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ixulescu
10-14-2020, 07:41 PM
Interesting how Balkanites cluster between Slavs and Romans and not between Slavs and Paleo Balkanites.
That's because we have very few paleo-Balkanite samples compared to Roman samples.
Also note that Romanians are the smallest cluster among Balkanites. This again shows sampling issues.
Serb from western Bosnia (Bosanska Krajina), surame Jotanović.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=102789&d=1602703492
The West Asian is pretty low for the Balkans.
ixulescu
10-14-2020, 07:44 PM
My mistake.
Still grey area is a bit smaller than pink, even we are almost double size in population than Croats.
It's interesting how both Serbian and Bulgarian clusters almost complete engulf the Romanian cluster. Romanians are like the intersection of Serbs and Bulgarians.
Ion Basescul
10-14-2020, 07:49 PM
Romanians are like the intersection of Serbs and Bulgarians.
Not really, vbn obviously lacks Romanians from Northern Moldavia in that run. That would have pushed the cluster more to the left than the Serbian one.
That's because we have very few paleo-Balkanite samples compared to Roman samples.
Also note that Romanians are the smallest cluster among Balkanites. This again shows sampling issues.
Romanian cluster has huge sample size. But I agree we have few Paleo Balkan samples.
Varda
10-14-2020, 07:54 PM
The West Asian is pretty low for the Balkans.
Quite similar as K13 of Serb from Ljubinje (Herzegovina) with suraname Tica.
I posted already Tica on other thread, here is for comparation.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=102790&d=1602705214
ixulescu
10-14-2020, 07:54 PM
Romanian cluster has huge sample size.
Size is not enough, you have to sample all strata in the population to get the actual distribution.
Rural Romanian are not sampled almost at all, and half of Romanians are rural.
Ion Basescul
10-14-2020, 07:56 PM
Size is not enough, you have to sample all strata in the population to get the actual distribution.
Rural Romanian are not sampled almost at all, and half of Romanians are rural.
Most of my samples are rural, I just don't disclose the name of the villages.
ixulescu
10-14-2020, 07:58 PM
Most of my samples are rural, I just don't disclose the name of the villages.
how can that be, are Nelu and Ghiţă this concerned with genetic testing?
actually it would be interesting to have the rural/urban percentage split added to your averages
Ion Basescul
10-14-2020, 08:05 PM
how can that be, are Nelu and Ghita concerned with genetic testing?
I don't know why you are surprised. A lot of people in Romania and Moldova would have had parents or grandparents who were raised in villages, while they were born in towns and cities.
WeirdLookingFellow
10-14-2020, 08:13 PM
I don't know why you are surprised. A lot of people in Romania and Moldova would have had parents or grandparents who were raised in villages, while they were born in towns and cities.
I know almost no Romanian with all 4 grandparents from urban areas, an urba-rural division makes little sense to me in our case. Maybe for some Transylvanian ones.
Ion Basescul
10-14-2020, 08:16 PM
I know almost no Romanian with all 4 grandparents from urban areas, an urba-rural division makes little sense to me in our case. Maybe for some Transylvanian ones.
In R. Moldova it's the same. Those whom I know with grandparents from Chisinau, their grandparents are overwhelmingly ethnic minorities like Jews, Russians, Greeks, Poles. There's even one friend of mine who swears on an Italian ggp :lol:
Moldovan/Romanians and Ukrainians lived primarily in the countryside prior to the Soviet period.
ixulescu
10-14-2020, 08:27 PM
I don't know why you are surprised. A lot of people in Romania and Moldova would have had parents or grandparents who were raised in villages, while they were born in towns and cities.
I consider urban the population that currently lives in cities or suburban areas. I'm not that concerned with the place people were born. From this perspective, I'm not so convinced that true rural people are actively looking for genetic testing.
more boring details here:
I don't know how things used to be in RM, but in Romania a lot of the rural population that moved to cities used to work in the city before they made the move. In fact, many of them didn't move at all, only their villages became neighborhoods in the larger city. This is a process that continues to this day, and sadly, statistics in Romania do not capture this phenomenon correctly.
Now, this population has been suburban for a long time, it's not really correct to consider it rural. When I talk about villages I think of places that are not within commuting distance to cities.
ixulescu
10-14-2020, 08:34 PM
I know almost no Romanian with all 4 grandparents from urban areas, an urba-rural division makes little sense to me in our case. Maybe for some Transylvanian ones.
it's almost certain there is a genetic difference between urban and rural populations in Romania.
cities have above average med, while rural areas have more baltic (except in Baragan).
Ion Basescul
10-14-2020, 08:36 PM
I consider urban the population that currently lives in cities or suburban areas. I'm not that concerned with the place people were born. From this perspective, I'm not so convinced that true rural people are actively looking for genetic testing.
more boring details here:
I don't know how things used to be in RM, but in Romania a lot of the rural population that moved to cities used to work in the city before they made the move. In fact, many of them didn't move at all, only their villages became neighborhoods in the larger city. This is a process that continues to this day, and sadly, statistics in Romania do not capture this phenomenon correctly.
Now, this population has been suburban for a long time, it's not really correct to consider it rural. When I talk about villages I think of places that are not within commuting distance to cities.
They could live even on the moon as far as we should be concerned. What matters is where their grandparents were born.
Ion Basescul
10-14-2020, 08:42 PM
it's almost certain there is a genetic difference between urban and rural populations in Romania.
cities have above average med, while rural areas have more baltic (except in Baragan).
Not really, especially for places like Ploiesti and Bucuresti which attract people from all over the country. Those from Moldavia pull the average Southern admixture down in cities from Muntenia. There are people in the rural areas around Ploiesti and Bucuresti with around 21% East Med. But villages are far from being homogenous if that's what you are suggesting. Same is true for the other side of Prut.
ixulescu
10-14-2020, 08:44 PM
They could live even on the moon as far as we should be concerned. What matters is where their grandparents were born.
sure, but suburban villages were/are different from the rest of the villages. suburban village population was already closer to that of cities compared that of the proper rural areas. just saying that, "hey most romanians have village born grandparents" is not illuminating. Question is: what kind of village? proper rural or suburban?
urban and rural populations in Romania look uniformly different, and I do expect that to be reflected in genetics
Ion Basescul
10-14-2020, 08:48 PM
Here are some Muntenians from villages.
From top to bottom, 4 from Buzau county, 2 Arges, 2 Prahova, 1 Dambovita, 9 Ialomita, 2 Teleorman, 2 Calarasi, 2 Arges
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
22.52
23.37
17.82
13.81
17.08
2.44
0
0.42
0.78
1.11
0
0
0.64
19.73
22.63
16.91
13.70
20.31
3.91
0
1.06
0.99
0.49
0
0.27
0
21.66
24.81
20.04
12.00
16.24
1.57
0
0
2.14
0.96
0
0
0.57
21.06
25.82
17.24
12.08
18.56
2.39
0
0
1.81
0.94
0.10
0
0
24.22
23.63
17.55
12.50
16.69
1.83
0.25
2.00
0.31
0
0.07
0.95
0
19.14
26.55
17.57
9.75
21.62
2.97
0.31
0.79
0
1.18
0.13
0
0
23.31
20.50
18.32
10.05
21.07
3.38
0
1.28
0.28
0.10
1.29
0
0.42
25.45
31.50
13.01
8.99
11.95
4.09
1.91
0.19
2.63
0
0
0
0.27
23.65
28.15
14.73
10.75
15.39
2.48
1.40
0.91
0.94
0.97
0
0.62
0
22.34
25.37
17.11
12.08
18.06
1.65
0
1.22
0.80
0.67
0.38
0
0.31
23.26
22.95
18.50
13.46
15.12
3.66
0.34
0.33
1.49
0.88
0
0
0
23.06
23.33
17.96
10.88
18.12
2.67
0.97
0
2.02
0.95
0
0
0
16.87
26.50
17.45
16.62
18.74
0.65
0.95
0
1.42
0
0
0.80
0
21.15
28.46
16.15
8.55
17.62
2.94
0.58
1.39
0
2.64
0.14
0
0.39
17.41
27.21
17.96
12.08
19.75
1.59
0.15
1.03
0.87
1.93
0
0
0
19.04
29.46
17.12
12.06
17.84
0.68
1.51
0.22
0.81
0.72
0.25
0
0.31
22.53
21.05
17.47
15.79
17.37
2.84
0.42
0
2.01
0.52
0
0
0
24.82
20.14
15.32
12.75
20.47
3.56
0
0
2.16
0.13
0.64
0
0
20.78
24.59
17.83
12.38
17.43
1.70
2.59
0
0.46
0.36
1.55
0
0.33
20.46
21.83
20.03
10.55
21.08
3.48
0
1.30
1.22
0.06
0
0
0
23.14
20.71
20.20
13.39
14.27
3.55
1.38
2.28
0.62
0.05
0.28
0.14
0
21.87
24.61
17.16
12.49
18.67
1.19
1.15
0.93
1.25
0
0.52
0
0.17
21.35
21.68
18.13
9.38
23.03
1.95
1.07
1.22
1.03
0
1.15
0
0
24.12
23.85
17.02
11.78
18.38
2.60
0
0
1.16
0.27
0.34
0.48
0
18.32
29.47
16.35
11.37
21.77
1.23
0
0
0.79
0.46
0
0
0.25
23.85
23.20
16.65
9.21
19.25
3.02
1.47
0
0.78
1.51
0.10
0
0.94
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ixulescu
10-14-2020, 08:50 PM
Here are some Muntenians from villages.
dude, instead of talking let's just test it on each component. I can do it if you send me the data.
Ion Basescul
10-14-2020, 08:55 PM
dude, instead of talking let's just test it on each component. I can do it if you send me the data.
You won't get access to personal details, but you can grab what I've posted above and in my threads and work on them. There aren't any substantial differences. If anything, if one were to look at villages in Romania, there are more Gypsies there than in the urban areas on average.
ixulescu
10-14-2020, 08:56 PM
You won't get access to personal details, but you can grab what I've posted above in my threads and work on them.
I don't care about personal details, but I need a proper rural/urban label for each sample.
vbnetkhio
10-14-2020, 09:19 PM
That's because we have very few paleo-Balkanite samples compared to Roman samples.
Also note that Romanians are the smallest cluster among Balkanites. This again shows sampling issues.
it doesn't matter how wide the Paleo-Balkan cluster gets. After the impact of the Roman Empire, there were no pure paleo-Balkanians anymore.
for example, here (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?21442-E-V13-in-Bulgarian-Iron-Age&p=695848&viewfull=1#post695848) is the demographic history of just one of the Roman Provinces. (i don't mean the haplogroups, scroll down.)
vbnetkhio
10-14-2020, 09:42 PM
Not really, vbn obviously lacks Romanians from Northern Moldavia in that run. That would have pushed the cluster more to the left than the Serbian one.
could you send me the individual Romanian, Moldovan and Bulgarian samples for this PCA?
ixulescu
10-14-2020, 09:43 PM
it doesn't matter how wide the Paleo-Balkan cluster gets. After the impact of the Roman Empire, there were no pure paleo-Balkanians anymore.
for example, here (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?21442-E-V13-in-Bulgarian-Iron-Age&p=695848&viewfull=1#post695848) is the demographic history of just one of the Roman Provinces. (i don't mean the haplogroups, scroll down.)
paleo-Balkan is used very liberally here (and everywhere), it can range right up to the Slavic migrations. If it's used this way then paleo-Balkan includes the Roman influence.
vbnetkhio
10-14-2020, 09:47 PM
paleo-Balkan is used very liberally here (and everywhere), it can range right up to the Slavic migrations. If it's used this way then paleo-Balkan includes the Roman influence.
ok, then we agree. the paleo-Balkan samples i used on this pca are what i believe to be the typical pre-Roman Balkan samples.
vbnetkhio
10-14-2020, 11:19 PM
update, thanks to Ion Basescul.
https://i.imgur.com/OLqRBwx.png
vbnetkhio
10-15-2020, 09:50 AM
after removing 6 outliers from the 530 Romanians and Moldovans:
https://i.imgur.com/7bbVaxY.png
I tried to divide Romania into 3 traditional regions, but they occupy the same range on the plot (https://i.imgur.com/LEZqjMZ.png). that's why i used just one big "Romanian/Moldovan" cluster.
Aspirin
10-15-2020, 10:19 AM
after removing 6 outliers from the 530 Romanians and Moldovans:
https://i.imgur.com/7bbVaxY.png
Who is Romania/Moldova? The big grey cluster?
vbnetkhio
10-15-2020, 10:19 AM
Who is Romania/Moldova? The big grey cluster?
yes.
Ion Basescul
10-15-2020, 10:40 AM
after removing 6 outliers from the 530 Romanians and Moldovans:
https://i.imgur.com/7bbVaxY.png
I tried to divide Romania into 3 traditional regions, but they occupy the same range on the plot (https://i.imgur.com/LEZqjMZ.png). that's why i used just one big "Romanian/Moldovan" cluster.You could try and split Romania and Republic of Moldova in their own clusters, but I think they will be similar, because of the Stefan Voda outliers on one end and Suceava on the other.
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red cluster is Bulgarian and green Macedonian/Aromanian?
Could you add Hungarians perhaps?
vbnetkhio
10-15-2020, 10:59 AM
red cluster is Bulgarian and green Macedonian/Aromanian?
Could you add Hungarians perhaps?
yes.
could you send me the k13 Hungarian database?
You could try and split Romania and Republic of Moldova in their own clusters, but I think they will be similar, because of the Stefan Voda outliers on one end and Suceava on the other.
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i tried that too. maybe the best division is Wallachia+South Moldova on one side, and Transylvania+Moldavia+Moldova on the other.
these are the outliers btw:
Romania_Moldavia_12_Botosani,18.23,40,15.66,8.32,1 0.78,0,2.34,0.76,1,1.93,0.99,0,0
Moldova_7_Edinet,20.49,37.99,14.24,10.49,12.58,1.1 5,0,0,2.42,0.33,0,0,0.31
Moldova_47_Balti,18.18,36.07,14.32,12.57,10.84,2.8 7,0.06,1.99,1.21,0,0.7,0.65,0.55
Moldova_66_Chisinau,16.62,36.01,12.23,12.45,12.34, 1.86,4.34,0,1.65,1.59,0.55,0.36,0
Romania_Muntenia_140_Bucuresti,14.94,30.25,18.1,12 .55,17.83,1.55,1.44,1.79,0,0.8,0.37,0,0.4
Romania_Muntenia_142_Bucuresti,17.68,34.22,13.55,6 .36,24.84,0.77,0.42,0,1.03,0.89,0,0,0.23
i think they have some real Scythian ancestry.
yes.
could you send me the k13 Hungarian database?
i tried that too. maybe the best division is Wallachia+South Moldova on one side, and Transylvania+Moldavia+Moldova on the other.
these are the outliers btw:
Romania_Moldavia_12_Botosani,18.23,40,15.66,8.32,1 0.78,0,2.34,0.76,1,1.93,0.99,0,0
Moldova_7_Edinet,20.49,37.99,14.24,10.49,12.58,1.1 5,0,0,2.42,0.33,0,0,0.31
Moldova_47_Balti,18.18,36.07,14.32,12.57,10.84,2.8 7,0.06,1.99,1.21,0,0.7,0.65,0.55
Moldova_66_Chisinau,16.62,36.01,12.23,12.45,12.34, 1.86,4.34,0,1.65,1.59,0.55,0.36,0
Romania_Muntenia_140_Bucuresti,14.94,30.25,18.1,12 .55,17.83,1.55,1.44,1.79,0,0.8,0.37,0,0.4
Romania_Muntenia_142_Bucuresti,17.68,34.22,13.55,6 .36,24.84,0.77,0.42,0,1.03,0.89,0,0,0.23
i think they have some real Scythian ancestry.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?322006-The-most-ultimate-Hungarian-K13-database-thus-far&p=6675961&viewfull=1#post6675961
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?322006-The-most-ultimate-Hungarian-K13-database-thus-far&p=6676015&viewfull=1#post6676015
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?322006-The-most-ultimate-Hungarian-K13-database-thus-far&p=6676079&viewfull=1#post6676079
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?322006-The-most-ultimate-Hungarian-K13-database-thus-far&p=6676595&viewfull=1#post6676595
But Dunai said he's working on significant update. It's lot of work to put them on PCA, so maybe better wait for update.
Some Romanian, presumably from Western Romania. Ion, if you need the number, I will share it with you.
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.16
2 North_Atlantic 23.37
3 East_Med 18.83
4 West_Med 14.47
5 West_Asian 11.4
6 Red_Sea 3.31
7 Oceanian 1.67
8 East_Asian 1.05
9 South_Asian 0.7
10 Siberian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.7
2 Bulgarian 4.4
3 Serbian 5.51
4 Moldavian 10.82
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.93
6 Hungarian 13.2
7 Croatian 13.62
8 Austrian 16.25
9 Tuscan 17.18
10 Italian_Abruzzo 17.67
11 North_Italian 17.69
12 East_German 18.14
13 Central_Greek 18.45
14 West_Sicilian 19.46
15 East_Sicilian 19.62
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.74
17 West_German 20.03
18 South_Polish 20.45
19 Ashkenazi 20.81
20 French 20.81
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.7% Serbian + 11.3% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.23
2 88.8% Serbian + 11.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.26
3 57.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 42.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.28
4 57.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 42.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.31
5 88.5% Serbian + 11.5% Assyrian @ 2.34
6 88.6% Serbian + 11.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.44
7 88.6% Serbian + 11.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.48
8 87.5% Serbian + 12.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.49
9 64.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 35.8% Lithuanian @ 2.54
10 87.8% Serbian + 12.2% Syrian @ 2.59
11 89.1% Serbian + 10.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.59
12 59.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 40.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.6
13 60.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 39.6% Belorussian @ 2.67
14 88.5% Serbian + 11.5% Jordanian @ 2.7
15 52.6% Central_Greek + 47.4% South_Polish @ 2.72
16 60% Italian_Abruzzo + 40% Estonian_Polish @ 2.72
17 89% Serbian + 11% Samaritan @ 2.74
18 89.2% Serbian + 10.8% Armenian @ 2.78
19 88.8% Serbian + 11.2% Palestinian @ 2.78
20 90.6% Bulgarian + 9.4% La_Brana-1 @ 2.82
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 16.64
2 North_Sea 16.13
3 East_Med 15.76
4 Atlantic 13.9
5 West_Asian 11.86
6 Eastern_Euro 10.63
7 West_Med 10
8 Red_Sea 3.14
9 Oceanian 1.55
10 South_Asian 0.27
11 Southeast_Asian 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.91
2 Bulgarian 5.23
3 Serbian 6.53
4 Moldavian 9.9
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.36
6 Croatian 12.13
7 Hungarian 12.44
8 Greek 12.51
9 Austrian 12.96
10 Tuscan 16.05
11 Italian_Abruzzo 16.18
12 Ashkenazi 16.29
13 Central_Greek 16.8
14 East_German 17.08
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.34
16 North_Italian 17.46
17 East_Sicilian 17.79
18 South_Polish 18.06
19 West_Sicilian 18.37
20 Ukrainian 18.52
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.2% Central_Greek + 39.8% Estonian @ 2.92
2 75.7% Croatian + 24.3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.98
3 72.5% Croatian + 27.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.02
4 51.9% Central_Greek + 48.1% South_Polish @ 3.09
5 74.4% Croatian + 25.6% Assyrian @ 3.15
6 55.8% Central_Greek + 44.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.16
7 50.8% Central_Greek + 49.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.17
8 55% Central_Greek + 45% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.21
9 75.8% Croatian + 24.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.32
10 76.8% Moldavian + 23.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.33
11 56% Italian_Abruzzo + 44% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.33
12 75.8% Croatian + 24.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.34
13 98.4% Romanian + 1.6% Papuan @ 3.34
14 79.7% Moldavian + 20.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.36
15 62.7% South_Polish + 37.3% Cyprian @ 3.38
16 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% NAN_Melanesian @ 3.39
17 55.4% Central_Greek + 44.6% Polish @ 3.41
18 75.5% Croatian + 24.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.42
19 52.5% Central_Greek + 47.5% Ukrainian @ 3.44
20 56.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 43.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.46
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 33.61
2 Atlantic_Med 25.17
3 Caucasus 24.76
4 Southwest_Asian 8.15
5 Gedrosia 5.91
6 Southeast_Asian 1.25
7 Siberian 0.78
8 South_Asian 0.36
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 5.51
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 6.02
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 7.3
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 31.2% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.73
Ion Basescul
10-15-2020, 11:12 AM
yes.
could you send me the k13 Hungarian database?
i tried that too. maybe the best division is Wallachia+South Moldova on one side, and Transylvania+Moldavia+Moldova on the other.
these are the outliers btw:
Romania_Moldavia_12_Botosani,18.23,40,15.66,8.32,1 0.78,0,2.34,0.76,1,1.93,0.99,0,0
Moldova_7_Edinet,20.49,37.99,14.24,10.49,12.58,1.1 5,0,0,2.42,0.33,0,0,0.31
Moldova_47_Balti,18.18,36.07,14.32,12.57,10.84,2.8 7,0.06,1.99,1.21,0,0.7,0.65,0.55
Moldova_66_Chisinau,16.62,36.01,12.23,12.45,12.34, 1.86,4.34,0,1.65,1.59,0.55,0.36,0
Romania_Muntenia_140_Bucuresti,14.94,30.25,18.1,12 .55,17.83,1.55,1.44,1.79,0,0.8,0.37,0,0.4
Romania_Muntenia_142_Bucuresti,17.68,34.22,13.55,6 .36,24.84,0.77,0.42,0,1.03,0.89,0,0,0.23
i think they have some real Scythian ancestry.
