TheApricity 2020 PCA

[RyoHazuki]

Post your K15 admixture result or the coordinates generated by https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm. I'll put them with your name on the PCA chart and color code them by ethnicity (IE Scandinavian, South Slav, Iberian, West Germanic etc).

[Dr_Maul]

Population
North_Sea -
Atlantic 0.51 Pct
Baltic 4.92 Pct
Eastern_Euro 6.59 Pct
West_Med 3.50 Pct
West_Asian 33.28 Pct
East_Med 31.67 Pct
Red_Sea 5.54 Pct
South_Asian 12.19 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.70 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.60 Pct
Northeast_African 0.07 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.42 Pct

Edit: Just posting coordinates to not clog up the post
Edit 2: 1117(x), 579(y)

[Leto]

Old shit, no longer interesting. There was a big ass "PCA" back in 2019. Most people are still here.

[El_Abominacion]

North_Sea 9.48 Pct
Atlantic 12.68 Pct
Baltic 2.41 Pct
Eastern_Euro 5.22 Pct
West_Med 1.82 Pct
West_Asian 12.16 Pct
East_Med 5.08 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 23.32 Pct
Southeast_Asian 16.51 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.76 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 10.55 Pct

[knez01]

Here's mine
North_Sea 11.95 Pct
Atlantic 15.65 Pct
Baltic 25.25 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.63 Pct
West_Med 13.47 Pct
West_Asian 9.48 Pct
East_Med 8.84 Pct
Red_Sea 2.95 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.58 Pct
Oceanian 0.20 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[Dušan]

X = 478
Y = 211

[gixajo]

Post your K15 admixture result or the coordinates generated by https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm. I'll put them with your name on the PCA chart and color code them by ethnicity (IE Scandinavian, South Slav, Iberian, West Germanic etc).

name:gixajo

Iberian

Abscisse (x-axis):
253
pixel

Ordonnée (y-axis):
260
pixel

Edit: sorry!!! I corrected it.

[firemonkey]

firemonkey,36.04,31.28,10.71,7.77,7.85,2.37,0.21,1 .23,0,0.28,0.37,0.85,0.12,0.93,0

firemonkey_dad,36.42,29.57,10.80,6.54,9.27,4.58,0. 83,1.37,0,0,0.47,0,0.17,0,0

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Name: Viriato

Abscisse (x-axis): 329 pixel

Ordonnée (y-axis): 303 pixel

[Oneeye]

With my ancestryDNA data

312x142

[Impaler]

X = 672
Y = 361

[Smitty]

I haven't tested myself, but these are my mom's coordinates, if you care to include those. Thanks.

Smitty's mom (405, 209)

[Oneeye]

North_Sea38.18 Pct
Atlantic23.37 Pct
Baltic8.26 Pct
Eastern_Euro10.57 Pct
West_Med8.67 Pct
West_Asian5.37 Pct
East_Med3.12 Pct
Red_Sea0.46 Pct
South_Asian-
Southeast_Asian-
Siberian- Amerindian1.44 Pct
Oceanian0.56 Pct
Northeast_African-
Sub-Saharan-
UNDER DEVELOPMENT:

[mitalit]

Abscisse (x-axis):
300
pixel

Ordonnée (y-axis):
252
pixel

[Luso]

X= 277
Y= 311

[Rocinante]

x = 398
y = 327

[Nassbean]

(x-axis):
435 pixel

(y-axis):
702 pixel

[PaleoEuropean]

x: 215


y: 194

[Coastal Elite]

x = 365
y = 207

[Gallop]

Gallop

Iberian

Abscisse (x-axis):
276


Ordonnée (y-axis):
280

[TheMaestro]

Total composants:
99.99999999999999


Abscisse (x-axis):
490
pixel

Ordonnée (y-axis):
233
pixel

[Dušan]

Total composants:
99.99999999999999


Abscisse (x-axis):
490
pixel

Ordonnée (y-axis):
233
pixel

Welcome to Serbian PCA zone. :cool:

[Oneeye]

23andme: 310x142


North_Sea37.83 Pct
Atlantic23.60 Pct
Baltic8.40 Pct
Eastern_Euro10.51 Pct
West_Med8.91 Pct
West_Asian5.21 Pct
East_Med3.15 Pct
Red_Sea0.41 Pct
South_Asian-
Southeast_Asian-
Siberian-
Amerindian1.42 Pct
Oceanian0.57 Pct
Northeast_African-
Sub-Saharan

[Oneeye]

Is there an app that works for f9ndong the coordinates for android? I'm too cool for PC or laptop now

[JamesBond007]

Post your K15 admixture result or the coordinates generated by https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm. I'll put them with your name on the PCA chart and color code them by ethnicity (IE Scandinavian, South Slav, Iberian, West Germanic etc).

