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Kyp
08-25-2020, 07:26 AM
What do you think are the Top 3 (European, East Asian, SSA, South Asian) Middle-Eastern/West Asian countries (genetically)?

By country as a whole, not by main ethnicity.


Pool of West Asian/MiddleEastern countries:
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Bahrain
Egypt
Georgia
Iran
Iraq
Israel
Jordania
Kuwait
Lebanon
Oman
Palestine
Qatar
Saudi-Arabia
Syria
Turkey
Yemen


Answer in this style (if you do Top 5 even better):

European:
1.
2.
3.
(4.)
(5.)

East Asian:
1.
2.
3.

SSA:
1.
2.
3.

South Asian:
1.
2.
3.

dududud
08-25-2020, 07:56 AM
It has nothing to do with autosomal.

Go to Taxonomy, not GENETIC.

Kyp
08-25-2020, 08:04 AM
It has nothing to do with autosomal.

Go to Taxonomy, not GENETIC.

No I mean genetically. I will edit the wording.

Kyp
08-25-2020, 12:23 PM
bump

Bender1999
08-25-2020, 12:39 PM
bump

What do you exactly mean? Genetically interesting, homogeneous, heterogeneous etc?

Kyp
08-25-2020, 12:42 PM
What do you exactly mean? Genetically interesting, homogeneous, heterogeneous etc?

genetically (most European, Asian etc..)

Bender1999
08-25-2020, 12:54 PM
genetically (most European, Asian etc..)

Most European:
1) Georgia
2) Azerbaijan
3) Israel
4) Turkey
5) Iran

East Asian
1) Iran
2) Turkey
3) Azerbaijan
4) Syria?
5) Iraq or Israel?

SSA
1) Iraq
2) Kuwait
3) Yemen?
4) Iran?
5)???

South Asian
1) Iran
2) Iraq(maybe some outliners have more than Iran)
3) Kuwait
...

I have seen not enough SW-results or lets say i am more focused on (North)Westasians than to others to say something about Arabs for example.

Bender1999
08-25-2020, 12:56 PM
Double

Kyp
08-25-2020, 01:16 PM
Most European:
1) Georgia
2) Azerbaijan
3) Israel
4) Turkey
5) Iran

East Asian
1) Iran
2) Turkey
3) Azerbaijan
4) Syria?
5) Iraq or Israel?

SSA
1) Iraq
2) Kuwait
3) Yemen?
4) Iran?
5)???

South Asian
1) Iran
2) Iraq(maybe some outliners have more than Iran)
3) Kuwait
...

I have seen not enough SW-results or lets say i am more focused on (North)Westasians than to others to say something about Arabs for example.

Here are my thoughts:

Most European:
1) Israel
2) Turkey
3) Azerbaijan
4) Armenia
5) Iran (maybe Lebanon or Syria too)

East Asian
1) Turkey
2) Iran (takes the edge over Azerbaijan because of large Azerbaijani, Turkmen and Afghan pop)
3) Azerbaijan
4) Iraq
5) Syria

SSA
1) Yemen
2) Saudi-Arabia
3) Kuwait
4) Iraq
5) Oman

South Asian
1) Iran
2) Iraq
3) Kuwait
4) Azerbaijan
5) Turkey

Korovic
08-25-2020, 01:19 PM
Most European :
1. Turkey
2. Israel
3. Lebanon

Middle easterns :
1. Saudi Arabia
2. Iraq
3. Jordan

West Asians
1. Georgians
2. Armenians
3. Turkish

El_Abominacion
08-25-2020, 01:29 PM
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Kyp
08-25-2020, 01:34 PM
European:
1. Greece (Islands)
2. Italy (Southern Italy/Sicily)
3. Russian Federation (native North Caucasian, Tatar/Bashkir minorities)


East Asian:
1. China (Hui, Uyghur minorities with a wide range of West Asian admixture)
2. Mongolia (small amounts of West Asian admixture)
3. Really cannot think of anything else

SSA:
1. Somalia (Coastal Somalis tend to have more foreign admixture including West Asian)
2. Eritrea
3. Ethiopia

South Asian:
1. Pakistan (Particularly around the Western region which houses part of the Iranian plateau)
2. India
3. Bangladesh

The queston was about West Asian countries as a whole. For example: Which West Asian country has the most European admixture. Not about other people with West Asian admixture. Still an interesting post and a good idea for a different thread.


