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Big Red
08-01-2020, 08:19 PM
Hi everyone!
I've lurked on The Apricity on and off for a couple years now; I never decided to make an account, until today.
So this post will serve as a sort of introduction and I apologize in advance that my first post is in the form of a request.

Both my paternal and maternal lineage comes from the Turkish minority in Bulgaria.
My mother's side has more "lighter" features while my father, darker ones though he tells me his maternal grandmother had green eyes, this I cannot confirm. However, both my mother and father have brown hair and brown eyes, I am no different.
Being from the Balkans, naturally I would be a conglomeration of different ethnic groups.
I've been trying to figure out what "exactly" I am for a couple years now, and I always receive mixed signals from various genetic mapping tools. Here I will list some of them:

Ancestry
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I am surprised that there is no connection to either Greek or Turkish genetic communities.
As well as the low amount of Mongol/Central Asian DNA. People agree that my eyes look "Asiatic" [the most in my family] and I am inclined to agree. You can be the judge, however I won't be posting my whole face due to to privacy reasons.
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[B]MorleyDNA.com Y-SNP Terminal Subclade Predictor

What was also surprising to me to me was that my Y DNA is most likely I2a1b3, again this is a predictor so I can't say on the accuracy, but my paternal heritage never struck me as proto european. I was expecting J2 from his side.

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So if anyone can confirm that I2 is indeed my haplogroup that will be much appreciated.

Eurogenes K36:
Amerindian [I]0.42
Arabian 0.56
Armenian 4.06
Basque 1.19
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.56
East_African -
East_Asian 2.76
East_Balkan 6.62
East_Central_Asian 0.86
East_Central_Euro 7.61
East_Med 4.12
Eastern_Euro 7.51
Fennoscandian 3.11
French 6.07
Iberian 3.31
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 6.60
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 12.36
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.60
North_Caucasian 7.72
North_Sea 1.10
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.28
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 2.34
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 2.84
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.85
West_African -
West_Caucasian 4.03
West_Med 5.54

Similarity rate with different populations

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Eurogenes K15:
North_Sea [I]11.80
Atlantic 9.45
Baltic 11.73
Eastern_Euro 10.13
West_Med 11.89
West_Asian 16.38
East_Med 15.00
Red_Sea 2.97
South_Asian 1.26
Southeast_Asian 2.59
Siberian 3.81 Pct
Amerindian 1.36
Oceanian 0.61
Northeast_African 1.01
Sub-Saharan -


K15 Map Graph
The map grapher places me to a point [766,349] where I have nothing in common with anybody! Pointing that I am either extremely mixed or some sort of missing link. This comes off as an even greater surprise to me.
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Single Population Sharing:

Bulgarian 9.64
Romanian 10.08
Greek_Thessaly 11.31
Greek 12.33
Serbian 13.15
Ashkenazi 13.92
Central_Greek 14.75
Italian_Abruzzo 15.05
Moldavian 15.46
East_Sicilian 15.79
Tuscan 16.77
West_Sicilian 17.72
South_Italian 18.34
Croatian 18.57
Hungarian 19.17
North_Italian 19.55
Austrian 19.75
Turkish 20.75
Turkmen 21.65
Nogay 21.75


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

71.2% Bulgarian + 28.8% Nogay @ 4.34
57.8% Moldavian + 42.2% Turkish @ 4.66
67.4% Greek_Thessaly + 32.6% Nogay @ 4.74
60.8% Central_Greek + 39.2% Tatar @ 4.85
70.6% Romanian + 29.4% Turkmen @ 4.93
71.9% Bulgarian + 28.1% Turkmen @ 5.02
70.8% Romanian + 29.2% Nogay @ 5.08
76.1% Bulgarian + 23.9% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.1
77.5% Bulgarian + 22.5% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.19
76.4% Bulgarian + 23.6% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 5.38
59.2% East_Sicilian + 40.8% Tatar @ 5.42
79.8% Bulgarian + 20.2% Afghan_Hazara @ 5.45
79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Uzbeki @ 5.66
53% Croatian + 47% Turkish @ 5.68
54.3% Turkish + 45.7% Ukrainian @ 5.69
82.1% Bulgarian + 17.9% Hazara @ 5.7
55.1% South_Italian + 44.9% Tatar @ 5.71
68.8% Greek_Thessaly + 31.2% Tatar @ 5.77
75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Tadjik @ 5.81
75.9% Romanian + 24.1% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.81




My True Ancestry
I spent 25 dollars for the "Knight" level, not sure if I regret it or not. I like history, and wanted to see if I can find something interesting from ancient populations. Alas, I am not sure if I could.

My closest modern populations are as follows:

1. Macedonian (10.23)
2. Bulgarian (10.59)
3. Romanian (11.18)
4. Greek_Thessaly (12.60)
5. Kosovar (13.07)
6. Albanian_Tosk (13.35)
7. Bosnian (13.45)
8. Greek (13.84)
The PCA cluster matches the K15 map, if you were to ask me
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[A bit too close to "gypsy" for my liking!]
Here it is again in 3D:

https://mytrueancestry.com/maps/wbl1lsjcyg_m_pca.mp4

What came as a surprise to me was my closest ancient population. I was expecting maybe Byzantines, or Ottomans, but Seleucids? Maybe, but other users get much closer matches to empires. My closest is 12.82 so perhaps I simply am mixed.
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Yet my ancient PCA is closest to "Hellenic Ottoman"
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But on a 3D graph it again, looks very different

https://mytrueancestry.com/maps/wbl1lsjcyg_s_pca.mp4



I don't know what to make of all this information, and I am left more confused now than before I came into this all.
Am I a Bulgarian, a Turk, something in between, or a brand new mystery meat all together?
Thank you all for the help! :)

Kaspias
08-01-2020, 08:27 PM
Hoşgeldin. Kırcaali'den misin? Sonuçların tipik Balkan Türkü gibi gözüküyor. Eurogenes K13 ve Dodecad K12b paylaşabilir misin?

