South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results - vol.2

[Jana]

Old Vbnethkio's thread is locked, let's continue here :)

Link to the old thread: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results

Note: it would be good if no samples were posted if they were not validated. Posting samples with unknown ancestry and only surname or matches known is not serious, let's avoid that.

[Jana]

Croat who is half from Drniš, Dalmatian hinterland, and half from Livno, Tropolje. So of fully dinaric alps Croat ancestry.
He belongs to eastern/yamnaya R1b-L23, but suprisingly his branch doesn't seem native Illyrian/Albanian one, but is quite exotic.
So far only men from Armenia, Poland and Saudi Arabia are in his yfull subclade.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-BY35053/

His K13 values

North_Atlantic 29.01
Baltic 28.92
West_Med 18.46
West_Asian 7.87
East_Med 10.57
Red_Sea 2.24
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.53
Siberian 0.78
Amerindian 0.94
Oceanian 0.68
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan_African -

[Jana]

Freshly validated Croats from Herzegovina, from village Bivolje Brdo which is in Čapljina municipality.

1)

North_Atlantic 24.74
Baltic 31.98
West_Med 14.99
West_Asian 9.23
East_Med 16.08
Red_Sea 0.36
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.16
Siberian 1.34
Amerindian 1.13
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan_African -

2)

North_Atlantic 20.78
Baltic 34.37
West_Med 14.88
West_Asian 9.93
East_Med 18.23
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.14
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.75
Amerindian 0.76
Oceanian 0.15
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan_African -

3)

North_Atlantic 27.89
Baltic 29.48
West_Med 16.13
West_Asian 7.71
East_Med 16.87
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.65
Amerindian 0.83
Oceanian 0.36
Northeast_African 0.07
Sub-Saharan_African -

[Leto]

Note: it would be good if no samples were posted if they were not validated. Posting samples with unknown ancestry and only surname or matches known is not serious, let's avoid that.
If it's a clear South Slav but without a detailed genealogy, why not share them?

[Jana]

If it's a clear South Slav but without a detailed genealogy, why not share them?

Because can be ethnic mix, or different ethnicity than we suspect, many surnames overlap between nations.
It's best to e-mail them :)

[Jana]

Academic sample of Zagreb Croat who is outlier and has fully Albanian genetic profile. His top matches are all Albanians too, he barely matches any Croats, at first look I don't notice any.
Won't be included in my statistics, ofcourse. But it's still possible it's actual Croat from Kosovo (Janjevac). Sadly it can't be checked.

North_Atlantic 17.83 Pct
Baltic 21.80 Pct
West_Med 22.01 Pct
West_Asian 12.02 Pct
East_Med 24.24 Pct
Red_Sea 1.62 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.48 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[Jana]

Croats from Sinj, Dalmatian hinterland

1)

North_Atlantic 24.34
Baltic 32.60
West_Med 17.42
West_Asian 9.62
East_Med 11.85
Red_Sea 2.24
South_Asian 0.06
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.15
Amerindian 1.09
Oceanian 0.73
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

2)

North_Atlantic 27.17
Baltic 31.16
West_Med 16.13
West_Asian 7.92
East_Med 13.33
Red_Sea 1.35
South_Asian 0.06
East_Asian 0.19
Siberian 1.14
Amerindian 0.51
Oceanian 0.49
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

3)

North_Atlantic 21.13
Baltic 33.39
West_Med 19.86
West_Asian 8.35
East_Med 15.05
Red_Sea 0.34
South_Asian 0.25
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.11
Amerindian 0.81
Oceanian 0.25
Northeast_African 0.11
Sub-Saharan 0.35

4)

North_Atlantic 25.22
Baltic 32.28
West_Med 15.75
West_Asian 8.25
East_Med 14.91
Red_Sea 1.83
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.24
Siberian 0.22
Amerindian 0.31
Oceanian 0.90
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

5)

North_Atlantic 30.66
Baltic 29.67
West_Med 16.60
West_Asian 10.04
East_Med 11.56
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.19
Siberian 0.09
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.98
Northeast_African 0.20
Sub-Saharan -

[Jana]

Croats from Herzegovina, all from several villages around Mostar. I just spoke with their account menager, she was very kind and helpful :)

1)

North_Atlantic 25.57 Pct
Baltic 31.57 Pct
West_Med 17.27 Pct
West_Asian 9.17 Pct
East_Med 13.67 Pct
Red_Sea 0.17 Pct
South_Asian 1.08 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.19 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.48 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.78 Pct

2)

North_Atlantic 31.24 Pct
Baltic 28.80 Pct
West_Med 18.70 Pct
West_Asian 7.53 Pct
East_Med 11.65 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.26 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.83 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

3)

North_Atlantic 22.19 Pct
Baltic 35.64 Pct
West_Med 16.03 Pct
West_Asian 7.99 Pct
East_Med 14.58 Pct
Red_Sea 0.63 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.92 Pct
Siberian 0.38 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.85 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.79 Pct

4)

North_Atlantic 27.03 Pct
Baltic 31.26 Pct
West_Med 15.41 Pct
West_Asian 10.04 Pct
East_Med 14.23 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.05 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.99 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

5)

North_Atlantic 28.89 Pct
Baltic 30.02 Pct
West_Med 13.90 Pct
West_Asian 7.71 Pct
East_Med 16.42 Pct
Red_Sea 1.67 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.29 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.08 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

6)

North_Atlantic 27.16 Pct
Baltic 29.16 Pct
West_Med 19.85 Pct
West_Asian 10.50 Pct
East_Med 10.48 Pct
Red_Sea 1.32 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.42 Pct
Oceanian 0.73 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.38 Pct

7)

North_Atlantic 19.76 Pct
Baltic 35.05 Pct
West_Med 19.78 Pct
West_Asian 8.15 Pct
East_Med 14.69 Pct
Red_Sea 0.71 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.60 Pct
Amerindian 1.02 Pct
Oceanian 0.24 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

8)

North_Atlantic 23.66 Pct
Baltic 33.18 Pct
West_Med 14.10 Pct
West_Asian 8.62 Pct
East_Med 16.69 Pct
Red_Sea 0.96 Pct
South_Asian 0.23 Pct
East_Asian 1.10 Pct
Siberian 0.15 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 1.01 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.30 Pct

9)

North_Atlantic 25.28 Pct
Baltic 29.52 Pct
West_Med 14.96 Pct
West_Asian 11.40 Pct
East_Med 14.14 Pct
Red_Sea 2.02 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.49 Pct
Siberian 1.15 Pct
Amerindian 0.45 Pct
Oceanian 0.59 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[JohnnyP]

Macedonian Gedmatch
https://i.imgur.com/ghbU0JQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yH819lh.jpg

[Pribislav]

Serb from Lika (his y dna is J2b1-M205).
Maybe me or someone else already earlier posted him I'm not sure, few Serbs with his surname and from his region was tested.

K13 97595

K15 97596

[Pribislav]

Serb from Kordun or Gorski Kotar, surname Mamula like this Partisan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branko_Mamula

K13

# Population percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.02
2 Baltic 30.41
3 West_Med 15.12
4 East_Med 12.91
5 West_Asian 6.41
6 Red_Sea 2.62
7 East_Asian 0.84
8 Siberian 0.37
9 Oceanian 0.3

# Population source Distance
1 Hungarian 4.21
2 Serbian 5.63
3 Austrian 5.92
4 Croatian 7.1
5 Moldavian 7.61
6 East_German 8.28
7 Romanian 10.11
8 South_Polish 12.56
9 Bulgarian 12.8

[Ion Basescul]

Serb from Kordun or Gorski Kotar, surname Mamula like this Partisan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branko_Mamula

K13

# Population percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.02
2 Baltic 30.41
3 West_Med 15.12
4 East_Med 12.91
5 West_Asian 6.41
6 Red_Sea 2.62
7 East_Asian 0.84
8 Siberian 0.37
9 Oceanian 0.3

# Population source Distance
1 Hungarian 4.21
2 Serbian 5.63
3 Austrian 5.92
4 Croatian 7.1
5 Moldavian 7.61
6 East_German 8.28
7 Romanian 10.11
8 South_Polish 12.56
9 Bulgarian 12.8

Could you post their K36?

[Pribislav]

Could you post their K36?

If you are interested you have kit of first guy already.

Here is kit of second guy 97600

K15 of second guy 97602

[vbnetkhio]

Old Vbnethkio's thread is locked, let's continue here :)

Link to the old thread: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results

Note: it would be good if no samples were posted if they were not validated. Posting samples with unknown ancestry and only surname or matches known is not serious, let's avoid that.

is this thread even necessary? there are separate threads for each ethnicty. this one will also get overcrowded quickly.

[Pribislav]

Here is kit of second guy 97600

K15 of second guy 97602

Regardless of high North_Atlantic, Atlantic & North_Sea score on both K13 and K15 he is closer to Serbs than to Croatians - Serbs no 2, Croatians no 4. :thumb001:

[Ion Basescul]

Serb from Lika (his y dna is J2b1-M205).
Maybe me or someone else already earlier posted him I'm not sure, few Serbs with his surname and from his region was tested.

K13 97595

K15 97596

His K36
Target: Serb_Lika
Distance: 1143.5196% / 11.43519567 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Romania_NE


Target: Serb_Lika
Distance: 1088.0914% / 10.88091387 | ADC: 1x
66.8 Romania_NE
17.2 Moldavian
8.8 Dalmatian_Serbian
5.8 Romania_NW
1.4 Serbian


Target: Serb_Lika
Distance: 953.8307% / 9.53830699 | ADC: 0.5x
42.6 Moldavian
20.6 Romania_NW
17.8 Serbian
9.6 Spain_Aragon
7.8 Romania_NE
1.6 Carpathian_Rusyns


Target: Serb_Lika
Distance: 901.3334% / 9.01333421 | ADC: 0.25x
24.8 Romania_NW
20.8 Moldavian
20.0 Serbian
15.2 Russian_Tambov
15.2 Spain_Aragon
4.0 Ukrainian_West

Distance to: Serb_Lika
11.43519567 Romania_NE
11.68745909 Serbian
11.86648642 Dalmatian_Serbian
12.50607053 Hungary
12.61114983 Romania_NW
12.99788829 Moldavian
13.26930292 Slovenian
13.32370819 Romania_SE
13.39233363 Croatian
13.81874452 Bosnian
14.11534272 Carpathian_Rusyns
14.23422987 Romania_Central
14.25136485 Austria
14.29254001 Montenegrian
15.20713977 Slovak
15.21805178 Czechs_Moravians
15.77366159 Bulgaria
16.05154510 Romania_SW
16.24205960 PL_South_Poland
16.84040676 PL_SE_Carpathia
16.90714050 PL_Upper_Silesia
16.90724697 Macedonia_FYROM
17.07348236 BLG_Turk
18.02253867 Ukrainian_West
18.54828833 Germany_East

[Ion Basescul]

Serb from Kordun or Gorski Kotar, surname Mamula like this Partisan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branko_Mamula

K13

# Population percent
1 North_Atlantic 31.02
2 Baltic 30.41
3 West_Med 15.12
4 East_Med 12.91
5 West_Asian 6.41
6 Red_Sea 2.62
7 East_Asian 0.84
8 Siberian 0.37
9 Oceanian 0.3

# Population source Distance
1 Hungarian 4.21
2 Serbian 5.63
3 Austrian 5.92
4 Croatian 7.1
5 Moldavian 7.61
6 East_German 8.28
7 Romanian 10.11
8 South_Polish 12.56
9 Bulgarian 12.8

Very Serb results

K36
Target: Serb_Croatia_Kordun
Distance: 662.7503% / 6.62750330 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Austria


Target: Serb_Croatia_Kordun
Distance: 616.6159% / 6.16615899 | ADC: 1x
90.4 Austria
9.6 Romania_Central


Target: Serb_Croatia_Kordun
Distance: 570.8958% / 5.70895784 | ADC: 0.5x
77.4 Austria
22.2 Romania_Central
0.4 Italy_Sardinia


Target: Serb_Croatia_Kordun
Distance: 495.2235% / 4.95223464 | ADC: 0.25x
55.2 Austria
17.6 Romania_Central
6.4 Romania_NW
5.8 Ukrainian_West
3.8 Italy_Friuli
3.8 Orcadian
3.4 Spain_Galicia
2.6 Vepsian
1.4 Italy_Sardinia

Distance to: Serb_Croatia_Kordun
6.62750330 Austria
8.56476503 Hungary
9.73565612 Slovenian
10.14203628 Romania_Central
10.20800176 Romania_NE
10.65133794 Croatian
10.87984834 Serbian
10.88555465 Czechs_Moravians
11.11796294 German_South
11.49478577 Romania_NW
11.52785756 Dalmatian_Serbian
11.99279367 Slovak
12.33696478 Germany_West
12.37806124 Romania_SE
12.38720307 Germany_East
12.59617799 Montenegrian
12.78680179 German_Volga
13.10536150 Moldavian
13.16745609 Bosnian
13.70393009 Romania_SW
13.89387275 Swiss_German
14.20565028 Carpathian_Rusyns
14.20978888 Austria_Tyrol
14.98132170 Germany_North
15.14423653 Italy_Friuli

[CommonSense]

Uploaded my mom's raw data to FTDNA, now I have access to some new matches and family trees.

Seferović, Bosniak from Ljubija (Prijedor):



Kit RX6196347

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.49
2 North_Atlantic 26.58
3 West_Med 15.49
4 East_Med 14.6
5 West_Asian 7.9
6 Red_Sea 3.54
7 Siberian 0.62
8 Northeast_African 0.31
9 East_Asian 0.3
10 Oceanian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.43
2 Moldavian 5.76
3 Croatian 7.13
4 Romanian 7.32
5 Hungarian 7.32
6 Bulgarian 9.58
7 Austrian 10.96
8 East_German 12.21
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.47
10 South_Polish 13.98
11 Ukrainian 14.77
12 West_German 17.12
13 Polish 17.48
14 Greek_Thessaly 17.88
15 Southwest_Russian 18.06
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.42
17 South_Dutch 18.52
18 French 18.97
19 Russian_Smolensk 19.63
20 North_Italian 19.89

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59% Polish + 41% West_Sicilian @ 1.66
2 54.3% Southwest_Russian + 45.7% Tuscan @ 1.69
3 87% Serbian + 13% Estonian_Polish @ 1.69
4 53.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.2% Tuscan @ 1.71
5 87.4% Serbian + 12.6% Belorussian @ 1.76
6 89.5% Serbian + 10.5% Lithuanian @ 1.78
7 52.2% Russian_Smolensk + 47.8% Tuscan @ 1.79
8 87% Serbian + 13% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.79
9 56.2% Russian_Smolensk + 43.8% West_Sicilian @ 1.89
10 86.2% Serbian + 13.8% Southwest_Russian @ 1.89
11 82.4% Serbian + 17.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.91
12 85.9% Serbian + 14.1% Polish @ 1.93
13 83.8% Serbian + 16.2% Ukrainian @ 1.93
14 70.8% Serbian + 29.2% Croatian @ 1.96
15 64.4% South_Polish + 35.6% West_Sicilian @ 2.01
16 86.8% Serbian + 13.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.02
17 83.3% Croatian + 16.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.06
18 65.1% South_Polish + 34.9% East_Sicilian @ 2.06
19 89.9% Serbian + 10.1% Estonian @ 2.08
20 55.1% Belorussian + 44.9% West_Sicilian @ 2.09

[CommonSense]

Vidović, Serb from Kordun and Ravni Kotari (Dalmatia):



Kit T090656

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.15
2 North_Atlantic 21.63
3 West_Med 17.65
4 East_Med 13.94
5 West_Asian 12.46
6 Red_Sea 2.42
7 Siberian 0.5
8 Amerindian 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.91
2 Serbian 6.83
3 Romanian 7.4
4 Bulgarian 8.28
5 Croatian 9.1
6 Hungarian 11.78
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.84
8 Austrian 15.39
9 Ukrainian 16.19
10 South_Polish 16.24
11 East_German 16.39
12 Greek_Thessaly 16.86
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.03
14 Southwest_Russian 19.04
15 Polish 19.43
16 Russian_Smolensk 21.01
17 West_German 21.51
18 Tatar 21.55
19 North_Italian 21.59
20 Estonian_Polish 21.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Cyprian @ 3.11
2 60.7% Moldavian + 39.3% Bulgarian @ 3.26
3 82.5% Moldavian + 17.5% Central_Greek @ 3.27
4 90.3% Moldavian + 9.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.41
5 90.1% Moldavian + 9.9% Samaritan @ 3.45
6 77.5% Moldavian + 22.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.46
7 83.7% Moldavian + 16.3% East_Sicilian @ 3.46
8 85.3% Moldavian + 14.7% South_Italian @ 3.48
9 90% Moldavian + 10% Assyrian @ 3.52
10 65.8% Bulgarian + 34.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.52
11 89.9% Moldavian + 10.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.52
12 90.1% Moldavian + 9.9% Armenian @ 3.53
13 89.3% Moldavian + 10.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.55
14 61.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 38.3% Central_Greek @ 3.59
15 90.5% Moldavian + 9.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.61
16 71.5% Bulgarian + 28.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.61
17 81.9% Croatian + 18.1% Cyprian @ 3.63
18 59.5% Ukrainian + 40.5% Central_Greek @ 3.65
19 73.6% Bulgarian + 26.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.7
20 87.8% Moldavian + 12.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.7

[CommonSense]

Breljak, Croat from Bugojno, Bosnia:



Kit H321839

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 34.23
2 North_Atlantic 25.63
3 West_Med 15.62
4 East_Med 11.96
5 West_Asian 7.68
6 Siberian 1.47
7 South_Asian 1.36
8 Red_Sea 1.27
9 Sub-Saharan 0.54
10 Oceanian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 2.88
2 Croatian 3.61
3 Hungarian 7.11
4 Serbian 7.37
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.66
6 South_Polish 10.49
7 Ukrainian 10.77
8 Romanian 10.78
9 Austrian 11.38
10 East_German 11.56
11 Bulgarian 12.73
12 Polish 13.96
13 Southwest_Russian 14.25
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.69
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.96
16 Estonian_Polish 16.36
17 Belorussian 17.04
18 Kargopol_Russian 18.14
19 West_German 18.76
20 Southwest_Finnish 19.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.1% Ukrainian + 26.9% West_Sicilian @ 1.53
2 66.7% Ukrainian + 33.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.68
3 75.5% Ukrainian + 24.5% South_Italian @ 1.72
4 50% Ukrainian + 50% Romanian @ 1.88
5 73.6% Ukrainian + 26.4% East_Sicilian @ 1.93
6 91% Croatian + 9% Ashkenazi @ 1.98
7 92.6% Croatian + 7.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.99
8 72.9% Ukrainian + 27.1% Central_Greek @ 2
9 72.3% Ukrainian + 27.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.03
10 87.7% Croatian + 12.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.04
11 54.3% Ukrainian + 45.7% Bulgarian @ 2.05
12 80.9% Croatian + 19.1% Bulgarian @ 2.07
13 92.8% Croatian + 7.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.1
14 93.7% Croatian + 6.3% Cyprian @ 2.13
15 91% Croatian + 9% East_Sicilian @ 2.14
16 91.8% Croatian + 8.2% South_Italian @ 2.15
17 92.9% Croatian + 7.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.16
18 90.7% Croatian + 9.3% Central_Greek @ 2.16
19 67.4% South_Polish + 32.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.17
20 93.5% Croatian + 6.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.18

[Pribislav]

----

No 1 Serbian, and someone say Krajina Muslims are islamized Croatians.
Bosniak Džajić from Ključ got no 1 Serbian, I posted his K13 on other thread.
I have seen few Bosniaks from Cazinska Krajina most western region of Bosnia with no 1 Serbian.

[CommonSense]

Đulančić, Bosniak from Čajniče and Goražde (east Bosnia):



Kit RW9425244

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.68
2 North_Atlantic 24.03
3 West_Med 17.14
4 East_Med 15.01
5 West_Asian 7
6 South_Asian 1.76
7 Red_Sea 1.31
8 Amerindian 1.03
9 East_Asian 0.48
10 Northeast_African 0.37
11 Siberian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.51
2 Serbian 5.71
3 Croatian 7.25
4 Romanian 7.97
5 Hungarian 9.32
6 Bulgarian 9.49
7 Austrian 13.2
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.53
9 East_German 13.93
10 South_Polish 14.38
11 Ukrainian 14.49
12 Polish 17.68
13 Greek_Thessaly 17.76
14 Southwest_Russian 17.82
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.26
16 West_German 19.45
17 Russian_Smolensk 19.63
18 Estonian_Polish 19.92
19 Belorussian 20.63
20 North_Italian 20.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.2% Ukrainian + 44.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.22
2 70.4% Ukrainian + 29.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.63
3 83.4% Croatian + 16.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.65
4 50.1% Polish + 49.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.68
5 64% Ukrainian + 36% West_Sicilian @ 2.69
6 80% Croatian + 20% Ashkenazi @ 2.7
7 67.2% Ukrainian + 32.8% South_Italian @ 2.73
8 72.3% Croatian + 27.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.75
9 52.9% Greek_Thessaly + 47.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.77
10 70.6% Ukrainian + 29.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.81
11 83.6% Croatian + 16.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.85
12 58.7% Greek_Thessaly + 41.3% Lithuanian @ 2.88
13 64.6% Ukrainian + 35.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.9
14 61.2% Bulgarian + 38.8% Ukrainian @ 3.08
15 57% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.1
16 57.8% Croatian + 42.2% Bulgarian @ 3.1
17 63.7% Ukrainian + 36.3% Central_Greek @ 3.11
18 55.5% South_Polish + 44.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.12
19 50.4% Lithuanian + 49.6% West_Sicilian @ 3.12
20 56.3% Estonian_Polish + 43.7% West_Sicilian @ 3.12

[Pribislav]

No 1 Serbian, and someone say Krajina Muslims are islamized Croatians.
Bosniak Džajić from Ključ got no 1 Serbian, I posted his K13 on other thread.
I have seen few Bosniaks from Cazinska Krajina most western region of Bosnia with no 1 Serbian.

My post refers on Bosniak from Prijedor.

[CommonSense]

No 1 Serbian, and someone say Krajina Muslims are islamized Croatians.
Bosniak Džajić from Ključ got no 1 Serbian, I posted his K13 on other thread.
I have seen few Bosniaks from Cazinska Krajina most western region of Bosnia with no 1 Serbian.

I posted two Bosniaks right here, both are closer to the Serbian than to the Croatian average. Also, there's that guy who Zukorlić uploaded, but I don't have access to their family tree. Carpatz knows of a Bosniak from Romanija who gets 98 Serbian + 2 Papuan (he gets some weird noise australian score) on K13 oracles. The kit is now sadly gone, though I guess the guy could be convinced to reupload.

[CommonSense]

Now here's a Serb with an interesting background.

Bačko, paternally from Knin. 1/4 of total ancestry is from there. 1/2 from Leskovac and the other quarter from Niš, Baranya and Szentendre (in Hungary!)



Kit T702052

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.76
2 North_Atlantic 22.94
3 East_Med 21.59
4 West_Med 17.03
5 West_Asian 7.41
6 Red_Sea 1.11
7 Oceanian 0.77
8 Siberian 0.49
9 Amerindian 0.48
10 Northeast_African 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.5
2 Romanian 5.68
3 Serbian 6.78
4 Moldavian 11.36
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.56
6 Croatian 13.52
7 Hungarian 13.78
8 Austrian 17.14
9 Tuscan 17.76
10 North_Italian 17.97
11 East_German 18.66
12 Italian_Abruzzo 19.41
13 Central_Greek 19.64
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.7
15 West_Sicilian 20.22
16 South_Polish 20.22
17 Ukrainian 20.59
18 East_Sicilian 20.68
19 Ashkenazi 21.02
20 West_German 21.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.9% Ukrainian + 42.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.33
2 50.5% Ukrainian + 49.5% Ashkenazi @ 3.57
3 51% South_Polish + 49% Ashkenazi @ 3.72
4 68.3% Greek_Thessaly + 31.7% Belorussian @ 3.75
5 61.4% Croatian + 38.6% Ashkenazi @ 3.78
6 52.4% Estonian_Polish + 47.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.85
7 52.3% Italian_Jewish + 47.7% Lithuanian @ 3.93
8 53.1% Ashkenazi + 46.9% Polish @ 3.93
9 58.4% South_Polish + 41.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.94
10 68% Greek_Thessaly + 32% Estonian_Polish @ 3.94
11 58.1% Ukrainian + 41.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.97
12 58.5% South_Polish + 41.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4
13 54.4% Polish + 45.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.02
14 72% Greek_Thessaly + 28% Lithuanian @ 4.04
15 51.9% Belorussian + 48.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.08
16 68.4% Croatian + 31.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.12
17 71.7% Greek_Thessaly + 28.3% Estonian @ 4.13
18 52.6% Russian_Smolensk + 47.4% Italian_Jewish @ 4.14
19 52.5% South_Italian + 47.5% Belorussian @ 4.14
20 54.9% Southwest_Russian + 45.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.19

[Pribislav]

Đulančić, Bosniak from Čajniče and Goražde (east Bosnia):



Kit RW9425244

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.68
2 North_Atlantic 24.03
3 West_Med 17.14
4 East_Med 15.01
5 West_Asian 7
6 South_Asian 1.76
7 Red_Sea 1.31
8 Amerindian 1.03
9 East_Asian 0.48
10 Northeast_African 0.37
11 Siberian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.51
2 Serbian 5.71
3 Croatian 7.25
4 Romanian 7.97
5 Hungarian 9.32
6 Bulgarian 9.49
7 Austrian 13.2
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.53
9 East_German 13.93
10 South_Polish 14.38
11 Ukrainian 14.49
12 Polish 17.68
13 Greek_Thessaly 17.76
14 Southwest_Russian 17.82
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.26
16 West_German 19.45
17 Russian_Smolensk 19.63
18 Estonian_Polish 19.92
19 Belorussian 20.63
20 North_Italian 20.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.2% Ukrainian + 44.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.22
2 70.4% Ukrainian + 29.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.63
3 83.4% Croatian + 16.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.65
4 50.1% Polish + 49.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.68
5 64% Ukrainian + 36% West_Sicilian @ 2.69
6 80% Croatian + 20% Ashkenazi @ 2.7
7 67.2% Ukrainian + 32.8% South_Italian @ 2.73
8 72.3% Croatian + 27.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.75
9 52.9% Greek_Thessaly + 47.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.77
10 70.6% Ukrainian + 29.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.81
11 83.6% Croatian + 16.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.85
12 58.7% Greek_Thessaly + 41.3% Lithuanian @ 2.88
13 64.6% Ukrainian + 35.4% East_Sicilian @ 2.9
14 61.2% Bulgarian + 38.8% Ukrainian @ 3.08
15 57% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.1
16 57.8% Croatian + 42.2% Bulgarian @ 3.1
17 63.7% Ukrainian + 36.3% Central_Greek @ 3.11
18 55.5% South_Polish + 44.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.12
19 50.4% Lithuanian + 49.6% West_Sicilian @ 3.12
20 56.3% Estonian_Polish + 43.7% West_Sicilian @ 3.12



Quite similar as Lika Serb Vukovojac 97604

[CommonSense]

Cakić, mother of mr Bačko whom I posted above. Ancestry from Leskovac




Kit T173215

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.5
2 North_Atlantic 25.19
3 East_Med 20.14
4 West_Med 17.08
5 West_Asian 8.3
6 Siberian 1.38
7 Red_Sea 1.29
8 Amerindian 0.73
9 East_Asian 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.52
2 Bulgarian 4.74
3 Serbian 5
4 Moldavian 11.29
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.94
6 Hungarian 12.53
7 Croatian 13.5
8 Austrian 15.35
9 North_Italian 15.61
10 Tuscan 15.91
11 East_German 17.18
12 Italian_Abruzzo 18
13 West_German 18.88
14 Central_Greek 18.99
15 West_Sicilian 19.11
16 French 19.13
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.96
18 East_Sicilian 20.1
19 Portuguese 20.21
20 South_Polish 20.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.4% Greek_Thessaly + 29.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.76
2 83.4% Serbian + 16.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.84
3 57.9% South_Polish + 42.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.98
4 87.4% Serbian + 12.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.04
5 87.6% Serbian + 12.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.08
6 74.6% Serbian + 25.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.08
7 58.5% West_Sicilian + 41.5% Belorussian @ 3.12
8 52.4% West_Sicilian + 47.6% Ukrainian @ 3.13
9 51.3% Greek_Thessaly + 48.7% Hungarian @ 3.17
10 72.3% Greek_Thessaly + 27.7% Finnish @ 3.17
11 57.2% South_Italian + 42.8% Estonian @ 3.18
12 72.6% Greek_Thessaly + 27.4% Estonian @ 3.19
13 88.5% Bulgarian + 11.5% North_Swedish @ 3.2
14 52.4% Bulgarian + 47.6% Serbian @ 3.2
15 55.8% West_Sicilian + 44.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.21
16 67.8% Croatian + 32.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.21
17 58.1% West_Sicilian + 41.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.22
18 51.6% West_Sicilian + 48.4% South_Polish @ 3.25
19 63.6% Greek_Thessaly + 36.4% South_Polish @ 3.25
20 78% Bulgarian + 22% Hungarian @ 3.28

[Pribislav]

Now here's a Serb with an interesting background.

Bačko, paternally from Knin. 1/4 of total ancestry is from there. 1/2 from Leskovac and the other quarter from Niš, Baranya and Szentendre (in Hungary!)



Kit T702052

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.76
2 North_Atlantic 22.94
3 East_Med 21.59
4 West_Med 17.03
5 West_Asian 7.41
6 Red_Sea 1.11
7 Oceanian 0.77
8 Siberian 0.49
9 Amerindian 0.48
10 Northeast_African 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.5
2 Romanian 5.68
3 Serbian 6.78
4 Moldavian 11.36
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.56
6 Croatian 13.52
7 Hungarian 13.78
8 Austrian 17.14
9 Tuscan 17.76
10 North_Italian 17.97
11 East_German 18.66
12 Italian_Abruzzo 19.41
13 Central_Greek 19.64
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.7
15 West_Sicilian 20.22
16 South_Polish 20.22
17 Ukrainian 20.59
18 East_Sicilian 20.68
19 Ashkenazi 21.02
20 West_German 21.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.9% Ukrainian + 42.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.33
2 50.5% Ukrainian + 49.5% Ashkenazi @ 3.57
3 51% South_Polish + 49% Ashkenazi @ 3.72
4 68.3% Greek_Thessaly + 31.7% Belorussian @ 3.75
5 61.4% Croatian + 38.6% Ashkenazi @ 3.78
6 52.4% Estonian_Polish + 47.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.85
7 52.3% Italian_Jewish + 47.7% Lithuanian @ 3.93
8 53.1% Ashkenazi + 46.9% Polish @ 3.93
9 58.4% South_Polish + 41.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.94
10 68% Greek_Thessaly + 32% Estonian_Polish @ 3.94
11 58.1% Ukrainian + 41.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.97
12 58.5% South_Polish + 41.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4
13 54.4% Polish + 45.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.02
14 72% Greek_Thessaly + 28% Lithuanian @ 4.04
15 51.9% Belorussian + 48.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.08
16 68.4% Croatian + 31.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.12
17 71.7% Greek_Thessaly + 28.3% Estonian @ 4.13
18 52.6% Russian_Smolensk + 47.4% Italian_Jewish @ 4.14
19 52.5% South_Italian + 47.5% Belorussian @ 4.14
20 54.9% Southwest_Russian + 45.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.19



He is journalist, and he is I1-P109 but he is not close to Drobnjak clan.
I knew his paternal grandfather was from Ramljane near Knin, but I did not know for other 3/4.
Bačko wrote a book about history of Dalmatian Serb familes, on the photo is one of his paternal ancestors
https://porodicnoporeklo.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/korice-konacna-verzija.jpg?w=660

[Jana]

is this thread even necessary? there are separate threads for each ethnicty. this one will also get overcrowded quickly.

I think it won't be problem, validated samples are hard to come by.
Croats from Grude you mentioned, are those academic kits from Herzegovina you already posted or something else?


Regardless of high North_Atlantic, Atlantic & North_Sea score on both K13 and K15 he is closer to Serbs than to Croatians - Serbs no 2, Croatians no 4. :thumb001:

Both are obsolete and based on results of one person each darling.

[Jana]

No 1 Serbian, and someone say Krajina Muslims are islamized Croatians.

Those native to NW Bosnia ofcourse are, and they are well aware of it. But there was population replacement in ''Turkish Croatia'' and many of the people currently living in that region including Serbs have origins from elsewhere.

[CommonSense]

Munteanu, Romanian. All surnames listed are Romanian, but I don't know where they're from.



Kit MS8808911

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.32
2 East_Med 20.94
3 North_Atlantic 19.93
4 West_Med 17.29
5 West_Asian 11.99
6 Siberian 1.39
7 Amerindian 1.02
8 Red_Sea 0.79
9 Sub-Saharan 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.22
2 Romanian 5.16
3 Serbian 8.48
4 Greek_Thessaly 10.67
5 Moldavian 12.15
6 Croatian 15.25
7 Hungarian 16.01
8 Central_Greek 17.29
9 Italian_Abruzzo 17.65
10 Tuscan 17.71
11 East_Sicilian 18.69
12 North_Italian 18.76
13 West_Sicilian 19.13
14 Austrian 19.47
15 Ashkenazi 19.69
16 East_German 21.06
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.29
18 South_Italian 21.7
19 South_Polish 22.23
20 Ukrainian 22.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.6% Bulgarian + 4.4% Mari @ 2.71
2 95% Bulgarian + 5% Chuvash @ 2.71
3 94.5% Bulgarian + 5.5% Erzya @ 2.74
4 95.4% Bulgarian + 4.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.91
5 94.7% Bulgarian + 5.3% Tatar @ 2.92
6 94.8% Bulgarian + 5.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.93
7 98% Bulgarian + 2% Selkup @ 2.93
8 95.1% Bulgarian + 4.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.95
9 98.1% Bulgarian + 1.9% Ket @ 2.98
10 97.4% Bulgarian + 2.6% MA-1 @ 2.98
11 96.6% Bulgarian + 3.4% Lithuanian @ 3.01
12 96% Bulgarian + 4% Estonian_Polish @ 3.01
13 96.3% Bulgarian + 3.7% Belorussian @ 3.04
14 96.9% Bulgarian + 3.1% East_Finnish @ 3.04
15 96.2% Bulgarian + 3.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.04
16 95.7% Bulgarian + 4.3% Ukrainian @ 3.06
17 98.6% Bulgarian + 1.4% West_Greenlander @ 3.08
18 59.1% Central_Greek + 40.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.08
19 97.2% Bulgarian + 2.8% Estonian @ 3.09
20 98.4% Bulgarian + 1.6% Shors @ 3.1

[Pribislav]

I think it won't be problem, validated samples are hard to come by.
Croats from Grude you mentioned, are those academic kits from Herzegovina you already posted or something else?



Both are obsolete and based on results of one person each darling.

My point was how is possible that Serb with 31% North_Atlantic and 30% Baltic is still closer to official Serbian than Croatian average.

[Jana]

My point was how is possible that Serb with 31% North_Atlantic and 30% Baltic is still closer to official Serbian than Croatian average.

Because that officicial averages mean nothing, Serb average is one person, Croatian is one person.
I think results I posted so far demonstrate how innacurate this averages is (they are not averages either, because average means it is at least two samples), especially Croatian.

Those are proper academic averages from research papers if we are talking about capital cities.

Serbian_Belgrade_academic,24.42,28.12,17.06,9.06,1 7.09,1.48,0.45,0.36,0.73,0.56,0.54,0.1,0.04
Croat_Zagreb_academic,28.82,33.74,14.87,7.43,11.13 ,1.49,0.45,0.26,0.49,0.56,0.40,0.23,0.13
Bosniak_Sarajevo_academic,24.8,31.82,15.17,8.94,14 .02,1.63,1.59,0.57,0.58,0.37,0.34,0.01,0.08

[Pribislav]

Because that officicial averages mean nothing, Serb average is one person, Croatian is one person.
I think results I posted so far demonstrate how innacurate this averages is (they are not averages either, because average means it is at least two samples), especially Croatian.

Those are proper academic averages from research papers if we are talking about capital cities.

Serbian_Belgrade_academic,24.42,28.12,17.06,9.06,1 7.09,1.48,0.45,0.36,0.73,0.56,0.54,0.1,0.04
Croat_Zagreb_academic,28.82,33.74,14.87,7.43,11.13 ,1.49,0.45,0.26,0.49,0.56,0.40,0.23,0.13

I don't know for Croatians, but that average for Serbs have nothing to do with reality. Even Serbs from Serbia are 30% Baltic on aveage on 27 samples posted by vbnetkhio.

[CommonSense]

Varićak, Serb from Kozarska Dubica (Bosnia) and Ralja (central Serbia)

Y-DNA: I2 > I-PH908 (member of Serbian DNA project)



Kit T526448

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.38
2 North_Atlantic 24.95
3 West_Med 16.7
4 East_Med 15.91
5 West_Asian 11.84
6 South_Asian 0.83
7 Amerindian 0.66
8 East_Asian 0.39
9 Red_Sea 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.91
2 Romanian 4.42
3 Bulgarian 6.3
4 Moldavian 7.28
5 Croatian 9.89
6 Hungarian 10.14
7 Austrian 13.38
8 East_German 14.87
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.13
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.39
11 South_Polish 16.94
12 Ukrainian 17.54
13 West_German 18.41
14 North_Italian 18.63
15 Tuscan 19.66
16 French 19.93
17 South_Dutch 20.03
18 Polish 20.59
19 Southwest_Russian 20.71
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.9% Bulgarian + 26.1% South_Polish @ 2.16
2 84.3% Romanian + 15.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.2
3 82% Romanian + 18% Ukrainian @ 2.22
4 62% Bulgarian + 38% Croatian @ 2.23
5 71.7% Romanian + 28.3% Croatian @ 2.26
6 64.7% Romanian + 35.3% Moldavian @ 2.32
7 81.7% Romanian + 18.3% South_Polish @ 2.32
8 88.2% Romanian + 11.8% Lithuanian @ 2.33
9 84.5% Romanian + 15.5% Polish @ 2.36
10 85.8% Romanian + 14.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.36
11 84.7% Romanian + 15.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.38
12 81.4% Romanian + 18.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.4
13 77.8% Bulgarian + 22.2% Polish @ 2.4
14 86.3% Romanian + 13.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.47
15 75% Bulgarian + 25% Ukrainian @ 2.51
16 86.7% Romanian + 13.3% Belorussian @ 2.53
17 54.2% Bulgarian + 45.8% Moldavian @ 2.6
18 73.8% Bulgarian + 26.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.61
19 88.5% Romanian + 11.5% Estonian @ 2.62
20 63.1% Bulgarian + 36.9% Hungarian @ 2.64

[Jana]

I don't know for Croatians, but that average for Serbs have nothing to do with reality. Even Serbs from Serbia are 30% Baltic on aveage on 27 samples posted by vbnetkhio.

