View Full Version : Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2
Continuation of the older thread:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?318162-Docedad-k12b-south-west-and-central-asian-results
Other threads of possible interest:
Azeri DNA:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?316789-Azeri-DNA
Iranian Zoroastrian results:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?320083-Iranian-Zoroastrian-results-(new-average)
Lur results:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?318155-Iranian-Lur-results
Turkish Afshar results:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?317428-Turkish-Afshar-Results
Dr_Maul
05-11-2020, 05:30 PM
Might as well bump it with my own (1/2 Persian + 1/2 Gulf)
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.41
2 Gedrosia 27.49
3 Southwest_Asian 13.75
4 Atlantic_Med 8.12
5 South_Asian 5.04
6 North_European 4.5
7 Northwest_African 3.36
8 Siberian 1.68
9 East_African 0.64
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians (Behar) 4.75
2 Iranian (Dodecad) 6.48
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.85
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 8.48
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.71
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14.89
7 Turks (Behar) 16.75
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.15
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 18.39
10 Turkish (Dodecad) 18.78
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 19.08
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 19.22
13 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.25
14 Lebanese (Behar) 19.76
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 20.8
16 Syrians (Behar) 21.13
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 21.58
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.95
19 Jordanians (Behar) 22.93
20 Druze (HGDP) 23.93
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.4% Iranians (Behar) + 12.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.49
2 93.2% Iranians (Behar) + 6.8% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 2.56
3 92.2% Iranians (Behar) + 7.8% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 2.62
4 87.5% Iranians (Behar) + 12.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.79
5 92.9% Iranians (Behar) + 7.1% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 2.83
6 93.6% Iranians (Behar) + 6.4% Moroccans (Behar) @ 2.86
7 88.8% Iranians (Behar) + 11.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.88
8 89% Iranians (Behar) + 11% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.92
9 88.6% Iranians (Behar) + 11.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.92
10 89% Iranians (Behar) + 11% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.02
11 90.7% Iranians (Behar) + 9.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.07
12 93.4% Iranians (Behar) + 6.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 3.08
13 93.6% Iranians (Behar) + 6.4% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 3.12
14 93.8% Iranians (Behar) + 6.2% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 3.15
15 93.6% Iranians (Behar) + 6.4% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 3.16
16 93.5% Iranians (Behar) + 6.5% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 3.18
17 91.8% Iranians (Behar) + 8.2% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.21
18 93.7% Iranians (Behar) + 6.3% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 3.22
19 93.6% Iranians (Behar) + 6.4% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 3.22
20 91.6% Iranians (Behar) + 8.4% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 3.24
Turkish Kurd (taken from Reddit)
R-M269
J1c
Gedrosia 26.19
Siberian 0.48
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asian 1.18
Atlantic_Med 6.76
North_European 6.49
South_Asian 3.76
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 15.42
East_Asian 0
Caucasus 38.82
Sub_Saharan 0.90
Distance to: Kurd_Turkey
2.82510177 Kurd_Sorani
3.54393849 Lur_Iran
4.07289823 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.86631277 Kurd
4.87493590 Iranian
5.09790153 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.13503651 Kurd_KAZ
5.19104999 Kurds
5.25917294 Zaza
5.59691880 Turkmen_Iraq
5.66914456 Iranian_Fars
6.10401507 Iranians
6.97177883 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.46705380 Azerbaijani
8.48081364 Iran_Central_East
8.57426382 Iran_Mazandaran
9.20464013 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.04186238 Uzbekistan_Jews
10.68794180 Turk_Southeast
11.54765777 Iran_Khorasan
Target: Kurd_Turkey
Distance: 2.1565% / 2.15651334 | ADC: 1x
71.2 Kurd_Sorani
26.6 Lur_Iran
2.2 Iranian
Target: Kurd_Turkey
Distance: 1.7917% / 1.79170799 | ADC: 0.5x
68.6 Kurd_Sorani
19.2 Iranian
5.0 Kurds
3.6 Iranians
3.6 Lur_Iran
Target: Kurd_Turkey
Distance: 1.3638% / 1.36377564 | ADC: 0.25x
55.6 Kurd_Sorani
28.0 Kurds
7.6 Lur_Iran
5.8 Iran_Central_East
2.4 Iran_Bandari
0.4 Cambodians
0.2 YRI30
I think this thread is a good place to ask, anyone have seen Western(Turkic speaker) Yugur result before?
I literally had no idea about that ethnic group, had to google it. I think they must be something like the Tuvans or maybe even more purely Mongoloid.
Lucas
05-11-2020, 06:50 PM
I literally had no idea about that ethnic group, had to google it. I think they must be something like the Tuvans or maybe even more purely Mongoloid.
From recent study on China.
Yugur_Gansu_China average in K36 (I don't have their Dodecad K12b ). They looks chinized to some extent.
Amerindian 0,29
Arabian 0,04
Armenian 0,45
Basque 0,14
Central_African 0,05
Central_Euro 0,43
East_African 0,07
East_Asian 43,28
East_Balkan 0,18
East_Central_Asian 18,10
East_Central_Euro 0,03
East_Med 0,00
Eastern_Euro 0,28
Fennoscandian 0,26
French 0,23
Iberian 0,00
Indo-Chinese 3,53
Italian 0,07
Malayan 0,10
Near_Eastern 0,00
North_African 0,05
North_Atlantic 0,18
North_Caucasian 0,00
North_Sea 0,03
Northeast_African 0,06
Oceanian 0,28
Omotic 0,10
Pygmy 0,17
Siberian 4,86
South_Asian 0,72
South_Central_Asian 0,64
South_Chinese 24,48
Volga-Ural 0,20
West_African 0,09
West_Caucasian 0,46
West_Med 0,13
Kaspias
05-11-2020, 08:06 PM
I literally had no idea about that ethnic group, had to google it. I think they must be something like the Tuvans or maybe even more purely Mongoloid.
Eastern(Mongolic speaker) Yugurs:
Distance to: Yugur
0.02198553 Tu
0.02544024 Bonan
0.02768163 Tibetan_Gannan
0.02872575 Han_Shanxi
0.03264803 Tibetan_Xinlong
0.03679935 Han_Henan
0.03838508 Tibetan_Yajiang
0.03949282 Han_Shandong
0.03984929 Mongola
0.04020813 Qiang_Danba
0.04038847 Tibetan_Xunhua
0.04044464 Naxi
0.04282348 Tibetan_Yunnan
0.04486449 Dungan
0.04619814 Yi
0.04862232 Qiang_Daofu
0.05071951 Tibetan_Gangcha
0.05110531 Korean
0.05238873 Tibetan_Lhasa
0.05266669 Tibetan_Nagqu
0.05295388 Tibetan_Shigatse
0.05385619 Tibetan_Chamdo
0.05439671 Tibetan_Shannan
0.05456686 Han_Shanghai
0.05460574 Han_Jiangsu
We don't have Western ones, unfortunately. I believe they are in between Eastern Yugurs and Uyghurs.
Lucas
05-11-2020, 08:15 PM
Eastern(Mongolic speaker) Yugurs:
Distance to: Yugur
0.02198553 Tu
0.02544024 Bonan
0.02768163 Tibetan_Gannan
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Yes, there are in G25 too.
Three Ahiska Turkish results (titled 'Ahiska' on Gedmatch). Note the first one does score ~5% East Eurasian
Kit Number: T193760
Population
Gedrosia 19.21 Pct
Siberian 1.56 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.43 Pct
North_European 11.48 Pct
South_Asian 1.15 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.15 Pct
East_Asian 3.54 Pct
Caucasus 49.48 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Ahiska1
6.58616732 Turk_Ahiska
7.19228754 Circassian
7.54802623 Ossetian
7.58307326 Abkhazian
8.91320930 Turk_East
9.82568064 Kumyks
9.84963959 Karachay
10.01629672 Ingush
10.49841417 Georgian_Gurian
10.82725265 Balkar
Target: Ahiska1
Distance: 1.9581% / 1.95807032 | ADC: 0.5x
49.8 Turk_Ahiska
42.0 Circassian
7.8 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.4 JPT30
Target: Ahiska1
Distance: 0.9229% / 0.92287527 | ADC: 0.25x
53.8 Turk_Ahiska
39.6 Circassian
3.8 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.8 JPT30
0.8 Japanese
0.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.4 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
Kit Number: T246122
Population
Gedrosia 18.08 Pct
Siberian 0.30 Pct
Northwest_African 0.50 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.13 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.24 Pct
North_European 9.46 Pct
South_Asian 0.65 Pct
East_African 0.22 Pct
Southwest_Asian 8.97 Pct
East_Asian 0.42 Pct
Caucasus 53.03 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Ahiska2
1.95903037 Turk_Ahiska
6.45161995 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.59314796 Hemshin
6.59398969 Laz
7.24590919 Abkhazian
7.59233824 Georgian_Turkey
7.72594978 Georgian_Gurian
7.80112171 Georgian_Imereti
7.93518116 Georgian_Adjara
8.14274524 Armenian_East
Target: Ahiska2
Distance: 1.2164% / 1.21636125 | ADC: 0.5x
95.4 Turk_Ahiska
2.4 Abkhazian
2.2 Bulgarians
Target: Ahiska2
Distance: 0.5723% / 0.57234871 | ADC: 0.25x
80.6 Turk_Ahiska
7.8 Georgian_Gurian
6.4 Abkhazian
2.4 Ashkenazy_Jews
2.2 Greek
0.6 Bulgarian
Kit Number: T884115
Population
Gedrosia 18.26 Pct
Siberian 0.89 Pct
Northwest_African 0.21 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.43 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.27 Pct
North_European 8.25 Pct
South_Asian 0.23 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.38 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 56.06 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Ahiska3
3.90499680 Turk_Ahiska
4.81797675 Laz
4.83061073 Georgian_Turkey
4.84777268 Georgian_Imereti
5.22642325 Georgian_Adjara
5.53920572 Hemshin
5.54882871 Georgian_Gurian
6.69153196 Abkhazian
6.70255175 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.93290704 Georgian_Mingrelian
Target: Ahiska3
Distance: 2.2190% / 2.21902152 | ADC: 1x
59.8 Turk_Ahiska
31.8 Georgian_Imereti
8.4 Laz
Target: Ahiska3
Distance: 1.8398% / 1.83979670 | ADC: 0.5x
42.0 Turk_Ahiska
27.8 Laz
26.6 Georgian_Gurian
1.8 Abkhazian
1.8 Georgian_Imereti
Target: Ahiska3
Distance: 0.8232% / 0.82321444 | ADC: 0.25x
34.2 Laz
28.6 Abkhazian
19.6 Georgian_Imereti
15.0 Turk_Ahiska
1.8 Sardinian
0.8 Georgian_Gurian
Three Ahiska Turkish results (titled 'Ahiska' on Gedmatch). Note the first one does score ~5% East Eurasian
mixed
mixed
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But with what? Either other Turks or Azerbaijani. Many Ahiska live in Kazakhstan and Southern Russia.
Two Azerbaijanis (from Rep.)
#1
Gedrosian: 23.40
Siberian: 2.22
Northwest_African: 2.44
Southeast_Asian: 3.62
Atlantic_Med: 9.00
North_European: 10.32
South_Asian 1.85
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 8.08
East_Asian: 1.13
Caucasian: 37.67
SSA: 0.28
Distance to: Azeri12
6.30999208 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.75482790 Azerbaijani
6.96105595 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.09645601 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.57059508 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.70577395 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.76950398 Zaza
9.36113241 Turk_Southeast
10.16465936 Kurd_Sorani
10.17830536 Iranian
10.52720286 Turkmen_Iraq
10.60215544 Turk_Central_East
10.71005602 Iran_Khorasan
10.75266944 Kurd
10.82729421 Kurd_KAZ
10.84169728 Turk_South
10.95916511 Iranian_Fars
11.06335844 Kurds
11.41380743 Lur_Iran
11.54806044 Turk_Anatolia
11.55003030 Turk_East
11.58235296 Iran_Central_East
11.67119531 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.85838944 Turk_Central_West
12.37258663 Ingush
Target: Azeri12
Distance: 2.3512% / 2.35121823 | ADC: 0.25x
36.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
22.6 Iranian
21.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.4 Ingush
3.4 Canarias
2.0 Cambodians
0.8 French_Basque
0.8 Mozabite
0.4 Dai
#2
Gedrosian: 21.82
Siberian: 1.14
Northwest_African: 2.26
Southeast_Asian: 0.39
Atlantic_Med: 8.56
North_European: 7.84
South_Asian 3.02
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.81
East_Asian: 3.94
Caucasian: 40.04
SSA: 0.19
Distance to: Azeri13
2.89067466 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.25762183 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.63324923 Azerbaijani
5.37084723 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.54496168 Zaza
5.88045066 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.26609927 Turk_Southeast
7.10218276 Turkmen_Iraq
7.34183220 Kurd_Sorani
8.10014197 Turk_Central_East
8.10158009 Turk_East
8.85809799 Kurd_KAZ
9.04171997 Iranian
9.13035596 Turk_South
9.15427223 Kurd
9.17822423 Lur_Iran
9.40014362 Kurds
9.62036382 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.05372070 Iranian_Fars
10.21768565 Turk_Anatolia
10.42304178 Turk_Central_West
10.76752061 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.11497638 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.37632190 Iran_Khorasan
11.67304588 Armenian_East
Target: Azeri13
Distance: 1.6445% / 1.64454897 | ADC: 0.25x
63.8 Azerbaijani_Turkey
31.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
1.2 Mozabite
0.4 JPT30
0.4 Japanese
0.2 Balkan_Gypsy
Uzbek (Tashkent/Surkhandarya)
Gedrosia 18.67
Siberian 11.17
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asian 1.88
Atlantic_Med 5.59
North_European 15.15
South_Asian 7.80
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 4.88
East_Asian 18.30
Caucasus 15.87
Sub_Saharan 0.69
Distance to: UZ
4.06618986 Uzbek
7.54605857 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
15.92081028 Uygur
16.16206051 Hazara
16.74761177 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
16.89212242 Tajik_Balanovsky2019
18.25251763 Turkmen_Iran
18.34028626 Karakalpak
19.73511084 Tajiks
20.49619721 Turkmens
Target: UZ
Distance: 2.7874% / 2.78738005 | ADC: 0.5x
85.2 Uzbek
9.4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.4 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
1.0 Balkan_Gypsy
Target: UZ
Distance: 1.4604% / 1.46038862 | ADC: 0.25x
88.4 Uzbek
6.8 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
2.2 Saudis
1.8 Balkan_Gypsy
0.6 Yemenese
0.2 ASW30
Mejgusu
05-13-2020, 03:17 PM
The first Auerbaijani has mor SE asian than east asian and siberian. Why smoe azerbaiijanis have proportional to their other east eurasian components high SE-asian?
The first Auerbaijani has mor SE asian than east asian and siberian. Why smoe azerbaiijanis have proportional to their other east eurasian components high SE-asian?
I don't know. Some of these components can be very random and interchangable when <3%. It is visible when you compare parents results to their children.
Mejgusu
05-13-2020, 03:24 PM
I don't know. Some of these components can be very random and interchangable when <3%. It is visible when you compare parents results to their children.
I mean its not surprising having 2-5% se-asian as a turkic, but they have much more east asian/siberian. Some Azerbaijanis( and just them) score sometimes nearly the sane amount of se asian like siberia or east asia, another mystery.
I mean its not surprising having 2-5% se-asian as a turkic, but they have much more east asian/siberian. Some Azerbaijanis( and just them) score sometimes nearly the sane amount of se asian like siberia or east asia, another mystery.
Still think it's random. Look at this result from Kayseri:
Gedrosian: 14.17
Siberian: 1.20
Northwest_African: 0.63
Southeast_Asian: 4.23
Atlantic_Med: 14.81
North_European: 10.28
South_Asian 2.73
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 9.74
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 42.20
SSA: 0.00
Mejgusu
05-13-2020, 03:43 PM
Still think it's random. Look at this result from Kayseri:
Gedrosian: 14.17
Siberian: 1.20
Northwest_African: 0.63
Southeast_Asian: 4.23
Atlantic_Med: 14.81
North_European: 10.28
South_Asian 2.73
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 9.74
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 42.20
SSA: 0.00
Thats very strange. Nearly non east eurasian but that amount se-asian, wow! I wiuld say outlinrr, but i dont think they were that kind of people inside turkic states.
Mejgusu
05-13-2020, 03:50 PM
Yes that sounds logical, nevertheless very curious.
Yes, Kyp is correct, it can be random in small amounts. Also it may depend on the kind of raw data is used.
Chechen
Population
Gedrosia 21.10 Pct
Siberian 2.73 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 3.26 Pct
North_European 22.24 Pct
South_Asian 2.50 Pct
East_African 0.34 Pct
Southwest_Asian 1.49 Pct
East_Asian 0.19 Pct
Caucasus 46.15 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Ahmad
4.57012035 Chechen
5.90189800 Kumyks
6.39542024 Ingush
6.96459618 Balkar
7.21300215 Circassian
7.30504620 Ossetian
8.02037406 Lezgins
8.42493917 Karachay
10.84747436 Avar_Dagestan
10.85421577 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: Ahmad
Distance: 2.6689% / 2.66892573 | ADC: 0.5x
78.4 Chechen
19.0 Adygei
2.2 Lezgins
0.4 Pulliyar
Target: Ahmad
Distance: 1.4915% / 1.49147341 | ADC: 0.25x
60.4 Chechen
24.4 Adygei
12.8 Lezgins
1.8 Pulliyar
0.6 Mordovians
Possibly an Ingush
Population
Gedrosia 20.23 Pct
Siberian 2.47 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.11 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.88 Pct
North_European 18.89 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.49 Pct
East_Asian 0.87 Pct
Caucasus 45.07 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Z.A.
3.45986994 Ingush
4.84913394 Circassian
4.95363503 Balkar
4.98346265 Karachay
5.00279922 Ossetian
5.31449904 Chechen
5.91982263 Kumyks
8.37967183 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.81811082 Qumuq
11.71411115 Avar_Dagestan
Target: Z.A.
Distance: 2.0054% / 2.00536866 | ADC: 0.5x
75.4 Ingush
17.0 Ossetian
5.2 Greek
2.4 Chechen
Target: Z.A.
Distance: 1.2415% / 1.24154896 | ADC: 0.25x
65.8 Ingush
12.2 Chechen
7.8 Adygei
6.8 Circassian
6.4 Greek
1.0 Sardinian
Apparently some Caucasians (Chechens too?). The names look fake but they are close relatives
Population
Gedrosia 23.28 Pct
Siberian 2.90 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.86 Pct
North_European 24.00 Pct
South_Asian 1.24 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.13 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 41.59 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Stella
3.25247598 Chechen
5.18288530 Avar_Dagestan
6.72138379 Avar
6.76365286 Qumuq
7.06176324 Lak
7.08920306 Ingush
7.17324892 Tabasaran
7.66058744 Dargin
7.87975888 Lezgins
8.68699027 Balkar
Target: Stella
Distance: 1.8376% / 1.83761661 | ADC: 1x
75.4 Chechen
24.6 Avar_Dagestan
Target: Stella
Distance: 1.5995% / 1.59946545 | ADC: 0.5x
66.4 Chechen
33.4 Avar_Dagestan
0.2 Lezgins
Target: Stella
Distance: 1.1511% / 1.15107988 | ADC: 0.25x
57.0 Chechen
32.8 Avar_Dagestan
7.2 Lezgins
1.8 Adygei
1.0 Mordovians
0.2 Pulliyar
Population
Gedrosia 24.24 Pct
Siberian 2.77 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.38 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.65 Pct
North_European 24.97 Pct
South_Asian 1.46 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.50 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 38.03 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: G.
1.65502266 Avar_Dagestan
4.08614733 Avar
4.39823828 Tabasaran
4.57650522 Dargin
5.02006972 Lak
5.51405477 Qumuq
6.91452095 Chechen
10.02608598 Ingush
10.75085113 Lezgins
10.85623323 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: G.
Distance: 1.2847% / 1.28468902 | ADC: 0.5x
91.4 Avar_Dagestan
8.0 Chechen
0.6 Bulgarians
Target: G.
Distance: 0.8032% / 0.80323450 | ADC: 0.25x
93.8 Avar_Dagestan
4.8 Adygei
0.6 Bulgarians
0.6 Sardinian
0.2 BONDA
A repost from the previous thread, I just find him very interesting - a Pamiri Tajik from Khorugh
Photo 1 (https://i.ibb.co/tLch2Bs/Olimsho-1.jpg)
Photo 2 (https://i.ibb.co/QH07PVf/Olimsho-2.jpg)
Gedrosia 31.85
Siberian 4.44
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asian 0.84
Atlantic_Med 6.12
North_European 23.77
South_Asian 10.44
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 1.57
East_Asian 0.42
Caucasus 20.56
Sub_Saharan 0
Distance to: O.O.
5.20590050 Pamiri_Tajik
6.82245557 Yagnobi
9.87068893 Tajik_Balanovsky2019
10.50150942 Tajiks
12.73483804 AFG_Pashtun
14.47033172 AFG_Tajik
17.99732202 Kalash
19.02257080 Tabasaran
19.34740034 Avar
19.35482110 Dargin
Target: O.O.
Distance: 3.3341% / 3.33409063 | ADC: 0.5x
69.0 Pamiri_Tajik
26.2 Yagnobi
4.8 Dargin
Target: O.O.
Distance: 2.4369% / 2.43692318 | ADC: 0.25x
55.0 Pamiri_Tajik
21.0 Yagnobi
11.8 Dargin
10.4 Kalash
1.8 Rus_Tver
He is very Aryan (NE + AM = 30%). Too bad there is no Y DNA info on him.
Thambi
05-13-2020, 11:23 PM
Can we start posting pictures on this thread? I think it'll be interesting to see correlation between the results and phenos. Its up to you guys though
Can we start posting pictures on this thread? I think it'll be interesting to see correlation between the results and phenos. Its up to you guys though
Of course you can and that's a great idea. Unfortunately we don't have photos of most kit owners. At least I don't.
Thambi
05-13-2020, 11:30 PM
Of course you can and that's a great idea. Unfortunately we don't have photos of most kit owners. At least I don't.
we could search up by their names on social media like facebook, insta, linkedin. most of these people live in the west for sure so thats a good hint as well if there's a person with a particular name that's found in asia too.
Thambi
05-13-2020, 11:34 PM
Afghan Hazara
https://i.imgur.com/O4qaIBc.jpg
Kit MH8525468
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 26.27
2 Gedrosia 19.89
3 Siberian 14.92
4 North_European 10.77
5 Caucasus 10.68
6 South_Asian 6.73
7 Southeast_Asian 3.9
8 Atlantic_Med 3.66
9 Southwest_Asian 3.19
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hazara (HGDP) 5.03
2 Uygur (HGDP) 7.74
3 Uzbeks (Behar) 8.36
4 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 26.81
5 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 27.88
6 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 31.45
7 Altai (Rasmussen) 32.62
8 Mongol (Rasmussen) 33.99
9 Burusho (HGDP) 36.07
10 Pathan (HGDP) 41.13
11 Iranians (Behar) 41.78
12 Iranian (Dodecad) 42.08
13 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 42.21
14 Kurd (Dodecad) 42.65
15 Turks (Behar) 43.26
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 44.11
17 Tuva (Rasmussen) 44.15
18 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 44.4
19 Buryat (Rasmussen) 44.46
20 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 44.53
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.9% Hazara (HGDP) + 8.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.63
2 92% Hazara (HGDP) + 8% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.64
3 92.2% Hazara (HGDP) + 7.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.74
4 92.1% Hazara (HGDP) + 7.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.81
5 92.3% Hazara (HGDP) + 7.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.84
6 92.5% Hazara (HGDP) + 7.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.98
7 92.3% Hazara (HGDP) + 7.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.99
8 92.4% Hazara (HGDP) + 7.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.01
9 92.4% Hazara (HGDP) + 7.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 3.01
10 92.5% Hazara (HGDP) + 7.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.03
11 92.8% Hazara (HGDP) + 7.2% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.04
12 93.1% Hazara (HGDP) + 6.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.04
13 92.7% Hazara (HGDP) + 7.3% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 3.05
14 92.9% Hazara (HGDP) + 7.1% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.08
15 87.6% Hazara (HGDP) + 12.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.13
16 92.7% Hazara (HGDP) + 7.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.18
17 87.2% Hazara (HGDP) + 12.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.19
18 93.3% Hazara (HGDP) + 6.7% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 3.2
19 93.5% Hazara (HGDP) + 6.5% German (Dodecad) @ 3.2
20 92.7% Hazara (HGDP) + 7.3% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.24
we could search up by their names on social media like facebook, insta, linkedin. most of these people live in the west for sure so thats a good hint as well if there's a person with a particular name that's found in asia too.
Yes, I've done that multiple times. But not all can be found.
Dr_Maul
05-13-2020, 11:47 PM
btw, are there any threads for the ancient calcs as well? like puntDNal k12, Ancient Eurasia K6 etc
Thambi
05-13-2020, 11:48 PM
Orissa/Bengali
Picture (https://scontent.fapa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36295433_1891589954195234_2528269555768229888_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=85a577&_nc_ohc=exdFrot5aB0AX-8EV87&_nc_ht=scontent.fapa1-1.fna&oh=012fed43f910e9d880c13dab48d94b7f&oe=5ECE7D42)
Kit ZT5696533
# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 56.43
2 Gedrosia 25.94
3 Southeast_Asian 8.74
4 North_European 5.68
5 East_Asian 2.24
6 Siberian 0.96
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Tharus (Metspalu) 10.04
2 Muslim (Metspalu) 11.76
3 Dusadh (Metspalu) 12.02
4 Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) 12.09
5 Kanjars (Metspalu) 12.16
6 Dharkars (Metspalu) 12.29
7 Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) 12.98
8 INS30 (SGVP) 13.76
9 Kol (Metspalu) 13.77
10 Chenchus (Metspalu) 14.49
11 Kurumba (Metspalu) 14.58
12 Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) 15.28
13 Velamas (Metspalu) 15.59
14 Iyengar (Dodecad) 15.72
15 GIH30 (Dodecad) 15.84
16 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 16.59
17 Iyer (Dodecad) 16.74
18 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 16.74
19 Indian (Dodecad) 17.08
20 SAKILLI (Behar) 17.09
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.4% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 32.6% Savara (Chaubey) @ 2.95
2 67.4% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 32.6% Ho (Chaubey) @ 2.96
3 67.6% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 32.4% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 3.02
4 70.4% Iyengar (Dodecad) + 29.6% Juang (Chaubey) @ 3.16
5 85.6% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) + 14.4% PANIYA (Behar) @ 3.17
6 70.5% Iyengar (Dodecad) + 29.5% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 3.2
7 69% Iyengar (Dodecad) + 31% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 3.32
8 67.2% Indian (Dodecad) + 32.8% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 3.37
9 67% Indian (Dodecad) + 33% Savara (Chaubey) @ 3.42
10 76.6% Muslim (Metspalu) + 23.4% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 3.52
11 76.6% Muslim (Metspalu) + 23.4% Juang (Chaubey) @ 3.58
12 67.1% Indian (Dodecad) + 32.9% Ho (Chaubey) @ 3.59
13 68.9% Iyengar (Dodecad) + 31.1% Savara (Chaubey) @ 3.6
14 88.7% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) + 11.3% MAS30 (SGVP) @ 3.69
15 76.1% Kanjars (Metspalu) + 23.9% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 3.71
16 67.9% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) + 32.1% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 3.71
17 67.7% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) + 32.3% Savara (Chaubey) @ 3.72
18 67.9% Gond (Metspalu) + 32.1% Burusho (HGDP) @ 3.73
19 76% Kanjars (Metspalu) + 24% Juang (Chaubey) @ 3.76
20 88.8% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) + 11.2% Lahu (HGDP) @ 3.77
btw, are there any threads for the ancient calcs as well? like puntDNal k12, Ancient Eurasia K6 etc
There are threads for those calcs ("post your X results") but I think they aren't very good, those calculators you mentioned.
Thambi
05-13-2020, 11:50 PM
Yes, I've done that multiple times. But not all can be found.
yeah true. but try to share the ones you could find. when their names are not available, cant find on social media,etc we can just share the results.
Kaspias
05-14-2020, 12:00 AM
Yörük from Mersin
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.5
2 North_European 13.17
3 Atlantic_Med 12.61
4 Gedrosia 11.94
5 Siberian 11.84
6 East_Asian 9.38
7 Southwest_Asian 6.61
8 South_Asian 1.71
9 Northwest_African 0.23
10 Southeast_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 13.22
2 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.55
3 Turks (Behar) 17.71
4 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 18.42
5 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 20.68
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 22.74
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 23.62
8 Greek (Dodecad) 24.27
9 Iranian (Dodecad) 24.46
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.46
11 Uzbeks (Behar) 24.66
12 Kurd (Dodecad) 24.85
13 Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.9
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 25.1
15 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 25.31
16 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 25.57
17 Lebanese (Behar) 25.89
18 Iranians (Behar) 26.52
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 26.84
20 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 27.04
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 26.02
2 East_Med 18.55
3 Siberian 14.9
4 North_Atlantic 14.09
5 West_Med 9.76
6 East_Asian 6.28
7 Baltic 5.06
8 Red_Sea 2.46
9 South_Asian 2.25
10 Oceanian 0.26
11 Amerindian 0.24
12 Sub-Saharan 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Nogay 12.89
2 Turkmen 14.36
3 Turkish 17.25
4 Afghan_Turkmen 19.16
5 Azeri 19.64
6 Kumyk 20.79
7 Afghan_Tadjik 21.41
8 Balkar 21.48
9 Tadjik 21.91
10 Kabardin 22.34
11 Aghan_Hazara 22.71
12 Uzbeki 22.86
13 Italian_Abruzzo 23.89
14 Ossetian 23.91
15 Central_Greek 24.14
16 Adygei 24.7
17 North_Ossetian 24.73
18 Kurdish 24.76
19 East_Sicilian 24.86
20 South_Italian 25.28
Either a turkic survivor from Turkey or mixed with Tatar:
YDNA according to Morley: R1a
Gedrosian: 12.08
Siberian: 8.88
Northwest_African: 0.20
Southeast_Asian: 2.00
Atlantic_Med: 12.29
North_European: 16.83
South_Asian 1.03
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 7.31
East_Asian: 9.45
Caucasian: 29.44
SSA: 0.49
Distance to: Turk56
7.55642111 Turk_Northwest
8.54356483 Yoruk
9.59627532 Turk_Southwest
10.37802486 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
11.51689628 Turk_West_BlackSea
12.80259739 Turk_Anatolia
13.18236701 Turk_South
13.32298015 Turk_Central_West
14.32749106 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
14.37917244 Nogais
15.86195763 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
16.16781061 Turkmen_Iran
16.21539084 Turk_Central_East
16.28980970 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
17.25705653 Turk_Southeast
17.33391185 Qumuq
17.56517577 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
18.13818899 Azerbaijani
18.53269543 Turk_Bulgaria
18.70450480 Karachay
18.82974509 Azerbaijani_Turkey
18.83623901 Turk_Greece
19.57288430 Turkmens
19.67115401 Balkar
19.85446046 Azerbaijani_Iran
Target: Turk56
Distance: 1.0624% / 1.06243116 | ADC: 0.25x
65.8 Turk_Northwest
19.2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
9.4 Nogais
2.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.2 Karakalpak
0.8 CHS30
A Soviet Muslim name but he can't be Azerbaijani
Population
Gedrosia 21.36 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.46 Pct
North_European 9.25 Pct
South_Asian 1.20 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.14 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 51.59 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: S.S.
3.35305831 Turk_Ahiska
7.92808930 Abkhazian
8.39496873 Armenian_East
8.63618550 Turk_East
8.65378530 Georgian_Turkey
8.69684426 Laz
8.72306139 Hemshin
8.98198753 Georgian_Adjara
9.00006667 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.08566453 Georgian_Imereti
Target: S.S.
Distance: 2.4333% / 2.43331618 | ADC: 0.5x
89.8 Turk_Ahiska
10.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: S.S.