Nah, I think it's just an unbalanced proportion between North Atlantic and Baltic that is being produced by K13. I didn't notice the same on K36 for example. My mom experiences the same with her original unimputed data.
Mama_OG,19.44,37.30,15.60,10.04,13.19,0.47,0.95,1. 49,0.28,0.41,0.82,0,0
Interesting tsne from Ph2ter
https://i.imgur.com/Rbo3l3r.png
Transylvania means Hungarians from Transylvania btw. He made this to show how Hungarian regions cluster on such plot.
WeirdLookingFellow
10-15-2020, 11:23 AM
Hehehe, love how I split from the Romanian cluster in that one.
Ion Basescul
10-15-2020, 11:40 AM
Interesting tsne from Ph2ter
https://i.imgur.com/Rbo3l3r.png
Transylvania means Hungarians from Transylvania btw. He made this to show how Hungarian regions cluster on such plot.
Oof, I cluster with Hungarians from Romania again. I'm wondering how it will look when I get the MyHeritage data.
Varda
10-15-2020, 03:23 PM
Bosniak with surname Tanović. Probably from East Herzegovina (Tanović is common Bosniak surname from Gacko https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gacko).
He is super mongoloid for South Slavic standards.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=102810&d=1602775420
Bosniak with surname Tanović. Probably from East Herzegovina (Tanović is common Bosniak surname from Gacko https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gacko).
He is super mongoloid for South Slavic standards 102810
Interesting. His Mongoloid according to Dodecad. That may be Turkish ancestry of some sort. I wonder what he scores on Ancestry DNA (his testing company)
Gedrosia 3.80 Pct
Siberian 1.16 Pct
Northwest_African 0.95 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.41 Pct
Atlantic_Med 25.56 Pct
North_European 40.71 Pct
South_Asian 0.56 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.95 Pct
East_Asian 0.81 Pct
Caucasus 22.10 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Tanović
2.65198039 MD_Center
2.86876280 MD_North
3.00099983 Serb
3.48071832 Bosnian
4.62586208 Croat
4.91216856 HUN_Szekely
6.07415838 Montenegrin
7.59622933 Romanian
8.01894008 Macedonian
8.55479398 Pomak
Target: Tanović
Distance: 1.7672% / 1.76720973 | ADC: 0.5x
43.0 MD_North
31.0 MD_Center
26.0 Serb
Target: Tanović
Distance: 1.5339% / 1.53391798 | ADC: 0.25x
72.0 MD_North
21.2 Serb
6.0 Albanian_North
0.8 Georgian_Mingrelian
Without Moldova
Target: Tanović
Distance: 1.8814% / 1.88139465 | ADC: 0.25x
51.8 Bosnian
44.6 Serb
3.6 Nogai
Varda
10-15-2020, 03:50 PM
Interesting. His Mongoloid according to Dodecad. That may be Turkish ancestry of some sort. I wonder what he scores on Ancestry DNA (his testing company)
Gedrosia 3.80 Pct
Siberian 1.16 Pct
Northwest_African 0.95 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.41 Pct
Atlantic_Med 25.56 Pct
North_European 40.71 Pct
South_Asian 0.56 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.95 Pct
East_Asian 0.81 Pct
Caucasus 22.10 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Tanović
2.65198039 MD_Center
2.86876280 MD_North
3.00099983 Serb
3.48071832 Bosnian
4.62586208 Croat
4.91216856 HUN_Szekely
6.07415838 Montenegrin
7.59622933 Romanian
8.01894008 Macedonian
8.55479398 Pomak
Target: Tanović
Distance: 1.7672% / 1.76720973 | ADC: 0.5x
43.0 MD_North
31.0 MD_Center
26.0 Serb
Target: Tanović
Distance: 1.5339% / 1.53391798 | ADC: 0.25x
72.0 MD_North
21.2 Serb
6.0 Albanian_North
0.8 Georgian_Mingrelian
Without Moldova
Target: Tanović
Distance: 1.8814% / 1.88139465 | ADC: 0.25x
51.8 Bosnian
44.6 Serb
3.6 Nogai
According to "Bosniak dna project" y dna of Tanović family from Gacko is "Sardinian" branch of I2a.
According to "Bosniak dna project" y dna of Tanović family from Gacko is "Sardinian" branch of I2a.
Fucking Bonsiensis would love to have it I guess. xD He is obsessed with his pre-Slavic heritage, supposed or real.
Varda
10-15-2020, 04:38 PM
Fucking Bonsiensis would love to have it I guess. xD He is obsessed with his pre-Slavic heritage, supposed or real.
Yea, he promote Vlach supremacy.
Unban Vlachobosniensis! :cool:
Varda
10-15-2020, 04:38 PM
Double
Noble Cuman
10-15-2020, 05:32 PM
Bosniak Sandak-Novi Pazar and Sjenica
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 26
2 Baltic 24.89
3 West_Med 19.84
4 East_Med 17
5 West_Asian 7.93
6 Red_Sea 2.96
7 South_Asian 1.39
8 Siberian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.46
2 Serbian 4.88
3 Bulgarian 6.27
4 Moldavian 10.95
5 Hungarian 12.15
6 Greek_Thessaly 12.57
7 Croatian 12.96
8 North_Italian 13.82
9 Austrian 13.97
10 Tuscan 15.27
11 East_German 15.78
12 French 17.02
13 West_German 17.48
14 Portuguese 17.87
15 Spanish_Galicia 18.12
16 Italian_Abruzzo 18.43
17 South_Dutch 18.77
18 Spanish_Extremadura 19.09
19 Spanish_Cataluna 19.14
20 West_Sicilian 19.28
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.9% Serbian + 11.1% Sardinian @ 1.75
2 54.2% Croatian + 45.8% Tuscan @ 2.03
3 57.8% Tuscan + 42.2% Ukrainian @ 2.18
4 63.1% Tuscan + 36.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.34
5 56.3% Tuscan + 43.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.36
6 63.5% Tuscan + 36.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.42
7 67.6% Tuscan + 32.4% Lithuanian @ 2.43
8 62.1% Tuscan + 37.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.52
9 61.7% Tuscan + 38.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.52
10 58.6% Moldavian + 41.4% Tuscan @ 2.53
11 60.1% Croatian + 39.9% West_Sicilian @ 2.72
12 55.9% Greek_Thessaly + 44.1% East_German @ 2.83
13 61% Tuscan + 39% Polish @ 2.88
14 64.1% Tuscan + 35.9% Belorussian @ 2.92
15 55.1% West_Sicilian + 44.9% Polish @ 2.98
16 78% Serbian + 22% North_Italian @ 3.06
17 87.1% Romanian + 12.9% Southwest_French @ 3.08
18 51% West_Sicilian + 49% South_Polish @ 3.08
19 51.9% West_Sicilian + 48.1% Ukrainian @ 3.08
20 57% Tuscan + 43% South_Polish @ 3.11
ixulescu
10-15-2020, 05:43 PM
Yea, he promote Vlach supremacy.
Unban Vlachobosniensis! :cool:
He can claim Vlach only if he converts, that's how it works :D
Varda
10-15-2020, 07:14 PM
Fucking Bonsiensis would love to have it I guess. xD He is obsessed with his pre-Slavic heritage, supposed or real.
I have idea about y dna of Tanović Bosniaks from Gacko.
Large part of muslims of Gacko area are descendants ot muslims settlers from Herceg Novi (coastal Montenegro) in 1687. In 1687 Venetians took Herceg Novi from Ottomans with the help of Montenegrin and Herzegovinian Serbs, and muslims moved mostly to Gacko and some on few other locations in Herzegovina. On October 27, 1538 Spaniards lead by Andrea Doria took Herceg Novi from Ottomans and held city until August 10, 1539. In August 1539 Ottomans attacked Herceg Novi from land and sea with huge army, lead by Rumeli beylerbey Husref, Bosnian sanjak-bey and Hayreddin Barbarossa. Ottomans defeated Spaniards and returned Herceg Novi. Only about 50 Spaniards survived the battle. Ottomans were amazed by heroism of Spaniards and spaired their lives and allowed them to stay in city if they want. Maybe some Spaniard stayed and converted on Islam and beause of that Tanovići carry "Sardinian" I2a (they ariived in Gacko in 1687 from Herceg Novi).
I have idea about y dna of Tanović Bosniaks from Gacko.
Large part of muslims of Gacko area are descendants ot muslims settlers from Herceg Novi (coastal Montenegro) in 1687. In 1687 Venetians took Herceg Novi from Ottomans with the help of Montenegrin and Herzegovinian Serbs, and muslims moved mostly to Gacko and some on few other locations in Herzegovina. On October 27, 1538 Spaniards lead by Andrea Doria took Herceg Novi from Ottomans and held city until August 10, 1539. In August 1539 Ottomans attacked Herceg Novi from land and sea with huge army, lead by Rumeli beylerbey Husref, Bosnian sanjak-bey and Hayreddin Barbarossa. Ottomans defeated Spaniards and returned Herceg Novi. Only about 50 Spaniards survuved the battle. Ottomans were amazed by heroism of Spaniards and spaired their lives and allowed them to stay in city if they want. Maybe some Spaniard stayed and converted on Islam and beause of that Tanovići carry "Srdinian" I2a (they ariived in Gacko in 1687 from Herceg Novi).
Well, I2a is quite uncommon in Spain. Not even 10% of the population as far as I'm concerned. So that seems rather unlikely. Of course any autosomal influence would have been washed out by now.
He is super mongoloid for South Slavic standards.
Is he? My father's values
North_Atlantic 28.42 Pct
Baltic 31.99 Pct
West_Med 15.48 Pct
West_Asian 8.37 Pct
East_Med 12.10 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.59 Pct
Siberian 0.53 Pct
Amerindian 1.00 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.37 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.16 Pct
Varda
10-15-2020, 07:31 PM
Well, I2a is quite uncommon in Spain. Not even 10% of the population as far as I'm concerned. So that seems rather unlikely. Of course any autosomal influence would have been washed out by now.
I2-Z113 is extremly rare in the Balkans.
One Serb from Kosovo carry this y dna, he is probably descendant of Catalan mercenaries who served to Serbian rulers from Nemanjić dynasty in 14th century. I see Spaniards here with this Serb https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Z113/
Ion Basescul
10-15-2020, 07:32 PM
Is he? My father's values
North_Atlantic 28.42 Pct
Baltic 31.99 Pct
West_Med 15.48 Pct
West_Asian 8.37 Pct
East_Med 12.10 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.59 Pct
Siberian 0.53 Pct
Amerindian 1.00 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.37 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.16 Pct
Innate ability to handle chopsticks
Varda
10-15-2020, 07:59 PM
Is he? My father's values
North_Atlantic 28.42 Pct
Baltic 31.99 Pct
West_Med 15.48 Pct
West_Asian 8.37 Pct
East_Med 12.10 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.59 Pct
Siberian 0.53 Pct
Amerindian 1.00 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.37 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.16 Pct
Your ćaća is about 2.8% mongoloid, quite high score. Bosniak is about 3.15%.
Amerindian is 70% mongoloid, not full.
Your ćaća is about 2.8% mongoloid, quite high score. Bosniak is about 3.15%.
Amerindian is 70% mongoloid, not full.
1.92% according to Dodecad. Let's say 2 percent. Still as much if not more than what Tu-LARP Karom scores.
Stearsolina_Dad(Croatian),5.33,1.02,0.24,0.11,26.2 2,44.36,0,0.1,3.92,0.79,17.9,0
Varda
10-15-2020, 08:36 PM
1.92% according to Dodecad. Let's say 2 percent. Still as much if not more than what Tu-LARP Karom scores.
Stearsolina_Dad(Croatian),5.33,1.02,0.24,0.11,26.2 2,44.36,0,0.1,3.92,0.79,17.9,0
You consider Dodecad more precise than K13 Eurogenes?
Mongoloid score is always lower on Dodecad than on K13.
You consider Dodecad more precise than K13 Eurogenes?
Mongoloid score is always lower on Dodecad than on K13.
Well, I don't know if it's always more precise, I'm just more used to it. It has three Mongoloid components and lacks the Amerindian which is not needed in Eurasia at all (for those with real Amerindian ancestry Dodecad World9 will be more suitable). I guess some of the Amerindian goes into North European while the rest to Siberian. Who knows. Nothing is 100% accurate anyway.
See this Mexican for example (sorry for being off-topic)
North_Atlantic 22.58 Pct
Baltic 6.41 Pct
West_Med 19.04 Pct
West_Asian -
East_Med 11.22 Pct
Red_Sea 1.63 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.00 Pct
Siberian 1.56 Pct
Amerindian 32.05 Pct
Oceanian 0.68 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 3.83 Pct
34.6% Amerindian + Siberian + East Asian
Gedrosia 6.29 Pct
Siberian 10.64 Pct
Northwest_African 3.80 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.56 Pct
Atlantic_Med 25.17 Pct
North_European 23.35 Pct
South_Asian 1.85 Pct
East_African 0.64 Pct
Southwest_Asian 3.29 Pct
East_Asian 12.77 Pct
Caucasus 8.10 Pct
Sub_Saharan 2.54 Pct
25% Siberian + Southeast Asian + East Asian
=
72.2% of the total score from Eurogenes.
vbnetkhio
10-15-2020, 08:55 PM
Nah, I think it's just an unbalanced proportion between North Atlantic and Baltic that is being produced by K13. I didn't notice the same on K36 for example. My mom experiences the same with her original unimputed data.
Mama_OG,19.44,37.30,15.60,10.04,13.19,0.47,0.95,1. 49,0.28,0.41,0.82,0,0
those 6 persons all tested on the new chips?
Varda
10-15-2020, 11:11 PM
Does somebody have Bosniak sample from Stolac (Herzegovina)?