That is academic average for Belgrade Serbs who were tested, nothing more.
And real picture is when you mix them with those fully validated samples you found, not only posting those you like and ignoring Serbs with lower Slavic influence who are obviously relevant.

My guess is lot of these Belgrade Serbs have roots from Montenegro, which is usual for capital city.

Edit: lmao, just noticed Belgrade average is 28% Baltic while that you guys collected is 30%. Big f..... 2% difference.
Pribislav acting as if I posted Sub-Saharan Africans.

[vbnetkhio]

I think it won't be problem, validated samples are hard to come by.
Croats from Grude you mentioned, are those academic kits from Herzegovina you already posted or something else?



Both are obsolete and based on results of one person each darling.

yes, these 4 academic samples hava a known location and haplogroup:

DZ9261363 Croat_Bosnia_12 Ponijevo_Zepce, i2a

HA6762284 Croat_Bosnia_16 Lug_Zepce

EK3222333 Croat_Herzegovina_11 Mostar, Q1d

BT7536017 Croat_Herzegovina_13 Duge_Grude, i2a

[Jana]

My database ofcourse includes both academics and validated Croat samples I collected, I will combine both for most accurate statistics possible.
So far I have more than 90 :)

[Pribislav]

That is academic average for Belgrade Serbs who were tested, nothing more.
And real picture is when you mix them with those fully validated samples you found, not only posting those you like and ignoring Serbs with lower Slavic influence who are obviously relevant.

My guess is lot of these Belgrade Serbs have roots from Montenegro, which is usual for capital city.

For sure, Belgrade is full of Montenegrins.
There is a joke - What would be if Montenegrins have glowing eyes? Belgrade would be like Las Vegas. :cool:

Vbnetkhio's average is very good, because there are samples from various regions of Serbia.

[Jana]

For sure, Belgrade is full of Montenegrins.
There is a joke - What would be if Montenegrins have glowing eyes? Belgrade wold be like Las Vegas. :cool:

Vbnetkhio's average is very good, because there are samples from various regions of Serbia.

His average will be improved if those academics were added which every normal person would do, but it's your own business, do what you want.
I will be as transparent as possible and not leaving out anyone just because I don't like their scores.

Only exception is this Albanian like person, too big outlier to include, and no Croat matches practically. But if I get confirmation he is ethnic Croat from Kosovo I will include him.
I even included Croat from Split with almost 7% Red Sea and Herzegovina Croat with almost 5% South Asian.

[CommonSense]

Gorski. Half Macedonian from Prespa, half Serb from Lika:



Kit KP2099126

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.31
2 North_Atlantic 20.18
3 West_Med 19.8
4 East_Med 16.41
5 West_Asian 14.49
6 Red_Sea 1.8

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.41
2 Romanian 6.06
3 Serbian 8.39
4 Moldavian 10.53
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.89
6 Croatian 13.77
7 Hungarian 15.36
8 Austrian 18.27
9 Tuscan 19.06
10 North_Italian 19.11
11 Central_Greek 19.15
12 Italian_Abruzzo 19.35
13 East_German 19.72
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.75
15 East_Sicilian 20.69
16 South_Polish 20.99
17 Ukrainian 21.03
18 West_Sicilian 21.09
19 Ashkenazi 22.91
20 West_German 22.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.1% Moldavian + 33.9% Central_Greek @ 4.42
2 75.9% Bulgarian + 24.1% Moldavian @ 4.5
3 90.9% Bulgarian + 9.1% Erzya @ 4.63
4 77.9% Moldavian + 22.1% Cyprian @ 4.64
5 89.4% Bulgarian + 10.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.65
6 87.6% Bulgarian + 12.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.68
7 88.6% Bulgarian + 11.4% Ukrainian @ 4.73
8 90.7% Bulgarian + 9.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.75
9 83.2% Bulgarian + 16.8% Croatian @ 4.75
10 71.2% Moldavian + 28.8% South_Italian @ 4.76
11 91.4% Bulgarian + 8.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.76
12 92.4% Bulgarian + 7.6% Lithuanian @ 4.77
13 90.2% Bulgarian + 9.8% Southwest_Russian @ 4.78
14 90.6% Bulgarian + 9.4% Polish @ 4.82
15 91.5% Bulgarian + 8.5% Estonian_Polish @ 4.84
16 56.1% Moldavian + 43.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.85
17 52.5% Central_Greek + 47.5% Ukrainian @ 4.87
18 89.8% Bulgarian + 10.2% South_Polish @ 4.9
19 68.3% Moldavian + 31.7% East_Sicilian @ 4.92
20 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Belorussian @ 4.93

[Jana]

^^^^he's got very decent Baltic score for half Macedonian, my guess is his parents were quite Slavic (either both or just one side, impossible to say without testing them)

[Pribislav]

I posted two Bosniaks right here, both are closer to the Serbian than to the Croatian average. Also, there's that guy who Zukorlić uploaded, but I don't have access to their family tree. Carpatz knows of a Bosniak from Romanija who gets 98 Serbian + 2 Papuan (he gets some weird noise australian score) on K13 oracles. The kit is now sadly gone, though I guess the guy could be convinced to reupload.

Hadžić, Bosniak from Sarajevo or central Bosnia 97605

[Pribislav]

Those native to NW Bosnia ofcourse are, and they are well aware of it. But there was population replacement in ''Turkish Croatia'' and many of the people currently living in that region including Serbs have origins from elsewhere.

When Ottomans conquered most of present day Western Bosnia in 1527 and mostwestern part Cazinska Krajina in 1591 region was heavy depopulated. Croatians migrated to Kvarner, Gorski Kotar, western Hungary, Slovakia, NW Croatia and Burgenland. Ottomans brought new population from Herzegovina, East Bosnia, Raška and Montenegro, part of that settlers from 16th century converted on Islam (they were Orthodoxes and Serbs) and on this way are created Western Bosnia Muslims (later Bosniaks).

[CommonSense]

Zherebnyi, Ukrainian:



Kit T688472

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 46.55
2 North_Atlantic 25.78
3 West_Med 12.02
4 East_Med 7.33
5 West_Asian 4.64
6 Siberian 2.5
7 Amerindian 0.71
8 Sub-Saharan 0.47

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 4.12
2 Southwest_Russian 4.24
3 Estonian_Polish 5.25
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.77
5 Russian_Smolensk 5.78
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.82
7 Polish 6.07
8 Belorussian 6.43
9 South_Polish 6.53
10 Kargopol_Russian 8.38
11 Lithuanian 9.97
12 Erzya 10.18
13 Croatian 10.57
14 Estonian 10.67
15 Finnish 12.54
16 East_Finnish 12.56
17 Moldavian 13.16
18 Southwest_Finnish 13.75
19 Hungarian 14.9
20 East_German 16.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.7% Southwest_Russian + 5.3% Sardinian @ 2.9
2 85.3% Estonian_Polish + 14.7% Bulgarian @ 3.14
3 93% Estonian_Polish + 7% Sardinian @ 3.18
4 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.22
5 90.7% Estonian_Polish + 9.3% Central_Greek @ 3.27
6 91.6% Estonian_Polish + 8.4% South_Italian @ 3.28
7 51.8% Ukrainian + 48.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.29
8 92.3% Estonian_Polish + 7.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.3
9 93% Estonian_Polish + 7% Cyprian @ 3.35
10 75.9% Estonian_Polish + 24.1% Moldavian @ 3.35
11 91.1% Estonian_Polish + 8.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.35
12 84.9% Estonian_Polish + 15.1% Romanian @ 3.35
13 91.2% Estonian_Polish + 8.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.37
14 92.5% Estonian_Polish + 7.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.41
15 91.1% Estonian_Polish + 8.9% West_Sicilian @ 3.41
16 80.5% Ukrainian + 19.5% Erzya @ 3.41
17 63.6% Ukrainian + 36.4% Estonian_Polish @ 3.44
18 93.8% Southwest_Russian + 6.2% Southwest_French @ 3.47
19 72.3% Lithuanian + 27.7% Bulgarian @ 3.48
20 78% Lithuanian + 22% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.52

[CommonSense]

Macura, Dalmatian Serb:



Kit T570064

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.12
2 North_Atlantic 27.06
3 East_Med 19.79
4 West_Med 15.75
5 West_Asian 6.5
6 Red_Sea 1.47
7 Amerindian 1.3
8 Oceanian 0.48
9 East_Asian 0.3
10 Siberian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.72
2 Romanian 5.77
3 Bulgarian 7.42
4 Moldavian 10.63
5 Hungarian 10.67
6 Croatian 12.06
7 Austrian 13.6
8 Greek_Thessaly 14.47
9 East_German 15.32
10 North_Italian 16.81
11 West_German 17.52
12 Tuscan 17.68
13 French 18.34
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.4
15 South_Polish 18.46
16 South_Dutch 19.12
17 Ukrainian 19.33
18 Italian_Abruzzo 20.27
19 Portuguese 20.3
20 Spanish_Galicia 20.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62% South_Polish + 38% Italian_Jewish @ 3.51
2 69.3% Hungarian + 30.7% Ashkenazi @ 3.61
3 54% West_Sicilian + 46% Belorussian @ 3.77
4 56.1% Tuscan + 43.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.82
5 57.6% West_Sicilian + 42.4% Estonian @ 3.89
6 58.7% Tuscan + 41.3% Belorussian @ 3.97
7 57.7% Polish + 42.3% Italian_Jewish @ 4.02
8 64.6% Greek_Thessaly + 35.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.02
9 74.9% Hungarian + 25.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.05
10 75.2% Hungarian + 24.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.06
11 53.7% South_Polish + 46.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.09
12 51% Estonian + 49% Italian_Jewish @ 4.1
13 91% Serbian + 9% Ashkenazi @ 4.16
14 58.4% Tuscan + 41.6% Estonian_Polish @ 4.16
15 53.6% West_Sicilian + 46.4% Estonian_Polish @ 4.17
16 58.4% West_Sicilian + 41.6% Lithuanian @ 4.2
17 58.5% Hungarian + 41.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.22
18 56.8% Tuscan + 43.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.23
19 93.3% Serbian + 6.7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.23
20 55.7% South_Polish + 44.3% Ashkenazi @ 4.24

[JohnnyP]

^^^^he's got very decent Baltic score for half Macedonian, my guess is his parents were quite Slavic (either both or just one side, impossible to say without testing them)

Im pretty sure that Macedonian from Prespa would be no more than 20-21 Baltic... :D

Edit:Btw here's Gorski , i would say Lika Serb was with too much Baltic. Here more Lika Serb gedmatch ?
Gorski Todor Nikolovski (1910-1987), Prespa, Macedonia Macedonia J-M172.

[Konstantinos]

I have started collecting samples from Greece, threads like that will be a good source for a Greek-heavy thread in the future.

[JohnnyP]

I have started collecting samples from Greece, threads like that will be a good source for a Greek-heavy thread in the future.

If you have it , please pm me , i want to make comparation from North Greeks and Macedonians , from what i saw pretty similar/same.

[Pribislav]

Im pretty sure that Macedonian from Prespa would be no more than 20-21 Baltic... :D

Edit:Btw here's Gorski , i would say Lika Serb was with too much Baltic. Here more Lika Serb gedmatch ?
Gorski Todor Nikolovski (1910-1987), Prespa, Macedonia Macedonia J-M172.

Lika Serb 1 97607

Lika Serb 2 97608

Lika Serb 3 97609

Lika Serb 4 97610

[Ion Basescul]

Munteanu, Romanian. All surnames listed are Romanian, but I don't know where they're from.



Kit MS8808911

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.32
2 East_Med 20.94
3 North_Atlantic 19.93
4 West_Med 17.29
5 West_Asian 11.99
6 Siberian 1.39
7 Amerindian 1.02
8 Red_Sea 0.79
9 Sub-Saharan 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.22
2 Romanian 5.16
3 Serbian 8.48
4 Greek_Thessaly 10.67
5 Moldavian 12.15
6 Croatian 15.25
7 Hungarian 16.01
8 Central_Greek 17.29
9 Italian_Abruzzo 17.65
10 Tuscan 17.71
11 East_Sicilian 18.69
12 North_Italian 18.76
13 West_Sicilian 19.13
14 Austrian 19.47
15 Ashkenazi 19.69
16 East_German 21.06
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.29
18 South_Italian 21.7
19 South_Polish 22.23
20 Ukrainian 22.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.6% Bulgarian + 4.4% Mari @ 2.71
2 95% Bulgarian + 5% Chuvash @ 2.71
3 94.5% Bulgarian + 5.5% Erzya @ 2.74
4 95.4% Bulgarian + 4.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.91
5 94.7% Bulgarian + 5.3% Tatar @ 2.92
6 94.8% Bulgarian + 5.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.93
7 98% Bulgarian + 2% Selkup @ 2.93
8 95.1% Bulgarian + 4.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.95
9 98.1% Bulgarian + 1.9% Ket @ 2.98
10 97.4% Bulgarian + 2.6% MA-1 @ 2.98
11 96.6% Bulgarian + 3.4% Lithuanian @ 3.01
12 96% Bulgarian + 4% Estonian_Polish @ 3.01
13 96.3% Bulgarian + 3.7% Belorussian @ 3.04
14 96.9% Bulgarian + 3.1% East_Finnish @ 3.04
15 96.2% Bulgarian + 3.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.04
16 95.7% Bulgarian + 4.3% Ukrainian @ 3.06
17 98.6% Bulgarian + 1.4% West_Greenlander @ 3.08
18 59.1% Central_Greek + 40.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.08
19 97.2% Bulgarian + 2.8% Estonian @ 3.09
20 98.4% Bulgarian + 1.6% Shors @ 3.1



Munteanu refers to someone whose ancestors come from Muntenia region in Wallachia aka Eastern Wallachia. It is most popular in Moldavia region.

[Konstantinos]

If you have it , please pm me , i want to make comparation from North Greeks and Macedonians , from what i saw pretty similar/same.

It's gonna take a while, I'm going to search the whole web for results to collect as many as possible. Preliminary results show different case, the Eurogenes reference for Greek_Thessaly is northern even from Thracians, the northernmost Greek group. If you have any results I would appreciate it.

[CommonSense]

Munteanu refers to someone whose ancestors come from Muntenia region in Wallachia aka Eastern Wallachia. It is most popular in Moldavia region.

Yeah, I figured as much. I don't know if his other ancestors are from there though because he only listed surnames, though judging by his results they may as well have been.

[JohnnyP]

Lika Serb 1 97607

Lika Serb 2 97608

Lika Serb 3 97609

Lika Serb 4 97610

Nice thanks, thats too much Baltic ye?

[JohnnyP]

Btw i found really weird Macedonian gedmatch kit.
Drotleff (GEDmatch HZ2466853 - YFull T-Y10641) Georg Drotleff
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.1% North_Swedish + 43.9% Tuscan @ 3.86
2 67.2% Norwegian + 32.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.99
3 71.1% Swedish + 28.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.02
4 67.6% Swedish + 32.4% Ashkenazi @ 4.04
5 59.2% Southeast_English + 40.8% Bulgarian @ 4.18
6 51.2% Serbian + 48.8% Southeast_English @ 4.23
7 54.8% Southeast_English + 45.2% Romanian @ 4.24
8 71.7% Swedish + 28.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.31
9 70.6% Danish + 29.4% Ashkenazi @ 4.36
10 51.2% North_Swedish + 48.8% North_Italian @ 4.42
11 69.6% West_German + 30.4% Serbian @ 4.44
12 64.7% Swedish + 35.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.44
13 58.9% Swedish + 41.1% Tuscan @ 4.44
14 70.1% North_Dutch + 29.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.49
15 60.4% Norwegian + 39.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.5
16 64% Danish + 36% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.52[/B]
17 73.7% North_German + 26.3% Ashkenazi @ 4.64
18 78.6% West_German + 21.4% Bulgarian @ 4.67
19 75.3% West_German + 24.7% Romanian @ 4.68
20 55.5% Orcadian + 44.5% Bulgarian @ 4.7

[Pribislav]

Nice thanks, thats too much Baltic ye?

I thing average Baltic for Serbs as whole is 30-30.5%, two guys from link would be little above average and two solid above.

Dušan is 3/4 Lika Serb and 1/4 Dalmatian Serb, and he score 33.79% Baltic.

[Jana]

Cakić, mother of mr Bačko whom I posted above. Ancestry from Leskovac




Kit T173215

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.5
2 North_Atlantic 25.19
3 East_Med 20.14
4 West_Med 17.08
5 West_Asian 8.3
6 Siberian 1.38
7 Red_Sea 1.29
8 Amerindian 0.73
9 East_Asian 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.52
2 Bulgarian 4.74
3 Serbian 5
4 Moldavian 11.29
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.94
6 Hungarian 12.53
7 Croatian 13.5
8 Austrian 15.35
9 North_Italian 15.61
10 Tuscan 15.91
11 East_German 17.18
12 Italian_Abruzzo 18
13 West_German 18.88
14 Central_Greek 18.99
15 West_Sicilian 19.11
16 French 19.13
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.96
18 East_Sicilian 20.1
19 Portuguese 20.21
20 South_Polish 20.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.4% Greek_Thessaly + 29.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.76
2 83.4% Serbian + 16.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.84
3 57.9% South_Polish + 42.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.98
4 87.4% Serbian + 12.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.04
5 87.6% Serbian + 12.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.08
6 74.6% Serbian + 25.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.08
7 58.5% West_Sicilian + 41.5% Belorussian @ 3.12
8 52.4% West_Sicilian + 47.6% Ukrainian @ 3.13
9 51.3% Greek_Thessaly + 48.7% Hungarian @ 3.17
10 72.3% Greek_Thessaly + 27.7% Finnish @ 3.17
11 57.2% South_Italian + 42.8% Estonian @ 3.18
12 72.6% Greek_Thessaly + 27.4% Estonian @ 3.19
13 88.5% Bulgarian + 11.5% North_Swedish @ 3.2
14 52.4% Bulgarian + 47.6% Serbian @ 3.2
15 55.8% West_Sicilian + 44.2% Southwest_Russian @ 3.21
16 67.8% Croatian + 32.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.21
17 58.1% West_Sicilian + 41.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.22
18 51.6% West_Sicilian + 48.4% South_Polish @ 3.25
19 63.6% Greek_Thessaly + 36.4% South_Polish @ 3.25
20 78% Bulgarian + 22% Hungarian @ 3.28



My mother's friend is well-known lawyer from Leskovac, fully native to that region.
I told her to talk him into taking DNA test, knowing how undersampled that area is.

If he will, I'll post his results.

[Jana]

I thing average Baltic for Serbs as whole is 30-30.5%, two guys from link would be little above average and two solid above.

Dušan is 3/4 Lika Serb and 1/4 Dalmatian Serb, and he score 33.79% Baltic.

29% average in total is my guess, but we will see with more samples.
For western Serbs 30-31%.

Southern ones and Montenegrins 26-27% probably.

[Jana]

For Croats in total I expect average between 32-33%.
Higher in north and lower in south obviously.

But, I still lack samples from many regions. So I can't say for certain.

[Jana]

I have started collecting samples from Greece, threads like that will be a good source for a Greek-heavy thread in the future.

Nice, you can post Greeks here too, they are related people.

[Konstantinos]

Btw i found really weird Macedonian gedmatch kit.
Drotleff (GEDmatch HZ2466853 - YFull T-Y10641) Georg Drotleff
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.1% North_Swedish + 43.9% Tuscan @ 3.86
2 67.2% Norwegian + 32.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.99
3 71.1% Swedish + 28.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.02
4 67.6% Swedish + 32.4% Ashkenazi @ 4.04
5 59.2% Southeast_English + 40.8% Bulgarian @ 4.18
6 51.2% Serbian + 48.8% Southeast_English @ 4.23
7 54.8% Southeast_English + 45.2% Romanian @ 4.24
8 71.7% Swedish + 28.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.31
9 70.6% Danish + 29.4% Ashkenazi @ 4.36
10 51.2% North_Swedish + 48.8% North_Italian @ 4.42
11 69.6% West_German + 30.4% Serbian @ 4.44
12 64.7% Swedish + 35.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.44
13 58.9% Swedish + 41.1% Tuscan @ 4.44
14 70.1% North_Dutch + 29.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.49
15 60.4% Norwegian + 39.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.5
16 64% Danish + 36% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.52[/B]
17 73.7% North_German + 26.3% Ashkenazi @ 4.64
18 78.6% West_German + 21.4% Bulgarian @ 4.67
19 75.3% West_German + 24.7% Romanian @ 4.68
20 55.5% Orcadian + 44.5% Bulgarian @ 4.7

Half-half, mixed with NW Europe.

[Jana]

When Ottomans conquered most of present day Western Bosnia in 1527 and mostwestern part Cazinska Krajina in 1591 region was heavy depopulated. Croatians migrated to Kvarner, Gorski Kotar, western Hungary, Slovakia, NW Croatia and Burgenland. Ottomans brought new population from Herzegovina, East Bosnia, Raška and Montenegro, part of that settlers from 16th century converted on Islam (they were Orthodoxes and Serbs) and on this way are created Western Bosnia Muslims (later Bosniaks).

Yes, but not entirely. And that's visible in linguistics, muslims there were heavily ikavian even with čakavian pockets here and there.
There is never complete population replacement.

But yes, it was very significant indeed.
Bosniensis is good example, his paternal ancestry is from east Herzegovina.

[Konstantinos]

Nice, you can post Greeks here too, they are related people.

I'm in the process of collecting at the moment, it's a long process.

[Jana]

My Bosniak side is also not from NW Bosnia originally, but west Herzegovina. However, surnames of famales from that part of family are native to Vrbas region around Banja Luka.
So, my Bosniak side was mixed local with Ottoman era migrants, not fully one or another and I suppose that's the case with many Bosniaks there.

[JohnnyP]

29% average in total is my guess, but we will see with more samples.
For western Serbs 30-31%.

Southern ones and Montenegrins 26-27% probably.

From all these kits and results Macedonian average would be 21,50857142857143‬ from 35 Results.

[Pribislav]

Yes, but not entirely. And that's visible in linguistics, muslims there were heavily ikavian even with čakavian pockets here and there.
There is never complete population replacement.

But yes, it was very significant indeed.

There was no chakavian speakers in any corner of Bosnia and Herzegovina in the last 150 years since exist researches of linguists. Chakavians once lived only in most western part of Bosnia west of Sana river. They disappeared in Ottoman invasion in 16th century.
Neoshtokavian ikavian Muslim speakers in Cazinska Krajina are most likely descendants of settlers from central Bosnia in 16th and 17th century.

[CommonSense]

My mother's friend is well-known lawyer from Leskovac, fully native to that region.
I told her to talk him into taking DNA test, knowing how undersampled that area is.

If he will, I'll post his results.

We actually had the results of one man with full ancestry from there, his surname is Ljubenović. Pribislav told me he was active on the discussions related to genetics on the krstarica forum but got chased away (like many others) by some deranged far-right psycho troll.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?277119-Eurogenes-k15-PCA-of-my-Serbian-matches&p=5816442&viewfull=1#post5816442


Apart from that, we have two other people who are paternally from southern Serbia, but their mothers were born in another part of the country.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?268509-Origin-and-identity-of-the-Macedonian-people&p=5799991&viewfull=1#post5799991

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?313828-Serbian-Autosomal-DNA&p=6573225&viewfull=1#post6573225

[Jana]

From all these kits and results Macedonian average would be 21,50857142857143‬ from 35 Results.

But is it balanced mix of all regions or some region dominating? 21% is quite low.
Because I expect a cline between south Serbia and north Macedonia, not abrupt break, it doesn't make sense from historical or linguistic point of view.

You know better ofcopurse.

[Pribislav]

We actually had the results of one man with full ancestry from there, his surname is Ljubenović. Pribislav told me he was active on the discussions related to genetics on the krstarica forum but got chased away (like many others) by some deranged far-right psycho troll.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?277119-Eurogenes-k15-PCA-of-my-Serbian-matches&p=5816442&viewfull=1#post5816442


Apart from that, we have two other people who are paternally from southern Serbia, but their mothers were born in another part of the country.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?268509-Origin-and-identity-of-the-Macedonian-people&p=5799991&viewfull=1#post5799991

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?313828-Serbian-Autosomal-DNA&p=6573225&viewfull=1#post6573225

He is still active on Krstarica forum, but not on thread about genetic. His last activity was in the last Thursday. I spoke with him few times on pm, he carry very exotic y dna for a Serb E-M81.

[JohnnyP]

But is it balanced mix of all regions or dome regions dominating? 21% is quite low.
Because I expect a cline between south Serbia and north Macedonia, not abrupt break, it doesn't make sense from historical or linguistic point of view.

So from these kits thats average, i already said these kits are from all regions , Nortwest kits is 24 Baltic , but again you posted Nortwest with 22 Baltic.It seems Central Macedonia have lowest Baltic 3 kits with 18 Baltic, that Stip result with 25 Baltic have also 25 East Med and 19.65 West Med and very low NAtlantic 16.So i would say highest peak of Baltic would be Nortwest and Norteast , i think there is two with 23 and 24 Baltic from Northest so again is not high.I didnt see yet full Macedonian kit with more than 25 Baltic.

Why doesnt make sense from historical and linguistic point of view?
Edit : The Macedonians were occupied and not exterminated through history i dont get your point.

[Jana]

There was no chakavian speakers in any corner of Bosnia and Herzegovina in the last 150 years since exist researches of linguists. Chakavians once lived only in most western part of Bosnia west of Sana river. They disappeared in Ottoman invasion in 16th century.
Neoshtokavian ikavian Muslim speakers in Cazinska Krajina are most likely descendants of settlers from central Bosnia in 16th and 17th century.

There were čakavian muslims in pockets on north Bosnia until two generations ago, I had that confirmed by person from there and I had no idea about it.
His grandfather was from Novi Grad across Dvor na Uni.

[Jana]

So from these kits thats average, i already said these kits are from all regions , Nortwest kits is 24 Baltic , but again you posted Nortwest with 22 Baltic.It seems Central Macedonia have lowest Baltic 3 kits with 18 Baltic, that Stip result with 25 Baltic have also 25 East Med and 19.65 West Med and very low NAtlantic 16.So i would say highest peak of Baltic would be Nortwest and Norteast , i think there is two with 23 and 24 Baltic from Northest so again is not high.I didnt see yet full Macedonian kit with more than 25 Baltic.

Why doesnt make sense from historical and linguistic point of view?
Edit : The Macedonians were occupied and not exterminated through history i dont get your point.

The point is that the is always a cline with neighbours, if there is lack of it it is usually due to lack of samples.
There was no hard wall between south Serbia and north of Macedonia historically and linguistically they are similar.
So between them I except few % difference and nothing drastic, than Baltic going to lower values as you say moving south towards Greece or west towards Albania.

But good job, keep up your work :)

[Pribislav]

There were čakavian muslims in pockets on north Bosnia until two generations ago, I had that confirmed by person from there and I had no idea about it.
His grandfather was from Novi Grad across Dvor na Uni.

That person probably don't know what is chakavian. He probably confused šćakavian isogloss with chakavian. Linguists never recorder any chakavian speech in BiH.

He is probably like one Serb from Vrlika are who claim that his ancestors spoke chakavian. He confused adriatisms which existed in whole Dalmatia with chakavian. Village of his ancestors (Maovice) was neoshtokavian ikavian, it's well known. Chakavian speech is not recorded in any corner of Dalmatian hinterland same as in BiH.

[Jana]

That person probably don't know what is chakavian. He probably confused šćakavian isogloss with chakavian. Linguists never recoeder any chakavian speech in BiH.

He is probably like one Serb from Vrlika are who claim that his ancestors spoke chakavian. He confused adriatisms which existed in whole Dalmatia with chakavian. Village of his ancestors (Maovice) was neoshtokavian ikavian, it's well known. Chakavian speech is not recorded in any corner of Dalmatian hinterland same as in BiH.

Now, but in the past it was different. Nevertheless, let's stay on topic.

[JohnnyP]

The point is that the is always a cline with neighbours, if there is lack of it it is usually due to lack of samples.
There was no hard wall between south Serbia and north of Macedonia hitorically and linguistically they are similar.
So between them I except few % difference and nothing drastic, than Baltic going to lower values as you say moving south towards Greece or west towards Albania.

But good job, keep up your work :)

But i would say again that you are wrong, any similarities with Serbs is because we lived under their occupation, so my town Kumanovo yeah , there is for sure 10% Serbian population which is assimilated with Macedonians because is close to Serbo-Macedonian border,but even that North gedmatch results from Macedonia are not similar to SouthSerbs, even Kumanovo reference from Eurogenes K13 (Macedonian_North) Full Macedonian, have nothing with Serbs in closest populations.
But again i think results saying something different ,but again thats just your opinion, everyone have their own opinion.Cheers ! :thumb001:


Distance to: Macedonian_North
3.15924042 Macedonian_Southwest
3.39344957 Macedonian_Central
4.22602650 Macedonian_East
4.40167014 Bulgarian
4.55782843 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
4.80726533 Macedonian_Northwest
4.84362468 Pomak_Nevrokopi
4.92740106 North_Macedonian
5.03795593 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
5.07430783 Bulgarian_Pazardzhik
5.10643711 Macedonia_South
5.16157922 Romanian_Muntenia
5.29154095 Macedonian
5.44455691 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
5.45338427 Bulgarian_Central
5.51574111 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
5.53364256 Greek_Northern-Thrace
5.57235139 Bulgarian_Serres
5.59035777 Greek_Thessaloniki
5.68591242 Vlach_North-Macedonia

[Jana]

No need to get upset, I tought Croats had nothing to do with Serbs also when we tought old Eurogenes averages and some academic papers were fully reliable, turns out I was wrong.
Always opened to learning new things and adjusting opinion to new facts. So I trust what you say, ofcourse.

Let's keep collecting samples and improving our knowledge! :)

[CommonSense]

Lelas. From Kosore (Vrlika), Dalmatia.

There's a gedcom assigned to the kit so i was able to check out the surnames. This woman seems to have a Croatian father and a Serbian mother (the village was mixed):



Kit A096853

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.19
2 North_Atlantic 26.85
3 West_Med 18.41
4 East_Med 17.87
5 West_Asian 4.77
6 Red_Sea 1.25
7 Amerindian 0.93
8 East_Asian 0.82
9 Siberian 0.61
10 Northeast_African 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.31
2 Romanian 7.05
3 Bulgarian 8.69
4 Moldavian 9.93
5 Hungarian 10.37
6 Croatian 11.05
7 Austrian 13.02
8 East_German 14.4
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.69
10 North_Italian 16.68
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.41
12 West_German 17.47
13 South_Polish 17.58
14 French 17.97
15 Ukrainian 18.21
16 Tuscan 18.4
17 South_Dutch 18.81
18 Portuguese 19.64
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.99
20 Spanish_Cataluna 20.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.3% Tuscan + 43.7% Estonian_Polish @ 3.58
2 61.2% Tuscan + 38.8% Lithuanian @ 3.77
3 56.9% Tuscan + 43.1% Belorussian @ 3.79
4 50.3% Ukrainian + 49.7% Tuscan @ 3.86
5 54.4% Tuscan + 45.6% Southwest_Russian @ 4.04
6 56.2% Tuscan + 43.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.24
7 55.4% Ukrainian + 44.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.46
8 55.5% West_Sicilian + 44.5% Estonian @ 4.46
9 53.6% Tuscan + 46.4% Polish @ 4.51
10 63.9% Croatian + 36.1% Tuscan @ 4.51
11 51.6% Polish + 48.4% West_Sicilian @ 4.61
12 51.2% South_Polish + 48.8% Tuscan @ 4.61
13 56.3% South_Polish + 43.7% West_Sicilian @ 4.62
14 51.3% West_Sicilian + 48.7% Estonian_Polish @ 4.63
15 51.9% West_Sicilian + 48.1% Belorussian @ 4.67
16 60.5% Tuscan + 39.5% Estonian @ 4.67
17 57.1% North_Italian + 42.9% Southwest_Russian @ 4.68
18 55.2% Tuscan + 44.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.68
19 94% Serbian + 6% Sardinian @ 4.71
20 51.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48.5% Tuscan @ 4.76

[Pribislav]

Lelas. From Kosore (Vrlika), Dalmatia.

There's a gedcom assigned to the kit so i was able to check out the surnames. This woman seems to have a Croatian father and a Serbian mother (the village was mixed):



Kit A096853

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.19
2 North_Atlantic 26.85
3 West_Med 18.41
4 East_Med 17.87
5 West_Asian 4.77
6 Red_Sea 1.25
7 Amerindian 0.93
8 East_Asian 0.82
9 Siberian 0.61
10 Northeast_African 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.31
2 Romanian 7.05
3 Bulgarian 8.69
4 Moldavian 9.93
5 Hungarian 10.37
6 Croatian 11.05
7 Austrian 13.02
8 East_German 14.4
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.69
10 North_Italian 16.68
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.41
12 West_German 17.47
13 South_Polish 17.58
14 French 17.97
15 Ukrainian 18.21
16 Tuscan 18.4
17 South_Dutch 18.81
18 Portuguese 19.64
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.99
20 Spanish_Cataluna 20.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.3% Tuscan + 43.7% Estonian_Polish @ 3.58
2 61.2% Tuscan + 38.8% Lithuanian @ 3.77
3 56.9% Tuscan + 43.1% Belorussian @ 3.79
4 50.3% Ukrainian + 49.7% Tuscan @ 3.86
5 54.4% Tuscan + 45.6% Southwest_Russian @ 4.04
6 56.2% Tuscan + 43.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.24
7 55.4% Ukrainian + 44.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.46
8 55.5% West_Sicilian + 44.5% Estonian @ 4.46
9 53.6% Tuscan + 46.4% Polish @ 4.51
10 63.9% Croatian + 36.1% Tuscan @ 4.51
11 51.6% Polish + 48.4% West_Sicilian @ 4.61
12 51.2% South_Polish + 48.8% Tuscan @ 4.61
13 56.3% South_Polish + 43.7% West_Sicilian @ 4.62
14 51.3% West_Sicilian + 48.7% Estonian_Polish @ 4.63
15 51.9% West_Sicilian + 48.1% Belorussian @ 4.67
16 60.5% Tuscan + 39.5% Estonian @ 4.67
17 57.1% North_Italian + 42.9% Southwest_Russian @ 4.68
18 55.2% Tuscan + 44.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.68
19 94% Serbian + 6% Sardinian @ 4.71
20 51.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48.5% Tuscan @ 4.76



Croatian father for sure https://actacroatica.com/en/surname/Lelas/

Serbian surnames from Kosore are Bodrožić, Arnaut, Ivančić, Knez, Medić, Mišina and Utržen.

In Kosore in 1991 Croatians were 67% and Serbs 33%.

[CommonSense]

Croatian father for sure https://actacroatica.com/en/surname/Lelas/

Serbian surnames from Kosore are Bodrožić, Arnaut, Ivančić, Knez, Medić, Mišina and Utržen.

In Kosore in 1991 Croatians were 67% and Serbs 33%.

Yes, her mom is from the same village and her surname is Arnaut. On poreklo's webpage for that village there is complete list of all the surnames that were present there, along with the ethnicity they belonged to.

[CommonSense]

Another kit with a gedcom.

Đorđević - three grandparents from Šumadija and one from the Moravica district (in western Serbia):



Kit H111370

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.83
2 North_Atlantic 24.57
3 West_Med 19.59
4 East_Med 14.75
5 West_Asian 8.12
6 Red_Sea 1.65
7 Siberian 1.35
8 Amerindian 0.73
9 Oceanian 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.68
2 Romanian 6.01
3 Moldavian 7.25
4 Bulgarian 7.68
5 Croatian 9.5
6 Hungarian 10.35
7 Austrian 13.25
8 East_German 14.47
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.68
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.93
11 South_Polish 16.79
12 Ukrainian 17.07
13 North_Italian 17.74
14 West_German 18.49
15 French 19.24
16 Tuscan 19.4
17 South_Dutch 19.8
18 Polish 20.21
19 Southwest_Russian 20.69
20 Portuguese 21.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.3% Moldavian + 14.7% Sardinian @ 2.72
2 74.5% Moldavian + 25.5% Tuscan @ 3.09
3 72.9% Moldavian + 27.1% North_Italian @ 3.22
4 57.7% Ukrainian + 42.3% West_Sicilian @ 3.24
5 71.9% Croatian + 28.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.26
6 63.2% Croatian + 36.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.27
7 75.1% Croatian + 24.9% South_Italian @ 3.44
8 68.3% Croatian + 31.7% Tuscan @ 3.46
9 53.3% Ukrainian + 46.7% Tuscan @ 3.49
10 52.2% Greek_Thessaly + 47.8% Ukrainian @ 3.6
11 71.9% Croatian + 28.1% Central_Greek @ 3.63
12 59.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 40.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.65
13 78.4% Moldavian + 21.6% West_Sicilian @ 3.65
14 56.5% Bulgarian + 43.5% Croatian @ 3.65
15 78.4% Croatian + 21.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.65
16 73% Croatian + 27% East_Sicilian @ 3.7
17 55.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44.9% Tuscan @ 3.74
18 65% Romanian + 35% Croatian @ 3.74
19 61.6% Ukrainian + 38.4% South_Italian @ 3.77
20 51.7% Tuscan + 48.3% Southwest_Russian @ 3.8

[CommonSense]

Đorđević #2, sister of the woman above:



Kit H590554

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.35
2 North_Atlantic 23.7
3 West_Med 20.09
4 East_Med 15.4
5 West_Asian 9.84
6 Siberian 0.56
7 East_Asian 0.51
8 Red_Sea 0.24
9 Amerindian 0.18
10 Oceanian 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.63
2 Romanian 6.05
3 Bulgarian 7.14
4 Moldavian 7.64
5 Croatian 10.09
6 Hungarian 11.46
7 Austrian 14.4
8 Greek_Thessaly 15.44
9 East_German 15.58
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.49
11 South_Polish 17.31
12 Ukrainian 17.48
13 North_Italian 18.36
14 West_German 19.69
15 Tuscan 19.77
16 French 20.55
17 Polish 20.76
18 Southwest_Russian 20.99
19 South_Dutch 21.06
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.5% Bulgarian + 39.5% Croatian @ 3.66
2 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Sardinian @ 3.74
3 73.8% Bulgarian + 26.2% Ukrainian @ 3.76
4 61.6% Croatian + 38.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.87
5 52.3% Bulgarian + 47.7% Moldavian @ 3.91
6 53.3% Greek_Thessaly + 46.7% Ukrainian @ 3.97
7 73% Bulgarian + 27% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.99
8 77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Polish @ 4.01
9 74.1% Bulgarian + 25.9% South_Polish @ 4.02
10 70.5% Croatian + 29.5% Central_Greek @ 4.06
11 74.1% Croatian + 25.9% South_Italian @ 4.07
12 60.8% Ukrainian + 39.2% South_Italian @ 4.12
13 69.9% Moldavian + 30.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.14
14 75.2% Moldavian + 24.8% Tuscan @ 4.19
15 56.5% Ukrainian + 43.5% Central_Greek @ 4.23
16 59.6% Romanian + 40.4% Moldavian @ 4.24
17 82.8% Bulgarian + 17.2% Estonian @ 4.25
18 80% Bulgarian + 20% Estonian_Polish @ 4.26
19 83% Bulgarian + 17% Lithuanian @ 4.26
20 68.1% Romanian + 31.9% Croatian @ 4.27

[Jana]

I have trouble with where to include Livno samples, have plenty.
Livno, Duvno and Kupres are Tropolje/Završje region, region on exact border between Bosnia, Herzegovina and Dalmatia (tromeđa)

Geographically Livno is rather SW Bosnia, but by origin of population and linguistics I found out they are by vast majority from Dalmatia by origin.
Since they have lot of similarities with Herzegovina and are majority Croats, many include them in Herzegovina.

