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RyoHazuki
06-13-2020, 09:12 AM
For those of Celto-Germanic stock. Scaled.


Afrikaner,0.1158925,0.1294338,0.0524198,0.0390096, 0.0370557,0.0149967,0.0038134,0.0064823,0.006675,0 .0051854,-0.0041999,0.004278,-0.008825,-0.0072503,0.0141829,0.0031157,-0.0054702,0.003219,0.0025997,0.0039849,0.0033293,0 .0021526,0.0004594,0.0100506,0.0003211
Austrian,0.1290886,0.1350056,0.054394,0.032737,0.0 347756,0.0125666,0.0072299,0.0062441,0.0028274,0.0 027551,-0.0038781,0.0007847,-0.0012942,0.0027849,0.0005029,0.0036968,0.0002223, 0.00079,0.0031793,0.0008385,-0.0009909,-0.0026548,0.0016675,0.0029627,-0.0010284
Danish,0.1286198,0.1365888,0.0652418,0.0490152,0.0 441618,0.01757,0.003995,0.007788,0.0021475,-0.004009,-0.0051962,0.0019858,-0.0073588,-0.0026492,0.0211385,0.0018232,-0.010822,0.0008235,0.006599,0.0038145,0.0028078,0. 0008653,0.0016023,0.0151828,0.0054485
Dutch,0.1267527,0.1313048,0.0610935,0.0461486,0.04 0469,0.0166244,0.0065435,0.0080802,0.003576,0.0003 275,-0.0064447,0.0045873,-0.0087082,-0.0088422,0.0174443,0.005345,-0.0082143,0.0012669,0.0042698,0.0028138,0.0046909, 0.0028672,0.0002678,0.0153541,-0.0004921
English,0.1318551,0.137043,0.0617883,0.044013,0.03 92299,0.0167481,0.0049845,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.00 56781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0. 0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
English_Cornwall,0.1301962,0.1397525,0.0613546,0.0 431826,0.0419013,0.0164115,0.0034346,0.0063902,0.0 064819,0.0069669,-0.0046342,0.0064788,-0.0137455,-0.0102476,0.0207548,0.003172,-0.012527,0.0021146,0.0037613,0.0032419,0.0048088,0 .0038712,-0.0007584,0.0143671,0.0006909
French_Alsace,0.1273112,0.1403715,0.0503172,0.0224 324,0.0384224,0.0089105,0.0029199,0.0048748,0.0068 516,0.010679,-0.0031341,0.0045785,-0.0094438,-0.0041699,0.0085606,0.0030662,-0.0048927,0.0024387,0.003243,-0.000716,0.0027639,0.0011562,-0.0013219,0.0071364,-0.0003143
French_Brittany,0.1314657,0.1383406,0.0578504,0.03 92849,0.0391688,0.0158131,0.0031549,0.0042114,0.00 8186,0.0094899,-0.0051314,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.0131017,0.0183426,0.0043987,-0.0073016,0.0012795,-0.000462,0.0017727,0.0044671,0.0017868,-0.001254,0.0105465,0.0006586
German,0.1302626,0.1373792,0.0579811,0.0387068,0.0 400035,0.0156461,0.0040665,0.0057865,0.003526,0.00 188,-0.0044133,0.0023732,-0.0053706,-0.0025417,0.0085125,0.0032913,-0.0032728,0.0016631,0.0033669,0.0017191,0.00314,0. 002005,7.18e-05,0.0083052,0.0002774
German_East,0.1308965,0.1384928,0.0610936,0.049984 2,0.0381225,0.0161408,0.0063158,0.007038,0.0021988 ,-0.0049205,-0.0052168,-0.0017799,-3.71e-05,0.008223,0.0013064,-0.0031324,-0.0079045,0.0011876,0.0053106,-0.0007504,0.0006239,-0.0011128,0.0017716,0.0016118,-0.0003142
Icelandic,0.1326987,0.1336267,0.067819,0.0563097,0 .0393663,0.0229619,0.0033488,0.0085188,0.0026418,6 .07e-05,-0.0054806,0.0051702,-0.0063675,-0.0090831,0.0230725,0.0052924,-0.0116909,0.0019109,0.0017389,0.0038873,0.0092545, 0.0028028,-0.0008422,0.0140179,0.0008282
Irish,0.1334042,0.134875,0.0610876,0.0482532,0.038 3388,0.0188992,0.003,0.0047738,0.0031318,0.002725,-0.00714,0.005606,-0.0143759,-0.0139278,0.0253478,0.0048208,-0.0110725,0.0022052,0.0007502,0.0013385,0.0051745, 0.0012249,-0.0003563,0.0147667,0.0010665
Norwegian,0.1338234,0.1279567,0.0679357,0.0534334, 0.0386443,0.0210366,0.0041964,0.0062964,0.0057267, 0.0003906,-0.0037349,0.0036823,-0.007518,-0.011698,0.0210754,0.0093949,-0.0054203,0.0026061,0.0006823,0.0007503,0.005633,0 .0055643,0.0042784,0.0177304,0.0010947
Orcadian,0.1306689,0.1342528,0.0629793,0.04845,0.0 387149,0.0175423,0.001786,0.0039229,0.0050312,0.00 1786,-0.0068367,0.0048108,-0.0119078,-0.0108308,0.0223531,0.0030364,-0.0123864,0.0034712,0.0026774,0.0003001,0.0049539, 0.0022504,-0.0021567,0.0100374,-0.0005988
Scottish,0.1314657,0.1342312,0.0622654,0.0470426,0 .039106,0.0172812,0.0035502,0.0051756,0.0035719,0. 0028246,-0.005614,0.0050473,-0.0116806,-0.0119731,0.023024,0.0031254,-0.0112549,0.0027736,0.0025499,0.0014516,0.0042246, 0.0033076,-0.0006559,0.0135561,-0.0007698
Shetlandic,0.1343113,0.133373,0.060842,0.0479117,0 .0404177,0.0194293,0.00423,0.0046923,0.003545,-0.0041307,-0.0039513,0.006744,-0.0115457,-0.0126153,0.021308,0.0026077,-0.0087357,0.001436,0.002975,-0.0024597,0.0032027,0.0026793,0.0062853,0.0187977, 0.0026743
Swiss_German,0.127624,0.1407779,0.0460088,0.022731 1,0.0406229,0.0073906,0.0027906,0.0051344,0.008640 9,0.0121641,-0.0015224,0.005264,-0.0149402,-0.008808,0.0083638,-0.0011269,-0.0025912,0.0012192,0.0053735,-0.0009222,0.0019341,0.0035086,-0.0025574,0.006974,-0.0025596
Welsh,0.1319779,0.1381628,0.0601319,0.0430236,0.04 05922,0.0166218,0.0033135,0.006392,0.0062789,0.004 3372,-0.0042302,0.0059122,-0.0129112,-0.0109754,0.0205954,0.005708,-0.0087032,0.0023564,0.003086,0.0020072,0.0049849,0 .0038518,-1.24e-05,0.0112243,0.0008083