Example:
Most European:
1) Israel
2) Turkey
3) Azerbaijan
4) Armenia
5) Iran (maybe Lebanon or Syria too)

East Asian
1) Turkey
2) Iran
3) Azerbaijan
4) Iraq
5) Syria

SSA
1) Yemen
2) Saudi-Arabia
3) Kuwait
4) Iraq
5) Oman

South Asian
1) Iran
2) Iraq
3) Kuwait
4) Azerbaijan
5) Turkey

El_Abominacion
08-25-2020, 01:36 PM
The queston was about West Asian countries as a whole. For example: Which West Asian country has the most European admixture. Not about other people with West Asian admixture. Still an interesting post and a good idea for a different thread.

I'm an idiot lol. I'll redo it quickly

El_Abominacion
08-25-2020, 01:47 PM
European:
1. Israel
2. Turkey
3. Georgia

East Asian:
1. Turkey
2. Iran
3. Azerbaijan

SSA:
1. Yemen
2. Egypt
3. Saudi Arabia

South Asian:
1. UAE if that counts
2. Iran
3. Iraq

mergen3
08-25-2020, 01:49 PM
European
1- İsrael,Turkey
2- Azerbaijan
3-Armenia,İran
4-Syria
East asian
1- Turkey
2-Azerbaijan
3-Iran
4-Syria

Thracian
08-25-2020, 01:59 PM
European

1.Turkey
2. Israel


East Asian:
1. Turkey
2. Iran
3. Azerbaijan

SSA:
1. Saudi Arabia
2. Egypt
3. Kuwait

South Asian:
1. Iran
2. Iraq
3. Azerbaijan

Leto
08-25-2020, 02:04 PM
European:
1. Israel (because of Ashkenazim)
2. Turkey
3. Georgia

East Asian:
1. Turkey
2. Azerbaijan
3. Iran

South Asian:
1. Iran
2. Iraq
3. Oman

SSA:
1. Yemen
2. Egypt
3. Kuwait (?)

Leto
08-25-2020, 02:11 PM
Afghanistan, North Africa and the North Caucasian Federal District of the Russian Federation are not on the list.

Jana
08-25-2020, 02:32 PM
Georgians don't have much European admixture, they are pretty pure west Asians.

Leto
08-25-2020, 02:41 PM
Georgians don't have much European admixture, they are pretty pure west Asians.
They are lighter than most of the other pops on the list and in Russia they intermix and assimilate among Russians in the second generation.
Anyway, don't single them out, give your own list.

Bender1999
08-25-2020, 02:52 PM
I think i should explain this:


Most European:
1) Georgia= saw results were Georgians scored over 20% European, idk about average
2) Azerbaijan = nearly same with Georgia
3) Israel = just considered Ashkenazi honestly, aren’t they up to 20% European? Other Jews definitely less European
4) Turkey = for Non-IE very high Europe components, even the Anatolian Turks without Muhacir background. Indeed i think that comes from Turkics, Anatolian Turks show between 5(low)-15(high, there could be non turkic included)%, Balkan Turks more, i think at least 15%. So probably Turkey comes ere Israel.
5) Iran = NW-Caspians can show high European, generally they score between 4(low)-12(high)% European

East Asian
1) Iran = many Azerbaijanis, i believe there are many with over 10% east eurasian, also many other Turkics who score more mongoloid admixture than any other Westasian Turkic. Even sone Iranians had up to 20/30% Turkic admix.
2) Turkey = don’t need an explanation
3) Azerbaijan = don’t need an explanation, maybe 1-3% less mongoloid than Turkey
4) Syria? = i still miss results from there, Syria were highly populated by Turks, even non Turks show sometimes 2-4% east eurasian
5) Iraq or Israel? = i think „real“ Iraqi Turkmens must still show about 5% mongoloid, honestly the most Turks there are assimilated, migrated or murdered. This group is dying out(unfortunately). Israel: Maybe some Ashkenazm show a bit east eurasian?