Ali Pasha Rizvanbegović had a harem with plenty Georgian women which he buyed in Istanbul. He considered Georgian women for the most beautiful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Pasha_Rizvanbegović
Is this Milenko not the eponymous TA user? :)
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.76
2 North_Atlantic 22.32
3 East_Med 17.75
4 West_Med 15.57
5 West_Asian 9.33
6 Red_Sea 1.76
7 Siberian 1.54
8 East_Asian 0.34
9 Oceanian 0.32
10 South_Asian 0.31
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.57
2 Romanian 6.32
3 Bulgarian 7.13
4 Moldavian 7.14
5 Croatian 9.79
6 Hungarian 11.37
7 Austrian 15.48
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.64
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.71
10 South_Polish 16.54
11 East_German 16.64
12 Ukrainian 16.7
13 Southwest_Russian 19.22
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.58
15 Polish 19.97
16 North_Italian 20.94
17 West_German 21.22
18 Tuscan 21.27
19 Russian_Smolensk 21.49
20 Tatar 21.65
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.1% Greek_Thessaly + 44.9% Southwest_Russian @ 1.78
2 73.6% Bulgarian + 26.4% Southwest_Russian @ 1.99
3 76.1% Bulgarian + 23.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.02
4 76.6% Bulgarian + 23.4% Belorussian @ 2.04
5 50.9% Estonian_Polish + 49.1% Central_Greek @ 2.1
6 58.5% Southwest_Russian + 41.5% South_Italian @ 2.14
7 79.8% Bulgarian + 20.2% Lithuanian @ 2.18
8 58.9% Greek_Thessaly + 41.1% Belorussian @ 2.25
9 58.3% Greek_Thessaly + 41.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.27
10 50.2% Belorussian + 49.8% Central_Greek @ 2.27
11 63.4% Greek_Thessaly + 36.6% Lithuanian @ 2.29
12 54.1% Southwest_Russian + 45.9% Central_Greek @ 2.29
13 55.4% Estonian_Polish + 44.6% South_Italian @ 2.3
14 59.7% Ukrainian + 40.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.31
15 55.6% Greek_Thessaly + 44.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.32
16 76% Bulgarian + 24% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.34
17 54.4% Central_Greek + 45.6% Lithuanian @ 2.35
18 50.1% Lithuanian + 49.9% South_Italian @ 2.38
19 78.2% Bulgarian + 21.8% Erzya @ 2.39
20 77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.42
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 18.54
2 Baltic 17.8
3 East_Med 15.43
4 Eastern_Euro 14.04
5 Atlantic 12.4
6 West_Med 11.85
7 West_Asian 7.68
8 Red_Sea 1.47
9 Siberian 0.69
10 Oceanian 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.79
2 Romanian 6.45
3 Moldavian 7.69
4 Bulgarian 8.18
5 Croatian 10.15
6 Hungarian 10.15
7 Austrian 12.09
8 Greek_Thessaly 13.52
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.7
10 Greek 15.18
11 East_German 15.23
12 Ukrainian 15.41
13 South_Polish 15.56
14 Polish 18.15
15 Tuscan 18.19
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.28
17 North_Italian 18.42
18 Russian_Smolensk 18.68
19 Southwest_Russian 18.72
20 Ashkenazi 19.18
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.9% Ukrainian + 36.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.38
2 62.8% Greek_Thessaly + 37.2% Estonian @ 3.46
3 56.8% Ukrainian + 43.2% Central_Greek @ 3.59
4 53.5% Greek_Thessaly + 46.5% Ukrainian @ 3.63
5 61.1% Greek_Thessaly + 38.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.68
6 58.5% Greek_Thessaly + 41.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.71
7 60.9% Ukrainian + 39.1% South_Italian @ 3.75
8 68.7% Ukrainian + 31.3% Cyprian @ 3.76
9 65% Ukrainian + 35% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.81
10 55.7% Ukrainian + 44.3% Ashkenazi @ 3.82
11 57.8% Greek_Thessaly + 42.2% Polish @ 3.94
12 52.8% Central_Greek + 47.2% Estonian @ 3.94
13 85.6% Moldavian + 14.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.97
14 58% Ukrainian + 42% East_Sicilian @ 3.97
15 53.8% Greek_Thessaly + 46.2% South_Polish @ 4.03
16 82.5% Moldavian + 17.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.03
17 61.7% Greek_Thessaly + 38.3% East_Finnish @ 4.05
18 64.9% Ukrainian + 35.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.07
19 80.3% Moldavian + 19.7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.1
20 58% Greek_Thessaly + 42% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.1
MDLP K23b Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 34.57
2 Caucasian 34.37
3 European_Early_Farmers 14.63
4 Near_East 4.72
5 South_Central_Asian 3.76
6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.46
7 North_African 1.98
8 Amerindian 1.19
9 South_Indian 0.78
10 Tungus-Altaic 0.55
11 African_Pygmy 0.32
12 Paleo_Siberian 0.3
13 Austronesian 0.18
14 South_East_Asian 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croat_BH ( ) 3.54
2 Bosnian ( ) 3.86
3 Serb_BH ( ) 4.39
4 Croat ( ) 4.56
5 Macedonian ( ) 5.34
6 Montenegrian ( ) 5.36
7 Bulgarian ( ) 5.71
8 Serb_Serbia ( ) 7.02
9 Romanian ( ) 7.69
10 Gagauz ( ) 9.97
11 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 10
12 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 10
13 Ukrainian_West ( ) 10.05
14 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 10.09
15 Czech ( ) 10.89
16 Slovenian ( ) 11.15
17 Ukrainian_Center ( ) 11.19
18 Slovak ( ) 11.31
19 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 11.44
20 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 11.53
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.5% Russian-West ( ) + 48.5% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 1.32
2 52.7% Greek ( ) + 47.3% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 1.34
3 50% Russian_South ( ) + 50% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.39
4 50.7% Greek ( ) + 49.3% Russian-West ( ) @ 1.41
5 50.6% Greek_Athens ( ) + 49.4% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 1.43
6 51.3% Greek_Athens ( ) + 48.7% Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) @ 1.48
7 59.9% Central_Greek ( ) + 40.1% Latvian ( ) @ 1.5
8 60.3% Ukrainian_West ( ) + 39.7% Greek ( ) @ 1.5
9 53.1% Kashub ( ) + 46.9% Greek_Macedonia ( ) @ 1.51
10 56.9% Greek_Athens ( ) + 43.1% Estonian ( ) @ 1.53
11 62.3% Ukrainian_West ( ) + 37.7% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 1.56
12 88.2% Bosnian ( ) + 11.8% Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) @ 1.57
13 87% Bosnian ( ) + 13% Georgian_Jew ( ) @ 1.57
14 53.2% Russian-West ( ) + 46.8% Italian_South ( ) @ 1.57
15 67.4% Ukrainian_West ( ) + 32.6% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 1.58
16 51.1% Belarusian-East ( ) + 48.9% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.58
17 85.3% Croat_BH ( ) + 14.7% Turk_Adana ( ) @ 1.59
18 88.1% Croat_BH ( ) + 11.9% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 1.59
19 55.4% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 44.6% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.6
20 53.4% Greek_Athens ( ) + 46.6% Balt ( ) @ 1.6
Varda
10-16-2020, 04:01 PM
Is this Milenko not the eponymous TA user? :)
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.76
2 North_Atlantic 22.32
3 East_Med 17.75
4 West_Med 15.57
5 West_Asian 9.33
6 Red_Sea 1.76
7 Siberian 1.54
8 East_Asian 0.34
9 Oceanian 0.32
10 South_Asian 0.31
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.57
2 Romanian 6.32
3 Bulgarian 7.13
4 Moldavian 7.14
5 Croatian 9.79
6 Hungarian 11.37
7 Austrian 15.48
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.64
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.71
10 South_Polish 16.54
11 East_German 16.64
12 Ukrainian 16.7
13 Southwest_Russian 19.22
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.58
15 Polish 19.97
16 North_Italian 20.94
17 West_German 21.22
18 Tuscan 21.27
19 Russian_Smolensk 21.49
20 Tatar 21.65
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.1% Greek_Thessaly + 44.9% Southwest_Russian @ 1.78
2 73.6% Bulgarian + 26.4% Southwest_Russian @ 1.99
3 76.1% Bulgarian + 23.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.02
4 76.6% Bulgarian + 23.4% Belorussian @ 2.04
5 50.9% Estonian_Polish + 49.1% Central_Greek @ 2.1
6 58.5% Southwest_Russian + 41.5% South_Italian @ 2.14
7 79.8% Bulgarian + 20.2% Lithuanian @ 2.18
8 58.9% Greek_Thessaly + 41.1% Belorussian @ 2.25
9 58.3% Greek_Thessaly + 41.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.27
10 50.2% Belorussian + 49.8% Central_Greek @ 2.27
11 63.4% Greek_Thessaly + 36.6% Lithuanian @ 2.29
12 54.1% Southwest_Russian + 45.9% Central_Greek @ 2.29
13 55.4% Estonian_Polish + 44.6% South_Italian @ 2.3
14 59.7% Ukrainian + 40.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.31
15 55.6% Greek_Thessaly + 44.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.32
16 76% Bulgarian + 24% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.34
17 54.4% Central_Greek + 45.6% Lithuanian @ 2.35
18 50.1% Lithuanian + 49.9% South_Italian @ 2.38
19 78.2% Bulgarian + 21.8% Erzya @ 2.39
20 77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.42
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 18.54
2 Baltic 17.8
3 East_Med 15.43
4 Eastern_Euro 14.04
5 Atlantic 12.4
6 West_Med 11.85
7 West_Asian 7.68
8 Red_Sea 1.47
9 Siberian 0.69
10 Oceanian 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.79
2 Romanian 6.45
3 Moldavian 7.69
4 Bulgarian 8.18
5 Croatian 10.15
6 Hungarian 10.15
7 Austrian 12.09
8 Greek_Thessaly 13.52
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.7
10 Greek 15.18
11 East_German 15.23
12 Ukrainian 15.41
13 South_Polish 15.56
14 Polish 18.15
15 Tuscan 18.19
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.28
17 North_Italian 18.42
18 Russian_Smolensk 18.68
19 Southwest_Russian 18.72
20 Ashkenazi 19.18
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.9% Ukrainian + 36.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.38
2 62.8% Greek_Thessaly + 37.2% Estonian @ 3.46
3 56.8% Ukrainian + 43.2% Central_Greek @ 3.59
4 53.5% Greek_Thessaly + 46.5% Ukrainian @ 3.63
5 61.1% Greek_Thessaly + 38.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.68
6 58.5% Greek_Thessaly + 41.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.71
7 60.9% Ukrainian + 39.1% South_Italian @ 3.75
8 68.7% Ukrainian + 31.3% Cyprian @ 3.76
9 65% Ukrainian + 35% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.81
10 55.7% Ukrainian + 44.3% Ashkenazi @ 3.82
11 57.8% Greek_Thessaly + 42.2% Polish @ 3.94
12 52.8% Central_Greek + 47.2% Estonian @ 3.94
13 85.6% Moldavian + 14.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.97
14 58% Ukrainian + 42% East_Sicilian @ 3.97
15 53.8% Greek_Thessaly + 46.2% South_Polish @ 4.03
16 82.5% Moldavian + 17.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.03
17 61.7% Greek_Thessaly + 38.3% East_Finnish @ 4.05
18 64.9% Ukrainian + 35.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.07
19 80.3% Moldavian + 19.7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.1
20 58% Greek_Thessaly + 42% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.1
MDLP K23b Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 34.57
2 Caucasian 34.37
3 European_Early_Farmers 14.63
4 Near_East 4.72
5 South_Central_Asian 3.76
6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.46
7 North_African 1.98
8 Amerindian 1.19
9 South_Indian 0.78
10 Tungus-Altaic 0.55
11 African_Pygmy 0.32
12 Paleo_Siberian 0.3
13 Austronesian 0.18
14 South_East_Asian 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croat_BH ( ) 3.54
2 Bosnian ( ) 3.86
3 Serb_BH ( ) 4.39
4 Croat ( ) 4.56
5 Macedonian ( ) 5.34
6 Montenegrian ( ) 5.36
7 Bulgarian ( ) 5.71
8 Serb_Serbia ( ) 7.02
9 Romanian ( ) 7.69
10 Gagauz ( ) 9.97
11 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 10
12 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 10
13 Ukrainian_West ( ) 10.05
14 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 10.09
15 Czech ( ) 10.89
16 Slovenian ( ) 11.15
17 Ukrainian_Center ( ) 11.19
18 Slovak ( ) 11.31
19 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 11.44
20 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 11.53
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.5% Russian-West ( ) + 48.5% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 1.32
2 52.7% Greek ( ) + 47.3% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 1.34
3 50% Russian_South ( ) + 50% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.39
4 50.7% Greek ( ) + 49.3% Russian-West ( ) @ 1.41
5 50.6% Greek_Athens ( ) + 49.4% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 1.43
6 51.3% Greek_Athens ( ) + 48.7% Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) @ 1.48
7 59.9% Central_Greek ( ) + 40.1% Latvian ( ) @ 1.5
8 60.3% Ukrainian_West ( ) + 39.7% Greek ( ) @ 1.5
9 53.1% Kashub ( ) + 46.9% Greek_Macedonia ( ) @ 1.51
10 56.9% Greek_Athens ( ) + 43.1% Estonian ( ) @ 1.53
11 62.3% Ukrainian_West ( ) + 37.7% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 1.56
12 88.2% Bosnian ( ) + 11.8% Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) @ 1.57
13 87% Bosnian ( ) + 13% Georgian_Jew ( ) @ 1.57
14 53.2% Russian-West ( ) + 46.8% Italian_South ( ) @ 1.57
15 67.4% Ukrainian_West ( ) + 32.6% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 1.58
16 51.1% Belarusian-East ( ) + 48.9% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.58
17 85.3% Croat_BH ( ) + 14.7% Turk_Adana ( ) @ 1.59
18 88.1% Croat_BH ( ) + 11.9% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 1.59
19 55.4% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 44.6% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.6
20 53.4% Greek_Athens ( ) + 46.6% Balt ( ) @ 1.6
Milenko TA user score around 29% Baltic from what I remember. That is some other Milenko.
Milenko TA user score around 29% Baltic from what I remember. That is some other Milenko.
You are right, the haplogroups are U2e2 and I2a2.
I'd like to see Pribislav's results :p
CommonSense
10-16-2020, 11:56 PM
An enthusiast from the Bosniak DNA project facebook page made two charts based on known verified and catelogued Y-DNA for Bosniaks from Bosnia and Sandžak. For Bosnia he made a breakdown of historical regions and listed the Y-DNA results for each of them. In Sandžak the divide was made both by dialect and by each individual municipality. He also made a K15 PCA of Bosniaks from Bosnia and Sandžakians along with a few Pomaks and Torbeshi, with a rather handy addition of ancient samples relevant to the ancestry of modern Balkanites.
https://s12.directupload.net/images/201001/e9cg6abo.jpg
https://s12.directupload.net/images/201002/klm8dn4t.jpg
https://s12.directupload.net/images/201016/ox75whu3.jpg
I'm suprised how northern Bosniaks from BiH cluster is on K15, very much like Croats (but more northern than Dalmatian cluster would be), with only few closer to Serbs.
Those are basically central Europeans mainly.
Ion Basescul
10-17-2020, 12:05 AM
An etnhusiast from the Bosniak DNA project facebook page made two charts based on known verified and catelogued Y-DNA for Bosniaks from Bosnia and Sandžak. For Bosnia he made a breakdown of historical regions and listed the Y-DNA results for each of them. In Sandžak the divide was made both by dialect and by each individual municipality. He also made a K15 PCA of Bosniaks from Bosnia and Sandžakians along with a few Pomaks and Torbeshi, with a rather handy addition of ancient samples relevant to the ancestry of modern Balkanites.
https://s12.directupload.net/images/201002/klm8dn4t.jpg
Highest E-V13 rate in Bosnia happens to be a place called Romanija. E-Vlach confirmed? :lol:
CommonSense
10-17-2020, 12:09 AM
Highest E-V13 rate in Bosnia happens to be a place called Romanija. E-Vlach confirmed? :lol:
Anegdote: The only autosomal result of a Bosniak from that rigion that I know of plots very close to Serbs, but for some reason raw data gave him an inflated Oceanian/Papuan score. Too bad he deleted or hid his gedmatch kit. Oh, and his Y-DNA is J-M241.
Ion Basescul
10-17-2020, 12:39 AM
Anegdote: The only autosomal result of a Bosniak from that rigion that I know of plots very close to Serbs, but for some reason raw data gave him an inflated Oceanian/Papuan score. Too bad he deleted or hid his gedmatch kit. Oh, and his Y-DNA is J-M241.
Probably an Australian at heart
Ion Basescul
10-17-2020, 09:56 PM
those 6 persons all tested on the new chips?
Botosani, Edinet and Chisinau are on 23andme v5, while Balti, and 2 Bucuresti (from Behar) are academic samples.
Duan
10-17-2020, 10:03 PM
I'm suprised how northern Bosniaks from BiH cluster is on K15, very much like Croats (but more northern than Dalmatian cluster would be), with only few closer to Serbs.
Those are basically central Europeans mainly.
I noticed that too.
Peterski
10-23-2020, 07:10 PM
Not South Slavic, but... - https://lundiak.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/atdna-3-ethnicity-admixture/#more-1069
"My family ancestry is mostly from West part of Ukraine I was born in village Molodkiv in region called Galicia (Galychyna/Halychyna) near Pokuttya (Pokucie). I trace my genealogy approximately till ~1730 years, and no official relations with other countries whatsoever."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokuttya
https://lundiak.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/eurogenes-k13-4-ancestors-oracle1.jpg
vbnetkhio
10-23-2020, 07:15 PM
Not South Slavic, but... - https://lundiak.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/atdna-3-ethnicity-admixture/#more-1069
"My family ancestry is mostly from West part of Ukraine – I was born in village Molodkiv in region called Galicia (Galychyna/Halychyna) near Pokuttya (Pokucie). I trace my genealogy approximately till ~1730 years, and no “official” relations with other countries whatsoever."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokuttya
https://lundiak.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/eurogenes-k13-4-ancestors-oracle1.jpg
there was already thread about these results long ago.
Abriekman
10-23-2020, 07:19 PM
Not South Slavic, but... - https://lundiak.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/atdna-3-ethnicity-admixture/#more-1069
"My family ancestry is mostly from West part of Ukraine – I was born in village Molodkiv in region called Galicia (Galychyna/Halychyna) near Pokuttya (Pokucie). I trace my genealogy approximately till ~1730 years, and no “official” relations with other countries whatsoever."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokuttya
https://lundiak.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/eurogenes-k13-4-ancestors-oracle1.jpg
Romanian admix?
Peterski
10-23-2020, 07:31 PM
Romanian admix?
No. They score like typical Carpathian Rusyns.
Carpathian Rusyn genetics is on both sides of the Carpathian Mountains.
there was already thread about these results long ago.
Yeah I just found it.
Their admixture proportions are no different than Carpathian Rusyns.
So this type of genetics exists also in areas north of the Carpathians.
Abriekman
10-23-2020, 07:32 PM
No. They score like typical Carpathian Rusyns.
do you have their 23andme results?
Peterski
10-23-2020, 07:35 PM
do you have their 23andme results?
I have only what he posted here:
https://lundiak.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/atdna-3-ethnicity-admixture/#more-1069
And GEDmatch Eurogenes results.
there was already thread about these results long ago.
Yes. This (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?298838-Southwestern-Ukrainian-and-almost-identical-to-Croats) for those who haven't seen. Meanwhile the guy has deleted his Gedmatch but all the relevant calculators are in that thread.
I have only what he posted here:
https://lundiak.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/atdna-3-ethnicity-admixture/#more-1069
And GEDmatch Eurogenes results.
He tested with FTDNA and uploaded to MyHeritage, he hasn't done 23andme.
vbnetkhio
10-23-2020, 07:43 PM
No. They score like typical Carpathian Rusyns.
maybe not recent Romanian ancestry, but Rusyns are Romanian admixed in general
Peterski
10-23-2020, 07:53 PM
maybe not recent Romanian ancestry, but Rusyns are Romanian admixed in general
This guy is Ukrainian nobody has heard about "Rusyns" north of the Carpathians except for the Polish census of 1931.
These guys are from Nadwórna County - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadvirna_Raion
Ethnic composition of Nadwórna County from Polish 1931 census (but division into Ukrainians & Rusyns was artificial):
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Woj.stanis%C5%82awowskie-Polska_spis_powszechny_1931.pdf
^^^
See Tabl. 12. Ludność według płci i języka ojczystego (mother tongue):
Total population - 140,702
Polish - 16,907
Ukrainian - 93,039
Rusyn - 19,089
Jewish - 11,020
German - 343
Russian - 30
Czech - 12
Belarusian - 5
Other - 37
Not given - 220
======
You can compare with this Ukrainian point of view: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?334533-Book-quot-Ethnic-groups-of-South-West-Ukraine-in-1939-quot
Abriekman
10-23-2020, 08:04 PM
maybe not recent Romanian ancestry, but Rusyns are Romanian admixed in general
probably admixed with Hungarians also
vbnetkhio
10-23-2020, 08:06 PM
This guy is Ukrainian nobody has heard about "Rusyns" north of the Carpathians except for the Polish census of 1931.
These guys are from Nadwórna County - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadvirna_Raion
Ethnic composition of Nadwórna County from Polish 1931 census (but division into Ukrainians & Rusyns was artificial):
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Woj.stanis%C5%82awowskie-Polska_spis_powszechny_1931.pdf
^^^
See Tabl. 12. Ludność według płci i języka ojczystego (mother tongue):
Total population - 140,702
Polish - 16,907
Ukrainian - 93,039
Rusyn - 19,089
Jewish - 11,020
German - 343
Russian - 30
Czech - 12
Belarusian - 5
Other - 37
Not given - 220
======
You can compare with this Ukrainian point of view: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?334533-Book-quot-Ethnic-groups-of-South-West-Ukraine-in-1939-quot
yes you are right.
i thought he declares as a Rusyn, i mixed him up with that hawklutz guy who scores similarly to him.