Distance: 1.6124% / 1.61236946 | ADC: 0.25x
83.2 Turk_Ahiska
7.0 Lezgins
5.6 Iran_Mazandaran
3.0 Georgian_Adjara
1.2 French_Basque
Two Armenians
R1b L23
J1b
Population
Gedrosia 19.36 Pct
Siberian 0.62 Pct
Northwest_African 0.42 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.27 Pct
North_European 4.72 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 16.34 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 48.29 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Yalen
2.60865866 Armenian_East
3.56624452 Armenian_West
4.79368334 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.07766679 Assyrian
5.85844689 Azerbaijan_Jews
6.08772536 Georgia_Jews
6.20913037 Turk_East
8.70122980 Iranian_Jews
9.01518164 Zaza
9.03643182 Greek_Pontus
Target: Yalen
Distance: 1.4557% / 1.45574451 | ADC: 1x
79.8 Armenian_East
11.4 Assyrian
8.8 Uzbekistan_Jews
Target: Yalen
Distance: 1.0075% / 1.00746469 | ADC: 0.5x
67.8 Armenian_East
18.4 Assyrian
13.8 Uzbekistan_Jews
Target: Yalen
Distance: 0.9648% / 0.96482478 | ADC: 0.25x
64.4 Armenian_East
20.4 Assyrian
15.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
Population
Gedrosia 17.48 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 2.22 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.24 Pct
North_European 6.48 Pct
South_Asian 0.71 Pct
East_African 0.47 Pct
Southwest_Asian 16.62 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 46.54 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.24 Pct
Distance to: Sevag
4.46462764 Armenian_East
4.73089843 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.54915309 Armenian_West
5.61892338 Turk_East
6.92158219 Assyrian
7.17788270 Georgia_Jews
8.35520197 Azerbaijan_Jews
8.80893297 Zaza
9.65180812 Iranian_Jews
9.78044478 Turkmen_Iraq
Target: Sevag
Distance: 2.0834% / 2.08335527 | ADC: 0.5x
43.4 Armenian_East
32.6 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.0 Turk_East
11.0 Lebanese
Target: Sevag
Distance: 1.0263% / 1.02633812 | ADC: 0.25x
47.6 Armenian_East
30.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
10.6 Lebanese
9.0 Georgia_Jews
1.6 Lithuanian
0.6 Mozabite
0.4 Adygei
Crimean Tatar originally posted by Kaspias. Was he used as a reference?
Gedrosia 9.93
Siberian 12.04
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asian 2.42
Atlantic_Med 11.03
North_European 25.38
South_Asian 1.60
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 4.79
East_Asian 15.05
Caucasus 17.74
Sub_Saharan 0
Distance to: Tatar
1.95286968 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
14.71393557 Uzbek
17.08424420 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
17.47194036 Bashkir
20.59839800 Tatar_Kazan
20.60085192 Karakalpak
21.48496916 Turk_Bulgaria
21.54162714 Turk_Romania
22.08897236 Nogais
22.23197922 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
Target: Tatar
Distance: 1.5500% / 1.55002053 | ADC: 0.5x
96.8 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
3.2 Nogais
Target: Tatar
Distance: 0.9485% / 0.94851814 | ADC: 0.25x
93.6 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
4.6 Nogais
1.2 Saudis
0.4 Mixed_Slav
0.2 Uzbek
Thambi
05-14-2020, 08:33 PM
Nepali Gurung - 83% tibetic, 17% indic
Her Picture (https://i.imgur.com/kWfjbwV.jpg)
Kit XB8642061
# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 55.68
2 Southeast_Asian 15.65
3 South_Asian 13.94
4 Siberian 10.63
5 Gedrosia 3.4
6 East_African 0.33
7 Northwest_African 0.23
8 Atlantic_Med 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Tu (HGDP) 16.44
2 Mongola (HGDP) 17.76
3 Naxi (HGDP) 20.26
4 Yizu (HGDP) 20.58
5 Xibo (HGDP) 21.1
6 Naga (Metspalu) 21.34
7 Hezhen (HGDP) 24.31
8 CHB30 (Metspalu) 26.91
9 Chinese (Dodecad) 27.66
10 Daur (HGDP) 28.82
11 Garo (Chaubey) 29.91
12 Burmanese (Chaubey) 32.04
13 CHD30 (Metspalu) 32.12
14 Tujia (HGDP) 32.98
15 Uygur (HGDP) 35.37
16 Han (HGDP) 35.59
17 Korean (Dodecad) 36.25
18 Mongol (Rasmussen) 36.69
19 Hazara (HGDP) 37.7
20 She (HGDP) 39.15
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.8% Mongola (HGDP) + 17.2% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 4.08
2 83.9% Tu (HGDP) + 16.1% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 4.19
3 84.4% Tu (HGDP) + 15.6% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 4.22
4 82.7% Mongola (HGDP) + 17.3% Ho (Chaubey) @ 4.3
5 82.6% Mongola (HGDP) + 17.4% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 4.35
6 82.6% Mongola (HGDP) + 17.4% Savara (Chaubey) @ 4.41
7 83.7% Tu (HGDP) + 16.3% Gond (Metspalu) @ 4.68
8 79.4% Xibo (HGDP) + 20.6% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 4.71
9 79.4% Xibo (HGDP) + 20.6% Juang (Chaubey) @ 4.73
10 85.2% Tu (HGDP) + 14.8% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 4.75
11 84.1% Tu (HGDP) + 15.9% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 4.76
12 82.9% Mongola (HGDP) + 17.1% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 4.8
13 84.5% Tu (HGDP) + 15.5% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 4.9
14 82.3% Mongola (HGDP) + 17.7% Juang (Chaubey) @ 4.93
15 82.6% Mongola (HGDP) + 17.4% Gond (Metspalu) @ 4.94
16 82.3% Mongola (HGDP) + 17.7% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 4.95
17 79.9% Xibo (HGDP) + 20.1% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 4.95
18 84.2% Tu (HGDP) + 15.8% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 5.03
19 83.5% Mongola (HGDP) + 16.5% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 5.26
20 80% Xibo (HGDP) + 20% Savara (Chaubey) @ 5.31
Thambi
05-14-2020, 09:20 PM
Bengali - 15% East Eurasian
Her Pic (https://scontent.fapa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/65792509_1227586500752634_4515190769144823808_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=85a577&_nc_ohc=u9tuBTNXuTgAX-xKUeS&_nc_ht=scontent.fapa1-1.fna&oh=e35a142f9897ad7125b205079a36aab7&oe=5EE53B1F)
Kit M906246
# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 48.86
2 Gedrosia 28.17
3 East_Asian 6.34
4 Southeast_Asian 6.18
5 North_European 4.35
6 Siberian 2.59
7 Atlantic_Med 1.24
8 Caucasus 1.21
9 East_African 1.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Tharus (Metspalu) 11.34
2 Muslim (Metspalu) 12.61
3 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 12.66
4 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 12.88
5 Dharkars (Metspalu) 13.18
6 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 13.47
7 Kanjars (Metspalu) 13.52
8 Indian (Dodecad) 13.56
9 INS30 (SGVP) 13.77
10 Iyer (Dodecad) 13.79
11 Iyengar (Dodecad) 14.07
12 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 14.98
13 GIH30 (Dodecad) 15.07
14 Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) 15.93
15 Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) 16.34
16 Dusadh (Metspalu) 16.42
17 Velamas (Metspalu) 16.48
18 Kurumba (Metspalu) 18.25
19 Chenchus (Metspalu) 19.17
20 Kol (Metspalu) 19.3
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.6% Dharkars (Metspalu) + 18.4% Burmanese (Chaubey) @ 2.59
2 82.1% Dharkars (Metspalu) + 17.9% Garo (Chaubey) @ 2.69
3 84.1% Tharus (Metspalu) + 15.9% Burmanese (Chaubey) @ 3.22
4 86.8% Dharkars (Metspalu) + 13.2% Miaozu (HGDP) @ 3.39
5 86.8% Dharkars (Metspalu) + 13.2% CHS30 (SGVP) @ 3.39
6 86.8% Dharkars (Metspalu) + 13.2% She (HGDP) @ 3.43
7 84.5% Tharus (Metspalu) + 15.5% Garo (Chaubey) @ 3.47
8 88.6% Tharus (Metspalu) + 11.4% She (HGDP) @ 3.52
9 88.6% Tharus (Metspalu) + 11.4% Han (HGDP) @ 3.52
10 88.6% Tharus (Metspalu) + 11.4% CHS30 (SGVP) @ 3.56
11 88.6% Tharus (Metspalu) + 11.4% Miaozu (HGDP) @ 3.56
12 86.9% Dharkars (Metspalu) + 13.1% Han (HGDP) @ 3.59
13 88.7% Tharus (Metspalu) + 11.3% Tujia (HGDP) @ 3.61
14 82.6% Muslim (Metspalu) + 17.4% Burmanese (Chaubey) @ 3.61
15 88.8% Tharus (Metspalu) + 11.2% CHD30 (Metspalu) @ 3.65
16 81.5% Kanjars (Metspalu) + 18.5% Burmanese (Chaubey) @ 3.68
17 87% Dharkars (Metspalu) + 13% Tujia (HGDP) @ 3.82
18 81.7% INS30 (SGVP) + 18.3% Garo (Chaubey) @ 3.83
19 87.1% Dharkars (Metspalu) + 12.9% CHD30 (Metspalu) @ 3.93
20 82% Kanjars (Metspalu) + 18% Garo (Chaubey) @ 3.95
Yazidi Kurd from Mardin
they seem to be pure West-Iranoids, I'll give Eline that
Gedrosian: 28.10
Siberian: 0.18
Northwest_African: 0.72
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.82
North_European: 6.18
South_Asian 3.20
East_African 0.50
Southwest_Asian: 13.13
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 41.16
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Yazidi_Mardin
2.90139622 Iranian
2.91020618 Kurd_KAZ
3.16482227 Kurds
3.18215336 Kurd
3.51907658 Talysh_Azerbaijan
3.59252001 Lur_Iran
4.94592762 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.99627862 Zaza
5.57163351 Kurd_Sorani
5.99483945 Iranians
6.76166400 Iran_Mazandaran
7.46244598 Iranian_Fars
7.98514871 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.00759639 Turkmen_Iraq
9.74158611 Azerbaijani
9.82585874 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.87809192 Iran_Central_East
10.76178888 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.15826468 Turk_East
12.38897897 Turk_Southeast
12.49815586 Iran_Khorasan
12.76426653 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.18053868 Armenian_East
14.39881940 Assyrian
15.11544574 Turk_Central_East
Target: Yazidi_Mardin
Distance: 1.1579% / 1.15794300 | ADC: 0.25x
23.8 Kurd_KAZ
23.4 Iran_Mazandaran
17.6 Zaza
17.2 Kurds
17.2 Lur_Iran
0.8 Sardinian
= 99.2 Iranoid
harutsafaryan07
05-16-2020, 05:50 PM
some Armenians from Diaspora apparently from Russia
Distance to: Armenian_from_Diaspora 1
3.52237136 Armenian_East
4.48223159 Turk_East
6.02502282 Turk_Ahiska
6.94210343 Armenian_West
7.35597036 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.27276858 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.33880687 Georgia_Jews
8.46930930 Zaza
9.23538305 Azerbaijan_Jews
9.26362240 Hemshin
9.32976956 Greek_Pontus
9.53862674 Assyrian
9.98533425 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.06890759 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.09369110 Laz
10.54903787 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.90205027 Kurd_KAZ
11.05752233 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.40100434 Turk_Central_East
11.50800156 Azerbaijani
11.61569197 Kurds
11.72685806 Turkmen_Iraq
11.83846274 Turk_Southeast
11.85287307 Georgian_Adjara
11.88634931 Georgian_Turkey
Distance to: Armenian_from_Diaspora 2
3.87029715 Armenian_East
5.82875630 Georgia_Jews
6.15553410 Turk_Ahiska
6.31236089 Armenian_West
6.63812474 Turk_East
6.67920654 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.55180773 Azerbaijan_Jews
7.60011842 Hemshin
7.63146775 Greek_Pontus
7.91099235 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.59941277 Laz
8.81130524 Assyrian
10.76071094 Georgian_Adjara
10.81338060 Georgian_Turkey
11.06886625 Iranian_Jews
11.20307547 Zaza
12.31630220 Georgian_Imereti
12.39284471 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.70786371 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.82379819 Abkhazian
12.87718137 Iraq_Jews
12.88513873 Greek_Cappadocia
12.91327611 Georgian_Gurian
13.09658734 Turk_Central_East
13.24068352 Kurd_Kurmanji
Distance to: Armenian_from_Diaspora 3
4.52972405 Turk_East
5.54219271 Armenian_East
6.49559851 Zaza
6.55728602 Armenian_West
7.30166419 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.21099263 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.61056909 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.87422673 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.90918627 Assyrian
9.33105567 Turkmen_Iraq
9.38091680 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.70737349 Turk_Ahiska
9.73006166 Kurd_KAZ
9.92120456 Azerbaijan_Jews
10.03080754 Azerbaijani
10.14938422 Turk_Southeast
10.23897944 Kurd_Sorani
10.30933073 Kurds
10.31160996 Turk_Central_East
10.60165553 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.83079406 Georgia_Jews
11.03846004 Greek_Pontus
11.49340246 Kurd
11.68055649 Lur_Iran
11.96247884 Hemshin
Distance to: Armenian_from_Diaspora 4
3.76497012 Turk_East
3.78759818 Armenian_East
7.06825297 Armenian_West
7.07336554 Uzbekistan_Jews
7.19874295 Turk_Ahiska
7.49407766 Zaza
9.05923286 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.16544052 Georgia_Jews
9.29503631 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.46707452 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.49602022 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.61800395 Assyrian
9.95743441 Azerbaijan_Jews
10.07258656 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.21156207 Greek_Pontus
10.33533260 Kurd_KAZ
10.43891278 Turk_Central_East
10.44842093 Azerbaijani
10.53906542 Hemshin
10.64116535 Turkmen_Iraq
10.72012127 Turk_Southeast
10.94232608 Kurds
11.32367873 Kurd_Sorani
11.35609968 Laz
12.46065408 Greek_Cappadocia
Distance to: Armenian_from_Diaspora 5
4.60674505 Turk_East
5.22275789 Armenian_East
5.91065986 Zaza
6.68392100 Uzbekistan_Jews
6.78958762 Armenian_West
7.92750276 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.33833317 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.71142927 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.74020023 Assyrian
8.80580490 Kurd_KAZ
9.07489945 Turk_Ahiska
9.24381415 Turkmen_Iraq
9.29294356 Kurds
9.36900742 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.74663019 Azerbaijan_Jews
9.97403629 Kurd_Sorani
10.03257694 Azerbaijani
10.30562953 Georgia_Jews
10.42894530 Turk_Southeast
10.68020599 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.78773377 Turk_Central_East
10.84973732 Kurd
11.17715975 Greek_Pontus
11.42345394 Lur_Iran
11.58787297 Iranian
Distance to: Armenian_from_Diaspora 6
2.52055549 Armenian_East
3.96753072 Armenian_West
5.05087121 Turk_East
6.74360438 Uzbekistan_Jews
7.10353433 Azerbaijan_Jews
7.23664978 Assyrian
7.44459536 Georgia_Jews
7.67201408 Turk_Ahiska
7.74294518 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.99720576 Greek_Pontus
8.97489276 Zaza
8.99108447 Hemshin
9.95735407 Laz
10.93179766 Iranian_Jews
10.95289916 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.99510346 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.16750644 Greek_Cappadocia
11.17892660 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.47074540 Kurd_KAZ
11.58811029 Turkmen_Iraq
11.87489789 Turk_Central_East
11.92519602 Georgian_Adjara
11.98630468 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.03612064 Kurds
12.26274439 Turk_Southeast
some Armenians from Diaspora apparently from Russia
Why some of them so close to Turks/Azeris and Kurds?
harutsafaryan07
05-16-2020, 06:03 PM
Why some of them so close to Turks/Azeris and Kurds?I noticed it too but I definitely cant say why
Отправлено с моего DLI-TL20 через Tapatalk
Arsen_
05-17-2020, 05:18 AM
Why some of them so close to Turks/Azeris and Kurds?
Is that rocket science for you? Because these "Turks/Azeris and Kurds" are just assimilated Armenians.
Someone presumably from Turkey
Population
Gedrosia 22.48 Pct
Siberian 3.51 Pct
Northwest_African 0.61 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.93 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.65 Pct
North_European 13.81 Pct
South_Asian 0.57 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.93 Pct
East_Asian 1.71 Pct
Caucasus 39.79 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Kerem
4.81662745 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
6.80412375 Azerbaijani
6.92137270 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.95543672 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.70292480 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.81177054 Ingush
8.89152405 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.94363461 Zaza
9.43815660 Turk_Southeast
10.32206859 Turk_Central_East
Target: Kerem
Distance: 2.1887% / 2.18873776 | ADC: 0.5x
63.4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
25.2 Azerbaijani
5.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.6 Turk_South
1.2 Azerbaijani_Turkey
Target: Kerem
Distance: 1.3777% / 1.37766621 | ADC: 0.25x
66.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
16.8 Turk_South
9.6 Kurds
2.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.2 Lebanese
1.6 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
0.6 Saudis
0.6 Selkup
0.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
Chechen
Population
Gedrosia 21.76 Pct
Siberian 3.19 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 3.88 Pct
North_European 24.71 Pct
South_Asian 1.36 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.80 Pct
East_Asian 1.27 Pct
Caucasus 42.03 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Magomed
3.77616207 Chechen
6.49800739 Avar_Dagestan
7.28814105 Qumuq
7.55339659 Ingush
7.77140914 Balkar
7.98809114 Avar
8.00460492 Lak
8.16685986 Kumyks
8.33988010 Lezgins
8.34543588 Tabasaran
Target: Magomed
Distance: 2.4219% / 2.42188655 | ADC: 0.5x
89.4 Chechen
7.8 Lak
2.6 Mordovians
0.2 Nogais
Target: Magomed
Distance: 1.2184% / 1.21835459 | ADC: 0.25x
73.2 Chechen
17.2 Lezgins
4.8 Mordovians
3.8 Nogais
0.6 Pulliyar
0.4 North_Ossetians
Apparently half Russian half Dagestani. The "Moldovan" percentage can be split between the Dag and Russian sides.
Population
Gedrosia 15.67 Pct
Siberian 2.38 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.73 Pct
Atlantic_Med 14.75 Pct
North_European 40.75 Pct
South_Asian 0.15 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.66 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 23.91 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Target: Maria
Distance: 1.4188% / 1.41878223 | ADC: 0.25x
43.6 Dargin
33.2 Rus_Smolensk
20.0 R.Moldova_Centre+North
3.2 Tatar_Kazan
Azerbaijani (100%) from Zaqatala region:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Zaqatala_in_Azerbaijan.svg
Gedrosian: 23.43
Siberian: 2.94
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.48
Atlantic_Med: 5.62
North_European: 17.12
South_Asian 0.55
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 7.31
East_Asian: 2.37
Caucasian: 40.11
SSA: 0.07
Distance to: Azeri23
2.19658826 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
5.68656311 Ingush
7.25033792 Qumuq
7.53567515 Chechen
8.61585747 Balkar
8.70829490 Karachay
8.83471562 Kumyks
9.69207924 Circassian
10.12609994 Ossetian
10.58355800 Avar_Dagestan
10.72409437 Azerbaijani
10.83786879 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.01429526 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.31251961 Tabasaran
11.35993838 Avar
11.93917920 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.69212748 Lak
12.76631897 Zaza
12.87835781 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.12380280 Lezgins
13.14903038 Dargin
13.41105887 Turk_Southeast
13.60899335 Turk_South
13.71531990 Turk_Central_East
13.80489768 Iran_Khorasan
Target: Azeri23
Distance: 1.0575% / 1.05748536 | ADC: 0.25x
73.4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.4 Qumuq
10.6 Ingush
2.0 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
0.6 Saudis
0.6 Xibo
0.4 Balkar
Azerbaijani (100%) from Zaqatala region:
Very interesing. I tried reducing the number of pops, still pretty small distances (I recommend you do that too)
Target: Zaqatala
Distance: 2.1192% / 2.11916008 | ADC: 1x
98.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.4 Qumuq
Target: Zaqatala
Distance: 1.5656% / 1.56558445 | ADC: 0.5x
85.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.4 Qumuq
4.8 Balkar
And then I deleted the Azerbaijani Dagestan:
Target: Zaqatala
Distance: 1.5967% / 1.59668257 | ADC: 0.5x
42.2 Ingush
35.4 Qumuq
11.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.0 Kurd
2.0 Kurds
This person seems to be very North Caucasian-shifted. Mixed with Lezgins or Avars.
Turk from Tunceli
Gedrosian: 20.18
Siberian: 2.76
Northwest_African: 1.31
Southeast_Asian: 0.39
Atlantic_Med: 8.15
North_European: 8.70
South_Asian 1.08
East_African 0.50
Southwest_Asian: 12.68
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 44.23
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Tunceli
4.23644898 Turk_East
5.28192200 Zaza
5.82681731 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.53266408 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.69264522 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.93625259 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.19678400 Armenian_East
7.20038888 Azerbaijani
7.67557164 Uzbekistan_Jews
7.99615533 Turk_Southeast
8.45971631 Turk_Central_East
8.47308090 Turkmen_Iraq
8.52254657 Kurd_KAZ
8.89764014 Kurd_Sorani
9.22997291 Kurds
9.90650291 Turk_Ahiska
10.11532995 Armenian_West
10.28739034 Kurd
10.40274483 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.61020264 Iranian
10.71355683 Turk_South
11.02926561 Lur_Iran
11.47814445 Turk_Anatolia
11.48283937 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.55486478 Assyrian
Target: Tunceli
Distance: 2.4356% / 2.43559285 | ADC: 0.5x
60.4 Turk_East
29.0 Zaza
8.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
2.0 Uzbekistan_Jews
User Kerem_turc (Zaza)
Population
Gedrosia 23.26
Siberian 1.08
Northwest_African 0.42
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.28
North_European 7.91
South_Asian 3.97
East_African 1.15
Southwest_Asian 15.31
East_Asian -
Caucasus 42.63
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Kerem_turc
4.82260303 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.27365149 Zaza
5.56687525 Kurd_Sorani
5.72839419 Kurd_KAZ
5.83499786 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.56591959 Kurds
7.20417934 Lur_Iran
7.28322044 Iranian
7.30072599 Turkmen_Iraq
7.33113907 Azerbaijani_Iran
Target: Kerem_turc
Distance: 2.0679% / 2.06792133 | ADC: 0.25x
31.8 Kurd_Sorani
20.6 Iran_Mazandaran
20.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.0 North_Ossetians
3.6 Yemen_Jews
Azeri from Masallı
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Masally_in_Azerbaijan.svg/1200px-Masally_in_Azerbaijan.svg.png
Gedrosian: 22.26
Siberian: 3.47
Northwest_African: 0.52
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 8.50
North_European: 9.32
South_Asian 3.23
East_African 0.17
Southwest_Asian: 12.15
East_Asian: 3.52
Caucasian: 36.61
SSA: 0.24
Distance to: Azer_Masalli
2.70453323 Azerbaijani
3.15442546 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.49451888 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.49423334 Turk_Southeast
5.98939062 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.26269922 Turkmen_Iraq
7.33079123 Kurd_Sorani
7.38251989 Zaza
7.68785406 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.13869768 Turk_South
8.60749092 Turk_Central_East
8.62913089 Iranian_Fars
8.78475384 Iran_Khorasan
9.36534570 Iranian
9.49757337 Turk_Anatolia
9.49765234 Lur_Iran
9.54137831 Iran_Central_East
9.67088414 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.71121517 Kurd
9.75380951 Turk_Central_West
10.23453467 Kurd_KAZ
10.42668212 Kurds
10.56054449 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.01015895 Turk_East
11.40524879 Iranians
Target: Azer_Masalli
Distance: 1.4470% / 1.44697070 | ADC: 0.5x
84.4 Azerbaijani
10.0 Iran_Khorasan
2.4 Iran_Central_East
2.0 Turkmens
1.2 Turkmen_Iran
Azeri from Masallı
Interesting to see a Southern Azerbaijani (south of the country). Exactly 7 percent Mongoloid.
Azerbaijani from Ayrumlu tribe (Kars/Iranian West-Azerbaijani + Rep Azerbaijani)
Gedrosian: 19.27
Siberian: 8.78
Northwest_African: 0.20
Southeast_Asian: 1.23
Atlantic_Med: 8.49
North_European: 8.00
South_Asian 1.85
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 8.90
East_Asian: 8.85
Caucasian: 34.43
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Azer_ayrumlu
6.82451463 Yoruk
8.33044417 Turk_South
9.03189349 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.70426710 Turk_Anatolia
9.73045734 Turk_Southwest
9.93753491 Azerbaijani
10.23971679 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.33742231 Turk_Southeast
10.62789255 Turk_Central_West
10.70519500 Turkmen_Iran
10.70946777 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.93888477 Turk_Central_East
11.54832455 Turk_Northwest
11.91836398 Turk_West_BlackSea
12.33851288 Turkmens
12.64778241 Iran_Khorasan
14.30669424 Kurd_Kurmanji
14.48413270 Turkmen_Iraq
15.16807832 Talysh_Azerbaijan
15.19589089 Zaza
15.60510173 Kurd_Sorani
15.64074167 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.71493557 Iranian_Fars
15.88318923 Turk_East
16.09863348 Iran_Central_East
Target: Azer_ayrumlu
Distance: 1.7420% / 1.74198711 | ADC: 0.25x
54.2 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
30.0 Turkmens
6.0 Yoruk
4.8 Kurd
2.8 Oroqen
2.2 Buryat
Chechen
J1 & H
Population
Gedrosia 22.70 Pct
Siberian 2.98 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 2.46 Pct
North_European 21.96 Pct
South_Asian 0.75 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.15 Pct
East_Asian 1.10 Pct
Caucasus 45.40 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.51 Pct
Distance to: Mountain_Cliff
3.37347002 Chechen
5.29685756 Kumyks
5.45489688 Ingush
6.99456217 Balkar
7.45159714 Circassian
7.73208898 Ossetian
8.64394007 Karachay
9.73880383 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.00961538 Avar_Dagestan
10.06190340 Lezgin
Target: Mountain_Cliff
Distance: 2.3206% / 2.32056897 | ADC: 0.5x
88.8 Chechen
11.2 North_Ossetians
Target: Mountain_Cliff
Distance: 1.5620% / 1.56198667 | ADC: 0.25x
65.0 Chechen
21.0 North_Ossetians
12.8 Lak
0.6 Iran_Mazandaran
0.6 Kalash
HW oracle:
# Population (source) Distance
1 chechen (yunusbayev) 3.57
2 kumyk (yunusbayev) 4.43
3 lezgin (behar) 4.92
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.4% chechen (yunusbayev) + 12.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 1.83
2 53% kumyk (yunusbayev) + 47% lezgin (behar) @ 1.84
3 93.8% chechen (yunusbayev) + 6.2% makrani (hgdp) @ 1.96
4 94.3% chechen (yunusbayev) + 5.7% brahui (hgdp) @ 1.99
5 94% chechen (yunusbayev) + 6% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.04
Azerbaijani from Ayrumlu tribe (Kars/Iranian West-Azerbaijani + Rep Azerbaijani)
Quite unusual results! Can you post their HarappaWorld too?
Kerem_turc
05-21-2020, 01:45 AM
User Kerem_turc (Zaza)
Population
Gedrosia 23.26
Siberian 1.08
Northwest_African 0.42
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.28
North_European 7.91
South_Asian 3.97
East_African 1.15
Southwest_Asian 15.31
East_Asian -
Caucasus 42.63
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Kerem_turc
4.82260303 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.27365149 Zaza
5.56687525 Kurd_Sorani
5.72839419 Kurd_KAZ
5.83499786 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.56591959 Kurds
7.20417934 Lur_Iran
7.28322044 Iranian
7.30072599 Turkmen_Iraq
7.33113907 Azerbaijani_Iran
Target: Kerem_turc
Distance: 2.0679% / 2.06792133 | ADC: 0.25x
31.8 Kurd_Sorani
20.6 Iran_Mazandaran
20.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.0 North_Ossetians
3.6 Yemen_Jews
the oracle doesn't have to be good at that one
the oracle doesn't have to be good at that one
It is fine. You are just a Levant-shifted Kurd. Still 100% Middle Eastern :cool:
Kerem_turc
05-22-2020, 01:52 AM
It is fine. You are just a Levant-shifted Kurd. Still 100% Middle Eastern :cool:
I have absolutely nothing Kurdish, my father and my mother don't have it at all, my mother is zaza and azeri, my father is zaza it's all vahaduo it's great no matter what
I have no origin that comes from the Levant and I also add that I am not from the Middle East but from West Asia / Caucasus
Kerem_turc
05-22-2020, 03:17 AM
even if i trust this calculator it gives me a mixture between Iranian / Turkish / Caucasian people
Ubykh (a virtually extinct Circassian tribe)
Taken from here (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?292559-Ubykh-Gedmatch-Results&highlight=Ubykh)
Gedrosia 14.13
Siberian 3.00
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asian 0.06
Atlantic_Med 7.62
North_European 26.38
South_Asian 0
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 2.45
East_Asian 3.60
Caucasus 42.77
Sub_Saharan 0
Distance to: Ubykh
8.44130914 Balkar
9.45283555 Karachay
10.36419317 Chechen
11.16170686 Qumuq
11.25614055 Kumyks
11.83180460 Ossetian
12.04744371 Ingush
12.22146882 Circassian
13.03949386 Avar_Dagestan
14.38107785 Nogais
Target: Ubykh
Distance: 1.8197% / 1.81973831 | ADC: 0.25x
63.8 Balkar
16.8 Adygei
9.4 Mixed_Slav
9.0 Bulgarians
1.0 Nogais
Turk from Kayseri:
Gedrosian: 17.46
Siberian: 4.52
Northwest_African: 0.41
Southeast_Asian: 1.17
Atlantic_Med: 8.58
North_European: 9.52
South_Asian 2.21
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.64
East_Asian: 2.76
Caucasian: 41.74
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Kayseri1
3.91689928 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.69321851 Turk_Central_East
5.28395685 Turk_Southeast
5.31630511 Azerbaijani
5.72698874 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
5.94551932 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.01953487 Turk_East
6.11977124 Turk_South
7.10607487 Turk_Anatolia
7.49883991 Turk_Central_West
8.32783285 Zaza
8.74536449 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.51751543 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.56029288 Turkmen_Iraq
9.57567230 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.32602053 Turk_Southwest
10.56025568 Armenian_East
10.66759111 Kurd_Sorani
10.95338760 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.59920256 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.03040731 Kurd_KAZ
12.28746109 Yoruk
12.59773392 Karachay
12.65688350 Kurds
12.74123620 Turk_Northwest
Target: Kayseri1
Distance: 2.4894% / 2.48938577 | ADC: 0.5x
53.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
25.4 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
16.8 Turk_East
3.0 Ossetian
1.8 Turk_Central_East
Armenian from Iran (oszkar07 wife)
Population
Gedrosia 16.34
Siberian 0
Northwest_African 0.35
Southeast_Asian 0
Atlantic_Med 10.11
North_European 6.22
South_Asian 1.38
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 13.61
East_Asian 0
Caucasus 51.99
Sub_Saharan 0
Distance to: ~
2.60555176 Armenian_East
4.20528239 Turk_East_Black_Sea
4.71524125 Greek_Pontus
5.18917142 Armenian_West
5.70361289 Hemshin
6.15043088 Turk_Ahiska
6.62173693 Georgia_Jews
6.80156600 Laz
7.17716518 Turk_East
7.36717042 Azerbaijan_Jews
Target: ~
Distance: 1.9228% / 1.92282251 | ADC: 1x
80.4 Armenian_East
19.6 Turk_East_Black_Sea
Target: ~
Distance: 1.5010% / 1.50102657 | ADC: 0.5x
68.0 Armenian_East
17.0 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.8 Hemshin
4.2 Georgia_Jews
Target: ~
Distance: 0.8356% / 0.83556936 | ADC: 0.25x
55.6 Armenian_East
14.2 Greek_Pontus
10.6 Georgia_Jews
9.8 Hemshin
5.2 Turk_East_Black_Sea
3.6 Georgian_Gurian
0.8 Pulliyar
0.2 Lithuanian
Chris596
05-23-2020, 11:21 PM
My results
Components %
Gedrosia 4.64
Siberian 0.33
Northwest_African 0.00
Southeast_Asian 0.00
Atlantic_Med 26.80
North_European 38.39
South_Asian 0.39
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian 3.27
East_Asian 2.13
Caucasus 23.51
Sub_Saharan 0.54
Edit: 27.51% in total if I exclude the East-Asian component.
