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Jana
04-28-2020, 02:25 PM
Delete all Croatian K13 averages I made. I made them and I have right to demand their removal.
You can use whatever average you want but not mine.

I don't want to take part in this calculator anymore.

And I won't change my opinion. Delete them all.

Thank you.

Leto
04-28-2020, 02:29 PM
Why? Your Croatian averages are pretty good. And Luke just adds everything people ask him to do. Of course he won't add something that's totally out there but he cannot check every single ethnicity or region either.

I think your averages and vbnet's are the best.

Ion Basescul
04-28-2020, 02:32 PM
I don't want to take part in this calculator anymore.


Did you also realise that K36 is vastly superior? Even though it's so sloppy, still K13 has its use simply because it's so popular.

Leto
04-28-2020, 02:44 PM
@Feiichy, you do realize Vahaduo is not intended for use only by a small group of Serbs from certain forums, don't you? That's a tool for everyone. I've even seen it popping up on Reddit and personally recommended it to a few people outside of TA. So why deprive them of better oracles? Maybe there are some Croats out there who would love to use it.

vbnetkhio
04-28-2020, 03:47 PM
Delete all Croatian K13 averages I made. I made them and I have right to demand their removal.
You can use whatever average you want but not mine.

I don't want to take part in this calculator anymore.

And I won't change my opinion. Delete them all.

Thank you.

why, because of 2 or 3 trolls?
please don't, they are proper averages, anything else wouldn't show Croatian genetic variation as good as these averages.

Lucas
04-28-2020, 04:12 PM
Hmm, Feiichy removed but why? Can you rethink?

In case if someone want to use them manually



Croat,28.17,33.10,14.63,7.80,11.67,1.42,0.60,0.20, 0.48,0.59,0.45,0.09,0.12
Croat_BiH,26.09,32.1,15.07,8.41,13.63,1.48,0.49,0. 23,0.56,0.48,0.29,0.00,0.00
Croat_Bosnia,27.15,32.16,15.64,7.09,13.78,1.68,0.7 1,0.03,0.60,0.33,0.42,0.00,0.00
Croat_Central_Croatia,29.92,34.59,13.64,7.37,10.61 ,0.85,0.69,0.1,0.51,0.47,0.90,0.1,0.33
Croat_Croatia,28.59,33.3,14.54,7.68,11.28,1.41,0.6 3,0.32,0.47,0.62,0.48,0.11,0.15
Croat_Dalmatia,25.55,31.00,17.30,8.42,13.71,1.32,0 .35,0.21,0.62,0.56,0.50,0.13,0.13
Croat_Herzegovina,25.11,32.51,15.65,8.52,14.17,1.2 ,0.40,0.17,0.57,0.49,0.36,0,0
Croat_Lika-Senj,26.27,32.93,14.49,7.27,13.14,1.9,0.34,0.29,0. 60,0.34,0.40,0.11,0.11
Croat_Tropolje,26.02,31.63,15.82,9.63,12.85,1.56,0 .37,0.49,0.52,0.62,0.11,0.00,0.00
Croat_Zagorje,32.40,34.24,12.44,7.93,7.81,1.49,1.3 2,0.75,0.15,1.18,0.23,0.00,0.06
Croat_Zagreb,28.82,33.74,14.87,7.43,11.13,1.49,0.4 5,0.26,0.49,0.56,0.40,0.23,0



EDIT: I added now academic from vbknethio. I hope temporarily.