Ukrainians from Ivano Frankivsk and Chernivtsi are Romanian admixed too.
Peterski
10-23-2020, 08:06 PM
probably admixed with Hungarians also
They look just like typical Carpathian Rusyns based on Eurogenes K36.
I don't think there were ever large numbers of Hungarians in that area.
=====
This is for the whole Stanyslaviv (Ivano-Frankivsk) Voivodeship, 1931:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/1931_Census_of_Poland%2C_Stanislaw_Voivod%2C_table _10_Ludnosc-Population-pg.22.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/1931_Census_of_Poland%2C_Stanislaw_Voivod%2C_table _10_Ludnosc-Population-pg.22.jpg
Abriekman
10-23-2020, 08:18 PM
They look just like typical Carpathian Rusyns based on Eurogenes K36.
I don't think there were ever large numbers of Hungarians in that area.
=====
This is for the whole Stanyslaviv (Ivano-Frankivsk) Voivodeship, 1931:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/1931_Census_of_Poland%2C_Stanislaw_Voivod%2C_table _10_Ludnosc-Population-pg.22.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/1931_Census_of_Poland%2C_Stanislaw_Voivod%2C_table _10_Ludnosc-Population-pg.22.jpg
They admixed with Magyars a long time ago. Rusyn = Ukrainian + Romanian + Hungarian
Peterski
10-23-2020, 08:20 PM
Stanyslaviv (Ivano-Frankivsk) Voivodeship, 1921 census:
https://i.imgur.com/aS3wBf8.png
Abriekman
10-23-2020, 08:27 PM
Stanyslaviv (Ivano-Frankivsk) Voivodeship, 1921 census:
https://i.imgur.com/aS3wBf8.png
Carpathian Rusyns are mixed Slavo-Balkano-Magyar people genetically
Peterski
10-23-2020, 08:28 PM
yes you are right.
i thought he declares as a Rusyn, i mixed him up with that hawklutz guy who scores similarly to him.
Is there any Rusyn identity in Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopil and Lviv Oblasts?
Or is it limited just to Zakarpattia Oblast?
Peterski
10-23-2020, 08:28 PM
Carpathian Rusyns are mixed Slavo-Balkano-Magyar people genetically
So are Ukrainians in large part.
I don't think anyone in East Galicia identifies as "Rusyn".
Abriekman
10-23-2020, 08:51 PM
So are Ukrainians in large part.
I don't think anyone in East Galicia identifies as "Rusyn".
Now nobody in Ukraine does not identify as something else except Ukrainian unfortunately because of Nationalism poltics
Varda
10-23-2020, 08:51 PM
In 1771-74 some Dalmatian Serbs settled in Galicia. There are links about that, but on Serbian.
Varda
10-23-2020, 09:02 PM
In 1771-74 some Dalmatian Serbs settled in Galicia. There are links about that, but on Serbian.
303 families. For Yugo users.
https://www.poreklo.rs/2013/02/14/seobe-dalmatinskih-srba-drugi-deo/
https://www.benkovac.rs/apendix_single.php?apendix_id=86&dcontent_id=20 (http://www.benkovac.rs/apendix_single.php?apendix_id=86&dcontent_id=20)
Aspirin
10-23-2020, 09:37 PM
Not South Slavic, but... - https://lundiak.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/atdna-3-ethnicity-admixture/#more-1069
"My family ancestry is mostly from West part of Ukraine I was born in village Molodkiv in region called Galicia (Galychyna/Halychyna) near Pokuttya (Pokucie). I trace my genealogy approximately till ~1730 years, and no official relations with other countries whatsoever."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokuttya
https://lundiak.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/eurogenes-k13-4-ancestors-oracle1.jpg
It seems what southern admixture is not uniform in Carpathians, and can variate in different areas regardless if is North or South. These are the first results from this area who I saw, and are still the most southern ones, especially knowing what this person originate from a village located 5 km from Polish border, and is the most northern geographically compared to other samples.
K13
1 Baltic 34.92
2 North_Atlantic 26.87
3 West_Med 15.12
4 East_Med 15.09
5 West_Asian 5
6 East_Asian 0.88
7 Northeast_African 0.67
8 Amerindian 0.52
9 Siberian 0.4
10 Red_Sea 0.32
11 Oceanian 0.22
Least-squares method:
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Croatian @ 6,860456
2 Moldavian @ 7,886959
3 Hungarian @ 8,974471
4 Serbian @ 9,469107
5 South_Polish @ 12,745112
6 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 12,862446
7 Ukrainian @ 13,268209
8 Romanian @ 13,403067
9 Austrian @ 13,759909
10 East_German @ 14,04709
11 Bulgarian @ 15,384614
12 Polish @ 16,578473
13 Southwest_Russian @ 16,859848
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 17,684521
15 Russian_Smolensk @ 18,862002
16 Estonian_Polish @ 18,94036
17 Belorussian @ 19,403739
18 West_German @ 21,725138
19 Kargopol_Russian @ 21,87295
20 Southwest_Finnish @ 22,250612
These are his 23andme results:
https://i.imgur.com/RReJJeA.png
And these are the results of his wife, she is from the same area:
https://i.imgur.com/MAunbce.png
Ion Basescul
10-23-2020, 09:43 PM
In 1771-74 some Dalmatian Serbs settled in Galicia. There are links about that, but on Serbian.
God is also Serbian btw.
Ion Basescul
10-23-2020, 09:49 PM
It seems what southern admixture is not uniform in Carpathians, and can variate in different areas regardless if is North or South. These are the first results from this area who I saw, and are still the most southern ones, especially knowing what this person originate from a village located 5 km from Polish border, and is the most northern geographically compared to other samples.
These are his 23andme results:
And these are the results of his wife, she is from the same area:
There are also these from my matches
3/4 Lviv, 1/4 Ternopil
https://i.ibb.co/vYYmMHg/image.png
1/2 Ternopil, 1/2 Ivano-Frankivsk
https://i.ibb.co/2nYrNZd/image.png
Abriekman
10-23-2020, 09:50 PM
There are also these from my matches
3/4 Lviv, 1/4 Ternopil
https://i.ibb.co/vYYmMHg/image.png
1/2 Ternopil, 1/2 Ivano-Frankivsk
https://i.ibb.co/2nYrNZd/image.png
are that results on 5.9?
Ion Basescul
10-23-2020, 09:56 PM
are that results on 5.9?
No
Varda
10-23-2020, 09:58 PM
God is also Serbian btw.
No, God is God.
"God is a Serb", is phrase created by Serbian enemies.
Btw in documents from 1771-74 is written that 303 Serbian families from Dalmatia moved in Austrian part of Poland. It's Galicia in present day Ukraine. Galicia had nothing to do with Ukraine 250 years ago.
vbnetkhio
10-24-2020, 07:31 AM
It seems what southern admixture is not uniform in Carpathians, and can variate in different areas regardless if is North or South. These are the first results from this area who I saw, and are still the most southern ones, especially knowing what this person originate from a village located 5 km from Polish border, and is the most northern geographically compared to other samples.
Leto found a guy from Lviv with 30 Baltic.
Duan
10-24-2020, 08:27 AM
God is also Serbian btw.
That migration really happened.
No need to be ironic.
Leto found a guy from Lviv with 30 Baltic.
Did I? I don't remember. Probably part Jewish or something. Unless you're talking about 38-39% Baltic, not literally 30.
vbnetkhio
10-24-2020, 09:03 AM
Did I? I don't remember. Probably part Jewish or something. Unless you're talking about 38-39% Baltic, not literally 30.
i remember he had less than me, 31 maybe.
Peterski
10-24-2020, 09:10 AM
i remember he had less than me, 31 maybe.
And you still think that modern West Ukrainians are the same as Early Slavs?
Dirdepo
10-24-2020, 09:18 AM
And you still think that modern West Ukrainians are the same as Early Slavs?
We are Balts so we are Slavs
Are Germans Slavs no
Peterski
10-24-2020, 09:20 AM
We are Balts so we are Slavs
Are Germans Slavs no
I want to smoke the same shit you do. :D
We are Balts so we are Slavs
Are Germans Slavs no
Cumansky suka, get outta here. I can't stop reporting you.
Dirdepo
10-24-2020, 09:24 AM
Cumansky suka, get outta here. I can't stop reporting you.
Stfu, who is that?
Stfu, who is that?
It's you fucking clown that has been banned here like 10 times and still won't disappear.
vbnetkhio
10-24-2020, 09:27 AM
And you still think that modern West Ukrainians are the same as Early Slavs?
i think most of them are, that man was probably a Rusyn living in Lviv
Dirdepo
10-24-2020, 09:30 AM
i think most of them are, that man was probably a Rusyn living in Lviv
Maybe but alot of Jews lived in Lwow, my Jewish line is from there
KGB out tho ^ they watch me still
Peterski
10-24-2020, 09:33 AM
i think most of them are, that man was probably a Rusyn living in Lviv
I don't think so, I'm going to reply to your thread about Early Slavic average.
I mean, do you realize that West Ukrainians are more western-shifted than a large percentage of Poles?
Do you think that Baltic admixture is so common in Poland?
Because if West Ukrainians are pure Slavs then Poles from many areas must be heavily mixed with Balts.
Abriekman
10-24-2020, 09:36 AM
I don't think so, I'm going to reply to your thread about Early Slavic average.
I mean, do you realize that West Ukrainians are more western-shifted than a large percentage of Poles?
Do you think that Baltic admixture is so common in Poland?
Because if West Ukrainians are pure Slavs then Poles from many areas must be heavily mixed with Balts.
How can West Ukrainian be more western-shifted than Poles? Poles are Slavic peoples + East Germanic peoples. There is almost no Celto-Germanic influence in modern territory of Ukraine
vbnetkhio
10-24-2020, 10:33 AM
I don't think so, I'm going to reply to your thread about Early Slavic average.
I mean, do you realize that West Ukrainians are more western-shifted than a large percentage of Poles?
Do you think that Baltic admixture is so common in Poland?
Because if West Ukrainians are pure Slavs then Poles from many areas must be heavily mixed with Balts.
how do you know that? we don't have enough Polish and Ukrainian regional data. i mean, there are many kits on gedmatch, but nobody has checked all of them yet and organized them into averages.
The old Eurogenes averages seem ok, (west) Ukrainians are 27/43 NA/Baltic, and Poles are 30/45, so they are slightly Germanic and Baltic shifted comapred to west Ukrainians.
Abriekman
10-24-2020, 11:55 AM
Do you think my K13 East-West Slavic side looks normal for being 68,75% Polish in Podolia 18,75% Russian ( with Uralic admix ) ?
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 19.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.43
2 83.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 16.6% Central_Greek @ 2.49
3 83.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 16.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.54
4 73.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 26.3% Bulgarian @ 2.59
5 85.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 14.9% South_Italian @ 2.61
6 52.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 47.2% Moldavian @ 2.68
7 86.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 13.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.7
8 83.9% Estonian_Polish + 16.1% Armenian @ 2.73
9 84% Russian_Smolensk + 16% Cyprian @ 2.77
10 84.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 15.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.84
11 87.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 12.3% Cyprian @ 2.88
12 85.1% Russian_Smolensk + 14.9% Armenian @ 2.89
13 85% Russian_Smolensk + 15% Assyrian @ 2.92
14 86.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 13.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.94
15 84.9% Russian_Smolensk + 15.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.98
16 72.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 27.4% Romanian @ 2.99
17 86.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 13.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3
18 83.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 16.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.02
19 83.8% Estonian_Polish + 16.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.03
20 84.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 15.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.03
Peterski
10-24-2020, 12:53 PM
How can West Ukrainian be more western-shifted than Poles?
They are more western-shifted than Poles from Mazowieckie, Podlaskie, as well as parts of Lubelskie, Warminsko-Mazurskie, Swietokrzyskie & Lodzkie.
Poles from Podlaskie for example (except western parts of Podlaskie around Łomża) are very close to Belarusians and to Lithuanians in some cases.
2 new samples for Croatian averages.
From Zagorje, north-western Croatia:
Croat_Zagorje,32.02,36.28,12.94,2.90,12.11,1.28,0, 0,2.0 4,0,0.38,0,0
Distance to: Croat_Zagorje
4.61402211 Hungarian_Northern
5.44199412 Slovenian
5.62520222 Croat_Croatia_Central
5.88717023 Slovak
6.31282029 Hungarian_Alfold
6.35053541 Hungarian
6.41014820 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
6.51995399 Czech
6.64616431 Hungarian_Transdanubia
6.68881903 Hungarian_Budapest
6.69258545 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
7.00524090 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
7.12416311 Croat_Croatia
7.41618500 Croat
7.75465022 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
8.42048692 Croat_B&H_Bosnia_proper
8.54805826 Sorb_Lusatia
8.55039180 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
8.75580950 Croat_Croatia_Istria_&_Kvarner
9.13672261 Bosniak_Bosnia_proper
9.28945639 German_East
9.37631058 Moldova_North
9.47611207 South_Polish
9.48634281 Croat_B&H
9.87848166 Hungarian_Transylvania
Target: Croat_Zagorje
Distance: 1.9467% / 1.94668903
34.6 Belorussian
27.6 Swiss_Italian
24.0 Southwest_Finnish
13.8 Pomak_Xanthi
From Dalmatia, southern Croatia:
Croat_Dalmatia,24.71,28.52,17.72,11.72,15.37,0.09, 0,0.5 5,0.77,0.24,0.21,0,0.07
Distance to: Croat_Dalmatia
3.12835420 Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia
3.16232509 Serb_Serbia
3.18832244 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
3.19178633 Serb
3.19649808 Serb
3.28085355 Romania_Crisana
3.39213797 Serb_B&H_Krajina
3.46801096 Serb_Croatia
3.65365570 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
3.65635064 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
3.69529430 Romania_Moldavia_South
3.71358318 Serb_Serbia_South&East
3.91629927 Moldova_average
3.96160321 Romania_Transylvania
3.99156611 Romania_Maramures
4.00049997 Serb_Croatia_Lika
4.01410015 Serb_B&H
4.25557282 Romania_average
4.33445498 Serb_B&H_Herzegovina
4.43986486 Montenegrin
4.59646603 Moldova_Centre
4.68157025 Romania_Moldavia_North
4.83109718 Bosniak
4.88555012 Romania_Oltenia
5.06887561 Romania_Banat
Target: Croat_Dalmatia
Distance: 1.0937% / 1.09369311
28.6 South_Polish
22.4 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
20.6 Greek_Northern-Thrace
10.2 Ukrainian
6.6 Abhkasian
4.6 French_Basque
3.8 Ukrainian_Belgorod
3.2 Sardinia
Croat, unknown regional ancestry, will add more info as soon as it's clarified:
Croat,25.62,34.66,13.45,6.47,15.67,0.2,0.66,1.05,0 ,1.6 2,0,0.6,0
Distance to: Croat
4.22287817 Croat_Croatia_Istria_&_Kvarner
4.37756782 Croat_B&H_Bosnia_proper
4.61376202 Croat_B&H
4.67749933 Bosniak_Bosnia_proper
4.70386012 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
4.80589222 Bosniak_Sarajevo
4.84903083 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
5.40404478 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
5.46968921 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.61745494 Bosniak
5.64738878 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
5.69117738 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
5.79350498 Croat
5.83537488 Romania_Moldavia_North
5.84069345 Moldova_North
6.15078857 Croat_Croatia
6.29603844 Bosniak_Krajina
6.34015773 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
6.40331945 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
6.40636402 Serb_B&H
6.64933079 Hungarian_Alfold
6.76153829 Serb_Croatia
6.79754367 Moldova_Centre
6.96440234 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
7.01181146 Romania_Maramures
Target: Croat
Distance: 1.4039% / 1.40393432
58.8 Pomak_Plovdiv
25.0 Sorb_Lusatia
9.8 Lithuanian
4.4 Ukrainian_Belgorod
1.0 Latvian
0.8 Karitiana
0.2 Dai
^^^^Person above has diverse regional ancestry, half descending from Dalmatian settlers to Slavonia, while other half is from Zagreb but is partly from Dalmatian Island of Hvar and from Lika region too. Thanks Moro! :)
Bosniak
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.14
2 North_Atlantic 28.73
3 East_Med 14.33
4 West_Med 14.08
5 West_Asian 5.71
6 Amerindian 2
7 Red_Sea 1.1
8 South_Asian 0.49
9 East_Asian 0.33
10 Sub-Saharan 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 5.49
2 Croatian 5.71
3 Moldavian 6.58
4 Serbian 7.07
5 Austrian 9.83
6 East_German 10.33
7 Romanian 10.85
8 South_Polish 11.28
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.45
10 Ukrainian 12.23
11 Bulgarian 13.05
12 Polish 14.73
13 Southwest_Russian 15.64
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.22
15 West_German 16.6
16 Russian_Smolensk 17.13
17 Estonian_Polish 17.38
18 Belorussian 17.75
19 South_Dutch 18.04
20 Southwest_Finnish 18.91
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.1% Belorussian + 41.9% Tuscan @ 3.04
2 52.2% Lithuanian + 47.8% Tuscan @ 3.12
3 58.7% Estonian_Polish + 41.3% Tuscan @ 3.2
4 77.5% South_Polish + 22.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.4
5 57.2% Estonian + 42.8% West_Sicilian @ 3.54
6 66.4% Polish + 33.6% West_Sicilian @ 3.57
7 59.2% Southwest_Russian + 40.8% North_Italian @ 3.59
8 72.5% South_Polish + 27.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.59
9 59.1% Russian_Smolensk + 40.9% Tuscan @ 3.61
10 72.1% Polish + 27.9% Italian_Jewish @ 3.62
11 74.2% Serbian + 25.8% Belorussian @ 3.65
12 77.7% Serbian + 22.3% Estonian @ 3.68
13 62.9% Polish + 37.1% Tuscan @ 3.68
14 73.8% Serbian + 26.2% Estonian_Polish @ 3.7
15 73.7% South_Polish + 26.3% Ashkenazi @ 3.7
16 61.4% Southwest_Russian + 38.6% Tuscan @ 3.71
17 67.5% Ukrainian + 32.5% Tuscan @ 3.76
18 78.7% Serbian + 21.3% Lithuanian @ 3.76
19 77.7% South_Polish + 22.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.76
