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gixajo
08-08-2020, 10:55 PM
A little game with some customized references I have compiled.

The game consist of modeling yourself using the least number of references from this small datasheet, and getting the smallest possible distance.

1-The maximum number of references that can be used is 5

2-only references that are in the datasheet can be used

3-To be more fair, try to use no more than 2 references from the same country in the maximun of 5.(Italians, Iberians and Frenchs are overrepresented)

(sorry, some ethnic group could have it difficult, that is the goal, complete with ethnicities to wich I have not already make any customized reference)

Some ethnicities probably will score less than 2 with 1 reference, but this is only to have some fun, it´s not a competition.


Amerindian,0.05436967,-0.29863367,0.11187933,0.08561167,-0.10229633,-0.01710567,-0.24649467,-0.29544133,-0.00721667,-0.01559333,-0.00024900,-0.00372400,0.00231900,0.01401467,-0.00821100,0.00129067,0.00334633,0.00021767,0.0046 9700,0.00300767,0.00010800,0.00123633,0.00109267,0 .00337033,0.00195233
Arabian,0.05059585,0.13995270,-0.06513990,-0.11723870,-0.00940130,-0.04997380,-0.01229238,-0.00808298,0.05608075,-0.00410653,0.01556333,-0.03192903,0.06243548,0.00350273,0.00455410,0.0252 5745,-0.02140830,0.00386218,0.00015448,0.02687405,0.0126 3658,0.01614353,-0.00905183,0.00697205,-0.00832413
Armenian,0.10509315,0.13768585,-0.05823490,-0.06060000,-0.03175850,-0.01561800,0.00589615,-0.00656435,-0.03826240,-0.00506190,0.00201840,0.00339870,-0.00773695,0.00172020,-0.00649520,-0.00460265,0.00474855,0.00030305,0.00022010,0.0008 9650,0.00294790,0.00317855,-0.00264765,-0.00425920,0.00036025
Balkan,0.12638157,0.13520087,0.04103063,0.01803417 ,0.03150327,0.00620067,0.00450420,0.00621514,0.001 42483,0.00096587,-0.00188910,-0.00109397,0.00282463,0.01096387,-0.01073077,-0.00273577,0.00497627,-0.00082773,0.00328490,-0.00291803,-0.00656340,-0.00225870,0.00450270,0.00035350,-0.00131333
Balkan:B,0.12289430,0.13843715,0.02768647,0.002998 29,0.02453624,0.00041063,0.00419676,0.00357156,0.0 0081254,0.00554718,-0.00112475,0.00018977,0.00115951,0.00985816,-0.01129423,-0.00276136,0.00442948,0.00082549,0.00480036,-0.00341771,-0.00538252,-0.00095619,0.00265731,-0.00068067,-0.00111761
Baltic,0.13419740,0.11830925,0.08826510,0.08638635 ,0.04299255,0.03189105,0.01198555,0.01426095,-0.00087945,-0.03266560,-0.00175390,-0.01308335,0.02134025,0.02636855,-0.00861145,0.00288380,0.00146670,-0.00143170,0.00147695,0.00325795,-0.00070510,-0.00379000,0.00666760,-0.00428965,0.00284405
Berber,-0.06548320,0.13410613,-0.00816420,-0.07538218,0.02581348,-0.03472953,-0.02944445,0.00831648,0.06752790,0.02796198,0.0070 7855,-0.00796418,0.02308645,-0.01552258,0.01677808,-0.01294335,-0.00285148,-0.02166338,-0.04415378,0.01019313,-0.01565483,-0.03933808,0.02467100,-0.00293920,0.00493865
British_Islands,0.13165413,0.13707704,0.06136654,0 .04485214,0.03995564,0.01709027,0.00374873,0.00575 732,0.00510017,0.00480905,-0.00518153,0.00578464,-0.01307829,-0.01129563,0.02183706,0.00395673,-0.01089574,0.00277469,0.00292593,0.00235050,0.0050 8376,0.00321609,-0.00117769,0.01363141,0.00036479
English,0.13102565,0.13839775,0.06157145,0.0435978 0,0.04056560,0.01657980,0.00420955,0.00606750,0.00 587280,0.00632250,-0.00470165,0.00604745,-0.01316735,-0.01029915,0.02068505,0.00336205,-0.01144795,0.00310430,0.00372315,0.00310190,0.0053 7285,0.00363740,-0.00201385,0.01408045,0.00036125
Chinese,0.02574093,-0.44672400,0.00416373,-0.06463350,0.05351190,0.02476773,0.00551737,0.0020 7600,-0.01316077,0.00126697,-0.07530797,-0.01189107,0.01126457,-0.00655843,-0.00550930,0.00257083,0.00261210,0.00151403,0.0006 5540,-0.00996537,0.01280200,0.00725607,0.01069883,-0.00123393,-0.00250313
French:Center,0.12629375,0.14304605,0.04892535,0.0 1849095,0.04218765,0.00665110,0.00122955,0.0039836 0,0.01350490,0.02017300,-0.00508600,0.00708335,-0.01343755,-0.01002685,0.01103420,0.00377305,-0.00130630,0.00308060,0.00289040,-0.00059540,0.00202930,0.00365585,-0.00175740,0.00647840,-0.00099690
French:France_Nord-Ouest,0.13178183,0.13863970,0.05247007,0.03188280, 0.04013817,0.01509430,0.00384553,0.00160890,0.0068 9857,0.00931887,-0.00562590,0.00509383,-0.01065307,-0.00892407,0.01541860,0.00534807,-0.00524437,0.00025050,-0.00105483,0.00034073,0.00612677,0.00291067,-0.00097933,0.00690943,-0.00175630
French:France:France_Nord-Est,0.12779320,0.14045735,0.05083715,0.02401875,0. 03834760,0.00890055,0.00200830,0.00464710,0.007612 30,0.01134780,-0.00330905,0.00430565,-0.01015255,-0.00617610,0.00987985,0.00280470,-0.00474980,0.00233265,0.00366885,0.00015740,0.0024 4830,0.00134055,-0.00144715,0.00730355,-0.00014990
French:France_Sud-Est,0.12448190,0.14436455,0.04288520,0.01163330,0. 04011650,0.00287300,0.00139465,0.00376440,0.012457 05,0.02202135,-0.00357850,0.00689640,-0.01359060,-0.01020960,0.00834635,0.00287075,-0.00130605,0.00264705,0.00159965,-0.00073515,0.00260600,0.00259025,-0.00109765,0.00360540,0.00022880
French:France_Sud-Ouest,0.12711605,0.14840510,0.05239550,0.01084125, 0.05355055,0.00258965,-0.00057070,0.00279880,0.02911845,0.03993185,-0.00802325,0.00885285,-0.02141455,-0.01379480,0.01179605,0.00041470,-0.00851035,0.00240975,-0.00025055,-0.00125140,0.00757405,0.00082770,-0.00695215,-0.00836335,-0.00067410
Georgian,0.10835960,0.13506550,-0.05811440,-0.05122780,-0.03449870,-0.00872940,0.01015250,-0.00519230,-0.05675520,-0.01525330,0.00121790,0.01150970,-0.02157060,0.00567000,-0.00108580,-0.02031270,0.00988310,-0.00392740,-0.00624710,0.01288120,0.00893410,0.00169400,-0.00067780,-0.00788050,-0.00144900
German,0.12967560,0.13619240,0.05618755,0.03572190 ,0.03738955,0.01410635,0.00564820,0.00601530,0.003 17670,0.00231755,-0.00414570,0.00157895,-0.00333240,0.00012160,0.00450770,0.00349405,-0.00152525,0.00122655,0.00327310,0.00127880,0.0010 7455,-0.00032490,0.00086965,0.00563395,-0.00037550
German:B,0.12850750,0.13434200,0.05953750,0.042428 00,0.04023600,0.01613500,0.00530550,0.00693350,0.0 0355100,0.00110350,-0.00542900,0.00348000,-0.00703950,-0.00569200,0.01297850,0.00431800,-0.00574350,0.00146500,0.00381850,0.00226650,0.0039 1550,0.00243600,0.00017000,0.01182950,-0.00010750
Greek,0.11140840,0.14591180,-0.00812253,-0.04104343,0.00871315,-0.01319430,0.00090083,-0.00172838,-0.00075845,0.01704973,0.00310060,0.00279748,-0.00398438,0.00354085,-0.00934730,-0.00112803,0.00415830,0.00021075,0.00356465,-0.00389083,-0.00505928,0.00134385,0.00106483,0.00079573,-0.00272183
Greek:Islander,0.10368180,0.14660290,-0.02994705,-0.06206085,-0.00144900,-0.02127530,0.00125335,-0.00422575,-0.00151690,0.01532945,0.00354890,0.00149865,-0.00068445,0.00139340,-0.00960130,0.00194265,0.00618690,0.00097050,0.0029 8100,-0.00244565,-0.00313085,0.00141000,-0.00144465,0.00018575,-0.00209065
Iberian:Center,0.11164140,0.14594010,0.04041465,-0.00269165,0.04294360,-0.00147585,-0.00171355,0.00317290,0.02653685,0.03157990,-0.00221925,0.00826750,-0.01368300,-0.01220250,0.01127050,-0.00380075,-0.00640495,-0.00096065,-0.00232535,-0.00149035,0.00287500,0.00028850,0.00013350,-0.00322815,-0.00191590
Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia,0.10746950,0.14553650,0.0 3853550,-0.00304150,0.04167050,-0.00207100,-0.00459900,0.00259150,0.02515550,0.02988500,-0.00143150,0.00657900,-0.01267400,-0.01171000,0.01185050,0.00009550,-0.00268450,-0.00152400,-0.00540200,-0.00062600,0.00100550,-0.00273550,0.00024650,-0.00240750,0.00059950
