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One of the rarest combo.
Half Feinstein (Jew) + Half Sikkimese/Bhutanese (Dorji)
Assuming Jewish as pred. West Asian and the Bhutanese/Sikkimese Indian as South Asian lol. Shares 3500 cM with a full Tibeto-Burmese Dorji.
I wonder what that person looks like. Probably somewhat Central Asian.
Kaazi
12-14-2020, 04:46 AM
Checking Nepali outliers and ambiguous types.
Choosing those with closest distances. Modeled without Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal since it's based on 1 outlier sample.
Kunwar (Chhetri) - Models better with UP Brahmin. Exactly half Chhetri-half Brahmin on larger distance.
Population
Gedrosia 30.65 Pct
Siberian 2.26 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 3.09 Pct
Atlantic_Med 3.1 Pct
North_European 11.94 Pct
South_Asian 35 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.37 Pct
East_Asian 10.76 Pct
Caucasus 2.85 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Kunwar
8.35366387 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
8.53366275 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
14.97153299 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
17.53910203 PAK_Kohistani
17.93635414 Burusho
18.68081369 Kshatriya
19.55947341 Cochin_Jews
19.65277589 Jatt
19.65601180 Meena
Distance: 1.0621% / 1.06214370
Target: Kunwar | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.7 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
27.0 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
8.5 Jatt
3.8 Irish
Distance: 2.8942% / 2.89423513
Target: Kunwar | ADC: 0.5x RC
50.6 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
49.4 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
A Gedrosian shifted Chhetri (Chhetri_RLP) - shows excess Sindhi shift.
Population
Gedrosia 30.03 Pct
Siberian 3.09 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 3.67 Pct
Atlantic_Med 1.2 Pct
North_European 7.77 Pct
South_Asian 34.17 Pct
East_African 0.07 Pct
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 15.9 Pct
Caucasus 4.06 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Chhetri_RLP
3.75614164 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
14.05256204 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
19.32128878 Burusho
20.16489276 PAK_Kohistani
20.27195600 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
21.74713314 Cochin_Jews
22.79127465 Kshatriya
23.15285943 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu
23.33838469 Meena
Distance: 1.7231% / 1.72309626
Target: Chhetri_RLP | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.9 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
9.0 Burusho
4.9 Velamas
2.2 Sindhi
Distance: 1.8923% / 1.89225868
Target: Chhetri_RLP | ADC: 0.5x RC
88.6 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
8.8 Sindhi
2.6 Meena
Distance: 1.9233% / 1.92327042
Target: Chhetri_RLP | ADC: 1x RC
89.2 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
10.8 Sindhi
Bhattarai
Appears more Chhetri like than Brahmin compared to Kunwar.
Population
Gedrosia 30.06 Pct
Siberian 3.32 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 5.15 Pct
Atlantic_Med 1.61 Pct
North_European 10.58 Pct
South_Asian 32.58 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.23 Pct
East_Asian 10.36 Pct
Caucasus 6.1 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Bhattarai
7.78648188 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
9.14424409 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
15.49093283 PAK_Kohistani
16.56960772 Burusho
17.57771032 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
18.74242247 Pashtun_Yusafzai
20.15314119 Jatt
20.22259380 Cochin_Jews
20.29953448 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
20.34136918 Tajik_Kabul
Distance: 0.5551% / 0.55514672
Target: Bhattarai | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.3 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
36.3 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
8.1 Burusho
7.0 PAK_Kohistani
6.9 Khasi
3.4 Tajik_Balkh
Distance: 2.1217% / 2.12173041
Target: Bhattarai | ADC: 0.5x RC
55.6 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
30.9 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
7.1 PAK_Kohistani
6.4 Tajik_Kabul
Distance: 2.9463% / 2.94628031
Target: Bhattarai | ADC: 1x RC
54.6 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
45.4 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
Bhandari
Exactly half Brahmin half Chhetri in the larger distance.
Population
Gedrosia 31.18 Pct
Siberian 1.98 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.78 Pct
Atlantic_Med 1.63 Pct
North_European 8.7 Pct
South_Asian 34.71 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.49 Pct
East_Asian 11.07 Pct
Caucasus 6.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Bhandari
9.30659981 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
9.35826373 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
15.36555238 PAK_Kohistani
16.21196163 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
16.81611430 Burusho
17.30048265 Cochin_Jews
19.22086627 Kshatriya
19.22717348 Pashtun_Yusafzai
19.72263674 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu
19.79453713 Meena
Distance: 2.3792% / 2.37916254
Target: Bhandari | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.9 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
16.8 Iyer
15.9 Burusho
8.5 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
6.3 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
3.6 Kuwait2
Distance: 3.0628% / 3.06277106
Target: Bhandari | ADC: 0.5x RC
48.7 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
15.9 Burusho
13.2 Cochin_Jews
13.0 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
9.2 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
Distance: 4.9169% / 4.91693533
Target: Bhandari | ADC: 1x RC
50.2 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
49.8 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
Koirala
Appears more Brahmin like than Chhetri.
Population
Gedrosia 32.13 Pct
Siberian 2.75 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 3.79 Pct
Atlantic_Med 2.3 Pct
North_European 12.65 Pct
South_Asian 34.06 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.15 Pct
East_Asian 9.42 Pct
Caucasus 2.74 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Koirala
7.15976257 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
10.09008920 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
14.41173480 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
16.04094760 PAK_Kohistani
16.27624342 Burusho
17.70240944 Jatt
18.33314212 Kshatriya
18.81047846 Meena
19.90397197 Cochin_Jews
19.94697471 Pashtun_Yusafzai
Distance: 1.4833% / 1.48328894
Target: Koirala | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.8 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
20.8 Jatt
20.2 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
3.2 Finnish_East
Distance: 3.3287% / 3.32869584
Target: Koirala | ADC: 0.5x RC
60.0 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
40.0 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
Tibetan admixture is quite strongly present in all Nepali groups. Well over 10%.
Picked all seemingly Iranian Azerbaijani results from the West Asia study (there might be 1 or 2 Kurds among them):
Azerbaijani_Iran1,22.90,3.73,0,0.46,8.51,6.89,1.48 ,0.61,13.01,3.82,38.59,0
Azerbaijani_Iran2,21.36,4.02,0,0.49,6.75,9.55,3.38 ,0,13.71,2.79,37.95,0
Azerbaijani_Iran3,24.85,1.59,0.06,4.14,6.62,8.36,3 .86,0.59,12.25,0.59,37.65,0.01
Azerbaijani_Iran4,24.10,1.10,0.83,1.39,8.04,8.70,4 .19,1.12,11.92,2.66,35.80,0.15
Azerbaijani_Iran5,22.62,2.53,0.60,0.83,8.14,7.09,0 .94,0.19,12.23,4.86,39.96,0
Azerbaijani_Iran6,22.68,1.90,0.35,2.12,9.03,5.93,3 .21,0.44,12.13,3.93,37.83,0.44
Azerbaijani_Iran7,25.52,3.51,0.44,1.85,6.83,9.16,2 .61,0.36,11.55,1.91,36.24,0
Azerbaijanai_Iran8,21.64,2.09,0,0,5.93,10.53,4.14, 0.20,13.24,3.19,39.04,0
Azerbaijani_Iran9,22.34,2.15,0,1.05,6.10,9.48,3.19 ,0,12.87,2.75,39.64,0.43
Azerbaijani_Iran10,21.08,1,0.10,0,7.68,8.03,4.88,0 .15,13.53,4.14,38.99,0.42
Azerbaijani_Iran11,19.65,3.65,2.17,4.17,9.61,8.18, 2.04,0.61,11.04,1.86,36.98,0.03
Azerbaijani_Iran12,21.33,1.32,1.35,0,7.57,6.25,3.7 4,0,13.57,4.12,40.77,0
Azerbaijani_Iran13,21.59,3.31,0.50,0.22,10.14,6.58 ,4.85,0,14.74,0.99,37.03,0.04
Azerbaijani_Iran14,25.31,3.09,0,0,8.10,8.05,2.77,0 .22,12.52,3.13,36.83,0
Azerbaijani_Iran15,23.81,2.83,0.12,0.14,7.42,7.06, 2.21,0.55,13.91,3.95,38,0
Azerbaijani_Iran16,24.06,2.83,1.02,1.25,8.24,5.24, 3.43,0.39,12.64,2.64,38.26,0
Nothing surprising in terms of average, which proves that the old average is solid:
Gedrosian: 22.80
Siberian: 2.54
Northwest_African: 0.47
Southeast_Asian: 1.13
Atlantic_Med: 8.08
North_European: 7.81
South_Asian: 3.18
East_African: 0.33
Southwest_Asian: 12.80
East_Asian: 2.96
Caucasus: 38.11
Sub_Saharan: 0.09
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Iran_new
1.60944090 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.88072907 Azerbaijani
3.94196651 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.00542133 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.92275329 Yazidi
5.23068829 Zaza
5.28957465 Kurd_Sorani
5.29410049 Turkmen_Iraq
5.62353981 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.81737913 Turk_Southeast
7.41896893 Lur_Iran
7.57410061 Iranian
7.68631251 Iranian_Fars
8.05725760 Kurd_KAZ
9.04635838 Turk_Central_East
9.33782630 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.41363373 Turk_South
9.70242238 Iran_Khorasan
9.76973388 Turk_East
10.35819965 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.47705588 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.91116401 Turk_Central_West
11.17970483 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.74280205 Iran_Mazandaran
11.97210925 Syrian_B
Cool. An average Republican would score barely different from that. What kind of study is that? Anything interesting besides that? My scope of interest is wider, not just Iran/Azerbaijan.
Kaazi
12-14-2020, 10:45 AM
Tibetan admixture is quite strongly present in all Nepali groups. Well over 10%.
Yeah, true for most, however, the Brahmins from Nepali hills seem to have less than 10%. Their average (35 kits):
Nepali_Khas_Brahmin_35kits,33.65,1.83,0.09,1.39,2. 44,13.76,35.33,0.06,0.54,4.38,6.47,0.05
Siberian 1.83 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.39 Pct
East_Asian 4.38 Pct
The Tibetid admix in average Nepali Brahmins is similar to this sample.
Poudel
Population
Gedrosia 33.7 Pct
Siberian 1.8 Pct
Northwest_African 0.22 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.86 Pct
Atlantic_Med 3.06 Pct
North_European 13.59 Pct
South_Asian 35.17 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.17 Pct
East_Asian 3.87 Pct
Caucasus 5.56 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Absolutely close to the Brahmin average.
Distance to: Poudel
1.47353317 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
10.40403768 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
12.23093210 PAK_Kohistani
13.72255078 Jatt
15.09569475 Kshatriya
15.64672490 Burusho
15.65190084 Meena
16.06656155 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
16.27892195 Pashtun_Yusafzai
17.07313679 Cochin_Jews
Distance: 0.6589% / 0.65890536
Target: Poudel | ADC: 0.25x RC
81.6 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
7.3 Meena
4.0 Jatt
3.1 Cochin_Jews
2.3 Dutch_North
1.7 Khasi
Distance: 1.0330% / 1.03302872
Target: Poudel | ADC: 0.5x RC
89.7 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
8.3 Meena
2.0 Dutch_North
Also, Nepalese from Terai regions have negligible or no Tibetid admix.
Cool. An average Republican would score barely different from that. What kind of study is that? Anything interesting besides that? My scope of interest is wider, not just Iran/Azerbaijan.
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?22424-New-Autosomal-data-from-Lebanon-Armenia-Iran-Iraq-Turkey-Cyprus-Jordan-Syr-ia-Ukraine
The CNN host Kiran Chetry is half Nepali (upper cast) and half white
https://www.nepalisansar.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/kiran-chetry-1st-nepalese-anchor-in-usa.jpg
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?22424-New-Autosomal-data-from-Lebanon-Armenia-Iran-Iraq-Turkey-Cyprus-Jordan-Syr-ia-Ukraine
Dankeschön. I'm kinda reluctant to log into that forum, lol. And they don't allow you to browse without signing in. Oh well ;)
Fedora
12-14-2020, 11:04 AM
Cool. An average Republican would score barely different from that. What kind of study is that? Anything interesting besides that? My scope of interest is wider, not just Iran/Azerbaijan.