My father who is quite expert on this claims Livno is closest to Dalmatian hinterland, not either Bosnia or Herzegovina.
There is some truth in that since it looks like account of people who own Sinj and Livno samples are connected and these people are all related.

But, political border is the problem.

I would prefer to add Livno into Dalmatian Hinterland average because origins matter more than politics, but I probably won't.

Will make separate Tropolje average and if it is too similar with Herzegovina one I will blend them togheder. Not going to add it to Bosnia, customs and mentality, etc are too different although geographically it could be counted as part of it.

[Tauromachos]

Very different from Mainland Greeks

[Pribislav]

...

[Pribislav]

I have trouble with where to include Livno samples, have plenty.
Livno, Duvno and Kupres are Tropolje/Završje region, region on exact border between Bosnia, Herzegovina and Dalmatia (tromeđa)

Geographically Livno is rather SW Bosnia, but by origin of population and linguistics I found out they are by vast majority from Dalmatia by origin.
Since they have lot of similarities with Herzegovina and are majority Croats, many include them in Herzegovina.

My father who is quite expert on this claims Livno is closest to Dalmatian hinterland, not either Bosnia or Herzegovina.
There is some truth in that since it looks like account of people who own Sinj and Livno samples are connected and these people are all related.

But, political border is the problem.

I would prefer to add Livno into Dalmatian Hinterland average because origins matter more than politics, but I probably won't.

Will make separate Tropolje average and if it is too similar with Herzegovina one I will blend them togheder. Not going to add it to Bosnia, customs and mentality, etc are too different although geographically it could be counted as part of it.

Livno is SW Bosnia, not Dalmatia neither Herzegovina.

Livno Croatian samples should be included among Bosnian Croatians.

[Jana]

Livno is SW Bosnia, not Dalmatia neither Herzegovina.

Livno Croatian samples should be included among Bosnian Croatians.

They have different origins, customs and dialect than Bosnians, in all of these they are closest to Zagora. But I know it's SW Bosnia by geography.
I need to find out where from are Bosnian_Croat academic samples posted by Vbnethkio.

[CommonSense]

Croat from Komiža, island of Vis (has gedcom):



Kit A067541

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.18
2 North_Atlantic 25.61
3 West_Med 14.9
4 West_Asian 12.92
5 East_Med 11.53
6 Red_Sea 1.5
7 Siberian 0.67
8 Amerindian 0.62
9 Oceanian 0.53
10 East_Asian 0.29
11 South_Asian 0.15
12 Northeast_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.94
2 Serbian 6.1
3 Croatian 6.59
4 Hungarian 7.96
5 Romanian 8.59
6 Bulgarian 10.64
7 Austrian 11.65
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.4
9 East_German 12.63
10 South_Polish 13.28
11 Ukrainian 13.9
12 Polish 16.77
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.88
14 Southwest_Russian 17.01
15 West_German 18.05
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.77
17 Greek_Thessaly 19.46
18 South_Dutch 19.58
19 Estonian_Polish 19.61
20 Tatar 20.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88% Croatian + 12% Georgian @ 2.07
2 88.6% Croatian + 11.4% Abhkasian @ 2.14
3 87.9% Croatian + 12.1% Armenian @ 2.28
4 87% Croatian + 13% Ossetian @ 2.36
5 85.6% Croatian + 14.4% Turkish @ 2.46
6 86.2% Croatian + 13.8% Balkar @ 2.53
7 86.5% Croatian + 13.5% Adygei @ 2.58
8 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Kumyk @ 2.6
9 94% Moldavian + 6% Georgian @ 2.64
10 87.8% Croatian + 12.2% Kurdish @ 2.66
11 86.9% Croatian + 13.1% North_Ossetian @ 2.7
12 94.4% Moldavian + 5.6% Abhkasian @ 2.7
13 93.5% Moldavian + 6.5% Ossetian @ 2.71
14 86.7% Croatian + 13.3% Azeri @ 2.72
15 88.2% Croatian + 11.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.78
16 93% Moldavian + 7% Lezgin @ 2.79
17 92.8% Moldavian + 7.2% Tabassaran @ 2.79
18 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% Adygei @ 2.8
19 85.9% Croatian + 14.1% Kabardin @ 2.8
20 92.9% Moldavian + 7.1% Chechen @ 2.81

[Jana]

Livno is ''i'' on Bosna i Hercegovina.
I think it's best to make them their own region, Završje is old and historical region separate from both Bosnia proper and Herzegovina.

[Jana]

Croat from Komiža, island of Vis (has gedcom):



Kit A067541

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.18
2 North_Atlantic 25.61
3 West_Med 14.9
4 West_Asian 12.92
5 East_Med 11.53
6 Red_Sea 1.5
7 Siberian 0.67
8 Amerindian 0.62
9 Oceanian 0.53
10 East_Asian 0.29
11 South_Asian 0.15
12 Northeast_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.94
2 Serbian 6.1
3 Croatian 6.59
4 Hungarian 7.96
5 Romanian 8.59
6 Bulgarian 10.64
7 Austrian 11.65
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.4
9 East_German 12.63
10 South_Polish 13.28
11 Ukrainian 13.9
12 Polish 16.77
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.88
14 Southwest_Russian 17.01
15 West_German 18.05
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.77
17 Greek_Thessaly 19.46
18 South_Dutch 19.58
19 Estonian_Polish 19.61
20 Tatar 20.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88% Croatian + 12% Georgian @ 2.07
2 88.6% Croatian + 11.4% Abhkasian @ 2.14
3 87.9% Croatian + 12.1% Armenian @ 2.28
4 87% Croatian + 13% Ossetian @ 2.36
5 85.6% Croatian + 14.4% Turkish @ 2.46
6 86.2% Croatian + 13.8% Balkar @ 2.53
7 86.5% Croatian + 13.5% Adygei @ 2.58
8 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Kumyk @ 2.6
9 94% Moldavian + 6% Georgian @ 2.64
10 87.8% Croatian + 12.2% Kurdish @ 2.66
11 86.9% Croatian + 13.1% North_Ossetian @ 2.7
12 94.4% Moldavian + 5.6% Abhkasian @ 2.7
13 93.5% Moldavian + 6.5% Ossetian @ 2.71
14 86.7% Croatian + 13.3% Azeri @ 2.72
15 88.2% Croatian + 11.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.78
16 93% Moldavian + 7% Lezgin @ 2.79
17 92.8% Moldavian + 7.2% Tabassaran @ 2.79
18 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% Adygei @ 2.8
19 85.9% Croatian + 14.1% Kabardin @ 2.8
20 92.9% Moldavian + 7.1% Chechen @ 2.81



Thank you thank you thank you!

So excited to receive full islander samples!!!

:thumb001:

Tomorrow my mom will call her father's sister in US, she is really old and promised to DNA test (actually did once, but sample failed :( )
She is full from my Island.

[CommonSense]

Brother of that woman from Vis island:



Kit M524398

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.13
2 North_Atlantic 25.83
3 East_Med 14.86
4 West_Med 13.92
5 West_Asian 9.14
6 Red_Sea 2.2
7 Amerindian 1.02
8 Siberian 0.49
9 Oceanian 0.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.64
2 Serbian 4.97
3 Croatian 6.18
4 Hungarian 7.3
5 Romanian 8.19
6 Bulgarian 10.15
7 Austrian 11.78
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.3
9 East_German 12.74
10 South_Polish 12.88
11 Ukrainian 13.53
12 Polish 16.38
13 Southwest_Russian 16.4
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.68
15 Russian_Smolensk 18.3
16 West_German 18.32
17 Estonian_Polish 18.8
18 Greek_Thessaly 18.89
19 Belorussian 19.26
20 South_Dutch 19.87

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.4% Romanian + 29.6% Belorussian @ 1.31
2 51.1% Lithuanian + 48.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.37
3 74.8% Romanian + 25.2% Lithuanian @ 1.51
4 57.1% Estonian_Polish + 42.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.52
5 70% Romanian + 30% Estonian_Polish @ 1.55
6 69.4% Romanian + 30.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.64
7 69.9% Bulgarian + 30.1% Estonian @ 1.65
8 56.5% Belorussian + 43.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.71
9 67.1% Romanian + 32.9% Southwest_Russian @ 1.75
10 88.5% Croatian + 11.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.75
11 61.3% Polish + 38.7% Central_Greek @ 1.75
12 65.7% Bulgarian + 34.3% Belorussian @ 1.76
13 62% Bulgarian + 38% Polish @ 1.76
14 66.9% South_Polish + 33.1% Central_Greek @ 1.8
15 57.8% Russian_Smolensk + 42.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.82
16 56.1% Bulgarian + 43.9% South_Polish @ 1.86
17 58.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.7% Tuscan @ 1.86
18 64.9% Polish + 35.1% South_Italian @ 1.86
19 52.6% Estonian + 47.4% Central_Greek @ 1.92
20 59.6% South_Polish + 40.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.96

[Pribislav]

They have different origins, customs and dialect than Bosnians, in all of these they are closest to Zagora.
I need to find out where from are Bosnian_Croat academic samples posted by Vbnethkio.

That is one and polital borders are other thing.

Serbs from Bosanska Krajina are related with Serbs from Dalmatia, Lika, Kordun and Banija (especially with Lika and Dalmatian Serbs). All of them are connected with migrations from one side on other and in a circle for centuries. Still Bosanska Krajina Serbs are geographically located in Bosnia like Serbs from East Bosnia, regardless they are much more related with Lika/Dalmatia/Kordun/Banija Serbs than with East Bosnia Serbs. Bosanska Krajina Serbs are not classic Bosnians, most of them don't have stereotypical Bosnian accent like those from Ozren area or East Bosnia for example.

[Jana]

^^^^Do you find these people trough FTDNA? Can you teach me how?

[Jana]

That is one and polital borders are other thing.

Serbs from Bosanska Krajina are related with Serbs from Dalmatia, Lika, Kordun and Banija (especially with Lika and Dalmatian Serbs). All of them are connected with migrations from one side on other and in a circle for centuries. Still Bosanska Krajina Serbs are geographically located in Bosnia like Serbs from East Bosnia, regardless they are much more related with Lika/Dalmatia/Kordun/Banija Serbs than with East Bosnia Serbs. Bosanska Krajina Serbs are not classic Bosnians, most of them they don't have stereotypical Bosnian accent like those from Ozren region or East Bosnia for example.

You have a point, yes. I won't add Livno to Herzegovina. It will be Tropolje region.
So I will have Bosnia, Herzegovina and Tropolje for BiH Croats, we'll see how they score.

[Jana]

''Real Bosnia'' is actually not big. To me real Bosnia is Zenica, Kakanj, Sarajevo...
Area in light + dark green (central Bosnia+Vrhbosna). Also east Bosnia in yellow, I guess...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Regije_BiH.svg/1200px-Regije_BiH.svg.png

But ofcourse, this is too puritan definition.

[CommonSense]

Špar, from the island Ugljan, near Zadar (like Belfranin whose results I posted long ago):



Kit A351756

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 34.29
2 North_Atlantic 25.87
3 West_Med 16.08
4 East_Med 10.09
5 West_Asian 7.56
6 Red_Sea 2.86
7 Siberian 1.14
8 Oceanian 0.82
9 Amerindian 0.62
10 Sub-Saharan 0.51
11 East_Asian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.12
2 Croatian 3.17
3 Hungarian 7.14
4 Serbian 8.1
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.93
6 South_Polish 10.19
7 Ukrainian 10.39
8 Austrian 10.99
9 East_German 11.07
10 Romanian 11.65
11 Polish 13.33
12 Bulgarian 13.66
13 Southwest_Russian 14.11
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.51
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.49
16 Estonian_Polish 15.98
17 Belorussian 16.72
18 Kargopol_Russian 17.87
19 West_German 18.52
20 Southwest_Finnish 18.84

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.8% West_Sicilian @ 1.96
2 74.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 25.2% Tuscan @ 1.98
3 94.6% Croatian + 5.4% Moroccan @ 1.99
4 94.6% Croatian + 5.4% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.04
5 94.6% Croatian + 5.4% Tunisian @ 2.06
6 94.6% Croatian + 5.4% Algerian @ 2.07
7 95.1% Croatian + 4.9% Sardinian @ 2.16
8 94.4% Croatian + 5.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.23
9 93.2% Croatian + 6.8% East_Sicilian @ 2.28
10 93% Croatian + 7% West_Sicilian @ 2.28
11 91% Croatian + 9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.3
12 93% Croatian + 7% Central_Greek @ 2.31
13 94.7% Croatian + 5.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.31
14 93.9% Croatian + 6.1% South_Italian @ 2.32
15 95.1% Croatian + 4.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.32
16 95.1% Croatian + 4.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.32
17 94.7% Croatian + 5.3% Italian_Jewish @ 2.33
18 92.3% Croatian + 7.7% Tuscan @ 2.33
19 95.8% Croatian + 4.2% Bedouin @ 2.35
20 93.7% Croatian + 6.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.37

[CommonSense]

Son of Špar and Belfranin (so you can count him among the Ugljen Croats)



Kit M508107

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 29.33
2 Baltic 27.35
3 West_Med 16.04
4 East_Med 15.35
5 West_Asian 7.34
6 Red_Sea 1.51
7 South_Asian 0.98
8 Siberian 0.77
9 East_Asian 0.76
10 Amerindian 0.33
11 Sub-Saharan 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 2.91
2 Romanian 6.59
3 Hungarian 7.14
4 Moldavian 8.53
5 Bulgarian 9.37
6 Austrian 9.57
7 Croatian 9.59
8 East_German 11.36
9 West_German 14.13
10 French 15.6
11 South_Dutch 15.62
12 South_Polish 15.91
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.03
14 North_Italian 16.83
15 Greek_Thessaly 16.9
16 Ukrainian 17.11
17 North_German 18.92
18 Portuguese 18.97
19 Tuscan 19
20 Spanish_Galicia 19.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.5% South_Polish + 45.5% Tuscan @ 1.47
2 90.5% Serbian + 9.5% Southeast_English @ 1.92
3 88% Serbian + 12% South_Dutch @ 2
4 71% Hungarian + 29% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.01
5 91.4% Serbian + 8.6% Orcadian @ 2.01
6 82.8% Hungarian + 17.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.02
7 77.3% Hungarian + 22.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.04
8 87.1% Serbian + 12.9% West_German @ 2.04
9 91.7% Serbian + 8.3% Southwest_English @ 2.04
10 91.1% Serbian + 8.9% Danish @ 2.05
11 92.2% Serbian + 7.8% West_Scottish @ 2.08
12 91.4% Serbian + 8.6% North_Dutch @ 2.1
13 91.9% Serbian + 8.1% Norwegian @ 2.11
14 92.2% Serbian + 7.8% Irish @ 2.12
15 82.4% Serbian + 17.6% Austrian @ 2.12
16 85% Serbian + 15% East_German @ 2.15
17 88.7% Serbian + 11.3% French @ 2.15
18 91.8% Serbian + 8.2% Swedish @ 2.17
19 90.6% Serbian + 9.4% North_German @ 2.17
20 50.9% Tuscan + 49.1% Polish @ 2.2

[CommonSense]

Ledinek, Slovene:



Kit YW6362077

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.48
2 North_Atlantic 30.5
3 West_Med 12.49
4 East_Med 10.02
5 West_Asian 7.87
6 South_Asian 1.91
7 Red_Sea 0.66
8 Amerindian 0.52
9 Sub-Saharan 0.47
10 Siberian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.76
2 Hungarian 4.1
3 Moldavian 6.49
4 South_Polish 7.02
5 East_German 7.7
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.8
7 Austrian 8.18
8 Ukrainian 8.77
9 Serbian 10.05
10 Polish 10.81
11 Southwest_Russian 12.46
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.69
13 Russian_Smolensk 13.47
14 Estonian_Polish 14.1
15 Romanian 14.14
16 Belorussian 14.37
17 Southwest_Finnish 15.2
18 North_Swedish 15.96
19 West_German 16.19
20 Bulgarian 16.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.6% Hungarian + 22.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.93
2 82% South_Polish + 18% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.02
3 80.7% South_Polish + 19.3% Tuscan @ 2.03
4 77.7% Hungarian + 22.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.08
5 70.8% Hungarian + 29.2% Ukrainian @ 2.1
6 59.5% South_Polish + 40.5% Serbian @ 2.15
7 82.8% South_Polish + 17.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.19
8 68.4% Hungarian + 31.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.19
9 79.4% Hungarian + 20.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.22
10 66% Hungarian + 34% South_Polish @ 2.23
11 84.9% Croatian + 15.1% North_German @ 2.26
12 86.7% Croatian + 13.3% Danish @ 2.27
13 80.4% Hungarian + 19.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.32
14 53.4% Croatian + 46.6% Hungarian @ 2.34
15 87.4% Croatian + 12.6% Norwegian @ 2.37
16 86.1% Croatian + 13.9% Swedish @ 2.37
17 67.8% South_Polish + 32.2% Romanian @ 2.38
18 87.4% Croatian + 12.6% North_Dutch @ 2.41
19 85% Hungarian + 15% Lithuanian @ 2.42
20 84.6% South_Polish + 15.4% South_Italian @ 2.43

[CommonSense]

Šutalo, Croat from Herzegovina:



Kit PQ6381149

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.04
2 North_Atlantic 21.54
3 East_Med 18.38
4 West_Med 12.67
5 West_Asian 11.36
6 Red_Sea 1.72
7 Oceanian 0.8
8 South_Asian 0.75
9 Sub-Saharan 0.39
10 Siberian 0.36

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 7.68
2 Moldavian 7.9
3 Romanian 8.27
4 Bulgarian 8.73
5 Croatian 10.41
6 Hungarian 12.3
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.56
8 South_Polish 16.45
9 Ukrainian 16.65
10 Austrian 16.73
11 Greek_Thessaly 17.06
12 East_German 17.8
13 Southwest_Russian 18.41
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.53
15 Polish 19.74
16 Russian_Smolensk 20.87
17 Estonian_Polish 21.38
18 Tatar 21.57
19 Belorussian 21.85
20 West_German 22.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.7% Ukrainian + 28.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.32
2 57.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 42.1% Ashkenazi @ 2.6
3 64.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 35.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.63
4 63% Belorussian + 37% Cyprian @ 2.7
5 64.1% Russian_Smolensk + 35.9% Cyprian @ 2.8
6 56.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 43.9% Central_Greek @ 2.81
7 56.3% Southwest_Russian + 43.7% Central_Greek @ 2.85
8 60.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 39.6% South_Italian @ 2.9
9 72.8% South_Polish + 27.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.91
10 67% Southwest_Russian + 33% Cyprian @ 2.91
11 72.5% Ukrainian + 27.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.93
12 64.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 35.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.95
13 57.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 42.6% East_Sicilian @ 3
14 65.4% Polish + 34.6% Cyprian @ 3.01
15 69.3% Ukrainian + 30.7% Cyprian @ 3.01
16 63.6% Estonian_Polish + 36.4% Cyprian @ 3.03
17 73.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 26.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.03
18 69.6% South_Polish + 30.4% Cyprian @ 3.04
19 58.6% Lithuanian + 41.4% Cyprian @ 3.06
20 64.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 35.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.09

[Jana]

:thumb001::thumb001::thumb001:

All added to the database :)

[knez01]

I have trouble with where to include Livno samples, have plenty.
Livno, Duvno and Kupres are Tropolje/Završje region, region on exact border between Bosnia, Herzegovina and Dalmatia (tromeđa)

Geographically Livno is rather SW Bosnia, but by origin of population and linguistics I found out they are by vast majority from Dalmatia by origin.
Since they have lot of similarities with Herzegovina and are majority Croats, many include them in Herzegovina.

My father who is quite expert on this claims Livno is closest to Dalmatian hinterland, not either Bosnia or Herzegovina.
There is some truth in that since it looks like account of people who own Sinj and Livno samples are connected and these people are all related.

But, political border is the problem.

I would prefer to add Livno into Dalmatian Hinterland average because origins matter more than politics, but I probably won't.

Will make separate Tropolje average and if it is too similar with Herzegovina one I will blend them togheder. Not going to add it to Bosnia, customs and mentality, etc are too different although geographically it could be counted as part of it.

I am partially from a village between Livno and Sinj, my family from there looks quite slavic, their surnames are the most common in Dalmatia and they speak like people from Sinj. In my opinion they're basically Hinterland Dalmatians in every single way but if u can't include them in the Dalmatian average, just add them to the Herzegovinian average. Because they really aren't Bosnian, at least the villages west of Livno, and in my opinion they aren't Herzegovinian either.

[Pribislav]

Rajović, Montenegrin (kit T941306)

# Population percent
1 Baltic 25.99
2 North_Atlantic 23.64
3 West_Med 18.24
4 East_Med 17.13
5 West_Asian 11.85
6 Amerindian 1.35
7 Northeast_African 0.55
8 Siberian 0.26
9 Oceanian 0.19

Single Popupation Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance:
1 Romanian 2.71
2 Bulgarian 3.86
3 Serbian 5.22
4 Moldavian 9.73
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.39
6 Croatian 12.54
7 Hungarian 12.6
8 Austrian 14.53
9 North_Italian 16.69
10 East_German 17.12
11 Tuscan 17.2
12 Italian_Abruzzo 18.52
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.06
14 Central_Greek 19.21
15 West_German 19.49
16 South_Polish 19.81
17 French 20.08
18 West_Sicilian 20.11
19 Ukrainian 20.26
20 East_Sicilian 20.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.1% Bulgarian + 15.9% East_German @ 2.14
2 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Croatian @ 2.18
3 79.9% Bulgarian + 20.1% Hungarian @ 2.26
4 75.4% Bulgarian + 24.6% Moldavian @ 2.31
5 83.3% Bulgarian + 16.7% Austrian @ 2.34
6 86.5% Bulgarian + 13.5% South_Polish @ 2.35
7 88.4% Bulgarian + 11.6 Polish @ 2.36
8 87% Bulgarian + 13% Ukrainian @ 2.4
9 88.4% Romanian + 11.6% Moldavian @ 2.42
10 86.3% Bulgarian + 13.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.42
11 90.3% Bulgarian + 9.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.42
12 91.6% Romanian + 8.4% Croatian @ 2.47
13 90.3% Bulgarian + 9.7% North_Swedish @ 2.47
14 94.8% Romanian + 5.2% Ukrainian @ 2.48
15 91.1% Bulgarian + 8.9% Estonian @ 2.48
16 95.7% Romanian + 4.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.5
17 94.8% Romanian + 5.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.51
18 95.8% Romanian + 4.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.52
19 96.6% Romanian + 3.4% Erzya @ 2.52
20 96.8% Romanian + 3.2% Lithuanian @ 2.52

[CommonSense]

Milićević, Serb from Šumadija

Y-DNA: I2-PH908



Kit NZ3068784

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.1
2 North_Atlantic 26.26
3 East_Med 21.35
4 West_Med 14.91
5 West_Asian 6.1
6 Red_Sea 1.87
7 Siberian 1.19
8 Amerindian 0.89
9 South_Asian 0.26
10 Oceanian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.92
2 Romanian 6.34
3 Bulgarian 7.56
4 Moldavian 11.58
5 Hungarian 11.85
6 Croatian 13.12
7 Greek_Thessaly 14.07
8 Austrian 15
9 East_German 16.69
10 North_Italian 17.45
11 Tuscan 17.74
12 West_German 18.82
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.21
14 South_Polish 19.29
15 French 19.55
16 Italian_Abruzzo 19.99
17 Ukrainian 20.1
18 South_Dutch 20.39
19 West_Sicilian 20.91
20 Central_Greek 21.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.2% Italian_Jewish + 49.8% Estonian @ 3.4
2 60.3% South_Polish + 39.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.66
3 54.6% Ashkenazi + 45.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.73
4 53.4% South_Polish + 46.6% Ashkenazi @ 3.89
5 57.2% Ashkenazi + 42.8% Estonian @ 4.11
6 56.1% Polish + 43.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.11
7 66.1% Hungarian + 33.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.11
8 53.5% Belorussian + 46.5% Italian_Jewish @ 4.17
9 54.9% West_Sicilian + 45.1% Belorussian @ 4.19
10 51% Ashkenazi + 49% Polish @ 4.42
11 59.4% Ukrainian + 40.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.43
12 52.4% Southwest_Finnish + 47.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.48
13 53.8% Estonian_Polish + 46.2% Italian_Jewish @ 4.53
14 50.2% Estonian + 49.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.56
15 60.8% South_Polish + 39.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.58
16 60.8% South_Polish + 39.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.58
17 54.7% West_Sicilian + 45.3% Estonian_Polish @ 4.62
18 58.6% West_Sicilian + 41.4% Estonian @ 4.62
19 66.1% Greek_Thessaly + 33.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.63
20 50.2% Finnish + 49.8% Italian_Jewish @ 4.64

[Jana]

I am partially from a village between Livno and Sinj, my family from there looks quite slavic, their surnames are the most common in Dalmatia and they speak like people from Sinj. In my opinion they're basically Hinterland Dalmatians in every single way but if u can't include them in the Dalmatian average, just add them to the Herzegovinian average. Because they really aren't Bosnian, at least the villages west of Livno, and in my opinion they aren't Herzegovinian either.

Hey! Your mom is from Zadar and dad from Završje?
I actually see now you are in Croatian range, there are few other samples with results not too far from yours.

[Jana]

I think I found proper Janjevo Croat. He is from Zagreb, and he is member of Croatian DNA project.
His surname exist among Albanians and Croats from Kosovo, but he is not Albanian, and since he is from Zagreb my conclusion is he is Janjevac.
I would need to speak with him to confirm it for sure, but he is a Croat because he tested YDNA and would be in Albanian project if he had Albanian father.
Also from some posts he wrote it's quite obvious he is a Croat, he asked other members to post their K13 and posted his, he doesn't seem aware of any foreign ancestry.

He belongs to this branch of R1b. most common among Albanians, also found in Saudi Arabia, Italy and Montenegro.

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-PF7566/

North_Atlantic 23.96
Baltic 24.99
West_Med 21.20
West_Asian 12.02
East_Med 13.40
Red_Sea 2.86
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.92
Oceanian 0.66
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Distance to: X

4.62126606 Bosniak_Sandzak
5.01586483 Romanian_Transylvania
5.64054876 Montenegrin
6.39032863 Macedonian_Northwest
6.42764343 Romanian_Oltenia
6.51156663 Romanian_Average
6.77935838 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
6.79326873 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
6.87513054 Macedonian
6.95066184 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
6.96519203 Serb_North-Macedonia
7.32954978 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
7.44667040 Serb_Croatia
7.48958610 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
7.50280614 Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
7.54277800 Bulgarian_Sofia
7.80595286 Bulgarian_Central
7.94550187 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
7.95372869 Bulgarian
8.19366994 Serbian_new
8.20163398 Bulgarian_Serres
8.27510725 Romanian_Muntenia
8.47304734 North_Macedonian
8.50962984 Macedonian_Central
8.59780786 Bulgarian_Pleven

[Aspirin]

Milićević, Serb from Šumadija

Y-DNA: I2-PH908



Kit NZ3068784

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.1
2 North_Atlantic 26.26
3 East_Med 21.35
4 West_Med 14.91
5 West_Asian 6.1
6 Red_Sea 1.87
7 Siberian 1.19
8 Amerindian 0.89
9 South_Asian 0.26
10 Oceanian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.92
2 Romanian 6.34
3 Bulgarian 7.56
4 Moldavian 11.58
5 Hungarian 11.85
6 Croatian 13.12
7 Greek_Thessaly 14.07
8 Austrian 15
9 East_German 16.69
10 North_Italian 17.45
11 Tuscan 17.74
12 West_German 18.82
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.21
14 South_Polish 19.29
15 French 19.55
16 Italian_Abruzzo 19.99
17 Ukrainian 20.1
18 South_Dutch 20.39
19 West_Sicilian 20.91
20 Central_Greek 21.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.2% Italian_Jewish + 49.8% Estonian @ 3.4
2 60.3% South_Polish + 39.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.66
3 54.6% Ashkenazi + 45.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.73
4 53.4% South_Polish + 46.6% Ashkenazi @ 3.89
5 57.2% Ashkenazi + 42.8% Estonian @ 4.11
6 56.1% Polish + 43.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.11
7 66.1% Hungarian + 33.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.11
8 53.5% Belorussian + 46.5% Italian_Jewish @ 4.17
9 54.9% West_Sicilian + 45.1% Belorussian @ 4.19
10 51% Ashkenazi + 49% Polish @ 4.42
11 59.4% Ukrainian + 40.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.43
12 52.4% Southwest_Finnish + 47.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.48
13 53.8% Estonian_Polish + 46.2% Italian_Jewish @ 4.53
14 50.2% Estonian + 49.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.56
15 60.8% South_Polish + 39.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.58
16 60.8% South_Polish + 39.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.58
17 54.7% West_Sicilian + 45.3% Estonian_Polish @ 4.62
18 58.6% West_Sicilian + 41.4% Estonian @ 4.62
19 66.1% Greek_Thessaly + 33.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.63
20 50.2% Finnish + 49.8% Italian_Jewish @ 4.64



First time I see a Serb with so high East Med.

[Pribislav]

First time I see a Serb with so high East Med.

Me too.

This Serbian girl/woman score pretty high East Med 97667
She is from Belgrade. I don't know for further origin, most of people in Belgrade have ancestors from different regions (in Belgrade live Serbs and even some non-Serb from whole former Yugoslavia).

[knez01]

Hey! Your mom is from Zadar and dad from Završje?
I actually see now you are in Croatian range, there are few other samples with results not too far from yours.

Yes

[Pribislav]

Romanian guy who is R1a-M458 and who is from Serbian part of Banat claim Cuman origin for years on one Serbian forum. :lol:

[Ion Basescul]

My relative on GEDmatch
Surname Momić


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
30.94


2
North_Atlantic
23.95


3
West_Med
17.6


4
East_Med
13.82


5
West_Asian
8.39


6
Red_Sea
2.11


7
East_Asian
1.89


8
Siberian
0.67


9
South_Asian
0.23


10
Oceanian
0.17


11
Northeast_African
0.16


12
Amerindian
0.07

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
5.04


2
Moldavian
5.09


3
Croatian
7.43


4
Romanian
7.43


5
Bulgarian
9.02


6
Hungarian
9.43


7
Austrian
12.99


8
Ukrainian_Lviv
13.69


9
East_German
13.91


10
South_Polish
14.67


11
Ukrainian
14.82


12
Greek_Thessaly
17.51


13
Polish
18.05


14
Southwest_Russian
18.28


15
Ukrainian_Belgorod
18.57


16
West_German
19.18


17
Russian_Smolensk
20.02


18
North_Italian
20.28


19
Estonian_Polish
20.46


20
South_Dutch
20.52

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

54.3%
Ukrainian
+
45.7%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.5


2

63.1%
Ukrainian
+
36.9%
West_Sicilian
@
2.58


3

66.3%
Ukrainian
+
33.7%
South_Italian
@
2.58


4

71.4%
Croatian
+
28.6%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.64


5

83%
Croatian
+
17%
Algerian_Jewish
@
2.67


6

55.4%
Croatian
+
44.6%
Bulgarian
@
2.69


7

62.6%
Ukrainian
+
37.4%
Central_Greek
@
2.69


8

63.7%
Ukrainian
+
36.3%
East_Sicilian
@
2.72


9

78%
Croatian
+
22%
Central_Greek
@
2.77


10

62.9%
Bulgarian
+
37.1%
Ukrainian
@
2.78


11

78.8%
Croatian
+
21.2%
East_Sicilian
@
2.8


12

80.7%
Croatian
+
19.3%
South_Italian
@
2.82


13

56.3%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
43.7%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.87


14

61%
Bulgarian
+
39%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
2.91


15

83.2%
Croatian
+
16.8%
Italian_Jewish
@
2.91


16

79.8%
Croatian
+
20.2%
Ashkenazi
@
2.98


17

78.6%
Croatian
+
21.4%
West_Sicilian
@
2.98


18

84%
Moldavian
+
16%
Tuscan
@
3


19

85.9%
Moldavian
+
14.1%
West_Sicilian
@
3.03


20

91.1%
Moldavian
+
8.9%
Sardinian
@
3.05



</tbody>

[Ion Basescul]

Romanian guy who is R1a-M458 and who is from Serbian part of Banat claim Cuman origin for years on one Serbian forum. :lol:

R1a is not that uncommon among Turkics.

[Aspirin]

R1a is not that uncommon among Turkics.

R1a-M458 is not Turkic.

[Ion Basescul]

Another relative
Surname Prohić


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
32.01


2
North_Atlantic
25.02


3
West_Med
15.62


4
East_Med
14.89


5
West_Asian
9.8


6
Siberian
1.48


7
Red_Sea
0.49


8
Oceanian
0.39


9
Sub-Saharan
0.31

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Moldavian
4.52


2
Serbian
5.07


3
Croatian
6.78


4
Romanian
7.68


5
Hungarian
8.37


6
Bulgarian
9.43


7
Austrian
12.54


8
Ukrainian_Lviv
12.94


9
East_German
13.47


10
South_Polish
13.54


11
Ukrainian
13.98


12
Southwest_Russian
17.01


13
Polish
17.18


14
Ukrainian_Belgorod
17.31


15
Greek_Thessaly
18.35


16
West_German
18.93


17
Russian_Smolensk
19.05


18
Estonian_Polish
19.52


19
Belorussian
20.08


20
South_Dutch
20.43

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

59.2%
Bulgarian
+
40.8%
South_Polish
@
1.64


2

72.1%
Bulgarian
+
27.9%
Estonian
@
1.73


3

60%
Bulgarian
+
40%
Ukrainian
@
1.75


4

64.9%
Bulgarian
+
35.1%
Polish
@
2


5

69.5%
Romanian
+
30.5%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.02


6

68.5%
Bulgarian
+
31.5%
Belorussian
@
2.08


7

65.2%
Romanian
+
34.8%
Ukrainian
@
2.09


8

67.9%
Bulgarian
+
32.1%
Estonian_Polish
@
2.13


9

76.9%
Romanian
+
23.1%
Lithuanian
@
2.14


10

72.7%
Bulgarian
+
27.3%
Lithuanian
@
2.16


11

72.5%
Romanian
+
27.5%
Estonian_Polish
@
2.17


12

67.4%
Bulgarian
+
32.6%
Russian_Smolensk
@
2.19


13

58.2%
Bulgarian
+
41.8%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
2.22


14

73.1%
Romanian
+
26.9%
Belorussian
@
2.27


15

70%
Romanian
+
30%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.28


16

58.9%
Croatian
+
41.1%
Bulgarian
@
2.28


17

68.2%
Ukrainian
+
31.8%
South_Italian
@
2.28


18

64.6%
Ukrainian
+
35.4%
Central_Greek
@
2.29


19

72.1%
Romanian
+
27.9%
Russian_Smolensk
@
2.31


20

64.9%
Bulgarian
+
35.1%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.36



</tbody>

[Ion Basescul]

R1a-M458 is not Turkic.

Nobody's talking about M458 specifically.
Cumans spoke a Kipchak language, same as modern Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Tatar and Bashkir people.

R1a peaks at 63% in Kyrgyz, followed by Kazakhs with 28% and Bashkirs with 27%. Tatars have between 14% to 50%, depending on the country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_Central_and_Nort h_Asia

[Pribislav]

R1a is not that uncommon among Turkics.

One of his fresh posts (his nick Pravi Vlah means Real Vlach) https://forum.krstarica.com/threads/vlasi-balkanski-fenomen.764445/page-93#post-39851071

Translation:

You don't understand there is no Slavic genetic. Such thing doesn't exist! Only exist genetic mixes who are among Slavs. There is two reasons for that. First, genetic is much older that modern populations. Second, modern populations are heterogeneous. Every modern Slav has multiple origins of tens genetic sources. What more genetic of some Slav is different than genetic of other Slav even if they are from same place.

You suffer of nationalism here which is possible only with wrong by wrong understanding genetics. There is no one genetic mix which represent Serbs. Every Serb is different from any other Serb. It's obvuous when you open eyes and look upside down.

