100% Lebanese But Don't Autosomal matches With no one from Lebanon!!

[Ahaddad]

I have one friend who is full lebanese and all calculators on gedmatch give to him a Lebanese Or Levantine first population, but when he see the autosomal matches with person in gedmatch data don't have anyone from Lebanon, he see many many kits form many countries like India, Iran, England, America, Italia, Iraq, Egypt or also Saudi but Anyone from Lebanon or other levant countries, but he is Lebanese and his results are compatible to a Lebanese.

What mean that ????

[Pine]

Few Lebanese have uploaded to Gedmatch. What does he score on commercial sites?

[Ahaddad]

Few Lebanese have uploaded to Gedmatch. What does he score on commercial sites?

Also little but I think this don't mean something I think maybe from isolated region in Lebanon, much family intermarriage too.

[Ahaddad]

But this make him a fake Lebanese ??

[Ahaddad]

Up

[Abdelnour]

Could be a converted citizen. There are Blacks, Filipinos, and Europeans that can and has claim Lebanese citizenship.

[Narration]

Lack of Lebanese samples.

[Pine]

No, he's not a fake Lebanese if AncestryDNA or 23andMe suggest he's Lebanese. To get cousin matching, you need your cousins to upload their shit.

[Kamal900]

No, he's not a fake Lebanese if AncestryDNA or 23andMe suggest he's Lebanese. To get cousin matching, you need your cousins to upload their shit.

That. in FTDNA, I have matches with my maternal first cousin and many 5th cousins from Greece, Israel and so on. Sadly, 23andMe doesn't send their kits to this country, so I couldn't order them. We only have FTDNA here.

[Ahaddad]

No, he's not a fake Lebanese if AncestryDNA or 23andMe suggest he's Lebanese. To get cousin matching, you need your cousins to upload their shit.

He make in FTDNA his test and pass to gedmatch, he is Lebanese Christian since 300 year or more. I will pass his results here of gedmatch.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 48.84
2 West_Asian 18.57
3 West_Med 15.53
4 Red_Sea 11.29
5 North_Atlantic 1.73
6 Baltic 1.27
7 Northeast_African 1.18
8 Oceanian 0.83
9 South_Asian 0.76

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Christian 2.96
2 Samaritan 4.15
3 Lebanese_Druze 6.19
4 Cyprian 9.25
5 Palestinian 9.34
6 Lebanese_Muslim 9.45
7 Syrian 10.99
8 Jordanian 11.01
9 Kurdish_Jewish 13.16
10 Iranian_Jewish 13.68
11 Tunisian_Jewish 13.8
12 Libyan_Jewish 14.46
13 Assyrian 15.56
14 Bedouin 15.7
15 Sephardic_Jewish 17.14
16 Algerian_Jewish 17.5
17 Italian_Jewish 17.64
18 Georgian_Jewish 19.38
19 Egyptian 19.84
20 Ashkenazi 20.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.7% Lebanese_Christian + 5.3% Italian_Jewish @ 2.79
2 95.7% Lebanese_Christian + 4.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.81
3 95% Lebanese_Christian + 5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.81
4 94.2% Lebanese_Christian + 5.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.84
5 94.5% Lebanese_Christian + 5.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.84
6 87.5% Lebanese_Christian + 12.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.85
7 99.5% Lebanese_Christian + 0.5% Papuan @ 2.88
8 64.7% Samaritan + 35.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.88
9 97.2% Lebanese_Christian + 2.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.89
10 97.9% Lebanese_Christian + 2.1% Tunisian @ 2.9
11 99.1% Lebanese_Christian + 0.9% Belorussian @ 2.91
12 99.2% Lebanese_Christian + 0.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.91
13 99.2% Lebanese_Christian + 0.8% Lithuanian @ 2.91
14 85% Lebanese_Christian + 15% Samaritan @ 2.91
15 97% Lebanese_Christian + 3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.91
16 99.3% Lebanese_Christian + 0.7% Estonian @ 2.91
17 98.9% Lebanese_Christian + 1.1% Sardinian @ 2.91
18 98.3% Lebanese_Christian + 1.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.91
19 97.5% Lebanese_Christian + 2.5% Egyptian @ 2.92
20 99.2% Lebanese_Christian + 0.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.92

[Ahaddad]