Grace O'Malley
06-13-2020, 09:27 AM
With Icelandic removed. Icelanders are just a Scando/Gaelic mix and not a source population. The same with the Orcadians. :)

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8219% / 0.01821930
62.6 Irish
16.2 Norwegian
12.8 Orcadian
8.4 Danish

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.7031% / 0.01703132
50.0 Irish
47.4 Icelandic
2.6 Welsh

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01875615 Irish
0.01914452 Icelandic
0.01963632 Scottish
0.01980300 Orcadian
0.02206228 English
0.02219810 Welsh
0.02336456 Norwegian
0.02454052 English_Cornwall
0.02458960 Dutch
0.02493577 Shetlandic
0.02530066 Danish
0.02758167 French_Brittany
0.03333011 German
0.03777837 Afrikaner
0.04377645 German_East
0.04754192 Austrian
0.04759052 French_Alsace
0.05029695 Swiss_German

Kyp
06-13-2020, 09:52 AM
Target: Kyp_scaled
Distance: 2.5838% / 0.02583755
53.4 Azeri
41.2 German_East
5.4 English_Cornwall


Cornwall removed:

Target: Kyp_scaled
Distance: 2.8962% / 0.02896189
52.6 Azeri
24.4 Danish
23.0 Austrian

RyoHazuki
06-13-2020, 10:16 AM
With Icelandic removed. Icelanders are just a Scando/Gaelic mix and not a source population. The same with the Orcadians. :)

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8219% / 0.01821930
62.6 Irish
16.2 Norwegian
12.8 Orcadian
8.4 Danish

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.7031% / 0.01703132
50.0 Irish
47.4 Icelandic
2.6 Welsh

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01875615 Irish
0.01914452 Icelandic
0.01963632 Scottish
0.01980300 Orcadian
0.02206228 English
0.02219810 Welsh
0.02336456 Norwegian
0.02454052 English_Cornwall
0.02458960 Dutch
0.02493577 Shetlandic
0.02530066 Danish
0.02758167 French_Brittany
0.03333011 German
0.03777837 Afrikaner
0.04377645 German_East
0.04754192 Austrian
0.04759052 French_Alsace
0.05029695 Swiss_German

Yeah, I removed those two as well as Cornwall (for not being a source population).