And a picture of me from 2 weeks ago:
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Thambi
05-23-2020, 11:32 PM
My results
Components %
Gedrosia 4.64
Siberian 0.33
Northwest_African 0.00
Southeast_Asian 0.00
Atlantic_Med 26.80
North_European 38.39
South_Asian 0.39
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian 3.27
East_Asian 2.13
Caucasus 23.51
Sub_Saharan 0.54
Edit: I didn't highlight Caucasus because most people don't consider it as part of West-Asia
Caucasus is the definition of west asia bro. you could definitely highlight it.
Chris596
05-23-2020, 11:35 PM
Caucasus is the definition of west asia bro. you could definitely highlight it.
Okay, fixed :)
Mingle
05-23-2020, 11:41 PM
Azerbaijani (100%) from Zaqatala region:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Zaqatala_in_Azerbaijan.svg
Gedrosian: 23.43
Siberian: 2.94
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.48
Atlantic_Med: 5.62
North_European: 17.12
South_Asian 0.55
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 7.31
East_Asian: 2.37
Caucasian: 40.11
SSA: 0.07
Distance to: Azeri23
2.19658826 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
5.68656311 Ingush
7.25033792 Qumuq
7.53567515 Chechen
8.61585747 Balkar
8.70829490 Karachay
8.83471562 Kumyks
9.69207924 Circassian
10.12609994 Ossetian
10.58355800 Avar_Dagestan
10.72409437 Azerbaijani
10.83786879 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.01429526 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.31251961 Tabasaran
11.35993838 Avar
11.93917920 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.69212748 Lak
12.76631897 Zaza
12.87835781 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.12380280 Lezgins
13.14903038 Dargin
13.41105887 Turk_Southeast
13.60899335 Turk_South
13.71531990 Turk_Central_East
13.80489768 Iran_Khorasan
Target: Azeri23
Distance: 1.0575% / 1.05748536 | ADC: 0.25x
73.4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.4 Qumuq
10.6 Ingush
2.0 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
0.6 Saudis
0.6 Xibo
0.4 Balkar
Seems like the further north you go, the Turkic ancestry decreases. Also, a decent amount of diversity for a country that size. I don't think Iranian Azeris are nearly that diverse.
Chris596
05-23-2020, 11:49 PM
What does Gedrosia mean here? I see that Indians get huge amounts of it and I have a respectable amount as well.
Thambi
05-23-2020, 11:52 PM
What does Gedrosia mean here? I see that Indians get huge amounts of it and I have a respectable amount as well.
Gedrosia is basically baloch like component found highest among baloch and brahui people in western pakistan. They're the iran neolithic farmers basically. Yeah its found in west asians, europeans as well cause its an old basal west eurasian category closely related to caucasus. Its the second most common component among south asians after our native south asian/south indian.
Seems like the further north you go, the Turkic ancestry decreases. Also, a decent amount of diversity for a country that size. I don't think Iranian Azeris are nearly that diverse.
True. Although Northwest is an exception because of Karapapaks.
Uzbek
N-L708
T1a1
FTDNA
Gedrosia 14.10 Pct
Siberian 19.67 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.70 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.05 Pct
North_European 16.61 Pct
South_Asian 3.75 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.28 Pct
East_Asian 24.20 Pct
Caucasus 13.64 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Odil
6.41715669 Karakalpak
10.45489837 Uzbek
11.98140226 Uygur
12.73833584 Hazara
13.43369272 Kazakh
16.14655381 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
17.05889504 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
17.12541094 Kyrgyz
18.52514237 Bashkir
18.61015852 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
Target: Odil
Distance: 2.1922% / 2.19216419 | ADC: 0.5x
65.8 Karakalpak
34.2 Uzbek
Target: Odil
Distance: 1.8467% / 1.84667668 | ADC: 0.25x
64.0 Karakalpak
28.8 Uzbek
2.2 Hazara
2.2 Nogais
2.0 Tajiks
0.8 Altai
23andme
Gedrosia 13.51 Pct
Siberian 19.68 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 3.03 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.83 Pct
North_European 15.82 Pct
South_Asian 3.95 Pct
East_African 0.64 Pct
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 23.70 Pct
Caucasus 13.84 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Odil
6.56738152 Karakalpak
10.61822490 Uzbek
12.43504725 Uygur
13.19494600 Hazara
13.53499538 Kazakh
16.24248749 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
17.04128810 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
17.16123830 Kyrgyz
18.66462965 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
18.90184912 Bashkir
Target: Odil
Distance: 2.7069% / 2.70686693 | ADC: 0.5x
66.2 Karakalpak
33.8 Uzbek
Target: Odil
Distance: 2.4508% / 2.45080061 | ADC: 0.25x
63.4 Karakalpak
33.8 Uzbek
2.0 Nogais
0.4 Hazara
0.4 Nganassan
These are close relatives. Don't know what they are, my guess would be Iranian and Turkmen. @Kyp Snow, you can check them
Population
Gedrosia 23.61 Pct
Siberian 5.82 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.50 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.26 Pct
North_European 10.06 Pct
South_Asian 3.74 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.86 Pct
East_Asian 11.55 Pct
Caucasus 29.60 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Population
Gedrosia 27.85 Pct
Siberian 2.22 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.26 Pct
North_European 6.10 Pct
South_Asian 2.45 Pct
East_African 0.38 Pct
Southwest_Asian 13.20 Pct
East_Asian 0.40 Pct
Caucasus 40.48 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.64 Pct
Population
Gedrosia 23.57 Pct
Siberian 8.19 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.22 Pct
North_European 10.63 Pct
South_Asian 3.31 Pct
East_African 0.57 Pct
Southwest_Asian 6.67 Pct
East_Asian 12.76 Pct
Caucasus 28.08 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Population
Gedrosia 27.85 Pct
Siberian 2.00 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.01 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.44 Pct
North_European 7.12 Pct
South_Asian 2.26 Pct
East_African 1.07 Pct
Southwest_Asian 13.07 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 39.16 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
These are close relatives. Don't know what they are, my guess would be Iranian and Turkmen. @Kyp Snow, you can check them
Population
Gedrosia 23.61 Pct
Siberian 5.82 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.50 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.26 Pct
North_European 10.06 Pct
South_Asian 3.74 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.86 Pct
East_Asian 11.55 Pct
Caucasus 29.60 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Population
Gedrosia 27.85 Pct
Siberian 2.22 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.26 Pct
North_European 6.10 Pct
South_Asian 2.45 Pct
East_African 0.38 Pct
Southwest_Asian 13.20 Pct
East_Asian 0.40 Pct
Caucasus 40.48 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.64 Pct
Population
Gedrosia 23.57 Pct
Siberian 8.19 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.22 Pct
North_European 10.63 Pct
South_Asian 3.31 Pct
East_African 0.57 Pct
Southwest_Asian 6.67 Pct
East_Asian 12.76 Pct
Caucasus 28.08 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Population
Gedrosia 27.85 Pct
Siberian 2.00 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.01 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.44 Pct
North_European 7.12 Pct
South_Asian 2.26 Pct
East_African 1.07 Pct
Southwest_Asian 13.07 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 39.16 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Turkmens and Iranians
Distance to: N1
5.56303874 Turkmen_Iran
6.48771917 Turkmens
9.74371592 Iran_Khorasan
11.77509236 Yoruk
13.52259590 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
13.76525336 Azerbaijani
14.31924928 Azerbaijani_Iran
14.70013265 Turk_South
14.74766422 Iran_Central_East
14.93698095 Azerbaijani_Turkey
15.09321702 Tajik_Balanovsky2019
15.28390657 Turk_Southwest
15.34908466 Iranian_Fars
15.43276709 Turk_Southeast
15.88550282 Turk_Anatolia
16.07716082 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
16.17861552 Turk_Northwest
16.56449516 Turk_Central_West
16.77278152 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
17.17136570 Turk_Central_East
17.31914259 Kurd_Kurmanji
17.39058366 Turk_West_BlackSea
17.68041006 Turkmen_Iraq
17.68957320 Qumuq
17.71325492 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Target: N1
Distance: 2.9557% / 2.95569497 | ADC: 0.5x
47.8 Turkmens
30.8 Turkmen_Iran
19.8 Yoruk
1.6 Japanese
Distance to: N2
2.05314393 Iranian
2.39570449 Kurd
3.11743484 Kurd_KAZ
3.29960604 Kurds
3.43873523 Lur_Iran
3.63318042 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.84764891 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.21255216 Zaza
5.70888781 Kurd_Sorani
5.83792771 Iranians
7.03879251 Iran_Mazandaran
7.27492955 Iranian_Fars
7.33305530 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.82978288 Turkmen_Iraq
9.13184538 Azerbaijani
9.24783218 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.62490519 Iran_Central_East
10.95241526 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.81430912 Turk_Southeast
11.85613765 Iran_Khorasan
12.24176049 Turk_East
12.44946585 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.63661615 Armenian_East
14.62591536 Turk_Central_East
14.72960624 Assyrian
Target: N2
Distance: 1.1248% / 1.12479285 | ADC: 0.5x
55.8 Iranian
29.8 Kurd
8.6 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.4 Zaza
1.4 Kurd_KAZ
Distance to: N3
6.51845074 Turkmen_Iran
7.64004581 Turkmens
11.05964737 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
12.31623319 Iran_Khorasan
12.49939199 Yoruk
14.32712113 Tajik_Balanovsky2019
16.50127268 Azerbaijani
16.56577496 Turk_South
16.57235047 Turk_Southwest
16.73899340 Uzbek
17.11975175 Azerbaijani_Iran
17.13185921 Turk_Northwest
17.37684091 Iran_Central_East
17.56262509 Azerbaijani_Turkey
17.67068759 Turk_Anatolia
17.87109678 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
17.88987703 Turk_Southeast
18.20159883 Iranian_Fars
18.27698006 Tajiks
18.42232613 Turk_Central_West
18.70582262 Qumuq
18.76327264 Yagnobi
18.85745476 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
18.97539986 Turk_West_BlackSea
19.33120793 Turk_Central_East
Target: N3
Distance: 3.4764% / 3.47641832 | ADC: 0.5x
51.8 Turkmens
19.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
16.0 Yoruk
11.2 Turkmen_Iran
0.8 Japanese
0.4 JPT30
Distance to: N4
2.78847629 Iranian
3.10798970 Kurd
4.03900978 Kurds
4.13887666 Lur_Iran
4.16586126 Kurd_KAZ
4.36029815 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.79707202 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.49430614 Kurd_Sorani
5.64761897 Iranians
5.65014159 Zaza
6.43216915 Iranian_Fars
7.04240726 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.05960339 Iran_Mazandaran
7.66172957 Turkmen_Iraq
8.70260880 Iran_Central_East
8.74635924 Azerbaijani
9.19985869 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.90761202 Iran_Khorasan
11.52264293 Turk_Southeast
11.72991901 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.78404005 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.74526186 Turk_East
14.51096137 Turk_Central_East
14.52248257 Armenian_East
15.25801101 Turk_South
Target: N4
Distance: 1.6918% / 1.69180261 | ADC: 0.5x
52.2 Iranian
31.2 Kurd
15.0 Kurd_Kurmanji
1.0 Yagnobi
0.4 Southwest_Rus
0.2 Udmurt
Presumably a Circassian from Turkey (Turkish name)
Population
Gedrosia 17.87 Pct
Siberian 4.87 Pct
Northwest_African 0.81 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.56 Pct
North_European 20.29 Pct
South_Asian 1.19 Pct
East_African 0.49 Pct
Southwest_Asian 1.15 Pct
East_Asian 4.60 Pct
Caucasus 43.89 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.27 Pct
Distanceto: K.Demircan
3.17973269 Balkar
4.02853571 Karachay
4.78678389 Kumyks
6.42202460 Ossetian
6.76728158 Ingush
6.78728959 Circassian
7.04763081 Chechen
9.94231864 Qumuq
11.22611687 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.31613576 Avar_Dagestan
Target: K.Demircan
Distance: 2.6069% / 2.60688364 | ADC: 0.5x
83.4 Balkar
8.8 Nogais
7.8 Kumyks
Target: K.Demircan
Distance: 1.6073% / 1.60729649 | ADC: 0.25x
45.8 Balkar
15.6 Nogais
11.8 Karachay
8.4 Kumyks
8.2 Adygei
7.2 Dargin
2.4 North_Ossetians
0.2 Mozabite
0.2 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
0.2 Pulliyar
Bender1999
05-27-2020, 10:07 AM
Presumably a Circassian from Turkey (Turkish name)
Population
Gedrosia 17.87 Pct
Siberian 4.87 Pct
Northwest_African 0.81 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.56 Pct
North_European 20.29 Pct
South_Asian 1.19 Pct
East_African 0.49 Pct
Southwest_Asian 1.15 Pct
East_Asian 4.60 Pct
Caucasus 43.89 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.27 Pct
Distanceto: K.Demircan
3.17973269 Balkar
4.02853571 Karachay
4.78678389 Kumyks
6.42202460 Ossetian
6.76728158 Ingush
6.78728959 Circassian
7.04763081 Chechen
9.94231864 Qumuq
11.22611687 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.31613576 Avar_Dagestan
Target: K.Demircan
Distance: 2.6069% / 2.60688364 | ADC: 0.5x
83.4 Balkar
8.8 Nogais
7.8 Kumyks
Target: K.Demircan
Distance: 1.6073% / 1.60729649 | ADC: 0.25x
45.8 Balkar
15.6 Nogais
11.8 Karachay
8.4 Kumyks
8.2 Adygei
7.2 Dargin
2.4 North_Ossetians
0.2 Mozabite
0.2 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
0.2 Pulliyar
More East Asian admix than many turks, circissians are very interesting.
Bender1999
05-27-2020, 10:11 AM
Azerbaijani from Ayrumlu tribe (Kars/Iranian West-Azerbaijani + Rep Azerbaijani)
Gedrosian: 19.27
Siberian: 8.78
Northwest_African: 0.20
Southeast_Asian: 1.23
Atlantic_Med: 8.49
North_European: 8.00
South_Asian 1.85
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 8.90
East_Asian: 8.85
Caucasian: 34.43
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Azer_ayrumlu
6.82451463 Yoruk
8.33044417 Turk_South
9.03189349 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.70426710 Turk_Anatolia
9.73045734 Turk_Southwest
9.93753491 Azerbaijani
10.23971679 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.33742231 Turk_Southeast
10.62789255 Turk_Central_West
10.70519500 Turkmen_Iran
10.70946777 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.93888477 Turk_Central_East
11.54832455 Turk_Northwest
11.91836398 Turk_West_BlackSea
12.33851288 Turkmens
12.64778241 Iran_Khorasan
14.30669424 Kurd_Kurmanji
14.48413270 Turkmen_Iraq
15.16807832 Talysh_Azerbaijan
15.19589089 Zaza
15.60510173 Kurd_Sorani
15.64074167 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.71493557 Iranian_Fars
15.88318923 Turk_East
16.09863348 Iran_Central_East
Target: Azer_ayrumlu
Distance: 1.7420% / 1.74198711 | ADC: 0.25x
54.2 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
30.0 Turkmens
6.0 Yoruk
4.8 Kurd
2.8 Oroqen
2.2 Buryat
Cool, people claim these arent turkics:picard2:
Cool, people claim these aren’t turkics:picard2:
Stop trolling please. You are already a fake account which is against the rules.
Bender1999
05-27-2020, 12:38 PM
Stop trolling please. You are already a fake account which is against the rules.
I am not trolling, you know some people claimed this tribes arent of turkic origin. I don’t understand why thats trolling. I am just interested in to this thread and history of some people. But if you want that i shall keep here away, then it is ok i wont response your posts.
More East Asian admix than many turks, circissians are very interesting
Indeed they don't score more than us Turks. Turkish average is 10%, while Circassian average is 5% . Yes, there are some Turks who score less than Circassians but they're not very significant at all
Presumably a Chechen. I try to find as many North Caucasians as possible and most of the present are either Chechen or Northwest Caucasians (Balkar, Kabardin/Circassian, etc.). Very few Dagestanis
Population
Gedrosia 22.14 Pct
Siberian 2.97 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.34 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.90 Pct
North_European 21.13 Pct
South_Asian 0.81 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.56 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 44.16 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Imam
2.06482445 Chechen
3.76296426 Ingush
6.12451631 Balkar
6.14201107 Kumyks
6.90858162 Circassian
7.08189240 Ossetian
7.13448667 Karachay
8.21535757 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.41631154 Qumuq
8.76853466 Avar_Dagestan
Target: Imam
Distance: 1.7311% / 1.73105220 | ADC: 0.5x
88.8 Chechen
9.0 Ossetian
2.2 Ingush
Target: Imam
Distance: 1.3459% / 1.34586944 | ADC: 0.25x
91.6 Chechen
3.4 Abkhazian
3.4 Adygei
1.2 Sardinian
0.4 Balkan_Gypsy
Trabzon (taken from YouTube)
Gedrosia 15.50
Siberian 0
Northwest_African 0.43
Southeast_Asian 0.45
Atlantic_Med 12.68
North_European 4.45
South_Asian 0
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 10.33
East_Asian 2.31
Caucasus 53.65
Sub_Saharan 0.21
Distance to: Trabzon
2.68158535 Turk_East_Black_Sea
3.63967031 Greek_Pontus
5.35392379 Hemshin
5.84530581 Laz
6.36901876 Armenian_East
7.62256519 Turk_Ahiska
7.71109590 Armenian_West
8.57496356 Georgian_Adjara
9.53221380 Georgian_Turkey
9.57322307 Turk_East
Target: Trabzon
Distance: 2.0212% / 2.02117480 | ADC: 0.5x
98.4 Turk_East_Black_Sea
1.4 Sardinian
0.2 Japanese
Target: Trabzon
Distance: 1.3552% / 1.35517540 | ADC: 0.25x
76.8 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.0 Georgian_Adjara
9.8 Greek_Pontus
2.4 Sardinian
0.6 Japanese
0.4 Chinese
Chris596
05-28-2020, 11:26 AM
Also, here's what I get here using Population nMonte:
nMonte Calculator by www.dnagenics.com
v1.1 04/02/2020
Finished reading population data. 290 populations found.
12 components mode.
--------------------------------
Distance: 3.03
48.80% Croat
26.60% Macedonian
12.40% Romanians
10.40% Bulgarians
00.80% Japanese
00.40% JPT30
00.40% Nogais
00.20% Bosnian
The Balkan components totally make sense. What's interesting that this one gives me Japanese again, specifically as a component (just like Myheritage) and many other calculators. There was another thread where I asked about JPT30, I didn't get an answer, but I already realized that it also means Japanese (but I do not know exactly what kind of and which part of the islands it denotes exactly. Anyway it's interesting because it's just as constant in my case as Serbian and Romanian it seems.
Mingle
05-29-2020, 04:30 AM
Also, here's what I get here using Population nMonte:
nMonte Calculator by www.dnagenics.com
v1.1 04/02/2020
Finished reading population data. 290 populations found.
12 components mode.
--------------------------------
Distance: 3.03
48.80% Croat
26.60% Macedonian
12.40% Romanians
10.40% Bulgarians
00.80% Japanese
00.40% JPT30
00.40% Nogais
00.20% Bosnian
The Balkan components totally make sense. What's interesting that this one gives me Japanese again, specifically as a component (just like Myheritage) and many other calculators. There was another thread where I asked about JPT30, I didn't get an answer, but I already realized that it also means Japanese (but I do not know exactly what kind of and which part of the islands it denotes exactly. Anyway it's interesting because it's just as constant in my case as Serbian and Romanian it seems.
Wrong thread? This thread is only for the Dodecad K12b results of Asian people.
Mingle
05-29-2020, 04:31 AM
Trabzon (taken from YouTube)
Gedrosia 15.50
Siberian 0
Northwest_African 0.43
Southeast_Asian 0.45
Atlantic_Med 12.68
North_European 4.45
South_Asian 0
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 10.33
East_Asian 2.31
Caucasus 53.65
Sub_Saharan 0.21
Distance to:Trabzon
2.68158535Turk_East_Black_Sea
3.63967031Greek_Pontus
5.35392379Hemshin
5.84530581Laz
6.36901876Armenian_East
7.62256519Turk_Ahiska
7.71109590Armenian_West
8.57496356Georgian_Adjara
9.53221380Georgian_Turkey
9.57322307Turk_East
Target: Trabzon
Distance: 2.0212% / 2.02117480 | ADC: 0.5x
98.4Turk_East_Black_Sea
1.4Sardinian
0.2Japanese
Target: Trabzon
Distance: 1.3552% / 1.35517540 | ADC: 0.25x
76.8Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.0Georgian_Adjara
9.8Greek_Pontus
2.4Sardinian
0.6Japanese
0.4ChineseIs he Turkish or Greek?
FinalFlash
05-29-2020, 05:32 AM
Why some of them so close to Turks/Azeris and Kurds?
It's pretty standard for Armenians to be very close to Eastern Turks, Northeast Black sea people and to a lesser extent Azeris. What's surprising about it?
Bender1999
05-29-2020, 10:37 AM
Is he Turkish or Greek?
Probably Laz.
Is he Turkish or Greek?
Turkish. Greeks no longer live in Trabzon.
Turkish. Greeks no longer live in Trabzon.
Indeed some Pontic Greeks still live in Trabzon and know that they're Greeks. But all of them are Muslim
Chris596
05-29-2020, 11:41 AM
Wrong thread? This thread is only for the Dodecad K12b results of Asian people.
I don't know what you're talking about, these are my Dodecad K12b nMonte results from Admixture Studio. Also where does it say that it's only for ,,Asian'' people?
Mingle
05-29-2020, 01:47 PM
Also where does it say that it's only for ,,Asian'' people?
Did you read the thread title?
Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2
Did you read the thread title?
Chris is honory West&Central Asian
Chris596
05-29-2020, 01:54 PM
Did you read the thread title?
Okay, I interpreted it differently. I thought anyone who gets such results can post them specifically. Looks like you have some strict rules here..
Okay, I interpreted it differently. I thought anyone who gets such results can post them specifically. Looks like you have some strict rules here..
It's okay, no big deal. But yeah, the thread is about West, Central and South Asians.
Maraş Alevi Türkmen(Central Anatolia)
Gedrosian: 15.03
Siberian: 5.64
Northwest_African: 0.41
Southeast_Asian: 1.18
Atlantic_Med: 12.52
North_European: 8.58
South_Asian 1.77
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 13.14
East_Asian: 4.29
Caucasian: 37.29
SSA: 0.15
Distance to: Maras_Alevi
2.97481092 Turk_South
3.35017910 Turk_Central_West
3.41446921 Turk_Anatolia
3.98770611 Turk_Central_East
4.26339067 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
4.69956381 Turk_Southeast
5.72817597 Turk_Southwest
5.87709112 Turk_West_BlackSea
7.69291882 Azerbaijani
7.74941288 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.37861564 Turk_Northwest
8.75506710 Yoruk
9.18590769 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.54306881 Turk_East
11.06288841 Turkmen_Iraq
11.91809129 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.43558201 Zaza
13.25610048 Kurd_Sorani
13.41229660 Nusayri_Turkey
14.30776013 Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.41162725 Uzbekistan_Jews
14.69651659 Greek_Cappadocia
14.96144044 Armenian_East
15.48332329 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
15.52392991 Greek_Crete
Target: Maras_Alevi
Distance: 2.0940% / 2.09396574 | ADC: 0.5x
73.8 Turk_South
19.0 Turk_Central_West
5.2 Syrians
1.8 Nusayri_Turkey
0.2 Turk_Southeast
Mountain Jew from the Caucasus
Gedrosia 21.97
Siberian 0
Northwest_African 3.15
Southeast_Asian 0
Atlantic_Med 7.44
North_European 2.01
South_Asian 0.79
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 19.37
East_Asian 1.06
Caucasus 43.65
Sub_Saharan 0.56
Distance to: Juhuri
4.46741536 Uzbekistan_Jews
6.32620739 Assyrian
7.54956290 Turkmen_Iraq
7.77314608 Iranian_Jews
8.63551967 Kurd_Sorani
8.70909295 Zaza
9.10262599 Iraq_Jews
9.26054534 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.61598669 Kurd_KAZ
9.89675704 Azerbaijan_Jews
Target: Juhuri
Distance: 2.8928% / 2.89284625 | ADC: 0.5x
38.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
30.2 Iranian_Jews
21.8 Turkmen_Iraq
9.6 Lur_Iran
0.2 Mozabite
Target: Juhuri
Distance: 1.5167% / 1.51667653 | ADC: 0.25x
47.8 Iranian_Jews
26.6 Turkmen_Iraq
10.2 Iranians
7.6 Assyrian
6.6 Kurd
1.2 Mozabite
Narration
06-02-2020, 05:24 PM
https://i.ibb.co/YhQ5Hpy/1.png
https://i.ibb.co/fHgsbYX/2.png
https://i.ibb.co/7bWqB17/3.png
https://i.ibb.co/YhQ5Hpy/1.png
Cool. Where is your ancestry from?
Here's your updated results
Distance to: Narration
5.05843849 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.24240403 Azerbaijani
6.47412542 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.00242101 Turk_South
7.12457016 Turk_Southeast
7.16517969 Turk_Central_East
7.21288431 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.82336245 Turk_Anatolia
8.40884653 Turk_Central_West
9.30772797 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.82953712 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.83639161 Turk_Southwest
9.95334617 Zaza
9.95895075 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.03175458 Turk_East
10.21195378 Yoruk
10.22428482 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.93047117 Karachay
11.30452564 Turkmen_Iraq
11.65899653 Ingush
11.89963025 Turk_Northwest
12.07842705 Kurd_Sorani
12.38654108 Balkar
12.46974739 Iran_Khorasan
12.94029366 Circassian
Target: Narration
Distance: 1.4465% / 1.44652463 | ADC: 0.25x
73.2 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.4 Qumuq
12.0 Karachay
1.8 Japanese
0.6 JPT30
With Turkish cities added:
Distance to: Narration
4.74571386 Turk_Kars
5.05843849 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.24240403 Azerbaijani
5.52817330 Turk_Osmaniye
5.66974426 Turk_Igdir
5.79103618 Turk_Kirsehir
5.87967686 Turk_Kahranmaras
6.22068324 Turk_Malatya
6.36538294 Turk_Sereflikochisar
Narration
06-02-2020, 06:13 PM
Cool. Where is your ancestry from?
Here's your updated results
Distance to: Narration
5.05843849 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.24240403 Azerbaijani
6.47412542 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.00242101 Turk_South
7.12457016 Turk_Southeast
7.16517969 Turk_Central_East
7.21288431 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.82336245 Turk_Anatolia
8.40884653 Turk_Central_West
9.30772797 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.82953712 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.83639161 Turk_Southwest
9.95334617 Zaza
9.95895075 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.03175458 Turk_East
10.21195378 Yoruk
10.22428482 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.93047117 Karachay
11.30452564 Turkmen_Iraq
11.65899653 Ingush
11.89963025 Turk_Northwest
12.07842705 Kurd_Sorani
12.38654108 Balkar
12.46974739 Iran_Khorasan
12.94029366 Circassian
Target: Narration
Distance: 1.4465% / 1.44652463 | ADC: 0.25x
73.2 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.4 Qumuq
12.0 Karachay
1.8 Japanese
0.6 JPT30
With Turkish cities added:
Distance to: Narration
4.74571386 Turk_Kars
5.05843849 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.24240403 Azerbaijani
5.52817330 Turk_Osmaniye
5.66974426 Turk_Igdir
5.79103618 Turk_Kirsehir
5.87967686 Turk_Kahranmaras
6.22068324 Turk_Malatya
6.36538294 Turk_Sereflikochisar
Both of my parents are from Southern Anatolia. Besides that, my father has 1/8 Balkan Turk (Muhacir) ancestry also.
Narration
06-02-2020, 06:22 PM
I forgot to add, my father also has some Kurdish ancestry.
Bender1999
06-02-2020, 10:17 PM
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Interesting result from an Iranian Mazandarani:
Gedrosian: 32.51
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.92
Atlantic_Med: 2.02
North_European: 10.81
South_Asian 5.81
East_African 0.29
Southwest_Asian: 10.94
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 36.71
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Mazandaran12
5.01217518 Iran_Mazandaran
7.81459532 Iran_Central_East
8.62663897 Iranian
8.80141466 Iranians
8.83155139 Iranian_Fars
10.11838426 Iran_Khorasan
10.25616400 Kurd
10.64324199 Lur_Iran
10.98235403 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.99340257 Kurds
11.18338500 Kurd_KAZ
12.33938815 Kurd_Sorani
12.59594776 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.65867292 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.49859993 Zaza
13.72615751 Azerbaijani_Iran
14.56807468 Turkmens
14.79018594 Iran_Bandari
14.89340458 Lezgin
14.91450301 Parsi_India
14.95042140 Azerbaijani
15.28069370 Turkmen_Iraq
15.81232747 Azerbaijani_Turkey
16.62462330 Turkmen_Iran
18.00293032 Ingush
Target: Mazandaran12
Distance: 2.0705% / 2.07049177 | ADC: 0.25x
76.4 Iran_Mazandaran
15.0 Tabasaran
3.6 Iran_Bandari
2.4 Kalash
2.0 Balochi
0.6 Saudis
Interesting result from an Iranian Mazandarani:
Gedrosian: 32.51
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.92
Atlantic_Med: 2.02
North_European: 10.81
South_Asian 5.81
East_African 0.29
Southwest_Asian: 10.94
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 36.71
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Mazandaran12
5.01217518 Iran_Mazandaran
7.81459532 Iran_Central_East
8.62663897 Iranian
8.80141466 Iranians
8.83155139 Iranian_Fars
10.11838426 Iran_Khorasan
10.25616400 Kurd
10.64324199 Lur_Iran
10.98235403 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.99340257 Kurds
11.18338500 Kurd_KAZ
12.33938815 Kurd_Sorani
12.59594776 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.65867292 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.49859993 Zaza
13.72615751 Azerbaijani_Iran
14.56807468 Turkmens
14.79018594 Iran_Bandari
14.89340458 Lezgin
14.91450301 Parsi_India
14.95042140 Azerbaijani
15.28069370 Turkmen_Iraq
15.81232747 Azerbaijani_Turkey
16.62462330 Turkmen_Iran
18.00293032 Ingush
Target: Mazandaran12
Distance: 2.0705% / 2.07049177 | ADC: 0.25x
76.4 Iran_Mazandaran
15.0 Tabasaran
3.6 Iran_Bandari
2.4 Kalash
2.0 Balochi
0.6 Saudis
Very high Gedrosia. Honestly your father doesn't look quarter Mazandarani.
Very high Gedrosia. Honestly your father doesn't look quarter Mazandarani.
Why you think that, i'm not 100% sure actually
Why you think that, i'm not 100% sure actually
His Gedrosia is not even higher than the Azerbaijani average. Although I may be wrong and he simply didn't inherit that stuff. We'll never know since your great-grandmother is no longer alive.
His Gedrosia is not even higher than the Azerbaijani average. Although I may be wrong and he simply didn't inherit that stuff. We'll never know since your great-grandmother is no longer alive.
He definetly has some Persian/Iranian I think. His South Asian is a bit higher than average. But the weirdest thing is his low SW_Asian which I can't explain yet.