He make in FTDNA his test and pass to gedmatch, he is Lebanese Christian since 300 year or more. I will pass his results here of gedmatch.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 48.84
2 West_Asian 18.57
3 West_Med 15.53
4 Red_Sea 11.29
5 North_Atlantic 1.73
6 Baltic 1.27
7 Northeast_African 1.18
8 Oceanian 0.83
9 South_Asian 0.76

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Christian 2.96
2 Samaritan 4.15
3 Lebanese_Druze 6.19
4 Cyprian 9.25
5 Palestinian 9.34
6 Lebanese_Muslim 9.45
7 Syrian 10.99
8 Jordanian 11.01
9 Kurdish_Jewish 13.16
10 Iranian_Jewish 13.68
11 Tunisian_Jewish 13.8
12 Libyan_Jewish 14.46
13 Assyrian 15.56
14 Bedouin 15.7
15 Sephardic_Jewish 17.14
16 Algerian_Jewish 17.5
17 Italian_Jewish 17.64
18 Georgian_Jewish 19.38
19 Egyptian 19.84
20 Ashkenazi 20.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.7% Lebanese_Christian + 5.3% Italian_Jewish @ 2.79
2 95.7% Lebanese_Christian + 4.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.81
3 95% Lebanese_Christian + 5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.81
4 94.2% Lebanese_Christian + 5.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.84
5 94.5% Lebanese_Christian + 5.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.84
6 87.5% Lebanese_Christian + 12.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.85
7 99.5% Lebanese_Christian + 0.5% Papuan @ 2.88
8 64.7% Samaritan + 35.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.88
9 97.2% Lebanese_Christian + 2.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.89
10 97.9% Lebanese_Christian + 2.1% Tunisian @ 2.9
11 99.1% Lebanese_Christian + 0.9% Belorussian @ 2.91
12 99.2% Lebanese_Christian + 0.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.91
13 99.2% Lebanese_Christian + 0.8% Lithuanian @ 2.91
14 85% Lebanese_Christian + 15% Samaritan @ 2.91
15 97% Lebanese_Christian + 3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.91
16 99.3% Lebanese_Christian + 0.7% Estonian @ 2.91
17 98.9% Lebanese_Christian + 1.1% Sardinian @ 2.91
18 98.3% Lebanese_Christian + 1.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.91
19 97.5% Lebanese_Christian + 2.5% Egyptian @ 2.92
20 99.2% Lebanese_Christian + 0.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.92


In Ftdna calculator give to him high Asia Minor but Ftdna put some Lebanese in Asia Minor group I don't know why

His results of Ftdna

Asia Minor-70%
West Middle East-22%
East Middle East-3%
Sephardic Jewish-3%
North Africa-2%

[Ahaddad]

Harappa

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.7
2 SW-Asian 25.01
3 Mediterranean 15.76
4 Baloch 10.7
5 NE-Euro 1.74
6 E-African 1.04
7 Papuan 0.68
8 S-Indian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 lebanese (behar) 5.15
2 lebanese-christian (haber) 6.36
3 lebanese-muslim (haber) 6.85
4 syrian (behar) 7.07
5 palestinian (harappa) 7.96
6 lebanese-druze (haber) 8.12
7 jordanian (behar) 8.53
8 samaritian (behar) 8.84
9 cypriot (behar) 9.74
10 palestinian (hgdp) 9.77
11 iraq-jew (behar) 9.89
12 georgia-jew (behar) 12.13
13 iranian-jew (behar) 12.37
14 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 12.59
15 iraqi-arab (harappa) 12.88
16 armenian (harappa) 13.33
17 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 13.71
18 assyrian (harappa) 14
19 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 14.44
20 druze (hgdp) 15.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.3% lebanese-christian (haber) + 9.7% morocco-n (henn2012) @ 3.38
2 76.3% lebanese-christian (haber) + 23.7% morocco-jew (behar) @ 3.39
3 91.1% lebanese-christian (haber) + 8.9% tunisia (henn2012) @ 3.48
4 90.4% lebanese-christian (haber) + 9.6% mozabite (hgdp) @ 3.58
5 89.8% lebanese-christian (haber) + 10.2% algeria (henn2012) @ 3.59
6 90.6% lebanese-christian (haber) + 9.4% saharawi (henn2012) @ 3.68
7 69.8% lebanese (behar) + 30.2% samaritian (behar) @ 3.82
8 90.1% lebanese-christian (haber) + 9.9% moroccan (behar) @ 3.88
9 74.8% lebanese-christian (haber) + 25.2% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 3.88
10 88.2% lebanese-christian (haber) + 11.8% libya (henn2012) @ 3.89
11 54.1% jordanian (behar) + 45.9% cypriot (behar) @ 3.92
12 50.1% cypriot (behar) + 49.9% palestinian (hgdp) @ 3.96
13 65.5% iraq-jew (behar) + 34.5% morocco-jew (behar) @ 4.06
14 60.7% lebanese (behar) + 39.3% lebanese-christian (haber) @ 4.07
15 93.2% lebanese-christian (haber) + 6.8% basque (hgdp) @ 4.1
16 93.1% lebanese-christian (haber) + 6.9% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 4.11
17 67.8% samaritian (behar) + 32.2% turkish (harappa) @ 4.17
18 62% samaritian (behar) + 38% armenian (harappa) @ 4.23
19 60.8% syrian (behar) + 39.2% cypriot (behar) @ 4.23
20 91.7% lebanese-christian (haber) + 8.3% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 4.24

