Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Results v2 [Archive] - Page 2 - The Apricity Forum: A European Cultural Community

Ion Basescul

10-19-2020, 07:46 PM

I don't think he is russified, Lemgrant gave me his results a year and three months ago, is before I saw all these result posted after this here, and I quickly made a conclusion what he is Gagauz because of results, and because of the surnames, but now since I know more, his result clearly show what he is not Gagauz/Bulgarian with such high Baltic, and have just mixed ancestry.

Yeah, I was going to ask if you thought he's Gagauz/Bulgarian because of the East Med rate. His Baltic+North Atlantic is visibly outlying compared to other Gagauz and Bulgarians.
The first two are Bulgarians, while the rest are Gagauz.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
N_Atlantic+Baltic

22.13
22.19
17.51
12.44
19.22
4.36
0.31
0
1.73
0
0.13
0
0
44.32

24.47
17.09
19.61
13.66
17.82
2.93
2.64
0
0.69
0.81
0.14
0
0.15
41.56

20.35
22.57
20.05
9.76
21.59
1.78
0.52
0.44
0.24
0.71
1.17
0
0.83
42.92

20.86
22.55
19.63
14.32
15.61
1.46
4.07
0
0
0.59
0.90
0
0
43.41

20.32
21.66
19.13
10.98
20.73
4.52
1.73
0.32
0
0.36
0.25
0
0
41.98

21.09
22.41
17.32
15.55
22.11
0.31
0
0
0.39
0.82
0
0
0
43.50

15.86
26.45
18.63
15.05
16.84
2.60
1.10
1.32
0
0
0.66
1.07
0.42
42.31

14.45
25.74
20.64
15.25
19.48
0.73
0.33
0.79
1.82
0.12
0.66
0
0
40.19

20.46
22.27
16.99
12.40
22.03
1.37
0.01
2.46
0.53
0.04
0
1.44
0
42.73

21.35
20.55
16.78
16.18
19.30
2.24
0
0
2.42
0
0.38
0.79
0
41.90

18.87
23.13
16.26
12.63
22.35
3.12
0
0.27
3.12
0
0
0
0.26
42.00

22.03
18.65
16.39
14.57
23.73
2.27
0
0.03
2.08
0
0
0.25
0
40.68

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He seems to fit pretty well in the South Moldovan range.
First two are from Hincesti, but they also fit well in the South.
Brown - Cimislia
Violet - Causeni
Green - Causeni
Dark grey - Eurogenes samples CM2678489 and JR2297171, who we are guessing to be from the South or closer to the Centre
Black - Cahul
Blue - Stefan Voda (Caplani)
Last one - Bolhrad and Ismail Moldovan from Ukraine

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

18.71
29.10
18.39
10.79
14.63
4.48
0
0.85
0
2.02
0.74
0.25
0

23.31
29.55
17.84
7.30
16.55
1.29
1.96
0.80
0.24
0.79
0.35
0
0

21.75
29.53
15.63
11.25
16.39
0.98
1.08
0
3.24
0
0.15
0
0

25.66
20.54
19.38
7.46
19.11
3.14
0
1.73
1.97
0
0.31
0.71
0

24.58
26.99
16.65
9.73
18.18
0.81
0.65
0
0
1.67
0.67
0
0.08

19.73
30.48
16.50
10.45
18.86
0.85
0
1.51
0
0.67
0.95
0
0

19.26
30.07
16.76
10.77
19.17
0.73
0
1.55
0.08
0.73
0.87
0
0

25.52
22.73
18.64
10.79
16.15
1.81
0.56
0.39
1.59
1.43
0.39
0
0

22.29
23.14
18.52
9.30
22.34
0.76
0
0.51
1.65
0.89
0.23
0.38
0

22.37
27.22
20.67
11.29
12.72
2.47
0.35
0
2.30
0.43
0.19
0
0

25.53
21.30
17.70
11.50
17.99
1.44
0.76
1.26
0.73
1.10
0.57
0
0.15

22.73
24.91
19.63
10.59
16.07
1.66
1.38
0.20
1.36
0.94
0.53
0
0

21.01
25.42
16.62
11.92
18.51
4.11
0.58
0
0
0
0.50
0.51
0.82

18.42
25.95
16.17
15.44
17.84
3.82
0.56
0.56
0
1.25
0
0
0

18.27
19.97
19.01
15.32
19.44
4.68
0.12
1.50
0.68
0.54
0
0
0.48

19.84
23.81
19.67
11.16
19.93
3.16
0
0.00
1.21
0.29
0.52
0
0.40

22.08
23.50
19.95
9.57
19.50
3.24
0
1.74
0.34
0
0.08
0
0

16.91
24.06
20.61
12.07
23.58
0
0.52
0
1.03
0
0.29
0.45
0.50

20.23
23.81
21.69
7.85
19.98
3.35
0
0
2.91
0
0.19
0
0

21.08
28.93
14.78
9.89
19.66
4.48
0.57
0.61
0
0
0
0
0

21.23
24.68
15.16
12.29
20.35
3.67
0
0
2.38
0
0.25
0
0

26.39
24.34
17.44
13.21
12.41
4.18
0
0.31
0.71
0
0.89
0
0.12

18.04
26.87
17.24
12.49
19.31
2.99
0.68
0.27
1.35
0.76
0
0
0

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Ion Basescul

10-19-2020, 07:59 PM

I don't think he is russified,

There are some interesting rural mixes in the South. I've posted everything that I had from Moldova on 23andme, which is like 20-30 samples if I am not mistaken. But for MyHeritage, together with my family's matches, I found so far about 90 DNA relatives from Moldova. So I have a lot of data for an interesting thread to look at regional variations. But I won't open it until MyHeritage updates their algorithm later this year, as when compared to GEDmatch it looks like a lot of relevant components for our region are very unstable. And to go back to my first point about mixes in the South, she is from the village of Novotroitcoe or just Troitcoe (https://localitati.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewlocalitate&id=1219) in Cimislia, and ethnically half Moldovan and half Russian. It's hard to guess how she would score exactly on GEDmatch due to the problems that I've mentioned, but I am guessing that like someone from the Centre to North.

Ion Basescul

10-22-2020, 10:34 PM

Half from Republic of Moldova, half from Banat, Romania. His Moldovan side could be Caplani, Stefan Voda-like, because he scores pretty much like Wallachians.

https://i.imgur.com/AslSyte.jpg

v5.2 (https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/i8mwvh/are_my_results_accurate_i_do_not_have_any/)
https://i.imgur.com/KSLComll.png

v5.9
https://i.imgur.com/ER5050b.jpg

Could be a good friend for Aspirin :lol:

My mother is Moldavian, yet I score only 7.1% for EE and all rest for Romania, without traces in any other Balkan countries.

I don't really believe romanians are an ethnicity, so I might be biased. All the balkan populations share a lot of DNA with each other and there wasn't enough time for country-wide ethnicities to form.

The 23andme groups are slightly inaccurate because of this, there's little to no similarity in ancestral lineage between the average romanian and the average Greek, but there is some similarity between romanians and eastern Europeans.

When I lived in Moscow, I could pass as a local so that should say something. Whereas greeks were obvious from a mile away.

Even mainland romanians don't consider each other brothers. Oltenians, Moldovans, Transylvanians, Bucharest people.. they seem to hate each other unfortunately.

Moldovans on average nowadays score pretty highly on ancestral ties to ukrainians and Slavic ethnicities. Their phenotype is also "whiter" than of the average romanian, for example you would also pass as a Russian in Russia, whereas many romanians would draw similarities to Turks on phenotype.

Peterski

10-24-2020, 04:12 PM

Caplani, Stefan Voda

What is the demographic and ethnic history of this area? Was it always Romance-speaking?

Aspirin

10-24-2020, 04:49 PM

What is the demographic and ethnic history of this area? Was it always Romance-speaking?

Between 10th and 14th centuries the area was under control of various turkic nomadic populations (pechenegs, cumans and mongolo-tatars). In second half of 14th century this area became part of Moldavian principality till first half of 16th century. In 1538 vast majority of Budjak was annexed by Ottomans Turks after the big campaign of Suleiman against Moldova. After this, Turks encouraged colonization with plenty of Turkic nomads, especially with plenty of Nogais who came from steppes near Caspian sea who in 17th century formed the so called "Budjak Horde". In late 18th-early 19th century as a results of plenty Russo-Turkish wars Tatars were expelled from here, many moved to Dobrudja, other were colonized by Russians near Caucasus region. In early 19th century when Russian annexed the Eastern half of Moldavian principality, on southern lands annexed by Turks in 16th century they started to invite plenty of colonists from Balkans, especially Bulgarian and Gagauz, but other ethnicites too, like Greeks, Albanians, Ukrainians and local Moldavians from northern areas. Before, in territories controlled by Tatars Moldavians were very few, many moved here from different areas. About Caplani, the name of the village is Turkic and is related to Tatars who lived here, but today inhabitants came in this area in late 18th-early 19th century after Tatars were expelled from here.

Ion Basescul

10-24-2020, 05:19 PM

but today inhabitants came in this area in late 18th-early 19th century after Tatars were expelled from here.

Do we have any records of where in Moldova they came from? I suppose we could look at where their surnames are also found in the country, but that wouldn't necessarily mean that they came from there.

Ion Basescul

11-05-2020, 11:22 AM

About Caplani, the name of the village is Turkic and is related to Tatars who lived here, but today inhabitants came in this area in late 18th-early 19th century after Tatars were expelled from here.

Yeah, not only in Caplani, but generally in the South, people are noticeably less East Asian/Siberian than in the Central and Northern regions. Theoretically it should have been the opposite, due to Steppe migrations and settlements. But the Turkic hints exist in some surnames in Moldova.
In Caplani, there are also some interesting surnames.

https://localitati.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewlocalitate&id=8515

The most popular ones, even being Romanian, they hint at nomadic lifestyles:

Cotorobai - from "to wander" or "to rummage"
Calalb - white horse
Bolozan - DEX says that it comes from Turkish. It's a kind of large ship. "bolozà f. un fel de luntre mare: șapte bolozale și șapte sandale POP. [Vechiu-rom. bolozan = turc. BOLOZAN]. La Brăila-n vale, Șepte bolozale Și șepte sandale. ALECSANDRI, P. P. 116"
Carabulea - "cara" = Turkic "black", Bulea comes from Bulu and it means "zdreanta" or filth

Ion Basescul

11-05-2020, 11:44 AM

A nice visualisation of all the ethnicities from villages, towns and cities in Republic of Moldova, based on the 2004 census. The central region is the most homogeneously Moldovan/Romanian, while both the North and South are heavily mixed and probably assimilated. From North to Centre and South, most villages are ethnically Moldovan/Romanian along the rivers, Prut in the West and Dniester in the East.
When you hear someone claim that Moldovans from Romanian Moldavia are mixed with Wallachians (few if any migrate from the South or West into Moldavia), don't forget to quote this.

Blue - Moldovan/Romanian
Green - Ukrainian
Pink - Russian
Dark Yellow - Gagauz
Orange - Bulgarian
Violet - Roma/Gypsy
Light Yellow - Jewish
Cyan - Polish
Grey - Other

https://etnoistorie.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/moldova_harta-etnica1.png

An update on this map. Despite being labelled as being from 2004 where I grabbed it from, this is clearly not the case. I've just noticed the distribution of Jewish in Chisinau, so this must map must be referencing the ethnic distribution in the country either immediately after WW2 or in 1989.

Ion Basescul

11-24-2020, 06:46 PM

I looked at min and max values (the range) for each component in K13 of people from Republic of Moldova. That was done in order to understand the true diversity of people identifying as Moldovan/Romanian, since a lot of them will obviously be different from the average and diverge either up or down from those values.

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Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

Moldovan_min
16.91 (Stefan Voda)
19.97 (Stefan Voda)
9.74 (Floresti)
5.01 (Anenii Noi)
9.41 (Transnistria)
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0

Moldovan_max
28.97 (Balti)
37.99 (Edinet)
21.69 (Stefan Voda)
15.44 (Stefan Voda)
23.58 (Stefan Voda)
4.68 (Stefan Voda)
3.54 (Balti)
2.47 (Floresti)
3.51 (Balti)
2.61 (Balti)
1.70 (Ungheni)
1.34 (Balti)
1.42 (Soldanesti)

Moldova_avg_weighted
23.44
30.81
15.17
10.15
14.60
1.62
0.99
0.56
1.38
0.56
0.38
0.13
0.21

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Ion Basescul

11-24-2020, 07:03 PM

From Iasi (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.27
30.54
17.17
8.17
14.85
3.25
0
0.06
2.15
1.15
0.39
0
0

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Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0

28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0

20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0

21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69

25.87
26.84
16.97
10.82
15.72
1.10
0.45
0.17
0.89
0
0.85
0
0.32

23.47
21.46
16.35
9.42
19.46
4.83
0.78
1.14
2.38
0
0.52
0
0.19

27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08

24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0

23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

28.33
26.91
14.13
10.44
14.83
1.24
2.53
0
0.96
0.33
0
0
0.30

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Distance to:
Iasi_ind

3.27762109
Moldova_average

3.44463351
Serb_B&H_Krajina

3.52983002
Serb_B&H

3.66529671
Moldova_Centre

3.70881383
Serb_Serbia_West&Central

3.76531539
Serb_Serbia

3.77063655
Serb

3.87445480
Serb

3.92890570
Romania_Moldavia_North

3.99829964
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina

4.04452717
Romania_Maramures

4.10919700
Serb_Croatia_Lika

4.26900457
Bosniak

4.31034801
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina

4.33972349
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija

4.34520425
Serb_Serbia_South&East

4.43450110
Serb_Croatia

4.54709798
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina

4.56054821
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper

4.59736881
Bosniak_Sarajevo

5.20304718
Bosniak_Krajina

5.20702410
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.24780907
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia

5.42022140
Croat_B&H

5.62507778
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

3.27762109
Moldova_average

3.66529671
Moldova_Centru

3.92890570
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.04452717
Romania_Maramures

5.20702410
Romania_Moldova_Sud

6.01291111
Moldova_Nord

6.13969055
Romania_Transilvania

6.29729307
Romania_Crisana

6.48209071
Romania_Moldova_Csango

6.55736990
Romania_Banat

6.92738046
Moldova_Sud

7.32223327
Romania_Oltenia

7.52440695
Romania_Dobrogea

7.56985158
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

7.88092000
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

8.03693349
Romania_Muntenia

9.47710399
Bulgarian

10.78370530
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.62611975
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander

13.01293203
Aromanian_North-Macedonia

16.67228539
Ukrainian_Lviv

16.97816539
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

18.02044949
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

26.60469132
Crimean_Tatar

27.43139807
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

32.17990677
Romania_Jewish

35.08415882
Romania_Roma

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-Moldova
Distance: 232.0279% / 2.32027920
Target: Iasi_ind
51.1 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
23.2 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
20.1 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
5.6 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

-Aromanian, Ukrainian
Distance: 355.4177% / 3.55417668
Target: Iasi_ind
52.4 Romania_Maramures
43.9 Romania_Moldova_Nord
3.7 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

-Maramures
Distance: 368.0659% / 3.68065886
Target: Iasi_ind
79.5 Romania_Moldova_Nord
18.0 Romania_Banat
2.5 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

Ion Basescul

11-24-2020, 07:51 PM

Family run against updated averages

Romania_Muntenia,21.91,24.66,17.54,11.35,18.87,2.1 9,0.72,0.55,1.03,0.59,0.35,0.13,0.10
Romania_Oltenia,23.52,25.05,17.97,10.73,17.82,1.79 ,0.70,0.79,0.69,0.38,0.36,0.10,0.09
Romania_Dobrogea,22.11,24.93,17.64,11.00,18.49,2.2 3,0.71,0.87,1.25,0.37,0.28,0.07,0.06
Romania_Transilvania,24.31,25.97,17.43,10.13,16.98 ,1.84,0.65,0.54,1.04,0.59,0.35,0.07,0.10
Romania_Maramures,24.38,28.43,16.90,9.19,15.65,2.0 6,1.06,0.73,0.75,0.29,0.49,0.05,0.00
Romania_Crisana,25.58,26.36,17.69,9.50,16.32,1.25, 0.82,0.62,0.85,0.59,0.25,0.12,0.06
Romania_Banat,22.75,25.65,17.78,10.71,17.71,2.06,0 .84,0.55,1.21,0.40,0.21,0.07,0.09
Romania_Moldova_Nord,24.59,30.31,15.10,9.37,14.81, 1.70,0.82,0.61,1.30,1,0,0,0
Romania_Moldova_Sud,24.07,26.78,16.97,9.83,16.69,2 .04,0.67,0.54,1.08,0.67,0.39,0.10,0.16
Romania_average,23.10,26.01,17.24,10.49,17.62,1.93 ,0.73,0.68,1.15,0.49,0.35,0.13,0.09

Romania_Jewish,18.26,6.94,18.60,10.32,35.95,5.90,0 .67,0.37,0.82,0.53,0.55,0.92,0.19
Romania_Roma,11.21,10.37,12.59,15.94,18.36,2.33,24 .59,0.67,1.99,0.11,0.99,0.85,0.00
Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar,12.70,25.39,7.77,11.38,5.82 ,2.15,2.09,10.20,20.74,0.91,0.52,0,0.33
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian,28.82,28.63,15.09,8 .19,12.32,1.53,1.2,0.52,2.17,0.73,0.5,0.14,0.11
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely,28.47555556,28.195555 56,15.15916667,8.2125,12.88833333,1.376388889,0.93 7222222,0.889444444,2.439722222,0.765277778,0.2833 33333,0.248611111,0.148333333
Romania_Moldova_Csango,27.24,29.36,15.24,7.75,12.5 3,1.61,1.36,1.45,2.06,0.79,0.44,0.11,0.13
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon,36.95,23.28,17.66,6.80, 11.73,1.51,0.70,0.42,0.11,0.61,0.10,0.01,0.11
Romania_Ukrainian,26.55,37.87,13.11,5.62,11.13,1.4 7,1.30,1.39,0.85,0.15,0.43,0.12,0.00

Moldova_Nord,23.76,34.32,14.70,9.76,12.20,1.53,0.3 3,0.50,1.73,0.48,0.32,0.04,0.32
Moldova_Centru,23.30,30.44,15.09,10.01,14.77,1.87, 1.22,0.60,1.44,0.52,0.38,0.14,0.20
Moldova_Sud,21.68,25.46,18.06,10.91,18.15,2.51,0.4 1,0.61,1.02,0.58,0.39,0.10,0.12
Moldova_average,23.08,30.46,15.56,10.11,14.74,1.91 ,0.82,0.58,1.43,0.52,0.37,0.10,0.22

Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia,19.56,22.60,18.18,13.67,20.38 ,2.04,0.78,0.56,1.06,0.26,0.40,0.36,0.15
Moldova_Jewish,15.89,9.18,17.47,11.48,36.11,6.35,0 .02,1.23,0.37,0.05,0.50,1.33,0.01
Moldova_Ukrainian,26.96,42.56,11.24,6.26,7.97,0.53 ,0.82,0.51,1.35,0.67,0.27,0.50,0.37
Moldova_Bulgarian,23.30,19.64,18.56,13.05,18.52,3. 65,1.48,0.00,1.21,0.41,0.14,0.00,0.08

Crimean_Tatar,13.17,20.04,7.55,16.36,8.88,1.83,3.2 3,10.25,16.40,1.28,0.47,0.27,0.21
Ukrainian_Lviv,27.35,41.85,11.96,7.10,5.29,1.79,1. 20,0.39,1.36,0.82,0.75,0.00,0.13
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk,26.18,38.44,13.89,5.43,1 1.20,1.12,1.13,0.20,1.35,0.50,0.20,0.16,0.21

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_MyHeritage

3.11846116
Moldova_average

3.25053842
Moldova_Centru

3.86539778
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.45554710
Moldova_Nord

5.04804913
Romania_Maramures

5.39937959
Romania_Moldova_Csango

6.33107416
Romania_Moldova_Sud

6.39255884
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

6.52592522
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

6.91711645
Romania_Crisana

7.07968926
Romania_Transilvania

7.35507308
Romania_average

7.79401694
Romania_Banat

8.30643726
Romania_Oltenia

8.51489284
Moldova_Sud

8.81251950
Romania_Dobrogea

9.30627208
Romania_Muntenia

10.34058509
Romania_Ukrainian

10.58872514
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.58113667
Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia

13.28729468
Moldova_Bulgarian

15.00529573
Moldova_Ukrainian

15.05911352
Ukrainian_Lviv

16.19150703
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

24.70853699
Crimean_Tatar

25.93888587
Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar

33.37152229
Moldova_Jewish

34.28487422
Romania_Jewish

34.63264067
Romania_Roma

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_brother_MyHeritage

4.49091305
Moldova_Nord

4.70724973
Moldova_average

4.85384384
Moldova_Centru

5.96441950
Romania_Moldova_Nord

7.22142645
Romania_Maramures

8.37547014
Romania_Moldova_Csango

8.58984866
Romania_Moldova_Sud

9.25890382
Romania_average

9.38398636
Romania_Transilvania

9.44433693
Romania_Crisana

9.56764861
Romania_Banat

9.75029103
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

9.77145332
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

9.97544986
Moldova_Sud

10.26626027
Romania_Ukrainian

10.26942550
Romania_Oltenia

10.30610984
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

10.45119610
Romania_Dobrogea

10.83536340
Romania_Muntenia

13.57479282
Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia

14.32580539
Moldova_Ukrainian

14.53246366
Ukrainian_Lviv

15.34174045
Moldova_Bulgarian

19.42393626
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

25.54307734
Crimean_Tatar

26.57095783
Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar

34.32435287
Romania_Roma

34.53389494
Moldova_Jewish

35.71592922
Romania_Jewish

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_mom_MyHeritage

5.86180859
Moldova_Nord

8.18280514
Moldova_average

8.31579822
Moldova_Centru

8.86507755
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

9.08562601
Romania_Ukrainian

9.11432938
Romania_Moldova_Nord

10.72422958
Romania_Maramures

11.60380972
Romania_Moldova_Csango

12.15101642
Moldova_Ukrainian

12.27404579
Romania_Moldova_Sud

12.93143457
Romania_average

13.11278003
Ukrainian_Lviv

13.17277875
Romania_Transilvania

13.17301788
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

13.18795663
Romania_Crisana

13.20992357
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

13.30354088
Romania_Banat

13.51394465
Moldova_Sud

14.03326049
Romania_Oltenia

14.07484281
Romania_Dobrogea

14.43434100
Romania_Muntenia

17.08660001
Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia

19.67111842
Moldova_Bulgarian

22.86748346
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

28.35037390
Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar

28.37565682
Crimean_Tatar

37.03714082
Moldova_Jewish

37.81935880
Romania_Roma

38.50061168
Romania_Jewish

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_dad_MyHeritage

3.52249911
Moldova_Nord

4.40298762
Moldova_Centru

4.53496417
Moldova_average

4.70236111
Romania_Moldova_Nord

6.41598005
Romania_Moldova_Csango

6.87062588
Romania_Maramures

7.28671394
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

7.37965730
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

8.25674270
Romania_Moldova_Sud

8.65216736
Romania_Crisana

9.02777381
Romania_Transilvania

9.04436841
Romania_Ukrainian

9.13144019
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

9.32000000
Romania_average

9.81475420
Romania_Banat

10.29439653
Romania_Oltenia

10.61630350
Moldova_Sud

10.87040938
Romania_Dobrogea

11.24259756
Romania_Muntenia

13.05212626
Moldova_Ukrainian

13.36573230
Ukrainian_Lviv

14.44264173
Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia

15.39348888
Moldova_Bulgarian

16.97337327
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

26.21613816
Crimean_Tatar

27.28897030
Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar

35.21169408
Moldova_Jewish

35.35768516
Romania_Roma

36.15269699
Romania_Jewish

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

11-24-2020, 08:06 PM

Family run against updated averages

Romania_Muntenia,21.91,24.66,17.54,11.35,18.87,2.1 9,0.72,0.55,1.03,0.59,0.35,0.13,0.10
Romania_Oltenia,23.52,25.05,17.97,10.73,17.82,1.79 ,0.70,0.79,0.69,0.38,0.36,0.10,0.09
Romania_Dobrogea,22.11,24.93,17.64,11.00,18.49,2.2 3,0.71,0.87,1.25,0.37,0.28,0.07,0.06
Romania_Transilvania,24.31,25.97,17.43,10.13,16.98 ,1.84,0.65,0.54,1.04,0.59,0.35,0.07,0.10
Romania_Maramures,24.38,28.43,16.90,9.19,15.65,2.0 6,1.06,0.73,0.75,0.29,0.49,0.05,0.00
Romania_Crisana,25.58,26.36,17.69,9.50,16.32,1.25, 0.82,0.62,0.85,0.59,0.25,0.12,0.06
Romania_Banat,22.75,25.65,17.78,10.71,17.71,2.06,0 .84,0.55,1.21,0.40,0.21,0.07,0.09
Romania_Moldova_Nord,24.59,30.31,15.10,9.37,14.81, 1.70,0.82,0.61,1.30,1,0,0,0
Romania_Moldova_Sud,24.07,26.78,16.97,9.83,16.69,2 .04,0.67,0.54,1.08,0.67,0.39,0.10,0.16
Romania_average,23.10,26.01,17.24,10.49,17.62,1.93 ,0.73,0.68,1.15,0.49,0.35,0.13,0.09

Romania_Jewish,18.26,6.94,18.60,10.32,35.95,5.90,0 .67,0.37,0.82,0.53,0.55,0.92,0.19
Romania_Roma,11.21,10.37,12.59,15.94,18.36,2.33,24 .59,0.67,1.99,0.11,0.99,0.85,0.00
Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar,12.70,25.39,7.77,11.38,5.82 ,2.15,2.09,10.20,20.74,0.91,0.52,0,0.33
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian,28.82,28.63,15.09,8 .19,12.32,1.53,1.2,0.52,2.17,0.73,0.5,0.14,0.11
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely,28.47555556,28.195555 56,15.15916667,8.2125,12.88833333,1.376388889,0.93 7222222,0.889444444,2.439722222,0.765277778,0.2833 33333,0.248611111,0.148333333
Romania_Moldova_Csango,27.24,29.36,15.24,7.75,12.5 3,1.61,1.36,1.45,2.06,0.79,0.44,0.11,0.13
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon,36.95,23.28,17.66,6.80, 11.73,1.51,0.70,0.42,0.11,0.61,0.10,0.01,0.11
Romania_Ukrainian,26.55,37.87,13.11,5.62,11.13,1.4 7,1.30,1.39,0.85,0.15,0.43,0.12,0.00

Moldova_Nord,23.76,34.32,14.70,9.76,12.20,1.53,0.3 3,0.50,1.73,0.48,0.32,0.04,0.32
Moldova_Centru,23.30,30.44,15.09,10.01,14.77,1.87, 1.22,0.60,1.44,0.52,0.38,0.14,0.20
Moldova_Sud,21.68,25.46,18.06,10.91,18.15,2.51,0.4 1,0.61,1.02,0.58,0.39,0.10,0.12
Moldova_average,23.08,30.46,15.56,10.11,14.74,1.91 ,0.82,0.58,1.43,0.52,0.37,0.10,0.22

Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia,19.56,22.60,18.18,13.67,20.38 ,2.04,0.78,0.56,1.06,0.26,0.40,0.36,0.15
Moldova_Jewish,15.89,9.18,17.47,11.48,36.11,6.35,0 .02,1.23,0.37,0.05,0.50,1.33,0.01
Moldova_Ukrainian,26.96,42.56,11.24,6.26,7.97,0.53 ,0.82,0.51,1.35,0.67,0.27,0.50,0.37
Moldova_Bulgarian,23.30,19.64,18.56,13.05,18.52,3. 65,1.48,0.00,1.21,0.41,0.14,0.00,0.08

Crimean_Tatar,13.17,20.04,7.55,16.36,8.88,1.83,3.2 3,10.25,16.40,1.28,0.47,0.27,0.21
Ukrainian_Lviv,27.35,41.85,11.96,7.10,5.29,1.79,1. 20,0.39,1.36,0.82,0.75,0.00,0.13
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk,26.18,38.44,13.89,5.43,1 1.20,1.12,1.13,0.20,1.35,0.50,0.20,0.16,0.21

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_MyHeritage

3.11846116
Moldova_average

3.25053842
Moldova_Centru

3.86539778
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.45554710
Moldova_Nord

5.04804913
Romania_Maramures

5.39937959
Romania_Moldova_Csango

6.33107416
Romania_Moldova_Sud

6.39255884
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

6.52592522
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

6.91711645
Romania_Crisana

7.07968926
Romania_Transilvania

7.35507308
Romania_average

7.79401694
Romania_Banat

8.30643726
Romania_Oltenia

8.51489284
Moldova_Sud

8.81251950
Romania_Dobrogea

9.30627208
Romania_Muntenia

10.34058509
Romania_Ukrainian

10.58872514
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.58113667
Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia

13.28729468
Moldova_Bulgarian

15.00529573
Moldova_Ukrainian

15.05911352
Ukrainian_Lviv

16.19150703
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

24.70853699
Crimean_Tatar

25.93888587
Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar

33.37152229
Moldova_Jewish

34.28487422
Romania_Jewish

34.63264067
Romania_Roma

</tbody>

Merged kit makes me a Hungarian minority from Romania.

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_MyHeritage+23andme+LDNA

3.11831685
Romania_Moldova_Csango

3.24149657
Romania_Moldova_Nord

3.67197495
Moldova_Centru

3.80744008
Moldova_average

3.90656892
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

4.25883787
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

4.46354120
Romania_Maramures

5.51538757
Moldova_Nord

5.73430903
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.87580633
Romania_Crisana

6.44094714
Romania_Transilvania

7.05904384
Romania_average

7.63431071
Romania_Banat

7.93354271
Romania_Oltenia

8.63143094
Moldova_Sud

8.68595994
Romania_Dobrogea

9.26330934
Romania_Muntenia

10.05584904
Romania_Ukrainian

10.50334709
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.92884372
Moldova_Bulgarian

12.95887341
Moldova_Sud_Gagauzia

14.05969061
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

15.19692403
Moldova_Ukrainian

15.39600273
Ukrainian_Lviv

24.86449276
Crimean_Tatar

26.05411292
Romania_Dobrogea_Tatar

32.91449073
Moldova_Jewish

33.63152390
Romania_Jewish

34.92015750
Romania_Roma

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

11-25-2020, 02:33 PM

Interesting random find
This surname exists mainly in one village in R. Moldova and it seems to be linked to Hungarians. Just check where it's spread in Romania. Perhaps a medieval colony?

https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=24797
https://forebears.io/surnames/fabian
https://forebears.io/surnames/f%C3%A1bi%C3%A1n

This is why I say that people even within one village can differ noticeably genetically from one another.

Leto

11-25-2020, 02:55 PM

Romania_Moldova_Nord and Moldova_average are extremely similar.

Ion Basescul

11-25-2020, 07:33 PM

Romania_Moldova_Nord and Moldova_average are extremely similar.

Yes, but Moldova_average, which is weighted by district could be better. I've used averages from what I believe to be similar districts for those where I did not have samples from.

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<colgroup><col style="width: 219px"></colgroup><tbody>
Falesti (in loc de Soroca)

Balti (in loc de Singerei)

Balti(in loc de Drochia)

Orhei (in loc de Criuleni)

Glodeni (in loc de Riscani)

Edinet (in loc de Donduseni)

Orhei (in loc de Dubasari)

Cimislia (in loc de Basarabeasca)

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>

Ion Basescul

11-30-2020, 12:30 AM

Family run against updated averages

Updated averages (old vs. new) and select runs with updated reference list on K13 (top 10)

Averages:

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<tbody>
Reference
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

Original GEDmatch Moldovan (2013, with minorities)
24.45
33.59
14.99
9.79
10.47
1.56
1.29
0.52
1.31
0.78
0.75
0.08
0.41

Old Average Republic of Moldova (June 2020)
23.50
29.88
15.61
9.93
15.16
1.86
0.85
0.62
1.32
0.53
0.41
0.14
0.20

New Average Republic of Moldova (November 2020)
23.08
30.46
15.56
10.11
14.74
1.91
0.82
0.58
1.43
0.52
0.37
0.10
0.22

Old Average Republic of Moldova North (June 2020)
25.89
33.33
14.92
8.89
11.43
1.48
0.65
0.56
1.47
0.35
0.61
0.17
0.26

New Average Republic of Moldova North (November 2020)
23.76
34.32
14.70
9.76
12.20
1.53
0.33
0.50
1.73
0.48
0.32
0.04
0.32

Average Republic of Moldova Centre (September 2020)
23.30
30.44
15.09
10.01
14.77
1.87
1.22
0.60
1.44
0.52
0.38
0.14
0.20

Average Republic of Moldova South (September 2020)
21.68
25.46
18.06
10.91
18.15
2.51
0.41
0.61
1.02
0.58
0.39
0.10
0.12

Old Average Romania Moldavia North (June 2020)
24.60
30.68
15.10
9.25
14.60
1.71
0.73
0.67
1.30
0.61
0.47
0.15
0.11

New Average Romania Moldavia North (November 2020)
24.59
30.31
15.10
9.37
14.81
1.70
0.82
0.61
1.30
0.61
0.50
0.15
0.11

Old Average Romania Moldavia South (September 2020)
24.03
26.54
17.22
9.96
16.58
1.99
0.72
0.54
1.13
0.62
0.40
0.11
0.17

New Average Romania Moldavia South (November 2020)
24.07
26.78
16.97
9.83
16.69
2.04
0.67
0.54
1.08
0.67
0.39
0.10
0.16

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>

Ion Basescul

11-30-2020, 12:42 AM

Runs (test driving the averages):

part 1

Ion Basescul_MyHeritage,23.53,30.47,15.75,11.25,12.26, 1.47,0.66,1.12,2.34,0.10,1.05,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_MyHeritage

3.11846116
Moldova_average

3.25053842
Moldova_Centre

3.86539778
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.25556107
Serb_north

4.28092280
Bosniak_Krajina

4.29585847
Bosniak_Sarajevo

4.32268435
Bosniak

4.45554710
Moldova_North

4.75713149
Serb

4.75734169
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

</tbody>

Ion Basescul_brother_MyHeritage,20.94,32.81,16.13,11.6 9,12.21,0.97,2.06,1.03,1.08,0.54,0.54,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_brother_MyHeritage

4.49091305
Moldova_North

4.70724973
Moldova_average

4.85384384
Moldova_Centre

5.44000000
Bosniak_Sarajevo

5.48571782
Bosniak_Krajina

5.96441950
Romania_Moldavia_North

6.13441929
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

6.20151594
Serb_north

6.23719488
Bosniak

6.26962519
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

</tbody>

Ion Basescul_dad_MyHeritage,24.14,32.44,14.55,11.75,12 .15,0,1.62,0,1.54,0.96,0,0.33,0.51

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_dad_MyHeritage

3.52249911
Moldova_North

4.24185101
Bosniak_Sarajevo

4.36440145
Bosniak_Krajina

4.40298762
Moldova_Centre

4.53496417
Moldova_average

4.67560691
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

4.68123915
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

4.70236111
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.94547268
Bosniak

5.19373661
Serb_north

</tbody>

Ion Basescul_mom_MyHeritage,19.44,37.30,15.60,10.04,13 .19,0.47,0.95,1.49,0.28,0.41,0.82,0,0 (high distance due to mixed Ukrainian/Moldovan ancestry)

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_mom_MyHeritage

5.86180859
Moldova_North

6.87753590
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

7.60333479
Bosniak_Sarajevo

8.07523374
Bosniak_Krajina

8.17120554
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

8.18280514
Moldova_average

8.31579822
Moldova_Centre

8.86507755
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

8.99295836
Bosniak

9.09351967
Serb_north

</tbody>

Zmey_Gorynych_1/2Telenesti_1/2Ialoveni,22.18,33.94,14.38,9.99,13.86,3.05,0,1.21 ,0,0.91,0.49,0,0 (close to both North and Centre, which corresponds to the ancestry split)

<tbody>
Distance to:
Zmey_Gorynych_1/2Telenesti_1/2Ialoveni

3.43304530
Moldova_North

3.87124011
Bosniak_Sarajevo

4.44300574
Moldova_average

4.51522978
Moldova_Centre

4.73319131
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

4.75230470
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

4.97338919
Bosniak_Krajina

5.05800356
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.13190998
Bosniak

5.41781321
Serb_north

</tbody>

Glodeni_S,21.77,34.40,15.61,12.12,9.73,1.40,0,0.83 ,2.20,1.11,0.82,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
Glodeni_S

4.20376022
Moldova_North

6.10993453
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

6.20517526
Bosniak_Krajina

6.73040118
Bosniak_Sarajevo

6.96988522
Moldova_average

7.14756602
Moldova_Centre

7.26419989
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

7.29465558
Croat_East

7.78555072
Romania_Moldavia_North

7.80486387
Bosniak

</tbody>
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Ion Basescul

11-30-2020, 01:05 AM

Runs (test driving the averages):

part 2

Soldanesti_1,22.78,33.73,15.02,8.09,15.57,0.30,0.5 0,0.55,1.55,0.18,0.30,0,1.42

<tbody>
Distance to:
Soldanesti_1

3.84441153
Bosniak_Sarajevo

4.12036406
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

4.29364647
Moldova_North

4.47813577
Moldova_Centre

4.48598930
Moldova_average

4.69193990
Bosniak

4.70129769
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.82448961
Serb_north

4.96136070
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

5.27083485
Croat_Littoral

</tbody>

This guy 1 (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?327651-Moldovan-Romanian-GEDmatch-Results-v2&p=6913797&viewfull=1#post6913797) and 2 (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?327651-Moldovan-Romanian-GEDmatch-Results-v2&p=6913875&viewfull=1#post6913875) (maybe Moldova_North is a bit too Northern since he's at the Northern extremity for the North, both geographically and genetically, and pulls closer to the Moldova_North average than the more balanced people like the guy from Glodeni and Soldanesti).
Briceni_Lipcani,22.85,36.30,13.11,9.12,13.06,1.59, 0,0,2.69,1.27,0,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
Briceni_Lipcani

3.24659822
Moldova_North

4.17876776
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

5.47355460
Croat_East

5.55783231
Bosniak_Sarajevo

6.06364577
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

6.11462182
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

6.53837900
Bosniak_Krajina

6.81428646
Moldova_Centre

6.87852455
Croat_Littoral

6.88622538
Moldova_average

</tbody>

Ocnita_1,25.71,33.18,17.93,8.07,10.11,2.87,0.67,0, 1.40,0,0,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
Ocnita_1

3.37699571
Bosniak_Krajina

4.71677856
Croat_Littoral

4.72461639
Croat

4.78304296
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

4.78322067
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

5.00537711
Bosniak_Sarajevo

5.04639475
Moldova_North

5.15081547
Croat_East

5.37986989
Hungarian_Alföld

5.39173441
Bosniak

</tbody>

1/4 Ukrainian (as opposed to my brother and I, in this case it shows genetically due to high distance to all mono-ethnic averages; similar to my mom's)
Floresti_1,24.07,36.26,9.74,8.78,16.00,1.82,0,2.47 ,0.19,0.54,0.12,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
Floresti_1

6.93085132
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

7.10315423
Moldova_North

7.49439124
Bosniak_Sarajevo

7.50041332
Croat_East

8.03336791
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

8.30858592
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

8.47178848
Romania_Moldavia_North

8.53179348
Moldova_Centre

8.56610180
Croat_Littoral

8.69994828
Bosniak

</tbody>

Balti_13,22.65,36.26,13.43,10.10,11.95,0.03,0.81,0 ,1.38,1.56,0.72,0,1.12

<tbody>
Distance to:
Balti_13

3.40699281
Moldova_North

4.15948314
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

5.82537552
Croat_East

5.90470152
Bosniak_Sarajevo

6.35592637
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

6.41042900
Bosniak_Krajina

6.58600030
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

7.14083328
Moldova_Centre

7.19953471
Croat_Littoral

7.21411810
Moldova_average

</tbody>

Edinet_1,20.49,37.99,14.24,10.49,12.58,1.15,0,0,2. 42,0.33,0,0,0.31 (only Moldovan/Romanian by family knowledge, but could be mixed with Ukrainians due to high distance to mono-ethnic averages; perhaps a distance of 5.1 is not that large?)

<tbody>
Distance to:
Edinet_1

5.11436213
Moldova_North

6.40524785
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

7.75511444
Bosniak_Sarajevo

7.92314963
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

8.20577236
Croat_East

8.28574076
Bosniak_Krajina

8.30635299
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

8.52754361
Moldova_average

8.61318756
Moldova_Centre

9.26853279
Romania_Moldavia_North

</tbody>

Edinet_2,24.08,31.35,16.41,11.30,10.19,2.94,0,0,2. 35,0.23,1.04,0.12,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
Edinet_2

4.36080268
Bosniak_Krajina

4.65620017
Moldova_North

5.30387594
Moldova_average

5.33082545
Bosniak_Sarajevo

5.49553455
Moldova_Centre

5.59187804
Bosniak

5.63939713
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

5.69783292
Serb_north

5.78797028
Romania_Moldavia_North

6.00337405
Croat_Littoral

</tbody>

Balti_6,21.11,32.22,15.74,9.12,16.60,2.12,0,0.81,1 .11,0.03,0,0.93,0.20

<tbody>
Distance to:
Balti_6

3.65905726
Moldova_average

3.90390830
Moldova_Centre

4.71226060
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.90064281
Bosniak_Sarajevo

5.00962074
Serb_north

5.10701478
Serb

5.25043808
Bosniak

5.39874986
Serb_central

5.44933941
Romania_Maramures

5.46139176
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

</tbody>

Ocnita_4,25.95,29.20,17.32,9.88,11.62,2.80,0,1.67, 0.24,0.53,0.73,0,0.06

<tbody>
Distance to:
Ocnita_4

3.94576989
Bosniak_Krajina

4.16338804
Serb_north

4.17166633
Bosniak

4.27160391
Csángó

4.55753223
Serb

4.75766750
Croat_Littoral

4.78407776
Romania_Maramures

4.80020833
Serb_central

4.83045547
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.84418208
Székely

</tbody>

Falesti_2,26.22,34.90,12.85,10.54,10.96,1.08,0.09, 1.83,0,0.52,0.41,0,0.59

<tbody>
Distance to:
Falesti_2

3.44232480
Croat_East

3.56293418
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

4.13069001
Moldova_North

4.88179270
Croat

5.36511882
Bosniak_Sarajevo

5.48552641
Bosniak_Krajina

5.57807314
Hungarian_Alföld

5.65593494
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

5.71320400
Croat_Littoral

6.43025660
Hungarian_Northern

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

11-30-2020, 01:21 AM

Runs (test driving the averages):

part 3

Telenesti_1,25.38,29.74,14.85,10.34,12.30,2.85,1.1 4,0.60,1.35,0.91,0.45,0,0.10

<tbody>
Distance to:
Telenesti_1

3.14652189
Romania_Moldavia_North

3.39506996
Bosniak

3.49932851
Moldova_Centre

3.65271132
Csángó

3.67351330
Moldova_average

3.76891231
Serb_north

3.83607873
Bosniak_Sarajevo

3.93624186
Bosniak_Krajina

4.19206393
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

4.20211851
Székely

</tbody>

Telenesti_2,23.95,32.71,13.95,12.72,11.65,1.60,0.2 1,0.25,2.85,0,0,0,0.10

<tbody>
Distance to:
Telenesti_2

3.73815462
Moldova_North

5.25371297
Moldova_Centre

5.27227655
Moldova_average

5.33671247
Bosniak_Sarajevo

5.50603305
Bosniak_Krajina

5.60177650
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

5.71177731
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.89933895
Croat_East

5.90958543
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

6.12781364
Bosniak

</tbody>

1/2Ungheni_1/2Straseni,25.67,30.44,14.31,11.10,13.20,1.84,0,1.5 4,1.40,0,0.46,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
1/2Ungheni_1/2Straseni

3.18918485
Romania_Moldavia_North

3.54812627
Moldova_Centre

3.55977527
Bosniak

3.68230906
Moldova_average

3.72142446
Bosniak_Sarajevo

3.81840281
Serb_north

4.09070899
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

4.26741139
Croat_Littoral

4.28419187
Bosniak_Krajina

4.36964529
Csángó

</tbody>

Nisporeni_1,25.81,29.74,13.91,8.57,16.77,1.27,1.19 ,0.95,0.49,0.65,0.39,0,0.25 (most mono-ethnically Moldovan/Romanian (https://i.ibb.co/92wdRN5/image.png) district in the country, together with Telenesti)

<tbody>
Distance to:
Nisporeni_1

3.02350790
Romania_Moldavia_North

3.56268157
Serb_central

3.60634164
Bosniak

3.76917763
Serb_north

3.86277103
Serb

3.91171318
Romania_Maramures

3.95993687
Moldova_Centre

4.33376280
Moldova_average

4.43212139
Bosniak_Sarajevo

4.48555459
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

</tbody>

Calarasi_1,25.37,28.72,15.23,10.56,13.75,1.85,1.45 ,0,1.38,0.70,0.74,0,0.26

<tbody>
Distance to:
Calarasi_1

2.68257339
Romania_Moldavia_North

3.03445217
Moldova_Centre

3.23782334
Moldova_average

3.28126500
Romania_Maramures

3.29124596
Serb_north

3.30378571
Serb

3.30848908
Bosniak

3.57621308
Serb_central

4.01331534
Csángó

4.01407524
Székely

</tbody>

Ialoveni_2,21.72,31.59,14.86,9.72,16.73,0.94,2.66, 0,0,0.82,0.8,0,0.15

<tbody>
Distance to:
Ialoveni_2

3.66852832
Moldova_Centre

3.83748616
Moldova_average

4.52349422
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.99666889
Bosniak_Sarajevo

5.06103744
Serb_north

5.13807357
Serb

5.18674272
Bosniak

5.28979206
Romania_Maramures

5.40448888
Serb_central

5.55150430
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

</tbody>

Ialoveni_3,24.49,30.58,15.28,10.52,13.60,0.25,1.34 ,0.91,1.36,0.44,0.29,0,0.96

<tbody>
Distance to:
Ialoveni_3

2.54043303
Moldova_Centre

2.58605878
Romania_Moldavia_North

2.69421603
Moldova_average

3.02866307
Bosniak

3.08094141
Serb_north

3.25944781
Bosniak_Sarajevo

3.54774576
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

3.70652128
Serb

3.82791066
Bosniak_Krajina

4.12916456
Serb_central

</tbody>

AneniiNoi_1,22.19,35.55,15.80,5.01,14.63,1.08,2.73 ,0,1.21,0.49,0.57,0,0.75 (this (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?327651-Moldovan-Romanian-GEDmatch-Results-v2&p=6879503&viewfull=1#post6879503) guy who has a very popular Russian surname, but no knowledge of recent Slavic ancestry in the family; results show that genetically he's mixed though)

<tbody>
Distance to:
AneniiNoi_1

5.95206687
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

6.17434207
Bosniak_Sarajevo

6.27155483
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

6.35509245
Moldova_North

6.55263306
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

7.09122697
Bosniak

7.10608190
Bosniak_Krajina

7.13553782
Croat_Littoral

7.41407445
Serb_north

7.51958111
Moldova_Centre

</tbody>

Straseni_4,23.59,30.86,16.86,8.76,11.85,2.12,2.03, 0.81,0.86,2.26,0,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
Straseni_4

3.39462811
Bosniak_Krajina

3.91292729
Bosniak

3.96002525
Bosniak_Sarajevo

4.09875591
Serb_north

4.12255988
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.17056351
Moldova_average

4.22054499
Moldova_Centre

4.22827388
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

4.70517800
Serb

4.84392403
Croat_Littoral

</tbody>

Ialoveni_1,20.89,32.32,13.89,10.56,15.52,3.55,0,1. 31,1.19,0,0.49,0,0.27

<tbody>
Distance to:
Ialoveni_1

4.01314091
Moldova_average

4.10266986
Moldova_Centre

5.19849978
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.36071824
Bosniak_Sarajevo

5.47318920
Moldova_North

6.02044018
Bosniak

6.05419689
Serb_north

6.25221561
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

6.41290886
Serb

6.50379120
Romania_Maramures

</tbody>

Hincesti_1,23.31,29.55,17.84,7.30,16.55,1.29,1.96, 0.80,0.24,0.79,0.35,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
Hincesti_1

3.04368198
Serb_central

3.09919344
Romania_Maramures

3.16725433
Serb

3.92377369
Serb_north

4.12537271
Serb_south

4.29875563
Romania_Moldavia_South

4.40595052
Bosniak

4.45310004
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.53120293
Moldova_average

4.62218563
Moldova_Centre

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

11-30-2020, 01:34 AM

Runs (test driving the averages):

part 4

Cimislia_1,21.75,29.53,15.63,11.25,16.39,0.98,1.08 ,0,3.24,0,0.15,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
Cimislia_1

3.40338067
Moldova_average

3.53253450
Moldova_Centre

4.55300999
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.75741526
Romania_Maramures

4.85379233
Serb

4.86188235
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.06746485
Romania_average

5.19454522
Serb_south

5.29592296
Serb_central

5.34180681
Romania_Banat

</tbody>

Causeni_1,24.58,26.99,16.65,9.73,18.18,0.81,0.65,0 ,0,1.67,0.67,0,0.08

<tbody>
Distance to:
Causeni_1

2.56355222
Serb_south

2.58897663
Romania_Moldavia_South

2.65139586
Romania_Transylvania

2.92049653
Romania_average

2.94584453
Romania_Crisana

3.29012158
Montenegrin

3.40479074
Romania_Oltenia

3.57734538
Romania_Banat

3.66024589
Bulgaria_Northwestern

3.69327768
Romania_Maramures

</tbody>

StefanVoda_1,21.01,25.42,16.62,11.92,18.51,4.11,0. 58,0,0,0,0.50,0.51,0.82

<tbody>
Distance to:
StefanVoda_1

2.92340555
Bulgaria_Northcentral

2.94648944
Moldova_South

2.96501265
Romania_Muntenia

3.05396464
Bulgaria_average

3.18818130
Romania_Dobruja

3.20251464
Romania_Wallachia

3.32170137
Bulgaria_Northwestern

3.53308647
Bulgaria_Southwestern

3.57879868
Bulgaria_Southcentral

3.67933418
Romania_Banat

</tbody>

StefanVoda_4,19.84,23.81,19.67,11.16,19.93,3.16,0, 0.00,1.21,0.29,0.52,0,0.40

<tbody>
Distance to:
StefanVoda_4

2.51747890
Bulgaria_Southcentral

2.97457560
MacedonianNorth

3.03041251
Bulgaria_average

3.08978964
Bulgaria_Northcentral

3.24240651
Pomak_Nevrokopi

3.54118624
MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE

3.55970504
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

3.56707163
Romania_Muntenia

3.57365359
MacedonianNorthEast

3.62205743
Moldova_South

</tbody>

StefanVoda_10,26.39,24.34,17.44,13.21,12.41,4.18,0 ,0.31,0.71,0,0.89,0,0.12 (very high distance, looks mixed)

<tbody>
Distance to:
StefanVoda_10

6.50259948
Montenegrin

6.63324204
Romania_Crisana

6.63774058
Romania_Transylvania

6.87229947
Romania_Moldavia_South

7.13480203
Romania_average

7.16306499
Romania_Oltenia

7.33313030
Romania_Maramures

7.41732432
Bosniak_Sandzak

7.45366353
Romania_Banat

7.47700475
Pomak_Kavala

</tbody>

Cahul_1,25.52,22.73,18.64,10.79,16.15,1.81,0.56,0. 39,1.59,1.43,0.39,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
Cahul_1

3.44231027
Bosniak_Sandzak

3.47010086
Montenegrin

3.83865862
Romania_Oltenia

3.95049364
Romania_Transylvania

4.18340770
Romania_Crisana

4.25096460
Bulgaria_Southwestern

4.50490843
Romania_average

4.56027411
Romania_Banat

4.75300957
Romania_Wallachia

4.84436786
Romania_Moldavia_South

</tbody>

Cahul_3,22.37,27.22,20.67,11.29,12.72,2.47,0.35,0, 2.30,0.43,0.19,0,0 (very high distance, so looks mixed)

<tbody>
Distance to:
Cahul_3

6.03586779
Romania_Maramures

6.07178722
Romania_Moldavia_South

6.14402962
Romania_Transylvania

6.17341073
Romania_Banat

6.17511943
Romania_average

6.18558001
Serb

6.31633596
Montenegrin

6.35071650
Romania_Crisana

6.48981510
Moldova_South

6.59511941
Romania_Oltenia

</tbody>

Cahul_5,22.73,24.91,19.63,10.59,16.07,1.66,1.38,0. 20,1.36,0.94,0.53,0,0 (very Romanian)

<tbody>
Distance to:
Cahul_5

2.77093847
Romania_Banat

2.84926306
Romania_Oltenia

2.99401069
Bosniak_Sandzak

3.10122556
Romania_average

3.22639117
Montenegrin

3.22790954
Moldova_South

3.23307903
Romania_Transylvania

3.41202286
Romania_Wallachia

3.46411605
Romania_Dobruja

3.62305120
Bulgaria_Southwestern

</tbody>

Gagauz_3,20.32,21.66,19.13,10.98,20.73,4.52,1.73,0 .32,0,0.36,0.25,0,0 (I always knew that Vlachs were native Russian speakers)

<tbody>
Distance to:
Gagauz_3

2.53996063
MacedonianSouthWest

2.69286093
Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander

2.91343440
MacedonianPelagonia

3.28065542
MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE

3.39311067
Vlach(Aromanian)_average

3.43886609
MacedonianWest

3.59949997
MacedonianNorth

3.65516074
Vlach_North-Macedonia

3.67393522
Bulgaria_Southcentral

3.67743117
Bulgaria_Southeastern

</tbody>

Gagauz_8,21.35,20.55,16.78,16.18,19.30,2.24,0,0,2. 42,0,0.38,0.79,0 (close to the Balkan Turks who have little to no East Asian/Siberian and cluster with coastal Bulgarians)

<tbody>
Distance to:
Gagauz_8

3.59742964
Turk_Kavala

4.08366257
Bulgaria_Northeastern

4.19966665
Bulgaria_Southeastern

4.46319392
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

4.99443691
Turk_Stara-Zagora

5.11100773
Turk_Balkan_average

5.46190443
Pomak_Nevrokopi

5.63107450
Pomak_Drama

6.03429366
Turk_Drama

6.04358337
Bulgaria_Southcentral

</tbody>

Gagauz_9,18.87,23.13,16.26,12.63,22.35,3.12,0,0.27 ,3.12,0,0,0,0.26

<tbody>
Distance to:
Gagauz_9

3.44554785
Pomak_average

3.81001312
Pomak_Drama

3.98468317
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

4.07003685
Pomak_Nevrokopi

4.51381214
Bulgaria_Southcentral

4.57451637
Bulgaria_Southeastern

4.64226238
Bulgaria_Northcentral

5.26564336
Bulgaria_average

5.41188507
Vlach(Aromanian)_average

5.42166948
Greek_Northern-Thrace

</tbody>

Old 2013 Eurogenes Moldovan samples that made the original Moldovan average (ancestry not verified by me, but some of them are obvious ethnic minorities and/or very recently mixed with in case of those with high distances)
Eurogenes_CZ7344575,25.76,33.38,14.65,8.61,11.03,1 .75,0.40,1.16,0.95,0,1.62,0,0.69

<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurogenes_CZ7344575

2.86031467
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

2.93429719
Croat_East

3.27623259
Moldova_North

3.37167614
Croat

3.49455290
Bosniak_Krajina

3.69077228
Bosniak_Sarajevo

3.71830607
Croat_Littoral

3.75234593
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

4.23634276
Hungarian_Alföld

4.58501908
Bosniak

</tbody>

Eurogenes_CM2678489,19.73,30.48,16.50,10.45,18.86, 0.85,0,1.51,0,0.67,0.95,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurogenes_CM2678489

5.39980555
Bulgaria_Northwestern

5.59405935
Serb_south

5.85829327
Moldova_average

5.99091813
Pomak_Plovdiv

6.10511261
Moldova_South

6.12321811
Moldova_Centre

6.28775000
Romania_average

6.37704477
Romania_Banat

6.38572627
Turk_N-Macedonia

6.48026234
Romania_Maramures

</tbody>

Eurogenes_ZW2326107,23.34,31.80,14.87,9.75,13.08,2 .00,1.14,0.69,1.50,1.15,0.10,0,0.57

<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurogenes_ZW2326107

2.34309624
Moldova_Centre

2.44014344
Moldova_average

2.50685061
Bosniak_Sarajevo

2.75118156
Romania_Moldavia_North

2.97617204
Moldova_North

3.20242096
Bosniak

3.30387651
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

3.41467422
Bosniak_Krajina

3.56489832
Serb_north

4.32489306
Croat_Littoral

</tbody>

Eurogenes_QY8192067,23.19,31.37,14.95,9.85,13.16,1 .89,1.20,0.37,1.91,1.16,0.12,0,0.84

<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurogenes_QY8192067

2.16686409
Moldova_Centre

2.24991111
Moldova_average

2.72301304
Romania_Moldavia_North

2.96433804
Bosniak_Sarajevo

3.38439064
Bosniak

3.42487956
Moldova_North

3.64487311
Serb_north

3.64921909
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

3.77536753
Bosniak_Krajina

4.38832542
Serb

</tbody>

Eurogenes_JR2297171,19.26,30.07,16.76,10.77,19.17, 0.73,0,1.55,0.08,0.73,0.87,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurogenes_JR2297171

5.31575018
Bulgaria_Northwestern

5.76993934
Serb_south

5.93628672
Moldova_South

5.98157170
Pomak_Plovdiv

6.15410432
Turk_N-Macedonia

6.34042585
Romania_Banat

6.36363890
Romania_average

6.39557660
Romania_Dobruja

6.43627998
Moldova_average

6.49575246
Romania_Muntenia

</tbody>

Eurogenes_JA8090639,22.50,46.16,11.38,8.35,7.16,0, 0,0,1.84,0.57,0.71,0,1.34

<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurogenes_JA8090639

5.34650353
Southwest_Russian

5.59160084
Ukrainian_Belgorod

6.79513797
Ukrainian

7.17357651
Russian

7.35181610
Ukrainian_Lviv

8.33676196
Russian_Smolensk

8.77452563
Estonian_Polish

9.53997379
Polish

9.57459660
South_Polish

9.90281778
Kargopol_Russian

</tbody>

Eurogenes_DN1116786,22.31,39.93,9.28,7.66,7.37,1.0 2,9.10,0,0.98,1.17,0,0,1.13

<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurogenes_DN1116786

10.29051991
Ukrainian_Lviv

11.09772950
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

11.10138280
Ukrainian

11.72077216
Southwest_Russian

11.77313042
Ukrainian_Belgorod

12.16379464
South_Polish

12.44462535
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

12.64193814
Russian

12.77160207
Slovak

13.03501438
Moldova_North

</tbody>

Eurogenes_JR6490623,31.58,45.34,6.36,6.06,4.52,0,1 .13,0,2.48,0.87,0.81,0.85,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurogenes_JR6490623

5.07010848
Polish

5.69788557
Belorussian

5.85649212
Russian_Smolensk

6.08374063
Cossacks_Kuban

6.35714559
Russian

6.43218470
South_Polish

6.45062788
Masurian

6.46043342
Estonian_Polish

6.62668846
Southwest_Russian

6.95997126
Sorb_Lusatia

</tbody>

Eurogenes_GG5842270,24.44,36.05,15.39,10.94,7.53,0 .73,2.03,0,1.21,1.19,0.51,0,0

<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurogenes_GG5842270

5.64156893
Moldova_North

5.64898221
Bosniak_Bosnia_proper

6.51202733
Croat_East

6.84415809
Bosniak_Krajina

7.48530560
Croat

7.51547071
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

7.76306640
Hungarian_Alföld

7.83928568
Bosniak_Sarajevo

8.05418525
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

8.36253550
Croat_Littoral

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

12-02-2020, 10:12 PM

Below quote in Russian is from 1817, so who knows how many Slavs have been assimilated to identify as Moldovan since then. This explains logically why some results are visibly very outlying.
For example I found this village (https://localitati.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewlocalitate&id=6425) today in the Centre of the country, which is 99% Moldovan.
https://i.ibb.co/z6jWr8h/image.png

However among surnames, pure Moldovan ones are less than 10% (blue).
Unsurprisingly, the village is correctly classified as Ukrainian in the map from the Russian Empire's 1897 census

https://i.ibb.co/HF9dc8r/image.png

<tbody>
Nr. Ord.
Nume de familie
Numarul total de familii

1
Gorbatovschi (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=29223)
25

2
Railean (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=53560)
24

3
Panco (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=47918)
22

4
Panico (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=47977)
17

5
Rudei (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=55404)
15

6
Garbatovschi (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=26921)
9

7
Obreja (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=46259)
9

8
Frunze (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=25963)
7

9
Nicolaev (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=45566)
7

10
Cazacu (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=11515)
6

11
Caruta (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=11080)
5

12
Maletchi (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=39832)
5

13
Cobasnean (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=15330)
5

14
Dolghier (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=22506)
5

15
Garbatovscaia (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=26920)
4

16
Cociorva (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=15543)
4

17
Turcan (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=67757)
3

18
Raileanu (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=53563)
3

19
Ursu (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=68320)
3

20
Maletcaia (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=39831)
3

21
Vlas (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=70379)
3

22
Salin (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=56256)
3

23
Frunza (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=25962)
3

24
Cojocari (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=15768)
2

25
Scripcari (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=57922)
2

26
Popa (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=51521)
2

27
Baleanu (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=3252)
2

28
Reghiment (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=54106)
2

29
Sirghi (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=59890)
2

30
Cebanu (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=11798)
2

31
Covcaliuc (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=17865)
2

32
Novojilova (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=46068)
2

33
Lopcic (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=38617)
2

34
Stegarescu (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=62424)
2

35
Gliga (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=28382)
2

36
Dandis (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=20591)
2

37
Bunacalea (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=8678)
2

38
Martin (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=40701)
2

39
Gorbatovscaia (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=29222)
2

40
Panicu (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=47981)
2

41
Panuta (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=48060)
2

42
Gorbatovschii (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=29224)
2

43
Tihon (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=65867)
2

44
Babei (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=2481)
1

45
Caldare (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=9741)
1

46
Gorbotovschi (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=29238)
1

47
Poclitari (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=50679)
1

48
Babina (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=2528)
1

49
Caraus (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=10765)
1

50
Condrea (https://nume.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewnume&id=16392)
1

</tbody>

https://razboiulpentrutrecut.wordpress.com/2014/06/16/moldova-multietnica-dupa-datele-toponimiei-si-antroponimiei-partea-ii/

"Административная русификация Бессарабии совпала по времени с формированием в Пруто-Днестровском междуречье новых зон этнического расселения как пришлых «новоселов», так и природных жителей региона. На юге области селились болгары, гагаузы, немцы, русские, малороссы и евреи, в центре обосновались в основном молдаване, а на севере - молдаване, русины и малороссы. "

https://interaffairs.ru/jauthor/material/2404?fbclid=iwar3vvyrh_pzdlo-vmrwv93e-xvtexq35sz2dld4bqriyubr3xvdx0lswjne

Ion Basescul

12-07-2020, 10:01 PM

Interesting ancestry of an individual from Chisinau. One parent is from Chisinau, and the other one from Cahul, in the German colony of Alexanderfeld (https://localitati.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewlocalitate&id=9414). One German great-grandparent, so pretty irrelevant genetically.
In Soviet times, Alexanderfeld lost most of its German population (was fully German at censuses in 1917 and 1930), and got populated by a mix of Moldovans/Romanians, Ukrainians, Russians, Bulgarians and Gagauzes.

https://i.ibb.co/nDfqzhT/image.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.47
30.26
19.51
6.48
14.94
1.78
1.00
1.63
1.33
0.48
0.78
0.33
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</tbody>
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_ind

5.22061299
Serb

5.28245208
Romania_Maramures

5.35711676
Serb_central

5.61258408
Serb_north

5.73448341
Moldova_average

6.06421471
Moldova_Centre

6.07013179
Bosniak

6.29458497
Romania_Moldavia_North

6.32910736
Serb_south

6.42656985
Romania_Moldavia_South

6.53131687
Bosniak_Sarajevo

6.53274827
Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina

6.64903000
Bosniak_Krajina

6.95297059
Romania_Crisana

7.01059912
Romania_average

7.06775070
Romania_Transylvania

7.28978738
Romania_Banat

7.31315253
Bulgaria_Northwestern

7.32918140
Croat_Littoral

7.57380354
Moldova_South

7.67595597
Montenegrin

7.79218198
Csángó

7.84396583
Romania_Oltenia

8.09173653
Moldova_North

8.15795317
Romania_Dobruja

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_ind

5.73448341
Moldova_average

6.06421471
Moldova_Centre

7.57380354
Moldova_South

8.09173653
Moldova_North

11.77618784
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.12156343
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

13.41437662
Moldova_Bulgarian

17.37135573
Moldova_Ukrainian

17.92296850
Ukrainian_Lviv

19.02433967
Ukrainian

24.87912378
Russian_Smolensk

27.52973847
Crimean_Tatar

28.24234587
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

31.25737673
Moldova_Jewish

31.55303205
Russian_Pinega

34.76425319
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

Distance: 4.5229% / 4.52293855
Target: Chisinau_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.2 Moldova_South
35.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

-Ukrainian_IF
Distance: 4.8568% / 4.85676674
Target: Chisinau_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.0 Moldova_South
24.0 Ukrainian

-Ukrainian, Russian
Distance: 5.3103% / 5.31032198
Target: Chisinau_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.1 Moldova_South
46.9 Moldova_North
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_average
0.0 Moldova_Bulgarian
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_Jewish
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_ind

3.78555148
Moldova_Hincesti

5.63478482
Moldova_Singerei

6.22659618
Moldova_Straseni

6.34116709
Moldova_Ocnita

6.45865311
Moldova_Ialoveni

6.55797225
Moldova_Soldanesti

6.86411684
Moldova_Ungheni

6.89052973
Moldova_Balti

6.94324852
Moldova_Cimislia

7.00510528
Moldova_Chisinau

7.16891903
Moldova_AneniiNoi

7.52578235
Moldova_Causeni

7.55352898
Moldova_Calarasi

7.74594087
Moldova_Nisporeni

8.38504621
Moldova_Cahul

8.62071343
Moldova_Telenesti

8.64819634
Moldova_Edinet

8.84051469
Moldova_Falesti

8.91025252
Moldova_Orhei

9.40558876
Moldova_StefanVoda

9.67369113
Moldova_Leova

9.71812739
Moldova_Glodeni

9.73047789
Moldova_Briceni

10.90199982
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

11.44857633
Moldova_Transnistria

11.58730340
Moldova_Cantemir

11.93008382
Moldova_Rezina

11.96379956
Moldova_Gagauzia

12.17297827
Moldova_Floresti

13.41437662
Moldova_Bulgarian

17.37135573
Moldova_Ukrainian

31.25737673
Moldova_Jewish

34.76425319
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

Leto

12-07-2020, 10:13 PM

Typical Moldovan to me. Also somewhat similar to Chris from Hungary. I wonder what Chris thinks about Moldovans.