50%Azerbaijani + 50%Lezgin from Northern Azerbaijan Rep (Khachmaz):
Gedrosian: 25.08
Siberian: 1.32
Northwest_African: 0.07
Southeast_Asian: 1.73
Atlantic_Med: 4.71
North_European: 16.29
South_Asian 0.75
East_African 0.27
Southwest_Asian: 7.44
East_Asian: 2.10
Caucasian: 40.25
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: AzerbaijaniLezgin
2.36450841 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
6.75518320 Ingush
7.60528106 Lezgin
8.56443226 Chechen
9.07109144 Qumuq
9.96846528 Kumyks
10.42599156 Balkar
10.57844507 Karachay
10.72442539 Circassian
10.96984047 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.97154957 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.07520203 Azerbaijani
11.26778150 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.36161960 Ossetian
11.43610073 Avar_Dagestan
11.72572812 Avar
11.72736970 Tabasaran
12.21040540 Zaza
12.36411744 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.55867429 Iranian
12.64274891 Kurd_KAZ
12.67021310 Kurds
13.05121450 Lak
13.17438044 Kurd
13.21765108 Iran_Khorasan
Target: AzerbaijaniLezgin
Distance: 2.3428% / 2.34277418 | ADC: 0.5x
40.0 Lezgin
31.2 Ingush
19.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
0.6 Kurds
50%Azerbaijani + 50%Lezgin from Northern Azerbaijan Rep (Khachmaz):
Gedrosian: 25.08
Siberian: 1.32
Northwest_African: 0.07
Southeast_Asian: 1.73
Atlantic_Med: 4.71
North_European: 16.29
South_Asian 0.75
East_African 0.27
Southwest_Asian: 7.44
East_Asian: 2.10
Caucasian: 40.25
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: AzerbaijaniLezgin
2.36450841 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
6.75518320 Ingush
7.60528106 Lezgin
8.56443226 Chechen
9.07109144 Qumuq
9.96846528 Kumyks
10.42599156 Balkar
10.57844507 Karachay
10.72442539 Circassian
10.96984047 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.97154957 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.07520203 Azerbaijani
11.26778150 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.36161960 Ossetian
11.43610073 Avar_Dagestan
11.72572812 Avar
11.72736970 Tabasaran
12.21040540 Zaza
12.36411744 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.55867429 Iranian
12.64274891 Kurd_KAZ
12.67021310 Kurds
13.05121450 Lak
13.17438044 Kurd
13.21765108 Iran_Khorasan
Target: AzerbaijaniLezgin
Distance: 2.3428% / 2.34277418 | ADC: 0.5x
40.0 Lezgin
31.2 Ingush
19.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
0.6 Kurds
Interesting. I guess if you remove some of the pops, you could get a fit that is closer to 50/50.
Halgurd
06-06-2020, 11:17 PM
Mine
1 Caucasus 40.39
2 Gedrosia 24.51
3 Southwest_Asian 14.22
4 Atlantic_Med 8.7
5 North_European 7.02
6 South_Asian 1.87
7 Siberian 1.55
8 Southeast_Asian 1.1
9 Northwest_African 0.55
10 Sub_Saharan 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 4.66
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 5.05
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.62
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.7
5 Iranians (Behar) 8.11
6 Turks (Behar) 11.35
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 13.53
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.57
9 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 13.9
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.16
11 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 14.21
12 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 15.39
13 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 15.49
14 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.14
15 Lebanese (Behar) 16.75
16 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.15
17 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 17.85
18 Syrians (Behar) 18.86
19 Armenians (Behar) 19.72
20 Druze (HGDP) 19.89
Are you a Turkey Kurd? You are quite pure and homogenous. Curious what you look like. Darker or lighter, etc.
Mine
1 Caucasus 40.39
2 Gedrosia 24.51
3 Southwest_Asian 14.22
4 Atlantic_Med 8.7
5 North_European 7.02
6 South_Asian 1.87
7 Siberian 1.55
8 Southeast_Asian 1.1
9 Northwest_African 0.55
10 Sub_Saharan 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 4.66
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 5.05
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.62
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.7
5 Iranians (Behar) 8.11
6 Turks (Behar) 11.35
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 13.53
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.57
9 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 13.9
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.16
11 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 14.21
12 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 15.39
13 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 15.49
14 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.14
15 Lebanese (Behar) 16.75
16 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.15
17 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 17.85
18 Syrians (Behar) 18.86
19 Armenians (Behar) 19.72
20 Druze (HGDP) 19.89
Halgurd,24.51,1.55,0.55,1.10,8.70,7.02,1.87,0,14.2 2,0,40.39,0.10
Distance to: Halgurd
1.64687583 Kurd_Kurmanji
2.22418524 Zaza
3.98684085 Kurd_Sorani
4.16661733 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.71944912 Turkmen_Iraq
4.83238037 Kurd_KAZ
4.94726187 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.04191432 Kurds
5.43736149 Kurd
5.66612743 Lur_Iran
Target: Halgurd
Distance: 1.3617% / 1.36171682 | ADC: 0.5x
75.4 Kurd_Kurmanji
17.0 Zaza
7.6 Kurds
Target: Halgurd
Distance: 0.9945% / 0.99447275 | ADC: 0.25x
65.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
17.6 Kurds
13.8 Zaza
2.0 Uzbekistan_Jews
0.6 Cambodians
0.4 Greek_Cappadocia
0.4 Sardinian
Halgurd
06-07-2020, 12:00 AM
Are you a Turkey Kurd? You are quite pure and homogenous. Curious what you look like. Darker or lighter, etc.
Halgurd,24.51,1.55,0.55,1.10,8.70,7.02,1.87,0,14.2 2,0,40.39,0.10
Distance to: Halgurd
1.64687583 Kurd_Kurmanji
2.22418524 Zaza
3.98684085 Kurd_Sorani
4.16661733 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.71944912 Turkmen_Iraq
4.83238037 Kurd_KAZ
4.94726187 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.04191432 Kurds
5.43736149 Kurd
5.66612743 Lur_Iran
Target: Halgurd
Distance: 1.3617% / 1.36171682 | ADC: 0.5x
75.4 Kurd_Kurmanji
17.0 Zaza
7.6 Kurds
Target: Halgurd
Distance: 0.9945% / 0.99447275 | ADC: 0.25x
65.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
17.6 Kurds
13.8 Zaza
2.0 Uzbekistan_Jews
0.6 Cambodians
0.4 Greek_Cappadocia
0.4 Sardinian
I’m a Sorani Kurd from Erbil. Thanks for the results.
These are my gf’s results. Can you check what populations she gets?:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 44.01
2 Gedrosia 21.74
3 Southwest_Asian 14.47
4 Atlantic_Med 9.18
5 North_European 4.9
6 South_Asian 2.06
7 Siberian 1.34
8 East_Asian 1.05
9 Northwest_African 0.97
10 Southeast_Asian 0.28
Im a Sorani Kurd from Erbil. Thanks for the results.
These are my gfs results. Can you check what populations she gets?:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 44.01
2 Gedrosia 21.74
3 Southwest_Asian 14.47
4 Atlantic_Med 9.18
5 North_European 4.9
6 South_Asian 2.06
7 Siberian 1.34
8 East_Asian 1.05
9 Northwest_African 0.97
10 Southeast_Asian 0.28
gf,21.74,1.34,0.97,0.28,9.18,4.90,2.06,0,14.47,1.0 5,44.01,0
Distance to: gf
3.87165339 Zaza
5.01118748 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.43769253 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.66368255 Turk_East
6.19769312 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.21154570 Turkmen_Iraq
6.90431025 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.96007184 Kurd_Sorani
6.96120679 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.04729735 Kurd_KAZ
Target: gf
Distance: 2.0437% / 2.04368400 | ADC: 1x
62.0 Zaza
29.0 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.0 Turk_East
Target: gf
Distance: 1.4971% / 1.49712346 | ADC: 0.5x
56.4 Zaza
16.6 Turk_East
15.8 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.2 Assyrian
Target: gf
Distance: 0.8810% / 0.88098842 | ADC: 0.25x
35.8 Zaza
26.0 Turk_East
22.8 Assyrian
12.8 Lur_Iran
2.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
I’m a Sorani Kurd from Erbil. Thanks for the results.
These are my gf’s results. Can you check what populations she gets?:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 44.01
2 Gedrosia 21.74
3 Southwest_Asian 14.47
4 Atlantic_Med 9.18
5 North_European 4.9
6 South_Asian 2.06
7 Siberian 1.34
8 East_Asian 1.05
9 Northwest_African 0.97
10 Southeast_Asian 0.28
Where is she from?
Halgurd
06-07-2020, 09:36 AM
Where is she from?
She's Kurdish with partial Azeri ancestry. I can't make sense of her results tbh.
She's Kurdish with partial Azeri ancestry. I can't make sense of her results tbh.
Me neither :D. From the results it looks like Kurdish with partial Armenian ancestry rather than Azeri. But at the same time it also shows slight East Eurasian input
She's Kurdish with partial Azeri ancestry. I can't make sense of her results tbh.
So what about your looks? You seem to have avoided that question. :) Are you dark and totally unpassable in Europe? I mean your South Asian is quite low, less than 2%.
Halgurd
06-07-2020, 10:14 AM
So what about your looks? You seem to have avoided that question. :) Are you dark and totally unpassable in Europe? I mean your South Asian is quite low, less than 2%.
i look very near eastern i've been classified as east med + alpine
Halgurd
06-07-2020, 03:32 PM
Mine
1 Caucasus 40.39
2 Gedrosia 24.51
3 Southwest_Asian 14.22
4 Atlantic_Med 8.7
5 North_European 7.02
6 South_Asian 1.87
7 Siberian 1.55
8 Southeast_Asian 1.1
9 Northwest_African 0.55
10 Sub_Saharan 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 4.66
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 5.05
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.62
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.7
5 Iranians (Behar) 8.11
6 Turks (Behar) 11.35
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 13.53
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.57
9 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 13.9
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.16
11 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 14.21
12 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 15.39
13 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 15.49
14 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.14
15 Lebanese (Behar) 16.75
16 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.15
17 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 17.85
18 Syrians (Behar) 18.86
19 Armenians (Behar) 19.72
20 Druze (HGDP) 19.89
My 23andme update has given slight different results might mostly the same:
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 40.46
2 Gedrosia 24.65
3 Southwest_Asian 14.05
4 Atlantic_Med 8.63
5 North_European 7.02
6 South_Asian 1.93
7 Siberian 1.56
8 Southeast_Asian 1.1
9 Northwest_African 0.57
10 Sub_Saharan 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 4.54
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 4.92
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.43
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.82
5 Iranians (Behar) 8.01
6 Turks (Behar) 11.39
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 13.59
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.62
9 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 13.98
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.24
11 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 14.31
12 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 15.39
13 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 15.64
14 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.16
15 Lebanese (Behar) 16.95
16 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.06
17 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 17.75
18 Syrians (Behar) 19.08
19 Armenians (Behar) 19.7
20 Druze (HGDP) 20.04
Some Turkic from the Caucasus, don't know what kind exactly
Population
Gedrosia 15.47 Pct
Siberian 8.65 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.98 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.49 Pct
North_European 19.31 Pct
South_Asian 2.97 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.80 Pct
East_Asian 6.40 Pct
Caucasus 36.93 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Target: -
Distance: 2.1933% / 2.19328678 | ADC: 0.5x
51.8 Nogais
17.6 Qumuq
16.4 Karachay
8.6 Turk_Northwest
3.8 Balkan_Gypsy
1.8 Turkmen_Iran
Target: -
Distance: 1.1400% / 1.14000851 | ADC: 0.25x
46.2 Nogais
20.4 Karachay
13.4 Qumuq
8.2 Balkan_Gypsy
5.2 Turk_Northwest
3.2 Balkar
2.4 Turkmen_Iran
0.6 Selkup
0.4 Nganassan
Armenian (presumably Western)
T-CTS9882
H5
Population
Gedrosia 15.01 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 2.46 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.57 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.26 Pct
North_European 3.98 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 13.89 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 51.84 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: P.G.
3.92390112 Greek_Pontus
4.29860442 Armenian_West
4.55580948 Armenian_East
4.84647294 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.95756423 Hemshin
7.34168237 Azerbaijan_Jews
7.40557223 Georgia_Jews
8.07128243 Laz
8.59208939 Turk_East
8.99345873 Greek_Cappadocia
Target: P.G.
Distance: 2.3249% / 2.32488749 | ADC: 1x
56.6 Greek_Pontus
43.4 Armenian_West
Target: P.G.
Distance: 1.5292% / 1.52919300 | ADC: 0.5x
58.2 Greek_Pontus
41.0 Armenian_West
0.8 Mozabite
Target: P.G.
Distance: 0.6949% / 0.69490646 | ADC: 0.25x
60.8 Greek_Pontus
33.2 Armenian_West
2.0 Cypriots
1.6 Armenian_East
1.6 Mozabite
0.8 Lebanese
Dr_Maul
06-08-2020, 09:30 PM
T-CTS9882
True Ararat Haplo :)
Kerem_turc
06-09-2020, 07:14 PM
i look very near eastern i've been classified as east med + alpine
You look near eastern ?
I'm told Carpathid or Caucasian is it possible in zazas?
Some very interesting finds - Belarusian Tatars (siblings or close relatives). There is a couple of other people on that account but they seem mixed with Belarusians
E-M35
T2c
Gedrosia 12.98 Pct
Siberian 9.49 Pct
Northwest_African 0.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.91 Pct
Atlantic_Med 15.64 Pct
North_European 27.24 Pct
South_Asian 0.95 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.90 Pct
East_Asian 12.03 Pct
Caucasus 17.56 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Enver
7.54091506 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
16.73118645 Turk_Romania
17.29641581 Turk_Bulgaria
18.15616700 Uzbek
18.20162905 Tatar_Kazan
19.67927082 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
20.12610742 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
20.25033086 Turk_Greece
20.28272664 Bashkir
21.30099763 R.Moldova_Gagauz
Target: Enver
Distance: 1.9180% / 1.91803529 | ADC: 0.25x
73.2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
9.4 Cornwall
7.0 Dargin
5.4 Yagnobi
4.6 Turk_Romania
0.4 Mixed_Germanic
#
Gedrosia 13.10 Pct
Siberian 6.46 Pct
Northwest_African 0.52 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 15.93 Pct
North_European 21.42 Pct
South_Asian 0.87 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.83 Pct
East_Asian 8.54 Pct
Caucasus 27.34 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Riza
8.37637153 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.79559632 Turk_Northwest
12.87789579 Turk_Bulgaria
13.43999628 Turk_Southwest
13.48469132 Yoruk
13.83834528 Turk_Romania
13.85248353 Turk_Greece
14.30959468 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
14.48187488 Turk_West_BlackSea
15.71159763 Turk_Macedonia
Target: Riza
Distance: 3.0381% / 3.03813676 | ADC: 0.5x
69.4 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
25.2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
4.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.2 Tajik_Balanovsky2019
Target: Riza
Distance: 2.0655% / 2.06546420 | ADC: 0.25x
63.2 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
25.4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
5.8 Tajiks
3.8 Yoruk
1.0 French_Basque
0.4 JPT30
0.2 Japanese
0.2 Pais_Vasco
#
Gedrosia 9.26 Pct
Siberian 10.34 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 2.27 Pct
Atlantic_Med 14.25 Pct
North_European 32.42 Pct
South_Asian 1.42 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.51 Pct
East_Asian 16.78 Pct
Caucasus 11.75 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Antonina
9.59964062 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
14.24801039 Tatar_Kazan
15.58676682 Bashkir
21.63987754 Uzbek
23.27610148 Udmurt
23.45100211 Mari
23.50405710 Turk_Romania
23.83418763 HUN_Szekely
24.28202422 Turk_Bulgaria
24.30400584 Karakalpak
Target: Antonina
Distance: 2.0690% / 2.06899796 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
40.6 Tatar_Kazan
6.0 Argyll
4.0 Japanese
2.2 Chinese
And here are two Polish Tatars from Bialystok (siblings)
Gedrosia 7.18 Pct
Siberian 12.22 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 4.59 Pct
Atlantic_Med 16.44 Pct
North_European 33.04 Pct
South_Asian 1.17 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.88 Pct
East_Asian 10.11 Pct
Caucasus 12.76 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.59 Pct
Distance to: Jaroslaw
10.97382340 Tatar_Kazan
11.70854816 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
17.41080412 Bashkir
19.37336574 HUN_Szekely
19.79486550 Turk_Romania
20.67474063 Turk_Bulgaria
20.76646576 Udmurt
21.02461652 Mari
21.09420774 R.Moldova_Centre+North
22.31228585 Serb
Target: Jaroslaw
Distance: 1.8523% / 1.85231392 | ADC: 0.25x
52.2 Tatar_Kazan
37.2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
5.4 Cantabria
3.2 Lahu
1.8 Swiss_Italian
0.2 Dai
#
Gedrosia 9.90 Pct
Siberian 11.94 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.56 Pct
Atlantic_Med 14.29 Pct
North_European 32.81 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.33 Pct
East_Asian 14.08 Pct
Caucasus 14.09 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Halina
8.94025167 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
12.36309023 Tatar_Kazan
15.43405650 Bashkir
21.38145224 Turk_Romania
21.69991475 Udmurt
21.88643644 Uzbek
22.01143112 Turk_Bulgaria
22.02908759 Mari
22.22073131 HUN_Szekely
23.77339269 R.Moldova_Centre+North
Target: Halina
Distance: 2.6187% / 2.61873719 | ADC: 0.25x
55.6 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
39.2 Tatar_Kazan
3.6 Mixed_Germanic
1.6 Japanese
The Türük is so strong in them, stronger than in the Volga ones who live in a much more Eastern place!
Kaspias
06-11-2020, 09:54 PM
Some very interesting finds - Belarusian Tatars (siblings or close relatives). There is a couple of other people on that account but they seem mixed with Belarusians
E-M35
T2c
Gedrosia 12.98 Pct
Siberian 9.49 Pct
Northwest_African 0.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.91 Pct
Atlantic_Med 15.64 Pct
North_European 27.24 Pct
South_Asian 0.95 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.90 Pct
East_Asian 12.03 Pct
Caucasus 17.56 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Enver
7.54091506 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
16.73118645 Turk_Romania
17.29641581 Turk_Bulgaria
18.15616700 Uzbek
18.20162905 Tatar_Kazan
19.67927082 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
20.12610742 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
20.25033086 Turk_Greece
20.28272664 Bashkir
21.30099763 R.Moldova_Gagauz
Target: Enver
Distance: 1.9180% / 1.91803529 | ADC: 0.25x
73.2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
9.4 Cornwall
7.0 Dargin
5.4 Yagnobi
4.6 Turk_Romania
0.4 Mixed_Germanic
#
Gedrosia 13.10 Pct
Siberian 6.46 Pct
Northwest_African 0.52 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 15.93 Pct
North_European 21.42 Pct
South_Asian 0.87 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.83 Pct
East_Asian 8.54 Pct
Caucasus 27.34 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Riza
8.37637153 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.79559632 Turk_Northwest
12.87789579 Turk_Bulgaria
13.43999628 Turk_Southwest
13.48469132 Yoruk
13.83834528 Turk_Romania
13.85248353 Turk_Greece
14.30959468 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
14.48187488 Turk_West_BlackSea
15.71159763 Turk_Macedonia
Target: Riza
Distance: 3.0381% / 3.03813676 | ADC: 0.5x
69.4 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
25.2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
4.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.2 Tajik_Balanovsky2019
Target: Riza
Distance: 2.0655% / 2.06546420 | ADC: 0.25x
63.2 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
25.4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
5.8 Tajiks
3.8 Yoruk
1.0 French_Basque
0.4 JPT30
0.2 Japanese
0.2 Pais_Vasco
#
Gedrosia 9.26 Pct
Siberian 10.34 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 2.27 Pct
Atlantic_Med 14.25 Pct
North_European 32.42 Pct
South_Asian 1.42 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.51 Pct
East_Asian 16.78 Pct
Caucasus 11.75 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Antonina
9.59964062 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
14.24801039 Tatar_Kazan
15.58676682 Bashkir
21.63987754 Uzbek
23.27610148 Udmurt
23.45100211 Mari
23.50405710 Turk_Romania
23.83418763 HUN_Szekely
24.28202422 Turk_Bulgaria
24.30400584 Karakalpak
Target: Antonina
Distance: 2.0690% / 2.06899796 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
40.6 Tatar_Kazan
6.0 Argyll
4.0 Japanese
2.2 Chinese
And here are two Polish Tatars from Bialystok (siblings)
Gedrosia 7.18 Pct
Siberian 12.22 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 4.59 Pct
Atlantic_Med 16.44 Pct
North_European 33.04 Pct
South_Asian 1.17 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.88 Pct
East_Asian 10.11 Pct
Caucasus 12.76 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.59 Pct
Distance to: Jaroslaw
10.97382340 Tatar_Kazan
11.70854816 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
17.41080412 Bashkir
19.37336574 HUN_Szekely
19.79486550 Turk_Romania
20.67474063 Turk_Bulgaria
20.76646576 Udmurt
21.02461652 Mari
21.09420774 R.Moldova_Centre+North
22.31228585 Serb
Target: Jaroslaw
Distance: 1.8523% / 1.85231392 | ADC: 0.25x
52.2 Tatar_Kazan
37.2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
5.4 Cantabria
3.2 Lahu
1.8 Swiss_Italian
0.2 Dai
#
Gedrosia 9.90 Pct
Siberian 11.94 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.56 Pct
Atlantic_Med 14.29 Pct
North_European 32.81 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.33 Pct
East_Asian 14.08 Pct
Caucasus 14.09 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Halina
8.94025167 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
12.36309023 Tatar_Kazan
15.43405650 Bashkir
21.38145224 Turk_Romania
21.69991475 Udmurt
21.88643644 Uzbek
22.01143112 Turk_Bulgaria
22.02908759 Mari
22.22073131 HUN_Szekely
23.77339269 R.Moldova_Centre+North
Target: Halina
Distance: 2.6187% / 2.61873719 | ADC: 0.25x
55.6 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
39.2 Tatar_Kazan
3.6 Mixed_Germanic
1.6 Japanese
The Türük is so strong in them, stronger than in the Volga ones who live in a much more Eastern place!
I believe some of these guys migrated to South(Moldova) after the 1800s, then near to the Balkan Turks after and before the Russo-Turkish War.
May I ask kit numbers?
henry007
06-11-2020, 09:59 PM
Mashhad persian:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.97
2 Gedrosia 29.44
3 South_Asian 9.76
4 Atlantic_Med 8.36
5 Southwest_Asian 7.56
6 North_European 5.2
7 Siberian 3.13
8 East_Asian 2.79
9 Northwest_African 1.8
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 10.34
2 Iranians (Behar) 10.34
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 11.29
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 13.21
5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.84
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 20.01
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 20.03
8 Turks (Behar) 20.53
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.24
10 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 22.71
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 24.91
12 Lezgins (Behar) 25.22
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 25.66
14 Assyrian (Dodecad) 25.77
15 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 25.97
16 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 26.26
17 Lebanese (Behar) 26.81
18 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 26.84
19 Armenian (Dodecad) 27.1
20 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 27.69
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.3% Turks (Behar) + 34.7% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 3.87
2 63.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.5% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 4.83
3 55.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 44.2% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.83
4 53.6% Armenian (Dodecad) + 46.4% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.83
5 54.9% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 45.1% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.02
6 54.4% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 45.6% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.37
7 83.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 16.5% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 5.77
8 61.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 38.5% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.78
9 80.5% Kurd (Dodecad) + 19.5% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 5.8
10 78.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 21.4% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 5.8
11 79.7% Kurd (Dodecad) + 20.3% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 5.8
12 81.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 18.2% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 5.82
13 76% Iranian (Dodecad) + 24% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.83
14 79.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 20.4% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 5.83
15 82.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 17.2% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 5.88
16 82.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 17.2% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 5.88
17 80% Kurd (Dodecad) + 20% Indian (Dodecad) @ 5.89
18 58.4% Turks (Behar) + 41.6% Pathan (HGDP) @ 5.89
19 82% Kurd (Dodecad) + 18% Dharkars (Metspalu) @ 5.89
20 83.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 16.9% Indian (Dodecad) @ 5.91
I believe some of these guys migrated to South(Moldova) after the 1800s, then near to the Balkan Turks after and before the Russo-Turkish War.
May I ask kit numbers?
Yeah, they are related to the Crimean Tatars.
I will send them to you privately.
Mashhad persian:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.97
2 Gedrosia 29.44
3 South_Asian 9.76
4 Atlantic_Med 8.36
5 Southwest_Asian 7.56
6 North_European 5.2
7 Siberian 3.13
8 East_Asian 2.79
9 Northwest_African 1.8
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 10.34
2 Iranians (Behar) 10.34
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 11.29
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 13.21
5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.84
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 20.01
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 20.03
8 Turks (Behar) 20.53
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.24
10 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 22.71
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 24.91
12 Lezgins (Behar) 25.22
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 25.66
14 Assyrian (Dodecad) 25.77
15 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 25.97
16 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 26.26
17 Lebanese (Behar) 26.81
18 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 26.84
19 Armenian (Dodecad) 27.1
20 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 27.69
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.3% Turks (Behar) + 34.7% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 3.87
2 63.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.5% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 4.83
3 55.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 44.2% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.83
4 53.6% Armenian (Dodecad) + 46.4% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.83
5 54.9% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 45.1% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.02
6 54.4% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 45.6% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.37
7 83.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 16.5% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 5.77
8 61.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 38.5% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.78
9 80.5% Kurd (Dodecad) + 19.5% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 5.8
10 78.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 21.4% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 5.8
11 79.7% Kurd (Dodecad) + 20.3% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 5.8
12 81.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 18.2% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 5.82
13 76% Iranian (Dodecad) + 24% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.83
14 79.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 20.4% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 5.83
15 82.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 17.2% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 5.88
16 82.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 17.2% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 5.88
17 80% Kurd (Dodecad) + 20% Indian (Dodecad) @ 5.89
18 58.4% Turks (Behar) + 41.6% Pathan (HGDP) @ 5.89
19 82% Kurd (Dodecad) + 18% Dharkars (Metspalu) @ 5.89
20 83.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 16.9% Indian (Dodecad) @ 5.91
Hi, Jamal sock account! I already know it is you :swl
In this thread we try to use Vahaduo, not just spam with bullshit oracles.