Otherwise, I am Cumam with slanted eyes. :)


Tittle of thread "Vlasi --- Balkanski fenomen" means "Vlachs Balkan phenomenon" https://forum.krstarica.com/threads/vlasi-balkanski-fenomen.764445/

[Ion Basescul]

Gedmatch relative from Bulgaria
Surname Koychev


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
North_Atlantic
21.72


2
East_Med
19.97


3
Baltic
19.55


4
West_Med
19.51


5
West_Asian
12.56


6
Red_Sea
3.72


7
Siberian
1.43


8
Amerindian
1.07


9
Oceanian
0.46

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Bulgarian
4.78


2
Romanian
6.04


3
Greek_Thessaly
6.27


4
Serbian
10.25


5
Tuscan
11.75


6
Italian_Abruzzo
11.97


7
Central_Greek
12.66


8
North_Italian
13.43


9
West_Sicilian
13.61


10
East_Sicilian
13.97


11
Moldavian
15.95


12
Ashkenazi
16.42


13
South_Italian
16.88


14
Hungarian
18.29


15
Croatian
19


16
Portuguese
20.02


17
Austrian
20.33


18
Spanish_Extremadura
20.61


19
Spanish_Galicia
20.75


20
French
21.11

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

51.4%
Moldavian
+
48.6%
South_Italian
@
2.05


2

68.9%
Romanian
+
31.1%
Central_Greek
@
2.19


3

60.2%
South_Italian
+
39.8%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
2.25


4

74.9%
Romanian
+
25.1%
South_Italian
@
2.26


5

53%
South_Italian
+
47%
Croatian
@
2.27


6

57.3%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
42.7%
Moldavian
@
2.29


7

71.2%
Romanian
+
28.8%
East_Sicilian
@
2.32


8

60.3%
Central_Greek
+
39.7%
Croatian
@
2.36


9

55.9%
Central_Greek
+
44.1%
Moldavian
@
2.41


10

51.1%
Romanian
+
48.9%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.51


11

55.5%
Serbian
+
44.5%
Central_Greek
@
2.52


12

61.5%
South_Italian
+
38.5%
Ukrainian
@
2.61


13

67.1%
Central_Greek
+
32.9%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
2.62


14

74.5%
Bulgarian
+
25.5%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.62


15

73.2%
Central_Greek
+
26.8%
Southwest_Finnish
@
2.67


16

68.3%
Romanian
+
31.7%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.69


17

64.1%
South_Italian
+
35.9%
Polish
@
2.69


18

59.4%
Central_Greek
+
40.6%
Hungarian
@
2.71


19

67.9%
Central_Greek
+
32.1%
South_Polish
@
2.72


20

71.2%
Romanian
+
28.8%
West_Sicilian
@
2.74



</tbody>

[Karol Klačansky]

Croats from Herzegovina, all from several villages around Mostar. I just spoke with their account menager, she was very kind and helpful :)

1)

North_Atlantic 25.57 Pct
Baltic 31.57 Pct
West_Med 17.27 Pct
West_Asian 9.17 Pct
East_Med 13.67 Pct
Red_Sea 0.17 Pct
South_Asian 1.08 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.19 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.48 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.78 Pct

2)

North_Atlantic 31.24 Pct
Baltic 28.80 Pct
West_Med 18.70 Pct
West_Asian 7.53 Pct
East_Med 11.65 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.26 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.83 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

3)

North_Atlantic 22.19 Pct
Baltic 35.64 Pct
West_Med 16.03 Pct
West_Asian 7.99 Pct
East_Med 14.58 Pct
Red_Sea 0.63 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.92 Pct
Siberian 0.38 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.85 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.79 Pct

4)

North_Atlantic 27.03 Pct
Baltic 31.26 Pct
West_Med 15.41 Pct
West_Asian 10.04 Pct
East_Med 14.23 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.05 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.99 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

5)

North_Atlantic 28.89 Pct
Baltic 30.02 Pct
West_Med 13.90 Pct
West_Asian 7.71 Pct
East_Med 16.42 Pct
Red_Sea 1.67 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.29 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.08 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

6)

North_Atlantic 27.16 Pct
Baltic 29.16 Pct
West_Med 19.85 Pct
West_Asian 10.50 Pct
East_Med 10.48 Pct
Red_Sea 1.32 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.42 Pct
Oceanian 0.73 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.38 Pct

7)

North_Atlantic 19.76 Pct
Baltic 35.05 Pct
West_Med 19.78 Pct
West_Asian 8.15 Pct
East_Med 14.69 Pct
Red_Sea 0.71 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.60 Pct
Amerindian 1.02 Pct
Oceanian 0.24 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

8)

North_Atlantic 23.66 Pct
Baltic 33.18 Pct
West_Med 14.10 Pct
West_Asian 8.62 Pct
East_Med 16.69 Pct
Red_Sea 0.96 Pct
South_Asian 0.23 Pct
East_Asian 1.10 Pct
Siberian 0.15 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 1.01 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.30 Pct

9)

North_Atlantic 25.28 Pct
Baltic 29.52 Pct
West_Med 14.96 Pct
West_Asian 11.40 Pct
East_Med 14.14 Pct
Red_Sea 2.02 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.49 Pct
Siberian 1.15 Pct
Amerindian 0.45 Pct
Oceanian 0.59 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
some of these individuals are insanely Slavic genetically, I'm guessing a few aren't even distant to western Ukrainians. Still amazes me some people try and act like Slavic influence in the balkans was negligible.

[Jana]

@Ion, interesting samples, but we can't know their ethnicity and full ancestry just going by surname.
Momić should be Serbian surname, Prohić should be either Croat or Bosniak, but who knows, it is just one line.

[Jana]

R1a-M458 is not Turkic.

Some basal M458 clades are found among Turkic Balkars in the Caucasus though.

[Pribislav]

@Ion, interesting samples, but we can't know their ethnicity and full ancestry just going by surname.
Momić should be Serbian surname, Prohić should be either Croat or Bosniak, but who knows, it is just one line.

Yes.


From "Serbian dna project."

Momić (Mitrovdan, Brnjeuška/Glina) - R1b>R-BY16680

[Ion Basescul]

Another relative


Jozić

<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
29.48


2
North_Atlantic
25.51


3
East_Med
15.53


4
West_Med
14.67


5
West_Asian
11.81


6
Red_Sea
1.13


7
Oceanian
0.67


8
Amerindian
0.58


9
South_Asian
0.33


10
East_Asian
0.3

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
3.74


2
Romanian
5.67


3
Moldavian
6.23


4
Bulgarian
7.66


5
Croatian
8.69


6
Hungarian
8.89


7
Austrian
12.59


8
East_German
14.03


9
Ukrainian_Lviv
14.98


10
South_Polish
15.49


11
Ukrainian
16.24


12
Greek_Thessaly
16.55


13
West_German
18.09


14
Polish
19.14


15
Southwest_Russian
19.16


16
Ukrainian_Belgorod
19.2


17
South_Dutch
19.78


18
North_Italian
20.09


19
French
20.22


20
Tuscan
21.05

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

78%
Romanian
+
22%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
1.8


2

67.6%
Bulgarian
+
32.4%
South_Polish
@
2.08


3

78.4%
Romanian
+
21.6%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.12


4

60.2%
South_Polish
+
39.8%
Central_Greek
@
2.13


5

80%
Romanian
+
20%
Russian_Smolensk
@
2.14


6

83.5%
Romanian
+
16.5%
Lithuanian
@
2.16


7

74.6%
Romanian
+
25.4%
South_Polish
@
2.23


8

53.8%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
46.2%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.27


9

81%
Romanian
+
19%
Belorussian
@
2.28


10

78.5%
Romanian
+
21.5%
Polish
@
2.28


11

75.7%
Romanian
+
24.3%
Ukrainian
@
2.37


12

72.3%
Bulgarian
+
27.7%
Polish
@
2.37


13

80.8%
Romanian
+
19.2%
Estonian_Polish
@
2.39


14

74.2%
Romanian
+
25.8%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
2.39


15

62%
Romanian
+
38%
Croatian
@
2.48


16

64.3%
South_Polish
+
35.7%
South_Italian
@
2.5


17

58%
Ukrainian
+
42%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.5


18

83.7%
Romanian
+
16.3%
Estonian
@
2.52


19

54.5%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
45.5%
Lithuanian
@
2.53


20

78.3%
Bulgarian
+
21.7%
Estonian
@
2.55




</tbody>

[Ion Basescul]

Yes.


From "Serbian dna project."

Momić (Mitrovdan, Brnjeuška/Glina) - R1b>R-BY16680

No, the one I shared is a Croat (https://www.geni.com/people/Jelena-Momic-Heger/6000000088132443230). Prohic is Bosniak.
One of his works (https://www.scribd.com/document/359537870/BILTEN-161).

[Jana]

some of these individuals are insanely Slavic genetically, I'm guessing a few aren't even distant to western Ukrainians. Still amazes me some people try and act like Slavic influence in the balkans was negligible.

Yes, there is big Slavic input in SW Slavs. These are all Croats from west Herzegovina, darkest pigmented Croatian region and people there tended to have very dinaric look in the past.
That's why many called them Vlachs, even many Croats especially from Panonnian regions.

These samples are from highland villages around Mostar. I'm having correspondence with this woman who send them to me, she is really kind.

Many Croats have prejudice towards these people, Croats of Herzegovina, but so far they have been most willing to help me and share their results with me, much more than Croats from Croatia.
I'm proud my paternal line is from the same region. :)

[Pribislav]

No, the one I shared is a Croat (https://www.geni.com/people/Jelena-Momic-Heger/6000000088132443230).

OK.

Surname Momić also exist among Croatians from Istria https://actacroatica.com/surname/Momi%C4%87/

Serbs with surname Momić are mostly from Glina area as Serbian guy who is R1b https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glina,_Croatia

[Jana]

No, the one I shared is a Croat (https://www.geni.com/people/Jelena-Momic-Heger/6000000088132443230). Prohic is Bosniak.
One of his works (https://www.scribd.com/document/359537870/BILTEN-161).

Maybe her husband is Momić?
I am bit confused, is Heger her maiden name?

[Ion Basescul]

Maybe her husband is Momić?
I am bit confused, is Heger her maiden name?

No

[Jana]

Edit

[Pribislav]

Another relative


Jozić

<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
29.48


2
North_Atlantic
25.51


3
East_Med
15.53


4
West_Med
14.67


5
West_Asian
11.81


6
Red_Sea
1.13


7
Oceanian
0.67


8
Amerindian
0.58


9
South_Asian
0.33


10
East_Asian
0.3

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
3.74


2
Romanian
5.67


3
Moldavian
6.23


4
Bulgarian
7.66


5
Croatian
8.69


6
Hungarian
8.89


7
Austrian
12.59


8
East_German
14.03


9
Ukrainian_Lviv
14.98


10
South_Polish
15.49


11
Ukrainian
16.24


12
Greek_Thessaly
16.55


13
West_German
18.09


14
Polish
19.14


15
Southwest_Russian
19.16


16
Ukrainian_Belgorod
19.2


17
South_Dutch
19.78


18
North_Italian
20.09


19
French
20.22


20
Tuscan
21.05

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

78%
Romanian
+
22%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
1.8


2

67.6%
Bulgarian
+
32.4%
South_Polish
@
2.08


3

78.4%
Romanian
+
21.6%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.12


4

60.2%
South_Polish
+
39.8%
Central_Greek
@
2.13


5

80%
Romanian
+
20%
Russian_Smolensk
@
2.14


6

83.5%
Romanian
+
16.5%
Lithuanian
@
2.16


7

74.6%
Romanian
+
25.4%
South_Polish
@
2.23


8

53.8%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
46.2%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.27


9

81%
Romanian
+
19%
Belorussian
@
2.28


10

78.5%
Romanian
+
21.5%
Polish
@
2.28


11

75.7%
Romanian
+
24.3%
Ukrainian
@
2.37


12

72.3%
Bulgarian
+
27.7%
Polish
@
2.37


13

80.8%
Romanian
+
19.2%
Estonian_Polish
@
2.39


14

74.2%
Romanian
+
25.8%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
2.39


15

62%
Romanian
+
38%
Croatian
@
2.48


16

64.3%
South_Polish
+
35.7%
South_Italian
@
2.5


17

58%
Ukrainian
+
42%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.5


18

83.7%
Romanian
+
16.3%
Estonian
@
2.52


19

54.5%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
45.5%
Lithuanian
@
2.53


20

78.3%
Bulgarian
+
21.7%
Estonian
@
2.55




</tbody>


Jozić is exclusively Croatian surname. There is no Serbs with that surname.

[Jana]

Another relative


Jozić

<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
29.48


2
North_Atlantic
25.51


3
East_Med
15.53


4
West_Med
14.67


5
West_Asian
11.81


6
Red_Sea
1.13


7
Oceanian
0.67


8
Amerindian
0.58


9
South_Asian
0.33


10
East_Asian
0.3

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
3.74


2
Romanian
5.67


3
Moldavian
6.23


4
Bulgarian
7.66


5
Croatian
8.69


6
Hungarian
8.89


7
Austrian
12.59


8
East_German
14.03


9
Ukrainian_Lviv
14.98


10
South_Polish
15.49


11
Ukrainian
16.24


12
Greek_Thessaly
16.55


13
West_German
18.09


14
Polish
19.14


15
Southwest_Russian
19.16


16
Ukrainian_Belgorod
19.2


17
South_Dutch
19.78


18
North_Italian
20.09


19
French
20.22


20
Tuscan
21.05

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

78%
Romanian
+
22%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
1.8


2

67.6%
Bulgarian
+
32.4%
South_Polish
@
2.08


3

78.4%
Romanian
+
21.6%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.12


4

60.2%
South_Polish
+
39.8%
Central_Greek
@
2.13


5

80%
Romanian
+
20%
Russian_Smolensk
@
2.14


6

83.5%
Romanian
+
16.5%
Lithuanian
@
2.16


7

74.6%
Romanian
+
25.4%
South_Polish
@
2.23


8

53.8%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
+
46.2%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.27


9

81%
Romanian
+
19%
Belorussian
@
2.28


10

78.5%
Romanian
+
21.5%
Polish
@
2.28


11

75.7%
Romanian
+
24.3%
Ukrainian
@
2.37


12

72.3%
Bulgarian
+
27.7%
Polish
@
2.37


13

80.8%
Romanian
+
19.2%
Estonian_Polish
@
2.39


14

74.2%
Romanian
+
25.8%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
2.39


15

62%
Romanian
+
38%
Croatian
@
2.48


16

64.3%
South_Polish
+
35.7%
South_Italian
@
2.5


17

58%
Ukrainian
+
42%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.5


18

83.7%
Romanian
+
16.3%
Estonian
@
2.52


19

54.5%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
45.5%
Lithuanian
@
2.53


20

78.3%
Bulgarian
+
21.7%
Estonian
@
2.55




</tbody>


His surname should be Croatian.


Jozić families are Croats and they are mostly from Kosovo. According to some sources they are from Trilj or Pleternica area. In the past century, relatively most of Croatian residents bearing this family name were born in Kosovo and in Bosanian Posavina (Brcko area). In Ripci in Rama (Bosnia) every third inhabitant had the family name Jozić.

[Leto]

My relative on GEDmatch
Surname Momić

Can you show this person's Dodecad K12b components?

[Jana]

Whoops, actually Momići from Daruvar are Serbs

http://www.srbibbz.hr/index.php/home-mainmenu-1/sve-vijesti.html?start=145

They also have Serbian names like Ognjen, Dragan...

So I won't add this woman, but she is probably mixed ethnically (Heger are Slavonian Croats and Hungarians, surname most likely of German origin?)

[Ion Basescul]

Jozić is exclusively Croatian surname. There is no Serbs with that surname.

Nobody said that they are. Croat and Serb averages on GEDmatch are trash, hence the confusion.

[Jana]

Nobody said that they are. Croat and Serb averages on GEDmatch are trash, hence the confusion.

They are not averages even. Both Croatian and Serbian references are based just on 1 person!
Davidski showed how serious he is with that, don't know what was he thinking.

[Ion Basescul]

Can you show this person's Dodecad K12b components?


<tbody>
Gedrosia
2.68 Pct


Siberian
-


Northwest_African
1.63 Pct


Southeast_Asian
0.92 Pct


Atlantic_Med
25.62 Pct


North_European
41.39 Pct


South_Asian
0.56 Pct


East_African
-


Southwest_Asian
5.77 Pct


East_Asian
-


Caucasus
21.37 Pct


Sub_Saharan
-

</tbody>

[Ion Basescul]

They are not averages even. Both Croatian and Serbian references are based just on 1 person!
Davidski showed how serious he is with that, don't know what was he thinking.

We have a similar story with the Moldavian average, so that's not surprising.

[Pribislav]

Nobody said that they are. Croat and Serb averages on GEDmatch are trash, hence the confusion.

I know.
I just say, because I am familiar with Serbian and Croatian surnames. For non-Serbian and non-Croatian speakers Serbian and Croatian surnames look like same "shit" on average. There are tons which are same, but same are exclusively Serbian or Croatian.

[Ion Basescul]

I know.
I just say, because I am familiar with Serbian and Croatian surnames. For non-Serbian and non-Croatian speakers Serbian and Croatian surnames look like same "shit" on average. There are tons which are same, but same are exclusively Serbian or Croatian.

So the conclusion is that she's a Serb from Croatia? If you guys are really interested in this, then you should probably ask her.

[Jana]

So the conclusion is that she's a Serb from Croatia? If you guys are really interested in this, then you should probably ask her.

I think she is mixed. In that town is also biggest Czech minority in entire Croatia, but also Serbs were present.

[Karol Klačansky]

Yes, there is big Slavic input in SW Slavs. These are all Croats from west Herzegovina, darkest pigmented Croatian region and people there tended to have very dinaric look in the past.
That's why many called them Vlachs, even many Croats especially from Panonnian regions.

These samples are from highland villages around Mostar. I'm having correspondence with this woman who send them to me, she is really kind.

Many Croats have prejudice towards these people, Croats of Herzegovina, but so far they have been most willing to help me and share their results with me, much more than Croats from Croatia.
I'm proud my paternal line is from the same region. :)

I had a friend from Zagreb who told me in Croatia they don't think of Croatians from Bosnia as Croatian rather just as Bosnian. Kinda ridiculous if u ask me, Hungarians will die for Hungarians in Romania and Slovakia but Croatians don't even care about their own people lol.

[Jana]

I had a friend from Zagreb who told me in Croatia they don't think of Croatians from Bosnia as Croatian rather just as Bosnian. Kinda ridiculous if u ask me, Hungarians will die for Hungarians in Romania and Slovakia but Croatians don't even care about their own people lol.

That's not true, vast majority considers them Croats but there is minority of people of leftist orientation, usually from bigger city who feel threathened by them (BiH Croats are very conservative and nationalistic) so they spread stupid stereotypes.They try to show themself was urban, middle-class, European, progressive people vs barbarians from Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Funny thing is 99% of these people are of rural origins and saw cities first time in their life after 1945 when their grandpas entered cities with tanks and killed or expelled older urban population.

Important fact also: Croats are in specific position, because Croats from Croatia and BiH Croats have very different history, and culture differs as well.
Even Croats from Croatia differ very much because of fragmentation of Croatian lands in the past when they were ruled by different Empires and people were separated for centuries.

That's why Croatia is culturally more heterogenous than some much bigger European countries.
Majority of Croats lived in lands under Hungarian crown, Dalmatians and Istrians lived in lands under Venetian rule, BiH Croats lived under Ottoman rule and Croats in military frontier lived in their own militarised province under direct rule of Vienna army command which was something like American wild west in comparison with civil Croatia.

Due to all this, regional chauvinism and narrow-minded thinking is still high.

[Karol Klačansky]

That's not true, vast majority considers them Croats but there is minority of people of leftist orientation, usually from bigger city who feel threathened by them (BiH Croats are very conservative and nationalistic) so they spread stupid stereotypes.They try to show themself was urban, middle-class, European, progressive people vs barbarians from Bosnia and Herzegovina.

Funny thing is 99% of these people are of rural origins and saw cities first time in their life after 1945 when their grandpas entered cities with tanks and killed or expelled older urban population.

Important fact also: Croats are in specific position, because Croats from Croatia and BiH Croats have very different history, and culture differs as well.
Even Croats from Croatia differ very much because of fragmentation of Croatian lands in the past when they were ruled by different Empires and people were separated for centuries.

That's why Croatia is culturally more heterogenous than some much bigger European countries.
Majority of Croats lived in lands under Hungarian crown, Dalmatians and Istrians lived in lands under Venetian rule, BiH Croats lived under Ottoman rule and Croats in military frontier lived in their own militarised province under direct rule of Vienna army command which was something like American wild west in comparison with civil Croatia.

Due to all this, regional chauvinism and narrow-minded thinking is still high.

I think her mother and father were from Zagorje region, her father though was from a village of greek catholics and her last name is Kekic. were greek catholics in croatia orginally serbian?

[vbnetkhio]

Romanian guy who is R1a-M458 and who is from Serbian part of Banat claim Cuman origin for years on one Serbian forum. :lol:

he tested on myheritage if i got it right? ask him to upload to gedmatch, it would be intersting to see his k13.

[Pribislav]

I think her mother and father were from Zagorje region, her father though was from a village of greek catholics and her last name is Kekic. were greek catholics in croatia orginally serbian?

Yes.
They are former Orthodoxes who converted on Greek-Catholicism in 17th and 18th century.

Surname Kekić exist as well among Orthodox Serbs from Dalmatian hinterland, Syrmia, NW Bosnia, Gacko (East Herzegovina) etc.

[Karol Klačansky]

Yes.
They are former Orthodoxes who converted on Greek-Catholicism in 17th and 18th century.

Surname Kekić exist as well among Orthodox Serbs from Dalmatian hinterland, western Syrmia, NW Bosnia, Gacko (East Herzegovina) etc.Very interesting I'll have to tell her if I ever see her again. She was too clingy so I broke off contact with her, but shes a nice girl actually. She always said her fathers side might have been motenegrin in origin, any possibility of that?

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[Pribislav]

Very interesting I'll have to tell her if I ever see her again. She was too clingy so I broke off contact with her, but shes a nice girl actually. She always said her fathers side might have been motenegrin in origin, any possibility of that?

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It's possible.
According to some sources Kekić surname is originaly from Montenegro, and they migrated from Montenegro in other regions few centuries ago.
In Žumberak (region on the border between Croatia and Slovenia) exist village Kekići. In Žumberak majority are Greek-Catholics. They are descendants of Serbian Orthodox settlers from southeast in first half of 16th century who became Greek-Catholics in 17th and 18th century.

[Pribislav]

he tested on myheritage if i got it right? ask him to upload to gedmatch, it would be intersting to see his k13.

I will try.

He took autosomal, I don't know details.

[Karol Klačansky]

It's possible.
According to some sources Kekić surname is originaly from Montenegro, and they migrated from Montenegro in other regions few centuries ago.
In Žumberak (region on the border between Croatia and Slovenia) exist village Kekići. In Žumberak majority are Greek-Catholics. They are descendants of Serbian Orthodox settlers from southeast in first half of 16th century who became Greek-Catholics in 17th and 18th century.

yea thats the region her fathers from, shes related to the Greek Catholic Bishop from their as well. Interesting, shes not overtly nationalistic but shes still a pretty patriotic croatian, intersting that she has some serbian roots.

[Not a Cop]

Short summary:

https://sun9-24.userapi.com/c857624/v857624146/1d87ab/DuPuPPkm6qw.jpg

[Peterski]

Short summary:

https://sun9-24.userapi.com/c857624/v857624146/1d87ab/DuPuPPkm6qw.jpg

Uhm, you're just jealous that there is no "East Slavic & neighbours GEDmatch results" thread. :)

By the way, what about those Siberian Starovers that I showed you, any thoughts on them?

[Daos777]

Short summary:

https://sun9-24.userapi.com/c857624/v857624146/1d87ab/DuPuPPkm6qw.jpg

Lmao I’m wearing exactly those track pants and a wife beater. Meme accuracy = 100


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[Peterski]

I'm interested in some Kaliningrad Oblast Russians GEDmatch kits.

What is a typical Kaliningrader's result? Did Prussians assimilate them?:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq47h98d720

[Leto]

Uhm, you're just jealous that there is no "East Slavic & neighbours GEDmatch results" thread. :)
Thank God there is no trolling about us.
And you shouldn't have paid mind to that cheap trolling either.

[Peterski]

Thank God there is no trolling about us.
And you shouldn't have paid mind to that cheap trolling either.

Can't you just show us Kaliningrad (n=20) Dodecad K12b average.

[Leto]

I'm interested in some Kaliningrad Oblast Russians GEDmatch kits.

What is a typical Kaliningrader's result? Did Prussians assimilate them?:

They are just resettled Russians, Belorussians, Ukrainians from various places.

[Peterski]

They are just resettled Russians, Belorussians, Ukrainians from various places.

But after several generations of mixing with each other, they should have their own unique genetic profile.


from various places.

Is there any exact data - how many came from which region?

[Leto]

Can't you just show us Kaliningrad (n=20) Dodecad K12b average.
I don't remember seeing any to be honest. They're a very recent settlement, believe me. Just like Murmansk and Karelia.

Anyway, let's not derail the thread, it's not about Russians.

[Leto]

Can't you just show us Kaliningrad (n=20) Dodecad K12b average.
I don't remember seeing any to be honest. They're a very recent settlement, believe me. Just like Murmansk and Karelia.

Anyway, let's not derail the thread, it's not about Russians.

[Leto]

But after several generations of mixing with each other, they should have their own unique genetic profile.



Is there any exact data - how many came from which region?
Mostly Western and Central Russia plus Belarus and Ukraine. Quite pan-Russian.
Peterski, you are too obsessed with us. There's no huge regional diversity in ethnic Russians, at least given the size of the country and compared to some other countries.

[Jana]

^^^^It would be nice if you guys make Polish and Russian etc. regional K13 averages.

[Pribislav]

Montenegrin 97742

[Pribislav]

Montenegrin from Bratonožić clan (Q haplogroup) 97743

[Pribislav]

Đačić, Serb/Montenegrin from Piva tribe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piva_(tribe)

1 Baltic 28.82
2 North_Atlantic 25.61
3 West_Med 18.75
4 East_Med 17
5 West_Asian 5.08
6 Red_Sea 1.65
7 Oceanian 1.04
8 Northeast_African 0.84
9 Amerindian 0.79
10 Sub-Saharan 0.25
11 East_Asian

[Pribislav]

Đačić, Serb/Montenegrin from Piva tribe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piva_(tribe)

1 Baltic 28.82
2 North_Atlantic 25.61
3 West_Med 18.75
4 East_Med 17
5 West_Asian 5.08
6 Red_Sea 1.65
7 Oceanian 1.04
8 Northeast_African 0.84
9 Amerindian 0.79
10 Sub-Saharan 0.25
11 East_Asian

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance:
1 Serbian 5.38
2 Romanian 7.1
3 Bulgarian 8.53
4 Moldavian 9.06
5 Croatian 10.37
6 Hungarian 10.57
7 Austrian 13.39
8 East_German 14.62
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.8
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.74
11 South_Polish 17.21
12 North_Italian 17.4
13 Ukrainian 17.67
14 West_German 18.23
15 French 18.83
16 Tuscan 18.99
17 South_Dutch 19.62
18 Portuguese 20.33
19 Polish 20.55
20 Spanush_Galician 20.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.9% Tuscan + 45.1% Estonian_Polish @ 3.72
2 60% Tuscan + 40% Lithuanian @ 3.84
3 51.9% Ukrainian + 48.1% Tuscan @ 3.97
4 56.5% Ukrainian + 43.5% West_Sicilian @ 4
5 52.9% Tuscan + 47.1% Southwest_Russian @ 4.06
6 55.6% Tuscan + 44.4% Belorussian @ 4.12
7 50.3% West_Sicilian + 49.7% Estonian_Polish @ 4.13
8 55.4% West_Sicilian + 44.6% Lithuanian @ 4.19
9 52.6% Polish + 47.4% West_Sicilian @ 4.32
10 54.8% Tuscan + 45.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.26
11 66.2% Croatian + 33.8% Tuscan @ 4.31
12 70.3% Croatian + 29.7% West_Sicilian @ 4.32
13 76.9% Croatian + 23.1% Italian_Jewish @ 4.35
14 50.9% West_Sicilian + 49.1% Belorussian @ 4.38
15 76.9% Croatian + 23.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.4
16 54.8% West_Sicilian + 45.2% Estonian @ 4.55
17 57.3% South_Polish + 42.7% West_Sicilian @ 4.56
18 53.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 46.6% Tuscan @ 4.6
19 53.6% Tuscan + 46.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.63
20 52.1% Tuscan + 47.9% Polish @ 4.67

[Pribislav]

Vujanović (Montenegrin surname, and also reesult look Mtn) 97751

[Pribislav]

Petar Tintor, Serb from Dalmatia 97758

My great-grandmother was from Tintor family.

[Pribislav]

Marko Katnić (surname is from Old Montenegro) 97762

[Pribislav]

Saša Ćurčić 97763

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saša_Ćurčić

[Pribislav]

Panić, Serb from Serbia 97764

[Pribislav]

Poleksić (surname is from Piva in Old Herzegovina/Western Montenegro) 97766

[Pribislav]

Vujanović (Montenegrin surname, and also reesult look Mtn) 97751

This man is R1b btw.

[Pribislav]

Sretenović, Serb from Kraljevo (central Serbia) 97767

His y dna is E-FGC11450.

[Leto]

Vlatko Vukovic's updated oracle. He is still the best South Slav to me in terms of genetics (high Northeastern, low Wog, a bit of Asian)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.4
2 North_Atlantic 24.46
3 West_Med 15.36
4 East_Med 11.96
5 West_Asian 8.24
6 Red_Sea 2.09
7 Siberian 1.61
8 Amerindian 0.89

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.03
2 Croatian 3.83
3 Hungarian 8.25
4 Serbian 8.36
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.17
6 Ukrainian 10.34
7 South_Polish 10.47
8 Romanian 11.43
9 Austrian 12.7
10 East_German 12.82
11 Bulgarian 13.13
12 Southwest_Russian 13.46
13 Polish 13.62
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.88
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.34
16 Estonian_Polish 15.76
17 Belorussian 16.52
18 Kargopol_Russian 17.45
19 Erzya 18.85
20 Tatar 19.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.9% Ukrainian + 26.1% Central_Greek @ 1.78
2 68.1% Ukrainian + 31.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.83
3 74.7% Ukrainian + 25.3% East_Sicilian @ 1.86
4 76.5% Ukrainian + 23.5% South_Italian @ 1.89
5 56.1% Ukrainian + 43.9% Bulgarian @ 1.94
6 59.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 40.8% Bulgarian @ 2.03
7 54.7% Bulgarian + 45.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.06
8 70.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 29.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.13
9 79% Ukrainian + 21% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.2
10 61.6% Bulgarian + 38.4% Lithuanian @ 2.29
11 54% Bulgarian + 46% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.29
12 79.2% Ukrainian + 20.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.31
13 58.2% Romanian + 41.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.34
14 76.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 23.6% Central_Greek @ 2.34
15 78.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 21.1% South_Italian @ 2.36
16 79.2% Ukrainian + 20.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.39
17 81.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 18.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.4
18 81.1% Ukrainian + 18.9% Cyprian @ 2.41
19 52.6% Ukrainian + 47.4% Romanian @ 2.42
20 77.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.8% East_Sicilian @ 2.45


Distance to: VV
3.01907271 Moldova_North
3.33019519 Moldavian
4.30870050 Croatian
4.42178697 Szekely_Hungarian
5.32267790 Bosniak
5.53089505 Serb_B&H
6.10770824 Serb_Krajina
6.24895991 Serb_Croatia
7.09570293 Serb_Serbia
7.34293538 Serb_Dalmatia
7.42841841 Serb
8.08761399 Moldova_Centre
8.62135140 Romania_Moldavia_North
9.41158329 Romania_Moldavia_average
9.43913132 Hungarian
9.45903801 Serbian
9.48450315 Moldova_average
9.86540927 Serb_Shopluk
10.34146508 Romania_Moldavia_South
10.47053007 Ukrainian_Lviv

Target: VV
Distance: 2.5394% / 2.53935113 | ADC: 0.5x
69.2 Moldova_North
14.4 Moldavian
8.4 Serb_B&H
3.6 Southwest_Russian
3.0 Croatian
1.4 Erzya

Target: VV
Distance: 1.4999% / 1.49992527 | ADC: 0.25x
56.2 Serb_B&H
21.6 Croatian
12.2 Erzya
9.2 Moldova_North
0.8 Moldavian

[Jana]

Nothing special about him. I have 30-40 Croats with similar genetic profile.
And you should stop using that horiffic outdated Oracles.

Btw Bosniak Tuzla is not good, just like Romanian_Botosani (1 person)
Use these

Serb_B&H,24.73,31.02,16.87,8.63,14.66,1.72,0.44,0.32,0.66 ,0.50,0.34,0.09,0.01
Serb_Croatia,25.17,30.44,16.79,9.03,14.86,1.33,0.7 2,0.32,0.54,0.30,0.41,0.07,0.02
Serb_Krajina,25.57,30.44,16.72,8.68,14.61,1.55,0.6 5,0.36,0.60,0.31,0.45,0.04,0.02
Montenegrin,25.00,25.68,18.39,9.99,16.90,1.95,0.26 ,0.25,0.66,0.50,0.23,0.11,0.08
Serb_Serbia,24.35,29.99,16.77,9.05,15.98,1.37,0.62 ,0.21,0.64,0.44,0.39,0.07,0.13
Serb,24.89,29.38,17.14,9.05,15.58,1.55,0.49,0.29,0 .67,0.45,0.35,0.09,0.06
Serb_Shopluk,23.50,27.64,18.07,9.25,17.09,1.63,0.6 5,0.12,1.05,0.38,0.47,0.23,0.10
Serb_Dalmatia,25.49,29.53,16.66,8.89,15.69,1.15,0. 67,0.19,0.73,0.56,0.34,0.08,0.04
Romania_Moldavia_average,23.92,27.62,16.56,9.91,16 .68,1.51,0.58,0.43,1.36,0.63,0.46,0.16,0.16
Romania_Moldavia_North,23.82,28.53,15.49,10.61,16. 38,1.41,0.68,0.40,1.25,0.60,0.40,0.22,0.21
Romania_Moldavia_South,24.02,26.76,17.58,9.25,16.9 7,1.60,0.48,0.46,1.47,0.65,0.52,0.10,0.12
Moldova_average,22.51,27.80,16.89,10.65,16.33,2.30 ,0.44,0.62,1.19,0.54,0.42,0.10,0.20
Moldova_North,25.89,33.33,14.92,8.89,11.43,1.48,0. 65,0.56,1.47,0.35,0.61,0.17,0.26
Moldova_Centre,21.89,29.51,16.06,10.47,16.10,1.90, 0.53,0.83,1.14,0.81,0.48,0.08,0.20
Moldova_South,21.51,24.20,18.33,11.54,18.60,2.94,0 .29,0.49,1.11,0.42,0.29,0.10,0.18
Romanian_Oltenia,23.83,17.91,10.68,17.72,1.81,0.67 ,0.85,0.60,0.40,0.37,0.09,0.06,0.00
Romanian_Muntenia,21.74,24.52,16.95,11.73,19.26,2. 31,0.82,0.55,1,0.45,0.34,0.26,0.07
Romanian_Wallachia_average,22.68,24.86,17.47,11.15 ,18.47,2.11,0.71,0.70,0.85,0.41,0.36,0.16,0.06
Romanian_Transylvania,23.98,26.24,17.43,9.61,17.51 ,1.68,0.64,0.62,1.13,0.54,0.40,0.09,0.12
Szekely_Hungarian,26.90,32.16,14.49,7.67,11.72,1.7 7,0.94,0.66,1.07,0.90,0.45,0.13,0.17
Bosniak,25.39,31.03,15.95,8.77,14.28,1.76,0.77,0.4 ,0.52,0.48,0.32,0.07,0.18

[Leto]

Nothing special about him. I have 30-40 Croats with similar genetic profile.
And you should stop using that horiffic outdated Oracles.

I "promote" the ones who are more like us. Bulgarians with 20% East Med or some Germanic-shifted Croats are less interesting to me personally.

I use what's there on Vahaduo, you need to ask Lukasz to replace them ASAP if they're shit.

[Jana]

I "promote" the ones who are more like us. Bulgarians with 20% East Med or some Germanic-shifted Croats are less interesting to me personally.

I use what's there on Vahaduo, you need to ask Lukasz to replace them ASAP if they're shit.

He is not close to Russians in any way, he is regular dinaric Slav.
I replace bad samples manually.

[Leto]

He is not close to Russians in any way, he is regular dinaric Slav.
I replace bad samples manually.
Okay, you are in a bad mood today.

[Leto]

Vlatko Vukovic is like someone who is 3/4 East Slav and 1/4 Ashkenazi, more or less. Not a rare combo.

[Jana]

Okay, you are in a bad mood today.

Why? Just saying he is pretty typical, and btw he look Dalmatian.
You're also mistake about Germanic input, Croats have little to none.

Higher North Atlantic reflects native Illyrian ancestry, BA Croats have more NA than anything on gedmatch.
So person with higher NA simply has less Slavic and more native input.

Higher Baltic reflects higher Slavic influence.

[Leto]

Why? Just saying he is pretty typical, and btw he look Dalmatian.
You're also mistake about Germanic input, Croats have little to none.

Higher North Atlantic reflects native Illyrian ancestry, BA Croats have more NA than anything on gedmatch.
So person with higher NA simply has less Slavic and more native input.

Higher Baltic reflects higher Slavic influence.
I may not know that. P2hter is quite Western for instance.

[Jana]

I forgot to say it's typical for Balkan Vlachs, Albanians and Greeks to score more North Atlantic than Baltic, and they are less Slavic people on Balkans.
Pre-Slavic Balkanites north Euro part was more NW than NE European like.

So, not really recent influence.

[Jana]

I may not know that. P2hter is quite Western for instance.

Yeah,in his case it is also from his native part. But in NW Croatia natives were Hallstatt Celts.
So they were pretty northern to begin with (compared to Greeks for example)

[Jackson78]

My results from vahaduo K13:

https://i.imgur.com/bVNPXRi.png

https://i.imgur.com/RKv4J7E.png

[Pribislav]

Family Rondović from Žabljak in northern Montenegro (btw the highest town in Balkan 1456 m).