SSA
1) Iraq
2) Kuwait
3) Yemen?
4) Iran?
5)???


South Asian
1) Iran
2) Iraq(maybe some outliners have more than Iran)
3) Kuwait
...

For last two components i don’t really have many results in my mind.

I have seen not enough SW-results or lets say i am more focused on (North)Westasians than to others to say something about Arabs for example.

Seya
08-25-2020, 03:07 PM
Apart from Israel and Turkey, no one else has european DNA in that list

Kyp
08-25-2020, 03:07 PM
I think i should explain this:

I think Stearsolina is right. Georgians are pretty clear cut mix of CHG and Anatolia Barcin. I don't know how much Steppe or European HunterG is hidden under these components though. I still dont think they make top 3 as a whole.

Target: Georgian
Distance: 1.4292% / 0.01429210
53.4 GEO_CHG
29.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
7.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
6.8 Levant_Natufian
2.6 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Kyp
08-25-2020, 03:09 PM
Apart from Israel and Turkey, no one else has european DNA in that list

That's only true If we talk about recent admixture.

Steppe ancestry can be considered partly European. Neolithic Anatolian too.

Bender1999
08-25-2020, 03:13 PM
I think Stearsolina is right. Georgians are pretty clear cut mix of CHG and Anatolia Barcin. I don't know how much Steppe or European HunterG is hidden under these components though. I dont think they make top 3 as a whole.

Target: Georgian
Distance: 1.4292% / 0.01429210
53.4 GEO_CHG
29.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
7.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
6.8 Levant_Natufian
2.6 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

I also don’t really know where their European admix comes from:

1 Caucasus 47.26
2 Gedrosia 19.87
3 North_European 17.17
4 Atlantic_Med 7.2
5 Southwest_Asian 4.6
6 Siberian 1.22
7 Southeast_Asian 1.08
8 South_Asian 1.04
9 East_Asian 0.49
10 Sub_Saharan 0.06

In the other hand there are who don’t score even 10%.

Narration
08-25-2020, 03:16 PM
European:
- Turkey
- Georgia
- Armenia
- Azerbaijan
- Israel

East Asian:
- Turkey
- Azerbaijan
- Iran

SSA:
- Yemen
- Egypt
- Saudi Arabia

South Asian:
- Iran
- Iraq
- Oman

Frowning Man
08-25-2020, 03:18 PM
That's only true If we talk about recent admixture.

Steppe ancestry can be considered partly European. Neolithic Anatolian too.

I think Georgians are 100% West Asia, they are 100% inhabitants of the Caucasus Mountains. We (Georgians) do not refer to Europeans.

Leto
08-25-2020, 03:26 PM
I think Georgians are 100% West Asia, they are 100% inhabitants of the Caucasus Mountains. We (Georgians) do not refer to Europeans.
But you do feel closer in many ways to Russians than to your Muslim neighbors, don't you.

Kyp
08-25-2020, 03:28 PM
But you do feel closer in many ways to Russians than to your Muslim neighbors, don't you.

The thread is about genetic aspect though.

Leto
08-25-2020, 03:31 PM
The thread is about genetic aspect though.
Well, Azerbaijan as a whole isn't more European than Georgia.

Frowning Man
08-25-2020, 03:46 PM
But you do feel closer in many ways to Russians than to your Muslim neighbors, don't you.

Russians are closer to me because I grew up in Russia since childhood. Georgians are closer to Russia (I'm not sure about that) because Russians are also Orthodox.
I do not think that Georgians are closer to Arabs or other inhabitants of the Middle East than to Europeans. Georgians are equally far from the inhabitants of Europe and the Middle East.

