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Zoro
08-12-2020, 10:13 PM
http://WWW.GENEPLAZA.COM

The Eurasia K5 ( USD 9) admixture calculator was specifically designed to measure relatedness of individuals to highly diverged populations of Eurasia, to wit:

1- West Eurasians
2- South Eurasians
3- East Eurasians
4- Eastern Siberians & Native Americans
5- Basal Eurasians & Africans


Differences between the Eurasia K5, commercial ancestry tests, and other Admixture program based calculators:

In contrast to commercial ancestry tests and other Admixture program based calculators, the Eurasia K5 is designed to detect TOTAL DEEPER RELATEDNESS between the test subject and the aforementioned divergent populations than other tests.

Commercial DNA ancestry tests can detect East or South Asian ancestry in Europeans or West Asians only if there is recent admixture, however they are not designed to find older such ancestry that may have introgressed during Medieval, Iron Age, Bronze Age, or Neolithic times. Similarly other Admixture program based calculators do the same. The reason for this is that a test subject's DNA is compared to many other West Asian or European populations and many South or East Asian DNA segments go unreported because they are incorporated into the West Asian or European references via older admixture from Iron Age Steppe nomads or Turkic migrations into West Asia and Europe. In other words these older East or South Asian DNA segments are not reported under East or South Asian in the test subject's test results. This calculator seeks to find those older East Eurasian, South Eurasian, Siberian, and Basal Eurasian/African segments in the user's DNA.

Similarly, this test also seeks to find older West Eurasian, Siberian, and Basal Eurasian DNA segments in East Asian users. Ditto for testers from the Americas and Africa.

In "Paleolithic DNA from the Caucasus reveals core of West Eurasian ancestry", Supplementary Information, Tables S4.2-S4.5, Lazaridis et al, 2018, the authors showed via formal statistics that most West Asian and European populations including ancient ones have some older East Asian and Siberian related admixture. The Eurasia K5 test is also able to detect this older admixture unlike commercial ancestry testing companies such as 23andMe or AncestryDNA, and unlike most other Admixture based calculators


My mom's results (100% Kurd from Iraq) are quite similar to formal stats. Post your results here.

https://i.imgur.com/xXoLNwi.jpg

Lucas
08-12-2020, 10:38 PM
Why India is groupped with Papua?

Zoro
08-12-2020, 11:03 PM
Why India is groupped with Papua?

I think it’s because Indians and Papuans share deep ancestry as well as more recent 4000 year old ancestry. Looks like they didn’t want to create a separate Austranesian component. Hey 23andme groups Bengals and Afghans and Turkmenistan under one category just like they group Arabs, Caucasians, Persians under one category :)

Lucas
08-12-2020, 11:06 PM
I think it’s because Indians and Papuans share deep ancestry as well as more recent 4000 year old ancestry. Looks like they didn’t want to create a separate Austranesian component. Hey 23andme groups Bengals and Afghans and Turkmenistan under one category just like they group Arabs, Caucasians, Persians under one category :)

Se-Asia and especially Indonesia & Phillipines are indeed discriminated in most tests.

Voskos
08-13-2020, 11:20 AM
Bump

Scandal
08-13-2020, 11:26 AM
sub

Chris596
08-13-2020, 12:23 PM
Wonderful results my friend this is great.

Here's mine: I'm surprised that I got more East Eurasian than Siberian but this seems to be the trend for me. Plus I didn't expect to get South Eurasian either but that must be something really really ancient in my case.

https://i.imgur.com/m6UgKCY.png

-92.2% West Eurasian
-3.6% East Eurasian
-3.1% Siberian American-Indian
-1.1% South Eurasian

Zoro
08-13-2020, 01:09 PM
Wonderful results my friend this is great.