[Leto]

Could be a converted citizen. There are Blacks, Filipinos, and Europeans that can and has claim Lebanese citizenship.
Actor Chiwetel Ejiofor played Peter the Apostle in a movie about Mary Magdalene xD
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[Pine]

Is he Muslim or Christian?

[Ahaddad]

Is he Muslim or Christian?

Christian

[Chris596]

I'm Hungarian but most of my matches are South and East Slavs plus Jews. It's because I'm genetically similar to them.

[Scandal]

I'm Hungarian but most of my matches are South and East Slavs plus Jews. It's because I'm genetically similar to them.

Which are your high confidene matches? I have tons of mid and low confidence matches from anglo countries but I think it shouldn't be taken seriously.(MyHeritage)

[Chris596]

Which are your high confidene matches? I have tons of mid and low confidence matches from anglo countries but I think it shouldn't be taken seriously.(MyHeritage)

I can't access GEDmatch now for some reason. Anyway I remember seeing kit numbers which are green among my matches, what does it mean?

[Scandal]

I can't access GEDmatch now for some reason. Anyway I remember seeing kit numbers which are green among my matches, what does it mean?

I meant myheritage.

[Chris596]

I meant myheritage.

-My 1st match is my maternal relative from Hungary who also did the test: Estimated relationships 1st cousin twice removed - 3rd cousin once removed

-My 2nd match is a very old woman from Romania, i'm not sure if she's still alive (it says age 90 or above): Estimated relationships 3rd - 4th cousin

-3rd match is a Russian from Germany who has East Slavic and Central Asian roots as well: Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin - I contacted her daughter who manages his DNA but she stopped answering me for some reason.

-4th is Romanian/South Slavic from the USA, she has an american surname only her name could be like Serbian/Romanian or something else, I'm not sure: Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin

-another Russian from Saint Petersburg: Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin

-A person from Sweden who is possibly Serbian based on his surname: Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin

-Another Hungarian possibly from the UK/USA because his surname is Hungarian but his name is English (Joseph-József) Estimated relationships 3rd cousin - distant cousin (it says Medium confidence)

-A surprising Greek match on the 3rd page: Estimated relationships 3rd cousin - distant cousin

-And many Jewish names possibly (I can't decide if it's German/Jewish but more like Jewish because I have no Western European ancestry) from the US, Poland, Latin-America, etc.

And for you?

[Ahaddad]

I mean my friend is Lebanese since he know, calculators say that too it's normal average of Lebanese but he don't have matches in gedmatch and in my heritage just have one far and other No Lebanese. Mean that he isn't rap Lebanese ?

[Chris596]

I mean my friend is Lebanese since he know, calculators say that too it's normal average of Lebanese but he don't have matches in gedmatch and in my heritage just have one far and other No Lebanese. Mean that he isn't rap Lebanese ?

There can be exceptions everywhere. Maybe he is genetically different from an average Lebanese, but by identity he can be just as Lebanese as anybody else, that doesn't mean he's not Lebanese.

Look, by identity I'm Hungarian, but genetically I'm quite different from an average Hungarian, by genetics I'm somewhere in Serbia or in Bulgaria and my father is somewhere between Bulgaria and Greece, quite Southern European. And I know that not everyone was Hungarian among my ancestors, but this is the case for almost every Hungarian which is not surprising.