Distance: 2.9768% / 0.02976844
78.4 English
15.4 Afrikaner
4.4 Swiss_German
1.8 German_East

J. Ketch
06-13-2020, 10:27 AM
Distance to: Creoda_scaled
0.01721798 Orcadian
0.01847653 Scottish
0.01967844 Irish
0.02087370 English
0.02090097 English_Cornwall
0.02218451 Icelandic
0.02279147 Welsh
0.02385523 Shetlandic
0.02385536 Dutch
0.02661904 Danish
0.02685711 French_Brittany
0.02758923 Norwegian
0.03378111 German
0.03515967 Afrikaner
0.04150325 German_East
0.04544095 French_Alsace
0.04773904 Austrian
0.04789676 Swiss_German

Distance to: CreodaMum_scaled
0.01886201 Welsh
0.02002575 Dutch
0.02105966 Scottish
0.02114182 English
0.02167288 Orcadian
0.02183018 Norwegian
0.02203865 Irish
0.02218829 Shetlandic
0.02288413 French_Brittany
0.02406696 English_Cornwall
0.02451632 German
0.02504237 Icelandic
0.02817213 Danish
0.02953259 Afrikaner
0.03765100 Austrian
0.03877706 French_Alsace
0.03968895 German_East
0.04066228 Swiss_German

Distance to: CreodaDad_scaled
0.02309102 Orcadian
0.02408025 Icelandic
0.02433498 Scottish
0.02571521 Irish
0.02731585 English_Cornwall
0.02732138 English
0.02777504 Danish
0.02929440 Welsh
0.02977876 Shetlandic
0.03036280 Dutch
0.03200460 Norwegian
0.03381089 French_Brittany
0.03827258 German
0.04038099 Afrikaner
0.04068452 German_East
0.05095683 French_Alsace
0.05112569 Austrian
0.05365251 Swiss_German

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.7104% / 0.01710440
80.0 Orcadian
11.6 Icelandic
8.4 English_Cornwall

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 1.6701% / 0.01670103
45.2 Norwegian
33.0 Welsh
14.8 German
7.0 Swiss_German

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.2120% / 0.02211955
55.6 Orcadian
39.6 Icelandic
4.8 German_East


Without Orcadian and Icelandic

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.8455% / 0.01845501
82.4 Scottish
8.6 Irish
7.0 English_Cornwall
2.0 German_East

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 1.6701% / 0.01670090
44.6 Norwegian
33.6 Welsh
15.2 German
6.6 Swiss_German

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.3837% / 0.02383651
61.2 Scottish
19.0 Irish
12.2 German_East
7.6 Danish

RyoHazuki
06-13-2020, 10:44 AM
Distance to: Creoda_scaled
0.01721798 Orcadian
0.01847653 Scottish
0.01967844 Irish
0.02087370 English
0.02090097 English_Cornwall
0.02218451 Icelandic
0.02279147 Welsh
0.02385523 Shetlandic
0.02385536 Dutch
0.02661904 Danish
0.02685711 French_Brittany
0.02758923 Norwegian
0.03378111 German
0.03515967 Afrikaner
0.04150325 German_East
0.04544095 French_Alsace
0.04773904 Austrian
0.04789676 Swiss_German

Distance to: CreodaMum_scaled
0.01886201 Welsh
0.02002575 Dutch
0.02105966 Scottish
0.02114182 English
0.02167288 Orcadian
0.02183018 Norwegian
0.02203865 Irish
0.02218829 Shetlandic
0.02288413 French_Brittany
0.02406696 English_Cornwall
0.02451632 German
0.02504237 Icelandic
0.02817213 Danish
0.02953259 Afrikaner
0.03765100 Austrian
0.03877706 French_Alsace
0.03968895 German_East
0.04066228 Swiss_German

Distance to: CreodaDad_scaled
0.02309102 Orcadian
0.02408025 Icelandic
0.02433498 Scottish
0.02571521 Irish
0.02731585 English_Cornwall
0.02732138 English
0.02777504 Danish
0.02929440 Welsh
0.02977876 Shetlandic
0.03036280 Dutch
0.03200460 Norwegian
0.03381089 French_Brittany
0.03827258 German
0.04038099 Afrikaner
0.04068452 German_East
0.05095683 French_Alsace
0.05112569 Austrian
0.05365251 Swiss_German

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.7104% / 0.01710440
80.0 Orcadian
11.6 Icelandic
8.4 English_Cornwall

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 1.6701% / 0.01670103
45.2 Norwegian
33.0 Welsh
14.8 German
7.0 Swiss_German

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.2120% / 0.02211955
55.6 Orcadian
39.6 Icelandic
4.8 German_East


Without Orcadian and Icelandic

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.8455% / 0.01845501
82.4 Scottish
8.6 Irish
7.0 English_Cornwall
2.0 German_East

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 1.6701% / 0.01670090
44.6 Norwegian
33.6 Welsh
15.2 German
6.6 Swiss_German

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.3837% / 0.02383651
61.2 Scottish
19.0 Irish
12.2 German_East
7.6 Danish