Here's mine: I'm surprised that I got more East Eurasian than Siberian but this seems to be the trend for me. Plus I didn't expect to get South Eurasian either but that must be something really really ancient in my case.

https://i.imgur.com/m6UgKCY.png

-92.2% West Eurasian
-3.6% East Eurasian
-3.1% Siberian American-Indian
-1.1% South Eurasian

Nice. It looks like you have the confirmation of E Asian you were looking for using 2 totally different softwares, the SAPDA software and now using this software. The South Eurasian being so low is just common distant shared ancestry between south and east Eurasians.

Zoro
08-13-2020, 06:23 PM
Anyone else have any results to share from this new test.

JerryS.
08-13-2020, 06:31 PM
I'm no longer paying to be a beta tester after the last company you touted. Do you have a free version I can try?

Zoro
08-13-2020, 07:06 PM
I'm no longer paying to be a beta tester after the last company you touted. Do you have a free version I can try?

First, I didn’t tout that company. I have no relationship with them . I was just pointing out that they are using the new GSA chip for genotyping which is more accurate than the older ships used by the commercial companies until 2020 in most cases.

As far as a free version of this one I have no idea but I seriously doubt it you gonna have to contact GenePlaza

digital_noise
08-13-2020, 09:26 PM
Is he talking about Adntro?

Chris596
08-13-2020, 09:32 PM
BTW I have also contacted EurasianDNA regarding my SAPDA results (2 weeks ago I think). No answer so far :dunno:

JerryS.
08-13-2020, 10:18 PM
Is he talking about Adntro?

yes. I've reviewed my results a few times with them and while the general regions haven't changed, the sub regions have a few times.

17571imre
08-14-2020, 08:40 AM
my results:

https://imgur.com/a/rr59q3N

oszkar07
08-14-2020, 09:22 AM
So far im not great fan of Dilawer Khan calculators.
Or to be more specific most of them havnt been too great for me.

Zoro
08-14-2020, 01:28 PM
Or to be more specific most of them havnt been too great for me.

Why

firemonkey
08-17-2020, 10:28 AM
https://i.imgur.com/CgpqzTF.png

Dr_Maul
08-17-2020, 10:45 AM
Nvm realized it was just a preview lol

Zoro
08-17-2020, 11:35 AM
Nvm realized it was just a preview lol

??

michal3141
08-26-2020, 03:20 PM
Pretty interesting for me:

90.2% WEST EURASIAN
5.7% SIBERIAN AMERICAN-INDIAN
2.5% EAST EURASIAN
1.6% SOUTH EURASIAN
0.0% BASAL EURASIAN/AFRICA

It would be good to have a spreadsheet for comparison purposes.

Lucas
08-26-2020, 03:45 PM
On AG few users yesterday had problems getting result but I see all is ok now so I will buy soon.

magicalM
08-26-2020, 05:42 PM
Here is mine.

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200826/abefc1ad92b8d8fb34fd0b60660b0b9b.jpg

Pedro Ruben
08-27-2020, 10:04 AM
https://i.imgur.com/r3DQNVS.jpg

Zoro
08-28-2020, 01:14 PM
Pretty interesting for me:

90.2% WEST EURASIAN
5.7% SIBERIAN AMERICAN-INDIAN
2.5% EAST EURASIAN
1.6% SOUTH EURASIAN
0.0% BASAL EURASIAN/AFRICA

It would be good to have a spreadsheet for comparison purposes.

I started one. Perhaps you can host it on Google Drive and we can keep adding to it. If there are other users here or on other forums feel free to add their results if you know their predominant ethnicity. Also it would be helpful to add a column for user's DNA data whether it's 23andme V4 or V5 or Ancestrydna or FTDNA etc since some companies have less overlapping SNPs with test.

So far the pattern has been West Asians and Portuguese score excess Basal Eurasian/ African whereas Europeans so far.

Hungarians score more E Eurasian than other Europeans except you're up there too. NE Europeans such as yourself and Firemonkey who may have some NE European ancestry score more Siberian (combined old and more recent).

The small amount of S Eurasian in Europeans I suspect is some noise/shared alleles between Europeans and S Asians due to shared Steppe! But if it's small it could be noise.