Georgia is a Caucasian region. For me, Caucasians stand apart from Europe and the Middle East.
Too strong difference in mentality, appearance and in many other things.

Leto
08-25-2020, 03:59 PM
Russians are closer to me because I grew up in Russia since childhood. Georgians are closer to Russia (I'm not sure about that) because Russians are also Orthodox.
I do not think that Georgians are closer to Arabs or other inhabitants of the Middle East than to Europeans. Georgians are equally far from the inhabitants of Europe and the Middle East.

Georgia is a Caucasian region. For me, Caucasians stand apart from Europe and the Middle East.
Too strong difference in mentality, appearance and in many other things.
Where did you grow up? In the South? Do you even live in Georgia or speak the language?

Frowning Man
08-25-2020, 04:08 PM
Where did you grow up? In the South? Do you even live in Georgia or speak the language?

I have been living in Russia since I was three. Not south. Moscow and Moscow region. I have visited Georgia many times, of course. I can speak Georgian, Megrelian and very poor Svan. But I speak Russian fluently and without an accent.

Leto
08-25-2020, 04:08 PM
That's only true If we talk about recent admixture.

Steppe ancestry can be considered partly European. Neolithic Anatolian too.
Especially Dagestan is a peculiar case. They have a truckload of Yamnaya-like admixture judging by G25 models without having any recent European (some might say they have Russian admixture but that'd be a lie). Also they often get like 25-27% Gedrosia on Dodecad which is even higher than their Southern neighbors.

Leto
08-25-2020, 04:13 PM
I have been living in Russia since I was three. Not south. Moscow and Moscow region. I have visited Georgia many times, of course. I can speak Georgian, Megrelian and very poor Svan. But I speak Russian fluently and without an accent.
I was born in Moscow oblast, basically in the Moscow metropolitan area. Georgians are prolly the best immigrants (after Ukrainians and Moldovans) except for organized crime which I hope you and your family aren't part of.

Frowning Man
08-25-2020, 04:18 PM
I was born in Moscow oblast, basically in the Moscow metropolitan area. Georgians are prolly the best immigrants (after Ukrainians and Moldovans) except for organized crime which I hope you and your family aren't part of.

My family and I have nothing to do with them.
I myself do not like the Georgian mafia. They damage our reputation in the eyes of other people.

Leto
08-25-2020, 04:20 PM
My family and I have nothing to do with them.
I myself do not like the Georgian mafia. They damage our reputation in the eyes of other people.
True. They are a minority and in Georgia the general crime rates are rather low.

Kyp
08-25-2020, 05:27 PM
What do you exactly mean? Genetically interesting, homogeneous, heterogeneous etc?


Most European :
1. Turkey
2. Israel
3. Lebanon

Middle easterns :
1. Saudi Arabia
2. Iraq
3. Jordan

West Asians
1. Georgians
2. Armenians
3. Turkish


----


European
1- İsrael,Turkey
2- Azerbaijan
3-Armenia,İran
4-Syria
East asian
1- Turkey
2-Azerbaijan
3-Iran
4-Syria


European

1.Turkey
2. Israel


East Asian:
1. Turkey
2. Iran
3. Azerbaijan

SSA:
1. Saudi Arabia
2. Egypt
3. Kuwait

South Asian:
1. Iran
2. Iraq
3. Azerbaijan


Georgians don't have much European admixture, they are pretty pure west Asians.


European:
- Turkey
- Georgia
- Armenia
- Azerbaijan
- Israel

East Asian:
- Turkey
- Azerbaijan
- Iran

SSA:
- Yemen
- Egypt
- Saudi Arabia

South Asian:
- Iran
- Iraq
- Oman


I think Georgians are 100% West Asia, they are 100% inhabitants of the Caucasus Mountains. We (Georgians) do not refer to Europeans.


True. They are a minority and in Georgia the general crime rates are rather low.


Check out the Part 2 of this thread:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?331038-Most-(-)-Middle-Eastern-West-Asian-country-pt-2&p=6864526#post6864526

Jana
08-25-2020, 05:33 PM
They are lighter than most of the other pops on the list and in Russia they intermix and assimilate among Russians in the second generation.
Anyway, don't single them out, give your own list.