Iberian:North_Iberia,0.12242300,0.14849267,0.04831 367,0.00441433,0.04920567,-0.00158033,-0.00117500,0.00112833,0.02542900,0.03776333,-0.00550333,0.00982467,-0.01831833,-0.01532200,0.01438633,0.00066300,-0.00819967,0.00174567,-0.00188533,-0.00464133,0.00506033,0.00028867,-0.00647733,-0.00282500,0.00303367
Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia,0.11628950,0.14543250,0.0 4336900,0.00072050,0.04682900,-0.00072050,-0.00201750,0.00200900,0.02276150,0.03187600,-0.00244950,0.00846100,-0.01443250,-0.01149150,0.00923450,0.00037000,-0.00267300,-0.00168400,-0.00118350,-0.00093800,0.00588550,-0.00354950,-0.00297350,-0.00353450,0.00150700
Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia,0.10646733,0.14688233,0.0 3492500,-0.00301667,0.04277467,-0.00423167,-0.00322200,0.00147333,0.02499733,0.03070867,-0.00139567,0.00657967,-0.01218267,-0.01163967,0.01011833,-0.00009600,-0.00321833,-0.00176033,-0.00547800,-0.00065367,0.00206267,-0.00287133,-0.00071667,-0.00307933,0.00107233
Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia,0.11097733,0.14567500,0.0 3798667,-0.00415933,0.04427033,-0.00425333,-0.00287600,0.00034833,0.02487300,0.03243767,-0.00255833,0.00645767,-0.01361933,-0.01153233,0.00841333,-0.00166133,-0.00373200,-0.00014500,-0.00148333,-0.00060700,0.00447000,-0.00091833,-0.00123267,-0.00407733,0.00092767
India,0.05425723,-0.05224190,-0.14531813,0.10516810,-0.07525927,0.06000990,0.00056697,0.01146813,0.0299 5450,0.01783713,-0.00570163,-0.00016823,-0.00002613,0.00110113,0.00060693,-0.00117137,-0.00384817,0.00066970,0.00074737,-0.00379923,0.00015303,-0.00049060,0.00129760,0.00150510,-0.00206300
Irish/Scottish/Welsh,0.13228260,0.13575633,0.06116163,0.04610647, 0.03934567,0.01760073,0.00328790,0.00544713,0.0043 2753,0.00329560,-0.00566140,0.00552183,-0.01298923,-0.01229210,0.02298907,0.00455140,-0.01034353,0.00244507,0.00212870,0.00159910,0.0047 9467,0.00279477,-0.00034153,0.01318237,0.00036833
Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC,0.1348526,0.1361087,0.0636853,0.04883 73,0.0387137,0.0183944,0.0036176,0.0048899,0.00515 08,-0.0005142,-0.0061089,0.0037207,-0.0138265,-0.0119956,0.0247883,0.0025116,-0.0096953,0.0033035,0.0018612,0.0021349,0.0039181, 0.0032281,0.0018050,0.0164227,0.0032161
Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C,0.13243495,0.13455310,0.06167650,0.0476479 0,0.03872240,0.01809020,0.00327511,0.00497470,0.00 335185,0.00277480,-0.00637700,0.00532665,-0.01302825,-0.01295045,0.02418590,0.00397310,-0.01116370,0.00248940,0.00165005,0.00139505,0.0046 9955,0.00226625,-0.00050610,0.01416140,0.00014835
Italian:Center,0.11701408,0.14925148,0.00917310,-0.02814708,0.02221933,-0.01003865,0.00044550,-0.00159775,0.00642820,0.02364700,0.00002603,0.0045 2040,-0.00955638,-0.00467495,-0.00375115,0.00052440,0.00259400,0.00045623,0.0023 5623,-0.00327855,-0.00208228,0.00226180,-0.00011475,0.00257140,-0.00120693
Italian:South_Italian:Mainland,0.10765055,0.147301 15,-0.00740228,-0.04272373,0.01384175,-0.01458015,-0.00069750,-0.00217618,0.00395688,0.02090800,0.00024765,0.0030 1008,-0.00603383,-0.00056470,-0.00836273,-0.00287953,0.00428768,0.00024715,0.00346385,-0.00433768,-0.00310053,0.00091510,0.00123820,0.00246810,0.0000 4713
Italian:South_Italian:Sicilian,0.10168200,0.146067 00,-0.00383415,-0.03832935,0.01861865,-0.01259680,-0.00129250,0.00030765,0.01046465,0.02180770,0.0053 5865,0.00349700,-0.00418735,0.00250000,-0.00409415,-0.00483950,-0.00236850,-0.00059115,0.00180165,-0.00500250,0.00039535,0.00175180,-0.00254700,-0.00060250,0.00031915
Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B,0.12088005,0.14803870, 0.02668133,-0.01301690,0.03185970,-0.00463645,0.00173313,0.00075578,0.00955653,0.0267 6138,-0.00346693,0.00623440,-0.01254318,-0.00359883,-0.00175085,-0.00680175,-0.00355968,0.00073808,0.00363588,-0.00318288,-0.00152863,0.00101390,-0.00082878,0.00284960,0.00022458
Italian:NorthEast_Italian,0.12542900,0.14592190,0. 03352107,-0.00264457,0.03564947,-0.00060257,0.00285707,0.00234943,0.00940747,0.0209 5333,-0.00253820,0.00509107,-0.01078937,-0.00234117,-0.00259897,-0.00018743,0.00269963,0.00150253,0.00365313,-0.00328243,-0.00198453,0.00203360,-0.00081240,0.00217507,-0.00182223
Iran,0.08819270,0.10113475,-0.06562890,-0.02964950,-0.04627995,-0.00295545,0.00468410,-0.00464850,-0.02821040,-0.01373640,0.00216160,-0.00098600,0.00418345,-0.00166035,0.00498295,0.01070660,-0.00466300,0.00281875,0.00398130,-0.00991535,-0.00093175,-0.00418420,-0.00039000,-0.00518885,0.00490625
MiddleEast,0.05685165,0.12859275,-0.04813445,-0.06769060,-0.01581660,-0.02342100,-0.00406920,-0.00286015,0.00661045,-0.00050155,0.00442385,-0.00707060,0.01346310,-0.00017820,-0.00193140,0.00745640,-0.00185565,0.00011665,0.00003315,0.00229120,0.0015 7940,0.00151840,-0.00176365,0.00088215,-0.00121830
Palestinian/Jewish,0.08970675,0.15220263,-0.04970895,-0.08630155,-0.00821318,-0.02909195,-0.00308430,-0.00400938,0.01374138,0.01814400,0.00735825,-0.00407470,0.00702445,0.00651988,-0.00855050,0.00501358,-0.00108388,0.00259705,0.00276545,0.00053945,-0.00321313,0.00803751,0.00093205,0.00186763,0.0012 6450
Scandinavian,0.13387755,0.12812600,0.07000080,0.05 487155,0.03977280,0.02123570,0.00562880,0.00779640 ,0.00531760,-0.00310225,-0.00426855,0.00259765,-0.00608450,-0.00776585,0.01803785,0.00670525,-0.00632675,0.00230450,0.00208300,0.00281375,0.0063 5490,0.00392150,0.00270265,0.01419580,0.00005980
Slav,0.13138390,0.12667805,0.06910955,0.05764665,0 .03918105,0.02150315,0.00872160,0.01108490,-0.00191195,-0.01982615,-0.00299075,-0.00703905,0.01422465,0.02013115,-0.00912990,-0.00082800,0.00311790,-0.00038630,0.00264685,0.00149370,-0.00381375,-0.00329875,0.00617250,-0.00369530,0.00031705
SSA:A,-0.55687967,0.06753267,0.00828100,-0.00197833,-0.00047466,-0.00003500,-0.01680300,0.02377800,0.01856900,-0.02692533,-0.00502067,0.00591333,-0.01327400,0.00153100,-0.00610700,0.00092800,0.00531300,-0.00194267,0.00208467,-0.00411667,0.00054600,-0.00162833,-0.00365633,-0.00061267,0.00158167
SSA:B,-0.6242421,0.0639936,0.0215130,0.0145326,0.0028094, 0.0117579,-0.0161961,0.0216721,-0.0308661,0.0149323,0.0037054,0.0018871,-0.0006642,0.0019913,-0.0064682,0.0041677,-0.0048993,0.0149827,-0.0066659,0.0019943,0.0010692,0.0020188,0.0011803, 0.0001642,0.0012754
Turkic,0.08279575,-0.04872655,-0.00773435,-0.00521585,-0.04090210,-0.00345510,0.00827315,0.00604885,-0.01586195,-0.01025075,-0.00767745,-0.00170265,0.00110940,-0.00557500,0.00308635,0.00607450,-0.00259560,0.00098765,-0.00011860,-0.00280345,-0.00721875,-0.00283710,-0.00430805,-0.00055895,0.00290500
Turkish,0.09640925,0.06378650,-0.02045625,-0.03320250,-0.02308875,-0.01185625,0.00550450,-0.00071725,-0.01859325,-0.00091900,-0.00156250,0.00106575,-0.00297950,0.00045875,-0.00413350,0.00206750,0.00507075,0.00100425,0.0012 1175,-0.00008175,-0.00320775,0.00049575,-0.00238325,0.00046100,0.00063825
Yemenite,0.05174190,0.13874660,-0.06566620,-0.11837600,-0.00721070,-0.05182340,-0.01121515,-0.00798695,0.06050780,-0.00232075,0.01483365,-0.03200295,0.06152495,0.00486465,0.00592640,0.0233 3400,-0.02076730,0.00343125,0.00063025,0.02348350,0.0122 1305,0.01540175,-0.01090055,0.00567000,-0.00689545