97869

97870

97871

[CommonSense]

I managed to find a couple of kits of apparently pure or almost pure Balkan Gypsies. There's been some talk of this lately, so I believe some of you may find this interesting:

Žilić:



Kit M126024

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 25.2
2 East_Med 16.66
3 West_Asian 15.94
4 Baltic 13.69
5 West_Med 13.51
6 North_Atlantic 9.12
7 Red_Sea 3.04
8 Siberian 1.74
9 Amerindian 0.8
10 East_Asian 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tadjik 24.42
2 Afghan_Tadjik 24.48
3 Greek_Thessaly 25.32
4 Turkmen 25.33
5 Afghan_Pashtun 25.86
6 Turkish 26.75
7 Central_Greek 26.78
8 East_Sicilian 26.97
9 Bulgarian 27.2
10 Azeri 27.26
11 Italian_Abruzzo 27.78
12 Romanian 27.83
13 Pathan 27.92
14 Ashkenazi 28.06
15 South_Italian 28.47
16 West_Sicilian 28.56
17 Iranian 29.3
18 Punjabi_Jat 29.52
19 Burusho 29.83
20 Kumyk 29.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.3% Greek_Thessaly + 37.7% Dharkar @ 3.97
2 63.1% Greek_Thessaly + 36.9% Kanjar @ 4.09
3 59.3% Greek_Thessaly + 40.7% Kshatriya @ 4.34
4 64.8% Greek_Thessaly + 35.2% Velamas @ 4.39
5 65.3% Greek_Thessaly + 34.7% North_Kannadi @ 4.52
6 65.1% Greek_Thessaly + 34.9% Kurumba @ 4.57
7 59.5% Greek_Thessaly + 40.5% Gujarati @ 4.73
8 65.3% Greek_Thessaly + 34.7% Dusadh @ 4.77
9 64.7% Greek_Thessaly + 35.3% Kol @ 4.91
10 63.9% Greek_Thessaly + 36.1% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.95
11 66.8% Greek_Thessaly + 33.2% Piramalai @ 4.96
12 57.4% Greek_Thessaly + 42.6% Brahmin_UP @ 5.4
13 59.7% Greek_Thessaly + 40.3% Bangladeshi @ 5.4
14 61.9% Central_Greek + 38.1% Kanjar @ 5.59
15 67.3% Greek_Thessaly + 32.7% Chamar @ 5.62
16 67.5% Greek_Thessaly + 32.5% Sakilli @ 5.78
17 65.4% Greek_Thessaly + 34.6% Chenchu @ 5.81
18 61.2% Central_Greek + 38.8% Dharkar @ 5.84
19 64.2% Central_Greek + 35.8% North_Kannadi @ 5.87
20 63.2% Bulgarian + 36.8% Velamas @ 5.88



Savić:



Kit UF7968887

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 25.28
2 East_Med 19.8
3 West_Asian 17.23
4 West_Med 13.03
5 North_Atlantic 9.6
6 Baltic 9.03
7 Red_Sea 3.92
8 Northeast_African 1.13
9 Oceanian 0.57
10 Siberian 0.29
11 Amerindian 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 24.43
2 Turkmen 24.45
3 Azeri 24.84
4 Afghan_Tadjik 24.93
5 Tadjik 25.07
6 Greek_Thessaly 25.57
7 East_Sicilian 25.62
8 Central_Greek 25.71
9 Afghan_Pashtun 25.93
10 Italian_Abruzzo 26.6
11 Iranian 26.61
12 South_Italian 26.68
13 Ashkenazi 26.71
14 West_Sicilian 27.31
15 Kurdish 28.16
16 Pathan 28.24
17 Syrian 28.32
18 Bulgarian 28.86
19 Sephardic_Jewish 28.9
20 Lebanese_Muslim 28.92

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.9% East_Sicilian + 37.1% Kanjar @ 2.51
2 62.8% Central_Greek + 37.2% Kanjar @ 2.58
3 58.2% Ashkenazi + 41.8% Gujarati @ 2.76
4 62% Central_Greek + 38% Dharkar @ 2.76
5 62.1% East_Sicilian + 37.9% Dharkar @ 2.77
6 59.1% East_Sicilian + 40.9% Kshatriya @ 2.82
7 64.1% Central_Greek + 35.9% Velamas @ 2.87
8 58.1% Ashkenazi + 41.9% Kshatriya @ 2.89
9 65% Central_Greek + 35% North_Kannadi @ 2.97
10 64.5% Central_Greek + 35.5% Kurumba @ 3.04
11 66.2% Central_Greek + 33.8% Piramalai @ 3.14
12 64.2% East_Sicilian + 35.8% Velamas @ 3.19
13 64.8% Central_Greek + 35.2% Dusadh @ 3.23
14 64.3% Central_Greek + 35.7% Kol @ 3.33
15 59.3% East_Sicilian + 40.7% Gujarati @ 3.41
16 63.5% Central_Greek + 36.5% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.41
17 64.6% East_Sicilian + 35.4% Kurumba @ 3.45
18 65.1% East_Sicilian + 34.9% North_Kannadi @ 3.47
19 56.4% Ashkenazi + 43.6% Brahmin_UP @ 3.57
20 59.1% Central_Greek + 40.9% Kshatriya @ 3.61



Hidanović:



Kit AH5421524

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 27.09
2 East_Med 21.26
3 West_Asian 19.43
4 West_Med 10.08
5 North_Atlantic 7.72
6 Baltic 7.29
7 Red_Sea 3.18
8 East_Asian 1.96
9 Amerindian 0.73
10 Northeast_African 0.53
11 Oceanian 0.39
12 Siberian 0.32

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmen 22.59
2 Afghan_Tadjik 23.02
3 Azeri 23.59
4 Tadjik 23.82
5 Afghan_Pashtun 23.96
6 Turkish 24.18
7 Iranian 24.73
8 Pathan 25.76
9 Kurdish 26.56
10 Punjabi_Jat 28.07
11 Burusho 28.12
12 East_Sicilian 28.35
13 Central_Greek 28.41
14 Syrian 28.51
15 Greek_Thessaly 28.87
16 Kumyk 28.92
17 Ashkenazi 29.04
18 Lebanese_Muslim 29.06
19 South_Italian 29.11
20 Iranian_Jewish 29.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.2% Cyprian + 48.8% Brahmin_UP @ 3.62
2 54.7% Ashkenazi + 45.3% Gujarati @ 3.67
3 52.3% Italian_Jewish + 47.7% Gujarati @ 3.92
4 52.8% Algerian_Jewish + 47.2% Gujarati @ 4.13
5 54.6% Ashkenazi + 45.4% Kshatriya @ 4.14
6 52.2% Italian_Jewish + 47.8% Kshatriya @ 4.28
7 52.7% Algerian_Jewish + 47.3% Kshatriya @ 4.52
8 53.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 46.8% Kshatriya @ 4.59
9 53.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 46.7% Gujarati @ 4.62
10 60.7% Central_Greek + 39.3% Velamas @ 4.66
11 51% Algerian_Jewish + 49% Brahmin_UP @ 4.7
12 50.4% Tunisian_Jewish + 49.6% Brahmin_UP @ 4.76
13 52.9% Cyprian + 47.1% Kshatriya @ 4.78
14 50.5% Italian_Jewish + 49.5% Brahmin_UP @ 4.8
15 60.1% Ashkenazi + 39.9% Velamas @ 4.81
16 52.2% Tunisian_Jewish + 47.8% Gujarati @ 4.85
17 60.7% East_Sicilian + 39.3% Velamas @ 4.98
18 52.1% Tunisian_Jewish + 47.9% Kshatriya @ 4.98
19 51.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 48.5% Brahmin_UP @ 5.08
20 54.6% South_Italian + 45.4% Kshatriya @ 5.15




Ferhatović:



Kit A673296

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 28.47
2 East_Med 16.76
3 West_Asian 16.75
4 West_Med 11.41
5 North_Atlantic 10.05
6 Baltic 9.4
7 Red_Sea 2.59
8 Oceanian 1.82
9 East_Asian 1.12
10 Siberian 1
11 Sub-Saharan 0.63

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Tadjik 24.05
2 Tadjik 24.18
3 Afghan_Pashtun 24.59
4 Turkmen 25.34
5 Pathan 25.65
6 Punjabi_Jat 26.9
7 Azeri 27.67
8 Burusho 27.75
9 Turkish 27.79
10 Greek_Thessaly 28.78
11 Iranian 29.22
12 Central_Greek 29.48
13 East_Sicilian 29.51
14 Kalash 29.77
15 Italian_Abruzzo 30.04
16 Sindhi 30.04
17 Brahmin_UP 30.46
18 Ashkenazi 30.56
19 South_Italian 30.62
20 West_Sicilian 30.79

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.3% Central_Greek + 42.7% Kanjar @ 2.35
2 59.5% Greek_Thessaly + 40.5% Velamas @ 2.6
3 56.4% Central_Greek + 43.6% Dharkar @ 2.84
4 59.8% Central_Greek + 40.2% North_Kannadi @ 2.93
5 59.9% Greek_Thessaly + 40.1% Kurumba @ 3.05
6 57.3% East_Sicilian + 42.7% Kanjar @ 3.08
7 52% Ashkenazi + 48% Kshatriya @ 3.17
8 50.1% Brahmin_UP + 49.9% Ashkenazi @ 3.23
9 58% Central_Greek + 42% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.25
10 52.9% East_Sicilian + 47.1% Kshatriya @ 3.35
11 52.3% Ashkenazi + 47.7% Gujarati @ 3.46
12 56.4% East_Sicilian + 43.6% Dharkar @ 3.52
13 52.9% Central_Greek + 47.1% Kshatriya @ 3.53
14 59% Central_Greek + 41% Kol @ 3.57
15 59.4% Central_Greek + 40.6% Kurumba @ 3.66
16 59.6% Central_Greek + 40.4% Dusadh @ 3.69
17 60.2% Greek_Thessaly + 39.8% Dusadh @ 3.7
18 57.1% Greek_Thessaly + 42.9% Dharkar @ 3.8
19 50.8% East_Sicilian + 49.2% Brahmin_UP @ 3.85
20 61.8% Greek_Thessaly + 38.2% Piramalai @ 3.87




Ciobanu:




Kit T789883

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 23.98
2 East_Med 17.97
3 West_Asian 15.32
4 Baltic 12.62
5 North_Atlantic 11.57
6 West_Med 11.32
7 Siberian 2.33
8 Red_Sea 2.29
9 Oceanian 1.46
10 Northeast_African 1.12
11 East_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tadjik 23.93
2 Greek_Thessaly 24.24
3 Turkmen 24.27
4 Afghan_Tadjik 24.32
5 Central_Greek 25.67
6 East_Sicilian 25.78
7 Turkish 25.83
8 Afghan_Pashtun 25.92
9 Bulgarian 26.17
10 Italian_Abruzzo 26.26
11 Azeri 26.37
12 Ashkenazi 26.64
13 Romanian 26.69
14 West_Sicilian 27.13
15 South_Italian 27.32
16 Iranian 28.72
17 Pathan 28.85
18 Tuscan 28.87
19 Serbian 29.06
20 Kumyk 29.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.2% Greek_Thessaly + 33.8% Velamas @ 3.88
2 64.7% Greek_Thessaly + 35.3% Kanjar @ 3.91
3 64% Greek_Thessaly + 36% Dharkar @ 3.92
4 66.5% Greek_Thessaly + 33.5% Kurumba @ 3.95
5 60.9% Greek_Thessaly + 39.1% Kshatriya @ 3.98
6 66.8% Greek_Thessaly + 33.2% North_Kannadi @ 4.24
7 56.7% Ashkenazi + 43.3% Brahmin_UP @ 4.41
8 61.2% Greek_Thessaly + 38.8% Gujarati @ 4.43
9 68.1% Greek_Thessaly + 31.9% Piramalai @ 4.44
10 66.8% Greek_Thessaly + 33.2% Dusadh @ 4.54
11 65.4% Greek_Thessaly + 34.6% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.6
12 66.2% Greek_Thessaly + 33.8% Kol @ 4.76
13 59.1% Greek_Thessaly + 40.9% Brahmin_UP @ 4.8
14 61.4% Greek_Thessaly + 38.6% Bangladeshi @ 5
15 58.7% Ashkenazi + 41.3% Kshatriya @ 5.04
16 58.9% Ashkenazi + 41.1% Gujarati @ 5.24
17 68.8% Greek_Thessaly + 31.2% Sakilli @ 5.29
18 68.7% Greek_Thessaly + 31.3% Chamar @ 5.31
19 66.8% Greek_Thessaly + 33.2% Chenchu @ 5.32
20 63.5% Central_Greek + 36.5% Kanjar @ 5.34




Ganev:



Kit QC7803717

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 25.77
2 East_Med 21.16
3 West_Asian 16.19
4 West_Med 14.46
5 North_Atlantic 10.65
6 Baltic 4.96
7 Red_Sea 4.34
8 Siberian 1.31
9 East_Asian 0.92
10 Northeast_African 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 24.48
2 Turkmen 25.06
3 East_Sicilian 25.3
4 Azeri 25.34
5 Central_Greek 25.58
6 South_Italian 25.86
7 Afghan_Tadjik 26.18
8 Greek_Thessaly 26.19
9 Italian_Abruzzo 26.21
10 Ashkenazi 26.35
11 West_Sicilian 26.59
12 Tadjik 26.73
13 Iranian 27.34
14 Sephardic_Jewish 27.53
15 Syrian 27.64
16 Afghan_Pashtun 27.99
17 Algerian_Jewish 28.01
18 Lebanese_Muslim 28.26
19 Italian_Jewish 28.76
20 Kurdish 28.79

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.9% South_Italian + 35.1% North_Kannadi @ 2.05
2 63.4% South_Italian + 36.6% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.08
3 64.4% South_Italian + 35.6% Kurumba @ 2.09
4 62.1% South_Italian + 37.9% Dharkar @ 2.11
5 64.6% South_Italian + 35.4% Dusadh @ 2.12
6 66% South_Italian + 34% Piramalai @ 2.2
7 64.2% South_Italian + 35.8% Kol @ 2.21
8 64.5% East_Sicilian + 35.5% Velamas @ 2.23
9 64% South_Italian + 36% Velamas @ 2.26
10 62.9% South_Italian + 37.1% Kanjar @ 2.27
11 64.9% East_Sicilian + 35.1% Kurumba @ 2.4
12 66.5% East_Sicilian + 33.5% Piramalai @ 2.6
13 65.1% East_Sicilian + 34.9% Dusadh @ 2.68
14 66.3% Central_Greek + 33.7% Piramalai @ 2.89
15 66.6% South_Italian + 33.4% Chamar @ 2.89
16 66.7% South_Italian + 33.3% Sakilli @ 2.91
17 55.9% Algerian_Jewish + 44.1% Brahmin_UP @ 2.92
18 57.5% Algerian_Jewish + 42.5% Kshatriya @ 2.95
19 64.5% South_Italian + 35.5% Chenchu @ 3.03
20 64.3% Central_Greek + 35.7% Velamas @ 3.04



Halilović:



Kit LE7586062

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 30.37
2 East_Med 19.67
3 West_Asian 15.53
4 West_Med 12.18
5 Baltic 8.32
6 North_Atlantic 7.73
7 Red_Sea 3.83
8 East_Asian 2.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Tadjik 26.25
2 Turkmen 26.98
3 Pathan 27.03
4 Afghan_Pashtun 27.07
5 Tadjik 27.08
6 Azeri 28.4
7 Punjabi_Jat 28.46
8 Turkish 28.5
9 Burusho 29.36
10 Iranian 29.57
11 Greek_Thessaly 30.16
12 East_Sicilian 30.2
13 Central_Greek 30.38
14 Ashkenazi 30.81
15 Sindhi 30.87
16 Brahmin_UP 30.95
17 South_Italian 31.11
18 Italian_Abruzzo 31.31
19 Kurdish 31.47
20 Syrian 31.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55% Ashkenazi + 45% Dharkar @ 3.19
2 55.9% Ashkenazi + 44.1% Kanjar @ 3.22
3 58.6% Central_Greek + 41.4% North_Kannadi @ 3.63
4 58% Ashkenazi + 42% Dusadh @ 3.65
5 57.4% Ashkenazi + 42.6% Velamas @ 3.66
6 58.8% East_Sicilian + 41.2% North_Kannadi @ 3.69
7 58.4% Central_Greek + 41.6% Dusadh @ 3.8
8 57.9% Ashkenazi + 42.1% Kurumba @ 3.87
9 57.5% Ashkenazi + 42.5% Kol @ 3.88
10 56.5% Ashkenazi + 43.5% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.95
11 58.5% East_Sicilian + 41.5% Dusadh @ 3.95
12 60.1% Central_Greek + 39.9% Piramalai @ 3.96
13 60.8% Central_Greek + 39.2% Sakilli @ 4.02
14 56.4% East_Sicilian + 43.6% Kanjar @ 4.02
15 58.2% Central_Greek + 41.8% Chenchu @ 4.09
16 57.8% Central_Greek + 42.2% Kol @ 4.1
17 58% East_Sicilian + 42% Kol @ 4.11
18 58.3% Ashkenazi + 41.7% North_Kannadi @ 4.12
19 60.7% Central_Greek + 39.3% Chamar @ 4.19
20 57% East_Sicilian + 43% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.2



Stancu:



Kit A225835

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 25.06
2 West_Asian 18.02
3 East_Med 16.44
4 Baltic 14.8
5 West_Med 12.28
6 North_Atlantic 5.66
7 Red_Sea 3.01
8 East_Asian 2.61
9 Oceanian 1.38
10 Siberian 0.44
11 Sub-Saharan 0.19
12 Northeast_African 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Tadjik 22.89
2 Tadjik 23.42
3 Turkmen 24.23
4 Afghan_Pashtun 24.29
5 Azeri 26.18
6 Turkish 26.25
7 Pathan 26.27
8 Greek_Thessaly 27.09
9 Iranian 27.84
10 Burusho 28.02
11 Central_Greek 28.24
12 Punjabi_Jat 28.35
13 Kumyk 28.51
14 East_Sicilian 28.52
15 Bulgarian 28.69
16 Nogay 29.49
17 Kurdish 29.54
18 Ashkenazi 29.55
19 Romanian 29.56
20 Italian_Abruzzo 29.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.5% Greek_Thessaly + 42.5% Bangladeshi @ 7.3
2 57.5% Greek_Thessaly + 42.5% Gujarati @ 7.36
3 57.4% Greek_Thessaly + 42.6% Kshatriya @ 7.38
4 61.6% Greek_Thessaly + 38.4% Kanjar @ 7.6
5 60.9% Greek_Thessaly + 39.1% Dharkar @ 7.66
6 63.3% Greek_Thessaly + 36.7% Velamas @ 7.73
7 56.5% Central_Greek + 43.5% Bangladeshi @ 7.82
8 56.4% Central_Greek + 43.6% Kshatriya @ 7.85
9 60.6% Central_Greek + 39.4% Kanjar @ 7.96
10 63.8% Greek_Thessaly + 36.2% Kurumba @ 8.09
11 55.3% Ashkenazi + 44.7% Gujarati @ 8.1
12 56.5% Central_Greek + 43.5% Gujarati @ 8.11
13 63.9% Greek_Thessaly + 36.1% Dusadh @ 8.12
14 64.1% Greek_Thessaly + 35.9% North_Kannadi @ 8.18
15 61.9% Bulgarian + 38.1% Velamas @ 8.19
16 55.2% Ashkenazi + 44.8% Kshatriya @ 8.23
17 59.9% Central_Greek + 40.1% Dharkar @ 8.26
18 56.2% East_Sicilian + 43.8% Kshatriya @ 8.26
19 54.5% Central_Greek + 45.5% Brahmin_UP @ 8.28
20 55.6% Greek_Thessaly + 44.4% Brahmin_UP @ 8.32



Molnar:



Kit XE8986283

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 27.35
2 East_Med 19.02
3 West_Asian 16.89
4 West_Med 13.94
5 North_Atlantic 12.73
6 Baltic 6.91
7 East_Asian 0.91
8 Red_Sea 0.67
9 Oceanian 0.61
10 Siberian 0.53
11 Amerindian 0.46

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmen 25.65
2 Tadjik 25.67
3 Afghan_Tadjik 25.69
4 Afghan_Pashtun 26.46
5 Turkish 26.62
6 Greek_Thessaly 26.97
7 Azeri 27.14
8 Central_Greek 27.22
9 East_Sicilian 27.26
10 Italian_Abruzzo 27.49
11 South_Italian 27.91
12 West_Sicilian 28.15
13 Pathan 28.28
14 Ashkenazi 28.49
15 Iranian 29.24
16 Punjabi_Jat 29.51
17 Tuscan 30.11
18 Bulgarian 30.17
19 Sephardic_Jewish 30.42
20 Burusho 30.43

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.1% Central_Greek + 37.9% Kol @ 2.97
2 60.1% South_Italian + 39.9% Kanjar @ 3.12
3 59.9% Central_Greek + 40.1% Dharkar @ 3.19
4 62.4% Central_Greek + 37.6% Kurumba @ 3.2
5 61.3% Central_Greek + 38.7% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.2
6 64.2% Central_Greek + 35.8% Piramalai @ 3.27
7 60.7% Central_Greek + 39.3% Kanjar @ 3.3
8 62.1% Central_Greek + 37.9% Velamas @ 3.3
9 61.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 38.2% Velamas @ 3.31
10 59.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 40.4% Dharkar @ 3.39
11 62.7% Central_Greek + 37.3% Dusadh @ 3.4
12 59.3% South_Italian + 40.7% Dharkar @ 3.4
13 62.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 37.3% North_Kannadi @ 3.47
14 63% Central_Greek + 37% North_Kannadi @ 3.49
15 61.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 38.1% Kol @ 3.49
16 62.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 37.5% Dusadh @ 3.51
17 64% Italian_Abruzzo + 36% Piramalai @ 3.55
18 60.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 39.5% Kanjar @ 3.55
19 62.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 37.8% Kurumba @ 3.61
20 56% West_Sicilian + 44% Kshatriya @ 3.67




Arap:



Kit T194670

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 25.19
2 East_Med 18.75
3 West_Asian 16.55
4 West_Med 13.85
5 North_Atlantic 10.85
6 Baltic 8.12
7 Red_Sea 2.37
8 Siberian 1.65
9 East_Asian 1.34
10 Northeast_African 0.58
11 Oceanian 0.52
12 Amerindian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmen 24.06
2 Afghan_Tadjik 24.32
3 Tadjik 24.59
4 Turkish 24.85
5 Greek_Thessaly 25.38
6 Azeri 25.58
7 East_Sicilian 25.65
8 Central_Greek 25.66
9 Afghan_Pashtun 26.14
10 Italian_Abruzzo 26.28
11 South_Italian 26.58
12 Ashkenazi 26.85
13 West_Sicilian 26.92
14 Iranian 27.87
15 Bulgarian 28.6
16 Pathan 28.63
17 Sephardic_Jewish 29.05
18 Tuscan 29.17
19 Kurdish 29.2
20 Romanian 29.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.9% Central_Greek + 38.1% Dharkar @ 1.52
2 62.8% Central_Greek + 37.2% Kanjar @ 1.86
3 64.9% Central_Greek + 35.1% North_Kannadi @ 1.97
4 63.3% Central_Greek + 36.7% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.03
5 64.2% Central_Greek + 35.8% Kol @ 2.14
6 64.5% Central_Greek + 35.5% Kurumba @ 2.23
7 62% East_Sicilian + 38% Dharkar @ 2.24
8 64.7% Central_Greek + 35.3% Dusadh @ 2.39
9 62.8% East_Sicilian + 37.2% Kanjar @ 2.4
10 64.1% Central_Greek + 35.9% Velamas @ 2.54
11 66.1% Central_Greek + 33.9% Piramalai @ 2.6
12 64.6% Central_Greek + 35.4% Chenchu @ 2.96
13 59.1% East_Sicilian + 40.9% Kshatriya @ 3
14 62% South_Italian + 38% Kanjar @ 3.08
15 63.4% East_Sicilian + 36.6% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.09
16 66.7% Central_Greek + 33.3% Chamar @ 3.14
17 65% East_Sicilian + 35% North_Kannadi @ 3.15
18 64.2% East_Sicilian + 35.8% Kol @ 3.2
19 64.6% East_Sicilian + 35.4% Kurumba @ 3.23
20 66.8% Central_Greek + 33.2% Sakilli @ 3.25



Yanova:



Kit A348403

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 26.95
2 West_Asian 17.4
3 East_Med 15.36
4 West_Med 11.95
5 North_Atlantic 11.4
6 Baltic 9.74
7 East_Asian 2.52
8 Red_Sea 2.22
9 Northeast_African 1.31
10 Amerindian 0.61
11 Siberian 0.52

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tadjik 22.97
2 Afghan_Tadjik 23.12
3 Afghan_Pashtun 23.96
4 Turkmen 24.53
5 Pathan 25.83
6 Punjabi_Jat 26.99
7 Turkish 27.2
8 Azeri 27.26
9 Burusho 27.51
10 Greek_Thessaly 27.62
11 Central_Greek 28.55
12 East_Sicilian 28.63
13 Italian_Abruzzo 28.9
14 Iranian 29.25
15 Kalash 29.42
16 Bulgarian 29.71
17 West_Sicilian 29.81
18 South_Italian 29.82
19 Ashkenazi 29.98
20 Romanian 30.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.2% East_Sicilian + 47.8% Brahmin_UP @ 3.19
2 61.2% Greek_Thessaly + 38.8% Velamas @ 3.23
3 52.2% Central_Greek + 47.8% Brahmin_UP @ 3.43
4 54.4% Central_Greek + 45.6% Kshatriya @ 3.46
5 58.8% Central_Greek + 41.2% Kanjar @ 3.47
6 54.4% East_Sicilian + 45.6% Kshatriya @ 3.5
7 61.6% Greek_Thessaly + 38.4% Kurumba @ 3.5
8 58.8% Greek_Thessaly + 41.2% Dharkar @ 3.51
9 55.3% Greek_Thessaly + 44.7% Kshatriya @ 3.53
10 55.4% Greek_Thessaly + 44.6% Bangladeshi @ 3.57
11 54.6% Central_Greek + 45.4% Bangladeshi @ 3.58
12 57.9% Central_Greek + 42.1% Dharkar @ 3.69
13 55.4% Greek_Thessaly + 44.6% Gujarati @ 3.76
14 53.4% West_Sicilian + 46.6% Kshatriya @ 3.79
15 59.6% Greek_Thessaly + 40.4% Kanjar @ 3.86
16 51% Ashkenazi + 49% Brahmin_UP @ 3.88
17 53.5% West_Sicilian + 46.5% Gujarati @ 3.96
18 58.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 41.5% Kanjar @ 4.04
19 54.5% East_Sicilian + 45.5% Gujarati @ 4.07
20 51.1% West_Sicilian + 48.9% Brahmin_UP @ 4.08

[Leto]

I managed to find a couple of kits of apparently pure or almost pure Balkan Gypsies. There's been some talk of this lately, so I believe some of you may find this interesting:

Fantastic post, thank you!
But HarappaWorld is better for Gypsies 'cause it has a Romani reference (Romanian-b). I'm just too lazy at the moment to run 'em all through HW. But great stuff anyway :thumb001:

They all are between 25 and 30% South_Asian which is completely in line with what we knew previously.

[CommonSense]

Fantastic post, thank you!
But HarappaWorld is better for Gypsies 'cause it has a Romani reference (Romanian-b). I'm just too lazy at the moment to run 'em all through HW. But great stuff anyway :thumb001:

They all are between 25 and 30% South_Asian which is completely in line with what we knew previously.

It'd be more interesting to compare them with other populations in vahaduo, but that's ever more grueling work. Considering what they score, I think it's best to model them as Chamar + Bulgarian/Macedonian + Armenian.

[Leto]

It'd be more interesting to compare them with other populations in vahaduo, but that's ever more grueling work. Considering what they score, I think it's best to model them as Chamar + Bulgarian/Macedonian + Armenian.
Yeah and that must be the reason why they're so dark. Imagine someone who is a mix of South Indian, Armenian and Bulgarian in equal proportions. Chances are that person is going to be much darker than any European.

[CommonSense]

Fantastic post, thank you!
But HarappaWorld is better for Gypsies 'cause it has a Romani reference (Romanian-b). I'm just too lazy at the moment to run 'em all through HW. But great stuff anyway :thumb001:

They all are between 25 and 30% South_Asian which is completely in line with what we knew previously.

Okay, so I actually went and calculated the average for every single one of their components - all 11 samples I posted here were used. This is what I got:

Romani_Gypsy,9.73,9.53,12.55,16.84,18.44,2.86,26.4 3,1.28,0.92,0.27,0.61,0.45,0.09

Modelling this through vahaduo using the populations I previously mentioned actually gets you a very low distance! Keep in mind this Indian group is the lowest caste of them all:

https://i.imgur.com/1CGtiZE.png

[Leto]

Very cool. They seem to be only ca. 1/3 South Indian as previously suggested.

[Leto]

I've run them through HarappaWorld, will probably do an nMonte model as well later


Population
S-Indian 20.31 Pct
Baloch 15.03 Pct
Caucasian 22.02 Pct
NE-Euro 17.96 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian 1.15 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan -
American 0.60 Pct
Beringian 0.62 Pct
Mediterranean 16.30 Pct
SW-Asian 6.02 Pct
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -

1 romanian-b (behar) 6.36

- - -

Population
S-Indian 20.99 Pct
Baloch 14.64 Pct
Caucasian 27.05 Pct
NE-Euro 13.33 Pct
SE-Asian 0.53 Pct
Siberian 0.51 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan 0.68 Pct
American 0.18 Pct
Beringian -
Mediterranean 14.66 Pct
SW-Asian 7.15 Pct
San -
E-African 0.28 Pct
Pygmy -
W-African -

1 romanian-b (behar) 1.79

- - -

Population
S-Indian 21.73 Pct
Baloch 17.45 Pct
Caucasian 25.87 Pct
NE-Euro 11.43 Pct
SE-Asian 1.06 Pct
Siberian -
NE-Asian 1.33 Pct
Papuan 0.43 Pct
American 1.00 Pct
Beringian -
Mediterranean 11.50 Pct
SW-Asian 7.87 Pct
San -
E-African 0.32 Pct
Pygmy -
W-African -

1 romanian-b (behar) 5.43

- - -

Population
S-Indian 23.45 Pct
Baloch 17.33 Pct
Caucasian 21.71 Pct
NE-Euro 13.49 Pct
SE-Asian 1.55 Pct
Siberian 1.14 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan 1.39 Pct
American 0.07 Pct
Beringian -
Mediterranean 13.46 Pct
SW-Asian 5.94 Pct
San 0.14 Pct
E-African -
Pygmy 0.32 Pct
W-African -

1 romanian-b (behar) 5.98

- - -

Population
S-Indian 20.19 Pct
Baloch 13.54 Pct
Caucasian 25.08 Pct
NE-Euro 18.15 Pct
SE-Asian 0.75 Pct
Siberian 0.87 Pct
NE-Asian 0.09 Pct
Papuan 1.27 Pct
American 0.26 Pct
Beringian 0.14 Pct
Mediterranean 13.58 Pct
SW-Asian 6.08 Pct
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -

1 romanian-b (behar) 4.4

- - -

Population
S-Indian 19.60 Pct
Baloch 15.60 Pct
Caucasian 25.48 Pct
NE-Euro 13.14 Pct
SE-Asian 1.50 Pct
Siberian 1.81 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan -
American -
Beringian 0.07 Pct
Mediterranean 14.42 Pct
SW-Asian 8.38 Pct
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -

1 romanian-b (behar) 3.69

- - -

Population
S-Indian 23.97 Pct
Baloch 15.95 Pct
Caucasian 23.62 Pct
NE-Euro 12.75 Pct
SE-Asian 1.19 Pct
Siberian -
NE-Asian 0.69 Pct
Papuan -
American 0.26 Pct
Beringian 0.33 Pct
Mediterranean 12.60 Pct
SW-Asian 8.62 Pct
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -

1 romanian-b (behar) 4.85

- - -

Population
S-Indian 21.23 Pct
Baloch 14.69 Pct
Caucasian 26.19 Pct
NE-Euro 16.02 Pct
SE-Asian 0.82 Pct
Siberian 0.84 Pct
NE-Asian 0.69 Pct
Papuan 1.32 Pct
American -
Beringian 0.15 Pct
Mediterranean 11.96 Pct
SW-Asian 5.79 Pct
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African 0.30 Pct

1 romanian-b (behar) 3.43

- - -

Population
S-Indian 21.17 Pct
Baloch 16.99 Pct
Caucasian 24.18 Pct
NE-Euro 14.55 Pct
SE-Asian 1.32 Pct
Siberian -
NE-Asian -
Papuan 0.37 Pct
American -
Beringian 0.75 Pct
Mediterranean 14.82 Pct
SW-Asian 5.86 Pct
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -

1 romanian-b (behar) 4.15

- - -

Population
S-Indian 20.30 Pct
Baloch 15.84 Pct
Caucasian 23.68 Pct
NE-Euro 14.48 Pct
SE-Asian 0.91 Pct
Siberian 1.11 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan 0.47 Pct
American 0.18 Pct
Beringian 0.77 Pct
Mediterranean 15.30 Pct
SW-Asian 6.97 Pct
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -

1 romanian-b (behar) 3.85

- - -

Population
S-Indian 21.62 Pct
Baloch 15.77 Pct
Caucasian 23.54 Pct
NE-Euro 15.91 Pct
SE-Asian 1.74 Pct
Siberian 0.90 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan -
American 0.94 Pct
Beringian -
Mediterranean 12.59 Pct
SW-Asian 6.44 Pct
San -
E-African -
Pygmy 0.55 Pct
W-African -

1 romanian-b (behar) 4.46


Balkan_Gypsy,21.32,15.71,24.40,14.66,1.03,0.76,0.2 5,0.54,0.32,0.26,13.74,6.83,0,0.05,0.08,0.03

[Jana]

Highly likely I found results of this Serb from Montenegro. Y-dna E-V13, mtdna N1b1

https://www.google.hr/search?q=bojan+pavi%C4%8Devi%C4%87&hl=hr&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOvMKc9IXpAhXoQhUIHRVgAu0Q_AUoAXoECBIQA w&biw=1536&bih=745

CC7447161

1 Baltic 26.81
2 North_Atlantic 22.78
3 West_Med 19.04
4 East_Med 18.03
5 West_Asian 10.86
6 Oceanian 1.27
7 Red_Sea 0.7
8 Sub-Saharan 0.24
9 Amerindian 0.23
10 South_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

1 Romanian 3.8
2 Bulgarian 3.88
3 Serbian 5.81
4 Moldavian 9.95
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.27
6 Croatian 12.74
7 Hungarian 13.36
8 Austrian 16.23
9 North_Italian 17.01
10 Tuscan 17.36
11 East_German 17.81
12 Italian_Abruzzo 18.84
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.18
14 Central_Greek 19.19
15 South_Polish 19.98
16 West_Sicilian 20.12
17 Ukrainian 20.32
18 West_German 20.52
19 East_Sicilian 20.56
20 French 20.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 80.5% Bulgarian + 19.5% Croatian @ 2.43
2 87.1% Bulgarian + 12.9% Ukrainian @ 2.49
3 76.7% Bulgarian + 23.3% Moldavian @ 2.55
4 88.9% Bulgarian + 11.1% Polish @ 2.55
5 87.2% Bulgarian + 12.8% South_Polish @ 2.56
6 86.7% Bulgarian + 13.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.57
7 91.5% Bulgarian + 8.5% Lithuanian @ 2.63
8 90.1% Bulgarian + 9.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.66
9 91.5% Bulgarian + 8.5% Estonian @ 2.67
10 90% Bulgarian + 10% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.67
11 90.5% Bulgarian + 9.5% Belorussian @ 2.71
12 89.6% Bulgarian + 10.4% Southwest_Russian @ 2.78
13 89.8% Bulgarian + 10.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.82
14 87.1% Bulgarian + 12.9% East_German @ 2.86
15 91.6% Bulgarian + 8.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.88
16 91.4% Bulgarian + 8.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.89
17 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Finnish @ 2.91
18 92.6% Bulgarian + 7.4% East_Finnish @ 2.95
19 83.9% Bulgarian + 16.1% Hungarian @ 2.97
20 51% Greek_Thessaly + 49% Croatian @ 3.05

[Leto]

Highly likely I found results of this Serb from Montenegro. Y-dna E-V13, mtdna N1b1

https://www.google.hr/search?q=bojan+pavi%C4%8Devi%C4%87&hl=hr&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOvMKc9IXpAhXoQhUIHRVgAu0Q_AUoAXoECBIQA w&biw=1536&bih=745

CC7447161

1 Baltic 26.81
2 North_Atlantic 22.78
3 West_Med 19.04
4 East_Med 18.03
5 West_Asian 10.86
6 Oceanian 1.27
7 Red_Sea 0.7
8 Sub-Saharan 0.24
9 Amerindian 0.23
10 South_Asian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

1 Romanian 3.8
2 Bulgarian 3.88
3 Serbian 5.81
4 Moldavian 9.95
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.27
6 Croatian 12.74
7 Hungarian 13.36
8 Austrian 16.23
9 North_Italian 17.01
10 Tuscan 17.36
11 East_German 17.81
12 Italian_Abruzzo 18.84
13 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.18
14 Central_Greek 19.19
15 South_Polish 19.98
16 West_Sicilian 20.12
17 Ukrainian 20.32
18 West_German 20.52
19 East_Sicilian 20.56
20 French 20.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 80.5% Bulgarian + 19.5% Croatian @ 2.43
2 87.1% Bulgarian + 12.9% Ukrainian @ 2.49
3 76.7% Bulgarian + 23.3% Moldavian @ 2.55
4 88.9% Bulgarian + 11.1% Polish @ 2.55
5 87.2% Bulgarian + 12.8% South_Polish @ 2.56
6 86.7% Bulgarian + 13.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.57
7 91.5% Bulgarian + 8.5% Lithuanian @ 2.63
8 90.1% Bulgarian + 9.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.66
9 91.5% Bulgarian + 8.5% Estonian @ 2.67
10 90% Bulgarian + 10% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.67
11 90.5% Bulgarian + 9.5% Belorussian @ 2.71
12 89.6% Bulgarian + 10.4% Southwest_Russian @ 2.78
13 89.8% Bulgarian + 10.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.82
14 87.1% Bulgarian + 12.9% East_German @ 2.86
15 91.6% Bulgarian + 8.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.88
16 91.4% Bulgarian + 8.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.89
17 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Finnish @ 2.91
18 92.6% Bulgarian + 7.4% East_Finnish @ 2.95
19 83.9% Bulgarian + 16.1% Hungarian @ 2.97
20 51% Greek_Thessaly + 49% Croatian @ 3.05
So this is what the guy supposedly looks like?
https://fss.rs/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/0mmm4095.jpg

On Dodecad he is like a Romanian

# Population Percent
1 North_European 34.29
2 Caucasus 27.81
3 Atlantic_Med 26.92
4 Southwest_Asian 4.6
5 Gedrosia 4.21
6 Northwest_African 1.84
7 Sub_Saharan 0.26
8 East_Asian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 3.92
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 4.36
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 4.56

[CommonSense]

So this is what the guy supposedly looks like?
https://fss.rs/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/0mmm4095.jpg

On Dodecad he is like a Romanian

# Population Percent
1 North_European 34.29
2 Caucasus 27.81
3 Atlantic_Med 26.92
4 Southwest_Asian 4.6
5 Gedrosia 4.21
6 Northwest_African 1.84
7 Sub_Saharan 0.26
8 East_Asian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 3.92
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 4.36
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 4.56

That's almost certainly not the man to whom these results belong to. I looked up the email and it's some guy living in Stara Pazova, Srem.

[Leto]

That's almost certainly not the man to whom these results belong to. I looked up the email and it's some guy living in Stara Pazova, Srem.
That's a bummer. Oh well.
Let's hope the guy in the photo would score similarly ;)

[Pribislav]

Serb from Western Bosnia, surname Buvač 98059

Serbs from Western Bosnia which carry this surname have two haplogroups, I2-A1328 (Omarska, Prijedor) and G-Y128028 (Ribnik).