For most European admixture?

Turkey and Israel are only ones with significant amount of it as far as I know.

Zoro
08-25-2020, 05:58 PM
I think i should explain this:

Europeans are substantially Anatolia-N which is not native European. If anything then WHG is the most native European. So the question should be who’s the most WHG

As far as Middle-Eastern, there’s Levant-N, Anatolia-N, Iran-N. Europeans have both Anatolia-N and Levant-N. That leaves Iran-N which is not significant in Europe. So the question should be who has the most Iran-N

AASI is the most S Asian

Also you can’t use k10 or k12 or k13 calculators to measure E Asian because you have absolutely no idea how much E Asian is hiding under Caucasian and other components. You need to use a k3-k5 calculator with more pure components.

user_
08-25-2020, 07:22 PM
I have been living in Russia since I was three. Not south. Moscow and Moscow region. I have visited Georgia many times, of course. I can speak Georgian, Megrelian and very poor Svan. But I speak Russian fluently and without an accent.

You grew up in Russia, your knowledge about Georgia probably comes from legends that you heard from parents and the stereotypes that you have in Russia.
Reality is different, Georgians do not feel themselves close to Caucaisans. Unfortunately today we have more information from Germany, than from Caucasian republics. Modern Georgians are far far closer by mentality even to French, than to Dagestani.

As for genetics, if West Asian component was called South East European, Georgians would be the most South East European population in the world ))))

Anyways most people who visit Georgia consider it as part of East Europe.

Watch this documentary to understand what Georgia really looks like, with it's good and bad sides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnd_xS8l5Ck&t=648s

user_
08-25-2020, 07:28 PM
I have been living in Russia since I was three. Not south. Moscow and Moscow region. I have visited Georgia many times, of course. I can speak Georgian, Megrelian and very poor Svan. But I speak Russian fluently and without an accent.

You grew up in Russia, your knowledge about Georgia probably comes from legends that you heard from parents and the stereotypes that you have in Russia.
Reality is different, Georgians do not feel themselves close to Caucaisans. Unfortunately today we have more information from Germany, than from Caucasian republics. Modern Georgians are far far closer by mentality even to French, than to Dagestani.

As for genetics, if West Asian component was called South East European, Georgians would be the most South East European population in the world ))))

Anyways most people who visit Georgia consider it as part of East Europe.

Watch this documentary to understand what Georgia really looks like, with it's good and bad sides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnd_xS8l5Ck&t=648s

Leto
08-25-2020, 07:37 PM
Watch this documentary to understand what Georgia really looks like, with it's good and bad sides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnd_xS8l5Ck&t=648s
I won't watch anything produced by Vice which is basically a far-left Neo-Marxist medium.

Leto
08-25-2020, 07:45 PM
As for genetics, if West Asian component was called South East European, Georgians would be the most South East European population in the world ))))

But the Georgians are not Southeastern European though. Actually they are the most Caucasian group out there if we talk about the Caucasus HG admixture. If I remember correctly Satsurblia was found in Georgia and that's the person they derive the Caucasus HG component from. The North Caucasus has a lot more European and Mongoloid than Georgia.

user_
08-25-2020, 08:09 PM
But the Georgians are not Southeastern European though. Actually they are the most Caucasian group out there if we talk about the Caucasus HG admixture. If I remember correctly Satsurblia was found in Georgia and that's the person they derive the Caucasus HG component from. The North Caucasus has a lot more European and Mongoloid than Georgia.

If Caucasus is considered as part of Europe, than Satsurblia cave is located in Europe and ancient human found there can be called European )))
The word "Asian" is confusing people. For example Georgians are closer to Latvians than Sardinians are, genetically or with phenotype. But at the same time Saridnians are the most south "European" people, and Georgians are the most West "Asians".