Rocinante
08-08-2020, 11:02 PM
Which would be the distance to reach?

gixajo
08-08-2020, 11:07 PM
Me:

https://i.imgur.com/MNbf9fr.png

(with an screen capture we can see the number of sources used, in my case 2)

gixajo
08-08-2020, 11:09 PM
Which would be the distance to reach?

The least possible with the least possible number of references.

I want to see if everybody can get less than 3 with a maximum of 5 references.

gixajo
08-08-2020, 11:15 PM
If i choose the 2 best Iberian references and add the first reference of every first country (no more than 2 references form the same country), to use the maximun numver of references(5)

https://i.imgur.com/ks3IlMm.png


Edit:corrected.

Luke35
08-08-2020, 11:22 PM
Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 1.2590% / 0.01258951
50.2 British_Islands
46.2 Balkan
3.6 Turkic


Target: Mr.G_scaled
Distance: 1.4787% / 0.01478691
51.6 Balkan
48.4 British_Islands

Rocinante
08-08-2020, 11:26 PM
Using 5:

Distance: 2.7546% / 0.02754564
39.6 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
24.8 French:Center
19.0 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
10.0 Berber
6.6 Greek:Islander

gixajo
08-08-2020, 11:27 PM
Anyone can use his own criteria, for example, simply wtach the distance list, or model himself according to his known ancestry...

For example a person from british Islands can try irish/Welsh/Scottish and English references, or a person from Serbia any Balkan sample and any Slav reference, South Italians can use greek references...

gixajo
08-08-2020, 11:32 PM
The best references are 3 with "I":Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC, Iran, and India, and Berber reference is quite good also.

Probably one person with any of those origins will get the lowest distance with a single reference.

Grace O'Malley
08-08-2020, 11:37 PM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.7797% / 0.01779744 | ADC: 0.25x
82.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
18.0 Scandinavian

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.7771% / 0.01777065
87.2 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
10.6 Scandinavian
2.2 Baltic

When I use aggregate it comes out slightly different.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.7771% / 0.01777056
49.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
37.6 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C
11.4 Scandinavian
2.0 Baltic

Grace O'Malley
08-08-2020, 11:45 PM
What's the difference with these references? I get slightly different results depending on what one is used.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8467% / 0.01846729
69.6 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
30.4 Scandinavian

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.7950% / 0.01794953
76.2 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
21.0 Scandinavian
2.6 British_Islands
0.2 Georgian

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8118% / 0.01811797
78.6 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C
19.8 Scandinavian
1.6 Baltic

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01835395 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.01889498 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C
0.01948981 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.02105640 British_Islands
0.02309916 English
0.02335785 Scandinavian
0.02773936 German:B
0.03442053 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.04012786 German
0.04561437 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.05459555 French:Center
0.06396227 French:France_Sud-Est
0.06828235 Slav
0.07257171 Balkan
0.07845594 French:France_Sud-Ouest
0.08034781 Iberian:North_Iberia
0.08166587 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.08270769 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
0.08620756 Iberian:Center
0.08750531 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.08765739 Balkan:B
0.08934316 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.09029460 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.09128279 Baltic
0.09586969 Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B

gixajo
08-08-2020, 11:49 PM
T,,,,,,,,,,

Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC is a new reference, the problem is that I forgot to write all the exact references used.

It´s the first "new generation" customized reference, the idea is use the same method to change all the references i made, and update all to the same level.

Pedro Ruben
08-08-2020, 11:49 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.6188% / 0.01618832
55.4 Iberian:Center
17.8 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
15.6 NorthWest_Italian_B
9.0 Berber
2.2 SSA:A

RyoHazuki
08-09-2020, 12:06 AM
By default this is what I get due to the pull I get with the English samples.
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.7267% / 0.02726714
96.4 English
2.6 Yemenite
1.0 SSA

gixajo
08-09-2020, 12:19 AM
By default this is what I get due to the pull I get with the English samples.
A


Target: Pedro_scaled
[:A

But the game consists of using less than 5 references, including in those 5 a maximum of 2 from the same country, not run the model with all the 45 references.

RyoHazuki
08-09-2020, 12:22 AM
But the game consists of using less than 5 references, including in those 5 a maximum of 2 from the same country, not run the model with all the 45 references.

Running the whole model meets those parameters, so I'll remove these closest ones and handpick the next closest ones

RyoHazuki
08-09-2020, 12:26 AM
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 3.7981% / 0.03798060
92.2 French:France_Nord-Ouest
6.4 Baltic
1.4 Berber

Dr_Maul
08-09-2020, 12:28 AM
Well this was easy

Target: DrMaul
Distance: 1.4241% / 0.01424107
99.2 Iran
0.8 MiddleEast

Coastal Elite
08-09-2020, 12:41 AM
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 1.5398% / 0.01539833
35.2 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
26.8 Scandinavian
19.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
12.0 Balkan
7.0 Georgian

Pedro Ruben
08-09-2020, 12:48 AM
But the game consists of using less than 5 references, including in those 5 a maximum of 2 from the same country, not run the model with all the 45 references.

I only made these 5 references. They were the ones that gave me the shortest distances. I tried with all the Iberian references separately.
If I add more Amerindian, Baltic and Arabian I get smaller distances.

gixajo
08-09-2020, 12:49 AM
I don´t know if you are using 5 or 45 references...:picard1:

gixajo
08-09-2020, 12:50 AM
I only made these 5 references. They were the ones that gave me the shortest distances. I tried with all the Iberian references separately.
If I add more Amerindian, Baltic and Arabian I get smaller distances.

You can take 2 Iberian references if you want.

RyoHazuki
08-09-2020, 01:57 AM
I don´t know if you are using 5 or 45 references...:picard1:

I only picked 3

Defcon2
08-09-2020, 08:42 AM
This is the best fit I have, I would only be missing the Chinese reference due to having distant Chinese ancestry.

https://i.imgur.com/pbIoLbt.png

Rocinante
08-09-2020, 09:14 AM
I made one with 4 references:

Distance: 2.9562% / 0.02956250
65.6 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
23.0 Italian:South_Italian:Sicilian
7.8 Baltic
3.6 Berber

Defcon2
08-09-2020, 09:24 AM
I made one with 4 references:

Distance: 2.9562% / 0.02956250
65.6 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
23.0 Italian:South_Italian:Sicilian
7.8 Baltic
3.6 Berber

This is the best fit:

Target: Rocinante_scaled
Distance: 2.7547% / 0.02754736
37.6 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
25.6 French:Center
19.8 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
9.8 Berber
7.2 Greek:Islander

One piece of information, if Iberians had 25% Roman ancestry, we should obtain a not inconsiderable percentage of Greek, right?

At least it happens to you and you have a confirmed Sicilian portion.

Rocinante
08-09-2020, 09:31 AM
This is the best fit:

Target: Rocinante_scaled
Distance: 2.7547% / 0.02754736
37.6 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
25.6 French:Center
19.8 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
9.8 Berber
7.2 Greek:Islander

One piece of information, if Iberians had 25% Roman ancestry, we should obtain a not inconsiderable percentage of Greek, right?

At least it happens to you and you have a confirmed Sicilian portion.

That result is the one i posted first, is actually my best just using 5 populations. Indeed it is confirmed the sicilian, scoring greek islander and extra berber, i guess.

Defcon2
08-09-2020, 09:37 AM
That result is the one i posted first, is actually my best just using 5 populations. Indeed it is confirmed the sicilian, scoring greek islander and extra berber, i guess.

I get up to 25% ancient Roman but the Greek percentage is non-existent, which seems strange to me. This happens to me when I use your best references (I have added the two Greeks but it doesn't make a difference).

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.1961% / 0.03196147
89.8 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
5.0 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
3.8 Berber
1.4 French:Center

Rocinante
08-09-2020, 09:52 AM
I get up to 25% ancient Roman but the Greek percentage is non-existent, which seems strange to me. This happens to me when I use your best references (I have added the two Greeks but it doesn't make a difference).

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.1961% / 0.03196147
89.8 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
5.0 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
3.8 Berber
1.4 French:Center

That´s because you are pure spanish, i guess. The greek i am scoring is islander, different that mainland greek and not even saying thessalians that are part slavs, so is actually trying to polarizing my MENA, which is around 6~7% by aDNA.