In ROA some are more caucasus shifted and have less Gedrosia/SA.
Kaazi
12-14-2020, 11:07 AM
The CNN host Kiran Chetry is half Nepali (upper cast) and half white
https://www.nepalisansar.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/kiran-chetry-1st-nepalese-anchor-in-usa.jpg
yeah, her father's Chhetri (referred in the Dodecad sheet as "Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya") and mother is White American. I know a half Chhetri half White American kit.
Jung- Half Chhetri (Nepali)- half White American The guy's closest pops are Central Asians at a very large distances. He shows a mix of Dutch and Hungarian type admix in his maternal admix?
Jung,17.54,1.16,0.36,2.44,16.76,26.46,17.3,0.00,0. 16,8.83,8.98,0.00
Population
Gedrosia 17.54 Pct
Siberian 1.16 Pct
Northwest_African 0.36 Pct
Southeast_Asian 2.44 Pct
Atlantic_Med 16.76 Pct
North_European 26.46 Pct
South_Asian 17.3 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.16 Pct
East_Asian 8.83 Pct
Caucasus 8.98 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Jung
22.36091456 Pamiri_Shughnan
22.67446361 Pamiri_Rushan
22.79332139 Pamiri_Ishkashim
23.62666502 Tajik_Balkh
23.80188858 Balkan_Gypsy
24.15744192 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
24.19091152 Tajik_Tajikistan
25.58425297 Turkmen_TKM
25.82654061 Uzbek
26.22368586 Yagnobi
26.59914096 Tajiks
27.02867921 Tajik_Kabul
27.48578360 Tatar_Kazan
27.84153911 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
28.05127092 Turk_Deliorman
28.66885767 Tajik_Herat
28.78165909 Turk_Trakya
28.81045123 Pashtun_Kandahar
29.07943603 HUN_Szekely
29.25099144 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
29.37741139 Turkmen_Afghanistan
29.58042089 Kho
29.84375814 Pashtun_Tarkalani
30.31718490 MD_Gagauz
30.33333480 MD_Center
Distance: 2.2940% / 2.29404237
Target: Jung | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.0 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
25.9 Dutch_North
20.6 HUN_Szekely
2.7 Pamiri_Ishkashim
2.5 Dutch_South
2.3 Balkan_Gypsy
Distance: 2.7836% / 2.78359531
Target: Jung | ADC: 0.5x RC
40.1 Dutch_North
39.9 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
11.5 Balkan_Gypsy
4.9 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
3.6 Pamiri_Ishkashim
Distance: 2.7836% / 2.78359531
Target: Jung | ADC: 1x RC
40.1 Dutch_North
39.9 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
11.5 Balkan_Gypsy
4.9 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
3.6 Pamiri_Ishkashim
Distance: 16.1744% / 16.17444775
Target: Jung | ADC: 2x RC
34.3 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
33.1 Pamiri_Shughnan
32.6 Balkan_Gypsy
It would be nice to have Syrians and Jordanians from that study. At least the best samples.
yeah, her father's Chhetri (referred in the Dodecad sheet as "Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya") and mother is White American. I know a half Chhetri half White American kit.
Jung- Half Chhetri (Nepali)- half White American The guy's closest pops are Central Asians at a very large distances. He shows a mix of Dutch and Hungarian type admix in his maternal admix?
Jung,17.54,1.16,0.36,2.44,16.76,26.46,17.3,0.00,0. 16,8.83,8.98,0.00
Population
Gedrosia 17.54 Pct
Siberian 1.16 Pct
Northwest_African 0.36 Pct
Southeast_Asian 2.44 Pct
Atlantic_Med 16.76 Pct
North_European 26.46 Pct
South_Asian 17.3 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.16 Pct
East_Asian 8.83 Pct
Caucasus 8.98 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Jung
22.36091456 Pamiri_Shughnan
22.67446361 Pamiri_Rushan
22.79332139 Pamiri_Ishkashim
23.62666502 Tajik_Balkh
23.80188858 Balkan_Gypsy
24.15744192 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
24.19091152 Tajik_Tajikistan
25.58425297 Turkmen_TKM
25.82654061 Uzbek
26.22368586 Yagnobi
26.59914096 Tajiks
27.02867921 Tajik_Kabul
27.48578360 Tatar_Kazan
27.84153911 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
28.05127092 Turk_Deliorman
28.66885767 Tajik_Herat
28.78165909 Turk_Trakya
28.81045123 Pashtun_Kandahar
29.07943603 HUN_Szekely
29.25099144 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
29.37741139 Turkmen_Afghanistan
29.58042089 Kho
29.84375814 Pashtun_Tarkalani
30.31718490 MD_Gagauz
30.33333480 MD_Center
Distance: 2.2940% / 2.29404237
Target: Jung | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.0 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
25.9 Dutch_North
20.6 HUN_Szekely
2.7 Pamiri_Ishkashim
2.5 Dutch_South
2.3 Balkan_Gypsy
Distance: 2.7836% / 2.78359531
Target: Jung | ADC: 0.5x RC
40.1 Dutch_North
39.9 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
11.5 Balkan_Gypsy
4.9 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
3.6 Pamiri_Ishkashim
Distance: 2.7836% / 2.78359531
Target: Jung | ADC: 1x RC
40.1 Dutch_North
39.9 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
11.5 Balkan_Gypsy
4.9 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
3.6 Pamiri_Ishkashim
Distance: 16.1744% / 16.17444775
Target: Jung | ADC: 2x RC
34.3 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
33.1 Pamiri_Shughnan
32.6 Balkan_Gypsy
Quite a lot of Mongoloid for a half Nepali.
Distance: 2.2940% / 2.29404237
Target: Jung | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.0 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
25.9 Dutch_North
20.6 HUN_Szekely
2.7 Pamiri_Ishkashim
2.5 Dutch_South
2.3 Balkan_Gypsy
His white side is rather Central European-like, possibly part Eastern Euro.
It would be nice to have Syrians and Jordanians from that study. At least the best samples.
Here is a sample size of Jordanians (about the half of all samples):
https://i.imgur.com/4t126xZ.png
One sample looks like a Circassian
There are also a good chunk of Iranian Turkmen available in the study. Will post later.
Kaazi
12-14-2020, 11:30 AM
Quite a lot of Mongoloid for a half Nepali.
Distance: 2.2940% / 2.29404237
Target: Jung | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.0 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
25.9 Dutch_North
20.6 HUN_Szekely
2.7 Pamiri_Ishkashim
2.5 Dutch_South
2.3 Balkan_Gypsy
His white side is rather Central European-like, possibly part Eastern Euro.
Actually, it's quite average Mongoloid for the respective Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya caste. His Mongoloid is 12.43% which doubles to the 24.86%. Lots of Nepalese groups are 45% - 90% Mongoloid. Kshatriya groups were more open to the racial mixing than Brahmin caste.
Dodecad Jordanian for comparison
Jordanians,9.60,0.00,5.50,0.00,10.80,0.90,0.20,4.9 0,27.90,0.10,38.00,2.10
Somewhat different from most of them but still realistic. Maybe some of the remaining ones are more like that.
The Circassian outlier
5AM66,17.49,2.67,0,0.62,7.2,14.18,1.25,0,4.35,4.15 ,48.09,0
Distance to: 5AM66
4.41417036 Ossetian
4.45748808 Circassian
5.81148862 Karachay
7.15635382 Kumyks
7.18203314 Balkar
7.98231796 Ingush
9.36821221 Abkhazian
9.94369650 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
10.25528157 Georgian
10.58260837 Turk_Ahiska
Distance: 1.0359% / 1.03594807
Target: 5AM66 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.5 Karachay
23.9 Ossetian
18.2 Georgian_Adjara
7.8 Turk_East_Black_Sea
1.6 Japanese
Distance: 1.8173% / 1.81728788
Target: 5AM66 | ADC: 0.5x RC
50.1 Karachay
25.7 Circassian
24.2 Turk_East_Black_Sea
Dodecad Jordanian for comparison
Jordanians,9.60,0.00,5.50,0.00,10.80,0.90,0.20,4.9 0,27.90,0.10,38.00,2.10
Somewhat different from most of them but still realistic. Maybe some of the remaining ones are more like that.
Yeah, I think if one would make an average it would be pretty similar.
Here some Syrians (obviously some Kurds among them):
https://i.imgur.com/EH1iNRf.png
Here some Syrians (obviously some Kurds among them):
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/EH1iNRf.png
5AJ112 is quite peculiar. Iranic with possible Turkish?
(with my gay-ass colors xD, indigo now will be for Gedrosia/Caucasus)
Gedrosia 26.09
Siberian 1.32
Northwest_African 1.51
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.83
North_European 10.99
South_Asian 2.48
East_African 0.68
Southwest_Asian 11.14
East_Asian 1.96
Caucasus 37
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: 5AJ112
5.95544289 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.04308696 Yazidi
6.33735749 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.56028963 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.71974702 Azerbaijani
7.29421689 Iranian
7.37385923 Iranian_Fars
7.55793623 Kurd_Sorani
7.55982143 Zaza
7.90037974 Azerbaijani_Turkey
Distance: 1.1442% / 1.14420735
Target: 5AJ112 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.9 Yazidi
23.6 Lezgin
10.3 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.9 Iranian_Fars
7.9 Azerbaijani
4.4 Tajiks
Distance: 1.8922% / 1.89218638
Target: 5AJ112 | ADC: 0.5x RC
45.0 Yazidi
33.9 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
21.1 Iran_Khorasan
Most Syrians look like a bunch of Arab variations (Levantine-Mesopotamian, some Euro and black here and there)
5AJ112 is quite peculiar. Iranic with possible Turkish?
(with my gay-ass colors xD, indigo now will be for Gedrosia/Caucasus)
Gedrosia 26.09
Siberian 1.32
Northwest_African 1.51
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.83
North_European 10.99
South_Asian 2.48
East_African 0.68
Southwest_Asian 11.14
East_Asian 1.96
Caucasus 37
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: 5AJ112
5.95544289 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.04308696 Yazidi
6.33735749 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.56028963 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.71974702 Azerbaijani
7.29421689 Iranian
7.37385923 Iranian_Fars
7.55793623 Kurd_Sorani
7.55982143 Zaza
7.90037974 Azerbaijani_Turkey
Distance: 1.1442% / 1.14420735
Target: 5AJ112 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.9 Yazidi
23.6 Lezgin
10.3 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.9 Iranian_Fars
7.9 Azerbaijani
4.4 Tajiks
Distance: 1.8922% / 1.89218638
Target: 5AJ112 | ADC: 0.5x RC
45.0 Yazidi
33.9 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
21.1 Iran_Khorasan
Most Syrians look like a bunch of Arab variations (Levantine-Mesopotamian, some Euro and black here and there)
Probably a Kurd
There are several Jordanian Christians among them. Also can you do the Iraqi samples?
catgeorge
12-14-2020, 12:03 PM
My maternal grandmother is from Constantinople my maternal grandfather is from Macedonia.. looking at results I think one of my great grandparents on maternal side were from Caucasus somewhere.
and quite confident to think my fathers side has Varangian lines.
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.87
2 Atlantic_Med 27.9
3 North_European 21.19
4 Southwest_Asian 6.31
5 Gedrosia 5.39
6 Northwest_African 4.06
7 Southeast_Asian 0.15
8 East_Asian 0.12
There are several Jordanian Christians among them. Also can you do the Iraqi samples?
https://i.imgur.com/J4PaHgH.png
One sample, 5AJ1, is straight up half White.
https://i.imgur.com/J4PaHgH.png
Are these on Gedmatch? I’m interested in seeing where they’re from. A lot of Assyrians on there would be easy to tell with their matches.
Are these on Gedmatch? I’m interested in seeing where they’re from. A lot of Assyrians on there would be easy to tell with their matches.