20 70.4% Serbian + 29.6% Polish @ 3.77
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 23.47
2 Eastern_Euro 17.49
3 Baltic 16.43
4 Atlantic 13.4
5 West_Med 11.68
6 East_Med 10.72
7 West_Asian 4.43
8 Amerindian 1.27
9 Red_Sea 1.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 7.34
2 Serbian 7.85
3 Moldavian 7.91
4 Croatian 9.32
5 Austrian 10.56
6 East_German 11
7 Romanian 11.6
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.29
9 Ukrainian 12.38
10 South_Polish 12.89
11 Bulgarian 14.22
12 Polish 14.97
13 West_German 15.49
14 Southwest_Finnish 15.51
15 Finnish 15.81
16 South_Dutch 16.49
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.68
18 East_Finnish 16.71
19 Southwest_Russian 16.74
20 Russian_Smolensk 16.86
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.1% Serbian + 24.9% East_Finnish @ 5.88
2 74.3% Serbian + 25.7% Finnish @ 5.99
3 68.4% Serbian + 31.6% Ukrainian @ 6.04
4 78% Serbian + 22% Estonian @ 6.11
5 55.5% Finnish + 44.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.21
6 77.7% Serbian + 22.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 6.24
7 74.6% Moldavian + 25.4% West_German @ 6.26
8 54% East_Finnish + 46% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.26
9 80.1% Serbian + 19.9% Erzya @ 6.29
10 55.6% Hungarian + 44.4% Serbian @ 6.36
11 78.1% Serbian + 21.9% North_Swedish @ 6.38
12 69.8% Serbian + 30.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6.41
13 75.7% Serbian + 24.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 6.41
14 56.2% Southwest_Finnish + 43.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.47
15 91.2% Hungarian + 8.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 6.49
16 82.9% Moldavian + 17.1% West_Norwegian @ 6.57
17 93.1% Hungarian + 6.9% Samaritan @ 6.59
18 88.1% Hungarian + 11.9% Ashkenazi @ 6.59
19 93.3% Hungarian + 6.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.6
20 93.3% Hungarian + 6.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.6
Bosniak family
#1
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.52
2 North_Atlantic 28.27
3 West_Med 16.86
4 East_Med 15.26
5 West_Asian 8.69
6 Oceanian 1.16
7 East_Asian 1.09
8 Amerindian 0.14
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.31
2 Romanian 6.51
3 Moldavian 7.63
4 Hungarian 7.77
5 Bulgarian 8.85
6 Croatian 8.97
7 Austrian 10.44
8 East_German 12.01
9 West_German 15.42
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.53
11 South_Polish 15.54
12 Ukrainian 16.53
13 South_Dutch 17.02
14 Greek_Thessaly 17.05
15 French 17.15
16 North_Italian 17.73
17 Polish 19.32
18 Tuscan 19.77
19 North_German 20
20 Southwest_Russian 20.21
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.1% Bulgarian + 41.9% East_German @ 2.6
2 88.7% Serbian + 11.3% East_German @ 2.96
3 53.8% Hungarian + 46.2% Bulgarian @ 2.98
4 56.2% South_Polish + 43.8% Tuscan @ 3
5 54.6% Bulgarian + 45.4% Austrian @ 3.02
6 54.6% Ukrainian + 45.4% Tuscan @ 3.03
7 88.3% Serbian + 11.7% Austrian @ 3.03
8 84.7% Serbian + 15.3% Hungarian @ 3.04
9 92.3% Serbian + 7.7% South_Polish @ 3.05
10 87.1% Serbian + 12.9% Croatian @ 3.06
11 92.9% Serbian + 7.1% Ukrainian @ 3.07
12 95.9% Serbian + 4.1% La_Brana-1 @ 3.07
13 72.7% Bulgarian + 27.3% North_Swedish @ 3.08
14 95.1% Serbian + 4.9% Swedish @ 3.1
15 94.3% Serbian + 5.7% Polish @ 3.1
16 95.1% Serbian + 4.9% Southeast_English @ 3.11
17 95.1% Serbian + 4.9% North_Swedish @ 3.11
18 69.9% Croatian + 30.1% Tuscan @ 3.11
19 95.9% Serbian + 4.1% Estonian @ 3.11
20 95.6% Serbian + 4.4% Norwegian @ 3.12
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 22.17
2 Baltic 17.94
3 Atlantic 13.56
4 West_Med 13.16
5 East_Med 12.55
6 Eastern_Euro 12.54
7 West_Asian 6.93
8 Oceanian 0.92
9 Southeast_Asian 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.9
2 Moldavian 7.17
3 Hungarian 7.32
4 Romanian 8.01
5 Croatian 9.12
6 Austrian 10.42
7 Bulgarian 10.43
8 East_German 11.93
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.27
10 Ukrainian 13.98
11 South_Polish 14.17
12 Greek_Thessaly 15.47
13 West_German 15.65
14 South_Dutch 16.77
15 French 16.8
16 Polish 16.86
17 Greek 17.73
18 North_Italian 17.73
19 Russian_Smolensk 18.22
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.23
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.9% Hungarian + 29.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.97
2 74.8% Hungarian + 25.2% Greek @ 4.48
3 86.1% Hungarian + 13.9% Cyprian @ 4.5
4 79.1% Hungarian + 20.9% Central_Greek @ 4.52
5 52.8% Ukrainian + 47.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.56
6 57.9% Greek_Thessaly + 42.1% Estonian @ 4.57
7 81.8% Hungarian + 18.2% South_Italian @ 4.66
8 83.7% Hungarian + 16.3% Italian_Jewish @ 4.68
9 85.6% Hungarian + 14.4% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.69
10 84.3% Hungarian + 15.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.69
11 79.4% Hungarian + 20.6% Ashkenazi @ 4.75
12 80.3% Hungarian + 19.7% East_Sicilian @ 4.76
13 88.5% Hungarian + 11.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.77
14 55% Greek_Thessaly + 45% Finnish @ 4.8
15 88.2% Hungarian + 11.8% Samaritan @ 4.8
16 88.6% Hungarian + 11.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.87
17 62.9% Hungarian + 37.1% Bulgarian @ 4.91
18 52.5% South_Polish + 47.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.96
19 58.2% Ukrainian + 41.8% Tuscan @ 4.98
20 54% Hungarian + 46% Romanian @ 5.01
#2
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.43
2 North_Atlantic 27.98
3 East_Med 14.58
4 West_Med 13.14
5 West_Asian 9.6
6 Oceanian 1.26
7 East_Asian 0.59
8 Northeast_African 0.58
9 Amerindian 0.53
10 Red_Sea 0.23
11 South_Asian 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.25
2 Moldavian 5.8
3 Hungarian 6.07
4 Croatian 6.64
5 Romanian 8.8
6 Austrian 10.31
7 Bulgarian 11
8 East_German 11.42
9 South_Polish 12.6
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.65
11 Ukrainian 13.72
12 Polish 16.36
13 West_German 16.51
14 Southwest_Russian 16.78
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.97
16 South_Dutch 18.24
17 Russian_Smolensk 18.55
18 Estonian_Polish 19.12
19 Belorussian 19.41
20 North_German 19.56
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.1% South_Polish + 32.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.76
2 79.3% Serbian + 20.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.91
3 59.6% Romanian + 40.4% South_Polish @ 2.94
4 79.3% Serbian + 20.7% Southwest_Russian @ 2.99
5 71.4% South_Polish + 28.6% South_Italian @ 3
6 74.1% Serbian + 25.9% South_Polish @ 3.04
7 81.8% Serbian + 18.2% Belorussian @ 3.08
8 84.9% Serbian + 15.1% Lithuanian @ 3.08
9 68.3% South_Polish + 31.7% Central_Greek @ 3.1
10 74.4% South_Polish + 25.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.12
11 81.3% Serbian + 18.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.16
12 53.7% Bulgarian + 46.3% South_Polish @ 3.16
13 66% Bulgarian + 34% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.18
14 79.4% Serbian + 20.6% Polish @ 3.19
15 84.6% Serbian + 15.4% Estonian @ 3.21
16 73.7% Romanian + 26.3% Estonian @ 3.21
17 81.9% Serbian + 18.1% Estonian_Polish @ 3.22
18 76.3% Serbian + 23.7% Ukrainian @ 3.22
19 58.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.9% Tuscan @ 3.26
20 66.2% Romanian + 33.8% Polish @ 3.28
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 21.23
2 Baltic 18.71
3 Atlantic 14.92
4 Eastern_Euro 13.91
5 East_Med 11.95
6 West_Med 9.27
7 West_Asian 8.41
8 Oceanian 1.04
9 Northeast_African 0.47
10 Amerindian 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.63
2 Moldavian 5.8
3 Hungarian 6.19
4 Croatian 7.32
5 Romanian 7.99
6 Austrian 8.58
7 Bulgarian 10.7
8 East_German 11.26
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.62
10 South_Polish 12.07
11 Ukrainian 12.4
12 Polish 14.71
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.55
14 Russian_Smolensk 15.7
15 Southwest_Russian 15.94
16 West_German 16.32
17 Southwest_Finnish 16.52
18 Finnish 16.88
19 South_Dutch 16.92
20 Greek_Thessaly 17.25
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89% Hungarian + 11% Assyrian @ 3.56
2 89.5% Hungarian + 10.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.59
3 89.6% Hungarian + 10.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.62
4 89.5% Hungarian + 10.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.64
5 89.2% Hungarian + 10.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.66
6 89.2% Hungarian + 10.8% Armenian @ 3.68
7 88.2% Hungarian + 11.8% Cyprian @ 3.78
8 88.9% Hungarian + 11.1% Kurdish @ 3.78
9 89.8% Hungarian + 10.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.79
10 55.8% Estonian + 44.2% Central_Greek @ 3.79
11 88.6% Hungarian + 11.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.81
12 72.4% Romanian + 27.6% Estonian @ 3.88
13 72.9% Serbian + 27.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.89
14 74.4% Serbian + 25.6% Ukrainian @ 3.92
15 87.4% Hungarian + 12.6% Turkish @ 3.92
16 82% Serbian + 18% Estonian @ 3.92
17 88.2% Hungarian + 11.8% Azeri @ 3.93
18 65.2% Ukrainian + 34.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.94
19 54.6% Estonian + 45.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.95
20 70.3% Romanian + 29.7% Finnish @ 3.97
#3
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.47
2 North_Atlantic 24.14
3 East_Med 17.92
4 West_Med 13.77
5 West_Asian 10.05
6 Red_Sea 1.04
7 Oceanian 0.59
8 Siberian 0.56
9 East_Asian 0.23
10 Amerindian 0.22
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.48
2 Moldavian 6.95
3 Romanian 7.09
4 Bulgarian 8.28
5 Croatian 9.04
6 Hungarian 10.09
7 Austrian 14.38
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.85
9 South_Polish 15.36
10 East_German 15.56
11 Ukrainian 15.85
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.01
13 Southwest_Russian 18.24
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.49
15 Polish 18.9
16 West_German 20.23
17 Russian_Smolensk 20.48
18 Estonian_Polish 20.93
19 Belorussian 21.35
20 North_Italian 21.73
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.7% Bulgarian + 27.3% Belorussian @ 2.32
2 71.4% South_Polish + 28.6% Cyprian @ 2.46
3 69.6% Bulgarian + 30.4% Southwest_Russian @ 2.48
4 52.8% Belorussian + 47.2% Central_Greek @ 2.64
5 76.7% Bulgarian + 23.3% Lithuanian @ 2.64
6 70% Bulgarian + 30% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.67
7 72.6% Bulgarian + 27.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.68
8 72.2% Bulgarian + 27.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.78
9 57% Belorussian + 43% South_Italian @ 2.82
10 60.9% Southwest_Russian + 39.1% South_Italian @ 2.85
11 56.2% Southwest_Russian + 43.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.87
12 83.3% Croatian + 16.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.89
13 76.7% Bulgarian + 23.3% Estonian @ 2.91
14 51.8% Greek_Thessaly + 48.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.96
15 56.8% Southwest_Russian + 43.2% Central_Greek @ 2.98
16 52.2% Greek_Thessaly + 47.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.03
17 64.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 35.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.03
18 52.2% Central_Greek + 47.8% Lithuanian @ 3.05
19 55.8% Greek_Thessaly + 44.2% Belorussian @ 3.05
20 52.1% Lithuanian + 47.9% South_Italian @ 3.06
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.45
2 North_Sea 17.41
3 East_Med 15.1
4 Eastern_Euro 14.68
5 Atlantic 14.68
6 West_Med 9.17
7 West_Asian 8.4
8 Red_Sea 0.79
9 Oceanian 0.32
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.15
2 Romanian 6.82
3 Moldavian 7.15
4 Bulgarian 8.53
5 Croatian 8.63
6 Hungarian 9.62
7 Austrian 10.53
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.51
9 South_Polish 13.87
10 Ukrainian 14.23
11 East_German 14.74
12 Greek_Thessaly 15.56
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.11
14 Greek 16.21
15 Polish 16.32
16 Russian_Smolensk 16.43
17 Southwest_Russian 16.6
18 Belorussian 18.45
19 Estonian_Polish 18.72
20 Kargopol_Russian 19.34
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.6% South_Polish + 28.4% Cyprian @ 3.12
2 68% Polish + 32% Cyprian @ 3.16
3 83.3% Croatian + 16.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.19
4 74.8% South_Polish + 25.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.25
5 56.3% Greek + 43.7% Estonian @ 3.26
6 56.6% Southwest_Russian + 43.4% Central_Greek @ 3.52
7 50.8% Estonian + 49.2% Central_Greek @ 3.58
8 75.1% South_Polish + 24.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.59
9 60.4% Southwest_Russian + 39.6% South_Italian @ 3.59
10 51.7% Greek_Thessaly + 48.3% Southwest_Russian @ 3.6
11 71.2% Ukrainian + 28.8% Cyprian @ 3.67
12 55.8% Southwest_Russian + 44.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.7
13 53.9% Belorussian + 46.1% Central_Greek @ 3.76
14 63.5% Southwest_Russian + 36.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.82
15 71.6% Polish + 28.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.83
16 57% Polish + 43% Central_Greek @ 3.85
17 74.5% Ukrainian + 25.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.86
18 50.9% Greek_Thessaly + 49.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.88
19 84% Croatian + 16% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.89
20 54.7% Estonian + 45.3% South_Italian @ 3.9
noricum
11-08-2020, 08:18 PM
My results below, as neighbors are requested as well
K13
1 Baltic 34.4
2 North_Atlantic 34.32
3 West_Med 13.16
4 East_Med 10.83
5 West_Asian 3.84
6 South_Asian 1.43
7 Red_Sea 1.42
8 Siberian 0.39
9 Oceanian 0.11
10 Northeast_African 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.48
2 East_German 5.56
3 Austrian 6.16
4 Croatian 7.55
5 South_Polish 9.05
6 Moldavian 10.28
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.69
8 Serbian 11.24
9 Ukrainian 11.25
10 Polish 12.4
11 West_German 13.61
12 North_Swedish 13.64
13 Southwest_Finnish 14.21
14 North_German 14.49
15 South_Dutch 14.63
16 Southwest_Russian 15.11
17 Russian_Smolensk 15.46
18 Swedish 15.58
19 Romanian 15.64
20 Belorussian 15.69
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.6% Belorussian + 37.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.88
2 60.4% Belorussian + 39.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.89
3 62.4% Belorussian + 37.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.89
4 60.5% Belorussian + 39.5% Portuguese @ 3.12
5 53.1% Belorussian + 46.9% French @ 3.24
6 61.4% Belorussian + 38.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.31
7 54.1% Southwest_Russian + 45.9% French @ 3.36
8 62.5% Belorussian + 37.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.37
9 64.3% Belorussian + 35.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.4
10 53% Estonian_Polish + 47% French @ 3.41
11 75.5% South_Polish + 24.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.43
12 75.3% South_Polish + 24.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.48
13 73.8% South_Polish + 26.2% Portuguese @ 3.51
14 67.5% South_Polish + 32.5% French @ 3.53
15 63.6% Belorussian + 36.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.55
16 74.6% South_Polish + 25.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.55
17 73.8% South_Polish + 26.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.56
18 60.5% Estonian_Polish + 39.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.62
19 57.4% Estonian + 42.6% North_Italian @ 3.63
20 62.7% Estonian_Polish + 37.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.73
K15 V2
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 23.19
2 North_Sea 21.28
3 Baltic 21.04
4 Eastern_Euro 14.07
5 West_Med 9.2
6 East_Med 8
7 West_Asian 1.31
8 Red_Sea 1.07
9 South_Asian 0.84
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 4.94
2 Hungarian 7.07
3 Croatian 7.56
4 East_German 7.81
5 South_Polish 10.03
6 Serbian 10.72
7 Moldavian 10.9
8 Polish 11.01
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.33
10 Ukrainian 11.5
11 Southwest_Finnish 12.02
12 Russian_Smolensk 12.92
13 South_Dutch 13.78
14 Romanian 14.21
15 Finnish 14.22
16 Belorussian 14.53
17 North_German 14.56
18 Estonian_Polish 14.64
19 Southwest_Russian 14.77
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.01
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.8% Belorussian + 40.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.13
2 57.3% Belorussian + 42.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.24
3 53.9% Lithuanian + 46.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.42
4 66.8% Polish + 33.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.57
5 51.3% Lithuanian + 48.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.69
6 59.9% Belorussian + 40.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.72
7 67.3% Polish + 32.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.73
8 60.3% Belorussian + 39.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.73
9 58.4% Belorussian + 41.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.75
10 58.6% Belorussian + 41.4% Portuguese @ 3.78
11 58.3% Estonian + 41.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.79
12 64.7% Polish + 35.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.89
13 59.8% Estonian + 40.2% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.91
14 59.7% Estonian_Polish + 40.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.92
15 57.2% Estonian_Polish + 42.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.93
16 60.5% Russian_Smolensk + 39.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.01
17 54.3% Lithuanian + 45.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.02
18 63% Russian_Smolensk + 37% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.03
19 54% Lithuanian + 46% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.03
20 65.8% Polish + 34.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.07
Found some new Yugoslav results. Republika Srpska-born father with grandparents from Zadar and Split-Dalmatia, Croatia, mother born in Vojvodina but with blatantly non-Serbian names.