Defcon2
08-09-2020, 10:07 AM
That´s because you are pure spanish, i guess. The greek i am scoring is islander, different that mainland greek and not even saying thessalians that are part slavs, so is actually trying to polarizing my MENA, which is around 6~7% by aDNA.

Whether it is continental or island Greek does not make a difference, normally the calculation chooses the most extreme reference that it finds but that indicated you Hellenic ancestry due to your real Sicilian.

In ancient I get 23% Roman, but that should give me some Greek score with current references I think. That happens with the Berber, that this ancient inheritance received is reflected.

Target: Juan
Distance: 2.1707% / 0.02170731 | ADC: 0.25x
67.0 Celt+Iberia
22.8 Roman_Imperial
7.6 North_African
2.6 Germanic_Migration

Rocinante
08-09-2020, 10:23 AM
Whether it is continental or island Greek does not make a difference, normally the calculation chooses the most extreme reference that it finds but that indicated you Hellenic ancestry due to your real Sicilian.

In ancient I get 23% Roman, but that should give me some Greek score with current references I think. That happens with the Berber, that this ancient inheritance received is reflected.

Target: Juan
Distance: 2.1707% / 0.02170731 | ADC: 0.25x
67.0 Celt+Iberia
22.8 Roman_Imperial
7.6 North_African
2.6 Germanic_Migration

Well, there is a decent diference between a greek islander and a thessalian, but i understood your point. I agree.

gixajo
08-09-2020, 10:33 AM
This is the best fit I have, I would only be missing the Chinese reference due to having distant Chinese ancestry.

https://i.imgur.com/pbIoLbt.png

¿No coges ninguna referencia Ibérica? Puedes usar hasta dos de ellas .

Defcon2
08-09-2020, 10:40 AM
¿No coges ninguna referencia Ibérica? Puedes usar hasta dos de ellas .

Las utilicé todas pero el cálculo no recoge ninguna referencia ibérica como se ve abajo de la imagen (sources:45), pero el resultado es coherente.

Basque + Liguria = Iberian.

mitalit
08-09-2020, 11:27 AM
I can model myself with only 1

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.8608% / 0.02860795
100.0 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia

I know what is the game about but using the full calculator my distances are very good. it's a very good calculator.

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 0.0230% / 0.02297134
49.8 Iberian
41.0 French
4.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
2.4 Georgian
1.8 Berber
1.0 Chinese

Luso
08-09-2020, 05:26 PM
Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 2.1610% / 0.02161022
72.8 Iberian
11.4 Italian
9.6 French
4.6 Berber
1.6 SSA





Iberian:Center,0.11164140,0.14594010,0.04041465,-0.00269165,0.04294360,-0.00147585,-0.00171355,0.00317290,0.02653685,0.03157990,-0.00221925,0.00826750,-0.01368300,-0.01220250,0.01127050,-0.00380075,-0.00640495,-0.00096065,-0.00232535,-0.00149035,0.00287500,0.00028850,0.00013350,-0.00322815,-0.00191590
Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B,0.12088005,0.14803870, 0.02668133,-0.01301690,0.03185970,-0.00463645,0.00173313,0.00075578,0.00955653,0.0267 6138,-0.00346693,0.00623440,-0.01254318,-0.00359883,-0.00175085,-0.00680175,-0.00355968,0.00073808,0.00363588,-0.00318288,-0.00152863,0.00101390,-0.00082878,0.00284960,0.00022458
Berber,-0.06548320,0.13410613,-0.00816420,-0.07538218,0.02581348,-0.03472953,-0.02944445,0.00831648,0.06752790,0.02796198,0.0070 7855,-0.00796418,0.02308645,-0.01552258,0.01677808,-0.01294335,-0.00285148,-0.02166338,-0.04415378,0.01019313,-0.01565483,-0.03933808,0.02467100,-0.00293920,0.00493865
French:France_Sud-Ouest,0.12711605,0.14840510,0.05239550,0.01084125, 0.05355055,0.00258965,-0.00057070,0.00279880,0.02911845,0.03993185,-0.00802325,0.00885285,-0.02141455,-0.01379480,0.01179605,0.00041470,-0.00851035,0.00240975,-0.00025055,-0.00125140,0.00757405,0.00082770,-0.00695215,-0.00836335,-0.00067410
SSA:A,-0.55687967,0.06753267,0.00828100,-0.00197833,-0.00047466,-0.00003500,-0.01680300,0.02377800,0.01856900,-0.02692533,-0.00502067,0.00591333,-0.01327400,0.00153100,-0.00610700,0.00092800,0.00531300,-0.00194267,0.00208467,-0.00411667,0.00054600,-0.00162833,-0.00365633,-0.00061267,0.00158167

gixajo
08-09-2020, 05:30 PM
I can model myself with only 1

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.8608% / 0.02860795
100.0 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia

I know what is the game about but using the full calculator my distances are very good. it's a very good calculator.

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 0.0230% / 0.02297134
49.8 Iberian
41.0 French
4.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
2.4 Georgian
1.8 Berber
1.0 Chinese



No hagas trampas, eh?

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 0.0230% / 0.02297134
49.8 Iberian
41.0 French
4.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
2.4 Georgian
1.8 Berber
1.0 Chinese

Götterfunke
08-09-2020, 05:34 PM
this is too high iq for me, im out

mitalit
08-09-2020, 06:26 PM
No hagas trampas, eh?

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 0.0230% / 0.02297134
49.8 Iberian
41.0 French
4.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
2.4 Georgian
1.8 Berber
1.0 Chinese

Te juro que me salia eso, me sorprendió tanto que lo puse. Algo haria mal pero me salia eso y mire si los datos estaban bien y todo parecia correcto.
Ahora me sale esto
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.2971% / 0.02297143
50.0 Iberian
40.6 French
4.2 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
2.4 Georgian
1.8 Berber
1.0 Chinese

Vishap
08-09-2020, 07:14 PM
Distance to: Vishap
0.03104319 Iran
0.05035284 Armenian
0.06157126 Turkish
0.07695098 Greek:Islander
0.09264377 Palestinian/Jewish

Target: Vishap
Distance: 1.9354% / 0.01935391
55.2 Iran
20.0 Armenian
16.8 Turkish
5.0 Greek
3.0 Palestinian/Jewish

marco
08-09-2020, 07:28 PM
Distance: 1.5513% / 0.01551291
38.6 Moroccan_North
38.4 Moroccan
17.6 Middle_East:Saudi
5.4 Africa_West:Esan_Nigeria

I done it in four

Chris596
08-09-2020, 07:59 PM
Well I have an easy task here since most of my ancestry is from the Balkans:

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 2.3853% / 0.02385341
100.0 Balkan

But let's see what I can do with 4 samples, based on everything I know so far :) :

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 2.0785% / 0.02078550
82.0 Balkan
12.0 Slav
4.2 Armenian
1.8 Chinese

I used Chinese instead of Turkic because that usually works better for me.

My known ancestry (this is for sure):

-Hungarian (Balkan and Slavic)
-Hungarian Szekely (Balkan, Slavic and East Asian/Turkic like)
-Armenian (West Asian)

InfamousAngel99
08-09-2020, 09:57 PM
Distance: 0.2643% / 0.00264349
58.6 British_Islands
32.0 German
5.8 Scandinavian
2.4 Balkan
1.2 French

gixajo
08-09-2020, 10:07 PM
Distance: 0.2643% / 0.00264349
58.6 British_Islands
32.0 German
5.8 Scandinavian
2.4 Balkan
1.2 French


For a moment I was scared to see your distance, until I read your signature.:picard1:

celticdragongod
08-10-2020, 12:31 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01742123 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.01748371 British_Islands
0.01829046 English
0.02272366 Scandinavian
0.06542519 Slav

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7395% / 0.01739498 | ADC: 2x
90.8 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
9.2 British_Islands

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7064% / 0.01706399 | ADC: 1x
53.2 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
42.0 British_Islands
4.8 Scandinavian

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6397% / 0.01639704 | ADC: 0.5x
77.0 British_Islands
23.0 Scandinavian

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6348% / 0.01634832 | ADC: 0.25x
62.0 British_Islands
27.6 Scandinavian
10.4 English

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6332% / 0.01633165
35.2 English
27.0 Scandinavian
20.4 British_Islands
16.2 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
1.2 Slav

JohnnyP
08-10-2020, 12:52 AM
Target: Father
Distance: 2.8903% / 0.02890323 | ADC: 0.25x
45.0 Italian
28.4 Greek
26.6 Baltic

Target: Father
Distance: 2.8361% / 0.02836086
37.8 Greek
33.0 Italian
29.2 Baltic

But better fit he have with Albanian +
Without "Slav"
Target: Father
Distance: 2.3599% / 0.02359881
75.2 Albanian
24.8 Baltic

Target: Father
Distance: 2.3541% / 0.02354137
70.0 Albanian
20.6 Slav
8.2 Baltic
1.2 Yemenite

alnortedelsur
08-11-2020, 06:09 AM
Wow, I came up with something pretty accurate for me. I on purpose chose references corresponding with my known ancestry. In this case I chose North-eastern Spain, south eastern Spain, Mainland southern Italy, Amerindian, and one of the two SSA references, and this is what I got:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.3213% / 0.02321282
71.8 Iberian
15.4 Italian
7.6 Amerindian
5.2 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.4925% / 0.02492462 | ADC: 0.25x
75.8 Iberian
13.2 Italian
6.6 Amerindian
4.4 SSA

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.06949620 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.07502255 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.09130050 Italian:South_Italian:Mainland
0.57103004 Amerindian
0.63478943 SSA:A

Not that bad. Pretty close to my 23andme and Ancestry DNA results in some way or another.