How much do they change if you add Spain to without Icelandic/Orcadian?
Spanish_Asturias,0.110408,0.144205,0.045632,0.0006 46,0.051702,-0.007251,-0.007285,0.006923,0.025975,0.031345,-0.003248,0.008093,-0.019029,-0.009083,0.014386,-0.013392,-0.015907,0.001267,-0.005405,-0.000875,0.006863,-0.006059,-0.001602,0.001325,0.006466

gixajo
06-13-2020, 10:49 AM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.2802% / 0.04280247
100.0 Swiss_German

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.2802% / 0.04280247 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Swiss_German

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.2802% / 0.04280247 | ADC: 0.5x
100.0 Swiss_German

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.04280247 Swiss_German
0.04584494 French_Alsace
0.05924134 French_Brittany
0.06205732 Afrikaner
0.06331159 Austrian
0.06458197 German
0.06574595 English_Cornwall
0.06613157 Welsh
0.06793278 English
0.07220253 Scottish
0.07247965 Orcadian
0.07298030 Dutch
0.07433635 Irish
0.07868519 Danish
0.07887071 Shetlandic
0.07926069 German_East
0.08305087 Norwegian
0.08398012 Icelandic

Vojnik
06-13-2020, 10:55 AM
<tbody>
Target: Vojnik_scaled
Distance: 5.2774% / 0.05277402




40.2
Swiss_German





38.4
Austrian





21.4
French_Alsace

</tbody>



<tbody>
Distance to:
Vojnik_scaled


0.05338568
French_Alsace


0.05450589
Swiss_German


0.05551146
Austrian


0.06726702
German


0.06963305
Afrikaner


0.07426743
German_East


0.07650287
French_Brittany


0.08003232
Welsh


0.08143591
Dutch


0.08209645
English_Cornwall


0.08220000
English


0.08499509
Scottish


0.08556568
Orcadian


0.08613101
Shetlandic


0.08625799
Danish


0.08808375
Irish


0.09230966
Norwegian


0.09494525
Icelandic

</tbody>

J. Ketch
06-13-2020, 10:56 AM
Yeah, I removed those two as well as Cornwall (for not being a source population).
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Modern populations are only source populations if you actually have ancestry from them. In the case of G25 my modern source populations aren't quite representative, so it's better to rely on Ancestry.com, which has thousands of references from different parts of each country.

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.9374% / 0.01937361
69.2 Irish
30.8 English


How much do they change if you add Spain to without Icelandic/Orcadian?
Spanish_Asturias,0.110408,0.144205,0.045632,0.0006 46,0.051702,-0.007251,-0.007285,0.006923,0.025975,0.031345,-0.003248,0.008093,-0.019029,-0.009083,0.014386,-0.013392,-0.015907,0.001267,-0.005405,-0.000875,0.006863,-0.006059,-0.001602,0.001325,0.006466
It doesn't change.

gixajo
06-13-2020, 11:08 AM
Asturias is not my close Spanish region, quite better Cantabria or Aragón, but if I add it:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.7399% / 0.02739902
64.0 Spanish_Asturias
36.0 Swiss_German

Removing Asturias and adding Cantabria:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8469% / 0.01846936
94.0 Spanish_Cantabria
6.0 Austrian

Removing Cantabria and adding Aragón:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.5749% / 0.01574942
92.2 Spanish_Aragon
7.8 Austrian

Or removing Aragón and adding Navarra:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.9648% / 0.01964840
85.0 Spanish_Navarra
15.0 Austrian

But well, I am not Northern European.:)

Grace O'Malley
06-13-2020, 11:15 AM
With both Orcadian and Icelandic removed this is my result.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8250% / 0.01824983
72.8 Irish
16.0 Norwegian
11.2 Danish

Adding Spanish_Asturias doesn't make any difference to my results.

mitalit
06-13-2020, 12:02 PM
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.9593% / 0.03959339
100.0 Swiss_German

Distance to: Xabier_scaled
0.03959339 Swiss_German
0.04304555 French_Alsace
0.05498166 Afrikaner
0.05562535 French_Brittany
0.05861940 Austrian
0.06052540 German
0.06259997 Welsh
0.06288843 English_Cornwall
0.06492398 English
0.06671001 Dutch
0.06810884 Scottish
0.06945551 Irish
0.06950490 Orcadian
0.07198880 Shetlandic
0.07362718 Danish
0.07694812 Norwegian
0.07762529 German_East
0.08030523 Icelandic



With Asturias:
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.0931% / 0.03093116
52.0 Swiss_German
48.0 Spanish_Asturias

Defcon2
06-13-2020, 12:10 PM
5% Swiss_German, northern shifted.