Don't think they are
The Turkish results (lots of Balkan Turkish results and a few Kurds included) sorted by their Siberian score:
https://i.imgur.com/OQ90CjJ.png
The Turkish results (lots of Balkan Turkish results and a few Kurds included) sorted by their Siberian score:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/OQ90CjJ.png
I bet Kaspias would like to pick out the Balkan ones :)
1BA60 is interesting to me
Gedrosia 19.25
Siberian 1.85
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.76
North_European 12.96
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.29
East_Asian 2.66
Caucasus 54.23
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: 1BA60
2.83795701 Abkhazian
5.58558860 Georgian
5.71877609 Georgian_Svan
6.35966194 Georgian_Gurian
7.65727105 Circassian
7.89358600 Ossetian
8.15442211 Georgian_Mingrelian
8.22536321 Turk_Ahiska
8.37209054 Georgian_Imereti
10.34324901 Kumyks
Distance: 1.2098% / 1.20981336
Target: 1BA60 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.3 Abkhazian
29.3 Georgian_Svan
20.7 Ossetian
1.7 Japanese
Distance: 1.7008% / 1.70083787
Target: 1BA60 | ADC: 0.5x RC
91.8 Abkhazian
8.2 Nogai
Looks heavily Kartvelian but at the same time with perceivable Mongoloid input.
Kaspias
12-14-2020, 05:57 PM
I bet Kaspias would like to pick out the Balkan ones :)
Yes, I already did :D
https://i.ibb.co/J39c2RT/YEN-PCA.png
Yes, I already did :D
[IMG]https://i.ibb.co/J39c2RT/YEN-PCA.png
Two of them are kinda close to Gagauz.
Kaspias
12-14-2020, 06:06 PM
Two of them are kinda close to Gagauz.
According to G25(this PCA was based on), yes. According to K12b 3BA62 is in the Deliorman Turkish range although still close to the Gagauz, and 15BA60 is actually seemed to be a Macedonian Turk. I will reevaluate all the samples by taking Dodecad K12b as a reference. I do believe that components of Dodecad K12b are superior to G25.
According to G25(this PCA was based on), yes. According to K12b 3BA62 is in the Deliorman Turkish range although still close to the Gagauz, and 15BA60 is actually seemed to be a Macedonian Turk. I will reevaluate all the samples by taking Dodecad K12b as a reference. I do believe that components of Dodecad K12b are superior to G25.
Alright.
Yes, I commend you for using D K12b, I also think it's good. Neither perfect nor professional but still useful. Many people give it a lot of shit which I disagree with. One Finnish guy was like that when I simply pointed out his averages did not reflect reality (that converstion happened in private messages).
Iranian Arabs finally:
Iran_Arab1,17.23,0,3.76,0,6.52,4.51,3.33,4.45,25.9 4,0,33.88,0.37
Iran_Arab2,14.86,0.18,3.04,0,6.31,3.58,3.73,3.01,2 5.79,2.02,36.28,0.21
Iran_arab3,16.02,1.14,1.06,1.23,7.56,3.25,2.22,4.5 5,24.59,0,36.49,1.80
Iran_Arab4,23.18,0.40,2.85,0.04,3.89,3.43,6.83,1.4 4,19.04,0.68,35.53,2.69
Iran_Arab5,18.45,0,2.95,0,7.52,4.80,3.80,3.12,22.3 9,0,34.44,2.51
Iran_Arab6,21.38,0,2,0,8.31,2.22,5.20,3.55,22.32,0 ,31.36,3.56
Average:
Gedrosian: 18.52
Siberian: 0.29
Northwest_African: 2.61
Southeast_Asian: 0.21
Atlantic_Med: 6.69
North_European: 3.63
South_Asian: 4,18
East_African: 3.35
Southwest_Asian: 23.35
East_Asian: 0.45
Caucasus: 34.63
Sub_Saharan: 1.87
Distance to: Iran_Arab
5.11187832 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.97064191 Turkmen_Iraq
10.50525583 Syrian_B
10.99588105 Kurd_Sorani
11.09973874 Mandean
11.51155072 Syrian_C
11.53150467 Iranian_Jew
11.72864442 Palestinian
12.49260982 Iraqi_Jew
12.51414000 Kurdish_Jew
12.56385689 Lebanese_Muslim
12.76202962 Jordanians
12.82902958 Syrian_A
13.44446726 Turk_Southeast
13.46552264 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.62029735 Yazidi
13.67456763 Iranian_Fars
14.11884910 Lur_Iran
14.31166308 Azeri_Jew
14.34051254 Azerbaijani_Iran
14.57228191 Assyrian_South
14.65555867 Azerbaijani
14.65945770 Zaza
14.97966956 Assyrian_North
15.20557464 Assyrian_West
Distance: 1.0797% / 1.07972099
Target: Iran_Arab | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.0 Iraqi_Baghdad
16.0 Kuwait1
11.0 Iran_Bandari
2.4 Yemenite_mixed
1.6 Parsi_India
Good. Is there full Balochis from Iran in that study?
Good. Is there full Balochis from Iran in that study?
Yes and they are close to the average we got. Will post them tomorrow.
Yes and they are close to the average we got. Will post them tomorrow.
Black admixture in the existing one bugs me a little bit. I would prefer to pick the purest possible ones.
This guy is a match of user War Chief. From the Kabardino-Balkar republic but he must have some type of Nogai ancestry too. The additional Turkic is just blatant
J-M172
Gedrosia 16.1 Pct
Siberian 7.13 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 7.46 Pct
North_European 19.11 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.07 Pct
Southwest_Asian 2.43 Pct
East_Asian 5.45 Pct
Caucasus 42.25 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Aslan
4.40445229 Karachay
5.14591100 Balkar
8.08612392 Kumyks
8.36617595 Ossetian
8.92002242 Circassian
8.92191683 Ingush
9.65989648 Chechen
9.88278807 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
10.19640133 Qumuq
11.30401699 Nogai
Distance: 1.5022% / 1.50215936
Target: Aslan | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.9 Karachay
15.9 Nogai
3.1 Albanian
2.1 Dolgan
Distance: 2.0247% / 2.02471413
Target: Aslan | ADC: 0.5x RC
71.6 Karachay
23.5 Nogai
4.9 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
Potentially an Afro-Iranian (or partially):
Gedrosian: 26.35
Siberian: 0.56
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.48
Atlantic_Med: 1.34
North_European: 4.83
South_Asian: 11.28
East_African: 3.92
Southwest_Asian: 9.81
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasus: 17.67
Sub_Saharan: 23.77
Distance to: Afro_Iranian
22.01465875 Iran_Bandari
26.73352203 Tajik_Herat
26.88898287 Balochi
27.48944161 Parsi_India
28.66259060 Tajik_Kabul
29.20849705 Pashtun_Kandahar
29.23796334 Tajik_Balkh
29.26453998 Iran_Khorasan
29.78078239 Turkmen
29.83823554 Turkmen_Iran
30.05805716 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
30.31200587 Iranian_Fars
30.69926546 Pashtun_Tarkalani
30.86985261 Tajik_Tajikistan
31.05230587 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
31.32964411 Pashtun_Yusafzai
31.44063454 Tajiks
32.38979623 Yagnobi
32.38996913 Pamiri_Ishkashim
32.48541365 Kho
33.24294361 Pamiri_Shughnan
33.41293013 Iran_Mazandaran
33.51774903 Pamiri_Rushan
33.57475093 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
33.75643790 Kurd_Sorani
Distance: 1.9847% / 1.98471422
Target: Afro_Iranian | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.0 Iran_Bandari
22.7 Bantu_S.E._Tswana
10.4 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
1.9 Yemenite_mixed
https://i.imgur.com/J4PaHgH.png
Do you have the rest?
Azerbaijani from Hashtrud (all 4 grandparents from the same village):
https://gadm.org/img/480/gadm/IRN/eastazarbaijan/hashtrud/IRN_eastazarbaijan_hashtrud_adm1_divs.png
Gedrosian: 20.61
Siberian: 3.94
Northwest_African: 0.72
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 8.81
North_European: 8.71
South_Asian: 1.93
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.84
East_Asian: 1.33
Caucasus: 42.10
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Hashtrud
3.18905942 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.29879053 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.71318364 Azerbaijani
5.11634635 Zaza
5.51336558 Turk_East
5.71227625 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.74350067 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.00614685 Turk_Southeast
6.45342545 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.88289910 Turk_Central_East
7.86484583 Turkmen_Iraq
8.02139639 Yazidi
8.30996390 Kurd_Sorani
8.52838789 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.56014019 Turk_South
8.80736624 Kurd_KAZ
9.74475243 Turk_Central_West
9.79947448 Iranian
10.23261452 Armenian_East
10.32649021 Lur_Iran
10.57194873 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.56140130 Azeri_Jew
11.85302493 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.97475261 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.98489466 Syrian_B
Distance: 2.2842% / 2.28418250
Target: Azerbaijani_Hashtrud | ADC: 1x RC
70.2 Azerbaijani_Turkey
29.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
Kaazi
12-16-2020, 10:56 AM
Testing Nepali Brahmins/Bahuns:
Acharya -Gedrosian shifted Bahun; shows Burusho shift
Population
Gedrosia 35.89 Pct
Siberian 0.46 Pct
Northwest_African 0.24 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 0.54 Pct
North_European 14.23 Pct
South_Asian 35.12 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.61 Pct
East_Asian 5.83 Pct
Caucasus 7.08 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Acharya
3.89996154 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
10.80214331 PAK_Kohistani
11.11888484 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
12.85335754 Jatt
13.46512532 Burusho
15.59199474 Pashtun_Yusafzai
15.78364977 Kshatriya
15.98041301 Meena
16.46347472 Pathan
16.71121779 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
17.33953863 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
17.52968054 Kalash
17.68675776 Pashtun_Tarkalani
17.69523100 Kho
18.02560679 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu
18.05268955 Nuristani
18.68705434 Cochin_Jews
18.71084178 Sindhi
20.21536297 Iyer
20.73213930 Iyengar
20.83018483 Tajik_Kabul
21.48218564 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
22.77453841 Lambadi
23.05093491 Bengali
23.20701618 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
Distance: 2.7800% / 2.77998611
Target: Acharya | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.0 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
21.2 Burusho
17.8 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
same admix for 0.5x
Adhikari - High Caucasus. Appears closer to the Kohistani from Pakistan. Almost half Kohistani - half Nepali Brahmin/Bahun.
Population
Gedrosia 33.76 Pct
Siberian 3.1 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.15 Pct
Atlantic_Med 1.94 Pct
North_European 12.76 Pct
South_Asian 31.19 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 4.86 Pct
Caucasus 10.73 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.52 Pct
Distance to: Adhikari
6.24294802 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
7.62158776 PAK_Kohistani
10.86824733 Pashtun_Yusafzai
12.29220485 Burusho
12.69765726 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
13.24046449 Pashtun_Tarkalani
13.48579623 Kho
14.06556789 Kalash
14.28988104 Pathan
14.49659615 Nuristani
14.50774621 Jatt
15.18803147 Tajik_Kabul
15.98625347 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
16.58368174 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
16.58698888 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
18.47680979 Pashtun_Kandahar
19.40492979 Tajik_Balkh
20.02773826 Meena
20.16839855 Kshatriya
20.29578035 Cochin_Jews
20.32973930 Sindhi
20.35869102 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
21.12502544 Pamiri_Ishkashim
21.77302459 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu
24.26703525 Tajik_Herat
Distance: 1.4263% / 1.42629377
Target: Adhikari | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.7 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
32.2 PAK_Kohistani
16.4 Tajik_Balkh
2.3 Pulliyar
1.4 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
Distance: 1.8094% / 1.80943986
Target: Adhikari | ADC: 0.5x RC
59.8 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
24.7 PAK_Kohistani
15.5 Tajik_Balkh
Distance: 3.6338% / 3.63381912
Target: Adhikari | ADC: 1x RC
56.9 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
43.1 PAK_Kohistani
Do you have the rest?