I'm going to keep experimenting with other two Spanish regions (since most of my background is Spanish) and other Italian regions, to see if I could get shorter distances.

alnortedelsur
08-11-2020, 06:18 AM
Another one:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.2145% / 0.02214517
63.2 Iberian
24.2 Italian
7.6 Amerindian
5.0 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.4052% / 0.02405223 | ADC: 0.25x
68.6 Iberian
20.4 Italian
6.8 Amerindian
4.2 SSA

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.06949620 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.07080835 Iberian:Center
0.08287916 Italian:Center
0.57103004 Amerindian
0.70151842 SSA:B

Luso
08-11-2020, 06:20 AM
Updated. This one seems to be the best for me so far:

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 2.1360% / 0.02136006
83.0 Iberian
7.0 Italian
5.6 Berber
3.4 Baltic
1.0 SSA



Iberian:Center,0.11164140,0.14594010,0.04041465,-0.00269165,0.04294360,-0.00147585,-0.00171355,0.00317290,0.02653685,0.03157990,-0.00221925,0.00826750,-0.01368300,-0.01220250,0.01127050,-0.00380075,-0.00640495,-0.00096065,-0.00232535,-0.00149035,0.00287500,0.00028850,0.00013350,-0.00322815,-0.00191590
Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B,0.12088005,0.14803870, 0.02668133,-0.01301690,0.03185970,-0.00463645,0.00173313,0.00075578,0.00955653,0.0267 6138,-0.00346693,0.00623440,-0.01254318,-0.00359883,-0.00175085,-0.00680175,-0.00355968,0.00073808,0.00363588,-0.00318288,-0.00152863,0.00101390,-0.00082878,0.00284960,0.00022458
Baltic,0.13419740,0.11830925,0.08826510,0.08638635 ,0.04299255,0.03189105,0.01198555,0.01426095,-0.00087945,-0.03266560,-0.00175390,-0.01308335,0.02134025,0.02636855,-0.00861145,0.00288380,0.00146670,-0.00143170,0.00147695,0.00325795,-0.00070510,-0.00379000,0.00666760,-0.00428965,0.00284405
Berber,-0.06548320,0.13410613,-0.00816420,-0.07538218,0.02581348,-0.03472953,-0.02944445,0.00831648,0.06752790,0.02796198,0.0070 7855,-0.00796418,0.02308645,-0.01552258,0.01677808,-0.01294335,-0.00285148,-0.02166338,-0.04415378,0.01019313,-0.01565483,-0.03933808,0.02467100,-0.00293920,0.00493865
SSA:B,-0.6242421,0.0639936,0.0215130,0.0145326,0.0028094, 0.0117579,-0.0161961,0.0216721,-0.0308661,0.0149323,0.0037054,0.0018871,-0.0006642,0.0019913,-0.0064682,0.0041677,-0.0048993,0.0149827,-0.0066659,0.0019943,0.0010692,0.0020188,0.0011803, 0.0001642,0.0012754

alnortedelsur
08-11-2020, 06:27 AM
In this one, out of curiosity, I chose two Italian references and only a Spanish reference:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.3213% / 0.02321282
71.8 Iberian
15.4 Italian
7.6 Amerindian
5.2 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.4925% / 0.02492462 | ADC: 0.25x
75.8 Iberian
13.2 Italian
6.6 Amerindian
4.4 SSA

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.06949620 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.08287916 Italian:Center
0.09130050 Italian:South_Italian:Mainland
0.57103004 Amerindian
0.63478943 SSA:A

alnortedelsur
08-11-2020, 06:36 AM
This one makes sense with my Amerindian and SSA, (though they're a bit high for me), but not much on my European side, since on ADC:0 I come up being more Italian than Spanish:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.2574% / 0.02257408
45.8 Iberian
40.8 Italian
7.4 Amerindian
6.0 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.4336% / 0.02433554 | ADC: 0.25x
59.0 Iberian
29.4 Italian
6.6 Amerindian
5.0 SSA

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.06949620 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.07656974 Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B
0.08287916 Italian:Center
0.57103004 Amerindian
0.63478943 SSA:A

alnortedelsur
08-11-2020, 06:51 AM
This is the best one for me, so far (shortest distances):

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.1974% / 0.02197407
47.6 Iberian
39.2 Italian
7.6 Amerindian
5.6 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.4028% / 0.02402795 | ADC: 0.25x
65.0 Iberian
23.8 Italian
6.8 Amerindian
4.4 SSA

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.06693524 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.06724636 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.07656974 Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B
0.57103004 Amerindian
0.63478943 SSA:A

Vojnik
08-11-2020, 06:58 AM
Target: Vojnik_scaled
Distance: 1.7046% / 0.01704622


67.8 Balkan
32.2 Greek

And the 5 i chose:


<tbody>
Distance to:
Vojnik_scaled


0.01873999
Balkan:B


0.03469888
Balkan


0.05976666
Greek


0.09045328
Slav


0.13214076
MiddleEast


</tbody>

Vojnik
08-11-2020, 07:06 AM
I'm quite central shifted. These are all the references.


<tbody>
Distance to:
Vojnik_scaled


0.01873999
Balkan:B


0.03399880
Italian:NorthEast_Italian


0.03469888
Balkan


0.04084074
Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B


0.04560764
Italian:Center


0.05112888
French:France_Sud-Est


0.05552654
French:France:France_Nord-Est


0.05743880
French:Center


0.05976666
Greek


0.06022914
Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia


0.06052932
Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia


0.06064097
Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia


0.06105626
German


0.06157050
Italian:South_Italian:Sicilian


0.06188282
Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia


0.06190220
Iberian:Center


0.06277789
Italian:South_Italian:Mainland


0.06672979
French:France_Nord-Ouest


0.07358691
Iberian:North_Iberia


0.07409497
German:B


0.07994604
French:France_Sud-Ouest


0.08208175
English


0.08309605
British_Islands


0.08425657
Irish/Scottish/Welsh


0.08648576
Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C


0.08880470
Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC


0.09045328
Slav


0.09241157
Scandinavian


0.09264988
Greek:Islander


0.11679291
Turkish


0.12876517
Armenian


0.12914218
Palestinian/Jewish


0.13144072
Baltic


0.13214076
MiddleEast


0.13902580
Iran


0.13962318
Georgian


0.20651925
Arabian


0.20729373
Yemenite


0.21454328
Turkic


0.23869438
Berber


0.31580489
India


0.61058933
Chinese


0.61768847
Amerindian


0.68595013
SSA:A


0.75270707
SSA:B

</tbody>

Thracian
08-11-2020, 02:39 PM
Target: Thracian_scaled
Distance: 2.0698% / 0.02069845 | ADC: 0.25x
62.4 Balkan
14.6 Greek
13.8 Iran
9.2 Turkic

alnortedelsur
08-11-2020, 05:27 PM
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.3242% / 0.02324166
68.4 Iberian
19.0 Italian
7.6 Amerindian
5.0 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.4823% / 0.02482335 | ADC: 0.25x
76.4 Iberian
12.6 Italian
6.8 Amerindian
4.2 SSA

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.06724636 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.08287916 Italian:Center
0.10340929 German:B
0.57103004 Amerindian
0.63478943 SSA:A

alnortedelsur
08-11-2020, 05:32 PM
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.3562% / 0.02356220
66.0 Iberian
20.8 Italian
7.6 Amerindian
5.6 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.5381% / 0.02538063 | ADC: 0.25x
73.0 Iberian
15.8 Italian
6.6 Amerindian
4.6 SSA

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.06949620 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.08287916 Italian:Center
0.09892887 German
0.57103004 Amerindian
0.63478943 SSA:A

Kamal900
08-11-2020, 05:33 PM
Using all of the references:

Distance to: Moody_scaled
0.02016494 MiddleEast
0.04629034 Palestinian/Jewish
0.05498981 Greek:Islander
0.06959370 Armenian
0.07978984 Italian:South_Italian:Mainland
0.07994052 Greek
0.08145662 Iran
0.08225459 Italian:South_Italian:Sicilian
0.09625163 Turkish
0.09825393 Georgian
0.10370751 Italian:Center
0.11097277 Arabian
0.11202216 Yemenite
0.12800293 Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B
0.13221765 Balkan:B
0.13869076 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.13922441 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
0.14118696 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.14236567 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.14537461 Iberian:Center
0.15127433 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.15309688 Balkan
0.15470399 French:France_Sud-Est
0.16249126 Iberian:North_Iberia
0.16418104 French:Center

