Are you related to King of France Louis XIV? I am

[tipirneni]

King of France 1774 Louis XVI shows up on my timeline
https://i.imgur.com/VQ23hRv.jpg

[Armenian Bishop]

I'm not directly related to King Lious XIV, but 23andMe notified me that I share the exact same Haplogroup with King Lious XVI. My Paternal Haplogroup is R-M405 (also known as R1b1b2a1a1).
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMVK3a0SrmcDYSyjWR3rIGdDd8_9mzeOHAQdz_G/edit

[tipirneni]

I'm not directly related to King Lious XIV, but 23andMe notified me that I share the exact same Haplogroup with King Lious XVI. My Paternal Haplogroup is R-M405 (also known as R1b1b2a1a1).
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMVK3a0SrmcDYSyjWR3rIGdDd8_9mzeOHAQdz_G/edit

Armenia Strong. We share strong relationship during Bronze Age and Before. Many Indian Hindu warriors were reputed to be Armenian but aDNA is lacking.

I also get Armenian matches showing up on the DNA matches section of myHeritage & Ancestry

[tipirneni]

The relation showing up probably is related to link of my caste with Commagene. Commagene has been characterized as a "buffer state" between Armenia, Parthia, Syria, and Rome. The Commagene people were supposed to be queens for Parthian state. These Parthians were involved in the building new state of Pallava in South India where I am from. I also get some Selucid showing up along with Parthians and Saka.

https://i1.wp.com/www.peopleofar.com/wp-content/uploads/coins-of-Antiochus-I-and-Tigranes-II1.jpg?fit=606%2C283&ssl=1
https://i2.wp.com/www.peopleofar.com/wp-content/uploads/Coin-of-Artavasdes-II-of-Armenia-1.jpg?resize=300%2C298&ssl=1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dfn5zWtWkAIxytu.jpg:large

Kingdom of Pallava were extensive in South India during 2nd CE to 9 CE.

https://images.assettype.com/indynetwork%2F2017-09%2Ffa63d851-d5ea-4e1d-95f5-1c7aa9395095%2FChola-Kingdom-Map-768x550.jpg?auto=format&q=35&w=1200&h=675

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXnVDKoL5xY
Rashtrakutas were also similar people who came in after the demise of Pallavas in my area. People show up some Armenoid influences in that area.

https://www.examrace.com/Study-Material/History/NCERT-Lectures/posts/NCERT-Class-7-History-Chapter-2-YouTube-Lecture-Handouts/Image-of-Specify-New-Kings-And-Kingdoms-In-Map.png

Chances of one of the above 2 is pretty high.

[**JC**]

Relic French King Louis XVI 1793 AD LXVI

mtDNA: N1b Y-DNA: G2a
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 69)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs)
Largest chain: 135 SNPs

Your raw DNA is 32 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 6 135 SNPs

[JamesBond007]

King of France 1774 Louis XVI shows up on my timeline


No, I am related to the Merovingian noble(s) the last true royalty/arisotcracy of France , according to the late Prince Nicholas De Vere Von Drakenberg. Everyone after the Merovingians were puppets of the Catholic church and the heirs of the donation of Constantine thus false aristocracy not of the true Draco Sentien royal/aristocratic bloodline .

[Gaditanian]

Almost...

https://fotos.subefotos.com/8065f6d3140af593ec645c3f25c3fbf5o.jpg

[Armenian Bishop]

I see people whom claim a connection to King Louis XVI via their G Haplogroups, but 23andMe disagrees with that version; instead, the King's Haplogroup was probably R1b1b2a1a1 (R-M343), based upon detailed studies from the King's living relatives.

Apparently, the previous G Haplogroup Results were ruled out, and discredited. So yea, my R1b Haplogroiup exactly matches that of living descendants from the House of Bourbon.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3992573/

Three living male relatives of Henri IV and Louis XVI were selected for this study ... The three Bourbon males were correctly assigned to the main Y-chromosomal haplogroup R1b (R-M343) using the Whit Athey's Haplogroup Predictor as it was confirmed by Y-SNP typing. The individuals were further assigned to sub-haplogroup R1b1b2a1a1b.

[calxpal]

According to Mytrueancestry I guess so..... ;)
https://i.ibb.co/KX16VzZ/Capturekingl.jpg

[Armenian Bishop]

According to Mytrueancestry I guess so..... ;)
https://i.ibb.co/KX16VzZ/Capturekingl.jpg

Well, keep guessing. Clearly, the YDNA Haplogroup from King Louis XVI has been shrouded in controversy. Anyway, if some people are so sure about it, then they should write to 23andMe. Here's the notification I got from them:


You share a paternal-line ancestor with King Louis XVI.

