 Greek (Dodecad) 9.46
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.87
5 Romanians (Behar) 10.33
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 11.42
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.2
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.59
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.79
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.56
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.71
12 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 16.28
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.62
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 17.48
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.16
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 24
17 Hungarians (Behar) 24.3
18 Baleares (1000Genomes) 25.58
19 Turkish (Dodecad) 26.11
20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 26.45
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.6% German (Dodecad) + 49.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.27
2 56.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 43.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.04
3 75.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 24.3% German (Dodecad) @ 3.11
4 57.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 42.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.13
5 81.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 18.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.16
6 61.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 38.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.22
7 55.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 44.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.28
8 81.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 18.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.29
9 76.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 23.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.38
10 60.9% Romanians (Behar) + 39.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.49
11 57.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 42.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.53
12 78.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.54
13 80% Greek (Dodecad) + 20% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 3.58
14 71.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 28.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.69
15 52.8% Romanians (Behar) + 47.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.69
16 80.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 19.5% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 3.73
17 60.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 39.7% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.74
18 73.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 26.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.76
19 72.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.5% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.8
20 59.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 40.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.81
JohnnyP
09-04-2022, 03:57 PM
Kit number: NA5804326, Macedonian , Tetovo , northwest part
Eurogenes K13
Population
North_Atlantic 24.48 Pct
Baltic 19.53 Pct
West_Med 21.55 Pct
West_Asian 9.1 Pct
East_Med 21.59 Pct
Red_Sea 1.81 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.55 Pct
Oceanian 1.35 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Target: Matoski
Distance: 99.3118% / 0.99311772
61.2 Torbesh
13.2 Austrian_Carinthia
12.4 Italian_North_Alpine
8.0 Albanian
2.0 Jew_Ashkenazi
1.6 Sardinian
0.8 Latvian
0.8 Papuan
DodecadK12b
Population
Gedrosia 5.3 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.49 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 30.87 Pct
North_European 29.11 Pct
South_Asian 0.86 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.45 Pct
East_Asian 0.28 Pct
Caucasus 24.64 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.09
2 Romanians (Behar) 9.7
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 10.03
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.23
5 N_Italian (Dodecad) 11.13
6 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.19
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.77
8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.48
9 North_Italian (HGDP) 14.14
10 Greek (Dodecad) 14.59
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.64
12 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.69
13 Hungarians (Behar) 20.08
14 Baleares (1000Genomes) 20.84
15 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21
16 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 21.02
17 French (HGDP) 21.05
18 French (Dodecad) 21.07
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 21.22
20 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 22.06
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 46.4% German (Dodecad) @ 1.44
2 53.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 46.3% German (Dodecad) @ 1.46
3 81.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 18.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.64
4 86.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.5% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 1.68
5 86.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.8% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.72
6 86.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.74
7 85.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 14.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.76
8 82.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 17.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.8
9 71.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.3% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.82
10 63.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 36.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.88
11 83.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.4% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.89
12 83.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.89
13 63.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 36.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.91
14 55% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 45% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.93
15 60% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 40% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.95
16 81.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 18.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.04
17 52% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 48% German (Dodecad) @ 2.09
18 63.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 36.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.1
19 61.3% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 38.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.1
20 84% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.11
JohnnyP
09-05-2022, 01:15 PM
Kit number: AW1283137, Macedonian
Eurogenes K13
Population
North_Atlantic 25.76 Pct
Baltic 20.21 Pct
West_Med 19.28 Pct
West_Asian 7.89 Pct
East_Med 20.9 Pct
Red_Sea 1.59 Pct
South_Asian 3.06 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.67 Pct
Amerindian 0.38 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.27 Pct
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73% Tuscan + 27% Southwest_Russian @ 3.26
2 70% Greek_Thessaly + 30% East_German @ 3.32
3 73.3% Tuscan + 26.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.37
4 62.9% West_Sicilian + 37.1% South_Polish @ 3.38
5 67.6% Greek_Thessaly + 32.4% Austrian @ 3.41
6 76.2% Tuscan + 23.8% Erzya @ 3.43
7 77.8% Greek_Thessaly + 22.2% Swedish @ 3.44
8 55.6% East_German + 44.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.48
9 78.2% Greek_Thessaly + 21.8% North_Swedish @ 3.48
10 76.9% Greek_Thessaly + 23.1% Danish @ 3.49
11 70.8% West_Sicilian + 29.2% Estonian @ 3.51
12 52.3% West_Sicilian + 47.7% Hungarian @ 3.52
13 75.4% Tuscan + 24.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.53
14 66.9% Romanian + 33.1% Tuscan @ 3.56
15 78.3% Greek_Thessaly + 21.7% Norwegian @ 3.58
16 59% Tuscan + 41% Moldavian @ 3.58
17 74.5% Tuscan + 25.5% Estonian_Polish @ 3.59
18 76% Greek_Thessaly + 24% Southeast_English @ 3.61
19 76.4% Bulgarian + 23.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.61
20 70.6% Tuscan + 29.4% Ukrainian @ 3.62
Varda
09-05-2022, 02:01 PM
Kit number: AW1283137, Macedonian
Eurogenes K13
Population
North_Atlantic 25.76 Pct
Baltic 20.21 Pct
West_Med 19.28 Pct
West_Asian 7.89 Pct
East_Med 20.9 Pct
Red_Sea 1.59 Pct
South_Asian 3.06 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.67 Pct
Amerindian 0.38 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.27 Pct
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73% Tuscan + 27% Southwest_Russian @ 3.26
2 70% Greek_Thessaly + 30% East_German @ 3.32
3 73.3% Tuscan + 26.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.37
4 62.9% West_Sicilian + 37.1% South_Polish @ 3.38
5 67.6% Greek_Thessaly + 32.4% Austrian @ 3.41
6 76.2% Tuscan + 23.8% Erzya @ 3.43
7 77.8% Greek_Thessaly + 22.2% Swedish @ 3.44
8 55.6% East_German + 44.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.48
9 78.2% Greek_Thessaly + 21.8% North_Swedish @ 3.48
10 76.9% Greek_Thessaly + 23.1% Danish @ 3.49
11 70.8% West_Sicilian + 29.2% Estonian @ 3.51
12 52.3% West_Sicilian + 47.7% Hungarian @ 3.52
13 75.4% Tuscan + 24.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.53
14 66.9% Romanian + 33.1% Tuscan @ 3.56
15 78.3% Greek_Thessaly + 21.7% Norwegian @ 3.58
16 59% Tuscan + 41% Moldavian @ 3.58
17 74.5% Tuscan + 25.5% Estonian_Polish @ 3.59
18 76% Greek_Thessaly + 24% Southeast_English @ 3.61
19 76.4% Bulgarian + 23.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.61
20 70.6% Tuscan + 29.4% Ukrainian @ 3.62
Could you post the closest populations to Macedonians by regions (K13), but only to national averages?
JohnnyP
09-05-2022, 02:38 PM
Could you post the closest populations to Macedonians by regions (K13), but only to national averages?
There are 50+ results after last average , I'll need to do it updated average again , I wanted to do a City-average , because at least from every city I have +5 Kits, maybe I'll do both , city average and regional average.
Varda
09-05-2022, 02:53 PM
There are 50+ results after last average , I'll need to do it updated average again , I wanted to do a City-average , because at least from every city I have +5 Kits, maybe I'll do both , city average and regional average.
I would like to see new Macedonian averages. :thumb001:
JohnnyP
09-06-2022, 04:06 PM
City - averages , I will start with Central part , Veles and Kavadarci , and Southwest city - Struga
<tbody>
VELES
North Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
Northeast African
Sub-Saharan
HM5697001
20.06
21.88
18.34
10.44
26.57
1.4
0
0
0.41
0
0.75
0
0.13
HW4801904
23.4
17.66
22.46
10.96
21.79
0.61
0
0
1.28
1.39
0.45
0
0
TB5953993 - R1b 1> R-M269
26.15
19.03
19.35
11.39
21.87
0.75
0
0.19
0
1.04
0.22
0
0
CU1029191 - R1b > R1b1a2a1a2a1b3
24.27
18.19
21.47
12.65
20.38
2.18
0
0
0.17
0.6
0
0
0.09
A530582 - R1b > R1b1a2a1a2a1b3
22.62
22.88
20.21
13.14
17.79
0
0
0
1.56
1.07
0.74
0
0
ZT5046579
21.68
19.11
23.71
12.68
18.83
2.89
0.47
0.37
0
0
0
0.26
0
A673694
24.31
20.31
21.45
12.17
19.52
0.53
0
0.46
0.85
0
0
0.36
0
PG2135618
25.43
18.98
15.67
13.23
22.64
2.18
0.4
0
0.24
0.25
0.21
0.73
0
Veles_Average
23.49
19.76
20.33
12.08
21.17
1.32
0.11
0.13
0.56
0.54
0.30
0.17
0.03
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Veles
3.54189215
Aromanian
4.47583512
Albanian
4.71219694
Torbesh
</tbody>
Target: Veles
Distance: 177.0907% / 1.77090710 | ADC: 0.5x RC
51.4 Albanian
31.4 Bosniak_Sandžak
11.8 Aromanian
5.4 Italian_Aosta_Valley
PCA
https://i.imgur.com/bMGY7kK.png
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<tbody>
KAVADARCI
North Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
Northeast African
Sub-Saharan
RW2409609
21.4
19.31
21.83
13.53
18.74
3.36
0
0.59
0
0.93
0.31
0
0
NN4427277
19.63
21.57
21.76
10.61
25.35
0
0
1.04
0
0
0
0
0
LT7261802
21.65
18.55
18.86
11.83
24.8
3.27
0
0.07
0
0.68
0.28
0
0
Kavadarci_Average
20.89
19.81
20.82
11.99
22.96
2.21
0.00
0.57
0.00
0.54
0.20
0.00
0.00
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Kavadarci
1.74189552
Aromanian
2.93030715
Albanian
3.23097509
Torbesh
</tbody>
Target: Kavadarci
Distance: 154.8052% / 1.54805168 | ADC: 1x RC
78.0 Aromanian
22.0 Torbesh
PCA
https://i.imgur.com/dOTYjVl.png
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<tbody>
STRUGA
North Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
Northeast African
Sub-Saharan
CP2500864 - J2 > J-M92
18.91
17.64
23.69
9.23
25.55
2.57
0.11
1.65
0.05
0.24
0.37
0
0
MT9456894 - J2 > J-M92
21.52
21.42
23.08
8.61
19.66
2.74
0.23
1.04
1.1
0.6
0
0
0
QQ2264530 - I2 > I-M423
19.59
20.9
21.83
8.76
24.55
2.02
0
1.63
0
0.71
0
0
0
KH1832499
21.29
19.31
21.32
11.33
21.73
2.49
0
1.31
0
0
1.22
0
0
JM3119934 - E > E-V13
22.36
19.98
21.45
10.25
23.92
0
0
0
0
0.41
1.64
0
0
Struga_average
20.73
19.85
22.27
9.64
23.08
1.96
0.07
1.13
0.23
0.39
0.65
0.00
0.00
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Struga
2.71354012
Torbesh
3.27862776
Albanian
3.36940648
Aromanian
</tbody>
Target: Struga
Distance: 183.9766% / 1.83976618 | ADC: 0.5x RC
80.8 Torbesh
10.8 Pomak_Bulgaria
8.4 Montenegrin
PCA
https://i.imgur.com/4qOZWQI.png
All together
https://i.imgur.com/5dH3CCj.png
JohnnyP
09-08-2022, 03:40 PM
Average from Southwest region Prespa from few places ,
https://i.imgur.com/7k1Ft7C.png
https://i.imgur.com/cI2xRAZ.png
https://i.imgur.com/Q5dUJPh.png
https://i.imgur.com/OMG8bLm.png
Rizza
09-18-2022, 01:50 PM
Do you have different Macedonian regions for G25 ? I wanna add them and compare them to some of these Ancient Balkan samples including in Macedonia .
Preferably one that has done regional breakdowns since many ethnicities seem to of done this . I would also like to see different regions for Montenegro, Bulgaria and Romania .
Someone should also do an average for these Ancient samples rather than individual comparison. Since individually, even people of the same ethnicity can get huge distances .
JohnnyP
09-21-2022, 07:14 PM
Samples from North Macedonia
<tbody>
Sample
Date
Analysis_Label
Locality
Country
Lat.
Long.
Coverage
Y-DNA
mtDNA
I3881
-4750
MKD_N
Pista Novo Selo
North Macedonia
41,36
22,88
5,07%
n/a (female)
n/a (<2x)
I7231
-1219
MKD_BA
Dimov Grob, V. Ulanci-Gradsko
North Macedonia
41,58
21,94
72,93%
R-CTS7556
T2b
I10171
-1200
MKD_BA_lc
Vodovratski Pat, V. Vodovrati-Gradsko
North Macedonia
41,58
21,87
0,55%
n/a (female)
..
I10168
-1100
MKD_BA_lc
Skopje, Skupi, East Necropolis
North Macedonia
42,01
21,39
0,58%
..
..
I7233
-850
MKD_Anc
Vodovratski Pat, V. Vodovrati-Gradsko
North Macedonia
41,58
21,87
74,59%
n/a (female)
H35
I10388
-708
MKD_Anc
Plaosnik-Ohrid
North Macedonia
41,11
20,79
67,44%
J-Y13128
J1c2
I8112
-664
MKD_Anc
Lisicin Dol, Marvinci, Valandovo
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
70,53%
R-CTS1450
H
I10383
-657
MKD_Anc
Lisicin Dol-Marvinci, Valandovo
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
67,48%
n/a (female)
U2e1a1
I10385
-641
MKD_Anc
Plaosnik-Ohrid
North Macedonia
41,11
20,79
69,29%
n/a (female)
H1e
I10379
-641
MKD_Anc
Bucinci-Skopje
North Macedonia
42,03
21,64
66,02%
n/a (female)
K1a+195
I10381
-636
MKD_Anc
Govrlevo-Skopje
North Macedonia
41,93
21,34
22,20%
C-V86
U5a1c
I10378
-600
MKD_Anc
Bucinci-Skopje
North Macedonia
42,03
21,64
1,59%
n/a (female)
T2b
I10380
-600
MKD_IA_lc
Govrlevo-Skopje
North Macedonia
41,93
21,34
0,59%
n/a (female)
K1a4a1
I10389
-600
MKD_Anc
Plaosnik-Ohrid
North Macedonia
41,11
20,79
15,50%
n/a (female)
K1a3a
I10387
-600
MKD_Anc
Plaosnik-Ohrid
North Macedonia
41,11
20,79
43,99%
n/a (female)
J1c+16261
I10384
-600
MKD_Anc
Plaosnik-Ohrid
North Macedonia
41,11
20,79
65,57%
J-Y13128
H8c
I10382
-600
MKD_Anc
Govrlevo-Skopje
North Macedonia
41,93
21,34
7,60%
n/a (female)
H1n+146
I10377
-600
MKD_Anc
Bucinci-Skopje
North Macedonia
42,03
21,64
4,87%
R-M269
H
I10390
-393
MKD_Anc
Marvinci-Valandovo (southwest necropolis)
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
67,94%
G-Z6494
J1c5d
I10392
-300
MKD_Anc_outlier1
Isar Marvinci, V. Marvinci-Valandovo, Southwest Necropolis
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
67,05%
J-BY94
U5b1b
I10166
-300
MKD_Anc
Isar Marvinci, V. Marvinci-Valandovo, Southwest Necropolis
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
1,56%
E-L618
..
I10391
-300
MKD_Anc
Marvinci-Valandovo (southwest necropolis)
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
66,29%
n/a (female)
J1c
I10167
-121
MKD_Anc_outlier2
Marvinci-Valandovo (southwest necropolis)
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
12,67%
R-M269
..