henry007
06-11-2020, 10:00 PM
Part kabuli(1/2 pashtun, 1/2 tajik), 1/2 ghazni(with that side being originally from iran), mtnda: T1b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 26.32
2 Caucasus 24.38
3 South_Asian 12.23
4 North_European 10.88
5 East_Asian 10.07
6 Siberian 6.58
7 Southwest_Asian 4.87
8 Atlantic_Med 4.03
9 East_African 0.31
10 Sub_Saharan 0.14
11 Northwest_African 0.1
12 Southeast_Asian 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 8.52
2 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 12.71
3 Iranians (Behar) 21.27
4 Iranian (Dodecad) 21.58
5 Uzbeks (Behar) 22.73
6 Kurd (Dodecad) 23.17
7 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 23.27
8 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 24.79
9 Burusho (HGDP) 25.08
10 Pathan (HGDP) 25.37
11 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.4
12 Turks (Behar) 26.89
13 Hazara (HGDP) 28
14 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 28.15
15 Lezgins (Behar) 28.18
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 28.34
17 Uygur (HGDP) 29.1
18 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 29.13
19 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 31.54
20 Jatt (Dodecad) 32.75
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 11.4% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 4.16
2 89.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 10.6% Chamar (Metspalu) @ 4.32
3 90.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 9.3% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 4.33
4 89.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 10.2% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 4.35
5 90.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 9.9% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 4.39
6 91.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 8.5% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 4.5
7 88.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 11.1% Kol (Metspalu) @ 4.51
8 89.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 10.4% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 4.52
9 87.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.7% Muslim (Metspalu) @ 4.53
10 88.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 11.5% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 4.54
11 88.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 11.6% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 4.57
12 87.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.4% Kanjars (Metspalu) @ 4.62
13 89.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 10.9% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) @ 4.67
14 87.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.8% Tharus (Metspalu) @ 4.72
15 90.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 9.9% Gond (Metspalu) @ 4.74
16 90.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 9.4% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 4.74
17 87.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.4% Dharkars (Metspalu) @ 4.75
18 88.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 11.1% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 4.81
19 84.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 15.2% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 4.93
20 87.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 12.3% INS30 (SGVP) @ 4.96
henry007
06-11-2020, 10:01 PM
"Hi, Jamal sock account! I already know it is you"
Well, im not trying to hide it
Kaspias
06-11-2020, 10:01 PM
A Macedonian Turk from Radovish, supposedly Karamanid descendant. She is my father's match.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/nPHDaRvh0_RgK9gpVkyuWPdkPzB0I7p6ycTjPTHK9HEsJ7GBod hj4sHAp8_sgWzjMknhe0lkKEkbMznauECpmRm1qRAdJwpVYxoT 9kY_iklC8HyiWHSfCIi40pS6F3U4ToDRAhDjTkMfMLJaVxceov n9IA
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.91
2 North_European 26.95
3 Atlantic_Med 23.36
4 Gedrosia 7.89
5 Southwest_Asian 6.52
6 East_Asian 2.79
7 Siberian 1.54
8 South_Asian 1.31
9 Northwest_African 0.71
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.9
2 Romanians (Behar) 9.98
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 11.4
5 Greek (Dodecad) 12.42
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 15.19
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.13
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 16.6
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.78
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.08
11 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.2
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.25
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.33
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.06
15 Hungarians (Behar) 23.6
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.76
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.99
18 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 25.33
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.48
20 Turks (Behar) 26.86
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 47.2% German (Dodecad) @ 3.11
2 60.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.79
3 76.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 23.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.93
4 60.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.19
5 51% Turks (Behar) + 49% German (Dodecad) @ 4.22
6 56.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.41
7 79.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 20.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.44
8 51.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 48.5% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.45
9 79.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 20.2% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.58
10 69.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.6
11 77.5% Romanians (Behar) + 22.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.61
12 87.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 12.6% Makrani (HGDP) @ 4.62
13 54.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 4.73
14 80% Romanians (Behar) + 20% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.77
15 87.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 12.1% Balochi (HGDP) @ 4.82
16 58.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 41.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 4.87
17 79.5% Romanians (Behar) + 20.5% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.9
18 88.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 11.2% Brahui (HGDP) @ 4.94
19 79.5% Romanians (Behar) + 20.5% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.98
20 82.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.3% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.04
henry007
06-11-2020, 10:02 PM
Half safi, half popalzai from logar(though originally from kandahar), mtdna: T2e, y-dna: R-Z93
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 38.02
2 Caucasus 19.51
3 South_Asian 17.43
4 North_European 16.13
5 Siberian 3.24
6 Atlantic_Med 2.71
7 Southwest_Asian 2.44
8 Southeast_Asian 0.45
9 East_Asian 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Pathan (HGDP) 10.98
2 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 13.8
3 Burusho (HGDP) 16.16
4 Jatt (Dodecad) 19.31
5 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 20.19
6 Sindhi (HGDP) 24.16
7 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 26.32
8 Iranians (Behar) 26.33
9 Iranian (Dodecad) 27.71
10 Kurd (Dodecad) 29.71
11 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 29.76
12 Makrani (HGDP) 30.24
13 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 30.91
14 Lezgins (Behar) 30.94
15 Balochi (HGDP) 31.47
16 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 32.61
17 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 33.46
18 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 33.61
19 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 34.91
20 Indian (Dodecad) 35.59
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.8% Pathan (HGDP) + 24.2% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.65
2 77.6% Pathan (HGDP) + 22.4% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.09
3 63.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 36.4% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.23
4 74.6% Pathan (HGDP) + 25.4% Lezgins (Behar) @ 3.27
5 79.9% Pathan (HGDP) + 20.1% Adygei (HGDP) @ 3.32
6 80.2% Pathan (HGDP) + 19.8% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 3.41
7 80.2% Pathan (HGDP) + 19.8% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.54
8 61.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 38.2% Lezgins (Behar) @ 3.72
9 77.5% Pathan (HGDP) + 22.5% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 3.85
10 65.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 34.2% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.99
11 79.3% Pathan (HGDP) + 20.7% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.37
12 78.7% Pathan (HGDP) + 21.3% Turks (Behar) @ 4.41
13 69.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 30.9% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.61
14 69.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 30.8% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 4.64
15 68.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 31.2% Adygei (HGDP) @ 4.65
16 82.6% Pathan (HGDP) + 17.4% Greek (Dodecad) @ 5.09
17 82.3% Pathan (HGDP) + 17.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 5.12
18 82.9% Pathan (HGDP) + 17.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.13
19 84.2% Pathan (HGDP) + 15.8% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.16
20 56.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 43.6% Lezgins (Behar) @ 5.16
henry007
06-11-2020, 10:06 PM
3/4 logari stanikzai, 1/4 kabuli tajik, mtdna: R0a2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 33.77
2 Caucasus 23.18
3 South_Asian 16.56
4 North_European 15.26
5 Siberian 5.19
6 East_Asian 4.16
7 Southwest_Asian 1.29
8 Atlantic_Med 0.59
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 11.77
2 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 15.7
3 Pathan (HGDP) 16.22
4 Burusho (HGDP) 18.29
5 Jatt (Dodecad) 24.34
6 Iranians (Behar) 24.57
7 Iranian (Dodecad) 25.16
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 26.4
9 Kurd (Dodecad) 27.29
10 Lezgins (Behar) 27.71
11 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 28.6
12 Sindhi (HGDP) 28.81
13 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 28.94
14 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 29.92
15 Uzbeks (Behar) 30.81
16 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 32.49
17 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 32.61
18 Turks (Behar) 33.52
19 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 34.65
20 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 34.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.1% Pathan (HGDP) + 34.9% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 2.78
2 61.5% Burusho (HGDP) + 38.5% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.4
3 67.4% Burusho (HGDP) + 32.6% Adygei (HGDP) @ 3.65
4 64.4% Burusho (HGDP) + 35.6% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.67
5 67.6% Burusho (HGDP) + 32.4% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 3.71
6 67.5% Burusho (HGDP) + 32.5% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.84
7 51% Sindhi (HGDP) + 49% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 4.57
8 60.7% Burusho (HGDP) + 39.3% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.78
9 64.8% Pathan (HGDP) + 35.2% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.85
10 54.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 45.5% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.95
11 70.7% Pathan (HGDP) + 29.3% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 5.02
12 70.6% Pathan (HGDP) + 29.4% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.06
13 60.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 39.1% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.45
14 61.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 38.9% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 5.56
15 55.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 44.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 5.67
16 70.9% Pathan (HGDP) + 29.1% Adygei (HGDP) @ 5.82
17 73.1% Burusho (HGDP) + 26.9% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.92
18 50.1% Sindhi (HGDP) + 49.9% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.1
19 68.1% Pathan (HGDP) + 31.9% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.16
20 65.8% Burusho (HGDP) + 34.2% Turks (Behar) @ 6.4
henry007
06-11-2020, 10:09 PM
Pahstun with south iranian ancestry:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 24.67
2 Caucasus 18.63
3 South_Asian 18.41
4 Southwest_Asian 9.58
5 Sub_Saharan 9.35
6 North_European 8.14
7 East_Asian 3.58
8 East_African 3.19
9 Siberian 1.87
10 Atlantic_Med 1.49
11 Northwest_African 1.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 21.32
2 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.49
3 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 22.69
4 Pathan (HGDP) 24.54
5 Iranians (Behar) 25.64
6 Burusho (HGDP) 25.82
7 Iranian (Dodecad) 27.6
8 Kurd (Dodecad) 29.07
9 Jatt (Dodecad) 30.04
10 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 30.46
11 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 32.38
12 Sindhi (HGDP) 32.77
13 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 33.43
14 Uzbeks (Behar) 33.67
15 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 34.06
16 Turks (Behar) 34.17
17 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 34.58
18 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 34.93
19 Syrians (Behar) 35.28
20 Turkish (Dodecad) 35.42
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.8% Burusho (HGDP) + 40.2% Yemenese (Behar) @ 9.89
2 61.5% Burusho (HGDP) + 38.5% Egyptans (Behar) @ 11.09
3 61.7% Pathan (HGDP) + 38.3% Yemenese (Behar) @ 11.3
4 55.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 44.3% Yemenese (Behar) @ 11.35
5 63.4% Pathan (HGDP) + 36.6% Egyptans (Behar) @ 12.19
6 57.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 42.6% Egyptans (Behar) @ 12.3
7 61.8% Burusho (HGDP) + 38.2% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 12.36
8 60.2% Burusho (HGDP) + 39.8% Jordanians (Behar) @ 12.58
9 52.2% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 47.8% Yemenese (Behar) @ 12.67
10 59.5% Burusho (HGDP) + 40.5% Syrians (Behar) @ 13.02
11 51.9% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 48.1% Jordanians (Behar) @ 13.2
12 65.7% Burusho (HGDP) + 34.3% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 13.32
13 57.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 42.6% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 13.37
14 55.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 44.3% Jordanians (Behar) @ 13.43
15 60.2% Burusho (HGDP) + 39.8% Lebanese (Behar) @ 13.52
16 53.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 46.6% Yemenese (Behar) @ 13.54
17 53.9% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 46.1% Egyptans (Behar) @ 13.55
18 51% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 49% Syrians (Behar) @ 13.63
19 51.5% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 48.5% Lebanese (Behar) @ 13.7
20 66.9% Burusho (HGDP) + 33.1% Samaritians (Behar) @ 13.71
5 Sub_Saharan 9.35
8 East_African 3.19
Black Pashtun (1/8 African) xD
henry007
06-11-2020, 10:13 PM
He looks pretty pakistani to a degree or something like that. Im not sure if hes fully pashtun, since first now i noticed he already got 5% east asian with the south iranian alike ancestry
But he probs is fully pashtun, who knows
henry007
06-11-2020, 10:18 PM
Persianised kabuli kashmiri with some native kabuli ancestry:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 34.94
2 South_Asian 29.46
3 Caucasus 15.95
4 North_European 12.25
5 East_Asian 3.16
6 Siberian 2.28
7 Southwest_Asian 1.55
8 Sub_Saharan 0.3
9 Atlantic_Med 0.05
10 East_African 0.03
11 Southeast_Asian 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Pathan (HGDP) 11.3
2 Burusho (HGDP) 12.18
3 Jatt (Dodecad) 14.72
4 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 17.4
5 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 18.51
6 Sindhi (HGDP) 19.14
7 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 21.05
8 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 22.06
9 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 23.08
10 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 23.32
11 Indian (Dodecad) 23.74
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 25.8
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 26.42
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 28.06
15 GIH30 (Dodecad) 28.95
16 Tharus (Metspalu) 29.04
17 INS30 (SGVP) 29.86
18 Muslim (Metspalu) 30.37
19 Dharkars (Metspalu) 30.38
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 31.01
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.3% Indian (Dodecad) + 36.7% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.24
2 61.3% Iyer (Dodecad) + 38.7% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.25
3 64% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) + 36% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.36
4 60.7% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 39.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.47
5 60.8% Iyengar (Dodecad) + 39.2% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.66
6 56.2% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 43.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.71
7 65.2% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 34.8% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.78
8 65.7% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 34.3% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.79
9 64% Indian (Dodecad) + 36% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.99
10 66.5% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 33.5% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 5.11
11 61.4% Iyengar (Dodecad) + 38.6% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.12
12 69.9% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 30.1% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.21
13 68% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 32% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 5.29
14 62% Iyer (Dodecad) + 38% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.32
15 63.9% Iyer (Dodecad) + 36.1% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.36
16 64.7% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) + 35.3% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.37
17 65.9% Indian (Dodecad) + 34.1% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.42
18 51.6% Iyengar (Dodecad) + 48.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.47
19 68.8% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 31.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 5.5
20 69.5% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 30.5% Lezgins (Behar) @ 5.53
henry007
06-11-2020, 10:22 PM
Balkh tajik, mtdna: C4a1, y-dna: E1b1b1b1a2:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 23.33
2 Caucasus 17.85
3 North_European 13.44
4 East_Asian 10.94
5 Siberian 8.97
6 South_Asian 8.17
7 Southwest_Asian 7.08
8 Atlantic_Med 5.93
9 Southeast_Asian 4.22
10 Sub_Saharan 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 12.35
2 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 12.8
3 Uzbeks (Behar) 17.92
4 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 23.58
5 Hazara (HGDP) 23.68
6 Uygur (HGDP) 24.5
7 Iranians (Behar) 25.9
8 Iranian (Dodecad) 26.39
9 Kurd (Dodecad) 27.35
10 Burusho (HGDP) 28.13
11 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 28.94
12 Pathan (HGDP) 29
13 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 29.05
14 Turks (Behar) 29.97
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 31.03
16 Lezgins (Behar) 32.29
17 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 32.52
18 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 33.21
19 Lebanese (Behar) 35.1
20 Jatt (Dodecad) 35.38
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 37.3% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 7.72
2 70.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 29.6% Hazara (HGDP) @ 8.04
3 71.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 28.7% Uygur (HGDP) @ 8.13
4 60.8% Uzbeks (Behar) + 39.2% Iranians (Behar) @ 8.48
5 85.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 14.9% Garo (Chaubey) @ 8.59
6 86.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 13.9% Garo (Chaubey) @ 8.67
7 62.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 37.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 8.72
8 85.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 14.4% Burmanese (Chaubey) @ 8.74
9 85.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 14.8% Khasi (Chaubey) @ 8.76
10 84.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 15.1% Burmanese (Chaubey) @ 8.9
11 84.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 15.5% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 8.94
12 72.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 27.9% Uygur (HGDP) @ 9.31
13 86.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 13.8% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 9.32
14 71.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 28.7% Hazara (HGDP) @ 9.34
15 88.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 11.8% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 9.42
16 61.8% Uzbeks (Behar) + 38.2% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 9.42
17 88.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 11.3% Naxi (HGDP) @ 9.5
18 89.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 10.9% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 9.52
19 85.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 14.7% Khasi (Chaubey) @ 9.53
20 88.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 11.2% Yizu (HGDP) @ 9.53
Some very interesting finds - Belarusian Tatars (siblings or close relatives). There is a couple of other people on that account but they seem mixed with Belarusians
Lithuanian Tatar
R-Z93
H11
Gedrosia 7.89 Pct
Siberian 14.02 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.31 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.47 Pct
North_European 31.10 Pct
South_Asian 1.51 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.09 Pct
East_Asian 16.00 Pct
Caucasus 12.02 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.59 Pct
Distanceto: V.J.
7.91386758 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
12.46841209 Bashkir
14.76579155 Tatar_Kazan
20.62634480 Uzbek
22.00620594 Mari
22.02028383 Karakalpak
22.41907893 Udmurt
24.34596887 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
24.44840895 Turk_Romania
24.96753292 Turk_Bulgaria
Target: V.J.
Distance: 2.5675% / 2.56747934 | ADC: 0.25x
52.6 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
24.0 Tatar_Kazan
17.6 Bashkir
2.0 Swedish
1.8 Japanese
0.8 Finnish
0.6 JPT30
0.6 Saudis
Mingle
06-13-2020, 03:55 AM
# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 36.85
2 South_Asian 21.57
3 Caucasus 18.93
4 North_European 15.49
5 Southwest_Asian 3.09
6 Atlantic_Med 1.92
7 Southeast_Asian 1.35
8 Siberian 0.59
9 East_Asian 0.21
https://i.imgur.com/tFMgKpq.png
Kaspias
06-15-2020, 12:30 PM
My father
Gedmatch:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 23.61
2 North_European 21.8
3 Atlantic_Med 19.69
4 Gedrosia 11.44
5 Siberian 8
6 Southwest_Asian 7.48
7 East_Asian 3.79
8 South_Asian 2.95
9 Northwest_African 1
10 East_African 0.24
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17.51
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.21
3 Romanians (Behar) 18.82
4 Greek (Dodecad) 19.08
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 19.25
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 20.27
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 21.16
8 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.25
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.47
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.65
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.66
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.75
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.89
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.05
15 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 24.21
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.74
17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.92
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.62
19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.74
20 Turks (Behar) 25.77
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 36% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.61
2 59.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 40.2% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 7.52
3 59.7% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 40.3% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 7.55
4 59.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 40.2% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 7.77
5 61.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 38.7% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 7.99
6 62.9% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 37.1% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 8.09
7 63.7% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 36.3% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 8.12
8 62% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 38% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 8.14
9 62.5% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 37.5% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 8.16
10 62.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 37.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 8.29
11 60.5% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 39.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 8.31
12 59.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 40.2% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 8.37
13 62.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 37.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 8.4
14 60.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 39.6% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 8.43
15 70.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 29.1% Hazara (HGDP) @ 8.43
16 62.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 37.2% Spaniards (Behar) @ 8.44
17 64.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 35.7% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 8.54
18 58.6% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 41.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 8.63
19 65% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 35% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 8.64
20 59.5% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 40.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 8.66
Vahaduo
Distance to: Kaspias_dad
10.32545883 Turk_Bulgaria
10.43199406 Turk_Romania
10.97778211 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
11.27964538 Turk_Greece
13.49962962 Turk_Macedonia
13.97630137 Turk_Northwest
14.48071131 R.Moldova_Gagauz
15.08082889 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
15.38648433 Gagauz
16.06863404 R.Moldova_South
16.61317935 Italy_Apulia
16.70341282 Albanian_Kosovo
16.77521982 Turk_Southwest
17.28972238 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
17.29242158 Italy_Lazio
17.40215504 Pomak
17.57487696 Albanian_North
17.58608541 Turk_West_BlackSea
17.83442738 Yoruk
18.05044807 Italy_Abruzzo
18.41464363 Macedonian
18.46892574 Italy_Marche
18.80010758 Italy_Sicily
19.18471788 Italy_Romagna
19.36714744 Bulgarian
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Some Iranian
Population
Gedrosia 28.04 Pct
Siberian 2.77 Pct
Northwest_African 1.00 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.23 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.46 Pct
North_European 7.38 Pct
South_Asian 6.47 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.93 Pct
East_Asian 1.90 Pct
Caucasus 31.74 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.09 Pct
Distance to: Maryam
4.17891134 Iran_Central_East
4.66314272 Iranian_Fars
5.64217157 Iran_Khorasan
7.66673985 Iranians
9.09746118 Lur_Iran
9.38418350 Kurd_Sorani
9.55494113 Iranian
10.05959244 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.32671293 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.49287854 Iran_Mazandaran
Target: Maryam
Distance: 2.4872% / 2.48724173 | ADC: 0.5x
45.0 Iran_Central_East
43.2 Iranian_Fars
10.4 Turkmens
1.4 French_Basque
Target: Maryam
Distance: 1.4728% / 1.47278153 | ADC: 0.25x
52.0 Iranian_Fars
33.0 Iran_Central_East
8.8 Turkmens
2.4 French_Basque
1.6 Brahui
1.0 Iranians
0.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.6 Yukagir
Daos777
06-15-2020, 04:49 PM
Balkh tajik, mtdna: C4a1, y-dna: E1b1b1b1a2:
Admix Results (sorted):
#PopulationPercent
1Gedrosia23.33
2Caucasus17.85
3North_European13.44
4East_Asian10.94
5Siberian8.97
6South_Asian8.17
7Southwest_Asian7.08
8Atlantic_Med5.93
9Southeast_Asian4.22
10Sub_Saharan0.07
Single Population Sharing:
#Population (source)Distance
1Turkmens (Yunusbayev)12.35
2Tajiks (Yunusbayev)12.8
3Uzbeks (Behar)17.92
4Nogais (Yunusbayev)23.58
5Hazara (HGDP)23.68
6Uygur (HGDP)24.5
7Iranians (Behar)25.9
8Iranian (Dodecad)26.39
9Kurd (Dodecad)27.35
10Burusho (HGDP)28.13
11Kurds (Yunusbayev)28.94
12Pathan (HGDP)29
13Kumyks (Yunusbayev)29.05
14Turks (Behar)29.97
15Turkish (Dodecad)31.03
16Lezgins (Behar)32.29
17Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar)32.52
18Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar)33.21
19Lebanese (Behar)35.1
20Jatt (Dodecad)35.38
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 62.7%Turkmens (Yunusbayev)+37.3%Uzbeks (Behar)@7.72
2 70.4%Turkmens (Yunusbayev)+29.6%Hazara (HGDP)@8.04
3 71.3%Turkmens (Yunusbayev)+28.7%Uygur (HGDP)@8.13
4 60.8%Uzbeks (Behar)+39.2%Iranians (Behar)@8.48
5 85.1%Tajiks (Yunusbayev)+14.9%Garo (Chaubey)@8.59
6 86.1%Turkmens (Yunusbayev)+13.9%Garo (Chaubey)@8.67
7 62.6%Tajiks (Yunusbayev)+37.4%Uzbeks (Behar)@8.72
8 85.6%Turkmens (Yunusbayev)+14.4%Burmanese (Chaubey)@8.74
9 85.2%Turkmens (Yunusbayev)+14.8%Khasi (Chaubey)@8.76
10 84.9%Tajiks (Yunusbayev)+15.1%Burmanese (Chaubey)@8.9
11 84.5%Turkmens (Yunusbayev)+15.5%Altai (Rasmussen)@8.94
12 72.1%Tajiks (Yunusbayev)+27.9%Uygur (HGDP)@9.31
13 86.2%Turkmens (Yunusbayev)+13.8%Mongol (Rasmussen)@9.32
14 71.3%Tajiks (Yunusbayev)+28.7%Hazara (HGDP)@9.34
15 88.2%Tajiks (Yunusbayev)+11.8%Oroqen (HGDP)@9.42
16 61.8%Uzbeks (Behar)+38.2%Iranian (Dodecad)@9.42
17 88.7%Tajiks (Yunusbayev)+11.3%Naxi (HGDP)@9.5
18 89.1%Turkmens (Yunusbayev)+10.9%Oroqen (HGDP)@9.52
19 85.3%Tajiks (Yunusbayev)+14.7%Khasi (Chaubey)@9.53
20 88.8%Tajiks (Yunusbayev)+11.2%Yizu (HGDP)@9.53
Haplo E popping up in Tajiks yet again.
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Dr_Maul
06-15-2020, 04:50 PM
Some Iranian
Population
Gedrosia 28.04 Pct
Siberian 2.77 Pct
Northwest_African 1.00 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.23 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.46 Pct
North_European 7.38 Pct
South_Asian 6.47 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.93 Pct
East_Asian 1.90 Pct
Caucasus 31.74 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.09 Pct
Distance to: Maryam
4.17891134 Iran_Central_East
4.66314272 Iranian_Fars
5.64217157 Iran_Khorasan
7.66673985 Iranians
9.09746118 Lur_Iran
9.38418350 Kurd_Sorani
9.55494113 Iranian
10.05959244 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.32671293 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.49287854 Iran_Mazandaran
Target: Maryam
Distance: 2.4872% / 2.48724173 | ADC: 0.5x
45.0 Iran_Central_East
43.2 Iranian_Fars
10.4 Turkmens
1.4 French_Basque
Target: Maryam
Distance: 1.4728% / 1.47278153 | ADC: 0.25x
52.0 Iranian_Fars
33.0 Iran_Central_East
8.8 Turkmens
2.4 French_Basque
1.6 Brahui
1.0 Iranians
0.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.6 Yukagir
Sistani/Kermani result
Haplo E popping up in Tajiks yet again.
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The user Bakha (peace be upon him) who is half Bukharan Uzbek/Tajik and half Russian is also E-V13.
Kaspias
06-15-2020, 05:03 PM
The user Bakha (peace be upon him) who is half Bukharan Uzbek/Tajik and half Russian is also E-V13.
He is paternally coastal Crimean Tatar as far as I know.
He is paternally coastal Crimean Tatar as far as I know.
He changed his ethnic background many times :D
Daos777
06-15-2020, 05:06 PM
The user Bakha (peace be upon him) who is half Bukharan Uzbek/Tajik and half Russian is also E-V13.
Yeah I remember that guy. This forum in general is over represented by E-V13 carriers lol
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Norka was also E-V13, he was Northern Russian and allegedly Crimean Tatar (paternal grandfather), although autosomally that is not detectable
Gedrosia 5.65
Siberian 7.85
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 18.40
North_European 55.12
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.43
East_Asian 1.81
Caucasus 9.70
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Norka
6.26825335 Rus_Tver
6.79464495 Southwest_Rus
7.29392213 Rus_Kostroma
7.49262304 Rus_Smolensk
8.60101738 Rus_Pinega
8.80338003 Ukrainian
9.25059458 Belorussian
9.54722996 PL_Mazovia
10.22838208 Komi
11.48230378 Sorb_Lusatia
Target: Norka
Distance: 1.5523% / 1.55225459 | ADC: 0.5x
42.0 Rus_Tver
35.8 Komi
22.2 Rus_Smolensk
Target: Norka
Distance: 1.0928% / 1.09281892 | ADC: 0.25x
35.8 Komi
24.4 Rus_Tver
17.6 Rus_Smolensk
9.8 Southwest_Rus
9.4 Ukrainian
3.0 Tatar_Kazan
harutsafaryan07
06-16-2020, 01:24 PM
Georgian
Gedrosia 18.25 Pct
Siberian 2.14 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.05 Pct
Atlantic_Med 9.33 Pct
North_European 9.45 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.78 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 51.00 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Guram
3.70213452 Turk_Ahiska
5.82229336 Armenian_East
6.55242703 Turk_East
6.84435534 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.92895958 Hemshin
8.18114295 Laz
8.78911258 Greek_Pontus
9.17196816 Abkhazian
9.67735501 Georgian_Turkey
9.67928200 Armenian_West
9.75856034 Georgian_Adjara
10.24778513 Georgian_Gurian
10.29868438 Georgian_Imereti
11.30990716 Georgia_Jews
11.33094877 Circassian
11.50633304 Ossetian
11.87408523 Zaza
11.92544339 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.02232923 Azerbaijan_Jews
12.02237913 Georgian_Svan
12.04260769 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.28176697 Georgian_Mingrelian
12.52423251 Turk_Central_East
12.92979505 Talysh_Azerbaijan
13.34350029 Greek_Cappadocia
admix
Target: Guram
Distance: 2.8943% / 2.89430760 | ADC: 1x
84.8 Turk_Ahiska
15.2 Turk_East
Target: Guram
Distance: 2.0566% / 2.05659824 | ADC: 0.5x
77.4 Turk_Ahiska
16.6 Turk_East
4.0 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
2.0 Ossetian
Target: Guram
Distance: 1.0971% / 1.09705465 | ADC: 0.25x
84.4 Turk_Ahiska
8.4 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
6.0 Armenian_East
1.0 Nganassan
0.2 Selkup
harutsafaryan07
06-17-2020, 09:13 AM
3/4 Armenian 1/4 Ukrainian
Gedrosia 14.65 Pct
Siberian 1.08 Pct
Northwest_African 0.78 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 14.46 Pct
North_European 19.68 Pct
South_Asian 0.83 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.34 Pct
East_Asian 1.39 Pct
Caucasus 38.78 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: 3/4_Armenian_1/4_Ukrainian
8.11851587 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
8.21729883 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
8.85747707 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.48093030 Turk_Northwest
10.65763576 Turk_Central_West
10.88495751 Turk_Anatolia
11.03846457 Turk_Southwest
11.85826716 Turk_Central_East
12.09694590 Karachay
12.14237209 Turk_South
12.31758499 Qumuq
12.70639996 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.89872474 Balkar
13.77284284 Turk_Southeast
13.93468694 Ingush
14.04806392 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.24798582 Azerbaijani
14.37586519 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.66588218 Chechen
14.71023793 Yoruk
14.86373439 Ossetian
14.93304055 Greek_Crete
15.03623291 Circassian
15.41348111 Turk_East
15.52526676 Italy_Apulia
3/4 Armenian 1/4 Ukrainian
Gedrosia 14.65 Pct
Siberian 1.08 Pct
Northwest_African 0.78 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 14.46 Pct
North_European 19.68 Pct
South_Asian 0.83 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.34 Pct
East_Asian 1.39 Pct
Caucasus 38.78 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: 3/4_Armenian_1/4_Ukrainian
8.11851587 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
8.21729883 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
8.85747707 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.48093030 Turk_Northwest
10.65763576 Turk_Central_West
10.88495751 Turk_Anatolia
11.03846457 Turk_Southwest
11.85826716 Turk_Central_East
12.09694590 Karachay
12.14237209 Turk_South
12.31758499 Qumuq
12.70639996 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.89872474 Balkar
13.77284284 Turk_Southeast
13.93468694 Ingush
14.04806392 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.24798582 Azerbaijani
14.37586519 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.66588218 Chechen
14.71023793 Yoruk
14.86373439 Ossetian
14.93304055 Greek_Crete
15.03623291 Circassian
15.41348111 Turk_East
15.52526676 Italy_Apulia
Deleted everything except Armenian and Russian/Ukrainian
Target: 3/4_Armenian_1/4_Ukrainian
Distance: 3.0235% / 3.02350855 | ADC: 0.25x
72.8 Armenian_East
15.4 Ukrainian
11.8 Rus_Smolensk
Target: 3/4_Armenian_1/4_Ukrainian
Distance: 2.8797% / 2.87968828
72.2 Armenian_East
25.2 Rus_Smolensk
2.6 Rus_Pinega
Some Georgian kits, maybe they've been posted before
Kit Number: M792069
Name: *Kopala
Kit Number: M798469
Name: *Yolanda
Kit Number: T052631
Name: Temur Zurebiani
Kit Number: T062672
Name: *Bagrationi
Kit Number: T330064
Name: *Pkhoveli
Kit Number: T826919
Name: *Kachreti
Kit Number: T266696
Name: *Aragon
Kit Number: T868623
Name: *Tevali
Kit Number: H714366
Name: *Laghidze
Kit Number: T423174
Name: *Achabeti
Population
Gedrosia 20.60 Pct
Siberian 0.66 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.85 Pct
Atlantic_Med 2.43 Pct
North_European 10.47 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.70 Pct
East_Asian 1.22 Pct
Caucasus 60.07 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Temur
2.05815451 Georgian_Svan
3.41569905 Georgian_Mingrelian
4.11568949 Georgian_Gurian
5.33307604 Georgian_Imereti
5.65457337 Abkhazian
8.38774105 Georgian_Turkey
9.85632284 Georgian_Adjara
10.87783067 Turk_Ahiska
11.65284515 Adygei
11.83609733 North_Ossetians
Target: Temur
Distance: 1.8276% / 1.82758917
75.4 Georgian_Svan
24.6 Georgian_Mingrelian
Extremely high Caucasus and extremely low Atlantic_Med. This guy must actually be a Svan judging by his last name.
Chechens
Population
Gedrosia 22.46 Pct
Siberian 1.58 Pct
Northwest_African 0.17 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.86 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.72 Pct
North_European 19.25 Pct
South_Asian 0.60 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.79 Pct
East_Asian 0.96 Pct
Caucasus 45.57 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Orstkhoy
2.65420421 Ingush
3.78322614 Chechen
5.19615242 Kumyks
5.23889301 Circassian
5.73981707 Ossetian
6.15077231 Balkar
6.77321194 Karachay
7.79443391 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.14511705 Qumuq
10.22835275 Lezgin
Target: Orstkhoy
Distance: 1.9500% / 1.94999681 | ADC: 0.5x
71.0 Ingush
23.2 Chechen
5.8 Adygei
Target: Orstkhoy
Distance: 1.5067% / 1.50668204 | ADC: 0.25x
53.8 Chechen
36.6 Ingush
9.4 Georgian_Mingrelian
0.2 Sardinian
Population
Gedrosia 22.35 Pct
Siberian 3.60 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.52 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.77 Pct
North_European 20.97 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.64 Pct
East_Asian 1.11 Pct
Caucasus 41.04 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Merzhoy
3.39814655 Chechen
4.41526896 Ingush
5.07929129 Qumuq
6.17690861 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
6.48872869 Balkar
6.81053596 Lezgin
7.21521309 Avar_Dagestan
7.33362121 Kumyks
7.46793144 Karachay
8.64734641 Avar
Target: Merzhoy
Distance: 1.8380% / 1.83799782 | ADC: 1x
64.2 Chechen
26.4 Qumuq
9.4 Ingush
Target: Merzhoy
Distance: 1.2418% / 1.24183034 | ADC: 0.5x
41.4 Chechen
33.0 Qumuq
20.2 Ingush
5.4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: Merzhoy
Distance: 0.8469% / 0.84685114 | ADC: 0.25x
48.8 Chechen
28.8 Qumuq
15.8 Ingush
5.4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.8 Saudis
0.4 Nganassan
This Georgian from the list is a bit different
Population
Gedrosia 20.31 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.24 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.49 Pct
North_European 11.24 Pct
South_Asian 0.72 Pct
East_African 0.19 Pct
Southwest_Asian 9.86 Pct
East_Asian 0.09 Pct
Caucasus 51.87 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Telavi
4.15457579 Turk_Ahiska
6.59874988 Abkhazian
8.26226361 Georgian_Gurian
9.01767154 Georgian_Imereti
9.01916848 Armenian_East
9.40422777 Georgian_Turkey
9.49015806 Georgian_Svan
9.66712987 Turk_East
9.67732918 Hemshin
9.75306106 Laz
Target: Telavi
Distance: 2.5165% / 2.51652565 | ADC: 0.5x
71.2 Turk_Ahiska
17.0 Abkhazian
11.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: Telavi
Distance: 1.5772% / 1.57724107 | ADC: 0.25x
50.0 Turk_Ahiska
36.4 Abkhazian
6.4 Kurds
5.2 Tabasaran
2.0 Saudis
Another Udi (Native of Azerbaijan):
Gedrosian: 20.39
Siberian: 0.80
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0
Atlantic_Med: 7.81
North_European: 10.13
South_Asian 0.68
East_African 0.11
Southwest_Asian: 13.01
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 46.75
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Udi_Azerbaijan3
5.03790631 Turk_East
6.71491623 Armenian_East
6.94598445 Zaza
7.63852080 Turk_Ahiska
8.13416253 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.31436107 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.38311398 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.90005056 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.21346298 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.29826866 Kurd_KAZ
9.64223003 Azerbaijani
9.71468476 Armenian_West
9.87828933 Kurds
10.61962805 Turk_Southeast
10.63403968 Turk_Central_East
10.63988252 Turkmen_Iraq
10.83740744 Kurd_Sorani
10.92560296 Georgia_Jews
11.15538435 Turk_East_Black_Sea
11.54460480 Assyrian
11.67041559 Kurd
11.78373455 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.98242880 Azerbaijan_Jews
12.04942322 Iranian
12.09008685 Hemshin
Target: Udi_Azerbaijan3
Distance: 1.1887% / 1.18867407 | ADC: 0.25x
31.6 Armenian_East
30.4 Uzbekistan_Jews
17.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.2 Chechen
9.8 Turk_Ahiska
Target: Udi_Azerbaijan3
Distance: 2.2908% / 2.29079407 | ADC: 0.5x
34.0 Armenian_East
33.0 Zaza
10.6 Ingush
10.2 Turk_Ahiska
7.0 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.2 Circassian
Another Udi (Native of Azerbaijan):
Gedrosian: 20.39
Siberian: 0.80
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0
Atlantic_Med: 7.81
North_European: 10.13
South_Asian 0.68
East_African 0.11
Southwest_Asian: 13.01
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 46.75
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Udi_Azerbaijan3
5.03790631 Turk_East
6.71491623 Armenian_East
6.94598445 Zaza
7.63852080 Turk_Ahiska
8.13416253 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.31436107 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.38311398 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.90005056 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.21346298 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.29826866 Kurd_KAZ
9.64223003 Azerbaijani
9.71468476 Armenian_West
9.87828933 Kurds
10.61962805 Turk_Southeast
10.63403968 Turk_Central_East
10.63988252 Turkmen_Iraq
10.83740744 Kurd_Sorani
10.92560296 Georgia_Jews
11.15538435 Turk_East_Black_Sea
11.54460480 Assyrian
11.67041559 Kurd
11.78373455 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.98242880 Azerbaijan_Jews
12.04942322 Iranian
12.09008685 Hemshin
Target: Udi_Azerbaijan3
Distance: 1.1887% / 1.18867407 | ADC: 0.25x
31.6 Armenian_East
30.4 Uzbekistan_Jews
17.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.2 Chechen
9.8 Turk_Ahiska
Target: Udi_Azerbaijan3
Distance: 2.2908% / 2.29079407 | ADC: 0.5x
34.0 Armenian_East
33.0 Zaza
10.6 Ingush
10.2 Turk_Ahiska
7.0 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.2 Circassian
What are their West Asian, East Med, West Med and Red Sea scores? I mean all three of them.
