R1b-L151 found in Swiss Corded Ware

[Token]

So another R1b of the European kind was found in a Corded Ware burial in the Swiss plateau and it is looking increasingly likely that Bell Beaker people were just a Corded Ware clan.

His preliminary G25 coordinates:

Aesch25_scaled,0.12862,0.11577,0.059585,0.092055,0 .00677,0.032909,0.00517,0.013384,-0.025361,-0.030616,-0.00747,0.003747,-0.004014,-0.017478,0.029723,0.004508,-0.004172,-0.00038,0.001508,-0.00025,0.001123,-0.001855,0.000493,0.014339,-0.000239

Aesch25,0.0113,0.0114,0.0158,0.0285,0.0022,0.0118, 0.0022,0.0058,-0.0124,-0.0168,-0.0046,0.0025,-0.0027,-0.0127,0.0219,0.0034,-0.0032,-0.0003,0.0012,-0.0002,0.0009,-0.0015,0.0004,0.0119,-0.0002

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 3.3866% / 0.03386582
51.2 Beaker_Iberia
26.2 Minoan_Lasithi
20.0 Aesch25_scaled
2.6 Yoruba



Distance to: Viriato_scaled
0.05920748 Beaker_Iberia
0.13694985 Minoan_Lasithi
0.13870070 CWC_Baltic
0.14577873 Aesch25_scaled
0.62366820 Nganassan
0.74947779 Yoruba

[Grace O'Malley]

Distance to: Aesch25_scaled
0.06993801 Icelandic
0.07040353 Swedish
0.07173822 Norwegian
0.07280312 Finnish
0.07425575 Shetlandic
0.07571393 Irish
0.07606833 Ingrian
0.07678251 Orcadian
0.07682133 Danish
0.07682608 Dutch
0.07707809 Scottish
0.07980351 Russian_Tver
0.08026368 Russian_Kostroma
0.08058397 Russian_Kursk
0.08223169 English
0.08226220 Russian_Orel
0.08241756 German_East
0.08252992 Mordovian
0.08278382 Estonian
0.08312881 Czech
0.08316832 Welsh
0.08351456 Finnish_East
0.08361867 Polish
0.08422633 Cossack_Kuban
0.08427535 Moldovan_o

Target: Aesch25_scaled
Distance: 4.9178% / 0.04917799
42.2 Icelandic
17.2 Finnish_East
16.0 Darginian
11.6 Latvian
5.4 Lithuanian_PZ
4.8 Jatt_Pathak
2.8 Kalash

[Token]

Distance to: Aesch25_scaled
0.06993801 Icelandic
0.07040353 Swedish
0.07173822 Norwegian
0.07280312 Finnish
0.07425575 Shetlandic
0.07571393 Irish
0.07606833 Ingrian
0.07678251 Orcadian
0.07682133 Danish
0.07682608 Dutch
0.07707809 Scottish
0.07980351 Russian_Tver
0.08026368 Russian_Kostroma
0.08058397 Russian_Kursk
0.08223169 English
0.08226220 Russian_Orel
0.08241756 German_East
0.08252992 Mordovian
0.08278382 Estonian
0.08312881 Czech
0.08316832 Welsh
0.08351456 Finnish_East
0.08361867 Polish
0.08422633 Cossack_Kuban
0.08427535 Moldovan_o

Target: Aesch25_scaled
Distance: 4.9178% / 0.04917799
42.2 Icelandic
17.2 Finnish_East
16.0 Darginian
11.6 Latvian
5.4 Lithuanian_PZ
4.8 Jatt_Pathak
2.8 Kalash

He is very northern, more northern than the Baltic CWC samples.

[gixajo]

Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 3.3866% / 0.03386582
51.2 Beaker_Iberia
26.2 Minoan_Lasithi
20.0 Aesch25_scaled
2.6 Yoruba



Distance to: Viriato_scaled
0.05920748 Beaker_Iberia
0.13694985 Minoan_Lasithi
0.13870070 CWC_Baltic
0.14577873 Aesch25_scaled
0.62366820 Nganassan
0.74947779 Yoruba

Wich calculator is it?

[Raizen]

Wich calculator is it?

Try this bro, scaled


Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Aesch25_scaled,0.12862,0.11577,0.059585,0.092055,0 .00677,0.032909,0.00517,0.013384,-0.025361,-0.030616,-0.00747,0.003747,-0.004014,-0.017478,0.029723,0.004508,-0.004172,-0.00038,0.001508,-0.00025,0.001123,-0.001855,0.000493,0.014339,-0.000239
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
MAR_Taforalt,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Wich calculator is it?