The rule of France by men of the House of Bourbon began with King Henri IV in 1589 C.E. and continued until the beheading of his direct paternal descendant King Louis XVI in 1793. Several years ago, researchers analyzed a mummified head and a blood-soaked cloth that they believed might belong to the two kings, and concluded that the royal paternal line belonged to haplogroup G. In a more recent study, however, a different set of researchers tested three living men who are direct descendants of the Bourbon kings. Their efforts revealed that the male lineage of the House of Bourbon is actually a branch of haplogroup R-M405, from which your paternal line also stems.

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMVK3a0SrmcDYSyjWR3rIGdDd8_9mzeOHAQdz_G/edit

[**JC**]

There's no doubt the DNA is NOT from the French king.

This is the "kings" ancestry according to MTA

Roman Outlier Lombard Grave
590 AD SZ1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 100)
4 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 57.84 cM
Largest segment=205 SNPs / 17.24 cM
Your raw DNA is 1 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
120 SNPs
Chr. 8
133 SNPs
Chr. 12
205 SNPs
Chr. 18
126 SNPs

Protovillanovia Martinsicuro
930 BC R1
mtDNA: U5a2b
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 94)
3 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 40.69 cM
Largest segment=166 SNPs / 16.03 cM
Your raw DNA is 20 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
166 SNPs
Chr. 8
106 SNPs
Chr. 18
126 SNPs

Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance
1650 AD R969
mtDNA: U5bY-DNA: J2a1b
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 83)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 15.06 cM
Largest segment=183 SNPs / 15.06 cM
Your raw DNA is 28 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
183 SNPs

Thraco-Cimmerian Black Sea
900 BC MJ12
mtDNA: H35
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 18)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 12.08 cM
Largest segment=130 SNPs / 12.08 cM
Your raw DNA is 34 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 16
130 SNPs

Late Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1485 AD R1221
mtDNA: H1e2Y-DNA: J2a1h2a1
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 63)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 18.93 cM
Largest segment=122 SNPs / 11.18 cM
Your raw DNA is 51 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
108 SNPs
Chr. 6
122 SNPs

Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital
500 AD R36
mtDNA: T1a1Y-DNA: R1b1a2a1a2b3c
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 63)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 11.14 cM
Largest segment=137 SNPs / 11.14 cM
Your raw DNA is 20 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
137 SNPs

Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica
1350 AD R1290
mtDNA: H1c3a
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 57)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 8.9 cM
Largest segment=166 SNPs / 8.9 cM
Your raw DNA is 41 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 12
166 SNPs

Etruscan Civitavecchia
650 BC R474
mtDNA: HY-DNA: J-M12
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 62)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 8.75 cM
Largest segment=131 SNPs / 8.75 cM
Your raw DNA is 30 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 12
131 SNPs

Imperial Rome Mausoleo Augusto
500 AD R33
mtDNA: K1aY-DNA: R1b1a2a1a2
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 70)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 8.48 cM
Largest segment=120 SNPs / 8.48 cM
Your raw DNA is 20 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 12
120 SNPs

Roman Mix San Ercolano
500 AD R118
mtDNA: H1e1aY-DNA: H2
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 41)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 13.84 cM
Largest segment=150 SNPs / 8.26 cM
Your raw DNA is 53 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
150 SNPs
Chr. 11
126 SNPs

Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy
1355 AD R54
mtDNA: H4a1Y-DNA: J2b2
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 49)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 6.65 cM
Largest segment=106 SNPs / 6.65 cM
Your raw DNA is 10 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 12
106 SNPs

Central Roman
590 AD SZ32
mtDNA: H74 ?
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 17)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 4.11 cM
Largest segment=115 SNPs / 4.11 cM
Your raw DNA is 34 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 2
115 SNPs

Gallo-Roman Lombard Grave
580 AD CL94
mtDNA: K1c1Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2f
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 19)
2 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 7.55 cM
Largest segment=163 SNPs / 3.99 cM
Your raw DNA is 60 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 12
163 SNPs
Chr. 20
111 SNPs

Central Roman
580 AD CL121
mtDNA: T2Y-DNA: R1b1a2a2
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 19)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 3.44 cM
Largest segment=153 SNPs / 3.44 cM
Your raw DNA is 33 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 11
153 SNPs

Proto Thracian/Illyrian Vucedol
2775 BC I3499
mtDNA: T2eY-DNA: R1b1a1a2a2
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 19)
1 SNP chain (min. 60 SNPs) / 1.72 cM
Largest segment=134 SNPs / 1.72 cM
Your raw DNA is 60 % closer than other matching users
Chr. 8
134 SNPs

Totally West Med
Barely a hint of Frank/Germanic DNA

[**JC**]

Well, keep guessing. Clearly, the YDNA Haplogroup from King Louis XVI has been shrouded in controversy. Anyway, if some people are so sure about it, then they should write to 23andMe. Here's the notification I got from them:


You share a paternal-line ancestor with King Louis XVI.