Big Red
08-01-2020, 08:37 PM
Hoşbulduk! Yes from the Kardzhali province for both of my parents.
I saw your thread here:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?291709-Balkan-Turks-PCA-Clustering-4-Oracle-East-Eurasian-Admixture-and-Y-DNA&highlight=bulgar+turk
I was not sure whether to post there or not!

Eurogenes K13
North_Atlantic 16.46
Baltic 18.44
West_Med 15.90
West_Asian 18.00
East_Med 16.14
Red_Sea 3.15
South_Asian 1.34
East_Asian 2.85
Siberian 4.52 Pct
Amerindian 1.62
Oceanian 0.69
Northeast_African 0.88
Sub-Saharan -


Dodecad K12b
Gedrosia 8.86
Siberian 2.49
Northwest_African 1.51
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 21.21
North_European 26.92
South_Asian 0.18
East_African 0.23
Southwest_Asian 7.65
East_Asian 5.67
Caucasus 25.28



Teşekkür Kaspias!

Rgvgjhvv
08-01-2020, 08:44 PM
Can you post your MDLP K23b?

Sora
08-01-2020, 08:51 PM
Nice results! :o

Welcome, by the way :)

Big Red
08-01-2020, 08:52 PM
Here it is:
MDLP K23b

Amerindian 0.35
Ancestral_Altaic 3.13
South_Central_Asian 6.50
Arctic 0.82 Pct
South_Indian 0.77
Australoid 0.48
Austronesian 0.88
Caucasian 32.35
Archaic_Human 0.18
East_African 0.74
East_Siberian 1.68
European_Early_Farmers 14.81
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian 0.07
Archaic_African 0.05
Near_East 5.55
North_African 2.93
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy -
South_East_Asian 0.51
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic 4.51
European_Hunters_Gatherers 23.69


Thank you for the warm welcome Sora!

Rgvgjhvv
08-01-2020, 10:22 PM
Here it is:
MDLP K23b

Amerindian 0.35
Ancestral_Altaic 3.13
South_Central_Asian 6.50
Arctic 0.82 Pct
South_Indian 0.77
Australoid 0.48
Austronesian 0.88
Caucasian 32.35
Archaic_Human 0.18
East_African 0.74
East_Siberian 1.68
European_Early_Farmers 14.81
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian 0.07
Archaic_African 0.05
Near_East 5.55
North_African 2.93
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy -
South_East_Asian 0.51
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic 4.51
European_Hunters_Gatherers 23.69



Nice. And finally, can you post your MDLP World?

Bender1999
08-01-2020, 10:29 PM
Hosgeldin kardes,

your results are nice, and you have at least 20% Turkic Dna, that is not low but shows you are a descendant of great people.
Tebrik ederim!

Big Red
08-01-2020, 10:46 PM
Nice. And finally, can you post your MDLP World?

Finally:

MDLP World

Caucaus_Parsia 20.65
Middle_East 14.61
Indian 0.53
South_and_West_European 32.09
Melanesian 0.65
Sub_Saharian 0.18
North_and_East_European 23.06
Arctic_Amerind 0.94
East_Asian 3.75
Paleo_African -
Mesoamerican 0.54
North_Asian 2.99


So in the end, what does this all mean, and how should I fill out Y-DNA, Meta-Ethnicty, ancestry etc?
Another question, how do you get those little logos you have on top of your profile pictures? i.e Helenic, Turkic etc

Thanks again


Hosgeldin kardes,

your results are nice, and you have at least 20% Turkic Dna, that is not low but shows you are a descendant of great people.
Tebrik ederim!

Hoşbulduk Bender, thank you for the welcome :)

Kaspias
08-01-2020, 11:01 PM
Hoşbulduk! Yes from the Kardzhali province for both of my parents.
I saw your thread here:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?291709-Balkan-Turks-PCA-Clustering-4-Oracle-East-Eurasian-Admixture-and-Y-DNA&highlight=bulgar+turk
I was not sure whether to post there or not!

Eurogenes K13
North_Atlantic 16.46
Baltic 18.44
West_Med 15.90
West_Asian 18.00
East_Med 16.14
Red_Sea 3.15
South_Asian 1.34
East_Asian 2.85
Siberian 4.52 Pct
Amerindian 1.62
Oceanian 0.69
Northeast_African 0.88
Sub-Saharan -


Dodecad K12b
Gedrosia 8.86
Siberian 2.49
Northwest_African 1.51
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 21.21
North_European 26.92
South_Asian 0.18
East_African 0.23
Southwest_Asian 7.65
East_Asian 5.67
Caucasus 25.28



Teşekkür Kaspias!