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 30.29
2 Baltic 27.71
3 East_Med 16.99
4 West_Med 14.61
5 West_Asian 7.01
6 Red_Sea 1.72
7 Siberian 1.3
8 Oceanian 0.36
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.97
2 Hungarian 7.34
3 Romanian 7.42
4 Moldavian 9.62
5 Austrian 9.89
6 Bulgarian 10.03
7 Croatian 10.37
8 East_German 11.79
9 West_German 14.19
10 South_Dutch 15.75
11 French 15.94
12 South_Polish 16.08
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.47
14 Greek_Thessaly 17.36
15 North_Italian 17.49
16 Ukrainian 17.49
17 North_German 18.76
18 Tuscan 19.32
19 Portuguese 19.56
20 Polish 19.88
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.5% Hungarian + 17.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.51
2 79% Hungarian + 21% Ashkenazi @ 2.59
3 82.9% Hungarian + 17.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.78
4 82.9% Hungarian + 17.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.89
5 84.4% Hungarian + 15.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.99
6 77.8% Hungarian + 22.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.04
7 54.3% Tuscan + 45.7% Belorussian @ 3.1
8 89.5% Serbian + 10.5% Southeast_English @ 3.13
9 89.7% Serbian + 10.3% Danish @ 3.17
10 84.7% Hungarian + 15.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.18
11 90.1% Serbian + 9.9% North_Dutch @ 3.21
12 90.6% Serbian + 9.4% Norwegian @ 3.21
13 80.9% Hungarian + 19.1% South_Italian @ 3.22
14 90.6% Serbian + 9.4% Orcadian @ 3.23
15 72.1% Hungarian + 27.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.24
16 79.1% Hungarian + 20.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.25
17 57.7% Tuscan + 42.3% Estonian @ 3.25
18 90.4% Serbian + 9.6% Swedish @ 3.26
19 89.1% Serbian + 10.9% North_German @ 3.26
20 85.9% Serbian + 14.1% West_German @ 3.26
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 24.06
2 Baltic 21.29
3 Atlantic 15.32
4 East_Med 13.35
5 West_Med 10.77
6 Eastern_Euro 7.44
7 West_Asian 5.24
8 Red_Sea 1.87
9 Siberian 0.6
10 Oceanian 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 7.46
2 Serbian 9.05
3 Moldavian 10.15
4 Romanian 10.3
5 Croatian 10.51
6 Austrian 10.78
7 East_German 12.15
8 Bulgarian 12.58
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.34
10 South_Polish 14.39
11 Ukrainian 14.56
12 West_German 15.16
13 South_Dutch 16.48
14 French 16.75
15 Polish 16.94
16 Greek_Thessaly 17.12
17 Southwest_Finnish 17.81
18 North_German 17.95
19 Finnish 18.33
20 Russian_Smolensk 18.38
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.3% Hungarian + 12.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.59
2 76.6% Hungarian + 23.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.6
3 89.8% Hungarian + 10.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.65
4 89.6% Hungarian + 10.4% Samaritan @ 5.66
5 90% Hungarian + 10% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.7
6 86.2% Hungarian + 13.8% Italian_Jewish @ 5.74
7 91.7% Hungarian + 8.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.74
8 84.8% Hungarian + 15.2% South_Italian @ 5.77
9 86.9% Hungarian + 13.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.78
10 88% Hungarian + 12% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.8
11 89.9% Hungarian + 10.1% Palestinian @ 5.82
12 88.8% Hungarian + 11.2% Cyprian @ 5.83
13 83.8% Hungarian + 16.2% East_Sicilian @ 5.88
14 83.5% Hungarian + 16.5% Central_Greek @ 5.92
15 87.3% Hungarian + 12.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.94
16 90% Hungarian + 10% Jordanian @ 5.97
17 83.7% Hungarian + 16.3% Ashkenazi @ 6.02
18 89.7% Hungarian + 10.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.03
19 89.9% Hungarian + 10.1% Syrian @ 6.07
20 90.7% Hungarian + 9.3% Egyptian @ 6.1
This person's mother
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.87
2 North_Atlantic 30.49
3 West_Med 14.52
4 West_Asian 9.96
5 East_Med 9.72
6 Red_Sea 2.8
7 South_Asian 0.73
8 Oceanian 0.47
9 Northeast_African 0.42
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 3.99
2 Croatian 5.95
3 Moldavian 6.24
4 Austrian 6.6
5 Serbian 6.85
6 East_German 7.7
7 Romanian 10.91
8 South_Polish 11.48
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.49
10 Ukrainian 13.04
11 Bulgarian 13.66
12 West_German 13.73
13 Polish 15.03
14 South_Dutch 15.09
15 North_German 16.27
16 Southwest_Russian 16.85
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.88
18 French 17.03
19 North_Swedish 17.74
20 Russian_Smolensk 17.75
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.6% Moldavian + 48.4% Austrian @ 2.22
2 70.1% Moldavian + 29.9% West_German @ 2.41
3 72.2% Moldavian + 27.8% South_Dutch @ 2.43
4 78.9% Moldavian + 21.1% Southwest_English @ 2.46
5 78.9% Moldavian + 21.1% Irish @ 2.55
6 77.5% Moldavian + 22.5% Southeast_English @ 2.56
7 79.6% Moldavian + 20.4% West_Scottish @ 2.56
8 73.9% Moldavian + 26.1% North_German @ 2.59
9 77.1% Moldavian + 22.9% North_Dutch @ 2.61
10 77.1% Moldavian + 22.9% Danish @ 2.74
11 78.5% Moldavian + 21.5% Orcadian @ 2.75
12 94.9% Hungarian + 5.1% Georgian @ 2.98
13 95.3% Hungarian + 4.7% Abhkasian @ 3.03
14 76.6% Croatian + 23.4% French @ 3.03
15 78.6% Moldavian + 21.4% Norwegian @ 3.04
16 94.6% Hungarian + 5.4% Ossetian @ 3.06
17 94.3% Hungarian + 5.7% Adygei @ 3.07
18 94.1% Hungarian + 5.9% Kabardin @ 3.08
19 94.6% Hungarian + 5.4% North_Ossetian @ 3.11
20 94.4% Hungarian + 5.6% Balkar @ 3.12
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 25.25
2 Baltic 18.2
3 Atlantic 14.15
4 West_Med 12.45
5 Eastern_Euro 11.8
6 West_Asian 9.95
7 East_Med 4.74
8 Red_Sea 3.09
9 Northeast_African 0.36
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 6.23
2 Moldavian 7.86
3 East_German 8.47
4 Croatian 9.15
5 Serbian 9.3
6 Austrian 10.27
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.53
8 Romanian 11.69
9 South_Polish 12.53
10 Ukrainian 12.59
11 West_German 13.44
12 South_Dutch 14.49
13 Bulgarian 14.82
14 Polish 15.25
15 French 15.48
16 Southwest_Finnish 15.63
17 North_German 15.87
18 Finnish 16.16
19 North_Swedish 16.74
20 Russian_Smolensk 17.2
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.4% Moldavian + 33.6% West_German @ 4.6
2 76.6% Moldavian + 23.4% West_Norwegian @ 5.08
3 77.8% Moldavian + 22.2% Orcadian @ 5.15
4 74.9% Moldavian + 25.1% Southwest_English @ 5.17
5 74.8% Moldavian + 25.2% North_Dutch @ 5.21
6 74.8% Moldavian + 25.2% Norwegian @ 5.27
7 92.8% Hungarian + 7.2% Ossetian @ 5.29
8 92.4% Hungarian + 7.6% Chechen @ 5.36
9 94.1% Hungarian + 5.9% Abhkasian @ 5.36
10 74.2% Moldavian + 25.8% Swedish @ 5.37
11 93.7% Hungarian + 6.3% Georgian @ 5.38
12 92.7% Hungarian + 7.3% Balkar @ 5.39
13 93.2% Hungarian + 6.8% North_Ossetian @ 5.42
14 92.2% Hungarian + 7.8% Tabassaran @ 5.43
15 92.7% Hungarian + 7.3% Kabardin @ 5.45
16 93.1% Hungarian + 6.9% Adygei @ 5.46
17 92.7% Hungarian + 7.3% Lezgin @ 5.5
18 76.7% Moldavian + 23.3% Southeast_English @ 5.5
19 92.6% Hungarian + 7.4% Kumyk @ 5.53
20 72.1% Moldavian + 27.9% French @ 5.53
CommonSense
11-21-2020, 05:35 PM
Croat from Herzegovina (Čapljina-Ljubuški)
RY6519123
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.98
2 North_Atlantic 25.68
3 West_Med 18.06
4 East_Med 12.86
5 West_Asian 7.46
6 Siberian 1.51
7 Red_Sea 1.4
8 South_Asian 0.91
9 East_Asian 0.07
10 Amerindian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.62
2 Serbian 5.77
3 Croatian 6.05
4 Hungarian 7.97
5 Romanian 8.83
6 Bulgarian 10.8
7 Austrian 11.44
8 East_German 12.08
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.36
10 South_Polish 13.12
11 Ukrainian 13.42
12 Polish 16.56
13 Southwest_Russian 17.17
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.64
15 West_German 18.06
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.75
17 Estonian_Polish 19.11
18 Greek_Thessaly 19.15
19 South_Dutch 19.28
20 Belorussian 19.82
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.2% Ukrainian + 36.8% Tuscan @ 2.58
2 88.5% Croatian + 11.5% Sardinian @ 2.63
3 66.8% Ukrainian + 33.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.67
4 91.9% Moldavian + 8.1% Sardinian @ 2.76
5 80.9% Croatian + 19.1% Tuscan @ 2.84
6 83.2% Croatian + 16.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.86
7 78.1% Croatian + 21.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.87
8 87.1% Croatian + 12.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.01
9 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% South_Italian @ 3.02
10 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% North_Italian @ 3.03
11 87.8% Moldavian + 12.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.07
12 65.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 34.7% Tuscan @ 3.11
13 66.6% Croatian + 33.4% Bulgarian @ 3.12
14 59.1% Ukrainian + 40.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.12
15 83.5% Croatian + 16.5% Central_Greek @ 3.13
16 84% Croatian + 16% East_Sicilian @ 3.13
17 87.3% Croatian + 12.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.14
18 61.5% Croatian + 38.5% Romanian @ 3.14
19 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.18
20 79.9% Croatian + 20.1% North_Italian @ 3.18
Croat from Herzegovina (Čapljina-Ljubuki)
RY6519123
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.98
2 North_Atlantic 25.68
3 West_Med 18.06
4 East_Med 12.86
5 West_Asian 7.46
6 Siberian 1.51
7 Red_Sea 1.4
8 South_Asian 0.91
9 East_Asian 0.07
10 Amerindian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.62
2 Serbian 5.77
3 Croatian 6.05
4 Hungarian 7.97
5 Romanian 8.83
6 Bulgarian 10.8
7 Austrian 11.44
8 East_German 12.08
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.36
10 South_Polish 13.12
11 Ukrainian 13.42
12 Polish 16.56
13 Southwest_Russian 17.17
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.64
15 West_German 18.06
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.75
17 Estonian_Polish 19.11
18 Greek_Thessaly 19.15
19 South_Dutch 19.28
20 Belorussian 19.82
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.2% Ukrainian + 36.8% Tuscan @ 2.58
2 88.5% Croatian + 11.5% Sardinian @ 2.63
3 66.8% Ukrainian + 33.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.67
4 91.9% Moldavian + 8.1% Sardinian @ 2.76
5 80.9% Croatian + 19.1% Tuscan @ 2.84
6 83.2% Croatian + 16.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.86
7 78.1% Croatian + 21.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.87
8 87.1% Croatian + 12.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.01
9 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% South_Italian @ 3.02
10 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% North_Italian @ 3.03
11 87.8% Moldavian + 12.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.07
12 65.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 34.7% Tuscan @ 3.11
13 66.6% Croatian + 33.4% Bulgarian @ 3.12
14 59.1% Ukrainian + 40.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.12
15 83.5% Croatian + 16.5% Central_Greek @ 3.13
16 84% Croatian + 16% East_Sicilian @ 3.13
17 87.3% Croatian + 12.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.14
18 61.5% Croatian + 38.5% Romanian @ 3.14
19 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.18
20 79.9% Croatian + 20.1% North_Italian @ 3.18
Croat_Herzegovina,25.68,31.98,18.06,7.46,12.86,1.4 ,0.91,0.07,1.51,0.06,0,0,0
Distance to: Croat_Herzegovina
2.49941993 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
2.69042748 Bosniak_Krajina
2.91482418 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
3.06130691 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
3.07855486 Croat_B&H
3.19505868 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
3.22242145 Serb_B&H
3.23959874 Croat_B&H_Bosnia_proper
3.27498092 Bosniak
3.54785851 Bosniak_Sarajevo
3.64052194 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
3.78700409 Croat_Croatia_Istria_&_Kvarner
3.96870256 Serb_B&H_Krajina
4.00037498 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
4.05902698 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
4.08465421 Moldova_North
4.16962828 Serb_Croatia_Lika
4.20997625 Serb_Croatia
4.29820893 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
4.33633486 Serb
4.35204550 Romania_Moldavia_North
4.35596143 Romania_Maramures
4.47254961 Serb_Serbia
4.47579043 Serb
4.51983407 Csángó
Croat from North Adriatic region, 1/8 German:
Croat_Rijeka,33.52,33.8,11.86,6.4,11.11,0.96,0,0,0 .11,1.35,0.19,0,0.69
Distance to: Croat_Rijeka
3.95910343 Slovenian
4.01069819 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
4.06520602 Hungarian_Transdanubia
4.23761726 Hungarian_Budapest
4.33834070 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
4.36820329 Hungarian_Northern
4.54665811 Hungarian
4.94041496 Croat_Croatia_Central
5.46251773 Hungarian_Alföld
5.58879236 Czech
5.63692533 Slovak
5.94994958 Croat_Croatia
6.38570278 Croat
6.95836188 Austrian
6.99997143 German_East
7.04875876 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
8.19130026 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
8.34855676 Croat_B&H_Bosnia_proper
8.42825011 Hungarian_Transylvania
8.72519341 Croat_Croatia_Istria_&_Kvarner
8.85156483 Moldova_North
9.03140631 Croat_B&H
9.04848054 Székely
9.09008251 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
9.11170127 Csángó
new Slavonian sample!
Croat_Slavonia,22.79,36.25,15.83,5.52,15.95,0.48,1 .57,0,0.5,1.12,0,0,0
Distance to: Croat_Slavonia
5.93214127 Bosniak_Bosnia_proper
6.13259325 Bosniak_Sarajevo
6.14039087 Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina
6.55757577 Moldova_North
6.66949773 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
7.00056426 Croat_Littoral
7.09664005 Bosniak
7.21515073 Bosniak_Krajina
7.33283710 Serb_north
7.63256182 Romania_Moldavia_North
7.74457875 Moldova_Centre
7.75909789 Croat_East
7.78314204 Moldova_average
8.15119010 Croat
8.22624459 Serb_central
8.24379767 Serb
9.09217796 Romania_Maramures
9.42747580 Hungarian_Alföld
9.48362273 Csángó
10.02224526 Hungarian_Northern
10.47479833 Székely
10.49090082 Hungarian
10.52422919 Serb_south
10.77053388 Romania_Moldavia_South
10.95496235 Hungarian_Transylvania
What was the reason why you stopped using the nMonte oracle?
Varda
12-11-2020, 10:50 AM
Female with surname Vujasin. She is most likely Serb from Dalmatian hinterland (Vrlika area) or Banija.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=104504&d=1607687411
Paternal grandparents are Muslims from Tuzla canton, Bosnia
Maternal grandparents are from Loznica, Western Serbia and Split, Croatia
K13:
North_Atlantic 25.18 Pct
Baltic 31.07 Pct
West_Med 14.58 Pct
West_Asian 12.15 Pct
East_Med 11.4 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 2.81 Pct
East_Asian 0.74 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.7 Pct
Oceanian 0.29 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Distance to: ES
5.34125453 Bosniak
5.44827496 Romania_Moldavia_North
5.45033944 Moldova_Centre
5.66396504 Moldova_North
5.67411667 Moldova_average
5.69091381 Croat_South
5.83222085 Serb_north
6.20185456 Csángó
6.48237611 Croat
6.53633689 Croat_East
6.61545917 Serb
6.70660868 Croat_West
6.71454392 Székely
6.83361544 Hungarian_Transylvania
7.02270603 Serb_central
7.05091483 Romania_Maramures
7.41478253 Hungarian_Alföld
7.99095113 Hungarian
8.35277798 Romania_Moldavia_South
8.41167641 Romania_Crisana
Distance: 1.8987% / 1.89868507
Target: ES | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.5 Croat
33.2 Croat_South
6.8 Moldova_North
5.9 Kalash
3.8 Dargin
0.8 Karitiana
K15:
North_Sea 16.5 Pct
Atlantic 15.05 Pct
Baltic 19.67 Pct
Eastern_Euro 15.01 Pct
West_Med 10.16 Pct
West_Asian 10.87 Pct
East_Med 8.58 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 2.7 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.15 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.28 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.21
2 Croatian 6.07
3 Serbian 7.44
4 Romanian 8.12
5 Hungarian 8.64
6 Austrian 9.46
7 Bulgarian 10.27
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.41
9 South_Polish 11.68
10 Ukrainian 12.17
11 East_German 12.84
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.92
13 Russian_Smolensk 14.29
14 Polish 14.36
15 Southwest_Russian 14.67
16 Estonian_Polish 16.79
17 Belorussian 16.86
18 Kargopol_Russian 17.28
19 Greek_Thessaly 18.13
20 Southwest_Finnish 18.17
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Turkmen @ 2.7
2 87.6% Croatian + 12.4% Kurdish @ 2.77
3 86% Croatian + 14% Kumyk @ 2.8
4 86.7% Croatian + 13.3% Azeri @ 2.87
5 88.7% Croatian + 11.3% Makrani @ 2.88
6 87.9% Croatian + 12.1% Iranian @ 2.91
7 86.6% Croatian + 13.4% Lezgin @ 2.93
8 88.7% Croatian + 11.3% Balochi @ 2.94
9 89% Croatian + 11% Brahui @ 2.95
10 86.5% Croatian + 13.5% Tabassaran @ 3
11 88.5% Croatian + 11.5% Armenian @ 3.05
12 87.5% Croatian + 12.5% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.1
13 93.6% Moldavian + 6.4% Balochi @ 3.1
14 93.8% Moldavian + 6.2% Brahui @ 3.13
15 89.5% Croatian + 10.5% Georgian @ 3.14
16 90.2% Croatian + 9.8% Abhkasian @ 3.15
17 93.7% Moldavian + 6.3% Makrani @ 3.16
18 86.3% Croatian + 13.7% Turkish @ 3.17
19 93% Moldavian + 7% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.19
20 88% Croatian + 12% Adygei @ 3.2
Some very distant Tzigane is not impossible (her South_Asian from Dodecad is 1.96 Pct)
She's a hot woman by the way :cool:
Ion Basescul
12-17-2020, 09:45 AM
Extra rare find
Vlach/Romanian from Stara Lubovna, Slovakia. Part of the family emigrated to the US, others returned to Romania and the rest stayed in Slovakia. Their main language is Slovak, but they speak basic Romanian.
Only one of them tested and they look mixed with Slovaks, which is expected given that Slovak is their native language. But the Vlach/Romanian genes are there, since they pull South from Slovaks.
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
24.06
36.55
17.11
4.79
9.76
3.82
0.55
1.43
0.21
0.89
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0
0.81
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Distance to:
Vlach_Slovakia
5.65107954
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
6.92985570
Croat_East
7.10672217
Moldova_North
7.37746569
Croat
7.76641487
Bosniak
7.84620290
Croat_North
7.89406106
Hungarian_Alföld
8.02532865
Croat_South
8.35784063
Hungarian_Northern
8.75225685
Croat_West
8.84919205
Slovak
8.93860168
Slovenian
8.94132541
Hungarian
9.22986457
Serb_north
9.53652977
Csángó
9.57785467
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
9.84040141
Romania_Moldavia_North
9.89746937
Moldova_Ukrainian
9.93634239
Ukrainian_Lviv
10.00587827
Moldova_average
10.07297374
Moldova_Centre
10.46939826
Serb
10.54070206
Serb_central
10.89493001
Hungarian_Transylvania
10.92236696
Székely
11.09554866
Ukrainian
11.20406176
Romania_Maramures
11.50293441
Czech
11.85381795
South_Polish
13.11808675
Sorb_Lusatia
13.20090527
Romania_Moldavia_South
13.42287227
Romania_Crisana
13.79126173
Serb_south
14.10241823
Romania_Transylvania
14.39446421
Romania_average
14.51241537
Masurian
14.52897106
Polish
14.77267410
German_East
14.77621738
Montenegrin
14.99958333
Romania_Banat
15.11608415
Russian_Southwest
15.19366644
Bulgaria_Northwestern
15.46705854
Romania_Oltenia
15.50867177
Austrian
15.53061493
Moldova_South
15.81631120
Ukrainian_Belgorod
15.94647610
Bosniak_Sandzak
15.99518990
Pomak_Plovdiv
16.08570483
Romania_Dobruja
16.22534129
Romania_Wallachia
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new Slavonian sample!