I2530
1035
MKD_Mdv
Tumba S. Opticari, Bitola
North Macedonia
41,03
21,33
58,80%
n/a (female)
H1
</tbody>
Macedonian average from 100 G25 sims ;
<tbody>
Target: Macedonian
Distance: 1.1104% / 0.01110387
73.0
Ancient-Macedonian
14.6
Balto-Slavic
9.8
Caucasian
1.8
Illyrian
0.8
Pakistan_Butkara
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: Macedonian
Distance: 1.3120% / 0.01312000 | ADC: 0.25x
60.0
Ancient-Macedonian
18.2
Illyrian
9.4
Slavic
7.0
Caucasian
5.4
Balto-Slavic
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: Macedonian
Distance: 1.1159% / 0.01115895 | R3P
74.0
Ancient-Macedonian
14.6
Balto-Slavic
11.4
Caucasian
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Macedonian
0.03334029
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14690
0.03568198
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10384
0.03703264
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14692
0.03821482
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10385
0.03945969
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16251
0.04008026
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5729
0.04114283
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10388
0.04252285
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5724
0.04265533
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I3313
0.04293207
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5723
0.04336471
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I8112
0.04436366
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10390
0.04539412
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16253
0.04755478
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10391
0.04782672
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5725
0.04831282
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10381
0.04895917
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14688
0.04933028
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10379
0.05034408
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10383
0.05049162
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5728
0.05075481
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10389
0.05087622
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16256
0.05381610
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5726
0.05551697
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16254
0.05757551
Illyrian:ALB_MBA:I8471
0.05849417
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10387
0.06872893
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I7233
0.08788259
Celtic-England
0.10562810
Slavic
0.11406755
Nordic
0.14399650
Caucasian
0.16317711
Balto-Slavic
0.27968825
Pakistan_Butkara
</tbody>
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10379,0.129758,0.149283,0.0218 73,-0.027132,0.027082,-0.012829,0.005875,0.001846,0.002659,0.034989,-0.001461,0.01169,-0.007284,-0.003716,-0.019137,0.008353,0.029206,-0.002154,0.005656,0.001876,-0.018093,0.002349,-0.002095,0.008435,-0.004311Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10381,0.134311,0.151314,0.0267 76,-0.031331,0.028928,-0.000837,-0.000235,-0.003231,0.006749,0.04319,0.000162,-3e-04,-0.015758,0.005092,-0.009365,-0.006364,0.00678,0.00152,0.006285,0.001751,-0.009358,0.001731,0.003821,-0.003133,0.012334
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10383,0.12862,0.149283,0.02526 7,-0.018734,0.030159,-0.009482,0.003525,-0.004154,0.002454,0.031709,-0.005359,0.013188,-0.020812,-0.017065,-0.012893,0.007823,0.024251,0.007728,0.007165,0.000 75,-0.00836,-0.00136,-0.001725,0.009158,-0.005269
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10384,0.125205,0.156392,0.0263 98,-0.010013,0.026774,-0.004183,0.002115,-0.003923,0.006954,0.025331,0.001299,0.006894,-0.014123,-0.005918,-0.012758,-0.00053,0.004824,0.002787,0.005028,-0.014257,-0.015223,-0.000371,-0.00986,0.003615,-0.006706
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10385,0.124067,0.148267,0.0248 9,-0.009367,0.022158,0,-0.00517,-0.002769,-0.008181,0.021322,0.006496,0.008692,-0.018731,-0.000963,-0.001357,-0.009016,-0.009518,0.004687,0.001634,-0.01038,-0.011729,0.005688,-0.001479,0.001928,0.005389
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10387,0.113823,0.157407,0.0173 48,-0.020672,0.031083,-0.005299,-0.011986,0.001615,-0.000409,0.045923,0.003897,0.004196,-0.025272,-0.00812,-0.017372,-0.004641,-0.005607,0.004307,0.017095,-0.012381,-0.010981,0.006677,-0.002342,0.01205,-0.003473
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10388,0.126344,0.157407,0.0199 87,-0.019703,0.029236,-0.009761,0.001645,-0.005538,0.006749,0.031162,0.004384,0.008992,-0.014569,-0.004266,-0.013436,-0.004641,0.002347,0.001014,0.008547,-0.012131,-0.012728,0.006925,0.0053,0.011447,-0.005628
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10389,0.124067,0.147252,0.0275 3,-0.007106,0.013233,-0.01255,0.004935,-0.006231,-0.002045,0.012574,0.012991,0.002847,-0.011744,-0.0139,-0.008415,0.002917,0.01369,0.009628,0.007416,0.0013 76,-0.017095,0.023494,-0.000123,0.0194,-0.002634
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10390,0.126344,0.153345,0.0226 27,-0.023256,0.031083,-0.010319,-0.002585,-0.006,0.008795,0.027518,0.001461,0.007643,-0.015015,0.00289,-0.00855,-0.01538,-0.009909,-0.001267,0.003017,-0.02001,-0.012603,0.005193,0.006409,0.005663,-0.005149
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10391,0.120652,0.159438,0.0169 7,-0.025194,0.028621,-0.016733,-0.00799,-0.006923,0.008999,0.033167,0,0.004346,-0.008622,0.008395,-0.014115,-0.0179,-0.007302,0.004181,0.008673,-0.013256,-0.010856,0.00272,-0.002588,0.005061,0.001317
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I7233,0.119514,0.157407,0.01055 9,-0.045543,0.030775,-0.013666,-0.000235,0.000923,0.011862,0.04155,0.006658,0.0115 4,-0.020367,-0.008808,-0.033659,-0.01127,0.009388,0.000253,0.011439,-0.01138,-0.009982,0.013602,-0.005669,0.004458,-0.005269
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I8112,0.12862,0.142174,0.026398 ,-0.012597,0.035083,-0.011992,-0.00188,0.000923,0.00225,0.025331,-0.000325,0.009292,-0.013974,-0.015138,-0.00475,0.011403,0.017993,0.007348,0.005279,-0.008754,-0.001996,-0.01014,-0.001725,0.000843,-0.008861
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5723,0.124067,0.152329,0.039221,-0.006783,0.045239,-0.00251,0.00188,-0.003231,0.012271,0.030616,-0.004547,0.006444,-0.016501,-0.003441,-0.010043,0.003447,-0.000913,0.000887,0.004902,0.002376,-0.00836,0.001607,-0.004437,-0.001205,0.001557
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5724,0.126344,0.152329,0.027907,0 .006783,0.033237,-0.00753,0.006815,0.003923,0.01493,0.028976,-0.000162,0.008393,-0.009663,-0.00812,-0.007465,0.001458,-0.002086,0.007348,0.011816,-0.003377,-0.005989,0.011871,0.002095,-0.010724,0.000479
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5725,0.112685,0.153345,0.039221,0 .006783,0.041238,0.005857,0.000705,-0.001846,0.01309,0.02606,-0.001624,0.010641,-0.010109,-0.009909,-0.001357,-0.002784,0.00326,0.005321,0,0.002751,-0.000624,-0.001978,-0.00912,-0.004097,0.002395
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5726,0.118376,0.15436,0.040729,-0.002907,0.03693,-0.005857,-0.003995,0.002538,0.014317,0.029522,-0.003248,0.005245,-0.010258,-0.015689,-0.001221,0.01485,0.021905,0.000253,-0.005028,0.005378,-0.001248,-0.003833,-0.006532,0.003615,-0.006826
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5728,0.124067,0.150298,0.04186,-0.004522,0.041546,-0.010598,0.00094,-0.000231,0.020657,0.0277,-0.002111,0.007943,-0.014123,0.003028,0.001221,-0.011535,-0.007823,0.000887,0.001383,0.001,-0.001747,0.014962,-0.005546,0.004217,-0.008502
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5729,0.127482,0.149283,0.038466,0 ,0.032621,0.003626,0.001645,-0.003923,0.012476,0.024237,-0.005846,0.014237,-0.018434,-0.005367,-0.003529,0.000398,0.004563,0.00266,0.001885,-0.002126,0,0.000495,0.002835,-0.003735,-0.00455
Pakistan_Butkara,0.0599467,-0.0203103,-0.1306093,0.0803193,-0.087196,0.0472253,0.001645,0.003846,-0.005454,-6.07e-05,-0.0027063,-0.0017983,-0.004559,-0.005184,0.006198,0.0156897,0.0101263,-0.001605,0.0028073,-0.0067113,-0.0002497,-0.0084907,-0.0029167,-0.0037757,0.00475
Celtic-England,0.1324143,0.1289723,0.060339,0.0472657,0.0 35391,0.0190573,0.0055617,0.0018463,0.0049767,0.00 4313,-0.0033557,0.004396,-0.008622,-0.018304,0.017372,0.0154247,0.0068667,-0.0030827,0.0019277,0.0041687,0.003785,-0.0002063,-0.0037387,0.011086,0.0007587
Nordic,0.132035,0.125926,0.075801,0.068476,0.04493 1,0.026495,0.011281,0.006,0.002454,-0.010752,-0.003085,0.003297,-0.007433,0.002752,0.020358,-0.007955,-0.02021,0.006334,0.00817,0.006378,0.002995,0.00086 6,0.002465,0.007712,0.00455
Caucasian,0.09675,0.090382,-0.021873,0.044574,-0.03693,0.026495,0.00282,-0.001846,-0.046018,-0.038452,-0.003248,0.003297,-0.000743,-0.020919,0.021444,0.020817,-0.009127,-0.000887,-0.002891,-0.00963,-0.000374,-0.001855,-0.000123,0.009399,0.001796
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14688,0.122929,0.161469, 0.02489,-0.028101,0.028005,-0.015618,0.004935,0.001846,0.000409,0.019499,-0.000974,0.01139,-0.016799,-0.004266,-0.006786,-0.016441,-0.009518,0.004054,0.005028,-0.007253,-0.013601,0.009398,-0.005176,0.011086,-0.007065
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14690,0.125205,0.149283, 0.034318,-0.00646,0.029544,-0.005857,-0.001175,0.004846,-0.00225,0.019681,0.001461,0.002698,-0.020069,-0.006468,-0.003122,0.002121,0.001825,0.003167,0.002011,-0.002501,-0.007861,0.003462,0.005423,-0.004217,-0.005269
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14692,0.125205,0.152329, 0.025644,-0.010336,0.019388,0.001116,-0.008695,0.003461,0.006136,0.025878,0.007145,0.010 641,-0.018583,-0.00234,-0.011536,-0.006099,0.008605,0.00038,0.009679,-0.004877,-0.010981,-0.006183,-0.001479,0.012411,0.003113
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16251,0.124067,0.144205, 0.018102,-0.019703,0.025851,-0.003347,0.002115,0.008077,0.000205,0.022233,-0.000974,0.005095,-0.017096,-0.017753,-0.013301,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.003294,0.010182,-0.013006,-0.000125,0.005441,-0.007148,-0.001687,-0.004431
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16253,0.130897,0.156392, 0.034318,-0.010982,0.035083,-0.000279,0.002115,0.001846,0.0045,0.029158,0.00893 1,0.015436,-0.024083,-0.001927,-0.012893,0.000796,0.012647,0.008361,0.011816,-0.009505,-0.011355,-0.002349,-0.003944,0.008917,-0.007185
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16254,0.120652,0.157407, 0.039598,-0.006137,0.031698,-0.011992,0.00705,-0.014076,-0.011044,0.033896,-0.002761,0.001349,-0.018137,-0.005918,-0.010586,-0.007558,0.021774,0.00076,-0.009176,-0.013256,-0.006988,-0.003215,-0.010846,0.01446,-0.008382
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16256,0.118376,0.151314, 0.02489,-0.005491,0.034468,-0.001673,0.00188,-0.003231,0,0.018406,0.005359,-0.000599,-0.013379,-0.014863,-0.006107,0.013392,0.034943,-0.003547,0.003645,-0.010255,0.01148,0.005812,-0.00037,0.005181,-0.009101
Illyrian:ALB_MBA:I8471,0.124067,0.144205,0.017725, 0.000323,0.03416,-0.019801,0.00564,-0.012461,0.011658,0.034078,0.003248,0.004346,-0.005352,-0.022432,-0.008822,0.004243,0.026989,-0.007475,0.001885,0.006128,-0.000873,0.006059,0.007765,0.010724,0.008143
Balto-Slavic,0.135449,0.121864,0.095789,0.092055,0.05539 5,0.035698,0.014101,0.031845,0.000818,-0.039181,0.003897,-0.017534,0.043558,0.041149,-0.002579,-0.002917,-0.004563,0.006714,-0.00729,0.001376,0.012104,-0.011005,0.018734,-0.011086,-0.002155
Slavic,0.129432857,0.125925714,0.073592429,0.06533 8286,0.041194286,0.024861286,0.011414857,0.0100544 29,2.92857E-05,-0.020046,-0.002667714,-0.005695,0.013549286,0.023513714,-0.010993286,-0.001894143,3.71429E-05,-0.000416429,0.004794571,0.003037143,-0.001033857,-0.005776143,0.008345714,-0.006850857,0.000906571
JohnnyP
09-29-2022, 06:06 PM
Samples from North Macedonia
<tbody>
Sample
Date
Analysis_Label
Locality
Country
Lat.
Long.
Coverage
Y-DNA
mtDNA
I3881
-4750
MKD_N
Pista Novo Selo
North Macedonia
41,36
22,88
5,07%
n/a (female)
n/a (<2x)
I7231
-1219
MKD_BA
Dimov Grob, V. Ulanci-Gradsko
North Macedonia
41,58
21,94
72,93%
R-CTS7556
T2b
I10171
-1200
MKD_BA_lc
Vodovratski Pat, V. Vodovrati-Gradsko
North Macedonia
41,58
21,87
0,55%
n/a (female)
..
I10168
-1100
MKD_BA_lc
Skopje, Skupi, East Necropolis
North Macedonia
42,01
21,39
0,58%
..
..
I7233
-850
MKD_Anc
Vodovratski Pat, V. Vodovrati-Gradsko
North Macedonia
41,58
21,87
74,59%
n/a (female)
H35
I10388
-708
MKD_Anc
Plaosnik-Ohrid
North Macedonia
41,11
20,79
67,44%
J-Y13128
J1c2
I8112
-664
MKD_Anc
Lisicin Dol, Marvinci, Valandovo
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
70,53%
R-CTS1450
H
I10383
-657
MKD_Anc
Lisicin Dol-Marvinci, Valandovo
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
67,48%
n/a (female)
U2e1a1
I10385
-641
MKD_Anc
Plaosnik-Ohrid
North Macedonia
41,11
20,79
69,29%
n/a (female)
H1e
I10379
-641
MKD_Anc
Bucinci-Skopje
North Macedonia
42,03
21,64
66,02%
n/a (female)
K1a+195
I10381
-636
MKD_Anc
Govrlevo-Skopje
North Macedonia
41,93
21,34
22,20%
C-V86
U5a1c
I10378
-600
MKD_Anc
Bucinci-Skopje
North Macedonia
42,03
21,64
1,59%
n/a (female)
T2b
I10380
-600
MKD_IA_lc
Govrlevo-Skopje
North Macedonia
41,93
21,34
0,59%
n/a (female)
K1a4a1
I10389
-600
MKD_Anc
Plaosnik-Ohrid
North Macedonia
41,11
20,79
15,50%
n/a (female)
K1a3a
I10387
-600
MKD_Anc
Plaosnik-Ohrid
North Macedonia
41,11
20,79
43,99%
n/a (female)
J1c+16261
I10384
-600
MKD_Anc
Plaosnik-Ohrid
North Macedonia
41,11
20,79
65,57%
J-Y13128
H8c
I10382
-600
MKD_Anc
Govrlevo-Skopje
North Macedonia
41,93
21,34
7,60%
n/a (female)
H1n+146
I10377
-600
MKD_Anc
Bucinci-Skopje
North Macedonia
42,03
21,64
4,87%
R-M269
H
I10390
-393
MKD_Anc
Marvinci-Valandovo (southwest necropolis)
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
67,94%
G-Z6494
J1c5d
I10392
-300
MKD_Anc_outlier1
Isar Marvinci, V. Marvinci-Valandovo, Southwest Necropolis
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
67,05%
J-BY94
U5b1b
I10166
-300
MKD_Anc
Isar Marvinci, V. Marvinci-Valandovo, Southwest Necropolis
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
1,56%
E-L618
..
I10391
-300
MKD_Anc
Marvinci-Valandovo (southwest necropolis)
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
66,29%
n/a (female)
J1c
I10167
-121
MKD_Anc_outlier2
Marvinci-Valandovo (southwest necropolis)
North Macedonia
41,28
22,49
12,67%
R-M269
..