Frowning Man
08-25-2020, 08:36 PM
You grew up in Russia, your knowledge about Georgia probably comes from legends that you heard from parents and the stereotypes that you have in Russia.
Reality is different, Georgians do not feel themselves close to Caucaisans. Unfortunately today we have more information from Germany, than from Caucasian republics. Modern Georgians are far far closer by mentality even to French, than to Dagestani.

As for genetics, if West Asian component was called South East European, Georgians would be the most South East European population in the world ))))

Anyways most people who visit Georgia consider it as part of East Europe.

Watch this documentary to understand what Georgia really looks like, with it's good and bad sides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnd_xS8l5Ck&t=648s
I know enough about Georgia. My ancestors are from western georgia from the mountainous part of it. They are very traditional. And they strictly honor old traditions. What did I say bad? I did not say that Georgians are closer to Dagestanis, Chechens, Ossetians in mentality. I didn't say we are Asians. I did not say that we are negroids. I did not say that we are dark. We are Caucasians, we are Georgians. With its own mentality, with its appearance, with its own traditions. What's wrong with that? For example, I probably don't feel like a European, I don't look like a European in appearance. I am 100% Georgian in appearance and mentality. I do not feel myself either European or Western Asian. I feel like Kartwell (Georgian).

user_
08-25-2020, 08:48 PM
I know enough about Georgia. My ancestors are from western georgia from the mountainous part of it. They are very traditional. And they strictly honor old traditions. What did I say bad? I did not say that Georgians are closer to Dagestanis, Chechens, Ossetians in mentality. I didn't say we are Asians. I did not say that we are negroids. I did not say that we are dark. We are Caucasians, we are Georgians. With its own mentality, with its appearance, with its own traditions. What's wrong with that? For example, I probably don't feel like a European, I don't look like a European in appearance. I am 100% Georgian in appearance and mentality. I do not feel myself either European or Western Asian. I feel like Kartwell (Georgian).

Of course Georgia is quite unique place, because of its's geography. But if we have to put Georgia in Euro or Asian group, i would choose Europe. Europe is a very diverse itself, as both Finns and Sardinians are Europeans.
People here write incredible things, Turks and even Azeris are more European than Georgians, because Georgians have the highest west "ASIAN" component lol :D

Leto
08-25-2020, 09:01 PM
For example, I probably don't feel like a European, I don't look like a European in appearance. I am 100% Georgian in appearance and mentality. I do not feel myself either European or Western Asian. I feel like Kartwell (Georgian).
Georgia has a sizeable amount of light people (unlike Armenia and Azerbaijan) like Nino Khomeriki who is a chess player
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/H9c_3QeBnBb0mVpWBDO9_76pDeaz0dAFMIb7FNTkdCrDi46_9S dyzvc7GyBa0dXmlVpIiNjeS8Tg3FIKx4B_OaplV_mp3ddbFJCj qbdIqb__eIZWhiM2oVinom9ZQTQ20VsionwC35JTId6SusN6B8 1XO9NKCx1ASwTP8rWX6MjsYV9EB0BvFKfiFVZkimOHVvBtnj7_ ABRfxBvCW0XWRjRfTxgt_SUWFORPhQNgBWLlQG1meZUq_9T6HS bhvecXxkKcQi6jbMN-62HJ3iROtBVP-_1h3sNL0iIuG1bjmuTqQXdJLsCm6xpwY3AQF5lqcmV0VlKy5cP zN6Seqk2eSfgAXqkYo-KqHqYt2w0i9ncr8hud7AWdz2pEUqY3upqUwRZc3x76qAFX9Mmo XzWK8xOzLo6Xz6G3769ZTnFHx4PxYtU6LZfeHM2SXaMIA0x6eZ 9VYP-1QaYXr5fA6iN3fMxTXgd8XwRZ65gRZAPD9OX_nOp9eMR-5-31Kgvu5V2ysQyqD6baSSLkMF1A--PyAETOonxm3JOQBlwTc2UTLY00_55FDOQ1QLg1SJQ