Beaker_Iberia,0.127027,0.14583,0.059887,0.013889,0 .05995,-0.001227,-0.007191,0.002631,0.034565,0.043882,-0.003865,0.012259,-0.023994,-0.017396,0.007709,0.000583,0.00412,0.003269,2.5e-05,4e-04,0.008086,0.005119,-0.00599,-0.017834,0.001126
CWC_Baltic,0.125205,0.114417,0.071024,0.093455,0.0 31596,0.028819,0.009322,0.008077,-0.006408,-0.027275,0.002869,-0.005545,0.006095,-0.000183,0.015834,0.010475,0.002912,0.000549,0.003 52,0.00371,0.005158,0.002638,-0.002177,-0.004298,2e-04
Minoan_Lasithi,0.119287,0.170609,-0.018177,-0.093993,0.029544,-0.039826,-0.001316,-0.003461,0.010349,0.05981,0.002988,0.015316,-0.025124,-5.5e-05,-0.037459,-0.010952,0.017393,-0.001242,0.008874,-0.013632,-0.013376,0.008384,-0.005078,-0.00106,-0.002443
Nganassan,0.047692,-0.406618,0.155789,0.00239,-0.159445,-0.088213,0.028507,0.043337,0.031088,0.012848,0.102 857,0.009412,-0.004073,-0.026162,-0.021973,-0.012331,-0.001095,0.013416,0.026837,-0.00085,0.043136,-0.011895,0.03361,0.000398,0.013556
Yoruba,-0.630062,0.062501,0.022113,0.016708,0.000503,0.012 474,-0.044417,0.047767,-0.048881,0.032769,0.004621,0.00079,0.023056,0.0009 51,0.012523,-0.009607,0.007076,0.000449,0.006022,-0.00299,0.001554,0.002316,-0.001759,-0.000471,-0.000425
Aesch25,0.12862,0.11577,0.059585,0.092055,0 .00677,0.032909,0.00517,0.013384,-0.025361,-0.030616,-0.00747,0.003747,-0.004014,-0.017478,0.029723,0.004508,-0.004172,-0.00038,0.001508,-0.00025,0.001123,-0.001855,0.000493,0.014339,-0.000239

Scaled.

[Raizen]

I wonder when my haplogroup (R1b-U106) will be found in ancient DNA.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Raizen run.


Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 3.1432% / 0.03143222
45.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
42.4 Aesch25_scaled
6.4 MAR_Taforalt
5.8 WHG


Distance to: Viriato_scaled
0.14577873 Aesch25_scaled
0.14906706 Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.36209480 WHG
0.43508192 MAR_Taforalt
0.62366819 Nganassan
0.74947829 Yoruba

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.5447% / 0.02544671
64.8 Beaker_Iberia
18.0 Minoan_Lasithi
14.8 Aesch25
1.8 CWC_Baltic
0.6 Yoruba

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.03990523 Beaker_Iberia
0.13076110 CWC_Baltic
0.14138996 Aesch25
0.14442640 Minoan_Lasithi
0.63209843 Nganassan
0.76546254 Yoruba

[mitalit]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.7622% / 0.02762194
48.0 Beaker_Iberia
26.8 Aesch25
23.4 Minoan_Lasithi
1.2 Yoruba
0.6 Nganassan

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.8807% / 0.02880706 | ADC: 0.25x
54.2 Beaker_Iberia
24.6 Aesch25
20.4 Minoan_Lasithi
0.8 Yoruba

[Raizen]

Distance: 2.4830% / 0.02482989
38.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
36.8 Aesch25_scaled
17.0 Non_Euro
4.4 MAR_Taforalt
2.4 WHG
0.8 Nganassan

[gixajo]

With raizer posted sources:

Edit, best distances with this one:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.9703% / 0.02970276
47.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
40.4 Aesch25_scaled
9.8 WHG
2.6 MAR_Taforalt



Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.6719% / 0.04671879 | ADC: 1x
54.4 Aesch25_scaled
45.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.14138996 Aesch25_scaled
0.15287673 Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.34730661 WHG
0.45290775 MAR_Taforalt
0.63209844 Nganassan
0.76546303 Yoruba

[Grace O'Malley]

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 3.3235% / 0.03323527
69.4 Aesch25_scaled
22.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
8.4 WHG

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.8452% / 0.02845209
53.0 Aesch25
44.4 Beaker_Iberia
2.6 CWC_Baltic

[Raizen]

With raizer posted sources:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.6719% / 0.04671879 | ADC: 1x
54.4 Aesch25_scaled
45.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.14138996 Aesch25_scaled
0.15287673 Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.34730661 WHG
0.45290775 MAR_Taforalt
0.63209844 Nganassan
0.76546303 Yoruba

R u Basque?