The rule of France by men of the House of Bourbon began with King Henri IV in 1589 C.E. and continued until the beheading of his direct paternal descendant King Louis XVI in 1793. Several years ago, researchers analyzed a mummified head and a blood-soaked cloth that they believed might belong to the two kings, and concluded that the royal paternal line belonged to haplogroup G. In a more recent study, however, a different set of researchers tested three living men who are direct descendants of the Bourbon kings. Their efforts revealed that the male lineage of the House of Bourbon is actually a branch of haplogroup R-M405, from which your paternal line also stems.

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMVK3a0SrmcDYSyjWR3rIGdDd8_9mzeOHAQdz_G/edit

Looks like we share a similar paternal lineage, this is mine.
R-Z344 My paternal clade
R-Z1
R-Z8
R-Z7
R-Z2
R-Z30
R-Z9
R-L48
R-Z301
R-Z381 House of Bourbon
R-U106

[Lousianaboy]

no but im related to venetian noble stock and rich people in Caribbean islands, my last name is delfin

[Malagueña]

Almost...

https://fotos.subefotos.com/8065f6d3140af593ec645c3f25c3fbf5o.jpg

Quien diría que quien más cercanía tiene con Luis XVI del Post iba a ser un gaditano xD

[Dr_Maul]

Damn, they straight up hit me with the 'you do not match this sample' lol
I did get these tho

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[Halgurd]

Damn, they straight up hit me with the 'you do not match this sample' lol
I did get these tho

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Check your deep dive results. It will actually tell you whether or not you share specific DNA segments with ancients, meaning you are related to them.

I found out I have an Alan relative

https://i.ibb.co/K73fxR6/8-DA5-D451-1891-4-F26-A2-CA-870351-B1-F426.jpg

Link to paper: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2018/03/31/292581.DC1/292581-1.pdf

reminds me of my match to Andronovo RISE 503 on gedmatch

With RISE 503 (Andronovo)

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 300 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 150 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
16 1,187,607 2,582,219 3.3 382
Largest segment = 3.3 cM
Total of segments > 3 cM = 3.3 cM
1 matching segments

213247 SNPs used for this comparison.

[TheMaestro]

People believing into this website have to be truly mentally retarted. A fucking almost non existed org will very certainly have samples from all around of world from ancient tribes, dont worry. Their website also looks like a high school project.

[Halgurd]

People believing into this website have to be truly mentally retarted. A fucking almost non existed org will very certainly have samples from all around of world from ancient tribes, dont worry. Their website also looks like a high school project.

Most of the website yes, since all they do is compare your results with results of ancients and if you get a close match they falsely say that they're your ancestor lol.

but the deep dive section seems legit to me because they show you shared dna segments and they give the link for the paper they find the samples from so if you're genuinely related to an ancient it should show up there. gedmatch has the same feature

[Gallop]

These almost consecutive weekly results were very tragic end.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-38GFyUZtMaU/XnWo5By-EzI/AAAAAAAADQ0/l-fl2yH5u9wKDsLrIdoRrO-tJnczZC8QwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Lu%25C3%25ADs16.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Of0ZO-0p_qg/Xmz8Lj6CXoI/AAAAAAAADNQ/fj76qSy2CLMIwASnlJlSykokDaVzmOLGgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/JeanPaulMarat.jpeg

https://elpais.com/ccaa/imagenes/2014/11/15/catalunya/1416082512_178457_1416082665_noticia_grande.jpg

144. Pre-Roman Ullastret Girona (280 BC) ..... 17.5 - I3324 -
Top 99 % match vs all users

237. Pre-Roman Ullastret Girona (280 BC) ..... 21.43 - I3323 -
Top 99 % match vs all users


Soy gaditano.

[Javiberius]

Most of the website yes, since all they do is compare your results with results of ancients and if you get a close match they falsely say that they're your ancestor lol.