Target: Moody_scaled
Distance: 1.3812% / 0.01381201
31.4 Armenian
15.6 Yemenite
13.2 Palestinian/Jewish
12.8 Iran
12.0 Berber
8.0 Italian
5.6 MiddleEast
0.8 India
0.4 Chinese
0.2 SSA

Only five:

Distance to: Moody_scaled
0.04629034 Palestinian/Jewish
0.07994052 Greek
0.11097277 Arabian
0.17912035 Berber
0.63715413 SSA:A

Target: Moody_scaled
Distance: 3.4239% / 0.03423879
60.2 Palestinian/Jewish
25.2 Greek
10.6 Arabian
4.0 SSA

calxpal
08-12-2020, 01:45 AM
Distance to: cpalscaled
0.04131567 Scandinavian
0.04436785 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.04445033 French:Center
0.04507456 Balkan
0.11281131 Italian:South_Italian:Sicilian

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.6393% / 0.02639278
48.6 Scandinavian
39.0 Balkan
12.4 French

That was fun =)

alnortedelsur
08-12-2020, 06:57 AM
I have broken the thread rules this time, and playing with my coordinates, I selected the Amerindian reference, all the Iberian references, all the Italian references, all German and Scandinavian references, and the two SSA references, and interestingly, with this combination I have got the shortest distance so far:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.1040% / 0.02104028
57.2 Iberian
30.0 Italian
7.6 Amerindian
5.2 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.3916% / 0.02391561 | ADC: 0.25x
71.4 Iberian
18.4 Italian
6.6 Amerindian
3.6 SSA

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.06693524 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.06724636 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.06949620 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.07080835 Iberian:Center
0.07502255 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.07656974 Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B
0.08112900 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
0.08287916 Italian:Center
0.08291970 Italian:South_Italian:Sicilian
0.08348527 Iberian:North_Iberia
0.09130050 Italian:South_Italian:Mainland
0.09892887 German
0.10340929 German:B
0.11748037 Scandinavian
0.57103004 Amerindian
0.63478943 SSA:A
0.70151842 SSA:B

alnortedelsur
08-12-2020, 07:09 AM
When I add all European references plus the Amerindian and the two SSA references, I get this:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.1040% / 0.02104028
57.2 Iberian
30.0 Italian
7.6 Amerindian
5.2 SSA

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.3916% / 0.02391561 | ADC: 0.25x
71.4 Iberian
18.4 Italian
6.6 Amerindian
3.6 SSA

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.06693524 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.06724636 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.06949620 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.07080835 Iberian:Center
0.07502255 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.07656974 Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B
0.08112900 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
0.08198705 French:France_Sud-Est
0.08287916 Italian:Center
0.08291970 Italian:South_Italian:Sicilian
0.08348527 Iberian:North_Iberia
0.08406091 Balkan:B
0.08662988 French:Center
0.08888143 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.09081766 Balkan
0.09130050 Italian:South_Italian:Mainland
0.09154898 French:France_Sud-Ouest
0.09483738 Greek
0.09602837 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.09892887 German
0.10340929 German:B
0.10621017 English
0.10686584 British_Islands
0.10764150 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.10860341 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C

alnortedelsur
08-12-2020, 07:15 AM
When I use ALL the references, I get this:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 1.8600% / 0.01860048
36.0 Iberian
27.2 Italian
10.8 Berber
7.6 Amerindian
7.6 French
5.6 Georgian
3.4 SSA
1.8 Slav

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.06693524 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.06724636 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.06949620 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.07080835 Iberian:Center
0.07502255 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.07656974 Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B
0.08112900 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
0.08198705 French:France_Sud-Est
0.08287916 Italian:Center
0.08291970 Italian:South_Italian:Sicilian
0.08348527 Iberian:North_Iberia
0.08406091 Balkan:B
0.08662988 French:Center
0.08888143 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.09081766 Balkan
0.09130050 Italian:South_Italian:Mainland
0.09154898 French:France_Sud-Ouest
0.09483738 Greek
0.09602837 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.09892887 German
0.10340929 German:B
0.10621017 English
0.10686584 British_Islands
0.10764150 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.10860341 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C

Adamg
08-12-2020, 03:36 PM
Target: adamg
Distance: 1.3711% / 0.01371078
30.2 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
21.4 Slav
17.0 Baltic
17.0 German
7.0 French
4.2 Palestinian/Jewish
2.0 Armenian
0.8 Greek
0.4 India

Graham
08-12-2020, 07:33 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/wT4ft81N/image.png

https://i.postimg.cc/Dwbg8WkV/image.png

firemonkey
08-13-2020, 03:23 PM
Target: Tim_G_scaled
Distance: 1.6748% / 0.01674810
91.2 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
8.6 Scandinavian
0.2 English

Dušan
04-18-2023, 05:55 PM
Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.4547% / 0.01454720
80.8 Balkan
19.0 Slav
0.2 Chinese



With Balkan removed:


Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.7036% / 0.01703612
60.2 Slav
20.8 Greek
18.6 Italian
0.4 Chinese

Hulu
04-18-2023, 06:08 PM
Target: Hulu_scaled
Distance: 3.2319% / 0.03231906
61.2 Italian
22.6 Balkan
15.6 Greek
0.6 Berber

Distance to: Hulu_scaled
0.03615025 Italian:Center
0.04009910 Italian:South_Italian:Mainland
0.04016554 Greek
0.04371280 Italian:South_Italian:Sicilian
0.05070107 Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B
0.05420998 Balkan:B
0.05542395 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
0.06614951 Greek:Islander
0.06993143 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.07035409 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.07160219 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.07397164 Balkan
0.07454183 Iberian:Center
0.07619026 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.07665733 French:France_Sud-Est
0.08630714 French:Center
0.08774583 Iberian:North_Iberia
0.09039662 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.09647954 French:France_Sud-Ouest
0.10059076 German
0.10083259 Palestinian/Jewish
0.10283595 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.11045995 Turkish
0.11180808 MiddleEast
0.11267709 German:B

Annihilus
04-18-2023, 06:13 PM
5 samples reduced to 3

Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 0.9187% / 0.00918705 | R3P
45.8 Armenian
40.2 Balkan
14.0 Turkish

all samples reduced to 3

Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 0.8433% / 0.00843264 | R3P
52.0 Armenian
42.2 Balkan
5.8 Turkic

Kriptc06
04-18-2023, 06:20 PM
Target: Kriptsov
Distance: 1.8231% / 0.01823103
47.6 Iberian
26.8 Balkan
12.8 Amerindian
9.8 SSA
3.0 Turkish

Beowulf
04-18-2023, 06:31 PM
Target: Ivorix
Distance: 0.6492% / 0.00649177
52.8 Iberian
28.6 French
17.0 Italian
1.4 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.2 Slav

Jingle Bell
04-18-2023, 07:16 PM
Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 2.6154% / 0.02615367 | R5P
45.6 SSA:B
32.6 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
12.2 Iberian:North_Iberia
5.0 Arabian
2.6 Amerindian
2.0 Iran


Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 2.8095% / 0.02809489 | R3P
51.0 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
45.8 SSA:B
2.8 Amerindian
0.4 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia

Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 3.2813% / 0.03281306
53.8 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
46.2 SSA:B

Eurafricanid
04-18-2023, 08:25 PM
This is the best I could do due to how badly the SSA refferences matched me.

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 2.0764% / 0.02076429 | R5P
47.6 SSA:B
29.6 French:France_Sud-Ouest
17.4 Italian:Center
3.0 Amerindian
2.4 Armenian


IK, I'm not supposed to use other refferences, but, I just wanted to try it!

Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 1.7675% / 0.01767477 | R5P
46.4 SSA:Tikar_South
27.0 French:France_Sud-Ouest
14.6 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
8.8 MiddleEast
3.2 Amerindian

Lemminkäinen
04-18-2023, 08:31 PM
Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 1.4258% / 0.01425834
56.8 Baltic
25.8 Scandinavian
12.6 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
3.0 Chinese
1.2 Amerindian
0.6 India

This was easy, only Irish/Scottish/Welsh was multiple.

Jana
04-18-2023, 09:35 PM
Target: Feiichy_scaled
Distance: 0.0306% / 0.03055652

58.7 Slav
37.7 Italian
3.2 Georgian
0.4 Chinese

rothaer
04-18-2023, 09:56 PM
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.3415% / 0.01341472 | R3P
38.4 Scandinavian
37.2 Baltic
24.4 Iberian

Interesting that I become modeled that good without Slav. All references are exaggerated ones and the fit is okay.

HelloGuys
04-18-2023, 10:00 PM
Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 3.4882% / 0.03488212
39.4 Amerindian
33.6 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
19.8 Italian:Center
4.2 Berber
3.0 SSA:B

axel.aleman
04-18-2023, 11:00 PM
Target: Axel_scaled
Distance: 4.0991% / 0.04099082
41.8 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
25.4 SSA:B
22.8 Amerindian
10.0 Chinese

Cual referencia amerindia usaste?
En mi caso creo que Mayan o Yupka serian las ideales

axel.aleman
04-18-2023, 11:03 PM
Target: Axel_scaled
Distance: 3.9910% / 0.03990974
25.6 SSA:B
23.6 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
22.8 Amerindian
18.2 Italian:Center
9.8 Chinese

MandM
04-19-2023, 06:52 AM
Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.3617% / 0.02361692
79.0 Balkan
15.0 Greek
4.8 Italian
1.2 Georgian

Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.3766% / 0.02376647 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.6 Balkan:B
31.0 Balkan
4.4 Italian:NorthEast_Italian

mariusz99
04-19-2023, 10:56 AM
Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 2.1679% / 0.02167930
91.2 Slav
8.0 German
0.8 Turkic

Very good

Hulu
04-19-2023, 02:02 PM
Target: Feiichy_scaled
Distance: 0.0306% / 0.03055652

58.7 Slav
37.7 Italian
3.2 Georgian
0.4 Chinese

Did you remove Balkan?