I2530
1035
MKD_Mdv
Tumba S. Opticari, Bitola
North Macedonia
41,03
21,33
58,80%
n/a (female)
H1
</tbody>
Macedonian average from 100 G25 sims ;
<tbody>
Target: Macedonian
Distance: 1.1104% / 0.01110387
73.0
Ancient-Macedonian
14.6
Balto-Slavic
9.8
Caucasian
1.8
Illyrian
0.8
Pakistan_Butkara
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: Macedonian
Distance: 1.3120% / 0.01312000 | ADC: 0.25x
60.0
Ancient-Macedonian
18.2
Illyrian
9.4
Slavic
7.0
Caucasian
5.4
Balto-Slavic
</tbody>
<tbody>
Target: Macedonian
Distance: 1.1159% / 0.01115895 | R3P
74.0
Ancient-Macedonian
14.6
Balto-Slavic
11.4
Caucasian
</tbody>
<tbody>
Distance to:
Macedonian
0.03334029
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14690
0.03568198
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10384
0.03703264
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14692
0.03821482
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10385
0.03945969
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16251
0.04008026
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5729
0.04114283
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10388
0.04252285
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5724
0.04265533
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I3313
0.04293207
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5723
0.04336471
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I8112
0.04436366
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10390
0.04539412
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16253
0.04755478
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10391
0.04782672
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5725
0.04831282
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10381
0.04895917
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14688
0.04933028
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10379
0.05034408
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10383
0.05049162
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5728
0.05075481
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10389
0.05087622
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16256
0.05381610
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5726
0.05551697
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16254
0.05757551
Illyrian:ALB_MBA:I8471
0.05849417
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10387
0.06872893
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I7233
0.08788259
Celtic-England
0.10562810
Slavic
0.11406755
Nordic
0.14399650
Caucasian
0.16317711
Balto-Slavic
0.27968825
Pakistan_Butkara
</tbody>
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10379,0.129758,0.149283,0.0218 73,-0.027132,0.027082,-0.012829,0.005875,0.001846,0.002659,0.034989,-0.001461,0.01169,-0.007284,-0.003716,-0.019137,0.008353,0.029206,-0.002154,0.005656,0.001876,-0.018093,0.002349,-0.002095,0.008435,-0.004311Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10381,0.134311,0.151314,0.0267 76,-0.031331,0.028928,-0.000837,-0.000235,-0.003231,0.006749,0.04319,0.000162,-3e-04,-0.015758,0.005092,-0.009365,-0.006364,0.00678,0.00152,0.006285,0.001751,-0.009358,0.001731,0.003821,-0.003133,0.012334
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10383,0.12862,0.149283,0.02526 7,-0.018734,0.030159,-0.009482,0.003525,-0.004154,0.002454,0.031709,-0.005359,0.013188,-0.020812,-0.017065,-0.012893,0.007823,0.024251,0.007728,0.007165,0.000 75,-0.00836,-0.00136,-0.001725,0.009158,-0.005269
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10384,0.125205,0.156392,0.0263 98,-0.010013,0.026774,-0.004183,0.002115,-0.003923,0.006954,0.025331,0.001299,0.006894,-0.014123,-0.005918,-0.012758,-0.00053,0.004824,0.002787,0.005028,-0.014257,-0.015223,-0.000371,-0.00986,0.003615,-0.006706
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10385,0.124067,0.148267,0.0248 9,-0.009367,0.022158,0,-0.00517,-0.002769,-0.008181,0.021322,0.006496,0.008692,-0.018731,-0.000963,-0.001357,-0.009016,-0.009518,0.004687,0.001634,-0.01038,-0.011729,0.005688,-0.001479,0.001928,0.005389
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10387,0.113823,0.157407,0.0173 48,-0.020672,0.031083,-0.005299,-0.011986,0.001615,-0.000409,0.045923,0.003897,0.004196,-0.025272,-0.00812,-0.017372,-0.004641,-0.005607,0.004307,0.017095,-0.012381,-0.010981,0.006677,-0.002342,0.01205,-0.003473
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10388,0.126344,0.157407,0.0199 87,-0.019703,0.029236,-0.009761,0.001645,-0.005538,0.006749,0.031162,0.004384,0.008992,-0.014569,-0.004266,-0.013436,-0.004641,0.002347,0.001014,0.008547,-0.012131,-0.012728,0.006925,0.0053,0.011447,-0.005628
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10389,0.124067,0.147252,0.0275 3,-0.007106,0.013233,-0.01255,0.004935,-0.006231,-0.002045,0.012574,0.012991,0.002847,-0.011744,-0.0139,-0.008415,0.002917,0.01369,0.009628,0.007416,0.0013 76,-0.017095,0.023494,-0.000123,0.0194,-0.002634
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10390,0.126344,0.153345,0.0226 27,-0.023256,0.031083,-0.010319,-0.002585,-0.006,0.008795,0.027518,0.001461,0.007643,-0.015015,0.00289,-0.00855,-0.01538,-0.009909,-0.001267,0.003017,-0.02001,-0.012603,0.005193,0.006409,0.005663,-0.005149
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I10391,0.120652,0.159438,0.0169 7,-0.025194,0.028621,-0.016733,-0.00799,-0.006923,0.008999,0.033167,0,0.004346,-0.008622,0.008395,-0.014115,-0.0179,-0.007302,0.004181,0.008673,-0.013256,-0.010856,0.00272,-0.002588,0.005061,0.001317
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I7233,0.119514,0.157407,0.01055 9,-0.045543,0.030775,-0.013666,-0.000235,0.000923,0.011862,0.04155,0.006658,0.0115 4,-0.020367,-0.008808,-0.033659,-0.01127,0.009388,0.000253,0.011439,-0.01138,-0.009982,0.013602,-0.005669,0.004458,-0.005269
Ancient-Macedonian:MKD_Anc:I8112,0.12862,0.142174,0.026398 ,-0.012597,0.035083,-0.011992,-0.00188,0.000923,0.00225,0.025331,-0.000325,0.009292,-0.013974,-0.015138,-0.00475,0.011403,0.017993,0.007348,0.005279,-0.008754,-0.001996,-0.01014,-0.001725,0.000843,-0.008861
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I3313,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5723,0.124067,0.152329,0.039221,-0.006783,0.045239,-0.00251,0.00188,-0.003231,0.012271,0.030616,-0.004547,0.006444,-0.016501,-0.003441,-0.010043,0.003447,-0.000913,0.000887,0.004902,0.002376,-0.00836,0.001607,-0.004437,-0.001205,0.001557
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5724,0.126344,0.152329,0.027907,0 .006783,0.033237,-0.00753,0.006815,0.003923,0.01493,0.028976,-0.000162,0.008393,-0.009663,-0.00812,-0.007465,0.001458,-0.002086,0.007348,0.011816,-0.003377,-0.005989,0.011871,0.002095,-0.010724,0.000479
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5725,0.112685,0.153345,0.039221,0 .006783,0.041238,0.005857,0.000705,-0.001846,0.01309,0.02606,-0.001624,0.010641,-0.010109,-0.009909,-0.001357,-0.002784,0.00326,0.005321,0,0.002751,-0.000624,-0.001978,-0.00912,-0.004097,0.002395
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5726,0.118376,0.15436,0.040729,-0.002907,0.03693,-0.005857,-0.003995,0.002538,0.014317,0.029522,-0.003248,0.005245,-0.010258,-0.015689,-0.001221,0.01485,0.021905,0.000253,-0.005028,0.005378,-0.001248,-0.003833,-0.006532,0.003615,-0.006826
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5728,0.124067,0.150298,0.04186,-0.004522,0.041546,-0.010598,0.00094,-0.000231,0.020657,0.0277,-0.002111,0.007943,-0.014123,0.003028,0.001221,-0.011535,-0.007823,0.000887,0.001383,0.001,-0.001747,0.014962,-0.005546,0.004217,-0.008502
Illyrian:HRV_IA:I5729,0.127482,0.149283,0.038466,0 ,0.032621,0.003626,0.001645,-0.003923,0.012476,0.024237,-0.005846,0.014237,-0.018434,-0.005367,-0.003529,0.000398,0.004563,0.00266,0.001885,-0.002126,0,0.000495,0.002835,-0.003735,-0.00455
Pakistan_Butkara,0.0599467,-0.0203103,-0.1306093,0.0803193,-0.087196,0.0472253,0.001645,0.003846,-0.005454,-6.07e-05,-0.0027063,-0.0017983,-0.004559,-0.005184,0.006198,0.0156897,0.0101263,-0.001605,0.0028073,-0.0067113,-0.0002497,-0.0084907,-0.0029167,-0.0037757,0.00475
Celtic-England,0.1324143,0.1289723,0.060339,0.0472657,0.0 35391,0.0190573,0.0055617,0.0018463,0.0049767,0.00 4313,-0.0033557,0.004396,-0.008622,-0.018304,0.017372,0.0154247,0.0068667,-0.0030827,0.0019277,0.0041687,0.003785,-0.0002063,-0.0037387,0.011086,0.0007587
Nordic,0.132035,0.125926,0.075801,0.068476,0.04493 1,0.026495,0.011281,0.006,0.002454,-0.010752,-0.003085,0.003297,-0.007433,0.002752,0.020358,-0.007955,-0.02021,0.006334,0.00817,0.006378,0.002995,0.00086 6,0.002465,0.007712,0.00455
Caucasian,0.09675,0.090382,-0.021873,0.044574,-0.03693,0.026495,0.00282,-0.001846,-0.046018,-0.038452,-0.003248,0.003297,-0.000743,-0.020919,0.021444,0.020817,-0.009127,-0.000887,-0.002891,-0.00963,-0.000374,-0.001855,-0.000123,0.009399,0.001796
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14688,0.122929,0.161469, 0.02489,-0.028101,0.028005,-0.015618,0.004935,0.001846,0.000409,0.019499,-0.000974,0.01139,-0.016799,-0.004266,-0.006786,-0.016441,-0.009518,0.004054,0.005028,-0.007253,-0.013601,0.009398,-0.005176,0.011086,-0.007065
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14690,0.125205,0.149283, 0.034318,-0.00646,0.029544,-0.005857,-0.001175,0.004846,-0.00225,0.019681,0.001461,0.002698,-0.020069,-0.006468,-0.003122,0.002121,0.001825,0.003167,0.002011,-0.002501,-0.007861,0.003462,0.005423,-0.004217,-0.005269
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14692,0.125205,0.152329, 0.025644,-0.010336,0.019388,0.001116,-0.008695,0.003461,0.006136,0.025878,0.007145,0.010 641,-0.018583,-0.00234,-0.011536,-0.006099,0.008605,0.00038,0.009679,-0.004877,-0.010981,-0.006183,-0.001479,0.012411,0.003113
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16251,0.124067,0.144205, 0.018102,-0.019703,0.025851,-0.003347,0.002115,0.008077,0.000205,0.022233,-0.000974,0.005095,-0.017096,-0.017753,-0.013301,-0.003447,0.00665,-0.003294,0.010182,-0.013006,-0.000125,0.005441,-0.007148,-0.001687,-0.004431
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16253,0.130897,0.156392, 0.034318,-0.010982,0.035083,-0.000279,0.002115,0.001846,0.0045,0.029158,0.00893 1,0.015436,-0.024083,-0.001927,-0.012893,0.000796,0.012647,0.008361,0.011816,-0.009505,-0.011355,-0.002349,-0.003944,0.008917,-0.007185
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16254,0.120652,0.157407, 0.039598,-0.006137,0.031698,-0.011992,0.00705,-0.014076,-0.011044,0.033896,-0.002761,0.001349,-0.018137,-0.005918,-0.010586,-0.007558,0.021774,0.00076,-0.009176,-0.013256,-0.006988,-0.003215,-0.010846,0.01446,-0.008382
Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16256,0.118376,0.151314, 0.02489,-0.005491,0.034468,-0.001673,0.00188,-0.003231,0,0.018406,0.005359,-0.000599,-0.013379,-0.014863,-0.006107,0.013392,0.034943,-0.003547,0.003645,-0.010255,0.01148,0.005812,-0.00037,0.005181,-0.009101
Illyrian:ALB_MBA:I8471,0.124067,0.144205,0.017725, 0.000323,0.03416,-0.019801,0.00564,-0.012461,0.011658,0.034078,0.003248,0.004346,-0.005352,-0.022432,-0.008822,0.004243,0.026989,-0.007475,0.001885,0.006128,-0.000873,0.006059,0.007765,0.010724,0.008143
Balto-Slavic,0.135449,0.121864,0.095789,0.092055,0.05539 5,0.035698,0.014101,0.031845,0.000818,-0.039181,0.003897,-0.017534,0.043558,0.041149,-0.002579,-0.002917,-0.004563,0.006714,-0.00729,0.001376,0.012104,-0.011005,0.018734,-0.011086,-0.002155
Slavic,0.129432857,0.125925714,0.073592429,0.06533 8286,0.041194286,0.024861286,0.011414857,0.0100544 29,2.92857E-05,-0.020046,-0.002667714,-0.005695,0.013549286,0.023513714,-0.010993286,-0.001894143,3.71429E-05,-0.000416429,0.004794571,0.003037143,-0.001033857,-0.005776143,0.008345714,-0.006850857,0.000906571
Macedonian(n=120),0.1221137,0.1428205,0.0224179,-0.0081292,0.0261456,-0.0018024,0.0040086,0.0024083,0.0016661,0.0116851,-0.0009672,0.00148,-0.0025211,0.0091482,-0.0123715,-0.0017083,0.0059696,0.0005986,0.0055083,-0.0045047,-0.0054208,-0.0012481,0.0025807,0.000303,-0.0008277
Target: Macedonian
Distance: 1.4715% / 0.01471535 | R3P
74.0 Ancient-Macedonian
21.8 Slavic
4.2 Pakistan_Butkara
Target: Macedonian(n=120)
Distance: 0.3636% / 0.00363620 | R3P
43.8 Albanian
40.0 Greek_Western_Greece_Aetolia-Acarnania_Thermo
16.2 Czechia_Early_Medieval_Pohansko_Early_Slav
JohnnyP
10-02-2022, 12:26 AM
https://i.imgur.com/VSGx2Ls.png
Modern Macedonians vs Ancient Macedonians
Modern Macedonians : (Macedonians , Albanians , Thessalians , greeks from region Macedonia )
https://i.imgur.com/4T7fXw9.png
Rizza
10-02-2022, 02:15 AM
This is a map made by an Albanian from anthrogenica, if you send me kits of Macedonians I will try and make one like this
https://i.ibb.co/1XjH3Qq/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views-3.png
JohnnyP
10-02-2022, 02:49 AM
This is a map made by an Albanian from anthrogenica, if you send me kits of Macedonians I will try and make one like this
It's okay, I can make map like this , I just wanted to show visually moderns and ancients in a simple way.
JohnnyP
10-17-2022, 04:30 PM
Macedonian Pelagonia - y-DNA E-V22
SF2909071
https://i.imgur.com/CMZzCO6.png
Macedonian - Vardar/Central - Demir Kapija - female
FZ8254089
https://i.imgur.com/BVXteWL.png
JohnnyP
10-18-2022, 01:08 PM
Macedonian
TD8521509
https://i.imgur.com/AJpVZxT.png
JohnnyP
10-21-2022, 05:51 PM
Macedonian from Kicevo / West part ( father is from Bigor Dolenci and mother is from Miokazi )
MK2542669
https://i.imgur.com/0zcElUY.png
Target: Kicevo
Distance: 75.9186% / 0.75918578 | R3P
42.4 Swiss_Italian
31.4 Greek_Kythera
26.2 Polish_Subcarpathia
Alexandr666
10-23-2022, 04:17 PM
Macedonian from Skopje and Debar,
LH1729790
https://i.imgur.com/10VOuk9.png
Havva you any result from someone fully from Debar
JohnnyP
11-07-2022, 04:06 PM
Macedonian from Pelagonia
https://i.imgur.com/tqNMeOr.png
Distance to: Pelagonia
5.18347374 Albanian_North_Albania
5.25413171 Albanian_Kosovo
5.39931477 Macedonian_Central
5.60272255 Macedonian_East
5.62381543 Torbesh
6.16469788 Albanian_Macedonia
6.24950398 Albanian_Montenegro
6.28825095 Macedonian_South
7.06510439 Greek_Florina
7.16467724 Aromanian
7.16955368 Greek_Thessaly
7.57546698 Macedonian_North
7.76191987 Bulgarian_Moldova
7.90275268 Greek_CentralMacedonia
7.98390882 Albanian_Central_Albania
8.03324965 Albanian_South_Albania
8.07931309 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
8.33298866 Greek_Arcadia
8.33847108 Greek_Euboea_South
JohnnyP
11-17-2022, 02:40 PM
YP4774367
https://i.imgur.com/AtvekTs.png
Distance to: YP4774367
3.44708573 Albanian_Macedonia
3.59232515 Greek_Florina
4.25152914 Aromanian
4.68187996 Torbesh
4.68293711 Albanian_North_Albania
5.07958660 Albanian_Montenegro
5.37175949 Greek_Thessaly
5.58087807 Albanian_Kosovo
5.87097948 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.95037814 Albanian_South_Albania
6.32732961 Greek_Epirus
6.36885390 Greek_Thrace
6.47922063 Greek_West
6.73938424 Bulgarian_Southcentral
6.78988218 Turkish_Macedonia
7.01635945 Bulgarian_Moldova
7.10970464 Gagauz
7.27398103 Greek_Arcadia
7.41652210 Greek_Achaea
7.45809627 Bulgarian_Southeastern
7.60586616 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
7.63525376 Greek_Peloponnese
7.69505036 Bulgarian_Northcentral
7.83061939 Greek_Euboea_South
7.94299692 Greek_Laconia
JohnnyP
11-18-2022, 01:29 PM
FQ4217197
https://i.imgur.com/CJvAbB2.png
Target: Alexander
Distance: 69.3225% / 0.69322477 | R3P
60.8 Greek_Epirus
30.2 Italian_Trentino
9.0 Russian_North
Distance to: Alexander
2.31706711 Macedonian_West
2.32875503 Albanian_Montenegro
3.32902388 Macedonian
3.43407921 Macedonian_North
3.59398108 Macedonian_East
3.67692807 Macedonian_Central&South
4.55120863 Albanian_Kosovo
4.63621613 Greek_Florina
4.77401299 Aromanian
4.83595906 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
JohnnyP
12-18-2022, 07:11 PM
CU9267347
https://i.imgur.com/48gzPhK.png
JE5815950
https://i.imgur.com/RgJOF6L.png
CV8953968
https://i.imgur.com/U6FZWPh.png
Vulfgar
12-24-2022, 11:10 AM
I don't know if this has been posted before, but here are the results of a Macedonian from Valoviste/Sidirokastro, Belomorska Macedonia
116838
116839
JohnnyP
02-09-2023, 05:33 PM
DT6314685 - y-dna R1b-L23
https://i.imgur.com/hPlLmqS.png
PF5349782
https://i.imgur.com/cU0itMW.png
JohnnyP
09-23-2024, 10:36 PM
Macedonian Girl from Struga,
MarijaK_scaled,0.122929,0.138112,0.018102,-0.015181,0.022466,-0.003347,0.003525,0.000923,-0.002045,0.007289,0.002598,0.005995,-0.008176,0.009358,-0.015608,-0.009944,-0.010431,-0.001394,0.005656,-0.007504,-0.006239,-0.001113,0.00419,-0.001205,0.006586
MarijaK,0.0108,0.0136,0.0048,-0.0047,0.0073,-0.0012,0.0015,0.0004,-0.001,0.004,0.0016,0.004,-0.0055,0.0068,-0.0115,-0.0075,-0.008,-0.0011,0.0045,-0.006,-0.005,-0.0009,0.0034,-0.001,0.0055
Distance to: MarijaK_scaled
0.03384962 Ancient-Macedonian(SocalledPaeonian):MKD_Anc:I10385
0.04086479 Ancient-Macedonian(SocalledPaeonian):MKD_Anc:I10390
0.04196935 Illyrian:HRV_IA:I3313
0.04249734 Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14690
0.04324886 Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14692
0.04363685 Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16251
0.04504252 Ancient-Macedonian(SocalledPaeonian):MKD_Anc:I10384
0.04552522 Ancient-Macedonian(SocalledPaeonian):MKD_Anc:I10391
0.04555226 Ancient-Macedonian(SocalledPaeonian):MKD_Anc:I10388
0.04626470 Illyrian:ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14688
Distance to: MarijaK_scaled
0.02265757 South_East_Europe:Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.02507099 Macedonian
0.02701679 South_East_Europe:Greek_Epirus
0.02746764 South_East_Europe:Greek_Heptanese_Corfu
0.02775455 South_East_Europe:Albanian
0.02802334 South_East_Europe:Greek_Eastern_Rumelia
0.02833078 South_East_Europe:Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.03028393 South_East_Europe:Greek_Peloponnese_Messinia_Messi ni
0.03054251 South_East_Europe:Greek_Peloponnese_Laconia_Sparta _Municipality
0.03077307 South_East_Europe:Greek_Peloponnese_Arcadia
Target: MarijaK_scaled
Distance: 2.1642% / 0.02164204
67.0 Ancient-Macedonian(SocalledPaeonian)
13.0 Caucasian
9.6 Balto-Slavic
9.2 Illyrian
1.2 Pakistan_Butkara
djipon
09-24-2024, 03:01 PM
I've talked to her and modeled her on my calculator not so long ago. Had some constructive conversations on shared history!
https://i.postimg.cc/vTfyK7Ws/image.png
https://i.postimg.cc/CK5g0pjJ/image.png
JohnnyP
09-24-2024, 04:24 PM
:)
Not even close to bulgarians ,
https://i.imgur.com/Vweg5n3.png
What constructive conversation with Bulgar she can have ? To try to brainwash her brain that we share history or DNA ? Or by your modeling that she is half Bulgarian ?