Ion Basescul

12-07-2020, 10:20 PM

Typical Moldovan to me. Also somewhat similar to Chris from Hungary. I wonder what Chris thinks about Moldovans.

West Med is a bit elevated though, which is why he gets weird single distance results, but there are cases like this already.

Leto

12-07-2020, 10:23 PM

West Med is a bit elevated though, which is why he gets weird single distance results, but there are cases like this already.
Agree, it's almost 20%. Vbnetkhio who is a Serb scores the same amount.

superjelly40

12-08-2020, 12:36 AM

104433

Here are my gedmatch results. As far as I know, all my family including great grandparents are from Ialoveni district. Not too sure if these are typical for that region.

Aspirin

12-08-2020, 12:56 AM

104433

Here are my gedmatch results. As far as I know, all my family including great grandparents are from Ialoveni district. Not too sure if these are typical for that region.

Can you post your K15 results too?

superjelly40

12-08-2020, 01:03 AM

Sure

104435

Aspirin

12-08-2020, 10:02 AM

Sure

104435

Thanks. Are all your ancestors ethnic Moldovans or you have and foreign ancestors (Russian/Ukrainians) too?

This is how you plot on K15 map.

https://sun9-15.userapi.com/R7804T0gzSctUjUB91bztw7SXrohwo1hVpHVng/5t7_8ksul64.jpg

Jana

12-08-2020, 10:12 AM

104433

Here are my gedmatch results. As far as I know, all my family including great grandparents are from Ialoveni district. Not too sure if these are typical for that region.

here is your updated K13 (closest populations)

5.69365436 Bosniak_Krajina
5.94565387 Csángó
6.14401335 Hungarian_Transylvania
6.40647329 Székely
6.68384620 Bosniak
6.76263262 Serb_north
7.00371330 Croat_Littoral
7.08727733 Serb
7.18429537 Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina
7.19572790 Romania_Moldavia_North
7.23221958 Bosniak_Sarajevo
7.27041952 Romania_Maramures
7.32105184 Moldova_average
7.38494414 Serb_central
7.40040539 Moldova_Centre
7.47630925 Croat
7.75168369 Hungarian_Alföld
7.95479101 Moldova_North
8.10226512 Romania_Crisana
8.17809880 Hungarian
8.26667406 Croat_East
8.37652673 Bosniak_Bosnia_proper
8.44649632 Romania_Moldavia_South
8.51502789 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.85353037 Romania_Transylvania

Ion Basescul

12-08-2020, 10:35 AM

104433

Here are my gedmatch results. As far as I know, all my family including great grandparents are from Ialoveni district. Not too sure if these are typical for that region.

Hi, welcome to the club, although you seem to have been here for a bit, that's the first time that I see you posting. Your results are typical for Moldova and particularly the Central region.

Here is how other people with all of their recent ancestry in Ialoveni district score on K13.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

20.89
32.32
13.89
10.56
15.52
3.55
0
1.31
1.19
0
0.49
0
0.27

21.72
31.59
14.86
9.72
16.73
0.94
2.66
0
0
0.82
0.8
0
0.15

24.49
30.58
15.28
10.52
13.60
0.25
1.34
0.91
1.36
0.44
0.29
0
0.96

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The sample size is very small, so obviously not that representative of the real diversity there. This is why it's wiser to look at the Central region as a whole for this.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.97
34.84
12.39
7.67
12.05
0.73
0.44
0
1.37
0
0.51
0.71
0.34

25.38
29.74
14.85
10.34
12.30
2.85
1.14
0.60
1.35
0.91
0.45
0
0.10

23.95
32.71
13.95
12.72
11.65
1.60
0.21
0.25
2.85
0
0
0
0.10

24.14
32.44
14.55
11.75
12.15
0
1.62
0
1.54
0.96
0
0.33
0.51

21.68
26.21
19.78
10.56
18.48
1.17
0
0.30
0.83
0
1.00
0
0

18.73
29.21
15.46
10.82
21.13
0.92
0.39
0
0.68
0.23
1.70
0
0.72

25.67
30.44
14.31
11.10
13.20
1.84
0
1.54
1.40
0
0.46
0
0

20.97
28.32
16.75
15.15
13.12
1.01
1.75
1.32
0
0.79
0.30
0
0.52

22.09
27.18
15.47
11.01
18.69
2.49
0
0.50
1.91
0.65
0
0
0

25.81
29.74
13.91
8.57
16.77
1.27
1.19
0.95
0.49
0.65
0.39
0
0.25

25.37
28.72
15.23
10.56
13.75
1.85
1.45
0
1.38
0.70
0.74
0
0.26

25.38
29.74
19.64
9.19
8.90
3.29
0.87
0
2.48
0.50
0
0
0

23.18
29.71
14.61
10.27
18.19
1.01
0.63
0
1.18
0.69
0.52
0
0

24.27
30.45
14.67
11.96
10.87
2.75
3.05
0
1.96
0
0
0
0

23.59
30.86
16.86
8.76
11.85
2.12
2.03
0.81
0.86
2.26
0
0
0

23.53
30.47
15.75
11.25
12.26
1.47
0.66
1.12
2.34
0.10
1.05
0
0

20.94
32.81
16.13
11.69
12.21
0.97
2.06
1.03
1.08
0.54
0.54
0
0

23.81
23.27
14.12
11.32
20.34
2.44
1.16
0
1.02
1.44
0
0.50
0.58

26.90
26.30
15.40
9.64
13.58
4.18
0.45
1.13
0.97
0.36
1.07
0
0

19.22
31.56
14.31
7.79
20.80
2.34
2.05
0.39
0.46
1.08
0
0
0

22.18
33.94
14.38
9.99
13.86
3.05
0
1.21
0
0.91
0.49
0
0

20.89
32.32
13.89
10.56
15.52
3.55
0
1.31
1.19
0
0.49
0
0.27

21.72
31.59
14.86
9.72
16.73
0.94
2.66
0
0
0.82
0.8
0
0.15

24.49
30.58
15.28
10.52
13.60
0.25
1.34
0.91
1.36
0.44
0.29
0
0.96

22.19
35.55
15.80
5.01
14.63
1.08
2.73
0
1.21
0.49
0.57
0
0.75

18.71
29.10
18.39
10.79
14.63
4.48
0
0.85
0
2.02
0.74
0.25
0

23.31
29.55
17.84
7.30
16.55
1.29
1.96
0.80
0.24
0.79
0.35
0
0

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You definitely fit among them.

Ion Basescul

12-08-2020, 10:55 AM

<tbody>
Distance to:
superjelly40

4.64217621
Moldova_Straseni

5.83738811
Moldova_Calarasi

5.93174511
Moldova_Telenesti

5.96706796
Moldova_Ocnita

6.51710058
Moldova_Ialoveni

7.11625604
Moldova_Orhei

7.18171289
Moldova_Transnistria

7.51399361
Moldova_Chisinau

7.52366267
Moldova_Balti

7.88719849
Moldova_Singerei

8.22253611
Moldova_Glodeni

8.24588382
Moldova_Edinet

8.58175390
Moldova_Hincesti

8.78994881
Moldova_Falesti

9.38255296
Moldova_Nisporeni

9.41808898
Moldova_Cimislia

9.46467643
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

9.52456823
Moldova_Ungheni

9.53019937
Moldova_Briceni

9.95842859
Moldova_Cahul

10.08584652
Moldova_Causeni

10.15444730
Moldova_Rezina

10.22057239
Moldova_Soldanesti

11.46579696
Moldova_AneniiNoi

12.48945155
Moldova_StefanVoda

13.67972587
Moldova_Cantemir

13.77503539
Moldova_Bulgarian

13.91789855
Moldova_Floresti

14.69709495
Moldova_Leova

15.21787107
Moldova_Gagauzia

16.24243516
Moldova_Ukrainian

35.00151140
Moldova_Roma

35.18086270
Moldova_Jewish

</tbody>

Top 10 individuals

<tbody>
Distance to:
superjelly40

2.88310596
Moldova_30_Straseni

4.09084343
Moldova_4_Ocnita

4.63449026
Moldova_8_Edinet

4.88785229
Moldova_36_Balti

4.97528894
Moldova_20_Telenesti

5.03309050
Moldova_45_Balti

5.17327749
Moldova_32_Straseni

5.20201884
Moldova_33_Straseni

5.35764874
Moldova_1_Ocnita

5.38106867
Moldova_84_Chisinau

</tbody>

Distance: 4.4077% / 4.40773536
Target: superjelly40 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.0 Moldova_Straseni
30.0 Moldova_Transnistria
13.0 Moldova_Cahul

-Transnistria
Distance: 4.6377% / 4.63767687
Target: superjelly40 | ADC: 0.25x RC
94.8 Moldova_Straseni
5.2 Moldova_Ocnita

superjelly40

12-08-2020, 12:18 PM

Thanks. Are all your ancestors ethnic Moldovans or you have and foreign ancestors (Russian/Ukrainians) too?

This is how you plot on K15 map.

https://sun9-15.userapi.com/R7804T0gzSctUjUB91bztw7SXrohwo1hVpHVng/5t7_8ksul64.jpg

Yes, they're all ethnic Moldovan I believe, at least as far as I have researched. As well as the town which all my known ancestors come from is something like 99.5% Moldovan/ Romanian ethnically. So basically I'm very Moldovan lol.

superjelly40

12-08-2020, 12:19 PM

here is your updated K13 (closest populations)

5.69365436 Bosniak_Krajina
5.94565387 Csángó
6.14401335 Hungarian_Transylvania
6.40647329 Székely
6.68384620 Bosniak
6.76263262 Serb_north
7.00371330 Croat_Littoral
7.08727733 Serb
7.18429537 Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina
7.19572790 Romania_Moldavia_North
7.23221958 Bosniak_Sarajevo
7.27041952 Romania_Maramures
7.32105184 Moldova_average
7.38494414 Serb_central
7.40040539 Moldova_Centre
7.47630925 Croat
7.75168369 Hungarian_Alföld
7.95479101 Moldova_North
8.10226512 Romania_Crisana
8.17809880 Hungarian
8.26667406 Croat_East
8.37652673 Bosniak_Bosnia_proper
8.44649632 Romania_Moldavia_South
8.51502789 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
8.85353037 Romania_Transylvania

Intresting, seems it likes to plot me with Hungarians.

superjelly40

12-08-2020, 12:32 PM

Hi, welcome to the club, although you seem to have been here for a bit, that's the first time that I see you posting. Your results are typical for Moldova and particularly the Central region.

Here is how other people with all of their recent ancestry in Ialoveni district score on K13.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

20.89
32.32
13.89
10.56
15.52
3.55
0
1.31
1.19
0
0.49
0
0.27

21.72
31.59
14.86
9.72
16.73
0.94
2.66
0
0
0.82
0.8
0
0.15

24.49
30.58
15.28
10.52
13.60
0.25
1.34
0.91
1.36
0.44
0.29
0
0.96

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The sample size is very small, so obviously not that representative of the real diversity there. This is why it's wiser to look at the Central region as a whole for this.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.97
34.84
12.39
7.67
12.05
0.73
0.44
0
1.37
0
0.51
0.71
0.34

25.38
29.74
14.85
10.34
12.30
2.85
1.14
0.60
1.35
0.91
0.45
0
0.10

23.95
32.71
13.95
12.72
11.65
1.60
0.21
0.25
2.85
0
0
0
0.10

24.14
32.44
14.55
11.75
12.15
0
1.62
0
1.54
0.96
0
0.33
0.51

21.68
26.21
19.78
10.56
18.48
1.17
0
0.30
0.83
0
1.00
0
0

18.73
29.21
15.46
10.82
21.13
0.92
0.39
0
0.68
0.23
1.70
0
0.72

25.67
30.44
14.31
11.10
13.20
1.84
0
1.54
1.40
0
0.46
0
0

20.97
28.32
16.75
15.15
13.12
1.01
1.75
1.32
0
0.79
0.30
0
0.52

22.09
27.18
15.47
11.01
18.69
2.49
0
0.50
1.91
0.65
0
0
0

25.81
29.74
13.91
8.57
16.77
1.27
1.19
0.95
0.49
0.65
0.39
0
0.25

25.37
28.72
15.23
10.56
13.75
1.85
1.45
0
1.38
0.70
0.74
0
0.26

25.38
29.74
19.64
9.19
8.90
3.29
0.87
0
2.48
0.50
0
0
0

23.18
29.71
14.61
10.27
18.19
1.01
0.63
0
1.18
0.69
0.52
0
0

24.27
30.45
14.67
11.96
10.87
2.75
3.05
0
1.96
0
0
0
0

23.59
30.86
16.86
8.76
11.85
2.12
2.03
0.81
0.86
2.26
0
0
0

23.53
30.47
15.75
11.25
12.26
1.47
0.66
1.12
2.34
0.10
1.05
0
0

20.94
32.81
16.13
11.69
12.21
0.97
2.06
1.03
1.08
0.54
0.54
0
0

23.81
23.27
14.12
11.32
20.34
2.44
1.16
0
1.02
1.44
0
0.50
0.58

26.90
26.30
15.40
9.64
13.58
4.18
0.45
1.13
0.97
0.36
1.07
0
0

19.22
31.56
14.31
7.79
20.80
2.34
2.05
0.39
0.46
1.08
0
0
0

22.18
33.94
14.38
9.99
13.86
3.05
0
1.21
0
0.91
0.49
0
0

20.89
32.32
13.89
10.56
15.52
3.55
0
1.31
1.19
0
0.49
0
0.27

21.72
31.59
14.86
9.72
16.73
0.94
2.66
0
0
0.82
0.8
0
0.15

24.49
30.58
15.28
10.52
13.60
0.25
1.34
0.91
1.36
0.44
0.29
0
0.96

22.19
35.55
15.80
5.01
14.63
1.08
2.73
0
1.21
0.49
0.57
0
0.75

18.71
29.10
18.39
10.79
14.63
4.48
0
0.85
0
2.02
0.74
0.25
0

23.31
29.55
17.84
7.30
16.55
1.29
1.96
0.80
0.24
0.79
0.35
0
0

</tbody>
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You definitely fit among them.

How do people from centre differ from say those from the north and south on average?

Aspirin

12-08-2020, 01:07 PM

Your results are typical for Moldova and particularly the Central region.

Typical with only 9% East Med (considering what he is from Centra-Southern part of the country)?

Ion Basescul

12-08-2020, 01:12 PM

How do people from centre differ from say those from the north and south on average?

North (especially from Balti upwards) and South around Gagauzia and along the bordering with Ukraine settlements are mixed to some extent. This is very clear from surnames among Moldovans in that area, and in some cases it is also visible from genetic results.
There are also villages with notable ethnic presence sprinkled randomly here and there.

But if we disregard some of the considerably outlying individuals in the North and South, then the difference between regions is small, but logical, with a North to South genetic gradient that corresponds to the geography. It is important to note however, that there is a problem with my data in that samples from the South are few and not diversified. Most of them come from a single village in Stefan Voda district (Caplani) and 4 of those from Cahul are members of the same family.

Samples from North

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Origin
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

_Ocnita
25.71
33.18
17.93
8.07
10.11
2.87
0.67
0
1.40
0
0
0
0

_Ocnita
27.82
33.86
14.65
5.86
12.83
0
0.56
1.14
0.51
1.49
0.26
1.01
0

_Ocnita
23.63
32.50
17.85
7.85
14.19
0
0.87
1.52
0
1.42
0.18
0
0

_Ocnita
25.95
29.20
17.32
9.88
11.62
2.80
0
1.67
0.24
0.53
0.73
0
0.06

_Briceni
25.05
32.68
12.58
12.66
13.32
0.16
0.10
1.33
0.85
0.70
0
0.23
0.35

_Briceni
22.85
36.30
13.11
9.12
13.06
1.59
0
0
2.69
1.27
0
0
0

_Edinet
20.49
37.99
14.24
10.49
12.58
1.15
0
0
2.42
0.33
0
0
0.31

_Edinet
24.08
31.35
16.41
11.30
10.19
2.94
0
0
2.35
0.23
1.04
0.12
0

_Glodeni
21.77
34.40
15.61
12.12
9.73
1.40
0
0.83
2.20
1.11
0.82
0
0

_FR_1/4Ukrainian
24.07
36.26
9.74
8.78
16.00
1.82
0
2.47
0.19
0.54
0.12
0
0

_Balti
28.97
31.72
14.36
5.12
13.53
2.10
0.74
1.39
1.35
0
0.72
0
0

_Balti
25.72
33.02
15.85
7.24
11.12
2.58
1.28
0.51
1.65
0
0.68
0.36
0

_Singerei
25.81
33.39
14.59
8.56
11.04
1.78
0.45
1.13
0.97
0
1.61
0
0.68

_Singerei
19.29
30.14
16.78
10.68
19.18
0.74
0
1.61
0.06
0.67
0.87
0
0

_Singerei
23.18
31.34
14.97
9.87
13.15
1.89
1.16
0.39
1.93
1.14
0.15
0
0.83

_Soldanesti
22.78
33.73
15.02
8.09
15.57
0.30
0.50
0.55
1.55
0.18
0.30
0
1.42

_1/2FL_1/2Chisina
24.90
34.32
14.54
5.42
14.28
2.29
1.58
0
2.07
0
0.34
0
0.25

_Falesti
26.22
34.90
12.85
10.54
10.96
1.08
0.09
1.83
0
0.52
0.41
0
0.59

_Balti
24.58
31.08
13.08
6.06
16.71
3.33
1.41
0
2.32
1.43
0
0
0

_Balti
22.22
35.15
17.59
12.03
7.30
1.37
1.25
1.49
0
0.81
0.09
0.42
0.28

_Balti
26.86
31.42
17.53
9.84
10.26
0
0
0.55
1.85
1.00
0.14
0.11
0.45

_Balti
21.11
32.22
15.74
9.12
16.60
2.12
0
0.81
1.11
0.03
0
0.93
0.20

_Balti
27.89
28.60
15.36
10.43
13.25
0.43
0
0.20
3.51
0
0.33
0
0

_Balti
26.74
30.55
12.91
10.08
14.54
0.86
1.10
0.20
2.93
0
0.09
0
0

_Balti
24.50
30.63
15.90
8.79
15.10
0
0.38
0.09
1.22
0.93
1.08
0
1.38

_Balti
24.09
32.64
12.57
7.50
13.82
1.08
3.54
0
2.17
0.86
0.88
0.49
0.36

_Balti
26.10
29.55
15.22
10.17
15.75
0
1.18
1.62
0
0.39
0
0.02
0

_Balti
23.29
32.20
12.93
7.08
18.01
0.79
1.47
0
0.85
2.61
0
0
0.77

_Balti
22.65
36.26
13.43
10.10
11.95
0.03
0.81
0
1.38
1.56
0.72
0
1.12

_Balti
25.83
27.54
16.04
11.41
12.98
2.80
1.24
0
1.25
0.00
0.91
0
0

_Balti
28.04
32.24
15.49
6.59
13.52
1.22
0.08
0
2.23
0.42
0.17
0
0

_Balti
23.81
34.31
12.54
6.21
16.13
1.21
2.19
0.86
2.42
0
0.30
0
0

_Balti
24.72
27.82
17.45
10.27
13.86
0
3.07
0
2.47
0
0.34
0
0

_Balti
18.18
36.07
14.32
12.57
10.84
2.87
0.06
1.99
1.21
0
0.70
0.65
0.55

_Balti
23.47
32.69
13.87
7.89
16.16
0
1.20
0
3.13
0
0.55
1.03
0

_Balti
24.56
31.94
17.63
6.74
13.24
0.97
2.04
0.68
0.94
0
0.60
0
0.66

_Balti
23.13
36.19
11.05
9.44
16.58
0
1.15
0
1.84
0.16
0
0
0.45

_Balti
27.74
31.59
13.10
6.73
15.41
2.30
1.12
0.97
0
0.66
0
0.38
0

_Balti
24.22
25.35
14.14
12.99
16.10
4.36
0.31
1.40
0.72
0
0.42
0
0

_Balti
24.09
34.13
11.71
8.79
14.63
3.51
1.25
0
1.51
0.07
0
0
0.30

_Balti
25.19
33.48
11.17
9.90
12.99
1.06
2.56
0
3.06
0
0.60
0
0

_Balti
27.62
29.15
13.57
8.81
13.32
3.43
2.95
0.30
0.37
0
0.47
0
0

_Balti
23.97
26.63
13.49
7.19
17.21
1.94
4.59
0.98
1.67
0.20
0.53
1.34
0.27

_Balti
27.07
28.68
13.68
9.21
14.50
2.21
0.92
0
1.47
1.46
0.34
0
0.46

_Balti
22.03
33.01
13.83
8.75
17.44
0.67
0.97
0.00
2.96
0
0.34
0
0

_Balti
24.52
36.71
16.02
7.75
10.27
0.89
1.08
0.72
2.03
0
0
0
0

_Balti
23.73
36.03
14.19
4.12
16.63
0.20
1.20
0
3.24
0
0.67
0
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Samples from South

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<tbody>
Origin
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

_Cimislia
21.75
29.53
15.63
11.25
16.39
0.98
1.08
0
3.24
0
0.15
0
0

_Leova
20.92
28.56
14.80
9.67
22.16
0.86
1.64
0
0.64
0
0
0
0.75

_Cantemir
25.66
20.54
19.38
7.46
19.11
3.14
0
1.73
1.97
0
0.31
0.71
0

_Causeni
24.58
26.99
16.65
9.73
18.18
0.81
0.65
0
0
1.67
0.67
0
0.08

_Cahul
25.52
22.73
18.64
10.79
16.15
1.81
0.56
0.39
1.59
1.43
0.39
0
0

_Cahul
22.29
23.14
18.52
9.30
22.34
0.76
0
0.51
1.65
0.89
0.23
0.38
0

_Cahul
22.37
27.22
20.67
11.29
12.72
2.47
0.35
0
2.30
0.43
0.19
0
0

_Cahul
25.53
21.30
17.70
11.50
17.99
1.44
0.76
1.26
0.73
1.10
0.57
0
0.15

_Cahul
22.73
24.91
19.63
10.59
16.07
1.66
1.38
0.20
1.36
0.94
0.53
0
0

_StefanVoda
21.01
25.42
16.62
11.92
18.51
4.11
0.58
0
0
0
0.50
0.51
0.82

_StefanVoda
18.42
25.95
16.17
15.44
17.84
3.82
0.56
0.56
0
1.25
0
0
0

_StefanVoda
18.27
19.97
19.01
15.32
19.44
4.68
0.12
1.50
0.68
0.54
0
0
0.48

_StefanVoda
19.84
23.81
19.67
11.16
19.93
3.16
0
0.00
1.21
0.29
0.52
0
0.40

_StefanVoda
22.08
23.50
19.95
9.57
19.50
3.24
0
1.74
0.34
0
0.08
0
0

_StefanVoda
16.91
24.06
20.61
12.07
23.58
0
0.52
0
1.03
0
0.29
0.45
0.50

_StefanVoda
20.23
23.81
21.69
7.85
19.98
3.35
0
0
2.91
0
0.19
0
0

_StefanVoda
21.08
28.93
14.78
9.89
19.66
4.48
0.57
0.61
0
0
0
0
0

_StefanVoda
21.23
24.68
15.16
12.29
20.35
3.67
0
0
2.38
0
0.25
0
0

_StefanVoda
26.39
24.34
17.44
13.21
12.41
4.18
0
0.31
0.71
0
0.89
0
0.12

_Bugeac
18.04
26.87
17.24
12.49
19.31
2.99
0.68
0.27
1.35
0.76
0
0
0

</tbody>
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Ion Basescul

12-08-2020, 01:22 PM

Typical with only 9% East Med (considering what he is from Centra-Southern part of the country)?

Te focusezi prea mult pe un singur component, si trebuie sa te uiti la imagine in ansamblu. Asta se refera la orice calculator, deoarece niciunul dintre ele nu-i perfect.
Da, are putin East Med chiar si pentru extremul nord. Cineva cu doar 9% East Med nu poate sa fie moldovan neamestecat recent. Insa el nu are doar 9% East Med, ci si alte componente East Med-like care-s cu mult mai sudice, cum ar fi 3% Red Sea si 1% North African. Plus la asta are West Med umflat la 18%, ceea ce iarasi probabil indica ca ar trebui sa fie impartit mai uniform intre West si East. In realitate are vreo 16% East Med daca ar fi sa estimez. Asta de fapt si-i cauza pentru fit-ul prost, deoarece celelalte componente is distribuite tipic. Sunt cazuri de genul asta si ele urmaresc acelasi pattern, fie West Med-ul e umflat sau Red Sea cu North African. Daca pur si simplu East Med-ul e jos, impreuna cu celelalte atunci aceasta deja ar putea sa indice amestec recent slavic.

Ion Basescul

12-08-2020, 01:33 PM

Superjelly, poti sa ne arati rezultatele Eurogenes K36?

superjelly40

12-08-2020, 01:52 PM

Superjelly, poti sa ne arati rezultatele Eurogenes K36?

104443

Ion Basescul

12-08-2020, 03:16 PM

104443

Este un tool care iti arata asemanarea genetica fata de alte popoare din lume, dar trebuie sa tii cont de faptul ca media pentru Moldova e proasta. Pe langa moldoveni, contine si minoritati slave, deci sa nu te surprinda prea tare distanta. Din ce imi pare mie, rezultatele iti sunt destul de tipice.

https://i.ibb.co/ykx2BXp/Superjelly40-Ialoveni.png

Eu cu K36 nu prea m-am jucat, asa ca am doar rezultatele familiei mele daca vrei sa compari.

Eu
https://i.ibb.co/MB1sq7Q/Dorkymon-K36-Similarity-Merged-All.png

Frate
https://i.ibb.co/sjCLwNW/Dorkymon-Brother-K36-Similarity.png

Mama
https://i.ibb.co/PYgVy2f/Dorkymon-Mom-K36-Similarity.png

Tata
https://i.ibb.co/p6H1kg2/Dorkymon-Dad-K36-Similarity.png

<tbody>
Population
Region
IonBasescul
Superjelly
Frate
Mama
Tata

Amerindian
East Asia

0.33

0.53

Arabian
West Asia

1.17

Armenian
Caucasus
6.50
0.69
4.91
4.44
2.78

Basque
West Med
1.88
3.12
2.49
1.35
1.39

Central_African

Central_Euro
Central Euro
10.86
8.15
8.95
7.23
10.74

East_African

East_Asian
East Asia
1.90

East_Balkan
Southeast Euro
8.13
10.52
10.98
7.44
14.29

East_Central_Asian
East Asia

East_Central_Euro
East Euro
14.07
9.68
16.47
19.05
15.01

East_Med
East Med
2.98
0.50
1.21

Eastern_Euro
East Euro
9.07
11.61
11.8
8.35
12.99

Fennoscandian
North Euro
5.17
4.97
3.32
7.27
1.56

French
West Med
4.21
5.51
5.66
3.52
6.68

Iberian
West Med
6.29
15.40

2.36
6.12

IndoChinese
East Asia

Italian
Med
7.62
10.16
9.8
8.16
10.36

Malayan
East Asia

0.65
0.64

Near_Eastern
West Asia
1.70
4.88
2.76
4.24

North_African

North_Atlantic
NW Euro
3.69
3.94
6.99
5.05
5.02

North_Caucasian
Caucasus
2.35
4.15
3.95
4.94
5.94

North_Sea
NW Euro
8.57

3.77
9.61
2.7

Northeast_African

Oceanian

0.09

Omotic

Pygmy

0.55

Siberian
East Asia

South_Asian
West Asia

0.16

South_Central_Asian
East Asia

0.09
1.14

0.23

South_Chinese
East Asia

VolgaUral
East Asia
1.35
1.03

1.35
0.77

West_African

West_Caucasian
Caucasus
1.82
1.81
2.18
1.66
2.34

West_Med
West Med
1.82
2.46
2.61
3.25

</tbody>

Consolidate in sub-regiuni

<tbody>
Region
IonBasescul
Superjelly
Frate
Mama
Tata

East+Central Euro
34.00
29.44
37.22
34.63
38.74

Southeast+Med Euro
32.93
47.67
32.75
26.08
38.84

Northwest Euro
17.43
8.91
14.08
21.93
9.28

Caucasus
10.67
6.65
11.04
11.04
11.06

East Asia
3.25
1.28
2.12
2.08
1.53

West Asia
1.70
6.05
2.76
4.24
0

</tbody>

Consolidate in macro-regiuni

<tbody>
Region
IonBasescul
Superjelly
Frate
Mama
Tata

North Euro
51.43
38.35
51.30
56.56
48.02

South Euro
32.93
47.67
32.75
26.08
38.84

Caucasus+West Asia
12.37
12.70
13.80
15.28
11.06

East Asia/Siberia
3.25
1.28
2.12
2.08
1.53

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

12-08-2020, 03:36 PM

104443

Ce rezultate ti-a aratat compania cu care te-ai testat?

Leto

12-08-2020, 03:46 PM

South-Central Asia is Afghanistan and Volga-Ural is Chuvash/Tatar, so they are not "East Asian".

Ion Basescul

12-08-2020, 03:52 PM

South-Central Asia is Afghanistan and Volga-Ural is Chuvash/Tatar, so they are not "East Asian".

I wanted to keep them in few categories, rather than spread too thin, since they do not hold significant percentages anyway. I'm not sure about South-Central Asia. I thought it's something like Kyrgyz to Tadjik.

superjelly40

12-08-2020, 03:59 PM

Ce rezultate ti-a aratat compania cu care te-ai testat?

23andme, shows a little bit of mongol/tatar I assume but other than that fairly normal.

104455

Aspirin

12-08-2020, 04:08 PM

23andme, shows a little bit of mongol/tatar I assume but other than that fairly normal.

104455

Yes, the Steppe-Nomad influence many times appear under Central Asian component on 23andme, but on Gedmatch your mongoloid influence is very low.

Ion Basescul

12-08-2020, 04:10 PM

23andme, shows a little bit of mongol/tatar I assume but other than that fairly normal.

104455

That's normal for Moldova, I am impressed that they assigned Ialoveni to you as the first choice.

Ion Basescul

12-12-2020, 11:13 AM

23andme, shows a little bit of mongol/tatar I assume but other than that fairly normal.

104455

I saw your results and photos on r/23andme. You look Russian af. Another good example for Aspirin, who daydreamed of villagers from Caplani, Stefan Voda to be like Ukrainians genetically due to how they looked. But nope, phenotype is more complex and cannot be explained accurately with autosomal DNA. I've got tens of examples from Moldova like that, and it's nice to see yet another one.

Leto

12-12-2020, 12:21 PM

Aspirin

12-12-2020, 12:57 PM

You look Russian af.

He don't look Russian, but he is very northern for region where exist many bulgaroid like indivuduals genetically.

Ion Basescul

12-12-2020, 01:00 PM

He don't look Russian, but he is very northern for region where exist many bulgaroid like indivuduals genetically.

Maybe to you, but I'd guess him as Russian on the streets. He looks way more East Slavic than your father for example, whom you mentioned looking atypical for Moldovan, but I didn't agree with. Maybe we saw different pics.

Ion Basescul

12-12-2020, 01:14 PM

A Moldovan/Khokhol mix

Do you know where the Moldovan and Ukrainian parts come from? Is the Ukrainian ancestry confirmed by them?

Leto

12-12-2020, 01:16 PM

Do you know where the Moldovan and Ukrainian parts come from? Is the Ukrainian ancestry confirmed by them?
A Moldovan sounding name (a few hundred carriers in the country according to Forebears) and a Ukrainian email address plus the results themselves suggest it.

Aspirin

12-12-2020, 01:25 PM

Maybe to you, but I'd guess him as Russian on the streets. He looks way more East Slavic than your father for example, whom you mentioned looking atypical for Moldovan, but I didn't agree with. Maybe we saw different pics.

Nah, my father really look very Russian, his features Russians find very familiar, paternal grandfather looks even more.

Leto

12-12-2020, 01:28 PM

That guy looks pretty Eastern European too, I agree. Nothing Mediterranean or Zlatan-Ibrahimovic-like (or whatever an exaggerated Balkanoid person is supposed to look like). Neither stereotypically Romanian (not too familiar with Romanians in detail but I'm sure he's not the case).

Ion Basescul

12-12-2020, 01:51 PM

A Moldovan sounding name (a few hundred carriers in the country according to Forebears) and a Ukrainian email address plus the results themselves suggest it.

Older or more old-fashioned Moldovans can have mail.ru and the likes, but if the address is Ukrainian then this is probably someone native to Ukraine, but obviously mixed.

Leto

12-12-2020, 01:56 PM

Older or more old-fashioned Moldovans can have mail.ru and the likes, but if the address is Ukrainian then this is probably someone native to Ukraine, but obviously mixed.
Perhaps.
I'm still waiting for the Ivano-Frankovsk Dodecad by the way :p

superjelly40

12-13-2020, 12:35 AM

I saw your results and photos on r/23andme. You look Russian af. Another good example for Aspirin, who daydreamed of villagers from Caplani, Stefan Voda to be like Ukrainians genetically due to how they looked. But nope, phenotype is more complex and cannot be explained accurately with autosomal DNA. I've got tens of examples from Moldova like that, and it's nice to see yet another one.

Surprisingly, I've never had Russian before. I've had central Europe a lot but most people find me very hard to specifically place. It's interesting how much phenotype varies in Moldova, especially for such a small country.

Ion Basescul

12-13-2020, 11:03 AM

Surprisingly, I've never had Russian before. I've had central Europe a lot but most people find me very hard to specifically place. It's interesting how much phenotype varies in Moldova, especially for such a small country.

You are probably talking about your experience from abroad. I also lived in England for a couple of years and people there are just notoriously bad at guessing, especially considering that most don't know where Moldova is. I got guessed as everything under the sun personally.

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<tbody>
Assumed my Ethnicity as
Guesser's Ethnicity
Country of Guess

Hungarian
English
UK

Portuguese
Portuguese
UK

Ukrainian
Ukrainian
UK

Russian
Italian
UK

Russian
Bulgarian
UK

Polish
Cypriot
UK

Polish
English
UK

Moldovan
Moldovan
UK

Greek
English
UK

English
Romanian
UK

French
English
UK

Jewish
Black British
UK

Polish
Black British
UK

Ukrainian
Polish
UK

Hungarian
Hungarian
Hungary

Italian
Bulgarian
Bulgaria

French
French
Bulgaria

Russian
Bulgarian
Bulgaria

Bulgarian
Bulgarian
Bulgaria

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
If we were in Chisinau however, there obviously aren't any other Central Europeans here, so the closest population that I would associate with you is Russian. But there are certainly plenty of Moldovans with your look, and your case shows that one does not need to have any recent non-Moldovan ancestry for this phenotype to manifest itself. It's simply not among the most common ones.

Ion Basescul

12-13-2020, 11:40 AM

Surprisingly, I've never had Russian before. I've had central Europe a lot but most people find me very hard to specifically place. It's interesting how much phenotype varies in Moldova, especially for such a small country.

On another note, you might not be aware that I have a thread on 23andme results from Moldova and Romania. You can check it out here (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?315214-Post-autosomal-DNA-results-of-people-from-Romania-and-Republic-of-Moldova). Bear in mind, however, that all those results are from the previous version of the algorithm, 5.2 (October 2019 to pre-October 2020). I think that you were tested on the current version, which is 5.9. I cannot see the new ones yet, as 23andme has not updated it for older chips like mine.

Ion Basescul

12-13-2020, 01:34 PM

I ran conditional formatting on my family's results to see the high and low values for each component.

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<colgroup><col style="width: 249px"><col width="68"><col width="39"><col width="66"><col width="73"><col width="63"><col width="55"><col width="78"><col width="70"><col width="54"><col width="74"><col width="60"><col width="74"><col width="80"></colgroup><tbody>
Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

IonBasescul_MyHeritage
23.53
30.47
15.75
11.25
12.26
1.47
0.66
1.12
2.34
0.10
1.05
0
0

IonBasescul_brother_MyHeritage
20.94
32.81
16.13
11.69
12.21
0.97
2.06
1.03
1.08
0.54
0.54
0
0

IonBasescul_mom_MyHeritage
19.44
37.30
15.60
10.04
13.19
0.47
0.95
1.49
0.28
0.41
0.82
0
0

IonBasescul_dad_MyHeritage
24.14
32.44
14.55
11.75
12.15
0
1.62
0
1.54
0.96
0
0.33
0.51

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Same as above, but now also with all Apricity users from Moldova and my merged kit.

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Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

IonBasescul_MyHeritage
23.53
30.47
15.75
11.25
12.26
1.47
0.66
1.12
2.34
0.10
1.05
0
0

IonBasescul_brother_MyHeritage
20.94
32.81
16.13
11.69
12.21
0.97
2.06
1.03
1.08
0.54
0.54
0
0

IonBasescul_mom_MyHeritage
19.44
37.30
15.60
10.04
13.19
0.47
0.95
1.49
0.28
0.41
0.82
0
0

IonBasescul_dad_MyHeritage
24.14
32.44
14.55
11.75
12.15
0
1.62
0
1.54
0.96
0
0.33
0.51

Zmey_Gorynych_?
22.18
33.94
14.38
9.99
13.86
3.05
0
1.21
0
0.91
0.49
0
0

superjelly40_23andme
25.90
28.78
18.11
10.36
9.02
2.97
1.81
0
1.34
0.67
0
1.04
0

IonBasescul_Merged
25.47
29.48
15.06
9.86
12.89
1.53
0.63
1.83
2.85
0
0.40
0
0

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Ion Basescul

12-15-2020, 07:07 PM

A Moldovan/Khokhol mix

North_Atlantic 26.16 Pct
Baltic 36.14 Pct
West_Med 14.89 Pct
West_Asian 6.94 Pct
East_Med 9.6 Pct
Red_Sea 2.34 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.04 Pct
Amerindian 2.15 Pct
Oceanian 0.75 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Distance to: GretaR
4.07251765 Croat_East
4.13842965 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
4.81888991 Croat
5.07222831 Hungarian_Alföld
5.32122166 Hungarian_Northern
5.32820795 Moldova_North
5.89043588 Slovak
6.10833856 Hungarian
6.18180394 Slovenian
6.22127800 Croat_Littoral
6.22487751 Croat_north
6.39161951 Croat_Bosnia&Herzegovina
6.49221842 Bosniak
6.72098207 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
7.98094606 Csángó
8.06161274 Ukrainian_Lviv
8.08768199 Moldova_Ukrainian
8.23148225 Serb_north
8.54128796 Romania_Moldavia_North
8.68822191 Czech

Distance: 1.1976% / 1.19756526
Target: GretaR | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.4 Ukrainian_Lviv
29.4 Croat_East
17.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
7.2 Moldova_North
4.8 Sardinia
1.6 Mayan

Distance: 1.9178% / 1.91781138
Target: GretaR | ADC: 0.5x RC
26.8 Hungarian_Alföld
26.4 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
24.5 Moldova_North
20.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
1.7 Mayan

This kit is half West Ukrainian and half Moldovan/Romanian from R. Moldova. On the Ukrainian side there's also Polish admix, while on the Moldovan they are not sure if one great-grandparent was also Moldovan because of the Slavic-specific forename, which still looks pretty Moldovan to me since there are 3.8k of such names in the country. Judging by the K13 results, she scores close to the average of people that I know who are half Moldovan and half Slavic, be it Ukrainian or Russian.

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Name
Number of Samples
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic
16
25.01
36.69
13.81
8.71
9.85
1.41
1.18
0.55
1.56
0.58
0.43
0.08
0.15

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Leto

12-15-2020, 07:16 PM

Good. My presumed description was right.

Funny how she's Moldovan and Western Ukrainian, yet still speaks Russian. They all do when necessary. When not they will pretend they can't.

Leto

12-15-2020, 07:25 PM

Ion Basescul

12-15-2020, 07:46 PM

Ion Basescul

12-15-2020, 07:58 PM

On Dodecad she's actually only a tiny bit more Southern than the new IF average

Distance to: Greta
3.61124632 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
4.34044929 Hungarians
5.48805977 Croat
5.80293029 Bosnian
5.95837226 MD_North
6.03537903 Slovenian
7.20156233 Slovak
8.65603835 Czech
9.58618798 MD_Center
9.66181142 HUN_Szekely

Distance: 2.0817% / 2.08173896
Target: Greta | ADC: 0.25x RC
96.1 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
3.9 Kuwait2

Here's a run with selected components on K13.

<tbody>
Distance to:
1/2Ukr_1/2Mold_ind

4.13842965
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

5.32820795
Moldova_North

5.89043588
Slovak

8.06161274
Ukrainian_Lviv

8.08768199
Moldova_Ukrainian

9.05240852
Moldova_Centre

9.10338948
Moldova_average

9.53528710
Ukrainian

12.93278392
Polish

14.19628825
Ukrainian_Belgorod

15.36988939
Moldova_South

18.93099575
Pomak_average

20.10164421
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

39.83273026
Moldova_Jewish

40.76253550
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

Distance: 2.6250% / 2.62497851
Target: 1/2Ukr_1/2Mold_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.5 Moldova_North
28.0 Slovak
19.1 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
8.4 Ukrainian_Lviv

If I remove IF and Slovak
Distance: 2.5786% / 2.57858253
Target: 1/2Ukr_1/2Mold_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.5 Ukrainian_Lviv
33.5 Moldova_South
0.0 Moldova_average
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_Jewish
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
0.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
0.0 Polish
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod

If I remove Moldova_South, since the surname is more specific to Centre-North
Distance: 2.8454% / 2.84544669
Target: 1/2Ukr_1/2Mold_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.7 Moldova_average
26.7 Polish
18.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_Jewish
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod

Fits like a glove ;)

Leto

12-15-2020, 08:02 PM

Transcarpathian oblast, Ivano-Frankovsk (at least the southern part if not the capital city) and Chernovtsy might be more or less identical (obviously including minor or individual variations).

Ion Basescul

12-16-2020, 10:06 AM

104433

Here are my gedmatch results. As far as I know, all my family including great grandparents are from Ialoveni district. Not too sure if these are typical for that region.

I have another result from Ialoveni district. This person was previously labelled from Chisinau, where he is from, but I got in touch and both parents were born in the village of Costesti in Ialoveni.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.90
26.30
15.40
9.64
13.58
4.18
0.45
1.13
0.97
0.36
1.07
0
0

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Compared to others from Ialoveni

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

20.89
32.32
13.89
10.56
15.52
3.55
0
1.31
1.19
0
0.49
0
0.27

21.72
31.59
14.86
9.72
16.73
0.94
2.66
0
0
0.82
0.8
0
0.15

24.49
30.58
15.28
10.52
13.60
0.25
1.34
0.91
1.36
0.44
0.29
0
0.96

25.90
28.78
18.11
10.36
9.02
2.97
1.81
0
1.34
0.67
0
1.04
0

</tbody>
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K13 updated

<tbody>
Distance to:
Ialoveni_ind

6.22421079
Moldova_Centre

6.31411118
Moldova_average

7.81831184
Moldova_South

9.23477666
Moldova_North

10.33842348
Moldova_Bulgarian

11.97528288
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

13.61058779
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

18.33901579
Ukrainian_Lviv

18.43107430
Moldova_Ukrainian

20.06644463
Ukrainian

25.60454452
Russian_Smolensk

26.31358964
Crimean_Tatar

28.36498546
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

30.61110419
Moldova_Jewish

33.00260946
Russian_Pinega

34.03793472
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

+Romania

<tbody>
Distance to:
Ialoveni_ind

4.45332930
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

4.77410725
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

4.80035415
Romania_Maramures

4.84909270
Romania_Moldova_Csango

4.92512944
Romania_Crisana

5.09849978
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.40303618
Romania_Transilvania

5.59581093
Romania_Moldova_Nord

6.22421079
Moldova_Centre

6.31411118
Moldova_average

6.39452109
Romania_average

6.72671539
Romania_Oltenia

6.87792847
Romania_Banat

7.77464469
Romania_Dobrogea

7.81831184
Moldova_South

8.24916359
Romania_Muntenia

9.23477666
Moldova_North

10.33842348
Moldova_Bulgarian

11.66916021
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

11.97528288
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

13.03883047
Romania_Ukrainian

13.61058779
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

18.33901579
Ukrainian_Lviv

18.43107430
Moldova_Ukrainian

20.06644463
Ukrainian

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Distance: 5.6941% / 5.69412376
Target: Ialoveni_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.5 Moldova_South
23.5 Ukrainian_Lviv

Ion Basescul

12-16-2020, 10:13 AM

del

Ion Basescul

12-16-2020, 10:26 AM

I have another result from Ialoveni district. This person was previously labelled from Chisinau, where he is from, but I got in touch and both parents were born in the village of Costesti in Ialoveni.

My merged kit (23andme + LivingDNA + MyHeritage) follows a similar pattern by the way, where it inflates North Atlantic and gives me Hungarians as close populations.

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Number of Samples
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
NE+NW Euro
Med Euro
Caucasus
SW Asia
Siberia
India

Eu_Merged
25.47
29.48
15.06
9.86
12.89
1.53
0.63
1.83
2.85
0
0.40
0
0
54.95
27.95
9.86
1.53
4.68
0.63

Eu_MyHeritage
23.53
30.47
15.75
11.25
12.26
1.47
0.66
1.12
2.34
0.10
1.05
0
0
54.00
28.01
11.25
1.47
3.56
0.66

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Eu_Merged

3.11831685
Romania_Moldova_Csango

3.24149657
Romania_Moldova_Nord

3.67197495
Moldova_Centre

3.80744008
Moldova_average

3.90656892
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

4.25883787
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

4.46354120
Romania_Maramures

5.51538757
Moldova_North

5.73430903
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.87580633
Romania_Crisana

6.44094714
Romania_Transilvania

7.05904384
Romania_average

7.63431071
Romania_Banat

7.93354271
Romania_Oltenia

8.63143094
Moldova_South

8.68595994
Romania_Dobrogea

9.26330934
Romania_Muntenia

10.05584904
Romania_Ukrainian

10.50334709
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.92884372
Moldova_Bulgarian

12.95887341
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

14.05969061
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

15.19692403
Moldova_Ukrainian

15.39600273
Ukrainian_Lviv

16.86707444
Ukrainian

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Eu_MyHeritage

3.11846116
Moldova_average

3.25053842
Moldova_Centre

3.86539778
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.45554710
Moldova_North

5.04804913
Romania_Maramures

5.39937959
Romania_Moldova_Csango

6.33107416
Romania_Moldova_Sud

6.39255884
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

6.52592522
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

6.91711645
Romania_Crisana

7.07968926
Romania_Transilvania

7.35507308
Romania_average

7.79401694
Romania_Banat

8.30643726
Romania_Oltenia

8.51489284
Moldova_South

8.81251950
Romania_Dobrogea

9.30627208
Romania_Muntenia

10.34058509
Romania_Ukrainian

10.58872514
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.58113667
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

13.28729468
Moldova_Bulgarian

15.00529573
Moldova_Ukrainian

15.05911352
Ukrainian_Lviv

16.19150703
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

16.63650204
Ukrainian

</tbody>

The guy from above is tested on MyHeritage however, so that does not occur because of the company the test was conducted with. It seems that sometimes K13 struggles with North Atlantic to Baltic differentiation. This is similar to how I noticed happens with East Med and Red Sea in some cases. Some users receive an abnormally low East Med and that gets compensated with an abnormally high Red Sea and in some cases also North African.

Ion Basescul

12-16-2020, 12:45 PM

Run against the full K13 ancients spreadsheet for Apricity users from Moldova + my family. I think it's pretty consistent. We are pretty much all the same mix of ancient people, but in varying proportions. Mind you, the algorithm picks them out of a total of nearly 1800 samples. That's kind of sick, if you think about it.

Distance: 1.2470% / 1.24704308
Target: IonBasescul_MyHeritage | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.9 Hungary_AV1_Avar_1361_ybp
24.8 Moldova_scy301_SG_Scythian_SG
21.4 Ukraine_Budjak_MJ12_Thraco_Cimmerian
11.0 Hungary_I3528_Bell_Beaker_EBA_4300_ybp
5.6 Kazakhstan_Scythian_Pazyryk_IA_Be9
4.1 Russia_Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a
1.2 Hungary_DA195_Scythian.SG_2553_ybp

Distance: 0.7026% / 0.70260832
Target: IonBasescul_brother_MyHeritage | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.5 Ukraine_MJ14_West_Scythian_R1a_Z645
30.3 Hungary_I4131_Bell_Beaker_EBA_4289_ybp
15.2 Ukraine_Budjak_MJ12_Thraco_Cimmerian
9.9 Russia_Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a
2.1 Kazakhstan_Scythian_Pazyryk_IA_Be9

Distance: 2.7200% / 2.72002616
Target: IonBasescul_mom_MyHeritage | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.7 Russia_Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a
18.4 Italy_R128_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial
17.5 Ukraine_MJ14_West_Scythian_R1a_Z645
9.4 Ukraine_Budjak_MJ12_Thraco_Cimmerian

Distance: 0.8725% / 0.87254478
Target: IonBasescul_dad_MyHeritage | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.9 Hungary_AV1_Avar_1361_ybp
24.5 Ukraine_Budjak_MJ12_Thraco_Cimmerian
16.5 Moldova_scy301_SG_Scythian_SG
10.1 Ukraine_MJ14_West_Scythian_R1a_Z645

Distance: 1.6545% / 1.65448286
Target: ZmeyGorynych | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.1 Hungary_AV1_Avar_1361_ybp
28.4 Ukraine_Budjak_MJ12_Thraco_Cimmerian
16.4 Kazakhstan_Scythian_Pazyryk_IA_Be11
10.7 Ukraine_MJ14_West_Scythian_R1a_Z645
4.4 Italy_R128_Lazio_Frosinone_Roman_Imperial

Distance: 1.1928% / 1.19282218
Target: superjelly40 | ADC: 0.25x RC
25.2 Czechia_I4137_Early_Slav_dup.I4137.SG_1235_ybp
17.4 Bulgaria_I2165_EBA_4908_ybp
15.9 Ukraine_MJ16_West_Scythian_J2a
14.2 Hungary_I4131_Bell_Beaker_EBA_4289_ybp
11.8 Bulgaria_I1113_MP_N_7983_ybp
11.7 Hungary_AV1_Avar_1361_ybp
3.8 Russia_Siberia_Scythian_Aldy-Bel_IA_A17

superjelly40

12-16-2020, 04:57 PM

I have another result from Ialoveni district. This person was previously labelled from Chisinau, where he is from, but I got in touch and both parents were born in the village of Costesti in Ialoveni.

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<tbody>
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.90
26.30
15.40
9.64
13.58
4.18
0.45
1.13
0.97
0.36
1.07
0
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Ialoveni

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<tbody>
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

20.89
32.32
13.89
10.56
15.52
3.55
0
1.31
1.19
0
0.49
0
0.27

21.72
31.59
14.86
9.72
16.73
0.94
2.66
0
0
0.82
0.8
0
0.15

24.49
30.58
15.28
10.52
13.60
0.25
1.34
0.91
1.36
0.44
0.29
0
0.96

25.90
28.78
18.11
10.36
9.02
2.97
1.81
0
1.34
0.67
0
1.04
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
K13 updated

<tbody>
Distance to:
Ialoveni_ind

6.22421079
Moldova_Centre

6.31411118
Moldova_average

7.81831184
Moldova_South

9.23477666
Moldova_North

10.33842348
Moldova_Bulgarian

11.97528288
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

13.61058779
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

18.33901579
Ukrainian_Lviv

18.43107430
Moldova_Ukrainian

20.06644463
Ukrainian

25.60454452
Russian_Smolensk

26.31358964
Crimean_Tatar

28.36498546
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

30.61110419
Moldova_Jewish

33.00260946
Russian_Pinega

34.03793472
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

+Romania

<tbody>
Distance to:
Ialoveni_ind

4.45332930
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

4.77410725
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

4.80035415
Romania_Maramures

4.84909270
Romania_Moldova_Csango

4.92512944
Romania_Crisana

5.09849978
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.40303618
Romania_Transilvania

5.59581093
Romania_Moldova_Nord

6.22421079
Moldova_Centre

6.31411118
Moldova_average

6.39452109
Romania_average

6.72671539
Romania_Oltenia

6.87792847
Romania_Banat

7.77464469
Romania_Dobrogea

7.81831184
Moldova_South

8.24916359
Romania_Muntenia

9.23477666
Moldova_North

10.33842348
Moldova_Bulgarian

11.66916021
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

11.97528288
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

13.03883047
Romania_Ukrainian

13.61058779
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

18.33901579
Ukrainian_Lviv

18.43107430
Moldova_Ukrainian

20.06644463
Ukrainian

</tbody>
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Distance: 5.6941% / 5.69412376
Target: Ialoveni_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.5 Moldova_South
23.5 Ukrainian_Lviv

Wow no way, all my grandparents are from that exact village.

Ion Basescul

12-16-2020, 10:55 PM

Wow no way, all my grandparents are from that exact village.

You are really close genetically from the looks of it. The main difference is that he gets more East Med, whereas you get more West Med. By the way, I suggest using the "one-to-many" option on GEDmatch. You might be related to some of them, given that you have roots in the same or nearby locations.

Ion Basescul

12-17-2020, 12:26 AM

I have received two kits today. First one is a very close DNA relative to the two Moldovan Romas from Calarasi at 110 cM. They must share a great-grandparent according to this relation. The individual comes from Nisporeni, which is next to Calarasi.
The second one is a match with my dad on MyHeritage. He is mostly from the town of Falesti, but with one grandparent from Rotunda, Edinet.

Ion Basescul

12-17-2020, 12:36 AM

I have received two kits today. First one is a very close DNA relative to the two Moldovan Romas from Calarasi at 110 cM. They must share a great-grandparent according to this relation. The individual comes from Nisporeni, which is next to Calarasi.

So this person is 3/4 Moldovan/Romanian (Ukrainian surname though) and 1/4 Roma.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

23.49
24.40
12.37
14.79
14.91
0.89
7.38
0
0.45
0.08
0.70
0.55
0

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Compared to others from Nisporeni

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

25.81
29.74
13.91
8.57
16.77
1.27
1.19
0.95
0.49
0.65
0.39
0
0.25

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Compared to 1/4 Romas from Romania (Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.37
26.35
16.45
10.62
14.45
2.01
6.21
0.08
0.61
1.61
0.24
0
0

21.11
23.39
15.82
9.89
19.74
0.46
6.38
1.82
0
0
0
0.50
0.88

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Compared to 1/4 Romas from Romania (Transylvania)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.93
22.95
16.48
8.26
18.21
0
5.05
0
0.07
0
0
0.06
0

18.19
21.53
21.75
11.09
12.85
4.53
5.60
1.74
0.78
1.08
0.85
0
0

24.61
24.85
14.65
7.44
17.47
1.07
5.22
0
1.24
1.53
1.8
0
0.11

25.22
26.76
12.3
8.24
16.72
2.55
6.04
0.79
0.76
0
0.49
0.15
0

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Compared to 1/4 Romas from Romania (Wallachia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

20.93
19.56
16.69
12.50
19.92
0
7.18
0.38
0.97
0.69
1.18
0
0

21.11
23.39
15.82
9.89
19.74
0.46
6.38
1.82
0
0
0
0.50
0.88

29.28
21.27
14.73
11.29
14.10
1.28
6.17
1.30
0
0.36
0
0
0.21

23.43
21.88
17.13
12.11
14.38
1.85
7.25
0.80
0.25
0.40
0.32
0
0.20

21.38
22.95
14.20
10.70
17.85
1.72
7.21
1.14
0.92
0.12
1.10
0
0.72

18.37
22.88
16.36
14.05
20.80
0.57
4.22
0.89
0.77
0
1.10
0
0

20.21
20.07
18.69
15.80
14.96
0.63
6.24
0.97
0.51
1.42
0.46
0
0

20.65
17.70
17.56
11.00
20.91
0.66
7.70
0.97
1.94
0
0.26
0.26
0.37

24.61
24.85
14.65
7.44
17.47
1.07
5.22
0
1.24
1.53
1.80
0
0.11

25.22
26.76
12.30
8.24
16.72
2.55
6.04
0.79
0.76
0
0.49
0.15
0

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They are all very diverse mixes, but the individual fits within this 1/4 Roma variety.

K13 updated

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Distance to:
Nisporeni_ind

10.36987464
Moldova_Centre

10.71415419
Moldova_South

10.72022854
Moldova_average

10.99118283
Moldova_Bulgarian

11.37389555
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

13.75574789
Moldova_North

18.67163089
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

22.55955673
Moldova_Ukrainian

22.62968846
Ukrainian_Lviv

23.80665243
Crimean_Tatar

24.26897402
Ukrainian

25.73258440
Moldova_Roma

27.91503000
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

29.23819420
Russian_Smolensk

29.35923024
Moldova_Jewish

35.99883792
Russian_Pinega

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+Regional 1/4 Roma averages

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Distance to:
Nisporeni_ind

5.89392908
Romania_Transylvania_1/4Roma

6.66190663
Romania_Wallachia_1/4Roma

6.94097976
Romania_Moldavia_1/4Roma

10.36987464
Moldova_Centre

10.71415419
Moldova_South

10.72022854
Moldova_average

10.99118283
Moldova_Bulgarian

11.37389555
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

13.75574789
Moldova_North

18.67163089
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

22.55955673
Moldova_Ukrainian

22.62968846
Ukrainian_Lviv

23.80665243
Crimean_Tatar

24.26897402
Ukrainian

25.73258440
Moldova_Roma

27.91503000
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

29.23819420
Russian_Smolensk

29.35923024
Moldova_Jewish

35.99883792
Russian_Pinega

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Distance: 4.9031% / 4.90308168
Target: Nisporeni_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.4 Moldova_Bulgarian
32.5 Ukrainian_Lviv
26.1 Moldova_Roma

-Bulgarian
Distance: 5.5026% / 5.50256013
Target: Nisporeni_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.1 Moldova_Centre
25.9 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_average
0.0 Moldova_Jewish
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_South
0.0 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
0.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Russian_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv

Ion Basescul

12-17-2020, 12:45 AM

The second one is a match with my dad on MyHeritage. He is mostly from the town of Falesti, but with one grandparent from Rotunda, Edinet.

3/4 Falesti (town), 1/4 Edinet (Rotunda)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

25.36
29.58
14.13
9.39
15.86
2.33
0
2.32
0.90
0
0
0.14
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Compared to others from Falesti

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

24.90
34.32
14.54
5.42
14.28
2.29
1.58
0
2.07
0
0.34
0
0.25

26.22
34.90
12.85
10.54
10.96
1.08
0.09
1.83
0
0.52
0.41
0
0.59

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K13 updated

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Distance to:
Falesti_ind

3.58916425
Moldova_Centre

3.79540512
Moldova_average

6.63930719
Moldova_North

7.56040343
Moldova_South

11.15343893
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

11.90066805
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

12.35994741
Moldova_Bulgarian

16.11275271
Moldova_Ukrainian

16.82647913
Ukrainian_Lviv

18.13884506
Ukrainian

23.63185985
Russian_Smolensk

26.38074108
Crimean_Tatar

28.00697235
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

30.83383855
Moldova_Jewish

31.00648208
Russian_Pinega

35.08341061
Moldova_Roma

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Distance: 3.2649% / 3.26487178
Target: Falesti_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.2 Moldova_Centre
21.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.0 Moldova_Jewish

-Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
Distance: 3.1707% / 3.17070266
Target: Falesti_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.2 Moldova_Centre
23.4 Moldova_Ukrainian
13.4 Moldova_Jewish

-Jewish
Distance: 3.5325% / 3.53252772
Target: Falesti_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
94.9 Moldova_Centre
5.1 Moldova_Bulgarian

-Bulgarian
Distance: 3.5683% / 3.56825494
Target: Falesti_ind | ADC: 0.25x RC
94.5 Moldova_Centre
5.5 Moldova_South
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_average
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
0.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Russian_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv

Ion Basescul

12-26-2020, 09:20 PM

Guys, do Csangos have Romanian surnames?