[Leto]

Serb from Western Bosnia, surname Buvač 98059

Serbs from Western Bosnia which carry this surname have two haplogroups, I2-A1328 (Omarska, Prijedor) and G-Y128028 (Ribnik).
He is relatively Northern

Population
Gedrosia 3.70 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 26.10 Pct
North_European 41.55 Pct
South_Asian 1.51 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.57 Pct
East_Asian 1.47 Pct
Caucasus 22.10 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Buvač
3.43067049 Bosnian
4.31885401 Croat
8.95099994 Romanians
9.29249159 Hungarians
9.59385220 Pomak
9.66657126 Macedonian
11.22481180 Bulgarian
11.48855082 Bulgarians
13.30116160 Gagauz
14.73842258 Turk_Romania

Target: Buvač
Distance: 2.3648% / 2.36479389 | ADC: 0.5x
82.2 Bosnian
17.8 Romanians

Target: Buvač
Distance: 1.6649% / 1.66492552 | ADC: 0.25x
63.2 Croat
27.6 Romanians
7.6 Bosnian
0.8 Ukranians
0.6 Japanese
0.2 Pulliyar

No Serbian reference on Dodecad Vahaduo.

[Pribislav]

He is relatively Northern

Population
Gedrosia 3.70 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 26.10 Pct
North_European 41.55 Pct
South_Asian 1.51 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.57 Pct
East_Asian 1.47 Pct
Caucasus 22.10 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Buvač
3.43067049 Bosnian
4.31885401 Croat
8.95099994 Romanians
9.29249159 Hungarians
9.59385220 Pomak
9.66657126 Macedonian
11.22481180 Bulgarian
11.48855082 Bulgarians
13.30116160 Gagauz
14.73842258 Turk_Romania

Target: Buvač
Distance: 2.3648% / 2.36479389 | ADC: 0.5x
82.2 Bosnian
17.8 Romanians

Target: Buvač
Distance: 1.6649% / 1.66492552 | ADC: 0.25x
63.2 Croat
27.6 Romanians
7.6 Bosnian
0.8 Ukranians
0.6 Japanese
0.2 Pulliyar

No Serbian reference on Dodecad Vahaduo.

Buvač is like ezyeez (her Serbian ancestors are from Dalmatia and Lika) https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?313828-Serbian-Autosomal-DNA&p=6640582&viewfull=1#post6640582

He is also like Tojaga (Serb from Lika) 98061

[Pribislav]

Serbian woman with surname Bodiroga (surname is from Trebinje area in East Herzegovina) 98062

[Pribislav]

Serbian woman with surname Bodiroga (surname is from Trebinje area in East Herzegovina) 98062

Opinion of one guy from other forum about this result is that Vlach katuns of Herzegovina are related with her result.

[CommonSense]

Okay, so I actually went and calculated the average for every single one of their components - all 11 samples I posted here were used. This is what I got:

Romani_Gypsy,9.73,9.53,12.55,16.84,18.44,2.86,26.4 3,1.28,0.92,0.27,0.61,0.45,0.09

Modelling this through vahaduo using the populations I previously mentioned actually gets you a very low distance! Keep in mind this Indian group is the lowest caste of them all:

https://i.imgur.com/1CGtiZE.png

Using a native Anatolian population (Cappadocian Greeks) instead of Armenians gives me an even better fit:

https://i.ibb.co/gWwykNP/image.png

[Leto]

Using a native Anatolian population (Cappadocian Greeks) instead of Armenians gives me an even better fit:

https://i.ibb.co/gWwykNP/image.png
On Harappa the distance is a bigger

Target: Balkan_Gypsy
Distance: 3.1821% / 3.18205375
34.6 romanian-a
33.4 chamar
32.0 cypriot

[CommonSense]

On Harappa the distance is a bigger

Target: Balkan_Gypsy
Distance: 3.1821% / 3.18205375
34.6 romanian-a
33.4 chamar
32.0 cypriot

It's because harappaworld lacks many referrence populations. Cypriot isn't a good fit for them, and doesn't make sense from a historical perspective either, and Bulgaro-Macedonian would be better than Romanian too.

[CommonSense]

That being said, using Bulgarian, Chamar and Armenian (the most Mediterranean shifted of the three samples) gives a decent fit in HarappaWorld too:

https://i.ibb.co/KLrDHF6/image.png


Pretty sure we've cracked the 'mystery' of their origins.

[Leto]

It's because harappaworld lacks many referrence populations. Cypriot isn't a good fit for them, and doesn't make sense from a historical perspective either, and Bulgaro-Macedonian would be better than Romanian too.
Cypriots are similar to Pontics but I actually think the West Asian part of the Gypsies may be rather Kurdish/Persian-like than Armenian. Also (Southern) Romanians and Bulgarians are very similar genetically. Anyway, it's already clear that Gypsies can be reasonably modeled as ~⅓ South Indian (Chamars are genetically South Indian even though they live in Northern India), ~⅓ Balkan/Southeastern Euro (probably Albanian/Mainland Greek) and ~⅓ West Asian. I would like to hear Davidski's thoughts on the GQ (Gypsy Question).

[CommonSense]

Cypriots are similar to Pontics but I actually think the West Asian part of the Gypsies may be rather Kurdish/Persian-like than Armenian.

Not really, dude. Cypriots are Levant-like while Pontics are close to Caucasians. Just compare the population averages for K13:

Cyprian,5.67,2.81,19.86,20.34,41.08,8.12,0.50,0.07 ,0.23,0.00,0.47,0.30,0.54

Greek_Trabzon,3.03,2.61,15.35,37.05,36.21,3.91,0.9 5,0.22,0.3,0.04,0.3,0,0.3

Quite an evident difference if you asked me. Now let's look at (west) Armenians and Cappadocians which I previously used as one of the population models for Gypsies:

Greek_Cappadocian,6.83,3.81,18.16,27.6,36.59,4.92, 0.94,0.03,0.64,0.03,0.4,0,0

Armenian_West,2.91,1.84,12.8,36.23,36.53,6.22,2.55 ,0.25,0.09,0.09,0.34,0.25,0.27

Armenians are evidently pretty close to Pontics, while Cappadocians are somewhat intermediate.

Kurds and Persians on the other hand have far too little West Med, but also high Red Sea and South Asian of their own. In fact they're the poorest fit of the bunch by far.

[CommonSense]

Krašovec, Slovene

Gedcom included with kit:



Kit T215292

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.03
2 North_Atlantic 30.32
3 West_Med 16.14
4 East_Med 7.51
5 West_Asian 6.89
6 South_Asian 1.38
7 Red_Sea 1.36
8 Siberian 0.49
9 Sub-Saharan 0.45
10 Oceanian 0.3
11 Northeast_African 0.06
12 Amerindian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.87
2 Hungarian 5.4
3 Moldavian 6.58
4 East_German 6.87
5 Austrian 7.73
6 South_Polish 7.89
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.96
8 Ukrainian 9.09
9 Serbian 10.47
10 Polish 11.22
11 Southwest_Russian 13.69
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.03
13 Russian_Smolensk 14.19
14 Romanian 14.54
15 Estonian_Polish 14.77
16 Belorussian 15.33
17 Southwest_Finnish 15.64
18 West_German 15.85
19 North_Swedish 16.25
20 South_Dutch 16.82

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 21.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.58
2 77.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.6
3 65.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 34.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.63
4 76% Ukrainian_Lviv + 24% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.65
5 78% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.72
6 66.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.79
7 67% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.86
8 74.7% Ukrainian + 25.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.86
9 79.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 20.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.88
10 77.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.88
11 77.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.8% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.88
12 64.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 35.1% Southwest_French @ 1.9
13 68.9% Polish + 31.1% North_Italian @ 1.92
14 66.3% Croatian + 33.7% East_German @ 1.92
15 76.1% Ukrainian + 23.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.94
16 68.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 31.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.94
17 76.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 23.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.97
18 77.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.97
19 75.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 24.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.98
20 76.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 23.9% Portuguese @ 1.99

[Leto]

Krašovec, Slovene

Gedcom included with kit:



Kit T215292

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.03
2 North_Atlantic 30.32
3 West_Med 16.14
4 East_Med 7.51
5 West_Asian 6.89
6 South_Asian 1.38
7 Red_Sea 1.36
8 Siberian 0.49
9 Sub-Saharan 0.45
10 Oceanian 0.3
11 Northeast_African 0.06
12 Amerindian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.87
2 Hungarian 5.4
3 Moldavian 6.58
4 East_German 6.87
5 Austrian 7.73
6 South_Polish 7.89
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.96
8 Ukrainian 9.09
9 Serbian 10.47
10 Polish 11.22
11 Southwest_Russian 13.69
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.03
13 Russian_Smolensk 14.19
14 Romanian 14.54
15 Estonian_Polish 14.77
16 Belorussian 15.33
17 Southwest_Finnish 15.64
18 West_German 15.85
19 North_Swedish 16.25
20 South_Dutch 16.82

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 21.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.58
2 77.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.6
3 65.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 34.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.63
4 76% Ukrainian_Lviv + 24% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.65
5 78% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.72
6 66.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.79
7 67% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.86
8 74.7% Ukrainian + 25.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.86
9 79.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 20.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.88
10 77.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.88
11 77.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.8% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.88
12 64.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 35.1% Southwest_French @ 1.9
13 68.9% Polish + 31.1% North_Italian @ 1.92
14 66.3% Croatian + 33.7% East_German @ 1.92
15 76.1% Ukrainian + 23.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.94
16 68.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 31.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.94
17 76.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 23.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.97
18 77.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.97
19 75.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 24.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.98
20 76.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 23.9% Portuguese @ 1.99


Distance to: Krašovec
3.02618083 Slovenian
4.04617820 Slovak
4.50152196 Croat_Zagreb
4.80848209 Hungarian_East
5.51224092 Czech
5.78927457 Hungarian
6.46442573 Bosniak_Tuzla
6.55235835 Szekely_Hungarian
6.73939166 Moldova_North
7.76499195 Croat_Herzegovina

Target: Krašovec
Distance: 2.6603% / 2.66034324 | ADC: 1x
80.8 Slovenian
19.2 Slovak

Target: Krašovec
Distance: 2.3458% / 2.34584954 | ADC: 0.5x
79.4 Slovenian
8.0 German_east
7.0 Slovak
5.6 Ukrainian_Lviv

Target: Krašovec
Distance: 1.5228% / 1.52275518 | ADC: 0.25x
65.6 Slovenian
26.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
4.0 French_Basque
3.6 East_German

[CommonSense]

Distance to: Krašovec
3.02618083 Slovenian
4.04617820 Slovak
4.50152196 Croat_Zagreb
4.80848209 Hungarian_East
5.51224092 Czech
5.78927457 Hungarian
6.46442573 Bosniak_Tuzla
6.55235835 Szekely_Hungarian
6.73939166 Moldova_North
7.76499195 Croat_Herzegovina

Target: Krašovec
Distance: 2.6603% / 2.66034324 | ADC: 1x
80.8 Slovenian
19.2 Slovak

Target: Krašovec
Distance: 2.3458% / 2.34584954 | ADC: 0.5x
79.4 Slovenian
8.0 German_east
7.0 Slovak
5.6 Ukrainian_Lviv

Target: Krašovec
Distance: 1.5228% / 1.52275518 | ADC: 0.25x
65.6 Slovenian
26.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
4.0 French_Basque
3.6 East_German

Nice, so it seems she's close to those few samples that were used to make that average. Try it with this one too, she has similar results:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?320262-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-gedmatch-results-vol-2&p=6631482&highlight=slovene#post6631482

[Leto]

Nice, so it seems she's close to those few samples that were used to make that average. Try it with this one too, she has similar results:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?320262-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-gedmatch-results-vol-2&p=6631482&highlight=slovene#post6631482
Distance to: Ledinek
3.40497322 Slovak
3.75040937 Slovenian
3.79597155 Hungarian_East
4.04059402 Croat_Zagreb
4.61767257 Bosniak_Tuzla
4.68943493 Hungarian
5.09471295 Czech
5.91226691 Szekely_Hungarian
6.30774920 Moldova_North
6.70002985 Croat_Herzegovina

Target: Ledinek
Distance: 2.3996% / 2.39959715 | ADC: 1x
55.8 Slovak
31.4 Croat_Zagreb
12.8 Hungarian_East

Target: Ledinek
Distance: 1.9049% / 1.90492300 | ADC: 0.5x
36.6 Slovak
29.8 Hungarian_East
28.2 Bosniak_Tuzla
4.8 Hungarian
0.6 Kalash

Target: Ledinek
Distance: 1.3182% / 1.31819272 | ADC: 0.25x
43.2 Bosniak_Tuzla
38.2 Czech
11.6 Hungarian_East
4.2 Hungarian_Transdanubia
1.4 Punjabi_Jat
0.8 Tabassaran
0.6 Slovak

[Alenka]

Nice, so it seems she's close to those few samples that were used to make that average.

Any regional info about the reference for Slovenian? Are they academic samples?

[CommonSense]

Any regional info about the reference for Slovenian? Are they academic samples?

There wasn't any Slovenian sample in the original K13 spreadsheet. What this one is based on I don't know, but it was added after vahaduo was established. Lukasz is in charge of that, so you should ask him for more info.

[Leto]

Any regional info about the reference for Slovenian? Are they academic samples?
The ones that were posted here last year were academic, yes. Just Slovenian, no further info. I think the country is small, so they don't need Serbo-Croatian wars for averages :cool:

[Alenka]

The ones that were posted here last years were academic, yes. Just Slovenian, no further info. I think the country is small, so they don't need Serbo-Croatian wars for averages :cool:
Slovenia is more diverse dialectaly even than some much bigger countries, maybe it also is genetically. We don't know that.
Anyways, I ask because the reference seems a bit more southern shifted than these two samples. Maybe it's a regional thing?
If reference is academic, I hope it's better than the Moldovan academic sample, in terms of how representative it is.
xD

[Leto]

Slovenia is more diverse dialectaly even than some much bigger countries, maybe it also is genetically. We don't know that.
Anyways, I ask because the reference seems a bit more southern shifted than these two samples. Maybe it's a regional thing?
If reference is academic, I hope it's better than the Moldovan academic sample, in terms of how representative it is.
xD
Maybe they took the samples in the capital area. I have no idea. Doesn't Slovenia have Serbo-Croatian-speaking minorities? What is the estimated minority population in Slovenia now?

[Alenka]

Maybe they took the samples in the capital area. I have no idea. Doesn't Slovenia have Serbo-Croatian-speaking minorities? What is the estimated minority population in Slovenia now?
It probably got a bit higher since then, but according to the latest census (from back in 2002), it was 17% for the country as a whole. The capital had close to 27%, while rural areas are a bit more local in comparison.

But in any case, it's also possible for the local population of some regions to be more south shifted, it may not necessarily be immigrants or their descendants. Hence why I inquired about the regional info.

[Leto]

It probably got a bit higher since then, but according to the latest census (from back in 2002), it was 17% for the country as a whole. The capital had close to 27%, while rural areas are a bit more local in comparison.

But in any case, it's also possible for the local population of some regions to be more south shifted, it may not necessarily be immigrants or their descendants. Hence why I inquired about the regional info.
Yes, I understand. I think in the first volume of this thread I posted all the samples that would later make up that average. They ranged from 29 to 40% Baltic, something like that. The average is 33% B and 30% NA.

[Leto]

Croatian or Slovenian? Žokalj

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.24
2 North_Atlantic 30.34
3 West_Med 13.05
4 West_Asian 10.24
5 East_Med 10.14
6 Amerindian 1.32
7 South_Asian 0.63
8 Red_Sea 0.61
9 Siberian 0.53
10 Oceanian 0.48
11 East_Asian 0.36

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 3.22
2 Croatian 5.14
3 Moldavian 5.78
4 Austrian 7.37
5 Serbian 7.83
6 East_German 7.97
7 South_Polish 10.11
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.36
9 Ukrainian 11.64
10 Romanian 11.68
11 Polish 13.84
12 Bulgarian 14.3
13 West_German 14.58
14 Southwest_Russian 15.24
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.29
16 South_Dutch 16.09
17 Russian_Smolensk 16.48
18 North_German 16.5
19 North_Swedish 17.11
20 Estonian_Polish 17.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94% Hungarian + 6% Chechen @ 1.97
2 94.6% Hungarian + 5.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.03
3 94.2% Hungarian + 5.8% Kabardin @ 2.03
4 94.5% Hungarian + 5.5% Adygei @ 2.04
5 94.2% Hungarian + 5.8% Lezgin @ 2.06
6 94.5% Hungarian + 5.5% Balkar @ 2.09
7 94.1% Hungarian + 5.9% Tabassaran @ 2.1
8 75.3% Moldavian + 24.7% North_German @ 2.12
9 69% Hungarian + 31% Moldavian @ 2.14
10 95.6% Hungarian + 4.4% Abhkasian @ 2.14
11 94.2% Hungarian + 5.8% Kumyk @ 2.15
12 95.4% Hungarian + 4.6% Georgian @ 2.17
13 95% Hungarian + 5% Ossetian @ 2.18
14 78.3% Moldavian + 21.7% Danish @ 2.25
15 78.6% Moldavian + 21.4% North_Dutch @ 2.28
16 79.2% Moldavian + 20.8% Norwegian @ 2.31
17 96.6% Hungarian + 3.4% Balochi @ 2.46
18 96.6% Hungarian + 3.4% Brahui @ 2.47
19 80.7% Moldavian + 19.3% Irish @ 2.49
20 96.6% Hungarian + 3.4% Makrani @ 2.52


# Population Percent
1 Baltic 21.05
2 Atlantic 19.86
3 North_Sea 17.65
4 Eastern_Euro 14.99
5 West_Med 8.59
6 East_Med 8.41
7 West_Asian 7.69
8 Amerindian 0.97
9 Oceanian 0.4
10 Southeast_Asian 0.14
11 Red_Sea 0.13
12 South_Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.84
2 Austrian 5.28
3 Moldavian 6.3
4 Hungarian 6.75
5 Serbian 7.86
6 South_Polish 9.22
7 Romanian 10.08
8 East_German 10.08
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.11
10 Ukrainian 10.67
11 Polish 11.33
12 Russian_Smolensk 11.7
13 Bulgarian 12.28
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.52
15 Southwest_Russian 12.9
16 Belorussian 14.18
17 Estonian_Polish 14.26
18 Southwest_Finnish 14.88
19 Finnish 16.01
20 Kargopol_Russian 16.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.3% Polish + 30.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.9
2 63.9% Croatian + 36.1% Austrian @ 2.93
3 63.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.9% North_Italian @ 3.03
4 60.9% Serbian + 39.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.05
5 66.5% Russian_Smolensk + 33.5% Tuscan @ 3.06
6 52.2% Polish + 47.8% Bulgarian @ 3.1
7 53.2% Romanian + 46.8% Polish @ 3.13
8 62.4% Southwest_Russian + 37.6% North_Italian @ 3.17
9 65.4% Polish + 34.6% Greek @ 3.28
10 56.5% Austrian + 43.5% Moldavian @ 3.28
11 92.9% Croatian + 7.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.34
12 79.5% Croatian + 20.5% Serbian @ 3.37
13 93.5% Croatian + 6.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.38
14 68.8% Russian_Smolensk + 31.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.41
15 54.1% Romanian + 45.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.41
16 96.3% Croatian + 3.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.41
17 95.6% Croatian + 4.4% Azeri @ 3.41
18 95.3% Croatian + 4.7% Turkish @ 3.41
19 70.8% Polish + 29.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.41
20 64.3% Southwest_Russian + 35.7% Tuscan @ 3.41


Population
Gedrosia 5.73 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.40 Pct
Atlantic_Med 27.41 Pct
North_European 45.53 Pct
South_Asian 0.27 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.43 Pct
East_Asian 0.58 Pct
Caucasus 16.65 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Žokalj
3.75747255 Hungarians
3.97349972 Croat
5.37288563 Bosnian
9.52190107 German
13.96697533 Rus_Smolensk
14.96756159 Rus_Kostroma
15.49764498 Macedonian
15.84114895 Pomak
16.12186714 Romanians
16.14752613 Mixed_Germanic

Target: Žokalj
Distance: 2.5380% / 2.53798023 | ADC: 1x
54.8 Hungarians
45.2 Croat

Target: Žokalj
Distance: 1.9955% / 1.99545643 | ADC: 0.5x
50.0 Croat
40.6 Hungarians
9.2 German
0.2 Dai

Target: Žokalj
Distance: 1.1555% / 1.15546557 | ADC: 0.25x
40.8 Hungarians
40.2 Croat
16.2 German
1.8 Dargin
1.0 CDX30

[Mingle]

Bulgarian
½ Sofia/Montana, ½ Pleven/Smolyan

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.41
2 North_Atlantic 24.32
3 East_Med 21.65
4 West_Med 14.23
5 West_Asian 9.76
6 Red_Sea 2.25
7 Northeast_African 0.52
8 Siberian 0.52
9 East_Asian 0.26
10 Sub-Saharan 0.07
11 Oceanian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.67
2 Bulgarian 5.15
3 Serbian 5.99
4 Moldavian 11.69
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.32
6 Hungarian 13.21
7 Croatian 13.92
8 Austrian 16.49
9 Tuscan 17.4
10 North_Italian 17.99
11 Italian_Abruzzo 18.24
12 East_German 18.33
13 Central_Greek 18.98
14 West_Sicilian 19.74
15 East_Sicilian 20.04
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 20.07
17 West_German 20.35
18 South_Polish 20.38
19 Ashkenazi 20.49
20 Ukrainian 21.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.1% South_Polish + 49.9% Ashkenazi @ 2.52
2 57.7% South_Polish + 42.3% Italian_Jewish @ 2.71
3 57.9% South_Polish + 42.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.15
4 53.4% South_Italian + 46.6% Belorussian @ 3.2
5 88.3% Serbian + 11.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.2
6 54% Ashkenazi + 46% Polish @ 3.26
7 53.6% Polish + 46.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.32
8 51.1% Belorussian + 48.9% Italian_Jewish @ 3.38
9 60.5% South_Polish + 39.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.42
10 51.8% Russian_Smolensk + 48.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.42
11 53.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.44
12 56.8% Ukrainian + 43.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.47
13 60% Croatian + 40% Ashkenazi @ 3.53
14 54% Southwest_Russian + 46% Italian_Jewish @ 3.53
15 89.2% Serbian + 10.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.57
16 59.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 40.6% Belorussian @ 3.58
17 51.3% Belorussian + 48.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.61
18 58.5% Central_Greek + 41.5% Belorussian @ 3.63
19 57% Ukrainian + 43% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.63
20 50.8% Ashkenazi + 49.2% Ukrainian @ 3.64



Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 37.45
2 Atlantic_Med 25.31
3 Caucasus 22.65
4 Southwest_Asian 7.19
5 Gedrosia 5.3
6 Northwest_African 2.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 6.33
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.64
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.65
4 Hungarians (Behar) 12.54
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17.15
6 German (Dodecad) 17.67
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.54
8 Greek (Dodecad) 20.98
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.53
10 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 21.55
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 22.04
12 French (Dodecad) 22.27
13 C_Italian (Dodecad) 22.35
14 French (HGDP) 22.52
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.58
16 Dutch (Dodecad) 23.06
17 Kent (1000Genomes) 25.05
18 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 25.23
19 English (Dodecad) 25.41
20 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 25.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 27.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.02
2 78.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.3% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.27
3 76.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 23.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.33
4 76.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 23.2% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.4
5 68.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 31.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.5
6 68.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 31.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.5
7 73.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 26.5% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.67
8 50.7% Polish (Dodecad) + 49.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.77
9 64.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 35.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.82
10 60% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 40% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.87
11 68.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 31.2% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.94
12 62.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 37.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.94
13 58.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 41.7% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.95
14 80.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 19.7% Samaritians (Behar) @ 3
15 50.6% Polish (Dodecad) + 49.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.01
16 79.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 20.3% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.05
17 64.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 35.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.06
18 64.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 35.2% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.12
19 78.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 21.7% Jordanians (Behar) @ 3.12
20 70.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 29.3% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 3.13

[Roke Koke]

My paternal ancestors are from Gorski kotar and Knin, maternal from Zagorje and Slavonia.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.66
2 North_Atlantic 29.99
3 West_Med 17.06
4 East_Med 11.14
5 West_Asian 8.76
6 Amerindian 1.13
7 East_Asian 0.71
8 Red_Sea 0.23
9 Northeast_African 0.17
10 Siberian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.96
2 Serbian 6.17
3 Croatian 6.29
4 Moldavian 6.32
5 Austrian 7.52
6 East_German 8.5
7 Romanian 9.88
8 South_Polish 12.46
9 Bulgarian 12.46
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.55
11 Ukrainian 13.59
12 West_German 14.06
13 South_Dutch 15.41
14 Polish 16.09
15 French 16.72
16 North_German 17.53
17 Southwest_Russian 17.79
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.02
19 Russian_Smolensk 18.92
20 North_Swedish 19.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:



# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.8% Croatian + 19.2% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.41
2 78.7% Croatian + 21.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.49
3 80% Croatian + 20% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.49
4 80.3% Croatian + 19.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.57
5 52.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 47.3% North_Italian @ 2.6
6 77.6% Croatian + 22.4% North_Italian @ 2.62
7 80.9% Croatian + 19.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.63
8 59.9% Ukrainian + 40.1% North_Italian @ 2.69
9 82.4% Croatian + 17.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.71
10 80% Croatian + 20% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.73
11 60.2% East_German + 39.8% Bulgarian @ 2.76
12 62% South_Polish + 38% North_Italian @ 2.77
13 78.9% Croatian + 21.1% Portuguese @ 2.79
14 79.8% Croatian + 20.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.8
15 74.5% Moldavian + 25.5% French @ 2.88
16 80.8% Croatian + 19.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.9
17 61.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 38.1% North_Italian @ 2.97
18 71.2% Moldavian + 28.8% West_German @ 3.04
19 73.2% Moldavian + 26.8% South_Dutch @ 3.06
20 79.2% Croatian + 20.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.07

[Jana]

My paternal ancestors are from Gorski kotar and Knin, maternal from Zagorje and Slavonia.

Welcome to the forum. Could you describe your exact ancestry in bit more detail?

[Roke Koke]

Welcome to the forum. Could you describe your exact ancestry in bit more detail?

Thank you. My father's side of the family comes from Bosiljevo on his paternal side (Croats), and from Kistanje and Livno on his mother's side (Serbs).

On my mother's side, her father's roots are in Donji Miholjac (paternal - Croats), while his mother descends from Swabians. My mother's maternal roots are in Bedekovčina (Croats) and Brežice (Slovenes).

[Jana]

Thank you. My father's side of the family comes from Bosiljevo on his paternal side (Croats), and from Kistanje and Livno on his mother's side (Serbs). I should actually specify that it is the region around Knin, and not Knin itself (to my knowledge), that's a mistake.

On my mother's side, her father's roots are in Donji Miholjac (paternal - Croats), while his mother descends from Swabians. My mother's maternal roots are in Bedekovčina (Croats) and Brežice (Slovenes).

Thanks! So you are 50% Croat, 25% Serb, 12.5% German, and 12.5% Slovenian :) ?

[Roke Koke]

Thanks! So you are 50% Croat, 25% Serb, 12.5% German, and 12.5% Slovenian :) ?

Yes, I believe that is correct!

[Jana]

Yes, I believe that is correct!

Here is how you score on updated K13, closest to nation wide Croatian average (distance is not as tight as it would be for unmixed person tho, but still fairly close)
Full Croats from gorski kotar are your second closest population.

Distance to: RokeKoke

4.04736952 Croat_Croatia
4.08727293 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
4.11681680 Hungarian_Transylvania
4.16634132 Croat
4.19167949 Hungarian
4.30592114 Hungarian_Budapest
4.45904838 Hungarian_Alfold
4.48077947 Slovenian
4.48120306 Hungarian_Transdanubia
4.67508289 Croat_Croatia_Central
4.79108925 Hungarian_Szekely
4.79509124 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
4.91586208 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
4.97701718 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
5.06068177 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
5.07063112 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.32121227 Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
5.41354782 Croat_B&H
5.42215824 Serb_B&H
5.77625311 Moldova_North
6.00902654 Bosniak
6.09777008 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
6.16831419 Croat_Croatia_Istria&Kvarner
6.25035249 Hungarian_Csango
6.25554154 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija

[Ion Basescul]

Had to scroll to page 3 to find this thread.

I found a Serb family from Central Serbia
3/4 Sumadija District, 1/4 Moravica District


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
28.83


2
North_Atlantic
24.57


3
West_Med
19.59


4
East_Med
14.75


5
West_Asian
8.12


6
Red_Sea
1.65


7
Siberian
1.35


8
Amerindian
0.73


9
Oceanian
0.41

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
4.68


2
Romanian
6.01


3
Moldavian
7.25


4
Bulgarian
7.68


5
Croatian
9.5


6
Hungarian
10.35


7
Austrian
13.25


8
East_German
14.47


9
Greek_Thessaly
15.68


10
Ukrainian_Lviv
15.93


11
South_Polish
16.79


12
Ukrainian
17.07


13
North_Italian
17.74


14
West_German
18.49


15
French
19.24


16
Tuscan
19.4


17
South_Dutch
19.8


18
Polish
20.21


19
Southwest_Russian
20.69


20
Portuguese
21.04

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

85.3%
Moldavian
+
14.7%
Sardinian
@
2.72


2

74.5%
Moldavian
+
25.5%
Tuscan
@
3.09


3

72.9%
Moldavian
+
27.1%
North_Italian
@
3.22


4

57.7%
Ukrainian
+
42.3%
West_Sicilian
@
3.24


5

71.9%
Croatian
+
28.1%
West_Sicilian
@
3.26


6

63.2%
Croatian
+
36.8%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.27


7

75.1%
Croatian
+
24.9%
South_Italian
@
3.44


8

68.3%
Croatian
+
31.7%
Tuscan
@
3.46


9

53.3%
Ukrainian
+
46.7%
Tuscan
@
3.49


10

52.2%
Greek_Thessaly
+
47.8%
Ukrainian
@
3.6


11

71.9%
Croatian
+
28.1%
Central_Greek
@
3.63


12

59.5%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
40.5%
West_Sicilian
@
3.65


13

78.4%
Moldavian
+
21.6%
West_Sicilian
@
3.65


14

56.5%
Bulgarian
+
43.5%
Croatian
@
3.65


15

78.4%
Croatian
+
21.6%
Algerian_Jewish
@
3.65


16

73%
Croatian
+
27%
East_Sicilian
@
3.7


17

55.1%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
44.9%
Tuscan
@
3.74


18

65%
Romanian
+
35%
Croatian
@
3.74


19

61.6%
Ukrainian
+
38.4%
South_Italian
@
3.77


20

51.7%
Tuscan
+
48.3%
Southwest_Russian
@
3.8



</tbody>


Sumadija District


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
29.35


2
North_Atlantic
23.7


3
West_Med
20.09


4
East_Med
15.4


5
West_Asian
9.84


6
Siberian
0.56


7
East_Asian
0.51


8
Red_Sea
0.24


9
Amerindian
0.18


10
Oceanian
0.13

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
5.63


2
Romanian
6.05


3
Bulgarian
7.14


4
Moldavian
7.64


5
Croatian
10.09


6
Hungarian
11.46


7
Austrian
14.4


8
Greek_Thessaly
15.44


9
East_German
15.58


10
Ukrainian_Lviv
16.49


11
South_Polish
17.31


12
Ukrainian
17.48


13
North_Italian
18.36


14
West_German
19.69


15
Tuscan
19.77


16
French
20.55


17
Polish
20.76


18
Southwest_Russian
20.99


19
South_Dutch
21.06


20
Ukrainian_Belgorod
21.25

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

60.5%
Bulgarian
+
39.5%
Croatian
@
3.66


2

85.4%
Moldavian
+
14.6%
Sardinian
@
3.74


3

73.8%
Bulgarian
+
26.2%
Ukrainian
@
3.76


4

61.6%
Croatian
+
38.4%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.87


5

52.3%
Bulgarian
+
47.7%
Moldavian
@
3.91


6

53.3%
Greek_Thessaly
+
46.7%
Ukrainian
@
3.97


7

73%
Bulgarian
+
27%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
3.99


8

77.5%
Bulgarian
+
22.5%
Polish
@
4.01


9

74.1%
Bulgarian
+
25.9%
South_Polish
@
4.02


10

70.5%
Croatian
+
29.5%
Central_Greek
@
4.06


11

74.1%
Croatian
+
25.9%
South_Italian
@
4.07


12

60.8%
Ukrainian
+
39.2%
South_Italian
@
4.12


13

69.9%
Moldavian
+
30.1%
Greek_Thessaly
@
4.14


14

75.2%
Moldavian
+
24.8%
Tuscan
@
4.19


15

56.5%
Ukrainian
+
43.5%
Central_Greek
@
4.23


16

59.6%
Romanian
+
40.4%
Moldavian
@
4.24


17

82.8%
Bulgarian
+
17.2%
Estonian
@
4.25


18

80%
Bulgarian
+
20%
Estonian_Polish
@
4.26


19

83%
Bulgarian
+
17%
Lithuanian
@
4.26


20

68.1%
Romanian
+
31.9%
Croatian
@
4.27



</tbody>

1/2 Sumadija, 1/2 Moravica


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
29.12


2
North_Atlantic
24.28


3
West_Med
17.3


4
East_Med
15.45


5
West_Asian
9.15


6
South_Asian
2.15


7
Red_Sea
1.34


8
Siberian
1.06


9
Amerindian
0.16

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
3.85


2
Romanian
5.3


3
Moldavian
6.41


4
Bulgarian
7.18


5
Croatian
9


6
Hungarian
9.81


7
Austrian
13.24


8
East_German
14.46


9
Ukrainian_Lviv
15.44


10
Greek_Thessaly
15.57


11
South_Polish
16.19


12
Ukrainian
16.6


13
West_German
18.69


14
North_Italian
18.77


15
Polish
19.75


16
Southwest_Russian
19.87


17
French
19.95


18
Tuscan
19.99


19
South_Dutch
20.13


20
Ukrainian_Belgorod
20.19

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

63.7%
Croatian
+
36.3%
Greek_Thessaly
@
1.88


2

51.6%
Greek_Thessaly
+
48.4%
Ukrainian
@
1.89


3

51%
Greek_Thessaly
+
49%
South_Polish
@
1.94


4

62%
Ukrainian
+
38%
South_Italian
@
2.06


5

75.5%
Croatian
+
24.5%
South_Italian
@
2.18


6

56%
Greek_Thessaly
+
44%
Polish
@
2.26


7

56.1%
Bulgarian
+
43.9%
Croatian
@
2.26


8

77.5%
Romanian
+
22.5%
Ukrainian
@
2.29


9

50.2%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
49.8%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.31


10

72.2%
Croatian
+
27.8%
Central_Greek
@
2.32


11

58.5%
Ukrainian
+
41.5%
West_Sicilian
@
2.33


12

64.7%
Romanian
+
35.3%
Croatian
@
2.37


13

82.3%
Romanian
+
17.7%
Estonian_Polish
@
2.4


14

55.7%
Romanian
+
44.3%
Moldavian
@
2.41


15

73.3%
Croatian
+
26.7%
East_Sicilian
@
2.42


16

72.2%
Moldavian
+
27.8%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.46


17

76.5%
Romanian
+
23.5%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
2.48


18

85.3%
Romanian
+
14.7%
Lithuanian
@
2.48


19

57.9%
Ukrainian
+
42.1%
Central_Greek
@
2.49


20

70.9%
Bulgarian
+
29.1%
Ukrainian
@
2.5



</tbody>

[CommonSense]

Had to scroll to page 3 to find this thread.

I found a Serb family from Central Serbia
3/4 Sumadija District, 1/4 Moravica District


I already posted them:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?320262-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-gedmatch-results-vol-2&p=6631354&viewfull=1#post6631354

But I made a mistake it seems, they are mother and daughter, not sisters.