Clearly by her results , she is so far from any Bulgarian results , and in general , Macedonians do not score same results as Bulgarians,
I think by all results by now , bulgars should be aware that they are not same as Macedonians , only closeness is from Macedonians from Blagoevgrad , Sofia , Pirin Macedonia ( Southwest Bulgaria ) , because they are labeled now as Bulgarians.
djipon
09-24-2024, 08:42 PM
What constructive conversation with Bulgar she can have ?
To try to brainwash her brain that we share history or DNA ? Or by your modeling that she is half Bulgarian ?
Clearly by her results , she is so far from any Bulgarian results , and in general , Macedonians do not score same results as Bulgarians,
I'm literally her distant relative on my father's side, lol. She obviously can't have constructive conversation with Bulgars, as they lived in the Medieval Age. One should consider that conversations can be held without somebody "brainwashing" the other, or whatever you assume happened.
I think it is common knowledge that Macedonians and Bulgarians are in fact close to each other/can score each other interchangeably. And nobody is talking politics or anything - just the two populations. The same way Bulgarians and Romanians score each other. My closest population on illustrativeDNA and most calculators is either North Macedonian or Bulgarian. Sadly, the only ones that refuse to admit the closeness (nobody talks about identity here) are North Macedonians.
Lux Tenebras
09-24-2024, 09:12 PM
I'm literally her distant relative on my father's side, lol. She obviously can't have constructive conversation with Bulgars, as they lived in the Medieval Age. One should consider that conversations can be held without somebody "brainwashing" the other, or whatever you assume happened.
I think it is common knowledge that Macedonians and Bulgarians are in fact close to each other/can score each other interchangeably. And nobody is talking politics or anything - just the two populations. The same way Bulgarians and Romanians score each other. My closest population on illustrativeDNA and most calculators is either North Macedonian or Bulgarian. Sadly, the only ones that refuse to admit the closeness (nobody talks about identity here) are North Macedonians.
I don't think Bulgarians have profiles like this but however of all other south slavs you would be closest to them.
Target: MarijaK_scaled
Distance: 2.6500% / 0.02649991
66.2 Old_Balkan
10.6 East_Med
10.4 Old_Slavs
8.0 Volga_Basin
4.8 Early_Germanic
Target: Macedonian_Jegunovce_scaled
Distance: 2.5330% / 0.02532968
70.8 Old_Balkan
22.0 Old_Slavs
7.2 Keltic_Central_Euro
Target: K_scaled
Distance: 3.1194% / 0.03119361
60.8 Old_Balkan
19.4 Old_Slavs
8.8 Volga_Basin
7.2 East_Med
3.8 Early_Germanic
NdvBal
09-24-2024, 10:20 PM
G25 coordinates of a Torbesh girl
Torbesh_girl_scaled,0.117238,0.140143,0.017725,-0.011628,0.020927,-0.009203,0.00376,-0.000231,-0.006545,0.014579,0.003248,0.002698,-0.005946,-0.001239,-0.017779,0.005834,0.017993,-0.001014,0.005154,-0.006503,-0.009483,-0.001607,0.007765,0.000361,-0.010658
djipon
09-24-2024, 11:01 PM
Are Torbeshi considered Macedonian Muslims the same way Pomaks are Bulgarian Muslims, or they have their own identity?
Live The Magic
09-24-2024, 11:08 PM
G25 coordinates of a Torbesh girl
Torbesh_girl_scaled,0.117238,0.140143,0.017725,-0.011628,0.020927,-0.009203,0.00376,-0.000231,-0.006545,0.014579,0.003248,0.002698,-0.005946,-0.001239,-0.017779,0.005834,0.017993,-0.001014,0.005154,-0.006503,-0.009483,-0.001607,0.007765,0.000361,-0.010658
This person has some Turkish ancestor it seems. Gets about 1/8 European Turk.
NdvBal
09-30-2024, 11:22 PM
Macedonian
Kit TM2705694
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 23.99
2 Baltic 22.11
3 East_Med 20.35
4 West_Med 20.02
5 West_Asian 10.5
6 Red_Sea 2.05
7 Siberian 0.99
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.64
2 Romanian 4.1
3 Serbian 7.81
4 Greek_Thessaly 8.37
5 Tuscan 12.44
6 North_Italian 12.81
7 Moldavian 14.12
8 Italian_Abruzzo 14.31
9 Central_Greek 15.28
10 West_Sicilian 15.48
11 Hungarian 15.88
12 East_Sicilian 16.51
13 Croatian 16.74
14 Austrian 17.87
15 Ashkenazi 18.34
16 Portuguese 18.9
17 South_Italian 19.32
18 French 19.37
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.6
20 Spanish_Extremadura 19.81
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
TM2705694,23.99,22.11,20.02,10.5,20.35,2.05,0,0,0. 99,0,0,0,0
Distance to: TM2705694
1.69905856 Albanian_Montenegro
1.98499370 Macedonian_North
2.93141604 Macedonian_East
3.00141633 Macedonian_Central
3.16022151 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
3.79027703 Bulgarian_Southwestern
4.04018564 Bulgarian_Southcentral
4.07001228 Greek_Florina
4.15136122 Macedonian_South
4.22698474 Romanian_Oltenia
4.27003513 Romanian_Muntenia
4.50178853 Aromanian
4.51748824 Bulgarian_Northeastern
4.70880027 Romanian_Dobruja
4.74208815 Bulgarian_Northcentral
4.74778896 Bulgarian_Moldova
4.88494626 Montenegro_SouthEast
5.18640531 Albanian_Kosovo
5.40505319 Bulgarian_Northwestern
5.43484130 Serb_KosovoMetohija
5.45633577 Romanian_Banat
5.52941227 Bulgarian_Southeastern
5.82782121 Gagauz
6.12820528 Romanian_Transylvania
6.14326460 Albanian_North_Albania
NdvBal
09-30-2024, 11:26 PM
Macedonian
Kit QD2083013
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.36
2 East_Med 23.67
3 North_Atlantic 22.08
4 West_Med 16.85
5 West_Asian 8.33
6 Red_Sea 2.78
7 East_Asian 1.05
8 Amerindian 0.36
9 South_Asian 0.35
10 Oceanian 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.59
2 Romanian 5.95
3 Serbian 8.7
4 Greek_Thessaly 9.12
5 Moldavian 14.4
6 Tuscan 14.99
7 Italian_Abruzzo 15.87
8 Central_Greek 16.03
9 North_Italian 16.42
10 Hungarian 16.52
11 West_Sicilian 16.72
12 Croatian 16.82
13 East_Sicilian 17
14 Ashkenazi 17.23
15 Austrian 19.43
16 South_Italian 20.13
17 East_German 21.28
18 Portuguese 22.21
19 French 22.33
20 West_German 22.67
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
QD2083013,22.08,24.36,16.85,8.33,23.67,2.78,0.35,1 .05,0,0.36,0.18,0,0
Distance to: QD2083013
5.13341017 Bulgarian_Southcentral
5.17974903 Macedonian_North
5.44150714 Bulgarian_Northwestern
5.47254968 Bulgarian_Northcentral
5.77432247 Greek_Florina
5.85445130 Romanian_Muntenia
5.87016184 Pomak_Bulgaria
5.92780735 Aromanian
6.01152227 Romanian_Dobruja
6.15887977 Bulgarian_Southwestern
6.21478881 Albanian_Montenegro
6.23093091 Serb_KosovoMetohija
6.44768175 Romanian_Oltenia
6.50076149 Pomak_Greece
6.50359132 Gagauz
6.51033025 Macedonian_South
6.74332262 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
6.86073611 Montenegro_SouthEast
6.96200402 Moldovan_South
7.00871600 Bulgarian_Northeastern
7.19637409 Romanian_Banat
7.40837364 Bulgarian_Southeastern
7.53138102 Macedonian_Central
7.61522816 Romanian_Transylvania
7.62897765 Romanian_Moldavia_South
NdvBal
09-30-2024, 11:29 PM
A Macedonian with ancestry from Pelagonia and Ohrid
Kit SB5534115
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 24.95
2 East_Med 23.42
3 Baltic 18.23
4 West_Med 16.98
5 West_Asian 11.13
6 Red_Sea 2.32
7 Amerindian 1.29
8 East_Asian 0.65
9 Siberian 0.42
10 Northeast_African 0.3
11 South_Asian 0.24
12 Sub-Saharan 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 6.68
2 Greek_Thessaly 6.82
3 Romanian 7.3
4 Tuscan 10.3
5 Italian_Abruzzo 10.87
6 Serbian 10.88
7 North_Italian 12.44
8 West_Sicilian 12.55
9 Central_Greek 12.71
10 East_Sicilian 13.77
11 Ashkenazi 15.14
12 South_Italian 16.39
13 Moldavian 17.76
14 Hungarian 18.38
15 Portuguese 18.97
16 Spanish_Extremadura 19.78
17 French 19.88
18 Spanish_Galicia 20.13
19 Austrian 20.16
20 Croatian 20.27
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
SB5534115,24.95,18.23,16.98,11.13,23.42,2.32,0.24, 0.65,0.42,1.29,0,0.3,0.05
Distance to: SB5534115
4.98343255 Aromanian
5.00070995 Macedonian_South
5.11526148 Albanian_Montenegro
5.31493180 Albanian_Kosovo
5.33670310 Macedonian_Central
5.51584082 Greek_Florina
5.62688191 Bulgarian_Moldova
5.74225565 Albanian_Macedonia
5.89636329 Macedonian_North
6.21122371 Greek_Thessaly
6.39035210 Turkish_Macedonia
6.44897666 Torbesh
6.54452443 Greek_Epirus
6.91269846 Bulgarian_Northeastern
6.92895374 Albanian_North_Albania
6.98981402 Albanian_South_Albania
7.03055474 Macedonian_East
7.08694575 Greek_Thrace
7.10783371 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
7.48802377 Bulgarian_Southeastern
7.53877974 Bulgarian_Southcentral
7.63814768 Greek_CentralMacedonia
7.92219035 Bulgarian_Southwestern
8.11779527 Gagauz
8.18826599 Bulgarian_Northcentral
NdvBal
09-30-2024, 11:42 PM
Macedonian from Bitola and Resen
Kit NZ7764648
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 23.72
2 East_Med 19.94
3 West_Med 19.07
4 West_Asian 17.55
5 Baltic 16.04
6 Red_Sea 1.43
7 Amerindian 1.3
8 East_Asian 0.86
9 Siberian 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 8.45
2 Bulgarian 8.92
3 Romanian 9.68
4 Italian_Abruzzo 10.23
5 Tuscan 11.77
6 Central_Greek 12.07
7 West_Sicilian 13.32
8 Serbian 13.57
9 North_Italian 13.62
10 East_Sicilian 13.82
11 South_Italian 15.83
12 Ashkenazi 17.3
13 Moldavian 19.23
14 Portuguese 20.5
15 Hungarian 20.7
16 Spanish_Extremadura 20.75
17 French 21.42
18 Spanish_Galicia 21.45
19 Spanish_Cataluna 21.81
20 Spanish_Andalucia 21.84
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
NZ7764648,23.72,16.04,19.07,17.55,19.94,1.43,0,0.8 6,0.09,1.3,0,0,0
Distance to: NZ7764648
6.83041726 Bulgarian_Moldova
7.14149144 Albanian_Kosovo
7.58097619 Macedonian_Central
7.94142934 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
8.01364461 Bulgarian_Southeastern
8.08703901 Turkish_Macedonia
8.09445489 Bulgarian_Northeastern
8.19873161 Greek_Epirus
8.30835724 Greek_Thrace
8.31302592 Aromanian
8.34483673 Macedonian_South
8.42823232 Greek_Thessaly
8.66863888 Albanian_Montenegro
8.87735884 Greek_CentralMacedonia
9.01785451 Greek_Florina
9.13102951 Torbesh
9.16841317 Greek_West
9.18001089 Albanian_Central_Albania
9.19143623 Greek_Achaea
9.22555689 Macedonian_North
9.50830164 Albanian_North_Albania
9.51285972 Albanian_Macedonia
9.56248399 Macedonian_East
9.60195813 Gagauz
9.68257714 Greek_Euboea_South
NdvBal
11-15-2024, 02:34 AM
Macedonian from Ohrid
Kit A356451
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.09
2 Baltic 21.51
3 North_Atlantic 20.54
4 West_Med 17.63
5 West_Asian 10.96
6 Red_Sea 2.96
7 Amerindian 1.01
8 Oceanian 0.99
9 East_Asian 0.27
10 South_Asian 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.52
2 Greek_Thessaly 5.9
3 Romanian 6.92
4 Serbian 10.88
5 Central_Greek 12.6
6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.78
7 Tuscan 13.23
8 East_Sicilian 13.8
9 West_Sicilian 14.01
10 Ashkenazi 14.71
11 North_Italian 15.77
12 Moldavian 16.52
13 South_Italian 16.9
14 Hungarian 19.02
15 Croatian 19.37
16 Austrian 21.67
17 Italian_Jewish 21.75
18 Algerian_Jewish 21.9
19 Sephardic_Jewish 22.03
20 Portuguese 22.48
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
A356451,20.54,21.51,17.63,10.96,24.09,2.96,0,0.27, 0,1.01,0.99,0,0
Distance to: A356451
2.76669478 Aromanian
3.24692162 Greek_Florina
3.80732189 Macedonian_South
4.34619374 Greek_Thrace
4.44787590 Gagauz
4.47304147 Macedonian_North
4.77694463 Bulgarian_Southcentral
4.87184770 Bulgarian_Southeastern
4.97272561 Turkish_Macedonia
5.01361147 Albanian_Macedonia
5.17272655 Albanian_Montenegro
5.42476728 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.46763203 Bulgarian_Moldova
5.52879734 Greek_West
5.54497069 Bulgarian_Northcentral
5.71540025 Macedonian_Central
5.72740779 Bulgarian_Northeastern
5.75472849 Greek_Thessaly
5.80348171 Greek_Epirus
5.93495577 Pomak_Bulgaria
6.08979474 Pomak_Greece
6.27808888 Albanian_North_Albania
6.30303895 Torbesh
6.38025862 Albanian_Kosovo
6.46073525 Greek_Achaea
NdvBal
11-15-2024, 02:46 AM
Macedonian from Ohrid
Kit A572241
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.77
2 Baltic 22.54
3 North_Atlantic 20.36
4 West_Med 18.82
5 West_Asian 11.07
6 Red_Sea 2.91
7 Siberian 0.53
8 Oceanian 0.46
9 Amerindian 0.42
10 East_Asian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.26
2 Romanian 5.91
3 Greek_Thessaly 6.49
4 Serbian 9.97
5 Central_Greek 13.43
6 Tuscan 13.66
7 Italian_Abruzzo 13.68
8 East_Sicilian 14.68
9 West_Sicilian 14.85
10 Moldavian 15.36
11 North_Italian 15.65
12 Ashkenazi 15.93
13 South_Italian 17.79
14 Hungarian 18.26
15 Croatian 18.28
16 Austrian 20.93
17 Portuguese 22.28
18 East_German 22.86
19 Algerian_Jewish 22.88
20 Italian_Jewish 22.94
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
A572241,20.36,22.54,18.82,11.07,22.77,2.91,0,0.11, 0.53,0.42,0.46,0,0
Distance to: A572241
2.53063233 Aromanian
2.55323324 Greek_Florina
3.09833826 Gagauz
3.15852814 Bulgarian_Southcentral
3.17029967 Macedonian_North
3.45152140 Macedonian_South
3.77361895 Bulgarian_Southeastern
4.08690592 Bulgarian_Northcentral
4.26920367 Greek_Thrace
4.28868278 Albanian_Montenegro
4.40792468 Pomak_Bulgaria
4.71214389 Bulgarian_Northeastern
4.90178539 Bulgarian_Moldova
4.92348454 Macedonian_Central
5.19710496 Pomak_Greece
5.22442341 Bulgarian_Southwestern
5.22687287 Albanian_Macedonia
5.33689048 Romanian_Muntenia
5.61613746 Romanian_Dobruja
5.64008865 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.65375097 Turkish_Macedonia
5.75428536 Bulgarian_Northwestern
5.81884009 Greek_West
5.93431546 Albanian_North_Albania
6.14211690 Albanian_Kosovo
JohnnyP
12-29-2024, 08:37 PM
Macedonian from Ohrid
Kit A572241
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.77
2 Baltic 22.54
3 North_Atlantic 20.36
4 West_Med 18.82
5 West_Asian 11.07
6 Red_Sea 2.91
7 Siberian 0.53
8 Oceanian 0.46
9 Amerindian 0.42
10 East_Asian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.26
2 Romanian 5.91
3 Greek_Thessaly 6.49
4 Serbian 9.97
5 Central_Greek 13.43
6 Tuscan 13.66
7 Italian_Abruzzo 13.68
8 East_Sicilian 14.68
9 West_Sicilian 14.85
10 Moldavian 15.36
11 North_Italian 15.65
12 Ashkenazi 15.93
13 South_Italian 17.79
14 Hungarian 18.26
15 Croatian 18.28
16 Austrian 20.93
17 Portuguese 22.28
18 East_German 22.86
19 Algerian_Jewish 22.88
20 Italian_Jewish 22.94
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
A572241,20.36,22.54,18.82,11.07,22.77,2.91,0,0.11, 0.53,0.42,0.46,0,0
Distance to: A572241
2.53063233 Aromanian
2.55323324 Greek_Florina
3.09833826 Gagauz
3.15852814 Bulgarian_Southcentral
3.17029967 Macedonian_North
3.45152140 Macedonian_South
3.77361895 Bulgarian_Southeastern
4.08690592 Bulgarian_Northcentral
4.26920367 Greek_Thrace
4.28868278 Albanian_Montenegro
4.40792468 Pomak_Bulgaria
4.71214389 Bulgarian_Northeastern
4.90178539 Bulgarian_Moldova
4.92348454 Macedonian_Central
5.19710496 Pomak_Greece
5.22442341 Bulgarian_Southwestern
5.22687287 Albanian_Macedonia
5.33689048 Romanian_Muntenia
5.61613746 Romanian_Dobruja
5.64008865 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.65375097 Turkish_Macedonia
5.75428536 Bulgarian_Northwestern
5.81884009 Greek_West
5.93431546 Albanian_North_Albania
6.14211690 Albanian_Kosovo
Thanks for sharing Macedonian results , please share more if you have ! I want them on record , I have more than 500 gedmatch kits of Macedonians.