Ion Basescul

12-27-2020, 02:23 PM

11 new Csangos

These are those that I had before (posted by andre and Dunai):

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
Mong.

27.88
29.54
14.62
8.53
10.50
0.99
3.04
0
2.96
0.42
1.34
0.17
0
3.38

26.96
29.64
13.81
7.10
10.90
3.80
0.80
1.40
3.06
1.43
0.38
0.72
0
5.89

24.80
29.69
15.01
4.95
17.36
2.11
1.29
1.52
1.14
1.49
1.34
0.17
0
4.15

26.45
29.53
12.87
9.46
13.01
1.33
2.15
1.44
3.26
0
0
0.10
0.41
4.70

29.17
26.08
15.65
8.38
14.21
2.01
0.00
0.98
2.84
0.20
0.48
0
0
4.02

25.48
30.36
14.85
6.50
16.45
2.02
1.10
0
1.77
0.35
0
0
1.03
2.12

27.31
31.86
15.19
6.32
12.79
1.22
1.76
0
1.60
1.41
0.54
0
0
3.01

22.56
27.12
17.27
10.76
16.56
1.82
2.30
0
0.91
0
0.71
0
0
0.91

30.53
30.04
16.00
7.12
7.63
1.12
0.08
4.67
0.40
2.40
0
0
0
7.47

30.43
28.99
16.32
8.42
9.31
0.45
0
3.02
3.06
0
0
0
0
6.08

28.07
30.12
16.06
7.70
9.12
0.84
2.48
2.93
1.70
0.99
0
0
0
5.62

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And these are the new 11 I've confirmed myself:

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
Mong.

26.32
30.26
13.30
5.96
15.85
1.21
2.64
0.14
2.89
0.79
0.12
0
0.52
3.82

27.17
28.96
15.51
9.12
10.16
0.92
0
1.71
3.99
1.59
0.52
0
0.35
7.29

29.48
28.70
14.86
10.96
8.93
0.82
0
1.39
2.63
0.88
0.84
0.45
0.07
4.90

25.78
30.39
18.39
9.96
8.84
1.99
0.40
0
3.35
0
0.58
0.31
0
3.35

26.99
29.84
17.59
11.27
7.93
1.00
0
0
3.31
0
1.12
0.94
0
3.31

26.99
31.26
15.96
7.95
9.47
1.73
2.50
0.45
1.88
1.81
0
0
0
4.14

28.58
31.10
14.68
5.15
11.26
4.58
0
0.49
2.66
1.34
0
0
0.15
4.49

34.11
26.31
15.23
11.25
2.53
2.53
0
1.80
3.81
1.32
0.60
0
0.49
6.93

30.74
27.38
16.33
10.14
8.63
1.45
0
1.51
3.17
0.16
0.46
0
0
4.84

29.03
27.46
15.13
11.51
10.92
0.97
0
0
3.09
0.00
1.88
0
0
3.09

23.05
31.75
14.40
12.35
10.93
2.17
0
1.08
2.53
0.59
0.44
0.70
0
4.20

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There are 4 more that I am waiting to verify.

Dunai

12-27-2020, 02:39 PM

And these are the new 11 I've confirmed myself:

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
Mong.

26.32
30.26
13.30
5.96
15.85
1.21
2.64
0.14
2.89
0.79
0.12
0
0.52
3.82

27.17
28.96
15.51
9.12
10.16
0.92
0
1.71
3.99
1.59
0.52
0
0.35
7.29

29.48
28.70
14.86
10.96
8.93
0.82
0
1.39
2.63
0.88
0.84
0.45
0.07
4.90

25.78
30.39
18.39
9.96
8.84
1.99
0.40
0
3.35
0
0.58
0.31
0
3.35

26.99
29.84
17.59
11.27
7.93
1.00
0
0
3.31
0
1.12
0.94
0
3.31

26.99
31.26
15.96
7.95
9.47
1.73
2.50
0.45
1.88
1.81
0
0
0
4.14

28.58
31.10
14.68
5.15
11.26
4.58
0
0.49
2.66
1.34
0
0
0.15
4.49

34.11
26.31
15.23
11.25
2.53
2.53
0
1.80
3.81
1.32
0.60
0
0.49
6.93

30.74
27.38
16.33
10.14
8.63
1.45
0
1.51
3.17
0.16
0.46
0
0
4.84

29.03
27.46
15.13
11.51
10.92
0.97
0
0
3.09
0.00
1.88
0
0
3.09

23.05
31.75
14.40
12.35
10.93
2.17
0
1.08
2.53
0.59
0.44
0.70
0
4.20

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There are 4 more that I am waiting to verify.

I believe you can take over now in making the Csángó average, these are already some unexpectedly numerous samples for such a small population. Like 5-6 of them could easily even pass as pure Hungarians, also I am wondering how could one of them have 34.11 North Atlantic, that seems kinda surreal for someone in that region?

Dunai

12-27-2020, 02:49 PM

Guys, do Csangos have Romanian surnames?

Most Csángós today are assimilated into Moldavians culturally, but you can still pick them out from them by looking if they are of Roman-Catholic religion and have Hungarian-like names, even if written in Romanian. Also if they lean much more towards Székelys and Transylvanian Hungarians genetically, it's a solid sign that probably their parents, grandparents are Csángós.

Ion Basescul

12-27-2020, 03:29 PM

I believe you can take over now in making the Csángó average, these are already some unexpectedly numerous samples for such a small population. Like 5-6 of them could easily even pass as pure Hungarians, also I am wondering how could one of them have 34.11 North Atlantic, that seems kinda surreal for someone in that region?

Yes, they come from inside the Catholic (cyan) villages (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Romania_harta_religiilor_2002.PNG) at the Eastern end in Neamt county, one is half from the Catholic village just outside in Iasi county.
And it is true that they see themselves as Romanians today, have Romanian names and Romanised surnames and most know only Romanian. But they are Catholic and aware of their origins, at least those who tested themselves.
The one with 34% grabbed my attention too when I was looking at it, especially considering the very low East Med value. Made me think of an assimilated Saxon, but the sum of East Asian/Siberian/Amerind. checks out for a full Csango. Perhaps the components are just distributed a bit weirdly. These 10 and those 3 from andre are all tested on 23andme v5, which has a low SNP count.

Aspirin

12-27-2020, 03:41 PM

Yes, the come from inside the Catholic (cyan) villages (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Romania_harta_religiilor_2002.PNG) at the Eastern end in Neamt county, one is half from the Catholic village just outside in Iasi county.
And it is true that they see themselves as Romanians today, have Romanian names and surnames and most know only Romanian. But they are Catholic and aware of their origins, at least those who tested themselves.
The one with 34% grabbed my attention too when I was looking at it, especially considering the very low East Med value. Made me think of an assimilated Saxon, but the sum of East Asian/Siberian/Amerind. checks out for a full Csango. Perhaps the components are just distributed a bit weirdly. These 10 and those 3 from andre are all tested on 23andme v5, which has a low SNP count.

What are the names of these villages?

Ion Basescul

12-27-2020, 03:58 PM

Old average with 11 samples

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
NE+NW Euro
Med Euro
Caucasus
SW Asia
Siberia
India

27.24
29.36
15.24
7.75
12.53
1.61
1.36
1.45
2.06
0.79
0.44
0.11
0.13
56.60
27.77
7.75
1.72
4.30
1.36

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New average with 22 samples

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
NE+NW Euro
Med Euro
Caucasus
SW Asia
Siberia
India

27.63
29.38
15.41
8.68
11.06
1.69
0.93
1.12
2.55
0.78
0.52
0.16
0.14
57.01
26.47
8.68
1.85
4.44
0.93

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These are the 4 samples that are matching the rest closely and are very likely Catholics too from the same or nearby villages. Again Romanian forenames and Romanised Hungarian surnames, which is typical of Csangos. Autosomal results also support their origin. But I am waiting for the email confirmations.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
Mong.

24.77
32.67
15.87
11.70
9.56
0
0
1.80
2.02
0.81
0.78
0
0
4.63

26.97
32.60
16.01
9.33
7.24
1.73
0.57
1.53
3.10
0.56
0.35
0
0
5.19

31.07
29.72
13.91
6.97
12.29
0
1.39
1.12
2.22
0.87
0
0
0.45
4.21

29.78
28.24
12.95
10.70
11.44
1.28
0.77
0
3.02
1.67
0
0.16
0
4.69

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Dunai

12-27-2020, 04:15 PM

Aspirin

12-27-2020, 04:18 PM

These Csangos are from northern branch located northern of Roman city, where many of them are of old Hungarian stock.

Leto

12-28-2020, 07:53 PM

Ion Basescul

12-28-2020, 11:40 PM

Leto

12-28-2020, 11:46 PM

Could be, it's one of the most common surnames here. Please PM/rep me the kit or email so that I can confirm the origin.
Done.
His NA is fucking low. The data source appears to be MyHeritage though.

Apparently his sibling or something like that (2,700+ cM shared)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.11
2 North_Atlantic 18.96
3 West_Med 16.96
4 West_Asian 11.31
5 East_Med 10.52
6 Red_Sea 4.28
7 Siberian 2.03
8 Oceanian 1.71
9 East_Asian 1.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.24
2 Croatian 9.35
3 Serbian 10.33
4 Romanian 11.5
5 Bulgarian 12.22
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.27
7 Hungarian 13.42
8 Ukrainian 14.87
9 South_Polish 15.6
10 Austrian 17.18
11 Southwest_Russian 17.32
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.36
13 East_German 17.66
14 Polish 18.19
15 Tatar 18.89
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.28
17 Estonian_Polish 19.92
18 Greek_Thessaly 20.08
19 Kargopol_Russian 20.44
20 Belorussian 20.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.1% Moldavian + 6.9% Bedouin @ 5.34
2 94.3% Moldavian + 5.7% Saudi @ 5.38
3 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.41
4 93.1% Moldavian + 6.9% Syrian @ 5.44
5 93.7% Moldavian + 6.3% Samaritan @ 5.44
6 94% Moldavian + 6% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.48
7 76.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 23.2% Cyprian @ 5.49
8 94% Moldavian + 6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.5
9 93.8% Moldavian + 6.2% Assyrian @ 5.5
10 93.2% Moldavian + 6.8% Cyprian @ 5.51
11 93.7% Moldavian + 6.3% Jordanian @ 5.51
12 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.52
13 93.9% Moldavian + 6.1% Armenian @ 5.53
14 92.6% Moldavian + 7.4% Turkish @ 5.54
15 94.4% Moldavian + 5.6% Abhkasian @ 5.54
16 92.7% Moldavian + 7.3% Kabardin @ 5.55
17 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Georgian @ 5.56
18 93% Moldavian + 7% Balkar @ 5.56
19 94.3% Moldavian + 5.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 5.58
20 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Palestinian @ 5.59

Ion Basescul

12-28-2020, 11:59 PM

Done.
His NA is fucking low. The data source appears to be MyHeritage though.

Apparently his sibling or something like that (2,700+ cM shared)

Thanks, yes, that's definitely a sibling. I'll check with them.
Sometimes they like to inflate the Baltic, which drops the NA or viceversa. My mum's and brother's are similar in this regard.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

20.94
32.81
16.13
11.69
12.21
0.97
2.06
1.03
1.08
0.54
0.54
0
0

19.44
37.30
15.60
10.04
13.19
0.47
0.95
1.49
0.28
0.41
0.82
0
0

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Ion Basescul

12-29-2020, 12:26 AM

Done.
His NA is fucking low. The data source appears to be MyHeritage though.

Apparently his sibling or something like that (2,700+ cM shared)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.11
2 North_Atlantic 18.96
3 West_Med 16.96
4 West_Asian 11.31
5 East_Med 10.52
6 Red_Sea 4.28
7 Siberian 2.03
8 Oceanian 1.71
9 East_Asian 1.1

So both of them are from Bucharest, which isn't telling much because Bucharest has people from all over Romania, Republic of Moldova, and beyond. My kits from Bucharest are very diverse. But I found this comment "Moldavians are the same with romanians, but my ancestry family is from Ucraine, Russia and far East Europe." and sent an email to check the origin. Could be the descendants of WW2 deportees.

Leto

12-29-2020, 12:34 AM

So both of them are from Bucharest, which isn't telling much because Bucharest has people from all over Romania, Republic of Moldova, and beyond. My kits from Bucharest are very diverse. But I found this comment "Moldavians are the same with romanians, but my ancestry family is from Ucraine, Russia and far East Europe." and sent an email to check the origin. Could be the descendants of WW2 deportees.
Your Bucuresti average is very representative of Southern Romania, I think. In fact probably of Romania period (not only Southern).

Ion Basescul

12-29-2020, 12:41 AM

Your Bucuresti average is very representative of Southern Romania, I think. In fact probably of Romania period (not only Southern).

Yes, it's pretty good, these are the constituents.

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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.59
23.87
20.94
11.19
15.40
1.19
1.44
0
0.83
1
1.56
0
0

19.51
25.17
22.50
11.60
17.60
1.19
0
0
1.22
1.00
0.19
0
0

23.65
28.15
14.73
10.75
15.39
2.48
1.40
0.91
0.94
0.97
0
0.62
0

17.66
26.24
17.15
11.12
23.51
1.38
0
0.80
1.53
0
0.62
0
0

17.37
24.12
18.10
11.28
24.26
2.25
0
1.56
0.22
0
0.37
0.47
0

23.14
24.14
18.07
13.36
16.13
2.60
1.37
0
0.83
0.15
0.21
0
0

25.52
22.68
17.20
11.05
18.44
2.91
0
0
1.04
0.14
0
1.02
0

23.42
22.53
16.80
12.12
17.72
4.15
0
0
1.19
0.75
0.26
1.03
0

17.82
23.48
15.18
16.54
22.59
2.82
0.41
0
0.82
0
0.22
0.14
0

19.94
20.52
13.16
14.70
24.20
3.69
0.83
0
1.31
1.35
0.28
0
0

23.77
24.85
18.01
11.25
16.62
1.84
1.06
0
0.12
1.27
0.57
0.19
0.45

22.45
27.66
17.29
9.82
16.87
1.65
0.48
2.02
0.83
0
0.38
0
0.54

21.85
27.04
16.01
10.51
20.63
3.02
0
0
0
0.88
0.06
0
0

22.95
27.28
17.74
9.04
16.91
1.97
0
0.78
1.73
0
1.59
0
0

22.23
24.91
16.34
12.72
18.81
0
1.57
0.63
1.93
0.30
0.17
0
0.37

20.00
21.78
20.01
12.13
21.84
1.40
0
0
0.68
0.87
0.30
1.00
0

21.55
21.67
17.99
11.16
22.44
1.50
2.12
1.02
0
0.55
0
0
0

20.96
29.77
17.67
8.48
17.93
2.87
0.21
0
1.04
0.77
0
0.28
0

19.56
30.20
15.90
12.17
17.78
1.37
0
0.76
1.16
0
0
0.82
0.30

22.17
24.79
17.79
9.89
17.27
4.85
0.09
1.05
0
1.73
0.20
0
0.18

23.78
26.40
18.08
7.88
16.42
3.83
0
1.22
1.59
0.31
0
0
0.49

20.43
26.30
19.27
12.74
17.15
0
1.68
1.12
0.11
1.19
0
0
0

21.06
25.36
16.87
12.89
17.21
2.45
0.65
1.63
1.40
0.36
0.13
0
0

20.44
24.92
16.80
7.61
23.66
2.48
1.33
0
2.72
0
0
0
0

24.66
25.16
16.95
8.76
20.01
1.15
1.85
0.62
0.85
0
0
0
0

24.57
24.09
16.25
12.66
17.71
2.52
0
0.42
1.29
0
0.19
0.08
0.22

17.92
26.49
16.46
12.57
20.71
1.84
0.77
0.30
1.95
1.00
0
0
0

25.55
21.57
17.83
9.76
19.81
3.99
0
0.61
0
0
0.87
0
0

18.28
23.12
19.09
9.94
21.50
3.45
1.23
0
1.11
1.53
0.62
0.13
0

22.08
25.94
19.51
10.78
18.12
1.49
1.44
0
0.48
0.12
0
0
0

24.50
22.51
16.82
8.27
22.48
2.30
0.89
0.26
0.06
1.50
0.41
0
0

19.66
22.55
18.39
12.86
21.33
3.27
0.17
0.05
1.19
0.25
0.12
0.16
0

22.36
21.47
16.93
13.00
17.51
3.82
1.82
0
1.52
0.62
0.94
0
0

21.80
32.21
16.73
8.05
18.21
0.60
0
0.98
0.56
0
0.48
0
0.39

24.32
20.22
17.10
13.57
16.10
2.52
2.57
2.31
0
0.46
0.61
0
0.22

20.58
22.72
19.35
11.62
21.22
2.02
0
0
0.85
0.39
1.16
0
0.09

18.62
26.90
19.30
13.33
16.89
3.53
0.35
0.53
0.49
0.07
0
0
0

23.68
23.16
20.58
9.38
15.66
1.32
2.68
1.43
0.60
1.11
0
0.24
0.19

19.76
20.92
19.54
14.37
20.51
3.81
0
0
0.19
0.09
0.39
0
0.41

23.70
26.10
15.96
11.00
19.00
1.34
1.24
0.30
1.35
0
0
0
0

26.51
22.49
15.71
12.56
19.31
1.08
0.77
0
0.89
0.34
0
0.06
0.29

21.71
27.40
19.14
7.92
19.95
1.29
0.33
0
2.03
0
0.23
0
0

23.87
26.56
18.22
8.34
16.69
2.39
0
0.07
2.15
0.86
0.85
0
0

28.11
23.80
17.71
7.84
17.78
1.53
0.17
1.30
1.07
0
0.67
0
0

23.37
27.37
13.52
11.30
19.43
2.87
1.14
0
0.29
0.45
0.20
0.08
0

25.96
23.08
15.11
10.38
17.83
2.80
0.84
0
2.29
0.82
0.39
0.07
0.44

22.35
25.56
16.88
10.53
19.62
2.79
0
0.85
1.11
0.30
0
0
0

23.50
25.45
16.92
7.27
21.40
1.97
0
1.17
1.03
0.89
0.39
0
0

24.58
22.84
16.46
10.26
20.44
3.15
0
0
0.66
1.22
0
0
0.39

25.41
23.53
18.35
8.65
20.09
1.94
0
0.07
0.57
1.40
0
0
0

19.96
24.04
19.53
12.06
20.85
0.91
0.46
0
0.97
0
0.49
0.34
0.39

24.90
27.13
14.81
13.08
15.60
0.17
0.11
0
2.00
0.82
0.41
0.96
0

17.77
25.18
20.80
9.31
20.61
2.60
0.60
1.96
0.18
0.94
0
0
0

22.97
26.30
16.88
10.33
18.69
3.75
0
0
1.09
0
0
0
0

23.40
26.47
18.86
10.47
16.17
2.12
0
0
0.55
1.93
0
0
0

24.66
23.90
16.52
10.04
19.87
3.28
0
0.48
0.68
0
0.58
0
0

14.94
30.25
18.10
12.55
17.83
1.55
1.44
1.79
0
0.80
0.37
0
0.40

21.01
25.38
16.21
13.16
19.19
2.17
0.90
0.16
0.80
0.92
0
0.10
0

17.68
34.22
13.55
6.36
24.84
0.77
0.42
0
1.03
0.89
0
0
0.23

27.41
24.25
18.52
10.78
15.36
0.83
0.22
0
1.45
0.85
0
0
0.33

19.21
32.76
21.60
6.80
14.84
2.37
0
0
0.35
1.51
0.56
0
0

23.83
18.19
17.88
15.42
19.05
1.51
1.58
1.54
0
0
0
1.01
0

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Ion Basescul

01-04-2021, 09:07 PM

Some kits from Botosani (2, 3 and 4 have Ukrainian surnames) and and one from Suceava (romanised Ukrainian surname (Botnar from Bodnar)).
Some of them look like Ukrainian mutts or even purely Ukrainian in one case. A similar situation probably is not uncommon in Republic of Moldova, where Ukrainian surnames are very frequent in people identifying as Moldovan in the North. According to the spread of such surnames, this should be more common in Dniester-neigbhouring districts like Drochia, Soroca, Floresti, Donduseni, Soldanesti than those along Prut, where there is a notable diversity in Moldovan/Romanian surnames.Ukrainian surnames like Melnyk (Melnic), Lesnyk (Lisnic), Dontsov (Dontov), Belous, Tkach (Tcaci), Chumak (Ciumac), Kushnir (Cusnir) are popular along the Northern parts of the Dniester. To them add the numerous variety of smaller Ukrainian surnames ending in "-ic, uc, iuc, ac, co" or Russian ending in "-ov, in". These are very obviously non-Moldovan to any Moldovan.

Botosani

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.92
30.37
13.79
8.19
17.01
0
0.48
0.11
2.19
0.50
0.38
0
0.05

29.12
29.73
10.96
7.94
18.38
0.82
0
0
1.19
1.09
0.76
0
0

28.53
35.39
12.70
4.80
16.04
0.40
0
0
1.40
0
0.17
0
0.51

26.82
38.01
15.03
4.15
11.34
1.09
1.12
1.00
0
0.23
0.31
0
0.88

25.39
28.61
16.91
9.54
11.68
2.25
1.43
0.52
1.65
1.20
0.41
0
0.41

23.07
33.85
17.50
9.77
10.25
1.18
1.33
0.73
0
1.75
0.14
0.43
0

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Compared to others from Botosani

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.52
33.55
15.30
9.67
13.39
2.08
1.20
0.40
1.78
0
0
0
0

26.31
31.16
12.22
10.56
13.39
1.79
0
0
0.94
0
2.06
0.14
1.45

22.16
30.86
17.51
9.77
15.49
0
0
0.34
1.55
0.82
0.75
0.33
0.41

24.65
26.31
13.74
10.46
18.52
2.72
1.12
0
0.80
1.49
0
0.18
0

23.95
27.47
14.03
11.97
18.04
1.55
1.75
0
0.99
0.24
0
0
0

22.58
31.36
14.37
10.90
16.01
2.56
0
0
1.23
0.53
0.19
0.27
0

24.93
26.54
16.40
12.19
15.34
1.75
0
0.90
1.24
0.20
0.49
0
0

22.62
34.43
14.66
9.52
16.56
0
0
0
1.92
0.29
0
0
0

27.00
28.09
16.24
7.95
14.03
2.98
0.73
1.76
0
0.54
0.70
0
0

26.38
33.40
12.80
4.41
17.06
1.02
0.98
0.63
1.06
0.96
0.90
0
0.41

25.88
30.94
16.18
8.74
13.64
1.20
0
0.51
1.15
0.88
0.89
0
0

18.23
40.00
15.66
8.32
10.78
0
2.34
0.76
1.00
1.93
0.99
0
0

26.15
35.91
12.71
8.05
14.43
0.54
0
0
2.22
0
0
0
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_1

4.22203742
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.67145588
Serb_central

4.73587373
Serb_north

4.84895865
Croat_South

4.98906805
Székely

4.99613851
Serb

5.06054345
Croat_West

5.23886438
Bosniak

5.29328820
Moldova_Centre

5.34953269
Csángó

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_2

7.08178650
Croat_West

7.18391258
Székely

7.42989906
Romania_Moldavia_North

7.65158807
Hungarian_Transylvania

7.83466655
Croat_South

7.85559037
Csángó

7.91994318
Serb_central

8.08934484
Serb_north

8.31320035
Bosniak

8.33720577
Serb

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_3

5.77625311
Croat_East

6.14486778
Croat

6.25547760
Croat_West

6.36030660
Romania_Ukrainian

6.50137678
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

6.53013782
Hungarian_Northern

6.87392173
Hungarian_Alföld

7.00964336
Croat_South

7.02435050
Croat_North

7.30698980
Hungarian

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_4

2.56419578
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

2.80087486
Romania_Ukrainian

5.52520588
Hungarian_Northern

5.83930647
Croat_East

6.00658805
Croat_North

6.18671157
Slovak

6.39355926
Croat

6.64248447
Hungarian_Alföld

6.74969629
Slovenian

7.35300619
Moldova_Ukrainian

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_5

3.53089224
Csángó

4.06033250
Székely

4.11115556
Serb_north

4.22058053
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.25780460
Serb

4.30001163
Hungarian_Transylvania

4.35524971
Romania_Maramures

4.52504144
Serb_central

4.54744983
Croat_South

4.61729358
Moldova_average

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_6

4.29041956
Moldova_North

5.13976653
Bosniak

5.80035344
Croat_South

6.06927508
Croat_East

6.16947324
Serb_north

6.33364034
Moldova_average

6.49259578
Croat

6.50003077
Moldova_Centre

6.67514045
Romania_Moldavia_North

7.22578023
Serb

</tbody>

Suceava

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

24.50
37.74
11.01
7.68
12.62
2.75
0.39
0.96
1.12
0
0.26
0
0.98

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Compared to others from Suceava

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.74
31.61
13.10
9.18
12.47
0.66
0.78
0
0.86
0.19
0.79
1.61
0

26.88
29.15
13.73
8.13
14.66
2.27
2.06
0
2.15
0.88
0.10
0
0

26.90
27.46
17.28
9.68
14.68
0
0
0
2.21
1.16
0.35
0
0.29

30.06
26.76
16.04
8.87
14.56
1.54
0
1.00
0.58
0
0.60
0
0

25.53
34.27
13.61
7.30
10.70
2.19
1.74
0
2.96
1.22
0.47
0
0

23.46
34.89
15.09
7.43
11.82
3.66
0
0
0.39
2.00
0.65
0.60
0

24.18
33.34
12.99
8.44
13.91
1.23
1.31
1.19
1.84
0.89
0.67
0
0

24.99
32.68
13.35
7.67
16.04
1.42
0.95
0
0.78
1.26
0.87
0
0

29.03
34.47
13.15
6.10
12.78
1.79
0.78
1.02
0.87
0
0
0
0

21.99
33.52
14.77
11.31
11.99
2.49
0.5
1.04
2.23
0
0.16
0
0

23.64
28.74
16.52
6.63
20.14
1.10
0
1.05
0.10
0.66
1.42
0
0

23.25
30.39
14.82
11.44
15.45
0
0.23
0.28
2.95
0
0
1.16
0

24.37
39.23
10.88
6.70
13.46
1.45
0
0
2.62
0.51
0.79
0
0

24.60
32.75
14.70
8.38
10.93
2.70
2.02
0
1.75
1.72
0.25
0.20
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_1

4.34092156
Romania_Ukrainian

4.83661038
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

5.42084864
Croat_East

5.75411157
Moldova_North

7.28067991
Bosniak

7.35595677
Croat

7.68944731
Hungarian_Northern

7.70815153
Moldova_Ukrainian

8.04520975
Croat_North

8.14317506
Hungarian_Alföld

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

01-04-2021, 09:20 PM

Distance against local averages from Moldova, Romanian Moldavia and Ukraine

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_1

2.76054342
Moldova_Nisporeni

4.24075465
Moldova_Balti

4.28684033
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

4.30267359
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

4.41252762
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

5.14540572
Moldova_Falesti

5.35615534
Moldova_Calarasi

5.58022401
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

5.81819560
Moldova_Chisinau

5.89109497
Moldova_Soldanesti

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_2

5.10409639
Moldova_Nisporeni

7.21864253
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

7.25446070
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

7.41942046
Moldova_Balti

7.54133940
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

7.64758786
Moldova_Falesti

8.06451486
Moldova_Calarasi

8.11966748
Moldova_Causeni

8.47076148
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

8.52991794
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_3

6.33385349
Moldova_Falesti

6.36030660
Romania_Ukrainian

6.49045453
Ukrainian_Khmelnytska

6.57664808
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

6.90880597
Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivska

7.32856739
Moldova_Soldanesti

7.39205655
Moldova_Balti

7.44229131
Moldova_Floresti

7.74421720
Moldova_Nisporeni

7.76353657
Moldova_AneniiNoi

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_4

2.80087486
Romania_Ukrainian

2.84397609
Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivska

4.09797511
Ukrainian_Khmelnytska

4.96119945
Ukrainian_Zakarpatska

5.09707759
Ukrainian_Odeska

5.73924211
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

5.80361094
Ukrainian_Ternopilska

6.17954691
Ukrainian_Lvivska

6.69727557
Moldova_AneniiNoi

7.35300619
Moldova_Ukrainian

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_5

2.39056479
Moldova_Straseni

3.00754052
Moldova_Calarasi

3.31739356
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

3.34959699
Moldova_Ialoveni

4.00851593
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

4.20574607
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.37979452
Moldova_Telenesti

4.38669580
Moldova_Ocnita

4.91166978
Moldova_Balti

5.12847931
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_6

4.36826052
Moldova_Glodeni

4.42249929
Moldova_Ocnita

4.45025842
Moldova_Edinet

4.96595409
Moldova_Orhei

5.07099596
Moldova_Straseni

5.27301621
Ukrainian_Chernivetska

5.55592477
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

5.57583178
Moldova_Singerei

5.61003565
Moldova_Chisinau

5.74604212
Moldova_Telenesti

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_1

4.26768087
Ukrainian_Odeska

4.34092156
Romania_Ukrainian

4.66673333
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

4.69640288
Moldova_Floresti

4.70654863
Ukrainian_Chernivetska

4.94933329
Ukrainian_Khmelnytska

4.95089891
Ukrainian_Zakarpatska

5.06788911
Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivska

5.54083026
Moldova_Briceni

5.94563706
Moldova_Falesti

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

01-04-2021, 09:36 PM

Russian from Chisinau, doesn't know of any non-Russian ancestors, but there must be something if you ask me...East Med is too high for unmixed Russians

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.17
43.05
11.68
7.26
10.95
1.47
0.69
0.41
2.73
0.26
0.18
0.15
0

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Compared to other East Slavs from Moldova (mostly Ukrainians, apart from the second one from Bender who identifies as Russian, but seems to have Roma admixture)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

31.25
43.56
7.87
4.74
10.12
0
0
1.05
0
0.39
0
1.01
0

19.49
39.49
12.12
12.18
8.25
0
3.82
1.27
0.87
0.89
1.11
0.51
0

24.82
40.06
14.14
5.78
8.66
1.42
1.15
0
1.83
0.97
0
0.65
0.49

25.21
40.00
10.23
6.74
11.15
2.47
0.36
0.86
1.34
0.41
0.28
0
0.94

22.58
46.11
11.36
8.38
7.13
0
0
0
1.82
0.58
0.73
0
1.32

31.62
45.30
6.36
6.04
4.53
0
1.11
0
2.50
0.85
0.82
0.86
0

23.24
42.33
14.39
7.53
6.33
0
1.22
0
2.70
0.62
0.07
1.10
0.47

29.08
43.59
11.28
4.32
8.26
0
1.73
0
0
0.99
0.30
0
0.45

25.50
39.14
13.68
10.09
7.49
0.57
0.24
0.75
1.75
0
0.39
0.10
0.30

24.49
40.51
12.86
5.03
10.83
1.66
1.63
1.55
0
0.54
0.12
0.77
0

26.60
36.87
14.39
5.74
9.35
2.31
0.72
0.60
1.58
0
1.22
0.50
0.09

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_Russian

6.86212066
Moldova_Ukrainian

7.55079466
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

8.64232029
Ukrainian_Lviv

8.68861324
Russian_Southwest

8.78607990
Ukrainian

9.47000000
Ukrainian_Belgorod

10.05871264
Moldova_North

10.75374818
Croat_East

10.90303627
South_Polish

11.19445845
Russian_average

11.99340235
Russian_Smolensk

12.02399268
Slovak

12.10542027
Estonian_Polish

12.29087060
Hungarian_Northern

12.46362708
Polish

12.48004808
Bosniak

12.78363016
Croat

12.83370173
Russian_Kostroma

12.96622921
Croat_North

13.17610337
Belorussian

13.22702158
Russian_Kargopol

13.28842353
Erzya_Mordovian

13.35525365
Hungarian_Alföld

13.45641111
Sorb_Lusatia

13.56223064
Croat_South

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_Russian

4.53523980
Ukrainian_Poltavska

5.34389371
Ukrainian_Odeska

5.90637791
Ukrainian_Mykolaivska

6.49093984
Ukrainian_Donetska

6.86212066
Moldova_Ukrainian

7.10309792
Ukrainian_Harkivska

7.18718999
Ukrainian_Zaporizka

7.51723353
Ukrainian_Kyivska

7.55673871
Ukrainian_Zhytomyrska

7.75677124
Ukrainian_Zakarpatska

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

01-04-2021, 09:53 PM

Updated averages for Botosani and Suceava with those from above added in

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Name
Number of Samples
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

Romania_Moldavia_Botosani
19
24.91
31.89
14.67
8.78
14.81
1.26
0.66
0.40
1.17
0.67
0.48
0.07
0.22

Romania_Moldavia_Suceava
15
25.47
32.47
14.07
8.33
13.75
1.68
0.72
0.44
1.56
0.70
0.49
0.24
0.08

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Distance to all local averages from Romania, Moldova and Ukraine

<tbody>
Distance to:
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

1.17923704
Moldova_Balti

2.27314760
Moldova_Falesti

2.49198716
Moldova_Chisinau

2.64979244
Moldova_Singerei

3.01574203
Romania_Crisana_Salaj

3.23030958
Moldova_Ialoveni

3.30998489
Moldova_Nisporeni

3.45401216
Moldova_Soldanesti

3.64156560
Romania_Maramures_Maramures

3.82755797
Moldova_Ocnita

4.01464818
Moldova_Calarasi

4.04676414
Moldova_Straseni

4.25094107
Moldova_Telenesti

4.28115639
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

4.39963635
Moldova_Briceni

4.44933703
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.48091509
Moldova_Orhei

4.97341935
Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea

5.45595088
Ukrainian_Chernivetska

5.51224999
Moldova_Cimislia

5.57022441
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.57833308
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

5.83821034
Moldova_Edinet

5.98540725
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

6.24436546
Moldova_Ungheni

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

1.40673381
Moldova_Falesti

1.55393050
Moldova_Balti

3.07676778
Moldova_Chisinau

3.50921644
Romania_Crisana_Salaj

3.55472924
Moldova_Ocnita

3.67552717
Moldova_Singerei

3.93342090
Moldova_Ialoveni

4.03495973
Moldova_Briceni

4.05442968
Moldova_Telenesti

4.14980722
Moldova_Soldanesti

4.32031249
Moldova_Nisporeni

4.34490506
Moldova_Straseni

4.53692627
Moldova_Orhei

4.61858203
Moldova_Calarasi

4.75246252
Romania_Maramures_Maramures

4.79231677
Ukrainian_Chernivetska

4.98717355
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.09945095
Moldova_Rezina

5.34008427
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

5.37689501
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

5.51981884
Moldova_Edinet

5.64749502
Moldova_Transnistria

5.81266720
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

6.26217215
Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea

6.34883454
Moldova_AneniiNoi

</tbody>

Looking good imo, even with the inclusion of some very obvious outliers towards Ukraine. I guess that's expected in such an ethnically diverse region in the past.

Jana

01-04-2021, 10:03 PM

Hopefully you're not including recetly mixed people in official averages you make in Vahaduo.

Ion Basescul

01-04-2021, 10:06 PM

A certain Ciobanu which sounds Moldovan to me

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 35.39
2 North_Atlantic 18.92
3 East_Med 14.69
4 West_Med 13.66
5 West_Asian 9.66
6 Red_Sea 4.24
7 Siberian 2.89
8 Oceanian 0.54

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 7.19
2 Croatian 9.52
3 Serbian 10.67
4 Romanian 12.02
5 Bulgarian 12.59
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.96
7 Hungarian 13.43
8 Ukrainian 14.2
9 South_Polish 14.88
10 Southwest_Russian 15.57
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.92
12 Polish 17.49
13 Austrian 18.05
14 Russian_Smolensk 18.08
15 Tatar 18.42
16 Estonian_Polish 18.45
17 East_German 18.5
18 Kargopol_Russian 19.22
19 Belorussian 19.24
20 Erzya 19.34

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.8% Estonian_Polish + 31.2% Cyprian @ 3.44
2 59.5% Erzya + 40.5% East_Sicilian @ 3.49
3 72.5% Southwest_Russian + 27.5% Cyprian @ 3.53
4 58.5% Erzya + 41.5% Central_Greek @ 3.56
5 51.5% Erzya + 48.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.58
6 63.4% Lithuanian + 36.6% Cyprian @ 3.62
7 69.3% Russian_Smolensk + 30.7% Cyprian @ 3.73
8 74.9% Southwest_Russian + 25.1% Samaritan @ 3.89
9 65.3% Erzya + 34.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.89
10 62.3% Erzya + 37.7% South_Italian @ 3.9
11 65.6% Erzya + 34.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.96
12 76.7% Ukrainian + 23.3% Samaritan @ 3.98
13 77.2% Ukrainian + 22.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.03
14 68% Kargopol_Russian + 32% Cyprian @ 4.11
15 65.6% Erzya + 34.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.13
16 71.4% Estonian_Polish + 28.6% Samaritan @ 4.13
17 60.1% Erzya + 39.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.14
18 78.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 21.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.14
19 61.4% Bulgarian + 38.6% Erzya @ 4.14
20 71.9% Estonian_Polish + 28.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.15

Done.
His NA is fucking low. The data source appears to be MyHeritage though.

Apparently his sibling or something like that (2,700+ cM shared)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.11
2 North_Atlantic 18.96
3 West_Med 16.96
4 West_Asian 11.31
5 East_Med 10.52
6 Red_Sea 4.28
7 Siberian 2.03
8 Oceanian 1.71
9 East_Asian 1.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.24
2 Croatian 9.35
3 Serbian 10.33
4 Romanian 11.5
5 Bulgarian 12.22
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.27
7 Hungarian 13.42
8 Ukrainian 14.87
9 South_Polish 15.6
10 Austrian 17.18
11 Southwest_Russian 17.32
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.36
13 East_German 17.66
14 Polish 18.19
15 Tatar 18.89
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.28
17 Estonian_Polish 19.92
18 Greek_Thessaly 20.08
19 Kargopol_Russian 20.44
20 Belorussian 20.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.1% Moldavian + 6.9% Bedouin @ 5.34
2 94.3% Moldavian + 5.7% Saudi @ 5.38
3 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.41
4 93.1% Moldavian + 6.9% Syrian @ 5.44
5 93.7% Moldavian + 6.3% Samaritan @ 5.44
6 94% Moldavian + 6% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.48
7 76.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 23.2% Cyprian @ 5.49
8 94% Moldavian + 6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.5
9 93.8% Moldavian + 6.2% Assyrian @ 5.5
10 93.2% Moldavian + 6.8% Cyprian @ 5.51
11 93.7% Moldavian + 6.3% Jordanian @ 5.51
12 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.52
13 93.9% Moldavian + 6.1% Armenian @ 5.53
14 92.6% Moldavian + 7.4% Turkish @ 5.54
15 94.4% Moldavian + 5.6% Abhkasian @ 5.54
16 92.7% Moldavian + 7.3% Kabardin @ 5.55
17 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Georgian @ 5.56
18 93% Moldavian + 7% Balkar @ 5.56
19 94.3% Moldavian + 5.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 5.58
20 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Palestinian @ 5.59

So these individuals are mixed, 3/4 Romanian, 1/4 Moldovan Russian, but fully from the Moldavia region. The mix is 1/4 Suceava, 1/4 Neamt (village literally on the "border" with Suceava), 1/4 Vaslui and 1/4 Russian from Chisinau. This particular mix place them well within the Moldovan/Romanian diversity from Moldavia, but G25 manages to pick them up as mixed, probably due to how the ratio between North Atlantic and Baltic is unbalanced.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Me
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West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

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13.66
9.66
14.69
4.24
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2.89
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0.54
0
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18.96
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16.96
11.31
10.52
4.28
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1.10
2.03
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1.71
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Moldavia_1

6.42600965
Moldova_North

7.37241480
Moldova_average

7.46887542
Moldova_Centre

7.80697765
Bosniak

8.45240794
Romania_Moldavia_North

9.08175644
Serb_north

9.10774396
Croat_East

9.46930832
Croat_South

9.70255636
Serb

10.04842774
Romania_Maramures

10.05291500
Serb_central

10.29534846
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

10.75801562
Croat

11.18048299
Romania_Moldavia_South

11.24157462
Serb_south

11.32366107
Csángó

11.42813633
Croat_West

11.74828073
Romania_average

11.75757628
Bulgaria_Northwestern

12.06642449
Romania_Banat

12.10495353
Moldova_South

12.15574350
Romania_Transylvania

12.23467204
Székely

12.25668389
Hungarian_Alföld

12.61592644
Pomak_Bulgaria

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Distance to:
Moldavia_2

6.72491636
Moldova_North

7.36541920
Moldova_average

7.69463449
Moldova_Centre

8.16932066
Bosniak

8.78578966
Romania_Moldavia_North

8.85462591
Serb_north

9.34646992
Serb

9.41136016
Croat_South

9.56535415
Romania_Maramures

9.86481120
Croat_East

9.91488780
Serb_central

10.66094743
Csángó

10.74010708
Romania_Moldavia_South

10.75237648
Croat

11.22923862
Romania_average

11.44640992
Serb_south

11.47937716
Romania_Banat

11.49661689
Moldova_South

11.50083475
Croat_West

11.52516377
Romania_Transylvania

11.69525972
Székely

11.83435254
Bulgaria_Northwestern

11.83780807
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

11.86632631
Romania_Crisana

11.93712696
Hungarian_Alföld

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Distance to local averages from Moldova, Romania and Ukraine

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Distance to:
Moldavia_1

5.67854735
Moldova_Edinet

6.17185547
Ukrainian_Chernivetska

6.53622215
Moldova_Soldanesti

6.57361392
Moldova_Chisinau

6.69655135
Moldova_Briceni

6.75268835
Moldova_Singerei

7.35522943
Moldova_Glodeni

7.61502462
Moldova_AneniiNoi

7.75069674
Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea

7.84181102
Moldova_Balti

7.94925154
Moldova_Falesti

7.98223653
Moldova_Cimislia

8.05304911
Moldova_Floresti

8.20889152
Moldova_Telenesti

8.35452572
Moldova_Ialoveni

8.45986998
Moldova_Orhei

8.65902997
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

8.67843304
Moldova_Hincesti

8.71868683
Moldova_Straseni

8.74025743
Romania_Crisana_Salaj

9.37312648
Moldova_Ungheni

9.65001554
Moldova_Ocnita

9.65532496
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

9.69126411
Romania_Maramures_Maramures

10.04699955
Moldova_Calarasi

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Distance to:
Moldavia_2

4.80450830
Moldova_Glodeni

4.99405647
Moldova_Edinet

6.90128249
Moldova_Singerei

6.98384565
Moldova_Chisinau

7.17761799
Moldova_Straseni

7.23897783
Moldova_Telenesti

7.44648239
Ukrainian_Chernivetska

7.55789653
Moldova_Ialoveni

7.78544154
Moldova_Hincesti

7.81941174
Romania_Crisana_Salaj

7.90869774
Moldova_Orhei

8.17116271
Moldova_Briceni

8.60197652
Moldova_Cimislia

8.65726285
Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea

8.66183006
Moldova_Balti

8.66833894
Moldova_Ocnita

8.67591494
Moldova_Soldanesti

8.87167966
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

8.94869264
Moldova_Falesti

9.09255740
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

9.14514079
Moldova_Ungheni

9.17435011
Romania_Maramures_Maramures

9.24591261
Moldova_Calarasi

9.79753540
Moldova_AneniiNoi

9.86755289
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

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Ion Basescul

01-04-2021, 10:11 PM

Hopefully you're not including recetly mixed people in official averages you make in Vahaduo.

No, I am not, which is why I have averages for full ethnics, halfies and in those like Roma where it is more obvious even quarters.
Those from above are not recently mixed. It just happens that in regions where Ukrainian presence was massive, such people have a higher likelihood of preserving this admixture due to mixing with people who carry similar genetic profiles. None of them identify as Ukrainian.

Jana

01-04-2021, 10:15 PM

^^^^Thanks for explanation, that makes sense.

Ion Basescul

01-04-2021, 10:22 PM

From Neamt (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

23.47
28.61
16.83
11.01
13.76
0.42
2.35
0.55
1.81
0
0.61
0
0.58

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Compared to others from Neamt

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.38
27.17
14.71
13.65
16.38
2.64
0.06
1.68
1.96
0
0.39
0
0

26.34
27.91
12.93
10.38
15.58
2.13
0.49
0.77
2.12
0.75
0.60
0
0

24.82
28.86
16.91
7.63
16.16
1.99
0.72
0.41
1.50
0.52
0.48
0
0

23.95
24.80
18.46
11.96
15.86
1.51
0
0
1.28
0.66
1.02
0.50
0

23.04
29.67
14.32
8.00
19.96
3.18
0
0.19
1.18
0
0.29
0
0.17

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Distance to:
Neamt_ind

3.48307336
Moldova_average

3.52584742
Moldova_Centre

3.70094583
Romania_Maramures

3.85635839
Serb

4.10863724
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.29485739
Serb_north

4.37584278
Serb_central

4.51323609
Romania_Moldavia_South

4.87921100
Romania_Crisana

5.03273286
Romania_Transylvania

5.15055337
Romania_average

5.45609751
Bosniak

5.63646166
Romania_Banat

5.75893219
Croat_South

5.79882747
Csángó

5.86815985
Serb_south

6.07503909
Romania_Oltenia

6.08221177
Székely

6.13791496
Montenegrin

6.57931607
Moldova_South

6.71915917
Hungarian_Transylvania

6.73230273
Romania_Dobruja

6.76697126
Romania_Wallachia

6.80831110
Bulgaria_Northwestern

6.85027737
Moldova_North

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Distance to:
Neamt_ind

3.48307336
Moldova_average

3.52584742
Moldova_Centru

3.70094583
Romania_Maramures

4.10863724
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.51323609
Romania_Moldova_Sud

4.87921100
Romania_Crisana

5.03273286
Romania_Transilvania

5.30628872
Romania_average

5.63646166
Romania_Banat

5.79485116
Romania_Moldova_Csango

6.07503909
Romania_Oltenia

6.40060480
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

6.57931607
Moldova_Sud

6.71915917
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

6.73230273
Romania_Dobrogea

6.85027737
Moldova_Nord

7.19924302
Romania_Muntenia

8.71229591
Bulgarian

10.49803791
Moldova_Gagauzia

11.08120932
Moldova_Bulgarian

12.21799083
Romania_Ukrainian

12.37738664
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.39671731
Aromanian_North-Macedonia

12.74828224
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander

15.50238369
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

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Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.7834% / 2.78341307 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.7 Moldova_average
15.4 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
13.8 Romania_Oltenia
4.5 Moldova_Bulgarian
3.6 Crimean_Tatar

-Hungarian, Bulgarian

Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.7394% / 2.73940688 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.6 Romania_Oltenia
37.5 Moldova_Nord
18.7 Romania_Maramures
5.2 Crimean_Tatar

-Oltenia
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.9016% / 2.90157556 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.5 Romania_Maramures
39.4 Moldova_average
5.3 Crimean_Tatar
4.7 Romania_Transilvania
4.1 Moldova_Centru

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3.14356486
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

3.21501166
Moldova_Calarasi

3.24709101
Moldova_Ialoveni

3.33766385
Moldova_Straseni

3.47008645
Romania_Maramures_Maramures

4.01211914
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

4.12809884
Moldova_Cimislia

4.13870753
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.31550692
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

4.39886349
Moldova_Ungheni

4.40512202
Moldova_Singerei

4.44975280
Moldova_Chisinau

4.54306064
Romania_Crisana_Salaj

4.63888995
Romania_Transylvania_Mures

4.76749410
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu

4.87329457
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj

4.91927840
Moldova_Balti

4.93943317
Moldova_Telenesti

5.09392776
Moldova_Orhei

5.19709534
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin

5.35554852
Moldova_Hincesti

5.38826503
Romania_Transylvania_Alba

5.39537765
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara

5.44362012
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud

5.79011226
Romania_Banat_Timis

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Aspirin

01-04-2021, 10:50 PM

romanised Ukrainian surname (Botnar from Bodnar)).

Ukrainian? Botnar is a form of Botnari/Botnaru, very common surname.

Ion Basescul

01-04-2021, 11:23 PM

Ukrainian? Botnar is a form of Botnari/Botnaru, very common surname.

It is common, but it likely derives from Ukrainian Bodnar (https://forebears.io/surnames/bodnar), which means someone who makes barrels. Botnar doesn't mean anything in Romanian or call it whatever you want language. It is very simple. If the surname doesn't mean anything in your language then its initial origin is not local. You can't have surnames without any meaning.

Aspirin

01-04-2021, 11:30 PM

It is common, but it likely derives from Ukrainian Bodnar (https://forebears.io/surnames/bodnar), which means someone who makes barrels. Botnar doesn't mean anything in Romanian or call it whatever you want language. You can't have surnames without any meaning.

This doesn't matter, is similar with Cebotari/Cebotaru who derivative from an Ukrainian word too, and this surname is strictly connected only with Moldova.

Ion Basescul

01-04-2021, 11:55 PM

This doesn't matter, is similar with Cebotari/Cebotaru who derivative from an Ukrainian word too, and this surname is strictly connected only with Moldova.

Cebotari/Cebotaru is a variation of Ciubotaru/Cibotari/Cibotaru, in the same way that the more popular Ceban/Cebanu is for Cioban/Ciobanu. These variations happened due to Imperialist and then Soviet russification in birth/marriage certificates. But they are still obvious. In both cases they derive from Romanian words, cibota/ciubota and cioban, where cibota/ciubota indeed are borrowings from Ukrainian, cioban from Turkish, but they are Romanian and have been in our vocabulary for hundreds of years. And that's different from Botnar/Bodnar/Botnari/Botnaru, because that root is not a word in our language. If it is, then I am listening. The equivalent that I know of is dogar. And if you look at additional variations for this surname, you will see that it unsurprisingly also comes with Ukrainian endings such as Botnariuc, Botnarenco and Botnarciuc.
Bodnar is the 27th most popular surname in Suceava. Keep that also in mind. Botnar doesn't exist in isolation from Bodnar and Bodnar is more popular (27th vs 48th).

Aspirin

01-05-2021, 12:10 AM

And if you look at additional variations for this surname, you will see that it unsurprisingly also comes with Ukrainian endings such as Botnariuc, Botnarenco and Botnarciuc.

These are ukrainized surnames, they are absent from Ukraine almost totally, and people with such surnames are directly or indirectly connected to Moldova, same story with Butnarciuc/Butnariuc/Butnarenco.

Ion Basescul

01-05-2021, 12:14 AM

These are ukrainized surnames, they are absent from Ukraine almost totally, and people with such surnames are directly or indirectly connected to Moldova, same story with Butnarciuc/Butnariuc/Butnarenco.

Those that apply such endings to Bodnar are pretty numerous in Ukraine. To me it looks like the original carriers of this surname to Moldova changed the letter when they got romanised and then it spread like this. Bodnari/Bodnar/Bodnariuc still exist here though. Otherwise, I can't explain why it's not a word and that is not normal for surnames. If you ask anyone what botnar means, I can almost guarantee you that those who will take the guess will suggest that it's something to do with the mouth. Mr. No-mouth :D

Aspirin

01-05-2021, 12:28 AM

Those that apply such endings to Bodnar are pretty numerous in Ukraine. To me it looks like the original carriers of this surname to Moldova changed the letter when they got romanised and then it spread like this. Otherwise, I can't explain why it's not a word and that is not normal for surnames. If you ask anyone what botnar means, I can almost guarantee you that those who will take the guess will suggest that it's something to do with the mouth. Mr. No-mouth :D

Bodnar is a different story, I said about Botnar/Butnar. For example a big chunk of people with surname Butnarciuc are located in a region near Bug river, where live Moldavian colonists. But the most simple way to search people with all these surnames is VK, majority of people with these surnames are always connected with Moldova directly or indirectly. Ukrainians have surname Kushnir, who doesn't mean anything for them, and is connected with Jews, but is a popular surname between them.

Ion Basescul

01-05-2021, 12:40 AM

Bodnar is a different story, I said about Botnar/Butnar. For example a big chunk of people with surname Butnarciuc are located in a region near Bug river, where live Moldavian colonists. But the most simple way to search people with all these surnames is VK, majority of people with these surnames are always connected with Moldova directly or indirectly. Ukrainians have surname Kushnir, who doesn't mean anything for them, and is connected with Jews, but is a popular surname between them.

Kushnir still has a meaning in Ukrainian.

https://i.ibb.co/qxJpW9g/image.png

https://i.ibb.co/5GLqVBt/image.png

I can't comment on what you said about descendants of colonists being connected to Moldova culturally, because I didn't research this. But I will be pleasantly impressed, because I know people in my life who live in Chisinau with blatantly Moldovan/Romanian surnames but ethnically identify as Russian.

Leto

01-05-2021, 04:46 AM

Russian from Chisinau, doesn't know of any non-Russian ancestors, but there must be something if you ask me...East Med is too high for unmixed Russians

Send me that kit please if you don't mind. Yes, the East Med is high even for most of Ukraine, ~11%.

Aspirin

01-05-2021, 01:08 PM

I can't comment on what you said about descendants of colonists being connected to Moldova culturally, because I didn't research this. But I will be pleasantly impressed, because I know people in my life who live in Chisinau with blatantly Moldovan/Romanian surnames but ethnically identify as Russian.

Many people with Butnarciuc surname live in Domanivka district (https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%96%D0%B2%D1%81%D 1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0 %BD), Mykolaiv oblast.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Domanivskyi-Raion.png/800px-Domanivskyi-Raion.png

Ion Basescul

01-05-2021, 02:43 PM

Many people with Butnarciuc surname live in Domanivka district (https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%96%D0%B2%D1%81%D 1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0 %BD), Mykolaiv oblast.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Domanivskyi-Raion.png/800px-Domanivskyi-Raion.png

Probably in Copani and Frunze, if I were to guess by the origin of the toponyms. However Frunze could also have no relation to them, as he was a Soviet war hero, and such names exist in other places throughout the former union.
We have this documentary from Kirovograd oblast that's just at the top of your image, villages of Martynosha and Grutskoe, which are former Moldovan colonies. Nowadays they are very mixed and the language survives mostly among the elderly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMqfS0BM8PA

Leto

01-05-2021, 03:04 PM

By the way, the Chisinau Russian is J2b (IB never mentions Y DNA). That's uncommon in ethnic Russians, though not totally strange either.

Ion Basescul

01-06-2021, 06:19 PM

By the way, the Chisinau Russian is J2b (IB never mentions Y DNA). That's uncommon in ethnic Russians, though not totally strange either.

It's probably a good idea to make some time to go through my records to collect the yDNA and mtDNA data.

Jana

01-06-2021, 06:21 PM

By the way, the Chisinau Russian is J2b (IB never mentions Y DNA). That's uncommon in ethnic Russians, though not totally strange either.

Interestingly J2b2 has relatively decent concentration in Volga-Ural region, among Mordvins, Chuvashes and Tatars.

Ion Basescul

01-06-2021, 10:23 PM

Interestingly J2b2 has relatively decent concentration in Volga-Ural region, among Mordvins, Chuvashes and Tatars.

That guy is unambiguously Russian paternally at least, which Leto knows. So it's a Russian haplo, but could also be from minorities. When Russians settled here, nobody asked them what ethnicity they were originally at home :D

Leto

01-06-2021, 11:03 PM

J2b is not unheard of in ethnic Russians, that guy is not a "minority" unless he has some Jewish in him or something like that.
Close to 80% of ethnic Russians are R1a, N1a1 or I2a2. If you add R1b and I1 the percentage will rise to 90% or so. That's why I pointed that out.

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 05:50 PM

From Bacau

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Bacau_in_Romania.svg/250px-Bacau_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

20.76
27.29
21.65
10.28
16.69
0.23
0
1.47
0.13
0.62
0.86
0
0

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Compared to others from Bacau

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

20.27
29.07
15.56
13.35
16.72
2.23
0
0.16
0.76
0.72
1.14
0
0

25.87
26.84
16.97
10.82
15.72
1.10
0.45
0.17
0.89
0
0.85
0
0.32

22.55
24.80
21.31
8.66
17.58
1.89
0
0
0.34
1.46
1.29
0.10
0

20.62
26.86
20.13
11.88
14.52
1.60
0.89
0
0.98
1.42
1.11
0
0

21.74
29.09
17.75
6.85
19.55
3.31
0
0.17
1.17
0.36
0
0
0

22.08
27.48
18.09
4.49
22.76
1.90
0.19
2.09
0.46
0
0.19
0.28
0

27.65
28.32
15.21
12.81
7.97
2.20
2.90
0
0.30
1.48
0
0
1.15

20.68
27.83
15.95
11.59
17.86
2.79
0
0.93
0
1.93
0.45
0
0

24.74
24.26
16.57
10.63
17.44
2.73
1.35
1.46
0
0.60
0.21
0
0

24.37
27.43
14.81
10.05
14.49
3.20
2.96
0.37
0.96
0.79
0.51
0
0.06

24.24
27.89
14.20
9.72
16.82
3.08
0
1.03
1.49
0.28
0.76
0
0.48

23.04
29.67
14.32
8.00
19.96
3.18
0
0.19
1.18
0
0.29
0
0.17

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Distance to:
Bacau_ind

5.17271689
Moldova_South

5.42246254
Romania_Banat

5.56498877
Bulgaria_Northwestern

5.59336214
Bosniak_Sandzak

5.62870323
Romania_Oltenia

5.70084204
Romania_average

5.74476283
Serb_south

5.81003442
Romania_Dobruja

5.87856275
Romania_Wallachia

6.10273709
Romania_Transylvania

6.11008183
Romania_Muntenia

6.14633224
Montenegrin

6.25079995
Romania_Moldavia_South

6.39037558
Bulgaria_Southwestern

6.50371432
Bulgaria_average

6.62336017
Romania_Crisana

6.62403955
Pomak_Bulgaria

6.69992537
Romania_Maramures

6.80847266
Bulgaria_Northcentral

6.91428232
Serb

6.94869772
Bulgaria_Southcentral

7.22991010
Serb_central

7.83882950
Macednia_north

7.91430351
Moldova_average

7.96947301
MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Bacau_ind

5.42246254
Romania_Banat

5.62870323
Romania_Oltenia

5.73240787
Romania_average

5.81003442
Romania_Dobrogea

6.10273709
Romania_Transilvania

6.11008183
Romania_Muntenia

6.25079995
Romania_Moldova_Sud

6.62336017
Romania_Crisana

6.63536736
Bulgarian

6.69992537
Romania_Maramures

8.76812979
Romania_Moldova_Nord

9.55636960
Aromanian_North-Macedonia

10.08249473
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander

10.89878434
Romania_Moldova_Csango

11.38024105
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

11.90064284
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

13.82115769
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

16.53085297
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

16.58896923
Romania_Ukrainian

18.29342778
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

22.27132910
Ukrainian_Lviv

27.61235231
Crimean_Tatar

28.91184532
Romania_Jewish

29.83191244
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

33.29525792
Romania_Roma

</tbody>

Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 5.3938% / 5.39381976 | ADC: 0.25x RC
96.6 Romania_Banat
3.4 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

-Banat
Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 5.7263% / 5.72630418 | ADC: 0.25x RC
89.0 Romania_average
11.0 Romania_Muntenia

<tbody>
Distance to:
Bacau_ind

4.82480051
Romania_Oltenia_Valcea

5.08446654
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu

5.36802571
Romania_Banat_Timis

5.38358617
Romania_Muntenia_Prahova

5.56273314
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj

5.67018518
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare

5.84666572
Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti

5.86705207
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

5.90930622
Romania_Muntenia_Arges

5.91479501
Romania_Oltenia_Olt

5.91622346
Romania_Muntenia_Bucuresti

5.92239816
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin

6.01630285
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara

6.04901645
Romania_Transylvania_Alba

6.05735916
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

6.09890154
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

6.10186857
Romania_Oltenia_Dolj

6.10596430
Romania_Crisana_Bihor

6.11997549
Romania_Dobruja_Constanta

6.18092226
Romania_Muntenia_Braila

6.43223911
Romania_Oltenia_Gorj

6.43794998
Romania_Muntenia_Ialomita

6.48798890
Romania_Muntenia_Ilfov

6.51762227
Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea

6.60921327
Romania_Muntenia_Buzau

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 05:58 PM

From Suceava

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Suceava_in_Romania.svg/250px-Suceava_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

29.07
22.81
19.18
5.32
16.58
0.75
3.66
1.13
1.37
0
0.13
0
0

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Compared to others from Suceava

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.74
31.61
13.10
9.18
12.47
0.66
0.78
0
0.86
0.19
0.79
1.61
0

26.88
29.15
13.73
8.13
14.66
2.27
2.06
0
2.15
0.88
0.10
0
0

26.90
27.46
17.28
9.68
14.68
0
0
0
2.21
1.16
0.35
0
0.29

30.06
26.76
16.04
8.87
14.56
1.54
0
1.00
0.58
0
0.60
0
0

25.53
34.27
13.61
7.30
10.70
2.19
1.74
0
2.96
1.22
0.47
0
0

23.46
34.89
15.09
7.43
11.82
3.66
0
0
0.39
2.00
0.65
0.60
0

24.18
33.34
12.99
8.44
13.91
1.23
1.31
1.19
1.84
0.89
0.67
0
0

24.99
32.68
13.35
7.67
16.04
1.42
0.95
0
0.78
1.26
0.87
0
0

29.03
34.47
13.15
6.10
12.78
1.79
0.78
1.02
0.87
0
0
0
0

21.99
33.52
14.77
11.31
11.99
2.49
0.5
1.04
2.23
0
0.16
0
0

23.64
28.74
16.52
6.63
20.14
1.10
0
1.05
0.10
0.66
1.42
0
0

23.25
30.39
14.82
11.44
15.45
0
0.23
0.28
2.95
0
0
1.16
0

24.37
39.23
10.88
6.70
13.46
1.45
0
0
2.62
0.51
0.79
0
0

24.60
32.75
14.70
8.38
10.93
2.70
2.02
0
1.75
1.72
0.25
0.20
0

24.50
37.74
11.01
7.68
12.62
2.75
0.39
0.96
1.12
0
0.26
0
0.98

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Distance to:
Suceava_ind

7.33275528
Romania_Crisana

8.26173105
Montenegrin

8.37367303
Romania_Transylvania

8.41621649
Bosniak_Sandzak

8.60460342
IT_Friuli-VG

8.80827452
Romania_Moldavia_South

8.87279550
Romania_Oltenia

8.98248852
Székely

8.98571088
IT_Trentino

9.15736862
Romania_Maramures

9.21126484
Romania_average

9.24235360
Hungarian_Transylvania

9.30904399
Serb_south

9.32281073
Serb_central

9.51351144
Romania_Banat

9.57654426
Csángó

9.78128315
Serb

9.84556245
Bulgaria_Southwestern

10.01029970
Romania_Wallachia

10.11735637
Romania_Dobruja

10.34663713
Bulgaria_Northwestern

10.51547907
Romania_Muntenia

10.53961100
Moldova_South

10.58626884
Macednia_north

10.59210083
IT_Veneto

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

7.33275528
Romania_Crisana

8.37367303
Romania_Transilvania

8.78752858
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

8.80827452
Romania_Moldova_Sud

8.87279550
Romania_Oltenia

9.15736862
Romania_Maramures

9.24235360
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

9.38065563
Romania_average

9.51351144
Romania_Banat

9.56241078
Romania_Moldova_Csango

10.10716083
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

10.11735637
Romania_Dobrogea

10.51547907
Romania_Muntenia

11.07982401
Romania_Moldova_Nord

11.33387401
Bulgarian

11.85874361
Aromanian_North-Macedonia

12.59123902
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander

15.11386780
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

17.50269408
Romania_Ukrainian

17.81340226
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

23.60075211
Ukrainian_Lviv

28.40649222
Romania_Jewish

29.81960764
Crimean_Tatar

31.94211014
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

32.79856094
Romania_Roma

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Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 4.4585% / 4.45850032 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.6 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
39.0 Romania_Crisana
8.0 Romania_Jewish
6.4 Romania_Roma

-Jewish

Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 4.8913% / 4.89125804 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.9 Romania_Crisana
43.7 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
9.4 Romania_Roma

A certified mess :thumb001:, though it's mostly due to the unbalanced distribution between NA and Baltic that happens with some Romanians. We have at least two users from Romania on this forum with such cases and both are from Moldavia.