F*ck that mentally retarded Polack science it says I am close to Danish between English and North German or something. Nigga I'm Scottish !

That some French dude Tolan trying to put lipstick on a Polack pig core.

[JamesBond007]

Is there an app that works for f9ndong the coordinates for android? I'm too cool for PC or laptop now

I stopped caring about being cool in high school nigga. I'm just ultra mature like that.

[Impaler]

F*ck that mentally retarded Polack science it says I am close to Danish between English and North German or something. Nigga I'm Scottish !

That some French dude Tolan trying to put lipstick on a Polack pig core.

:D

http://i.imgur.com/kQcY2wF.gif (https://imgur.com/kQcY2wF)

[Luke35]

Mr.G
Hungarian/German

X - 384
Y - 183

[TheMaestro]

Welcome to Serbian PCA zone. :cool:

I plot just a little bit northern of Serbia XD

[Mingle]

North_Sea 6.27 Pct
Atlantic 4.44 Pct
Baltic 1.82 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.81 Pct
West_Med -
West_Asian 32.67 Pct
East_Med 7.19 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 34.71 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.10 Pct
Amerindian 0.14 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.85 Pct

[InfamousAngel99]

Cool idea! Oh, and just use my username, please.

Abscisse (x-axis): 292

Ordonnée (y-axis): 158

[Hapanuwa]

Abscisse (x-axis): 971

Ordonnée (y-axis): 463

[Oneeye]

I stopped caring about being cool in high school nigga. I'm just ultra mature like that.


You and I are biggest playas on the forum.

[Oneeye]

Old shit, no longer interesting. There was a big ass "PCA" back in 2019. Most people are still here.

Link? I wanna know if you all skipped me on that one.

[Luke35]

Link? I wanna know if you all skipped me on that one.

I don't have a link, but I don't remember ever seeing you plotted! I'm imagining you're somewhere between Belgium and West German on there..

[Jana]

North_Sea 27.54 Pct
Atlantic 12.02 Pct
Baltic 20.73 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.19 Pct
West_Med 11.69 Pct
West_Asian 9.04 Pct
East_Med 7.46 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.29 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[Oneeye]

I don't have a link, but I don't remember ever seeing you plotted! I'm imagining you're somewhere between Belgium and West German on there..

I'm usually near the "southern dutch"

[Luke35]

I'm usually near the "southern dutch"

Yup, Belgian and South Dutch are the same plot point on the K15. That means you are very close to my mom on there. She considers herself a pure German American, though she does have an English great-grandparent. Your ancestry is majority German if I remember correctly?

[Gründig]

I’m pretty sure I plot really close to west German.

Total composants:

Abscisse (x-axis): 332

Ordonnée (y-axis): 196

[Oneeye]

Yup, Belgian and South Dutch are the same plot point on the K15. That means you are very close to my mom on there. She considers herself a pure German American, though she does have an English great-grandparent. Your ancestry is majority German if I remember correctly?

I'm a mix of English, German, Norwegian and Dutch

[Abdelnour]

1 East_Med 45.28
2 West_Asian 18.96
3 Red_Sea 11.59
4 West_Med 10.49
5 Atlantic 4.25
6 North_Sea 3.46
7 Baltic 1.9
8 Northeast_African 1.63
9 South_Asian 1.25
10 Southeast_Asian 1.03
11 Oceanian 0.12
12 Eastern_Euro 0.05

[Oneeye]

The autosomal results I have for years under guessed my German ancestry, while gedmatch calculators averaged me weighing it in considerably all this time.

[Abdelnour]

We need a G25 PCA plot for only forum members.

[Adamm]

X-axis: 537
Y-axis: 746

[celticdragongod]

CDG

Population
North_Sea 33.06 Pct
Atlantic 30.68 Pct
Baltic 12.48 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.43 Pct
West_Med 7.33 Pct
West_Asian 4.73 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.93 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.26 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.08 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[RyoHazuki]

F*ck that mentally retarded Polack science it says I am close to Danish between English and North German or something. Nigga I'm Scottish !