JohnnyP
12-29-2024, 08:52 PM
I don't think Bulgarians have profiles like this but however of all other south slavs you would be closest to them.
Target: MarijaK_scaled
Distance: 2.6500% / 0.02649991
66.2 Old_Balkan
10.6 East_Med
10.4 Old_Slavs
8.0 Volga_Basin
4.8 Early_Germanic
Target: Macedonian_Jegunovce_scaled
Distance: 2.5330% / 0.02532968
70.8 Old_Balkan
22.0 Old_Slavs
7.2 Keltic_Central_Euro
Target: K_scaled
Distance: 3.1194% / 0.03119361
60.8 Old_Balkan
19.4 Old_Slavs
8.8 Volga_Basin
7.2 East_Med
3.8 Early_Germanic
You can't change his perspective or what he was taught in school, even if you present him with thousands of factual DNA proofs.
In fact all in Balkans are close, but Macedonians are closest to Vlachs/Ghegs/North Greece in average, Bulgarians are in top5 for sure.
it's all variety of PaleoBalkanic and Slavic DNA , depend on percentage and region , some are more PaleoBalkanic less Slavic , some more Slavic less PaleoBalkanic with plus some percentage of something else.
This region has been shaped by countless wars and periods of enslavement, making it remarkable that Balkan populations still carry over 50% of Paleo-Balkan ancestry.
NdvBal
02-21-2025, 05:36 PM
Macedonian
Kit XR5016809
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30
2 East_Med 21.48
3 North_Atlantic 19.88
4 West_Med 17.16
5 West_Asian 6.49
6 Red_Sea 3.07
7 South_Asian 0.76
8 Siberian 0.69
9 Amerindian 0.46
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 7.48
2 Romanian 8.09
3 Serbian 8.87
4 Moldavian 11.41
5 Croatian 13.62
6 Greek_Thessaly 13.81
7 Hungarian 15.24
8 Austrian 19.03
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.2
10 Tuscan 20.07
11 Ukrainian 20.09
12 South_Polish 20.2
13 East_German 20.21
14 North_Italian 20.61
15 Central_Greek 20.79
16 Italian_Abruzzo 21.3
17 East_Sicilian 21.71
18 Ashkenazi 21.73
19 West_Sicilian 21.88
20 Southwest_Russian 22.4
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
XR5016809,19.88,30,17.16,6.49,21.48,3.07,0.76,0,0. 69,0.46,0,0,0
Distance to: XR5016809
5.07211001 Moldovan_South
6.30842294 Bulgarian_Northwestern
6.97231669 Serb_EastSerbia
7.01754943 Serb_SouthSerbia
7.06916544 Serb_KosovoMetohija
7.41960242 Montenegro_SouthEast
7.48489145 Pomak_Bulgaria
7.65469790 Serb_CentralSerbia
7.69715532 Romanian_Dobruja
7.75584941 Vlach_Serbia
7.79151462 Romanian_Moldavia_South
7.90913396 Serb_Herzegovina
7.99178954 Pomak_Greece
8.01295202 Bosniak_Southeast
8.08684116 Bulgarian_Northcentral
8.12107136 Serb_Lika
8.14743518 Romanian_Transylvania
8.17045286 Serb_Vojvodina
8.20591250 Romanian_Muntenia
8.26390949 Romanian_Banat
8.34013189 Romanian_Oltenia
8.41517082 Bulgarian_Southcentral
8.49074791 Romanian_Crişana
8.56080020 Romanian_Moldavia_Central
8.65814645 Serb_CentralCroatia
ScandinavianCelt
02-21-2025, 10:24 PM
Macedonian
Kit XR5016809
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30
2 East_Med 21.48
3 North_Atlantic 19.88
4 West_Med 17.16
5 West_Asian 6.49
6 Red_Sea 3.07
7 South_Asian 0.76
8 Siberian 0.69
9 Amerindian 0.46
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 7.48
2 Romanian 8.09
3 Serbian 8.87
4 Moldavian 11.41
5 Croatian 13.62
6 Greek_Thessaly 13.81
7 Hungarian 15.24
8 Austrian 19.03
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.2
10 Tuscan 20.07
11 Ukrainian 20.09
12 South_Polish 20.2
13 East_German 20.21
14 North_Italian 20.61
15 Central_Greek 20.79
16 Italian_Abruzzo 21.3
17 East_Sicilian 21.71
18 Ashkenazi 21.73
19 West_Sicilian 21.88
20 Southwest_Russian 22.4
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
XR5016809,19.88,30,17.16,6.49,21.48,3.07,0.76,0,0. 69,0.46,0,0,0
Distance to: XR5016809
5.07211001 Moldovan_South
6.30842294 Bulgarian_Northwestern
6.97231669 Serb_EastSerbia
7.01754943 Serb_SouthSerbia
7.06916544 Serb_KosovoMetohija
7.41960242 Montenegro_SouthEast
7.48489145 Pomak_Bulgaria
7.65469790 Serb_CentralSerbia
7.69715532 Romanian_Dobruja
7.75584941 Vlach_Serbia
7.79151462 Romanian_Moldavia_South
7.90913396 Serb_Herzegovina
7.99178954 Pomak_Greece
8.01295202 Bosniak_Southeast
8.08684116 Bulgarian_Northcentral
8.12107136 Serb_Lika
8.14743518 Romanian_Transylvania
8.17045286 Serb_Vojvodina
8.20591250 Romanian_Muntenia
8.26390949 Romanian_Banat
8.34013189 Romanian_Oltenia
8.41517082 Bulgarian_Southcentral
8.49074791 Romanian_Crişana
8.56080020 Romanian_Moldavia_Central
8.65814645 Serb_CentralCroatia
Shockingly, I match this kit:
Largest segment = 6.1 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 95.3cM (2.655 Pct)
26 shared segments found for this comparison.
Note: I ran some calcs on all 26 of the shared segments, and since they are half-match (one parent/side only) I assume the results would not be coming from any northern results the calcs show, so what it looks like I share with this person is Mordovian & Basque. There is a chunk of Balochi and several Indian pieces, as well as some Caucasus, and even far NE Asian (Koryak & Chukchi) and SE Asian (Malay). The northern side is Orcadian and British.
This is HIS GPS plot, not the shared segment plot with me:
https://i.postimg.cc/QN94WX7c/macedonian-kit-gps.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Hjm4q1BL)
And HIS K36 pie:
https://i.postimg.cc/5ydwzMcm/macedonian-kit.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
My K36 pie (merged data) for comparison:
https://i.postimg.cc/43rgpWW5/brad-k36-mrg-pie.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
NdvBal
02-23-2025, 11:22 AM
A person with ancestry from Greek Macedonia (Serres and Kilkis), he seems to identify as Bulgarian but i don't wanna open a separate thread just for this (the kit has gedcom)
Kit KE6080071
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.36
2 North_Atlantic 20.68
3 East_Med 19.45
4 West_Med 15.31
5 West_Asian 13.17
6 Red_Sea 2.16
7 Siberian 1.52
8 South_Asian 0.9
9 East_Asian 0.46
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.82
2 Romanian 4.56
3 Serbian 7.39
4 Moldavian 11.02
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.68
6 Croatian 14.26
7 Hungarian 14.82
8 Italian_Abruzzo 18.07
9 Central_Greek 18.08
10 Austrian 18.33
11 Tuscan 18.44
12 North_Italian 19.36
13 East_Sicilian 19.44
14 West_Sicilian 19.97
15 East_German 19.99
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 20.16
17 Ashkenazi 20.61
18 South_Polish 21.1
19 Ukrainian 21.41
20 South_Italian 22.58
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
KE6080071,20.68,26.36,15.31,13.17,19.45,2.16,0.9,0 .46,1.52,0,0,0,0
Distance to: KE6080071
3.09510904 Pomak_Greece
3.13697306 Pomak_Bulgaria
3.30442128 Bulgarian_Northcentral
4.09724298 Romanian_Dobruja
4.17952150 Romanian_Muntenia
4.20449759 Bulgarian_Northwestern
4.30916465 Bulgarian_Southcentral
4.57901736 Bulgarian_Southwestern
4.61715280 Moldovan_South
4.93650686 Bulgarian_Northeastern
4.99804962 Gagauz
5.20856986 Romanian_Banat
5.23029636 Romanian_Oltenia
5.63814686 Romanian_Moldavia_South
5.83932359 Romanian_Transylvania
5.88295844 Bulgarian_Southeastern
6.06373647 Montenegro_SouthEast
6.15715844 Serb_SouthSerbia
6.28482299 Vlach_Serbia
6.48177445 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
6.56946725 Serb_KosovoMetohija
6.68387612 Macedonian_North
6.84368322 Romanian_Crişana
6.95772951 Turkish_Deliorman
7.11106884 Serb_Vojvodina
NdvBal
02-23-2025, 11:25 AM
Thanks for sharing Macedonian results , please share more if you have ! I want them on record , I have more than 500 gedmatch kits of Macedonians.
You're welcome my friend.
I will share more kits soon, i'd really appreciate it if you could share more of the kits you have.
NdvBal
02-23-2025, 11:35 AM
Macedonian ?
Kit QX6938143
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.01
2 North_Atlantic 23.49
3 East_Med 19.71
4 West_Med 17.91
5 West_Asian 10.34
6 East_Asian 1.39
7 South_Asian 0.74
8 Amerindian 0.38
9 Oceanian 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.44
2 Bulgarian 3.49
3 Serbian 5.9
4 Moldavian 11.01
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.6
6 Hungarian 13.52
7 Croatian 13.58
8 Austrian 16.42
9 North_Italian 16.53
10 Tuscan 16.66
11 Italian_Abruzzo 18.04
12 East_German 18.12
13 Central_Greek 18.59
14 West_Sicilian 19.34
15 East_Sicilian 19.91
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 20.08
17 West_German 20.3
18 South_Polish 20.58
19 French 20.69
20 Ukrainian 21.04
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
QX6938143,23.49,26.01,17.91,10.34,19.71,0,0.74,1.3 9,0,0.38,0,0,0
Distance to: QX6938143
2.94771098 Romanian_Oltenia
3.05337518 Serb_KosovoMetohija
3.09651417 Bulgarian_Northwestern
3.26383210 Romanian_Dobruja
3.28740019 Romanian_Muntenia
3.38053250 Romanian_Banat
3.41079170 Montenegro_SouthEast
3.46493867 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
3.66092884 Bulgarian_Southwestern
3.70316081 Vlach_Serbia
3.70533399 Romanian_Transylvania
4.01827077 Romanian_Moldavia_South
4.19833300 Bulgarian_Northcentral
4.46383243 Romanian_Crişana
4.50083326 Bulgarian_Southcentral
4.68165569 Moldovan_South
4.69079951 Serb_SouthSerbia
4.72048726 Serb_Herzegovina
4.84046485 Serb_Vojvodina
4.84757671 Macedonian_North
5.01386079 Pomak_Bulgaria
5.29261750 Montenegro_Old_Herzegovina
5.74556351 Bulgarian_Northeastern
5.79448013 Serb_EastSerbia
5.93875408 Serb_Dalmatia
NdvBal
02-24-2025, 11:58 AM
A Macedonian girl with ancestry from Struga
Kit YW3147178
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 23.92
2 East_Med 21.48
3 West_Med 19.68
4 Baltic 16.02
5 West_Asian 13.73
6 Red_Sea 2.96
7 Siberian 1.4
8 East_Asian 0.38
9 Oceanian 0.28
10 Amerindian 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 6
2 Bulgarian 7.92
3 Romanian 8.75
4 Italian_Abruzzo 8.78
5 Tuscan 8.84
6 Central_Greek 10.82
7 West_Sicilian 10.99
8 North_Italian 11.3
9 East_Sicilian 12.18
10 Serbian 12.64
11 South_Italian 14.59
12 Ashkenazi 15.15
13 Portuguese 18.6
14 Spanish_Extremadura 18.98
15 Moldavian 19.08
16 Spanish_Galicia 19.61
17 Spanish_Murcia 20.11
18 Spanish_Andalucia 20.22
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.28
20 Hungarian 20.31
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
YW3147178,23.92,16.02,19.68,13.73,21.48,2.96,0,0.3 8,1.4,0.15,0.28,0,0
Distance to: YW3147178
3.74522362 Albanian_Kosovo
4.90489551 Macedonian_Central
4.95984879 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
5.20598694 Greek_Thessaly
5.27712043 Bulgarian_Moldova
5.37768538 Macedonian_South
5.68510334 Aromanian
5.71309898 Torbesh
5.86602932 Albanian_Macedonia
5.90171162 Greek_Epirus
5.94712536 Albanian_Montenegro
6.14431445 Albanian_North_Albania
6.30787603 Greek_Florina
6.33678941 Albanian_South_Albania
6.34901567 Turkish_Macedonia
6.41633852 Albanian_Central_Albania
6.64038403 Greek_CentralMacedonia
6.71701571 Greek_Euboea_South
7.10918420 Macedonian_East
7.15503319 Macedonian_North
7.19051459 Bulgarian_Southeastern
7.26889263 Greek_Thrace
7.32045081 Greek_West
7.33955039 Bulgarian_Northeastern
7.37312010 Greek_Achaea
NdvBal
02-24-2025, 12:00 PM
A Maceodnian guy with ancestry from Gevgelija, i do not have his kit number unfortunately.
Macedonian_Gevgelija,18.77,18.9,18.77,15.33,24.96, 2.28,0,0,0,0,1,0,0
NdvBal
02-27-2025, 11:52 AM
A Macedonian Muslim from Kičevo
Kit UP2982319
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.47
2 West_Med 22.7
3 North_Atlantic 21.27
4 Baltic 18.48
5 West_Asian 7.41
6 Red_Sea 4.42
7 Siberian 0.52
8 Amerindian 0.37
9 East_Asian 0.21
10 Sub-Saharan 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.31
2 Bulgarian 8.83
3 Tuscan 9.26
4 Romanian 10.37
5 West_Sicilian 10.86
6 Italian_Abruzzo 11.46
7 Central_Greek 11.54
8 North_Italian 11.97
9 East_Sicilian 12.14
10 Ashkenazi 13.5
11 Serbian 13.75
12 South_Italian 14.94
13 Portuguese 19.32
14 Algerian_Jewish 19.36
15 Italian_Jewish 19.54
16 Spanish_Extremadura 19.81
17 Moldavian 19.82
18 Sephardic_Jewish 20.12
19 Spanish_Galicia 20.15
20 Spanish_Murcia 20.98
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
UP2982319,21.27,18.48,22.7,7.41,24.47,4.42,0,0.21, 0.52,0.37,0,0,0.16
Distance to: UP2982319
3.53058069 Albanian_Macedonia
3.72696928 Albanian_North_Albania
3.99529724 Torbesh
5.05559096 Albanian_South_Albania
5.40314723 Greek_Thessaly
5.48395842 Macedonian_South
5.81336391 Albanian_Kosovo
5.86429876 Greek_Florina
5.90892545 Greek_Arcadia
6.45472695 Aromanian
6.49693774 Greek_CentralMacedonia
6.50016923 Greek_Euboea_South
6.62846136 Macedonian_Central
6.74302603 Albanian_Montenegro
7.03570892 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
7.06660456 Albanian_Central_Albania
7.34899313 Greek_Peloponnese
7.40650390 Greek_West
7.48040106 Greek_Laconia
7.61711888 Greek_Epirus
7.81758275 Macedonian_North
7.90869142 Greek_Achaea
7.92426022 Greek_Messenia
8.05645083 Macedonian_East
9.02053768 Greek_Thrace
NdvBal
02-27-2025, 11:57 AM
A man from Florina, he identifies as Greek, but Florina was originally a Macedonian speaking town, so i believe it's okay to post his result here
Kit T545626
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.04
2 North_Atlantic 20.74
3 East_Med 20.4
4 West_Med 19.25
5 West_Asian 12.28
6 Red_Sea 2.72
7 East_Asian 1.7
8 South_Asian 0.54
9 Siberian 0.29
10 Amerindian 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 2.9
2 Romanian 5.14
3 Greek_Thessaly 7.25
4 Serbian 9.3
5 Tuscan 13.74
6 Italian_Abruzzo 13.85
7 Central_Greek 13.94
8 Moldavian 14.57
9 North_Italian 15.11
10 West_Sicilian 15.29
11 East_Sicilian 15.3
12 Ashkenazi 17.22
13 Hungarian 17.58
14 Croatian 17.63
15 South_Italian 18.32
16 Austrian 20.02
17 Portuguese 21.59
18 East_German 21.96
19 French 22.18
20 Spanish_Galicia 22.2
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
T545626,20.74,22.04,19.25,12.28,20.4,2.72,0.54,1.7 ,0.29,0,0,0,0
Distance to: T545626
2.46789384 Bulgarian_Southeastern
2.69892571 Bulgarian_Southcentral
2.76050720 Gagauz
2.93947274 Macedonian_North
3.11213753 Bulgarian_Northeastern
3.23929005 Aromanian
3.44017441 Bulgarian_Moldova
3.58738066 Bulgarian_Northcentral
3.64017857 Greek_Florina
3.97518553 Albanian_Montenegro
4.01224376 Macedonian_South
4.02585395 Bulgarian_Southwestern
4.08431145 Macedonian_Central
4.16284758 Pomak_Bulgaria
4.41398913 Romanian_Muntenia
4.66358231 Greek_Thrace
4.71016985 Romanian_Dobruja
5.09092330 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
5.22209728 Romanian_Oltenia
5.49786322 Bulgarian_Northwestern
5.66445937 Macedonian_East
5.74827800 Albanian_Kosovo
5.75185188 Pomak_Greece
5.89133262 Montenegro_SouthEast
5.98432954 Turkish_Macedonia
NdvBal
02-27-2025, 12:02 PM
Macedonian from Ohrid
Kit SL1804952
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.89
2 East_Med 22.46
3 West_Med 20.47
4 North_Atlantic 19.73
5 West_Asian 11.23
6 South_Asian 1.73
7 East_Asian 1.04
8 Sub-Saharan 0.45
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.54
2 Romanian 7
3 Greek_Thessaly 7.47
4 Serbian 10.9
5 Central_Greek 14.23
6 Tuscan 14.43
7 Italian_Abruzzo 14.72
8 West_Sicilian 15.59
9 East_Sicilian 15.6
10 Moldavian 15.6
11 North_Italian 15.91
12 Ashkenazi 16.98
13 South_Italian 18.37
14 Croatian 18.53
15 Hungarian 18.85
16 Austrian 21.45
17 Portuguese 22.72
18 East_German 23.2
19 Spanish_Galicia 23.4
20 Spanish_Extremadura 23.49
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
SL1804952,19.73,22.89,20.47,11.23,22.46,0,1.73,1.0 4,0,0,0,0,0.45
Distance to: SL1804952
3.91799694 Greek_Florina
4.22478402 Greek_Thrace
4.36104345 Macedonian_North
4.48693659 Gagauz
4.71440346 Bulgarian_Southcentral
4.77349976 Macedonian_South
4.93268689 Aromanian
5.29742390 Bulgarian_Southeastern
5.46568385 Albanian_Montenegro
5.46936011 Bulgarian_Northcentral
5.54135363 Macedonian_Central
5.66371786 Pomak_Bulgaria
6.19262465 Bulgarian_Northeastern
6.24635093 Greek_CentralMacedonia
6.32925746 Bulgarian_Southwestern
6.33041863 Albanian_North_Albania
6.34819659 Bulgarian_Moldova
6.38863835 Albanian_Macedonia
6.40341315 Romanian_Muntenia
6.51024577 Romanian_Dobruja
6.51183538 Greek_West
6.67666084 Pomak_Greece
6.74768849 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
6.74939257 Albanian_Kosovo
6.75195527 Torbesh
NdvBal
02-27-2025, 12:06 PM
A Macedonian woman from the Prespa area
Kit BR4861473
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Med 23.52
2 Baltic 22.13
3 East_Med 20.05
4 North_Atlantic 18.67
5 West_Asian 13.25
6 Red_Sea 1.33
7 Siberian 0.93
8 Amerindian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 6.21
2 Greek_Thessaly 7.99
3 Romanian 8.35
4 Serbian 12.25
5 Central_Greek 13.9
6 Tuscan 14.42
7 Italian_Abruzzo 14.65
8 East_Sicilian 15.46
9 West_Sicilian 15.67
10 North_Italian 15.68
11 Moldavian 16.33
12 Ashkenazi 18.05
13 South_Italian 18.1
14 Croatian 19.46
15 Hungarian 20.13
16 Austrian 22.37
17 Portuguese 22.64
18 Spanish_Extremadura 23.12
19 Spanish_Galicia 23.17
20 Algerian_Jewish 23.76
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
BR4861473,18.67,22.13,23.52,13.25,20.05,1.33,0,0,0 .93,0.11,0,0,0
Distance to: BR4861473
5.65059289 Bulgarian_Southeastern
5.77114373 Gagauz
5.93846782 Greek_Florina
6.13598403 Macedonian_Central
6.22313426 Macedonian_South
6.27722072 Greek_Thrace
6.35930814 Macedonian_North
6.54867162 Aromanian
6.58576495 Bulgarian_Southcentral
6.60400636 Albanian_North_Albania
6.70939640 Greek_CentralMacedonia
6.76988922 Albanian_Montenegro
6.96664195 Greek_West
7.01384345 Albanian_Kosovo
7.17214752 Bulgarian_Northeastern
7.23427951 Torbesh
7.23840452 Bulgarian_Moldova
7.24259622 Pomak_Bulgaria
7.29516278 Bulgarian_Northcentral
7.57342723 Albanian_Macedonia
7.72952780 Bulgarian_Southwestern
7.87013342 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
7.90248062 Macedonian_East
7.99873115 Montenegro_SouthEast
8.09877769 Romanian_Muntenia
NdvBal
02-27-2025, 12:09 PM
Thanks for sharing Macedonian results , please share more if you have ! I want them on record , I have more than 500 gedmatch kits of Macedonians.