They don’t really say that! For example, if you were to share dna with and Ancient sample, they don’t exactly say that they’re your “ancestors”, what they do say is that those samples, if related, are your “ancient relatives”. Though the website never say“ancestors”, or maybe they do so, but not to my knowledge.

[Halgurd]

They don’t really say that! For example, if you were to share dna with and Ancient sample, they don’t exactly say that they’re your “ancestors”, what they do say is that those samples, if related, are your “ancient relatives”. Though the website never say“ancestors”, or maybe they do so, but not to my knowledge.

Either way its a misleading website

[Zoro]

They don’t really say that! For example, if you were to share dna with and Ancient sample, they don’t exactly say that they’re your “ancestors”, what they do say is that those samples, if related, are your “ancient relatives”. Though the website never say“ancestors”, or maybe they do so, but not to my knowledge.

That’s because saying that you inherited a specific segment from a specific ancient is very difficult and beyond their technical capabilities. I share segments with chimpanzees, pygmy africans, stuttgart etc. does that mean i have ancestry from them within the last 3000 years. Of course not.

For example at EurasianDNA it’s not enough that 2 samples share a segment. First they phase all genomes to figure out which segments you got from dad vs mom. Then they check size of segment vs how rare the shared segment is. For example if it’s a very common segment and many people share it with the ancient then it’s not given as much importance as much as the more rare segments that few people share. All these analysis are scored and combined to come up with a confidence score.

Also comparisons are not usually made unless both samples have a big marker overlap. The other problem is over 95% of available ancient samples are haploids. Less than 5% are the more accurate diploid samples

[Javiberius]

That’s because saying that you inherited a specific segment from a specific ancient is very difficult and beyond their technical capabilities. I share segments with chimpanzees, pygmy africans, stuttgart etc. does that mean i have ancestry from them within the last 3000 years. Of course not.

That is exactly what I was trying to emphasize in my earliest post here on this thread. However, you also gave me good examples in your other two paragraphs. Idk to be honest with you, but I have mixed feelings about Mytrueancestry.

[**JC**]

Myfakeancestry is a fun little website to futz about in, I'll always use gedmatch etc. for an overall view of my ancestry.
I think MTA is aimed more at North West Euros, it seems pretty accurate for me personally, especially my mothers ancestry she has strong Celt/ Gaelic/Norse ties which makes perfect sense here.

[Gaditanian]

Quien diría que quien más cercanía tiene con Luis XVI del Post iba a ser un gaditano xD

Porque gaditanos, malagueños o cualquier otro andaluz, no tenemos nuestras raíces en Andalucía, sino en el tercio norte peninsular debido a la Reconquista.

Conforme los Reinos Cristianos empujaban hacia el sur a los musulmanes, se iban repoblando con estos nuevos colonos norteños.

Esto, hasta hace poco era historia que aunque defendida por los propios historiadores (que para algo son los expertos), también ha sido desmentida de forma totalmente paranoica y desmedida, tanto por aquellos pobrecitos mentales que ensoñan una nación Andaluza y por tanto unas raíces con un Al-Andalus que no les pertenece como por nacionalistas castellanos que se niegan a aceptar a los andaluces como parte del mismo pueblo.

Por suerte, los últimos análisis genéticos han venido para dar un gran zas en toda la boca a ambos bandos negacionistas del origen real de los andaluces.

https://fotos00.laopiniondezamora.es/2018/04/08/1024x341/huella-zamorana-1.jpg

De hecho, estos análisis por ejemplo en tu caso, hacen mucha pupa a los malagueños, ya que los sitúa en la órbita del Reino Castellano de Sevilla, y no en el Reino de Granada como tantísimos erran al identificarse.

Pero vamos, no hay que ser ningún historiador y ni genetista, para ver el acento de un malagueño y darse cuenta que tiene más que ver con el acento del oeste de andalucía de Cádiz-Huelva-Sevilla que con el acento oriental de Córdoba-Jaen-Granada-Almería.

https://www.laopiniondezamora.es/zamora/2018/04/08/huella-zamorana-llega-cadiz/1075831.html

[Javiberius]

https://i.postimg.cc/3Rdj6zzW/6-B15-B006-2-D9-A-4768-B3-FC-267-CBD4-FD3-D9.png (https://postimg.cc/Hc178vYC)

[Dr_Maul]

Check your deep dive results. It will actually tell you whether or not you share specific DNA segments with ancients, meaning you are related to them.