What are their West Asian, East Med, West Med and Red Sea scores? I mean all three of them.
1
West Asian 40.18
East Med 26.85
West Med 6.10
Red Sea 4.54
Northeast_african --
2
West Asian 36.46
East Med 32.23
West Med 5.85
Red Sea 4.34
Northeast_african --
3
West Asian 40.04
East Med 29.51
West Med 5.91
Red Sea 4.86
Northeast_african --
1
West Asian 40.18
East Med 26.85
West Med 6.10
Red Sea 4.54
Northeast_african --
2
West Asian 36.46
East Med 32.23
West Med 5.85
Red Sea 4.34
Northeast_african --
3
West Asian 40.04
East Med 29.51
West Med 5.91
Red Sea 4.86
Northeast_african --
I think Azerbaijanis carry that type of ancestry. It actually looks Anatolian-like to me. Although even Armenians score more West Med than that.
Compare with the Tsakhur (Lezgic)
Population
Gedrosia 24.94 Pct
Siberian 1.97 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.01 Pct
North_European 21.83 Pct
South_Asian 0.89 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.13 Pct
East_Asian 3.31 Pct
Caucasus 37.91 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Tsakhur
3.93419623 Lezgin
4.10851555 Qumuq
5.30965159 Avar_Dagestan
5.77612327 Tabasaran
5.80412784 Avar
6.54359993 Chechen
6.98108874 Lak
7.18244387 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.42216276 Dargin
8.12986470 Ingush
Target: Tsakhur
Distance: 1.7300% / 1.73003098 | ADC: 0.5x
52.6 Lezgin
37.0 Qumuq
9.8 Chechen
0.4 JPT30
0.2 Japanese
Target: Tsakhur
Distance: 0.8198% / 0.81980048 | ADC: 0.25x
54.2 Lezgin
20.6 Chechen
20.2 Qumuq
3.2 Tabasaran
1.4 Japanese
0.4 JPT30
K13
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 46.59
2 Baltic 14.06
3 East_Med 12.85
4 North_Atlantic 10.34
5 South_Asian 6.16
6 Siberian 3.52
7 West_Med 3.14
8 East_Asian 1.17
9 Red_Sea 1.09
10 Amerindian 1.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Chechen 3.71
2 Lezgin 4.01
3 Tabassaran 4.64
4 Kabardin 6.91
5 North_Ossetian 7.31
6 Adygei 7.51
7 Kumyk 8.13
8 Balkar 8.74
9 Ossetian 9.41
10 Georgian 15.56
11 Tadjik 16.87
12 Abhkasian 17.36
13 Turkmen 18.36
14 Afghan_Pashtun 19.21
15 Afghan_Tadjik 19.76
16 Kurdish 19.88
17 Azeri 19.99
18 Nogay 20.12
19 Iranian 21.18
20 Turkish 23.31
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.6% Tabassaran + 32.4% Balkar @ 2.27
2 63.2% Tabassaran + 36.8% North_Ossetian @ 2.31
3 61.8% Tabassaran + 38.2% Kabardin @ 2.32
4 85.9% Lezgin + 14.1% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.39
5 87.2% Chechen + 12.8% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.45
6 84% Lezgin + 16% Tadjik @ 2.47
7 85.9% Chechen + 14.1% Tadjik @ 2.5
8 70.2% Tabassaran + 29.8% Ossetian @ 2.6
9 92.4% Chechen + 7.6% Burusho @ 2.62
10 88.4% Chechen + 11.6% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.67
11 93.7% Chechen + 6.3% Sindhi @ 2.7
12 91.5% Lezgin + 8.5% Burusho @ 2.71
13 92.7% Chechen + 7.3% Pathan @ 2.72
14 65.1% Tabassaran + 34.9% Adygei @ 2.73
15 91.8% Chechen + 8.2% Kalash @ 2.73
16 91.1% Chechen + 8.9% Balochi @ 2.73
17 91.4% Chechen + 8.6% Brahui @ 2.75
18 91% Chechen + 9% Makrani @ 2.8
19 95.5% Chechen + 4.5% Gujarati @ 2.82
20 93.7% Chechen + 6.3% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.83
I think Azerbaijanis carry that type of ancestry. It actually looks Anatolian-like to me. Although even Armenians score more West Med than that.
It looks like a mix of Armenians and Kurds with a bit of Caucasus. Iranian Azerbaijani native ancestry is probably stronger Kurdish/Talysh shifted. Although it's not necessarily visible in Autosomal DNA it is in YDNA.
Rep.Azerbaijan has more Caucasian J1 and Armenian R1b. Iranian Azerbaijan has more R1a.
J2 is most dominant in both regions.
harutsafaryan07
06-21-2020, 02:24 PM
very interesting result for Armenian although i guess this result is possible Cherkesogai
Gedrosia 15.88 Pct
Siberian 0.65 Pct
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asian 0
Atlantic_Med 9.15 Pct
North_European 16.32 Pct
South_Asian 0
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 12.32 Pct
East_Asian 0
Caucasus 45.69 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0
Distance to: Sarkisyan
9.45321109 Turk_East
10.84536306 Turk_Central_East
10.88565570 Circassian
11.01764040 Ossetian
11.15132279 Armenian_East
11.42516083 Karachay
11.66754044 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.67483190 Balkar
11.80655327 Ingush
11.97512839 Turk_Ahiska
12.17942938 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.33203957 Turk_Southeast
12.34505164 Azerbaijani
12.43781331 Turk_Central_West
12.45168262 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.55731261 Turk_Anatolia
12.81000781 Turk_West_BlackSea
12.82644924 Turk_South
12.88884401 Kumyks
13.07135035 Zaza
13.12492286 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.94863793 Chechen
14.17316478 Kurd_Kurmanji
14.29062280 Abkhazian
14.31172596 Turk_East_Black_Sea
Admixture
Target: Sarkisyan
Distance: 2.2921% / 2.29213747 | ADC: 0.25x
27.2 Armenian_East
25.8 Chechen
17.6 Georgia_Jews
13.2 Bulgarian
12.4 Circassian
3.6 Yemen_Jews
0.2 Mixed_Slav
Target: Sarkisyan
Distance: 4.6351% / 4.63509622 | ADC: 0.5x
46.8 Armenian_East
30.6 Balkar
15.2 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
6.2 Chechen
0.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.4 Yemen_Jews
very interesting result for Armenian although i guess this result is possible Cherkesogai
Gedrosia 15.88 Pct
Siberian 0.65 Pct
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asian 0
Atlantic_Med 9.15 Pct
North_European 16.32 Pct
South_Asian 0
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 12.32 Pct
East_Asian 0
Caucasus 45.69 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0
Distance to: Sarkisyan
9.45321109 Turk_East
10.84536306 Turk_Central_East
10.88565570 Circassian
11.01764040 Ossetian
11.15132279 Armenian_East
11.42516083 Karachay
11.66754044 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.67483190 Balkar
11.80655327 Ingush
11.97512839 Turk_Ahiska
12.17942938 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.33203957 Turk_Southeast
12.34505164 Azerbaijani
12.43781331 Turk_Central_West
12.45168262 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.55731261 Turk_Anatolia
12.81000781 Turk_West_BlackSea
12.82644924 Turk_South
12.88884401 Kumyks
13.07135035 Zaza
13.12492286 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.94863793 Chechen
14.17316478 Kurd_Kurmanji
14.29062280 Abkhazian
14.31172596 Turk_East_Black_Sea
Admixture
Target: Sarkisyan
Distance: 2.2921% / 2.29213747 | ADC: 0.25x
27.2 Armenian_East
25.8 Chechen
17.6 Georgia_Jews
13.2 Bulgarian
12.4 Circassian
3.6 Yemen_Jews
0.2 Mixed_Slav
Target: Sarkisyan
Distance: 4.6351% / 4.63509622 | ADC: 0.5x
46.8 Armenian_East
30.6 Balkar
15.2 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
6.2 Chechen
0.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.4 Yemen_Jews
No way this is a full Armenian.
harutsafaryan07
06-21-2020, 05:50 PM
No way this is a full Armenian.I did not say that is Full Armenian quite possibly with the caucasus admixture
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Half German, half Bangladeshi
Population
Gedrosia 17.25 Pct
Siberian 0.09 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 6.23 Pct
Atlantic_Med 13.26 Pct
North_European 30.57 Pct
South_Asian 24.67 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 2.03 Pct
Caucasus 5.90 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Target: GermanBangla
Distance: 2.0906% / 2.09060662 | ADC: 0.25x
44.4 Sorb_Lusatia
40.4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
10.0 Khasi
3.6 BONDA
1.4 Balkan_Gypsy
0.2 German
Her video:
https://youtu.be/6p9BzWsYwsc
50% Iranian Azerbaijani + 50%Persian
Gedrosian: 25.40
Siberian: 3.78
Northwest_African: 0.60
Southeast_Asian: 1.54
Atlantic_Med: 5.74
North_European: 9.92
South_Asian 4.75
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.09
East_Asian: 1.33
Caucasian: 36.71
SSA: 0.12
Distance to: IranianAzeri7
6.27730038 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.59436123 Iran_Khorasan
6.65137580 Iran_Central_East
7.08648009 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.09878863 Iranian_Fars
7.16044691 Iranian
7.22730932 Azerbaijani
7.45984584 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.03508556 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.42429819 Kurd_Sorani
8.70928815 Zaza
8.74429528 Lur_Iran
8.81093639 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.82167784 Kurd
9.22905196 Iran_Mazandaran
9.44451163 Kurd_KAZ
9.56869897 Iranians
9.72861758 Kurds
10.16803324 Turkmen_Iraq
10.51545054 Turk_Southeast
11.49514245 Turkmens
11.81985618 Turkmen_Iran
12.68958234 Turk_South
13.04187870 Turk_Central_East
13.68588689 Turk_East
Target: IranianAzeri7
Distance: 1.0518% / 1.05183044 | ADC: 0.25x
25.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
23.2 Iran_Central_East
18.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
16.8 Iranian
14.4 Iran_Khorasan
1.0 Nganassan
0.6 Cambodians
Iranian Azerbaijani
Gedrosian: 21.13
Siberian: 2.86
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.66
Atlantic_Med: 7.66
North_European: 11.02
South_Asian 4.14
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.90
East_Asian: 3.36
Caucasian: 37.05
SSA: 0.21
Distance to: IranianAzeri8
3.18240475 Azerbaijani
4.14376640 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.81259805 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.95099992 Turk_Southeast
7.16763559 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.03961442 Turk_South
8.17949876 Zaza
8.27256309 Kurd_Sorani
8.29142328 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.43183254 Turkmen_Iraq
8.51862078 Turk_Central_East
9.07133397 Iran_Khorasan
9.28671632 Turk_Anatolia
9.39664302 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.56402635 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.57141578 Turk_Central_West
9.61943346 Iranian_Fars
9.88146244 Iran_Central_East
10.40153354 Iranian
10.85028110 Lur_Iran
10.99234279 Turk_East
11.04897733 Kurd
11.08442601 Kurd_KAZ
11.18739022 Turk_Southwest
11.27564189 Turk_West_BlackSea
Target: IranianAzeri8
Distance: 1.0613% / 1.06126030 | ADC: 0.25x
78.0 Azerbaijani
9.0 Iran_Central_East
8.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
2.0 Turkmen_Iran
1.6 Chuvash
0.8 Pulliyar
0.4 Mordovians
0.2 Saudis
Some Turkish result:
Gedrosian: 18.02
Siberian: 3.48
Northwest_African: 0.38
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 11.94
North_European: 7.68
South_Asian 2.84
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.76
East_Asian: 3.28
Caucasian: 40.63
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Turkish_Unknown
3.39421567 Turk_Central_East
3.66133855 Turk_Southeast
3.82819801 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.97930718 Azerbaijani
5.56950626 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
5.69057115 Turk_South
5.97412755 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.17830074 Turk_East
6.21290592 Turk_Central_West
6.23335383 Turk_Anatolia
8.07978960 Zaza
8.18978632 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.64948553 Turkmen_Iraq
8.81527651 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.50600337 Turk_Southwest
9.97299855 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.22410387 Kurd_Sorani
11.02419158 Armenian_East
11.14718350 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.78685285 Yoruk
12.06809016 Armenian_West
12.20362651 Turk_Northwest
12.47257391 Kurd_KAZ
12.77748019 Lur_Iran
12.95282595 Kurds
Target: Turkish_Unknown
Distance: 1.1806% / 1.18059818 | ADC: 0.25x
45.0 Turk_Central_East
43.2 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.0 Armenian_West
1.8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
1.0 Greek_Cappadocia
1.0 Sardinian
Those Iranians have a significant NE input!
Dr_Maul
06-24-2020, 01:29 AM
Iraqi Arab from Baghdad
R1A-Z93
J1
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 12.6% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.79
2 88.5% Lebanese (Behar) + 11.5% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.8
3 86.8% Lebanese (Behar) + 13.2% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.9
4 87.5% Lebanese (Behar) + 12.5% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 3.97
5 62.9% Jordanians (Behar) + 37.1% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.09
6 55.4% Palestinian (HGDP) + 44.6% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.33
7 86.7% Lebanese (Behar) + 13.3% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.55
8 64.2% Jordanians (Behar) + 35.8% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.58
9 72.1% Jordanians (Behar) + 27.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.64
10 86.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 13.9% Pathan (HGDP) @ 4.73
11 87.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 12.1% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 4.8
12 62.7% Jordanians (Behar) + 37.3% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.89
13 56.5% Palestinian (HGDP) + 43.5% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.95
14 83.5% Jordanians (Behar) + 16.5% Pathan (HGDP) @ 5.06
15 90% Lebanese (Behar) + 10% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 5.08
16 89.8% Lebanese (Behar) + 10.2% Indian (Dodecad) @ 5.08
17 89.6% Lebanese (Behar) + 10.4% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 5.1
18 84.5% Jordanians (Behar) + 15.5% Burusho (HGDP) @ 5.15
19 54.7% Palestinian (HGDP) + 45.3% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 5.19
20 90.5% Lebanese (Behar) + 9.5% GIH30 (Dodecad) @ 5.23
Azeri Jew
J1-Z18271
H7
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.25
2 Gedrosia 21.68
3 Southwest_Asian 15.58
4 Atlantic_Med 8.71
5 North_European 6.24
6 South_Asian 3.13
7 Siberian 1.37
8 Northwest_African 0.63
9 East_African 0.41
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 4.99
2 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 6.99
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 7.64
4 Iranian (Dodecad) 8.05
5 Turks (Behar) 9.75
6 Iranians (Behar) 10.46
7 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 10.97
8 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 11.14
9 Assyrian (Dodecad) 11.52
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 11.67
11 Turkish (Dodecad) 11.86
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 12.76
13 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 13.14
14 Armenian (Dodecad) 13.78
15 Lebanese (Behar) 14.17
16 Syrians (Behar) 16.43
17 Druze (HGDP) 16.67
18 Armenians (Behar) 17.71
19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 18.43
20 Jordanians (Behar) 18.98
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 28.2% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.31
2 87.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 12.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.32
3 68.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 31.8% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.36
4 92% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 8% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 2.49
5 90.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 9.3% Pathan (HGDP) @ 2.57
6 91.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 8.5% Burusho (HGDP) @ 2.61
7 64.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 35.3% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.67
8 82% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 18% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 2.68
9 93.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 6.8% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 2.78
10 73.7% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 26.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.94
11 93.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 6.3% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 2.97
12 73.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 26.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.98
13 92.9% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 7.1% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 3
14 76.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 23.3% Samaritians (Behar) @ 3.09
15 65.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 34.5% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.11
16 94.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 5.9% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 3.16
17 93.9% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 6.1% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 3.16
18 94% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 6% Indian (Dodecad) @ 3.17
19 94.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 5.7% Iyengar (Dodecad) @ 3.18
20 66.2% Iranians (Behar) + 33.8% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.2
Khuzestan Arab from Iran
J1a1b-P58
J1d
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.42
2 Southwest_Asian 22.88
3 Gedrosia 19.39
4 Atlantic_Med 8.22
5 East_African 3
6 North_European 2.83
7 Sub_Saharan 2.12
8 South_Asian 1.69
9 Siberian 1.27
10 Northwest_African 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 8.67
2 Syrians (Behar) 9.44
3 Lebanese (Behar) 10.22
4 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 10.39
5 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 11.18
6 Jordanians (Behar) 12
7 Kurd (Dodecad) 13.21
8 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 13.27
9 Assyrian (Dodecad) 13.8
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 13.82
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.93
12 Iranians (Behar) 14.23
13 Iranian (Dodecad) 14.53
14 Druze (HGDP) 15.06
15 Palestinian (HGDP) 15.07
16 Turks (Behar) 16.2
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.69
18 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.23
19 Armenian (Dodecad) 18.43
20 Samaritians (Behar) 20.32
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.6% Syrians (Behar) + 39.4% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.43
2 58.9% Syrians (Behar) + 41.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.94
3 61.3% Syrians (Behar) + 38.7% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 2.99
4 51.5% Iranians (Behar) + 48.5% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.35
5 59.3% Syrians (Behar) + 40.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 3.45
6 51% Iranian (Dodecad) + 49% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.53
7 54.6% Jordanians (Behar) + 45.4% Iranians (Behar) @ 3.61
8 53.5% Kurd (Dodecad) + 46.5% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.62
9 63.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 36.2% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.64
10 55.2% Jordanians (Behar) + 44.8% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.69
11 66.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 33.9% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.84
12 53.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 46.6% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.86
13 52.7% Jordanians (Behar) + 47.3% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 3.86
14 52.8% Jordanians (Behar) + 47.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 3.97
15 66.2% Kurd (Dodecad) + 33.8% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.98
16 64.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 35.3% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4
17 75.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 24.9% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4.02
18 65.1% Kurd (Dodecad) + 34.9% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4.61
19 71.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 28.3% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 4.89
20 59.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 40.1% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.98
Khuzestan Arab from Iran
J1a1b-P58
J1d
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.42
2 Southwest_Asian 22.88
3 Gedrosia 19.39
4 Atlantic_Med 8.22
5 East_African 3
6 North_European 2.83
7 Sub_Saharan 2.12
8 South_Asian 1.69
9 Siberian 1.27
10 Northwest_African 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 8.67
2 Syrians (Behar) 9.44
3 Lebanese (Behar) 10.22
4 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 10.39
5 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 11.18
6 Jordanians (Behar) 12
7 Kurd (Dodecad) 13.21
8 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 13.27
9 Assyrian (Dodecad) 13.8
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 13.82
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.93
12 Iranians (Behar) 14.23
13 Iranian (Dodecad) 14.53
14 Druze (HGDP) 15.06
15 Palestinian (HGDP) 15.07
16 Turks (Behar) 16.2
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.69
18 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.23
19 Armenian (Dodecad) 18.43
20 Samaritians (Behar) 20.32
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.6% Syrians (Behar) + 39.4% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.43
2 58.9% Syrians (Behar) + 41.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.94
3 61.3% Syrians (Behar) + 38.7% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 2.99
4 51.5% Iranians (Behar) + 48.5% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.35
5 59.3% Syrians (Behar) + 40.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 3.45
6 51% Iranian (Dodecad) + 49% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.53
7 54.6% Jordanians (Behar) + 45.4% Iranians (Behar) @ 3.61
8 53.5% Kurd (Dodecad) + 46.5% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.62
9 63.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 36.2% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.64
10 55.2% Jordanians (Behar) + 44.8% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.69
11 66.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 33.9% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.84
12 53.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 46.6% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 3.86
13 52.7% Jordanians (Behar) + 47.3% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 3.86
14 52.8% Jordanians (Behar) + 47.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 3.97
15 66.2% Kurd (Dodecad) + 33.8% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 3.98
16 64.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 35.3% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4
17 75.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 24.9% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4.02
18 65.1% Kurd (Dodecad) + 34.9% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4.61
19 71.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 28.3% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 4.89
20 59.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 40.1% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.98
significantly different from regular Iranians
FinalFlash
06-24-2020, 06:06 AM
Those Iranians have a significant NE input!
They have way more steppe admixture than that.
They have way more steppe admixture than that.
I didn't say Steppe. Steppe is around half North Euro only, so they maybe close to 20% Steppe if they're 10% NE.
Turk from Aksaray (CentralWest Anatolia)
Gedrosian: 12.68
Siberian: 2.78
Northwest_African: 1.21
Southeast_Asian: 0.55
Atlantic_Med: 13.27
North_European: 10.85
South_Asian 0.00
East_African 0.55
Southwest_Asian: 14.84
East_Asian: 3.47
Caucasian: 39.82
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Aksaray
4.93901812 Turk_Central_West
5.12165989 Turk_Central_East
5.72169555 Turk_Anatolia
6.28337489 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.46387655 Turk_South
6.77950588 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.07477915 Turk_Southeast
8.08703901 Turk_Southwest
9.82771082 Turk_East
9.98004008 Turk_Northwest
10.04748725 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.16127945 Azerbaijani
11.18818573 Nusayri_Turkey
11.57849731 Greek_Cappadocia
11.65472007 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.21020065 Greek_Crete
12.25633714 Yoruk
12.51457151 Turkmen_Iraq
13.01177159 Lebanese
13.02096387 Armenian_East
13.56963154 Zaza
13.63117383 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.92365613 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.92426300 Armenian_West
14.15854512 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
Target: Aksaray
Distance: 1.5221% / 1.52208070 | ADC: 0.25x
40.8 Turk_Central_West
26.6 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.8 Lebanese
8.0 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
6.6 Georgia_Jews
6.2 Samaritians
Target: Aksaray
Distance: 2.6899% / 2.68994532 | ADC: 0.5x
77.2 Turk_Central_West
16.2 Lebanese
4.6 Greek_Cappadocia
1.0 Cypriots
0.8 Greek_Crete
0.2 Turk_West_BlackSea
Punjabi Jatt
Population
Gedrosia 39.93 Pct
Siberian 1.92 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 2.08 Pct
North_European 13.59 Pct
South_Asian 29.92 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.49 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 9.07 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Target: Punjabi
Distance: 2.5256% / 2.52560184 | ADC: 0.5x
66.0 Jatt
20.6 Kho
12.4 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
1.0 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
Target: Punjabi
Distance: 1.2147% / 1.21471291 | ADC: 0.25x
46.0 Jatt
20.0 Kho
13.4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
10.6 Pathan
7.8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
1.6 Saudis
0.6 Cochin_Jews
He has a ton of Steppe ancestry.
Bender1999
06-25-2020, 10:20 AM
Turk from Aksaray (CentralWest Anatolia)
Gedrosian: 12.68
Siberian: 2.78
Northwest_African: 1.21
Southeast_Asian: 0.55
Atlantic_Med: 13.27
North_European: 10.85
South_Asian 0.00
East_African 0.55
Southwest_Asian: 14.84
East_Asian: 3.47
Caucasian: 39.82
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Aksaray
4.93901812 Turk_Central_West
5.12165989 Turk_Central_East
5.72169555 Turk_Anatolia
6.28337489 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.46387655 Turk_South
6.77950588 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.07477915 Turk_Southeast
8.08703901 Turk_Southwest
9.82771082 Turk_East
9.98004008 Turk_Northwest
10.04748725 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.16127945 Azerbaijani
11.18818573 Nusayri_Turkey
11.57849731 Greek_Cappadocia
11.65472007 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.21020065 Greek_Crete
12.25633714 Yoruk
12.51457151 Turkmen_Iraq
13.01177159 Lebanese
13.02096387 Armenian_East
13.56963154 Zaza
13.63117383 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.92365613 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.92426300 Armenian_West
14.15854512 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
Target: Aksaray
Distance: 1.5221% / 1.52208070 | ADC: 0.25x
40.8 Turk_Central_West
26.6 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.8 Lebanese
8.0 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
6.6 Georgia_Jews
6.2 Samaritians
Target: Aksaray
Distance: 2.6899% / 2.68994532 | ADC: 0.5x
77.2 Turk_Central_West
16.2 Lebanese
4.6 Greek_Cappadocia
1.0 Cypriots
0.8 Greek_Crete
0.2 Turk_West_BlackSea
Do you know from where exactly from Aksaray or do you know that he is just from Aksaray.
Do you know from where exactly from Aksaray or do you know that he is just from Aksaray.
A town in the east of Aksaray. What are the demographics of the region? Are there differences?
Bender1999
06-25-2020, 11:34 AM
A town in the east of Aksaray. What are the demographics of the region? Are there differences?
Yes there are also Kurds in Aksaray who came in last century there. If you would know from where i could say what he is. He could be nonmixed Turk or mixed. Aksaray were in last centuries famous for turkmen camel dealer. Central anatolia(Ankara, Cankiri, Kirsehir, Kirikkale, YozgatKonya, Aksaray, Nevsehir, Corum) are predominantly turkish, with some kurdish villages mostly founded in the end of 19th century after last turkish riots and at the beginning of 20th century after first kurdish riots of the republican era. Yozgat and Corum have many alevis, rest predominantly sunni with alevi minorities. Northern Centralanatolia has Circissian settlements, eastern had some armenian until 20th century, southern parts(Nevsehir/Nigde/Kayseri) also had greek orthodox population(Greek and Karamanli). Kirikkale, Kirsehir, Yozgat was known as Bozok livasi, Ankara has many famius turkmen tribes, the konya/ankara kurd which got tested had the most north european admix i ve ever seen at kurds btw, they were settled there after massacring ten thousands of Alevi turkmens in 15/16th century.
Yes there are also Kurds in Aksaray who came in last century there. If you would know from where i could say what he is. He could be nonmixed Turk or mixed. Aksaray were in last centuries famous for turkmen camel dealer. Central anatolia(Ankara, Cankiri, Kirsehir, Kirikkale, YozgatKonya, Aksaray, Nevsehir, Corum) are predominantly turkish, with some kurdish villages mostly founded in the end of 19th century after last turkish riots and at the beginning of 20th century after first kurdish riots of the republican era. Yozgat and Corum have many alevis, rest predominantly sunni with alevi minorities. Northern Centralanatolia has Circissian settlements, eastern had some armenian until 20th century, southern parts(Nevsehir/Nigde/Kayseri) also had greek orthodox population(Greek and Karamanli). Kirikkale, Kirsehir, Yozgat was known as Bozok livasi, Ankara has many famius turkmen tribes, the konya/ankara kurd which got tested had the most north european admix i ve ever seen at kurds btw, they were settled there after massacring ten thousands of Alevi turkmens in 15/16th century.
If mixed it's not with Kurds. As you can see very low Gedrosian (lower than the regional average and no South_Asian which is atypical for Turkish results let alone Kurdish).
As you can see it receives a Levantine signal.
Is this map accurate for kurdish villages in this region?
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/da/map/kurds-of-aksaray_92676#10/38.4971/34.1702
Bender1999
06-25-2020, 12:07 PM
If mixed it's not with Kurds. As you can see very low Gedrosian (lower than the regional average and no South_Asian which is atypical for Turkish results let alone Kurdish).
As you can see it receives a Levantine signal.
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Then he isnt mixed, i never heard something about levantine/arab people outside of Adana/Hatay/Urfa/Mardin. probably preturkic anatolian origin.
Bender1999
06-25-2020, 12:15 PM
If mixed it's not with Kurds. As you can see very low Gedrosian (lower than the regional average and no South_Asian which is atypical for Turkish results let alone Kurdish).
As you can see it receives a Levantine signal.
Is this map accurate for kurdish villages in this region?
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/da/map/kurds-of-aksaray_92676#10/38.4971/34.1702
Yes, i dont really know which villages but that is credible, but idk how many villages.
Turk from Hatay province:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Hatay_in_Turkey.svg
Gedrosian: 19.27
Siberian: 4.57
Northwest_African: 0.90
Southeast_Asian: 1.51
Atlantic_Med: 12.21
North_European: 7.08
South_Asian 3.18
East_African 0.85
Southwest_Asian: 11.19
East_Asian: 1.81
Caucasian: 34.94
SSA: 2.49
Distance to: Turk_Hatay
5.87452977 Turk_Southeast
6.63128947 Azerbaijani
7.20497745 Turk_South
7.29250300 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.35557612 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.79943588 Turk_Central_East
7.94504877 Turk_Anatolia
7.97653434 Turk_Central_West
8.80814964 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.34481675 Turk_Southwest
9.38961661 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.44095864 Turkmen_Iraq
9.92224773 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.58942869 Kurd_Sorani
10.66714114 Zaza
10.80647954 Yoruk
11.38402389 Turk_Northwest
11.90135707 Turk_East
11.97561689 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.15962170 Iranian_Fars
12.34080224 Iran_Khorasan
12.89711208 Lur_Iran
13.15677772 Iran_Central_East
13.50063702 Iranian
13.79837672 Kurd
Target: Turk_Hatay
Distance: 1.9881% / 1.98811730 | ADC: 0.25x
53.8 Turk_Southeast
27.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.2 Iran_Bandari
4.2 Sardinian
3.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
1.6 ASW30
1.4 Nganassan
0.6 Balkan_Gypsy
0.6 Cambodians
Bender1999
06-25-2020, 10:03 PM
Turk from Hatay province:
Gedrosian: 19.27
Siberian: 4.57
Northwest_African: 0.90
Southeast_Asian: 1.51
Atlantic_Med: 12.21
North_European: 7.08
South_Asian 3.18
East_African 0.85
Southwest_Asian: 11.19
East_Asian: 1.81
Caucasian: 34.94
SSA: 2.49
Nothing atypical at Near Easter admix but high SSA, even the person from Aksaray was more "near eastern".