Hey Johnny, do you happen to have any Macedonian results from Eastern Macedonia (Berovo/Kochani/Kratovo/Strumica) and the Ptolemaida/Kajlar region of modern day Greece?
Thanks!
NdvBal
03-04-2025, 02:14 AM
A man with ancestry from Bogdanci
Kit HX5038120
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 21.19
2 East_Med 20.65
3 Baltic 19.31
4 West_Med 17.17
5 West_Asian 15.1
6 Red_Sea 3.91
7 Oceanian 0.95
8 East_Asian 0.84
9 Siberian 0.59
10 Amerindian 0.29
11 Northeast_African 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.5
2 Greek_Thessaly 6.87
3 Romanian 6.99
4 Serbian 11.11
5 Italian_Abruzzo 11.56
6 Central_Greek 12.17
7 Tuscan 13.13
8 East_Sicilian 13.65
9 West_Sicilian 14.04
10 North_Italian 15.46
11 Ashkenazi 16.11
12 Moldavian 16.6
13 South_Italian 16.62
14 Hungarian 19.06
15 Croatian 19.77
16 Austrian 21.25
17 Portuguese 22.04
18 Sephardic_Jewish 22.14
19 Italian_Jewish 22.52
20 French 22.55
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
HX5038120,21.19,19.31,17.17,15.1,20.65,3.91,0,0.84 ,0.59,0.29,0.95,0,0
Distance to: HX5038120
3.20234289 Bulgarian_Moldova
3.50458271 Bulgarian_Southeastern
4.17097111 Bulgarian_Northeastern
4.30664603 Turkish_Macedonia
4.53235038 Aromanian
4.96886305 Gagauz
5.35471755 Greek_Thrace
5.72130230 Macedonian_South
5.95131918 Macedonian_Central
5.96252463 Greek_Florina
5.96814879 Bulgarian_Southcentral
6.03931287 Turkish_Deliorman
6.08604141 Macedonian_North
6.34051260 Albanian_Montenegro
6.42491245 Albanian_Kosovo
6.43071536 Bulgarian_Northcentral
6.57060880 Greek_CentralMacedonia
6.62057399 Greek_West
6.66447297 Greek_Epirus
6.67347735 Greek_Thessaly
6.80097787 Bulgarian_Southwestern
7.05123393 Greek_Achaea
7.16309291 Pomak_Bulgaria
7.30159572 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
7.32348961 Romanian_Muntenia
NdvBal
03-04-2025, 02:22 AM
A man from Veles, his ancestors were from Greek Macedonia
+ MyHeritage results: https://youtube.com/shorts/1-gIsokQ5WM?si=WDpd8XkqkvZ06qiH
Kit BW6256716
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.97
2 North_Atlantic 20.85
3 West_Med 19.42
4 Baltic 16.82
5 West_Asian 13.07
6 Red_Sea 3.05
7 Oceanian 1.3
8 South_Asian 0.82
9 Siberian 0.8
10 Amerindian 0.55
11 East_Asian 0.34
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 3.43
2 Bulgarian 7.31
3 Italian_Abruzzo 8.78
4 Romanian 9.11
5 Central_Greek 9.28
6 Tuscan 10.04
7 West_Sicilian 10.5
8 East_Sicilian 10.69
9 Ashkenazi 13.21
10 Serbian 13.35
11 North_Italian 13.38
12 South_Italian 13.49
13 Moldavian 19.27
14 Sephardic_Jewish 19.31
15 Italian_Jewish 19.36
16 Algerian_Jewish 19.52
17 Portuguese 20.87
18 Spanish_Extremadura 21.3
19 Hungarian 21.41
20 Spanish_Galicia 21.87
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
BW6256716,20.85,16.82,19.42,13.07,22.97,3.05,0.82, 0.34,0.8,0.55,1.3,0,0
Distance to: BW6256716
2.60802607 Greek_Thessaly
3.46646794 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
3.47338452 Greek_CentralMacedonia
3.47659316 Greek_Epirus
3.85473735 Albanian_Kosovo
3.99488423 Aromanian
4.01853207 Macedonian_South
4.04095286 Turkish_Macedonia
4.12625738 Albanian_Macedonia
4.15521359 Greek_Achaea
4.21308675 Greek_West
4.42370885 Torbesh
4.75003158 Greek_Florina
4.86224228 Albanian_South_Albania
4.86949689 Greek_Euboea_South
4.89992857 Albanian_North_Albania
4.97542963 Bulgarian_Moldova
5.03719168 Greek_Thrace
5.05445348 Macedonian_Central
5.29186168 Greek_Laconia
5.41648410 Greek_Messenia
5.47626698 Greek_Peloponnese
5.47976277 Greek_Arcadia
5.53408529 Albanian_Central_Albania
5.86607194 Bulgarian_Southeastern
NdvBal
03-04-2025, 02:28 AM
A woman from Vevi/Banitsa, a village in the Florina region of Greece
Kit M517367
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 23.34
2 East_Med 20.73
3 West_Med 20.68
4 Baltic 19.96
5 West_Asian 12.16
6 Red_Sea 1.73
7 Oceanian 1.05
8 Siberian 0.27
9 Amerindian 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.8
2 Romanian 5.97
3 Greek_Thessaly 6.82
4 Serbian 9.95
5 Tuscan 11.05
6 North_Italian 12.16
7 Italian_Abruzzo 12.25
8 Central_Greek 13.25
9 West_Sicilian 13.68
10 East_Sicilian 14.66
11 Moldavian 16.05
12 Ashkenazi 17.08
13 South_Italian 17.31
14 Hungarian 17.94
15 Croatian 18.84
16 Portuguese 18.96
17 Austrian 19.65
18 Spanish_Extremadura 19.66
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.82
20 French 20.13
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
M517367,23.34,19.96,20.68,12.16,20.73,1.73,0,0,0.2 7,0.07,1.05,0,0
Distance to: M517367
1.32321578 Macedonian_Central
2.08892317 Albanian_Montenegro
2.88863289 Albanian_Kosovo
2.92222518 Macedonian_South
3.17064662 Macedonian_North
3.47027376 Greek_Florina
3.69982432 Aromanian
3.92838389 Macedonian_East
3.95763818 Bulgarian_Moldova
4.66702261 Albanian_North_Albania
4.74863138 Bulgarian_Northeastern
4.87626907 Albanian_Macedonia
4.89671318 Bulgarian_Southeastern
4.95184814 Torbesh
5.28765544 Bulgarian_Southcentral
5.39405228 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
5.47966240 Greek_Thrace
5.59676692 Bulgarian_Southwestern
5.83150924 Gagauz
6.00214961 Greek_Thessaly
6.15926944 Bulgarian_Northcentral
6.23870179 Romanian_Muntenia
6.37341353 Greek_CentralMacedonia
6.49082429 Romanian_Oltenia
6.69159921 Greek_Epirus
NdvBal
03-04-2025, 02:32 AM
Another woman from Vevi/Banitsa
Kit A579573
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.52
2 North_Atlantic 22.82
3 West_Med 18.37
4 Baltic 18.2
5 West_Asian 13.76
6 Red_Sea 1.53
7 Siberian 1.28
8 East_Asian 0.49
9 Oceanian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.55
2 Bulgarian 6.36
3 Romanian 7.87
4 Italian_Abruzzo 9.95
5 Tuscan 10.88
6 Central_Greek 11.04
7 Serbian 12.05
8 West_Sicilian 12.11
9 East_Sicilian 12.56
10 North_Italian 13.55
11 Ashkenazi 14.58
12 South_Italian 15.1
13 Moldavian 18.32
14 Hungarian 19.94
15 Sephardic_Jewish 20.81
16 Portuguese 20.82
17 Italian_Jewish 20.83
18 Croatian 21.21
19 Algerian_Jewish 21.27
20 Spanish_Extremadura 21.42
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
A579573,22.82,18.2,18.37,13.76,23.52,1.53,0,0.49,1 .28,0,0,0,0
Distance to: A579573
3.73995989 Greek_Epirus
3.95409914 Aromanian
4.04536772 Macedonian_South
4.08549875 Turkish_Macedonia
4.28116806 Albanian_Kosovo
4.42601401 Greek_Florina
4.46749370 Greek_Thrace
4.64454519 Greek_Thessaly
4.64761229 Bulgarian_Moldova
4.77203311 Macedonian_Central
5.15608379 Albanian_Macedonia
5.22340885 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.30690117 Albanian_Montenegro
5.48167858 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
5.50339895 Torbesh
5.51234070 Greek_West
5.70329729 Macedonian_North
5.74423189 Bulgarian_Southeastern
5.93844256 Albanian_North_Albania
5.95514903 Greek_Achaea
6.09829484 Albanian_South_Albania
6.12458162 Bulgarian_Northeastern
6.55436496 Gagauz
7.01737843 Greek_Euboea_South
7.02704063 Bulgarian_Southcentral
NdvBal
03-04-2025, 07:47 AM
A man from Florina
Kit WD7887416
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.96
2 West_Med 22.14
3 North_Atlantic 19.68
4 East_Med 18.62
5 West_Asian 10.7
6 Red_Sea 0.67
7 East_Asian 0.5
8 Oceanian 0.39
9 South_Asian 0.34
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.41
2 Romanian 6.78
3 Serbian 9.24
4 Greek_Thessaly 11.65
5 Moldavian 12.11
6 Croatian 14.98
7 Hungarian 16.53
8 Tuscan 17.62
9 North_Italian 17.65
10 Central_Greek 18.4
11 Italian_Abruzzo 18.9
12 Austrian 19.32
13 West_Sicilian 19.72
14 East_Sicilian 19.77
15 East_German 20.69
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.13
17 Ashkenazi 21.49
18 Ukrainian 22.14
19 South_Polish 22.25
20 South_Italian 22.67
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
WD7887416,19.68,26.96,22.14,10.7,18.62,0.67,0.34,0 .5,0,0,0.39,0,0
Distance to: WD7887416
4.47349975 Montenegro_SouthEast
4.88809779 Vlach_Serbia
5.55880383 Bulgarian_Northwestern
5.69244236 Pomak_Bulgaria
5.82495494 Romanian_Dobruja
6.05553466 Romanian_Oltenia
6.06339014 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
6.10552209 Bulgarian_Southcentral
6.18717221 Bulgarian_Northcentral
6.28783747 Romanian_Muntenia
6.39788246 Bulgarian_Southwestern
6.76790219 Romanian_Banat
6.79036818 Macedonian_North
6.80022058 Serb_KosovoMetohija
6.94298207 Gagauz
7.07413599 Romanian_Transylvania
7.14939158 Moldovan_South
7.29692401 Serb_SouthSerbia
7.40001351 Romanian_Moldavia_South
7.61007227 Serb_Vojvodina
7.68771748 Pomak_Greece
7.70287609 Bulgarian_Southeastern
7.81955242 Bulgarian_Northeastern
7.92611506 Serb_EastSerbia
8.02117822 Serb_Herzegovina
NdvBal
03-04-2025, 07:50 AM
A man from Bitola
Kit JE5815950
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.55
2 Baltic 20.24
3 North_Atlantic 18.84
4 West_Med 17.73
5 West_Asian 13.92
6 Red_Sea 3.18
7 Amerindian 0.82
8 South_Asian 0.63
9 Siberian 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.85
2 Bulgarian 6.13
3 Romanian 8.68
4 Central_Greek 10.61
5 Italian_Abruzzo 11.41
6 East_Sicilian 12.07
7 Serbian 13.01
8 West_Sicilian 13.26
9 Ashkenazi 13.55
10 Tuscan 13.64
11 South_Italian 15.12
12 North_Italian 16.92
13 Moldavian 18.23
14 Sephardic_Jewish 20.54
15 Italian_Jewish 20.57
16 Algerian_Jewish 20.58
17 Hungarian 21.14
18 Croatian 21.32
19 Austrian 23.77
20 Tunisian_Jewish 23.87
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
JE5815950,18.84,20.24,17.73,13.92,24.55,3.18,0.63, 0,0.09,0.82,0,0,0
Distance to: JE5815950
3.32977477 Turkish_Macedonia
3.57155428 Greek_Thrace
3.57684218 Greek_West
3.98162027 Greek_CentralMacedonia
4.09333605 Aromanian
4.22422774 Greek_Achaea
4.38328644 Greek_Epirus
4.71801865 Bulgarian_Southeastern
4.76058820 Gagauz
4.90659760 Greek_Florina
5.21504554 Macedonian_South
5.22108226 Greek_Thessaly
5.75709996 Bulgarian_Moldova
6.17171775 Albanian_Macedonia
6.41534099 Greek_Peloponnese
6.54016819 Bulgarian_Southcentral
6.56021341 Bulgarian_Northeastern
6.62898936 Greek_Laconia
6.64238662 Macedonian_North
6.64759355 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
6.77583943 Greek_Messenia
6.80892062 Pomak_Greece
7.03645507 Torbesh
7.06058779 Albanian_Kosovo
7.08367136 Macedonian_Central
Micco
03-09-2025, 03:08 PM
Hey, I'm from Kocansko Pole. Here's my Kit number: FU1408786.
NdvBal
03-11-2025, 12:15 PM
Hey, I'm from Kocansko Pole. Here's my Kit number: FU1408786.
Hello friend and welcome to the forum.
Thank you for sharing your results with us!
NdvBal
03-11-2025, 12:18 PM
Hey, I'm from Kocansko Pole. Here's my Kit number: FU1408786.