I have seen a bunch of similar results from the villages around Arda river, and the Northern part of Kardzhali. May I ask the name of villages your parents are from? You can write via reputation panel(bottom-left of the comment) if you don't want to share publicly.
You are closest to this individual among my samples:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.76
2 West_Asian 18.21
3 West_Med 16.72
4 North_Atlantic 15.31
5 East_Med 15.01
6 Siberian 5.04
7 Red_Sea 4.47
8 East_Asian 3.82
9 South_Asian 1.11
10 Oceanian 0.41
11 Amerindian 0.15



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.01
2 North_European 25.31
3 Atlantic_Med 21.33
4 Gedrosia 8.38
5 Southwest_Asian 7.32
6 East_Asian 5.43
7 Siberian 3.85
8 Southeast_Asian 0.37


He is from:

https://i.ibb.co/8MQZkmG/Ads-z.png

And these are your single population sharing results both in Eurogenes K13 and Dodecad K12b.


Eurogenes K13


Distance to: BigRed
4.20929923 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
4.51055429 Turk_Kardzhali-West
5.81639063 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
6.45683359 Turk_Sliven-Alevi
6.83065883 Turk_Edirne
7.15523585 Turk_Kardzhali-East
7.28381082 Turk_Drama
7.48592012 Turk_Stara-Zagora
8.00228717 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
8.42016033 Turk_Komotini
8.64427556 Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
8.69168568 Pomak_Komotini
8.82960362 Macedonian_Southeast
8.84426368 Turk_Dobrich
8.87275042 Turk_Kavala
9.22710139 Pomak_Drama
9.43071047 Turk_Targovishte
9.82456615 Turk_Razgrad
10.35036714 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope
10.37165850 Bulgarian_Burgas
10.47157104 Turk_Xanthi
10.60909987 Turk_Kazanlik
10.77609391 Pomak_Nevrokopi
10.82302176 Gagauz
10.96743817 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
11.05255174 Turk_Burgas
11.16561687 GR_Macedonia
11.24278435 Turk_N-Macedonia
11.34036596 Turk_Alexandroupoli
11.36786260 Pomak_Kavala
11.43831281 Macedonian_Central
11.61229090 Macedonian_Greece
11.76252099 Vlach_North-Macedonia
11.79645286 Romania_Muntenia
11.80979678 Romania_Dobruja
11.97691112 Bulgarian
11.97743787 Bulgarian_Thrace
11.98215340 Greek_Western-Macedonia
11.98675519 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
11.99842073 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
12.00681473 Moldova_South
12.15241951 Greek_Istanbul
12.18430958 Turk_Crete
12.28209125 Kosovo_Albanian
12.35588119 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
12.38924130 Greek_Peloponnese
12.41120864 Bulgarian_Pazardzhik
12.46932236 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
12.47168393 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
12.50543882 Romanian_Wallachia
12.64327489 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
12.67492012 Turk_Thessaloniki
12.79664409 Macedonian_Northwest
12.83086513 Romania_Banat
12.92326197 Albanian_central_Albania
13.00705193 Greek_Central-Macedonia
13.04733306 Greek_Northern-Thrace
13.10385058 Bulgarian_Ruse
13.19992424 Albanian_Montenegro
13.22284765 Albanian_Kosovo
13.27641141 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
13.37385626 North_Macedonian
13.47447958 Romanian_Oltenia
13.53144856 Bulgarian_Central
13.55126193 Albanian
13.62191616 Greek_Thessaly
13.65207677 Greek_Thessaloniki
13.73618943 Bulgarian_Northwest
13.80480061 Macedonian
13.87857071 GR_Peloponese
13.90422598 Macedonian_North
13.96178355 Albanian_Albania
13.99817131 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
14.13397679 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
14.22399030 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
14.28856186 Romania_Transylvania
14.32884154 Bosniak_Sandzak
14.36295931 Montenegrin
14.38321939 Bulgarian_Serres
14.40254839 Albanian_Macedonia
14.42028779 Bulgarian_Sofia
14.43831361 Macedonian_Southwest
14.65106481 Albanian_north_Albania
14.88663495 Albanian_south_Albania
14.98052069 Macedonian_East
15.03991689 Romania_Moldavia_South
15.05939906 Romania_Moldavia_average
15.25051802 Romania_Moldavia_North
15.43404030 Moldova_Centre
15.71702262 Serb_Serbia_South&East
15.80198089 Bulgarian_Southwest
16.09980435 Greek_Western-Thrace
16.12741455 Serb_Herzegovina
16.29649656 Moldova_average
16.39066503 Bulgarian_Pleven
16.44841938 Greek_Andros_Island
16.89894967 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
16.90230753 Pomak_Plovdiv
16.92944476 Turk_North_West
17.01442329 Serb_Serbia