<tbody>
Sample
Predominant Ethnicity
W Eurasian
E Eurasian
Siberian/Native American
S Eurasian
Basal Eurasian/ African


Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ
Kurd
81.7%

6.70%
1.60%
5.70%
4.30%


Chris596
Hungarian
92.20%
3.60%
3.10%
1.10%
0.00%


17571Imre
Hungarian
93.00%
2.30%
2.60%
2.10%
0.00%


MagicalM
Hungarian
91.80%
2.90%
4.20%
1.10%
0.00%


Firemonkey
British
92.30%
1.00%
5.20%
1.50%
0.00%


Michael3141
Polish
90.20%
2.50%
5.70%
1.60%
0.00%


Pedro Ruben
Portuguese
91.90%
0.80%
2.40%
0.80%
4.20%

</tbody>
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Zoro
08-28-2020, 01:21 PM
Mortimer added from a different thread. This calculator seems to break up S Asian into W Eurasian, S Eurasian, and E Eurasian.


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Sample
Predominant Ethnicity
W Eurasian
E Eurasian
Siberian/Native American
S Eurasian
Basal Eurasian/ African


Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ
Kurd
81.70%
6.70%
1.60%
5.70%
4.30%


Chris596
Hungarian
92.20%
3.60%
3.10%
1.10%
0.00%


17571Imre
Hungarian
93.00%
2.30%
2.60%
2.10%
0.00%


MagicalM
Hungarian
91.80%
2.90%
4.20%
1.10%
0.00%


Firemonkey
British
92.30%
1.00%
5.20%
1.50%
0.00%


Michael3141
Polish
90.20%
2.50%
5.70%
1.60%
0.00%


Pedro Ruben
Portuguese
91.90%
0.80%
2.40%
0.80%
4.20%


Mortimer
Romani
84.90%
5.30%
2.10%
7.00%
0.00%

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Lucas
08-28-2020, 07:35 PM
I started one. Perhaps you can host it on Google Drive and we can keep adding to it. If there are other users here or on other forums feel free to add their results if you know their predominant ethnicity. Also it would be helpful to add a column for user's DNA data whether it's 23andme V4 or V5 or Ancestrydna or FTDNA etc since some companies have less overlapping SNPs with test.

So far the pattern has been West Asians and Portuguese score excess Basal Eurasian/ African whereas Europeans so far.

Hungarians score more E Eurasian than other Europeans except you're up there too. NE Europeans such as yourself and Firemonkey who may have some NE European ancestry score more Siberian (combined old and more recent).

The small amount of S Eurasian in Europeans I suspect is some noise/shared alleles between Europeans and S Asians due to shared Steppe! But if it's small it could be noise.



<tbody>
Sample
Predominant Ethnicity
W Eurasian
E Eurasian
Siberian/Native American
S Eurasian
Basal Eurasian/ African


Kurd-Kurmanji-IQ
Kurd
81.7%

6.70%
1.60%
5.70%
4.30%


Chris596
Hungarian
92.20%
3.60%
3.10%
1.10%
0.00%


17571Imre
Hungarian
93.00%
2.30%
2.60%
2.10%
0.00%


MagicalM
Hungarian
91.80%
2.90%
4.20%
1.10%
0.00%


Firemonkey
British
92.30%
1.00%
5.20%
1.50%
0.00%


Michael3141
Polish
90.20%
2.50%
5.70%
1.60%
0.00%


Pedro Ruben
Portuguese
91.90%
0.80%
2.40%
0.80%
4.20%

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You can add results from Anthogenica thread too https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?21434-Geneplaza-K5-Admixture

Zoro
08-28-2020, 11:03 PM
You can add results from Anthogenica thread too https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?21434-Geneplaza-K5-Admixture

Thanks I’ll add the ones whose ethnicity is not too ambiguous

oszkar07
08-29-2020, 07:47 AM
Why

From memory his K29 calc estimated me to have 34 % South West European ...like I would have to be half Spanish at least or something. So that was totally off.