That some French dude Tolan trying to put lipstick on a Polack pig core.

Scottish people don't plot in a single coordinate and you are like a quarter German, your coordinates makes sense.

[RyoHazuki]

HERE IS THE UPDATED PCA WITH EVERYONE ADDED SO FAR.
The European zone is very messy but I want to give an idea for what the finalized one would look like.

https://imgur.com/a/gODT8lV

[Luso]

HERE IS THE UPDATED PCA WITH EVERYONE ADDED SO FAR.
The European zone is very messy but I want to give an idea for what the finalized one would look like.

https://imgur.com/a/gODT8lV

Looks cool :)

[Oneeye]

HERE IS THE UPDATED PCA WITH EVERYONE ADDED SO FAR.
The European zone is very messy but I want to give an idea for what the finalized one would look like.

https://imgur.com/a/gODT8lV

Kinda blurry when I zoom in to read it

[frankhammer]

Population
North_Sea 36.13 Pct
Atlantic 23.65 Pct
Baltic 10.56 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.30 Pct
West_Med 12.50 Pct
West_Asian 2.69 Pct
East_Med 2.09 Pct
Red_Sea 1.20 Pct
South_Asian 0.83 Pct

[RyoHazuki]

Kinda blurry when I zoom in to read it

It must be imgur doing that.

[frankhammer]

It is fine viewing it on a PC. Zoomed in is clear too.

[calxpal]

x-axis: 377 pixel
y-axis: 166 pixel

Name: Callie

[Jased]

Cool I'm close to a Greek:) 23andme gave me a high Greek percentage after the Iberian.

[PaleoEuropean]

HERE IS THE UPDATED PCA WITH EVERYONE ADDED SO FAR.
The European zone is very messy but I want to give an idea for what the finalized one would look like.

https://imgur.com/a/gODT8lV

My last Frankish ancestor was like 1000 years ago xD

https://i.imgur.com/fu8t4zn.jpg

[Gallop]

Thanks I like!!!

[Mortimer]

Population
North_Sea 16.48 Pct
Atlantic 5.55 Pct
Baltic 10.84 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.40 Pct
West_Med 13.28 Pct
West_Asian 12.48 Pct
East_Med 13.96 Pct
Red_Sea 2.90 Pct
South_Asian 13.41 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.83 Pct
Siberian 0.09 Pct
Amerindian 0.62 Pct
Oceanian 1.05 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.10 Pct

[Oneeye]

Imgur app help with clarity of zoomed in pic. Looks good.


I'm probably better labelled "mixed" than "continental germanic"... I have a great deal of British ancestry and score nearly a quarter Scandinavian. (Norwegian great grandmother)

[Mortimer]

Imgur app help with clarity of zoomed in pic. Looks good.


I'm probably better labelled "mixed" than "continental germanic"... I have a great deal of British ancestry and score nearly a quarter Scandinavian. (Norwegian great grandmother)

I wouldnt call you mixed, I think northwest european or celto-germanic.

[RyoHazuki]

My last Frankish ancestor was like 1000 years ago xD

https://i.imgur.com/fu8t4zn.jpg

You are extremely western shifted for a German.

[RyoHazuki]

Imgur app help with clarity of zoomed in pic. Looks good.


I'm probably better labelled "mixed" than "continental germanic"... I have a great deal of British ancestry and score nearly a quarter Scandinavian. (Norwegian great grandmother)

It was a hard call for me, for people with ancestry from entirely in the North Sea region I questioned calling them mixed. I also wonder how much counts as mixed (which I'd I think depends on how disparate and how much). I will change it next update though.

[Kyp]

x682y331

[SUPREEEEEME]

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.27
2 Atlantic 18.62
3 West_Asian 12.65
4 North_Sea 10.92
5 West_Med 10.74
6 Red_Sea 9.01
7 Baltic 6.33
8 Eastern_Euro 3.03
9 South_Asian 1.79
10 Northeast_African 1.19
11 Siberian 1.19
12 Sub-Saharan 0.26

[IrisSelene]

i tried with the converted V3 and also with the original


V3:

X - 525
Y - 228


Population
North_Sea 15.72 Pct
Atlantic 15.14 Pct
Baltic 20.61 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.08 Pct
West_Med 11.15 Pct
West_Asian 11.39 Pct
East_Med 10.21 Pct
Red_Sea 0.63 Pct
South_Asian 0.48 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.44 Pct
Siberian 0.91 Pct
Amerindian 0.20 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


With the original raw data:


X - 550
Y - 227



Population
North_Sea 15.31 Pct
Atlantic 13.58 Pct
Baltic 21.58 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.01 Pct
West_Med 8.99 Pct
West_Asian 14.85 Pct
East_Med 11.14 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.27 Pct
Amerindian 0.28 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[Graham]

43.06% -- North_Sea
28.84% -- Atlantic
7.44% -- Baltic
10.07% -- Eastern_Euro
6.68% -- West_Med
1.77% --West_Asian
0.79% -- East_Med
0% -- Red_Sea
0% --South_Asian
0% -- Southeast_Asian
0% --Siberian
0% -- Amerindian
1.02% -- Oceanian
0.32% -- Northeast_African
0% -- Sub-Saharan

X=230
Y=110

[Hapanuwa]

My name is misspelt on the pca :ohwell:

[SkyBurn]

X=612
Y=431

[Rocinante]

HERE IS THE UPDATED PCA WITH EVERYONE ADDED SO FAR.
The European zone is very messy but I want to give an idea for what the finalized one would look like.

https://imgur.com/a/gODT8lV

How Impaler is plotting south of the Zuh troll? :p he is banned actually, quit that motherfucker from our 2020 PCA/

Good job by the way.

[Vojnik]

X: 509

Y: 289

[Maintenance]

Cool I'm close to a Greek:) 23andme gave me a high Greek percentage after the Iberian.

There is no greeks on the PCA

[PaleoEuropean]

You are extremely western shifted for a German.

That's probably because you are using k15 instead of k13. K15 is a wideband speculative calculator. It's picking up on my Western German and Swiss which is only like 20% of my dna in most tests.

[JamesBond007]

That's probably because you are using k15 instead of k13. K15 is adeb wiand speculative calculator. It's picking up on my Western German and Swiss which is only like 20% of my dna in most tests.

People are stupid as both calculators suck and are 'shifted' because K15 is supposed to adjust or compensate for amerindian admixture and K13 for Asiatic admixture (so K13 might be best for Eastern Euros but I'm not sure). Most people are not aware of this because they are stupid. Maybe, they work well for their specific use cases but they suck for me as I'm not chinky or mestizo like.

[Grace O'Malley]

Grace,37.06,29.87,11,87,8.76,4.95,5.17,0,1.09,0,0, 0.07,1.15,0,0,0

[RandomGuy20]

North_Sea 26.65 Pct
Atlantic 20.92 Pct
Baltic 19.62 Pct
Eastern_Euro 16.11 Pct
West_Med 8.74 Pct
West_Asian 4.44 Pct
East_Med 2.09 Pct
Red_Sea 0.20 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.54 Pct
Siberian 0.13 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.16 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.39 Pct

[RandomGuy20]

This new K15 test gives me Erzya in pop approx., which apparently is the name of a language :confused:

[RyoHazuki]

That's probably because you are using k15 instead of k13. K15 is a wideband speculative calculator. It's picking up on my Western German and Swiss which is only like 20% of my dna in most tests.

I don't think West German would pull you so far west, way past French average.

[Dunai]

X-Axis:465
Y-Axis:179

[RyoHazuki]

People are stupid as both calculators suck and are 'shifted' because K15 is supposed to adjust or compensate for amerindian admixture and K13 for Asiatic admixture (so K13 might be best for Eastern Euros but I'm not sure). Most people are not aware of this because they are stupid. Maybe, they work well for their specific use cases but they suck for me as I'm not chinky or mestizo like.

If that's true then none of those things are apparent, and hearing it for the first time from you of all people says more about you than everyone else. Next you will go on to say that it actually is apparent because it said you were one British ethnicity instead of another. Or something.

Btw Amerindians are an Asiatic derived people.

[Ranger0075]

Abscisse (x-axis):
520
pixel

Ordonnée (y-axis):
256
pixel

[CommonSense]

North_Sea 20.46 Pct
Atlantic 12.00 Pct
Baltic 17.32 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.66 Pct
West_Med 13.55 Pct
West_Asian 10.99 Pct
East_Med 11.36 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.03 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.63 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[El_Abominacion]

Ya boi sitting at most Eastern shifted so far

[Thambi]

X = 2050
Y = 841

[bained]

(x-axis): 471

(y-axis): 283

[JamesBond007]

*edited out*

[JamesBond007]

If that's true then none of those things are apparent, and hearing it for the first time from you of all people says more about you than everyone else. Next you will go on to say that it actually is apparent because it said you were one British ethnicity instead of another. Or something.