I think those should be the rest, please check if there are some duplicates with the other half:
https://i.imgur.com/ZHgYzTo.jpg
Let's separate Jordanian Christians, I'm interested in their average. @Kyp, screenshot the rest of the Syrians and Jordanians please.
Let's separate Jordanian Christians, I'm interested in their average. @Kyp, screenshot the rest of the Syrians and Jordanians please.
Syrians:
https://i.imgur.com/Sji1cdz.png
I'm sorry I picked the Jordanians randomly, it would take too long to figure out which ones I haven't send. Maybe later I post all of them again
Aren or maybe someone else too should try and make sense of those samples. Some might be good for Vahaduo averages. I can't do this myself 'cause I don't know enough about the Middle East.
Ahiska Turk from Ardahan,Turkey:
Gedrosian: 18.80
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.15
North_European: 8.73
South_Asian: 0.78
East_African: 0.50
Southwest_Asian: 10.66
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasus: 54.30
Sub_Saharan: 0.10
Distance to: Ahiska_Turk
2.56281096 Turk_Ahiska
3.59530249 Georgian
6.02461617 Hemshin
6.14199479 Laz
6.31840170 Georgian_Turkey
6.70786851 Georgian_Imereti
6.99454788 Georgian_Adjara
7.04090193 Georgian_Gurian
7.18226984 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.42256021 Abkhazian
7.72571680 Armenian_East
8.95265882 Greek_Pontus
9.00236636 Georgian_Mingrelian
9.26252665 Georgian_Svan
9.31365664 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.18132113 Turk_East
11.02877600 Armenian_West
13.20094694 Circassian
13.54728386 Ossetian
13.57909054 Azeri_Jew
13.58149108 Assyrian_North
13.98846310 Assyrian_West
14.10182612 Zaza
14.17772196 Assyrian_South
14.53462762 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Distance: 2.1958% / 2.19575478
Target: Ahiska_Turk | ADC: 0.5x RC
77.2 Turk_Ahiska
15.5 Georgian_Gurian
7.3 Hemshin
Mejgusu
12-16-2020, 08:16 PM
Yazidi from Armenia, originally from Kars:
Gedrosian: 24.68 Pct
Siberian: 2.61 Pct
Northwest_African: 1.45 Pct
Southeast_Asian: 0.49 pct
Atlantic_Med: 7.41 pct
North_European: 8.08 Pct
South_Asian: 1.57 Pct
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 12.23 Pct
East_Asian: -
Caucasus: 41.28 Pct
Sub_Saharan: 0.23 Pct
Distance to: Arm_Yez
3.09864487 Zaza
3.10948549 Talysh_Azerbaijan
3.37778034 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.68894444 Yazidi
4.69247270 Kurd_KAZ
4.85330815 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.70795060 Iranian
6.02166920 Kurd_Sorani
6.18780252 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.55738515 Azerbaijani
6.69416910 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.74683630 Lur_Iran
7.10502639 Turkmen_Iraq
8.75781936 Turk_East
9.07629881 Turk_Southeast
9.38790179 Iranian_Fars
10.09058472 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.24187971 Iran_Mazandaran
11.16439430 Turk_Central_East
12.22400098 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.43605243 Turk_South
12.44588285 Azeri_Jew
12.44912848 Armenian_East
12.68581491 Iran_Khorasan
12.87158110 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
Target: Arm_Yez
47.3 Kurd_KAZ
37.2 Zaza
11.4 Ingush
2.2 Algerian
1.9 Ket
Lucas
12-16-2020, 10:44 PM
Maronites
Maronites__11TD1,11.18,0,4.52,0,16.07,2.03,0,0.91, 21.45,0,43.84,0
Maronites__11TD23,12.47,0,2.9,0,16.15,0.53,0,0.55, 23.79,0.26,43.36,0
Maronites__11TD24,11.72,0,3.34,0,14.14,1.94,0.4,0. 63,22.77,0,45.05,0
Maronites_12TD23,9.91,0.32,3.76,0,14.34,3.3,0.46,0 .09,22.38,0,45.3,0.14
Maronites_12TD24,13.34,0.59,2.03,0.06,14.25,1.85,0 ,2.46,23.53,0,41.88,0
Maronites_13TD23,11.82,0.1,3.3,0,20.3,0.05,0.57,0. 53,21.5,0,41.84,0
Maronites_14TD23,11.68,0,2.55,0.85,17.41,4.99,0.59 ,0.32,21.77,0,39.84,0
Maronites_14TD24,12.18,0,4.45,0,16.16,1.37,0.3,0.8 4,22.52,0.78,41.4,0
Maronites_16TD24,11.08,0,2.43,0,17.2,2.19,0,1.36,2 2.71,0,43.04,0
Maronites_18TD23,12.13,0,4.97,0,15.21,2.23,0,0.59, 22.02,0,42.85,0
Maronites_18TD24,11.12,0,3.24,0,15.81,3.77,0,0.8,2 1.28,0.19,43.79,0
Maronites_18TD25,10.24,0,6.1,0,16.18,2.69,0,0.04,2 1.25,0,43.29,0.2
Maronites_19TD23,10.26,0,2.42,0.88,14.66,1.12,0,1. 66,24.11,0,44.88,0
Maronites_19TD25,11.77,0.62,3.68,0,16.76,1.9,0,1.1 8,21.19,0,42.73,0.18
Maronites_1TD26,11.87,0.11,3.98,0,19.07,1.3,0.68,0 ,22.15,0,40.83,0
Maronites_20TD23,9.67,0,3.85,0.28,16.04,2.78,0,1.0 1,24.84,0,41.53,0
Maronites_20TD24,10.43,0,5.2,0,15.86,0.14,0,0.54,2 2.01,0.77,45.04,0
Maronites_20TD25,11.31,0,5.26,0,14.82,1.41,0,0.74, 21.91,0,44.55,0
Maronites_21TD24,10.62,0,2.99,0.07,16.31,4.25,0.58 ,0.84,20.26,0,44.08,0
Maronites_21TD25,9.06,0,4.57,0,17.7,2.46,0,0.93,22 .52,0,42.75,0
Maronites_22TD23,12.38,0.1,3,0.16,14.68,1.56,0,1.6 ,22.23,0,44.17,0.12
Maronites_22TD25,12.8,0.07,3.78,0.3,15.46,1.43,0,0 .87,23.39,0,41.9,0
Maronites_23TD25,12.42,0,3.48,0,13.27,2.59,0.23,1. 04,21.95,0,44.84,0.17
Maronites_24TD23,10.61,0,4.13,0,14.49,2.08,0.32,1. 13,21.62,0,45.63,0
Maronites_25TD25,10.33,0.45,4.67,0.3,12.84,1.16,1. 01,0.88,23.93,0,44.42,0
Maronites_26TD23,13.23,0,3.37,0,14.92,2.14,0,0.9,2 4.42,0.16,40.86,0
Maronites_26TD25,9.98,0,5.23,0,16.03,2.66,0,1.09,2 2.85,0.18,41.97,0
Maronites_27TD24,12.47,0,5.1,0,14.14,1.71,0.02,0.2 5,22.38,0,43.93,0
Maronites_27TD25,11.69,0,3.77,0.57,13.16,2.41,0,0. 26,22.31,0,45.83,0
Maronites_28TD24,8.64,0,2.03,0.41,16.68,3.4,0,0.63 ,23.41,0.51,44.29,0
Maronites_2TD1,12.43,0,4.99,0,14.82,1.43,0.3,1.1,2 0.92,0,44.01,0
Maronites_2TD25,11.39,0,4.46,0,13.14,1.61,0,0.7,21 .95,0,46.76,0
Maronites_3TD23,11.95,0,4.12,0,15.16,1.8,1.55,1.24 ,23.17,0,41.03,0
Maronites_3TD24,9.78,0,3.19,0,16,3.07,0,0,22.89,0, 45.07,0
Maronites_3TD26,11.57,0,3.96,0,14.15,1.59,0,1.02,2 3.1,0,44.61,0
Maronites_4TD1,8.72,0,4.13,0.39,16.92,0,0,1.08,22. 66,0,46.11,0
Maronites_4TD23,11.55,0,3.3,0,15.89,1.44,0,1.15,25 .56,0.74,40.38,0
Maronites_4TD24,12.86,0,3.6,0.01,16.14,0,0,1.05,22 .87,0,43.46,0
Maronites_4TD25,9.39,0,3.56,0,15.36,1.65,0,0,21.46 ,1.15,47.42,0
Maronites_4TD26,11.8,0.53,4.65,0.01,15.46,0.31,0.2 2,0.82,22.85,0.11,43.23,0
Maronites_5TD23,12.08,0.4,4.21,0,15.26,1.54,0,1.19 ,23.4,0,41.93,0
Maronites_5TD25,10.63,0,4.65,0,14.84,1.48,0,0.21,2 2.44,0.19,45.35,0.21
Maronites_6TD24,9.79,0.39,3.02,0.25,16.3,2.5,0.54, 1.27,20.39,0,45.54,0
Maronites_6TD26,11.91,0.58,3.93,0,14.64,1.59,0,1.2 7,21.81,0.27,44.01,0
Maronites_7TD23,13.59,0,3.47,0.38,15.98,0.61,0,1.1 1,21.82,0,43.04,0
Maronites_7TD25,11.87,0,3.74,0,16.01,4.24,0.3,0.35 ,22.92,0,40.58,0
Maronites_8TD1,9.44,0,3.55,0,13.25,4.61,0.67,0.61, 23.3,0,44.56,0
Maronites_8TD25,12.86,0,2.31,0,15.34,1.78,0,1.56,2 2.31,0,43.85,0
Maronites_8TD26,10.29,0,4.82,0,15.33,1.89,0,0.41,2 4.08,1.13,42.04,0
Maronites_9TD1,11.97,0,4.67,0,14.51,0,0,0.58,21.72 ,0,46.55,0
Maronites_9TD23,13.72,0.14,2.48,0,14.57,0.27,0.02, 1.65,23.13,0,44.03,0
Maronites_9TD24,11.55,0,4.5,0.29,13.01,2.33,0,0.03 ,23.9,0,44.39,0
Maronites_9TD25,9.91,0.29,2.99,0,16.63,1.92,0,1.13 ,25.1,0.38,41.65,0
Damn, that's huge. But I think one simple Lebanese_Christian is enough. Not a huge difference and not a big country either.