Croat_Zagreb,28.82,33.74,14.87,7.43,11.13,1.49,0.4 5,0.26,0.49,0.56,0.40,0.23,0.13
Croat_Herzegovina,25.99,33.19,15.00,8.53,13.27,1.1 1,0.95,0.05,0.72,0.74,0.45,0.00,0.00
Croat_Bosnia,26.85,32.16,15.72,7.30,13.75,1.74,0.7 3,0.21,0.56,0.28,0.52,0.10,0.09
Croat_Split,25.95,31.39,16.33,8.23,13.73,1.64,0.39 ,0.35,0.52,0.56,0.56,0.22,0.13

Maintenance
04-28-2020, 04:59 PM
xD

Leto
04-28-2020, 05:03 PM
Thank Allah there were some non-Feiichy references out there! :lol:

Lucas
04-28-2020, 05:23 PM
Thank Allah


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxSWVkPfVc8

Jana
04-28-2020, 06:26 PM
Lukasz, see what this mental case is writing on their shit forum. Imbecile doesn't understand what you left are academic samples.
And ofcourse, everything written below is absolute lie.

Frustrated Serb piece of shit. Use Google translate



Inače za klaster Hrvata iz zapadne hercegovine je probrano nekih 32 koje niko nije videio ;D

I dođe Hrvat iz Hercegovine i postavi 12 Hrvata autentičnib iz hercegovine koje ta šizofreničarka nije računala, i pita je štp ove nisu isto stavila. Valjda zato što su bili oko crnogorskog/srpskog proseka, da joj ne kvari fantaziju.

Meni i dalje nije jasno da nas brišu zbog takvih budala.

Jana
04-28-2020, 06:28 PM
Thank Allah there were some non-Feiichy references out there! :lol:

They are more bit northern than my averages on larger sample size, in case you didn't notice.

Jana
04-28-2020, 06:31 PM
He also accused Vbenthkio and Commonsense for being fake Serbs. I wonder what kind of diagnosis he has.
I don't want my averages back indeed, don't need this in my life. Academic samples will suffice.

Leto
04-28-2020, 06:33 PM
They are more bit northern than my averages on larger sample size, in case you didn't notice.
Well, because of your temper tantrums that's the only thing we have.

vbnetkhio
04-28-2020, 06:36 PM
I don't want my averages back indeed, don't need this in my life. Academic samples will suffice.


i think the truth should prevail... over fake dna results (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?313828-Serbian-Autosomal-DNA&p=6660488&viewfull=1#post6660488) :D

Jana
04-28-2020, 06:48 PM
i think the truth should prevail... over fake dna results (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?313828-Serbian-Autosomal-DNA&p=6660488&viewfull=1#post6660488) :D

Indeed, he should have disappeared after being caught like that, but well, some people are shameless.

vbnetkhio
04-28-2020, 07:22 PM
Did you also realise that K36 is vastly superior? Even though it's so sloppy, still K13 has its use simply because it's so popular.

it's not, in my opinion. the components are awful. there is no such thing as East Euro, East Central Euro and Central Euro. the algorithm struggles to assign these components, and they are randomly distributed.

Lucas
04-28-2020, 07:27 PM
Lukasz,

Please change thread name to "Feiichy Croatian averages" or something like that...
This "Lukasz" is quite misleading I think:)

Leto
04-28-2020, 07:27 PM
it's not, in my opinion. the components are awful. there is no such thing as East Euro, East Central Euro and Central Euro. the algorithm struggles to assign these components, and they are randomly distributed.
Indeed. Even K15 with its split into Baltic and Eastern_Euro is shite. I have a Russian woman's results, her K13 is ok but K15 is messed up (the Atlantic got sucked into the North_Sea almost completely!).

Ion Basescul
04-28-2020, 08:00 PM
it's not, in my opinion. the components are awful. there is no such thing as East Euro, East Central Euro and Central Euro. the algorithm struggles to assign these components, and they are randomly distributed.

You should look at them at a meta level and then it will make sense. But it is miles better than K13 for people in my region.

https://i.imgur.com/DgZ3kyM.png

Karol Klačansky
04-28-2020, 09:49 PM
Did you also realise that K36 is vastly superior? Even though it's so sloppy, still K13 has its use simply because it's so popular.

I dont think its better really. There comes a point when too many variables are superfluous.