It is apparent but Americans are a nation of functional illiterates. Learn to read ! :


This new test is essentially an upgraded version of the EUtest. Unlike the original, it includes an Amerindian component and five native reference populations from North and Central America. So obviously it should be a lot more useful for users from the New World who are wondering about Amerindian admixture.

http://bga101.blogspot.com/2013/10/eurogenes-k15-now-at-gedmatch.html

I have no amerindian admixture



Btw Amerindians are an Asiatic derived people.

The land bridge bottleneck to the new world is old enough that they are genetically distinct genius.

[Ylla]

Y = 336
X = 494

[Rgvgjhvv]

x = 594 y = 400

[Rgvgjhvv]

X = 672
Y = 361

Your position makes absolutely no sense given your reported ancestry.

[Impaler]

Your position makes absolutely no sense given your reported ancestry.

This map has no logic. I know a Brittish + Iordanian who plots in the Balkans.

[PaleoEuropean]

I don't think West German would pull you so far west, way past French average.

Like I said i am not French at all and 100 is North Sea :rolleyes: I doubt French are North Sea shifted.

[Rgvgjhvv]

This map has no logic. I know a Brittish + Iordanian who plots in the Balkans.

That's not outrageous. You should plot there too, but you're in no man's land. Explanation?

[Samnium]

Like I said i am not French at all and 100 is North Sea :rolleyes: I doubt French are North Sea shifted.

Only Brittons and some other Northern French do.

[Kyp]

That's not outrageous. You should plot there too, but you're in no man's land. Explanation?

He's not in no-mans land. he plots like Balkan turks

[PaleoEuropean]

Only Brittons and some other Northern French do.

True some are but off the pca coordinates he is using they are not, I think he is just trying to troll. According to the coordinates I plot with other Brits


https://i.imgur.com/jXQPqz9.png

[Rgvgjhvv]

He's not in no-mans land. he plots like Balkan turks

He's not a Balkan Turk though. Explanation?

[Gallop]

I imagine it is without Oracle or Oracle 4?

[Kyp]

He's not a Balkan Turk though. Explanation?

Probably some Iranian_NEO like ancestry. pulling him towards southeast

[Rgvgjhvv]

Probably some Iranian_NEO like ancestry. pulling him towards southeast

It's an extreme pull from his compatriots.

[Jana]

My husband Stears (Hungarian)

North_Sea 20.87 Pct
Atlantic 17.30 Pct
Baltic 18.27 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.97 Pct
West_Med 8.76 Pct
West_Asian 9.89 Pct
East_Med 7.10 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 2.33 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.37 Pct
Siberian 1.26 Pct
Amerindian 0.52 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.36 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

[Samnium]

True some are but off the pca coordinates he is using they are not, I think he is just trying to troll. According to the coordinates I plot with other Brits


https://i.imgur.com/jXQPqz9.png

I thought that he would use the standard PCA, the one he's making seems very inaccurate.

[Jana]

He thought that he would use the standard PCA, the one he's making seems very inaccurate.

This old K15 PCA is worthless because many averages ave very off.
I like OP approach with blank PCA

[Jana]

It's an extreme pull from his compatriots.

He has high south asian score, this tend to pull you very SE.

[Samnium]

He has high south asian score, this tend to pull you very SE.

Yes even a little is very "drifting", just like SSA. A pred. NW Euro guy with 10% black will plot on the same "latitude" as Cyprians.

[Rgvgjhvv]

He has high south asian score, this tend to pull you very SE.

From where?

[Jana]

From where?

Ask him. Stears also scores over 2%.

[Dorian]

From where?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_MyUGq7pgs

[Impaler]

From where?

Why are you suddenly interested about my results? You seek for explanations, logics. What is the point?

[Rgvgjhvv]

Why are you suddenly interested about my results? You seek for explanations, logics. What is the point?

What do you mean "suddenly"? OP posted a PCA map of all TA users. How is this suddenly? It's actually the entire point of the thread so that we can see where each TA user plots. If you don't like it, why participate? Anyway what do you have to hide, I'm just interested.