Macedonian from Kochani
Kit FU1408786
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.74
2 North_Atlantic 24.46
3 West_Med 18.49
4 East_Med 16.86
5 West_Asian 8.66
6 Red_Sea 4.47
7 Siberian 1.28
8 Oceanian 0.99
9 Northeast_African 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.82
2 Serbian 4.74
3 Bulgarian 5.42
4 Moldavian 10.6
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.08
6 Hungarian 12.59
7 Croatian 13.1
8 Austrian 14.89
9 North_Italian 14.96
10 Tuscan 15.61
11 East_German 16.74
12 Italian_Abruzzo 17.98
13 French 18.33
14 West_German 18.56
15 Central_Greek 19
16 West_Sicilian 19.05
17 Portuguese 19.13
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.46
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.48
20 South_Dutch 19.93
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
FU1408786,24.46,24.74,18.49,8.66,16.86,4.47,0,0,1. 28,0,0.99,0.05,0
Distance to: FU1408786
3.74144357 Romanian_Transylvania
3.77198887 Romanian_Banat
3.84742771 Romanian_Oltenia
3.95901503 Romanian_Moldavia_South
4.07939947 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
4.09655953 Montenegro_SouthEast
4.11458382 Serb_KosovoMetohija
4.26158421 Serb_Herzegovina
4.46816517 Romanian_Dobruja
4.58263025 Romanian_Muntenia
4.58581509 Bulgarian_Southwestern
4.66890780 Romanian_Crişana
4.67721071 Bulgarian_Northwestern
4.87373573 Serb_SouthSerbia
4.87982582 Vlach_Serbia
4.90606767 Montenegro_Old_Herzegovina
4.94091085 Serb_Vojvodina
5.46706503 Bosniak_Sandzak_West
5.51725475 Macedonian_East
5.73537270 Serb_EastSerbia
5.80846796 Serb_Dalmatia
5.81199621 Serb_SouthwestSerbia
5.94147288 Serb_CentralSerbia
6.03573525 Bulgarian_Northcentral
6.17616386 Bulgarian_Southcentral
NdvBal
03-11-2025, 12:27 PM
A woman from Kumanovo
Kit TS3784137
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 25.9
2 Baltic 25.25
3 East_Med 19.59
4 West_Med 16.38
5 West_Asian 10.46
6 Siberian 1.68
7 Oceanian 0.55
8 Red_Sea 0.17
9 South_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.18
2 Bulgarian 4.79
3 Serbian 4.82
4 Moldavian 11.1
5 Hungarian 12.2
6 Greek_Thessaly 12.41
7 Croatian 13.47
8 Austrian 14.92
9 North_Italian 15.95
10 Tuscan 16.3
11 East_German 16.86
12 Italian_Abruzzo 17.94
13 West_German 18.28
14 French 18.96
15 Central_Greek 19.14
16 West_Sicilian 19.51
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.89
18 South_Dutch 19.94
19 South_Polish 20.1
20 East_Sicilian 20.43
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
TS3784137,25.9,25.25,16.38,10.46,19.59,0.17,0,0,1. 68,0,0.55,0,0
Distance to: TS3784137
3.52683995 Serb_KosovoMetohija
3.76575358 Romanian_Banat
3.97889432 Romanian_Transylvania
4.00628257 Romanian_Oltenia
4.25690028 Romanian_Moldavia_South
4.26826663 Romanian_Crişana
4.35583517 Romanian_Muntenia
4.35599587 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
4.55608384 Bulgarian_Southwestern
4.55663253 Serb_Herzegovina
4.67222645 Romanian_Dobruja
4.88705433 Bulgarian_Northwestern
5.13884228 Montenegro_Old_Herzegovina
5.29969810 Montenegro_SouthEast
5.38348400 Serb_SouthSerbia
5.38980519 Serb_Vojvodina
5.55221577 Bulgarian_Northcentral
5.76850934 Vlach_Serbia
5.77784562 Serb_Dalmatia
5.90299077 Macedonian_North
5.92279495 Serb_SouthwestSerbia
5.94254154 Bulgarian_Southcentral
5.95041175 Bosniak_Sandzak_West
6.08554024 Moldovan_South
6.32109168 Bulgarian_Northeastern
NdvBal
03-11-2025, 12:31 PM
A woman from Skopje
Kit NN7722797
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.83
2 Baltic 22.28
3 West_Med 18.81
4 North_Atlantic 17.83
5 West_Asian 15.53
6 Red_Sea 1.9
7 Oceanian 0.52
8 South_Asian 0.21
9 Amerindian 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.54
2 Greek_Thessaly 7.17
3 Romanian 8.37
4 Central_Greek 12.52
5 Serbian 12.61
6 Italian_Abruzzo 13.63
7 East_Sicilian 14.21
8 West_Sicilian 15.56
9 Tuscan 15.64
10 Ashkenazi 16.14
11 Moldavian 16.88
12 South_Italian 17.12
13 North_Italian 18.2
14 Croatian 20.15
15 Hungarian 20.66
16 Algerian_Jewish 22.76
17 Italian_Jewish 22.96
18 Sephardic_Jewish 22.98
19 Austrian 23.44
20 Turkish 24.91
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
NN7722797,17.83,22.28,18.81,15.53,22.83,1.9,0.21,0 ,0,0.1,0.52,0,0
Distance to: NN7722797
3.53039658 Greek_Thrace
3.75290554 Gagauz
3.95724652 Bulgarian_Southeastern
5.12721172 Greek_West
5.59150248 Turkish_Macedonia
5.63264591 Aromanian
5.64808817 Pomak_Greece
5.75053041 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.97827734 Greek_Florina
5.98381149 Pomak_Bulgaria
6.06815458 Bulgarian_Southcentral
6.10985270 Bulgarian_Northeastern
6.15756445 Greek_Achaea
6.40452184 Bulgarian_Moldova
6.51499808 Bulgarian_Northcentral
6.54545644 Macedonian_South
6.65946695 Greek_Epirus
6.82713703 Macedonian_North
7.20616403 Turkish_Deliorman
7.68052082 Greek_Thessaly
7.72501780 Macedonian_Central
7.96737096 Albanian_Montenegro
8.01340128 Bulgarian_Southwestern
8.16172776 Albanian_Macedonia
8.24385832 Romanian_Muntenia
NdvBal
03-11-2025, 12:33 PM
Macedonian from Ohrid
Kit A987004
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.29
2 Baltic 21.63
3 West_Med 20.8
4 North_Atlantic 18.43
5 West_Asian 12.92
6 Red_Sea 1.92
7 Siberian 1.36
8 Amerindian 0.44
9 East_Asian 0.21
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.03
2 Greek_Thessaly 6.06
3 Romanian 7.75
4 Serbian 12.05
5 Central_Greek 12.35
6 Italian_Abruzzo 13.24
7 East_Sicilian 13.86
8 Tuscan 13.93
9 West_Sicilian 14.47
10 Ashkenazi 15.77
11 North_Italian 16.15
12 Moldavian 16.7
13 South_Italian 16.74
14 Croatian 19.89
15 Hungarian 20.22
16 Algerian_Jewish 22.19
17 Italian_Jewish 22.52
18 Sephardic_Jewish 22.73
19 Austrian 22.81
20 Portuguese 23.3
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
A987004,18.43,21.63,20.8,12.92,22.29,1.92,0,0.21,1 .36,0.44,0,0,0
Distance to: A987004
3.54093208 Gagauz
3.56342532 Greek_Thrace
3.80650759 Greek_Florina
3.87586119 Bulgarian_Southeastern
4.09216324 Aromanian
4.30561262 Greek_CentralMacedonia
4.31937495 Greek_West
4.40450905 Macedonian_South
5.12562191 Bulgarian_Southcentral
5.20049036 Macedonian_North
5.55677964 Macedonian_Central
5.63341815 Turkish_Macedonia
5.71567144 Greek_Achaea
5.74539816 Bulgarian_Moldova
5.75897560 Albanian_North_Albania
5.82193267 Albanian_Macedonia
5.88220197 Pomak_Bulgaria
5.92888691 Albanian_Montenegro
5.95488035 Bulgarian_Northeastern
5.95886734 Bulgarian_Northcentral
6.01554653 Greek_Epirus
6.07120252 Torbesh
6.08832489 Greek_Thessaly
6.22535943 Albanian_Kosovo
6.47345348 Pomak_Greece
NdvBal
03-11-2025, 12:37 PM
Macedonian from Struga
Kit JK2840951
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.39
2 West_Med 22.96
3 East_Med 18.61
4 North_Atlantic 18.01
5 West_Asian 11.57
6 Red_Sea 3.17
7 Oceanian 0.67
8 Amerindian 0.52
9 Sub-Saharan 0.07
10 Siberian 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.92
2 Romanian 7.82
3 Greek_Thessaly 9.6
4 Serbian 11.05
5 Moldavian 14.35
6 Central_Greek 15.94
7 Tuscan 16.1
8 Italian_Abruzzo 16.79
9 North_Italian 16.92
10 East_Sicilian 17.25
11 Croatian 17.43
12 West_Sicilian 17.57
13 Hungarian 18.79
14 Ashkenazi 19.5
15 South_Italian 20.24
16 Austrian 21.31
17 East_German 22.86
18 Portuguese 23.11
19 Spanish_Galicia 23.45
20 Ukrainian_Lviv 23.5
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
JK2840951,18.01,24.39,22.96,11.57,18.61,3.17,0,0,0 ,0.52,0.67,0,0.07
Distance to: JK2840951
6.11072009 Gagauz
6.21174694 Pomak_Bulgaria
6.31196483 Bulgarian_Southcentral
6.39111884 Bulgarian_Southeastern
6.52690585 Montenegro_SouthEast
6.75720356 Bulgarian_Northcentral
6.91125170 Macedonian_North
7.10015493 Romanian_Dobruja
7.19319123 Bulgarian_Southwestern
7.23773445 Bulgarian_Northwestern
7.33615703 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
7.36239092 Greek_Florina
7.36353176 Romanian_Muntenia
7.47509197 Vlach_Serbia
7.53528367 Bulgarian_Northeastern
7.56982166 Romanian_Oltenia
7.66574850 Macedonian_Central
7.67865874 Albanian_Montenegro
7.69869469 Aromanian
7.77432955 Macedonian_South
7.96416348 Pomak_Greece
8.11837422 Macedonian_East
8.26644422 Bulgarian_Moldova
8.32897953 Greek_Thrace
8.51289023 Albanian_North_Albania
NdvBal
03-11-2025, 12:39 PM
Macedonian G25 coordinates
Macedonian_Jegunovce_scaled,0.12862,0.146236,0.027 53,-0.004522,0.036007,-0.010319,0.000235,0.002077,0.002045,0.018588,-0.001624,0.003147,-0.004311,0.013074,-0.015472,0.001326,0.001695,0.004941,0.008673,-0.011506,-0.015223,-0.003091,0.00912,-0.003494,-0.011975
Macedonian_Jegunovce_unscaled,0.0113,0.0144,0.0073 ,-0.0014,0.0117,-0.0037,0.0001,0.0009,0.001,0.0102,-0.001,0.0021,-0.0029,0.0095,-0.0114,0.001,0.0013,0.0039,0.0069,-0.0092,-0.0122,-0.0025,0.0074,-0.0029,-0.01
NdvBal
03-11-2025, 12:43 PM
A woman from Edessa/Voden
Kit FD6350863
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.82
2 Baltic 21.65
3 North_Atlantic 19.39
4 West_Med 18.8
5 West_Asian 13.28
6 Red_Sea 3.04
7 Oceanian 1.37
8 Siberian 0.64
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.03
2 Greek_Thessaly 6.37
3 Romanian 6.68
4 Serbian 10.89
5 Central_Greek 12.63
6 Italian_Abruzzo 13.06
7 Tuscan 13.98
8 East_Sicilian 14.08
9 West_Sicilian 14.69
10 Moldavian 15.85
11 Ashkenazi 15.98
12 North_Italian 16.24
13 South_Italian 17.18
14 Croatian 19.05
15 Hungarian 19.17
16 Austrian 21.76
17 Algerian_Jewish 22.67
18 Italian_Jewish 22.78
19 Sephardic_Jewish 22.82
20 Portuguese 23.02
Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):
FD6350863,19.39,21.65,18.8,13.28,21.82,3.04,0,0,0. 64,0,1.37,0,0
Distance to: FD6350863
2.07142463 Bulgarian_Southeastern
2.14795251 Gagauz
3.09704698 Aromanian
3.35724590 Greek_Thrace
3.78945906 Greek_Florina
3.90956519 Bulgarian_Southcentral
4.17510479 Bulgarian_Northeastern
4.18828127 Bulgarian_Moldova
4.25445649 Macedonian_South
4.44978651 Macedonian_North
4.65819708 Bulgarian_Northcentral
4.65846541 Turkish_Macedonia
4.79357904 Pomak_Bulgaria
5.00736458 Greek_West
5.07389397 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.18421643 Pomak_Greece
5.35640738 Macedonian_Central
5.39184570 Albanian_Montenegro
5.84633218 Bulgarian_Southwestern
6.06974464 Greek_Achaea
6.09145303 Albanian_Macedonia
6.13925891 Greek_Epirus
6.14706434 Romanian_Muntenia
6.23296077 Greek_Thessaly
6.27032695 Albanian_Kosovo
NdvBal
05-23-2025, 01:37 AM
Macedonian girl from Bitola and Resen
aneta_scaled,0.125205,0.146236,0.017348,-0.010013,0.017542,-0.001952,0.014336,-0.000231,-0.005113,0.011845,0.00406,0.007643,-0.004014,0.012661,-0.005293,-0.004773,0.007823,0.008742,0.006662,-0.004252,0,0.001731,0.009983,0.003253,-0.002155
aneta,0.011,0.0144,0.0046,-0.0031,0.0057,-0.0007,0.0061,-0.0001,-0.0025,0.0065,0.0025,0.0051,-0.0027,0.0092,-0.0039,-0.0036,0.006,0.0069,0.0053,-0.0034,0,0.0014,0.0081,0.0027,-0.0018
NdvBal
09-02-2025, 03:24 AM
Macedonian from Bitola, the guy is actually a bishop
https://bigorski.org.mk/igumen/biografija/
Kit HQ6233192
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.55
2 Baltic 21.67
3 West_Med 19.52
4 North_Atlantic 17.95
5 West_Asian 14.47
6 Red_Sea 1.34
7 Oceanian 0.5
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 6.14
2 Bulgarian 6.16
3 Romanian 9.1
4 Central_Greek 11.55
5 Italian_Abruzzo 12.84
6 East_Sicilian 13.23
7 Serbian 13.37
8 West_Sicilian 14.44
9 Tuscan 14.73
10 Ashkenazi 14.85
11 South_Italian 16.04
12 North_Italian 17.62
13 Moldavian 18.03
14 Croatian 21.17
15 Hungarian 21.5
16 Algerian_Jewish 21.51
17 Italian_Jewish 21.66
18 Sephardic_Jewish 21.9
19 Austrian 24.2
20 Portuguese 25.04
HQ6233192,17.95,21.67,19.52,14.47,24.55,1.34,0,0,0 ,0,0.5,0,0
Distance to: HQ6233192
2.93264386 Greek_Thrace
3.69881062 Greek_West
4.47592449 Greek_CentralMacedonia
4.76186938 Gagauz
4.87728408 Greek_Achaea
5.13845307 Bulgarian_Southeastern
5.20077879 Greek_Florina
5.24022900 Greek_Epirus
5.26970587 Aromanian
5.41880061 Turkish_Macedonia
5.82643115 Macedonian_South
6.55453278 Greek_Thessaly
6.73520601 Bulgarian_Southcentral
6.74268493 Pomak_Greece
6.86315525 Macedonian_North
6.96085483 Albanian_Macedonia
7.02339661 Pomak_Bulgaria
7.08680464 Bulgarian_Moldova
7.19260732 Bulgarian_Northeastern
7.31518968 Albanian_North_Albania
7.40122287 Bulgarian_Northcentral
7.45501844 Torbesh
7.49195569 Macedonian_Central
7.61837909 Greek_Arcadia
7.64043192 Greek_Peloponnese
JohnnyP
09-07-2025, 06:06 PM
Macedonian from Bitola, the guy is actually a bishop
https://bigorski.org.mk/igumen/biografija/
Kit HQ6233192
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.55
2 Baltic 21.67
3 West_Med 19.52
4 North_Atlantic 17.95
5 West_Asian 14.47
6 Red_Sea 1.34
7 Oceanian 0.5
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 6.14
2 Bulgarian 6.16
3 Romanian 9.1
4 Central_Greek 11.55
5 Italian_Abruzzo 12.84
6 East_Sicilian 13.23
7 Serbian 13.37
8 West_Sicilian 14.44
9 Tuscan 14.73
10 Ashkenazi 14.85
11 South_Italian 16.04
12 North_Italian 17.62
13 Moldavian 18.03
14 Croatian 21.17
15 Hungarian 21.5
16 Algerian_Jewish 21.51
17 Italian_Jewish 21.66
18 Sephardic_Jewish 21.9
19 Austrian 24.2
20 Portuguese 25.04
HQ6233192,17.95,21.67,19.52,14.47,24.55,1.34,0,0,0 ,0,0.5,0,0
Distance to: HQ6233192
2.93264386 Greek_Thrace
3.69881062 Greek_West
4.47592449 Greek_CentralMacedonia
4.76186938 Gagauz
4.87728408 Greek_Achaea
5.13845307 Bulgarian_Southeastern
5.20077879 Greek_Florina
5.24022900 Greek_Epirus
5.26970587 Aromanian
5.41880061 Turkish_Macedonia
5.82643115 Macedonian_South
6.55453278 Greek_Thessaly
6.73520601 Bulgarian_Southcentral
6.74268493 Pomak_Greece
6.86315525 Macedonian_North
6.96085483 Albanian_Macedonia
7.02339661 Pomak_Bulgaria
7.08680464 Bulgarian_Moldova
7.19260732 Bulgarian_Northeastern
7.31518968 Albanian_North_Albania
7.40122287 Bulgarian_Northcentral
7.45501844 Torbesh
7.49195569 Macedonian_Central
7.61837909 Greek_Arcadia
7.64043192 Greek_Peloponnese
This is from Otec Partenij results ? :D
NdvBal
09-12-2025, 10:53 PM
Yeah, that's him, I was definitely surprised someone like him decided to take a DNA test, definitely a typical genetic profile for Bitola!