Dr_Maul
12-16-2020, 10:48 PM
Yazidi from Armenia, originally from Kars:
A fellow 0% East asian with 1-3% Siberian brother, respect
Lucas
12-16-2020, 10:50 PM
What was posted before (Jordanian, Sytrian, Turkish, IRaqi) were not all samples. I will check all and post soon. Without any cherrypicking:)
Now Shia
Shiia_Beirut_10AT105,13.15,0,4.29,0,15.46,0.5,0.91 ,2.59,21.07,1.38,40.25,0.4
Shiia_Beirut_10AT108,12.35,0,2.99,0.05,10.96,2.82, 3.61,6.71,25.05,0,31.61,3.84
Shiia_Beirut_10AT110,10,0,5.21,0,13.83,4.04,1.05,2 .77,21.61,0,41.49,0
Shiia_Beirut_10AT112,13.42,0.87,4.96,0.57,12.89,3. 61,0.86,2.16,20.83,0,38.75,1.08
Shiia_Beirut_11AT108,23.16,1.9,4.16,2.33,6.35,5.46 ,22.16,0.19,8.94,0,25.34,0
Shiia_Beirut_12AT109,21.27,0.66,2.15,0.4,12.12,3.7 6,1.45,1.08,14.52,1.16,41.44,0
Shiia_Beirut_12AT114,15.36,1.16,2.7,0,13.03,5.41,1 .39,2,17.75,0.14,41.07,0
Shiia_Beirut_13AT106,13.93,0.33,3.24,0.92,14.31,2. 09,0.72,2.64,20.89,0,40.36,0.57
Shiia_Beirut_13AT113,13.59,0.25,3.16,0,15.43,4,1.6 5,1.64,17.48,0,42.49,0.31
Shiia_Beirut_13AT114,10.83,0,4.68,0,11.24,5.58,1.3 2,1.16,21.53,0,43.15,0.52
Shiia_Beirut_15AT106,14.61,0,2.76,0.63,9.25,2.56,0 .99,2.1,22.94,2.38,39.74,2.04
Shiia_Beirut_15AT107,13.35,0.31,5.03,2.1,11.03,2.1 7,1.08,3.93,22.78,0,38.18,0.04
Shiia_Beirut_15AT110,12.19,0,3.3,0.39,14.92,1.27,0 .82,4,20.03,0.23,41.36,1.49
Shiia_Beirut_15AT112,14.26,0.81,3.44,0,15.5,3.55,1 .88,3.8,18.83,0,37.94,0
Shiia_Beirut_15AT114,12.18,0.49,3.9,0.41,12.13,2.6 3,1.02,1.61,21.15,0,43.9,0.58
Shiia_Beirut_16AT111,11.69,0,5.68,0,14.31,4.11,1.6 6,2.71,20.61,0,39.22,0
Shiia_Beirut_1AT107,11.45,0,3.68,0.95,11.15,2.87,1 .88,4.37,25.41,0,37.08,1.15
Shiia_Beirut_1AT110,12.25,1.71,4.68,0,14.55,4.11,1 .26,1.65,19.24,0,40.21,0.34
Shiia_Beirut_2AT112,11.78,0.29,4.74,0.21,15.42,2.0 9,1.82,1.99,19.39,0.07,41.71,0.5
Shiia_Beirut_3AT109,13.68,0,2.86,0,9.12,3.14,3.5,3 .27,23.22,1.6,38,1.59
Shiia_Beirut_3AT115,13.64,0.03,3.89,0,13.93,3.71,2 .26,1.89,22.3,0.04,38.09,0.21
Shiia_Beirut_4AT107,12.04,0,4.06,0.44,15.75,1.68,1 .81,2.33,22.42,0,39.46,0
Shiia_Beirut_4AT110,13.56,0,2.87,0,17.58,0,1.57,1. 02,19.4,0,43.58,0.42
Shiia_Beirut_4AT114,9.07,0,8.79,1.57,13.63,2.12,0. 59,6.05,23.9,0,30.77,3.5
Shiia_Beirut_5AT114,13.56,0.12,4.27,0,12.71,5.21,0 .84,3.51,20.93,0.49,37,1.35
Shiia_Beirut_6AT106,13.65,0,2.69,0,16.78,0.68,0,2. 66,18.26,1.75,42.36,1.15
Shiia_Beirut_6AT112,12.93,0.68,4.1,0,13.11,3.24,1. 96,2.95,20.68,0,39.94,0.4
Shiia_Beirut_6AT114,17.59,0,2.41,0.99,6.27,2.5,4.2 4,5.58,25.79,0.66,32.4,1.56
Shiia_Beirut_7AT107,13.24,0.44,2.17,1.33,8.82,3.34 ,1.64,4.37,24.97,0,38.82,0.85
Shiia_Beirut_7AT109,11.01,0,4.48,0.44,13.43,1.59,1 .04,4.51,24.42,0,38.73,0.35
Shiia_Beirut_7AT112,11.68,0.2,5.71,0,14.58,1.8,0,2 .13,20.52,0,42.9,0.47
Shiia_Beirut_7AT113,13.56,0,4.01,0,15.64,0.89,0,3. 18,22.78,0,39.94,0
Shiia_Beirut_8AT108,11.14,0.35,3.32,0,17.69,3.71,0 ,2.11,21.18,0,40.49,0
Shiia_Beirut_8AT110,14.57,0,7.95,0.63,11.72,2.25,1 .24,5.32,20.42,0,34.12,1.78
Shiia_Beirut_9AT112,13.83,0,1.06,1.03,15.37,2.45,1 .25,1.87,20.42,0,41.25,1.47
We'll prolly have to replace the existing Jordanian and Syrian averages. I hope Aren wouldn't mind doing that himself ;)
Lucas
12-16-2020, 11:02 PM
Damn, that's huge. But I think one simple Lebanese_Christian is enough. Not a huge difference and not a big country either.
You will compare, soon Orthodox too. When I started to check I'm checking all:) 5 minutes on every group, not big deal:)
Now Sunni
Sunni_Beirut_10AT109,9.45,0.19,8.98,0.52,9.13,5.82 ,0.44,4.33,20.74,0,37.09,3.3
Sunni_Beirut_11AT109,12.55,0,5.29,1.77,13.73,1.02, 0,4.35,22.62,0,37.69,0.98
Sunni_Beirut_11AT111,10.39,0.23,4.91,0.62,12.22,1. 3,2.7,5.62,22.42,0,38.95,0.63
Sunni_Beirut_11AT115,14.11,1.53,3.87,0,13.6,1.03,1 .2,4.12,21.16,0,38.52,0.85
Sunni_Beirut_12AT107,12.62,0,4.39,0,16.01,3.22,0.4 ,2.3,20.17,0.46,40.09,0.34
Sunni_Beirut_12AT108,15.95,0,2,0.48,12.12,3.4,1.62 ,2.24,18.7,1.36,39.41,2.73
Sunni_Beirut_12AT110,12.56,0,3.39,0,15.12,4.75,0,1 .14,18.6,0,43.92,0.53
Sunni_Beirut_12AT113,11.6,1.05,4.83,0.3,11.77,1.75 ,1.84,2.54,21.63,0,40.31,2.38
Sunni_Beirut_13AT105,13.14,1.54,4.93,0,14.04,0.65, 0,2.26,21.82,0,40.31,1.32
Sunni_Beirut_13AT111,8.42,0.69,6.77,0,13.84,2.65,0 ,5.87,20.92,1.22,34.62,5.01
Sunni_Beirut_13AT112,16.85,0.21,2.9,0.11,9.19,2.79 ,5.52,3.96,28.17,0,29.56,0.74
Sunni_Beirut_13AT115,15.72,0.64,1.68,0,11,4.18,0,0 ,15.55,0.31,50.92,0
Sunni_Beirut_14AT105,10.87,0.63,2.96,0,16.07,0,0,3 .19,23.11,0.48,42.13,0.56
Sunni_Beirut_14AT110,8.33,0.31,6.38,0,15.28,0.26,0 .75,3.28,23.54,0,41.67,0.19
Sunni_Beirut_14AT112,11.96,0,4.91,0.58,14.36,2.57, 0.48,5.54,20.9,0,36.56,2.15
Sunni_Beirut_15AT109,9.43,0,4.65,0.98,13.78,5.09,0 ,4.02,22.73,0,38.23,1.08
Sunni_Beirut_16AT107,10.27,0.28,3.98,0,15.1,4.31,0 .08,4.97,21.19,0.4,38.16,1.27
Sunni_Beirut_16AT110,13.31,0.63,3.2,0.17,13.84,6.3 6,0.51,2.08,19.77,0.5,39.4,0.22
Sunni_Beirut_16AT113,9.7,0,5.42,0,12.11,3.6,0.93,7 .76,22.18,0.7,34.84,2.77
Sunni_Beirut_2AT106,14.99,0.52,4.79,0.36,11.12,6.4 6,0.35,1.11,16.48,2.31,40.86,0.65
Sunni_Beirut_2AT113,12.74,1.33,3.17,0,14.13,4.01,0 .24,3.39,21.28,1.03,38.68,0
Sunni_Beirut_2AT114,13.48,1.61,3.17,0.9,13.6,4.87, 1.72,3.45,17.46,0.8,37.8,1.12
Sunni_Beirut_3AT106,14.52,0,4.02,0,14.78,4.62,0,3. 1,18.58,1.71,37.63,1.04
Sunni_Beirut_3AT108,13.42,1.34,4.29,0,13.81,1.06,0 .58,3.51,22.13,0.1,39.64,0.11
Sunni_Beirut_3AT110,9.57,0,6.53,0.57,15.41,4.9,0,4 .69,18.57,0.32,36.7,2.74
Sunni_Beirut_3AT112,14.75,0.7,4.24,0.91,13.32,4.3, 0.7,3.51,18.06,0.35,37.49,1.67
Sunni_Beirut_4AT106,3.95,0.85,11.08,0,9.96,0,0,13. 73,27.31,0,26.08,7.04
Sunni_Beirut_4AT108,11.74,0,5.71,0.6,14.48,2.61,1. 17,2.72,22.02,0,37.1,1.86
Sunni_Beirut_4AT109,18.81,0.39,1.35,1.25,9.47,4.66 ,2.8,0.57,17.11,0,43.4,0.19
Sunni_Beirut_4AT111,21.73,1.19,1.53,1.85,6.49,6.22 ,0.57,1.61,15.47,0.76,42.58,0
Sunni_Beirut_4AT112,13.17,1.1,4.79,0,14.95,0.4,0.3 2,1.47,18.49,0,44.99,0.32
Sunni_Beirut_4AT115,12.47,1.05,4.62,1.74,14.27,5.5 ,0,5.72,15.09,0,35.18,4.36
Sunni_Beirut_5AT106,11.21,0.06,3.6,0,12.59,3.31,1. 11,2.58,19.79,0,44.49,1.26
Sunni_Beirut_5AT109,12.47,0,5.73,0,11.82,4.33,1.4, 3.15,19.46,1.2,37.51,2.92
Sunni_Beirut_5AT110,5.08,0,10.12,0,12.03,0,0.66,11 .67,25.37,0,27.56,7.51
Sunni_Beirut_5AT115,16.84,1.12,4.8,0,12.33,6.08,2. 32,2.14,18.24,0.64,35.42,0.08
Sunni_Beirut_6AT108,10.59,0.25,4.35,0,12.08,3.38,0 ,4.82,22.77,0,38.54,3.22
Sunni_Beirut_6AT109,12.25,0.41,7.91,0.9,13.19,1.29 ,0.08,6.26,21.97,0.54,31.98,3.23
Sunni_Beirut_6AT115,15.54,0.49,4.19,0.35,12.22,4.0 5,1.3,3.49,18.82,0,39.4,0.13
Sunni_Beirut_7AT105,5.38,0,5.56,0,11.24,1.62,0.98, 10.4,18.81,1.39,30,14.61
Sunni_Beirut_7AT111,12.74,0.54,3.8,0,14.34,0.95,0. 35,3.01,22.35,0.55,38.93,2.43
Sunni_Beirut_7AT114,13.94,0.6,3.77,0,14.28,2.69,0, 1.43,20.17,0.05,42.7,0.36
Sunni_Beirut_7AT115,9.32,0.15,4.7,0.54,11.98,4.81, 1.07,4.74,22.59,0,38.74,1.38
Sunni_Beirut_8AT109,12.1,0,1.54,0.71,15.98,5.71,0, 1.56,19.45,0,42.63,0.33
Sunni_Beirut_9AT107,14.03,0.73,5.32,0.04,14.33,3.0 2,1.15,1.87,19.85,0.2,36.76,2.69
Sunni_Beirut_9AT110,15.4,0,3.52,0.11,15.48,1.26,1. 71,2.15,20.75,0.32,38.45,0.84
Sunni_Beirut_9AT111,10.32,0.17,4.1,0.6,12.9,3.37,0 ,4.78,21,1.55,39.8,1.39
We'll prolly have to replace the existing Jordanian and Syrian averages. I hope Aren wouldn't mind doing that himself ;)
I saw Lucas just posted the Sunni and Shia samples, my bet is that those averages will be a bit different than the Lebanese Muslim average we have no, probably more SW Asian and less Atlantic_Med. Same for the Syrian averages.
But there are two Assyrians among the Syrians and several Levantine Christians.