[Impaler]

What do you mean "suddenly"? OP posted a PCA map of all TA users. How is this suddenly? It's actually the entire point of the thread so that we can see where each TA user plots. If you don't like it, why participate? Anyway what do you have to hide, I'm just interested.

Hiding? What is so odd to plot close to Balkan Turks? Do I plot in the Middle Eastern or Africa? Why all the people should plot exactly in the average places?

[Leto]

Okay, you can add me too even though I don't partiularly care about that fucking old map

Abscisse (x-axis): 559
Ordonnée (y-axis): 113

[Rgvgjhvv]

Hiding? What is so odd to plot close to Balkan Turks? Do I plot in the Middle Eastern or Africa? Why all the people should plot exactly in the average places?

I'm just trying to understand why your raw data is plotting you there. Obviously there is a reason you don't plot near the average - not even close to the average. I don't understand why you're asking me why I am asking you questions :lol: We are here to learn about genetics.

[RyoHazuki]

I thought that he would use the standard PCA, the one he's making seems very inaccurate.

It's not inaccurate, it's the exact same data illustrated without the average populations. No different to plotting people on the original image then erasing the average pops in MSPaint to only show users.

[RyoHazuki]

True some are but off the pca coordinates he is using they are not, I think he is just trying to troll. According to the coordinates I plot with other Brits


https://i.imgur.com/jXQPqz9.png

Why would I be trying to troll? I have never seen a German who plots like you is all I said. You don't plot with 100% Brits, you plot closer to Southern France than Brits which is not representative of British people. Bretons are already on the fringes but you are even distant to them. This is exactly what the data says, idk how it's a troll. Brits plot like this:
https://i.imgur.com/1Cuchdv.jpg
This is you on the standard PCA image with average populations. You are closer to Basques and Southern French than any Brit or German, it's not how British people plot; way too far south. It's not a troll, its just me taking what you gave me and putting it there.
https://i.imgur.com/9NvgFB1_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
For perspective I am half British half French with most of it coming from the SW and you, as a German, are closer to them than I. Never seen that before.

[RyoHazuki]

Okay, you can add me too even though I don't partiularly care about that fucking old map

Abscisse (x-axis): 559
Ordonnée (y-axis): 113

Its not the old map, it's the same image dimensions but without averages to illustrate only users and their meta ethnicities.

[Samnium]

It's not inaccurate, it's the exact same data illustrated without the average populations. No different to plotting people on the original image then erasing the average pops in MSPaint to only show users.

It's true that pop. averages can be meaningless but they do give an "idea", without it it's very difficult to see.

[Samnium]

Why would I be trying to troll? I have never seen a German who plots like you is all I said. You don't plot with 100% Brits, you plot closer to Southern France than Brits which is not representative of British people. Bretons are already on the fringes but you are even distant to them. This is exactly what the data says, idk how it's a troll. Brits plot like this:
https://i.imgur.com/1Cuchdv.jpg
This is you on the standard PCA image with average populations. You are closer to Basques and Southern French than any Brit or German, it's not how British people plot; way too far south. It's not a troll, its just me taking what you gave me and putting it there.
https://i.imgur.com/9NvgFB1_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
For perspective I am half British half French with most of it coming from the SW and you, as a German, are closer to them than I. Never seen that before.

Interesting, very Central/Northern French. I would say.

[Kaspias]

I don't like K15 and don't care much what it shows, but you can plot nevertheless.

757, 318

[J. Ketch]

Coordinates from last year, when it added up to 100%

X: 235
Y: 118

[RyoHazuki]

Interesting, very Central/Northern French. I would say.

I would say this region is where most French will plot
https://i.imgur.com/ROx4t4J_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[kleenex]

x=521
y=353

[PaleoEuropean]

Why would I be trying to troll? I have never seen a German who plots like you is all I said. You don't plot with 100% Brits, you plot closer to Southern France than Brits which is not representative of British people. Bretons are already on the fringes but you are even distant to them. This is exactly what the data says, idk how it's a troll. Brits plot like this:
https://i.imgur.com/1Cuchdv.jpg
This is you on the standard PCA image with average populations. You are closer to Basques and Southern French than any Brit or German, it's not how British people plot; way too far south. It's not a troll, its just me taking what you gave me and putting it there.
https://i.imgur.com/9NvgFB1_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
For perspective I am half British half French with most of it coming from the SW and you, as a German, are closer to them than I. Never seen that before.