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

6.38856791
Romania_Crisana_Arad

6.73361716
Romania_Crisana_Bihor

6.79449777
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud

6.89926808
Romania_Oltenia_Gorj

7.89389638
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

7.90908339
Romania_Transylvania_Alba

7.93037830
Romania_Transylvania_Mures

8.21245396
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov

8.24909692
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu

8.35412473
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare

8.49251435
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin

8.64780897
Romania_Oltenia_Dolj

8.96373806
Romania_Oltenia_Olt

9.02702609
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj

9.07913542
Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti

9.19005441
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

9.20958197
Romania_Muntenia_Prahova

9.30151063
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

9.37149401
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara

9.39533395
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

9.60793943
Romania_Wallachia_1/4Roma

9.65115019
Romania_Maramures_Maramures

9.81668478
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

9.82891652
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

9.93835499
Romania_Dobruja_Constanta

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 06:06 PM

From Suceava

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Suceava_in_Romania.svg/250px-Suceava_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

25.45
31.50
13.01
8.99
11.95
4.09
1.91
0.19
2.63
0
0
0
0.27

</tbody>

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.74
31.61
13.10
9.18
12.47
0.66
0.78
0
0.86
0.19
0.79
1.61
0

26.88
29.15
13.73
8.13
14.66
2.27
2.06
0
2.15
0.88
0.10
0
0

26.90
27.46
17.28
9.68
14.68
0
0
0
2.21
1.16
0.35
0
0.29

30.06
26.76
16.04
8.87
14.56
1.54
0
1.00
0.58
0
0.60
0
0

25.53
34.27
13.61
7.30
10.70
2.19
1.74
0
2.96
1.22
0.47
0
0

23.46
34.89
15.09
7.43
11.82
3.66
0
0
0.39
2.00
0.65
0.60
0

24.18
33.34
12.99
8.44
13.91
1.23
1.31
1.19
1.84
0.89
0.67
0
0

24.99
32.68
13.35
7.67
16.04
1.42
0.95
0
0.78
1.26
0.87
0
0

29.03
34.47
13.15
6.10
12.78
1.79
0.78
1.02
0.87
0
0
0
0

21.99
33.52
14.77
11.31
11.99
2.49
0.5
1.04
2.23
0
0.16
0
0

23.64
28.74
16.52
6.63
20.14
1.10
0
1.05
0.10
0.66
1.42
0
0

23.25
30.39
14.82
11.44
15.45
0
0.23
0.28
2.95
0
0
1.16
0

24.37
39.23
10.88
6.70
13.46
1.45
0
0
2.62
0.51
0.79
0
0

24.60
32.75
14.70
8.38
10.93
2.70
2.02
0
1.75
1.72
0.25
0.20
0

24.50
37.74
11.01
7.68
12.62
2.75
0.39
0.96
1.12
0
0.26
0
0.98

29.07
22.81
19.18
5.32
16.58
0.75
3.66
1.13
1.37
0
0.13
0
0

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Distance to:
Suceava_ind

4.69720129
Bosniak

4.86506937
Csángó

4.96114906
Moldova_North

4.97656508
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.10323427
Croat_South

5.13986381
Croat_East

5.14716427
Moldova_Centre

5.40458139
Croat

5.49471564
Moldova_average

5.65075216
Székely

5.72780063
Croat_West

5.73614853
Hungarian_Transylvania

5.81949311
Serb_north

6.07605958
Hungarian_Alföld

6.67555241
Hungarian

6.78930041
Serb

6.89252494
Serb_central

6.96425875
Romania_Maramures

7.28590420
Croat_North

7.38311587
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

8.04426504
Hungarian_Northern

8.48090797
Romania_Moldavia_South

8.60778717
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

8.71424696
Slovenian

8.98732441
Romania_Crisana

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

4.88317520
Romania_Moldova_Csango

4.97656508
Romania_Moldova_Nord

5.73614853
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

5.97956359
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

6.96425875
Romania_Maramures

8.12193327
Romania_Ukrainian

8.48090797
Romania_Moldova_Sud

8.60778717
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

8.98732441
Romania_Crisana

9.37136596
Romania_Transilvania

9.84148363
Romania_average

10.39493146
Romania_Banat

10.89071164
Romania_Oltenia

11.40612993
Romania_Dobrogea

11.89647847
Romania_Muntenia

12.97937595
Ukrainian_Lviv

13.47644612
Bulgarian

15.53116222
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

16.56726894
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander

16.71559452
Aromanian_North-Macedonia

22.08401005
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

25.98625983
Crimean_Tatar

26.52756114
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

35.47857241
Romania_Roma

35.68564277
Romania_Jewish

</tbody>

Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.8505% / 2.85048538 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.9 Romania_Moldova_Nord
25.6 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
23.9 Ukrainian_Lviv
4.3 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
4.3 Romania_Roma

-Hungarian, Ukrainian
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 3.2524% / 3.25244188 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.3 Romania_Ukrainian
36.3 Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.7 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
5.2 Crimean_Tatar
3.5 Romania_Roma
3.0 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

3.97027707
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

4.88434233
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

4.94044532
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.16411657
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian

5.69661303
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

5.83620596
Romania_Crisana_Salaj

6.23032904
Romania_Maramures_Maramures

6.32553555
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

6.50710381
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

7.59391862
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

8.12193327
Romania_Ukrainian

8.35306531
Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea

8.42628032
Romania_Transylvania_Mures

8.53843663
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud

8.57187844
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

9.31455313
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin

9.50012105
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj

9.58621406
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov

9.64624798
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu

9.66755398
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara

9.95985442
Romania_Transylvania_Alba

10.01536320
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare

10.31322937
Romania_Muntenia_Braila

10.46723937
Romania_Oltenia_Dolj

10.70942575
Romania_Banat_Timis

</tbody>

Leto

01-09-2021, 06:12 PM

I know you don't use any pops from outside of Romania and Moldova but here's what Vahaduo gives for that individual

Target: Suceava
Distance: 1.6554% / 1.65541153 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.3 Swiss_Italian
38.6 Romania_Crisana
15.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
3.9 Austroasiatic_Ho

Target: Suceava
Distance: 1.3390% / 1.33898740 | R4P
49.4 Swiss_Italian
29.1 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
17.2 Greek_Northern-Thrace
4.3 Austroasiatic_Ho

Target: Suceava
Distance: 2.0292% / 2.02917592 | R3P
52.8 Swiss_Italian
34.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
12.4 Balkan_Gypsy

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 06:16 PM

From Suceava

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Suceava_in_Romania.svg/250px-Suceava_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

24.89
29.70
13.45
10.92
13.81
1.22
2.85
0
1.13
0
0.73
1.31
0

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Compared to others

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.74
31.61
13.10
9.18
12.47
0.66
0.78
0
0.86
0.19
0.79
1.61
0

26.88
29.15
13.73
8.13
14.66
2.27
2.06
0
2.15
0.88
0.10
0
0

26.90
27.46
17.28
9.68
14.68
0
0
0
2.21
1.16
0.35
0
0.29

30.06
26.76
16.04
8.87
14.56
1.54
0
1.00
0.58
0
0.60
0
0

25.53
34.27
13.61
7.30
10.70
2.19
1.74
0
2.96
1.22
0.47
0
0

23.46
34.89
15.09
7.43
11.82
3.66
0
0
0.39
2.00
0.65
0.60
0

24.18
33.34
12.99
8.44
13.91
1.23
1.31
1.19
1.84
0.89
0.67
0
0

24.99
32.68
13.35
7.67
16.04
1.42
0.95
0
0.78
1.26
0.87
0
0

29.03
34.47
13.15
6.10
12.78
1.79
0.78
1.02
0.87
0
0
0
0

21.99
33.52
14.77
11.31
11.99
2.49
0.5
1.04
2.23
0
0.16
0
0

23.64
28.74
16.52
6.63
20.14
1.10
0
1.05
0.10
0.66
1.42
0
0

23.25
30.39
14.82
11.44
15.45
0
0.23
0.28
2.95
0
0
1.16
0

24.37
39.23
10.88
6.70
13.46
1.45
0
0
2.62
0.51
0.79
0
0

24.60
32.75
14.70
8.38
10.93
2.70
2.02
0
1.75
1.72
0.25
0.20
0

24.50
37.74
11.01
7.68
12.62
2.75
0.39
0.96
1.12
0
0.26
0
0.98

29.07
22.81
19.18
5.32
16.58
0.75
3.66
1.13
1.37
0
0.13
0
0

25.45
31.50
13.01
8.99
11.95
4.09
1.91
0.19
2.63
0
0
0
0.27

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Distance to:
Suceava_ind

3.58501046
Moldova_Centre

3.81947640
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.09422764
Moldova_average

4.76983228
Bosniak

4.77035638
Serb_north

5.14492954
Romania_Maramures

5.17646598
Serb

5.20205729
Croat_South

5.29934902
Csángó

5.40724514
Serb_central

5.48116776
Székely

5.92366441
Hungarian_Transylvania

6.10670124
Moldova_North

6.22100474
Croat_West

6.23255967
Romania_Moldavia_South

6.67147660
Romania_Crisana

6.75032592
Croat

6.84951093
Croat_East

6.95175517
Romania_Transylvania

7.17390410
Romania_average

7.60310463
Serb_south

7.87501111
Romania_Banat

7.92287195
Hungarian_Alföld

8.07883036
Montenegrin

8.21976885
Romania_Oltenia

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

3.81947640
Romania_Moldova_Nord

5.14492954
Romania_Maramures

5.29473323
Romania_Moldova_Csango

5.86039321
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

5.92366441
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

6.23255967
Romania_Moldova_Sud

6.67147660
Romania_Crisana

6.95175517
Romania_Transilvania

7.28914261
Romania_average

7.87501111
Romania_Banat

8.21976885
Romania_Oltenia

8.84295200
Romania_Dobrogea

9.19150695
Romania_Muntenia

10.53074546
Romania_Ukrainian

10.63253498
Bulgarian

10.96137765
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

14.32552268
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander

14.50407874
Aromanian_North-Macedonia

15.29965359
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

15.77134110
Ukrainian_Lviv

19.65971770
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

25.70926098
Crimean_Tatar

27.49941999
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

32.90552081
Romania_Roma

33.26298092
Romania_Jewish

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Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.5719% / 2.57193934 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.0 Romania_Moldova_Nord
16.3 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
12.5 Ukrainian_Lviv
9.2 Romania_Roma

-Hungarian, Ukrainian, Roma
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 3.6613% / 3.66134787 | ADC: 0.25x RC
95.9 Romania_Moldova_Nord
4.1 Crimean_Tatar

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Distance to:
Suceava_ind

4.34985057
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

4.41837074
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

4.42336976
Romania_Maramures_Maramures

4.47447204
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

4.68420751
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.85058759
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

5.30751354
Romania_Crisana_Salaj

5.76232592
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.91212314
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

6.24161838
Romania_Transylvania_Mures

6.37834618
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

6.64902248
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian

7.04634657
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara

7.05691859
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud

7.06432587
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj

7.18924892
Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea

7.24517081
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov

7.34795890
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu

7.36485574
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin

7.41410143
Romania_Transylvania_Alba

7.91139052
Romania_Oltenia_Dolj

8.09349121
Romania_Banat_Timis

8.15574031
Romania_Muntenia_Braila

8.15817994
Romania_Crisana_Bihor

8.23119675
Romania_Oltenia_Valcea

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 06:18 PM

Leto

01-09-2021, 06:24 PM

Not suprising, that's why it picks Saxon internally. He doesn't have any non-Romanian recent ancestry.
Distant Tzigane is not impossible judging by the oracles.

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 06:26 PM

Distant Tzigane is not impossible judging by the oracles.

Could be unless the South Asian is partially inflated by K13. But 3.66% is not that distant, but about 1/8 or one grandparent.

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 06:35 PM

From Suceava (Bucovina German)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Suceava_in_Romania.svg/250px-Suceava_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

29.67
34.95
12.32
6.28
9.59
3.54
0
0
1.22
0.73
0.94
0.77
0

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Compared to 1/2 Bucovina German, 1/2 Romanian from Vaslui

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

30.72
21.91
14.63
10.87
17.11
2.33
1.47
0.95
0
0
0
0
0

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Compared to Transylvanian Saxons

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.80
23.90
16.40
11.34
15.81
1.81
0.97
0.44
0
0.32
0.14
0.08
0

30.10
26.02
16.78
7.59
14.70
2.70
0
0.83
0
0.89
0
0
0.37

42.38
19.00
19.51
5.95
10.16
0.78
0.72
0
0
1.08
0.43
0
0

41.95
21.58
18.39
4.69
10.93
1.08
0.66
0
0
0.69
0
0
0

39.60
25.27
16.14
6.41
8.05
1.75
0.84
0.85
0.67
0.09
0
0
0.29

38.88
23.90
18.71
4.80
10.71
0.95
1.02
0.40
0
0.61
0
0
0

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Distance to:
Suceava_German

3.43135542
Hungarian_Northern

3.49779931
Croat_North

4.18818576
Slovak

4.20205902
Slovenian

4.21230341
Hungarian_Alföld

4.28530046
Hungarian

4.43222292
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

5.22628931
Croat

5.31512935
Croat_East

6.00516444
Czech

6.19246316
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

6.58833059
Croat_West

7.74703814
Croat_South

8.08694627
Csángó

8.10266623
Moldova_North

8.16666395
Hungarian_Transylvania

8.33807532
Bosniak

8.69078823
Székely

8.77174441
South_Polish

8.80980136
Ukrainian_Lviv

8.91232293
Sorb_Lusatia

8.92856091
Moldova_Ukrainian

9.15767438
German_East

9.78986721
Serb_north

9.88564616
Austrian

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_German

5.54571907
Romania_Ukrainian

6.19246316
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

8.09769103
Romania_Moldova_Csango

8.16666395
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

8.80980136
Ukrainian_Lviv

8.84807214
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

9.89175414
Romania_Moldova_Nord

11.90146630
Romania_Maramures

13.50459181
Romania_Crisana

13.65776702
Romania_Moldova_Sud

14.47138210
Romania_Transilvania

15.16186004
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

15.29429959
Romania_average

15.94006901
Romania_Banat

16.14508594
Romania_Oltenia

17.06990334
Romania_Dobrogea

17.56815870
Romania_Muntenia

18.95644481
Bulgarian

21.95442097
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander

22.02435243
Aromanian_North-Macedonia

27.28920483
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

30.53819084
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

31.13022486
Crimean_Tatar

40.88916605
Romania_Jewish

41.50682715
Romania_Roma

</tbody>

Target: Suceava_German
Distance: 3.0380% / 3.03802103 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
29.2 Romania_Ukrainian
21.4 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
11.8 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

-Ukrainian_Lviv

Target: Suceava_German
Distance: 3.9016% / 3.90158602 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.8 Romania_Ukrainian
21.2 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_German

5.54571907
Romania_Ukrainian

5.69649892
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian

7.59709155
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

7.78053983
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

7.97536206
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

8.80864348
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

9.31438135
Romania_Crisana_Salaj

11.06542362
Romania_Maramures_Maramures

11.20807744
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

11.71909553
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

12.47109057
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud

13.04442026
Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea

13.29372784
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

13.52926458
Romania_Transylvania_Mures

13.88063039
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

14.58001029
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin

14.61289499
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu

14.68428071
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov

14.68618058
Romania_Transylvania_Alba

14.78557405
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara

14.82520489
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj

15.05332854
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare

15.16186004
Romania_Transylvania_Saxon

15.47445960
Romania_Crisana_Bihor

15.57949614
Romania_Oltenia_Dolj

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 06:43 PM

From Chisinau (1/4 Soldanesti, 1/4 Donduseni, 2/4 Chisinau; match of my family through father's line on MyHeritage)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Chisinau_in_Moldova_%28district%29.svg/300px-Chisinau_in_Moldova_%28district%29.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.18
30.33
16.26
10.30
16.92
0.63
0
0
2.35
0
0.87
0.15
0

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Distance to:
Chisinau_ind

3.18909078
Moldova_average

3.47946835
Moldova_Centre

3.98748041
Serb

4.18836484
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.26667318
Romania_Maramures

4.36885569
Serb_central

4.50647312
Serb_north

4.58800610
Serb_south

4.69056500
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.09435963
Romania_average

5.42928172
Romania_Transylvania

5.44866039
Bosniak

5.47275068
Bulgaria_Northwestern

5.50387136
Romania_Banat

5.89864391
Romania_Crisana

5.95979026
Moldova_South

6.26285877
Romania_Oltenia

6.26648227
Croat_South

6.28889497
Romania_Dobruja

6.36864978
Montenegrin

6.42655429
Romania_Wallachia

6.66265713
Romania_Muntenia

6.75431714
Moldova_North

7.17304677
Bosniak_Sandzak

7.26598927
Pomak_Bulgaria

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_ind

3.18909078
Moldova_average

3.47946835
Moldova_Centre

5.95979026
Moldova_South

6.75431714
Moldova_North

9.92781446
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

12.01179837
Moldova_Bulgarian

12.12948474
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

17.23532999
Moldova_Ukrainian

18.11270825
Ukrainian_Lviv

19.29153960
Ukrainian

24.87024326
Russian_Smolensk

26.08617067
Crimean_Tatar

27.58120918
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

29.96136178
Moldova_Jewish

31.51492236
Russian_Pinega

34.27459263
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 2.2187% / 2.21866312 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.2 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
44.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

-Ukrainian, GagauzTarget: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 2.7378% / 2.73780980 | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.0 Moldova_average
4.7 Moldova_Jewish
2.3 Moldova_South

<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_ind

2.24211953
Moldova_Cimislia

3.16779103
Moldova_Ungheni

3.69177464
Moldova_Singerei

4.36671501
Moldova_Chisinau

4.67107054
Moldova_Ialoveni

4.79380851
Moldova_Hincesti

4.88485414
Moldova_Soldanesti

5.00111987
Moldova_Balti

5.27403072
Moldova_Causeni

5.38410624
Moldova_Nisporeni

5.39206825
Moldova_Calarasi

5.58432628
Moldova_Straseni

6.34899205
Moldova_Telenesti

6.45872278
Moldova_Leova

6.45922596
Moldova_Orhei

6.59890900
Moldova_Falesti

6.99629902
Moldova_Briceni

7.16611471
Moldova_Ocnita

7.27365795
Moldova_Edinet

7.44417893
Moldova_Cahul

7.66672681
Moldova_StefanVoda

8.39990476
Moldova_AneniiNoi

8.64438546
Moldova_Glodeni

9.85523719
Moldova_Gagauzia

9.87235534
Moldova_Floresti

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 06:49 PM

From Chisinau (1/4 Soldanesti, 1/4 Donduseni, 2/4 Chisinau; sibling of above)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Chisinau_in_Moldova_%28district%29.svg/300px-Chisinau_in_Moldova_%28district%29.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.62
28.81
15.83
12.82
15.48
0.17
1.73
0.94
1.82
0
0.12
0.42
0.26

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_ind

4.17049158
Moldova_average

4.27284449
Moldova_Centre

5.22851795
Romania_average

5.26765603
Romania_Maramures

5.27157472
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.36301221
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.44957797
Romania_Banat

5.50202690
Serb

5.71144465
Romania_Transylvania

5.95602216
Moldova_South

6.01404190
Serb_south

6.06036303
Serb_central

6.07304701
Romania_Dobruja

6.08050985
Serb_north

6.12281798
Romania_Oltenia

6.15245479
Romania_Wallachia

6.18348607
Bulgaria_Northwestern

6.34595147
Romania_Muntenia

6.35645341
Romania_Crisana

6.78496868
Montenegrin

6.90331804
Bosniak

6.90555573
Bulgaria_Southwestern

6.99516261
Bulgaria_Northcentral

7.06238628
Pomak_Bulgaria

7.17082283
Bulgaria_average

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_ind

4.17049158
Moldova_average

4.27284449
Moldova_Centre

5.95602216
Moldova_South

7.79540249
Moldova_North

8.85131629
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

10.83810869
Moldova_Bulgarian

13.87739529
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

18.43728017
Moldova_Ukrainian

18.94961477
Ukrainian_Lviv

20.30377797
Ukrainian

24.06261416
Crimean_Tatar

25.85902357
Russian_Smolensk

26.46788620
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

29.87628658
Moldova_Jewish

31.70641260
Moldova_Roma

32.55001968
Russian_Pinega

</tbody>

Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 2.0849% / 2.08489669 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.3 Moldova_North
37.9 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
4.0 Moldova_Roma
2.8 Crimean_Tatar

-Gagauz, Roma

Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 3.1431% / 3.14312820 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.0 Moldova_average
27.1 Moldova_South
10.9 Moldova_Centre
7.0 Crimean_Tatar

-Tatar
Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 3.5975% / 3.59751817 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.8 Moldova_Centre
32.7 Moldova_South
0.5 Moldova_average

<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_ind

2.84460894
Moldova_Cimislia

2.94859288
Moldova_Ungheni

4.84724664
Moldova_Ialoveni

5.00914164
Moldova_Singerei

5.09883320
Moldova_Chisinau

5.24975238
Moldova_Calarasi

5.60489072
Moldova_Straseni

5.77055457
Moldova_Hincesti

5.95055460
Moldova_Orhei

6.10149162
Moldova_Telenesti

6.21745125
Moldova_Causeni

6.28522872
Moldova_Balti

6.76583328
Moldova_Nisporeni

7.13287460
Moldova_Cahul

7.20629586
Moldova_Soldanesti

7.33471199
Moldova_StefanVoda

7.70385618
Moldova_Leova

7.74812881
Moldova_Briceni

7.97287903
Moldova_Edinet

7.97521787
Moldova_Falesti

8.38520721
Moldova_Ocnita

8.45576135
Moldova_Glodeni

9.15389535
Moldova_Gagauzia

10.55532567
Moldova_AneniiNoi

10.59983962
Moldova_Bulgarian

</tbody>

Leto

01-09-2021, 06:51 PM

Distance to: Bucovina_German
3.43135542 Hungarian_Northern
3.49779931 Croat_North
4.18818576 Slovak
4.20205902 Slovenian
4.21230341 Hungarian_Alföld
4.28530046 Hungarian
4.43222292 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
5.22628931 Croat
5.31512935 Croat_East
6.00516444 Czech
6.19246316 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
6.58833059 Croat_West
7.74703814 Croat_South
8.08694627 Csángó
8.10266623 Moldova_North
8.16666395 Hungarian_Transylvania
8.33807532 Bosniak
8.69078823 Székely
8.77174441 South_Polish
8.80980136 Ukrainian_Lviv

Target: Bucovina_German
Distance: 1.6729% / 1.67289608 | ADC: 0.5x RC
94.3 Slovak
4.7 Saudi
1.0 Ethiopian_Amhara

Target: Bucovina_German
Distance: 1.3520% / 1.35200568 | R3P
48.5 Swiss_French
42.9 Latvian
8.6 Saudi

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 07:15 PM

From Neamt

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Neamt_in_Romania.svg/250px-Neamt_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

24.61
25.21
15.18
11.46
16.78
1.92
0.23
0.34
2.29
0.97
0.88
0.12
0

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.38
27.17
14.71
13.65
16.38
2.64
0.06
1.68
1.96
0
0.39
0
0

26.34
27.91
12.93
10.38
15.58
2.13
0.49
0.77
2.12
0.75
0.60
0
0

23.95
24.80
18.46
11.96
15.86
1.51
0
0
1.28
0.66
1.02
0.50
0

23.47
28.61
16.83
11.01
13.76
0.42
2.35
0.55
1.81
0
0.61
0
0.58

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Distance to:
Neamt_ind

3.12443595
Romania_Transylvania

3.25989264
Romania_average

3.27013761
Romania_Moldavia_South

3.76848776
Montenegrin

3.77189607
Romania_Banat

3.77353945
Romania_Oltenia

4.01380119
Romania_Crisana

4.14004831
Romania_Wallachia

4.23447754
Romania_Dobruja

4.27132298
Bulgaria_Southwestern

4.46345158
Romania_Muntenia

4.60013043
Serb_south

4.64698827
Moldova_South

4.73024312
Bosniak_Sandzak

4.83818148
Bulgaria_Northwestern

4.86426767
Romania_Maramures

5.17422458
Bulgaria_average

5.38048325
Bulgaria_Northcentral

5.67120798
Serb

5.74853894
Serb_central

5.90475232
Bulgaria_Northeastern

6.04193678
Romania_Moldavia_North

6.12252399
Moldova_Centre

6.13911231
Moldova_average

6.15328368
Bulgaria_Southcentral

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

3.12443595
Romania_Transilvania

3.27013761
Romania_Moldova_Sud

3.31587093
Romania_average

3.77189607
Romania_Banat

3.77353945
Romania_Oltenia

4.01380119
Romania_Crisana

4.23447754
Romania_Dobrogea

4.46345158
Romania_Muntenia

4.86426767
Romania_Maramures

5.67688295
Bulgarian

6.04193678
Romania_Moldova_Nord

7.14872504
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

7.67271790
Romania_Moldova_Csango

7.83373474
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

8.97852995
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander

9.14082600
Aromanian_North-Macedonia

14.09102196
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

14.67238904
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

15.48388194
Romania_Ukrainian

15.80320853
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

21.15871452
Ukrainian_Lviv

24.67546352
Crimean_Tatar

27.53738731
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

27.81680607
Romania_Jewish

32.00190151
Romania_Roma

</tbody>

Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 1.8928% / 1.89275761 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.4 Bulgarian
41.0 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
5.6 Crimean_Tatar

-Bulgarian, Szekely
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.4885% / 2.48848827 | ADC: 0.25x RC
90.3 Romania_Transilvania
7.1 Crimean_Tatar
2.6 Romania_Moldova_Nord

-Tatar
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 3.0604% / 3.06036752 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.1 Romania_average
40.3 Romania_Transilvania
9.6 Romania_Moldova_Csango

<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

2.23850396
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

2.69887013
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov

3.07174218
Romania_Transylvania_Mures

3.17154536
Romania_Oltenia_Dolj

3.29771133
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj

3.57839349
Romania_Transylvania_Alba

3.69303398
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin

3.76797028
Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti

3.79860501
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara

3.95158196
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.01947758
Romania_Banat_Timis

4.05813997
Romania_Muntenia_Ialomita

4.12282670
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

4.20412892
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

4.20512782
Romania_Muntenia_Braila

4.22440528
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

4.23193809
Romania_Oltenia_Olt

4.30305705
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu

4.37573994
Romania_Crisana_Arad

4.39520193
Romania_Muntenia_Bucuresti

4.45244876
Romania_Muntenia_Ilfov

4.45911426
Romania_Muntenia_Dambovita

4.49266068
Romania_Oltenia_Valcea

4.53602249
Romania_Muntenia_Prahova

4.54636118
Romania_Oltenia_Gorj

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 07:34 PM

From Bacau (lots of East Asian/Siberian/Amerind. admixture, but she isn't Csango/Roman-Catholic. Also confirmed the lack of shared Csango founder effect myself by checking her matches.)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Bacau_in_Romania.svg/250px-Bacau_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

24.82
25.71
16.34
11.11
14.35
0.58
0.28
0
4.87
0.86
0.23
0.28
0.57

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Compared to others from Bacau

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

20.27
29.07
15.56
13.35
16.72
2.23
0
0.16
0.76
0.72
1.14
0
0

25.87
26.84
16.97
10.82
15.72
1.10
0.45
0.17
0.89
0
0.85
0
0.32

22.55
24.80
21.31
8.66
17.58
1.89
0
0
0.34
1.46
1.29
0.10
0

20.62
26.86
20.13
11.88
14.52
1.60
0.89
0
0.98
1.42
1.11
0
0

21.74
29.09
17.75
6.85
19.55
3.31
0
0.17
1.17
0.36
0
0
0

22.08
27.48
18.09
4.49
22.76
1.90
0.19
2.09
0.46
0
0.19
0.28
0

27.65
28.32
15.21
12.81
7.97
2.20
2.90
0
0.30
1.48
0
0
1.15

20.68
27.83
15.95
11.59
17.86
2.79
0
0.93
0
1.93
0.45
0
0

24.74
24.26
16.57
10.63
17.44
2.73
1.35
1.46
0
0.60
0.21
0
0

24.37
27.43
14.81
10.05
14.49
3.20
2.96
0.37
0.96
0.79
0.51
0
0.06

24.24
27.89
14.20
9.72
16.82
3.08
0
1.03
1.49
0.28
0.76
0
0.48

23.04
29.67
14.32
8.00
19.96
3.18
0
0.19
1.18
0
0.29
0
0.17

20.76
27.29
21.65
10.28
16.69
0.23
0
1.47
0.13
0.62
0.86
0
0

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Distance to:
Bacau_ind

5.14002918
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.14105048
Romania_Transylvania

5.19036608
Romania_Crisana

5.48986339
Romania_average

5.84294446
Montenegrin

5.86160388
Romania_Maramures

5.87369560
Romania_Banat

6.10040163
Romania_Oltenia

6.18854587
Serb

6.23611257
Székely

6.39366874
Serb_central

6.41315055
Romania_Moldavia_North

6.47079593
Moldova_average

6.52682158
Moldova_Centre

6.63006033
Serb_south

6.64151338
Romania_Dobruja

6.68394345
Romania_Wallachia

6.71359069
Bosniak_Sandzak

6.82904093
Moldova_South

6.90323113
Csángó

6.90827764
Bulgaria_Southwestern

6.95460279
Hungarian_Transylvania

7.03730062
Serb_north

7.04720512
Romania_Muntenia

7.32079914
Bulgaria_Northwestern

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Bacau_ind

5.14002918
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.14105048
Romania_Transilvania

5.19036608
Romania_Crisana

5.62722845
Romania_average

5.86160388
Romania_Maramures

5.87369560
Romania_Banat

6.10040163
Romania_Oltenia

6.27865898
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

6.41315055
Romania_Moldova_Nord

6.64151338
Romania_Dobrogea

6.89117552
Romania_Moldova_Csango

6.95460279
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

7.04720512
Romania_Muntenia

8.41121275
Bulgarian

11.33912695
Aromanian_North-Macedonia

11.79429099
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander

14.29908738
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

14.92043900
Romania_Ukrainian

15.02693914
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

16.21154527
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

19.98937968
Ukrainian_Lviv

23.47873506
Crimean_Tatar

25.59562463
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

30.22246515
Romania_Jewish

32.84190920
Romania_Roma

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Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 3.0576% / 3.05764821 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.4 Romania_Crisana
22.5 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
15.8 Romania_Transilvania
9.5 Crimean_Tatar
3.8 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Bacau_ind

3.96986146
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

4.29016317
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.55342728
Romania_Transylvania_Mures

4.66861864
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud

5.07574625
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin

5.22107269
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj

5.27274122
Romania_Transylvania_Alba

5.41562554
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu

5.48774999
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov

5.49123848
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

5.54332030
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

5.54699919
Romania_Oltenia_Dolj

5.97003350
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara

6.00642156
Romania_Oltenia_Gorj

6.15671991
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare

6.21370260
Romania_Maramures_Maramures

6.23912654
Romania_Banat_Timis

6.26383269
Romania_Crisana_Bihor

6.28993641
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

6.36117914
Romania_Crisana_Arad

6.38249168
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

6.39830446
Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti

6.44234429
Romania_Oltenia_Olt

6.51275671
Romania_Muntenia_Ialomita

6.60365808
Romania_Oltenia_Valcea

</tbody>

Scandal

01-09-2021, 07:37 PM

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 07:40 PM

Can my coordinates for any Romanian or Moldovan ethnicity(Ukrainian etc) other than hungarian? Is there anything similar in the thread?
Universe,28.69,39.52,11.43,3.62,13.02,2.30,0,0,0.4 8,0,0.23,0.72,0

If you count 5% as close then there are some.

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Distance to:
Universe

5.17768288
Romania_Moldavia_64_Vaslui

5.20973128
Romania_Moldavia_17_Botosani

5.81080029
Moldova_72_Chisinau

5.86913111
Romania_Moldavia_16_Botosani

5.92648294
Romania_Moldavia_32_Suceava

6.11692733
Romania_Moldavia_28_Suceava

6.19428769
Moldova_81_Chisinau

6.38043886
Romania_Moldavia_34_Suceava

6.62499057
Moldova_20_Rezina

7.03076098
Romania_Moldavia_13_Botosani

7.57784930
Moldova_2_Ocnita

7.84355787
Moldova_17_1/2Falesti_1/2Chisinau

8.18548716
Romania_Moldavia_10_Botosani

8.47708676
Moldova_73_Chisinau

8.51350692
Romania_Moldavia_24_Suceava

8.72057911
Moldova_11_Balti

8.74379208
Moldova_70_Chisinau

8.77522649
Romania_Oltenia_6_Mehedinti

8.80747410
Moldova_10_Floresti_1/4Ukrainian

8.81017593
Moldova_71_Chisinau

8.87636187
Romania_Crisana_5_Salaj

8.92084637
Moldova_48_Balti

9.09645535
Moldova_78_Chisinau

9.13070096
Romania_Maramures_1_Maramures

9.16019105
Moldova_47_Balti

</tbody>

Scandal

01-09-2021, 07:44 PM

If you count 5% as close then there are some.

<tbody>
Distance to:
Universe

5.17768288
Romania_Moldavia_64_Vaslui

5.20973128
Romania_Moldavia_17_Botosani

5.81080029
Moldova_72_Chisinau

5.86913111
Romania_Moldavia_16_Botosani

5.92648294
Romania_Moldavia_32_Suceava

6.11692733
Romania_Moldavia_28_Suceava

6.19428769
Moldova_81_Chisinau

6.38043886
Romania_Moldavia_34_Suceava

6.62499057
Moldova_20_Rezina

7.03076098
Romania_Moldavia_13_Botosani

7.57784930
Moldova_2_Ocnita

7.84355787
Moldova_17_1/2Falesti_1/2Chisinau

8.18548716
Romania_Moldavia_10_Botosani

8.47708676
Moldova_73_Chisinau

8.51350692
Romania_Moldavia_24_Suceava

8.72057911
Moldova_11_Balti

8.74379208
Moldova_70_Chisinau

8.77522649
Romania_Oltenia_6_Mehedinti

8.80747410
Moldova_10_Floresti_1/4Ukrainian

8.81017593
Moldova_71_Chisinau

8.87636187
Romania_Crisana_5_Salaj

8.92084637
Moldova_48_Balti

9.09645535
Moldova_78_Chisinau

9.13070096
Romania_Maramures_1_Maramures

9.16019105
Moldova_47_Balti

</tbody>

What is ethnicity of these people? Simply Romanian/Moldovan?

andre

01-09-2021, 07:56 PM

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 08:03 PM

Maybe just low sNps coverage. Is 23andme raw data?

MyHeritage

What is ethnicity of these people? Simply Romanian/Moldovan?

Yes, though very outlying/atypical compared to the average. Could easily pass genetically as culturally assimilated minorities.

Roy

01-09-2021, 10:07 PM

Why Romanians & Moldovans score so much West Asian?

Ion Basescul

01-09-2021, 10:36 PM

Why Romanians & Moldovans score so much West Asian?

From ancient Steppe tribes probs, who are also responsible for East Asian/Siberian/Amerind. Crimean Tatars are probably similar to medieval Cumans, Pechenegs, Bulgars, etc.

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Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

scy009_SG_Ukraine_Scythian_SG
32.25
38.12
14.64
6.06
4.22
1.86
0
0
0
1.35
0.18
0.02
1.30

scy010_SG_Ukraine_Scythian_SG_
30.49
32.12
12.24
20.62
2.17
0
0
0
0
1.04
0
1.33
0

scy011_SG_Ukraine_Scythian_SG
25.46
21.85
5.22
32.87
0
0
1.41
0
5.80
4.73
2.66
0
0

scy192_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
25.17
13.29
18.61
11.78
24.56
1.68
1.91
0
0.60
0
2.40
0
0

scy193_SG_Moldova_Scythian_o1_SG
11.12
33.32
0
15.33
0
17.57
5.75
0
0
1.13
4.29
5.39
6.10

scy197_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
19.25
15.80
28.22
3.76
22.72
7.40
0
0
2.85
0
0
0
0

scy300_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
25.15
5.55
24.79
9.86
24.18
6.31
0
2.61
0
1.53
0
0
0

scy301_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
19.51
23.11
13.22
19.06
14.00
0
2.80
0
7.17
0.74
0.38
0
0

scy303_SG_Moldova_Scythian_o2_SG
48.47
28.96
5.57
0.67
8.90
0
3.75
0
0
1.77
1.37
0
0.55

scy304_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
40.23
7.82
20.61
5.99
11.80
0
1.05
3.13
0
7.45
0.95
0
0.97

scy305_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
34.92
7.94
20.66
19.70
11.46
1.06
2.43
0.64
0
0
0
0
1.19

scy311_SG_Moldova_Scythian_SG
32.33
19.41
7.05
13.85
11.68
5.40
0
3.86
0.35
1.81
1.79
2.47
0

scy332_SG_Moldova_Scythian_o3_SG
16.88
0
0
0
0
0
4.56
28.54
34.79
0
15.22
0
0

cim357_Moldova_Cimmerian.SG_2810_ybp
34.86
30.98
0
12.78
3.11
0.35
5.29
0
6.22
3.80
0.91
0.93
0.77

cim358_Moldova_Cimmerian.SG_2840_ybp
19.16
23.28
0
25.22
4.64
0
5.93
4.30
11.56
4.23
1.68
0
0

cim359_Moldova_Cimmerian.SG_2873_ybp
19.80
20.03
0
14.58
0
0
6.16
6.70
26.37
5.64
0
0.70
0.03

MJ12_Moldova-Romania-UkraineThraco_Kimmerian_
17.31
16.47
24.79
14.47
21.96
1.38
0
0
1.28
1.76
0.58
0
0

Crimean_Tatar
13.17
20.04
7.55
16.36
8.88
1.83
3.23
10.25
16.40
1.28
0.47
0.27
0.21

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Chris596

01-09-2021, 11:16 PM

Why Romanians & Moldovans score so much West Asian?

I score around 10.6% West Asian, genetically I'm very similar to Romanians, at least on my father's side. But I'm not sure how the components are determined on K13 for example. Is the ,,West Asian'' component identical to like Iranians or Armenians for example? Because I doubt that 10-15% of the genetics of Romanians/Bulgarians is identical to West Asians, or...?

Jana

01-09-2021, 11:21 PM

I score around 10.6% West Asian, genetically I'm very similar to Romanians, at least on my father's side. But I'm not sure how the components are determined on K13 for example. Is the ,,West Asian'' component identical to like Iranians or Armenians for example? Because I doubt that 10-15% of the genetics of Romanians/Bulgarians is identical to West Asians, or...?

Eurogenes West Asian peaks in Abkhasians, Caucasus people. Stears and me also score above 10%.

Jana

01-09-2021, 11:26 PM

If you count 5% as close then there are some.

Could you do the same for me? I'm curious because now among TA members IncelSlayer is closest to me xD So I wonder how I compare to other individual RO/MD samples?

Stearsolina,27.8,35.43,15.9,10.2,9.6,0.01,0,0.78,0 .21,0,0,0,0

run Stears too please, why not

Stears,28.17,31.21,12.89,10.93,10.61,0.78,2.03,0.2 4,1.9,0.76,0,0.47,0

Ion Basescul

01-10-2021, 10:19 AM

Could you do the same for me? I'm curious because now among TA members IncelSlayer is closest to me xD So I wonder how I compare to other individual RO/MD samples?

Stearsolina,27.8,35.43,15.9,10.2,9.6,0.01,0,0.78,0 .21,0,0,0,0

run Stears too please, why not

Stears,28.17,31.21,12.89,10.93,10.61,0.78,2.03,0.2 4,1.9,0.76,0,0.47,0

Sure, here you go:

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Distance to:
Stearsolina

3.97385204
Moldova_80_Chisinau

4.00792964
Romania_Moldavia_38_Galati

4.13898538
Moldova_18_Falesti

4.65735977
Moldova_13_Singerei

4.75413504
Moldova_89_Chisinau

4.91115058
Moldova_71_Chisinau

4.91554677
Moldova_37_Balti

5.02243965
Moldova_83_Chisinau

5.37134061
Moldova_124_Transnistria

5.38530408
Moldova_1_Ocnita

5.39127072
Moldova_81_Chisinau

5.47597480
Moldova_20_Rezina

5.48938977
Romania_Moldavia_48_Iasi

5.67369368
Moldova_12_Balti

5.87265698
Romania_Moldavia_19_Botosani

5.91962837
Moldova_72_Chisinau

6.08189937
Romania_Maramures_1_Maramures

6.09404627
Moldova_2_Ocnita

6.13724694
Moldova_86_Chisinau

6.13950324
Moldova_82_Chisinau

6.15689857
Romania_Moldavia_20_Suceava

6.24682319
Romania_Moldavia_24_Suceava

6.27340418
Moldova_23_Orhei_IonBasescul_dad

6.41789685
Romania_Moldavia_28_Suceava

6.42659319
Romania_Moldavia_33_Suceava

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The one in bold is IncelSlayer

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Distance to:
Stears

2.66263028
Moldova_86_Chisinau

3.46638140
Romania_Moldavia_20_Suceava

3.51620534
Moldova_124_Transnistria

4.19535457
Moldova_89_Chisinau

4.62479189
Moldova_40_Balti

4.79122114
Moldova_21_Telenesti

4.87759162
Moldova_26_1/2Ungheni_1/2Straseni

4.89615155
Moldova_80_Chisinau

4.94295458
Romania_Moldavia_60_Vaslui

4.98365328
Moldova_23_Orhei_IonBasescul_dad

4.99290497
Romania_Moldavia_2_Botosani

5.04315378
Romania_Moldavia_36_Suceava

5.08581360
Moldova_33_Straseni

5.16120141
Moldova_57_Balti

5.18891125
Romania_Moldavia_37_Suceava

5.28729610
Moldova_39_Balti

5.29341100
Moldova_13_Singerei

5.29903765
Moldova_58_Balti

5.31476246
Moldova_62_Chisinau_IonBasescul_Merged

5.33677805
Moldova_18_Falesti

5.37698800
Moldova_5_Briceni

5.41364018
Romania_Moldavia_40_Iasi

5.42325548
Moldova_83_Chisinau

5.46086989
Romania_Moldavia_33_Suceava

5.46238043
Moldova_37_Balti

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Jana

01-10-2021, 10:30 AM

Thanks :)

Ion Basescul

01-10-2021, 10:32 AM

From Iasi (seems to have some Roma ancestry)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

23.90
28.62
12.32
8.58
17.06
1.83
4.17
0.61
2.02
0.57
0.32
0
0

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Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0

28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0

20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0

21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69

23.47
21.46
16.35
9.42
19.46
4.83
0.78
1.14
2.38
0
0.52
0
0.19

27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08

24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0

23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

23.65
28.15
14.73
10.75
15.39
2.48
1.40
0.91
0.94
0.97
0
0.62
0

22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

28.33
26.91
14.13
10.44
14.83
1.24
2.53
0
0.96
0.33
0
0
0.30

22.27
30.54
17.17
8.17
14.85
3.25
0
0.06
2.15
1.15
0.39
0
0

24.82
28.86
16.91
7.63
16.16
1.99
0.72
0.41
1.50
0.52
0.48
0
0

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Distance to:
Iasi_ind

5.26693459
Moldova_Centre

5.36584569
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.82410508
Moldova_average

5.92158762
Romania_Maramures

6.32214362
Romania_Moldavia_South

6.42077877
Serb_central

6.52719695
Serb

6.74060828
Serb_north

6.92074418
Serb_south

6.98869086
Romania_average

6.99894278
Bosniak

7.00596888
Romania_Transylvania

7.07967513
Csángó

7.14927269
Romania_Crisana

7.24387327
Székely

7.53458028
Romania_Banat

7.56341854
Croat_South

7.72470711
Bulgaria_Northwestern

7.97058969
Hungarian_Transylvania

7.99446684
Romania_Oltenia

8.11579325
Romania_Dobruja

8.15360043
Montenegrin

8.17608097
Romania_Wallachia

8.34242171
Croat_West

8.37305201
Moldova_South

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

5.36584569
Romania_Moldova_Nord

5.92158762
Romania_Maramures

6.32214362
Romania_Moldova_Sud

6.94679063
Romania_average

7.00596888
Romania_Transilvania

7.08398899
Romania_Moldova_Csango

7.14927269
Romania_Crisana

7.53458028
Romania_Banat

7.59925967
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

7.97058969
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

7.99446684
Romania_Oltenia

8.11579325
Romania_Dobrogea

8.41921018
Romania_Muntenia

9.80799164
Bulgarian

12.15246066
Romania_Ukrainian

12.60196413
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.76494810
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander

13.82758113
Aromanian_North-Macedonia

16.57711374
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

18.20175266
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

18.36733786
Ukrainian_Lviv

25.30186159
Crimean_Tatar

27.16344603
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

30.53489152
Romania_Jewish

31.12306219
Romania_Roma

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Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.5019% / 2.50188471 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.7 Romania_Ukrainian
15.7 Romania_Jewish
12.7 Romania_Roma
11.9 Romania_Moldova_Nord

-Ukrainian, Jewish
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.7420% / 3.74199572 | ADC: 0.25x RC
88.9 Romania_Moldova_Nord
11.1 Romania_Roma

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

5.36603205
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

5.80820971
Romania_Maramures_Maramures

5.98652654
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

6.07897195
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

6.20552173
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.22708600
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

6.39346541
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

6.45359590
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara

6.79441683
Romania_Transylvania_Mures

6.79717588
Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea

6.84345673
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

7.06356850
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj

7.13719833
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov

7.19587382
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin

7.36945045
Romania_Muntenia_Braila

7.58897226
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

7.60888954
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare

7.66571588
Romania_Transylvania_Alba

7.70646482
Romania_Crisana_Bihor

7.76949805
Romania_Banat_Timis

7.80903323
Romania_Oltenia_Dolj

7.82453193
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

7.86230246
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu

7.90422039
Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti

7.92782442
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

01-10-2021, 10:41 AM

From Suceava

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Suceava_in_Romania.svg/250px-Suceava_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.30
28.29
14.31
10.08
12.93
3.31
2.36
0.78
1.42
0
0
0
0.22

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.74
31.61
13.10
9.18
12.47
0.66
0.78
0
0.86
0.19
0.79
1.61
0

26.88
29.15
13.73
8.13
14.66
2.27
2.06
0
2.15
0.88
0.10
0
0

26.90
27.46
17.28
9.68
14.68
0
0
0
2.21
1.16
0.35
0
0.29

30.06
26.76
16.04
8.87
14.56
1.54
0
1.00
0.58
0
0.60
0
0

25.53
34.27
13.61
7.30
10.70
2.19
1.74
0
2.96
1.22
0.47
0
0

23.46
34.89
15.09
7.43
11.82
3.66
0
0
0.39
2.00
0.65
0.60
0

24.18
33.34
12.99
8.44
13.91
1.23
1.31
1.19
1.84
0.89
0.67
0
0

24.99
32.68
13.35
7.67
16.04
1.42
0.95
0
0.78
1.26
0.87
0
0

29.03
34.47
13.15
6.10
12.78
1.79
0.78
1.02
0.87
0
0
0
0

21.99
33.52
14.77
11.31
11.99
2.49
0.5
1.04
2.23
0
0.16
0
0

23.64
28.74
16.52
6.63
20.14
1.10
0
1.05
0.10
0.66
1.42
0
0

23.25
30.39
14.82
11.44
15.45
0
0.23
0.28
2.95
0
0
1.16
0

24.37
39.23
10.88
6.70
13.46
1.45
0
0
2.62
0.51
0.79
0
0

24.60
32.75
14.70
8.38
10.93
2.70
2.02
0
1.75
1.72
0.25
0.20
0

24.50
37.74
11.01
7.68
12.62
2.75
0.39
0.96
1.12
0
0.26
0
0.98

29.07
22.81
19.18
5.32
16.58
0.75
3.66
1.13
1.37
0
0.13
0
0

25.45
31.50
13.01
8.99
11.95
4.09
1.91
0.19
2.63
0
0
0
0.27

24.89
29.70
13.45
10.92
13.81
1.22
2.85
0
1.13
0
0.73
1.31
0

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Distance to:
Suceava_ind

3.75035998
Csángó

3.87340935
Székely

4.12035193
Hungarian_Transylvania

4.20980997
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.63273138
Moldova_Centre

4.76273031
Romania_Maramures

4.92229621
Serb_north

4.97049293
Moldova_average

5.13280625
Serb

5.16578164
Croat_South

5.19004817
Serb_central

5.37715538
Bosniak

5.60838658
Croat_West

5.81252957
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.90868006
Romania_Crisana

6.42330133
Romania_Transylvania

6.48607740
Croat

6.95253910
Romania_average

7.16994421
Moldova_North

7.26015151
Hungarian_Alföld

7.27370607
Montenegrin

7.28688548
Croat_East

7.53239006
Hungarian

7.57187559
Serb_south

7.68466655
Romania_Banat

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

3.75082658
Romania_Moldova_Csango

4.06204008
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

4.12035193
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

4.20980997
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.76273031
Romania_Maramures

5.81252957
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.90868006
Romania_Crisana

6.42330133
Romania_Transilvania

7.15738081
Romania_average

7.68466655
Romania_Banat

7.86486491
Romania_Oltenia

8.71012629
Romania_Dobrogea

9.18854178
Romania_Muntenia

10.72701729
Bulgarian

11.04024003
Romania_Ukrainian

11.61011197
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

13.04527117
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

13.52807451
Aromanian_North-Macedonia

13.78284804
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander

16.21120909
Ukrainian_Lviv

18.94138327
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

25.70911900
Crimean_Tatar

27.43923468
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

32.86897017
Romania_Jewish

33.35941846
Romania_Roma

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Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.2795% / 2.27952484 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.3 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
32.4 Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.5 Romania_Roma
4.4 Ukrainian_Lviv
1.4 Crimean_Tatar

-Hungarian
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 3.0500% / 3.04998014 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.5 Romania_Crisana
25.7 Ukrainian_Lviv
5.9 Romania_Roma
3.9 Crimean_Tatar

-Ukrainian
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 3.8461% / 3.84614055 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.0 Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.5 Romania_Crisana
3.3 Romania_Roma
2.2 Crimean_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

4.07388021
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

4.10256018
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

4.13140412
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.20952491
Romania_Maramures_Maramures

4.49514182
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

4.57343416
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

5.12246035
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

5.19587336
Romania_Transylvania_Mures

5.31316290
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

5.53427502
Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud

5.65402511
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian

5.73810073
Romania_Crisana_Salaj

6.13749134
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

6.28377275
Romania_Transylvania_Brasov

6.68013473
Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin

6.73299339
Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu

6.75234774
Romania_Transylvania_Cluj

6.91590920
Romania_Transylvania_Alba

7.28678942
Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara

7.42911839
Romania_Oltenia_Dolj

7.61738800
Romania_Maramures_SatuMare

7.63127119
Romania_Oltenia_Gorj

7.75138697
Romania_Crisana_Bihor

7.78467726
Romania_Crisana_Arad

7.86951714
Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti

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Ion Basescul

01-10-2021, 01:51 PM

2 kits from Cahul, which push into the Northern end, meaning that there are profiles more typical to the Central/Northern regions in the South as well. I didn't doubt that personally, considering how few kits from the South I have compared to the other regions. But it is still obvious that people here have a more Southern genetic shift on average.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Cahul_in_Moldova.svg/300px-Cahul_in_Moldova.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.62
25.42
17.46
6.44
18.72
2.83
0.23
1.27
0.54
0.37
0
0
0.10

24.24
30.96
16.93
9.20
12.37
3.87
0
0.26
0.80
0.63
0.73
0
0

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Compared to others from Cahul

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

25.52
22.73
18.64
10.79
16.15
1.81
0.56
0.39
1.59
1.43
0.39
0
0

22.29
23.14
18.52
9.30
22.34
0.76
0
0.51
1.65
0.89
0.23
0.38
0

22.37
27.22
20.67
11.29
12.72
2.47
0.35
0
2.30
0.43
0.19
0
0

22.73
24.91
19.63
10.59
16.07
1.66
1.38
0.20
1.36
0.94
0.53
0
0

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Compared to others from the South (in red are the academic samples from the mono-ethnic village of Caplani in Stefan Voda district)

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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.75
29.53
15.63
11.25
16.39
0.98
1.08
0
3.24
0
0.15
0
0

20.92
28.56
14.80
9.67
22.16
0.86
1.64
0
0.64
0
0
0
0.75

25.66
20.54
19.38
7.46
19.11
3.14
0
1.73
1.97
0
0.31
0.71
0

24.58
26.99
16.65
9.73
18.18
0.81
0.65
0
0
1.67
0.67
0
0.08

21.01
25.42
16.62
11.92
18.51
4.11
0.58
0
0
0
0.50
0.51
0.82

18.42
25.95
16.17
15.44
17.84
3.82
0.56
0.56
0
1.25
0
0
0

18.27
19.97
19.01
15.32
19.44
4.68
0.12
1.50
0.68
0.54
0
0
0.48

19.84
23.81
19.67
11.16
19.93
3.16
0
0.00
1.21
0.29
0.52
0
0.40

22.08
23.50
19.95
9.57
19.50
3.24
0
1.74
0.34
0
0.08
0
0

16.91
24.06
20.61
12.07
23.58
0
0.52
0
1.03
0
0.29
0.45
0.50

20.23
23.81
21.69
7.85
19.98
3.35
0
0
2.91
0
0.19
0
0

21.08
28.93
14.78
9.89
19.66
4.48
0.57
0.61
0
0
0
0
0

21.23
24.68
15.16
12.29
20.35
3.67
0
0
2.38
0
0.25
0
0

26.39
24.34
17.44
13.21
12.41
4.18
0
0.31
0.71
0
0.89
0
0.12

18.04
26.87
17.24
12.49
19.31
2.99
0.68
0.27
1.35
0.76
0
0
0

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Distance to:
Cahul_1

4.54221312
Romania_Crisana

4.68525346
Montenegrin

4.92835672
Serb_south

4.93947366
Romania_Transylvania

5.10911930
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.25331324
Bosniak_Sandzak

5.56024280
Romania_Oltenia

5.58098558
Romania_average

5.76673218
Romania_Maramures

5.89134959
Serb_central

6.03054724
Romania_Banat

6.04260705
Bulgaria_Northwestern

6.44412135
Serb

6.50380658
Romania_Wallachia

6.54205625
Romania_Dobruja

6.55199969
Bulgaria_Southwestern

6.78810725
Moldova_South

6.96381361
Romania_Muntenia

7.34267662
Bulgaria_average

7.56006614
Serb_north

7.70142636
Macednia_north

7.71762269
Székely

7.77950513
Romania_Moldavia_North

7.86338985
Bulgaria_Northcentral

7.97129851
Bulgaria_Southcentral

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Cahul_2

3.48228373
Serb_north

3.58121488
Bosniak

3.83489244
Croat_South

3.88984576
Moldova_average

4.03732585
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.14288547
Moldova_Centre

4.20573418
Serb

4.52770361
Serb_central

4.68814462
Romania_Maramures

4.86178979
Moldova_North

5.15688860
Csángó

5.66170469
Croat_West

5.66218156
Croat

5.91814160
Croat_East

6.02821698
Székely

6.30620330
Hungarian_Transylvania

6.37727214
Romania_Moldavia_South

6.86619254
Romania_Crisana

7.10033098
Hungarian_Alföld

7.21888496
Romania_Transylvania

7.48561287
Serb_south

7.52394179
Romania_average

7.83792702
Montenegrin

7.99521107
Hungarian

8.15503525
Romania_Banat

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Cahul_1

6.78810725
Moldova_South

8.57315578
Moldova_average

8.57579151
Moldova_Centre

9.67942147
Moldova_Bulgarian

10.74002793
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

12.34558626
Moldova_North

15.67351588
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

21.34329169
Moldova_Ukrainian

22.04004310
Ukrainian_Lviv

23.22006891
Ukrainian

26.85663233
Moldova_Jewish

28.91188164
Russian_Smolensk

29.09640871
Crimean_Tatar

31.15764433
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

34.29241024
Moldova_Roma

36.18799844
Russian_Pinega

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Target: Cahul_1
Distance: 4.8781% / 4.87805567 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
34.8 Moldova_Bulgarian
18.2 Moldova_Jewish

-Bulgarian, Jewish

Target: Cahul_1
Distance: 5.5243% / 5.52425400 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
32.2 Moldova_South
23.0 Moldova_Jewish

-Jewish
Target: Cahul_1
Distance: 6.2763% / 6.27625037 | ADC: 0.25x RC
84.7 Moldova_South
15.3 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

-Ivano_Frankivsk
Target: Cahul_1
Distance: 6.5010% / 6.50099404 | ADC: 0.25x RC
91.2 Moldova_South
8.8 Moldova_Ukrainian
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_average
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Russian_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv

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Distance to:
Cahul_2

3.88984576
Moldova_average

4.14288547
Moldova_Centre

4.86178979
Moldova_North

8.76037100
Moldova_South

9.69795855
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

13.49104518
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

13.68229878
Moldova_Bulgarian

14.61683276
Ukrainian_Lviv

14.66735150
Moldova_Ukrainian

16.29474455
Ukrainian

21.91420088
Russian_Smolensk

27.41501596
Crimean_Tatar

28.27935820
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

29.41556784
Russian_Pinega

33.50527421
Moldova_Jewish

36.10480162
Moldova_Roma

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Target: Cahul_2
Distance: 2.3399% / 2.33990454 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.8 Moldova_South
40.5 Ukrainian_Lviv
18.7 Moldova_Bulgarian

-Bulgarian
Target: Cahul_2
Distance: 2.5156% / 2.51562491 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.2 Moldova_South
36.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_average
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_Jewish
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
0.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Russian_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

:oldFunnily enough, for both of them the algorithm picked Moldova_South instead of other regions and then assigned some Ukrainian and Bulgarian, both of which could be real, as there are many culturally assimilated folk there, which is obvious to me from the surnames in some villages.

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Distance to:
Cahul_1

5.09966666
Moldova_Cahul

5.16709783
Moldova_Causeni

5.72429035
Moldova_Cantemir

6.63125177
Moldova_Nisporeni

8.03430769
Moldova_Calarasi

8.13338183
Moldova_Hincesti

8.14411444
Moldova_Ungheni

8.31747558
Moldova_StefanVoda

8.49851752
Moldova_Ialoveni

8.92989362
Moldova_Leova

9.06444152
Moldova_Balti

9.25960042
Moldova_Cimislia

9.34368236
Moldova_Straseni

9.45215848
Moldova_Singerei

9.70296346
Moldova_Ocnita

9.94607460
Moldova_Bulgarian

10.06715948
Moldova_Falesti

10.29982039
Moldova_Chisinau

10.50550332
Moldova_Gagauzia

10.59627765
Moldova_Soldanesti

11.04629350
Moldova_Telenesti

12.18355039
Moldova_Orhei

12.48625244
Moldova_AneniiNoi

12.92835256
Moldova_Briceni

13.17877840
Moldova_Rezina

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Cahul_2

2.80658155
Moldova_Straseni

3.16567528
Moldova_Ialoveni

3.59001393
Moldova_Ocnita

4.05018518
Moldova_Singerei

4.17127079
Moldova_Telenesti

4.27352314
Moldova_Chisinau

4.41778225
Moldova_Balti

4.42696284
Moldova_Calarasi

4.83019668
Moldova_Falesti

5.31625808
Moldova_Hincesti

5.48460573
Moldova_Edinet

5.80025861
Moldova_Orhei

6.40078120
Moldova_Soldanesti

6.46199660
Moldova_Nisporeni

6.59399727
Moldova_Briceni

6.61794530
Moldova_Glodeni

6.82428751
Moldova_Cimislia

6.83621972
Moldova_Ungheni

7.08170177
Moldova_Cahul

7.45020134
Moldova_Transnistria

7.61431546
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

7.84711412
Moldova_Causeni

8.08032178
Moldova_AneniiNoi

8.48486299
Moldova_Rezina

10.14924628
Moldova_Floresti

</tbody>

Leto

01-10-2021, 02:15 PM

From Iasi (seems to have some Roma ancestry)

The distant Romani didn't prevent them from having typically balanced components. 1/8 is distant in my book.

Ion Basescul

01-15-2021, 09:56 AM

Aspirin

01-15-2021, 10:02 AM

Anghelesti Vrancea

Doesn't matter, is located on the border with Bacau county, a region historically influenced by Hungarians.

Ion Basescul

01-15-2021, 10:14 AM

Doesn't matter, is located on the border with Bacau county, a region historically influenced by Hungarians.

Yes, that is a trend for some people there. And it can be a bit tricky at the beginning to distinguish between Hungarian and Romanian, because a lot of them don't identify as such.

Remember the 22 or so Csangos that we have? None of them identifies as Hungarian/Csango but as Romanian or Catholic Romanian. The person that provided me with 20 kits confirmed that she knows that for some the grandparents spoke the Csango dialect, while for others it is more distant at great-grandparent level. They are aware that their ancestors were Hungarians, but don't see themselves as such. As she said, she didn't even know what a Csango was before doing the autosomal test and learning about them and then growing more interested to test other villagers.
But they are all Csangos from a genetic aspect, because they did not mix outside of those villages. And in their case it is easier to preserve their Csango mix undilluted, because they choose a partner according to their faith, which is Roman-Catholic. And in that region Roman-Catholics are almost exclusively Csangos/Hungarians. What also unites them is a genetic signal that is typical of populations that derive from partially inbred ancestors, like Jews for example.

That's why when someone has Csango ancestry, they will see a lot of such matches at the top, primarily from these kits because they are picked from about 4 major Roman-Catholic villages in Neamt county.
This is not the case for the individual from above, which makes me think that her East Asian/Siberian mix could be unrelated to Hungarians.