Lucas
12-16-2020, 11:09 PM
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_11TD14,9.65,0,4.22,0,17.34,1 .41,0.49,0.71,22.79,0,43.39,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_12TD21,10.32,0,4.15,0,17.9,1 .3,0,0.99,22.69,0,42.65,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_12TD8,10.99,0,4.1,0,16.59,0, 0.45,0.36,23.84,0.05,43.61,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_13TD2,11.64,0,2.11,0,13.43,3 .92,0.78,0.83,20.38,0.42,46.49,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_13TD5,13.61,0,2.49,0,13.54,2 .35,0,0,20.75,0,47.27,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_15TD15,12.1,0,3.02,0.23,17.3 2,0,0,0.97,24.42,0.17,41.71,0.06
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_15TD19,11.62,0,5.59,0,15.25, 0,0,0.66,23.41,0,43.48,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_15TD4,7.36,0,4.38,0,16.06,2. 14,0.99,0.82,25.01,0,43.24,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_16TD14,13.12,0.52,1.77,0,12. 96,2.02,0,0.98,21.89,0,46.74,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_16TD5,11.95,0,4.57,0.98,17.8 2,0.48,0.49,0,21.73,0,41.97,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_16TD9,10.79,0.19,4.12,0,15.8 4,0.84,0,0.53,22.66,0.65,44.38,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_17TD11,11.05,0,3.68,0,15.09, 2.3,0,1.3,23.2,0,43.39,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_18TD13,12.42,0,4.51,0,16.4,1 .27,0.24,0.68,19.8,0.16,44.53,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_18TD14,9.37,0,4.32,0,17,0.41 ,0.27,1.31,25.26,0.19,41.88,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_18TD19,11.31,0,2.08,0,16.1,0 .65,0,1.62,24.75,0,43.5,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_18TD21,12.43,0,1.93,0.2,15.7 9,1.92,0.67,0.82,22.49,0,43.76,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_19TD11,10.24,0.31,3.18,0,15. 97,0,0.83,1.53,22.46,0,45.49,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_1TD9,11.18,0,3.27,0,16.34,1. 56,0,0,22.89,0,44.33,0.42
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_21TD15,12.28,0,4.14,0.67,15. 9,0.32,0,0.54,22.82,0,43.33,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_21TD19,13.08,0,2.9,0,19.78,0 ,0.7,1.34,20.86,0.22,41.12,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_21TD4,8.72,0.14,3.21,0,15.32 ,0,0.59,0.74,23.98,0.76,46.54,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_23TD12,9.07,0,2.13,0,14.28,3 .11,1.02,2.38,22.38,0,45.63,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_23TD13,12.47,0,4.01,0,13.27, 1.27,0.62,1.73,23.2,0.04,43.39,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_23TD17,11.15,0,4.46,0,16.85, 2.86,0.1,0.48,21.28,0,42.67,0.15
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_23TD19,10.95,0,5.16,0.17,15. 07,1.9,0,1.59,22.84,0,42.32,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_24TD19,12.96,0,2.79,0,12.68, 2.31,0,1.47,23.21,0.18,44.41,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_25TD12,9.16,0.6,2.16,0.08,16 .95,1.88,0.11,1.15,24.12,0,43.78,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_25TD4,10.74,0,4.83,0,13.65,3 .06,0,1.76,22.6,0,43.34,0.02
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_2TD10,9.3,0.07,6.06,0.42,16. 84,0,0.56,0.61,22.3,0,43.85,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_2TD17,11.24,0,3.89,0.42,16.6 2,1.64,0,0.45,23.23,0,42.37,0.15
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_2TD3,13.3,0.41,3.01,0,12.11, 0.78,0,0,21.08,0,49.03,0.27
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_5TD14,13.33,0.43,3.43,0,15.3 7,0.5,0.03,0.5,22.87,0.25,43.29,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_5TD16,12.23,0.68,5.3,0,15.61 ,0,0.21,0.21,23.97,0,41.78,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_5TD6,12.87,0,4.01,0,16.72,2. 36,0.35,0.94,21.42,0,41.33,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_6TD12,12.95,0.69,2.46,0,15.1 6,0.63,0.07,0.49,22.05,0.21,45.3,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_6TD15,8.92,0,5.21,0,14.43,1. 57,0.05,1.07,24.5,0,44.23,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_6TD2,12.78,0.76,4.47,0,14.37 ,0.69,0,1.12,23.34,0,42.47,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_6TD20,9.97,0,4.23,0,14.82,0. 24,0,0.44,25,0.66,44.63,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_7TD2,11.87,0.04,3.28,0.13,16 .62,0,0.52,0.13,24.14,0,43.26,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_7TD20,10.32,0.08,2.27,0,15.9 8,2.6,0.74,0.18,23.4,0,44.42,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_7TD4,9.83,0,4.11,0.42,13.03, 2.65,0.07,1.29,23.32,0,45.28,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_8TD21,10.42,0,3.72,0.13,14.5 3,2.3,0.15,0.83,21.89,0.2,45.82,0
Greek_Orthodox_Beirut_9TD6,11.27,0,5.38,0,16.22,2. 63,0,0.74,21.44,0,42.31,0
Lucas
12-16-2020, 11:15 PM
50 iraqis
Iraq_10BA65,20.5,0,0,0,9.25,1.64,2.03,0.2,17.15,0, 49.22,0
Iraq_10BA66,19.09,0,2.06,0.91,9.61,2.82,0.06,0.06, 20.54,0,44.86,0
Iraq_11AR126,20.06,0.4,0.99,0,11.77,2.94,1.27,0.41 ,20.05,0,42.11,0
Iraq_11BA65,20.56,0,3.29,0,14.95,0.07,2,0.93,17.83 ,0,40.37,0
Iraq_11BA66,19.13,0,1.15,0,9.31,3.07,1.31,0.01,18. 78,0,47.23,0
Iraq_12AJ49,18.57,0,3.39,0,11.17,2.42,1.98,0.16,18 .74,0,43.57,0
Iraq_12BA65,19.07,0,2.88,0.22,10.49,2.41,1.47,0.08 ,18.31,0,45.08,0
Iraq_12BA66,12.8,0,4.17,0.05,7.48,2.25,2.77,4.8,32 .08,0,32.53,1.07
Iraq_12R40,17.7,0.53,3.3,0,10.1,1.84,0.81,0,18.86, 0,46.86,0
Iraq_13BA65,20.08,0.35,1.28,0.64,7.62,3,4.68,2.86, 23.93,0,32.53,3.04
Iraq_13BA66,18.82,0,2.92,0.74,7.8,1.19,4.31,0.85,2 4.74,0.16,36.19,2.28
Iraq_13R40,12.6,0,4.12,0,8.34,2.68,2.78,3.15,28.22 ,1.76,32.59,3.75
Iraq_13R59,24.9,0.53,0.59,0.49,9.86,2.7,2.89,1.07, 16.98,0,39.99,0
Iraq_14AJ137,10.01,0,4.22,0,3.71,1.09,1.51,6.23,37 .08,1.47,33.05,1.63
Iraq_14AJ68,24.95,0.58,0,0,3.71,6.88,5.07,0.37,15. 96,0.84,41.63,0
Iraq_15AJ68,10.35,0,2.13,1,25.67,20.77,1.2,2.99,9. 64,0.65,25.29,0.29
Iraq_15BA65,17.35,0,0.99,0,7.63,4.41,3.64,4.03,24. 67,0.86,35.72,0.69
Iraq_16BA65,18.2,0.14,1.19,0,8.41,5.23,0.73,0.13,1 7.04,0.07,48.86,0
Iraq_17BA66,15.42,0.96,3.85,0.08,6.01,1.99,3.81,5. 69,26.69,0,32.91,2.6
Iraq_18AJ68,12.71,0.55,3.48,0,14.47,5.96,3.28,2.53 ,18.95,0,38.06,0
Iraq_19BA66,15.39,1.46,3.05,0,8.3,0.43,3.28,4.43,2 6.02,2.43,34.59,0.62
Iraq_1AJ67,19.49,0,1.61,0,11.73,1.52,0.12,0,18.49, 0,47.04,0
Iraq_1BA2,18.99,0,1.83,0.52,10.41,1.58,0,0,17.3,0, 49.37,0
Iraq_1BA66,18.32,0.52,0.32,0,7.41,5.37,0,0.07,19.0 8,0,48.9,0
Iraq_1BAJ137,18.12,0.62,1.22,0,10.04,2.67,0,0,20.4 9,0,46.85,0
Iraq_20AJ57,19.71,0,0.62,0.11,13.15,2.94,0,0,18.96 ,0.52,43.98,0
Iraq_2AJ67,18.57,0,1.57,0,12.29,1.54,1.46,0.11,18. 91,0,45.56,0
Iraq_2AQ191,15.04,0,3,0,13.11,1.64,0.47,0,19.78,0. 28,46.68,0
Iraq_2BA66,13.3,0.62,3.25,0.04,10.12,3.46,3.34,3.5 6,24.13,1,36.09,1.1
Iraq_2R40,17.79,0.46,3.5,0.43,7.7,3.45,3.69,3.27,2 3.03,0,35.21,1.48
Iraq_2R59,21.36,0,3.66,0.38,7.55,4.99,2.74,1.92,17 .87,1.94,37.6,0
Iraq_3AJ67,13.85,0,2.76,0.18,14.62,1.67,0,0.93,20. 61,0,45.38,0
Iraq_4AL78,19.07,0,2.09,0,7.8,4,1.83,0.54,19.82,0, 44.85,0
Iraq_4BA66,20.26,1.57,2.4,0.74,12.82,1.34,3.5,1.12 ,17.58,1.05,36.31,1.3
Iraq_4R114,19.36,0,1.15,0.5,10.02,2.07,1.26,0,18.9 7,0,46.67,0
Iraq_5AJ1,19.87,0.68,2.98,0.85,9.97,1.78,0.35,0.1, 19.71,0,43.7,0
Iraq_5AJ100,17.56,0.16,2.43,0,10.05,0.81,0.62,0,19 .99,0,48.39,0
Iraq_5AJ67,20.25,0.13,0.4,0.64,9.35,1.47,1.34,0,22 .35,0,44.07,0
Iraq_5BA66,10.87,0,4.27,0,13.9,2.84,0.52,1.05,22.9 7,0,43.57,0
Iraq_6BA1,17.02,0.87,3.43,0.2,6.67,3.53,1.95,6.73, 27.12,0.38,29.8,2.29
Iraq_6BA66,17.05,0,1.62,0,18.42,21.97,2.45,0.84,8. 41,1.18,28.08,0
Iraq_7AJ100,18.84,1.45,1.09,0.91,10.62,5.37,4.74,2 .79,20.56,0,33.15,0.48
Iraq_7AJ152,18.53,0.56,1.3,0,9.47,5.47,1.51,2.78,2 3.79,1.85,33.73,1.01
Iraq_7AJ55,18.65,0.68,1.23,0,10.46,1.29,1.71,0.74, 19.52,0,45.73,0
Iraq_7BA65,16.62,0,3.85,0.53,6.2,5.04,4.47,3.16,25 .91,0,31.2,3.01
Iraq_7BA66,15.38,0,2.58,0.22,7.05,1.9,3.24,4.97,27 .19,0,34.23,3.23
Iraq_8BA66,15.84,0.08,3.94,0.24,9.16,3.64,2.73,4.6 1,25.56,1.14,30.72,2.35
Iraq_9BA65,17.26,0.17,2.49,0,10.66,1.92,4.29,3.14, 27.12,0.77,29.46,2.71
Iraq_9BA66,20.38,0,0.06,0,9.96,1.78,1.76,0.85,19.5 3,0,45.69,0
Iraq_9R180,15.22,0,2.68,0,12.86,2.19,1.65,0.68,18. 91,0,45.49,0.32
I saw Lucas just posted the Sunni and Shia samples, my bet is that those averages will be a bit different than the Lebanese Muslim average we have no, probably more SW Asian and less Atlantic_Med. Same for the Syrian averages.
But there are two Assyrians among the Syrians and several Levantine Christians.
Alright. Too bad Kamal is not interested, he is actually from the Levant.
Tomorrow I will average the Jordanians you marked as Christian.
Lucas
12-16-2020, 11:20 PM
Alright. Too bad Kamal is not interested, he is actually from the Levant.
Tomorrow I will average the Jordanians you marked as Christian.
Wait for all. I think not all were posted before.