[Scandal]

-My 1st match is my maternal relative from Hungary who also did the test: Estimated relationships 1st cousin twice removed - 3rd cousin once removed

-My 2nd match is a very old woman from Romania, i'm not sure if she's still alive (it says age 90 or above): Estimated relationships 3rd - 4th cousin

-3rd match is a Russian from Germany who has East Slavic and Central Asian roots as well: Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin - I contacted her daughter who manages his DNA but she stopped answering me for some reason.

-4th is Romanian/South Slavic from the USA, she has an american surname only her name could be like Serbian/Romanian or something else, I'm not sure: Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin

-another Russian from Saint Petersburg: Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin

-A person from Sweden who is possibly Serbian based on his surname: Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin

-Another Hungarian possibly from the UK/USA because his surname is Hungarian but his name is English (Joseph-József) Estimated relationships 3rd cousin - distant cousin (it says Medium confidence)

-A surprising Greek match on the 3rd page: Estimated relationships 3rd cousin - distant cousin

-And many Jewish names possibly (I can't decide if it's German/Jewish but more like Jewish because I have no Western European ancestry) from the US, Poland, Latin-America, etc.

And for you?


My high confidence matches are ethnic Hungarians mostly and to a lesser extent Czechs/Slovaks. I also have high confidence from Western Europe and the New world, they mostly have hungarian or west slavic surnames. Sometimes I get high confidence matches that seem to have Germanic or Anglo names but I think they have recent slavic or hungarian ancestry.

I don't pay attention to low and medium confidence matches, this is what myheritage states about them:

It is uncertain whether this DNA Match is a distant relative, or is not related to you at all. This is based on the low size and number of shared DNA segments

[Chris596]

My high confidence matches are ethnic Hungarians mostly and to a lesser extent Czechs/Slovaks. I also have high confidence from Western Europe and the New world, they mostly have hungarian or west slavic surnames. Sometimes I get high confidence matches that seem to have Germanic or Anglo names but I think they have recent slavic or hungarian ancestry.

I don't pay attention to low and medium confidence matches, this is what myheritage states about them:

Alright, that's reasonable. Do you have Jewish matches as well? Myheritage gave me 1.2% Jewish, FTDNA ~2%, DNA.Land ~3%, Eurogenes Jtest gives me 6% and I have Jewish matches everywhere. Seems like it's real in my case but I'm still not sure about you.

[Lucas]

Christian

Maronite, Melkite, Greek Orthodox?

[Leto]

-My 1st match is my maternal relative from Hungary who also did the test: Estimated relationships 1st cousin twice removed - 3rd cousin once removed

-My 2nd match is a very old woman from Romania, i'm not sure if she's still alive (it says age 90 or above): Estimated relationships 3rd - 4th cousin

-3rd match is a Russian from Germany who has East Slavic and Central Asian roots as well: Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin - I contacted her daughter who manages his DNA but she stopped answering me for some reason.

-4th is Romanian/South Slavic from the USA, she has an american surname only her name could be like Serbian/Romanian or something else, I'm not sure: Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin

-another Russian from Saint Petersburg: Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin

-A person from Sweden who is possibly Serbian based on his surname: Estimated relationships 3rd - 5th cousin

-Another Hungarian possibly from the UK/USA because his surname is Hungarian but his name is English (Joseph-József) Estimated relationships 3rd cousin - distant cousin (it says Medium confidence)

-A surprising Greek match on the 3rd page: Estimated relationships 3rd cousin - distant cousin

-And many Jewish names possibly (I can't decide if it's German/Jewish but more like Jewish because I have no Western European ancestry) from the US, Poland, Latin-America, etc.

And for you?
Hey Chris, can you share those two Russians with me in case you haven't yet?

[Ahaddad]

Maronite, Melkite, Greek Orthodox?


Melkite from Baalbek, now I see one Far match Lebanese Muslim with just 7,5 cm of one chromosome

[Lucas]

Melkite from Baalbek, now I see one Far match Lebanese Muslim with just 7,5 cm of one chromosome

If they are isolated from other Christian communities (in case of marriages) ?

[Pine]

Morons, he's Lebanese, just hasn't had cousins upload to Gedmatch yet.

[Aren]

Melkite from Baalbek, now I see one Far match Lebanese Muslim with just 7,5 cm of one chromosome

That explains it. Most Lebanese Christians I've seen on Gedmatch seem to be Maronites.
People related to your father just havn't tested yet.

[Pertoto]

Maybe there is not much that shares dna with u. Maybe there is but not from a same ancient father so u wont see them in your match list.