NdvBal
09-12-2025, 11:02 PM
This result is a bit different, i am not sure if it fits here but i thought it'd be fun to post it just to compare it to the ethnic Macedonian ones, i present to you a native Macedonian Greek from the town of Velventos (The kit has a gedcom)
Kit NN7212531
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 23.19
2 East_Med 23.03
3 Baltic 19.96
4 West_Med 18.62
5 West_Asian 11.61
6 Red_Sea 2.8
7 Oceanian 0.34
8 Amerindian 0.29
9 Northeast_African 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.76
2 Greek_Thessaly 5.74
3 Romanian 6.24
4 Serbian 10.25
5 Tuscan 11.01
6 Italian_Abruzzo 11.42
7 Central_Greek 12.36
8 West_Sicilian 12.94
9 North_Italian 13.11
10 East_Sicilian 13.59
11 Ashkenazi 15.3
12 South_Italian 16.46
13 Moldavian 16.75
14 Hungarian 18.35
15 Croatian 19.43
16 Portuguese 19.94
17 Austrian 20.35
18 Spanish_Extremadura 20.7
19 Spanish_Galicia 20.92
20 French 20.97
Velventos_NN7212531,23.19,19.96,18.62,11.61,23.03, 2.8,0,0,0,0.29,0.34,0.16,0
Distance to: Velventos_NN7212531
2.19189416 Aromanian
2.30896081 Macedonian_South
2.66542680 Greek_Florina
2.94045915 Albanian_Montenegro
3.31743877 Macedonian_Central
3.42973760 Macedonian_North
3.79516798 Albanian_Kosovo
3.97012594 Albanian_Macedonia
3.99326934 Bulgarian_Moldova
4.89378177 Greek_Thessaly
4.94006073 Albanian_North_Albania
4.95593583 Torbesh
4.96747421 Greek_Thrace
5.00649578 Bulgarian_Northeastern
5.02002988 Bulgarian_Southeastern
5.20755221 Bulgarian_Southcentral
5.34767239 Greek_Epirus
5.41568094 Turkish_Macedonia
5.60892146 Gagauz
5.64093077 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.70160504 Macedonian_East
6.08750359 Bulgarian_Northcentral
6.15490049 Greek_West
6.15716656 Bulgarian_Southwestern
6.40255418 Albanian_South_Albania
NdvBal
09-12-2025, 11:16 PM
Same case as the result above, a native Macedonian Greek woman from the town of Grevena
Kit SV5550438
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.6
2 North_Atlantic 23.78
3 Baltic 23.31
4 West_Med 17.48
5 West_Asian 7.05
6 Red_Sea 1.4
7 Oceanian 0.23
8 Northeast_African 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 7.29
2 Romanian 8.38
3 Greek_Thessaly 9.39
4 Serbian 10.82
5 Tuscan 13.88
6 Italian_Abruzzo 15.35
7 North_Italian 15.57
8 West_Sicilian 15.8
9 Central_Greek 15.8
10 Ashkenazi 16.35
11 East_Sicilian 16.65
12 Moldavian 16.98
13 Hungarian 18.08
14 Croatian 19.01
15 South_Italian 19.44
16 Austrian 20.57
17 Portuguese 21.58
18 French 22.26
19 East_German 22.51
20 Spanish_Galicia 22.64
Grevena_SV5550438,23.78,23.31,17.48,7.05,26.6,1.4, 0,0,0,0,0.23,0.15,0
Distance to: Grevena_SV5550438
7.03757771 Greek_Florina
7.32587879 Macedonian_North
7.58034960 Macedonian_South
7.61672502 Albanian_Montenegro
7.69501137 Aromanian
7.92993695 Albanian_Macedonia
8.36703054 Bulgarian_Southcentral
8.70715797 Serb_KosovoMetohija
8.80445342 Macedonian_Central
8.87258136 Bulgarian_Northcentral
8.94371847 Bulgarian_Northwestern
8.97797305 Albanian_North_Albania
9.08268132 Torbesh
9.12225849 Greek_Thrace
9.12483972 Romanian_Muntenia
9.26545736 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
9.28305445 Bulgarian_Southwestern
9.40235609 Romanian_Dobruja
9.46229888 Romanian_Oltenia
9.48526752 Albanian_Kosovo
9.50174721 Gagauz
9.50227867 Pomak_Bulgaria
9.73285159 Greek_Epirus
9.75683863 Greek_Thessaly
9.76545442 Macedonian_East
NdvBal
09-12-2025, 11:22 PM
Grevena again
Kit M244766
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Med 23.68
2 Baltic 19.54
3 North_Atlantic 18.91
4 East_Med 18.54
5 West_Asian 16.82
6 Red_Sea 1.01
7 Oceanian 0.79
8 East_Asian 0.54
9 Siberian 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 8.39
2 Greek_Thessaly 8.83
3 Romanian 10.15
4 Central_Greek 13.15
5 Italian_Abruzzo 13.58
6 Serbian 14.07
7 Tuscan 14.38
8 East_Sicilian 14.98
9 West_Sicilian 15.32
10 North_Italian 15.77
11 South_Italian 17.26
12 Moldavian 18.09
13 Ashkenazi 18.63
14 Croatian 21.35
15 Hungarian 21.67
16 Portuguese 22.86
17 Spanish_Extremadura 23.08
18 Spanish_Galicia 23.43
19 Austrian 23.46
20 Algerian_Jewish 23.73
Grevena_M244766,18.91,19.54,23.68,16.82,18.54,1.01 ,0,0.54,0.16,0,0.79,0,0
Distance to: Grevena_M244766
7.12161499 Bulgarian_Southeastern
7.75757050 Greek_Thrace
7.85944655 Macedonian_Central
8.04847812 Albanian_Kosovo
8.05882125 Greek_CentralMacedonia
8.12318287 Gagauz
8.15886634 Bulgarian_Moldova
8.18177854 Greek_West
8.44069902 Macedonian_South
8.52045187 Bulgarian_Northeastern
8.62603037 Greek_Florina
8.65620587 Aromanian
8.72700980 Albanian_North_Albania
8.82976783 Greek_Achaea
9.01275762 Macedonian_North
9.02977298 Torbesh
9.04351701 Albanian_Montenegro
9.26199762 Greek_Thessaly
9.35554916 Bulgarian_Southcentral
9.39731345 Greek_Epirus
9.62073282 Turkish_Macedonia
9.67347921 Albanian_Macedonia
9.78418111 Macedonian_East
9.89882821 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
9.93086099 Bulgarian_Northcentral
NdvBal
09-12-2025, 11:24 PM
One more person from Grevena
Kit MU2687827
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.12
2 East_Med 20.24
3 West_Med 20.07
4 North_Atlantic 17.85
5 West_Asian 11.79
6 Red_Sea 4.21
7 Siberian 1.39
8 Oceanian 0.98
9 Sub-Saharan 0.13
10 South_Asian 0.12
11 Northeast_African 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.76
2 Romanian 7.08
3 Greek_Thessaly 7.83
4 Serbian 10.8
5 Central_Greek 14.21
6 Moldavian 14.86
7 Italian_Abruzzo 15.05
8 Tuscan 15.28
9 East_Sicilian 15.43
10 West_Sicilian 16.12
11 North_Italian 17.06
12 Ashkenazi 17.26
13 Croatian 18.13
14 South_Italian 18.68
15 Hungarian 18.95
16 Austrian 21.72
17 Portuguese 23.45
18 East_German 23.47
19 Algerian_Jewish 23.65
20 Spanish_Galicia 23.97
Grevena_MU2687827,17.85,23.12,20.07,11.79,20.24,4. 21,0.12,0,1.39,0,0.98,0.1,0.13
Distance to: Grevena_MU2687827
3.51519558 Gagauz
4.13200920 Bulgarian_Southeastern
4.50017777 Bulgarian_Southcentral
4.61370784 Pomak_Bulgaria
5.05777619 Bulgarian_Northcentral
5.38447769 Aromanian
5.49978181 Pomak_Greece
5.64364244 Greek_Florina
5.75066083 Macedonian_North
5.78613861 Bulgarian_Northeastern
6.17148280 Bulgarian_Moldova
6.17464979 Macedonian_South
6.19713644 Bulgarian_Southwestern
6.22584131 Romanian_Dobruja
6.26927428 Greek_Thrace
6.30992076 Romanian_Muntenia
6.50724980 Bulgarian_Northwestern
6.71750698 Albanian_Montenegro
6.83472018 Macedonian_Central
6.94921578 Montenegro_SouthEast
6.97371494 Greek_CentralMacedonia
7.08393958 Greek_West
7.14347954 Romanian_Oltenia
7.31248248 Turkish_Macedonia
7.31311835 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
NdvBal
09-12-2025, 11:25 PM
That's it for the Greeks, as I said the results don't fully belong here but I thought it'd be interesting to share them, since they are part of the same genetic cluster
NdvBal
09-12-2025, 11:36 PM
Macedonian from Bitola
Kit QX3152551
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 25.36
2 West_Med 22.89
3 Baltic 20.37
4 North_Atlantic 20.05
5 West_Asian 8.6
6 Red_Sea 0.99
7 East_Asian 0.95
8 Amerindian 0.79
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.93
2 Bulgarian 7.93
3 Romanian 10.1
4 Tuscan 11.64
5 Central_Greek 12.22
6 West_Sicilian 12.62
7 Italian_Abruzzo 12.86
8 East_Sicilian 13.3
9 Serbian 13.76
10 North_Italian 13.96
11 Ashkenazi 14.32
12 South_Italian 15.81
13 Moldavian 19.24
14 Algerian_Jewish 20.45
15 Italian_Jewish 20.63
16 Portuguese 21.44
17 Sephardic_Jewish 21.52
18 Hungarian 21.67
19 Croatian 21.83
20 Spanish_Extremadura 22.04
QX3152551,20.05,20.37,22.89,8.6,25.36,0.99,0,0.95, 0,0.79,0,0,0
Distance to: QX3152551
4.08949875 Albanian_North_Albania
4.25366900 Albanian_Macedonia
4.27081959 Torbesh
4.96627627 Greek_Florina
5.17469806 Macedonian_South
5.74135002 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.89948303 Albanian_South_Albania
6.04541975 Greek_Thessaly
6.23462108 Greek_Arcadia
6.27635244 Aromanian
6.29010334 Greek_West
6.30627465 Albanian_Kosovo
6.62868011 Macedonian_Central
6.77016248 Albanian_Montenegro
6.89534626 Greek_Epirus
7.11428141 Greek_Thrace
7.13337928 Macedonian_North
7.30358131 Greek_Achaea
7.63507040 Greek_Euboea_South
7.72161900 Greek_Peloponnese
7.76647925 Albanian_Central_Albania
7.84302238 Greek_Messenia
8.15107968 Greek_Laconia
8.24280899 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
8.52849342 Gagauz
NdvBal
09-18-2025, 12:47 AM
Macedonian from Negotino
Kit BM6176753
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.39
2 North_Atlantic 22.68
3 East_Med 20.63
4 West_Med 15.24
5 West_Asian 11.1
6 Red_Sea 3.46
7 Oceanian 0.5
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.8
2 Romanian 3.99
3 Serbian 6.16
4 Moldavian 11.28
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.49
6 Croatian 13.92
7 Hungarian 13.95
8 Austrian 17.19
9 Tuscan 17.36
10 Italian_Abruzzo 17.76
11 Central_Greek 18.15
12 North_Italian 18.17
13 East_German 19.01
14 East_Sicilian 19.32
15 West_Sicilian 19.41
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 20.06
17 Ashkenazi 20.23
18 South_Polish 20.76
19 Ukrainian 21.32
20 West_German 21.33
BM6176753,22.68,26.39,15.24,11.1,20.63,3.46,0,0,0, 0,0.5,0,0
Distance to: BM6176753
3.44303645 Bulgarian_Northwestern
3.81390876 Bulgarian_Northcentral
4.00368580 Romanian_Muntenia
4.01263006 Moldovan_South
4.09471611 Romanian_Dobruja
4.10001220 Pomak_Bulgaria
4.40498581 Bulgarian_Southwestern
4.46622883 Bulgarian_Southcentral
4.69915950 Romanian_Banat
4.71750994 Romanian_Oltenia
4.83027950 Pomak_Greece
4.86764830 Romanian_Moldavia_South
4.94396602 Serb_KosovoMetohija
5.12228465 Romanian_Transylvania
5.23775715 Serb_SouthSerbia
5.45000917 Bulgarian_Northeastern
5.57112197 Montenegro_SouthEast
5.68328250 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
5.94265092 Romanian_Crişana
5.98111194 Macedonian_North
6.06526999 Serb_Herzegovina
6.14798341 Vlach_Serbia
6.16931114 Gagauz
6.21982315 Serb_Vojvodina
6.41545789 Serb_EastSerbia
NdvBal
09-18-2025, 12:59 AM
Macedonian from Kichevo
Kit EH1034383
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.54
2 North_Atlantic 21.15
3 Baltic 21.02
4 West_Med 20.91
5 West_Asian 9.29
6 Red_Sea 3.52
7 Amerindian 1.38
8 Siberian 0.67
9 Oceanian 0.52
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.98
2 Greek_Thessaly 6.22
3 Romanian 6.64
4 Serbian 10.4
5 Tuscan 11.81
6 Italian_Abruzzo 13.23
7 North_Italian 13.34
8 Central_Greek 13.35
9 West_Sicilian 13.79
10 East_Sicilian 14.41
11 Moldavian 16.01
12 Ashkenazi 16.07
13 South_Italian 17.39
14 Hungarian 18.47
15 Croatian 18.78
16 Portuguese 19.94
17 Spanish_Extremadura 20.66
18 Spanish_Galicia 20.66
19 Austrian 20.67
20 French 21.58
EH1034383,21.15,21.02,20.91,9.29,21.54,3.52,0,0,0. 67,1.38,0.52,0,0
Distance to: EH1034383
3.16602274 Macedonian_South
3.21420286 Greek_Florina
3.43104940 Albanian_Montenegro
3.58583324 Aromanian
3.74502336 Macedonian_Central
3.85264844 Macedonian_North
4.04918510 Albanian_Macedonia
4.20528239 Albanian_North_Albania
4.66862935 Torbesh
4.81963692 Albanian_Kosovo
4.93018255 Macedonian_East
5.08342404 Bulgarian_Southcentral
5.61479296 Bulgarian_Southeastern
5.62867658 Bulgarian_Moldova
5.65945227 Gagauz
5.91109973 Greek_Thessaly
6.05008264 Greek_CentralMacedonia
6.05718582 Bulgarian_Northcentral
6.11319066 Bulgarian_Southwestern
6.12618152 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
6.23836517 Bulgarian_Northeastern
6.38188844 Romanian_Muntenia
6.46518368 Greek_Thrace
6.61305527 Romanian_Dobruja
6.78101025 Romanian_Oltenia
NdvBal
09-18-2025, 01:02 AM
G25 coordinates from Florina/Lerin, nowadays in Northern Greece
Lerin_1_scaled,0.125205,0.147252,0.010559,-0.013889,0.012618,-0.001116,0.00799,0.000231,-0.005931,0.009112,-0.000325,0.001948,-0.003419,0.006193,-0.0076,0.001591,0.01004,0.002534,0.005154,-0.005253,-0.005615,-0.001484,0.001356,0.000843,-0.003113
Lerin_1_raw,0.011,0.0145,0.0028,-0.0043,0.0041,-0.0004,0.0034,0.0001,-0.0029,0.005,-0.0002,0.0013,-0.0023,0.0045,-0.0056,0.0012,0.0077,0.002,0.0041,-0.0042,-0.0045,-0.0012,0.0011,0.0007,-0.0026
Lerin_2_scaled,0.127482,0.144205,0.02753,-0.007752,0.020619,-0.000837,0.00047,0.001154,-0.002863,0.004738,0.002111,0.00015,0.00223,0.00812 ,-0.014251,-0.008221,0.011604,0.00038,0.006536,-0.004502,-0.009109,0.000742,0.006779,0.001687,-0.006826
Lerin_2_raw,0.0112,0.0142,0.0073,-0.0024,0.0067,-0.0003,0.0002,0.0005,-0.0014,0.0026,0.0013,0.0001,0.0015,0.0059,-0.0105,-0.0062,0.0089,0.0003,0.0052,-0.0036,-0.0073,0.0006,0.0055,0.0014,-0.0057
NdvBal
10-01-2025, 06:31 AM
Macedonian from Struga, what a massive outlier
Kit JX7774411
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 24.65
2 West_Med 22.9
3 East_Med 22.4
4 Baltic 13.72
5 West_Asian 12
6 Red_Sea 3.49
7 Oceanian 0.69
8 Amerindian 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 5.29
2 Greek_Thessaly 6.43
3 Italian_Abruzzo 7.58
4 North_Italian 8.51
5 West_Sicilian 8.56
6 Central_Greek 10.07
7 Bulgarian 10.83
8 East_Sicilian 11.1
9 Romanian 11.67
10 South_Italian 13.05
11 Ashkenazi 14.58
12 Serbian 15.2
13 Portuguese 16.7
14 Spanish_Extremadura 16.75
15 Spanish_Andalucia 17.78
16 Spanish_Galicia 17.8
17 Spanish_Murcia 18.04
18 Spanish_Valencia 18.41
19 Spanish_Cataluna 18.6
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.91
JX7774411,24.65,13.72,22.90,12.00,22.40,3.49,0,0,0 ,0.15,0.69,0,0
Distance to: JX7774411
4.09702331 Italian_Romagna
4.51231648 Albanian_Central_Albania
4.87876009 Albanian_Kosovo
5.15740245 Italian_Umbria
5.24062019 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
5.39746237 Italian_Lazio
5.40472016 Italian_Marche
5.45054126 Italian_Tuscany
5.46734853 Albanian_South_Albania
5.52993671 Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite
5.66850068 Torbesh
5.83310381 Greek_Euboea_South
6.05933990 Albanian_North_Albania
6.08773357 Greek_Thessaly
6.40848656 Albanian_Macedonia
6.77185351 Italian_Emilia
7.00085709 Macedonian_Central
7.36471995 Greek_Arcadia
7.40443786 Macedonian_South
7.77207823 Greek_Epirus
8.00900119 Greek_Laconia
8.01923937 Italian_Liguria
8.06126541 Greek_Messenia
8.09430046 Greek_CentralMacedonia
8.12751500 Albanian_Montenegro
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