Croat_Slavonia,22.79,36.25,15.83,5.52,15.95,0.48,1 .57,0,0.5,1.12,0,0,0
Now this result has a face too! This sample belongs to our new member Vrazijadivizija :)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?339939-New-to-this-classify-thanks-in-advance-)
Scandal
01-04-2021, 03:45 PM
Weird slavojew hungarian checking in
Eurogenes k13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.52
2 North_Atlantic 28.69
3 East_Med 13.02
4 West_Med 11.43
5 West_Asian 3.62
6 Red_Sea 2.3
7 Northeast_African 0.72
8 Siberian 0.48
9 Oceanian 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 6.67
2 South_Polish 7.3
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.92
4 Ukrainian 8.11
5 Hungarian 8.88
6 Moldavian 9.44
7 Polish 9.96
8 Southwest_Russian 10.45
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.41
10 Estonian_Polish 11.68
11 Russian_Smolensk 11.71
12 Belorussian 11.78
13 East_German 12.12
14 Austrian 12.79
15 Serbian 12.83
16 Southwest_Finnish 15.13
17 Kargopol_Russian 15.43
18 Estonian 16.1
19 Finnish 16.5
20 Lithuanian 16.7
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.8% Belorussian + 21.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.95
2 72.7% Belorussian + 27.3% Tuscan @ 3.05
3 75% Belorussian + 25% West_Sicilian @ 3.05
4 79% Belorussian + 21% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.37
5 75.6% Belorussian + 24.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.41
6 79% Belorussian + 21% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.42
7 80.2% Belorussian + 19.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.7
8 77.3% Belorussian + 22.7% South_Italian @ 3.7
9 74.6% Belorussian + 25.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.71
10 70.5% Belorussian + 29.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.73
11 75.7% Belorussian + 24.3% East_Sicilian @ 3.76
12 52.4% Belorussian + 47.6% Serbian @ 3.79
13 80.3% Belorussian + 19.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.79
14 73.3% Estonian_Polish + 26.7% Tuscan @ 3.81
15 79.3% Estonian_Polish + 20.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.82
16 73% Estonian + 27% Italian_Jewish @ 3.89
17 90.7% South_Polish + 9.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.9
18 69.1% Estonian + 30.9% Ashkenazi @ 3.96
19 75.6% Estonian_Polish + 24.4% West_Sicilian @ 3.97
20 72.2% Lithuanian + 27.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.99
Weird slavojew hungarian checking in
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.52
2 North_Atlantic 28.69
3 East_Med 13.02
4 West_Med 11.43
5 West_Asian 3.62
6 Red_Sea 2.3
7 Northeast_African 0.72
8 Siberian 0.48
9 Oceanian 0.23
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 6.67
2 South_Polish 7.3
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.92
4 Ukrainian 8.11
5 Hungarian 8.88
6 Moldavian 9.44
7 Polish 9.96
8 Southwest_Russian 10.45
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.41
10 Estonian_Polish 11.68
11 Russian_Smolensk 11.71
12 Belorussian 11.78
13 East_German 12.12
14 Austrian 12.79
15 Serbian 12.83
16 Southwest_Finnish 15.13
17 Kargopol_Russian 15.43
18 Estonian 16.1
19 Finnish 16.5
20 Lithuanian 16.7
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.8% Belorussian + 21.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.95
2 72.7% Belorussian + 27.3% Tuscan @ 3.05
3 75% Belorussian + 25% West_Sicilian @ 3.05
4 79% Belorussian + 21% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.37
5 75.6% Belorussian + 24.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.41
6 79% Belorussian + 21% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.42
7 80.2% Belorussian + 19.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.7
8 77.3% Belorussian + 22.7% South_Italian @ 3.7
9 74.6% Belorussian + 25.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.71
10 70.5% Belorussian + 29.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.73
11 75.7% Belorussian + 24.3% East_Sicilian @ 3.76
12 52.4% Belorussian + 47.6% Serbian @ 3.79
13 80.3% Belorussian + 19.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.79
14 73.3% Estonian_Polish + 26.7% Tuscan @ 3.81
15 79.3% Estonian_Polish + 20.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.82
16 73% Estonian + 27% Italian_Jewish @ 3.89
17 90.7% South_Polish + 9.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.9
18 69.1% Estonian + 30.9% Ashkenazi @ 3.96
19 75.6% Estonian_Polish + 24.4% West_Sicilian @ 3.97
20 72.2% Lithuanian + 27.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.99
What I don't really like about your results is the near complete lack of Mong. I admit that seeing other (non-East Slavic) Europeans with minor Mong makes me feel not so "alone", so I "celebrate" it in Serbs, Romanians, Poles, etc. but particularly in Hungary some minor Mong does make sense historically.
^^^^Slavic as fuck! :) I think Hungarian master may have similarly high Baltic results like you but also with bit higher North Atlantic, based on his MH results.
Sadly we will never know xD
What I don't really like about your results is the near complete lack of Mong. I admit that seeing other (non-East Slavic) Europeans with minor Mong makes me feel not so "alone", so I "celebrate" it in Serbs, Romanians, Poles, etc. but particularly in Hungary some minor Mong does make sense historically.
You always have Stears xD
You always have Stears xD
Oh yes, I especially celebrate his Mong for obvious reasons :swl
Scandal
01-05-2021, 09:01 AM
^^^^Slavic as fuck! :) I think Hungarian master may have similarly high Baltic results like you but also with bit higher North Atlantic, based on his MH results.
Sadly we will never know xD
I don't think he understands what gedmatch is for. He's weird tbh.
I don't think understands what gedmatch is for. He's weird tbh.
Hungarian master? He could simply send his data to somebody else who knows how to do it.
I don't think understands what gedmatch is for. He's weird tbh.
Hungarian master? He could simply send his data to somebody else who knows how to do it.
Scandal
01-05-2021, 09:50 AM
Hungarian master? He could simply send his data to somebody else who knows how to do it.
I think he doesn't know what raw data is, let alone knowing how to download it. I tried to talk to him about this, I tried to explain what gedmatch is, but he seemed uninterested.
I think he doesn't know what raw data is, let alone knowing how to download it. I tried to talk to him about this, I tried to explain what gedmatch is, but he seemed uninterested.
Or maybe he is a super loyal MyHeritage customer, 100% content with the results:)
Serb_Bosnia,27.26,28.39,19.07,7.34,13.43,1.05,0,0. 68,0,1.05,0.49,0.37,0
Can someone look up this, i dont undestand vahaduo :)
CommonSense
01-06-2021, 10:40 PM
Serb_Bosnia,27.26,28.39,19.07,7.34,13.43,1.05,0,0. 68,0,1.05,0.49,0.37,0
Can someone look up this, i dont undestand vahaduo :)
Distance to: Serb_Bosnia
4.28295459 Serb_central
4.52033185 Serb
4.69451808 Serb_north
4.86201604 Romania_Crisana
4.87919051 Csángó
4.92976673 Székely
4.97438438 Romania_Maramures
5.00020000 Croat_South
5.18252834 Hungarian_Transylvania
5.28141080 Croat_West
5.98086950 Romania_Moldavia_North
6.07238009 Romania_Moldavia_South
6.33356929 Romania_Transylvania
6.36143852 Bosniak
6.56215666 Croat
6.60096205 Montenegrin
6.88112636 Moldova_average
7.01966523 Moldova_Centre
7.08557690 Serb_south
7.23597264 Romania_average
7.47913765 Hungarian_Alföld
7.55712908 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.69350375 Romania_Oltenia
7.89773385 Hungarian
7.93680036 Romania_Banat
Stears original AncestryDNA raw data (much better quality than 23andme)
Stears,28.17,31.21,12.89,10.93,10.61,0.78,2.03,0.2 4,1.9,0.76,0,0.47,0
Distance to: Stears
4.91174104 Hungarian_Transylvania
4.91866852 Hungarian_Alföld
5.02263875 Croat
5.03396464 Hungarian
5.14428809 Csángó
5.23906480 Székely
5.38356759 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
5.41378795 Croat_West
5.43240278 Croat_East
5.76661079 Croat_South
5.98474728 Croat_North
6.18610540 Bosniak
6.34904717 Moldova_North
6.45523044 Romania_Moldavia_North
6.83100285 Hungarian_Northern
6.93621655 Serb_north
7.03108100 Slovenian
7.05961047 Moldova_Centre
7.40176330 Moldova_average
7.96936635 Serb
8.10604096 Serb_central
8.44873363 Romania_Maramures
8.62079463 Slovak
9.45032275 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.54300791 Romania_Crisana
Target: Stears
Distance: 0.9408% / 0.94080405 | R2P
89.0 Hungarian
11.0 Yagnobi
Distance to: Serb_Bosnia
4.28295459 Serb_central
4.52033185 Serb
4.69451808 Serb_north
4.86201604 Romania_Crisana
4.87919051 Csángó
4.92976673 Székely
4.97438438 Romania_Maramures
5.00020000 Croat_South
5.18252834 Hungarian_Transylvania
5.28141080 Croat_West
5.98086950 Romania_Moldavia_North
6.07238009 Romania_Moldavia_South
6.33356929 Romania_Transylvania
6.36143852 Bosniak
6.56215666 Croat
6.60096205 Montenegrin
6.88112636 Moldova_average
7.01966523 Moldova_Centre
7.08557690 Serb_south
7.23597264 Romania_average
7.47913765 Hungarian_Alföld
7.55712908 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.69350375 Romania_Oltenia
7.89773385 Hungarian
7.93680036 Romania_Banat Does my results say anything specific?
Distance to: Serb_Bosnia
4.28295459 Serb_central
4.52033185 Serb
4.69451808 Serb_north
4.86201604 Romania_Crisana
4.87919051 Csángó
4.92976673 Székely
4.97438438 Romania_Maramures
5.00020000 Croat_South
5.18252834 Hungarian_Transylvania
5.28141080 Croat_West
5.98086950 Romania_Moldavia_North
6.07238009 Romania_Moldavia_South
6.33356929 Romania_Transylvania
6.36143852 Bosniak
6.56215666 Croat
6.60096205 Montenegrin
6.88112636 Moldova_average
7.01966523 Moldova_Centre
7.08557690 Serb_south
7.23597264 Romania_average
7.47913765 Hungarian_Alföld
7.55712908 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.69350375 Romania_Oltenia
7.89773385 Hungarian
7.93680036 Romania_Banat Does my results say anything specific?
Abriekman
01-07-2021, 01:31 PM
Stears original AncestryDNA raw data (much better quality than 23andme)
Stears,28.17,31.21,12.89,10.93,10.61,0.78,2.03,0.2 4,1.9,0.76,0,0.47,0
Distance to: Stears
4.91174104 Hungarian_Transylvania
4.91866852 Hungarian_Alföld
5.02263875 Croat
5.03396464 Hungarian
5.14428809 Csángó
5.23906480 Székely
5.38356759 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
5.41378795 Croat_West
5.43240278 Croat_East
5.76661079 Croat_South
5.98474728 Croat_North
6.18610540 Bosniak
6.34904717 Moldova_North
6.45523044 Romania_Moldavia_North
6.83100285 Hungarian_Northern
6.93621655 Serb_north
7.03108100 Slovenian
7.05961047 Moldova_Centre
7.40176330 Moldova_average
7.96936635 Serb
8.10604096 Serb_central
8.44873363 Romania_Maramures
8.62079463 Slovak
9.45032275 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.54300791 Romania_Crisana
Target: Stears
Distance: 0.9408% / 0.94080405 | R2P
89.0 Hungarian
11.0 Yagnobi
Does he have Jasz ancestry?
Does he have Jasz ancestry?
Not any known, but it's possible. Before the update on Ancestry he scored 12% Kavkaz
Does my results say anything special?
Abriekman
01-09-2021, 02:39 PM
Not any known, but it's possible. Before the update on Ancestry he scored 12% Kavkaz
I would say very possible, never seen such Hungarian results. Hungary is the most mixed country, Roma, Jews, Jasz and Hungarian nation is already mixed and consists Germanic, Slavic, Balkan and Hunnic blood
CommonSense
01-12-2021, 06:08 PM
Kosovo Albanian:
Kit YY8786549
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.88
2 North_Atlantic 22.06
3 West_Med 21.39
4 Baltic 20.46
5 West_Asian 9.6
6 Red_Sea 2.12
7 Amerindian 0.75
8 Oceanian 0.39
9 East_Asian 0.31
10 Siberian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.47
2 Greek_Thessaly 5.74
3 Romanian 7.21
4 Tuscan 10.86
5 Serbian 11
6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.44
7 North_Italian 12.53
8 Central_Greek 12.77
9 West_Sicilian 12.98
10 East_Sicilian 13.92
11 Ashkenazi 15.56
12 South_Italian 16.67
13 Moldavian 17
14 Hungarian 19.06
15 Portuguese 19.59
16 Croatian 19.63
17 Spanish_Extremadura 20.29
18 Spanish_Galicia 20.45
19 Austrian 21.03
20 Spanish_Cataluna 21.31
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.3% Bulgarian + 12.7% Sardinian @ 2.59
2 68.9% Bulgarian + 31.1% Tuscan @ 2.74
3 82.3% Greek_Thessaly + 17.7% East_German @ 2.96
4 73.4% Bulgarian + 26.6% West_Sicilian @ 2.98
5 68.4% Greek_Thessaly + 31.6% Serbian @ 3.01
6 79.9% Greek_Thessaly + 20.1% Croatian @ 3.04
7 84.7% Greek_Thessaly + 15.3% South_Polish @ 3.09
8 79.6% Greek_Thessaly + 20.4% Hungarian @ 3.09
9 81.2% Greek_Thessaly + 18.8% Austrian @ 3.12
10 84.9% Greek_Thessaly + 15.1% Ukrainian @ 3.12
11 86.3% Greek_Thessaly + 13.7% Polish @ 3.15
12 87.8% Greek_Thessaly + 12.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.16
13 57.6% Greek_Thessaly + 42.4% Romanian @ 3.18
14 88.6% Greek_Thessaly + 11.4% Estonian @ 3.2
15 51.8% Bulgarian + 48.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.26
16 84.7% Greek_Thessaly + 15.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.31
17 87.5% Greek_Thessaly + 12.5% Estonian_Polish @ 3.34
18 87.7% Greek_Thessaly + 12.3% Belorussian @ 3.35
19 87.8% Greek_Thessaly + 12.2% North_Swedish @ 3.37
20 89.1% Greek_Thessaly + 10.9% Lithuanian @ 3.38
Kosovo Albanian:[/spoiler]
Distance to: Kosovo_Albanian
2.67235149 Macedonia_south
2.98929758 Albanian_Gheg
3.12081720 MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE
3.26326524 Torbesh_average
3.33104308 Macednia_north
3.52837073 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
3.55837041 Albanian
4.89388649 Greek_Thessaly
5.19785533 Albanian_Tosk
5.41434207 Greek_Central_Macedonia
5.72856003 Greek_Northern-Thrace
5.89752490 Bulgaria_Southcentral
6.22930975 Greek_Northeast
6.29082665 Bulgaria_Southeastern
6.45667871 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
6.56134895 Bulgaria_average
6.78664866 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
6.81935481 Bulgaria_Northeastern
6.83147861 Greek_West
6.87679431 Greek
6.94005043 Bulgaria_Southwestern
6.94319091 Bulgaria_Northcentral
7.01625256 Greek_West_Macedonia
7.09562541 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.29675955 Romania_Muntenia
CommonSense
01-12-2021, 10:08 PM
Distance to: Kosovo_Albanian
2.67235149 Macedonia_south
2.98929758 Albanian_Gheg
3.12081720 MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE
3.26326524 Torbesh_average
3.33104308 Macednia_north
3.52837073 Vlach(Aromanian)_average
3.55837041 Albanian
4.89388649 Greek_Thessaly
5.19785533 Albanian_Tosk
5.41434207 Greek_Central_Macedonia
5.72856003 Greek_Northern-Thrace
5.89752490 Bulgaria_Southcentral
6.22930975 Greek_Northeast
6.29082665 Bulgaria_Southeastern
6.45667871 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
6.56134895 Bulgaria_average
6.78664866 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
6.81935481 Bulgaria_Northeastern
6.83147861 Greek_West
6.87679431 Greek
6.94005043 Bulgaria_Southwestern
6.94319091 Bulgaria_Northcentral
7.01625256 Greek_West_Macedonia
7.09562541 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.29675955 Romania_Muntenia
Very few would have assumed Macedonians were this close to Albanians before we obtained all these results and averages.
Vojnik
01-13-2021, 08:15 AM
Very few would have assumed Macedonians were this close to Albanians before we obtained all these results and averages.
I find that we are close to Kosovo Albanians but not so much the Albanians from Albania.
Who are closer to Poles genetically speaking: Macedonians or Bulgarians?
Duan
01-13-2021, 12:19 PM
Who are closer to Poles genetically speaking: Macedonians or Bulgarians?
Bulgarians
https://i.imgur.com/jXQLluX.png
JohnnyP
01-13-2021, 05:37 PM
Macedonians
https://i.imgur.com/kQ9QpkF.jpg
And I found this K15 with Albanians
https://i.imgur.com/MmSWdPB.jpg
Vojnik
01-14-2021, 12:31 AM
Who are closer to Poles genetically speaking: Macedonians or Bulgarians?
Bulgarians being a Danubian people, would bring them closer to Poles. Macedonians are more of a Mountain Med goat herding people.