Lucas
12-16-2020, 11:25 PM
71 Syrians, next will be 43 Jordanians.
Syria_10AH252,13,0,3.42,1.97,14.53,3.95,1.73,3.06, 17.11,0.69,40.53,0
Syria_10AJ100,12.53,0.59,3.51,0.79,13.95,4.92,0,2. 74,19.52,1.39,40.06,0
Syria_10AR15,13.94,0,3.65,1.05,11.55,5.8,1.41,3.35 ,17.86,1.41,39.86,0.12
Syria_11AH326,16.45,0.53,3.81,0.58,13.4,5.38,1.49, 1.68,16.11,1.13,39.02,0.42
Syria_11AJ100,15.26,1.94,3.61,0.42,15.74,5.4,2.21, 1.19,14.93,0.08,39.22,0
Syria_11AJ152,14.66,1.15,2.47,0.93,13.15,5.69,2.12 ,2.29,17.16,1.53,38.04,0.8
Syria_11AQ155,14.71,0.41,2.71,1.4,10.49,3.42,0,3.0 5,19.15,0,44.48,0.18
Syria_11AR16,14.76,0.86,1.92,1.87,10.11,0.93,2.18, 4.27,26.7,0.12,31.4,4.88
Syria_12AH252,19.28,3.49,1.72,0,12.35,8.4,2.22,0.7 6,13.95,0,37.84,0
Syria_12AJ118,12.5,0.83,3.03,0.08,8.64,2.31,2.13,6 .44,28.29,0.74,32.25,2.76
Syria_12AL16,15.47,0.25,1.75,0,9.72,4.99,1.67,1.67 ,20.91,1.87,37.9,3.8
Syria_12AR16,12.14,0,4.6,0.4,12.53,2.78,1.1,1.51,2 1.09,0.15,43.68,0
Syria_13AH252,13.55,1.04,4.4,0,9.45,2.84,3.56,4.62 ,24.38,0,33.87,2.29
Syria_13AH326,11.23,0.24,3.83,0.76,12.31,0,1.48,7. 5,26.89,0.4,34.37,0.99
Syria_13AR15,11.49,0.27,4.08,0.06,8.72,0.28,1.33,4 .94,28.99,0,35.8,4.03
Syria_14R7,11.89,0.51,4.53,0.1,16.46,4.4,0,2.9,19. 34,0.96,37.67,1.24
Syria_15AJ100,9.65,0,5.94,0,9.79,2.98,2.1,3.87,26. 63,0.85,35.81,2.39
Syria_15AJ119,14.86,0,0.19,1.33,12.82,3.23,0.22,0. 12,19.16,0,47.64,0.43
Syria_15AR16,10.51,0.45,3.3,0.54,10.67,0.08,2.65,3 .39,27.52,0.71,35.05,5.13
Syria_15R7,14.14,0,2.58,0,11.79,6.94,1.63,1.54,20. 95,1.81,38.54,0.06
Syria_16AH326,12.44,0,3.62,1.49,13.32,0.63,0.87,3. 62,24.87,0,37.65,1.51
Syria_16AJ100,13.72,0.39,2.61,0.4,9.07,0,1.64,6.18 ,30.53,1.03,31.83,2.59
Syria_16AJ177,14.03,0,5.28,0.73,7.45,3.92,3.59,5.0 5,27.02,0.52,28.03,4.38
Syria_16AR22,15.96,0,4.26,0.32,10.16,1.71,4.28,2.9 3,21.38,0.61,37.36,1.02
Syria_17AH326,9.77,0.48,4.26,0,9.43,3.67,2.56,6.76 ,27.24,0,33.15,2.69
Syria_17AJ119,12.59,0.45,3.93,0.81,8.47,0,0.8,4.77 ,31.14,0,34.42,2.62
Syria_17AJ181,12.47,0,3.51,0.82,11.88,4.41,2.5,3.6 9,21.03,0,36.87,2.81
Syria_18AJ152,13.15,0,3.33,0,7.34,5.12,1.8,4.21,29 .35,1.54,32.73,1.42
Syria_18AR15,12.47,0,2.46,1.76,6.43,2.48,1.5,4.1,3 0.79,0,33.7,4.31
Syria_19AL16,12.56,0.17,3.87,0.06,10.61,2.65,2.63, 4.57,27.15,0,34.13,1.6
Syria_19AR15,13.69,0,2.75,0,15.13,3.69,0.78,2.05,2 1.08,0,40.74,0.08
Syria_1AR18,11.81,1.57,4.22,0,7.35,3.13,3.76,5.06, 29.31,0,32.35,1.43
Syria_20AR15,13.76,1.75,1.93,0,9.18,3.49,2.52,5.22 ,25.54,0,33.06,3.57
Syria_21AR18,13.39,0,3.33,0.03,7.64,0.59,2.35,4.9, 29.67,0.46,35.02,2.61
Syria_22AR18,15.01,0.54,2.18,0.44,11.89,4.12,0,4.0 9,17.87,2.55,39.7,1.62
Syria_23AR15,12.4,0,4.47,0.94,6.18,1.9,0.92,5.62,3 0.26,0,35.06,2.24
Syria_24AR15,10.4,0,6.12,0,20.21,3.18,0.05,3.24,20 .71,0,35.32,0.78
Syria_24AR18,11.35,1.72,4.18,0,7.71,2.7,3.27,5.82, 30.66,0,30.74,1.85
Syria_26AH252,11.6,0.09,3.71,0,14.79,4.17,0,1.54,2 3.43,0,40.68,0
Syria_26AR15,11.72,0,3.8,0.86,7.67,1.93,1.21,5.58, 29.19,0.58,34.52,2.95
Syria_28AR15,13.54,0,3.28,0.33,9.65,1.97,2.98,4.46 ,24.5,0.19,35.34,3.76
Syria_29AH252,9.53,0,2.1,2.1,8.51,1.7,0.36,7.46,32 .15,0,32.98,3.1
Syria_2AR16,14.56,1.23,1.73,1.18,8.1,1.99,1.56,5.7 4,26.71,0.91,33.51,2.78
Syria_3AH326,12.79,0.65,5.61,0,8.42,1.81,2.02,5.15 ,25.9,0.72,33.94,2.97
Syria_3AJ112,16.44,0.25,3.33,0,14.99,3.57,0.49,1.2 ,18.62,0.34,39.96,0.81
Syria_3AJ116,12.69,0.58,4.02,1.39,10.54,4.03,0.39, 4.94,22.9,1.35,35.41,1.77
Syria_3AJ118,12.25,0,3.3,0,16.42,1.41,0.02,1.19,22 .91,1.18,41.11,0.22
Syria_3AJ120,9.95,0,3.5,0.41,14.8,2.33,1.39,1.41,2 2.45,0,43.76,0
Syria_3AR16,10.51,0,2.66,0,15.64,2.77,0,1.93,20.85 ,0.95,44.69,0
Syria_4AJ112,24.87,1.08,0.96,0,8.83,8.33,2.23,0.57 ,12.34,1.71,38.96,0.12
Syria_4AJ120,14.4,1.11,2.36,1.44,10.52,5.93,0.98,2 .09,20.18,0,40.47,0.5
Syria_5AH252,22.66,0.46,1.35,0.23,8.3,7.1,2.25,1.7 3,16.76,2.1,37.05,0
Syria_5AJ112,15.16,0,3.56,0,13.84,3.88,0.18,1.15,1 9.9,0.7,40.69,0.93
Syria_5AR16,16.23,1.64,2.75,0,11.58,6.68,2.11,1.68 ,19.02,0.64,37.65,0.01
Syria_5AS15,15.93,0.54,4.49,0.13,10.03,2.75,2.43,1 .02,22.42,0.6,39.1,0.57
Syria_5B44,26.09,1.33,1.51,0,6.83,10.98,2.49,0.68, 11.13,1.95,37.02,0
Syria_6AH252,15.56,0,4.34,0.25,15.48,0.37,1.4,0.64 ,20.52,0,41.16,0.29
Syria_6AJ118,16.4,0.09,0.68,0.21,10.59,5.2,2.18,0, 18.8,0.88,44.97,0
Syria_6AR15,15.48,0,3.95,1.95,12.8,2.73,1.68,4.25, 20.31,0,33.76,3.09
Syria_6AR16,10.85,2.01,4.41,0,7.09,0,1.09,5.47,33. 42,0,32.58,3.08
Syria_7AR15,12.8,0.23,5.21,1.2,8.89,1.55,1.92,4.97 ,25.81,0,35.63,1.78
Syria_8AH252,14.03,0.55,3.12,0,11.58,3.89,0.97,3.7 7,18.75,0,42.67,0.67
Syria_8AR15,13.88,0.29,3.31,0,10.82,2.81,2.28,3.68 ,26.64,1.66,31.56,3.07
Syria_9AR15,10.36,0,6.36,0,10.14,0.13,2.46,5.91,31 .08,0,32.41,1.14
Syria_9AR16,11.41,0.23,3.14,0,14.07,3.3,0.06,1.54, 23.51,0,42.16,0.59
Syria_Aut-11-12-01-01,9.43,0,5.64,0.61,9.24,4.1,1.46,9.61,23.88,0,27. 68,8.35
Syria_Aut-11-12-01-02,12.46,0.23,4.12,2.55,14.67,3.31,0,2.51,19.85,0, 39.09,1.22
Syria_Aut-11-12-01-03,13.04,0,2.11,0.63,8.25,2.83,0.44,6.44,25.66,2.4 3,36.11,2.06
Syria_Aut-11-12-09-01,13.97,0,1.25,0,13.22,4.49,2.33,2.49,19.5,1.51,3 8.92,2.32
Syria_Aut-11-12-09-02,21.76,0.62,2.22,1.14,9.16,8.87,3.87,0.84,13.77, 0,37.77,0
Syria_Aut-11-12-09-03,11.98,0.97,4.39,0.97,12.3,1.13,0.44,4.74,23.59, 0,36,3.47
I'm doing the averages.
Lebanon_Maronite,11.25,0.07,3.86,0.11,15.59,1.9,0. 18,0.82,22.53,0.12,43.54,0.02
Lebanon_Greek_Orthodox,11.22,0.11,3.72,0.09,15.56, 1.35,0.26,0.84,22.82,0.1,43.9,0.02
The two are basically identical. Comparison to the average I created these two are bit less SW Asian and a bit more North European and Gedrosia
Lebanese_Christian(created by Aren),10.7,0,4.03,0.17,15.63,0.86,0.31,0.98,23.73, 0.12,43.46,0
Lucas
12-16-2020, 11:30 PM
I'm doing the averages.
Lebanon_Maronite,11.25,0.07,3.86,0.11,15.59,1.9,0. 18,0.82,22.53,0.12,43.54,0.02
Lebanon_Greek_Orthodox,11.22,0.11,3.72,0.09,15.56, 1.35,0.26,0.84,22.82,0.1,43.9,0.02
The two are basically identical. Comparison to the average I created these two are bit less SW Asian and a bit more North European and Gedrosia
Lebanese_Christian(created by Aren),10.7,0,4.03,0.17,15.63,0.86,0.31,0.98,23.73, 0.12,43.46,0
I think it is possible to make north and south Iraqis averages?
Okay, the whole thing is on you, Aren :) Especially Syrian will be interesting. And Jordanian of course (our only avg is a legacy pop from Dodecad).