[Chris596]

Can I post my results if I'm genetically very South-Slavic? (seriously lol)

[Alenka]

Can I post my results if I'm genetically very South-Slavic? (seriously lol)
The thread is called 'South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results'.
You're Hungarian, thus a neighbour to South Slavs.
Your results are welcome indeed.
:)

[Ion Basescul]

Croats from Lika


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
31.02


2
North_Atlantic
24.43


3
West_Med
17.68


4
East_Med
11.11


5
West_Asian
9.54


6
Red_Sea
3.13


7
South_Asian
2.37


8
Amerindian
0.62


9
Siberian
0.06


10
Oceanian
0.05

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Moldavian
4.19


2
Serbian
6.24


3
Croatian
6.53


4
Romanian
8.67


5
Hungarian
8.89


6
Bulgarian
10.61


7
Austrian
12.09


8
Ukrainian_Lviv
12.64


9
East_German
12.8


10
South_Polish
13.92


11
Ukrainian
14.14


12
Polish
17.08


13
Southwest_Russian
17.75


14
Ukrainian_Belgorod
17.88


15
West_German
18.58


16
Greek_Thessaly
18.76


17
Russian_Smolensk
19.16


18
Estonian_Polish
19.79


19
South_Dutch
19.83


20
French
20.29

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

92.6%
Moldavian
+
7.4%
Sardinian
@
2.46


2

86.8%
Moldavian
+
13.2%
North_Italian
@
2.75


3

88.1%
Moldavian
+
11.9%
Tuscan
@
2.86


4

89.1%
Moldavian
+
10.9%
Spanish_Extremadura
@
2.94


5

88.6%
Moldavian
+
11.4%
Spanish_Galicia
@
2.99


6

90.1%
Moldavian
+
9.9%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
3.01


7

90.1%
Moldavian
+
9.9%
West_Sicilian
@
3.06


8

90.3%
Moldavian
+
9.7%
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
@
3.06


9

76.3%
Croatian
+
23.7%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.09


10

89.1%
Moldavian
+
10.9%
Portuguese
@
3.1


11

81.6%
Croatian
+
18.4%
Central_Greek
@
3.11


12

82.3%
Croatian
+
17.7%
East_Sicilian
@
3.12


13

83.9%
Croatian
+
16.1%
South_Italian
@
3.12


14

86.9%
Moldavian
+
13.1%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.13


15

90.2%
Moldavian
+
9.8%
Spanish_Valencia
@
3.13


16

90.4%
Moldavian
+
9.6%
Spanish_Cantabria
@
3.15


17

90.3%
Moldavian
+
9.7%
Spanish_Murcia
@
3.16


18

91.4%
Moldavian
+
8.6%
Spanish_Aragon
@
3.17


19

90%
Moldavian
+
10%
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
@
3.17


20

91.6%
Moldavian
+
8.4%
South_Italian
@
3.19



</tbody>

Zaluznika village


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
31.22


2
North_Atlantic
22.21


3
West_Med
17.61


4
East_Med
13.65


5
West_Asian
8.14


6
Red_Sea
4.06


7
Amerindian
1.43


8
South_Asian
1.36


9
Northeast_African
0.32

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Moldavian
5.7


2
Serbian
6.58


3
Croatian
8.08


4
Romanian
8.13


5
Bulgarian
9.4


6
Hungarian
10.77


7
Ukrainian_Lviv
13.94


8
Austrian
14.43


9
East_German
15.21


10
Ukrainian
15.31


11
South_Polish
15.44


12
Greek_Thessaly
17.33


13
Polish
18.37


14
Southwest_Russian
18.44


15
Ukrainian_Belgorod
18.75


16
Russian_Smolensk
20.15


17
Estonian_Polish
20.57


18
West_German
20.68


19
North_Italian
21.09


20
Belorussian
21.41

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

55.6%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
44.4%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.07


2

71.1%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
28.9%
Algerian_Jewish
@
3.21


3

65.1%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
34.9%
East_Sicilian
@
3.33


4

81.9%
Croatian
+
18.1%
Algerian_Jewish
@
3.36


5

53.2%
Ukrainian
+
46.8%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.37


6

53.9%
Greek_Thessaly
+
46.1%
Russian_Smolensk
@
3.42


7

85.8%
Croatian
+
14.2%
Samaritan
@
3.42


8

62.8%
Ukrainian
+
37.2%
East_Sicilian
@
3.42


9

59.9%
Greek_Thessaly
+
40.1%
Lithuanian
@
3.43


10

54.4%
Greek_Thessaly
+
45.6%
Estonian_Polish
@
3.45


11

51.5%
Greek_Thessaly
+
48.5%
Polish
@
3.47


12

67.9%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
32.1%
South_Italian
@
3.5


13

70%
Croatian
+
30%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.5


14

84.2%
Croatian
+
15.8%
Cyprian
@
3.52


15

89.7%
Moldavian
+
10.3%
Moroccan
@
3.56


16

64.2%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
35.8%
Central_Greek
@
3.56


17

77.7%
Croatian
+
22.3%
East_Sicilian
@
3.57


18

88.2%
Moldavian
+
11.8%
Algerian_Jewish
@
3.57


19

83.6%
Croatian
+
16.4%
Libyan_Jewish
@
3.61


20

89.6%
Moldavian
+
10.4%
Tunisian
@
3.64



</tbody>

Zaluznika village


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
30.76


2
North_Atlantic
22.43


3
East_Med
19.58


4
West_Med
18.57


5
West_Asian
4.52


6
Red_Sea
2.07


7
Siberian
1.05


8
East_Asian
0.79


9
South_Asian
0.11


10
Oceanian
0.09


11
Amerindian
0.02

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
7.81


2
Romanian
8.48


3
Bulgarian
8.81


4
Moldavian
10.2


5
Croatian
11.8


6
Hungarian
13.24


7
Greek_Thessaly
15.67


8
Austrian
16.71


9
Ukrainian_Lviv
17.52


10
East_German
17.72


11
Ukrainian
18.23


12
South_Polish
18.25


13
North_Italian
19.76


14
Tuscan
20.36


15
Southwest_Russian
21.14


16
Polish
21.44


17
Ukrainian_Belgorod
21.84


18
West_German
22.03


19
French
22.57


20
Italian_Abruzzo
22.83

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

63.5%
Ukrainian
+
36.5%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.79


2

57.5%
Estonian_Polish
+
42.5%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.99


3

63.7%
Ukrainian
+
36.3%
Italian_Jewish
@
5.01


4

57.3%
Ukrainian
+
42.7%
Ashkenazi
@
5.06


5

57.7%
Estonian_Polish
+
42.3%
Italian_Jewish
@
5.19


6

56.8%
Belorussian
+
43.2%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.26


7

60.4%
Greek_Thessaly
+
39.6%
Estonian_Polish
@
5.28


8

52.3%
Lithuanian
+
47.7%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.29


9

61.1%
Greek_Thessaly
+
38.9%
Belorussian
@
5.37


10

59.5%
Polish
+
40.5%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.48


11

52.5%
Lithuanian
+
47.5%
Italian_Jewish
@
5.5


12

50.1%
Estonian_Polish
+
49.9%
West_Sicilian
@
5.5


13

51%
Estonian_Polish
+
49%
Ashkenazi
@
5.52


14

65.4%
Greek_Thessaly
+
34.6%
Lithuanian
@
5.53


15

57.6%
Russian_Smolensk
+
42.4%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.59


16

52.6%
Estonian
+
47.4%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.6


17

63.7%
South_Polish
+
36.3%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.64


18

53%
Polish
+
47%
Ashkenazi
@
5.66


19

54.3%
Greek_Thessaly
+
45.7%
Ukrainian
@
5.66


20

57%
Belorussian
+
43%
Italian_Jewish
@
5.7



</tbody>

Gornje Vrhovine village



<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
27.03


2
North_Atlantic
25.01


3
West_Med
18.53


4
East_Med
15.06


5
West_Asian
11.57


6
Oceanian
1.02


7
Red_Sea
0.91


8
South_Asian
0.56


9
Sub-Saharan
0.31

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
4.13


2
Romanian
4.18


3
Bulgarian
6.05


4
Moldavian
8.1


5
Croatian
10.77


6
Hungarian
10.91


7
Austrian
13.45


8
Greek_Thessaly
14.4


9
East_German
15.05


10
North_Italian
17.04


11
Ukrainian_Lviv
17.32


12
South_Polish
17.99


13
West_German
18


14
Tuscan
18.33


15
Ukrainian
18.6


16
French
18.92


17
South_Dutch
19.53


18
Italian_Abruzzo
20.23


19
Portuguese
20.92


20
Central_Greek
21.18

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

73.3%
Bulgarian
+
26.7%
East_German
@
2.74


2

70.5%
Moldavian
+
29.5%
Tuscan
@
2.83


3

71.2%
Romanian
+
28.8%
Moldavian
@
2.84


4

77.3%
Romanian
+
22.7%
Croatian
@
2.87


5

65.9%
Croatian
+
34.1%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.97


6

72.7%
Moldavian
+
27.3%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
3.01


7

71%
Croatian
+
29%
South_Italian
@
3.03


8

85.6%
Romanian
+
14.4%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
3.03


9

86.5%
Romanian
+
13.5%
Ukrainian
@
3.04


10

67%
Croatian
+
33%
Central_Greek
@
3.05


11

71.5%
Bulgarian
+
28.5%
Austrian
@
3.05


12

66.5%
Bulgarian
+
33.5%
Croatian
@
3.09


13

86.3%
Romanian
+
13.7%
South_Polish
@
3.09


14

88.4%
Romanian
+
11.6%
Polish
@
3.09


15

74.2%
Moldavian
+
25.8%
West_Sicilian
@
3.13


16

89.8%
Romanian
+
10.2%
Russian_Smolensk
@
3.21


17

91.6%
Romanian
+
8.4%
Lithuanian
@
3.21


18

59.2%
Bulgarian
+
40.8%
Moldavian
@
3.24


19

67.1%
Bulgarian
+
32.9%
Hungarian
@
3.26


20

90.3%
Romanian
+
9.7%
Estonian_Polish
@
3.28



</tbody>

Gornje Vrhovine village


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
30.45


2
North_Atlantic
29.46


3
East_Med
16.89


4
West_Med
15.42


5
West_Asian
5.99


6
Siberian
1.17


7
Oceanian
0.49


8
Amerindian
0.14

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
5.27


2
Hungarian
7.04


3
Moldavian
8.49


4
Romanian
8.73


5
Croatian
8.77


6
Austrian
10.29


7
Bulgarian
10.95


8
East_German
11.55


9
South_Polish
14.36


10
Ukrainian_Lviv
14.79


11
Ukrainian
15.51


12
West_German
15.67


13
South_Dutch
17.17


14
French
17.78


15
Polish
18.13


16
Greek_Thessaly
18.79


17
Southwest_Russian
18.9


18
North_Italian
19.35


19
Ukrainian_Belgorod
19.53


20
North_German
19.65

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

50.4%
Belorussian
+
49.6%
Tuscan
@
3.55


2

60.3%
South_Polish
+
39.7%
Tuscan
@
3.92


3

54.9%
Tuscan
+
45.1%
Lithuanian
@
3.98


4

50.7%
Estonian_Polish
+
49.3%
Tuscan
@
3.98


5

53.6%
Tuscan
+
46.4%
Estonian
@
4.11


6

53.2%
Southwest_Russian
+
46.8%
Tuscan
@
4.18


7

64.7%
South_Polish
+
35.3%
West_Sicilian
@
4.21


8

87.1%
Serbian
+
12.9%
Southwest_Finnish
@
4.25


9

51%
Estonian
+
49%
West_Sicilian
@
4.26


10

50.6%
Southwest_Russian
+
49.4%
North_Italian
@
4.27


11

53.4%
Greek_Thessaly
+
46.6%
Southwest_Finnish
@
4.3


12

58.4%
Ukrainian
+
41.6%
Tuscan
@
4.32


13

89%
Serbian
+
11%
Estonian
@
4.34


14

83.1%
Hungarian
+
16.9%
Ashkenazi
@
4.34


15

71.3%
South_Polish
+
28.7%
Italian_Jewish
@
4.36


16

65.4%
Serbian
+
34.6%
Hungarian
@
4.38


17

89.1%
Serbian
+
10.9%
Finnish
@
4.39


18

51%
Russian_Smolensk
+
49%
Tuscan
@
4.4


19

67.6%
Bulgarian
+
32.4%
Southwest_Finnish
@
4.4


20

87.7%
Serbian
+
12.3%
Belorussian
@
4.41



</tbody>

Gornje Vrhovine village


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
29.88


2
North_Atlantic
22.23


3
East_Med
18.32


4
West_Med
16.94


5
West_Asian
10.11


6
Siberian
1.41


7
Red_Sea
0.57


8
Amerindian
0.38


9
Oceanian
0.17

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Romanian
5.5


2
Serbian
5.84


3
Bulgarian
5.95


4
Moldavian
8.13


5
Croatian
10.86


6
Hungarian
12.2


7
Greek_Thessaly
14.62


8
Austrian
16.03


9
Ukrainian_Lviv
16.92


10
East_German
17.28


11
South_Polish
17.74


12
Ukrainian
17.89


13
North_Italian
19.96


14
Tuscan
20.25


15
Southwest_Russian
20.58


16
Ukrainian_Belgorod
20.9


17
Polish
21.23


18
West_German
21.36


19
Italian_Abruzzo
21.44


20
Central_Greek
21.56

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

78.8%
Bulgarian
+
21.2%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.24


2

80.8%
Bulgarian
+
19.2%
Estonian_Polish
@
2.31


3

83.8%
Bulgarian
+
16.2%
Lithuanian
@
2.35


4

81.3%
Bulgarian
+
18.7%
Belorussian
@
2.41


5

82.4%
Bulgarian
+
17.6%
Erzya
@
2.46


6

76.6%
Bulgarian
+
23.4%
Ukrainian
@
2.47


7

81.9%
Bulgarian
+
18.1%
Kargopol_Russian
@
2.49


8

79.4%
Bulgarian
+
20.6%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.54


9

80.8%
Bulgarian
+
19.2%
Russian_Smolensk
@
2.54


10

84%
Bulgarian
+
16%
Estonian
@
2.65


11

84.5%
Bulgarian
+
15.5%
East_Finnish
@
2.77


12

58.7%
Greek_Thessaly
+
41.3%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.77


13

80.1%
Bulgarian
+
19.9%
Polish
@
2.83


14

76.1%
Bulgarian
+
23.9%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
2.84


15

77%
Bulgarian
+
23%
South_Polish
@
2.87


16

54.8%
Ukrainian
+
45.2%
Central_Greek
@
3.01


17

55.2%
Greek_Thessaly
+
44.8%
Ukrainian
@
3.02


18

84.5%
Bulgarian
+
15.5%
Finnish
@
3.04


19

59.1%
Greek_Thessaly
+
40.9%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
3.05


20

67.1%
Bulgarian
+
32.9%
Croatian
@
3.06



</tbody>

Zaluznika village


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
North_Atlantic
29.62


2
Baltic
26.83


3
West_Med
17.06


4
East_Med
13.94


5
West_Asian
8.68


6
Siberian
1.21


7
Northeast_African
1


8
Red_Sea
0.76


9
Oceanian
0.63


10
South_Asian
0.21


11
Sub-Saharan
0.06

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
3.58


2
Romanian
6.78


3
Hungarian
7.31


4
Moldavian
8.54


5
Austrian
9.19


6
Bulgarian
9.6


7
Croatian
9.77


8
East_German
11.06


9
West_German
13.51


10
South_Dutch
15.04


11
French
15.05


12
South_Polish
16.13


13
Ukrainian_Lviv
16.2


14
North_Italian
16.46


15
Greek_Thessaly
17.17


16
Ukrainian
17.35


17
Portuguese
18.4


18
North_German
18.51


19
Spanish_Galicia
18.7


20
Tuscan
18.94

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

51.1%
Austrian
+
48.9%
Bulgarian
@
2.09


2

62.8%
Romanian
+
37.2%
East_German
@
2.16


3

53.7%
Bulgarian
+
46.3%
East_German
@
2.19


4

58.2%
Romanian
+
41.8%
Austrian
@
2.19


5

54.1%
South_Polish
+
45.9%
Tuscan
@
2.22


6

89%
Serbian
+
11%
Southwest_English
@
2.29


7

84.4%
Serbian
+
15.6%
South_Dutch
@
2.29


8

82.9%
Serbian
+
17.1%
West_German
@
2.29


9

56.8%
North_Italian
+
43.2%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.3


10

88.2%
Serbian
+
11.8%
Southeast_English
@
2.31


11

92.6%
Serbian
+
7.4%
French_Basque
@
2.34


12

89.1%
Serbian
+
10.9%
Orcadian
@
2.37


13

90%
Serbian
+
10%
West_Scottish
@
2.44


14

89.8%
Serbian
+
10.2%
Irish
@
2.44


15

89.3%
Serbian
+
10.7%
Southwest_French
@
2.47


16

85.2%
Serbian
+
14.8%
French
@
2.49


17

61.2%
East_German
+
38.8%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.51


18

56.4%
North_Italian
+
43.6%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.52


19

89.3%
Serbian
+
10.7%
North_Dutch
@
2.54


20

89.2%
Serbian
+
10.8%
Danish
@
2.56



</tbody>

[CommonSense]

.....




Zalužnica and Gornje Vrhovine are Serbian villages. Vbnetkhio collected all of the kits from Zalužnica, I posted a chart with their results in the thread for Serbian autosomal DNA.

[Dušan]

Croats from Lika


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
31.02


2
North_Atlantic
24.43


3
West_Med
17.68


4
East_Med
11.11


5
West_Asian
9.54


6
Red_Sea
3.13


7
South_Asian
2.37


8
Amerindian
0.62


9
Siberian
0.06


10
Oceanian
0.05

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Moldavian
4.19


2
Serbian
6.24


3
Croatian
6.53


4
Romanian
8.67


5
Hungarian
8.89


6
Bulgarian
10.61


7
Austrian
12.09


8
Ukrainian_Lviv
12.64


9
East_German
12.8


10
South_Polish
13.92


11
Ukrainian
14.14


12
Polish
17.08


13
Southwest_Russian
17.75


14
Ukrainian_Belgorod
17.88


15
West_German
18.58


16
Greek_Thessaly
18.76


17
Russian_Smolensk
19.16


18
Estonian_Polish
19.79


19
South_Dutch
19.83


20
French
20.29

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

92.6%
Moldavian
+
7.4%
Sardinian
@
2.46


2

86.8%
Moldavian
+
13.2%
North_Italian
@
2.75


3

88.1%
Moldavian
+
11.9%
Tuscan
@
2.86


4

89.1%
Moldavian
+
10.9%
Spanish_Extremadura
@
2.94


5

88.6%
Moldavian
+
11.4%
Spanish_Galicia
@
2.99


6

90.1%
Moldavian
+
9.9%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
3.01


7

90.1%
Moldavian
+
9.9%
West_Sicilian
@
3.06


8

90.3%
Moldavian
+
9.7%
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
@
3.06


9

76.3%
Croatian
+
23.7%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.09


10

89.1%
Moldavian
+
10.9%
Portuguese
@
3.1


11

81.6%
Croatian
+
18.4%
Central_Greek
@
3.11


12

82.3%
Croatian
+
17.7%
East_Sicilian
@
3.12


13

83.9%
Croatian
+
16.1%
South_Italian
@
3.12


14

86.9%
Moldavian
+
13.1%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.13


15

90.2%
Moldavian
+
9.8%
Spanish_Valencia
@
3.13


16

90.4%
Moldavian
+
9.6%
Spanish_Cantabria
@
3.15


17

90.3%
Moldavian
+
9.7%
Spanish_Murcia
@
3.16


18

91.4%
Moldavian
+
8.6%
Spanish_Aragon
@
3.17


19

90%
Moldavian
+
10%
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
@
3.17


20

91.6%
Moldavian
+
8.4%
South_Italian
@
3.19



</tbody>

Zaluznika village


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
31.22


2
North_Atlantic
22.21


3
West_Med
17.61


4
East_Med
13.65


5
West_Asian
8.14


6
Red_Sea
4.06


7
Amerindian
1.43


8
South_Asian
1.36


9
Northeast_African
0.32

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Moldavian
5.7


2
Serbian
6.58


3
Croatian
8.08


4
Romanian
8.13


5
Bulgarian
9.4


6
Hungarian
10.77


7
Ukrainian_Lviv
13.94


8
Austrian
14.43


9
East_German
15.21


10
Ukrainian
15.31


11
South_Polish
15.44


12
Greek_Thessaly
17.33


13
Polish
18.37


14
Southwest_Russian
18.44


15
Ukrainian_Belgorod
18.75


16
Russian_Smolensk
20.15


17
Estonian_Polish
20.57


18
West_German
20.68


19
North_Italian
21.09


20
Belorussian
21.41

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

55.6%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
44.4%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.07


2

71.1%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
28.9%
Algerian_Jewish
@
3.21


3

65.1%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
34.9%
East_Sicilian
@
3.33


4

81.9%
Croatian
+
18.1%
Algerian_Jewish
@
3.36


5

53.2%
Ukrainian
+
46.8%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.37


6

53.9%
Greek_Thessaly
+
46.1%
Russian_Smolensk
@
3.42


7

85.8%
Croatian
+
14.2%
Samaritan
@
3.42


8

62.8%
Ukrainian
+
37.2%
East_Sicilian
@
3.42


9

59.9%
Greek_Thessaly
+
40.1%
Lithuanian
@
3.43


10

54.4%
Greek_Thessaly
+
45.6%
Estonian_Polish
@
3.45


11

51.5%
Greek_Thessaly
+
48.5%
Polish
@
3.47


12

67.9%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
32.1%
South_Italian
@
3.5


13

70%
Croatian
+
30%
Greek_Thessaly
@
3.5


14

84.2%
Croatian
+
15.8%
Cyprian
@
3.52


15

89.7%
Moldavian
+
10.3%
Moroccan
@
3.56


16

64.2%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
35.8%
Central_Greek
@
3.56


17

77.7%
Croatian
+
22.3%
East_Sicilian
@
3.57


18

88.2%
Moldavian
+
11.8%
Algerian_Jewish
@
3.57


19

83.6%
Croatian
+
16.4%
Libyan_Jewish
@
3.61


20

89.6%
Moldavian
+
10.4%
Tunisian
@
3.64



</tbody>

Zaluznika village


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
30.76


2
North_Atlantic
22.43


3
East_Med
19.58


4
West_Med
18.57


5
West_Asian
4.52


6
Red_Sea
2.07


7
Siberian
1.05


8
East_Asian
0.79


9
South_Asian
0.11


10
Oceanian
0.09


11
Amerindian
0.02

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
7.81


2
Romanian
8.48


3
Bulgarian
8.81


4
Moldavian
10.2


5
Croatian
11.8


6
Hungarian
13.24


7
Greek_Thessaly
15.67


8
Austrian
16.71


9
Ukrainian_Lviv
17.52


10
East_German
17.72


11
Ukrainian
18.23


12
South_Polish
18.25


13
North_Italian
19.76


14
Tuscan
20.36


15
Southwest_Russian
21.14


16
Polish
21.44


17
Ukrainian_Belgorod
21.84


18
West_German
22.03


19
French
22.57


20
Italian_Abruzzo
22.83

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

63.5%
Ukrainian
+
36.5%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.79


2

57.5%
Estonian_Polish
+
42.5%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.99


3

63.7%
Ukrainian
+
36.3%
Italian_Jewish
@
5.01


4

57.3%
Ukrainian
+
42.7%
Ashkenazi
@
5.06


5

57.7%
Estonian_Polish
+
42.3%
Italian_Jewish
@
5.19


6

56.8%
Belorussian
+
43.2%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.26


7

60.4%
Greek_Thessaly
+
39.6%
Estonian_Polish
@
5.28


8

52.3%
Lithuanian
+
47.7%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.29


9

61.1%
Greek_Thessaly
+
38.9%
Belorussian
@
5.37


10

59.5%
Polish
+
40.5%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.48


11

52.5%
Lithuanian
+
47.5%
Italian_Jewish
@
5.5


12

50.1%
Estonian_Polish
+
49.9%
West_Sicilian
@
5.5


13

51%
Estonian_Polish
+
49%
Ashkenazi
@
5.52


14

65.4%
Greek_Thessaly
+
34.6%
Lithuanian
@
5.53


15

57.6%
Russian_Smolensk
+
42.4%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.59


16

52.6%
Estonian
+
47.4%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.6


17

63.7%
South_Polish
+
36.3%
Algerian_Jewish
@
5.64


18

53%
Polish
+
47%
Ashkenazi
@
5.66


19

54.3%
Greek_Thessaly
+
45.7%
Ukrainian
@
5.66


20

57%
Belorussian
+
43%
Italian_Jewish
@
5.7



</tbody>

Gornje Vrhovine village



<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
27.03


2
North_Atlantic
25.01


3
West_Med
18.53


4
East_Med
15.06


5
West_Asian
11.57


6
Oceanian
1.02


7
Red_Sea
0.91


8
South_Asian
0.56


9
Sub-Saharan
0.31

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
4.13


2
Romanian
4.18


3
Bulgarian
6.05


4
Moldavian
8.1


5
Croatian
10.77


6
Hungarian
10.91


7
Austrian
13.45


8
Greek_Thessaly
14.4


9
East_German
15.05


10
North_Italian
17.04


11
Ukrainian_Lviv
17.32


12
South_Polish
17.99


13
West_German
18


14
Tuscan
18.33


15
Ukrainian
18.6


16
French
18.92


17
South_Dutch
19.53


18
Italian_Abruzzo
20.23


19
Portuguese
20.92


20
Central_Greek
21.18

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

73.3%
Bulgarian
+
26.7%
East_German
@
2.74


2

70.5%
Moldavian
+
29.5%
Tuscan
@
2.83


3

71.2%
Romanian
+
28.8%
Moldavian
@
2.84


4

77.3%
Romanian
+
22.7%
Croatian
@
2.87


5

65.9%
Croatian
+
34.1%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.97


6

72.7%
Moldavian
+
27.3%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
3.01


7

71%
Croatian
+
29%
South_Italian
@
3.03


8

85.6%
Romanian
+
14.4%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
3.03


9

86.5%
Romanian
+
13.5%
Ukrainian
@
3.04


10

67%
Croatian
+
33%
Central_Greek
@
3.05


11

71.5%
Bulgarian
+
28.5%
Austrian
@
3.05


12

66.5%
Bulgarian
+
33.5%
Croatian
@
3.09


13

86.3%
Romanian
+
13.7%
South_Polish
@
3.09


14

88.4%
Romanian
+
11.6%
Polish
@
3.09


15

74.2%
Moldavian
+
25.8%
West_Sicilian
@
3.13


16

89.8%
Romanian
+
10.2%
Russian_Smolensk
@
3.21


17

91.6%
Romanian
+
8.4%
Lithuanian
@
3.21


18

59.2%
Bulgarian
+
40.8%
Moldavian
@
3.24


19

67.1%
Bulgarian
+
32.9%
Hungarian
@
3.26


20

90.3%
Romanian
+
9.7%
Estonian_Polish
@
3.28



</tbody>

Gornje Vrhovine village


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
30.45


2
North_Atlantic
29.46


3
East_Med
16.89


4
West_Med
15.42


5
West_Asian
5.99


6
Siberian
1.17


7
Oceanian
0.49


8
Amerindian
0.14

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
5.27


2
Hungarian
7.04


3
Moldavian
8.49


4
Romanian
8.73


5
Croatian
8.77


6
Austrian
10.29


7
Bulgarian
10.95


8
East_German
11.55


9
South_Polish
14.36


10
Ukrainian_Lviv
14.79


11
Ukrainian
15.51


12
West_German
15.67


13
South_Dutch
17.17


14
French
17.78


15
Polish
18.13


16
Greek_Thessaly
18.79


17
Southwest_Russian
18.9


18
North_Italian
19.35


19
Ukrainian_Belgorod
19.53


20
North_German
19.65

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

50.4%
Belorussian
+
49.6%
Tuscan
@
3.55


2

60.3%
South_Polish
+
39.7%
Tuscan
@
3.92


3

54.9%
Tuscan
+
45.1%
Lithuanian
@
3.98


4

50.7%
Estonian_Polish
+
49.3%
Tuscan
@
3.98


5

53.6%
Tuscan
+
46.4%
Estonian
@
4.11


6

53.2%
Southwest_Russian
+
46.8%
Tuscan
@
4.18


7

64.7%
South_Polish
+
35.3%
West_Sicilian
@
4.21


8

87.1%
Serbian
+
12.9%
Southwest_Finnish
@
4.25


9

51%
Estonian
+
49%
West_Sicilian
@
4.26


10

50.6%
Southwest_Russian
+
49.4%
North_Italian
@
4.27


11

53.4%
Greek_Thessaly
+
46.6%
Southwest_Finnish
@
4.3


12

58.4%
Ukrainian
+
41.6%
Tuscan
@
4.32


13

89%
Serbian
+
11%
Estonian
@
4.34


14

83.1%
Hungarian
+
16.9%
Ashkenazi
@
4.34


15

71.3%
South_Polish
+
28.7%
Italian_Jewish
@
4.36


16

65.4%
Serbian
+
34.6%
Hungarian
@
4.38


17

89.1%
Serbian
+
10.9%
Finnish
@
4.39


18

51%
Russian_Smolensk
+
49%
Tuscan
@
4.4


19

67.6%
Bulgarian
+
32.4%
Southwest_Finnish
@
4.4


20

87.7%
Serbian
+
12.3%
Belorussian
@
4.41



</tbody>

Gornje Vrhovine village


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
29.88


2
North_Atlantic
22.23


3
East_Med
18.32


4
West_Med
16.94


5
West_Asian
10.11


6
Siberian
1.41


7
Red_Sea
0.57


8
Amerindian
0.38


9
Oceanian
0.17

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Romanian
5.5


2
Serbian
5.84


3
Bulgarian
5.95


4
Moldavian
8.13


5
Croatian
10.86


6
Hungarian
12.2


7
Greek_Thessaly
14.62


8
Austrian
16.03


9
Ukrainian_Lviv
16.92


10
East_German
17.28


11
South_Polish
17.74


12
Ukrainian
17.89


13
North_Italian
19.96


14
Tuscan
20.25


15
Southwest_Russian
20.58


16
Ukrainian_Belgorod
20.9


17
Polish
21.23


18
West_German
21.36


19
Italian_Abruzzo
21.44


20
Central_Greek
21.56

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

78.8%
Bulgarian
+
21.2%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.24


2

80.8%
Bulgarian
+
19.2%
Estonian_Polish
@
2.31


3

83.8%
Bulgarian
+
16.2%
Lithuanian
@
2.35


4

81.3%
Bulgarian
+
18.7%
Belorussian
@
2.41


5

82.4%
Bulgarian
+
17.6%
Erzya
@
2.46


6

76.6%
Bulgarian
+
23.4%
Ukrainian
@
2.47


7

81.9%
Bulgarian
+
18.1%
Kargopol_Russian
@
2.49


8

79.4%
Bulgarian
+
20.6%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.54


9

80.8%
Bulgarian
+
19.2%
Russian_Smolensk
@
2.54


10

84%
Bulgarian
+
16%
Estonian
@
2.65


11

84.5%
Bulgarian
+
15.5%
East_Finnish
@
2.77


12

58.7%
Greek_Thessaly
+
41.3%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.77


13

80.1%
Bulgarian
+
19.9%
Polish
@
2.83


14

76.1%
Bulgarian
+
23.9%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
2.84


15

77%
Bulgarian
+
23%
South_Polish
@
2.87


16

54.8%
Ukrainian
+
45.2%
Central_Greek
@
3.01


17

55.2%
Greek_Thessaly
+
44.8%
Ukrainian
@
3.02


18

84.5%
Bulgarian
+
15.5%
Finnish
@
3.04


19

59.1%
Greek_Thessaly
+
40.9%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
3.05


20

67.1%
Bulgarian
+
32.9%
Croatian
@
3.06



</tbody>

Zaluznika village


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
North_Atlantic
29.62


2
Baltic
26.83


3
West_Med
17.06


4
East_Med
13.94


5
West_Asian
8.68


6
Siberian
1.21


7
Northeast_African
1


8
Red_Sea
0.76


9
Oceanian
0.63


10
South_Asian
0.21


11
Sub-Saharan
0.06

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Serbian
3.58


2
Romanian
6.78


3
Hungarian
7.31


4
Moldavian
8.54


5
Austrian
9.19


6
Bulgarian
9.6


7
Croatian
9.77


8
East_German
11.06


9
West_German
13.51


10
South_Dutch
15.04


11
French
15.05


12
South_Polish
16.13


13
Ukrainian_Lviv
16.2


14
North_Italian
16.46


15
Greek_Thessaly
17.17


16
Ukrainian
17.35


17
Portuguese
18.4


18
North_German
18.51


19
Spanish_Galicia
18.7


20
Tuscan
18.94

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

51.1%
Austrian
+
48.9%
Bulgarian
@
2.09


2

62.8%
Romanian
+
37.2%
East_German
@
2.16


3

53.7%
Bulgarian
+
46.3%
East_German
@
2.19


4

58.2%
Romanian
+
41.8%
Austrian
@
2.19


5

54.1%
South_Polish
+
45.9%
Tuscan
@
2.22


6

89%
Serbian
+
11%
Southwest_English
@
2.29


7

84.4%
Serbian
+
15.6%
South_Dutch
@
2.29


8

82.9%
Serbian
+
17.1%
West_German
@
2.29


9

56.8%
North_Italian
+
43.2%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.3


10

88.2%
Serbian
+
11.8%
Southeast_English
@
2.31


11

92.6%
Serbian
+
7.4%
French_Basque
@
2.34


12

89.1%
Serbian
+
10.9%
Orcadian
@
2.37


13

90%
Serbian
+
10%
West_Scottish
@
2.44


14

89.8%
Serbian
+
10.2%
Irish
@
2.44


15

89.3%
Serbian
+
10.7%
Southwest_French
@
2.47


16

85.2%
Serbian
+
14.8%
French
@
2.49


17

61.2%
East_German
+
38.8%
Greek_Thessaly
@
2.51


18

56.4%
North_Italian
+
43.6%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.52


19

89.3%
Serbian
+
10.7%
North_Dutch
@
2.54


20

89.2%
Serbian
+
10.8%
Danish
@
2.56



</tbody>


Zalužnica and Gornje Vrhovine are ethnic Serb villages in Lika.
These are results of Serbs from Lika.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbs_of_Croatia

[Ion Basescul]

Zalužnica and Gornje Vrhovine are Serbian villages. Vbnetkhio collected all of the kits from Zalužnica, I posted a chart with their results in the thread for Serbian autosomal DNA.

Makes sense, obviously they don't specify the ethnicity in the family tree.

[Chris596]

The thread is called South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results.
You're Hungarian, thus a neighbour to South Slavs.
Your results are welcome indeed.
:)

Okay :D

Székely-Hungarian with South-Slavic ancestors from Hungarian side (Half of the family is from the Great Hungarian Plain, the other half is from Transylvania Szekelyland)

Eurogenes K13 Updated:

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.36
2 North_Atlantic 24.56
3 East_Med 15.56
4 West_Med 15.44
5 West_Asian 10.63
6 East_Asian 1.62
7 Siberian 1.27
8 Sub-Saharan 0.31
9 Red_Sea 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

2.77447292 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
2.99006689 Romania_Moldavia_North
3.05632132 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
3.13663833 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
3.22116439 Bosniak
3.23549069 Serb
3.25511905 Serb_Serbia
3.32863335 Serb_Croatia
3.62229982 Bosniak_Sarajevo
3.62474827 Romania_Maramures
3.63550547 Serb_B&H
3.64406367 Serb_B&H_Krajina
3.76528883 Serb_Croatia_Lika&Dalmatia
3.81714553 Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
3.87178254 Romania_Moldavia_average
3.92103303 Moldova_Centre
3.95246758 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
4.08115180 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
4.24228712 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
4.29129351 Croat_B&H

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.8% Bulgarian + 34.2% South_Polish @ 1.95
2 66.5% Bulgarian + 33.5% Ukrainian @ 2.07
3 76.8% Bulgarian + 23.2% Estonian @ 2.2
4 75.8% Romanian + 24.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.32
5 70.9% Bulgarian + 29.1% Polish @ 2.37
6 75.6% Romanian + 24.4% Southwest_Russian @ 2.37
7 76.8% Bulgarian + 23.2% Finnish @ 2.4
8 73.8% Bulgarian + 26.2% Belorussian @ 2.45
9 72.3% Romanian + 27.7% Ukrainian @ 2.46
10 72.9% Bulgarian + 27.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.49
11 77.4% Bulgarian + 22.6% Lithuanian @ 2.5
12 65.3% Bulgarian + 34.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.51
13 70.9% Bulgarian + 29.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.52
14 70.7% Bulgarian + 29.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.52
15 73.4% Bulgarian + 26.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.54
16 51.1% Bulgarian + 48.9% Croatian @ 2.58
17 81.7% Romanian + 18.3% Lithuanian @ 2.59
18 77.7% Bulgarian + 22.3% East_Finnish @ 2.64
19 78.3% Romanian + 21.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.66
20 60.7% Ukrainian + 39.3% Central_Greek @ 2.66

Eurogenes K15:

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 21.89
2 Atlantic 17.84
3 North_Sea 15.48
4 East_Med 11.23
5 West_Med 10.76
6 West_Asian 10.57
7 Eastern_Euro 9.83
8 Southeast_Asian 1.33
9 Siberian 0.75
10 Red_Sea 0.40
11 Sub-Saharan 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

4.94220599 Bosniak
5.27331964 Romania_Ne
6.39380189 Bosnian
7.21506194 Serbian_Bosnia
7.36702111 Romania_Sw
7.56411925 Romania_Nw
7.62556719 Szekely
7.78319343 Romanian
8.34528609 South_Serbian
8.81896241 Macedonian
9.10900653 Moldavian
9.12005482 Croatian
9.22196291 Romania_South
9.29368603 Serbian
9.39607777 Montenegrin
9.57222022 Bulgarian
9.91072457 Slovenian
11.35310090 Austrian
11.54062823 Romania_Se
11.83394693 Hungarian

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.8% Bulgarian + 25.2% Lithuanian @ 3.67
2 68.6% Bulgarian + 31.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.76
3 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% Belorussian @ 3.83
4 65.2% Bulgarian + 34.8% South_Polish @ 3.88
5 69.5% Bulgarian + 30.5% Polish @ 4.01
6 72.5% Bulgarian + 27.5% Estonian_Polish @ 4.11
7 50.9% Croatian + 49.1% Bulgarian @ 4.15
8 75.4% Bulgarian + 24.6% Estonian @ 4.2
9 79.6% Romanian + 20.4% Lithuanian @ 4.23
10 65.4% Bulgarian + 34.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.23
11 70% Bulgarian + 30% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.3
12 71% Bulgarian + 29% Southwest_Russian @ 4.32
13 74.3% Romanian + 25.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.35
14 67.5% Bulgarian + 32.5% Ukrainian @ 4.37
15 77.2% Romanian + 22.8% Belorussian @ 4.43
16 55.2% South_Polish + 44.8% Greek @ 4.53
17 78% Romanian + 22% Estonian_Polish @ 4.6
18 76.1% Bulgarian + 23.9% La_Brana-1 @ 4.64
19 62.1% Russian_Smolensk + 37.9% South_Italian @ 4.65
20 71.7% Croatian + 28.3% Greek @ 4.67

Eurogenes Steppe K10:

Components %
Near_Eastern 37.26
East_Asian 2.12
Siberian 1.83
WHG-UHG 30.14
Sub-Saharan 0.42
Hindu_Kush 3.54
Steppe 24.11
Southeast_Asian 0.57

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Serbian @ 3.758
2 100% Bosnian @ 4.468
3 100% Serbian_Bosnia @ 4.760
4 100% Croatian @ 4.948
5 100% Montenegrin @ 5.310
6 100% Romanian @ 6.029
7 100% Macedonian @ 7.052
8 100% Bulgarian @ 7.339
9 100% Hungarian @ 7.415
10 100% French @ 9.478
11 100% Czech @ 11.865
12 100% Utah_USA @ 11.981
13 100% Utah_German @ 12.151
14 100% English @ 12.261
15 100% Kosovar @ 12.771
16 100% HungaryGamba_BA @ 12.952
17 100% Utah_British @ 13.562
18 100% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 14.071
19 100% Ukrainian_Poltava @ 14.638
20 100% Scottish @ 14.734

Mixed Mode:
1 53.52% Tuscan + 46.48% Moksha @ 1.632
2 52.73% Tuscan + 47.27% Russian @ 2.024
3 91.02% Romanian + 8.98% Motala12 @ 2.069
4 74.61% Romanian + 25.39% Norwegian @ 2.124
5 74.61% Romanian + 25.39% Utah_Scandinavian @ 2.183
6 68.36% Romanian + 31.64% Utah_German @ 2.191
7 70.70% Romanian + 29.30% Utah_British @ 2.197
8 75.39% Romanian + 24.61% Icelandic @ 2.216
9 56.64% Tuscan + 43.36% Russian_Kargopol @ 2.246
10 78.52% Hungarian + 21.48% Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.249
11 72.27% Romanian + 27.73% Scottish @ 2.260
12 67.58% Romanian + 32.42% Utah_USA @ 2.269
13 50.39% Moksha + 49.61% Tuscan @ 2.297
14 84.77% Hungarian + 15.23% Libyan_Jew @ 2.316
15 57.42% Bergamo + 42.58% Moksha @ 2.318
16 50.39% Russian + 49.61% Tuscan @ 2.321
17 72.27% Romanian + 27.73% Orcadian @ 2.326
18 82.42% Hungarian + 17.58% Turkish_Jew @ 2.329
19 94.92% Serbian + 5.08% Tubalar @ 2.337
20 55.86% Romanian + 44.14% Hungarian @ 2.351

PCA Map: https://i.imgur.com/bKdCjBg.png

Population nMonte:

Distance: 2.02

63.20% Serbian
17.20% Bosnian
15.20% French
01.60% Buryat
01.20% Altaian
00.60% Serbian_Bosnia
00.40% Kyrgyz
00.40% Romanian
00.20% Afghan_Turkmen

[Mingle]

Ethnicity: Albanian
Region: Korçë

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 23.73
2 East_Med 21.79
3 West_Med 20.75
4 Baltic 17.84
5 West_Asian 10.17
6 Red_Sea 4.21
7 Siberian 1.07
8 East_Asian 0.29
9 Amerindian 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.7
2 Bulgarian 7.04
3 Romanian 7.84
4 Tuscan 8.54
5 North_Italian 10.48
6 Italian_Abruzzo 10.52
7 Serbian 11.4
8 West_Sicilian 11.4
9 Central_Greek 11.96
10 East_Sicilian 12.92
11 Ashkenazi 15.16
12 South_Italian 15.67
13 Portuguese 17.6
14 Moldavian 18.02
15 Spanish_Extremadura 18.15
16 Spanish_Galicia 18.45
17 Hungarian 19.29
18 Spanish_Murcia 19.32
19 Spanish_Cataluna 19.53
20 Spanish_Andalucia 19.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55% Bulgarian + 45% Tuscan @ 1.62
2 50% West_Sicilian + 50% Serbian @ 2
3 64.7% West_Sicilian + 35.3% Croatian @ 2.03
4 81.3% Greek_Thessaly + 18.7% South_Dutch @ 2.09
5 70.7% West_Sicilian + 29.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.14
6 71.7% West_Sicilian + 28.3% Ukrainian @ 2.14
7 78.8% Greek_Thessaly + 21.2% French @ 2.14
8 59.8% Romanian + 40.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.19
9 85.3% Greek_Thessaly + 14.7% Southwest_English @ 2.2
10 71.2% West_Sicilian + 28.8% South_Polish @ 2.23
11 52.3% Romanian + 47.7% Tuscan @ 2.26
12 85.6% Greek_Thessaly + 14.4% Orcadian @ 2.28
13 73.7% West_Sicilian + 26.3% Polish @ 2.28
14 61.5% West_Sicilian + 38.5% Moldavian @ 2.31
15 84.8% Greek_Thessaly + 15.2% Southeast_English @ 2.32
16 80.7% Greek_Thessaly + 19.3% West_German @ 2.33
17 86.2% Greek_Thessaly + 13.8% West_Scottish @ 2.35
18 86% Greek_Thessaly + 14% Irish @ 2.38
19 85.6% Greek_Thessaly + 14.4% North_Dutch @ 2.4
20 86.4% Greek_Thessaly + 13.6% Norwegian @ 2.44

[Ion Basescul]

This guy (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?21219-My-Heritage-results-(Bulgarian)) is 2/4 from Northeastern Bulgaria (Dobrich and Shumen), 1/4 from Southcentral (Sliven) and 1/4 from Tetovo North Macedonia.