Dodecad K12b


Distance to: BigRed
4.63405870 Turk_Bulgaria
5.15921506 Turk_Romania
6.08503081 Turk_Greece
8.20642431 R.Moldova_Gagauz
8.68661039 Turk_Macedonia
8.99451500 Gagauz
9.57628320 R.Moldova_South
10.56810295 Pomak
11.37204467 Albanian_Kosovo
11.63520090 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
11.88975610 Albanian_North
11.90275178 Macedonian
12.55975318 Bulgarian
13.37099099 Romanians
13.55712728 Montenegrin
13.95475546 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
14.00544894 Bulgarians
14.81299139 Italy_Lazio
15.31534551 Italy_Apulia
15.99390059 Italy_FriuliVG
16.00475242 Serb
16.29788023 HUN_Szekely
16.35801204 Italy_Marche
16.36804814 Italy_Romagna
16.82758710 Italy_Abruzzo
17.46749986 Italy_Veneto
17.68913226 Greek
17.69640076 Turk_Northwest
17.69787558 R.Moldova_Centre+North
17.83268264 Italy_Tuscany
18.18848787 Italy_Emilia
18.41325574 Italy_Piedmont
18.64139582 Italy_Liguria
18.64235192 Italy_Sicily
19.09930627 Bosnian
19.19558283 MD_Jewish
19.49017050 Italy_Campania
19.72391695 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
19.98316742 Italy_Trentino
20.14456149 Italy_Lombardy
20.35832508 Turk_West_BlackSea
20.40765788 Croat
20.45531227 Turk_Southwest
20.96491742 Swiss_Italian
21.38171434 Italy_Calabria
21.86477532 Greek_Crete
22.18224515 Yoruk
22.18752028 France_Corsica
22.24494774 Ashkenazy_Jews
22.61476067 Ashkenazi


You model like pretty much legit 1/4 Central Asian and 3/4 Eastern Bulgarian which is Balkan Turk average. Dodecad K12b, MDLP World, PuntDNAL K15 oracles(not 4-way, just "Oracle") might give a clue about your general breakdown. I can answer if you have specific questions, but in general I can sum up that Balkan Turks are a mix of native people of where they live and with the Turkic addition, the same case goes for Anatolian Turks or Iranian Turks... And this is exactly what we see in your results as well.



I'm pretty sure that you are in I-L621. You can see the distribution: https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-L621/

It is one of the most common South Slavic haplogroups, which suggests Slavic deep origin in paternity.

Rgvgjhvv
08-01-2020, 11:28 PM
Another question, how do you get those little logos you have on top of your profile pictures? i.e Helenic, Turkic etc


Settings-->(On the left side) Permission Groups --> Join whatever group you desire!

Kaspias
08-01-2020, 11:29 PM
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So in the end, what does this all mean, and how should I fill out Y-DNA, Meta-Ethnicty, ancestry etc?

It is actually up to you. You might prefer to identify with any you have. You are a mix of Balkanic, Turkic, and Slavic if that's what you are asking. Ancestry is the region you are from. And your Y-DNA is I-L621.




Another question, how do you get those little logos you have on top of your profile pictures? i.e Helenic, Turkic etc


Settings -> Permission Groups

Big Red
08-01-2020, 11:54 PM
It is actually up to you. You might prefer to identify with any you have. You are a mix of Balkanic, Turkic, and Slavic if that's what you are asking. Ancestry is the region you are from. And your Y-DNA is I-L621.

Settings -> Permission Groups


Settings-->(On the left side) Permission Groups --> Join whatever group you desire!

Thank you, both of you!


I have seen a bunch of similar results from the villages around Arda river, and the Northern part of Kardzhali. May I ask the name of villages your parents are from? You can write via reputation panel(bottom-left of the comment) if you

I added a response to your reputation, thank you again. You've been a great help.

Edit: Is there a method to finding mtDNA?

Marmara
08-02-2020, 12:33 AM
I don't know what to make of all this information, and I am left more confused now than before I came into this all.
Am I a Bulgarian, a Turk, something in between, or a brand new mystery meat all together?
Thank you all for the help! :)

There is no mystery, your genetic result is consistent with your ancestry, Bulgarian Turk.

Kaspias
08-02-2020, 11:09 AM
I added a response to your reputation, thank you again. You've been a great help.

Edit: Is there a method to finding mtDNA?

Oruzlar is Povet, Dongular is Zornitsa. The sample I posted which you are closest to is from Zornitsa. That's pretty much bingo.

There are two major genetic groups among Bulgarian Turks: Ludogorie and Rhodope. Nearby of Arda River shows the features of being transitional between these two groups. You belong to this group too, no surprise here.

For mt-DNA, try this tool: https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

There is also another DNA tool that works like Gedmatch. You might want to try it: (have to download) https://dnagenics.com/admixture-studio/

If you try it please post oracle results from Eurogenes K13 updated, Dodecad K12b updated, and Eurogenes K10.

itilvolga
08-02-2020, 01:14 PM
Nice results, a mix of Turkic, Slavic and autochthon Thracian, typical Bulgarian Turk

Big Red
08-02-2020, 07:05 PM
Oruzlar is Povet, Dongular is Zornitsa. The sample I posted which you are closest to is from Zornitsa. That's pretty much bingo.

There are two major genetic groups among Bulgarian Turks: Ludogorie and Rhodope. Nearby of Arda River shows the features of being transitional between these two groups. You belong to this group too, no surprise here.

For mt-DNA, try this tool: https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

There is also another DNA tool that works like Gedmatch. You might want to try it: (have to download) https://dnagenics.com/admixture-studio/

If you try it please post oracle results from Eurogenes K13 updated, Dodecad K12b updated, and Eurogenes K10.