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.3861% / 0.03386143
95.0 Spanish_Asturias
5.0 Swiss_German


0.03396093 Spanish_Asturias
0.05941788 Swiss_German
0.06345772 French_Alsace
0.07344615 Afrikaner
0.07737078 French_Brittany
0.07902379 Austrian
0.08153223 German
0.08291592 English_Cornwall
0.08452474 Welsh
0.08548183 English
0.08774048 Dutch
0.08872690 Scottish
0.08893569 Orcadian
0.09094098 Irish
0.09343115 Shetlandic
0.09383446 German_East
0.09466506 Danish
0.09920090 Norwegian
0.10046650 Icelandic

PT Tagus
06-13-2020, 12:17 PM
Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 6.2519% / 0.06251908
100.0 Swiss_German


Distance to: Endovelicus_scaled
0.06251908 Swiss_German
0.06355075 French_Alsace
0.07382098 Afrikaner
0.07899595 Austrian
0.08019561 French_Brittany
0.08201316 German
0.08497928 English_Cornwall
0.08599698 Welsh
0.08723622 English
0.08904603 Dutch
0.09060257 Scottish
0.09062549 Orcadian
0.09329075 Irish
0.09463838 German_East
0.09512691 Danish
0.09647706 Shetlandic
0.10124599 Norwegian
0.10135484 Icelandic



With Asturias sample added

Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 4.1858% / 0.04185838
88.8 Spanish_Asturias
9.2 French_Alsace
2.0 Afrikaner


Distance to: Endovelicus_scaled
0.04231481 Spanish_Asturias
0.06251908 Swiss_German
0.06355075 French_Alsace
0.07382098 Afrikaner
0.07899595 Austrian
0.08019561 French_Brittany
0.08201316 German
0.08497928 English_Cornwall
0.08599698 Welsh
0.08723622 English
0.08904603 Dutch
0.09060257 Scottish
0.09062549 Orcadian
0.09329075 Irish
0.09463838 German_East
0.09512691 Danish
0.09647706 Shetlandic
0.10124599 Norwegian
0.10135484 Icelandic

Pedro Ruben
06-13-2020, 04:41 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 5.8722% / 0.05872154
100.0 Swiss_German

celticdragongod
06-13-2020, 05:07 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01700079 Scottish
0.01720422 Shetlandic
0.01810896 English_Cornwall
0.01871597 Irish
0.01901995 Welsh
0.01905219 English
0.01919175 Dutch
0.01923543 Orcadian
0.01977190 Danish
0.02186695 Icelandic
0.02281643 Norwegian
0.02452252 French_Brittany
0.02860471 German
0.03110589 Afrikaner
0.03805567 German_East
0.04158617 Austrian
0.04162023 French_Alsace
0.04395251 Swiss_German

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5692% / 0.01569219 | ADC: 2x
59.2 Scottish
40.8 Shetlandic

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4868% / 0.01486769 | ADC: 1x
49.8 Shetlandic
28.8 English_Cornwall
18.0 Scottish
3.4 Danish

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4551% / 0.01455125 | ADC: 0.5x
47.2 Shetlandic
38.2 English_Cornwall
14.6 Danish

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4512% / 0.01451172 | ADC: 0.25x
43.8 Shetlandic
37.2 English_Cornwall
15.0 Danish
3.6 Icelandic
0.4 German_East

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4493% / 0.01449269
43.2 Shetlandic
37.0 English_Cornwall
11.6 Danish
5.4 Icelandic
2.8 German_East

Coastal Elite
06-13-2020, 05:12 PM
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 2.0053% / 0.02005253
65.6 Swiss_German
33.0 Austrian
1.4 Shetlandic

Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.02258628 Swiss_German
0.02292466 French_Alsace
0.02852776 Austrian
0.03150849 German
0.03439849 Afrikaner
0.03594544 French_Brittany
0.03947193 Welsh
0.04124952 Dutch
0.04127285 English
0.04177863 English_Cornwall
0.04353190 Scottish
0.04443322 Shetlandic
0.04476295 Orcadian
0.04561118 German_East
0.04591821 Irish
0.04901792 Danish
0.05147585 Norwegian
0.05496382 Icelandic

Mom

Target: Daco_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.2868% / 0.01286798
71.8 Shetlandic
23.8 Norwegian
4.4 German_East

Distance to: Daco_mom_scaled
0.01359073 Shetlandic
0.01786220 Norwegian
0.01956128 Scottish
0.02000599 Irish
0.02055531 Orcadian
0.02085322 Welsh
0.02148415 Danish
0.02182364 Dutch
0.02231217 Icelandic
0.02235155 English
0.02371083 English_Cornwall
0.02684009 French_Brittany
0.02896549 German
0.03505686 Afrikaner
0.03907678 German_East
0.04287111 Austrian
0.04426036 French_Alsace
0.04720487 Swiss_German

JQP4545
06-13-2020, 06:16 PM
Target: Rosanne_scaled
Distance: 1.4953% / 0.01495290
45.2 French_Alsace
21.4 French_Brittany
17.6 Austrian
13.0 Icelandic
2.8 Swiss_German

RyoHazuki
06-13-2020, 08:20 PM
Asturias is not my close Spanish region, quite better Cantabria or Aragón, but if I add it:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.7399% / 0.02739902
64.0 Spanish_Asturias
36.0 Swiss_German

Removing Asturias and adding Cantabria:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8469% / 0.01846936
94.0 Spanish_Cantabria
6.0 Austrian

Removing Cantabria and adding Aragón:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.5749% / 0.01574942
92.2 Spanish_Aragon
7.8 Austrian

Or removing Aragón and adding Navarra:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.9648% / 0.01964840
85.0 Spanish_Navarra
15.0 Austrian

But well, I am not Northern European.:)

Asturias is my closest Spanish province so that's why I add, throwing it in changes results. The % stays the same whether I keep Iceland, Orkney, Cornwall or not.