Ion Basescul

01-17-2021, 11:55 AM

From Riscani (rural Ukrainian)

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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

27.93
38.24
10.90
8.27
6.99
2.95
1.48
1.05
0.42
1.26
0
0.50
0

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Compared to the other Ukrainian from Riscani (2/4 Riscani, 1/4 Glodeni just on the "border" and 1/4 Poltava) that I have (different villages)

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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

25.50
39.14
13.68
10.09
7.49
0.57
0.24
0.75
1.75
0
0.39
0.10
0.30

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Distance to:
Riscani_Ukrainian

3.49157558
Ukrainian_Galicia

4.70904449
Ukrainian_Carpathian

4.86954823
Slovak

5.72064682
Moldova_Ukrainian

5.88828498
South_Polish

6.37793070
Hungarian_Northern

6.60820702
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

6.79320248
Czech

6.92843417
Croat_North

7.44335274
Sorb_Lusatia

7.61000000
Slovenian

7.68363195
Croat_East

7.89595466
Hungarian_Alföld

8.21832100
Hungarian

8.22907042
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

8.23327395
Ukrainian

8.57885190
Croat

9.06027042
Polish

9.10723888
Moldova_North

9.85839236
Masurian

10.21918294
Russian_Southwest

10.25522306
Ukrainian_Belgorod

10.41218997
Croat_West

10.67582784
Bosniak

10.82304948
Croat_South

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Riscani_Ukrainian

3.49157558
Ukrainian_Galicia

4.70904449
Ukrainian_Carpathian

4.74522918
Ukrainian_Lviv

5.72064682
Moldova_Ukrainian

6.60820702
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

8.23327395
Ukrainian

9.10723888
Moldova_North

10.25522306
Ukrainian_Belgorod

11.35532474
Russian_Smolensk

12.91230034
Moldova_Centre

13.14784013
Moldova_average

19.69397624
Moldova_South

20.08850495
Russian_Pinega

24.06837967
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

24.18836290
Moldova_Bulgarian

30.27048232
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

31.20858696
Crimean_Tatar

42.26994322
Moldova_Roma

43.66941951
Moldova_Jewish

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Target: Riscani_Ukrainian
Distance: 3.0108% / 3.01080072 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.7 Ukrainian_Galicia
23.9 Ukrainian_Lviv
3.0 Moldova_Roma
2.4 Crimean_Tatar

-Roma
Target: Riscani_Ukrainian
Distance: 3.1278% / 3.12777058 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.3 Ukrainian_Galicia
9.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
4.9 Crimean_Tatar

-Tatar
Target: Riscani_Ukrainian
Distance: 3.3404% / 3.34037278 | ADC: 0.25x RC
84.5 Ukrainian_Galicia
9.6 Moldova_Centre
5.9 Ukrainian_Belgorod

<tbody>
Distance to:
Riscani_Ukrainian

3.49157558
Ukrainian_Galicia

4.70904449
Ukrainian_Carpathian

4.74522918
Ukrainian_Lviv

5.71205742
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

5.72064682
Moldova_Ukrainian

6.60820702
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

7.02258499
Moldova_Transnistria

7.13075732
Moldova_Rezina

8.23327395
Ukrainian

9.35714700
Moldova_Briceni

9.57935280
Moldova_Falesti

9.99450349
Moldova_Edinet

10.25522306
Ukrainian_Belgorod

10.29368739
Moldova_Glodeni

10.38870541
Moldova_Floresti

10.41320316
Moldova_Ocnita

10.56033143
Moldova_Orhei

10.62372345
Moldova_Telenesti

11.13404688
Moldova_Balti

11.35532474
Russian_Smolensk

11.69388729
Moldova_Chisinau

11.90408333
Moldova_AneniiNoi

12.09261345
Moldova_Straseni

12.26859405
Moldova_Soldanesti

12.41815606
Moldova_Singerei

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

01-17-2021, 12:15 PM

Apricity user Art23 (1/2 Ukrainian from Vinnytsia, 1/2 Ukrainian-speaking Ukrainian from Chisinau, who he suspects could have been Ukrainianised Moldovan/Romanian ethnic)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Vinnytsia_in_Ukraine.svg/275px-Vinnytsia_in_Ukraine.svg.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Chisinau_in_Moldova_%28district%29.svg/300px-Chisinau_in_Moldova_%28district%29.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.88
39.32
12.60
8.80
12.61
0.88
0.39
0.38
0.99
0.82
1.34
0
0

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Distance to:
Art23

5.98939897
Ukrainian_Carpathian

6.02347076
Moldova_North

6.04254913
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

7.14919576
Croat_East

8.15983456
Ukrainian_Galicia

8.23719005
Bosniak

8.25487735
Moldova_Ukrainian

9.24573956
Croat

9.48653783
Croat_South

9.80773674
Moldova_Centre

9.87536835
Moldova_average

10.12045454
Hungarian_Northern

10.13772164
Romania_Moldavia_North

10.28163411
Croat_North

10.31139661
Serb_north

10.34980676
Hungarian_Alföld

10.67089968
Slovak

10.68082394
Ukrainian

10.70004206
Croat_West

11.42717813
Hungarian

11.62278366
South_Polish

11.63611619
Serb

11.71612137
Slovenian

11.89066441
Serb_central

12.02016223
Russian_Southwest

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Distance to:
Art23

5.98939897
Ukrainian_Carpathian

6.02347076
Moldova_North

6.04254913
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

7.74899994
Moldova_Ukrainian

8.15983456
Ukrainian_Galicia

9.75653627
Ukrainian_Lviv

9.80773674
Moldova_Centre

9.87536835
Moldova_average

10.52959164
Ukrainian

10.68082394
Ukrainian

15.06009960
Russian_Smolensk

16.14900926
Moldova_South

20.07613758
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

22.10202027
Moldova_Bulgarian

22.22756242
Russian_Pinega

29.08941216
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

29.81761392
Crimean_Tatar

39.51811230
Moldova_Jewish

40.32578951
Moldova_Roma

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Target: Art23
Distance: 3.1876% / 3.18763577 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.7 Ukrainian_Belgorod
25.4 Moldova_North
13.7 Moldova_Jewish
8.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

-Jewish
Target: Art23
Distance: 3.7437% / 3.74374279 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.2 Moldova_average
41.9 Ukrainian_Belgorod
3.9 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

-Belgorod
Target: Art23
Distance: 4.0999% / 4.09987336 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.3 Moldova_average
47.7 Ukrainian

<tbody>
Distance to:
Art23

5.28932888
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

5.92116543
Moldova_Briceni

5.98939897
Ukrainian_Carpathian

6.04254913
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

6.30559276
Moldova_Edinet

6.43757718
Moldova_Floresti

7.06867739
Moldova_AneniiNoi

7.16790067
Moldova_Soldanesti

7.41882740
Moldova_Glodeni

7.74899994
Moldova_Ukrainian

7.77645163
Moldova_Falesti

8.15983456
Ukrainian_Galicia

8.17443576
Moldova_Chisinau

8.37120063
Moldova_Orhei

8.58694358
Moldova_Singerei

8.61788257
Moldova_Rezina

8.76335552
Moldova_Balti

9.38104472
Moldova_Ocnita

9.42522679
Moldova_Telenesti

9.75653627
Ukrainian_Lviv

10.04416746
Moldova_Transnistria

10.41270858
Moldova_Ialoveni

10.49814746
Moldova_Straseni

10.68082394
Ukrainian

11.34269809
Moldova_Nisporeni

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

01-17-2021, 12:29 PM

From Bacau

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Bacau_in_Romania.svg/250px-Bacau_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

23.99
25.75
19.11
11.87
15.35
1.65
0.26
0
1.75
0.17
0.10
0
0

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Compared to others from Bacau

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

20.27
29.07
15.56
13.35
16.72
2.23
0
0.16
0.76
0.72
1.14
0
0

25.87
26.84
16.97
10.82
15.72
1.10
0.45
0.17
0.89
0
0.85
0
0.32

22.55
24.80
21.31
8.66
17.58
1.89
0
0
0.34
1.46
1.29
0.10
0

20.62
26.86
20.13
11.88
14.52
1.60
0.89
0
0.98
1.42
1.11
0
0

21.74
29.09
17.75
6.85
19.55
3.31
0
0.17
1.17
0.36
0
0
0

22.08
27.48
18.09
4.49
22.76
1.90
0.19
2.09
0.46
0
0.19
0.28
0

27.65
28.32
15.21
12.81
7.97
2.20
2.90
0
0.30
1.48
0
0
1.15

20.68
27.83
15.95
11.59
17.86
2.79
0
0.93
0
1.93
0.45
0
0

24.74
24.26
16.57
10.63
17.44
2.73
1.35
1.46
0
0.60
0.21
0
0

24.37
27.43
14.81
10.05
14.49
3.20
2.96
0.37
0.96
0.79
0.51
0
0.06

24.24
27.89
14.20
9.72
16.82
3.08
0
1.03
1.49
0.28
0.76
0
0.48

23.04
29.67
14.32
8.00
19.96
3.18
0
0.19
1.18
0
0.29
0
0.17

20.76
27.29
21.65
10.28
16.69
0.23
0
1.47
0.13
0.62
0.86
0
0

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Distance to:
Bacau_ind

3.14525039
Montenegrin

3.14569547
Romania_Transylvania

3.33721441
Romania_average

3.37761750
Romania_Banat

3.39141563
Romania_Oltenia

3.61033239
Romania_Moldavia_South

3.62774034
Bosniak_Sandzak

3.65503762
Romania_Crisana

4.15066260
Moldova_South

4.25028234
Romania_Wallachia

4.31403523
Romania_Dobruja

4.32202499
Bulgaria_Southwestern

4.63962283
Serb_south

4.69052236
Romania_Maramures

4.71488070
Romania_Muntenia

5.00204958
Bulgaria_Northwestern

5.17995174
Serb

5.31619225
Bulgaria_average

5.48928046
Serb_central

5.78996546
Bulgaria_Northcentral

6.27019936
Bulgaria_Northeastern

6.27211288
Bulgaria_Southcentral

6.33704979
Moldova_average

6.51699317
Serb_north

6.64192743
Moldova_Centre

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Bacau_ind

3.14569547
Romania_Transilvania

3.37761750
Romania_Banat

3.39141563
Romania_Oltenia

3.56728188
Romania_average

3.61033239
Romania_Moldova_Sud

3.65503762
Romania_Crisana

4.31403523
Romania_Dobrogea

4.69052236
Romania_Maramures

4.71488070
Romania_Muntenia

5.87258887
Bulgarian

6.73534706
Romania_Moldova_Nord

7.96361990
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

8.21203385
Romania_Moldova_Csango

8.44981657
Aromanian_North-Macedonia

8.50629767
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

9.42079084
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander

13.75840107
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

14.77360146
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

15.82083120
Romania_Ukrainian

15.91235683
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

21.15769127
Ukrainian_Lviv

25.98760089
Crimean_Tatar

28.57170278
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

28.88111147
Romania_Jewish

32.59515608
Romania_Roma

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Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 2.7331% / 2.73314292 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.3 Romania_Crisana
30.7 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
16.2 Romania_Banat
10.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
2.8 Crimean_Tatar

-Aromanian, Ukrainian
Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 2.9575% / 2.95746674 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.4 Romania_Banat
48.1 Romania_Crisana
2.5 Crimean_Tatar

-Crisana
Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 3.0561% / 3.05614093 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.4 Romania_Transilvania
12.9 Romania_Banat
10.7 Romania_Oltenia
2.0 Crimean_Tatar

Likes to push to the West.

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Distance to:
Bacau_ind

3.08535249
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

3.75872319
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

3.79365259
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

4.20639989
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

4.86177951
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

5.11804650
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

7.94382150
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

8.32799496
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

8.44197844
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

8.69543558
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

15.82083120
Romania_Ukrainian

28.88111147
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

01-17-2021, 12:35 PM

From Vrancea

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Vrancea_in_Romania.svg/250px-Vrancea_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

24.25
24.30
18.66
11.37
17.11
0.63
1.57
0
1.23
0.61
0.27
0
0

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Compared to others from Vrancea

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.67
23.88
15.52
12.44
17.04
3.22
1.84
1.26
1.59
0.16
0.39
0
0

23.92
23.07
20.63
9.31
15.68
1.32
2.74
1.52
0.53
1.01
0
0.15
0.13

20.65
26.70
17.19
10.49
19.25
2.39
0.44
0.37
0.84
1.01
0.08
0.59
0

24.82
25.71
16.34
11.11
14.35
0.58
0.28
0
4.87
0.86
0.23
0.28
0.57

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Distance to:
Vrancea_ind

2.36273147
Romania_Oltenia

2.48372704
Bosniak_Sandzak

2.88055550
Montenegrin

2.91886964
Romania_Transylvania

2.92982935
Romania_Banat

3.03478171
Bulgaria_Southwestern

3.08220700
Romania_average

3.21152612
Romania_Wallachia

3.49017192
Romania_Dobruja

3.54526445
Romania_Crisana

3.67285992
Romania_Muntenia

3.84092437
Romania_Moldavia_South

3.86517787
Moldova_South

4.15289056
Bulgaria_average

4.39093384
Serb_south

4.43309147
Bulgaria_Northwestern

4.69730774
Bulgaria_Northcentral

4.99353582
Bulgaria_Southcentral

5.00137981
Bulgaria_Northeastern

5.50245400
Romania_Maramures

5.65687617
Macednia_north

5.89251220
MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE

6.25233556
Serb

6.26575614
Pomak_Bulgaria

6.34617995
Serb_central

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_ind

2.36273147
Romania_Oltenia

2.91886964
Romania_Transilvania

2.92982935
Romania_Banat

3.19494914
Romania_average

3.49017192
Romania_Dobrogea

3.54526445
Romania_Crisana

3.67285992
Romania_Muntenia

3.84092437
Romania_Moldova_Sud

4.58967319
Bulgarian

5.50245400
Romania_Maramures

7.41081642
Aromanian_North-Macedonia

7.77873383
Romania_Moldova_Nord

8.03805325
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander

8.74064787
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

9.17644267
Romania_Moldova_Csango

9.36136208
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

12.14655507
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

14.70247938
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

17.09289033
Romania_Ukrainian

17.23960266
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

22.85586796
Ukrainian_Lviv

26.40022727
Crimean_Tatar

26.89157117
Romania_Jewish

29.46471110
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

30.96298758
Romania_Roma

</tbody>

Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 1.9397% / 1.93970901 | ADC: 0.25x RC
84.8 Romania_Oltenia
7.3 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
4.3 Romania_Crisana
3.6 Romania_Roma

-Saxon, Roma
Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 2.1794% / 2.17937878 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.3 Romania_Crisana
39.3 Romania_Oltenia
10.3 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
2.1 Crimean_Tatar

-Aromanian
Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 2.3080% / 2.30799834 | ADC: 0.25x RC
84.2 Romania_Oltenia
15.8 Romania_Crisana

-Oltenia, Crisana
Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 2.7107% / 2.71069114 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.6 Romania_Transilvania
30.4 Romania_Muntenia

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_ind

2.60990421
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

2.96546792
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

4.30808542
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

4.54400704
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

5.80717659
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

5.89693141
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

6.46375278
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

9.35155067
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

9.78407890
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

9.81271624
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

17.09289033
Romania_Ukrainian

26.89157117
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

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Ion Basescul

01-18-2021, 12:31 AM

From Glodeni (1/2 Hijdieni (https://localitati.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewlocalitate&id=4833) Glodeni, 1/2 Cernoleuca (https://localitati.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewlocalitate&id=3413) Donduseni)

98 cM match of our other guy from Glodeni, so they share either a great-grandparent or gg-grandparent.

https://i.ibb.co/swbZgb7/image.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Glodeni_in_Moldova.svg/300px-Glodeni_in_Moldova.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

18.83
35.80
15.59
10.88
11.39
1.98
1.46
0.60
1.77
1.37
0.20
0
0.12

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Compared to others from Glodeni (his cousin)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.77
34.40
15.61
12.12
9.73
1.40
0
0.83
2.20
1.11
0.82
0
0

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Distance to:
Glodeni_ind

5.61578133
Moldova_North

7.72633807
Moldova_average

7.78569843
Bosniak

7.88043781
Moldova_Centre

8.85633107
Romania_Moldavia_North

8.85931149
Croat_East

9.16265791
Serb_north

9.34378938
Croat_South

9.38620797
Ukrainian_Carpathian

9.77733092
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

9.95726870
Serb

10.34207426
Croat

10.48472699
Serb_central

10.50382311
Romania_Maramures

11.09644538
Csángó-Ceangău

11.41885721
Croat_West

11.62286970
Hungarian_Alföld

11.78093799
Ukrainian_Galicia

11.89789897
Romania_Moldavia_South

12.22605415
Croat_North

12.27487678
Székely

12.39448264
Serb_south

12.50796146
Romania_average

12.66948302
Hungarian_Transylvania

12.78990227
Hungarian

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Kind of a poor distance because of his low North Atlantic value. I think his cousin faces the same issue, because the Moldova_North average (below) is slightly more Northern, specifically Northwestern. Might need readjusting at some point.

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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

23.76
34.32
14.70
9.76
12.20
1.53
0.33
0.50
1.73
0.48
0.32
0.04
0.32

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Glodeni_ind

5.61578133
Moldova_North

7.72633807
Moldova_average

7.88043781
Moldova_Centre

9.38620797
Ukrainian_Carpathian

9.77733092
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

11.78093799
Ukrainian_Galicia

12.22851585
Moldova_Ukrainian

13.01743830
Moldova_South

16.50634726
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

16.79916069
Ukrainian_Belgorod

18.70515704
Moldova_Bulgarian

19.47590819
Russian_Smolensk

25.72917762
Russian_Pinega

26.29024724
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

26.30327166
Crimean_Tatar

36.41503948
Moldova_Roma

36.86979251
Moldova_Jewish

</tbody>

Target: Glodeni_ind
Distance: 5.0727% / 5.07269332 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.2 Moldova_North
11.1 Ukrainian_Belgorod
5.4 Moldova_Roma
4.3 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

-Roma
Target: Glodeni_ind
Distance: 5.3050% / 5.30501687 | ADC: 0.25x RC
89.0 Moldova_North
6.5 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
4.5 Ukrainian_Belgorod

-Romanian_Tatar
Target: Glodeni_ind
Distance: 5.3139% / 5.31392165 | ADC: 0.25x RC
86.4 Moldova_North
6.8 Crimean_Tatar
6.8 Ukrainian_Belgorod

-Crimean_Tatar
Target: Glodeni_ind
Distance: 5.5761% / 5.57609552 | ADC: 0.25x RC
97.4 Moldova_North
2.6 Russian_Pinega

<tbody>
Distance to:
Glodeni_ind

4.18247534
Moldova_Edinet

4.25081169
Moldova_Glodeni

6.32063288
Moldova_Chisinau

6.48718737
Moldova_Briceni

6.83591984
Moldova_Orhei

6.84561173
Moldova_Singerei

7.09701346
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

7.23738903
Moldova_Soldanesti

7.66911338
Moldova_Telenesti

7.79457504
Moldova_AneniiNoi

7.90548544
Moldova_Straseni

8.25476832
Moldova_Balti

8.29970481
Moldova_Ialoveni

8.39045887
Moldova_Falesti

8.70753697
Moldova_Ocnita

8.83133059
Moldova_Hincesti

8.86210472
Moldova_Cimislia

9.81906309
Moldova_Floresti

9.99943998
Moldova_Calarasi

10.04462543
Moldova_Ungheni

10.63733519
Moldova_Transnistria

11.20072319
Moldova_Nisporeni

11.41793764
Moldova_Rezina

12.22851585
Moldova_Ukrainian

12.84753673
Moldova_Causeni

</tbody>

Good distances to Edinet and Glodeni, though they don't have many samples, 2 and 1 respectively.

Ion Basescul

01-18-2021, 01:11 AM

Ion Basescul

01-19-2021, 11:45 AM

I've done some ancestry extractions for some of the mixed people in the database, just for my own entertainment. Obviously, these are not going into the averages.

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Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

Minus 1/2 Ukrainian (with MD Ukrainian average), Chisinau
22.09
32.21
16.97
8.34
13.10
1.55
1.12
1.75
1.47
0.53
0.87
0
0

Minus 1/2 Zakarpatskyi Ukrainian, 1/2 North Moldova (unspecified locality)
24.60
33.99
15.26
8.47
12.42
1.40
0.23
0.42
1.70
0.64
0.75
0
0.12

Minus 1/4 Roma, Nisporeni
25.53
29.10
14.80
11.43
14.52
0.46
0.65
1.02
1.36
0.07
0.60
0.45
0

Minus 1/2 Bulgarian (with MD Bulgarian average), South Moldova (unspecified locality)
20.29
31.97
13.99
10.54
16.96
1.62
0.77
1.28
0.83
1.02
0.51
0.22
0

Minus 1/2 Russian average, Chisinau
23.42
29.30
15.29
9.86
14.75
3.12
1.10
0.32
1.37
0.95
0.52
0
0

Minus 10/16 Ukrainian (with Riscani Ukrainian average), Balti
23.93
32.67
13.70
10.46
14.27
1.56
0.15
1.75
2.79
0
0
0.22
0

Minus 1/2 South Polish, Drochia (Pelinia)
22.56
31.75
14.12
9.90
11.66
2.99
2.00
1.55
1.71
0.29
1.13
0.12
0.22

Minus 1/2 Vinnytsia (with Zhytomyrska average), Chisinau
21.33
28.76
16.81
10.05
17.77
1.39
0
1.25
0.88
1.11
0.65
0
0

Minus 1/2 Ukrainian (wih Riscani Ukrainian average), Chisinau
25.02
28.80
16.24
8.75
15.57
1.51
1.24
0
1.79
0.41
0.39
0
0.18

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Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 01:01 PM

From Singerei

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Singerei_in_Moldova.svg/300px-Singerei_in_Moldova.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

24.47
34.41
16.08
7.67
11.63
1.84
0.48
0
2.71
0
0.71
0
0

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</google-sheets-html-origin>Compared to others from Singerei
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

25.81
33.39
14.59
8.56
11.04
1.78
0.45
1.13
0.97
0
1.61
0
0.68

19.29
30.14
16.78
10.68
19.18
0.74
0
1.61
0.06
0.67
0.87
0
0

23.18
31.34
14.97
9.87
13.15
1.89
1.16
0.39
1.93
1.14
0.15
0
0.83

</tbody>

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Distance to:
Singerei_ind

2.98749059
Moldova_North

3.71533309
Croat_East

4.05060489
Bosniak

4.45424517
Croat_South

4.61129049
Croat

5.51907601
Serb_north

5.69389146
Hungarian_Alföld

5.70735490
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

5.73234681
Ukrainian_Carpathian

5.83686560
Croat_West

5.89802509
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.99753283
Moldova_average

6.03368876
Moldova_Centre

6.23716282
Csángó-Ceangău

6.51167413
Croat_North

6.84496165
Serb

6.90277480
Hungarian

7.04015625
Serb_central

7.23103727
Hungarian_Northern

7.30620969
Székely

7.47279733
Hungarian_Transylvania

7.73343391
Romania_Maramures

7.80568383
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

8.01130451
Slovenian

8.68961449
Ukrainian_Galicia

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Distance to:
Singerei_ind

2.98749059
Moldova_North

5.70735490
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

5.73234681
Ukrainian_Carpathian

5.99753283
Moldova_average

6.03368876
Moldova_Centre

8.68961449
Ukrainian_Galicia

10.78900830
Moldova_Ukrainian

12.20492524
Moldova_South

16.72413525
Ukrainian_Belgorod

16.85344475
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

17.58164384
Moldova_Bulgarian

18.27720712
Russian_Smolensk

25.27109775
Russian_Pinega

27.73538895
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

28.14037313
Crimean_Tatar

36.81363470
Moldova_Jewish

38.24823656
Moldova_Roma

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Target: Singerei_ind
Distance: 2.3341% / 2.33409319 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.5 Ukrainian_Carpathian
27.4 Moldova_South
3.4 Moldova_North
2.7 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

-Ukrainian_Carpathian

Target: Singerei_ind
Distance: 2.5551% / 2.55514697 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.8 Ukrainian_Galicia
30.7 Moldova_North
27.5 Moldova_South

-Ukrainian_Galicia
Target: Singerei_ind
Distance: 2.9072% / 2.90722537 | ADC: 0.25x RC
96.2 Moldova_North
1.9 Moldova_Ukrainian
1.9 Russian_Pinega

<tbody>
Distance to:
Singerei_ind

3.84620592
Moldova_Ocnita

4.04890109
Moldova_Edinet

4.19958331
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

4.28204390
Moldova_Falesti

4.69289889
Moldova_Balti

5.03611954
Moldova_Chisinau

5.13605880
Moldova_Soldanesti

5.24229911
Moldova_Briceni

5.29663100
Moldova_Singerei

5.31857124
Moldova_Straseni

5.40351737
Moldova_Telenesti

5.57640565
Moldova_Orhei

5.60038392
Moldova_AneniiNoi

5.78904137
Moldova_Transnistria

5.99884989
Moldova_Ialoveni

6.05080160
Moldova_Glodeni

6.15762941
Moldova_Rezina

7.07272932
Moldova_Calarasi

7.92403306
Moldova_Nisporeni

8.28150952
Moldova_Cimislia

8.38484943
Moldova_Hincesti

8.79936930
Moldova_Floresti

9.55477368
Moldova_Ukrainian

9.64893777
Moldova_Ungheni

10.56034090
Moldova_Cahul

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Aspirin

02-03-2021, 01:28 PM

From Singerei

Town?

Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 01:51 PM

Town?

Not urban, but this person matches with some Ukrainians closer than with Moldovans, which could indicate a not so distant geneflow. But his results are near the average for the region, so it's not that surprising.

Aspirin

02-03-2021, 01:56 PM

Not urban, but this person matches with some Ukrainians closer than with Moldovans, which could indicate a not so distant geneflow. But his results are near the average for the region, so it's not that surprising.

Home village of this person is neighbouring the village of my mother.

Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 02:00 PM

Home village of this person is neighbouring the village of my mother.

Yes, I noticed that too. Your mom's autosomal profile could turn out to be either very similar or somewhat different. We don't have the luxury of owning many kits from the same village or neighbouring villages, so the best that we've got so far with a comparatively large sample size are those from Caplani in Stefan Voda. And if those are of any indication, people who live nearby can score quite differently from one another.

Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 02:05 PM

Just to update you guys on the status of the project.
I have about 50 more samples waiting to be posted into this thread, and about the same for those threads for Transylvania and Wallachia. I do not rush this by simply dumping everything at once in a table, as I enjoy the process of looking at every individual in detail.

Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 02:18 PM

From Soldanesti (Russian or Belarusian surname, but ethnically Moldovan/Romanian)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Soldanesti_in_Moldova.svg/300px-Soldanesti_in_Moldova.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

23.79
31.29
16.16
10.22
14.34
1.42
0.30
1.48
0
0
0.99
0
0

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.78
33.73
15.02
8.09
15.57
0.30
0.50
0.55
1.55
0.18
0.30
0
1.42

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Distance to:
Soldanesti_ind

2.40908696
Moldova_average

2.44669164
Serb_north

2.63353375
Moldova_Centre

2.73183089
Bosniak

2.90571850
Romania_Moldavia_North

3.18634587
Serb

3.64899986
Croat_South

3.65230064
Serb_central

3.78167952
Romania_Maramures

4.56663990
Moldova_North

5.49226729
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.76495447
Croat_West

6.02521369
Croat_East

6.07978618
Romania_Crisana

6.09456315
Croat

6.29171678
Csángó-Ceangău

6.30717052
Serb_south

6.34035488
Romania_Transylvania

6.37024332
Székely

6.44959689
Romania_average

6.99857128
Hungarian_Transylvania

7.13611939
Romania_Banat

7.25234445
Montenegrin

7.49244953
Bulgaria_Northwestern

7.51435959
Romania_Oltenia

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Distance to:
Soldanesti_ind

2.40908696
Moldova_average

2.63353375
Moldova_Centre

4.56663990
Moldova_North

7.79496632
Moldova_South

9.88851354
Ukrainian_Carpathian

9.99873992
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.20762467
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

12.83455102
Ukrainian_Galicia

13.34618672
Moldova_Bulgarian

14.92336423
Moldova_Ukrainian

18.18590663
Ukrainian

20.31121857
Ukrainian_Belgorod

22.43578392
Russian_Smolensk

27.15956369
Crimean_Tatar

28.51678628
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

30.13004615
Russian_Pinega

32.48219512
Moldova_Jewish

35.40776045
Moldova_Roma

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Target: Soldanesti_ind
Distance: 2.2277% / 2.22767165 | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.2 Moldova_average
6.8 Ukrainian_Galicia

-Ukrainians
Target: Soldanesti_ind
Distance: 2.2565% / 2.25649018 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.5 Moldova_average
17.5 Moldova_North

<tbody>
Distance to:
Soldanesti_ind

2.46083319
Moldova_Singerei

2.59921142
Moldova_Ialoveni

2.88766342
Moldova_Chisinau

3.41885946
Moldova_Balti

3.64950682
Moldova_Straseni

4.05585996
Moldova_Falesti

4.08071072
Moldova_Calarasi

4.13376342
Moldova_Ocnita

4.27475145
Moldova_Telenesti

4.62707251
Moldova_Soldanesti

4.66536172
Moldova_Orhei

4.72793824
Moldova_Nisporeni

4.85816838
Moldova_Hincesti

4.86845972
Moldova_Ungheni

5.19606582
Moldova_Cimislia

5.39844422
Moldova_Briceni

5.67856496
Moldova_Edinet

6.31843335
Moldova_Causeni

6.80969162
Moldova_Cahul

7.03588658
Moldova_Glodeni

7.66285847
Moldova_AneniiNoi

7.96008794
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

8.38352551
Moldova_Transnistria

8.41471925
Moldova_Rezina

8.55216932
Moldova_Floresti

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Aspirin

02-03-2021, 02:20 PM

I have about 50 more samples waiting to be posted into this thread

From MD?

Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 02:27 PM

From MD?

Most are from the Romanian side. For Moldova, I still have 11 samples, out of which 3 are an Ukrainian family who came from Ternopil in Soviet times, 4 are awaiting confirmation on their grandparents' origins and 4 are Moldovans/Romanians. They come from 1) Chisinau, 2) Briceni, 3) Cantemir, 4) 3/4 Donduseni, 1/4 Drochia.

The last one is very weird and looks more like a Hungarian or Austrian.

Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 02:53 PM

From Chisinau

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Chisinau_in_Moldova_%28district%29.svg/300px-Chisinau_in_Moldova_%28district%29.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.49
27.36
14.31
8.07
17.63
3.21
2.49
0.61
2.59
0.41
0
0.81
0

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Distance to:
Chisinau_ind

4.64815017
Romania_Moldavia_South

4.83349770
Serb_south

4.91928857
Romania_Maramures

5.00659565
Romania_average

5.29409105
Romania_Transylvania

5.29816950
Moldova_Centre

5.29863190
Bulgaria_Northwestern

5.34429602
Romania_Banat

5.52821852
Moldova_average

5.57819863
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.75203442
Romania_Dobruja

5.75760367
Serb_central

5.85746532
Serb

5.88603432
Moldova_South

5.95139479
Romania_Wallachia

5.99719101
Romania_Crisana

6.03406165
Romania_Oltenia

6.13132123
Romania_Muntenia

6.21020128
Montenegrin

6.67284047
Serb_north

6.69479649
Bulgaria_Southwestern

6.81610593
Bulgaria_Northcentral

6.92123544
Bulgaria_average

7.13218760
Bosniak_Sandzak

7.44105503
Pomak_Bulgaria

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_ind

5.29816950
Moldova_Centre

5.52821852
Moldova_average

5.88603432
Moldova_South

9.57026123
Moldova_North

9.60134366
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

10.39623970
Moldova_Bulgarian

13.90365060
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

14.25618462
Ukrainian_Carpathian

17.40257452
Ukrainian_Galicia

19.20754800
Moldova_Ukrainian

22.45602146
Ukrainian

24.66555696
Ukrainian_Belgorod

24.87649895
Crimean_Tatar

26.67919601
Russian_Smolensk

26.77477171
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

27.55213059
Moldova_Jewish

31.17605491
Moldova_Roma

32.93580622
Russian_Pinega

</tbody>

Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 1.4533% / 1.45329225 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
25.6 Moldova_Jewish
6.6 Moldova_Roma
5.6 Moldova_Centre
5.6 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

-Jewish, Ukrainians
Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 3.8686% / 3.86860976 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.1 Moldova_Centre
32.2 Moldova_South
5.4 Moldova_Roma
2.3 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

-Roma
Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 4.1553% / 4.15528969 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.7 Moldova_Centre
44.9 Moldova_South
4.4 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_ind

5.22026819
Moldova_Cimislia

5.36133379
Moldova_Nisporeni

5.51356509
Moldova_Ungheni

5.65362715
Moldova_Causeni

5.91653615
Moldova_Cahul

5.96913729
Moldova_Ialoveni

6.00050831
Moldova_Hincesti

6.19416661
Moldova_Calarasi

6.24757553
Moldova_Leova

6.39555314
Moldova_Balti

6.72787485
Moldova_Chisinau

7.03577999
Moldova_Straseni

7.20465128
Moldova_StefanVoda

7.25408850
Moldova_Singerei

7.85734688
Moldova_Soldanesti

8.07496749
Moldova_Falesti

8.29831308
Moldova_Telenesti

9.09701599
Moldova_Ocnita

9.24596669
Moldova_Orhei

9.38707622
Moldova_Gagauzia

9.64088689
Moldova_Cantemir

9.78107867
Moldova_Briceni

9.80666610
Moldova_AneniiNoi

10.16104325
Moldova_Bulgarian

10.50219977
Moldova_Edinet

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 03:16 PM

From Cantemir

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Cantemir_in_Moldova.svg/300px-Cantemir_in_Moldova.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

23.37
29.63
18.88
7.42
15.59
1.27
0.18
2.08
0.93
0
0.35
0.31
0

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Compared to others from Cantemir

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

25.66
20.54
19.38
7.46
19.11
3.14
0
1.73
1.97
0
0.31
0.71
0

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Distance to:
Cantemir_ind

3.46153145
Serb

3.48816571
Serb_central

3.59745744
Romania_Maramures

4.08525397
Serb_north

4.79854145
Romania_Moldavia_South

4.84112590
Moldova_average

4.86959957
Serb_south

4.97604260
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.97977911
Romania_Crisana

5.16119172
Moldova_Centre

5.38545263
Romania_Transylvania

5.55867790
Romania_average

5.57669257
Bosniak

5.58678799
Croat_South

5.98879788
Montenegrin

6.03966887
Romania_Banat

6.21773271
Bulgaria_Northwestern

6.34154555
Romania_Oltenia

6.61869322
Moldova_South

6.70180573
Bosniak_Sandzak

7.02948078
Romania_Dobruja

7.06603142
Székely

7.18707173
Romania_Wallachia

7.25166877
Croat_West

7.65326728
Csángó-Ceangău

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Cantemir_ind

4.84112590
Moldova_average

5.16119172
Moldova_Centre

6.61869322
Moldova_South

7.76024484
Moldova_North

11.39337088
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

11.77367402
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.31793408
Ukrainian_Carpathian

12.33949351
Moldova_Bulgarian

15.37614061
Ukrainian_Galicia

17.38043153
Moldova_Ukrainian

20.66909771
Ukrainian

23.36451155
Ukrainian_Belgorod

25.04168924
Russian_Smolensk

27.68951246
Crimean_Tatar

28.81402610
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

30.68596748
Moldova_Jewish

32.16258511
Russian_Pinega

35.20564301
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

Target: Cantemir_ind
Distance: 3.4030% / 3.40304106 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.5 Moldova_South
33.5 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

-Ukrainians
Target: Cantemir_ind
Distance: 3.9025% / 3.90248313 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.0 Moldova_South
24.0 Moldova_Ukrainian

-Moldova_Ukrainian
Target: Cantemir_ind
Distance: 4.2907% / 4.29067771 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.2 Moldova_South
43.8 Moldova_North

-Moldova_North

Target: Cantemir_ind
Distance: 4.1492% / 4.14920182 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.7 Moldova_South
17.3 Russian_Smolensk

<tbody>
Distance to:
Cantemir_ind

4.05433102
Moldova_Hincesti

4.96087694
Moldova_Soldanesti

5.05548217
Moldova_Cahul

5.13088686
Moldova_Cantemir

5.22764765
Moldova_Singerei

5.25586339
Moldova_Ialoveni

5.47536300
Moldova_Ocnita

5.62481111
Moldova_Straseni

5.76927205
Moldova_Ungheni

5.83681420
Moldova_Causeni

5.92280339
Moldova_Balti

6.03778105
Moldova_Nisporeni

6.09280723
Moldova_Chisinau

6.21930864
Moldova_Calarasi

6.26087055
Moldova_Cimislia

6.82926057
Moldova_Falesti

7.73561245
Moldova_Telenesti

8.03401519
Moldova_AneniiNoi

8.21644692
Moldova_Orhei

8.67319434
Moldova_StefanVoda

8.73012600
Moldova_Edinet

8.91697819
Moldova_Leova

9.06375198
Moldova_Briceni

9.85730693
Moldova_Glodeni

10.74739503
Moldova_Transnistria

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 03:21 PM

From Chisinau (Donated by Leto; Chisinau Ukrainians, originally from Ternopil oblast)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

25.89
39.45
10.64
7.16
11.18
1.18
2.65
1.59
0
0.24
0
0
0

22.30
39.61
14.64
8.35
12.65
0
0.69
1.44
0
0
0.29
0
0

26.32
39.03
9.91
6.40
10.88
1.70
3.86
0.62
0.91
0.37
0
0
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Moldova_Ukrainian_1

4.12998789
Ukrainian_Carpathian

4.57229702
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

5.22218345
Ukrainian_Galicia

5.44941281
Moldova_Ukrainian

6.97642459
Croat_East

7.14327656
Slovak

7.15784185
Hungarian_Northern

7.76562940
South_Polish

8.06769484
Moldova_North

8.09884560
Croat_North

8.30996390
Ukrainian

8.48011792
Croat

8.71409204
Hungarian_Alföld

9.06135751
Slovenian

9.34795165
Sorb_Lusatia

9.35621184
Hungarian

9.39298675
Bosniak

9.53368239
Czech

9.84528821
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

10.02201577
Russian_Southwest

10.02302848
Croat_South

10.02438028
Croat_West

10.42109879
Ukrainian_Belgorod

11.01764040
Polish

11.40304784
Romania_Moldavia_North

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Moldova_Ukrainian_2

5.72281399
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

6.05233013
Ukrainian_Carpathian

6.24437347
Moldova_North

7.19255170
Croat_East

8.03886186
Bosniak

8.23916865
Ukrainian_Galicia

8.48940516
Moldova_Ukrainian

8.95778432
Croat

9.14679179
Croat_South

9.94745194
Hungarian_Northern

9.97134394
Moldova_average

9.97178520
Moldova_Centre

9.98201883
Serb_north

9.99470860
Croat_North

10.13059228
Hungarian_Alföld

10.19909800
Romania_Moldavia_North

10.37586141
Croat_West

10.52538360
Slovak

11.00461721
Ukrainian

11.25668690
Hungarian

11.29764135
Slovenian

11.30799717
Serb

11.54852804
Serb_central

11.62713636
South_Polish

12.02749766
Csángó-Ceangău

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Moldova_Ukrainian_3

4.70291399
Ukrainian_Carpathian

5.05344437
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

5.55879483
Ukrainian_Galicia

5.87308267
Moldova_Ukrainian

7.11783675
Slovak

7.13040672
Hungarian_Northern

7.54956290
Croat_East

7.81547183
South_Polish

8.30248758
Croat_North

8.55163727
Ukrainian

8.83792396
Moldova_North

8.86755885
Hungarian_Alföld

8.88459341
Croat

9.11148726
Sorb_Lusatia

9.16204126
Slovenian

9.24429013
Czech

9.35708822
Hungarian

9.80015816
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

10.01232241
Bosniak

10.14805400
Russian_Southwest

10.34764708
Croat_West

10.53729092
Croat_South

10.77437237
Ukrainian_Belgorod

10.98623684
Polish

11.72987212
Polish_Masuria

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Moldova_Ukrainian_1

4.12998789
Ukrainian_Carpathian

4.57229702
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

5.22218345
Ukrainian_Galicia

5.44941281
Moldova_Ukrainian

8.06769484
Moldova_North

8.30996390
Ukrainian

10.42109879
Ukrainian_Belgorod

11.59993103
Moldova_Centre

11.89618426
Moldova_average

12.27752011
Russian_Smolensk

18.44514570
Moldova_South

20.72757900
Russian_Pinega

22.68472173
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

23.70559428
Moldova_Bulgarian

30.54172556
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

31.37130217
Crimean_Tatar

41.02199654
Moldova_Roma

41.70199636
Moldova_Jewish

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Moldova_Ukrainian_2

5.72281399
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

6.05233013
Ukrainian_Carpathian

6.24437347
Moldova_North

8.23916865
Ukrainian_Galicia

8.48940516
Moldova_Ukrainian

9.97134394
Moldova_average

9.97178520
Moldova_Centre

11.00461721
Ukrainian

13.05766442
Ukrainian_Belgorod

15.41774303
Russian_Smolensk

16.04947040
Moldova_South

20.09313564
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

22.12228514
Moldova_Bulgarian

23.16375901
Russian_Pinega

30.19689885
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

30.87308375
Crimean_Tatar

39.72427973
Moldova_Jewish

40.67919493
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Moldova_Ukrainian_3

4.70291399
Ukrainian_Carpathian

5.05344437
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

5.55879483
Ukrainian_Galicia

5.87308267
Moldova_Ukrainian

8.55163727
Ukrainian

8.83792396
Moldova_North

10.77437237
Ukrainian_Belgorod

12.05866493
Moldova_Centre

12.26439155
Russian_Smolensk

12.42192417
Moldova_average

18.92303887
Moldova_South

20.17432480
Russian_Pinega

23.17521521
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

23.92647070
Moldova_Bulgarian

30.25804356
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

31.25012960
Crimean_Tatar

40.45888036
Moldova_Roma

41.93415672
Moldova_Jewish

</tbody>

Leto

02-03-2021, 03:36 PM

Aspirin

02-03-2021, 03:40 PM

From Chisinau (Donated by Leto; Chisinau Ukrainians, originally from Ternopil oblast)

Are they pure Ternopil Ukrainians? One of them have almost 4% South Asian.

Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 03:43 PM

I hope will appear too (I found him) ;)

He has been posted in the past for Straseni district already.

Leto

02-03-2021, 03:47 PM

Are they pure Ternopil Ukrainians? One of them have almost 4% South Asian.
His mom may have distant Romani, nothing extraordinary for Ukraine. In Russia it'd be much less common, maybe in places like Stavropol krai only.

Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 03:48 PM

Are they pure Ternopil Ukrainians? One of them have almost 4% South Asian.

I can't say as I don't know, but I was told that they are Ukrainians and moved to Chisinau in the Soviet period. 3.86% could indicate some geneflow. I usually draw the line at 4%.

Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 04:10 PM

From Briceni (Ukrainian surnames for both parents, one being rare for Moldova, but ethnically identify as Moldovans/Romanians and all grandparents spoke Romanian as the mother tongue)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Briceni_in_Moldova.svg/300px-Briceni_in_Moldova.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

25.07
36.71
17.96
5.60
10.20
1.39
0.82
0
1.03
0.75
0.38
0.10
0

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Compared to others from Briceni

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

25.05
32.68
12.58
12.66
13.32
0.16
0.10
1.33
0.85
0.70
0
0.23
0.35

22.85
36.30
13.11
9.12
13.06
1.59
0
0
2.69
1.27
0
0
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Briceni_ind

4.71940674
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

5.39522937
Ukrainian_Carpathian

5.84633218
Croat_East

6.24673515
Croat

6.36738565
Moldova_North

6.75242179
Croat_North

6.82337893
Hungarian_Alföld

7.03047651
Croat_South

7.06111181
Bosniak

7.25910463
Hungarian_Northern

7.57215293
Ukrainian_Galicia

7.74434632
Croat_West

7.78531310
Slovenian

7.92753430
Hungarian

8.00642867
Slovak

8.37948089
Serb_north

8.62562462
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

9.01554768
Csángó-Ceangău

9.25164850
Romania_Moldavia_North

9.47517810
Moldova_Ukrainian

9.51853455
Moldova_average

9.59315902
Moldova_Centre

9.68310900
Serb

9.77439001
Serb_central

10.02750218
Hungarian_Transylvania

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Briceni_ind

4.71940674
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

5.39522937
Ukrainian_Carpathian

6.36738565
Moldova_North

7.57215293
Ukrainian_Galicia

8.16908808
Moldova_Ukrainian

9.51853455
Moldova_average

9.59315902
Moldova_Centre

12.37105493
Ukrainian

15.20859297
Moldova_South

15.74423704
Ukrainian_Belgorod

16.55440727
Russian_Smolensk

19.98317042
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

20.62444908
Moldova_Bulgarian

24.19612120
Russian_Pinega

30.53632100
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

31.51269744
Crimean_Tatar

39.71804879
Moldova_Jewish

40.70435480
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 4.1170% / 4.11698237 | ADC: 0.25x RC
86.4 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
13.6 Moldova_South

-Moldova_South, Ivano-Frankivsk
Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 4.8767% / 4.87668397 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.0 Ukrainian_Carpathian
22.0 Moldova_average

-Ukrainian_Carpathian

Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 5.1495% / 5.14950000 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.6 Ukrainian_Galicia
40.1 Moldova_average
1.3 Moldova_North

-Average, Centre, Gagauz
Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 5.2291% / 5.22912142 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.1 Moldova_North
39.9 Ukrainian_Galicia

<tbody>
Distance to:
Briceni_ind

5.27150832
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

5.73166642
Moldova_Ocnita

6.22345563
Moldova_AneniiNoi

7.17901804
Moldova_Edinet

7.38102974
Moldova_Falesti

7.43148034
Moldova_Singerei

7.66065924
Moldova_Transnistria

7.69427709
Moldova_Rezina

8.02117822
Moldova_Soldanesti

8.16908808
Moldova_Ukrainian

8.22136242
Moldova_Balti

8.22574617
Moldova_Glodeni

8.44413406
Moldova_Briceni

8.51755247
Moldova_Straseni

8.69968965
Moldova_Orhei

8.81924600
Moldova_Chisinau

9.13120474
Moldova_Telenesti

9.39249168
Moldova_Ialoveni

10.46555302
Moldova_Calarasi

10.77897027
Moldova_Hincesti

10.90618173
Moldova_Nisporeni

10.96853682
Moldova_Floresti

11.99947916
Moldova_Cimislia

12.96547338
Moldova_Ungheni

13.33692243
Moldova_Cahul

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 04:24 PM

Time for my weirdest sample from Moldova so far

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Donduseni_in_Moldova.svg/300px-Donduseni_in_Moldova.svg.png

From Donduseni (3/4 Donduseni, 1/4 Drochia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

32.06
32.68
10.89
4.25
14.28
2.99
1.31
0
0.75
0.73
0
0.06
0

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I don't have anyone fully from Donduseni or Drochia, but I have people with partial ancestries from there.

1/2 Donduseni, 1/2 Glodeni

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

18.83
35.80
15.59
10.88
11.39
1.98
1.46
0.60
1.77
1.37
0.20
0
0.12

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Daos' dad, 1/2 Drochia, 1/2 Polish

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.11
39.39
12.60
7.73
8.94
2.67
3.34
0.58
0.76
1.18
0.69
0
0

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1/2 Drochia, 1/2 Transnistria Ukrainian

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

25.56
37.62
13.38
6.59
11.84
0.66
1.22
1.12
0.60
0.38
0.42
0
0.60

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Distance to:
3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia

6.38674408
Hungarian

6.53511285
Hungarian_Northern

6.62797858
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

6.90299935
Hungarian_Alföld

6.94720807
Croat_North

6.94974820
Slovenian

6.96068962
Croat_West

7.33150735
Croat

8.07672582
Croat_East

8.28277128
Hungarian_Transylvania

8.60058719
Székely

8.60184864
Slovak

8.90695795
Croat_South

9.20935937
Czech

9.46755512
Csángó-Ceangău

9.57638241
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

9.79775484
Bosniak

9.82754802
Austrian

9.89851504
Ukrainian_Carpathian

10.40636824
Romania_Moldavia_North

10.52224311
Serb_north

10.88765815
German_East

11.02996827
Serb_central

11.19608414
Moldova_North

11.46324561
Ukrainian_Galicia

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia

9.57638241
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

9.89851504
Ukrainian_Carpathian

11.19608414
Moldova_North

11.46324561
Ukrainian_Galicia

11.62524838
Moldova_Centre

12.01520703
Moldova_average

12.07463871
Moldova_Ukrainian

16.35215888
Ukrainian

16.50121814
Moldova_South

19.12269594
Ukrainian_Belgorod

19.56507858
Russian_Smolensk

20.04579258
Moldova_Bulgarian

20.95312387
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

27.32186544
Russian_Pinega

32.54532224
Crimean_Tatar

32.64147668
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

37.45361798
Moldova_Jewish

40.43538302
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

I don't think that we should bother with models, since they fail from the very onset

Target: 3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia
Distance: 8.2197% / 8.21972252 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.5 Ukrainian_Galicia
16.8 Moldova_Jewish
12.7 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_average
0.0 Moldova_Bulgarian
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Moldova_South
0.0 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
0.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Russian_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod
0.0 Ukrainian_Carpathian

<tbody>
Distance to:
3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia

6.38067395
Moldova_Rezina

8.42758566
Moldova_Transnistria

8.60659631
Moldova_Falesti

9.26587826
Moldova_Nisporeni

9.54103244
Moldova_Balti

9.92669633
Moldova_Ocnita

10.53621849
Moldova_Floresti

10.65854118
Moldova_Briceni

10.84101932
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

11.03204877
Moldova_Calarasi

11.42122585
Moldova_Telenesti

11.42482385
Moldova_Singerei

11.44148592
Moldova_Ialoveni

11.46073296
Moldova_Soldanesti

11.71694073
Moldova_AneniiNoi

11.77900675
Moldova_Straseni

11.79790659
Moldova_Chisinau

12.07463871
Moldova_Ukrainian

12.12487938
Moldova_Orhei

13.18474497
Moldova_Causeni

13.32249977
Moldova_Edinet

14.24746995
Moldova_Cimislia

14.45812920
Moldova_Cantemir

14.46253781
Moldova_Cahul

14.57149615
Moldova_Hincesti

</tbody>

Aspirin

02-03-2021, 07:13 PM

Aspirin

02-03-2021, 07:19 PM

His mom may have distant Romani, nothing extraordinary for Ukraine. In Russia it'd be much less common, maybe in places like Stavropol krai only.

Maybe some Steppe influence? High South Asian can be related to Turkic steppe nomads.

Leto

02-03-2021, 07:24 PM

This person is similar to those recent north shifted Csangos from Neamț posted by you, but without cheburek influence. Maybe he have some German ancestry. For example this man (https://www.zaharia.md/en/about/) who made these pictures (https://www.zaharia.md/en/albums/) had some German ancestry and he is almost from the same area.
Cool story (seriously) but the info doesn't say anything about him having German ancestry.

Leto

02-03-2021, 07:27 PM

Maybe some Steppe influence? High South Asian can be related to Turkic steppe nomads.
No way, their Mongoloid is miniscule, below 2%. And by the way Steppe means Indo-European on this forum, not a bunch of fucking Eurasian Muslims ;)

Aspirin

02-03-2021, 07:32 PM

Cool story (seriously) but the info doesn't say anything about him having German ancestry.

https://eepberlin.org/blogs/news/the-archive-of-zaharia-cusnir

What you are seeing here is a selection from the archive of Moldovan photographer Zaharia Cușnir. Cușnir, or Zaharia as most people knew him was born 1912 in the village of Roșietici as the last of 16 children of a local businessman and a mother of German origins.

Aspirin

02-03-2021, 07:34 PM

No way, their Mongoloid is miniscule, below 2%. And by the way Steppe means Indo-European on this forum, not a bunch of fucking Eurasian Muslims ;)

Yes, but these niggas lived in Ukrainian and Moldavian steppes in the past.

Ion Basescul

02-03-2021, 10:21 PM

This person is similar to those recent north shifted Csangos from Neamț posted by you, but without cheburek influence. Maybe he have some German ancestry. For example this man (https://www.zaharia.md/en/about/) who made these pictures (https://www.zaharia.md/en/albums/) had some German ancestry and he is almost from the same area.

Could be, they have some family photos from early 20th century and one line of the family is definitely not dressed like your regular Moldovan villagers. Reminds me more of Midwest Americans, although the surnames are local.

Aspirin

02-04-2021, 03:08 PM

...

Can you send me in PM or post in thread the K15 results of the last samples posted by you here?

Ion Basescul

02-04-2021, 08:12 PM

Can you send me in PM or post in thread the K15 results of the last samples posted by you here?

I have them in K13 with Vahaduo PCA below, but here are the K15 if you prefer that one. Not all of my samples have K15 though, since many are donated K13 values.

https://i.imgur.com/OPokgqp.png

Target: 3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia

<tbody>
North_Sea
19.46 Pct

Atlantic
21.84 Pct

Baltic
18.9 Pct

Eastern_Euro
15.32 Pct

West_Med
6.4 Pct

West_Asian
2.42 Pct

East_Med
11.61 Pct

Red_Sea
2.9 Pct

South_Asian
0.82 Pct

Southeast_Asian
-

Siberian
-

Amerindian
0.31 Pct

Oceanian
-

Northeast_African
-

Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

Target: Briceni_ind

<tbody>
North_Sea
18.74 Pct

Atlantic
14.15 Pct

Baltic
22.82 Pct

Eastern_Euro
16.75 Pct

West_Med
14.32 Pct

West_Asian
3.73 Pct

East_Med
6.78 Pct

Red_Sea
1.44 Pct

South_Asian
0.59 Pct

Southeast_Asian
-

Siberian
-

Amerindian
0.51 Pct

Oceanian
0.16 Pct

Northeast_African
-

Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

Target: Cantemir_ind

<tbody>
North_Sea
16.54 Pct

Atlantic
13.89 Pct

Baltic
17.57 Pct

Eastern_Euro
14.22 Pct

West_Med
15.18 Pct

West_Asian
6.21 Pct

East_Med
12.67 Pct

Red_Sea
1.56 Pct

South_Asian
-

Southeast_Asian
1.83 Pct

Siberian
0.05 Pct

Amerindian
-

Oceanian
0.29 Pct

Northeast_African
-

Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

Target: Chisinau_ind

<tbody>
North_Sea
19.04 Pct

Atlantic
9.59 Pct

Baltic
16.6 Pct

Eastern_Euro
13.27 Pct

West_Med
10.77 Pct

West_Asian
8.57 Pct

East_Med
13.65 Pct

Red_Sea
3.4 Pct

South_Asian
2.09 Pct

Southeast_Asian
0.33 Pct

Siberian
1.94 Pct

Amerindian
-

Oceanian
-

Northeast_African
0.75 Pct

Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

Target: Soldanesti_ind

<tbody>
North_Sea
19.78 Pct

Atlantic
12.34 Pct

Baltic
16.63 Pct

Eastern_Euro
15.94 Pct

West_Med
12.88 Pct

West_Asian
7.99 Pct

East_Med
12.16 Pct

Red_Sea
1.11 Pct

South_Asian
-

Southeast_Asian
0.33 Pct

Siberian
-

Amerindian
-

Oceanian
0.84 Pct

Northeast_African
-

Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

Target: Singerei_ind

<tbody>
North_Sea
14.82 Pct

Atlantic
17.81 Pct

Baltic
23.75 Pct

Eastern_Euro
13.32 Pct

West_Med
11.34 Pct

West_Asian
5.79 Pct

East_Med
9.07 Pct

Red_Sea
1.57 Pct

South_Asian
0.16 Pct

Southeast_Asian
-

Siberian
1.84 Pct

Amerindian
-

Oceanian
0.52 Pct

Northeast_African
-

Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

Aspirin

02-04-2021, 08:17 PM

I have them in K13 with Vahaduo PCA below, but here are the K15 if you prefer that one. Not all of my samples have K15 though, since many are donated K13 values.

https://i.imgur.com/OPokgqp.png

Target: 3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia

<tbody>
North_Sea
19.46 Pct

Atlantic
21.84 Pct

Baltic
18.9 Pct

Eastern_Euro
15.32 Pct

West_Med
6.4 Pct

West_Asian
2.42 Pct

East_Med
11.61 Pct

Red_Sea
2.9 Pct

South_Asian
0.82 Pct

Southeast_Asian
-

Siberian
-

Amerindian
0.31 Pct

Oceanian
-

Northeast_African
-

Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

Target: Briceni_ind

<tbody>
North_Sea
18.74 Pct

Atlantic
14.15 Pct

Baltic
22.82 Pct

Eastern_Euro
16.75 Pct

West_Med
14.32 Pct

West_Asian
3.73 Pct

East_Med
6.78 Pct

Red_Sea
1.44 Pct

South_Asian
0.59 Pct

Southeast_Asian
-

Siberian
-

Amerindian
0.51 Pct

Oceanian
0.16 Pct

Northeast_African
-

Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

Target: Cantemir_ind

<tbody>
North_Sea
16.54 Pct

Atlantic
13.89 Pct

Baltic
17.57 Pct

Eastern_Euro
14.22 Pct

West_Med
15.18 Pct

West_Asian
6.21 Pct

East_Med
12.67 Pct

Red_Sea
1.56 Pct

South_Asian
-

Southeast_Asian
1.83 Pct

Siberian
0.05 Pct

Amerindian
-

Oceanian
0.29 Pct

Northeast_African
-

Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

Target: Chisinau_ind

<tbody>
North_Sea
19.04 Pct

Atlantic
9.59 Pct

Baltic
16.6 Pct

Eastern_Euro
13.27 Pct

West_Med
10.77 Pct

West_Asian
8.57 Pct

East_Med
13.65 Pct

Red_Sea
3.4 Pct

South_Asian
2.09 Pct

Southeast_Asian
0.33 Pct

Siberian
1.94 Pct

Amerindian
-

Oceanian
-

Northeast_African
0.75 Pct

Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

Target: Soldanesti_ind

<tbody>
North_Sea
19.78 Pct

Atlantic
12.34 Pct

Baltic
16.63 Pct

Eastern_Euro
15.94 Pct

West_Med
12.88 Pct

West_Asian
7.99 Pct

East_Med
12.16 Pct

Red_Sea
1.11 Pct

South_Asian
-

Southeast_Asian
0.33 Pct

Siberian
-

Amerindian
-

Oceanian
0.84 Pct

Northeast_African
-

Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

Target: Singerei_ind

<tbody>
North_Sea
14.82 Pct

Atlantic
17.81 Pct

Baltic
23.75 Pct

Eastern_Euro
13.32 Pct

West_Med
11.34 Pct

West_Asian
5.79 Pct

East_Med
9.07 Pct

Red_Sea
1.57 Pct

South_Asian
0.16 Pct

Southeast_Asian
-

Siberian
1.84 Pct

Amerindian
-

Oceanian
0.52 Pct

Northeast_African
-

Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

Thanks man.

Aspirin

02-04-2021, 09:14 PM

https://topicmd.com/pic/smilies/rofl.gif

https://sun9-18.userapi.com/bWVQ_Omntlsc_eSvBeHGDLZz5G42_hBnf3w-Ww/E7dQigpYUqo.jpg

Ion Basescul

02-04-2021, 10:07 PM

https://topicmd.com/pic/smilies/rofl.gif

https://sun9-18.userapi.com/bWVQ_Omntlsc_eSvBeHGDLZz5G42_hBnf3w-Ww/E7dQigpYUqo.jpg

It's not the best PCA imo, as it over-exaggerates small components if I remember correctly. But that person from Briceni and Donduseni/Drochia are at the most Northern end, with the one from Donduseni/Drochia being the Northern-most from Moldova in my database so far, so I guess it makes sense to be that high up.

Aspirin

02-04-2021, 10:17 PM

It's not the best PCA imo, as it over-exaggerates small components if I remember correctly. But that person from Briceni and Donduseni/Drochia are at the most Northern end, with the one from Donduseni/Drochia being the Northern-most from Moldova in my database so far, so I guess it makes sense to be that high up.

Yes, K15 PCA is bad many times. What populations the Oracle of the person from the Capital show in K13/15?

Ion Basescul

02-04-2021, 10:41 PM

Yes, K15 PCA is bad many times. What populations the Oracle of the person from the Capital show in K13/15?

It's close to what was assigned in Vahaduo, before I removed some pops.

"Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 1.4533% / 1.45329225 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
25.6 Moldova_Jewish
6.6 Moldova_Roma
5.6 Moldova_Centre
5.6 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

-Jewish, Ukrainians
Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 3.8686% / 3.86860976 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.1 Moldova_Centre
32.2 Moldova_South
5.4 Moldova_Roma
2.3 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

-Roma
Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 4.1553% / 4.15528969 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.7 Moldova_Centre
44.9 Moldova_South
4.4 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar"

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.54
2 Romanian 5.58
3 Bulgarian 6.83
4 Moldavian 8.97
5 Croatian 11.68
6 Hungarian 11.86
7 Greek_Thessaly 14.13
8 Austrian 15.65
9 East_German 17.05
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.47
11 South_Polish 18.35
12 Ukrainian 18.71
13 North_Italian 19.27
14 Tuscan 19.33
15 West_German 20.35
16 Italian_Abruzzo 20.59
17 Central_Greek 21.1
18 Tatar 21.22
19 Southwest_Russian 21.27
20 French 21.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67% Greek_Thessaly + 33% East_Finnish @ 1.91
2 56.5% East_Sicilian + 43.5% East_Finnish @ 2.3
3 56.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.32
4 61.7% Ukrainian + 38.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.39
5 66.5% Greek_Thessaly + 33.5% Finnish @ 2.5
6 56.3% East_Sicilian + 43.7% Estonian @ 2.54
7 54.8% Ukrainian + 45.2% Ashkenazi @ 2.54
8 53.2% West_Sicilian + 46.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.55
9 54.8% Kargopol_Russian + 45.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.57
10 64% Ukrainian + 36% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.62
11 54.4% West_Sicilian + 45.6% Erzya @ 2.64
12 53% South_Italian + 47% East_Finnish @ 2.65
13 57.5% Central_Greek + 42.5% East_Finnish @ 2.68
14 55.3% South_Polish + 44.7% Ashkenazi @ 2.75
15 63.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 36.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.78
16 50.6% Southwest_Russian + 49.4% West_Sicilian @ 2.78
17 63.9% Greek_Thessaly + 36.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.81
18 51.4% Estonian + 48.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.81
19 61.7% Ukrainian + 38.3% Italian_Jewish @ 2.83
20 55.9% Estonian_Polish + 44.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.84

Ion Basescul

02-05-2021, 07:26 PM

From Suceava

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Suceava_in_Romania.svg/250px-Suceava_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

23.38
32.59
13.73
10.83
13.10
0.67
2.39
0.61
2.35
0.35
0
0
0

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Compared to others from Suceava

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.74
31.61
13.10
9.18
12.47
0.66
0.78
0
0.86
0.19
0.79
1.61
0

26.88
29.15
13.73
8.13
14.66
2.27
2.06
0
2.15
0.88
0.10
0
0

26.90
27.46
17.28
9.68
14.68
0
0
0
2.21
1.16
0.35
0
0.29

30.06
26.76
16.04
8.87
14.56
1.54
0
1.00
0.58
0
0.60
0
0

25.53
34.27
13.61
7.30
10.70
2.19
1.74
0
2.96
1.22
0.47
0
0

23.46
34.89
15.09
7.43
11.82
3.66
0
0
0.39
2.00
0.65
0.60
0

24.18
33.34
12.99
8.44
13.91
1.23
1.31
1.19
1.84
0.89
0.67
0
0

24.99
32.68
13.35
7.67
16.04
1.42
0.95
0
0.78
1.26
0.87
0
0

29.03
34.47
13.15
6.10
12.78
1.79
0.78
1.02
0.87
0
0
0
0

21.99
33.52
14.77
11.31
11.99
2.49
0.5
1.04
2.23
0
0.16
0
0

23.64
28.74
16.52
6.63
20.14
1.10
0
1.05
0.10
0.66
1.42
0
0

23.25
30.39
14.82
11.44
15.45
0
0.23
0.28
2.95
0
0
1.16
0

24.37
39.23
10.88
6.70
13.46
1.45
0
0
2.62
0.51
0.79
0
0

24.60
32.75
14.70
8.38
10.93
2.70
2.02
0
1.75
1.72
0.25
0.20
0

24.50
37.74
11.01
7.68
12.62
2.75
0.39
0.96
1.12
0
0.26
0
0.98

29.07
22.81
19.18
5.32
16.58
0.75
3.66
1.13
1.37
0
0.13
0
0

25.45
31.50
13.01
8.99
11.95
4.09
1.91
0.19
2.63
0
0
0
0.27

24.89
29.70
13.45
10.92
13.81
1.22
2.85
0
1.13
0
0.73
1.31
0

26.30
28.29
14.31
10.08
12.93
3.31
2.36
0.78
1.42
0
0
0
0.22

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

3.41117282
Moldova_North

3.71615393
Moldova_Centre

4.03209623
Moldova_average

4.04946910
Bosniak

4.31808986
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.28066284
Serb_north

5.31126162
Croat_South

5.54430338
Croat_East

6.18005663
Serb

6.47430305
Csángó-Ceangău

6.50675034
Croat

6.57633637
Serb_central

6.63838836
Romania_Maramures

6.93277722
Croat_West

7.09787997
Székely

7.57133410
Hungarian_Transylvania

7.76025773
Hungarian_Alföld

8.08462120
Romania_Moldavia_South

8.28364654
Ukrainian_Carpathian

8.64208887
Hungarian

8.75564389
Romania_Crisana

8.82884477
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

8.89124851
Croat_North

8.95746616
Romania_Transylvania

8.98835914
Romania_average

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

3.41117282
Moldova_Nord

3.71615393
Moldova_Centru

4.03209623
Moldova_average

4.31808986
Romania_Moldova_Nord

6.47430305
Romania_Moldova_Csango

6.63838836
Romania_Maramures

7.56615400
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

7.57133410
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

8.08462120
Romania_Moldova_Sud

8.28364654
Ukrainian_Carpathian

8.61756926
Romania_Ukrainian

8.75564389
Romania_Crisana

8.82884477
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

8.95746616
Romania_Transilvania

8.98835914
Romania_average

9.58785169
Romania_Banat

10.20707108
Romania_Oltenia

10.35804036
Moldova_Sud

10.54886250
Romania_Dobrogea

10.96254989
Romania_Muntenia

12.41460833
Bulgarian

14.20263356
Moldova_Gagauzia

15.38676054
Moldova_Bulgarian

16.97343807
Aromanian

17.69431830
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

</tbody>

Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 1.6838% / 1.68380400 | ADC: 0.25x RC
87.6 Moldova_Nord
6.7 Romania_Roma
3.7 Romania_Moldova_Nord
2.0 Crimean_Tatar

-Roma
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.1592% / 2.15919630 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.1 Moldova_Centru
22.5 Moldova_Nord
20.0 Ukrainian_Carpathian
6.4 Crimean_Tatar

-MoldovaTarget: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.1217% / 2.12168633 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.9 Ukrainian_Carpathian
29.3 Moldova_Gagauzia
7.8 Crimean_Tatar

-Gagauzia, Tatar
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 3.5472% / 3.54723587 | ADC: 0.25x RC
75.2 Romania_Moldova_Nord
24.8 Ukrainian_Carpathian

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

2.41505694
Moldova_Orhei

2.57848793
Moldova_Chisinau

3.32293545
Moldova_Balti

3.35180548
Moldova_Telenesti

3.57289798
Moldova_Singerei

4.00058746
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

4.08634311
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

4.16485294
Moldova_Soldanesti

4.21773636
Moldova_Briceni

4.24911756
Moldova_Ialoveni

4.25256393
Moldova_Falesti

4.34421454
Moldova_Straseni

4.39297166
Moldova_Edinet

5.09991176
Moldova_Calarasi

5.32049810
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

5.45457606
Moldova_Cimislia

5.58367263
Moldova_Glodeni

5.78329491
Moldova_Ocnita

6.11852106
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

6.19000000
Moldova_Nisporeni

6.47430305
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

6.51029185
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.62306576
Moldova_Transnistria

7.09444853
Moldova_Ungheni

7.10035210
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-05-2021, 07:38 PM

From Suceava

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Suceava_in_Romania.svg/250px-Suceava_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

27.06
33.56
13.88
7.63
10.95
2.67
0.92
0
1.53
0.59
0.6
0.6
0

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Compared to others from Suceava

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.74
31.61
13.10
9.18
12.47
0.66
0.78
0
0.86
0.19
0.79
1.61
0

26.88
29.15
13.73
8.13
14.66
2.27
2.06
0
2.15
0.88
0.10
0
0

26.90
27.46
17.28
9.68
14.68
0
0
0
2.21
1.16
0.35
0
0.29

30.06
26.76
16.04
8.87
14.56
1.54
0
1.00
0.58
0
0.60
0
0

25.53
34.27
13.61
7.30
10.70
2.19
1.74
0
2.96
1.22
0.47
0
0

23.46
34.89
15.09
7.43
11.82
3.66
0
0
0.39
2.00
0.65
0.60
0

24.18
33.34
12.99
8.44
13.91
1.23
1.31
1.19
1.84
0.89
0.67
0
0

24.99
32.68
13.35
7.67
16.04
1.42
0.95
0
0.78
1.26
0.87
0
0

29.03
34.47
13.15
6.10
12.78
1.79
0.78
1.02
0.87
0
0
0
0

21.99
33.52
14.77
11.31
11.99
2.49
0.5
1.04
2.23
0
0.16
0
0

23.64
28.74
16.52
6.63
20.14
1.10
0
1.05
0.10
0.66
1.42
0
0

23.25
30.39
14.82
11.44
15.45
0
0.23
0.28
2.95
0
0
1.16
0

24.37
39.23
10.88
6.70
13.46
1.45
0
0
2.62
0.51
0.79
0
0

24.60
32.75
14.70
8.38
10.93
2.70
2.02
0
1.75
1.72
0.25
0.20
0

24.50
37.74
11.01
7.68
12.62
2.75
0.39
0.96
1.12
0
0.26
0
0.98

29.07
22.81
19.18
5.32
16.58
0.75
3.66
1.13
1.37
0
0.13
0
0

25.45
31.50
13.01
8.99
11.95
4.09
1.91
0.19
2.63
0
0
0
0.27

24.89
29.70
13.45
10.92
13.81
1.22
2.85
0
1.13
0
0.73
1.31
0

26.30
28.29
14.31
10.08
12.93
3.31
2.36
0.78
1.42
0
0
0
0.22

23.38
32.59
13.73
10.83
13.10
0.67
2.39
0.61
2.35
0.35
0
0
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

2.47584329
Croat_East

2.61291025
Croat

3.00208261
Hungarian_Alföld

3.77947086
Croat_North

3.94134495
Hungarian

4.12377254
Croat_West

4.26321475
Croat_South

4.54792260
Moldova_North

4.58383028
Bosniak

4.63922407
Hungarian_Northern

4.76031512
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

4.98949897
Csángó-Ceangău

5.07949801
Ukrainian_Carpathian

5.36649793
Slovenian

5.69352264
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

5.77653876
Hungarian_Transylvania

6.00962561
Székely

6.14163659
Serb_north

6.19217248
Romania_Moldavia_North

6.51847375
Slovak

6.85535557
Moldova_Centre

7.07654577
Moldova_average

7.59597262
Serb

7.60458414
Serb_central

7.61631801
Ukrainian_Galicia

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

4.54792260
Moldova_Nord

4.98949897
Romania_Moldova_Csango

5.07949801
Ukrainian_Carpathian

5.28520577
Romania_Ukrainian

5.69352264
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

5.77653876
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

6.19217248
Romania_Moldova_Nord

6.33108843
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

6.85535557
Moldova_Centru

7.07654577
Moldova_average

8.31149204
Romania_Maramures

10.17466461
Romania_Moldova_Sud

10.20343080
Romania_Crisana

11.04675971
Romania_Transilvania

11.55736562
Romania_average

12.36118117
Romania_Banat

12.68853813
Romania_Oltenia

13.26090872
Moldova_Sud

13.52160493
Romania_Dobrogea

14.02887023
Romania_Muntenia

14.94234252
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

15.49359222
Bulgarian

17.92897376
Moldova_Gagauzia

19.75299724
Aromanian

28.73936499
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 1.5547% / 1.55472302 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.2 Ukrainian_Carpathian
42.5 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
9.9 Moldova_Nord
3.4 Romania_Ukrainian

-Ukrainian_Carpathian, Hungarian
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.9628% / 2.96284908 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.1 Romania_Ukrainian
24.0 Romania_Crisana
17.9 Moldova_Nord

-Romania_Ukrainian
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 4.4906% / 4.49056443 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.6 Moldova_Nord
14.4 Romania_Moldova_Nord

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

3.17841155
Moldova_Transnistria

3.63616556
Moldova_Rezina

3.83361448
Moldova_Falesti

4.01718807
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

4.27796681
Moldova_Briceni

4.31898136
Moldova_Ocnita

4.31986111
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

4.87973360
Moldova_Balti

4.98949897
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.19162788
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

5.28520577
Romania_Ukrainian

5.38210925
Moldova_Telenesti

5.69267073
Moldova_Singerei

6.01247869
Moldova_Straseni

6.09040229
Moldova_Orhei

6.27408161
Moldova_Edinet

6.28448089
Moldova_Chisinau

6.37040815
Moldova_Ialoveni

6.55183180
Moldova_Soldanesti

6.77969026
Moldova_Calarasi

7.44305045
Moldova_Nisporeni

7.59220653
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

7.65572988
Moldova_AneniiNoi

7.66563109
Moldova_Donduseni

7.87563331
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-05-2021, 07:49 PM

From Suceava

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Suceava_in_Romania.svg/250px-Suceava_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.06
29.24
16.15
7.53
14.74
1.85
1.73
1.27
0
0.37
0.61
0.46
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Suceava

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.74
31.61
13.10
9.18
12.47
0.66
0.78
0
0.86
0.19
0.79
1.61
0

26.88
29.15
13.73
8.13
14.66
2.27
2.06
0
2.15
0.88
0.10
0
0

26.90
27.46
17.28
9.68
14.68
0
0
0
2.21
1.16
0.35
0
0.29

30.06
26.76
16.04
8.87
14.56
1.54
0
1.00
0.58
0
0.60
0
0

25.53
34.27
13.61
7.30
10.70
2.19
1.74
0
2.96
1.22
0.47
0
0

23.46
34.89
15.09
7.43
11.82
3.66
0
0
0.39
2.00
0.65
0.60
0

24.18
33.34
12.99
8.44
13.91
1.23
1.31
1.19
1.84
0.89
0.67
0
0

24.99
32.68
13.35
7.67
16.04
1.42
0.95
0
0.78
1.26
0.87
0
0

29.03
34.47
13.15
6.10
12.78
1.79
0.78
1.02
0.87
0
0
0
0

21.99
33.52
14.77
11.31
11.99
2.49
0.5
1.04
2.23
0
0.16
0
0

23.64
28.74
16.52
6.63
20.14
1.10
0
1.05
0.10
0.66
1.42
0
0

23.25
30.39
14.82
11.44
15.45
0
0.23
0.28
2.95
0
0
1.16
0

24.37
39.23
10.88
6.70
13.46
1.45
0
0
2.62
0.51
0.79
0
0

24.60
32.75
14.70
8.38
10.93
2.70
2.02
0
1.75
1.72
0.25
0.20
0

24.50
37.74
11.01
7.68
12.62
2.75
0.39
0.96
1.12
0
0.26
0
0.98

29.07
22.81
19.18
5.32
16.58
0.75
3.66
1.13
1.37
0
0.13
0
0

25.45
31.50
13.01
8.99
11.95
4.09
1.91
0.19
2.63
0
0
0
0.27

24.89
29.70
13.45
10.92
13.81
1.22
2.85
0
1.13
0
0.73
1.31
0

26.30
28.29
14.31
10.08
12.93
3.31
2.36
0.78
1.42
0
0
0
0.22

23.38
32.59
13.73
10.83
13.10
0.67
2.39
0.61
2.35
0.35
0
0
0

27.06
33.56
13.88
7.63
10.95
2.67
0.92
0
1.53
0.59
0.6
0.6
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

2.67430365
Serb_central

2.90965634
Serb_north

3.02666483
Romania_Maramures

3.05443939
Serb

3.42864405
Romania_Moldavia_North

3.46690063
Croat_South

4.00619520
Székely

4.13580706
Croat_West

4.13967390
Bosniak

4.39696486
Moldova_Centre

4.46138992
Romania_Crisana

4.58084053
Moldova_average

4.61694704
Hungarian_Transylvania

4.78844442
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.18334834
Csángó-Ceangău

5.49822699
Romania_Transylvania

5.59386271
Croat

5.84025684
Serb_south

6.13916118
Romania_average

6.31845709
Montenegrin

6.72282679
Croat_East

6.92629049
Hungarian_Alföld

6.96951935
Romania_Banat

7.00127131
Romania_Oltenia

7.11664247
Moldova_North

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

3.02666483
Romania_Maramures

3.42864405
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.36823924
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

4.39696486
Moldova_Centru

4.46138992
Romania_Crisana

4.58084053
Moldova_average

4.61694704
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

4.78844442
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.18334834
Romania_Moldova_Csango

5.49822699
Romania_Transilvania

6.13916118
Romania_average

6.96951935
Romania_Banat

7.00127131
Romania_Oltenia

7.11664247
Moldova_Nord

8.00399275
Moldova_Sud

8.10394965
Romania_Dobrogea

8.64466309
Romania_Muntenia

10.01223252
Bulgarian

10.09462233
Romania_Ukrainian

10.53009971
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

10.77504988
Ukrainian_Carpathian

12.75243898
Moldova_Gagauzia

12.97806611
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

13.97565383
Aromanian

28.10407978
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 1.3153% / 1.31532541 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.4 Romania_Maramures
20.7 Romania_Ukrainian
12.6 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
2.3 Romania_Roma

-Ukrainian, Saxon
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.8399% / 2.83992811 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.7 Romania_Maramures
35.3 Romania_Moldova_Nord

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

3.22818835
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

3.45021738
Moldova_Nisporeni

3.89511232
Moldova_Ialoveni

3.96920647
Moldova_Calarasi

3.98356624
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

4.00362336
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

4.03150096
Moldova_Balti

4.06155143
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.28942887
Moldova_Ocnita

4.58703608
Moldova_Straseni

4.89742790
Moldova_Falesti

5.05967390
Moldova_Soldanesti

5.09940193
Moldova_Singerei

5.18292389
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

5.18334834
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.47256795
Moldova_Causeni

5.51752662
Moldova_Chisinau

5.87049402
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

5.89856762
Moldova_Cahul

5.95571994
Moldova_Hincesti

6.26968101
Moldova_Telenesti

6.39091543
Moldova_Cantemir

6.67690797
Moldova_Ungheni

6.78423909
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

7.02435050
Moldova_Cimislia

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-05-2021, 07:56 PM

From Suceava

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Suceava_in_Romania.svg/250px-Suceava_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.43
32.94
12.56
7.18
15.38
1.20
0
0.24
1.52
1.12
1.35
0.09
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Suceava

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.74
31.61
13.10
9.18
12.47
0.66
0.78
0
0.86
0.19
0.79
1.61
0

26.88
29.15
13.73
8.13
14.66
2.27
2.06
0
2.15
0.88
0.10
0
0

26.90
27.46
17.28
9.68
14.68
0
0
0
2.21
1.16
0.35
0
0.29

30.06
26.76
16.04
8.87
14.56
1.54
0
1.00
0.58
0
0.60
0
0

25.53
34.27
13.61
7.30
10.70
2.19
1.74
0
2.96
1.22
0.47
0
0

23.46
34.89
15.09
7.43
11.82
3.66
0
0
0.39
2.00
0.65
0.60
0

24.18
33.34
12.99
8.44
13.91
1.23
1.31
1.19
1.84
0.89
0.67
0
0

24.99
32.68
13.35
7.67
16.04
1.42
0.95
0
0.78
1.26
0.87
0
0

29.03
34.47
13.15
6.10
12.78
1.79
0.78
1.02
0.87
0
0
0
0

21.99
33.52
14.77
11.31
11.99
2.49
0.5
1.04
2.23
0
0.16
0
0

23.64
28.74
16.52
6.63
20.14
1.10
0
1.05
0.10
0.66
1.42
0
0

23.25
30.39
14.82
11.44
15.45
0
0.23
0.28
2.95
0
0
1.16
0

24.37
39.23
10.88
6.70
13.46
1.45
0
0
2.62
0.51
0.79
0
0

24.60
32.75
14.70
8.38
10.93
2.70
2.02
0
1.75
1.72
0.25
0.20
0

24.50
37.74
11.01
7.68
12.62
2.75
0.39
0.96
1.12
0
0.26
0
0.98

29.07
22.81
19.18
5.32
16.58
0.75
3.66
1.13
1.37
0
0.13
0
0

25.45
31.50
13.01
8.99
11.95
4.09
1.91
0.19
2.63
0
0
0
0.27

24.89
29.70
13.45
10.92
13.81
1.22
2.85
0
1.13
0
0.73
1.31
0

26.30
28.29
14.31
10.08
12.93
3.31
2.36
0.78
1.42
0
0
0
0.22

23.38
32.59
13.73
10.83
13.10
0.67
2.39
0.61
2.35
0.35
0
0
0

27.06
33.56
13.88
7.63
10.95
2.67
0.92
0
1.53
0.59
0.6
0.6
0

26.06
29.24
16.15
7.53
14.74
1.85
1.73
1.27
0
0.37
0.61
0.46
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

4.19425798
Croat_East

4.40970521
Bosniak

4.44713391
Croat_South

4.59174259
Croat_West

4.76914038
Croat

4.98275024
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.42736584
Serb_north

5.68212988
Moldova_North

5.85196548
Moldova_Centre

6.08305022
Hungarian_Alföld

6.16737383
Moldova_average

6.19682177
Székely

6.32201708
Serb_central

6.51544319
Serb

6.63413898
Hungarian_Transylvania

6.76029585
Hungarian

6.83586864
Csángó-Ceangău

7.00145699
Croat_North

7.18453200
Romania_Maramures

7.29598520
Hungarian_Northern

7.46230527
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

7.72340598
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

7.80549166
Ukrainian_Carpathian

8.28827485
Slovenian

8.61915309
Romania_Moldavia_South

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

4.98275024
Romania_Moldova_Nord

5.68212988
Moldova_Nord

5.85196548
Moldova_Centru

6.16737383
Moldova_average

6.63413898
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

6.64921864
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

6.83586864
Romania_Moldova_Csango

7.10214052
Romania_Ukrainian

7.18453200
Romania_Maramures

7.46230527
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

7.80549166
Ukrainian_Carpathian

8.61915309
Romania_Moldova_Sud

8.90872606
Romania_Crisana

9.51306996
Romania_Transilvania

9.89160755
Romania_average

10.73725291
Romania_Banat

11.04127710
Romania_Oltenia

11.56924803
Moldova_Sud

11.68929425
Romania_Dobrogea

12.10311530
Romania_Muntenia

13.31439071
Bulgarian

15.74517704
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

16.00570211
Moldova_Gagauzia

17.50745270
Aromanian

28.76075277
Crimean_Tatar

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Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.9494% / 2.94936605 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.8 Romania_Ukrainian
12.9 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
11.5 Romania_Jewish
5.8 Romania_Moldova_Nord

-Ukrainian, Szekely, Jewish
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 4.6678% / 4.66778213 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.0 Romania_Moldova_Nord
35.0 Moldova_Nord

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

3.39617432
Moldova_Falesti

3.51360214
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

3.64599781
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

3.91195603
Moldova_Balti

4.52881883
Moldova_Nisporeni

4.93701327
Moldova_Rezina

5.17850364
Moldova_Soldanesti

5.33712469
Moldova_Singerei

5.41671487
Moldova_Briceni

5.76190073
Moldova_Chisinau

5.84000000
Moldova_Ocnita

6.03923836
Moldova_Floresti

6.34551022
Moldova_Ialoveni

6.58548404
Moldova_Calarasi

6.58832300
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

6.59497536
Moldova_Telenesti

6.69460977
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.83586864
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

6.86004373
Moldova_Orhei

7.05376495
Moldova_AneniiNoi

7.09824626
Moldova_Straseni

7.10214052
Romania_Ukrainian

7.20378373
Moldova_Donduseni

7.23926101
Moldova_Transnistria

7.29780789
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-05-2021, 08:05 PM

From Suceava

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Suceava_in_Romania.svg/250px-Suceava_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

24.25
30.41
14.82
9.94
16.08
1.64
0
0.47
0.99
0.65
0.73
0
0

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Compared to others from Suceava

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.74
31.61
13.10
9.18
12.47
0.66
0.78
0
0.86
0.19
0.79
1.61
0

26.88
29.15
13.73
8.13
14.66
2.27
2.06
0
2.15
0.88
0.10
0
0

26.90
27.46
17.28
9.68
14.68
0
0
0
2.21
1.16
0.35
0
0.29

30.06
26.76
16.04
8.87
14.56
1.54
0
1.00
0.58
0
0.60
0
0

25.53
34.27
13.61
7.30
10.70
2.19
1.74
0
2.96
1.22
0.47
0
0

23.46
34.89
15.09
7.43
11.82
3.66
0
0
0.39
2.00
0.65
0.60
0

24.18
33.34
12.99
8.44
13.91
1.23
1.31
1.19
1.84
0.89
0.67
0
0

24.99
32.68
13.35
7.67
16.04
1.42
0.95
0
0.78
1.26
0.87
0
0

29.03
34.47
13.15
6.10
12.78
1.79
0.78
1.02
0.87
0
0
0
0

21.99
33.52
14.77
11.31
11.99
2.49
0.5
1.04
2.23
0
0.16
0
0

23.64
28.74
16.52
6.63
20.14
1.10
0
1.05
0.10
0.66
1.42
0
0

23.25
30.39
14.82
11.44
15.45
0
0.23
0.28
2.95
0
0
1.16
0

24.37
39.23
10.88
6.70
13.46
1.45
0
0
2.62
0.51
0.79
0
0

24.60
32.75
14.70
8.38
10.93
2.70
2.02
0
1.75
1.72
0.25
0.20
0

24.50
37.74
11.01
7.68
12.62
2.75
0.39
0.96
1.12
0
0.26
0
0.98

29.07
22.81
19.18
5.32
16.58
0.75
3.66
1.13
1.37
0
0.13
0
0

25.45
31.50
13.01
8.99
11.95
4.09
1.91
0.19
2.63
0
0
0
0.27

24.89
29.70
13.45
10.92
13.81
1.22
2.85
0
1.13
0
0.73
1.31
0

26.30
28.29
14.31
10.08
12.93
3.31
2.36
0.78
1.42
0
0
0
0.22

23.38
32.59
13.73
10.83
13.10
0.67
2.39
0.61
2.35
0.35
0
0
0

27.06
33.56
13.88
7.63
10.95
2.67
0.92
0
1.53
0.59
0.6
0.6
0

26.06
29.24
16.15
7.53
14.74
1.85
1.73
1.27
0
0.37
0.61
0.46
0

26.43
32.94
12.56
7.18
15.38
1.20
0
0.24
1.52
1.12
1.35
0.09
0

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Distance to:
Suceava_ind

1.89443923
Romania_Moldavia_North

2.15800834
Moldova_Centre

2.21345883
Moldova_average

2.71598969
Serb_north

2.83822127
Serb

3.03795984
Serb_central

3.25975459
Romania_Maramures

3.45111576
Bosniak

4.11714707
Croat_South

4.35769434
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.03417322
Serb_south

5.27049334
Romania_Crisana

5.29227739
Romania_Transylvania

5.40218474
Romania_average

5.62137883
Moldova_North

5.83408090
Székely

5.83618026
Croat_West

6.18075238
Romania_Banat

6.27835966
Montenegrin

6.32658676
Bulgaria_Northwestern

6.49497498
Croat_East

6.54617446
Csángó-Ceangău

6.61585217
Romania_Oltenia

6.63447059
Croat

6.65314211
Hungarian_Transylvania

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

1.89443923
Romania_Moldova_Nord

2.15800834
Moldova_Centru

2.21345883
Moldova_average

3.25975459
Romania_Maramures

4.35769434
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.27049334
Romania_Crisana

5.29227739
Romania_Transilvania

5.40218474
Romania_average

5.62137883
Moldova_Nord

6.18075238
Romania_Banat

6.29024842
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

6.54617446
Romania_Moldova_Csango

6.61585217
Romania_Oltenia

6.65314211
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

6.92251399
Moldova_Sud

7.13185109
Romania_Dobrogea

7.53077021
Romania_Muntenia

8.76891669
Bulgarian

10.48665342
Romania_Ukrainian

10.74002328
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

10.78144703
Ukrainian_Carpathian

11.30836858
Moldova_Gagauzia

13.28134782
Aromanian

15.83253296
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

26.83988823
Crimean_Tatar

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Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 1.5182% / 1.51819862 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.3 Romania_Moldova_Nord
19.2 Moldova_Nord
17.5 Bulgarian

-Bulgarian
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 1.6351% / 1.63512863 | ADC: 0.25x RC
71.5 Romania_Moldova_Nord
26.2 Moldova_average
2.3 Romania_Jewish

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Distance to:
Suceava_ind

2.51803495
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

2.66726452
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

2.87664735
Moldova_Nisporeni

2.98472779
Moldova_Ialoveni

2.99090287
Moldova_Balti

3.11871769
Moldova_Soldanesti

3.19540295
Moldova_Chisinau

3.37628494
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

3.48232681
Moldova_Singerei

3.56113746
Moldova_Calarasi

3.69628192
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

4.13871961
Moldova_Ungheni

4.13968598
Moldova_Cimislia

4.26016432
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

4.29929064
Moldova_Falesti

4.32913386
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

4.46461644
Moldova_Straseni

4.76482948
Moldova_Telenesti

4.79281754
Moldova_Causeni

5.25571118
Moldova_Hincesti

5.45548348
Moldova_Orhei

5.51549635
Moldova_Ocnita

6.13449264
Moldova_Cahul

6.34653449
Moldova_Briceni

6.54617446
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

</tbody>

Leto

02-05-2021, 08:07 PM

A certain half Ukrainian guy fits in Suceava as a full native.

Ion Basescul

02-05-2021, 08:13 PM

From Suceava

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Suceava_in_Romania.svg/250px-Suceava_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

30.14
28.85
12.74
8.63
13.41
0.72
0.68
1.31
1.86
0.76
0
0.55
0.34

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Compared to others from Suceava

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

28.74
31.61
13.10
9.18
12.47
0.66
0.78
0
0.86
0.19
0.79
1.61
0

26.88
29.15
13.73
8.13
14.66
2.27
2.06
0
2.15
0.88
0.10
0
0

26.90
27.46
17.28
9.68
14.68
0
0
0
2.21
1.16
0.35
0
0.29

30.06
26.76
16.04
8.87
14.56
1.54
0
1.00
0.58
0
0.60
0
0

25.53
34.27
13.61
7.30
10.70
2.19
1.74
0
2.96
1.22
0.47
0
0

23.46
34.89
15.09
7.43
11.82
3.66
0
0
0.39
2.00
0.65
0.60
0

24.18
33.34
12.99
8.44
13.91
1.23
1.31
1.19
1.84
0.89
0.67
0
0

24.99
32.68
13.35
7.67
16.04
1.42
0.95
0
0.78
1.26
0.87
0
0

29.03
34.47
13.15
6.10
12.78
1.79
0.78
1.02
0.87
0
0
0
0

21.99
33.52
14.77
11.31
11.99
2.49
0.5
1.04
2.23
0
0.16
0
0

23.64
28.74
16.52
6.63
20.14
1.10
0
1.05
0.10
0.66
1.42
0
0

23.25
30.39
14.82
11.44
15.45
0
0.23
0.28
2.95
0
0
1.16
0

24.37
39.23
10.88
6.70
13.46
1.45
0
0
2.62
0.51
0.79
0
0

24.60
32.75
14.70
8.38
10.93
2.70
2.02
0
1.75
1.72
0.25
0.20
0

24.50
37.74
11.01
7.68
12.62
2.75
0.39
0.96
1.12
0
0.26
0
0.98

29.07
22.81
19.18
5.32
16.58
0.75
3.66
1.13
1.37
0
0.13
0
0

25.45
31.50
13.01
8.99
11.95
4.09
1.91
0.19
2.63
0
0
0
0.27

24.89
29.70
13.45
10.92
13.81
1.22
2.85
0
1.13
0
0.73
1.31
0

26.30
28.29
14.31
10.08
12.93
3.31
2.36
0.78
1.42
0
0
0
0.22

23.38
32.59
13.73
10.83
13.10
0.67
2.39
0.61
2.35
0.35
0
0
0

27.06
33.56
13.88
7.63
10.95
2.67
0.92
0
1.53
0.59
0.6
0.6
0

26.06
29.24
16.15
7.53
14.74
1.85
1.73
1.27
0
0.37
0.61
0.46
0

26.43
32.94
12.56
7.18
15.38
1.20
0
0.24
1.52
1.12
1.35
0.09
0

24.25
30.41
14.82
9.94
16.08
1.64
0
0.47
0.99
0.65
0.73
0
0

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Distance to:
Suceava_ind

3.28840387
Hungarian_Transylvania

3.31942766
Székely

4.58526989
Csángó-Ceangău

4.64371618
Croat_West

5.35942161
Hungarian

5.70207857
Hungarian_Alföld

5.73171876
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

5.83644584
Croat

6.09790128
Croat_South

6.57803922
Romania_Moldavia_North

7.00319213
Serb_north

7.07765498
Croat_North

7.10412556
Croat_East

7.21707004
Bosniak

7.28463451
Serb_central

7.54538269
Serb

7.63283041
Slovenian

7.76697496
Romania_Maramures

7.81891297
Hungarian_Northern

7.82780301
Moldova_Centre

7.92922443
Romania_Crisana

8.17999389
Moldova_average

8.63481326
Romania_Moldavia_South

8.89386305
Moldova_North

9.06831296
Romania_Transylvania

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

3.27342543
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

3.28840387
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

4.58526989
Romania_Moldova_Csango

6.57803922
Romania_Moldova_Nord

7.76697496
Romania_Maramures

7.82780301
Moldova_Centru

7.92922443
Romania_Crisana

8.17999389
Moldova_average

8.63481326
Romania_Moldova_Sud

8.89386305
Moldova_Nord

9.06831296
Romania_Transilvania

9.89178952
Romania_average

10.55816272
Romania_Ukrainian

10.61295435
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

10.62068736
Romania_Oltenia

10.78693654
Romania_Banat

10.80079164
Ukrainian_Carpathian

11.23510570
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

11.77567832
Romania_Dobrogea

11.99750391
Moldova_Sud

12.22102287
Romania_Muntenia

13.44561639
Bulgarian

16.06275506
Moldova_Gagauzia

17.14960349
Aromanian

27.79322399
Crimean_Tatar

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Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 3.0692% / 3.06916193 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.1 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
11.5 Romania_Ukrainian
10.4 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
:eek:

-Minorities
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 6.5460% / 6.54604031 | ADC: 0.25x RC
87.3 Romania_Moldova_Nord
12.7 Romania_Crisana

<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind

4.58526989
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.73740359
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

5.93691839
Moldova_Nisporeni

5.99634889
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.12264649
Moldova_Calarasi

6.45828151
Moldova_Balti

6.51369327
Moldova_Falesti

6.55895571
Moldova_Rezina

6.66193666
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

6.67245832
Moldova_Transnistria

7.11151883
Moldova_Donduseni

7.23823183
Moldova_Ocnita

7.23953728
Moldova_Telenesti

7.34395670
Moldova_Ialoveni

7.37318113
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

7.74590860
Moldova_Straseni

8.17459479
Moldova_Orhei

8.23094770
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

8.44045615
Moldova_Chisinau

8.44584513
Moldova_Singerei

8.58972060
Moldova_Soldanesti

8.96972686
Moldova_Causeni

8.99949999
Moldova_Briceni

9.51391087
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

9.81977087
Moldova_Cahul

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-05-2021, 08:14 PM

A certain half Ukrainian guy fits in Suceava as a full native.

Just like the Northern half of Moldova, there are plenty of assimilated people with Ukrainian surnames there, especially in Suceava and Botosani counties. They don't appear out of thin air. There must be places where full colonies assimilated and lost the identity. The genes obviously don't disappear just like that too.
In Suceava there are also other minorities that assimilated, though they are drastically fewer, like Hungarians and Germans. It was one of the more multi-cultural counties in the country in the not so distant past.

Ion Basescul

02-05-2021, 08:29 PM

From Botosani

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Botosani_in_Romania.svg/250px-Botosani_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.97
31.53
13.71
7.66
16.24
3.04
0
2.42
1.84
0
0.18
0
0.41

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Compared to others from Botosani

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.52
33.55
15.30
9.67
13.39
2.08
1.20
0.40
1.78
0
0
0
0

26.31
31.16
12.22
10.56
13.39
1.79
0
0
0.94
0
2.06
0.14
1.45

22.16
30.86
17.51
9.77
15.49
0
0
0.34
1.55
0.82
0.75
0.33
0.41

24.65
26.31
13.74
10.46
18.52
2.72
1.12
0
0.80
1.49
0
0.18
0

23.95
27.47
14.03
11.97
18.04
1.55
1.75
0
0.99
0.24
0
0
0

22.58
31.36
14.37
10.90
16.01
2.56
0
0
1.23
0.53
0.19
0.27
0

24.93
26.54
16.40
12.19
15.34
1.75
0
0.90
1.24
0.20
0.49
0
0

22.62
34.43
14.66
9.52
16.56
0
0
0
1.92
0.29
0
0
0

27.00
28.09
16.24
7.95
14.03
2.98
0.73
1.76
0
0.54
0.70
0
0

26.38
33.40
12.80
4.41
17.06
1.02
0.98
0.63
1.06
0.96
0.90
0
0.41

25.88
30.94
16.18
8.74
13.64
1.20
0
0.51
1.15
0.88
0.89
0
0

18.23
40.00
15.66
8.32
10.78
0
2.34
0.76
1.00
1.93
0.99
0
0

26.15
35.91
12.71
8.05
14.43
0.54
0
0
2.22
0
0
0
0

26.92
30.37
13.79
8.19
17.01
0
0.48
0.11
2.19
0.50
0.38
0
0.05

29.12
29.73
10.96
7.94
18.38
0.82
0
0
1.19
1.09
0.76
0
0

28.53
35.39
12.70
4.80
16.04
0.40
0
0
1.40
0
0.17
0
0.51

26.82
38.01
15.03
4.15
11.34
1.09
1.12
1.00
0
0.23
0.31
0
0.88

25.39
28.61
16.91
9.54
11.68
2.25
1.43
0.52
1.65
1.20
0.41
0
0.41

23.07
33.85
17.50
9.77
10.25
1.18
1.33
0.73
0
1.75
0.14
0.43
0

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Distance to:
Botosani_ind

4.19387649
Moldova_Centre

4.27201358
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.32291568
Moldova_average

4.72451056
Bosniak

5.18193014
Serb_north

5.54485347
Serb_central

5.55673465
Serb

5.56257135
Romania_Maramures

5.76615123
Croat_South

6.03879955
Moldova_North

6.74076405
Romania_Moldavia_South

7.00982881
Serb_south

7.03762034
Croat_East

7.18691867
Croat_West

7.42022237
Székely

7.59851301
Croat

7.64690787
Romania_average

7.72728930
Romania_Transylvania

7.83325603
Romania_Crisana

7.96064068
Csángó-Ceangău

8.02891649
Bulgaria_Northwestern

8.26850047
Hungarian_Transylvania

8.27520997
Romania_Banat

8.66187047
Montenegrin

8.74723956
Moldova_South

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_ind

4.19387649
Moldova_Centru

4.27201358
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.32291568
Moldova_average

5.56257135
Romania_Maramures

6.03879955
Moldova_Nord

6.74076405
Romania_Moldova_Sud

7.64690787
Romania_average

7.72728930
Romania_Transilvania

7.83325603
Romania_Crisana

7.88311682
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

7.96064068
Romania_Moldova_Csango

8.26850047
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

8.27520997
Romania_Banat

8.74723956
Moldova_Sud

8.87033821
Romania_Oltenia

8.95252478
Romania_Dobrogea

9.45549047
Romania_Muntenia

9.49258131
Romania_Ukrainian

9.94519482
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

10.35648589
Ukrainian_Carpathian

10.73763941
Bulgarian

13.06151599
Moldova_Gagauzia

14.82178802
Aromanian

17.62037173
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

26.13235925
Crimean_Tatar

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Target: Botosani_ind
Distance: 2.1906% / 2.19056535 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.6 Romania_Ukrainian
17.8 Romania_Jewish
11.1 Moldova_average
6.5 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

-Ukrainian, Jewish
Target: Botosani_ind
Distance: 4.0342% / 4.03420723 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.6 Romania_Moldova_Nord
30.7 Moldova_Centru
7.2 Moldova_Nord
3.5 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_ind

4.09885350
Moldova_Soldanesti

4.10210921
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

4.16642533
Moldova_Balti

4.33820239
Moldova_Singerei

4.34436417
Moldova_Falesti

4.35901365
Moldova_Chisinau

4.60633260
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

4.63069109
Moldova_Nisporeni

4.91374603
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

5.08425019
Moldova_Ialoveni

5.95657620
Moldova_Cimislia

6.26607533
Moldova_Hincesti

6.31276485
Moldova_Straseni

6.33434290
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.40228865
Moldova_Calarasi

6.48359468
Moldova_Telenesti

6.52200889
Moldova_Ungheni

6.52624701
Moldova_Ocnita

6.53032924
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

6.61719729
Moldova_Briceni

6.73294141
Moldova_Floresti

6.98620784
Moldova_AneniiNoi

7.06555023
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

7.37330319
Moldova_Edinet

7.43263749
Moldova_Orhei

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-05-2021, 08:41 PM

From Botosani

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Botosani_in_Romania.svg/250px-Botosani_in_Romania.svg.png

The people in this and the next post come from the same village. They are not relatives. I think it's interesting to see that they are not that similar to one another, though there are shared signals that could be a trademark for that locality, like that Siberian+Amerindian combo.

1/2

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

30.22
32.48
13.79
8.05
10.76
1.37
0
0
2.89
0.40
0
0
0

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Compared to others from Botosani

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.52
33.55
15.30
9.67
13.39
2.08
1.20
0.40
1.78
0
0
0
0

26.31
31.16
12.22
10.56
13.39
1.79
0
0
0.94
0
2.06
0.14
1.45

22.16
30.86
17.51
9.77
15.49
0
0
0.34
1.55
0.82
0.75
0.33
0.41

24.65
26.31
13.74
10.46
18.52
2.72
1.12
0
0.80
1.49
0
0.18
0

23.95
27.47
14.03
11.97
18.04
1.55
1.75
0
0.99
0.24
0
0
0

22.58
31.36
14.37
10.90
16.01
2.56
0
0
1.23
0.53
0.19
0.27
0

24.93
26.54
16.40
12.19
15.34
1.75
0
0.90
1.24
0.20
0.49
0
0

22.62
34.43
14.66
9.52
16.56
0
0
0
1.92
0.29
0
0
0

27.00
28.09
16.24
7.95
14.03
2.98
0.73
1.76
0
0.54
0.70
0
0

26.38
33.40
12.80
4.41
17.06
1.02
0.98
0.63
1.06
0.96
0.90
0
0.41

25.88
30.94
16.18
8.74
13.64
1.20
0
0.51
1.15
0.88
0.89
0
0

18.23
40.00
15.66
8.32
10.78
0
2.34
0.76
1.00
1.93
0.99
0
0

26.15
35.91
12.71
8.05
14.43
0.54
0
0
2.22
0
0
0
0

26.92
30.37
13.79
8.19
17.01
0
0.48
0.11
2.19
0.50
0.38
0
0.05

29.12
29.73
10.96
7.94
18.38
0.82
0
0
1.19
1.09
0.76
0
0

28.53
35.39
12.70
4.80
16.04
0.40
0
0
1.40
0
0.17
0
0.51

26.82
38.01
15.03
4.15
11.34
1.09
1.12
1.00
0
0.23
0.31
0
0.88

25.39
28.61
16.91
9.54
11.68
2.25
1.43
0.52
1.65
1.20
0.41
0
0.41

23.07
33.85
17.50
9.77
10.25
1.18
1.33
0.73
0
1.75
0.14
0.43
0

22.97
31.53
13.71
7.66
16.24
3.04
0
2.42
1.84
0
0.18
0
0.41

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Distance to:
Botosani_ind

2.31294185
Hungarian

2.49070271
Hungarian_Alföld

2.70981549
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

3.40741838
Croat_North

3.74195136
Croat

4.12177146
Slovenian

4.16306378
Hungarian_Northern

4.41914019
Croat_West

4.65007527
Csángó-Ceangău

4.68957354
Croat_East

4.85496653
Hungarian_Transylvania

5.40733761
Székely

5.82830164
Croat_South

6.39362182
Slovak

6.93883275
Bosniak

7.17622463
Ukrainian_Carpathian

7.27226925
Moldova_North

7.68787357
Serb_north

7.73779684
Czech

7.76584187
Romania_Moldavia_North

7.92350301
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

8.45974586
Austrian

8.76918468
Serb_central

8.83623223
Moldova_Centre

8.87334773
Serb

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_ind

4.65007527
Romania_Moldova_Csango

4.85496653
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

5.47724207
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

7.17622463
Ukrainian_Carpathian

7.27226925
Moldova_Nord

7.55517703
Romania_Ukrainian

7.76584187
Romania_Moldova_Nord

7.92350301
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

8.83623223
Moldova_Centru

9.05088946
Moldova_average

9.61034859
Romania_Maramures

10.60940620
Romania_Crisana

11.11234899
Romania_Moldova_Sud

11.75174881
Romania_Transilvania

12.48574788
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

12.49963999
Romania_average

13.34584954
Romania_Banat

13.44886241
Romania_Oltenia

14.44929756
Moldova_Sud

14.52000344
Romania_Dobrogea

15.03567424
Romania_Muntenia

16.40201512
Bulgarian

18.96582189
Moldova_Gagauzia

20.45190456
Aromanian

29.26300736
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Botosani_ind
Distance: 2.4119% / 2.41188196 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.5 Ukrainian_Carpathian
23.5 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
15.5 Romania_Moldova_Csango
10.5 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

-Minorities
Target: Botosani_ind
Distance: 7.0593% / 7.05928796 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.9 Moldova_Nord
35.1 Romania_Moldova_Nord

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_ind

3.71211530
Moldova_Transnistria

3.85408874
Moldova_Rezina

4.65007527
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.81612414
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

6.13894942
Moldova_Falesti

6.25403070
Moldova_Ocnita

6.88631251
Moldova_Balti

6.90641731
Moldova_Donduseni

6.95797384
Moldova_Telenesti

6.98096698
Moldova_Briceni

7.06002125
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

7.17931752
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

7.55517703
Romania_Ukrainian

7.75719666
Moldova_Orhei

7.76479877
Moldova_Calarasi

7.87135312
Moldova_Straseni

8.18228574
Moldova_Singerei

8.19882309
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

8.28630195
Moldova_Ialoveni

8.46913809
Moldova_Nisporeni

8.67279655
Moldova_Chisinau

8.77913435
Moldova_Soldanesti

8.92179354
Moldova_Edinet

9.13662410
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

10.39169380
Moldova_Ukrainian

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-05-2021, 08:46 PM

From Botosani

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Botosani_in_Romania.svg/250px-Botosani_in_Romania.svg.png

The people in this and the next post come from the same village. They are not relatives. I think it's interesting to see that they are not that similar to one another, though there are shared signals that could be a trademark for that locality, like that Siberian+Amerindian combo.

1/2

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

30.22
32.48
13.79
8.05
10.76
1.37
0
0
2.89
0.40
0
0
0

</tbody>
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2/2

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.12
29.05
15.67
8.85
14.21
1.29
0
0
3.91
0.20
0.47
0.24
0

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Distance to:
Botosani_ind

3.30178739
Székely

3.71846743
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.05799211
Serb_north

4.06025861
Csángó-Ceangău

4.06033250
Serb_central

4.07916658
Serb

4.11217704
Hungarian_Transylvania

4.40382788
Romania_Maramures

4.48711489
Croat_South

4.50846981
Moldova_Centre

4.56446054
Moldova_average

5.08449604
Bosniak

5.20799386
Romania_Crisana

5.26693459
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.29381715
Croat_West

5.88475148
Romania_Transylvania

6.20545728
Croat

6.47177719
Romania_average

6.53766013
Serb_south

6.67561233
Moldova_North

6.72317633
Montenegrin

6.78632448
Croat_East

7.11924856
Hungarian_Alföld

7.21901655
Romania_Banat

7.51140466
Romania_Oltenia

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_ind

3.59277248
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

3.71846743
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.06025861
Romania_Moldova_Csango

4.11217704
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

4.40382788
Romania_Maramures

4.50846981
Moldova_Centru

4.56446054
Moldova_average

5.20799386
Romania_Crisana

5.26693459
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.88475148
Romania_Transilvania

6.47177719
Romania_average

6.67561233
Moldova_Nord

7.21901655
Romania_Banat

7.51140466
Romania_Oltenia

8.28531834
Moldova_Sud

8.31829309
Romania_Dobrogea

8.86411868
Romania_Muntenia

10.31105232
Bulgarian

10.83913281
Romania_Ukrainian

10.89229544
Ukrainian_Carpathian

10.96418716
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.72359619
Moldova_Gagauzia

13.43203633
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

14.32054817
Aromanian

25.93500530
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Botosani_ind
Distance: 2.2203% / 2.22028550 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.1 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
28.6 Moldova_average
11.0 Romania_Moldova_Sud
3.3 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

-Hungarians
Target: Botosani_ind
Distance: 2.5797% / 2.57972853 | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.1 Romania_Crisana
24.8 Ukrainian_Carpathian
7.1 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Botosani_ind

2.77445490
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

3.64222459
Moldova_Calarasi

3.99101491
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

4.06025861
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

4.16701332
Moldova_Balti

4.20411703
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

4.28498541
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

4.39600955
Moldova_Ialoveni

4.48342503
Moldova_Straseni

4.96449393
Moldova_Nisporeni

5.05132656
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

5.06190676
Moldova_Telenesti

5.21236031
Moldova_Singerei

5.32562672
Moldova_Chisinau

5.46104386
Moldova_Ocnita

5.52273483
Moldova_Falesti

5.63495342
Moldova_Cimislia

5.69507682
Moldova_Soldanesti

5.87258887
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

6.16086845
Moldova_Cahul

6.34764523
Moldova_Orhei

6.50513643
Moldova_Causeni

6.69022421
Moldova_Ungheni

6.96709409
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

7.26275430
Moldova_Cantemir

</tbody>

Aspirin

02-05-2021, 08:53 PM

Siberian: 3.91

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Ion Basescul

02-05-2021, 09:01 PM

https://groovetherapy101.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Shock-Wow-GIF-source.gif

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/7x9tn2v6-dFq2Sw-rXQVT1ln-SMF7xbRzdyftGMprcFhI6Li6-mW3jKEwKkiCEGmnvfN25pmJMqoqXd0clTqm3GBcw9xsMLfbw1I duElbNQy5jtmuDRkeu9l0zU8yox1kt4eb8J5Ohx2eHf1yf1FhD w_xCXj2uZpQZ2TtShJVGTAlfd5RXAU_A5ZrkWFEyLEqw

although in his case it might be from booze

Leto

02-05-2021, 09:10 PM

Have you seen those Botosani people's photos? I wonder what they look like.

Ion Basescul

02-05-2021, 09:11 PM

Have you seen those Botosani people's photos? I wonder what they look like.

Yes, like regular people from those places.

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 03:48 PM

2Way admix for users from Moldova

<tbody>
Distance to:
superjelly40_23andme

4.46771100
81.60% Moldova_Straseni + 18.40% Moldova_Transnistria

4.63767687
5.20% Moldova_Ocnita + 94.80% Moldova_Straseni

4.76275391
43.40% Moldova_Cahul + 56.60% Moldova_Transnistria

5.07759698
73.40% Moldova_Transnistria + 26.60% Moldova_Bulgarian

5.14262708
30.60% Moldova_StefanVoda + 69.40% Moldova_Transnistria

5.24433738
42.00% Moldova_Hincesti + 58.00% Moldova_Transnistria

5.25398036
65.80% Moldova_Calarasi + 34.20% Moldova_Transnistria

5.26377153
36.00% Moldova_Cantemir + 64.00% Moldova_Transnistria

5.27943872
47.20% Moldova_Ocnita + 52.80% Moldova_Calarasi

5.32757792
63.80% Moldova_Ialoveni + 36.20% Moldova_Transnistria

5.34023253
74.80% Moldova_Transnistria + 25.20% Moldova_Gagauzia

5.38812039
49.20% Moldova_Ocnita + 50.80% Moldova_Telenesti

5.54909788
75.40% Moldova_Telenesti + 24.60% Moldova_Cahul

5.54978336
50.80% Moldova_Ocnita + 49.20% Moldova_Ialoveni

5.55736479
86.40% Moldova_Ocnita + 13.60% Moldova_Bulgarian

5.58432862
80.80% Moldova_Telenesti + 19.20% Moldova_Cantemir

5.59223211
45.80% Moldova_Telenesti + 54.20% Moldova_Calarasi

5.61756621
76.00% Moldova_Ocnita + 24.00% Moldova_Cahul

5.64026960
16.80% Moldova_Glodeni + 83.20% Moldova_Calarasi

5.67543539
18.60% Moldova_Edinet + 81.40% Moldova_Calarasi

5.68049448
36.40% Moldova_Ungheni + 63.60% Moldova_Transnistria

5.70227674
72.80% Moldova_Telenesti + 27.20% Moldova_Transnistria

5.73034113
72.20% Moldova_Ocnita + 27.80% Moldova_Transnistria

5.74549730
53.60% Moldova_Telenesti + 46.40% Moldova_Ialoveni

5.76748622
93.80% Moldova_Calarasi + 6.20% Moldova_Ukrainian

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Zmey_Gorynych_?

2.48235820
47.80% Moldova_StefanVoda + 52.20% Moldova_Ukrainian

2.56578327
42.80% Moldova_Gagauzia + 57.20% Moldova_Ukrainian

2.58618414
26.40% Moldova_Floresti + 73.60% Moldova_Singerei

2.71838337
61.00% Moldova_Ungheni + 39.00% Moldova_Ukrainian

2.72545828
59.00% Moldova_Glodeni + 41.00% Moldova_Nisporeni

2.74026524
50.80% Moldova_Floresti + 49.20% Moldova_Hincesti

2.75552802
26.00% Moldova_Floresti + 74.00% Moldova_Chisinau

2.76525916
42.80% Moldova_Glodeni + 57.20% Moldova_Falesti

2.78768224
35.60% Moldova_Glodeni + 64.40% Moldova_Soldanesti

2.86206992
65.60% Moldova_Edinet + 34.40% Moldova_Floresti

2.87715568
66.40% Moldova_Briceni + 33.60% Moldova_Hincesti

2.87980560
64.40% Moldova_Hincesti + 35.60% Moldova_Ukrainian

2.88571304
43.40% Moldova_Edinet + 56.60% Moldova_Soldanesti

2.93722866
26.80% Moldova_Glodeni + 73.20% Moldova_Singerei

2.93905146
85.80% Moldova_Chisinau + 14.20% Moldova_Ukrainian

2.95273886
92.20% Moldova_Briceni + 7.80% Moldova_Jewish

2.95359103
80.00% Moldova_Briceni + 20.00% Moldova_StefanVoda

2.96072968
37.00% Moldova_Briceni + 63.00% Moldova_Chisinau

2.96227878
45.80% Moldova_Floresti + 54.20% Moldova_Straseni

2.99454786
83.20% Moldova_Briceni + 16.80% Moldova_Gagauzia

2.99862264
57.20% Moldova_Glodeni + 42.80% Moldova_Floresti

3.00311095
28.00% Moldova_Glodeni + 72.00% Moldova_Chisinau

3.01324940
68.60% Moldova_Edinet + 31.40% Moldova_Nisporeni

3.02523339
70.20% Moldova_Briceni + 29.80% Moldova_Ungheni

3.02733052
32.40% Moldova_Edinet + 67.60% Moldova_Singerei

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_dad_MyHeritage

2.54352283
31.00% Moldova_Briceni + 69.00% Moldova_Telenesti

2.63437669
21.80% Moldova_Glodeni + 78.20% Moldova_Telenesti

2.69985165
86.60% Moldova_Telenesti + 13.40% Moldova_AneniiNoi

2.70277799
46.00% Moldova_Glodeni + 54.00% Moldova_Calarasi

2.72786653
23.60% Moldova_Soldanesti + 76.40% Moldova_Telenesti

2.74426903
25.00% Moldova_Edinet + 75.00% Moldova_Telenesti

2.76258975
91.20% Moldova_Telenesti + 8.80% Moldova_Ukrainian

2.78915581
69.00% Moldova_Telenesti + 31.00% Moldova_Chisinau

2.79150595
54.80% Moldova_Edinet + 45.20% Moldova_Calarasi

2.81117636
24.20% Moldova_Singerei + 75.80% Moldova_Telenesti

2.83611232
56.00% Moldova_Briceni + 44.00% Moldova_Calarasi

2.86869029
20.00% Moldova_Balti + 80.00% Moldova_Telenesti

2.87833534
7.80% Moldova_Floresti + 92.20% Moldova_Telenesti

2.89360231
8.60% Moldova_Rezina + 91.40% Moldova_Telenesti

2.91464035
10.60% Moldova_Ocnita + 89.40% Moldova_Telenesti

2.92541382
92.20% Moldova_Telenesti + 7.80% Moldova_Cimislia

2.92904298
96.20% Moldova_Telenesti + 3.80% Moldova_Leova

2.92924527
10.40% Moldova_Falesti + 89.60% Moldova_Telenesti

2.93428176
73.60% Moldova_Chisinau + 26.40% Moldova_Transnistria

2.94239214
94.20% Moldova_Telenesti + 5.80% Moldova_Transnistria

2.95789101
97.20% Moldova_Telenesti + 2.80% Moldova_Nisporeni

2.95977350
95.40% Moldova_Telenesti + 4.60% Moldova_Straseni

2.96007122
98.00% Moldova_Telenesti + 2.00% Moldova_Ungheni

2.96115298
98.80% Moldova_Telenesti + 1.20% Moldova_Causeni

2.96253056
99.20% Moldova_Telenesti + 0.80% Moldova_Hincesti

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_mom_MyHeritage

3.65944418
68.00% Moldova_Glodeni + 32.00% Moldova_AneniiNoi

3.90752827
76.60% Moldova_Glodeni + 23.40% Moldova_Floresti

4.21874927
75.60% Moldova_Glodeni + 24.40% Moldova_Soldanesti

4.22858246
88.20% Moldova_Glodeni + 11.80% Moldova_Leova

4.32736422
87.80% Moldova_Glodeni + 12.20% Moldova_Ukrainian

4.37268801
22.40% Moldova_Briceni + 77.60% Moldova_Glodeni

4.43869847
84.60% Moldova_Glodeni + 15.40% Moldova_Singerei

4.44903294
89.00% Moldova_Glodeni + 11.00% Moldova_Falesti

4.46290500
93.00% Moldova_Glodeni + 7.00% Moldova_Nisporeni

4.48445670
93.20% Moldova_Glodeni + 6.80% Moldova_Hincesti

4.50184089
92.20% Moldova_Glodeni + 7.80% Moldova_Chisinau

4.50207319
94.00% Moldova_Glodeni + 6.00% Moldova_Balti

4.50688642
96.20% Moldova_Glodeni + 3.80% Moldova_Rezina

4.50835829
97.00% Moldova_Glodeni + 3.00% Moldova_Causeni

4.51130261
2.20% Moldova_Donduseni + 97.80% Moldova_Glodeni

4.51239430
99.20% Moldova_Glodeni + 0.80% Moldova_Jewish

4.51504974
97.00% Moldova_Glodeni + 3.00% Moldova_Ungheni

4.51902511
2.80% Moldova_Ocnita + 97.20% Moldova_Glodeni

4.52154257
98.00% Moldova_Glodeni + 2.00% Moldova_Cimislia

4.52428191
99.80% Moldova_Glodeni + 0.20% Moldova_Gagauzia

4.69766906
64.20% Moldova_Edinet + 35.80% Moldova_AneniiNoi

5.06795359
77.80% Moldova_Edinet + 22.20% Moldova_Floresti

5.26358503
75.80% Moldova_Edinet + 24.20% Moldova_Soldanesti

5.28559265
91.00% Moldova_Edinet + 9.00% Moldova_Leova

5.30551021
89.20% Moldova_Edinet + 10.80% Moldova_Ukrainian

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_brother_MyHeritage

1.83105709
68.60% Moldova_Glodeni + 31.40% Moldova_Ungheni

1.86467001
83.60% Moldova_Glodeni + 16.40% Moldova_Bulgarian

1.97538169
76.40% Moldova_Glodeni + 23.60% Moldova_Causeni

2.05313039
82.60% Moldova_Glodeni + 17.40% Moldova_Gagauzia

2.08318950
76.80% Moldova_Glodeni + 23.20% Moldova_Cahul

2.11303194
80.00% Moldova_Glodeni + 20.00% Moldova_StefanVoda

2.12464000
62.00% Moldova_Glodeni + 38.00% Moldova_Ialoveni

2.12554393
66.80% Moldova_Glodeni + 33.20% Moldova_Cimislia

2.21676901
80.60% Moldova_Glodeni + 19.40% Moldova_Cantemir

2.21734370
68.80% Moldova_Glodeni + 31.20% Moldova_Hincesti

2.22848174
80.20% Moldova_Glodeni + 19.80% Moldova_Leova

2.22938062
69.40% Moldova_Glodeni + 30.60% Moldova_Calarasi

2.24612046
52.80% Moldova_Glodeni + 47.20% Moldova_Chisinau

2.31079746
61.20% Moldova_Glodeni + 38.80% Moldova_Straseni

2.33275047
92.80% Moldova_Glodeni + 7.20% Moldova_Jewish

2.39470777
75.60% Moldova_Glodeni + 24.40% Moldova_Nisporeni

2.46733065
62.40% Moldova_Glodeni + 37.60% Moldova_Soldanesti

2.54305094
57.40% Moldova_Glodeni + 42.60% Moldova_Singerei

2.55243539
56.20% Moldova_Glodeni + 43.80% Moldova_Orhei

2.62118182
68.60% Moldova_Glodeni + 31.40% Moldova_Balti

2.80072842
65.60% Moldova_Glodeni + 34.40% Moldova_Telenesti

2.96500304
24.80% Moldova_Ocnita + 75.20% Moldova_Glodeni

2.96713538
70.40% Moldova_Edinet + 29.60% Moldova_Ungheni

2.98641378
68.80% Moldova_Edinet + 31.20% Moldova_Hincesti

2.98971517
84.00% Moldova_Edinet + 16.00% Moldova_Gagauzia

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_MyHeritage

1.78216448
35.00% Moldova_Glodeni + 65.00% Moldova_Calarasi

1.83752689
79.20% Moldova_Telenesti + 20.80% Moldova_Hincesti

1.87448782
78.20% Moldova_Telenesti + 21.80% Moldova_Ungheni

1.92176730
83.00% Moldova_Telenesti + 17.00% Moldova_Cahul

1.92568899
76.00% Moldova_Telenesti + 24.00% Moldova_Cimislia

1.92671116
86.20% Moldova_Telenesti + 13.80% Moldova_Cantemir

1.95189224
41.00% Moldova_Edinet + 59.00% Moldova_Calarasi

1.97239371
90.20% Moldova_Telenesti + 9.80% Moldova_Gagauzia

1.97537367
88.00% Moldova_Telenesti + 12.00% Moldova_StefanVoda

1.97943908
55.60% Moldova_Telenesti + 44.40% Moldova_Straseni

2.01913249
59.00% Moldova_Telenesti + 41.00% Moldova_Ialoveni

2.07238865
31.60% Moldova_Singerei + 68.40% Moldova_Telenesti

2.10923190
92.20% Moldova_Telenesti + 7.80% Moldova_Bulgarian

2.13884722
66.00% Moldova_Telenesti + 34.00% Moldova_Chisinau

2.14770994
28.80% Moldova_Edinet + 71.20% Moldova_Ialoveni

2.15267055
23.20% Moldova_Glodeni + 76.80% Moldova_Ialoveni

2.15335376
21.80% Moldova_Soldanesti + 78.20% Moldova_Telenesti

2.17192689
88.00% Moldova_Telenesti + 12.00% Moldova_Causeni

2.17616601
97.00% Moldova_Telenesti + 3.00% Moldova_Jewish

2.22678922
92.20% Moldova_Telenesti + 7.80% Moldova_Leova

2.24760058
76.60% Moldova_Telenesti + 23.40% Moldova_Calarasi

2.25000231
24.00% Moldova_Edinet + 76.00% Moldova_Straseni

2.25199124
31.80% Moldova_Orhei + 68.20% Moldova_Straseni

2.26075114
35.60% Moldova_Orhei + 64.40% Moldova_Ialoveni

2.26384028
60.40% Moldova_Straseni + 39.60% Moldova_Chisinau

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 03:55 PM

^^^^
above was only with districts and minorities from Moldova. Below will be with those only from Moldavia region. If anyone wants to include/exclude other regions or populations, then I can add/remove them.

2Way admix for users from Romania's Moldavia region

<tbody>
Distance to:
IncelSlayer_?