The mt-DNA tool wont work for me because I used ancestry, but I did use the DNA genics tool and here are my results

Eurogenes K10
Mixed Mode:
1 54.30% Romania_Bukovina + 45.70% Turkish_Ege @ 2.735
2 89.45% Turkish_Rumeli + 10.55% Mordvin @ 2.806
3 88.67% Turkish_Deliorman + 11.33% UZB_Turkmen @ 2.829
4 89.45% Turkish_Rumeli + 10.55% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.869
5 55.08% Turkish_Ege + 44.92% Hungary @ 2.948
6 89.45% Turkish_Deliorman + 10.55% Turkmen @ 2.963
7 57.42% Turkish_Ege + 42.58% Slovakia @ 2.971
8 91.02% Turkish_Rumeli + 8.98% North_Russian @ 3.002
9 89.45% Turkish_Rumeli + 10.55% Ukraine @ 3.014
10 89.45% Turkish_Deliorman + 10.55% Uzbek @ 3.019

Least-squares method.

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Turkish_Deliorman @ 4.512
2 100% Turkish_Rumeli @ 5.999
3 100% Gagauz @ 8.954
4 100% Moldova_South_Gagauz @ 8.956
5 100% Moldova_South @ 10.113
6 100% Romania_Muntenia @ 10.261
7 100% Albanian @ 11.331
8 100% GreeceMacedonia @ 11.786
9 100% GreeceNE @ 11.992
10 100% Bulgarian @ 12.191

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% GreeceKos + 50% Tatar-Mishar @ 3.190
2 50% Turkish_Ege + 50% Croat_Herzegovina @ 3.221
3 50% Romania_Bukovina + 50% Turkish_Ege @ 3.229
4 50% Turkish_Ege + 50% Croat @ 3.374
5 50% Moldova_North + 50% Turkish_Ege @ 3.387
6 50% Serbian_Bosnia + 50% Turkish_Ege @ 3.435
7 50% Croat_Bosnia + 50% Turkish_Ege @ 3.463
8 50% Romania_Bukovina + 50% Turkish_Marmara @ 3.466
9 50% Bosnian + 50% Turkish_Ege @ 3.544
10 50% Turkish_Deliorman + 50% Turkish_Rumeli @ 3.622

Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Turkish_Deliorman + 33% Turkish_Deliorman + 33% Turkish_Rumeli @ 3.491
2 33% GreeceMacedonia + 33% GreeceMacedonia + 33% Tatar_Volga @ 3.498
3 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Estonian_Polish @ 3.596
4 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Russia_Tver @ 3.626
5 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Karelian @ 3.642
6 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Russia_Kostroma @ 3.727
7 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Vepsa @ 3.766
8 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Russian_Archangelsk @ 3.784
9 33% West-Sicily + 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Russian_Archangelsk @ 3.797
10 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Russia_Smolensk @ 3.806

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Croat_Herzegovina + 25% Croat_Herzegovina @ 3.221
2 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Croat_Herzegovina + 25% Croat @ 3.274
3 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Croat_Herzegovina + 25% Hungary @ 3.303
4 25% GreeceKos + 25% GreeceKos + 25% Tatar_Kryashen + 25% Tatar-Mishar @ 3.405
5 25% Turkish_Marmara + 25% Turkish_Marmara + 25% East-Sicily18 + 25% Lithuanian @ 3.437
6 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Croat_Herzegovina + 25% Slovenian @ 3.456
7 25% Turkish_Marmara + 25% Turkish_Marmara + 25% East-Sicily18 + 25% Latvian @ 3.504
8 25% Moldova_North + 25% Moldova_North + 25% Turkish_Marmara + 25% Turkish_Ege @ 3.601
9 25% Turkish_Deliorman + 25% Turkish_Deliorman + 25% Turkish_Deliorman + 25% Turkish_Rumeli @ 3.602
10 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Croat_Herzegovina + 25% Slovakia @ 3.607


Eurogenes K13
Mixed Mode:
1 63.67% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 36.33% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 2.333
2 66.80% Vlach_North-Macedonia + 33.20% Nogay @ 2.425
3 58.20% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 41.80% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 2.522
4 50.39% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi + 49.61% Turk_Kardzhali-West @ 2.644
5 50.39% Turk_Sliven-Alevi + 49.61% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer @ 2.673
6 84.77% Turk_Edirne + 15.23% Cossacks_Kuban @ 2.701
7 65.23% Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander + 34.77% Nogay @ 2.776
8 83.20% Turk_Edirne + 16.80% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.825
9 85.55% Turk_Edirne + 14.45% Polish @ 2.857
10 72.27% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 27.73% Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes @ 2.860

Least-squares method.

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer @ 4.204
2 100% Turk_Kardzhali-West @ 4.502
3 100% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 5.821
4 100% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 6.468
5 100% Turk_Edirne @ 6.822
6 100% Turk_Kardzhali-East @ 7.166
7 100% Turk_Drama @ 7.274
8 100% Turk_Stara-Zagora @ 7.496
9 100% Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain @ 7.991
10 100% Turk_Komotini @ 8.407

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 2.634
2 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 50% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 2.655
3 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 50% Turk_Kardzhali-West @ 2.890
4 50% Turk_Sliven-Alevi + 50% Turk_Edirne @ 3.000
5 50% Turk_Sliven-Alevi + 50% Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain @ 3.496
6 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi + 50% Turk_Dobrich @ 3.531
7 50% Bulgarian_Dupnitsa + 50% Turk_North_West @ 3.576
8 50% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 50% Turk_Edirne @ 3.600
9 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 3.806
10 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 50% Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes @ 3.826

Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 2.292
2 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 33% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 2.354
3 33% Vlach_North-Macedonia + 33% Vlach_North-Macedonia + 33% Nogay @ 2.425
4 33% Bulgarian_Pazardzhik + 33% Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander + 33% Nogay @ 2.614
5 33% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 2.628
6 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 33% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 2.687
7 33% Central_Greek + 33% Serb_Croatia + 33% Nogay @ 2.798
8 33% Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander + 33% Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander + 33% Nogay @ 2.801
9 33% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-East @ 2.836
10 33% Romanian_Transylvania + 33% Vlach_Central-Macedonia + 33% Nogay @ 2.909

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 2.266
2 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 2.527
3 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi + 25% Turk_Edirne @ 2.531
4 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 2.585
5 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-East @ 2.599
6 25% Turk_Sliven-Alevi + 25% Turk_Sliven-Alevi + 25% Turk_Edirne + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain @ 2.616
7 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 2.634
8 25% Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes + 25% Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes + 25% Pomak_Komotini + 25% Nogay @ 2.661
9 25% Macedonian_Southeast + 25% Macedonian_Southeast + 25% Turk_Dobrich + 25% Nogay @ 2.818
10 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes @ 2.855


Dodecad K12b
Mixed Mode:
1 83.20% Gagauz + 16.80% Hazara @ 2.393
2 82.42% Gagauz + 17.58% Uygur @ 2.514
3 80.08% Gagauz + 19.92% Uzbeks @ 2.834
4 51.95% Croat + 48.05% Yoruk @ 3.285
5 76.95% Gagauz + 23.05% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3.298
6 50.39% Yoruk + 49.61% Croat @ 3.450
7 73.83% Pomak + 26.17% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3.541
8 53.52% Bosnian + 46.48% Yoruk @ 3.565
9 71.48% Macedonian + 28.52% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3.620
10 63.67% Turk_Northwest + 36.33% German @ 3.638

Least-squares method.

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Gagauz @ 8.970
2 100% Pomak @ 10.551
3 100% Albanian_Kosovo @ 11.359
4 100% Macedonian @ 11.594
5 100% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 11.609
6 100% Albanian_North @ 11.878
7 100% Bulgarian @ 12.546
8 100% Romanians @ 13.359
9 100% Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 13.932
10 100% Bulgarians @ 13.997

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Croat + 50% Yoruk @ 3.403
2 50% Croat + 50% Turk_Southwest @ 3.702
3 50% Bosnian + 50% Yoruk @ 3.890
4 50% Turk_Northwest + 50% Croat @ 3.936
5 50% Turk_Northwest + 50% Bosnian @ 4.013
6 50% Bosnian + 50% Turk_Southwest @ 4.058
7 50% Yoruk + 50% Hungarians @ 4.524
8 50% Turk_Southwest + 50% Hungarians @ 4.648
9 50% Turk_West_BlackSea + 50% Croat @ 4.709
10 50% Turk_Central_Black_Sea + 50% German @ 4.713

Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Bosnian + 33% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 33% Greek_Crete @ 2.860
2 33% Bosnian + 33% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 33% Italy_Calabria @ 3.236
3 33% Greek_Crete + 33% Yoruk + 33% Swedish @ 3.438
4 33% Yoruk + 33% Ashkenazy_Jews + 33% Swedish @ 3.490
5 33% Bosnian + 33% Italy_Campania + 33% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3.597
6 33% Italy_Sicily + 33% Bosnian + 33% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3.713
7 33% Albanian_North + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3.838
8 33% Italy_Campania + 33% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 33% Croat @ 3.944
9 33% Turk_Northwest + 33% Turk_Northwest + 33% German @ 3.952
10 33% Bosnian + 33% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 33% Sephardic_Jews @ 4.010

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Yoruk + 25% Yoruk + 25% France_Corsica + 25% Polish @ 2.648
2 25% Pomak + 25% Pomak + 25% Albanian_Kosovo + 25% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.769
3 25% Yoruk + 25% Yoruk + 25% France_Corsica + 25% Belorussian @ 2.909
4 25% Yoruk + 25% Yoruk + 25% France_Corsica + 25% Mixed_Slav @ 3.087
5 25% Gagauz + 25% Gagauz + 25% Pomak + 25% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3.122
6 25% Bosnian + 25% Bosnian + 25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 3.267
7 25% Croat + 25% Croat + 25% Turk_Southwest + 25% Yoruk @ 3.296
8 25% Yoruk + 25% Yoruk + 25% France_Corsica + 25% Lithuanian @ 3.344
9 25% Albanian_North + 25% Albanian_North + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Uzbeks @ 3.354
10 25% Gagauz + 25% Gagauz + 25% Gagauz + 25% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3.358


Funny how you get much closer matches with community tools than private ones.

Kaspias
08-03-2020, 10:46 AM
The mt-DNA tool wont work for me because I used ancestry, but I did use the DNA genics tool and here are my results

Eurogenes K10
Mixed Mode:
1 54.30% Romania_Bukovina + 45.70% Turkish_Ege @ 2.735
2 89.45% Turkish_Rumeli + 10.55% Mordvin @ 2.806
3 88.67% Turkish_Deliorman + 11.33% UZB_Turkmen @ 2.829
4 89.45% Turkish_Rumeli + 10.55% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.869
5 55.08% Turkish_Ege + 44.92% Hungary @ 2.948
6 89.45% Turkish_Deliorman + 10.55% Turkmen @ 2.963
7 57.42% Turkish_Ege + 42.58% Slovakia @ 2.971
8 91.02% Turkish_Rumeli + 8.98% North_Russian @ 3.002
9 89.45% Turkish_Rumeli + 10.55% Ukraine @ 3.014
10 89.45% Turkish_Deliorman + 10.55% Uzbek @ 3.019

Least-squares method.