From a turkish (Azeri) tribe of Semnan province in Iran:
also has Persian ancestors
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/IranSemnan-SVG.svg/250px-IranSemnan-SVG.svg.png
Gedrosian: 24.98
Siberian: 2.72
Northwest_African: 1.04
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.00
North_European: 8.41
South_Asian 5.53
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.53
East_Asian: 3.64
Caucasian: 35.29
SSA: 0.19
Distance to: Azeri_Semnan
5.49599854 Iran_Khorasan
5.52224592 Iranian_Fars
5.75630958 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.88673084 Iran_Central_East
6.57335531 Azerbaijani
7.07636206 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.25837447 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.30813246 Kurd_Sorani
7.48053474 Iranian
7.80443464 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.86429272 Lur_Iran
8.63764435 Zaza
8.70760587 Kurd
8.79865899 Iranians
8.85124285 Turkmen_Iraq
9.63786802 Turk_Southeast
9.66665402 Iran_Mazandaran
9.75908807 Kurd_KAZ
10.03406199 Kurds
11.09032010 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.14881608 Turkmens
11.44887767 Turkmen_Iran
12.25039183 Turk_South
12.74998824 Turk_Central_East
13.63092440 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
Target: Azeri_Semnan
Distance: 1.3126% / 1.31258884 | ADC: 0.25x
38.8 Iran_Khorasan
35.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.0 Iran_Central_East
9.0 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.2 Iranian_Fars
0.2 JPT30
Eastern European Gypsy
Population
Gedrosia 13.73 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.04 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.89 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.39 Pct
North_European 18.04 Pct
South_Asian 22.02 Pct
East_African 0.40 Pct
Southwest_Asian 7.50 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 22.98 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Seryozha
5.46948809 Balkan_Gypsy
21.98391457 AFG_Tajik
24.15246364 Tajik_Balanovsky2019
24.37511846 Parsi_India
24.55880494 Turkmen_Iran
24.63412471 AFG_Pashtun
24.84094000 Iran_Khorasan
25.04472400 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
25.19071059 Yagnobi
25.39487941 Turk_Northwest
Target: Seryozha
Distance: 2.5332% / 2.53323219 | ADC: 0.25x
86.4 Balkan_Gypsy
8.4 Mordovian
2.8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
2.0 Kharia
0.4 Yemen_Jews
Two Azerbaijanis from Baku Province (+Shamakhi), they are relatives of each other
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Baku_in_Azerbaijan_%28semi-secession%29.svg/250px-Baku_in_Azerbaijan_%28semi-secession%29.svg.png
Shows a bit the randomness of Siberian and East Asian component
#1
Gedrosian: 23.68
Siberian: 2.45
Northwest_African: 1.41
Southeast_Asian: 0.73
Atlantic_Med: 6.26
North_European: 7.94
South_Asian 0.59
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 13.26
East_Asian: 4.20
Caucasian: 39.47
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Baku1
3.74734573 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.06501728 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.06970413 Azerbaijani
5.41648410 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.50847529 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.51401850 Zaza
6.19041194 Turkmen_Iraq
6.44634005 Kurd_Sorani
6.60996974 Kurd
6.96944044 Kurd_KAZ
7.21011096 Kurds
7.53191211 Iranian
7.72314703 Turk_Southeast
7.77380216 Lur_Iran
9.14291529 Iranian_Fars
10.04040836 Turk_East
10.32723099 Iranians
10.37391440 Turk_Central_East
10.51597356 Uzbekistan_Jews
10.79456345 Turk_South
10.94979908 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.46975588 Iran_Central_East
11.48284808 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.50801025 Iran_Khorasan
11.71442273 Iran_Mazandaran
Target: Azerbaijani_Baku1
Distance: 1.7472% / 1.74718458 | ADC: 0.25x
52.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
37.8 Kurd
6.0 Kumyks
1.2 JPT30
1.2 Yemen_Jews
0.6 Iranian_Jews
0.2 Daur
0.2 Japanese
#2
Gedrosian: 23.68
Siberian: 4.22
Northwest_African: 0.10
Southeast_Asian: 0.33
Atlantic_Med: 6.37
North_European: 8.73
South_Asian 1.31
East_African 0.63
Southwest_Asian: 11.97
East_Asian: 2.47
Caucasian: 40.19
SSA: 0.17
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Baku2
3.73385859 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.86425739 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.91743836 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.02081667 Azerbaijani
5.15580256 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.35538047 Zaza
6.89592633 Kurd_KAZ
6.96175265 Iranian
7.00671107 Kurd
7.20376291 Kurd_Sorani
7.27543813 Kurds
7.58500494 Turkmen_Iraq
7.88599391 Turk_Southeast
8.12892982 Lur_Iran
9.35240076 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.50529852 Turk_East
9.61553951 Iranian_Fars
10.09778193 Turk_Central_East
10.55531620 Turk_South
10.69027596 Iranians
11.03539759 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.05009050 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.13009434 Iran_Central_East
11.24448309 Iran_Mazandaran
11.25765517 Iran_Khorasan
Target: Azerbaijani_Baku2
Distance: 1.2129% / 1.21294299 | ADC: 0.25x
52.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
26.4 Kurds
10.6 Kumyks
8.4 Kurd
1.4 Evenk
0.4 Nganassan
Cool. I think that region is called Abşeron. Their South Asian is pretty low, especially the former person's (basically noise).
Göktürk (high coverage sample)
Z845678
Gedrosia 7.40 Pct
Siberian 10.42 Pct
Northwest_African 0.38 Pct
Southeast_Asian 2.92 Pct
Atlantic_Med 13.61 Pct
North_European 27.66 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 26.71 Pct
Caucasus 10.40 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.50 Pct
Target: Göktürk
Distance: 3.5887% / 3.58865326 | ADC: 0.25x
55.4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
12.2 Norwegian
12.0 Bashkir
11.6 Korean
4.6 Tatar_Kazan
4.2 Japanese
He is only 40% Mongoloid.
Half Balkan Turk (Greece), half East Black Sea (Ardahan)
Population
Gedrosia 10.53 Pct
Siberian 0.28 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.77 Pct
Atlantic_Med 17.62 Pct
North_European 16.78 Pct
South_Asian 2.46 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.12 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 43.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Target: Greece-Ardahan
Distance: 1.9586% / 1.95858089 | ADC: 0.25x
39.0 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
18.8 Greek_Cappadocia
18.0 Greek
14.6 Adygei
7.2 Georgian_Gurian
1.4 Balkan_Gypsy
0.8 Dhurwa
0.2 Pulliyar
Dr_Maul
07-02-2020, 03:36 PM
Half Balkan Turk (Greece), half East Black Sea (Ardahan)
Population
Gedrosia 10.53 Pct
Siberian 0.28 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.77 Pct
Atlantic_Med 17.62 Pct
North_European 16.78 Pct
South_Asian 2.46 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.12 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 43.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Target: Greece-Ardahan
Distance: 1.9586% / 1.95858089 | ADC: 0.25x
39.0 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
18.8 Greek_Cappadocia
18.0 Greek
14.6 Adygei
7.2 Georgian_Gurian
1.4 Balkan_Gypsy
0.8 Dhurwa
0.2 Pulliyar
I usually score more mongoloid than this person, thats wack
Bender1999
07-02-2020, 03:43 PM
I usually score more mongoloid than this person, thats wack
Ardahan has also non Turkish communities, the balkan turk side would show 2-3% east asian, that is normal for a heavily intermixed one. Maybe he is not even an ethnically Turk, idk.
Ardahan has also non Turkish communities, the balkan turk side would show 2-3% east asian, that is normal for a heavily intermixed one. Maybe he is not even an ethnically Turk, idk.
Please get out of this thread (and preferably this forum), you shady sock puppet.
I usually score more mongoloid than this person, thats wack
Kaspias explained his background in the 23andme from Reddit thread. It's no surprise.
Bender1999
07-02-2020, 03:48 PM
Please get out of this thread (and preferably this forum), you shady sock puppet.
I did not say anything bad, if you dont like my comments ignore it.
Dr_Maul
07-02-2020, 03:49 PM
Kaspias explained his background in the 23andme from Reddit thread. It's no surprise.
I know from his Black Sea part he would have very little or none, but I assumed Balkan Turks would have a decent amount, but like you said there is an explanation
Ardahan has also non Turkish communities, the balkan turk side would show 2-3% east asian, that is normal for a heavily intermixed one. Maybe he is not even an ethnically Turk, idk.
Afshar Turkmen from Kirsehir (thought you might be interested)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/K%C4%B1r%C5%9Fehir_in_Turkey.svg
Gedrosian: 17.36
Siberian: 5.16
Northwest_African: 1.57
Southeast_Asian: 1.68
Atlantic_Med: 12.38
North_European: 9.61
South_Asian 2.45
East_African 0.26
Southwest_Asian: 12.05
East_Asian: 3.35
Caucasian: 34.13
SSA: 0.75
Distance to: Turk_kirsehir
4.75650081 Turk_South
5.30797513 Turk_Anatolia
5.33397600 Turk_Central_West
5.49085604 Turk_Southeast
5.92325924 Turk_Southwest
6.67808356 Turk_Central_East
6.88944120 Turk_West_BlackSea
7.13635761 Azerbaijani
7.16988842 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.81287399 Turk_Northwest
7.96488544 Yoruk
8.08009901 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.54712232 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.88804390 Turkmen_Iraq
11.27197853 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.45101602 Kurd_Sorani
12.46980754 Zaza
12.72876663 Turk_East
13.47755171 Iran_Khorasan
13.91181512 Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.20567492 Turkmen_Iran
14.20784994 Iranian_Fars
14.62785357 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
14.89842274 Iran_Central_East
15.00325298 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: Turk_kirsehir
Distance: 1.3874% / 1.38735523 | ADC: 0.25x
54.0 Turk_Southeast
35.4 Turk_Southwest
4.0 Turk_Northwest
2.6 Brahui
1.0 Cambodians
1.0 Canarias
0.6 Balkan_Gypsy
0.6 Moroccan
0.6 Nganassan
0.2 Parsi_India
Target: Turk_kirsehir
Distance: 2.7515% / 2.75146803 | ADC: 0.5x
48.0 Turk_Southeast
47.6 Turk_Southwest
2.2 Turkmen_Iran
1.2 Brahui
0.8 Parsi_India
0.2 Cambodians
Bender1999
07-04-2020, 08:24 AM
Afshar Turkmen from Kirsehir (thought you might be interested)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/K%C4%B1r%C5%9Fehir_in_Turkey.svg
Gedrosian: 17.36
Siberian: 5.16
Northwest_African: 1.57
Southeast_Asian: 1.68
Atlantic_Med: 12.38
North_European: 9.61
South_Asian 2.45
East_African 0.26
Southwest_Asian: 12.05
East_Asian: 3.35
Caucasian: 34.13
SSA: 0.75
Distance to: Turk_kirsehir
4.75650081 Turk_South
5.30797513 Turk_Anatolia
5.33397600 Turk_Central_West
5.49085604 Turk_Southeast
5.92325924 Turk_Southwest
6.67808356 Turk_Central_East
6.88944120 Turk_West_BlackSea
7.13635761 Azerbaijani
7.16988842 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.81287399 Turk_Northwest
7.96488544 Yoruk
8.08009901 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.54712232 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.88804390 Turkmen_Iraq
11.27197853 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.45101602 Kurd_Sorani
12.46980754 Zaza
12.72876663 Turk_East
13.47755171 Iran_Khorasan
13.91181512 Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.20567492 Turkmen_Iran
14.20784994 Iranian_Fars
14.62785357 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
14.89842274 Iran_Central_East
15.00325298 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: Turk_kirsehir
Distance: 1.3874% / 1.38735523 | ADC: 0.25x
54.0 Turk_Southeast
35.4 Turk_Southwest
4.0 Turk_Northwest
2.6 Brahui
1.0 Cambodians
1.0 Canarias
0.6 Balkan_Gypsy
0.6 Moroccan
0.6 Nganassan
0.2 Parsi_India
Target: Turk_kirsehir
Distance: 2.7515% / 2.75146803 | ADC: 0.5x
48.0 Turk_Southeast
47.6 Turk_Southwest
2.2 Turkmen_Iran
1.2 Brahui
0.8 Parsi_India
0.2 Cambodians
Nice results, thanks for sharing!
Chechen
Gedrosia 23.50 Pct
Siberian 2.07 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.93 Pct
North_European 19.96 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.44 Pct
Southwest_Asian 3.74 Pct
East_Asian 1.46 Pct
Caucasus 41.87 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Maga
3.56495442 Chechen
3.76875311 Ingush
5.86420498 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
6.39300399 Qumuq
6.83639525 Lezgin
7.20222882 Balkar
7.55335025 Kumyks
7.58877460 Karachay
7.81190118 Avar_Dagestan
8.42438722 Circassian
Target: Maga
Distance: 1.1059% / 1.10593900 | ADC: 0.25x
48.8 Ingush
29.0 Chechen
20.4 Lezgin
1.8 French_Basque
Afshar Turkmen from Kirsehir (thought you might be interested)
Do you think he might be 25-30% Oghuz?
Do you think he might be 25-30% Oghuz?
Could be
Nice results, thanks for sharing!
Btw what's the reason for the Iranian shift of this region? There are cities to the east who show much less Iranian shift (Kayseri, Nigde, Tokat etc..) and they also have lower East Eurasian than Kirsehir.
Cities to the west have similar East Eurasian but less Iranian character.
Here are Dodecad k12b results of 467 Turks (except them, there are other groups too)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pj2rBe3L-Jf89JFACjTC1hSRfI7EOps-zed1x0FFpbY/edit#gid=0
There has been added new samples and shockingly there are even 3 samples which are 20% Mongoloid! :shocked:
Bender1999
07-05-2020, 12:55 PM
Could be
Btw what's the reason for the Iranian shift of this region? There are cities to the east who show much less Iranian shift (Kayseri, Nigde, Tokat etc..) and they also have lower East Eurasian than Kirsehir.
Cities to the west have similar East Eurasian but less Iranian character.
Yes i also noticed that for example Kirsehir has a bit more Gedrosia than a Turk with the same east asian admix, but about the cities Nigde and Tokat i have not many knowledge. Tokat had also some oghuz settlemets and there lived an Armenian community, also it has a numerous Muhacir(especially Circissian) community. Sora comes from there maybe she can say a bit more. Whether Nigde had oghuz settlements or not, that is a difficult question, i know more about Aksaray-Kirikkale-Ankara-Kirsehir-Yozgat area. Kayseri was always a place with heterogeneous population, you know there are many Afshars, but due history there were many others. Kirsehir(and the other cities of the neighborhood) for example, although there are traces of other civilizations, were at the arrival of the first Turks not or really sparsely populated.
Yes i also noticed that for example Kirsehir has a bit more Gedrosia than a Turk with the same east asian admix, but about the cities Nigde and Tokat i have not many knowledge. Tokat had also some oghuz settlemets and there lived a Armenian community, also it has a numerous Muhacir(especially Circissian) community. Sora comes from there maybe she can say a bit more. Whether Nigde had oghuz settlements or not, that is a difficult question, i know more about Aksaray-Kirikkale-Ankara-Kirsehir-Yozgat area. Kayseri was always a place with heterogeneous population, you know there are many Afshars, but due history there were many others. Kirsehir(and the other cities of the neighborhood) for example, although there are traces of other civilizations, were at the arrival of the first Turks not or really sparsely populated.
Indeed Tokat samples have a bit more Gedrosian & South Asian than Western Anatolian cities. Also Mongoloid admixture in Tokat samples can vary from 4%-12%, the 4% Mongoloid Tokat sample may be mixed because Tokat has some Erzurum community and people from Erzurum have 0%-3% Mongoloid. Except that sample, Tokat samples can vary from 7%-12%.
There are also Circassian(other Caucasians as well) & Kurdish/Zaza populations in Tokat. Main guesstimate is that Tokat is 85% Turkish, 15% Caucasian(Circassian, Abkhaz etc.) and 5% Kurdish & Zaza.
I've also posted this at my previous entry:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...pbY/edit#gid=0
Indeed Tokat samples have a bit more Gedrosian & South Asian than Western Anatolian cities. Also Mongoloid admixture in Tokat samples can vary from 4%-12%, the 4% Mongoloid Tokat sample may be mixed because Tokat has some Erzurum community and people from Erzurum have 0%-3% Mongoloid. Except that sample, Tokat samples can vary from 7%-12%.
There are also Circassian(other Caucasians as well) & Kurdish/Zaza populations in Tokat. Main guesstimate is that Tokat is 85% Turkish, 15% Caucasian(Circassian, Abkhaz etc.) and 5% Kurdish & Zaza.
I've also posted this at my previous entry:
My question was about Kirsehir/Kirikkale. Scoring around 18% Gedrosian and +2 South Asian seems pretty common there. Which is approaching Azerbaijani levels.
Tokat looks a bit more Black SeaA/Armenian influenced instead of Iranian.
Bender1999
07-05-2020, 02:13 PM
My question was about Kirsehir/Kirikkale. Scoring around 18% Gedrosian and +2 South Asian seems pretty common there. Which is approaching Azerbaijani levels.
Tokat looks a bit more Black SeaA/Armenian influenced instead of Iranian.
Most probably because some Turks who arrived there came from Azerbaijan or Chorasan, this is the only explanation for me.
My question was about Kirsehir/Kirikkale. Scoring around 18% Gedrosian and +2 South Asian seems pretty common there. Which is approaching Azerbaijani levels.
Tokat looks a bit more Black Sea/Armenian influenced instead of Iranian.
Yes, Kırşehir & Kırıkkale have more Gedrosian + South Asian than regular Turk. I guess it's due to Iranian ancestry as you said. And the Gedrosian + South Asian ancestry grows up as we go to Eastern provinces such as Sivas, Erzincan, Elazığ, Kahramanmaraş, Malatya etc. Not to mention Kars & Iğdır because those are mainly Azeri so it's normal they score more Gedrosian + South Asian
Also the cause of Iranian ancestry can be told like those:
1) They came from Khorasan or Azerbaijan as Bender1999 said
2) Some Seljuk Sultans or Anatolian "bey"s married to Iranian women (but most Anatolian Seljuk Sultans married to Greek & Georgian women)
3) Some Iranians came to Anatolia alongside with Turks (for example: Rumi) and they mixed with each other
Chris596
07-05-2020, 02:35 PM
Here are Dodecad k12b results of 467 Turks (except them, there are other groups too)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pj2rBe3L-Jf89JFACjTC1hSRfI7EOps-zed1x0FFpbY/edit#gid=0
There has been added new samples and shockingly there are even 3 samples which are 20% Mongoloid! :shocked:
And there are like 20 who are not Mongoloid at all :confused: What's up with those? Are they even ethnic Turks? (I really have no idea this is why I'm asking this).
And there are like 20 who are not Mongoloid at all What's up with those? :confused: Are they even ethnic Turks? (I really have no idea this is why I'm asking this).
They're mainly assimilated or mixed. Especially Eastern Black Sea Turks from Trabzon, Rize, Artvin are indeed assimilated native Caucasians(didn't tell Pontic Greeks because they're Hellenized natives indeed). And Eastern Anatolian Turks are either assimilated Kurds/Iranians/Armenians/Assyrians or mix of those groups with Turks.
But their neighbours Central Black Sea Turks(neighbour of Eastern ones) & Azeris(neighbours of Eastern Anatolians) are mixture of Oghuz & Iranics/Native Anatolians. Especially Central Black Sea Turks from Kürtün(northwestern district of Gümüşhane), Ordu, northern Giresun & western Trabzon have at least 10% Mongoloid due to they're mainly Chepni(an Oghuz clan mainly live in Black Sea, and also my paternal grandfather-RIP- was one of them)
They're mainly assimilated or mixed. Especially Eastern Black Sea Turks from Trabzon, Rize, Artvin are indeed assimilated native Caucasians(didn't tell Pontic Greeks because they're Hellenized natives indeed). And Eastern Anatolian Turks are either assimilated Kurds/Iranians/Armenians/Assyrians or mix of those groups with Turks.
But their neighbours Central Black Sea Turks(neighbour of Eastern ones) & Azeris(neighbours of Eastern Anatolians) are mixture of Oghuz & Iranics/Native Anatolians. Especially Central Black Sea Turks from Kürtün(northwestern district of Gümüşhane), Ordu, northern Giresun & western Trabzon have at least 10% Mongoloid due to they're mainly Chepni(an Oghuz clan mainly live in Black Sea, and also my paternal grandfather-RIP- was one of them)
Do you think you are mostly "assimilated"?
Bender1999
07-05-2020, 02:50 PM
Yes, Kırşehir & Kırıkkale have more Gedrosian + South Asian than regular Turk. I guess it's due to Iranian ancestry as you said. And the Gedrosian + South Asian ancestry grows up as we go to Eastern provinces such as Sivas, Erzincan, Elazığ, Kahramanmaraş, Malatya etc. Not to mention Kars & Iğdır because those are mainly Azeri so it's normal they score more Gedrosian + South Asian
Also the cause of Iranian ancestry can be told like those:
1) They came from Khorasan or Azerbaijan as Bender1999 said
2) Some Seljuk Sultans or Anatolian "bey"s married to Iranian women (but most Anatolian Seljuk Sultans married to Greek & Georgian women)
3) Some Iranians came to Anatolia alongside with Turks (for example: Rumi) and they mixed with each other
Kirsehir was, like konya(you named Rumi) one if the cultural hotspots of Anatolia in 11-15th century. The city was called Gülsehir(city of roses/flowers) , the nomadic and village people call it kır şehri(other say the name comes from Timur) because of the landscape. For a important city you need some officials, which were mostly persian speaking. Also scholars and preachers were sometimes of full or partly persian ancestry(Rumi was for example half Tadjik half noble Turkic ancestry). But how or even whether they left any genetic traces, thats the question.
Yes, Kırşehir & Kırıkkale have more Gedrosian + South Asian than regular Turk. I guess it's due to Iranian ancestry as you said. And the Gedrosian + South Asian ancestry grows up as we go to Eastern provinces such as Sivas, Erzincan, Elazığ, Kahramanmaraş, Malatya etc. Not to mention Kars & Iğdır because those are mainly Azeri so it's normal they score more Gedrosian + South Asian
Also the cause of Iranian ancestry can be told like those:
1) They came from Khorasan or Azerbaijan as Bender1999 said
2) Some Seljuk Sultans or Anatolian "bey"s married to Iranian women (but most Anatolian Seljuk Sultans married to Greek & Georgian women)
3) Some Iranians came to Anatolia alongside with Turks (for example: Rumi) and they mixed with each other
Thanks I was wondering because a lot of Eastern cities don't have more Gedrosian+South Asian than Kirsehir which is on level with Kurdish+Turkish mixed cities like Erzincan.
Despite this the East Eurasian is still relatively high.
For example compare with it's cities to the east (Gedrosian + South_Asian averages)
Kirsehir: 17.00 + 1.69
Kayseri: 14.83 + 1.31
Nigde: 13.63 + 1.40
Kahranmaras: 16.71 + 1.49
Erzincan: 17.05 + 1.44
Sivas: 16.74 + 1.49
Obviously cities with big Kurdish populations have similar and higher numbers but they also have less East Eurasian
Do you think you are mostly "assimilated"?
No, but predominantly(at least 70%) Anatolian due to where I'm from. Unfortunately I have to save too much money and wait a year more for taking dna test. I really wonder my results, and I'll share with you first if I take dna test. But I can guesstimate more and less; I may come out as 50%-60% West Asian(Caucasian + Gedrosian) + 15%-25% European(including Med) + 8%-12% Mongoloid, because I've seen some Tokat results and they've came out so.
As ancestry; I'll probably come out as 70%-75% Anatolian & 25%-30% Central Asian as most Tokat Turks are*
*I took Gokturk samples as example
Thanks I was wondering because a lot of Eastern cities don't have more Gedrosian+South Asian than Kirsehir which is on level with Kurdish+Turkish mixed cities like Erzincan.
Despite this the East Eurasian is still relatively high.
For example compare with it's cities to the east (Gedrosian + South_Asian averages)
Kirsehir: 17.00 + 1.69
Kayseri: 14.83 + 1.31
Nigde: 13.63 + 1.40
Kahranmaras: 16.71 + 1.49
Erzincan: 17.05 + 1.44
Sivas: 16.74 + 1.49
Obviously cities with big Kurdish populations have similar and higher numbers but they also have less East Eurasian
Turkmen_Uzbekistan
19.54
13.24
0.18
2.04
6.54
12.86
5.08
0.05
6.49
13.96
19.93
0.07
19.54% Ged + 5.08% SA
Not sure if it's a predominantly Oghuz sample. Only 29% Mongoloid.
Turkmen_Uzbekistan
19.54
13.24
0.18
2.04
6.54
12.86
5.08
0.05
6.49
13.96
19.93
0.07
19.54% Ged + 5.08% SA
Not sure if it's a predominantly Oghuz sample. Only 29% Mongoloid.
I know that Turkmens score a lot of those components but I just asked the question because both regions to the west and east of Kirsehir have less, that's why I was wondering.
Bender1999
07-05-2020, 03:14 PM
Thanks I was wondering because a lot of Eastern cities don't have more Gedrosian+South Asian than Kirsehir which is on level with Kurdish+Turkish mixed cities like Erzincan.
Despite this the East Eurasian is still relatively high.
For example compare with it's cities to the east (Gedrosian + South_Asian averages)
Kirsehir: 17.00 + 1.69
Kayseri: 14.83 + 1.31
Nigde: 13.63 + 1.40
Kahranmaras: 16.71 + 1.49
Erzincan: 17.05 + 1.44
Sivas: 16.74 + 1.49
Obviously cities with big Kurdish populations have similar and higher numbers but they also have less East Eurasian
I dont think the South Asian admix is atypical, but the Gedrosia is really high. Could also be just outliners.
I don’t think the South Asian admix is atypical, but the Gedrosia is really high. Could also be just outliners.
Yes but these are averages so we have to go with it.
No, but predominantly(at least 70%) Anatolian due to where I'm from. Unfortunately I have to save too much money and wait a year more for taking dna test. I really wonder my results, and I'll share with you first if I take dna test. But I can guesstimate more and less; I may come out as 50%-60% West Asian(Caucasian + Gedrosian) + 15%-25% European(including Med) + 8%-12% Mongoloid, because I've seen some Tokat results and they've came out so.
As ancestry; I'll probably come out as 70%-75% Anatolian & 25%-30% Central Asian as most Tokat Turks are*
*I took Gokturk samples as example
Well, Dr. Oz is only 6.4% Mongoloid on Dodecad
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.47
2 Gedrosia 14.06
3 North_European 13.35
4 Southwest_Asian 13.02
5 Atlantic_Med 12.12
6 Siberian 3.06
7 East_Asian 2.03
8 South_Asian 1.31
9 Southeast_Asian 1.3
10 Northwest_African 1.2
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?314677-Dr-Oz-Gedmatch-results!
Bender1999
07-05-2020, 03:20 PM
Yes but these are averages so we have to go with it.
And it is also interesting, the most mongoloid one of Kirsehir has the most Gedrosian admix.
East Eurasian in red
Kirsehir: 17.00 + 1.69 (9.96)
Kayseri: 14.83 + 1.31 (7.69)
Nigde: 13.63 + 1.40 (9.29)
Kahranmaras: 16.71 + 1.49 (9.39)
Erzincan: 17.05 + 1.44 (4.37) (Large Kurdish population)
Sivas: 16.74 + 1.49 (7.96)
Kirsehir was, like konya(you named Rumi) one if the cultural hotspots of Anatolia in 11-15th century. The city was called Gülsehir(city of roses/flowers) , the nomadic and village people call it kır şehri(other say the name comes from Timur) because of the landscape. For a important city you need some officials, which were mostly persian speaking. Also scholars and preachers were sometimes of full or partly persian ancestry(Rumi was for example half Tadjik half noble Turkic ancestry). But how or even whether they left any genetic traces, thats the question.
I guess, according to results, they're mainly settled those areas. Because a pure mix of Oghuz + Anatolian wouldn't have that much Gedrosian + South Asian.
Turkmen_Uzbekistan
19.54
13.24
0.18
2.04
6.54
12.86
5.08
0.05
6.49
13.96
19.93
0.07
19.54% Ged + 5.08% SA
Not sure if it's a predominantly Oghuz sample.
Here are individual results of Bulgarian, Greek(Cretan & Cappadocian), Turkish(Anatolian & Balkan), Turkmens(Ashgabat, Uzbekistan & Afghan) & Uzbeks
https://abload.de/img/adsz22eu6.png
Well, Dr. Oz is only 6.4% Mongoloid on Dodecad
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.47
2 Gedrosia 14.06
3 North_European 13.35
4 Southwest_Asian 13.02
5 Atlantic_Med 12.12
6 Siberian 3.06
7 East_Asian 2.03
8 South_Asian 1.31
9 Southeast_Asian 1.3
10 Northwest_African 1.2
I've seen his results before, but he's from Konya(9% Mongoloid on average) & half Circassian(they have 3%-10% Mongoloid and are 5% on average). I'm full Turkish(indeed I have 1/8 Meskhetian & 1/4 Kürtün Chepni ancestry) from Tokat, So I think that I'll have more Mongoloid than him, but still can't know without taking dna test. Oh God! Why I have no money and have to be at least 18 for this? :(
Bender1999
07-05-2020, 03:41 PM
I guess, according to results, they're mainly settled those areas. Because a pure mix of Oghuz + Anatolian wouldn't have that much Gedrosian + South Asian.
Could be. Maybe there are 1/3 Oghuz, 1/3 Anatolian and 1/3 iranic. Also many non iranics have a lot Gedrosia, in ny knowledge Georgians for example?
I guess, according to results, they're mainly settled those areas. Because a pure mix of Oghuz + Anatolian wouldn't have that much Gedrosian + South Asian.
Yörük average:
15.01 + 1.73
Region with lowest Gedrosian I think is the Northwest. Lowest South_Asian is Northeast (except Azeris).
Could be. Maybe there are 1/3 Oghuz, 1/3 Anatolian and 1/3 iranic. Also many non iranics have a lot Gedrosia, in ny knowledge Georgians for example?
Yes, Georgians & other Caucasians have 17% Gedrosian on average.
Yörük average:
15.01 + 1.73
Do you have any Yörük results? If you do, can you post some here?
Do you have any Yörük results? If you do, can you post some here?
Unfortunately no. i don't know where this average is from.
Bender1999
07-05-2020, 04:01 PM
Do you have any Yörük results? If you do, can you post some here?
But i think we have a lot of yörük results here in this forum. But i never observed their Gedrosian admix.
Kivan
07-05-2020, 04:06 PM
I've seen his results before, but he's from Konya(9% Mongoloid on average) & half Circassian(they have 3%-10% Mongoloid and are 5% on average). I'm full Turkish(indeed I have 1/8 Meskhetian & 1/4 Kürtün Chepni ancestry) from Tokat, So I think that I'll have more Mongoloid than him, but still can't know without taking dna test. Oh God! Why I have no money and have to be at least 18 for this? :(
He is not half Circassian.
https://ethnicelebs.com/mehmet-oz
A person who is 50% Northern Caucasian would score noticeably more Northern Europe (NE in Circassians is above 20% on average), Caucasus and possibly more Gedrosia than he does. His results are average to someone from Konya.
Azerbaijani Rep result:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Agstafa_in_Azerbaijan.svg
Gedrosian: 21.81
Siberian: 2.40
Northwest_African: 0.32
Southeast_Asian: 0.47
Atlantic_Med: 8.79
North_European: 10.34
South_Asian 0.46
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.00
East_Asian: 7.64
Caucasian: 36.76
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Azeri
5.28593417 Azerbaijani
6.33109785 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.33999211 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.22661747 Turk_Southeast
8.10024691 Turk_South
8.93190349 Turk_Central_East
9.14691205 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.21135712 Turk_Anatolia
9.49003688 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.60906863 Turk_Central_West
9.97655251 Turkmen_Iraq
10.13038005 Zaza
10.33288440 Yoruk
10.43033557 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.69968691 Turk_Southwest
10.99383009 Iran_Khorasan
11.00070452 Kurd_Sorani
11.12652237 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.31869692 Turk_West_BlackSea
12.05876859 Kurd
12.16960147 Turk_East
12.25512546 Iranian_Fars
12.38635943 Iranian
12.62933490 Kurd_KAZ
12.63344371 Kurds
TTarget: Azeri
Distance: 3.4124% / 3.41237937 | ADC: 0.5x
89.0 Azerbaijani
4.2 Turkmens
3.2 Qumuq
1.8 Yoruk
1.4 JPT30
0.4 Japanese
Target: Azeri
Distance: 2.2899% / 2.28988891 | ADC: 0.25x
77.8 Azerbaijani
6.2 Kurd
5.6 Lezgin
5.6 Qumuq
2.0 Japanese
1.6 JPT30
1.2 Yoruk
He is not half Circassian.
https://ethnicelebs.com/mehmet-oz
A person who is 50% Northern Caucasian would score noticeably more Northern Europe (NE in Circassians is above 20% on average), Caucasus and possibly more Gedrosia than he does. His results are average to someone from Konya.