Distance: 2.7041% / 0.02704104
65.4 Orcadian
17.6 Spanish_Asturias
11.4 English_Cornwall
3.4 German_East
2.2 Danish

w/o Iceland/Orkney/Cornwall
Distance: 2.7688% / 0.02768821
35.0 English
33.2 Scottish
17.6 Spanish_Asturias
8.2 Danish
6.0 German_East

RyoHazuki
06-13-2020, 08:25 PM
With both Orcadian and Icelandic removed this is my result.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8250% / 0.01824983
72.8 Irish
16.0 Norwegian
11.2 Danish

Adding Spanish_Asturias doesn't make any difference to my results.

I added it to account for what distant French ancestry some English get, usually 1-7% tops.

JamesBond007
06-13-2020, 08:31 PM
Distance: 2.7283% / 0.02728268
58.6 Norwegian
29.0 Afrikaner
6.4 French_Brittany
6.0 Dutch


Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.02865262 Dutch
0.02966312 Norwegian
0.03097093 Welsh
0.03128912 Irish
0.03153596 Scottish
0.03173767 English
0.03264251 Orcadian
0.03323573 French_Brittany
0.03424261 English_Cornwall
0.03434002 Shetlandic
0.03436262 Afrikaner
0.03554655 Icelandic
0.03738947 German
0.03750956 Danish
0.04724802 French_Alsace
0.04744540 Austrian
0.04923277 Swiss_German
0.05276384 German_East

Gallop
06-13-2020, 08:52 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 4.9860% / 0.04986042
100.0 Swiss_German


Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.04986042 Swiss_German
0.05326481 French_Alsace
0.06537291 Afrikaner
0.06601489 French_Brittany
0.06942351 Austrian
0.07141790 German
0.07260373 Welsh
0.07277272 English_Cornwall
0.07477139 English
0.07797339 Orcadian
0.07812947 Scottish
0.07828393 Dutch
0.08024596 Irish
0.08441782 Shetlandic
0.08507792 Danish
0.08542100 German_East
0.08882137 Norwegian
0.08994037 Icelandic

Chris596
09-25-2020, 08:36 PM
I knew I will be modeled as Austrian :P

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 3.7298% / 0.03729755
100.0 Austrian

Distance to: Chris_scaled
0.03729755 Austrian
0.04771533 French_Alsace
0.05128410 Swiss_German
0.05140777 German
0.05351804 German_East
0.05560815 Afrikaner
0.06531028 French_Brittany
0.06571155 Dutch
0.06749595 Welsh
0.06926718 English
0.07048550 Danish
0.07049886 English_Cornwall
0.07122502 Scottish
0.07136191 Orcadian
0.07285220 Shetlandic
0.07498333 Irish
0.07518439 Norwegian
0.07780349 Icelandic

calxpal
09-25-2020, 08:44 PM
Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.5844% / 0.02584434
71.2 Austrian
28.2 Norwegian
0.6 Swiss_German

Distance to: cpalscaled
0.02859945 Austrian
0.02960424 German
0.03508515 Afrikaner
0.03661877 French_Alsace
0.03679885 Dutch
0.03825319 French_Brittany
0.03908192 Welsh
0.04052296 Norwegian
0.04081053 Swiss_German
0.04160314 English
0.04184793 Shetlandic
0.04309107 Scottish
0.04327064 English_Cornwall
0.04377705 Danish
0.04414828 German_East
0.04506848 Irish
0.04519405 Orcadian
0.04766152 Icelandic

Removing Austrian

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.9408% / 0.02940811
72.2 German
14.8 French_Alsace
13.0 Norwegian

oszkar07
09-26-2020, 12:37 AM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.0635% / 0.02063481 | ADC: 0.25x
76.2 German_East
23.8 French_Alsace

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.0626% / 0.02062586
74.4 German_East
24.6 French_Alsace
1.0 English

alnortedelsur
09-26-2020, 12:40 AM
I'm not northern European, and my distances are a bit crazy, but I did it just for fun:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 8.7842% / 0.08784214
58.0 Swiss_German
34.6 Afrikaner
7.4 French_Alsace