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Turkish_Deliorman @ 4.512
2 100% Turkish_Rumeli @ 5.999
3 100% Gagauz @ 8.954
4 100% Moldova_South_Gagauz @ 8.956
5 100% Moldova_South @ 10.113
6 100% Romania_Muntenia @ 10.261
7 100% Albanian @ 11.331
8 100% GreeceMacedonia @ 11.786
9 100% GreeceNE @ 11.992
10 100% Bulgarian @ 12.191

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% GreeceKos + 50% Tatar-Mishar @ 3.190
2 50% Turkish_Ege + 50% Croat_Herzegovina @ 3.221
3 50% Romania_Bukovina + 50% Turkish_Ege @ 3.229
4 50% Turkish_Ege + 50% Croat @ 3.374
5 50% Moldova_North + 50% Turkish_Ege @ 3.387
6 50% Serbian_Bosnia + 50% Turkish_Ege @ 3.435
7 50% Croat_Bosnia + 50% Turkish_Ege @ 3.463
8 50% Romania_Bukovina + 50% Turkish_Marmara @ 3.466
9 50% Bosnian + 50% Turkish_Ege @ 3.544
10 50% Turkish_Deliorman + 50% Turkish_Rumeli @ 3.622

Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Turkish_Deliorman + 33% Turkish_Deliorman + 33% Turkish_Rumeli @ 3.491
2 33% GreeceMacedonia + 33% GreeceMacedonia + 33% Tatar_Volga @ 3.498
3 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Estonian_Polish @ 3.596
4 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Russia_Tver @ 3.626
5 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Karelian @ 3.642
6 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Russia_Kostroma @ 3.727
7 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Vepsa @ 3.766
8 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Russian_Archangelsk @ 3.784
9 33% West-Sicily + 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Russian_Archangelsk @ 3.797
10 33% Turkish_Ege + 33% Crete + 33% Russia_Smolensk @ 3.806

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Croat_Herzegovina + 25% Croat_Herzegovina @ 3.221
2 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Croat_Herzegovina + 25% Croat @ 3.274
3 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Croat_Herzegovina + 25% Hungary @ 3.303
4 25% GreeceKos + 25% GreeceKos + 25% Tatar_Kryashen + 25% Tatar-Mishar @ 3.405
5 25% Turkish_Marmara + 25% Turkish_Marmara + 25% East-Sicily18 + 25% Lithuanian @ 3.437
6 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Croat_Herzegovina + 25% Slovenian @ 3.456
7 25% Turkish_Marmara + 25% Turkish_Marmara + 25% East-Sicily18 + 25% Latvian @ 3.504
8 25% Moldova_North + 25% Moldova_North + 25% Turkish_Marmara + 25% Turkish_Ege @ 3.601
9 25% Turkish_Deliorman + 25% Turkish_Deliorman + 25% Turkish_Deliorman + 25% Turkish_Rumeli @ 3.602
10 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Turkish_Ege + 25% Croat_Herzegovina + 25% Slovakia @ 3.607


Eurogenes K13
Mixed Mode:
1 63.67% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 36.33% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 2.333
2 66.80% Vlach_North-Macedonia + 33.20% Nogay @ 2.425
3 58.20% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 41.80% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 2.522
4 50.39% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi + 49.61% Turk_Kardzhali-West @ 2.644
5 50.39% Turk_Sliven-Alevi + 49.61% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer @ 2.673
6 84.77% Turk_Edirne + 15.23% Cossacks_Kuban @ 2.701
7 65.23% Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander + 34.77% Nogay @ 2.776
8 83.20% Turk_Edirne + 16.80% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.825
9 85.55% Turk_Edirne + 14.45% Polish @ 2.857
10 72.27% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 27.73% Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes @ 2.860

Least-squares method.

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer @ 4.204
2 100% Turk_Kardzhali-West @ 4.502
3 100% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 5.821
4 100% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 6.468
5 100% Turk_Edirne @ 6.822
6 100% Turk_Kardzhali-East @ 7.166
7 100% Turk_Drama @ 7.274
8 100% Turk_Stara-Zagora @ 7.496
9 100% Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain @ 7.991
10 100% Turk_Komotini @ 8.407

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 2.634
2 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 50% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 2.655
3 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 50% Turk_Kardzhali-West @ 2.890
4 50% Turk_Sliven-Alevi + 50% Turk_Edirne @ 3.000
5 50% Turk_Sliven-Alevi + 50% Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain @ 3.496
6 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi + 50% Turk_Dobrich @ 3.531
7 50% Bulgarian_Dupnitsa + 50% Turk_North_West @ 3.576
8 50% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 50% Turk_Edirne @ 3.600
9 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 3.806
10 50% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 50% Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes @ 3.826

Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 2.292
2 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 33% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 2.354
3 33% Vlach_North-Macedonia + 33% Vlach_North-Macedonia + 33% Nogay @ 2.425
4 33% Bulgarian_Pazardzhik + 33% Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander + 33% Nogay @ 2.614
5 33% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 2.628
6 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 33% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 2.687
7 33% Central_Greek + 33% Serb_Croatia + 33% Nogay @ 2.798
8 33% Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander + 33% Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander + 33% Nogay @ 2.801
9 33% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi + 33% Turk_Kardzhali-East @ 2.836
10 33% Romanian_Transylvania + 33% Vlach_Central-Macedonia + 33% Nogay @ 2.909

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 2.266
2 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 2.527
3 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi + 25% Turk_Edirne @ 2.531
4 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Sliven-Alevi @ 2.585
5 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-East @ 2.599
6 25% Turk_Sliven-Alevi + 25% Turk_Sliven-Alevi + 25% Turk_Edirne + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain @ 2.616
7 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi @ 2.634
8 25% Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes + 25% Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes + 25% Pomak_Komotini + 25% Nogay @ 2.661
9 25% Macedonian_Southeast + 25% Macedonian_Southeast + 25% Turk_Dobrich + 25% Nogay @ 2.818
10 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer + 25% Turk_Kardzhali-West + 25% Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes @ 2.855


Dodecad K12b
Mixed Mode:
1 83.20% Gagauz + 16.80% Hazara @ 2.393
2 82.42% Gagauz + 17.58% Uygur @ 2.514
3 80.08% Gagauz + 19.92% Uzbeks @ 2.834
4 51.95% Croat + 48.05% Yoruk @ 3.285
5 76.95% Gagauz + 23.05% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3.298
6 50.39% Yoruk + 49.61% Croat @ 3.450
7 73.83% Pomak + 26.17% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3.541
8 53.52% Bosnian + 46.48% Yoruk @ 3.565
9 71.48% Macedonian + 28.52% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3.620
10 63.67% Turk_Northwest + 36.33% German @ 3.638

Least-squares method.

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Gagauz @ 8.970
2 100% Pomak @ 10.551
3 100% Albanian_Kosovo @ 11.359
4 100% Macedonian @ 11.594
5 100% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 11.609
6 100% Albanian_North @ 11.878
7 100% Bulgarian @ 12.546
8 100% Romanians @ 13.359
9 100% Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 13.932
10 100% Bulgarians @ 13.997

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Croat + 50% Yoruk @ 3.403
2 50% Croat + 50% Turk_Southwest @ 3.702
3 50% Bosnian + 50% Yoruk @ 3.890
4 50% Turk_Northwest + 50% Croat @ 3.936
5 50% Turk_Northwest + 50% Bosnian @ 4.013
6 50% Bosnian + 50% Turk_Southwest @ 4.058
7 50% Yoruk + 50% Hungarians @ 4.524
8 50% Turk_Southwest + 50% Hungarians @ 4.648
9 50% Turk_West_BlackSea + 50% Croat @ 4.709
10 50% Turk_Central_Black_Sea + 50% German @ 4.713

Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Bosnian + 33% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 33% Greek_Crete @ 2.860
2 33% Bosnian + 33% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 33% Italy_Calabria @ 3.236
3 33% Greek_Crete + 33% Yoruk + 33% Swedish @ 3.438
4 33% Yoruk + 33% Ashkenazy_Jews + 33% Swedish @ 3.490
5 33% Bosnian + 33% Italy_Campania + 33% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3.597
6 33% Italy_Sicily + 33% Bosnian + 33% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3.713
7 33% Albanian_North + 33% Bulgarian + 33% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3.838
8 33% Italy_Campania + 33% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 33% Croat @ 3.944
9 33% Turk_Northwest + 33% Turk_Northwest + 33% German @ 3.952
10 33% Bosnian + 33% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 33% Sephardic_Jews @ 4.010

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Yoruk + 25% Yoruk + 25% France_Corsica + 25% Polish @ 2.648
2 25% Pomak + 25% Pomak + 25% Albanian_Kosovo + 25% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2.769
3 25% Yoruk + 25% Yoruk + 25% France_Corsica + 25% Belorussian @ 2.909
4 25% Yoruk + 25% Yoruk + 25% France_Corsica + 25% Mixed_Slav @ 3.087
5 25% Gagauz + 25% Gagauz + 25% Pomak + 25% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3.122
6 25% Bosnian + 25% Bosnian + 25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 3.267
7 25% Croat + 25% Croat + 25% Turk_Southwest + 25% Yoruk @ 3.296
8 25% Yoruk + 25% Yoruk + 25% France_Corsica + 25% Lithuanian @ 3.344
9 25% Albanian_North + 25% Albanian_North + 25% Bulgarian + 25% Uzbeks @ 3.354
10 25% Gagauz + 25% Gagauz + 25% Gagauz + 25% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3.358


Funny how you get much closer matches with community tools than private ones.

You have decent oracle results in three of these calculators, they should make understanding of your general admixture breakdown clear, did they?


Funny how you get much closer matches with community tools than private ones.


In my experience community tools are always better than private ones. In fact, I'm the person who supplied these Balkan Turk, Pomak, Bulgarian samples to these community calculators. So if you have any questions feel free to ask.

You might be interested in this thread also, focused on ancestors of Balkan Turks: Turkic Migration to the Balkans (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?316809-Turkic-Migration-to-the-Balkans)