Balkan here clearly references a Balkan slav (yugoslav most likely) so I find it strange that you don't have it.

alexmegas777
04-19-2023, 02:08 PM
Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
0.02913393 Balkan
0.03251448 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
0.07353335 Greek
0.08170970 Slav
0.14675914 MiddleEast

Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 2.1494% / 0.02149401
60.8 Balkan
27.4 Italian
11.8 Greek

Kenshiro
10-31-2023, 08:02 AM
Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.2229% / 0.02222927 | R5P
44.0 Italian:South_Italian:Mainland
37.8 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
7.6 Georgian
5.6 Turkish
5.0 Balkan

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.2197% / 0.02219672 | R4P
46.6 Italian:South_Italian:Mainland
37.0 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
8.6 Georgian
4.4 Balkan
2.4 Turkic
1.0 Balkan:B

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.2280% / 0.02228033 | R3P
44.6 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
40.8 Italian:South_Italian:Mainland
8.2 Georgian
6.4 Turkish

Norrsken
10-31-2023, 08:15 AM
Target: Norrsken_scaled
Distance: 2.5455% / 0.02545460
70.0 Scandinavian
29.4 Slav
0.6 Turkic

Albannach
10-31-2023, 08:46 AM
I tried modeling myself with 5 different samples but I still ended up 100% insular Celt.

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 1.4879% / 0.01487919
100.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.01487919 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.02172936 English
0.02669593 Scandinavian
0.03731456 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.04187458 German

cass
10-31-2023, 08:14 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 1.0443% / 0.01044336
63.4 Slav
25.4 German:B
11.2 Scandinavian


Target: cass
Distance: 1.0481% / 0.01048079
60.2 Slav
22.6 Scandinavian
17.2 German

Target: cass
Distance: 1.0695% / 0.01069506
64.4 Slav
35.6 German:B


Target: cass
Distance: 1.1701% / 0.01170136
64.8 Slav
35.2 Scandinavian

Target: cass
Distance: 1.2924% / 0.01292376
63.0 Slav
37.0 German

Target: cass
Distance: 2.2621% / 0.02262124
100.0 Slav

Distance to: cass
0.02262124 Slav
0.03410062 German
0.03749564 German:B
0.03760553 Scandinavian
0.04887006 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.04903361 British_Islands
0.04920953 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.04946704 English
0.04963898 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C
0.05106079 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.05351714 Balkan
0.05485595 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.05510826 Baltic
0.06717748 French:Center
0.07424462 French:France_Sud-Est
0.07541409 Balkan:B
0.08398572 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
0.09125047 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.09262925 French:France_Sud-Ouest
0.09535150 Iberian:North_Iberia
0.09583563 Iberian:Center
0.09647722 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.09784986 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.09866132 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.09919555 Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B

noricum
10-31-2023, 08:27 PM
Don't even need 5 ;-)

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.2143% / 0.02214295 | R5P
45.4 Baltic
44.8 Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B
9.8 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC

Xavier727
10-31-2023, 08:28 PM
Distance to: scaled
0.03065814 German:B
0.03086498 Scandinavian
0.03089228 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.03140247 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.03157620 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C
0.03207133 British_Islands
0.03360785 English
0.03472731 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.03710998 German
0.04318590 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.05094448 French:Center
0.05936549 French:France_Sud-Est
0.06541874 Balkan

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.4371% / 0.02487099
45.4 Scandinavian
38.2 French
13.8 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
1.6 Amerindian
0.6 Georgian
0.4 Chinese

qallezan65
11-01-2023, 04:30 AM
Target: qallezan65_scaled
Distance: 0.6986% / 0.00698550
43.0 Palestinian/Jewish
37.6 Iberian
14.6 French
3.4 SSA
1.4 Amerindian

Distance to: qallezan65_scaled
0.07283898 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.08474775 Iberian:North_Iberia
0.08914419 Palestinian/Jewish
0.09261431 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.10303693 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.61377782 Amerindian
0.64593305 SSA:A
0.71374039 SSA:B

JerryS.
11-01-2023, 10:41 PM
Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7445% / 0.01744467
56.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
31.6 German
8.2 Italian
2.8 Greek
1.4 Berber

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7454% / 0.01745432 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.6 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
36.2 German
10.0 Italian
1.2 Berber

Kenshiro
12-04-2024, 02:42 AM
Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.2994% / 0.02299402 | ADC: 0.5x RC
48.4 Greek
36.4 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
8.4 Turkish
6.8 Italian:Center

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.2549% / 0.02254899 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.4 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
34.0 Greek
16.0 Italian:Center
6.4 Turkish
6.2 Georgian

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.2247% / 0.02224746
43.4 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
38.2 Italian:South_Italian:Mainland
8.8 Georgian
6.8 Greek
2.8 Turkic

ScandinavianCelt
12-04-2024, 02:56 AM
Target: Brad_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 1.8126% / 0.01812642
58.4 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
22.6 Scandinavian
13.2 Slav
3.4 India
2.4 Berber

Target: Brad_Official_Ave_Scaled
Distance: 2.4512% / 0.02451203 | ADC: 2x RC
60.0 Scandinavian
40.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC

unmoggable
12-04-2024, 04:21 AM
Target: unmoggable
Distance: 0.6051% / 0.00605065
72.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
23.8 German
4.2 Georgian

0.01470733 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.02146650 German
0.18185585 Georgian

Tacitus
12-04-2024, 11:59 AM
Target: Tacitus_G25sim
Distance: 1.7721% / 0.01772074
64.4 Greek:Islander
35.6 Iberian:Center

Fabricius
12-04-2024, 05:03 PM
With images to show the number of samples (maximum 5).

The first result with the shortest distance. Unreal, I don't have Italian grandparents.
https://i.imgur.com/6lcgXAv.png

The second result with the short distance. Unreal, I don't have a Balkan grandpa.
https://i.imgur.com/JtmKRqQ.png

The shortest realistic distance.
https://i.imgur.com/9xnS8Xg.png

Baltic-german hight but realistic.
https://i.imgur.com/uj9iaCe.png

Good Slavic (possible interpretation), but very high Italian. I have some Italian ancestors, but not Grandma.
https://i.imgur.com/u0glrTo.png

Italian seems high, but it is possible; "Slavic" is probably a misinterpretation of Baltic-German + Ashkenazi Jew (I've never heard about Slavic ancestors), the percentage is reasonable.
https://i.imgur.com/lQp6z38.png

Perfect Iberian and Baltic-German, but it is the greatest distance.
https://i.imgur.com/sLORNFw.png

Fabricius
12-04-2024, 05:12 PM
But the game consists of using less than 5 references, including in those 5 a maximum of 2 from the same country, not run the model with all the 45 references.

I think few took the game manual.
:picard1:
XD

EasternLusitanian
12-04-2024, 07:30 PM
It is not that close, but this is the best distance-number of pops ratio i've been able to get after trying for a while:

Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0184% / 0.01836557
83.8 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
11.5 Italian:Center
4.7 Berber

Fabricius
12-04-2024, 08:25 PM
...

Good game!
I like it

Here my distances with used population in each attempt:
Distance to: Fabricius_simulated_g25_scaled
0.05297709 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.05316171 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.05745558 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.05821249 Iberian:Center
0.06647203 Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B
0.06703069 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
0.07389365 Iberian:North_Iberia
0.07397502 Balkan
0.07545348 Italian:Center
0.07685279 Italian:South_Italian:Sicilian
0.08229316 German
0.08694041 Italian:South_Italian:Mainland
0.11085832 Slav
0.13036634 MiddleEast
0.14292272 Palestinian/Jewish
0.14501438 Baltic
0.18830889 Berber
0.20348335 Arabian
0.60893875 Amerindian
0.69354704 SSA:B

Albannach
12-04-2024, 08:40 PM
Looks like my family were allergic to foreigners

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 1.4879% / 0.01487919
100.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.01487919 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.02172936 English
0.02669593 Scandinavian
0.03731456 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.04187458 German

EchoWanderer49
12-04-2024, 08:45 PM
Target: H_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.5512% / 0.00551222
51.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
32.2 Scandinavian
9.2 French
4.6 Slav
1.2 Baltic
1.2 Georgian
0.6 Berber

Distance to: H_simulated_g25_scaled
0.01107831 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.01176921 German:B
0.01195102 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C
0.01235916 British_Islands
0.01399858 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.01447234 English
0.01561463 Scandinavian
0.02389530 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.02531379 German
0.03370180 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.04460797 French:Center
0.05380930 French:France_Sud-Est
0.05897583 Slav
0.05920850 Balkan
0.07190118 Italian:NorthEast_Italian
0.07211313 French:France_Sud-Ouest
0.07259301 Iberian:NorthEast_Iberia
0.07307374 Iberian:North_Iberia
0.07555581 Balkan:B
0.07700009 Iberian:Center
0.07807766 Iberian:NorthWest_Iberia
0.08001887 Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia
0.08082199 Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia
0.08580419 Italian:NorthWest_Italian_B
0.08683714 Baltic

ScandinavianCelt
12-05-2024, 11:30 PM
Looks like my family were allergic to foreigners

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 1.4879% / 0.01487919
100.0 Irish/Scottish/Welsh

Distance to: Albannach_scaled
0.01487919 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.02172936 English
0.02669593 Scandinavian
0.03731456 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.04187458 German

Icelandic mtdna, I read, is 70% Gaelic, due to Norse kings in Iceland taking Scottish and Irish ladies back to Iceland and then filtering into Norway and Sweden, and prob other places I haven't read about. I know I get Irish&Scottish from even my Mom, who is a Scandinavian. To the point though, I wonder how many of those Celtic ladies went willingly....if they are indeed "allergic" to foreigners. But the northmen are all a mix of similar groups/nations but in different times. Such a clusterfuck of genetics in Europe. And where did I get this Pashtun from Pakistan? Very odd.