4.59724090
36.40% Romania_Moldavia_Csango + 63.60% Romania_Ukrainian

4.88686646
18.80% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea + 81.20% Romania_Ukrainian

4.88721197
25.60% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 74.40% Romania_Ukrainian

4.95240714
21.40% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau + 78.60% Romania_Ukrainian

4.97424867
18.00% Romania_Moldavia_Galati + 82.00% Romania_Ukrainian

5.03363038
25.20% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 74.80% Romania_Ukrainian

5.04443694
20.00% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 80.00% Romania_Ukrainian

5.05559208
35.20% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 64.80% Romania_Ukrainian

5.17639015
33.20% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 66.80% Romania_Ukrainian

5.56515695
96.20% Romania_Ukrainian + 3.80% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

6.94496305
61.40% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 38.60% Romania_Moldavia_Csango

7.13217364
63.00% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 37.00% Romania_Moldavia_Csango

7.21542858
84.00% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 16.00% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

11.99598139
10.40% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 89.60% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
andre_23andme

2.76988429
69.20% Romania_Ukrainian + 30.80% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

3.54469114
83.40% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 16.60% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

4.08504744
82.60% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 17.40% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

5.07843530
50.60% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 49.40% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

5.11997551
90.60% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 9.40% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

5.18674935
73.40% Romania_Moldavia_Galati + 26.60% Romania_Ukrainian

5.19980514
33.20% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 66.80% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

5.26520098
86.00% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau + 14.00% Romania_Ukrainian

5.30643282
26.80% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 73.20% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

5.32453120
45.80% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 54.20% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

5.52625113
31.40% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 68.60% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

5.58431503
98.20% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau + 1.80% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

5.58958929
11.60% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 88.40% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

5.60115207
67.00% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 33.00% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

5.76252232
60.40% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 39.60% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

5.88104432
14.80% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 85.20% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

5.90651098
97.80% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 2.20% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

5.92490803
90.60% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 9.40% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

6.00331840
52.40% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 47.60% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

6.06874241
54.80% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 45.20% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

6.07705375
54.00% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 46.00% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

6.15117114
70.80% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea + 29.20% Romania_Ukrainian

6.25354525
42.80% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 57.20% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

6.27178210
46.00% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 54.00% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.33271673
81.60% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 18.40% Romania_Ukrainian

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
WeirdLookingFellow_GF_MyHeritage

2.67519904
45.40% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau + 54.60% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

2.74042666
15.40% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 84.60% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

2.84527012
93.00% Romania_Moldavia_Galati + 7.00% Romania_Ukrainian

2.86005151
19.20% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 80.80% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

2.86427416
19.40% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 80.60% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

2.88528305
11.20% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 88.80% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

2.90293087
20.60% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 79.40% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

2.97507727
61.20% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau + 38.80% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

2.98687412
26.00% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea + 74.00% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

2.98768618
95.80% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau + 4.20% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

2.98933849
93.20% Romania_Moldavia_Galati + 6.80% Romania_Moldavia_Csango

3.27253004
15.80% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 84.20% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

3.34938533
92.80% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea + 7.20% Romania_Ukrainian

3.38751496
20.20% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 79.80% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

3.41262903
18.40% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 81.60% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

3.41422793
10.80% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 89.20% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

3.53888059
5.80% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 94.20% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

3.54135746
98.40% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea + 1.60% Romania_Moldavia_Csango

3.85321250
87.80% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 12.20% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

3.90641666
88.40% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 11.60% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

4.13242979
80.00% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 20.00% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

4.28142149
93.00% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 7.00% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

4.69786790
19.20% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 80.80% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

4.70611845
81.00% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 19.00% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.75908126
79.20% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 20.80% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
WeirdLookingFellow_MyHeritage

5.54401597
76.60% Romania_Moldavia_Csango + 23.40% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

5.54729960
84.00% Romania_Moldavia_Galati + 16.00% Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.58101595
26.00% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 74.00% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

5.63919074
92.60% Romania_Moldavia_Galati + 7.40% Romania_Ukrainian

5.65220770
12.40% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 87.60% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

5.65619466
87.00% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 13.00% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

5.69089628
10.40% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 89.60% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

6.21615422
78.00% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 22.00% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

6.40951066
78.40% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 21.60% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

6.62767934
60.40% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 39.60% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

6.85240343
64.60% Romania_Ukrainian + 35.40% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

6.87573808
77.60% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 22.40% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

6.93039558
85.60% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 14.40% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

7.02423064
77.60% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea + 22.40% Romania_Moldavia_Csango

7.03080232
23.00% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 77.00% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

7.06796596
22.00% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 78.00% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

7.10545114
89.20% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea + 10.80% Romania_Ukrainian

7.22952392
22.20% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 77.80% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

7.23321053
92.80% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau + 7.20% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

7.23896490
34.40% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau + 65.60% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

7.30530703
98.40% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea + 1.60% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

7.39081657
82.40% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau + 17.60% Romania_Moldavia_Csango

7.51299811
7.20% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 92.80% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

7.52800139
1.60% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 98.40% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

7.66999032
90.20% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 9.80% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
alexmegas777_?

8.13836558
78.00% Romania_Moldavia_Csango + 22.00% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

8.70173555
72.60% Romania_Moldavia_Galati + 27.40% Romania_Moldavia_Csango

8.87007338
76.00% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea + 24.00% Romania_Moldavia_Csango

9.01504731
24.00% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 76.00% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

9.03359857
46.60% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea + 53.40% Romania_Moldavia_Galati

9.07759493
20.40% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 79.60% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

9.19620372
87.80% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 12.20% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

9.94644432
14.80% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 85.20% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

9.98110787
91.60% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 8.40% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

10.07232083
71.00% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 29.00% Romania_Moldavia_Csango

10.19851372
59.00% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau + 41.00% Romania_Moldavia_Csango

10.54248292
93.00% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau + 7.00% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

10.63739885
85.40% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 14.60% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

10.94813387
77.00% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 23.00% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

11.04056662
39.80% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 60.20% Romania_Moldavia_Csango

11.39751146
77.00% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 23.00% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

12.60995704
62.40% Romania_Ukrainian + 37.60% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
chrisbab_23andme

3.82970228
65.20% Romania_Moldavia_Botosani + 34.80% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

3.89536908
53.80% Romania_Ukrainian + 46.20% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

3.89779599
64.60% Romania_Moldavia_Suceava + 35.40% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

4.91571459
71.20% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui + 28.80% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

5.06940273
70.60% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 29.40% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

5.63795188
74.60% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 25.40% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

5.71055821
76.20% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau + 23.80% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

5.82500226
61.80% Romania_Moldavia_Csango + 38.20% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

6.12488604
83.40% Romania_Moldavia_Galati + 16.60% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

6.86162313
79.60% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea + 20.40% Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

8.70532213
40.60% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau + 59.40% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

8.79828955
3.60% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 96.40% Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

8.90314274
3.20% Romania_Moldavia_Neamt + 96.80% Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

10.19427489
12.80% Romania_Moldavia_Iasi + 87.20% Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 04:09 PM

From Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

23.25
31.46
14.31
8.38
18.08
1.71
0
0.05
1.52
0.92
0
0.14
0.17

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0

28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0

20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0

21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69

27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08

24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0

23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

23.65
28.15
14.73
10.75
15.39
2.48
1.40
0.91
0.94
0.97
0
0.62
0

22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

28.33
26.91
14.13
10.44
14.83
1.24
2.53
0
0.96
0.33
0
0
0.30

22.27
30.54
17.17
8.17
14.85
3.25
0
0.06
2.15
1.15
0.39
0
0

24.82
28.86
16.91
7.63
16.16
1.99
0.72
0.41
1.50
0.52
0.48
0
0

23.90
28.62
12.32
8.58
17.06
1.83
4.17
0.61
2.02
0.57
0.32
0
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

4.06258538
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.17043163
Moldova_Centre

4.24762286
Moldova_average

4.74974736
Serb_central

4.80440423
Serb_north

4.80603787
Serb

4.97398231
Bosniak

5.16742683
Romania_Maramures

5.59347835
Serb_south

5.83926365
Croat_South

5.90701278
Romania_Moldavia_South

6.69885811
Romania_average

6.76319451
Bulgaria_Northwestern

6.76660920
Moldova_North

6.81334720
Romania_Transylvania

7.00407025
Romania_Crisana

7.28785291
Romania_Banat

7.38281112
Croat_West

7.52348324
Croat_East

7.69053314
Montenegrin

7.78310349
Moldova_South

7.79864091
Székely

7.89359234
Romania_Oltenia

7.99872490
Romania_Dobruja

8.07317162
Croat

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

4.06258538
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.17043163
Moldova_Centru

4.24762286
Moldova_average

5.16742683
Romania_Maramures

5.90701278
Romania_Moldova_Sud

6.69885811
Romania_average

6.76660920
Moldova_Nord

6.81334720
Romania_Transilvania

7.00407025
Romania_Crisana

7.28785291
Romania_Banat

7.78310349
Moldova_Sud

7.89359234
Romania_Oltenia

7.99872490
Romania_Dobrogea

8.26572997
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

8.32999400
Romania_Muntenia

8.67533285
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

8.78356989
Romania_Moldova_Csango

9.40014893
Bulgarian

10.68351066
Romania_Ukrainian

10.74306288
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

11.30049114
Ukrainian_Carpathian

11.92476834
Moldova_Gagauzia

13.61185880
Aromanian

17.64724908
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

27.60998913
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.4962% / 2.49615959 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
25.8 Moldova_average
19.0 Romania_Jewish

-Ukrainian
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.3016% / 3.30156691 | ADC: 0.25x RC
81.5 Moldova_Nord
15.5 Romania_Jewish
3.0 Romania_Moldova_Nord

-Jewish
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.9673% / 3.96734757 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.8 Romania_Moldova_Nord
20.5 Moldova_Centru
8.7 Romania_Muntenia

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

3.89304508
Moldova_Nisporeni

4.10839385
Moldova_Soldanesti

4.28878771
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

4.44285944
Moldova_Balti

4.73855463
Moldova_Chisinau

4.82408541
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

4.86626140
Moldova_Singerei

4.93841068
Moldova_Cimislia

5.15354247
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

5.44365686
Moldova_Falesti

5.47938865
Moldova_Ialoveni

5.54812581
Moldova_Ungheni

5.66762737
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

5.70607571
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

5.80020689
Moldova_Causeni

6.01767397
Moldova_Hincesti

6.14661696
Moldova_Leova

6.25440645
Moldova_Calarasi

6.54625847
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

6.67669829
Moldova_Straseni

7.12127095
Moldova_Telenesti

7.15981843
Moldova_Ocnita

7.16757979
Moldova_Briceni

7.22117719
Moldova_AneniiNoi

7.35095912
Moldova_Orhei

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 04:14 PM

From Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.50
27.87
20.29
9.40
15.86
2.53
0
0.53
1.71
0.31
0
0
0

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</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0

28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0

20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0

21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69

27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08

24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0

23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

23.65
28.15
14.73
10.75
15.39
2.48
1.40
0.91
0.94
0.97
0
0.62
0

22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

28.33
26.91
14.13
10.44
14.83
1.24
2.53
0
0.96
0.33
0
0
0.30

22.27
30.54
17.17
8.17
14.85
3.25
0
0.06
2.15
1.15
0.39
0
0

24.82
28.86
16.91
7.63
16.16
1.99
0.72
0.41
1.50
0.52
0.48
0
0

23.90
28.62
12.32
8.58
17.06
1.83
4.17
0.61
2.02
0.57
0.32
0
0

23.25
31.46
14.31
8.38
18.08
1.71
0
0.05
1.52
0.92
0
0.14
0.17

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

4.37854999
Romania_Banat

4.38611445
Moldova_South

4.38956718
Serb_south

4.49662095
Romania_average

4.59265718
Romania_Moldavia_South

4.75633262
Bulgaria_Northwestern

4.76837499
Romania_Maramures

4.79962499
Romania_Transylvania

4.94012146
Montenegrin

5.03228576
Romania_Oltenia

5.06018774
Serb

5.15042717
Romania_Dobruja

5.22940723
Bosniak_Sandzak

5.36515610
Romania_Wallachia

5.36805365
Serb_central

5.39680461
Romania_Crisana

5.67643374
Romania_Muntenia

5.89177393
Moldova_average

5.99240352
Bulgaria_Southwestern

6.26914667
Serb_north

6.30397494
Bulgaria_average

6.37926328
Moldova_Centre

6.58263625
Bulgaria_Northcentral

6.63196049
Pomak_Bulgaria

6.74930367
Romania_Moldavia_North

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

4.37854999
Romania_Banat

4.38611445
Moldova_Sud

4.49662095
Romania_average

4.59265718
Romania_Moldova_Sud

4.76837499
Romania_Maramures

4.79962499
Romania_Transilvania

5.03228576
Romania_Oltenia

5.15042717
Romania_Dobrogea

5.39680461
Romania_Crisana

5.67643374
Romania_Muntenia

5.89177393
Moldova_average

6.37926328
Moldova_Centru

6.74930367
Romania_Moldova_Nord

6.85208727
Bulgarian

8.73146036
Moldova_Gagauzia

9.41132490
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

9.54896853
Romania_Moldova_Csango

9.63477556
Moldova_Nord

9.91491301
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

10.56622922
Aromanian

14.68717468
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

14.77274179
Romania_Ukrainian

14.99989333
Ukrainian_Carpathian

17.16738477
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

26.69538537
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.4740% / 3.47399146 | ADC: 0.25x RC
84.2 Moldova_Sud
15.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

3.53744258
Moldova_Hincesti

3.79773617
Moldova_Cahul

3.85725291
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

4.97523869
Moldova_Ungheni

5.08538101
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

5.17722899
Moldova_Cantemir

5.23320170
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

5.61476625
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

5.87761857
Moldova_Cimislia

5.98153826
Moldova_StefanVoda

6.00176641
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

6.15568843
Moldova_Causeni

6.40507611
Moldova_Ialoveni

6.48751879
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.49670686
Moldova_Straseni

7.12900414
Moldova_Calarasi

7.16104741
Moldova_Singerei

7.26086772
Moldova_Soldanesti

7.39943241
Moldova_Chisinau

8.12653063
Moldova_Balti

8.14915947
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

8.21562536
Moldova_Ocnita

8.32424771
Moldova_Nisporeni

8.51928988
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

8.67684274
Moldova_Gagauzia

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 04:25 PM

From Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

25.95
29.20
17.32
9.88
11.62
2.80
0
1.67
0.24
0.53
0.73
0
0.06

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0

28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0

20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0

21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69

27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08

24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0

23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

23.65
28.15
14.73
10.75
15.39
2.48
1.40
0.91
0.94
0.97
0
0.62
0

22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

28.33
26.91
14.13
10.44
14.83
1.24
2.53
0
0.96
0.33
0
0
0.30

22.27
30.54
17.17
8.17
14.85
3.25
0
0.06
2.15
1.15
0.39
0
0

24.82
28.86
16.91
7.63
16.16
1.99
0.72
0.41
1.50
0.52
0.48
0
0

23.90
28.62
12.32
8.58
17.06
1.83
4.17
0.61
2.02
0.57
0.32
0
0

23.25
31.46
14.31
8.38
18.08
1.71
0
0.05
1.52
0.92
0
0.14
0.17

21.50
27.87
20.29
9.40
15.86
2.53
0
0.53
1.71
0.31
0
0
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

4.08722400
Csángó-Ceangău

4.16338804
Serb_north

4.40668810
Croat_South

4.55753223
Serb

4.78407776
Romania_Maramures

4.80020833
Serb_central

4.83045547
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.84418208
Székely

4.99823969
Bosniak

5.00960078
Hungarian_Transylvania

5.19070323
Moldova_average

5.34531571
Moldova_Centre

5.38211854
Croat_West

5.88112234
Croat

5.94741120
Romania_Crisana

6.19555486
Romania_Moldavia_South

6.61636607
Moldova_North

6.73366171
Romania_Transylvania

6.82526190
Hungarian_Alföld

6.96219075
Croat_East

7.27818659
Montenegrin

7.32533958
Romania_average

7.42204150
Hungarian

7.79678780
Serb_south

7.98482937
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

4.08722400
Romania_Moldova_Csango

4.78407776
Romania_Maramures

4.83045547
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.84418208
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

5.00960078
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

5.19070323
Moldova_average

5.34531571
Moldova_Centru

5.94741120
Romania_Crisana

6.19555486
Romania_Moldova_Sud

6.61636607
Moldova_Nord

6.73366171
Romania_Transilvania

7.32533958
Romania_average

8.03571403
Romania_Banat

8.08515306
Romania_Oltenia

8.86486323
Moldova_Sud

9.17901411
Romania_Dobrogea

9.72833490
Romania_Muntenia

10.71243203
Ukrainian_Carpathian

10.76115700
Romania_Ukrainian

11.09044183
Bulgarian

11.18018336
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

13.03072907
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

13.40311158
Moldova_Gagauzia

15.14667620
Aromanian

27.18540417
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.0960% / 3.09604511 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.7 Romania_Moldova_Csango
40.5 Romania_Maramures
4.8 Moldova_Nord

-Hungarians
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.8941% / 3.89405102 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.9 Romania_Crisana
19.7 Moldova_Nord
18.4 Ukrainian_Carpathian

-Ukrainians
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.9903% / 3.99026918 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.5 Romania_Crisana
45.5 Moldova_Nord

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

3.65524281
Moldova_Straseni

3.92856208
Moldova_Ialoveni

4.03359641
Moldova_Ocnita

4.08722400
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

4.13481559
Moldova_Calarasi

4.81443662
Moldova_Telenesti

4.88688040
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

4.93328491
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

5.22297808
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

5.42114379
Moldova_Singerei

5.44382219
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

5.56759374
Moldova_Balti

5.89807596
Moldova_Falesti

5.90892545
Moldova_Chisinau

6.15852255
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

6.16107134
Moldova_Soldanesti

6.30756688
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

6.41848113
Moldova_Orhei

6.63521665
Moldova_Hincesti

6.64630725
Moldova_Cahul

6.68445211
Moldova_Nisporeni

7.32621321
Moldova_Ungheni

7.37618465
Moldova_Briceni

7.51298875
Moldova_Transnistria

7.51425312
Moldova_Edinet

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 04:30 PM

From Iasi

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Iasi_in_Romania.svg/250px-Iasi_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.64
30.27
15.09
8.41
18.58
2.95
0
1.39
0
0.19
0.49
0
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0

28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0

20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0

21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69

27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08

24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0

23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

23.65
28.15
14.73
10.75
15.39
2.48
1.40
0.91
0.94
0.97
0
0.62
0

22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

28.33
26.91
14.13
10.44
14.83
1.24
2.53
0
0.96
0.33
0
0
0.30

22.27
30.54
17.17
8.17
14.85
3.25
0
0.06
2.15
1.15
0.39
0
0

24.82
28.86
16.91
7.63
16.16
1.99
0.72
0.41
1.50
0.52
0.48
0
0

23.90
28.62
12.32
8.58
17.06
1.83
4.17
0.61
2.02
0.57
0.32
0
0

23.25
31.46
14.31
8.38
18.08
1.71
0
0.05
1.52
0.92
0
0.14
0.17

21.50
27.87
20.29
9.40
15.86
2.53
0
0.53
1.71
0.31
0
0
0

25.95
29.20
17.32
9.88
11.62
2.80
0
1.67
0.24
0.53
0.73
0
0.06

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

4.54521727
Serb_south

4.67000000
Romania_Maramures

4.76685431
Moldova_average

4.80350913
Moldova_Centre

4.80798295
Serb_central

4.89219787
Serb

4.93641570
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.17588640
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.30579871
Serb_north

5.32907121
Bulgaria_Northwestern

5.70135949
Romania_average

5.95406584
Bosniak

5.99383850
Romania_Transylvania

6.20019355
Romania_Banat

6.44286427
Moldova_South

6.48851293
Romania_Crisana

6.66937029
Montenegrin

6.70489374
Romania_Dobruja

6.70969448
Romania_Oltenia

6.77256229
Croat_South

6.83912275
Romania_Wallachia

7.05720908
Romania_Muntenia

7.35280899
Pomak_Bulgaria

7.55096020
Bosniak_Sandzak

7.60590560
Bulgaria_Northcentral

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

4.67000000
Romania_Maramures

4.76685431
Moldova_average

4.80350913
Moldova_Centru

4.93641570
Romania_Moldova_Nord

5.17588640
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.70135949
Romania_average

5.99383850
Romania_Transilvania

6.20019355
Romania_Banat

6.44286427
Moldova_Sud

6.48851293
Romania_Crisana

6.70489374
Romania_Dobrogea

6.70969448
Romania_Oltenia

7.05720908
Romania_Muntenia

8.00453621
Bulgarian

8.15249655
Moldova_Nord

8.57203593
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

9.45323225
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

9.63089300
Romania_Moldova_Csango

10.59174679
Moldova_Gagauzia

12.02120210
Aromanian

12.03651112
Romania_Ukrainian

12.33610960
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.88853366
Ukrainian_Carpathian

17.70912194
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

27.72959250
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.4518% / 2.45181669 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.2 Romania_Ukrainian
27.7 Bulgarian
16.1 Romania_Jewish

-Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Jewish
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 4.1966% / 4.19664568 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.7 Romania_Moldova_Nord
32.8 Moldova_Sud
22.5 Moldova_Centru

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

4.46992170
Moldova_Nisporeni

4.65473952
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

4.72957715
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

4.88031761
Moldova_Ungheni

4.98718357
Moldova_Hincesti

5.01698116
Moldova_Soldanesti

5.29352435
Moldova_Causeni

5.53251299
Moldova_Leova

5.66760090
Moldova_Cimislia

5.69806107
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

5.70078065
Moldova_Chisinau

5.71138337
Moldova_Ialoveni

5.78669163
Moldova_Balti

5.80119815
Moldova_Singerei

6.16717115
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.31202820
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

6.41167685
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

6.56595766
Moldova_Falesti

6.66815567
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

6.70603460
Moldova_Cahul

6.73539902
Moldova_Calarasi

7.21529625
Moldova_Straseni

7.23827327
Moldova_Cantemir

7.45785492
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

7.84869416
Moldova_Ocnita

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 04:42 PM

From Iasi

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Iasi_in_Romania.svg/250px-Iasi_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

24.54
29.21
16.96
10.04
13.25
2.35
0
1.25
1.21
0
0.86
0.33
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Iasi

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<tbody>
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0

28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0

20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0

21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69

27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08

24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0

23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

23.65
28.15
14.73
10.75
15.39
2.48
1.40
0.91
0.94
0.97
0
0.62
0

22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

28.33
26.91
14.13
10.44
14.83
1.24
2.53
0
0.96
0.33
0
0
0.30

22.27
30.54
17.17
8.17
14.85
3.25
0
0.06
2.15
1.15
0.39
0
0

24.82
28.86
16.91
7.63
16.16
1.99
0.72
0.41
1.50
0.52
0.48
0
0

23.90
28.62
12.32
8.58
17.06
1.83
4.17
0.61
2.02
0.57
0.32
0
0

23.25
31.46
14.31
8.38
18.08
1.71
0
0.05
1.52
0.92
0
0.14
0.17

21.50
27.87
20.29
9.40
15.86
2.53
0
0.53
1.71
0.31
0
0
0

25.95
29.20
17.32
9.88
11.62
2.80
0
1.67
0.24
0.53
0.73
0
0.06

22.64
30.27
15.09
8.41
18.58
2.95
0
1.39
0
0.19
0.49
0
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

3.01814513
Romania_Maramures

3.13914001
Moldova_average

3.30389164
Romania_Moldova_Nord

3.41024926
Moldova_Centru

4.45173000
Romania_Moldova_Sud

4.75546002
Romania_Moldova_Csango

4.75713149
Romania_Crisana

4.94993939
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

5.15691768
Romania_Transilvania

5.53172667
Romania_average

5.54226488
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

5.94404744
Moldova_Nord

6.23125188
Romania_Banat

6.51675533
Romania_Oltenia

7.03441540
Moldova_Sud

7.36708219
Romania_Dobrogea

7.93605066
Romania_Muntenia

9.37110986
Bulgarian

10.98881704
Romania_Ukrainian

11.03754502
Ukrainian_Carpathian

11.28860044
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

11.64046391
Moldova_Gagauzia

13.65349772
Aromanian

14.37461999
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

26.17691349
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 1.7191% / 1.71908246 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.2 Romania_Moldova_Csango
33.4 Moldova_Sud
22.9 Moldova_Nord
4.5 Romania_Maramures

-Csango
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.0004% / 2.00041248 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.1 Romania_Maramures
25.9 Moldova_Nord
7.7 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
3.3 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

-Maramures
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 1.7470% / 1.74697697 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.1 Moldova_Nord
35.5 Moldova_Sud
15.2 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
2.2 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

-Saxon
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.3209% / 2.32090289 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.2 Romania_Transilvania
44.7 Moldova_Nord
1.1 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

2.34196499
Moldova_Ialoveni

2.72462842
Moldova_Straseni

2.81787154
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

3.01116257
Moldova_Calarasi

3.47233351
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

3.98602559
Moldova_Singerei

4.14156975
Moldova_Telenesti

4.23971697
Moldova_Chisinau

4.31555327
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

4.32788632
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

4.32796719
Moldova_Ocnita

4.33207802
Moldova_Balti

4.40263557
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

4.46312671
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

4.61638387
Moldova_Soldanesti

4.75546002
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.00172970
Moldova_Hincesti

5.14697970
Moldova_Ungheni

5.21532358
Moldova_Cahul

5.32401165
Moldova_Falesti

5.45465856
Moldova_Nisporeni

5.50625099
Moldova_Cimislia

5.68108264
Moldova_Orhei

6.17965209
Moldova_Causeni

6.24615882
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 04:47 PM

From Iasi

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Iasi_in_Romania.svg/250px-Iasi_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

27.15
32.77
15.08
7.06
12.05
1.65
0.07
0
1.29
2.01
0.86
0
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0

28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0

20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0

21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69

27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08

24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0

23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

23.65
28.15
14.73
10.75
15.39
2.48
1.40
0.91
0.94
0.97
0
0.62
0

22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

28.33
26.91
14.13
10.44
14.83
1.24
2.53
0
0.96
0.33
0
0
0.30

22.27
30.54
17.17
8.17
14.85
3.25
0
0.06
2.15
1.15
0.39
0
0

24.82
28.86
16.91
7.63
16.16
1.99
0.72
0.41
1.50
0.52
0.48
0
0

23.90
28.62
12.32
8.58
17.06
1.83
4.17
0.61
2.02
0.57
0.32
0
0

23.25
31.46
14.31
8.38
18.08
1.71
0
0.05
1.52
0.92
0
0.14
0.17

21.50
27.87
20.29
9.40
15.86
2.53
0
0.53
1.71
0.31
0
0
0

25.95
29.20
17.32
9.88
11.62
2.80
0
1.67
0.24
0.53
0.73
0
0.06

22.64
30.27
15.09
8.41
18.58
2.95
0
1.39
0
0.19
0.49
0
0

24.54
29.21
16.96
10.04
13.25
2.35
0
1.25
1.21
0
0.86
0.33
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

2.18254439
Croat

2.84028168
Croat_East

3.07458940
Croat_West

3.13448560
Croat_South

3.20426279
Hungarian_Alföld

4.02495963
Bosniak

4.20661384
Hungarian

4.29322722
Croat_North

4.57524863
Csángó-Ceangău

4.96120953
Moldova_North

4.98801564
Serb_north

5.04124985
Hungarian_Transylvania

5.09748958
Székely

5.16457162
Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest

5.31565612
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.40238836
Hungarian_Northern

5.70172781
Slovenian

6.26047123
Serb_central

6.33127159
Serb

6.37306049
Moldova_Centre

6.40985959
Ukrainian_Carpathian

6.48989985
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

6.49420511
Moldova_average

7.23797624
Romania_Maramures

7.62349657
Slovak

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

4.57524863
Romania_Moldova_Csango

4.96120953
Moldova_Nord

5.04124985
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

5.09748958
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

5.31565612
Romania_Moldova_Nord

6.36402388
Romania_Ukrainian

6.37306049
Moldova_Centru

6.40985959
Ukrainian_Carpathian

6.48989985
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

6.49420511
Moldova_average

7.23797624
Romania_Maramures

8.84638909
Romania_Crisana

9.00227749
Romania_Moldova_Sud

9.82730380
Romania_Transilvania

10.42553116
Romania_average

11.26055061
Romania_Banat

11.49846946
Romania_Oltenia

12.15978207
Moldova_Sud

12.44817256
Romania_Dobrogea

12.94547797
Romania_Muntenia

14.05210305
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

14.32116615
Bulgarian

16.97577391
Moldova_Gagauzia

18.54810233
Aromanian

29.23914670
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 1.8464% / 1.84644891 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
27.5 Romania_Moldova_Nord
17.5 Romania_Moldova_Csango
12.0 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

-Hungarians, Saxon
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.2153% / 3.21529710 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.5 Romania_Moldova_Nord
43.5 Romania_Ukrainian

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

3.18367712
Moldova_Ocnita

3.60940438
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

3.88702971
Moldova_Falesti

4.08662452
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

4.52767048
Moldova_Balti

4.57524863
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

4.58012009
Moldova_Rezina

4.59123077
Moldova_Briceni

5.02194186
Moldova_Transnistria

5.20085570
Moldova_Singerei

5.63784533
Moldova_Straseni

5.74849546
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

5.77313606
Moldova_Telenesti

5.86289178
Moldova_Soldanesti

5.98527359
Moldova_Ialoveni

6.20354737
Moldova_Calarasi

6.20468371
Moldova_Chisinau

6.23334581
Moldova_Orhei

6.36402388
Romania_Ukrainian

6.47905857
Moldova_Nisporeni

6.72503532
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

6.81182795
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.85462618
Moldova_Edinet

7.35331218
Moldova_AneniiNoi

7.78124026
Moldova_Donduseni

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 04:53 PM

From Iasi

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Iasi_in_Romania.svg/250px-Iasi_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.18
28.26
17.65
12.59
11.80
2.48
1.84
0.10
0.32
1.04
0.77
0.98
0

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Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0

28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0

20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0

21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69

27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08

24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0

23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

23.65
28.15
14.73
10.75
15.39
2.48
1.40
0.91
0.94
0.97
0
0.62
0

22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

28.33
26.91
14.13
10.44
14.83
1.24
2.53
0
0.96
0.33
0
0
0.30

22.27
30.54
17.17
8.17
14.85
3.25
0
0.06
2.15
1.15
0.39
0
0

24.82
28.86
16.91
7.63
16.16
1.99
0.72
0.41
1.50
0.52
0.48
0
0

23.90
28.62
12.32
8.58
17.06
1.83
4.17
0.61
2.02
0.57
0.32
0
0

23.25
31.46
14.31
8.38
18.08
1.71
0
0.05
1.52
0.92
0
0.14
0.17

21.50
27.87
20.29
9.40
15.86
2.53
0
0.53
1.71
0.31
0
0
0

25.95
29.20
17.32
9.88
11.62
2.80
0
1.67
0.24
0.53
0.73
0
0.06

22.64
30.27
15.09
8.41
18.58
2.95
0
1.39
0
0.19
0.49
0
0

24.54
29.21
16.96
10.04
13.25
2.35
0
1.25
1.21
0
0.86
0.33
0

27.15
32.77
15.08
7.06
12.05
1.65
0.07
0
1.29
2.01
0.86
0
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

5.37523023
Moldova_average

5.60951870
Moldova_Centre

5.88950762
Romania_Maramures

6.06580580
Serb

6.35340853
Romania_Moldavia_North

6.36357604
Serb_north

6.41635410
Romania_Moldavia_South

6.66886047
Serb_central

6.75879427
Romania_average

6.81675143
Romania_Transylvania

7.02472775
Romania_Banat

7.03354818
Romania_Crisana

7.16480984
Bosniak

7.43933465
Moldova_South

7.46170222
Romania_Oltenia

7.47390795
Montenegrin

7.63653063
Croat_South

7.70272030
Csángó-Ceangău

7.80197411
Serb_south

7.91144740
Romania_Wallachia

7.91808058
Romania_Dobruja

7.93247754
Moldova_North

8.15585679
Bulgaria_Northwestern

8.22945928
Romania_Muntenia

8.28216155
Bosniak_Sandzak

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

5.37523023
Moldova_average

5.60951870
Moldova_Centru

5.88950762
Romania_Maramures

6.35340853
Romania_Moldova_Nord

6.41635410
Romania_Moldova_Sud

6.75879427
Romania_average

6.81675143
Romania_Transilvania

7.02472775
Romania_Banat

7.03354818
Romania_Crisana

7.43933465
Moldova_Sud

7.46170222
Romania_Oltenia

7.70272030
Romania_Moldova_Csango

7.91808058
Romania_Dobrogea

7.93247754
Moldova_Nord

8.22945928
Romania_Muntenia

8.38789604
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

8.72973081
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

9.60065623
Bulgarian

10.82553925
Moldova_Gagauzia

13.20157188
Ukrainian_Carpathian

13.63797639
Romania_Ukrainian

13.69830281
Aromanian

13.78960478
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

16.74682657
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

25.26137566
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 4.2917% / 4.29165344 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.0 Moldova_Nord
26.0 Romania_Moldova_Csango
25.7 Moldova_Gagauzia
6.3 Romania_Roma

-Csango, Gagauz, Roma
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 4.8941% / 4.89407082 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.7 Moldova_Sud
43.7 Moldova_Nord
5.5 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
5.1 Crimean_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

4.35183869
Moldova_Straseni

4.71061567
Moldova_Ialoveni

5.19563278
Moldova_Calarasi

5.54558383
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

5.59062608
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

5.65851571
Moldova_Hincesti

5.74659029
Moldova_Telenesti

5.83735385
Moldova_Ungheni

5.90092366
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

6.02012458
Moldova_Chisinau

6.38209997
Moldova_Orhei

6.52167923
Moldova_Cimislia

6.53290900
Moldova_Singerei

6.57930087
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.69082954
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

6.71098353
Moldova_Cahul

7.27539690
Moldova_Balti

7.30931597
Moldova_Soldanesti

7.45081204
Moldova_Ocnita

7.63195257
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

7.67361062
Moldova_Edinet

7.70272030
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

7.74854825
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

7.93397756
Moldova_Causeni

7.95922735
Moldova_Glodeni

</tbody>

Aspirin

02-08-2021, 04:54 PM

Are these people from Iași from a specific village of from the city?

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 05:00 PM

From Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

23.52
33.31
13.19
4.93
18.31
1.51
1.27
2.11
0.27
0.78
0.79
0
0

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Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0

28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0

20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0

21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69

27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08

24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0

23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

23.65
28.15
14.73
10.75
15.39
2.48
1.40
0.91
0.94
0.97
0
0.62
0

22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

28.33
26.91
14.13
10.44
14.83
1.24
2.53
0
0.96
0.33
0
0
0.30

22.27
30.54
17.17
8.17
14.85
3.25
0
0.06
2.15
1.15
0.39
0
0

24.82
28.86
16.91
7.63
16.16
1.99
0.72
0.41
1.50
0.52
0.48
0
0

23.90
28.62
12.32
8.58
17.06
1.83
4.17
0.61
2.02
0.57
0.32
0
0

23.25
31.46
14.31
8.38
18.08
1.71
0
0.05
1.52
0.92
0
0.14
0.17

21.50
27.87
20.29
9.40
15.86
2.53
0
0.53
1.71
0.31
0
0
0

25.95
29.20
17.32
9.88
11.62
2.80
0
1.67
0.24
0.53
0.73
0
0.06

22.64
30.27
15.09
8.41
18.58
2.95
0
1.39
0
0.19
0.49
0
0

24.54
29.21
16.96
10.04
13.25
2.35
0
1.25
1.21
0
0.86
0.33
0

27.15
32.77
15.08
7.06
12.05
1.65
0.07
0
1.29
2.01
0.86
0
0

22.18
28.26
17.65
12.59
11.80
2.48
1.84
0.10
0.32
1.04
0.77
0.98
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

6.79301847
Bosniak

7.06955444
Romania_Moldavia_North

7.36951152
Moldova_Centre

7.42641906
Serb_north

7.49146181
Croat_South

7.60668785
Moldova_average

7.65490039
Serb_central

7.91920451
Serb

8.14587626
Romania_Maramures

8.16298965
Croat_East

8.25811722
Croat_West

8.36907402
Moldova_North

8.71029850
Croat

9.04475539
Serb_south

9.37207554
Romania_Moldavia_South

9.49563057
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

9.60261423
Székely

10.04058763
Romania_Crisana

10.18473858
Hungarian_Alföld

10.21355961
Bulgaria_Northwestern

10.25094630
Romania_Transylvania

10.26198324
Romania_average

10.31367054
Hungarian_Transylvania

10.57314996
Csángó-Ceangău

10.66505040
Ukrainian_Carpathian

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

7.06955444
Romania_Moldova_Nord

7.36951152
Moldova_Centru

7.60668785
Moldova_average

8.14587626
Romania_Maramures

8.36907402
Moldova_Nord

9.13277614
Romania_Ukrainian

9.37207554
Romania_Moldova_Sud

9.49563057
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

9.60261423
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

10.04058763
Romania_Crisana

10.25094630
Romania_Transilvania

10.26198324
Romania_average

10.31367054
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

10.57314996
Romania_Moldova_Csango

10.66505040
Ukrainian_Carpathian

10.88133264
Romania_Banat

11.29784050
Romania_Oltenia

11.37046613
Moldova_Sud

11.51776888
Romania_Dobrogea

11.91217025
Romania_Muntenia

12.93404036
Bulgarian

15.49453129
Moldova_Gagauzia

16.70571459
Aromanian

18.74736782
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

29.41844150
Crimean_Tatar

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^^^^ There is a disbalance between West Med, West Asian and East Med, where the first two are exceptionally low. This is the cause for the poor fits.

Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.9416% / 3.94156489 | ADC: 0.25x RC
80.1 Romania_Ukrainian
19.9 Romania_Jewish

-Ukrainian
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 7.0533% / 7.05331563 | ADC: 0.25x RC
90.4 Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.6 Moldova_Nord

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

5.95773447
Moldova_AneniiNoi

5.98548244
Moldova_Nisporeni

6.26064693
Moldova_Soldanesti

6.36729142
Moldova_Falesti

6.44075306
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

6.54194161
Moldova_Balti

6.58920329
Moldova_Floresti

6.85076638
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

7.06286769
Moldova_Singerei

7.48455075
Moldova_Chisinau

7.81876589
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

8.19963414
Moldova_Briceni

8.29625217
Moldova_Ocnita

8.33454858
Moldova_Ialoveni

8.65673148
Moldova_Hincesti

8.72628787
Moldova_Leova

9.03391942
Moldova_Cimislia

9.07230952
Moldova_Causeni

9.13277614
Romania_Ukrainian

9.19483551
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

9.23303309
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

9.33013398
Moldova_Calarasi

9.36186413
Moldova_Rezina

9.37707310
Moldova_Straseni

9.47506728
Moldova_Ungheni

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Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 05:05 PM

Are these people from Iași from a specific village of from the city?

Pascani, Vladiceni and Bucium are the detailed locations but for the rest it's just Iasi county. I usually ask only for the district/county and if someone wants to tell me more then they do so without me asking. Otherwise, it becomes too creepy for me as a stranger to go so deeply.

Leto

02-08-2021, 05:06 PM

I think Aspirin would score like one of those Iasi guys. 28-33% Baltic, not sure about the rest.

Aspirin

02-08-2021, 05:07 PM

Pascani, Vladiceni and Bucium are the detailed locations but for the rest it's just Iasi county. I usually ask only for the district/county and if someone wants to tell me more then they do so without me asking. Otherwise, it becomes too creepy for me as a stranger to go so deeply.

Their results are quite homogenous.

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 05:11 PM

From Iasi

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Iasi_in_Romania.svg/250px-Iasi_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

23.84
29.11
14.30
8.47
17.33
1.58
3.10
0
1.41
0
0.86
0
0

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Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0

28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0

20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0

21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69

27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08

24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0

23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

23.65
28.15
14.73
10.75
15.39
2.48
1.40
0.91
0.94
0.97
0
0.62
0

22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

28.33
26.91
14.13
10.44
14.83
1.24
2.53
0
0.96
0.33
0
0
0.30

22.27
30.54
17.17
8.17
14.85
3.25
0
0.06
2.15
1.15
0.39
0
0

24.82
28.86
16.91
7.63
16.16
1.99
0.72
0.41
1.50
0.52
0.48
0
0

23.90
28.62
12.32
8.58
17.06
1.83
4.17
0.61
2.02
0.57
0.32
0
0

23.25
31.46
14.31
8.38
18.08
1.71
0
0.05
1.52
0.92
0
0.14
0.17

21.50
27.87
20.29
9.40
15.86
2.53
0
0.53
1.71
0.31
0
0
0

25.95
29.20
17.32
9.88
11.62
2.80
0
1.67
0.24
0.53
0.73
0
0.06

22.64
30.27
15.09
8.41
18.58
2.95
0
1.39
0
0.19
0.49
0
0

24.54
29.21
16.96
10.04
13.25
2.35
0
1.25
1.21
0
0.86
0.33
0

27.15
32.77
15.08
7.06
12.05
1.65
0.07
0
1.29
2.01
0.86
0
0

22.18
28.26
17.65
12.59
11.80
2.48
1.84
0.10
0.32
1.04
0.77
0.98
0

23.52
33.31
13.19
4.93
18.31
1.51
1.27
2.11
0.27
0.78
0.79
0
0

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Distance to:
Iasi_ind

4.01865649
Moldova_Centre

4.05447900
Romania_Maramures

4.13998792
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.42327933
Serb_central

4.42700802
Moldova_average

4.55518386
Serb

4.70024467
Romania_Moldavia_South

4.95899183
Serb_north

4.96464500
Serb_south

5.46600402
Romania_Transylvania

5.47139836
Romania_average

5.55937946
Romania_Crisana

5.70361289
Bosniak

6.05872099
Romania_Banat

6.11608535
Bulgaria_Northwestern

6.19311715
Croat_South

6.53924308
Romania_Oltenia

6.56335280
Montenegrin

6.70054475
Székely

6.83858904
Romania_Dobruja

6.88425014
Romania_Wallachia

6.92521480
Moldova_South

7.19788163
Romania_Muntenia

7.33788798
Croat_West

7.48251963
Hungarian_Transylvania

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

4.01865649
Moldova_Centru

4.05447900
Romania_Maramures

4.13998792
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.42700802
Moldova_average

4.70024467
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.46600402
Romania_Transilvania

5.47139836
Romania_average

5.55937946
Romania_Crisana

6.05872099
Romania_Banat

6.53924308
Romania_Oltenia

6.70054475
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

6.83858904
Romania_Dobrogea

6.92521480
Moldova_Sud

7.19788163
Romania_Muntenia

7.48251963
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

7.97422097
Romania_Moldova_Csango

7.99658052
Moldova_Nord

8.56698897
Bulgarian

10.88837913
Moldova_Gagauzia

11.73796831
Romania_Ukrainian

12.01675913
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.37425553
Ukrainian_Carpathian

12.51953673
Aromanian

16.12118792
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

26.59098343
Crimean_Tatar

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Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 1.5632% / 1.56318107 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
20.8 Romania_Moldova_Nord
17.1 Romania_Jewish
12.0 Romania_Ukrainian
8.1 Romania_Roma
1.0 Moldova_Centru

-Ukrainians, Jewish

Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.0460% / 3.04599647 | ADC: 0.25x RC
87.9 Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.7 Romania_Roma
5.4 Aromanian

-Aromanian
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.0872% / 3.08718384 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.9 Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.9 Romania_Moldova_Sud
7.2 Romania_Roma

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Distance to:
Iasi_ind

3.30945615
Moldova_Nisporeni

3.87373205
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

4.53582407
Moldova_Balti

4.81858901
Moldova_Cimislia

4.83501810
Moldova_Ialoveni

4.83871884
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

4.88985685
Moldova_Calarasi

4.92843789
Moldova_Causeni

4.93036510
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

5.04664245
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

5.16937134
Moldova_Chisinau

5.17554828
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

5.25166640
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

5.27414448
Moldova_Ungheni

5.42416814
Moldova_Soldanesti

5.77967127
Moldova_Singerei

6.01130601
Moldova_Straseni

6.05626122
Moldova_Hincesti

6.19619238
Moldova_Leova

6.31034864
Moldova_Falesti

6.41005460
Moldova_Cahul

6.43280654
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

6.47934410
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

6.73112918
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

7.12304710
Moldova_Telenesti

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Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 05:15 PM

I think Aspirin would score like one of those Iasi guys. 28-33% Baltic, not sure about the rest.

More or less, those in Moldova on the same latitude along the river mirror the results in Romania, so he may land somewhere within the Botosani-Iasi cluster. The 3 results from Falesti and the 4th one that I will publish confirm that they oscillate within this genetic continuum.

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Origin
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

_1/2Falesti_1/2Chisinau
24.90
34.32
14.54
5.42
14.28
2.29
1.58
0
2.07
0
0.34
0
0.25

_Falesti
26.22
34.90
12.85
10.54
10.96
1.08
0.09
1.83
0
0.52
0.41
0
0.59

_Falesti
25.36
29.58
14.13
9.39
15.86
2.33
0
2.32
0.90
0
0
0.14
0

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Leto

02-08-2021, 05:20 PM

More or less, those in Moldova on the same latitude along the river mirror the results in Romania, so he may land somewhere within the Botosani-Iasi cluster. The 3 results from Falesti and the 4th one that I will publish confirm that they oscillate within this genetic continuum.

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Origin
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

_1/2Falesti_1/2Chisinau
24.90
34.32
14.54
5.42
14.28
2.29
1.58
0
2.07
0
0.34
0
0.25

_Falesti
26.22
34.90
12.85
10.54
10.96
1.08
0.09
1.83
0
0.52
0.41
0
0.59

_Falesti
25.36
29.58
14.13
9.39
15.86
2.33
0
2.32
0.90
0
0
0.14
0

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Can you post their Dod K12b components? I wonder how much North_European they will score.

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 05:24 PM

Last one from Iasi

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Iasi_in_Romania.svg/250px-Iasi_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.96
30.34
14.92
8.03
16.13
0.96
0
0.47
1.26
0.62
0.31
0
0

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Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0

28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0

20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0

21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69

27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08

24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0

23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

23.65
28.15
14.73
10.75
15.39
2.48
1.40
0.91
0.94
0.97
0
0.62
0

22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

28.33
26.91
14.13
10.44
14.83
1.24
2.53
0
0.96
0.33
0
0
0.30

22.27
30.54
17.17
8.17
14.85
3.25
0
0.06
2.15
1.15
0.39
0
0

24.82
28.86
16.91
7.63
16.16
1.99
0.72
0.41
1.50
0.52
0.48
0
0

23.90
28.62
12.32
8.58
17.06
1.83
4.17
0.61
2.02
0.57
0.32
0
0

23.25
31.46
14.31
8.38
18.08
1.71
0
0.05
1.52
0.92
0
0.14
0.17

21.50
27.87
20.29
9.40
15.86
2.53
0
0.53
1.71
0.31
0
0
0

25.95
29.20
17.32
9.88
11.62
2.80
0
1.67
0.24
0.53
0.73
0
0.06

22.64
30.27
15.09
8.41
18.58
2.95
0
1.39
0
0.19
0.49
0
0

24.54
29.21
16.96
10.04
13.25
2.35
0
1.25
1.21
0
0.86
0.33
0

27.15
32.77
15.08
7.06
12.05
1.65
0.07
0
1.29
2.01
0.86
0
0

22.18
28.26
17.65
12.59
11.80
2.48
1.84
0.10
0.32
1.04
0.77
0.98
0

23.52
33.31
13.19
4.93
18.31
1.51
1.27
2.11
0.27
0.78
0.79
0
0

23.84
29.11
14.30
8.47
17.33
1.58
3.10
0
1.41
0
0.86
0
0

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Distance to:
Iasi_ind

3.26269827
Serb_north

3.26648129
Romania_Moldavia_North

3.26937303
Serb_central

3.34548950
Croat_South

3.67843717
Serb

3.70645383
Croat_West

4.08320952
Bosniak

4.08434817
Székely

4.31346728
Romania_Maramures

4.65239723
Moldova_Centre

4.83991735
Moldova_average

4.86103898
Hungarian_Transylvania

5.18453469
Croat

5.34642871
Romania_Crisana

5.52076987
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.61011586
Csángó-Ceangău

5.81889165
Croat_East

6.20023387
Serb_south

6.23053770
Romania_Transylvania

6.66546322
Hungarian_Alföld

6.73393644
Moldova_North

6.84023391
Romania_average

7.02652119
Montenegrin

7.17862800
Hungarian

7.71845192
Romania_Banat

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

3.26648129
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.08434817
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

4.31346728
Romania_Maramures

4.65239723
Moldova_Centru

4.83991735
Moldova_average

4.86103898
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

5.34642871
Romania_Crisana

5.52076987
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.61011586
Romania_Moldova_Csango

6.23053770
Romania_Transilvania

6.73393644
Moldova_Nord

6.84023391
Romania_average

7.71845192
Romania_Banat

7.80709293
Romania_Oltenia

8.75256534
Moldova_Sud

8.77088935
Romania_Dobrogea

9.23467920
Romania_Muntenia

9.70399402
Romania_Ukrainian

9.99119112
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

10.28045719
Ukrainian_Carpathian

10.40340810
Bulgarian

13.31465358
Moldova_Gagauzia

13.42378859
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

14.50373745
Aromanian

28.44570969
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 1.8987% / 1.89868545 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.4 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
35.1 Romania_Moldova_Nord
14.6 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
10.9 Romania_Jewish

-IV, Saxon, Jewish
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.5510% / 2.55101718 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.8 Romania_Crisana
30.1 Romania_Ukrainian
10.1 Romania_Moldova_Nord

-Ukrainian
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.1638% / 3.16375028 | ADC: 0.25x RC
84.1 Romania_Moldova_Nord
15.9 Romania_Crisana

<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind

2.41020746
Moldova_Nisporeni

3.09328305
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

3.27012232
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

3.61202159
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

3.64791721
Moldova_Balti

4.05744994
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

4.30138350
Moldova_Falesti

4.55002198
Moldova_Calarasi

4.78288616
Moldova_Soldanesti

4.87887282
Moldova_Ialoveni

5.09263193
Moldova_Ocnita

5.18160207
Moldova_Singerei

5.51944744
Moldova_Causeni

5.55613175
Moldova_Chisinau

5.61011586
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.73520706
Moldova_Straseni

6.05998350
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

6.14240995
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

6.21317954
Moldova_Telenesti

6.66771325
Moldova_Cimislia

6.82671956
Moldova_Orhei

6.91919070
Moldova_Ungheni

6.93310176
Moldova_Briceni

6.96145100
Moldova_Cahul

6.99932854
Moldova_Rezina

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 05:27 PM

Can you post their Dod K12b components? I wonder how much North_European they will score.

I have only the first and last on GEDmatch

<tbody>
Gedrosia
3.23 Pct

Siberian
1.76 Pct

Northwest_African
-

Southeast_Asian
0.62 Pct

Atlantic_Med
26.53 Pct

North_European
42.64 Pct

South_Asian
1.27 Pct

East_African
-

Southwest_Asian
4.57 Pct

East_Asian
-

Caucasus
19.38 Pct

Sub_Saharan
-

</tbody>

<tbody>
Gedrosia
7.18 Pct

Siberian
2.4 Pct

Northwest_African
1.2 Pct

Southeast_Asian
-

Atlantic_Med
27.9 Pct

North_European
39.07 Pct

South_Asian
-

East_African
-

Southwest_Asian
5.43 Pct

East_Asian
-

Caucasus
16.82 Pct

Sub_Saharan
-

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-08-2021, 05:45 PM

I wanted to finish with Romania firstly, but I guess I'll post it early since it was teased.

From Falesti

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Falesti_in_Moldova.svg/300px-Falesti_in_Moldova.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

19.50
33.15
15.66
10.76
14.42
2.92
0
0.71
1.98
0
0.89
0
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Falesti

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

24.90
34.32
14.54
5.42
14.28
2.29
1.58
0
2.07
0
0.34
0
0.25

26.22
34.90
12.85
10.54
10.96
1.08
0.09
1.83
0
0.52
0.41
0
0.59

25.36
29.58
14.13
9.39
15.86
2.33
0
2.32
0.90
0
0
0.14
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Falesti_ind

4.81648212
Moldova_average

5.12627545
Moldova_Centre

5.40124060
Moldova_North

6.14608005
Bosniak

6.38723727
Romania_Moldavia_North

6.78740746
Serb_north

7.14029411
Serb

7.43177637
Romania_Maramures

7.65218270
Serb_central

7.76389078
Croat_South

8.48483353
Romania_Moldavia_South

8.55911210
Croat_East

8.68598872
Serb_south

8.92663991
Romania_average

9.11747772
Bulgaria_Northwestern

9.21046144
Romania_Banat

9.24459301
Moldova_South

9.37698779
Romania_Transylvania

9.70721896
Croat

9.84782209
Romania_Dobruja

9.89499874
Romania_Crisana

9.91781730
Csángó-Ceangău

10.00587827
Pomak_Bulgaria

10.05771843
Croat_West

10.07534615
Romania_Wallachia

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Falesti_ind

4.81648212
Moldova_average

5.12627545
Moldova_Centre

5.40124060
Moldova_North

9.24459301
Moldova_South

10.93903561
Ukrainian_Carpathian

10.97662972
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.82020671
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

13.35933382
Moldova_Ukrainian

13.85222365
Ukrainian_Galicia

15.23093891
Moldova_Bulgarian

18.04491064
Ukrainian

19.79027539
Ukrainian_Belgorod

22.35107604
Russian_Smolensk

25.53948903
Crimean_Tatar

26.28852792
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

28.79450349
Russian_Pinega

32.83892507
Moldova_Jewish

35.28733342
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

Target: Falesti_ind
Distance: 3.8408% / 3.84081790 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.1 Moldova_North
21.9 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
4.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

-Gagauz
Target: Falesti_ind
Distance: 4.0572% / 4.05720464 | ADC: 0.25x RC
67.5 Moldova_North
27.6 Moldova_South
4.9 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

-South
Target: Falesti_ind
Distance: 4.2851% / 4.28506931 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.5 Moldova_average
35.8 Moldova_North
4.7 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar

-Tatar
Target: Falesti_ind
Distance: 4.4729% / 4.47294717 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.9 Moldova_average
37.1 Moldova_North

<tbody>
Distance to:
Falesti_ind

4.17611063
Moldova_Chisinau

4.46966442
Moldova_Singerei

4.59102385
Moldova_Edinet

4.86054524
Moldova_Glodeni

4.91321687
Moldova_Soldanesti

5.46425658
Moldova_Cimislia

5.81145421
Moldova_Hincesti

5.90109312
Moldova_Ialoveni

6.31261436
Moldova_Straseni

6.34078859
Moldova_Balti

6.34333508
Moldova_Telenesti

6.35549369
Moldova_Ungheni

6.45990712
Moldova_Briceni

6.58255270
Moldova_Orhei

6.95685274
Moldova_Falesti

7.67872385
Moldova_AneniiNoi

7.71020103
Moldova_Calarasi

7.80645886
Moldova_Ocnita

8.48390240
Moldova_Nisporeni

8.70936278
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic

8.96751917
Moldova_Floresti

9.54441722
Moldova_Cahul

9.59548852
Moldova_Causeni

9.77278364
Moldova_Leova

10.39849508
Moldova_StefanVoda

</tbody>

Nurzat

02-11-2021, 06:02 PM

RicoSuave

02-11-2021, 06:06 PM

Oltenia people are much more similar to Moldovans than I thought:

Eurogenes K13 (from your site):

Baltic
25% Oltenia
28% Vaslui county

North Atlantic
23% Oltenia
26% Vaslui county

West Asian
around 10% both

East Med
18% Oltenia
15% Vaslui county

results seem quite homogenous overall, I expected more regional variance.

however, on 23andme I often see Romanians with extremely low scores of East European, even below 10% - is it because 23andme looks at recent ancestry and K13 at basic/ancient components? because those Romanians would still score above 20% Baltic on K13 probably

23andme is fixed model, for example if my Father choose Moldovan wife I will be 90% Balkan but I prefer to not be because I'm already good at everything

Ion Basescul

02-11-2021, 06:37 PM

Oltenia people are much more similar to Moldovans than I thought:

Eurogenes K13 (from your site):

Baltic
25% Oltenia
28% Vaslui county

North Atlantic
23% Oltenia
26% Vaslui county

West Asian
around 10% both

East Med
18% Oltenia
15% Vaslui county

results seem quite homogenous overall for all counties, I expected more regional variance.

however, on 23andme I often see southern Romanians with extremely low scores of East European, even below 10% - is it because 23andme looks at recent ancestry and K13 at basic/ancient components? because those Romanians would still score above 20% Baltic on K13 probably

Because 23andme doesn't assign East Euro or Southeast Euro like an Oracle does. It's inferred from matches from what I understand. This is why Serbs score 100% Balkans, but are identical to us almost on GEDmatch models. In the past however, 23andme worked more like an Oracle.