[gixajo]

Aesch25_scaled ate about 8% Anatolia_Barcin_N all my Steppe result(usually about 30%) and near 5% of my WHG.

[mitalit]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.8294% / 0.02829373
48.8 Aesch25_scaled
42.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
4.8 WHG
4.0 MAR_Taforalt


Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.9722% / 0.02972232 | ADC: 0.25x
51.4 Aesch25_scaled
43.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
3.0 WHG
2.6 MAR_Taforalt

[gixajo]

R u Basque?

I was born in Basque COuntry, but only my maternal side is Basque, my paternal side is from Andalucía.

I get better distances :

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.9703% / 0.02970276
47.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
40.4 Aesch25_scaled
9.8 WHG
2.6 MAR_Taforalt

[Raizen]

I was born in Basque COuntry, but only my maternal side is Basque, my paternal side is from Andalucía.

I get better distances :

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.9703% / 0.02970276
47.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
40.4 Aesch25_scaled
9.8 WHG
2.6 MAR_Taforalt

Ok makes more sense. Btw you have a heck of a lot of WHG.

[gixajo]

Ok makes more sense. Btw you have a heck of a lot of WHG.

A little bit high yes, but nothing too far away from Spanish average.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

https://i.imgur.com/XWxj9LT.png

[PT Tagus]

Beaker_Iberia,0.127027,0.14583,0.059887,0.013889,0 .05995,-0.001227,-0.007191,0.002631,0.034565,0.043882,-0.003865,0.012259,-0.023994,-0.017396,0.007709,0.000583,0.00412,0.003269,2.5e-05,4e-04,0.008086,0.005119,-0.00599,-0.017834,0.001126
CWC_Baltic,0.125205,0.114417,0.071024,0.093455,0.0 31596,0.028819,0.009322,0.008077,-0.006408,-0.027275,0.002869,-0.005545,0.006095,-0.000183,0.015834,0.010475,0.002912,0.000549,0.003 52,0.00371,0.005158,0.002638,-0.002177,-0.004298,2e-04
Minoan_Lasithi,0.119287,0.170609,-0.018177,-0.093993,0.029544,-0.039826,-0.001316,-0.003461,0.010349,0.05981,0.002988,0.015316,-0.025124,-5.5e-05,-0.037459,-0.010952,0.017393,-0.001242,0.008874,-0.013632,-0.013376,0.008384,-0.005078,-0.00106,-0.002443
Nganassan,0.047692,-0.406618,0.155789,0.00239,-0.159445,-0.088213,0.028507,0.043337,0.031088,0.012848,0.102 857,0.009412,-0.004073,-0.026162,-0.021973,-0.012331,-0.001095,0.013416,0.026837,-0.00085,0.043136,-0.011895,0.03361,0.000398,0.013556
Yoruba,-0.630062,0.062501,0.022113,0.016708,0.000503,0.012 474,-0.044417,0.047767,-0.048881,0.032769,0.004621,0.00079,0.023056,0.0009 51,0.012523,-0.009607,0.007076,0.000449,0.006022,-0.00299,0.001554,0.002316,-0.001759,-0.000471,-0.000425
Aesch25,0.12862,0.11577,0.059585,0.092055,0 .00677,0.032909,0.00517,0.013384,-0.025361,-0.030616,-0.00747,0.003747,-0.004014,-0.017478,0.029723,0.004508,-0.004172,-0.00038,0.001508,-0.00025,0.001123,-0.001855,0.000493,0.014339,-0.000239

Scaled.

Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 3.2366% / 0.03236633
48.0 Beaker_Iberia
28.0 Minoan_Lasithi
19.0 Aesch25
5.0 Yoruba



Distance to: PT_Tagus_scaled
0.07018955 Beaker_Iberia
0.13645055 Minoan_Lasithi
0.14374800 CWC_Baltic
0.15101432 Aesch25
0.62661537 Nganassan
0.73040740 Yoruba

[Grace O'Malley]

With GAC added to the dataset.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.8095% / 0.02809494
67.6 Aesch25_scaled
29.6 POL_Globular_Amphora
2.2 UKR_Globular_Amphora
0.6 WHG

[PT Tagus]

Raizen's datasheet

Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 3.2285% / 0.03228471
46.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
40.6 Aesch25_scaled
5.4 WHG
5.0 MAR_Taforalt
2.6 Yoruba



Distance to: PT_Tagus_scaled
0.14876496 Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.15101432 Aesch25_scaled
0.36588130 WHG
0.42714547 MAR_Taforalt
0.62661534 Nganassan
0.73040790 Yoruba

[Daos777]

Target: yo_scaled
Distance: 4.6020% / 0.04602032
77.0 CWC_Baltic
21.6 Minoan_Lasithi
1.4 Nganassan

[Rocinante]

Target: Aesch25_scaled
Distance: 2.5632% / 0.02563155
72.2 Steppe_Pastoralist
16.4 Early_European_Farmer
11.4 Western_Hunter-Gatherer

They were almost ~3/4 of steppe, like CWs.

[Immanenz]

As expected

[savvas]

Are Anglos even white?

LARP

https://i.imgur.com/0KHK8eW.png

REALITY

https://i.imgur.com/SwKt5O7.png

Closer to greasy Andalusians than to their R1b-L151 ancestors. What a shame.

[mitalit]

Are Anglos even white?

LARP

https://i.imgur.com/0KHK8eW.png

REALITY

https://i.imgur.com/SwKt5O7.png

Closer to greasy Andalusians than to their R1b-L151 ancestors. What a shame.

most of the greasy andalusians are r1b

[Rocinante]

Are Anglos even white?

LARP

https://i.imgur.com/0KHK8eW.png

REALITY

https://i.imgur.com/SwKt5O7.png

Closer to greasy Andalusians than to their R1b-L151 ancestors. What a shame.

Greasy andalusians...? More white and better looking people than you, for sure.

[Token]

Let's not turn this thread into a childish fight over who is whiter, you are all grown men already.

[Norb]

Let's not turn this thread into a childish fight over who is whiter, you are all grown men already.

if you're Saxon, does that make me Saxon? #metoo

[Grace O'Malley]

Are Anglos even white?

LARP

https://i.imgur.com/0KHK8eW.png

REALITY

https://i.imgur.com/SwKt5O7.png

Closer to greasy Andalusians than to their R1b-L151 ancestors. What a shame.

https://i.imgur.com/gRglvMg.png

It doesn't mean much though because most Europeans have ancestry from the Steppes. English are a fairly core European population and are a bit more central in who they are closer to. By that I mean they aren't as peripheral as some populations.

These old samples aren't exactly close to any modern populations.

[Token]

if you're Saxon, does that make me Saxon? #metoo

Since you are East Anglian you must be more or less 40% Anglo-Saxon.

[Norb]

Since you are East Anglian you must be more or less 40% Anglo-Saxon.

is that it? it has got to be higher! when will you find your subclade of L664?

[Token]

is that it? it has got to be higher! when will you find your subclade of L664?

This is the average, you could be more. I'm not very interested in haplogroups so i'm not sure if i'm ready to spend a lot of money in Yfull, the dollar became very expensive here in Brasil due to the crisis.

[savvas]

It doesn't mean much though because most Europeans have ancestry from the Steppes. English are a fairly core European population and are a bit more central in who they are closer to. By that I mean they aren't as peripheral as some populations.

You're literally a third wog, as shown by your model. Quit this steppe larping, embrace your wog Atlantic identity:

https://i.imgur.com/uctx7ba.jpg

[Grace O'Malley]

You're literally a third wog, as shown by your model. Quit this steppe larping, embrace your wog Atlantic identity:

https://i.imgur.com/uctx7ba.jpg

Are you jealous? I think you're the one showing your insecurities. :)

[Daos777]

Target: yo_scaled
Distance: 6.2094% / 0.06209376
66.4 Aesch25_scaled
24.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
6.2 WHG
2.2 Nganassan
0.4 MAR_Taforalt


Do you even beaker?

[Ylla]

Not sure if it's right seems a bit high?
Distance: 3.5169% / 0.03516944
56.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
43.2 Aesch25_scaled
0.4 Yoruba

[Daos777]

You're literally a third wog, as shown by your model. Quit this steppe larping, embrace your wog Atlantic identity:

https://i.imgur.com/uctx7ba.jpg


Most of Europe is at least 1/3 wog. Very few northern nations have less than 30 percent Barcin. Italians and Greeks are more than 1/3 wog tho.