ScandinavianCelt
12-05-2024, 11:44 PM
How some northern samples score against the Source (mine at bottom):

Distance to: Scandinavian
0.01870879 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.02003583 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C
0.02053198 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.02104467 German:B
0.02194323 British_Islands
0.02383546 English
0.03389468 German
0.03630702 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.04585778 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.05509845 Slav

Distance to: Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C
0.00334759 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.00631382 British_Islands
0.00771343 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.00975716 English
0.01803539 German:B
0.02003583 Scandinavian
0.02524011 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.03271873 German
0.03579844 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.04513129 French:Center

Distance to: Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.00771343 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C
0.00863230 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.01052728 British_Islands
0.01318373 English
0.01870879 Scandinavian
0.02021464 German:B
0.02896249 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.03456613 German
0.03886803 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.04830686 French:Center

Distance to: Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.00334759 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C
0.00365239 British_Islands
0.00730478 English
0.00863230 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.01609787 German:B
0.02053198 Scandinavian
0.02268900 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.03057590 German
0.03313764 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.04243900 French:Center

Distance to: British_Islands
0.00365239 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.00365239 English
0.00631382 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C
0.01052728 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.01535258 German:B
0.02142500 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.02194323 Scandinavian
0.02962011 German
0.03119541 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.04034822 French:Center

Distance to: German:B
0.01535258 British_Islands
0.01545774 English
0.01609787 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.01657627 German
0.01803539 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C
0.01990783 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.02021464 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.02104467 Scandinavian
0.02656322 French:France:France_Nord-Est
0.03865873 French:Center

Distance to: Brad_Official_Ave_Scaled
0.02376303 German:B
0.02563330 Scandinavian
0.02650550 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:C
0.02670790 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.02695387 Irish/Scottish/Welsh:TestBC
0.02774596 British_Islands
0.02920691 English
0.03105109 German
0.03456407 French:France_Nord-Ouest
0.04115159 French:France:France_Nord-Est

Pater Patota
12-06-2024, 12:15 AM
Target: PP_scaled
Distance: 0.5147% / 0.00514683 | ADC: 0.25x RC
27.4 Iran
24.0 Turkish
23.4 Armenian
16.4 Georgian
8.8 Irish/Scottish/Welsh

Target: PP_scaled
Distance: 3.0468% / 0.03046802 | ADC: 2x RC
54.0 Iran
46.0 Armenian

majevica
12-06-2024, 12:39 AM
Target: gamemaster
Distance: 2.2885% / 0.02288504
41.2 Baltic
30.2 Greek
28.6 Italian

Fabricius
02-09-2025, 05:49 PM
I think Gixajo's G25 Game should be pinned to the front page of this subforum.
I don't know what criteria is used to pin them, I don't know which user has permission to do so, nor how to do.

It has been hidden in old pages and unfortunately no people have appeared to "up" the thread.

And I also don't know if the samples need adjustments.

But I consider it a great exercise for beginners, because a beginner learns in practice and intuitively some interesting concepts to take advantage of the G25 (if they really follow the rules of the game) all with fun:

1. The “player” starts with a few samples and this teaches him to select and create his own model – if later (after the game) he concludes that must add new samples as suspected, he can add them, and it is better than removing them, I think, because if he uses many references at once the result is bizarre and with a lot of noise (needing to automatically reduce populations or add columns artificially) and removing manually is boring and laborious;
2. He learns to look at the distance of the result (more relevant than isolated distances, I think) and not limit himself to observing the percentages of populations in the result (if a selection increases the distance, I mean something like >3% or even >2%, apparently he is going the wrong way);
3. He learns to balance the number of samples to avoid overlapping (unless overlapping is desirable, as in the case of a known predominant ethnicity);
4. He is forced to make the difficult decision of replacing less probably samples;
5. Lastly, it's really a fun game.

If the beginner believes that he needs to include more samples for greater precision (even if he thinks it is better to limit all samples as belonging to the same ethnicity), or he is not sure which samples are most likely, or he wants to investigate deeply, he can make a more sophisticated model. Then he is no longer a beginner.

Fabricius
02-09-2025, 05:51 PM
I thought I had already made this comment, but revisiting the thread I saw that I forgot.

Beowulf
02-09-2025, 05:57 PM
Target: Ivorix
Distance: 0.6492% / 0.00649177
52.8 Iberian
28.6 French
17.0 Italian
1.4 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.2 Slav

I wanna try it again and see if i can improve these results!



Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0157% / 0.01565756
45.3 Iberian
24.8 English
21.3 Italian
8.6 Slav

References used:





Slav,0.13138390,0.12667805,0.06910955,0.05764665,0 .03918105,0.02150315,0.00872160,0.01108490,-0.00191195,-0.01982615,-0.00299075,-0.00703905,0.01422465,0.02013115,-0.00912990,-0.00082800,0.00311790,-0.00038630,0.00264685,0.00149370,-0.00381375,-0.00329875,0.00617250,-0.00369530,0.00031705
English,0.13102565,0.13839775,0.06157145,0.0435978 0,0.04056560,0.01657980,0.00420955,0.00606750,0.00 587280,0.00632250,-0.00470165,0.00604745,-0.01316735,-0.01029915,0.02068505,0.00336205,-0.01144795,0.00310430,0.00372315,0.00310190,0.0053 7285,0.00363740,-0.00201385,0.01408045,0.00036125
Iberian:SouthEast_Iberia,0.11097733,0.14567500,0.0 3798667,-0.00415933,0.04427033,-0.00425333,-0.00287600,0.00034833,0.02487300,0.03243767,-0.00255833,0.00645767,-0.01361933,-0.01153233,0.00841333,-0.00166133,-0.00373200,-0.00014500,-0.00148333,-0.00060700,0.00447000,-0.00091833,-0.00123267,-0.00407733,0.00092767
Italian:Center,0.11701408,0.14925148,0.00917310,-0.02814708,0.02221933,-0.01003865,0.00044550,-0.00159775,0.00642820,0.02364700,0.00002603,0.0045 2040,-0.00955638,-0.00467495,-0.00375115,0.00052440,0.00259400,0.00045623,0.0023 5623,-0.00327855,-0.00208228,0.00226180,-0.00011475,0.00257140,-0.00120693



:)

Gannicus
02-09-2025, 09:54 PM
2 references:

Irish/Scottish/Welsh,0.13228260,0.13575633,0.06116163,0.04610647, 0.03934567,0.01760073,0.00328790,0.00544713,0.0043 2753,0.00329560,-0.00566140,0.00552183,-0.01298923,-0.01229210,0.02298907,0.00455140,-0.01034353,0.00244507,0.00212870,0.00159910,0.0047 9467,0.00279477,-0.00034153,0.01318237,0.00036833

French:Center,0.12629375,0.14304605,0.04892535,0.0 1849095,0.04218765,0.00665110,0.00122955,0.0039836 0,0.01350490,0.02017300,-0.00508600,0.00708335,-0.01343755,-0.01002685,0.01103420,0.00377305,-0.00130630,0.00308060,0.00289040,-0.00059540,0.00202930,0.00365585,-0.00175740,0.00647840,-0.00099690


Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02401851 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
0.03523874 French:Center


Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0199% / 0.01994242
68.5 Irish/Scottish/Welsh
31.5 French:Center

vader
02-10-2025, 02:29 PM
Target: MarcusAurelius_scaled
Distance: 2.7062% / 0.02706242
68.0 French
16.4 Berber
10.4 Baltic
5.2 Greek

Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 3.1036% / 0.03103603
53.8 Amerindian
32.4 Iberian
10.4 Italian
3.4 SSA

Balboa
02-18-2025, 06:33 PM
without sardinians pretty bad distance but interesting results

Target: Balboa_scaled
Distance: 4.4101% / 0.04410110
100.0 Italian

with Sardinian average sample

Target: Balboa_scaled
Distance: 1.7657% / 0.01765666
48.4 Greek
48.4 Sardinian
1.8 Balkan
1.4 Italian