Ion Basescul

02-11-2021, 06:56 PM

From Neamt

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Neamt_in_Romania.svg/250px-Neamt_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.53
27.68
18.20
8.26
14.43
1.65
0
1.64
0.52
1.08
0
0
0

</tbody>
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Compared to others from Neamt

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.38
27.17
14.71
13.65
16.38
2.64
0.06
1.68
1.96
0
0.39
0
0

26.34
27.91
12.93
10.38
15.58
2.13
0.49
0.77
2.12
0.75
0.60
0
0

23.95
24.80
18.46
11.96
15.86
1.51
0
0
1.28
0.66
1.02
0.50
0

23.47
28.61
16.83
11.01
13.76
0.42
2.35
0.55
1.81
0
0.61
0
0.58

24.61
25.21
15.18
11.46
16.78
1.92
0.23
0.34
2.29
0.97
0.88
0.12
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

3.21200872
Romania_Crisana

3.50252766
Romania_Maramures

4.29271476
Romania_Moldova_Sud

4.48972159
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

4.55645696
Romania_Transilvania

4.90077545
Romania_Moldova_Nord

5.10991194
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

5.45194461
Romania_average

5.50836636
Romania_Moldova_Csango

5.77232189
Moldova_average

5.90619167
Moldova_Centru

5.96000000
Romania_Oltenia

6.19709609
Romania_Banat

7.20947293
Moldova_Sud

7.34581514
Romania_Dobrogea

7.92526340
Romania_Muntenia

8.64226822
Moldova_Nord

9.14144409
Bulgarian

11.83464406
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

11.92733415
Moldova_Gagauzia

12.27037897
Romania_Ukrainian

12.55724492
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

12.66843716
Ukrainian_Carpathian

12.86830603
Aromanian

27.99721236
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.0597% / 2.05968160 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.1 Romania_Crisana
22.2 Romania_Maramures
12.5 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
8.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
3.2 Romania_Moldova_Csango
0.4 Romania_Ukrainian

-Saxon
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.1468% / 2.14679260 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.7 Romania_Maramures
18.5 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
2.8 Romania_Moldova_Csango

-Hungarians
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 3.3600% / 3.36003408 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.3 Romania_Transilvania
20.7 Romania_Ukrainian

-Ukrainian, Maramures
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 3.8454% / 3.84542297 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.4 Romania_Transilvania
44.6 Romania_Moldova_Nord

<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

3.90781269
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.32710065
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

4.37827592
Moldova_Cahul

4.68515741
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

4.83030020
Moldova_Calarasi

4.85868295
Moldova_Cantemir

4.88682924
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

5.18610644
Moldova_Ialoveni

5.27219120
Moldova_Causeni

5.33541001
Moldova_Ocnita

5.36884531
Moldova_Straseni

5.50836636
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.58343980
Moldova_Nisporeni

5.74061843
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

5.96080531
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

5.96966498
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

6.06184790
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

6.22665239
Moldova_Balti

6.23790029
Moldova_Hincesti

6.61923712
Moldova_Singerei

6.69867897
Moldova_Soldanesti

6.81431581
Moldova_Ungheni

7.17379258
Moldova_Chisinau

7.23906762
Moldova_Telenesti

7.27667506
Moldova_Falesti

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-11-2021, 07:05 PM

From Neamt

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Neamt_in_Romania.svg/250px-Neamt_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.79
29.68
17.03
13.59
10.86
1.66
1.05
1.29
1.26
0
0.57
0
0.22

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Neamt

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.38
27.17
14.71
13.65
16.38
2.64
0.06
1.68
1.96
0
0.39
0
0

26.34
27.91
12.93
10.38
15.58
2.13
0.49
0.77
2.12
0.75
0.60
0
0

23.95
24.80
18.46
11.96
15.86
1.51
0
0
1.28
0.66
1.02
0.50
0

23.47
28.61
16.83
11.01
13.76
0.42
2.35
0.55
1.81
0
0.61
0
0.58

24.61
25.21
15.18
11.46
16.78
1.92
0.23
0.34
2.29
0.97
0.88
0.12
0

26.53
27.68
18.20
8.26
14.43
1.65
0
1.64
0.52
1.08
0
0
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

5.56659681
Moldova_average

5.79774094
Moldova_Centre

6.53180679
Romania_Moldavia_North

6.60649680
Serb_north

6.76963071
Serb

6.78591925
Moldova_North

6.87653983
Romania_Maramures

6.88473674
Bosniak

7.11874989
Csángó-Ceangău

7.41921829
Serb_central

7.44226444
Croat_South

7.71732467
Romania_Moldavia_South

8.17799486
Romania_Transylvania

8.18457085
Romania_average

8.19208765
Romania_Crisana

8.32606149
Székely

8.54912276
Romania_Banat

8.63414732
Hungarian_Transylvania

8.93969798
Montenegrin

8.96684448
Romania_Oltenia

9.04924306
Croat

9.06933845
Croat_East

9.08123340
Moldova_South

9.15007104
Croat_West

9.15955785
Serb_south

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

5.56659681
Moldova_average

5.79774094
Moldova_Centru

6.53180679
Romania_Moldova_Nord

6.78591925
Moldova_Nord

6.87653983
Romania_Maramures

7.11874989
Romania_Moldova_Csango

7.71732467
Romania_Moldova_Sud

8.17799486
Romania_Transilvania

8.18457085
Romania_average

8.19208765
Romania_Crisana

8.32606149
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

8.54912276
Romania_Banat

8.63414732
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

8.96684448
Romania_Oltenia

9.08123340
Moldova_Sud

9.44407221
Romania_Dobrogea

9.84025914
Romania_Muntenia

11.16360605
Bulgarian

12.02204641
Ukrainian_Carpathian

12.39111779
Moldova_Gagauzia

12.67104968
Romania_Ukrainian

12.91113086
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

15.46560054
Aromanian

17.07492606
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

24.55486917
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 4.5299% / 4.52985771 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.2 Moldova_Nord
22.9 Romania_Moldova_Csango
18.9 Moldova_Gagauzia
4.9 Crimean_Tatar
2.1 Romania_Roma

-Csango, Gagauz
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 4.7799% / 4.77989440 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.5 Moldova_Nord
28.0 Romania_Oltenia
9.3 Crimean_Tatar
3.2 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

-OlteniaTarget: Neamt_ind
Distance: 4.7187% / 4.71871104 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.2 Moldova_Nord
19.1 Moldova_Sud
7.3 Crimean_Tatar
6.8 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
3.6 Romania_Roma

<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

4.52269831
Moldova_Straseni

4.53876635
Moldova_Telenesti

4.98407464
Moldova_Ialoveni

5.18678128
Moldova_Orhei

5.39474745
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

5.54491659
Moldova_Calarasi

5.66907400
Moldova_Chisinau

6.13578031
Moldova_Singerei

6.31195691
Moldova_Edinet

6.42693551
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

6.67056220
Moldova_Ungheni

6.67887715
Moldova_Glodeni

6.73744759
Moldova_Cimislia

6.95613398
Moldova_Soldanesti

6.97094685
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

7.05642261
Moldova_Balti

7.10517417
Moldova_Falesti

7.11874989
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

7.13982493
Moldova_Ocnita

7.24888267
Moldova_Hincesti

7.30870714
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

7.31777289
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

7.50788252
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

7.98172287
Moldova_Briceni

8.22857825
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-11-2021, 07:18 PM

From Neamt

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Neamt_in_Romania.svg/250px-Neamt_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

27.11
25.98
19.13
8.75
12.11
1.66
1.33
0.95
0.61
1.20
0.56
0.12
0.50

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</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Neamt

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.38
27.17
14.71
13.65
16.38
2.64
0.06
1.68
1.96
0
0.39
0
0

26.34
27.91
12.93
10.38
15.58
2.13
0.49
0.77
2.12
0.75
0.60
0
0

23.95
24.80
18.46
11.96
15.86
1.51
0
0
1.28
0.66
1.02
0.50
0

23.47
28.61
16.83
11.01
13.76
0.42
2.35
0.55
1.81
0
0.61
0
0.58

24.61
25.21
15.18
11.46
16.78
1.92
0.23
0.34
2.29
0.97
0.88
0.12
0

26.53
27.68
18.20
8.26
14.43
1.65
0
1.64
0.52
1.08
0
0
0

22.79
29.68
17.03
13.59
10.86
1.66
1.05
1.29
1.26
0
0.57
0
0.22

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

4.90937878
Romania_Crisana

5.36758791
Székely

5.44565882
Hungarian_Transylvania

5.70421774
Csángó-Ceangău

5.70458587
Romania_Maramures

5.87081766
Serb_central

5.90477773
Serb

6.14637291
Romania_Transylvania

6.17128836
Romania_Moldavia_South

6.36363890
Montenegrin

6.42246837
Serb_north

7.02449998
Croat_South

7.05800963
Romania_average

7.10535010
Romania_Moldavia_North

7.22654828
Bosniak_Sandzak

7.27666132
Romania_Oltenia

7.30340332
Croat_West

7.61549736
Romania_Banat

7.71569180
Moldova_average

7.75428914
Serb_south

7.80033974
Moldova_Centre

8.09476992
Bosniak

8.49207277
Croat

8.62891071
Moldova_South

8.63617971
Romania_Wallachia

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

4.90937878
Romania_Crisana

5.36758791
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

5.44565882
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

5.70421774
Romania_Moldova_Csango

5.70458587
Romania_Maramures

6.14637291
Romania_Transilvania

6.17128836
Romania_Moldova_Sud

7.05800963
Romania_average

7.10535010
Romania_Moldova_Nord

7.27666132
Romania_Oltenia

7.61549736
Romania_Banat

7.71569180
Moldova_average

7.80033974
Moldova_Centru

8.62891071
Moldova_Sud

8.72801237
Romania_Dobrogea

9.23762957
Romania_Muntenia

10.22349255
Moldova_Nord

10.50595069
Bulgarian

10.57816619
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

12.79919919
Moldova_Gagauzia

13.78222406
Aromanian

13.79641258
Romania_Ukrainian

13.87439728
Ukrainian_Carpathian

14.05601651
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

27.77809749
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 3.2345% / 3.23446340 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.1 Romania_Crisana
31.5 Romania_Moldova_Csango
18.9 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
2.5 Romania_Roma

-Saxon
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 3.9008% / 3.90075231 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.3 Romania_Crisana
41.7 Romania_Moldova_Csango

-Csango
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 4.7163% / 4.71625569 | ADC: 0.25x RC
90.5 Romania_Crisana
9.5 Ukrainian_Carpathian

-Crisana
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 5.6633% / 5.66330442 | ADC: 0.25x RC
77.7 Romania_Maramures
22.3 Romania_Transilvania

<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

5.24799009
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

5.63887400
Moldova_Cahul

5.70421774
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.75091297
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

5.79751671
Moldova_Calarasi

6.19345622
Moldova_Straseni

6.48353299
Moldova_Cantemir

6.49504426
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

6.64593861
Moldova_Ialoveni

6.76351240
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

6.80645282
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

6.85416662
Moldova_Ocnita

7.18980528
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

7.36613874
Moldova_Causeni

7.81158115
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

7.98981852
Moldova_Hincesti

8.08816419
Moldova_Nisporeni

8.15043557
Moldova_Balti

8.15990809
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

8.22818935
Moldova_Telenesti

8.53611738
Moldova_Singerei

8.64453006
Moldova_Ungheni

8.93174675
Moldova_Chisinau

8.99404803
Moldova_Soldanesti

9.24948647
Moldova_Orhei

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-11-2021, 07:33 PM

From Neamt

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Neamt_in_Romania.svg/250px-Neamt_in_Romania.svg.png

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<tbody>
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

24.61
24.66
19.42
9.60
13.85
3.03
0
0.61
3.32
0.22
0
0
0.67

</tbody>
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Compared to others from Neamt

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<tbody>
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

21.38
27.17
14.71
13.65
16.38
2.64
0.06
1.68
1.96
0
0.39
0
0

26.34
27.91
12.93
10.38
15.58
2.13
0.49
0.77
2.12
0.75
0.60
0
0

23.95
24.80
18.46
11.96
15.86
1.51
0
0
1.28
0.66
1.02
0.50
0

23.47
28.61
16.83
11.01
13.76
0.42
2.35
0.55
1.81
0
0.61
0
0.58

24.61
25.21
15.18
11.46
16.78
1.92
0.23
0.34
2.29
0.97
0.88
0.12
0

26.53
27.68
18.20
8.26
14.43
1.65
0
1.64
0.52
1.08
0
0
0

22.79
29.68
17.03
13.59
10.86
1.66
1.05
1.29
1.26
0
0.57
0
0.22

27.11
25.98
19.13
8.75
12.11
1.66
1.33
0.95
0.61
1.20
0.56
0.12
0.50

</tbody>
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<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

4.84380016
Romania_Crisana

4.84511094
Romania_Transilvania

5.09737187
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.31931387
Romania_average

5.45719708
Romania_Banat

5.47348152
Romania_Oltenia

5.77966262
Romania_Maramures

6.13215297
Moldova_Sud

6.24142612
Romania_Dobrogea

6.79412982
Romania_Muntenia

7.37556777
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

7.60735828
Moldova_average

7.69017555
Romania_Moldova_Nord

7.84868779
Romania_Moldova_Csango

7.85692688
Moldova_Centru

7.90106322
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

8.09754284
Bulgarian

9.88684479
Moldova_Gagauzia

10.96890605
Aromanian

11.14709828
Moldova_Nord

13.53618853
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

15.89995597
Romania_Ukrainian

15.95188704
Ukrainian_Carpathian

16.02108611
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

25.31859593
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 3.3105% / 3.31054338 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.7 Moldova_Sud
27.9 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
9.4 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

-Saxon
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 4.1468% / 4.14676806 | ADC: 0.25x RC
71.4 Romania_Crisana
15.0 Moldova_Sud
7.1 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
6.5 Romania_Moldova_Csango

-Crisana
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 4.2665% / 4.26651728 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.5 Romania_Transilvania
15.1 Romania_Moldova_Csango
5.4 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

-Csango
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 4.4224% / 4.42244384 | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.2 Romania_Transilvania
6.8 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

3.76673599
Moldova_Cahul

4.30238306
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

4.63525620
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

4.89146195
Moldova_Cantemir

5.41138614
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

5.56329938
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

5.79116569
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.64271029
Moldova_Calarasi

6.77851016
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

7.00127845
Moldova_Straseni

7.17728361
Moldova_Causeni

7.18557583
Moldova_Ialoveni

7.27683310
Moldova_Ungheni

7.29669788
Moldova_Hincesti

7.57819899
Moldova_StefanVoda

7.84868779
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

7.85505570
Moldova_Cimislia

8.86844406
Moldova_Telenesti

8.96355956
Moldova_Nisporeni

9.03322755
Moldova_Ocnita

9.05158550
Moldova_Balti

9.07143318
Moldova_Singerei

9.10740907
Moldova_Chisinau

9.13265569
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

9.17953703
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

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Ion Basescul

02-11-2021, 07:38 PM

From Neamt

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/Neamt_in_Romania.svg/250px-Neamt_in_Romania.svg.png

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<colgroup><col style="width: 68px"><col width="39"><col width="66"><col width="73"><col width="63"><col width="55"><col width="78"><col width="70"><col width="54"><col width="74"><col width="60"><col width="74"><col width="80"></colgroup><tbody>
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.16
27.31
16.52
11.77
12.85
2.38
0
1.29
0.40
0.61
0.50
0
0.21

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Neamt

<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

4.56889483
Romania_Maramures

4.74363784
Romania_Crisana

4.74696745
Serb

4.99782953
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.02304688
Serb_central

5.03318984
Serb_north

5.09276938
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.11771433
Csángó-Ceangău

5.12200156
Székely

5.24583644
Romania_Transylvania

5.39922217
Moldova_average

5.46740341
Hungarian_Transylvania

5.49124758
Moldova_Centre

5.74950433
Montenegrin

5.85554438
Romania_average

5.92196758
Croat_South

6.36499804
Bosniak

6.42116033
Romania_Oltenia

6.54780116
Romania_Banat

6.74372301
Croat_West

6.89387409
Serb_south

7.00457708
Bosniak_Sandzak

7.46706100
Moldova_South

7.49044057
Romania_Wallachia

7.56853354
Romania_Dobruja

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

4.56889483
Romania_Maramures

4.74363784
Romania_Crisana

4.99782953
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.09276938
Romania_Moldova_Nord

5.11771433
Romania_Moldova_Csango

5.12200156
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

5.24583644
Romania_Transilvania

5.39922217
Moldova_average

5.46740341
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

5.49124758
Moldova_Centru

5.85554438
Romania_average

6.42116033
Romania_Oltenia

6.54780116
Romania_Banat

7.46706100
Moldova_Sud

7.56853354
Romania_Dobrogea

8.00581664
Romania_Muntenia

8.12173011
Moldova_Nord

9.25366414
Bulgarian

11.43541866
Moldova_Gagauzia

12.73490872
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

12.78757209
Ukrainian_Carpathian

12.92595451
Romania_Ukrainian

13.24057401
Aromanian

13.37142850
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

26.19966794
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.7751% / 2.77506548 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.1 Romania_Moldova_Csango
28.4 Moldova_Gagauzia
7.5 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

-Csango, Gagauz
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 3.8486% / 3.84859530 | ADC: 0.25x RC
71.3 Romania_Crisana
25.1 Moldova_Nord
3.6 Crimean_Tatar

-Crisana
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 4.1976% / 4.19761703 | ADC: 0.25x RC
67.9 Romania_Transilvania
30.5 Moldova_Nord
1.6 Crimean_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind

2.63184346
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

3.40976539
Moldova_Calarasi

3.82393776
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.26314438
Moldova_Ialoveni

4.61202775
Moldova_Straseni

4.80213494
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

5.11771433
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

5.20743699
Moldova_Telenesti

5.37103342
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

5.57634289
Moldova_Cahul

6.06975288
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

6.16329457
Moldova_Ungheni

6.18751162
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

6.31732538
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

6.34279907
Moldova_Balti

6.39255035
Moldova_Ocnita

6.40836173
Moldova_Causeni

6.42130049
Moldova_Nisporeni

6.47973765
Moldova_Chisinau

6.67663089
Moldova_Singerei

6.82586991
Moldova_Orhei

7.01429968
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

7.09104365
Moldova_Hincesti

7.11593985
Moldova_Soldanesti

7.16696589
Moldova_Cimislia

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-12-2021, 12:48 AM

From Bacau

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Bacau_in_Romania.svg/250px-Bacau_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

24.08
26.97
17.29
11.94
16.15
0
0
1.55
1.58
0.36
0.08
0
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Bacau

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

20.27
29.07
15.56
13.35
16.72
2.23
0
0.16
0.76
0.72
1.14
0
0

25.87
26.84
16.97
10.82
15.72
1.10
0.45
0.17
0.89
0
0.85
0
0.32

22.55
24.80
21.31
8.66
17.58
1.89
0
0
0.34
1.46
1.29
0.10
0

20.62
26.86
20.13
11.88
14.52
1.60
0.89
0
0.98
1.42
1.11
0
0

21.74
29.09
17.75
6.85
19.55
3.31
0
0.17
1.17
0.36
0
0
0

22.08
27.48
18.09
4.49
22.76
1.90
0.19
2.09
0.46
0
0.19
0.28
0

27.65
28.32
15.21
12.81
7.97
2.20
2.90
0
0.30
1.48
0
0
1.15

20.68
27.83
15.95
11.59
17.86
2.79
0
0.93
0
1.93
0.45
0
0

24.74
24.26
16.57
10.63
17.44
2.73
1.35
1.46
0
0.60
0.21
0
0

24.37
27.43
14.81
10.05
14.49
3.20
2.96
0.37
0.96
0.79
0.51
0
0.06

24.24
27.89
14.20
9.72
16.82
3.08
0
1.03
1.49
0.28
0.76
0
0.48

23.04
29.67
14.32
8.00
19.96
3.18
0
0.19
1.18
0
0.29
0
0.17

20.76
27.29
21.65
10.28
16.69
0.23
0
1.47
0.13
0.62
0.86
0
0

23.99
25.75
19.11
11.87
15.35
1.65
0.26
0
1.75
0.17
0.10
0
0

30.43
25.62
14.28
9.25
15.46
0.92
0.77
0
0
1.83
0
0.84
0.56

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Bacau_ind

3.20904970
Romania_Transilvania

3.26364827
Romania_average

3.31522247
Romania_Moldova_Sud

3.53512376
Romania_Crisana

3.71692077
Romania_Banat

3.72506376
Romania_Oltenia

4.13402951
Romania_Maramures

4.54104613
Romania_Dobrogea

4.63984914
Moldova_Sud

4.96222732
Romania_Muntenia

5.19249458
Moldova_average

5.40381347
Moldova_Centru

5.43623951
Romania_Moldova_Nord

6.03588436
Bulgarian

7.14850334
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

7.90421407
Romania_Moldova_Csango

8.02056731
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

8.21524193
Moldova_Gagauzia

9.21621940
Moldova_Nord

10.42434650
Aromanian

14.56421986
Romania_Ukrainian

14.64950511
Ukrainian_Carpathian

14.79607718
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

15.21935938
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

25.38758752
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 2.4481% / 2.44809216 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.7 Romania_Oltenia
25.1 Romania_Crisana
16.9 Moldova_Nord
4.3 Crimean_Tatar

-Oltenia, Crisana
Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 2.7173% / 2.71730435 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.2 Romania_Transilvania
12.0 Moldova_Nord
5.8 Romania_average
4.0 Crimean_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Bacau_ind

3.09977419
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

3.17686953
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

3.48861004
Moldova_Ungheni

3.57319185
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

3.94859469
Moldova_Cahul

3.97840420
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.20869338
Moldova_Causeni

4.64633189
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

4.76334966
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

4.76352810
Moldova_Cimislia

5.02204142
Moldova_Calarasi

5.45439273
Moldova_Ialoveni

5.85615061
Moldova_Cantemir

6.13611441
Moldova_Hincesti

6.19517554
Moldova_Straseni

6.21701697
Moldova_Nisporeni

6.48986903
Moldova_StefanVoda

6.68004491
Moldova_Chisinau

6.78768002
Moldova_Soldanesti

6.95906603
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

6.99899278
Moldova_Balti

7.03968749
Moldova_Singerei

7.16989540
Moldova_Telenesti

7.47921787
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

7.69623934
Moldova_Orhei

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-12-2021, 12:59 AM

From Vaslui

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Vaslui_in_Romania.svg/250px-Vaslui_in_Romania.svg.png

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.70
28.00
15.10
8.66
18.25
2.03
1.24
0
2.77
0.71
0.48
0.07
0

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Compared to others from Vaslui

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.56
26.95
15.36
8.59
16.04
3.01
0.55
0.08
2.86
0
0
0
0

27.11
28.41
15.71
11.50
11.75
2.05
0.24
0
2.54
0
0.17
0.51
0

23.46
28.78
17.10
9.49
15.08
2.33
0.19
0.10
2.35
0.58
0.56
0
0

27.35
30.13
13.04
10.69
15.62
1.55
0
0
1.50
0.11
0
0
0

24.66
30.29
16.67
14.00
10.44
0.58
0.27
0
1.69
0.91
0.09
0.40
0

28.06
24.76
17.53
6.52
18.76
0
0.10
0
1.37
1.36
0.22
0
1.32

23.23
26.67
18.62
9.95
18.12
0
0
0.36
1.41
0.91
0.45
0.18
0.10

26.83
28.68
12.40
9.88
16.13
2.43
0
0
2.06
0.76
0.19
0.05
0.60

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_ind

3.50853246
Serb_south

3.76478419
Romania_Moldavia_South

4.10749315
Romania_average

4.25578430
Romania_Maramures

4.25671235
Bulgaria_Northwestern

4.43009029
Romania_Transylvania

4.50284355
Romania_Banat

4.74262585
Moldova_Centre

4.81222402
Serb_central

4.82187723
Moldova_average

4.86949689
Serb

4.93797529
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.03042742
Romania_Dobruja

5.07151851
Moldova_South

5.19461259
Romania_Wallachia

5.20111527
Romania_Crisana

5.24534079
Romania_Oltenia

5.36852866
Montenegrin

5.38746694
Romania_Muntenia

5.84315839
Serb_north

6.00403198
Bulgaria_Southwestern

6.05963695
Bulgaria_Northcentral

6.20607767
Bulgaria_average

6.22488554
Bosniak_Sandzak

6.64070779
Pomak_Bulgaria

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_ind

3.76478419
Romania_Moldova_Sud

4.10749315
Romania_average

4.25578430
Romania_Maramures

4.43009029
Romania_Transilvania

4.50284355
Romania_Banat

4.74262585
Moldova_Centru

4.82187723
Moldova_average

4.93797529
Romania_Moldova_Nord

5.03042742
Romania_Dobrogea

5.07151851
Moldova_Sud

5.20111527
Romania_Crisana

5.24534079
Romania_Oltenia

5.38746694
Romania_Muntenia

6.74259594
Bulgarian

7.65311701
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

8.61028455
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

8.93610094
Romania_Moldova_Csango

9.03493221
Moldova_Nord

9.05029834
Moldova_Gagauzia

10.60659700
Aromanian

13.50517679
Romania_Ukrainian

13.62992296
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

14.02870985
Ukrainian_Carpathian

16.90705770
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

25.56404702
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Vaslui_ind
Distance: 1.3151% / 1.31513748 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
35.5 Moldova_Centru
22.9 Romania_Jewish
4.6 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

-IV, Jewish
Target: Vaslui_ind
Distance: 2.8730% / 2.87295625 | ADC: 0.25x RC
72.5 Romania_Muntenia
24.0 Romania_Ukrainian
3.5 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

-Ukrainian

Target: Vaslui_ind
Distance: 3.0643% / 3.06427866 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.7 Romania_Moldova_Nord
46.3 Romania_Muntenia
3.0 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_ind

3.89858949
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

3.95713280
Moldova_Cimislia

4.27144004
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

4.31105556
Moldova_Causeni

4.31262101
Moldova_Ungheni

4.35951832
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.80358200
Moldova_Nisporeni

5.01835630
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

5.14456023
Moldova_Cahul

5.18264411
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

5.21995211
Moldova_Leova

5.47633089
Moldova_Hincesti

5.69848225
Moldova_Ialoveni

5.72381866
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

5.80284413
Moldova_Calarasi

5.98255798
Moldova_Balti

6.03472452
Moldova_Chisinau

6.14698300
Moldova_Cantemir

6.26684131
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

6.32453160
Moldova_Soldanesti

6.57426041
Moldova_Singerei

6.65726671
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

6.66138874
Moldova_StefanVoda

6.77693884
Moldova_Straseni

7.10211236
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-12-2021, 01:06 AM

From Vaslui

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

25.27
27.16
13.27
10.01
17.08
3.24
0
0
2.56
0.3
0.52
0.58
0

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</google-sheets-html-origin>
Compared to others from Vaslui

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.56
26.95
15.36
8.59
16.04
3.01
0.55
0.08
2.86
0
0
0
0

27.11
28.41
15.71
11.50
11.75
2.05
0.24
0
2.54
0
0.17
0.51
0

23.46
28.78
17.10
9.49
15.08
2.33
0.19
0.10
2.35
0.58
0.56
0
0

27.35
30.13
13.04
10.69
15.62
1.55
0
0
1.50
0.11
0
0
0

24.66
30.29
16.67
14.00
10.44
0.58
0.27
0
1.69
0.91
0.09
0.40
0

28.06
24.76
17.53
6.52
18.76
0
0.10
0
1.37
1.36
0.22
0
1.32

23.23
26.67
18.62
9.95
18.12
0
0
0.36
1.41
0.91
0.45
0.18
0.10

26.83
28.68
12.40
9.88
16.13
2.43
0
0
2.06
0.76
0.19
0.05
0.60

22.70
28.00
15.10
8.66
18.25
2.03
1.24
0
2.77
0.71
0.48
0.07
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_ind

4.49884430
Romania_Moldavia_South

4.99060117
Romania_Maramures

5.00352875
Romania_Transylvania

5.03952379
Romania_Moldavia_North

5.19683558
Romania_average

5.34500702
Moldova_Centre

5.42433406
Romania_Crisana

5.43676374
Serb_south

5.44068929
Serb_central

5.55158536
Moldova_average

5.56064744
Serb

5.69267073
Montenegrin

5.86982112
Romania_Banat

6.13633441
Romania_Oltenia

6.15284487
Serb_north

6.21752362
Székely

6.23996795
Bulgaria_Northwestern

6.43016329
Romania_Dobruja

6.45747629
Romania_Wallachia

6.66797570
Moldova_South

6.73513177
Romania_Muntenia

6.80311693
Bulgaria_Southwestern

7.01593900
Hungarian_Transylvania

7.04787911
Bosniak_Sandzak

7.18958274
Bosniak

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_ind

4.49884430
Romania_Moldova_Sud

4.99060117
Romania_Maramures

5.00352875
Romania_Transilvania

5.03952379
Romania_Moldova_Nord

5.19683558
Romania_average

5.34500702
Moldova_Centru

5.42433406
Romania_Crisana

5.55158536
Moldova_average

5.86982112
Romania_Banat

6.13633441
Romania_Oltenia

6.21752362
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

6.43016329
Romania_Dobrogea

6.66797570
Moldova_Sud

6.73513177
Romania_Muntenia

7.01593900
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

7.62013779
Romania_Moldova_Csango

7.94962892
Bulgarian

9.16001092
Moldova_Nord

10.31941374
Moldova_Gagauzia

11.57890755
Aromanian

13.45228605
Romania_Ukrainian

13.79010152
Ukrainian_Carpathian

13.84340998
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

14.83060349
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

25.44636516
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Vaslui_ind
Distance: 3.0666% / 3.06661475 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.0 Romania_Moldova_Nord
30.4 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
11.3 Romania_Jewish
3.3 Crimean_Tatar

-Szekely, Jewish
Target: Vaslui_ind
Distance: 3.8324% / 3.83239419 | ADC: 0.25x RC
75.2 Romania_Moldova_Nord
21.0 Aromanian
3.8 Crimean_Tatar

-Aromanian
Target: Vaslui_ind
Distance: 3.9987% / 3.99868266 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.1 Romania_Moldova_Sud
36.4 Romania_Moldova_Nord
4.5 Crimean_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_ind

3.21885073
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

4.53321078
Moldova_Nisporeni

4.86957904
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

4.86990760
Moldova_Calarasi

4.88636879
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

5.14825213
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

5.32362658
Moldova_Causeni

5.59275424
Moldova_Ialoveni

5.68375756
Moldova_Ungheni

5.73500654
Moldova_Cimislia

6.01732499
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

6.03956952
Moldova_Balti

6.04687523
Moldova_Cahul

6.10836312
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

6.14805660
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

6.21983119
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

6.57365195
Moldova_Chisinau

6.88680623
Moldova_Straseni

6.98979971
Moldova_Telenesti

7.20728798
Moldova_Cantemir

7.26728285
Moldova_Falesti

7.33342348
Moldova_Singerei

7.35369975
Moldova_Soldanesti

7.62013779
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

7.66039163
Moldova_Hincesti

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-12-2021, 11:31 AM

From Vaslui

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Vaslui_in_Romania.svg/250px-Vaslui_in_Romania.svg.png

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Kit
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

1
22.92
26.48
17.20
8.66
18.98
1.75
0.35
2.56
0.72
0.32
0.06
0
0

2
28.66
23.95
15.36
6.58
16.85
3.30
3.16
1.72
0.22
0
0
0
0.19

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Compared to others from Vaslui

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

26.56
26.95
15.36
8.59
16.04
3.01
0.55
0.08
2.86
0
0
0
0

27.11
28.41
15.71
11.50
11.75
2.05
0.24
0
2.54
0
0.17
0.51
0

23.46
28.78
17.10
9.49
15.08
2.33
0.19
0.10
2.35
0.58
0.56
0
0

27.35
30.13
13.04
10.69
15.62
1.55
0
0
1.50
0.11
0
0
0

24.66
30.29
16.67
14.00
10.44
0.58
0.27
0
1.69
0.91
0.09
0.40
0

28.06
24.76
17.53
6.52
18.76
0
0.10
0
1.37
1.36
0.22
0
1.32

23.23
26.67
18.62
9.95
18.12
0
0
0.36
1.41
0.91
0.45
0.18
0.10

26.83
28.68
12.40
9.88
16.13
2.43
0
0
2.06
0.76
0.19
0.05
0.60

22.70
28.00
15.10
8.66
18.25
2.03
1.24
0
2.77
0.71
0.48
0.07
0

25.27
27.16
13.27
10.01
17.08
3.24
0
0
2.56
0.3
0.52
0.58
0

</tbody>
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1

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_1

2.71895200
Serb_south

2.80312326
Bulgaria_Northwestern

3.20533930
Romania_average

3.39527613
Romania_Banat

3.46379849
Romania_Oltenia

3.53896878
Romania_Dobruja

3.56957981
Romania_Moldavia_South

3.58591690
Romania_Transylvania

3.70723617
Moldova_South

3.71293684
Romania_Wallachia

3.98123097
Montenegrin

4.04312998
Romania_Muntenia

4.12762644
Bosniak_Sandzak

4.36768818
Bulgaria_Southwestern

4.41471403
Romania_Crisana

4.62825021
Bulgaria_average

4.64028016
Romania_Maramures

4.86880889
Bulgaria_Northcentral

5.23371761
Bulgaria_Southcentral

5.36584569
Pomak_Bulgaria

5.40608916
Serb_central

5.53036165
Serb

6.25790764
Macednia_north

6.59554395
Moldova_average

6.65652312
MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_1

3.20533930
Romania_average

3.39527613
Romania_Banat

3.46379849
Romania_Oltenia

3.53896878
Romania_Dobrogea

3.56957981
Romania_Moldova_Sud

3.58591690
Romania_Transilvania

3.70723617
Moldova_Sud

4.04312998
Romania_Muntenia

4.41471403
Romania_Crisana

4.64028016
Romania_Maramures

4.91502798
Bulgarian

6.59554395
Moldova_average

6.67750702
Romania_Moldova_Nord

6.71997024
Moldova_Centru

7.68247356
Moldova_Gagauzia

8.53881725
Aromanian

8.80228947
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

9.79231842
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

10.19981372
Romania_Moldova_Csango

11.00496706
Moldova_Nord

15.26591301
Romania_Ukrainian

15.57819309
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

16.02917340
Ukrainian_Carpathian

16.38732132
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

26.56058358
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Vaslui_1
Distance: 2.1562% / 2.15619309 | ADC: 0.25x RC
30.5 Romania_Dobrogea
30.4 Romania_Ukrainian
24.4 Romania_Oltenia
14.7 Romania_Jewish

-Ukrainian, JewishTarget: Vaslui_1
Distance: 2.9841% / 2.98410211 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.1 Romania_Dobrogea
34.9 Romania_Maramures

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_1

3.13553823
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

3.65123267
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

3.74597117
Moldova_Cantemir

3.91786932
Moldova_Causeni

4.08773776
Moldova_Cahul

4.47815810
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

4.76688578
Moldova_Ungheni

5.08257809
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

5.32835810
Moldova_StefanVoda

5.53446474
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

5.54578218
Moldova_Hincesti

5.90792688
Moldova_Leova

5.94230595
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

6.20945247
Moldova_Nisporeni

6.37909084
Moldova_Cimislia

7.15424350
Moldova_Ialoveni

7.18018802
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

7.39915536
Moldova_Calarasi

7.45459590
Moldova_Gagauzia

7.71849726
Moldova_Soldanesti

8.16177064
Moldova_Balti

8.16896566
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

8.17663745
Moldova_Chisinau

8.29724051
Moldova_Singerei

8.30502258
Moldova_Straseni

</tbody>

2

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_2

6.42320792
Romania_Crisana

7.13353349
Romania_Transylvania

7.24817908
Montenegrin

7.26559013
Romania_Moldavia_South

7.29932874
Székely

7.52222706
Romania_Maramures

7.62494590
Hungarian_Transylvania

7.89408639
Romania_Oltenia

7.89967721
Romania_average

7.90597875
Serb_central

8.02763975
Bosniak_Sandzak

8.08485003
Serb_south

8.40596217
Serb

8.42371652
Romania_Banat

8.79461199
Bulgaria_Southwestern

8.87410841
Romania_Wallachia

8.96968227
Romania_Dobruja

8.97206777
Romania_Moldavia_North

9.05774806
Bulgaria_Northwestern

9.11311692
Serb_north

9.19163206
Croat_West

9.28963401
Csángó-Ceangău

9.34658226
Romania_Muntenia

9.44941797
Moldova_South

9.72074071
Croat_South

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_2

6.42320792
Romania_Crisana

7.13353349
Romania_Transilvania

7.26559013
Romania_Moldova_Sud

7.29932874
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

7.52222706
Romania_Maramures

7.62494590
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

7.89408639
Romania_Oltenia

7.89967721
Romania_average

8.42371652
Romania_Banat

8.96968227
Romania_Dobrogea

8.97206777
Romania_Moldova_Nord

9.28963401
Romania_Moldova_Csango

9.34658226
Romania_Muntenia

9.44941797
Moldova_Sud

9.79794366
Moldova_Centru

10.05281553
Moldova_average

10.31889529
Bulgarian

10.58641582
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

12.33106240
Aromanian

12.84429445
Moldova_Gagauzia

13.37830333
Moldova_Nord

15.63627833
Romania_Ukrainian

16.25709076
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

16.50753464
Ukrainian_Carpathian

28.34374181
Romania_Jewish

</tbody>

Target: Vaslui_2
Distance: 2.1603% / 2.16034871 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.9 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
32.3 Romania_Ukrainian
18.8 Romania_Jewish
7.0 Romania_Roma

-Saxon, Ukrainian, Jewish
Target: Vaslui_2
Distance: 5.7153% / 5.71527135 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.5 Romania_Crisana
42.5 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
7.0 Romania_Roma

If the Atlantic and Baltic values were flipped, those would have been regular results for the region.

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_2

6.74411595
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.79770550
Moldova_Cantemir

7.09718958
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

7.54727765
Moldova_Nisporeni

7.59713762
Moldova_Cahul

7.61579937
Moldova_Causeni

7.91948231
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

8.02872344
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

8.06339259
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

8.32096148
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

8.33171051
Moldova_Calarasi

9.25288063
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

9.28963401
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

9.32484316
Moldova_Ialoveni

9.46648826
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

9.84559800
Moldova_Balti

10.02957128
Moldova_Straseni

10.03690689
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

10.27930445
Moldova_Ungheni

10.52801976
Moldova_Hincesti

10.68073031
Moldova_Ocnita

10.83845469
Moldova_StefanVoda

11.08260348
Moldova_Cimislia

11.11701849
Moldova_Bulgarian

11.25606059
Moldova_Chisinau

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-12-2021, 12:11 PM

From Galati

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Galati_in_Romania.svg/250px-Galati_in_Romania.svg.png

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Kit
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

1
23.85
24.33
18.47
7.02
22.92
2.58
0
0
0
0
0.83
0
0

2
24.87
27.30
15.50
11.44
15.09
2.03
2.11
0
0
0.66
0.34
0.68
0

3
27.60
21.77
17.55
11.49
17.07
1.84
1.46
0
0.26
0.19
0.16
0.63
0

</tbody>
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Compared to others from Galati

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

30.11
20.59
20.39
10.51
13.94
2.83
0.03
0
1.49
0.03
0.08
0
0

22.52
27.45
17.38
8.35
20.94
2.51
0.42
0
0
0
0.28
0.15
0

25.66
20.54
19.38
7.46
19.11
3.14
0
1.73
1.97
0
0.31
0.71
0

25.16
26.55
17.24
7.34
18.67
1.22
0.10
0.55
2.79
0.26
0
0
0.11

22.46
22.60
20.88
9.02
18.60
2.24
0.54
1.14
1.35
0.46
0.27
0
0.42

22.08
24.92
18.64
9.44
20.04
0.67
2.40
0.51
0.33
0.62
0.34
0
0

22.69
29.15
17.61
8.40
16.84
0
2.13
2.38
0
0
0.61
0.19
0

23.90
23.89
13.30
9.33
23.57
3.03
0
0
0.57
1.89
0.52
0
0

21.56
26.67
17.52
13.26
15.33
2.80
0
0.23
0.61
1.01
0.85
0
0.17

23.39
25.98
18.41
11.38
15.27
1.44
1.47
0
0.40
0.95
1.06
0
0.26

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1

<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_1

5.02137113
Macednia_north

5.45568511
MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE

5.81123911
Bulgaria_Northwestern

6.03418284
Macedonia_south

6.04292148
Bosniak_Sandzak

6.05636029
Serb_south

6.11154645
Bulgaria_Southcentral

6.26241966
Bulgaria_average

6.41759301
Bulgaria_Southwestern

6.48717966
Romania_Wallachia

6.52135722
Romania_Muntenia

6.52924957
Bulgaria_Northcentral

6.55253386
Romania_Dobruja

6.57640479
Romania_Oltenia

6.63073148
Montenegrin

6.79549851
Moldova_South

6.83185187
Vlach(Aromanian)_average

6.89120454
Romania_Banat

7.07071425
Romania_average

7.20244403
Romania_Transylvania

7.33660003
Pomak_Bulgaria

7.60831782
Romania_Moldavia_South

7.84386384
Greek_Northern-Thrace

7.85387166
Romania_Crisana

7.86612993
Bulgaria_Northeastern

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_1

6.16051134
Bulgarian

6.52135722
Romania_Muntenia

6.55253386
Romania_Dobrogea

6.57640479
Romania_Oltenia

6.79549851
Moldova_Sud

6.83185187
Aromanian

6.89120454
Romania_Banat

7.07071425
Romania_average

7.20244403
Romania_Transilvania

7.60831782
Romania_Moldova_Sud

7.85387166
Romania_Crisana

8.65430529
Moldova_Gagauzia

8.93359950
Romania_Maramures

11.14258947
Romania_Moldova_Nord

11.27569953
Moldova_average

11.37454175
Moldova_Centru

12.49488295
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

13.28681677
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

14.34328414
Romania_Moldova_Csango

15.54013835
Moldova_Nord

17.36011809
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

19.13344977
Romania_Ukrainian

19.27100153
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

20.05848449
Ukrainian_Carpathian

22.97543036
Romania_Jewish

</tbody>

Target: Galati_1
Distance: 3.2164% / 3.21644706 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.7 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
38.6 Romania_Jewish
21.7 Romania_Crisana

-Jewish
Target: Galati_1
Distance: 5.1424% / 5.14236068 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.3 Aromanian
31.2 Romania_Maramures
5.5 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_1

5.58234718
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

6.25052798
Moldova_Cantemir

6.86359235
Moldova_Causeni

7.16607284
Moldova_StefanVoda

7.37427963
Moldova_Cahul

7.40647014
Moldova_Leova

7.91509318
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

7.92350301
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

8.01426229
Moldova_Gagauzia

8.41726797
Moldova_Bulgarian

8.90518950
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

9.23585405
Moldova_Ungheni

9.74069299
Moldova_Hincesti

9.95397910
Moldova_Nisporeni

10.04007470
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

10.09567729
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

10.28583492
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

10.71147982
Moldova_Cimislia

11.56745867
Moldova_Calarasi

11.76366440
Moldova_Ialoveni

12.19727019
Moldova_Soldanesti

12.38415116
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

12.47678244
Moldova_Balti

12.78450234
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

12.80585803
Moldova_Straseni

</tbody>

2

<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_2

3.40708086
Romania_Maramures

3.48133595
Romania_Moldavia_South

3.87602890
Romania_Transylvania

3.89485558
Romania_Crisana

4.01884312
Serb

4.19325649
Romania_average

4.23478453
Serb_central

4.26503224
Romania_Moldavia_North

4.27129957
Moldova_Centre

4.42151558
Moldova_average

4.72618239
Serb_north

4.77600251
Montenegrin

4.86391817
Romania_Banat

4.95096960
Romania_Oltenia

5.10324407
Serb_south

5.70996497
Romania_Wallachia

5.86092996
Romania_Dobruja

5.88662892
Moldova_South

5.92286248
Bulgaria_Northwestern

5.93150065
Székely

5.95305804
Bosniak_Sandzak

6.08502260
Bulgaria_Southwestern

6.12017974
Bosniak

6.15043901
Romania_Muntenia

6.17749949
Croat_South

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_2

3.40708086
Romania_Maramures

3.48133595
Romania_Moldova_Sud

3.87602890
Romania_Transilvania

3.89485558
Romania_Crisana

4.19325649
Romania_average

4.26503224
Romania_Moldova_Nord

4.27129957
Moldova_Centru

4.42151558
Moldova_average

4.86391817
Romania_Banat

4.95096960
Romania_Oltenia

5.86092996
Romania_Dobrogea

5.88662892
Moldova_Sud

5.93150065
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

6.15043901
Romania_Muntenia

6.49357375
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

6.72404640
Romania_Moldova_Csango

7.50913444
Bulgarian

8.33865097
Moldova_Nord

9.69124347
Moldova_Gagauzia

11.66820466
Aromanian

13.19164508
Romania_Ukrainian

13.26385314
Ukrainian_Carpathian

13.55251637
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

14.23164432
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

26.29640660
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Galati_2
Distance: 2.1329% / 2.13292012 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.4 Moldova_Centru
25.5 Romania_Transilvania
12.5 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
5.6 Romania_Roma

-Saxon, Roma
Target: Galati_2
Distance: 2.8884% / 2.88839303 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.7 Moldova_Centru
28.3 Romania_Transilvania
28.0 Romania_Crisana

-Crisana
Target: Galati_2
Distance: 3.0516% / 3.05164403 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.7 Romania_Moldova_Sud
32.0 Moldova_Centru
4.3 Romania_Moldova_Nord

<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_2

2.82370324
Moldova_Calarasi

3.00396405
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

3.41262362
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

3.41609426
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

3.63214812
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

3.71887080
Moldova_Ialoveni

4.38094739
Moldova_Causeni

4.43427559
Moldova_Ungheni

4.62319154
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

4.71423377
Moldova_Straseni

4.84960823
Moldova_Nisporeni

4.86006173
Moldova_Cahul

5.36337580
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

5.48136844
Moldova_Cimislia

5.58821080
Moldova_Balti

5.63643504
Moldova_Chisinau

5.79477351
Moldova_Telenesti

5.86504049
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

5.90152523
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

5.95616487
Moldova_Hincesti

6.41270614
Moldova_Singerei

6.49562930
Moldova_Soldanesti

6.62687709
Moldova_Orhei

6.67473595
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

6.72404640
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

</tbody>

3

<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_3

5.17901535
Montenegrin

5.21376064
Bosniak_Sandzak

5.52046194
Romania_Oltenia

5.62251723
Romania_Crisana

5.69112467
Bulgaria_Southwestern

5.69315378
Romania_Transylvania

6.31434874
Romania_average

6.40069527
Romania_Wallachia

6.43619453
Bulgaria_Northeastern

6.45398327
Romania_Banat

6.55860503
Romania_Moldavia_South

6.72353330
Romania_Dobruja

6.78303030
Romania_Muntenia

6.87846640
Bulgaria_average

7.16102283
Macednia_north

7.30936386
Moldova_South

7.35963994
MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE

7.43781554
Serb_south

7.53098267
Bulgaria_Northcentral

7.56044972
Bulgaria_Southcentral

7.64512263
Bulgaria_Northwestern

7.78668495
Macedonia_south

7.99309702
Romania_Maramures

8.64986705
Serb_central

8.74159596
Bulgaria_Southeastern

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_3

5.52046194
Romania_Oltenia

5.62251723
Romania_Crisana

5.69315378
Romania_Transilvania

6.31434874
Romania_average

6.45398327
Romania_Banat

6.55860503
Romania_Moldova_Sud

6.72353330
Romania_Dobrogea

6.78303030
Romania_Muntenia

7.19109866
Bulgarian

7.30936386
Moldova_Sud

7.99309702
Romania_Maramures

8.88953317
Aromanian

9.11316630
Moldova_Gagauzia

9.23481998
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

9.63294867
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

10.02784623
Romania_Moldova_Nord

10.46131923
Moldova_Centru

10.48055342
Moldova_average

10.72553961
Romania_Moldova_Csango

11.90328946
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

14.54044360
Moldova_Nord

18.77615243
Romania_Ukrainian

19.02150362
Ukrainian_Carpathian

19.14939947
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

26.15408955
Romania_Jewish

</tbody>

Target: Galati_3
Distance: 1.4862% / 1.48618029 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.8 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
38.1 Moldova_Gagauzia
14.2 Aromanian
3.9 Romania_Roma

-Saxon, Gagauz, Hungarian
Target: Galati_3
Distance: 4.5245% / 4.52453760 | ADC: 0.25x RC
87.6 Romania_Crisana
9.6 Romania_Jewish
2.8 Romania_Roma

<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_3

5.12540730
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

5.60420378
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

6.12447549
Moldova_Cahul

6.79315096
Moldova_Causeni

6.82960467
Moldova_Cantemir

6.87268506
Moldova_Bulgarian

6.88111910
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

7.04506920
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

7.07963982
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

8.16742309
Moldova_StefanVoda

8.53584794
Moldova_Calarasi

8.88684984
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

8.94590409
Moldova_Ungheni

9.20353736
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

9.47330988
Moldova_Gagauzia

9.52197984
Moldova_Nisporeni

9.92331598
Moldova_Ialoveni

10.43283279
Moldova_Cimislia

10.52042775
Moldova_Straseni

10.62932265
Moldova_Hincesti

10.72553961
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

11.38717700
Moldova_Leova

11.43919140
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

11.49627331
Moldova_Balti

11.57869595
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

</tbody>

Ion Basescul

02-12-2021, 12:53 PM

From Vrancea

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c2/Vrancea_in_Romania.svg/250px-Vrancea_in_Romania.svg.png

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Kit
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

1
20.49
27.31
18.35
12.81
15.51
2.45
0
0.65
0
1.70
0.72
0
0

2
23.90
21.67
17.41
12.18
16.61
3.73
1.54
0
1.68
1.29
0
0
0

3
22.29
25.07
16.58
10.55
20.04
2.18
1.46
0
0.94
0.61
0.24
0
0

4
22.20
26.12
19.26
10.81
14.88
2.80
1.20
1.62
0.13
0
0.98
0
0

</tbody>
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Compared to others from Vrancea
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<tbody>
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

22.67
23.88
15.52
12.44
17.04
3.22
1.84
1.26
1.59
0.16
0.39
0
0

23.92
23.07
20.63
9.31
15.68
1.32
2.74
1.52
0.53
1.01
0
0.15
0.13

20.65
26.70
17.19
10.49
19.25
2.39
0.44
0.37
0.84
1.01
0.08
0.59
0

24.82
25.71
16.34
11.11
14.35
0.58
0.28
0
4.87
0.86
0.23
0.28
0.57

24.25
24.30
18.66
11.37
17.11
0.63
1.57
0
1.23
0.61
0.27
0
0

</tbody>

1

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_1

4.25484430
Moldova_South

4.66186658
Romania_Banat

4.80654762
Romania_average

5.00837299
Romania_Dobruja

5.02853856
Romania_Wallachia

5.10766091
Bulgaria_Northwestern

5.11556448
Romania_Muntenia

5.23515043
Romania_Oltenia

5.31746180
Romania_Moldavia_South

5.37743433
Pomak_Bulgaria

5.46350620
Romania_Transylvania

5.58320696
Bulgaria_Southwestern

5.67189563
Bulgaria_average

5.71589013
Serb_south

5.74870420
Bulgaria_Northcentral

5.79398826
Montenegrin

5.95827995
Romania_Maramures

5.98548244
Bosniak_Sandzak

6.07327753
Moldova_average

6.35740513
Serb

6.44123435
Bulgaria_Southcentral

6.49435909
Moldova_Centre

6.57002283
Romania_Crisana

6.83314715
Bulgaria_Northeastern

6.89078370
Serb_central

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_1

4.25484430
Moldova_Sud

4.66186658
Romania_Banat

4.80654762
Romania_average

5.00837299
Romania_Dobrogea

5.11556448
Romania_Muntenia

5.23515043
Romania_Oltenia

5.31746180
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.46350620
Romania_Transilvania

5.95827995
Romania_Maramures

6.02332134
Bulgarian

6.07327753
Moldova_average

6.49435909
Moldova_Centru

6.57002283
Romania_Crisana

7.19518589
Moldova_Gagauzia

7.25472260
Romania_Moldova_Nord

9.95676654
Moldova_Nord

10.17666448
Aromanian

10.32003876
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

10.44565460
Romania_Moldova_Csango

11.01419993
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

15.82732763
Ukrainian_Carpathian

15.90587313
Romania_Ukrainian

16.00112496
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

18.46836214
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

25.53287880
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Vrancea_1
Distance: 3.2474% / 3.24744726 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.2 Moldova_Gagauzia
37.2 Moldova_Nord
11.6 Moldova_Sud

-Gagauz
Target: Vrancea_1
Distance: 3.5989% / 3.59885694 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.4 Moldova_Sud
19.0 Moldova_Nord
1.6 Crimean_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_1

3.72108855
Moldova_Ungheni

4.45851993
Moldova_Hincesti

4.45923760
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

4.63618378
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

5.16113360
Moldova_StefanVoda

5.37128476
Moldova_Cahul

5.42391925
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

5.88087579
Moldova_Cimislia

6.31507720
Moldova_Causeni

6.32178772
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

6.44557988
Moldova_Ialoveni

6.51370094
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

6.97271109
Moldova_Straseni

7.03948862
Moldova_Calarasi

7.08369254
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

7.35002721
Moldova_Chisinau

7.37203500
Moldova_Gagauzia

7.80028846
Moldova_Singerei

7.81397466
Moldova_Cantemir

7.91562379
Moldova_Soldanesti

7.94853446
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

8.32451200
Moldova_Telenesti

8.78600023
Moldova_Balti

8.82601835
Moldova_Nisporeni

8.85735288
Moldova_Leova

</tbody>

2

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_2

4.07136341
Bulgaria_Southwestern

4.28822807
Bulgaria_Northeastern

4.69821243
Romania_Wallachia

4.74322675
Romania_Oltenia

4.80853408
Romania_Muntenia

4.86059667
Romania_Dobruja

4.91613669
Bulgaria_average

4.95552217
Bosniak_Sandzak

4.99062120
Montenegrin

5.03211685
Romania_Banat

5.28706913
Moldova_South

5.32010338
Romania_average

5.35637004
Romania_Transylvania

5.42188159
Bulgaria_Northcentral

5.53975631
Bulgaria_Southcentral

6.05806900
Romania_Moldavia_South

6.08977832
MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE

6.09893433
Bulgaria_Southeastern

6.16330658
Macednia_north

6.26944974
Bulgaria_Northwestern

6.36207513
Romania_Crisana

6.43523989
Macedonia_south

6.49854599
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

6.91473788
Serb_south

7.07348570
Pomak_Bulgaria

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_2

4.74322675
Romania_Oltenia

4.80853408
Romania_Muntenia

4.86059667
Romania_Dobrogea

5.03211685
Romania_Banat

5.28706913
Moldova_Sud

5.32010338
Romania_average

5.35637004
Romania_Transilvania

5.54508792
Bulgarian

6.05806900
Romania_Moldova_Sud

6.36207513
Romania_Crisana

6.49854599
Moldova_Gagauzia

7.23182550
Aromanian

7.85553945
Romania_Maramures

9.70354059
Moldova_average

9.77375568
Moldova_Centru

9.84061990
Romania_Moldova_Nord

10.32983059
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

10.88191160
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

11.32770497
Romania_Moldova_Csango

14.14601711
Moldova_Nord

15.31260265
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

19.24322218
Romania_Ukrainian

19.34899222
Ukrainian_Carpathian

19.53241409
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

24.91545103
Crimean_Tatar

</tbody>

Target: Vrancea_2
Distance: 2.4558% / 2.45578581 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.6 Moldova_Gagauzia
28.9 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
11.6 Aromanian
5.9 Crimean_Tatar
4.0 Romania_Roma

-GagauzTarget: Vrancea_2
Distance: 2.8525% / 2.85251607 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.9 Romania_Muntenia
22.3 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
6.1 Crimean_Tatar
5.6 Romania_Jewish
5.1 Romania_Roma

-Saxon, Hungarians
Target: Vrancea_2
Distance: 3.9310% / 3.93101176 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.1 Romania_Transilvania
18.6 Romania_Oltenia
9.9 Romania_Jewish
7.4 Crimean_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_2

3.99582282
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

4.61732607
Moldova_Bulgarian

4.98101395
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

5.37413249
Moldova_Cahul

5.44796292
Moldova_StefanVoda

6.37272312
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

6.42024143
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

6.88397414
Moldova_Gagauzia

6.94272281
Moldova_Cantemir

7.10988045
Moldova_Causeni

7.27782248
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

7.41572653
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

7.61763087
Moldova_Ungheni

8.48620056
Moldova_Calarasi

8.84933896
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

9.07623821
Moldova_Cimislia

9.10190090
Moldova_Hincesti

9.38470564
Moldova_Ialoveni

9.88583330
Moldova_Straseni

10.15862195
Moldova_Nisporeni

10.57460638
Moldova_Leova

11.23549287
Moldova_Chisinau

11.26981366
Moldova_Telenesti

11.32770497
Romania_Moldavia_Csango

11.46153567
Moldova_Balti

</tbody>

3

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_3

2.03487100
Romania_Muntenia

2.16746396
Bulgaria_Northcentral

2.19054788
Romania_Wallachia

2.22892351
Bulgaria_Northwestern

2.29484204
Romania_Dobruja

2.30501627
Bulgaria_average

2.61654352
Bulgaria_Southwestern

2.76108674
Bulgaria_Southcentral

2.83795701
Moldova_South

2.87657783
Romania_Banat

3.14768169
Romania_Oltenia

3.27777363
Romania_average

3.45353442
Serb_south

3.54985915
Pomak_Bulgaria

3.92592664
Bosniak_Sandzak

4.03157537
Romania_Transylvania

4.15583927
Montenegrin

4.28359662
Bulgaria_Northeastern

4.35913982
Romania_Moldavia_South

4.53459237
Macednia_north

4.76487146
Pomak_Greece

4.91317616
MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE

5.20326820
Moldova_South_Gagauzia

5.50878389
Romania_Crisana

5.65191118
Bulgaria_Southeastern

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_3

2.03487100
Romania_Muntenia

2.29484204
Romania_Dobrogea

2.72226009
Bulgarian

2.83795701
Moldova_Sud

2.87657783
Romania_Banat

3.14768169
Romania_Oltenia

3.27777363
Romania_average

4.03157537
Romania_Transilvania

4.35913982
Romania_Moldova_Sud

5.20326820
Moldova_Gagauzia

5.50878389
Romania_Crisana

6.14756863
Romania_Maramures

6.35240112
Aromanian

7.75516602
Moldova_average

7.80977593
Moldova_Centru

8.06440946
Romania_Moldova_Nord

10.31907457
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely

11.18435067
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian

11.73308144
Romania_Moldova_Csango

12.49192939
Moldova_Nord

17.33359455
Romania_Ukrainian

17.44500788
Romania_Transilvania_Saxon

17.52167515
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

17.81437060
Ukrainian_Carpathian

24.85554264
Romania_Jewish

</tbody>

Target: Vrancea_3
Distance: 1.0095% / 1.00949367 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.9 Romania_Muntenia
17.1 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
13.7 Romania_Jewish
8.2 Romania_Moldova_Nord
2.1 Romania_Roma

-IVTarget: Vrancea_3
Distance: 1.1694% / 1.16943287 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.4 Romania_Moldova_Nord
41.5 Romania_Muntenia
13.4 Romania_Jewish
1.7 Romania_Roma

-Jewish
Target: Vrancea_3
Distance: 1.9634% / 1.96339955 | ADC: 0.25x RC
92.2 Romania_Muntenia
6.3 Romania_Moldova_Nord
1.5 Romania_Roma

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_3

3.27820073
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

3.45528581
Moldova_StefanVoda

3.71716290
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

4.21887426
Moldova_Causeni

4.46124422
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

4.80913714
Moldova_Cahul

4.90357013
Moldova_Ungheni

4.90428384
Moldova_Gagauzia

5.03499752
Moldova_Leova

5.87964285
Moldova_Bulgarian

5.90002542
Moldova_Cantemir

5.99857483
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

6.03045604
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.49251877
Moldova_Cimislia

6.72589028
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

6.85994898
Moldova_Hincesti

7.01025677
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

7.61801155
Moldova_Nisporeni

8.05132908
Moldova_Calarasi

8.28638643
Moldova_Ialoveni

9.28310293
Moldova_Chisinau

9.38227051
Moldova_Straseni

9.48402868
Moldova_Soldanesti

9.56318462
Moldova_Balti

9.75287650
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani

</tbody>

4

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_4

3.80619232
Romania_Banat

3.84855817
Romania_average

4.00261165
Romania_Oltenia

4.00976309
Moldova_South

4.08342993
Romania_Transylvania

4.14404392
Romania_Moldavia_South

4.28499708
Montenegrin

4.48710374
Romania_Dobruja

4.56270753
Romania_Wallachia

4.57665817
Romania_Maramures

4.59794519
Bosniak_Sandzak

4.76454615
Romania_Crisana

4.87088288
Bulgaria_Northwestern

4.92845818
Serb_south

4.96182426
Bulgaria_Southwestern

4.97142837
Romania_Muntenia

5.46820812
Serb

5.59472073
Bulgaria_average

5.80429152
Serb_central

6.05612913
Bulgaria_Northcentral

6.18211938
Moldova_average

6.45461076
Bulgaria_Southcentral

6.46576368
Pomak_Bulgaria

6.49809203
Moldova_Centre

6.65615505
Serb_north

</tbody>

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_4

3.80619232
Romania_Banat

3.84855817
Romania_average

4.00261165
Romania_Oltenia

4.00976309
Moldova_South

4.08342993
Romania_Transylvania

4.14404392
Romania_Moldavia_South

4.28499708
Montenegrin

4.48710374
Romania_Dobruja

4.56270753
Romania_Wallachia

4.57665817
Romania_Maramures

4.59794519
Bosniak_Sandzak

4.76454615
Romania_Crisana

4.87088288
Bulgaria_Northwestern

4.92845818
Serb_south

4.96182426
Bulgaria_Southwestern

4.97142837
Romania_Muntenia

5.46820812
Serb

5.59472073
Bulgaria_average

5.80429152
Serb_central

6.05612913
Bulgaria_Northcentral

6.18211938
Moldova_average

6.45461076
Bulgaria_Southcentral

6.46576368
Pomak_Bulgaria

6.49809203
Moldova_Centre

6.65615505
Serb_north

</tbody>

Target: Vrancea_4
Distance: 3.2192% / 3.21918178 | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.6 Moldova_Sud
18.4 Romania_Moldova_Csango
10.8 Romania_Maramures
2.2 Romania_Roma

-Csango
Target: Vrancea_4
Distance: 3.2987% / 3.29872085 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.0 Moldova_Sud
46.0 Romania_Maramures
2.0 Romania_Roma
1.0 Crimean_Tatar

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_4

3.41820128
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea

3.50445431
Moldova_Cahul

3.78833737
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau

4.18602437
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt

4.41498584
Moldova_Hincesti

4.72027542
Moldova_Ungheni

4.91098768
Romania_Moldavia_Galati

5.29219236
Moldova_Cantemir

5.46618697
Moldova_StefanVoda

5.58540061
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi

5.92326768
Moldova_Causeni

5.97973244
Moldova_Ialoveni

6.02959368
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

6.33689987
Moldova_Calarasi

6.38379198
Moldova_Straseni

6.61765820
Moldova_Cimislia

6.93008658
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma

7.69043562
Moldova_Chisinau

7.83248364
Moldova_Singerei

8.00157484
Moldova_Soldanesti

8.08791691
Moldova_Gagauzia

8.19153832
Moldova_Nisporeni

8.41999406
Moldova_Balti

8.45206484
Moldova_Telenesti

8.59208939
Moldova_Bulgarian

</tbody>

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Ion Basescul

02-12-2021, 08:32 PM

I am changing the way in which I will present the data for Republic of Moldova.
Since we have 32 districts plus 2 municipalities (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Moldova_harta_administrativa.png/800px-Moldova_harta_administrativa.png?1613154866758) (Chisinau and Balti) for the purpose of sample categorisation, I figured that it would take a long time until I get a decent number of samples for each, which I define as at least 10.
Thus in light of this, I decided to look at them more broadly. To do this, I rolled back to the administrative division from 1998-2003, where the country was divided in 9 counties plus 2 municipalities (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_Moldova).

At some point in the future though, when we will have significantly more samples for each district, I don't see why we wouldn't want to return to the district representation.

Here is a comparison.

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<tbody>
Name
Geography
Location/Ethnicity
Number of Samples
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

Moldova_Ocnita
North
Ocnita
4
25.78
32.19
16.94
7.92
12.19
1.42
0.53
1.08
0.54
0.86
0.29
0.25
0.02

Moldova_Briceni
North
Briceni
3
24.32
35.23
14.55
9.13
12.19
1.05
0.31
0.44
1.52
0.91
0.13
0.11
0.12

Moldova_Edinet
North
Edinet
2
22.29
34.67
15.33
10.90
11.39
2.05
0.00
0.00
2.39
0.28
0.52
0.06
0.16

Moldova_Donduseni
North
Donduseni
1
32.06
32.68
10.89
4.25
14.28
2.99
1.31
0.00
0.75
0.73
0.00
0.06
0.00

Moldova_Floresti
North
Floresti
1
24.07
36.26
9.74
8.78
16.00
1.82
0.00
2.47
0.19
0.54
0.12
0.00
0.00

Moldova_Soldanesti
North
Soldanesti
2
23.29
32.51
15.59
9.16
14.96
0.86
0.40
1.02
0.78
0.09
0.65
0.00
0.71

Moldova_Glodeni
North
Glodeni
2
20.30
35.10
15.60
11.50
10.56
1.69
0.73
0.72
1.99
1.24
0.51
0.00
0.06

Moldova_Balti
North
Balti
29
24.77
31.58
14.33
8.86
14.24
1.49
1.34
0.48
1.64
0.43
0.38
0.20
0.25

Moldova_Singerei
North
Singerei
4
23.19
32.32
15.61
9.20
13.75
1.56
0.52
0.78
1.42
0.45
0.84
0.00
0.38

Moldova_Falesti
North
Falesti
4
24.00
32.99
14.30
9.03
13.88
2.16
0.42
1.22
1.24
0.13
0.41
0.04
0.21

Moldova_Rezina
Centre
Rezina
1
28.97
34.84
12.39
7.67
12.05
0.73
0.44
0.00
1.37
0.00
0.51
0.71
0.34

Moldova_Telenesti
Centre
Telenesti
2
24.67
31.23
14.40
11.53
11.98
2.23
0.68
0.43
2.10
0.46
0.23
0.00
0.10

Moldova_Orhei
Centre
Orhei
1
24.14
32.44
14.55
11.75
12.15
0.00
1.62
0.00
1.54
0.96
0.00
0.33
0.51

Moldova_Ungheni
Centre
Ungheni
5
21.83
28.27
16.35
11.73
16.92
1.49
0.43
0.73
0.96
0.33
0.69
0.00
0.25

Moldova_Calarasi
Centre
Calarasi
1
25.37
28.72
15.23
10.56
13.75
1.85
1.45
0.00
1.38
0.70
0.74
0.00
0.26

Moldova_Nisporeni
Centre
Nisporeni
1
25.81
29.74
13.91
8.57
16.77
1.27
1.19
0.95
0.49
0.65
0.39
0.00
0.25

Moldova_Straseni
Centre
Straseni
4
24.11
30.19
16.45
10.05
12.45
2.29
1.65
0.20
1.62
0.86
0.13
0.00
0.00

Moldova_Chisinau
Centre
Chisinau
25
22.84
31.74
15.01
9.02
14.72
1.88
1.29
0.67
1.75
0.35
0.49
0.18
0.04

Moldova_Ialoveni
Centre
Ialoveni
5
23.98
29.91
15.51
10.16
13.69
2.38
1.25
0.67
0.97
0.46
0.53
0.21
0.28

Moldova_AneniiNoi
Centre
Anenii Noi
1
22.19
35.55
15.80
5.01
14.63
1.08
2.73
0.00
1.21
0.49
0.57
0.00
0.75

Moldova_Hincesti
Centre
Hincesti
2
21.01
29.33
18.12
9.05
15.59
2.89
0.98
0.83
0.12
1.41
0.55
0.13
0.00

Moldova_Leova
South
Leova
1
20.92
28.56
14.80
9.67
22.16
0.86
1.64
0.00
0.64
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.75

Moldova_Cimislia
South
Cimislia
1
21.75
29.53
15.63
11.25
16.39
0.98
1.08
0.00
3.24
0.00
0.15
0.00
0.00

Moldova_Causeni
South
Causeni
1
24.58
26.99
16.65
9.73
18.18
0.81
0.65
0.00
0.00
1.67
0.67
0.00
0.08

Moldova_StefanVoda
South
Stefan Voda
10
20.55
24.45
18.11
11.87
19.12
3.47
0.24
0.47
0.93
0.21
0.27
0.10
0.23

Moldova_Cantemir
South
Cantemir
2
24.52
25.09
19.13
7.44
17.35
2.21
0.09
1.91
1.45
0.00
0.33
0.51
0.00

Moldova_Cahul
South
Cahul
6
23.96
25.73
18.64
9.60
16.40
2.23
0.42
0.44
1.37
0.78
0.35
0.06
0.02

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Name
Geography
Location/Ethnicity
Number of Samples
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

Moldova_Edinet
North
Briceni, Ocnita, Edinet, Donduseni
10
25.27
33.65
15.29
8.51
12.24
1.59
0.43
0.57
1.22
0.75
0.26
0.15
0.07

Moldova_Soroca
North
Soroca, Drochia, Floresti, Soldanesti
3
23.55
33.76
13.64
9.03
15.30
1.18
0.27
1.50
0.58
0.24
0.47
0.00
0.47

Moldova_Balti
North
Riscani, Glodeni, Falesti, Singerei
10
22.93
33.14
15.08
9.59
13.16
1.83
0.52
0.94
1.46
0.48
0.60
0.01
0.25

Moldova_Balti_city
North
Balti
29
24.77
31.58
14.33
8.86
14.24
1.49
1.34
0.48
1.64
0.43
0.38
0.20
0.25

Moldova_Orhei
Centre
Orhei, Telenesti, Rezina
4
25.61
32.43
13.94
10.62
12.04
1.30
0.85
0.21
1.78
0.47
0.24
0.26
0.26

Moldova_Ungheni
Centre
Ungheni, Calarasi, Nisporeni
7
22.90
28.55
15.84
11.11
16.45
1.51
0.68
0.66
0.96
0.43
0.66
0.00
0.25

Moldova_Chisinau
Centre
Ialoveni, Straseni, Criuleni, Anenii Noi
10
23.85
30.59
15.91
9.60
13.29
2.21
1.56
0.42
1.26
0.62
0.37
0.10
0.21

Moldova_Chisinau_city
Centre
Chisinau
25
22.84
31.74
15.01
9.02
14.72
1.88
1.29
0.67
1.75
0.35
0.49
0.18
0.04

Moldova_Lapusna
Centre
Hincesti, Leova, Cimislia, Basarabeasca
4
21.17
29.19
16.67
9.75
17.43
1.90
1.17
0.41
1.03
0.70
0.31
0.06
0.19

Moldova_Tighina
South
Causeni, Stefan Voda
11
20.91
24.68
17.98
11.68
19.03
3.23
0.27
0.43
0.84
0.34
0.31
0.09
0.22

Moldova_Cahul
South
Cahul, Cantemir
9
23.43
25.71
18.59
9.44
16.93
2.31
0.38
0.75
1.39
0.61
0.30
0.16
0.01

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