Like I said k15 which equals 15 populations is not accurate:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 9.258198
2 Irish @ 9.640515
3 Southwest_English @ 9.712329
4 South_Dutch @ 10.179048
5 West_Scottish @ 10.647305
6 North_German @ 10.974265
7 Danish @ 12.520941
8 Orcadian @ 12.844436
9 North_Dutch @ 12.995355
10 French @ 13.159579
11 West_German @ 15.736464
12 Norwegian @ 17.937439
13 Spanish_Cataluna @ 17.985443
14 East_German @ 18.115973
15 West_Norwegian @ 18.792992
16 Swedish @ 18.878464
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 18.953463
18 Southwest_French @ 19.599644
19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 19.744570
20 Austrian @ 19.792648

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +50% Swedish @ 7.937153


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +25% French_Basque +25% Irish @ 5.712556

[Samnium]

I would say this region is where most French will plot
https://i.imgur.com/ROx4t4J_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Exactly.

You've exactly "pinpointed" the "general" French cluster, as I thought to be (I had exactly the same idea on this pca).

Now there are some "French" people like Swiss French that don't plot exactly here, I've seen a Swiss French plotting there :

https://i.imgur.com/S6bbjrn.png

[WhatsGoingOnBigGuy]

Abscisse (x-axis): 336

Ordonnée (y-axis): 149

Thanks!

[drewcastle]

This old pca is pretty boring

At least you could try it with other gedmatch calculators, not THE SAME AS ALWAYS.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

[Ranger0075]

i wanna see the map, i am not in 2019 pca map

[Gründig]

Where is it?

[Vojnik]

Where is it?

It was a scam.

[Lucas]

It was a scam.

This K15 PCA?

[RyoHazuki]

This old pca is pretty boring

At least you could try it with other gedmatch calculators, not THE SAME AS ALWAYS.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

1. I don't know how to make a PCA
2. It's only showing users and reported ethnicity, not averages. Different way to visualize users relative to each other.
3. It's fun.

[PaleoEuropean]

This old pca is pretty boring

At least you could try it with other gedmatch calculators, not THE SAME AS ALWAYS.

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

Yea we need a k13 or at least weird but interesting calculator.

[RyoHazuki]

Where is it?

You were in the first update, go check page 5

[RyoHazuki]

It was a scam.

Sorry, please be patient. I don't update daily. Next update is coming shortly.

[RyoHazuki]

NEXT UPDATE

I added everyone who shared in the thread. If I missed you please let me know.
https://imgur.com/a/u1gBtZK

[celticdragongod]

NEXT UPDATE

I added everyone who shared in the thread. If I missed you please let me know.
https://imgur.com/a/u1gBtZK

You left me out.

CDG

Population
North_Sea 33.06 Pct
Atlantic 30.68 Pct
Baltic 12.48 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.43 Pct
West_Med 7.33 Pct
West_Asian 4.73 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.93 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.26 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.08 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[Vojnik]

Sorry, please be patient. I don't update daily. Next update is coming shortly.

All good. I was just joking.

[RyoHazuki]

You left me out.

CDG

Population
North_Sea 33.06 Pct
Atlantic 30.68 Pct
Baltic 12.48 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.43 Pct
West_Med 7.33 Pct
West_Asian 4.73 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.93 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.26 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.08 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

You are number 3, check bottom right corner for what user each number is.

[Ranger0075]

i must be easterner, but my iberian put me together with balkans despite my 13pt native

[Rgvgjhvv]

Who is SkyBurn and where is he from?

[Vojnik]

Who is SkyBurn and where is he from?

Australia. Jewish ancestry. Ashkenazi with blond hair.

[Rgvgjhvv]

Australia. Jewish ancestry. Ashkenazi with blond hair.

Makes sense! Thanks

[Rgvgjhvv]

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.27
2 Atlantic 18.62
3 West_Asian 12.65
4 North_Sea 10.92
5 West_Med 10.74
6 Red_Sea 9.01
7 Baltic 6.33
8 Eastern_Euro 3.03
9 South_Asian 1.79
10 Northeast_African 1.19
11 Siberian 1.19
12 Sub-Saharan 0.26

Your raw data components are so strange! The average isn't but the individual parts are different than I've seen.