1 East_Med 25.97
2 North_Atlantic 22.14
3 Baltic 21.81
4 West_Med 19.68
5 West_Asian 6.4
6 South_Asian 1.36
7 Siberian 1.29
8 Red_Sea 0.89
9 Amerindian 0.35
10 Oceanian 0.11

http://b.radikal.ru/b09/2007/4d/8d9717993fb5.png

[Aspirin]

This guy (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?21219-My-Heritage-results-(Bulgarian)) is 2/4 from Northeastern Bulgaria (Dobrich and Shumen), 1/4 from Southcentral (Sliven) and 1/4 from Tetovo North Macedonia.

1 East_Med 25.97
2 North_Atlantic 22.14
3 Baltic 21.81
4 West_Med 19.68
5 West_Asian 6.4
6 South_Asian 1.36
7 Siberian 1.29
8 Red_Sea 0.89
9 Amerindian 0.35
10 Oceanian 0.11

http://b.radikal.ru/b09/2007/4d/8d9717993fb5.png

Same person: http://www.balto-slavica.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22059

[Ion Basescul]

Same person: http://www.balto-slavica.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=22059

Yep, I actually was wondering why his images in the Anthrogenica thread were uploaded on radikal.ru :lol:

[Leto]

Hungarian

Kit number: XE7255704

Population
North_Atlantic 30.58 Pct
Baltic 33.47 Pct
West_Med 15.49 Pct
West_Asian 7.31 Pct
East_Med 8.92 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.75 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.95 Pct
Oceanian 0.53 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.15
2 Croatian 4.44
3 Moldavian 6.43
4 East_German 6.82
5 Austrian 7.2
6 South_Polish 9.26
7 Serbian 9.37
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.47
9 Ukrainian 10.46
10 Polish 12.67
11 Romanian 13.24
12 West_German 14.79
13 Southwest_Russian 14.83
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.15
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.66
16 Bulgarian 15.76
17 South_Dutch 16.04
18 Estonian_Polish 16.2
19 North_Swedish 16.61
20 Southwest_Finnish 16.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.9% Croatian + 16.1% Southeast_English @ 2.29
2 79.3% Croatian + 20.7% West_German @ 2.29
3 80.7% Croatian + 19.3% South_Dutch @ 2.32
4 85.4% Croatian + 14.6% Southwest_English @ 2.39
5 51.7% Moldavian + 48.3% East_German @ 2.45
6 90.9% Croatian + 9.1% French_Basque @ 2.49
7 63.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.49
8 84.9% Croatian + 15.1% Orcadian @ 2.5
9 83.3% Croatian + 16.7% French @ 2.51
10 64.9% Croatian + 35.1% Austrian @ 2.53
11 86.1% Croatian + 13.9% West_Scottish @ 2.54
12 85.6% Croatian + 14.4% Irish @ 2.55
13 63.5% Croatian + 36.5% East_German @ 2.55
14 64.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 35.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.6
15 84.4% Croatian + 15.6% Danish @ 2.72
16 87.7% Croatian + 12.3% Southwest_French @ 2.74
17 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% North_Dutch @ 2.74
18 87.3% Croatian + 12.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.8
19 89.3% Croatian + 10.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.81
20 82.7% Croatian + 17.3% North_German @ 2.81


Population
North_Sea 29.18 Pct
Atlantic 10.34 Pct
Baltic 22.21 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.16 Pct
West_Med 11.74 Pct
West_Asian 4.45 Pct
East_Med 6.95 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.24 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.40 Pct
Oceanian 0.33 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 8.14
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.4
3 Moldavian 10.65
4 Ukrainian 11.05
5 East_German 11.45
6 Croatian 11.73
7 South_Polish 12.31
8 Serbian 13.85
9 Austrian 14.12
10 Finnish 14.54
11 Polish 14.69
12 Southwest_Finnish 15.1
13 West_German 15.35
14 North_Swedish 15.93
15 Romanian 16.24
16 Estonian 16.25
17 Swedish 16.83
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.14
19 Russian_Smolensk 17.15
20 Southwest_Russian 17.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 35.5% West_German @ 7.28
2 62.4% Ukrainian + 37.6% West_German @ 7.54
3 67.1% Moldavian + 32.9% Swedish @ 7.75
4 76.8% Hungarian + 23.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.87
5 79.8% Hungarian + 20.2% Ukrainian @ 7.9
6 72.2% Moldavian + 27.8% West_Norwegian @ 7.91
7 69.6% Moldavian + 30.4% Norwegian @ 7.99
8 91.8% Hungarian + 8.2% Estonian @ 8.04
9 92.4% Hungarian + 7.6% Swedish @ 8.05
10 93.2% Hungarian + 6.8% North_Swedish @ 8.08
11 94.9% Hungarian + 5.1% West_Norwegian @ 8.08
12 94.6% Hungarian + 5.4% Norwegian @ 8.09
13 93.2% Hungarian + 6.8% Finnish @ 8.09
14 97.2% Hungarian + 2.8% Lithuanian @ 8.12
15 99.6% Hungarian + 0.4% Karitiana @ 8.12
16 99.6% Hungarian + 0.4% Mayan @ 8.13
17 99.6% Hungarian + 0.4% Pima @ 8.13
18 99.6% Hungarian + 0.4% Anzick-1 @ 8.13
19 98% Hungarian + 2% West_German @ 8.13
20 99.7% Hungarian + 0.3% North_Amerindian @ 8.13


Population
Gedrosia 6.11 Pct
Siberian 1.08 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 28.28 Pct
North_European 46.80 Pct
South_Asian 1.18 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.60 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 13.96 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 3.47
2 German (Dodecad) 6.26
3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 12.86
4 Dutch (Dodecad) 13.68
5 Swedish (Dodecad) 15.39
6 Norwegian (Dodecad) 16.31
7 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 16.38
8 English (Dodecad) 16.61
9 Kent (1000Genomes) 16.61
10 Romanians (Behar) 17.09
11 British_Isles (Dodecad) 17.42
12 Polish (Dodecad) 17.47
13 French (Dodecad) 18.13
14 Argyll (1000Genomes) 18.41
15 French (HGDP) 18.59
16 Orkney (1000Genomes) 18.65
17 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 18.84
18 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 19.1
19 Orcadian (HGDP) 19.11
20 British (Dodecad) 19.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.6% Swedish (Dodecad) + 47.4% Romanians (Behar) @ 1.34
2 55.4% Swedish (Dodecad) + 44.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 1.48
3 80.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 19.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.72
4 86% Hungarians (Behar) + 14% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.77
5 86.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 13.3% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.88
6 86.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 13.2% British (Dodecad) @ 1.9
7 86.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 13.1% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.91
8 85.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 14.9% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.91
9 86.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 13.2% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.92
10 82.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 17.6% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.92
11 85.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 14.9% English (Dodecad) @ 1.92
12 84.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 15.1% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.92
13 55.8% Swedish (Dodecad) + 44.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.94
14 86.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 13.4% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.96
15 86.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 13.8% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.1
16 68.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 31.8% German (Dodecad) @ 2.13
17 87.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 12.4% French (HGDP) @ 2.27
18 94.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.3% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 2.42
19 51.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 48.8% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.44
20 95.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 4.5% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 2.46

[Leto]

Bosniak

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 24.92
2 Baltic 24.07
3 West_Med 20.26
4 East_Med 18.11
5 West_Asian 9.82
6 East_Asian 1.09
7 Red_Sea 0.78
8 Amerindian 0.76
9 Siberian 0.1
10 Oceanian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.66
2 Bulgarian 4.49
3 Serbian 6.06
4 Greek_Thessaly 11.18
5 Moldavian 11.88
6 Hungarian 13.63
7 North_Italian 13.69
8 Croatian 14.27
9 Tuscan 14.62
10 Austrian 15.66
11 Italian_Abruzzo 17.09
12 East_German 17.51
13 Central_Greek 18.13
14 West_Sicilian 18.18
15 French 18.35
16 Portuguese 18.73
17 West_German 18.77
18 Spanish_Galicia 19.26
19 East_Sicilian 19.4
20 Spanish_Extremadura 19.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.1% Bulgarian + 14.9% Southwest_French @ 2.07
2 90.1% Bulgarian + 9.9% French_Basque @ 2.26
3 92.7% Romanian + 7.3% Sardinian @ 2.32
4 85.5% Bulgarian + 14.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.42
5 84.3% Bulgarian + 15.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.58
6 87.3% Bulgarian + 12.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.67
7 85.1% Bulgarian + 14.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.68
8 86.1% Bulgarian + 13.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.75
9 85.2% Bulgarian + 14.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.75
10 84.3% Bulgarian + 15.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.76
11 83.7% Bulgarian + 16.3% French @ 2.77
12 90.8% Romanian + 9.2% Southwest_French @ 2.85
13 84.4% Bulgarian + 15.6% Portuguese @ 2.89
14 90.3% Romanian + 9.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.92
15 85.9% Romanian + 14.1% North_Italian @ 2.93
16 85.8% Bulgarian + 14.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.93
17 86.2% Bulgarian + 13.8% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.94
18 91.1% Romanian + 8.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.95
19 90.7% Romanian + 9.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.95
20 94.3% Romanian + 5.7% French_Basque @ 2.96


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 17.5
2 Baltic 17.33
3 North_Sea 16.39
4 West_Med 15.73
5 East_Med 15.23
6 West_Asian 9.62
7 Eastern_Euro 6.66
8 Southeast_Asian 0.66
9 Amerindian 0.49
10 Red_Sea 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.28
2 Bulgarian 5.28
3 Serbian 7.79
4 Greek_Thessaly 10.61
5 Greek 11.49
6 Moldavian 12.06
7 North_Italian 12.46
8 Tuscan 12.77
9 Austrian 12.77
10 Hungarian 12.9
11 Croatian 12.97
12 Italian_Abruzzo 15.58
13 East_German 16.43
14 Central_Greek 16.67
15 Spanish_Galicia 16.87
16 Portuguese 16.97
17 West_Sicilian 16.97
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17.1
19 French 17.17
20 East_Sicilian 17.55

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.2% Bulgarian + 17.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.86
2 82.5% Bulgarian + 17.5% French @ 3.92
3 82.4% Bulgarian + 17.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.94
4 83.2% Bulgarian + 16.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.98
5 87.3% Bulgarian + 12.7% Southwest_English @ 4.01
6 82.9% Bulgarian + 17.1% Portuguese @ 4.04
7 84.7% Bulgarian + 15.3% West_German @ 4.04
8 85.7% Bulgarian + 14.3% Southwest_French @ 4.1
9 91.2% Romanian + 8.8% Sardinian @ 4.11
10 85.9% Bulgarian + 14.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.11
11 53.3% Greek + 46.7% Hungarian @ 4.13
12 88.1% Bulgarian + 11.9% Southeast_English @ 4.14
13 84.9% Bulgarian + 15.1% South_Dutch @ 4.15
14 88.9% Bulgarian + 11.1% Irish @ 4.2
15 84.6% Bulgarian + 15.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.2
16 89.7% Bulgarian + 10.3% Orcadian @ 4.22
17 88.8% Bulgarian + 11.2% North_Dutch @ 4.23
18 85.4% Bulgarian + 14.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.24
19 59.8% Greek + 40.2% East_German @ 4.25
20 89.4% Bulgarian + 10.6% West_Scottish @ 4.25


Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 34.39
2 Atlantic_Med 28.74
3 Caucasus 27.15
4 Southwest_Asian 4.29
5 Gedrosia 2.47
6 Northwest_African 1.6
7 South_Asian 1.2
8 Southeast_Asian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 4.83
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 5.33
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 5.95
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.4
5 N_Italian (Dodecad) 16.05
6 Hungarians (Behar) 16.4
7 Greek (Dodecad) 16.88
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 17.19
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 17.43
10 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.06
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 18.82
12 German (Dodecad) 21.01
13 French (Dodecad) 22.91
14 French (HGDP) 22.91
15 Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.62
16 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.85
17 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 23.9
18 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 23.97
19 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 24.1
20 Baleares (1000Genomes) 25.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.2% Romanians (Behar) + 14.8% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 2.1
2 87.4% Romanians (Behar) + 12.6% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 2.11
3 86.8% Romanians (Behar) + 13.2% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 2.11
4 87.9% Romanians (Behar) + 12.1% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 2.12
5 85.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 14.6% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 2.12
6 88.3% Romanians (Behar) + 11.7% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 2.15
7 82.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 17.6% French (HGDP) @ 2.15
8 87.8% Romanians (Behar) + 12.2% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 2.17
9 86% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 14% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 2.19
10 87.1% Romanians (Behar) + 12.9% Spaniards (Behar) @ 2.19
11 86.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 13.5% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 2.21
12 87.4% Romanians (Behar) + 12.6% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 2.21
13 85.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 14.5% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 2.22
14 84.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 15.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 2.23
15 90.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 9.7% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 2.26
16 87% Romanians (Behar) + 13% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 2.26
17 84.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 15.4% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 2.27
18 86.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 13.2% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 2.28
19 87.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 12.9% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 2.28
20 87.1% Romanians (Behar) + 12.9% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 2.29

[vbnetkhio]

Bosniak


must be Sandžakian.

[Leto]

must be Sandžakian.
A more regular Bosniak

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.39
2 North_Atlantic 27.89
3 West_Med 17.44
4 West_Asian 11.85
5 East_Med 7.06
6 Siberian 1.43
7 Red_Sea 1.35
8 Amerindian 0.63
9 Northeast_African 0.62
10 South_Asian 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.64
2 Croatian 6.5
3 Hungarian 7.49
4 Serbian 8.75
5 Austrian 9.65
6 East_German 10.09
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.48
8 Romanian 11.67
9 South_Polish 12.3
10 Ukrainian 12.99
11 Bulgarian 14.04
12 Polish 15.54
13 West_German 16.3
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.95
15 Southwest_Russian 17.02
16 South_Dutch 17.45
17 Russian_Smolensk 18.09
18 North_German 18.94
19 Estonian_Polish 18.94
20 French 19.1

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.9% Moldavian + 10.1% French_Basque @ 3.84
2 85.9% Moldavian + 14.1% Southwest_English @ 4.13
3 86.1% Moldavian + 13.9% Irish @ 4.2
4 82% Moldavian + 18% South_Dutch @ 4.24
5 87% Moldavian + 13% Southwest_French @ 4.26
6 86.8% Moldavian + 13.2% West_Scottish @ 4.26
7 86.1% Moldavian + 13.9% Orcadian @ 4.32
8 81.5% Moldavian + 18.5% West_German @ 4.37
9 86% Moldavian + 14% Southeast_English @ 4.39
10 87.8% Moldavian + 12.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.4
11 84.1% Moldavian + 15.9% French @ 4.41
12 71.1% Moldavian + 28.9% Austrian @ 4.43
13 86.1% Moldavian + 13.9% North_Dutch @ 4.46
14 89.4% Moldavian + 10.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.51
15 88.6% Moldavian + 11.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.53
16 84.6% Moldavian + 15.4% North_German @ 4.54
17 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Norwegian @ 4.55
18 86.5% Moldavian + 13.5% Danish @ 4.56
19 73.1% Moldavian + 26.9% East_German @ 4.56
20 87.9% Moldavian + 12.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.61


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 21.4
2 Baltic 20.9
3 Eastern_Euro 13.94
4 West_Med 13.87
5 North_Sea 13.01
6 West_Asian 11.31
7 East_Med 2.79
8 Red_Sea 1.2
9 Siberian 0.65
10 Northeast_African 0.49
11 Amerindian 0.32
12 South_Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 8.49
2 Moldavian 9.99
3 Austrian 10.2
4 Serbian 11.75
5 Romanian 12.28
6 Hungarian 12.39
7 East_German 13.4
8 South_Polish 13.5
9 Bulgarian 13.56
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.26
11 Ukrainian 14.82
12 Russian_Smolensk 15.1
13 Polish 15.37
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.01
15 Southwest_Russian 16.74
16 Estonian_Polish 17.42
17 Belorussian 17.91
18 South_Dutch 19.23
19 Kargopol_Russian 19.6
20 Southwest_Finnish 19.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.09
2 86.4% Croatian + 13.6% French_Basque @ 7.13
3 81.1% Moldavian + 18.9% French_Basque @ 7.34
4 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% Southwest_French @ 7.41
5 83.9% Croatian + 16.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.44
6 84.8% Croatian + 15.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 7.52
7 60.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 39.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 7.53
8 91% Croatian + 9% Sardinian @ 7.53
9 85.8% Croatian + 14.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 7.57
10 85% Croatian + 15% Spanish_Cantabria @ 7.61
11 91% Croatian + 9% Balkar @ 7.62
12 91.7% Croatian + 8.3% North_Ossetian @ 7.64
13 85.3% Croatian + 14.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 7.66
14 92% Croatian + 8% Ossetian @ 7.68
15 91.1% Croatian + 8.9% Kabardin @ 7.68
16 58.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.3% Southwest_French @ 7.73
17 92% Croatian + 8% Adygei @ 7.76
18 93.5% Croatian + 6.5% Abhkasian @ 7.76
19 91.9% Croatian + 8.1% Chechen @ 7.81
20 62.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 37.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 7.83


Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 42.95
2 Atlantic_Med 27.04
3 Caucasus 18.07
4 Gedrosia 5.06
5 Southwest_Asian 3.39
6 Northwest_African 2.16
7 Siberian 1.26
8 East_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 5.75
2 German (Dodecad) 10.97
3 Romanians (Behar) 12.07
4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.91
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.21
6 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 16.19
7 Dutch (Dodecad) 17.41
8 French (Dodecad) 19.23
9 French (HGDP) 19.6
10 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 19.88
11 Kent (1000Genomes) 19.9
12 English (Dodecad) 20.09
13 Swedish (Dodecad) 20.76
14 Polish (Dodecad) 20.78
15 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 20.86
16 British_Isles (Dodecad) 21.09
17 Norwegian (Dodecad) 21.49
18 Argyll (1000Genomes) 22.16
19 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 22.29
20 British (Dodecad) 22.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 11.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.9
2 88.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 11.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.14
3 86.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 13.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.24
4 60.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 39.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.24
5 86.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 13.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.36
6 53.2% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 46.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.39
7 60.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 39.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.43
8 81.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 18.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.44
9 84.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 15.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.45
10 86.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 13.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.5
11 86.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 13.1% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.5
12 53.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 46.7% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.54
13 63.6% Romanians (Behar) + 36.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.62
14 59.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 40.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.63
15 50.2% North_Italian (HGDP) + 49.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.72
16 53.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 46.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.77
17 64.5% Romanians (Behar) + 35.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.83
18 84.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 15.3% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.86
19 84% Hungarians (Behar) + 16% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.88
20 90.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 9.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.88

[Jana]

Czech match of Slavonian Šokac I tested....actually quite less Slavic than her (and obv more western Euro/German)


Cousin_CZ,33.58,32.99,15.14,5.94,9.53,0,1.61,0.25, 0.58,0,0.05,0,0.32

Distance to: Cousin_CZ

3.10808942 Hungarian_Transdanubia
3.27418692 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
3.33135919 Hungarian_Budapest
3.97729861 Hungarian
4.08344218 Croat_Croatia_Central
4.22063976 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
4.33970856 Slovenian
4.37171180 Hungarian_Northern
5.04537154 Hungarian_Alfold
5.11483138 East_German
5.48047443 Austrian
5.69629704 Czech
5.83827029 Croat_Croatia
5.87742653 Slovak
6.24024839 Croat
7.27712168 Croat_Slavonia
7.78182498 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
7.90090649 Hungarian_Transylvania
8.05702178 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
8.51063926 Hungarian_Szekely
8.64363928 Croat_B&H
8.72246525 Moldova_North
8.76015411 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
8.83880648 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
9.14949179 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia

Target: Cousin_CZ
Distance: 1.5572% / 1.55722014 | ADC: 0.25x

38.2 Hungarian_Northern
32.6 East_German
27.0 Hungarian_Transdanubia
2.2 Sardinian

Target: Cousin_CZ
Distance: 2.6940% / 2.69398396

50.2 Early_Slavic
24.6 Early_Germanic
22.8 Paleo-Balkan
2.2 Romanized_Balkan
0.2 Greco-Roman

Original gedmatch run:
Admix Results (sorted):

1 North_Atlantic 33.58
2 Baltic 32.99
3 West_Med 15.14
4 East_Med 9.53
5 West_Asian 5.94
6 South_Asian 1.61
7 Siberian 0.58
8 Sub-Saharan 0.32
9 East_Asian 0.25
10 Oceanian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

1 Hungarian 3.48
2 East_German 4.45
3 Austrian 4.83
4 Croatian 6.69
5 Moldavian 8.89
6 South_Polish 9.63
7 Serbian 10.01
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.88
9 Ukrainian 11.58
10 West_German 12.64
11 Polish 13.26
12 South_Dutch 13.72
13 Romanian 14.25
14 North_German 14.34
15 North_Swedish 14.61
16 Southwest_Finnish 15.57
17 Swedish 15.83
18 Southwest_Russian 15.94
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.38
20 Russian_Smolensk 16.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 71.9% South_Polish + 28.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.47
2 70.1% South_Polish + 29.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.58
3 72.3% South_Polish + 27.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.78
4 73.4% South_Polish + 26.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.79
5 57.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 42.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.96
6 70.4% South_Polish + 29.6% Portuguese @ 2.01
7 73% South_Polish + 27% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.06
8 58.5% Southwest_Russian + 41.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.08
9 72.1% South_Polish + 27.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.08
10 71.3% South_Polish + 28.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.13
11 59.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.2
12 74.6% South_Polish + 25.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.22
13 73.5% Croatian + 26.5% Southeast_English @ 2.26
14 59.1% Ukrainian + 40.9% French @ 2.33
15 70.3% South_Polish + 29.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.35
16 69.6% East_German + 30.4% Moldavian @ 2.4
17 62.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 37.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.42
18 62.6% East_German + 37.4% Croatian @ 2.43
19 59.9% Austrian + 40.1% Croatian @ 2.45
20 72.3% South_Polish + 27.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.54

[Mingle]

CommonSense posted the results of some Bosniak samples before:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299002-South-Slavic-amp-neighbours-Eurogenes-results&p=6627793&viewfull=1#post6627793

I finally found out which regions they have ancestry from:

Nurovic - Novi Pazar
Becirovic - Tutin
Tutic - Tutin
Elfic - Novi Pazar
Marovac - Novi Pazar
Balkan - Rožaje
Fetic - Bijelo Polje
Memic - Novi Pazar
Mujagic - Sjenica

Kurbegovic - Gornji Vakuf
Softic - Podrinje (B&H)

They said the information could be found here and this is where I got their locations from: https://bosnjackidnk.com/baza-bez-markera/

New K13 average (n=16):

Bosniak_Sandzak,23.93,24.79,19.06,10.47,18.07,1.75 ,0.20,0.40,0.46,0.55,0.23,0.02,0.06

[Ion Basescul]

Kosovar



# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.97
2 Baltic 19.74
3 West_Med 19.45
4 North_Atlantic 18.56
5 West_Asian 14.76
6 Red_Sea 1.96
7 Amerindian 0.84
8 East_Asian 0.58
9 South_Asian 0.07
10 Siberian 0.07


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.81
2 Bulgarian 6.45
3 Romanian 9.12
4 Central_Greek 10.23
5 Italian_Abruzzo 11.17
6 East_Sicilian 11.95
7 West_Sicilian 13.01
8 Tuscan 13.36
9 Serbian 13.59
10 Ashkenazi 14.01
11 South_Italian 14.72
12 North_Italian 16.47
13 Moldavian 18.65
14 Algerian_Jewish 20.57
15 Italian_Jewish 20.65
16 Sephardic_Jewish 20.72
17 Hungarian 21.73
18 Croatian 21.8
19 Portuguese 24
20 Turkish 24.1


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.3% Bulgarian + 19.7% Cyprian @ 2.06
2 62.4% Bulgarian + 37.6% Central_Greek @ 2.38
3 76.3% Central_Greek + 23.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.62
4 71.2% Bulgarian + 28.8% South_Italian @ 2.7
5 76.3% Central_Greek + 23.7% Southwest_Russian @ 2.78
6 84.3% Bulgarian + 15.7% Assyrian @ 2.82
7 84.8% Bulgarian + 15.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.82
8 74.8% Central_Greek + 25.2% Ukrainian @ 2.84
9 82.5% Bulgarian + 17.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.86
10 74.1% Romanian + 25.9% Cyprian @ 2.86
11 80.2% Central_Greek + 19.8% Lithuanian @ 2.95
12 85.2% Bulgarian + 14.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.97
13 66.9% Bulgarian + 33.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.97
14 65.3% Central_Greek + 34.7% Moldavian @ 2.98
15 84.9% Bulgarian + 15.1% Armenian @ 2.98
16 68.8% South_Italian + 31.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.01
17 84.7% Bulgarian + 15.3% Samaritan @ 3.03
18 77.7% Central_Greek + 22.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.05
19 78% Central_Greek + 22% Estonian_Polish @ 3.11
20 84.9% Bulgarian + 15.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.15

[Jana]

Croat fully from Lika, from place Podlapača on legendary Krbava field (where Croatian Kingdom was defeated by Ottoman Empire) near Udbina.
What is interesting is that this place is Croatian Čakavian enclave (dialect spoken before the Ottomans), which could explain this lady's highly Slavic results.


Podlapača ima za stanovnike starosjedilačke Hrvate čakavske loze
https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podlapa%C4%8Da

Distance to: Croat_Lika_Podlapača

3.80009210 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
4.22996454 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
5.14803846 Moldova_North
5.40021296 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
5.41104426 Croat_Slavonia
5.48501595 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
5.63620440 Croat
5.78443601 Croat_Croatia
5.81612414 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
5.94818460 Croat_B&H
6.23563950 Hungarian_Alfold
6.23723496 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
6.45279009 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
6.56486862 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.75002222 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
6.97159064 Bosniak_Sarajevo
7.34250638 Bosniak
7.42961641 Slovenian
7.60777234 Hungarian
7.65873535 Slovak
7.76459271 Hungarian_Northern
7.78428545 Serb_B&H
8.29729474 Romania_Maramures
8.31400024 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
8.33926256 Serb_B&H_Krajina

Target: Croat_Lika_Podlapača
Distance: 1.9530% / 1.95303884 | ADC: 0.25x

82.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
6.8 Bulgarian_Northwest
6.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
4.2 Sardinian

Original K13 results

1 Baltic 37.09
2 North_Atlantic 25.35
3 West_Med 16.92
4 East_Med 11.28
5 West_Asian 6.31
6 Red_Sea 1.57
7 Siberian 0.92
8 Sub-Saharan 0.3
9 East_Asian 0.16
10 Northeast_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

1 Croatian 3.84
2 Moldavian 5.11
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.41
4 Hungarian 8.83
5 Ukrainian 9.17
6 South_Polish 9.45
7 Serbian 10.01
8 East_German 12.31
9 Polish 12.4
10 Austrian 12.64
11 Southwest_Russian 12.84
12 Romanian 13.34
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.42
14 Russian_Smolensk 14.31
15 Estonian_Polish 14.57
16 Bulgarian 15.01
17 Belorussian 15.38
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.97
19 Erzya 18.67
20 Southwest_Finnish 18.69

Her results are similar to Croat from Brinje (also in Lika) Commonsense found, but that one was part Slavonian while this one is fully from Lika. Interestingly colonised to Slavonia in 1930s.

[Jana]

Her son, half autochtonous Slavonian Croat (so my guess is his father is Šokac). I2 haplogroup.

1 Baltic 34.04
2 North_Atlantic 30.12
3 West_Med 14.67
4 East_Med 12.49
5 West_Asian 4.89
6 Siberian 1.69
7 South_Asian 1.16
8 Red_Sea 0.9
9 Oceanian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.61
2 Croatian 5.19
3 Moldavian 6.92
4 Serbian 8.34
5 Austrian 8.47
6 East_German 8.52
7 South_Polish 9.63
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.19
9 Ukrainian 10.88
10 Romanian 12.52
11 Polish 13.32
12 Southwest_Russian 14.69
13 Bulgarian 14.92
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.43
15 West_German 15.82
16 Russian_Smolensk 15.88
17 Estonian_Polish 16.08
18 Belorussian 16.41
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.78
20 South_Dutch 17

Distance to: Croat_Slavonia+Lika

3.19020376 Hungarian_Alfold
3.50907395 Hungarian
3.85952070 Croat_Croatia
3.92988549 Slovenian
3.93118303 Croat
4.26973067 Hungarian_Budapest
4.29920923 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
4.40791334 Hungarian_Northern
4.42997743 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
4.46815398 Hungarian_Transdanubia
4.59795607 Croat_Slavonia
4.92902627 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
5.05794425 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
5.56115995 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
5.79466996 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
5.94897470 Croat_B&H
6.09366064 Moldova_North
6.14035675 Slovak
6.16541158 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
6.23636914 Hungarian_Transylvania
6.33705768 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.48023148 Hungarian_Csango
6.59313279 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
6.62218242 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
6.92408839 Hungarian_Szekely

Target: Croat_Slavonia+Lika
Distance: 1.6506% / 1.65060336 | ADC: 0.25x

42.8 Hungarian_Northern
30.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
15.8 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
10.6 Swiss_Italian

[Chris596]

Kosovar


His/Her East-Med is quite high, no? Albanian? My East Med admix is 18.48 Pct using my original Myheritage data.

[Ion Basescul]

His/Her East-Med is quite high, no? Albanian? My East Med admix is 18.48 Pct using my original Myheritage data.

People from Kosovo speak Albanian mostly.

[Jana]

His/Her East-Med is quite high, no? Albanian? My East Med admix is 18.48 Pct using my original Myheritage data.

Yes, it is surely ethnic Albanian result.

[Jana]

75% Croat 25% Magyar. One parent of this person is Herzegovina Croat, while other is half Hungarian and other half is from somewhere in Panonnian Croatia I presume.

1 Baltic 35.07
2 North_Atlantic 31.70
3 West_Med 12.07
4 West_Asian 8.42
5 East_Med 8.32
6 South_Asian 1.27
7 Siberian 1.20
8 East_Asian 1.07


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 4.483219
2 Croatian @ 5.731112
3 East_German @ 7.650768
4 South_Polish @ 7.685582
5 Austrian @ 8.372961
6 Moldavian @ 8.547395
7 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 8.936377
8 Ukrainian @ 10.021129
9 Polish @ 12.126603
10 Serbian @ 12.539852
11 Southwest_Russian @ 14.309325
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 14.524445
13 Russian_Smolensk @ 15.301427
14 Southwest_Finnish @ 15.815742
15 Estonian_Polish @ 16.124928
16 Belorussian @ 16.305986
17 North_Swedish @ 16.429333
18 Romanian @ 17.311863
19 West_German @ 17.406702
20 North_German @ 17.978176

Distance to: Croat_1/4_Hungarian

2.58253751 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
3.05347343 Hungarian_Northern
3.69262002 Slovak
3.93634348 Slovenian
4.25435071 Czech
4.41825758 Hungarian_Budapest
4.50950108 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
4.77288173 Hungarian
4.89948977 Hungarian_Transdanubia
5.13232891 Hungarian_Alfold
5.76247343 Croat_Croatia
6.19044425 Croat
6.22759986 Croat_Slavonia
7.26461286 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
7.34439923 German_east
7.63531925 Moldova_North
7.64071986 East_German
7.68930426 South_Polish
7.78131094 Sorb_Lusatia
8.04905585 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
8.36128579 Austrian
8.37709377 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
8.52369052 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
8.61600255 Hungarian_Transylvania
8.97649709 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia

Target: Croat_1/4_Hungarian
Distance: 1.5235% / 1.52345134 | ADC: 0.25x

33.6 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
33.4 Hungarian_Northern
22.8 Czech
4.4 South_Polish
3.0 Tabassaran
2.0 North-Swedish
0.8 Uygur

[Jana]

Croat from Bosnian Posavina. E-V13 (E-BY15410) haplogroup.

Admix Results (sorted):

1 Baltic 35.67
2 North_Atlantic 25.89
3 West_Med 14.55
4 East_Med 13.31
5 West_Asian 8.83
6 Red_Sea 0.8
7 East_Asian 0.66
8 Oceanian 0.16
9 Amerindian 0.09
10 Siberian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

1 Croatian 3.9
2 Moldavian 4.08
3 Hungarian 7.59
4 Serbian 8.03
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.56
6 South_Polish 10.06
7 Ukrainian 10.42
8 Romanian 11.34
9 Austrian 12.03
10 East_German 12.26
11 Bulgarian 13.05
12 Southwest_Russian 13.52
13 Polish 13.52
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.75
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.35
16 Estonian_Polish 15.86
17 Belorussian 16.39
18 Kargopol_Russian 18.25
19 Southwest_Finnish 19.53
20 West_German 19.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 61.7% Bulgarian + 38.3% Lithuanian @ 1.94
2 50.9% Bulgarian + 49.1% Polish @ 1.96
3 55.8% Ukrainian + 44.2% Bulgarian @ 1.97
4 55.8% Bulgarian + 44.2% Belorussian @ 1.97
5 54.1% Bulgarian + 45.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.07
6 56.7% South_Polish + 43.3% Bulgarian @ 2.08
7 55% Bulgarian + 45% Estonian_Polish @ 2.14
8 65.1% Romanian + 34.9% Lithuanian @ 2.17
9 73.9% Ukrainian + 26.1% Central_Greek @ 2.33
10 58.6% Romanian + 41.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.37
11 59.4% Romanian + 40.6% Belorussian @ 2.4
12 57.8% Romanian + 42.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.41
13 52.2% Ukrainian + 47.8% Romanian @ 2.41
14 76.6% Ukrainian + 23.4% South_Italian @ 2.42
15 65.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 34.1% Tuscan @ 2.42
16 68.3% Ukrainian + 31.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.45
17 81.6% South_Polish + 18.4% Cyprian @ 2.49
18 74.8% Ukrainian + 25.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.57
19 69.1% South_Polish + 30.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.57
20 73.6% Ukrainian + 26.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.6

Distance to: Croat_Bosnian_Posavina

2.61380948 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
3.44377700 Croat_Slavonia
3.52759125 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
3.54582854 Moldova_North
3.59357760 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
3.72857882 Croat_B&H
3.78553827 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
4.12983050 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
4.18157865 Croat
4.48656884 Croat_Croatia
4.50724972 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
4.52539751 Bosniak_Sarajevo
4.60359642 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
5.00319898 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
5.17219489 Bosniak
5.27802046 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
5.43996324 Hungarian_Alfold
5.90942468 Serb_B&H
6.54485294 Serb_B&H_Krajina
6.61500567 Romania_Moldavia_North
6.69325780 Romania_Maramures
6.70162667 Hungarian
6.99271764 Moldova_average
7.02506228 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
7.15188087 Serb_Serbia_West&Central

Target: Croat_Bosnian_Posavina
Distance: 1.5213% / 1.52129654 | ADC: 0.25x

47.6 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner
29.0 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
14.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod
6.6 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
2.8 Bulgarian_Ruse