Sorry, I've interpreted this wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz
Oz was born in 1960 in Cleveland, Ohio, to Suna[12] and Mustafa Öz, who had emigrated from Konya Province, Turkey.[13][12] Mustafa, born in Bozkır, a small town in southern Turkey, earned scholarships that allowed him to emigrate to the United States as a medical resident in 1955. Suna (née Atabay), who comes from a wealthy Istanbul family, is the daughter of a pharmacist with Circassian (Shapsug) descent on her mother's side. Oz has two sisters, Seval Öz and Nazlim Öz
Sorry, I've interpreted this wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz
So presumably 3/4 Anatolian Turkish and 1/4 Circassian
Distance to: Oz
4.50551884 Turk_Central_West
4.87466922 Turk_West_BlackSea
5.00167972 Turk_Anatolia
5.32567367 Turk_Central_East
5.72654346 Turk_South
6.83469824 Turk_Southeast
6.86480153 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.93886158 Turk_Southwest
8.25679114 Turk_Northwest
8.86937427 Azerbaijani
Target: Oz
Distance: 3.0329% / 3.03293045 | ADC: 0.5x
69.8 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.8 Turk_Central_East
10.0 Lebanese
8.4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.0 Turk_Southeast
Target: Oz
Distance: 1.6617% / 1.66168539 | ADC: 0.25x
59.2 Turk_West_BlackSea
14.0 Lebanese
10.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
6.0 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
4.6 Chechen
3.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
1.6 Yemen_Jews
0.6 Mordovian
Egyptian
Gedrosia 2.96 Pct
Siberian 0.27 Pct
Northwest_African 9.94 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.62 Pct
North_European -
South_Asian 1.14 Pct
East_African 13.73 Pct
Southwest_Asian 27.68 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 30.39 Pct
Sub_Saharan 3.27 Pct
Distance to: Khaled
3.73101863 Egyptans
13.38955937 Palestinian
14.24466216 Jordanians
15.47101160 Yemenese
18.39868202 Syrians
18.80261684 Bedouin
19.38278618 Lebanese
23.84009018 Nusayri_Turkey
24.11630361 Samaritians
24.43127095 Morocco_Jews
Target: Khaled
Distance: 2.9187% / 2.91868475 | ADC: 0.5x
94.2 Egyptans
4.4 Sephardic_Jews
1.4 Ethiopian_Jews
Target: Khaled
Distance: 1.6664% / 1.66635215 | ADC: 0.25x
86.6 Egyptans
8.8 Sephardic_Jews
3.4 Somali
0.6 Palestinian
0.6 Pulliyar
Azerbaijani originally from a destroyed exclave in Northeast Armenia:
Gedrosian: 20.91
Siberian: 3.94
Northwest_African: 1.43
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 9.04
North_European: 7.61
South_Asian 0.98
East_African 0.26
Southwest_Asian: 11.09
East_Asian: 5.06
Caucasian: 39.68
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Qazax
2.94353529 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.68124979 Azerbaijani
3.76469122 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.17491063 Turk_Southeast
6.57539352 Turk_Central_East
6.95910195 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.00708927 Turk_South
7.15462787 Zaza
7.24928272 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.91591435 Turkmen_Iraq
7.92842986 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.25328419 Turk_East
8.34387200 Turk_Anatolia
8.76627059 Turk_Central_West
9.12696006 Kurd_Sorani
10.30001942 Kurd
10.34043519 Kurd_KAZ
10.59492331 Iranian
10.74115450 Kurds
10.78052411 Lur_Iran
10.98501707 Turk_Southwest
11.22196952 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.35484918 Yoruk
11.67186360 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.73040494 Uzbekistan_Jews
Target: Azerbaijani_Qazax
Distance: 1.6626% / 1.66259392 | ADC: 0.25x
60.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
18.6 Kurd
16.0 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.6 Yoruk
0.6 Daur
0.4 JPT30
0.2 Japanese
0.2 Mozabite
Turkish from Tokat
Gedrosia: 18.60
Siberian: 3.26
Northwest_African: 0.0
Southeast_Asian: 0.0
Atlantic_Med: 12.69
North_European: 8.73
South_Asian: 2.30
East_African: 0.0
Southwest_Asian: 11.65
East_Asian: 4.80
Caucasus: 36.43
Sub_Saharan: 0.0
Distance to: Turk_Tokat
3.72294238 Turk_Southeast
4.70290336 Turk_South
5.01437932 Azerbaijani
5.10816993 Turk_Central_East
5.16746553 Turk_Central_West
5.23673562 Turk_Anatolia
5.70221010 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.24140209 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.75962277 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.17876034 Turk_Southwest
7.44636824 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.04355019 Yoruk
9.38814678 Turkmen_Iraq
9.46746534 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.62973520 Turk_Northwest
10.25578373 Zaza
10.46202179 Turk_East
11.06645381 Kurd_Sorani
11.83412016 Talysh_Azerbaijan
13.01862512 Iran_Khorasan
13.42866337 Iranian_Fars
13.74118263 Lur_Iran
13.97768937 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.09560215 Kurd
14.11368131 Iranian
Target: Turk_Tokat
Distance: 2.2261% / 2.22608454 | ADC: 0.5x
65.2 Turk_Southeast
16.8 Azerbaijani
10.2 Yoruk
6.4 Turk_Central_West
1.4 French_Basque
Target: Turk_Tokat
Distance: 0.4768% / 0.47681593
43.0 Turk_Southeast
39.2 Azerbaijani
8.6 Yoruk
2.8 Turk_Central_West
2.2 French_Basque
1.4 Turk_Anatolia
1.0 Sardinian
0.6 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
0.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.2 Hazara
0.2 Japanese
0.2 JPT30
0.2 Turkmens
Turk from Bolu(with 21% Mongoloid)
Gedrosia: 10.8
Siberian: 9.45
Northwest_African: 1.1
Southeast_Asian: 0.0
Atlantic_Med: 11.29
North European: 16.16
South_Asian: 1.9
East_African: 0.7
Southwest_Asian: 9.41
East_Asian: 11.18
Caucasus: 28.01
Sub_Saharan: 0.0
Distance to: Turk_Bolu
9.29552581 Yoruk
9.48371235 Turk_Northwest
11.09613446 Turk_Southwest
13.15616585 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
13.31880625 Turk_West_BlackSea
14.25076138 Turk_Anatolia
14.36030989 Turk_South
14.71347342 Turk_Central_West
14.87592686 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
15.72432828 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
15.98199925 Nogais
16.82239579 Turkmen_Iran
16.84594610 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
17.61081486 Turk_Central_East
18.22901808 Turk_Southeast
18.50631784 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
18.89240853 Uzbek
19.41052807 Azerbaijani
19.91009794 Qumuq
20.14616341 Turk_Bulgaria
20.26412100 Azerbaijani_Turkey
20.46380707 Turk_Greece
20.46505558 Turkmens
21.10540452 Azerbaijani_Iran
21.25634964 Karachay
Target: Turk_Bolu
Distance: 2.0522% / 2.05223345 | ADC: 0.25x
44.4 Yoruk
33.8 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
14.8 Turk_Northwest
4.4 Yemen_Jews
2.2 Nogais
0.4 Oroqen
Bender1999
07-20-2020, 11:13 AM
Turk from Bolu(with 21% Mongoloid)
Gedrosia: 10.8
Siberian: 9.45
Northwest_African: 1.1
Southeast_Asian: 0.0
Atlantic_Med: 11.29
North European: 16.16
South_Asian: 1.9
East_African: 0.7
Southwest_Asian: 9.41
East_Asian: 11.18
Caucasus: 28.01
Sub_Saharan: 0.0
Distance to: Turk_Bolu
9.29552581 Yoruk
9.48371235 Turk_Northwest
11.09613446 Turk_Southwest
13.15616585 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
13.31880625 Turk_West_BlackSea
14.25076138 Turk_Anatolia
14.36030989 Turk_South
14.71347342 Turk_Central_West
14.87592686 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
15.72432828 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
15.98199925 Nogais
16.82239579 Turkmen_Iran
16.84594610 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
17.61081486 Turk_Central_East
18.22901808 Turk_Southeast
18.50631784 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
18.89240853 Uzbek
19.41052807 Azerbaijani
19.91009794 Qumuq
20.14616341 Turk_Bulgaria
20.26412100 Azerbaijani_Turkey
20.46380707 Turk_Greece
20.46505558 Turkmens
21.10540452 Azerbaijani_Iran
21.25634964 Karachay
Target: Turk_Bolu
Distance: 2.0522% / 2.05223345 | ADC: 0.25x
44.4 Yoruk
33.8 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
14.8 Turk_Northwest
4.4 Yemen_Jews
2.2 Nogais
0.4 Oroqen
Tatar var mi Boluda?
Tatar var mi Boluda?
Probably. I seriously doubt this is a normal Turkish result. Also low Atlantic_Med for the region.
Could be wrong though.
Another possibility is that these villages are mixed Oghuz+Tatar
Tatar var mi Boluda?
Bilmiyorum ama toplam 4 tane %20 Mongoloid olan sonuç var. İkisi Bolu'dan, diğer ikisi de Mersin ve Muğla'dan
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pj2rBe3L-Jf89JFACjTC1hSRfI7EOps-zed1x0FFpbY/edit#gid=0
Ayrıca Youtuber Porçay'ın babasının köyü de Türkmen-Tatar karışık köymüş ama adam sadece %9 Mongoloid :confused:
Bender1999
07-20-2020, 11:29 AM
Probably. I seriously doubt this is a normal Turkish result. Also low Atlantic_Med for the region.
Could be wrong though.
Exactly. And pretty high Nirth European. Turks have, conparing to others in their neighborhood and beeing nonIE, high NE but Anatolian Turks have rarely over 12-14% NE. Also caucasian is a bit low but idk whether that is normal for that region. I think he is mixed.
Bilmiyorum ama toplam 4 tane %20 Mongoloid olan sonuç var. İkisi Bolu'dan, diğer ikisi de Mersin ve Muğla'dan
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...pbY/edit#gid=0
Ayrıca Youtuber Porçay'ın köyü de Türkmen-Tatar karışık köymüş ama adam sadece %9 Mongoloid
For Mersin and Mugla i understand, also i would understand for Bolu, but the single components are different to other Turks.
For the youtuber i can say maybe this Tatars were Coastal Tatars or Caucasian Turkic. Or, that also could be, these were not Tatars just called Tatars because of the conditions and wher they came. My grandpa told me there are a family in Kirsehir which called Cerkez although they are Tatars. The official and people gave them this name because they were refugees from Russia. These tatars could be maybe Caucasians like Circissians, some score up to 10% mongoloid, some not even 3%.
For Mersin and Mugla i understand, also i would understand for Bolu, but the single components are different to other Turks.
For the youtuber i can say maybe this Tatars were Coastal Tatars or Caucasian Turkic. Or, that also could be, these were not Tatars just called Tatars because of the conditions and wher they came. My grandpa told me there are a family in Kirsehir which called Cerkez although they are Tatars. The official and people gave them this name because they were refugees from Russia. These tatars could be maybe Caucasians like Circissians, some score up to 10% mongoloid, some not even 3%.
There are 3 main groups of Crimean Tatars(I say them because they're majority of Tatars in Turkey); Coast, Mountain, Steppe. Steppe are 28%-35% Mongoloid, Mountain are almost same as Anatolian Turks and Coastal Tatars have little-to-non Mongoloid. This result seems to be Steppe Tatar + Anatolian Turkish mix.
You can look up the averages of Tatars via here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vEZFP7LEci0xk0OiFBCEMESjkJpG78ARtrxwwtbt52c/edit#gid=1797482804
mergen3
07-20-2020, 12:02 PM
Probably. I seriously doubt this is a normal Turkish result. Also low Atlantic_Med for the region.
Could be wrong though.
Another possibility is that these villages are mixed Oghuz+Tataryes, atlantic med is %15 in provinces close to those regions. he or she has at least 50% tatar ancestors.
I think turkish ancestors has %15 atlantic med %12-16 east eurasia %12-14 north european
Tatar ancestors has %6-8 atlantic med %24-28east eurasia %18-22 north european
mergen3
07-20-2020, 12:04 PM
Bilmiyorum ama toplam 4 tane %20 Mongoloid olan sonuç var. İkisi Bolu'dan, diğer ikisi de Mersin ve Muğla'dan
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pj2rBe3L-Jf89JFACjTC1hSRfI7EOps-zed1x0FFpbY/edit#gid=0
Ayrıca Youtuber Porçay'ın babasının köyü de Türkmen-Tatar karışık köymüş ama adam sadece %9 Mongoloid :confused:
Porçayın annesi dogudan bir yerdendi. Bu yuzden daha az dogu avrasya alıyor. Babasi en az %15 doğu avrasya alirdi.
Kaspias
07-20-2020, 12:10 PM
I find this result interesting; such a mix gives slightly less European version of I.
Balkan Turk
1/4 Targovishte
1/4 Varna
1/4 Langaza
1/4 Kırklareli
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.42
2 North_European 24.37
3 Atlantic_Med 19.17
4 Gedrosia 9.38
5 Southwest_Asian 8.6
6 Siberian 5.63
7 East_Asian 3.36
8 South_Asian 1.53
9 Northwest_African 1.2
10 Sub_Saharan 0.29
11 Southeast_Asian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.1
2 Romanians (Behar) 15.07
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.29
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.77
5 Greek (Dodecad) 16.03
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.78
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.93
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.45
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.73
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.03
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.28
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 20.69
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.74
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.4
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.51
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.77
17 Turks (Behar) 24.78
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.07
19 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.12
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 26.18
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.4% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.62
2 64.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 35.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.68
3 61% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 39% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.76
4 62.7% Turks (Behar) + 37.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.94
5 64.8% Romanians (Behar) + 35.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.99
6 66.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 33.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.06
7 62.6% Turks (Behar) + 37.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.2
8 64.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.24
9 65.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.6% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.27
10 63.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.1% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.31
11 55.9% Turks (Behar) + 44.1% German (Dodecad) @ 6.6
12 67.1% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 32.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.97
13 58.8% Turks (Behar) + 41.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 6.98
14 76.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.1% Hazara (HGDP) @ 7.02
15 57.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 42.6% German (Dodecad) @ 7.07
16 59.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 40.2% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.09
17 72.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 7.19
18 61.1% Turks (Behar) + 38.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 7.23
19 66.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 33.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.25
20 57.5% Turks (Behar) + 42.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 7.26
Distance to: X
6.25980830 Turk_Bulgaria
7.03625611 Turk_Greece
7.48713563 Turk_Romania
8.67147046 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
9.47822241 Turk_Macedonia
10.73725756 R.Moldova_Gagauz
11.31350520 Gagauz
11.95752065 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
12.44565386 R.Moldova_South
13.35775056 Albanian_Kosovo
13.55973820 Pomak
13.98952823 Turk_Northwest
14.16350239 Albanian_North
14.19705561 Italy_Apulia
14.94870228 Bulgarian
15.11318630 Macedonian
15.40521353 Italy_Lazio
15.99867807 Romanians
16.16461647 Italy_Abruzzo
16.34860545 Bulgarians
16.82000113 Italy_Marche
16.86582343 Montenegrin
16.88280486 Turk_Southwest
16.93517936 Turk_West_BlackSea
17.23668834 Italy_Sicily
Target: X
Distance: 1.4079% / 1.40794806 | ADC: 0.25x
38.4 Gagauz
27.2 R.Moldova_Gagauz
21.4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.6 Greek_Crete
2.4 Lebanese
1.6 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
1.6 Ket
1.2 Nogais
1.0 Yemenese
0.6 Bedouin
Target: X
Distance: 3.1989% / 3.19889768 | ADC: 0.5x
73.8 R.Moldova_Gagauz
22.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.0 Lebanese
0.4 Azerbaijani
I find this result interesting; such a mix gives slightly less European version of I.
Balkan Turk
1/4 Targovishte
1/4 Varna
1/4 Langaza
1/4 Kırklareli
How widespread is Balkan ancestry (Balkan Turkish, Pomak, Bosniak, Albanian) in modern Turkey in your opinion? Let's say down to 25% (one grandparent).
Kaspias
07-20-2020, 12:35 PM
How widespread is Balkan ancestry (Balkan Turkish, Pomak, Bosniak, Albanian) in modern Turkey in your opinion? Let's say down to 25% (one grandparent).
Pretty common in Western Anatolia considering even the isolated Yörük villages got the Balkan migration following the Russo-Turkish War. I can even say that an average Western Anatolian may have a 50-50% chance to have such an ancestor in the past. But this is something deeper, and already absorbed in most cases.
Having a recent Balkan ancestor is also common but only in some cities: Eastern Thrace as a whole, Bursa, İzmir, İstanbul, Eskişehir, Kocaeli, Çanakkale, Balıkesir, Manisa, Bilecik, Aydın, Yalova, Sakarya, Kütahya, Ankara the ones I recall immediately. In addition, there are Balkan communities who live together and marry only among each other.
https://i.ibb.co/qDhT4SL/9ef7ef99-51fc-44f9-aef5-6603d68f8956.png
Meriç
07-20-2020, 12:42 PM
I find this result interesting; such a mix gives slightly less European version of I.
Altay'ın sonucuna da benziyor.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.47
2 North_European 22.23
3 Atlantic_Med 20.59
4 Gedrosia 9.55
5 Southwest_Asian 8.88
6 Siberian 6.27
7 East_Asian 2.64
8 South_Asian 2.31
9 Northwest_African 0.63
10 East_African 0.41
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.77
2 Greek (Dodecad) 15.23
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.46
4 Romanians (Behar) 16.37
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.48
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.38
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.77
8 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.12
9 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.28
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.54
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.91
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.37
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.44
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.23
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.62
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.83
17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 23.5
18 North_Italian (HGDP) 24
19 Turks (Behar) 24.22
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 25.94
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.3% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.69
2 63.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 36.2% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.04
3 68.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.53
4 65.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 34.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.94
5 64% Turks (Behar) + 36% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.96
6 61.9% Turks (Behar) + 38.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 7.01
7 70.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 29.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 7.04
8 71.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.9% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 7.05
9 59.9% Turks (Behar) + 40.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 7.08
10 62.7% Turks (Behar) + 37.3% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 7.15
11 62.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 37.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 7.18
12 61% Turks (Behar) + 39% English (Dodecad) @ 7.19
13 60.9% Turks (Behar) + 39.1% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 7.21
14 62.7% Turks (Behar) + 37.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 7.21
15 60.7% Turks (Behar) + 39.3% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 7.23
16 62.6% Turks (Behar) + 37.4% Irish (Dodecad) @ 7.24
17 62.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 37.5% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 7.26
18 62.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 37.3% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.27
19 61.9% Turks (Behar) + 38.1% British (Dodecad) @ 7.27
20 68.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 31.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 7.29
mergen3
07-20-2020, 12:50 PM
Pretty common in Western Anatolia considering even the isolated Yörük villages got the Balkan migration following the Russo-Turkish War. I can even say that an average Western Anatolian may have a 50-50% chance to have such an ancestor in the past. But this is something deeper, and already absorbed in most cases.
Having a recent Balkan ancestor is also common but only in some cities: Eastern Thrace as a whole, Bursa, İzmir, İstanbul, Eskişehir, Kocaeli, Çanakkale, Balıkesir, Manisa, Bilecik, Aydın, Yalova, Sakarya, Kütahya, Ankara the ones I recall immediately. In addition, there are Balkan communities who live together and marry only among each other.
https://i.ibb.co/qDhT4SL/9ef7ef99-51fc-44f9-aef5-6603d68f8956.png
yes, my grandfather's village is isolated. but there are Bosnian and Balkan immigrants in the village. but, no one remembers the Balkan ancestor. Most of them got married with yoruks. I also have 1/16 Balkan ancestors.
Also, even in Kayseri, there are around 5-10% Balkan immigrants. But there has been a lot of mixing with Anatolian Turkish.
Redmi Note 7 cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
Kaspias
07-20-2020, 12:55 PM
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yes, my grandfather's village is isolated. but there are Bosnian and Balkan immigrants in the village. but, no one remembers the Balkan ancestor. Most of them got married with yoruks. I also have 1/16 Balkan ancestors.
Yes, this is the case in most of Aegean Yörük villages.
Also, even in Kayseri, there are around 5-10% Balkan immigrants. But there has been a lot of mixing with Anatolian Turkish.
There should be hotspots in other cities as well. Adana and Samsun the other ones I remember. The wave that came with population exchange distributed all over Anatolia, even including SE Anatolia.
mergen3
07-20-2020, 01:02 PM
Yes, this is the case in most of Aegean Yörük villages.
There should be hotspots in other cities as well. Adana and Samsun the other ones I remember. The wave that came with population exchange distributed all over Anatolia, even including SE Anatolia.yes, there are also Crete immigrants in the center of Antalya. Generally, people are very mixed in the center of Adana and Mersin. I know 3 people from Adana. they all have Balkan ancestors. but there are also Nusayri and Anatolian Turks ancestors.
Redmi Note 7 cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
Hardly an Asian but whatever - half Volga Tatar, half Russian (he looks fully Europoid with light pigmentation)
Population
Gedrosia 4.04 Pct
Siberian 8.71 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.56 Pct
Atlantic_Med 15.09 Pct
North_European 50.04 Pct
South_Asian 1.37 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.43 Pct
East_Asian 4.46 Pct
Caucasus 13.18 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.12 Pct
Target: Timur
Distance: 2.8551% / 2.85514379 | ADC: 0.5x
49.2 Tatar_Kazan
29.0 Mordovian
17.0 Rus_Kostroma
4.8 R.Moldova_Centre+North
Target: Timur
Distance: 1.7360% / 1.73601445 | ADC: 0.25x
53.0 Tatar_Kazan
22.6 Mixed_Slav
18.2 Mordovian
6.2 Bulgarians
With the Mixed_Slav removed
Target: Timur
Distance: 2.8551% / 2.85514379 | ADC: 0.5x
49.2 Tatar_Kazan
29.0 Mordovian
17.0 Rus_Kostroma
4.8 R.Moldova_Centre+North
Target: Timur
Distance: 2.0576% / 2.05758049 | ADC: 0.25x
44.2 Tatar_Kazan
36.2 Mordovian
11.0 Rus_Tver
8.4 Bulgarians
0.2 Japanese
Pretty common in Western Anatolia considering even the isolated Yörük villages got the Balkan migration following the Russo-Turkish War. I can even say that an average Western Anatolian may have a 50-50% chance to have such an ancestor in the past. But this is something deeper, and already absorbed in most cases.
Having a recent Balkan ancestor is also common but only in some cities: Eastern Thrace as a whole, Bursa, İzmir, İstanbul, Eskişehir, Kocaeli, Çanakkale, Balıkesir, Manisa, Bilecik, Aydın, Yalova, Sakarya, Kütahya, Ankara the ones I recall immediately. In addition, there are Balkan communities who live together and marry only among each other.
https://i.ibb.co/qDhT4SL/9ef7ef99-51fc-44f9-aef5-6603d68f8956.png
100% true
There are many Balkan Turk - Anatolian Turk couples, one of them was from Manisa. I've watched a travel program and the presenter went to a Balkan(Bulgarian) Turk village in Manisa and there was a young(at least 20-25 years old) Yörük woman in the village who married to a Balkan Turk from that village. Also a member of Stardust(a Turkish girl group which will debut at 23rd August) called "Havana"(of course it's her stage name) has Balkan(Thessaloniki, Greece) Turk mother & Anatolian(Samsun) Turk father. There are more examples like that due to there is no religious or ethnical differences. There are Balkan Turks even in Tokat
I guess the Balkan Turk population in Turkey is 4%-8% and 10%-15% among ethnic Turkish population
100% true
There are many Balkan Turk - Anatolian Turk couples, one of them was from Manisa. I've watched a travel program and the presenter went to a Balkan(Bulgarian) Turk village in Manisa and there was a young(at least 20-25 years old) Yörük woman in the village who married to a Balkan Turk from that village. Also a member of Stardust(a Turkish girl group which will debut at 23rd August) called "Havana"(of course it's her stage name) has Balkan(Thessaloniki, Greece) Turk mother & Anatolian(Samsun) Turk father. There are more examples like that due to there is no religious or ethnical differences. There are Balkan Turks even in Tokat
Crimean Tatars and North Caucasians in Turkey are also largely diluted/Turkified among younger generations (under 30), aren't they?
Chechen
Y-DNA: L3
Gedrosia 22.03 Pct
Siberian 1.69 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.86 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.38 Pct
North_European 21.81 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.76 Pct
East_Asian 0.81 Pct
Caucasus 42.66 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Isa
2.23217383 Chechen
4.36339318 Ingush
6.43271327 Balkar
6.80940526 Qumuq
7.13627354 Kumyks
7.49038050 Karachay
7.61606197 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.70578354 Avar_Dagestan
7.98790335 Lezgin
8.10724367 Circassian
Target: Isa
Distance: 1.3173% / 1.31731301 | ADC: 0.5x
94.4 Chechen
5.6 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
Target: Isa
Distance: 1.0534% / 1.05338664 | ADC: 0.25x
89.0 Chechen
6.2 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
3.2 Lezgin
0.8 Albanian_Kosovo
0.8 Armenian_East
Crimean (Steppe) Tatar
Gedrosia: 10.02
Siberian: 10.54
Northwest_African: 0.0
Southeast_Asian: 2.76
Atlantic_Med: 13.25
North_European: 26.45
South_Asian: 2.47
East_African: 0.0
Southwest_Asian: 4.93
East_Asian: 13.73
Caucasus: 15.84
Sub_Saharan: 0.0
Distance to: Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
16.55240164 Uzbek
17.94976880 Bashkir
18.67721874 Tatar_Kazan
18.82066683 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
19.55362882 Turk_Romania
19.92221373 Turk_Bulgaria
22.35236005 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
22.75861375 Turk_Greece
22.79071302 Karakalpak
23.99771031 Tajik_Balanovsky2019
24.05381674 R.Moldova_Gagauz
24.15162727 Turk_Northwest
24.43722161 HUN_Szekely
24.63058668 Nogais
24.75904885 R.Moldova_South
24.84720306 Pomak
24.98890154 Gagauz
25.17391308 Yoruk
25.47822404 Turk_Macedonia
25.87521208 Macedonian
26.10880886 R.Moldova_Centre+North
26.27882417 Montenegrin
26.59289379 Serb
26.60565917 Turkmen_Iran
26.63896582 Turk_Southwest
Target: Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
Distance: 0.1197% / 0.11969429
6.2 Azerbaijan_Jews
4.6 Hungarians
4.2 Romanians
3.8 Mixed_Slav
3.4 Estonian
3.2 British
3.2 Kurds
3.2 Turk_Romania
2.6 PL_Mazovia
2.6 Rus_Pinega
2.6 Finnish_West
2.4 Japanese
1.8 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
1.6 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
1.6 Naga
1.6 Qumuq
1.6 Saudis
1.4 Iran_Central_East
1.4 English_Kent
1.4 Tatar_Kazan
1.4 Turkmens
1.2 Buryat
1.2 German
1.2 Han
1.2 Iranian
1.2 Ket
1.2 Mari
1.2 Selkup
1.2 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
1.2 Yukagir
1.2 Karelian
1.2 Mordovian
1.0 AFG_Tajik
1.0 Altai
1.0 Evenk
1.0 Hazara
1.0 Mongol
1.0 Tajiks
1.0 Yizu
0.8 Balochi
0.8 Bashkir
0.8 Daur
0.8 Georgian_Turkey
0.8 Greek
0.8 Hezhen
0.8 Kho
0.8 Komi
0.8 Korean
0.8 Naxi
0.8 Nganassan
0.8 Piramalai_Kallars
0.8 Swedish
0.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.8 Udmurt
0.8 Lithuanian
0.6 Albanian_Kosovo
0.6 CHB30
0.6 Dolgan
0.6 Nogais
0.6 She
0.6 Tu
0.6 Uygur
0.6 Xibo
0.4 British_Isles
0.4 Chechen
0.4 Chuvash
0.4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
0.4 French
0.4 Italy_Trentino
0.4 JPT30
0.4 Karakalpak
0.4 Kumyks
Crimean Tatars and North Caucasians in Turkey are also largely diluted/Turkified among younger generations (under 30), aren't they?
Not fully. There are many people under 30 who know they're Crimean Tatars or Caucasians, even 90% of them are pure Tatars/Caucasians. But unfortunately they don't know their language very well. Our goverment must do something about this.
Not fully. There are many people under 30 who know they're Crimean Tatars or Caucasians, even 90% of them are pure Tatars/Caucasians. But unfortunately they don't know their language very well. Our goverment must do something about this.
Well, they were born in Turkey and speak Turkish, isn't assimilation for the sake of national unity/social cohesion the founding principle of the Turkish republic. Tatar is already a Turkic language closely related to Anatolian Turkish and as for Caucasian languages, I can tell you they are generally in decline in the North Caucasus itself due to them being heterogeneous (sometimes people don't even understand a different dialect of the same language), difficult and not particularly useful in the modern world.
Kaspias
07-20-2020, 02:15 PM
100% true
There are many Balkan Turk - Anatolian Turk couples, one of them was from Manisa. I've watched a travel program and the presenter went to a Balkan(Bulgarian) Turk village in Manisa and there was a young(at least 20-25 years old) Yörük woman in the village who married to a Balkan Turk from that village. Also a member of Stardust(a Turkish girl group which will debut at 23rd August) called "Havana"(of course it's her stage name) has Balkan(Thessaloniki, Greece) Turk mother & Anatolian(Samsun) Turk father. There are more examples like that due to there is no religious or ethnical differences. There are Balkan Turks even in Tokat
I guess the Balkan Turk population in Turkey is 4%-8% and 10%-15% among ethnic Turkish population
Balkan Turk population is around 8-9 million when taking into account the villages formed after the Russo-Turkish War by the refugees and consisted of only Balkan Turks(Pomaks are integrated into Balkan Turk society and probably this number includes most of Pomaks too.) With non-Turk Balkan Muslims(Albanians, Bosniaks, Pomaks, Gorani) it is up to 14 million, I believe.
Well, they were born in Turkey and speak Turkish, isn't assimilation for the sake of national unity/social cohesion the founding principle of the Turkish republic. Tatar is already a Turkic language closely related to Anatolian Turkish and as for Caucasian languages, I can tell you they are generally in decline in the North Caucasus itself due to them being heterogeneous (sometimes people don't even understand a different dialect of the same language), difficult and not partiularly useful in the modern world.
No, it's not and musn't be. Even if they're not useful, they must learn and hand down it to the next generations. I'm so against the assimilation. I think assimilation is a humanity crime itself. The diversity and languages musn't die. Also one nation theory may be suitable for Euro & East Asian countries(because they're 99% of same ethnicity) but it is not suitable for Turkey and other Asian countries, especially for West, Central, South & Southeast Asia countries like Iran, Afghanistan, India, Malaysia, Uzbekistan etc. Because they're too diverse
When people were born and live in the same city/town, speak the same language and have the same religion (provided it still remains important), there is basically no reason left for them not to mix, unless there are vast class differences of course as is the case in Latin America for ex.
Kaspias
07-20-2020, 02:24 PM
Crimean Tatars and North Caucasians in Turkey are also largely diluted/Turkified among younger generations (under 30), aren't they?
North Caucasians, yes. The younger generation knows who they are, yet identify as Turk just like the others. I wouldn't say assimilation to the situation of Tatars. Their language shift dates to the Crimean Khanate and they accepted as regular Turks in Turkey since the beginning. But they still have a Tatar identification in the community if that's what you are asking.
All of these ethnic groups tend to marry among themselves, but it is hard to sustain it in such a multicultural society. Expectedly Turkification will peak as younger generations come up. What I can say is they all still have an ethnic identification despite they don't use it in the community. In my experience, only Anatolian and Balkan Turks claim they are nothing but Turks.
No, it's not and musn't be. Even if they're not useful, they must learn and hand down it to the next generations. I'm so against the assimilation. I think assimilation is a humanity crime itself. The diversity and languages musn't die. Also one nation theory may be suitable for Euro & East Asian countries(because they're 99% of same ethnicity) but it is not suitable for Turkey and other Asian countries, especially for West, Central, South & Southeast Asia countries like Iran, Afghanistan, India, Malaysia, Uzbekistan etc. Because they're too diverse
I have a somewhat different opinion but let's not start a debate right here. I can only tell you that more diversity means less cohesion and anyway most people will use whatever language that is the most useful where they live. Practicality is more important for them than anything else.
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