CommonSense
01-14-2021, 08:57 PM
Bosniak:
Kit YR4702010
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.79
2 North_Atlantic 24.51
3 West_Med 18.21
4 East_Med 13.23
5 West_Asian 11.2
6 Oceanian 1.07
7 Amerindian 0.94
8 Siberian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.24
2 Serbian 5.83
3 Romanian 7.44
4 Croatian 7.79
5 Bulgarian 9
6 Hungarian 9.65
7 Austrian 12.95
8 East_German 13.91
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.09
10 South_Polish 15
11 Ukrainian 15.25
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.73
13 Polish 18.42
14 Southwest_Russian 18.71
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.82
16 West_German 18.91
17 North_Italian 20.4
18 South_Dutch 20.41
19 Russian_Smolensk 20.5
20 French 20.74
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.2% Croatian + 45.8% Bulgarian @ 3.17
2 67% Moldavian + 33% Bulgarian @ 3.22
3 62.3% Moldavian + 37.7% Romanian @ 3.36
4 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Sardinian @ 3.41
5 84.7% Moldavian + 15.3% Tuscan @ 3.45
6 77.7% Croatian + 22.3% Central_Greek @ 3.47
7 64.2% Bulgarian + 35.8% Ukrainian @ 3.49
8 81.6% Moldavian + 18.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.49
9 86.2% Moldavian + 13.8% Central_Greek @ 3.52
10 88.1% Moldavian + 11.9% South_Italian @ 3.52
11 62.2% Bulgarian + 37.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.53
12 86% Moldavian + 14% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.54
13 83.9% Moldavian + 16.1% North_Italian @ 3.56
14 86.8% Moldavian + 13.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.56
15 80.6% Croatian + 19.4% South_Italian @ 3.59
16 51.5% Romanian + 48.5% Croatian @ 3.59
17 71.5% Croatian + 28.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.61
18 68.7% Bulgarian + 31.3% Polish @ 3.64
19 87.4% Moldavian + 12.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.71
20 63.9% Bulgarian + 36.1% South_Polish @ 3.71
CommonSense
01-14-2021, 09:12 PM
This guy appears to be half-Gypsy or something approximate. Intresting part is that he has a Romanian surname, but spelled in a Serbian manner (Kračun, exists in southern Banat).
Kit WN6671990
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.51
2 East_Med 16.64
3 West_Med 16.11
4 South_Asian 15.22
5 West_Asian 14.11
6 North_Atlantic 13.52
7 East_Asian 1.09
8 Northeast_African 1.02
9 Amerindian 0.77
10 Oceanian 0.54
11 Siberian 0.47
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 16.14
2 Greek_Thessaly 16.74
3 Romanian 16.87
4 Serbian 19.36
5 Moldavian 20.58
6 Central_Greek 20.74
7 East_Sicilian 21.53
8 Italian_Abruzzo 21.66
9 West_Sicilian 22.7
10 Ashkenazi 22.98
11 Tuscan 23.18
12 Croatian 23.71
13 South_Italian 23.91
14 North_Italian 24.6
15 Hungarian 24.66
16 Turkish 26.57
17 Austrian 27.36
18 Tatar 27.56
19 Tadjik 27.57
20 Turkmen 27.58
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.9% Bulgarian + 23.1% Dharkar @ 4.2
2 78.5% Bulgarian + 21.5% Velamas @ 4.29
3 77.3% Bulgarian + 22.7% Kanjar @ 4.33
4 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% North_Kannadi @ 4.34
5 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Dusadh @ 4.34
6 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Kurumba @ 4.44
7 79.6% Bulgarian + 20.4% Piramalai @ 4.46
8 78.3% Bulgarian + 21.7% Kol @ 4.46
9 77.9% Bulgarian + 22.1% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.64
10 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Chenchu @ 4.66
11 80% Bulgarian + 20% Sakilli @ 4.68
12 79.9% Bulgarian + 20.1% Chamar @ 4.69
13 75.1% Bulgarian + 24.9% Kshatriya @ 4.74
14 75.2% Bulgarian + 24.8% Bangladeshi @ 4.78
15 75.3% Bulgarian + 24.7% Gujarati @ 4.99
16 73.9% Bulgarian + 26.1% Brahmin_UP @ 5.32
17 78.2% Romanian + 21.8% Velamas @ 6.17
18 76.7% Romanian + 23.3% Dharkar @ 6.26
19 78.6% Romanian + 21.4% Dusadh @ 6.32
20 78.5% Romanian + 21.5% Kurumba @ 6.42
But the funny part is yet to come. I googled his name and found the instagram account (https://www.instagram.com/fallout_newvegass/) where he posted the regions he got on 23andMe in great detail. Of course, he only said he had two grandparents who are Serbs from Bosnia and Croatia. No mention of having a Gypsy parent whatsoever
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Ion Basescul
01-14-2021, 09:24 PM
This guy appears to be half-Gypsy or something approximate. Intresting part is that he has a Romanian surname, but spelled in a Serbian manner (Kračun, exists in southern Banat).
Kit WN6671990
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.51
2 East_Med 16.64
3 West_Med 16.11
4 South_Asian 15.22
5 West_Asian 14.11
6 North_Atlantic 13.52
7 East_Asian 1.09
8 Northeast_African 1.02
9 Amerindian 0.77
10 Oceanian 0.54
11 Siberian 0.47
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 16.14
2 Greek_Thessaly 16.74
3 Romanian 16.87
4 Serbian 19.36
5 Moldavian 20.58
6 Central_Greek 20.74
7 East_Sicilian 21.53
8 Italian_Abruzzo 21.66
9 West_Sicilian 22.7
10 Ashkenazi 22.98
11 Tuscan 23.18
12 Croatian 23.71
13 South_Italian 23.91
14 North_Italian 24.6
15 Hungarian 24.66
16 Turkish 26.57
17 Austrian 27.36
18 Tatar 27.56
19 Tadjik 27.57
20 Turkmen 27.58
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.9% Bulgarian + 23.1% Dharkar @ 4.2
2 78.5% Bulgarian + 21.5% Velamas @ 4.29
3 77.3% Bulgarian + 22.7% Kanjar @ 4.33
4 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% North_Kannadi @ 4.34
5 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Dusadh @ 4.34
6 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Kurumba @ 4.44
7 79.6% Bulgarian + 20.4% Piramalai @ 4.46
8 78.3% Bulgarian + 21.7% Kol @ 4.46
9 77.9% Bulgarian + 22.1% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.64
10 78.7% Bulgarian + 21.3% Chenchu @ 4.66
11 80% Bulgarian + 20% Sakilli @ 4.68
12 79.9% Bulgarian + 20.1% Chamar @ 4.69
13 75.1% Bulgarian + 24.9% Kshatriya @ 4.74
14 75.2% Bulgarian + 24.8% Bangladeshi @ 4.78
15 75.3% Bulgarian + 24.7% Gujarati @ 4.99
16 73.9% Bulgarian + 26.1% Brahmin_UP @ 5.32
17 78.2% Romanian + 21.8% Velamas @ 6.17
18 76.7% Romanian + 23.3% Dharkar @ 6.26
19 78.6% Romanian + 21.4% Dusadh @ 6.32
20 78.5% Romanian + 21.5% Kurumba @ 6.42
But the funny part is yet to come. I googled his name and found the instagram account (https://www.instagram.com/fallout_newvegass/) where he posted the regions he got on 23andMe in great detail. Of course, he only said he had two grandparents who are Serbs from Bosnia and Croatia. No mention of having a Gypsy parent whatsoever
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Very weak connection to Romania though, even with Greece it is stronger. And yeah, I don't understand people who don't accept themselves.
Alenka
01-14-2021, 09:50 PM
This guy appears to be half-Gypsy or something approximate. Intresting part is that he has a Romanian surname, but spelled in a Serbian manner (Kračun, exists in southern Banat).
Are you sure that's a Romanian surname? What's the original Romanian spelling version of it?
That aside, he indeed seems to have have a chunk of Gypsy ancestry.
CommonSense
01-14-2021, 10:02 PM
Very weak connection to Romania though, even with Greece it is stronger. And yeah, I don't understand people who don't accept themselves.
He was probably raised in the same manner Mortimer was, being told he was merely another Serb. The difference is that Mortimer always had his doubts and and wasn't ashamed to accept the truth. Btw, the connection with Romania is weak because his father is likely one of those romanised Bayash Gypsies, they don't have much actual Romanian ancestry.
Are you sure that's a Romanian surname? What's the original Romanian spelling version of it?
That aside, he indeed seems to have have a chunk of Gypsy ancestry.
Yes. It's obviosuly derived from Crăciun.
He was probably raised in the same manner Mortimer was, being told he was merely another Serb. The difference is that Mortimer always had his doubts and and wasn't ashamed to accept the truth. Btw, the connection with Romania is weak because his father is likely one of those romanised Bayash Gypsies, they don't have much actual Romanian ancestry.
Mortimer's mother is a full-blown Tzigane. There are less apparent cases (partial Romani origin).
Alenka
01-14-2021, 10:11 PM
Yes. It's obviosuly derived from Crăciun.
Wow, good find. It obviously derives from that, pretty much an exact match.
Interesting. I asked because with the spelling Kračun, the highest frequency per capita is in Slovenia, and I always assumed it was a local surname. This country doesn't have a notable Romanian minority, but I guess some have been assimilated.
CommonSense
01-14-2021, 10:23 PM
Wow, good find. It obviously derives from that, pretty much an exact match.
Interesting. I asked because with the spelling Kračun, the highest frequency per capita is in Slovenia, and I always assumed it was a local surname. This country doesn't have a notable Romanian minority, but I guess some have been assimilated.
In Serbia it exists only in Banat and Novi Sad. I have a friend from Banat who also has a surname that derives from the Romanian language, though that ancestor was probably an actual ethnic Romanian in his case.
Mortimer's mother is a full-blown Tzigane. There are less apparent cases (partial Romani origin).
So is this guy's parent (his father most likely). I don't see what you're trying to say here.
So is this guy's parent (his father most likely). I don't see what you're trying to say here.
I don't know if Mortimer was raised strictly Serbian. He was not raised in Serbia but in Austria. We don't know what his upbringing would've been like had he been raised in his home country.
CommonSense
01-14-2021, 10:33 PM
I don't know if Mortimer was raised strictly Serbian. He was not raised in Serbia but in Austria. We don't know what his upbringing would've been like had he been raised in his home country.
His mom, who has no Serbian ancestry, identifies herself as a Serbian woman and that's how she raised her kids. This guy is also diaspora, though I have no idea if he grew up abroad or here.
CommonSense
01-14-2021, 10:52 PM
Romanian. One grandparent born in Anenii Noi, Moldova. The rest are from Muntenia:
Kit JY9642649
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.46
2 North_Atlantic 21.69
3 East_Med 19.32
4 West_Med 17.48
5 West_Asian 9.88
6 Siberian 1.89
7 Northeast_African 1.1
8 Red_Sea 0.78
9 Oceanian 0.62
10 Amerindian 0.51
11 East_Asian 0.28
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.6
2 Romanian 3.97
3 Serbian 6.37
4 Moldavian 10.56
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.72
6 Croatian 13.47
7 Hungarian 13.91
8 Austrian 17.27
9 Tuscan 17.42
10 North_Italian 17.66
11 Italian_Abruzzo 18.51
12 Central_Greek 18.68
13 East_German 18.84
14 West_Sicilian 19.67
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.69
16 East_Sicilian 19.87
17 South_Polish 20.51
18 Ukrainian 20.76
19 Ashkenazi 20.9
20 West_German 21.44
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92% Bulgarian + 8% East_Finnish @ 2.35
2 90.9% Bulgarian + 9.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.35
3 91.3% Bulgarian + 8.7% Erzya @ 2.41
4 92.1% Bulgarian + 7.9% Finnish @ 2.49
5 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Estonian @ 2.52
6 91% Bulgarian + 9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.52
7 90.1% Bulgarian + 9.9% Southwest_Russian @ 2.53
8 93.6% Bulgarian + 6.4% Mari @ 2.55
9 92.7% Bulgarian + 7.3% Chuvash @ 2.55
10 89% Bulgarian + 11% Ukrainian @ 2.55
11 91.3% Bulgarian + 8.7% Belorussian @ 2.56
12 92.5% Bulgarian + 7.5% Lithuanian @ 2.58
13 91.3% Bulgarian + 8.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.65
14 89% Bulgarian + 11% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.68
15 89.5% Bulgarian + 10.5% South_Polish @ 2.69
16 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.69
17 90.9% Bulgarian + 9.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.7
18 90.9% Bulgarian + 9.1% Polish @ 2.7
19 81.3% Bulgarian + 18.7% Moldavian @ 2.74
20 84.9% Bulgarian + 15.1% Croatian @ 2.74
Now this result has a face too! This sample belongs to our new member Vrazijadivizija :)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?339939-New-to-this-classify-thanks-in-advance-)
Can I see his Dodecad K12b results? Just curious how much North_European he scores.
Ion Basescul
01-15-2021, 05:32 PM
Romanian. One grandparent born in Anenii Noi, Moldova. The rest are from Muntenia:
Kit JY9642649
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.46
2 North_Atlantic 21.69
3 East_Med 19.32
4 West_Med 17.48
5 West_Asian 9.88
6 Siberian 1.89
7 Northeast_African 1.1
8 Red_Sea 0.78
9 Oceanian 0.62
10 Amerindian 0.51
11 East_Asian 0.28
Good fit
Target: 3/4Muntenia_1/4MD
Distance: 2.8198% / 2.81975236
81.1 Romania_Muntenia
18.9 Moldova_average
Slightly better fit with the only sample from Anenii Noi that I have.
Target: 3/4Muntenia_1/4MD
Distance: 2.4457% / 2.44566030
85.3 Romania_Muntenia
14.7 Moldova_AneniiNoi
Peterski
01-16-2021, 11:18 AM
Czech from South Moravia:
K13:
Population
North_Atlantic 34.6 Pct
Baltic 37.9 Pct
West_Med 10.9 Pct
West_Asian 6.91 Pct
East_Med 7.98 Pct
Red_Sea 1.32 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.4 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
K15:
Population
North_Sea 22.69 Pct
Atlantic 23.21 Pct
Baltic 25.22 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.43 Pct
West_Med 5.69 Pct
West_Asian 5.64 Pct
East_Med 3.51 Pct
Red_Sea 1.62 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
K12b:
Population
Gedrosia 5.16 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 26.16 Pct
North_European 51.2 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.14 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 16.35 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Czech from South Moravia:
Fits very well with Czech average
Distance to: Czech_South_Moravia
2.84418705 Czech
4.64492196 Slovak
4.69298413 Sorb_Lusatia
5.90133883 German_East
6.16610087 Hungarian_Northern
6.20257205 South_Polish
6.29324241 Slovenian
7.14828651 Croat_North
7.41138988 Ukrainian_Galicia
7.53806341 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.08922740 Hungarian
8.64242443 Hungarian_Alföld
8.79558412 Ukrainian_Carpathian
9.16467130 Moldova_Ukrainian
9.26068032 Austrian
9.60676324 Masurian
9.76247919 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.87214769 Polish
9.99478364 Croat
10.15882867 Croat_East
11.18558447 Croat_West
11.41891413 Ukrainian
12.40178616 Southwest_Finnish
12.69599543 Csángó-Ceangău
12.77001958 Hungarian_Transylvania
Target: Czech_South_Moravia
Distance: 1.8555% / 1.85551731 | ADC: 0.25x RC
71.1 Sorb_Lusatia
22.2 Austrian
4.2 North_German
2.5 Lezgin
Croat from western Herzegovina, haplogroup R1a
Admix Results (sorted):
1 Baltic 35.84
2 North_Atlantic 25.87
3 West_Med 14.79
4 East_Med 13.16
5 West_Asian 6.81
6 Red_Sea 2.29
7 Northeast_African 0.72
8 Amerindian 0.41
9 Siberian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
1 Croatian 3.83
2 Moldavian 4.77
3 Hungarian 7.64
4 Serbian 8.37
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.3
6 South_Polish 9.97
7 Ukrainian 10.25
8 Romanian 11.86
9 Austrian 12
10 East_German 12.1
11 Polish 13.13
12 Southwest_Russian 13.4
13 Bulgarian 13.62
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.89
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.04
16 Estonian_Polish 15.38
17 Belorussian 15.95
18 Kargopol_Russian 18.01
19 Southwest_Finnish 19.08
20 West_German 19.6
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 59.3% Lithuanian + 40.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.04
2 74.7% Polish + 25.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.15
3 66.2% Estonian_Polish + 33.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.22
4 63.1% Polish + 36.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.26
5 79.3% Ukrainian + 20.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.27
6 74.7% Polish + 25.3% Italian_Jewish @ 2.28
7 70.6% Polish + 29.4% Ashkenazi @ 2.32
8 58.3% Belorussian + 41.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.33
9 54.1% Bulgarian + 45.9% Belorussian @ 2.4
10 59.2% Estonian_Polish + 40.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.4
11 66.7% Russian_Smolensk + 33.3% West_Sicilian @ 2.41
12 53.1% Bulgarian + 46.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.42
13 79.3% Ukrainian + 20.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.43
14 52% Lithuanian + 48% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.48
15 56.7% Romanian + 43.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.49
16 50.9% Polish + 49.1% Bulgarian @ 2.49
17 70.1% Polish + 29.9% East_Sicilian @ 2.52
18 95.3% Croatian + 4.7% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.54
19 79.5% Ukrainian + 20.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.55
20 75.8% Ukrainian + 24.2% Ashkenazi @ 2.56
Franjo,25.87,35.84,14.79,6.81,13.16,2.29,0,0,0.11, 0.41,0,0.72,0
Distance to: Franjo
2.85473291 Croat_East
4.03346005 Croat
4.24750515 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
4.42526835 Bosniak
4.54177278 Moldova_North
4.68737667 Croat_South
4.88165955 Ukrainian_Carpathian
5.27628657 Croat_West
5.51372832 Hungarian_Alföld
5.59865162 Croat_North
6.12366720 Hungarian_Northern
6.25728376 Serb_north
6.56980213 Hungarian
6.72805321 Romania_Moldavia_North
7.02207946 Slovenian
7.28104388 Moldova_Centre
7.36105971 Moldova_average
7.45466968 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
7.71726636 Serb_central
7.74637334 Serb
7.76198428 Slovak
7.86709603 Ukrainian_Galicia
7.90845118 Csángó-Ceangău
8.28499246 Székely
8.40351712 Hungarian_Transylvania
Target: Franjo
Distance: 1.6843% / 1.68434687 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.1 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
27.7 Croat_South
13.1 Croat_East
2.1 Yemenite_Jewish
You can check out his Myheritage results in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MRXlodMk1c&ab_channel=FranjoLeko
Varda
02-05-2021, 05:22 AM
Montenegrin, according to surname.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=105823&d=1612506138
Varda
02-05-2021, 10:06 AM
сссс
Croatian from central Bosnia https://www.forum.hr/showpost.php?p=84426353&postcount=459
Montenegrin, according to surname.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=105823&d=1612506138
Don't post such crap here, not interested, surname means nothing. Origins of the person are unknown, I said I don't want such samples here in the OP. Are you mentally retarded?
Croatian from central Bosnia https://www.forum.hr/showpost.php?p=84426353&postcount=459
No gedmatch results visible, pretty irrelevant.
Varda
02-05-2021, 01:27 PM
No gedmatch results visible, pretty irrelevant.
Ask him.
PAGANE
02-05-2021, 01:41 PM
[QUOTE = Roy; 7076326] Кои са по-близки до поляците генетично погледнато: македонци или българи? [/ QUOTE]
Macedonians, because genetically they are more Slavic than Bulgarians. Bulgarians have more western Asia and the Caucasus
[QUOTE = Roy; 7076326] Кои са по-близки до поляците генетично погледнато: македонци или българи? [/ QUOTE]
Macedonians, because genetically they are more Slavic than Bulgarians. Bulgarians have more western Asia and the Caucasus
Bulgarian average is more Slavic than Macedonian one.
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