I found out I have an Alan relative



Interesting

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[Halgurd]

Interesting

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I got the same match as well with this individual but yours is a stronger match. Mine is 3SNP chains largest chain being 167SNPs.
Would be interesting to see what other Iranic members get.

[Malagueña]

Porque gaditanos, malagueños o cualquier otro andaluz, no tenemos nuestras raíces en Andalucía, sino en el tercio norte peninsular debido a la Reconquista.

Conforme los Reinos Cristianos empujaban hacia el sur a los musulmanes, se iban repoblando con estos nuevos colonos norteños.

Esto, hasta hace poco era historia que aunque defendida por los propios historiadores (que para algo son los expertos), también ha sido desmentida de forma totalmente paranoica y desmedida, tanto por aquellos pobrecitos mentales que ensoñan una nación Andaluza y por tanto unas raíces con un Al-Andalus que no les pertenece como por nacionalistas castellanos que se niegan a aceptar a los andaluces como parte del mismo pueblo.

Por suerte, los últimos análisis genéticos han venido para dar un gran zas en toda la boca a ambos bandos negacionistas del origen real de los andaluces.

https://fotos00.laopiniondezamora.es/2018/04/08/1024x341/huella-zamorana-1.jpg

De hecho, estos análisis por ejemplo en tu caso, hacen mucha pupa a los malagueños, ya que los sitúa en la órbita del Reino Castellano de Sevilla, y no en el Reino de Granada como tantísimos erran al identificarse.

Pero vamos, no hay que ser ningún historiador y ni genetista, para ver el acento de un malagueño y darse cuenta que tiene más que ver con el acento del oeste de andalucía de Cádiz-Huelva-Sevilla que con el acento oriental de Córdoba-Jaen-Granada-Almería.

https://www.laopiniondezamora.es/zamora/2018/04/08/huella-zamorana-llega-cadiz/1075831.html

¡Totalmente de acuerdo! Hay ciertos nacionalistas que son unos aunténticos trasnochados :rotfl:
De hecho, en el mismo estudio que me comentas se demostró que donde más rastro genético musulmán hay de la península no es en ningún lugar de Andalucía ni el sur, sino en la zona de León, por movimientos medievales (Por ej, las villas de Peleas de Arriba y Abajo se llaman así por los conflictos ocurridos en la zona entre cristianos y musulmanes)
¡Un Saludo y Gracias por el comentario! :thumb001:

[Armenian Bishop]

https://i.postimg.cc/3Rdj6zzW/6-B15-B006-2-D9-A-4768-B3-FC-267-CBD4-FD3-D9.png (https://postimg.cc/Hc178vYC)

Nope, it's shrouded in controversy. Living direct male-line descendants from the House of Bourbon (related to King Louis XVI) are R1b1b2a1a1 (my Haplogroup R-M405).

[TheMaestro]

Nope and you are neither.

[**JC**]

Yep, whoever that blood in the gourd came from it wasn't Louis XVI.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3992573/
The three Bourbon males were correctly assigned to the main Y-chromosomal haplogroup R1b (R-M343) using the Whit Athey's Haplogroup Predictor as it was confirmed by Y-SNP typing. The individuals were further assigned to sub-haplogroup R1b1b2a1a1b* (R-Z381*) based on the latest update of the Y-chromosomal phylogenetic tree of AMY 1.2.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3992573/table/tbl1/?report=objectonly

[Chaos One]

It seems that more and more the only thing you can use at this site is the Sample Breakdown...

[Rædwald]

https://i.postimg.cc/V5PmcY0k/Capture.png

[Coastal Elite]

No, I am related to the Merovingian noble(s) the last true royalty/arisotcracy of France , according to the late Prince Nicholas De Vere Von Drakenberg. Everyone after the Merovingians were puppets of the Catholic church and the heirs of the donation of Constantine thus false aristocracy not of the true Draco Sentien royal/aristocratic bloodline .

I can only imagine there are others familiar with the book The Dragon Legacy by Nicholas De Vere. I've read the book. On what grounds are you related?

[Javiberius]

Nope, it's shrouded in controversy. Living direct male-line descendants from the House of Bourbon (related to King Louis XVI) are R1b1b2a1a1 (my Haplogroup R-M405).

If it’s shrouded in controversy, why still assume it’s R1b then. It still doesn’t sound like a sure thing from the sound of things. Maybe there was some unfaithful marriages down the line. I suspect Marie Antoinette wasn’t faithful to her husband. I’ve read she’s had some other lovers, is this not true?