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 8.7843% / 0.08784263 | ADC: 0.25x
57.8 Swiss_German
33.4 Afrikaner
8.8 French_Alsace

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.08847540 French_Alsace
0.08848319 Swiss_German
0.08986383 Afrikaner
0.09700132 Austrian
0.10079214 French_Brittany
0.10156392 German
0.10574812 English_Cornwall
0.10600902 Welsh
0.10605772 Dutch
0.10632932 Orcadian
0.10677254 English
0.10745830 Scottish
0.10984285 Irish
0.11015248 German_East
0.11161200 Danish
0.11218624 Shetlandic
0.11594346 Norwegian
0.11763621 Icelandic

JamesBond007
09-26-2020, 01:30 AM
Modern populations are only source populations if you actually have ancestry from them. In the case of G25 my modern source populations aren't quite representative, so it's better to rely on Ancestry.com, which has thousands of references from different parts of each country.

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.9374% / 0.01937361
69.2 Irish
30.8 English


It doesn't change.

G25 modern samples suck it says I'm closest to the Dutch and AncestryDNA says I'm mostly 'Irish'. What does that even mean ? I disagree though that it is better to rely on AncestryDNA. I think you can model your ancestry with Iron Age and Medieval samples with G25 and that is the best thing you can do unless you nerd out with qpAdm/admix which I'm not going to do and the gains are not that compelling enough for me to invest the effort in the latter. 'Modern' populations are kind of meaningless you know back in the viking and saxon days they had boats but not airplanes etc... and people tended to stay put in their own village for most or all of their life. 'Modern populations' is a nebulous meaningless concept.

England centric (the distances are decently close enough because as a colonial American I probably have some small non-Euro admixture) :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.0081% / 0.02008094
61.2 England_IA
27.2 England_Saxon:I0769
11.6 England_Saxon:I0777

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.0081% / 0.02008094
61.2 England_IA
38.8 England_Saxon

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 1.4168% / 0.01416771 | ADC: 0.25x
46.6 Denmark_Funen(Angle)
28.4 Denmark_Langeland(Angle)
13.4 England_IA (native British Celt)
11.6 Denmark_Jutland (Jute)

InfamousAngel99
09-26-2020, 05:24 PM
Distance: 0.0049% / 0.00004926
25.2 Dutch
25.0 English
24.2 Austrian
24.2 English_Cornwall
0.6 French_Alsace
0.4 German_East
0.2 French_Brittany
0.2 Norwegian

Kyp
09-26-2020, 05:29 PM
Target: MotherKyp_scaled
Distance: 1.3090% / 0.01308974
30.4 Austrian
25.8 German
18.4 Danish
16.0 Welsh
7.0 French_Alsace
2.4 Shetlandic

Target: MotherKyp_scaled
Distance: 1.3584% / 0.01358446 | ADC: 0.5x
90.6 German
5.0 Austrian
4.4 French_Alsace

Beowulf
08-27-2023, 09:58 AM
Distance to: Beowulf_Scaled
0.04262623 59.40% Austrian + 40.60% French_Brittany
0.04383787 32.80% Afrikaner + 67.20% Austrian
0.04443888 85.00% Austrian + 15.00% English_Cornwall
0.04459104 87.60% Austrian + 12.40% Welsh
0.04474654 94.00% Austrian + 6.00% English

Katarzyna
08-27-2023, 10:02 AM
As a Slav I just do it for fun.

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 4.2481% / 0.04248112
100.0 German_East

Abriekman
08-27-2023, 11:57 AM
Target: Abriekman_scaled
Distance: 3.6289% / 0.03628873
71.8 German_East
28.2 Austrian

Suprisingly, I have lower distance here than to most of the Russian averages

noricum
08-27-2023, 04:18 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.1300% / 0.02130032
83.8 German_East
12.4 Austrian
3.8 French_Alsace

Vitez
08-27-2023, 04:28 PM
Just for fun

Target: Vitez_newg25
Distance: 0.0207% / 0.02065434
100.0 Austrian

ScandinavianCelt
08-27-2023, 04:30 PM
Target: Brad.DNAGenics.RSIDMerged.Official.G25
Distance: 1.9206% / 0.01920633

44.4 Orcadian
20.6 Shetlandic
18.4 Afrikaner
14.6 German_East
2.0 Icelandic

Target: Brad.DNAGenics.RSIDMerged.Official.G25
Distance: 1.9208% / 0.01920841 | ADC: 0.5x RC

46.4 Orcadian
21.0 Shetlandic
18.0 Afrikaner
14.6 German_East

Target: Brad.DNAGenics.RSIDMerged.Official.G25
Distance: 2.0718% / 0.02071809 | ADC: 1x RC

68.4 Orcadian
31.6 Dutch

Target: Brad.DNAGenics.RSIDMerged.Official.G25
Distance: 2.1173% / 0.02117253 | ADC: 2x RC

100.0 Orcadian

Figaro
08-27-2023, 05:26 PM
Obviously a much better fit for my primarily NW Euro father, vs. my mother.

Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 1.6905% / 0.01690540
56.6 Danish
31.2 Austrian
9.2 French_Alsace
3.0 Norwegian

Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 2.1723% / 0.02172264
67.8 German_East
32.2 Austrian

cass
08-27-2023, 10:09 PM
As a Slav I just do it for fun.

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 4.2481% / 0.04248112
100.0 German_East



Target: cass
Distance: 2.0529% / 0.02052852
97.8 German_East
2.2 Norwegian


+Early_Medieval_Wielkopolska

Distance to: cass
0.02054909 German_East
0.03473266 Early_Medieval_Wielkopolska
0.03505112 Austrian
0.03532371 German
0.03909422 Danish
0.04172170 Dutch
0.04323634 Icelandic
0.04469859 Norwegian
0.04660407 Orcadian
0.04668575 Afrikaner
0.04733054 Shetlandic
0.04794176 Scottish
0.04800031 Welsh
0.04860024 English
0.05053544 English_Cornwall
0.05150710 Irish
0.05213369 French_Brittany
0.05437837 French_Alsace
0.06078210 Swiss_German

Target: cass
Distance: 1.0468% / 0.01046801
42.6 Early_Medieval_Wielkopolska
23.2 Austrian
18.6 German_East
15.6 Icelandic

mariusz99
08-28-2023, 08:29 AM
Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 4.2884% / 0.04288408
93.6 German_East
6.4 Norwegian

I didn't expect more Germanic results than cass

Katarzyna
08-28-2023, 09:53 AM
Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 4.2884% / 0.04288408
93.6 German_East
6.4 Norwegian

I didn't expect more Germanic results than cass

You are not more Germanic than Cass. Look at mine and your distance and compare it to Cass. When a Slav has a distance of 4 something in this calc it usually mean that he’s around a quarter Germanic. If a person with zero Germanic does the test, a pure balto-Slav, like for instance a Lithuanian or Belarusian, they will get a distance of 5 or 6. If a person gets a distance with 2 something, like Cass, it usually means he’s around 40% Germanic.

That is the case, because it’s a Pan-Nordic calculator without Slavic samples.

mariusz99
08-28-2023, 10:46 AM
You are not more Germanic than Cass. Look at mine and your distance and compare it to Cass. When a Slav has a distance of 4 something in this calc it usually mean that he’s around a quarter Germanic. If a person with zero Germanic does the test, a pure balto-Slav, like for instance a Lithuanian or Belarusian, they will get a distance of 5 or 6. If a person gets a distance with 2 something, like Cass, it usually means he’s around 40% Germanic.

That is the case, because it’s a Pan-Nordic calculator without Slavic samples.

I know, it was irony ��

Abriekman
08-30-2023, 11:32 AM
When a Slav has a distance of 4 something in this calc it usually mean that he’s around a quarter Germanic. If a person with zero Germanic does the test, a pure balto-Slav, like for instance a Lithuanian or Belarusian, they will get a distance of 5 or 6. If a person gets a distance with 2 something, like Cass, it usually means he’s around 40% Germanic.

Not necessarily. I have distance of 3.6% without having any significant Celto-Germanic admixture but I am more southern instead. I noticed that more Southern Slavs are closer to Central Europeans on G25.

Look at what distance to some Western European populations Zakarpattia Ukrainians have:

Distance to: Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03057508 German_East
0.03224561 Austrian
0.04225010 German
0.05194973 Afrikaner
0.05367503 Dutch
0.05373707 Danish
0.05450988 French_Alsace
0.05959537 Shetlandic
0.05960429 Norwegian
0.05983564 Welsh
0.06010704 Orcadian
0.06038429 Swiss_German
0.06070275 English
0.06079991 Scottish
0.06089253 Icelandic
0.06141547 French_Brittany
0.06287040 English_Cornwall
0.06472225 Irish


But in my opinion even distance of 6-7% is close.

Chinese people being one nation have higher distance to each other, because of some regional differences:

Distance to: Han_Shanxi
0.01349029 Han_Henan
0.01496914 Han_Shandong
0.03198093 Han_Jiangsu
0.03655784 Han_Shanghai
0.04057702 Han_Zhejiang
0.04749002 Han_Sichuan
0.05009443 Han_Hubei
0.05367998 Han_Guizhou
0.06111411 Han_Chongqing
0.06263324 Han_Fujian
0.08754928 Han_Guangdong

All Europeans could unite into one nation if they knew how close to each other they are :lol:

Beowulf
08-30-2023, 11:36 AM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0268% / 0.02675617
100.0 Swiss_German


Not bad the distance.

Far_away
08-30-2023, 11:37 AM
:P
Distance: 4.4202% / 0.04420206
88.0 Austrian
12.0 Swiss_German