Frowning Man
08-25-2020, 09:09 PM
Georgia has a sizeable amount of light people (unlike Armenia and Azerbaijan) like Nino Khomeriki who is a chess player
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/H9c_3QeBnBb0mVpWBDO9_76pDeaz0dAFMIb7FNTkdCrDi46_9S dyzvc7GyBa0dXmlVpIiNjeS8Tg3FIKx4B_OaplV_mp3ddbFJCj qbdIqb__eIZWhiM2oVinom9ZQTQ20VsionwC35JTId6SusN6B8 1XO9NKCx1ASwTP8rWX6MjsYV9EB0BvFKfiFVZkimOHVvBtnj7_ ABRfxBvCW0XWRjRfTxgt_SUWFORPhQNgBWLlQG1meZUq_9T6HS bhvecXxkKcQi6jbMN-62HJ3iROtBVP-_1h3sNL0iIuG1bjmuTqQXdJLsCm6xpwY3AQF5lqcmV0VlKy5cP zN6Seqk2eSfgAXqkYo-KqHqYt2w0i9ncr8hud7AWdz2pEUqY3upqUwRZc3x76qAFX9Mmo XzWK8xOzLo6Xz6G3769ZTnFHx4PxYtU6LZfeHM2SXaMIA0x6eZ 9VYP-1QaYXr5fA6iN3fMxTXgd8XwRZ65gRZAPD9OX_nOp9eMR-5-31Kgvu5V2ysQyqD6baSSLkMF1A--PyAETOonxm3JOQBlwTc2UTLY00_55FDOQ1QLg1SJQ

It's not about the light Georgians. If we are talking about light Georgians. That is, the depigmented among the Georgians are absolutely certainly no less than among the North Caucasians (Chechens, Dagestanis, Ossetians). This is 100%. Western Georgians (Mingrelians, Svans, Imeretians, Gurians) will give odds to many North Caucasians. For example, I myself am light. As a child, I was red-haired. It's about facial features. We have very specific facial features.

user_
08-25-2020, 09:12 PM
Actually that ancient "asian" guy from Satrusrblia cave found to carry the derived HERC2 allele for blue eyes. The Satsurblia individual also likely had light skin, as he was found to carry the derived SLC24A5 allele for light skin.


This georgian guy tested himslef, and myheritage says he is 98% Asian.

https://i.ibb.co/mtcmpWb/new.jpg (https://ibb.co/RPD18wY)

https://i.ibb.co/wLZTgD0/18664293-831343043686268-8316713308091918519-n.jpg (https://ibb.co/7zxHC7Y)


https://i.ibb.co/4SsYb5F/IMG-20190228-195219.jpg (https://ibb.co/09BF0dn)

Leto
08-25-2020, 09:15 PM
For the record, 'Asian' doesn't mean Mongoloid or Sinitic if we talk about georgraphy.

vellas
08-25-2020, 09:28 PM
European:
1. Israel (because of Ashkenazim)
2. Turkey
3. Georgia

East Asian:
1. Turkey
2. Azerbaijan
3. Iran

South Asian:
1. Iran
2. Iraq
3. Oman

SSA:
1. Yemen
2. Egypt
3. Kuwait (?)

What's the lightest/whitest Middle Eastern/West Asian country in your opinion?

user_
08-25-2020, 09:30 PM
For the record, 'Asian' doesn't mean Mongoloid or Sinitic if we talk about georgraphy.

That guy could be 98% European if Satsurblia cave was located in Europe.
Today more and more people and organisations considered Georgia as South East Europe. So West Asian component can be called South East European component ))) And Georgians are 98% Europeans easily )))

vellas
08-25-2020, 09:37 PM
That guy could be 98% European if Satsurblia cave was located in Europe.
Today more and more people and organisations considered Georgia as South East Europe. So West Asian component can be called South East European component ))) And Georgians are 98% Europeans easily )))

No, Georgians share DNA with Armenians and other West Asians. If it were to be called South East Europe it'd make the rest of West Asia the same as well)))

Adamm
08-25-2020, 10:13 PM
European:

1. Israel
2. Turkey
3. Georgia