[PaleoEuropean]

Why would I be trying to troll? I have never seen a German who plots like you is all I said. You don't plot with 100% Brits, you plot closer to Southern France than Brits which is not representative of British people. Bretons are already on the fringes but you are even distant to them. This is exactly what the data says, idk how it's a troll. Brits plot like this:
https://i.imgur.com/1Cuchdv.jpg
This is you on the standard PCA image with average populations. You are closer to Basques and Southern French than any Brit or German, it's not how British people plot; way too far south. It's not a troll, its just me taking what you gave me and putting it there.
https://i.imgur.com/9NvgFB1_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
For perspective I am half British half French with most of it coming from the SW and you, as a German, are closer to them than I. Never seen that before.

I was just messing with you, I am have a high amount of Pictish in my ancestry and that kit is my kit that leans more Western Euro, my 23 kit leans more Germanic. I wanted to see how much you knew. If you look at my MTA results you can see the difference in the kits. Picts had an affinity with the Basques and plot differently from the rest of Britain, also why I have a close distance to Orkney that have a similar mix in certain parts of Norse, Pictish and Gaelic.

[SUPREEEEEME]

Your raw data components are so strange! The average isn't but the individual parts are different than I've seen.

Yip

My Atlantic is 8% higher than the Ashkenazi average. West Med is about 4% lower than average. My MENA is pretty much average.

I sometimes wonder if testing with a different company would provide more regular components.

[Defcon2]

Iberian.

Abscisse (x-axis): 278
Ordonnée (y-axis): 325

[Rgvgjhvv]

Yip

My Atlantic is 8% higher than the Ashkenazi average. West Med is about 4% lower than average. My MENA is pretty much average.

I sometimes wonder if testing with a different company would provide more regular components.

With all that said we are genetically similar in our averaged results lol

[JamesBond007]

My results of British isles ancestry :

Abscisse (x-axis): 287

Ordonnée (y-axis): 143

[Daos777]

(x-axis):
531


(y-axis):
176


Moroccan

[SUPREEEEEME]

With all that said we are genetically similar in our averaged results lol

Yes - where in Greece is your ancestry from?

[someonenotyou]

x 464

y 210

[Rgvgjhvv]

Yes - where in Greece is your ancestry from?

Samos

[Albannach]

North_Sea 36.57 Pct
Atlantic 32.33 Pct
Baltic 12.01 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.24 Pct
West_Med 4.24 Pct
West_Asian 5.51 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.30 Pct
Oceanian 0.80 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[SUPREEEEEME]

Samos

makes sense

[Epirus DNA]

Total composants:
99.98

Abscisse (x-axis):
548 pixel

Ordonnée (y-axis):
335 pixel

North_Sea 14.80 Pct
Atlantic 10.13 Pct
Baltic 11.56 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.68 Pct
West_Med 16.59 Pct
West_Asian 13.58 Pct
East_Med 22.69 Pct
Red_Sea 2.34 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.38 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.17 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.06 Pct

[RyoHazuki]

Expect the next update tomorrow.

[RyoHazuki]

UPDATED
https://imgur.com/a/cupg2TF

[Dunai]

UPDATED
https://imgur.com/a/cupg2TF

I wonder why Magyar is included in the Balkans according to you, when culturally it is an East-Central European nation? Genetically the Hungarians also fall between Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenians, Croatians and Austrians.

[Schwop]

X 364
Y 109

[Grace O'Malley]

North_Sea 36.57 Pct
Atlantic 32.33 Pct
Baltic 12.01 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.24 Pct
West_Med 4.24 Pct
West_Asian 5.51 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.30 Pct
Oceanian 0.80 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

You are right beside me on that plot. :) You are in between Graham and me with Creoda and CDG right in the same place.

[Albannach]

You are right beside me on that plot. :) You are in between Graham and me with Creoda and CDG right in the same place.

Yes, my place on the plot seems to fit nicely for someone with my ancestry West Scottish and Irish, as Graham isn't that far from me either, though I do seem closer to the Irish on most of these type of things, probably down to my dad's side being fairly Gaelic too.

[RyoHazuki]

I wonder why Magyar is included in the Balkans according to you, when culturally it is an East-Central European nation? Genetically the Hungarians also fall between Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenians, Croatians and Austrians.

Because i felt it didn't warrant another grouping. Their closest to Croatians in many cases so I grouped them together.