Lucas
12-16-2020, 11:33 PM
43 Jordanians
Jordan_10AM58,9.82,0.2,5.13,0,13.67,3.4,1.39,4.55, 23.88,0,36.17,1.79
Jordan_10AM65,10.91,0.76,4.45,0,13.59,4.19,0.35,3. 63,22.9,0,35.41,3.81
Jordan_10AM74,11.03,0,4.7,0,13.28,3.87,1,4.47,23.9 1,0,35,2.75
Jordan_11AM58,9.4,0,6.79,0,11.26,1.29,1.63,7.01,23 .17,0,37.62,1.82
Jordan_12AM58,11.01,0,6.06,0,9.96,1.33,1.03,7.09,2 5.12,0,36.75,1.63
Jordan_12AM63,11.52,0.26,5.77,0,14.64,0.48,0.34,4. 67,23.44,0,37.56,1.33
Jordan_13AM58,9.16,0,5.8,0,14.87,1.03,0.24,0.95,25 .66,0,42.27,0
Jordan_13AM74,11.88,0.12,5.06,0,13,1.02,0,4.71,25. 19,0,36.5,2.53
Jordan_14AM66,11.68,0.2,7.64,0,12.69,0.97,1.02,4.2 8,23.99,0.91,33.83,2.8
Jordan_15AM64,9.27,0,5.89,0,13.36,0.84,0.49,5.5,30 .36,0,32.68,1.63
Jordan_15AM65,10.21,0,5.23,0.3,12.19,4.5,1.82,4.77 ,19.02,0,39.96,2.01
Jordan_15AM66,7.18,0.42,7.55,0.4,9.47,4.45,2.13,6. 43,22.37,0.9,34.87,3.84
Jordan_16AM66,10.85,0,6.2,0,12.38,2.23,1.94,4.65,2 6.1,0,33.4,2.25
Jordan_16AM68,10.26,0,4.09,0,14.06,0.56,0.86,2.4,2 5.33,0,42.43,0
Jordan_1AM65,7.39,0,8.02,0,14.79,0.68,1.55,6.41,24 .28,0,35.34,1.54
Jordan_1AM76,8.68,0.07,6.44,0,11.23,1.39,0.63,5.37 ,29.62,0.84,33.46,2.26
Jordan_24AL42,8.72,0,6.33,0.49,12.65,0.85,0,4.79,2 5.24,0,38.98,1.96
Jordan_2AM59,7.95,0.02,4.68,0,14.55,1.1,0,2.09,24. 97,0,44.64,0
Jordan_2AM63,12.05,0.17,4.9,0.43,12.06,1.62,1.19,4 .39,24.88,0,36.91,1.39
Jordan_2AM66,9.75,0,5.23,0,10.77,1.07,0.88,5.28,26 .45,0.49,38.09,1.98
Jordan_3AM58,10.07,0,3.99,0,19.02,3.04,1.77,3.89,2 3.72,0.52,33.03,0.94
Jordan_3AM63,17.5,2.66,0,0.61,7.18,14.19,1.24,0,4. 36,4.17,48.08,0
Jordan_3AM68,7.17,0,2.73,0,15.21,0.93,0,2.12,27.71 ,0.35,43.79,0
Jordan_3AM77,7.96,0,4.48,0.42,15.2,0,0,3.15,24.53, 0.11,44.16,0
Jordan_4AM64,9.16,0.27,5.8,0.7,12.83,1.94,0.46,4.6 2,28.2,0,34.75,1.27
Jordan_5AM60,10.67,0,3.03,0.41,13.87,1.25,0.46,4.6 6,26.22,0.88,35.86,2.69
Jordan_5AM66,9.59,0,5.81,0.62,14.29,1.1,1.25,3.59, 25.83,0,36.19,1.75
Jordan_5AM68,9.93,0.36,4.55,1.35,13.41,1.55,0.62,4 .53,24.48,0,37.17,2.07
Jordan_6AM65,14.52,0,4.29,0.93,13,4.45,1.81,4.36,1 8.24,2.98,31.31,4.11
Jordan_6AM74,10.44,0,4.53,0.74,14.6,0,1.65,6.02,23 .48,0,37.35,1.19
Jordan_7AM66,10.82,1.44,5.16,0,10.52,0.94,2.95,5.1 1,27.12,0.7,33.56,1.68
Jordan_8AM45,10.25,0,5.71,0.04,13.31,0.58,1.26,5.3 6,30.49,0.66,32.15,0.19
Jordan_8AM66,6.34,0,6.42,0.62,16.32,0.39,0,1.93,26 .76,0,41.22,0
Jordan_8AM74,9.44,0,5.77,0,13.76,3.07,0,0.79,25.85 ,0.3,41.02,0
Jordan_8AM77,10,1.16,5.01,0.2,10.98,1.09,0,5.66,31 .28,0.05,33.96,0.62
Jordan_9AM58,9.61,1.02,3.21,0,17.16,1.41,0,0.78,21 .4,0.58,44.84,0
Jordan_9AM68,8.68,0,5.57,0,16.29,0.81,0,1.27,27.39 ,0.06,39.92,0
Jordan_Aut-11-09-39-01,7.13,0,6.94,0,12.26,0,0.47,11.49,25.04,0,30.78, 5.88
Jordan_Aut-11-09-39-03,10.35,0,5.23,0.51,13.51,0.21,0,6.2,26.16,0.16,3 2.9,4.78
Jordan_Aut-11-09-39-04,10.01,0,4.79,0.74,15.94,1.13,0.72,2.02,24.81,0, 39.83,0
Jordan_Aut-11-11-10-01,6.79,0,7.55,0.13,10.65,0.87,2.01,5.72,25,0.38,3 9.06,1.85
Jordan_Aut-11-11-10-02,7.27,0.23,5.85,0.07,12.69,1.54,0,1.5,29.42,0.47 ,40.96,0
Jordan_Aut-11-11-42-03,16.42,0,3.35,0.05,9.21,7.92,0.88,2.85,17.38,1.8 8,39.17,0.89
Next 148 Iranians:)
Next 148 Iranians:)
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Lucas
12-16-2020, 11:37 PM
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I'm doing the averages.
Lebanon_Maronite,11.25,0.07,3.86,0.11,15.59,1.9,0. 18,0.82,22.53,0.12,43.54,0.02
Lebanon_Greek_Orthodox,11.22,0.11,3.72,0.09,15.56, 1.35,0.26,0.84,22.82,0.1,43.9,0.02
The two are basically identical. Comparison to the average I created these two are bit less SW Asian and a bit more North European and Gedrosia
Lebanese_Christian(created by Aren),10.7,0,4.03,0.17,15.63,0.86,0.31,0.98,23.73, 0.12,43.46,0
You'll decide which ones should remain. Syria was done by Amon, I'm sure he could only guess their exact origin, some Lebs and Iraqis may have passed as Syrians in the process.
I think it is possible to make north and south Iraqis averages?
Don't think so. I can only separate Iraqi Arabs, Kurds and Assyrians/Mandaeans.
Btw is there something wrong with the Iraqis you ran through? The K12b results don't match with their PCA 25.
Some examples
Iraq_13R40,12.6,0,4.12,0,8.34,2.68,2.78,3.15,28.22 ,1.76,32.59,3.75
Visible SSA and high SW Asian obviously some kind of Arab but his PCA 25 coordinates give totally different results
Target: Iraqi:13R40
Distance: 3.8447% / 0.03844651
45.2 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
10.4 GEO_CHG
9.4 Levant_Natufian
5.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
Low Natufian even for Assyrian standards and no SSA. Something is wrong, no?
Lucas
12-16-2020, 11:47 PM
Don't think so. I can only separate Iraqi Arabs, Kurds and Assyrians/Mandaeans.
Btw is there something wrong with the Iraqis you ran through? The K12b results don't match with their PCA 25.
Some examples
Iraq_13R40,12.6,0,4.12,0,8.34,2.68,2.78,3.15,28.22 ,1.76,32.59,3.75
Visible SSA and high SW Asian obviously some kind of Arab but his PCA 25 coordinates give totally different results
Target: Iraqi:13R40
Distance: 3.8447% / 0.03844651
45.2 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
10.4 GEO_CHG
9.4 Levant_Natufian
5.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
Low Natufian even for Assyrian standards and no SSA. Something is wrong, no?
Maybe sample names are in wrong order for groups I don't rememebr but rather not, but it is Dodecad, not G25 I don't think it is a problem. Especially if we don't known regions for any of them. They could be named Iraqi bbleble344 or Iraqi1, Iraqi2, Iraqi3. Treat it like that.
One Jordanian was a full Circassian, I already ran him two days ago. Also there was one half white Iraqi (seriously).
Maybe sample names are in wrong order for groups I don't rememebr but rather not, but it is Dodecad, not G25 I don't think it is a problem. Especially if we don't known regions for any of them. They could be named Iraqi bbleble344 or Iraqi1, Iraqi2, Iraqi3. Treat it like that.
Probably wrong names then. Cause there's no chance that the difference between Gedmatch and PCA 25 runs is this high.
Btw the Muslims include some visible outliers, one Sunni Lebanese scores almost 20% SSA and one Shia is basically half South Asian. I'm gonna exclude them. You agree?
Lucas
12-16-2020, 11:53 PM
I just checked dozen random Iranians from this run. Certainly there are from Iran:) I don't care about being inline with G25 sample names order.
148 samples from Iran (many Azeris, Turkmen, even some Baluch among therm).
Iran_10AM149,27.27,0.96,1.12,0.95,6.5,6.7,6.4,2.03 ,9.01,1.98,36.36,0.73
Iran_10AM180,21.38,0.35,1.02,0.43,9.15,8.8,2.85,0, 11.97,3.09,40.95,0
Iran_10AM187,19.13,0.21,2.08,0.85,5.97,5.1,4.39,1. 92,18.49,0.06,35.18,6.62
Iran_10AQ100,19.65,3.65,2.17,4.17,9.62,8.19,2.04,0 .61,11.03,1.86,36.97,0.03
Iran_10AQ102,27.12,2.13,0.25,0,4.64,9.64,5.68,0,12 .38,2.87,35.29,0
Iran_10AQ60,25.42,3.41,0.08,0,4.33,9.68,6.74,0.87, 13.35,1.07,35.04,0
Iran_10AQ66,26.83,2.41,0,0,8.18,7.98,3.71,0.71,12. 58,0,37.61,0
Iran_10AQ69,27.98,1.8,0,0,0.92,7.16,4.46,0.86,14.3 ,0.81,41.71,0
Iran_10AQ86,22.68,1.9,0.35,2.12,9.04,5.94,3.21,0.4 3,12.13,3.94,37.83,0.44
Iran_10AQ99,21.82,1.08,1.46,0,7.27,10.41,1.55,0,11 .95,3.6,40.58,0.29
Iran_11AM140,48.09,0,0,0.78,0,5.6,15.88,0.59,10.48 ,1.05,17.53,0
Iran_11AM149,25.53,3.52,0.45,1.86,6.83,9.17,2.6,0. 36,11.54,1.9,36.25,0
Iran_11AM160,29.36,0.64,0,1.02,9.71,7.51,4.42,0.03 ,11.97,0,34.81,0.53
Iran_11AM180,34.58,5.7,0,1.73,4.35,12.77,15.76,0.2 5,6.65,2.11,16.1,0
Iran_11AM187,26.12,0.33,0.87,0,8.12,6.16,4.12,0.51 ,12.63,2.63,38.49,0.01
Iran_11AQ102,29.24,1.07,0.65,0.59,5.82,8.86,6.86,0 .12,11.33,1.62,33.34,0.5
Iran_11AQ103,26.11,2.39,1.1,0.54,5.18,9.61,8.16,0. 8,11.12,1.25,33.28,0.44
Iran_11AQ64,22.35,2.15,0,1.05,6.11,9.48,3.18,0,12. 86,2.75,39.64,0.44
Iran_11AQ66,28.99,0.5,2.13,0.37,4.97,8.26,7.4,0.73 ,11.82,0,34.83,0
Iran_11AQ69,26.52,0,1.85,0.6,6.86,5.44,5.46,0.18,1 4.37,1.85,36.45,0.41
Iran_12AM122,23.59,2.73,1.77,0,9.21,10.49,3.6,0.66 ,10.73,1.05,35.91,0.26
Iran_12AM149,21.27,0,0,0.51,7.4,8.93,2.13,0,14.53, 0,45.22,0
Iran_12AQ102,24.1,1.1,0.81,1.38,8.03,8.71,4.18,1.1 3,11.94,2.68,35.79,0.15
Iran_12AQ53,26.65,0.85,1.46,0.42,3.29,6.95,1.44,0. 22,16.85,3.19,38.35,0.34
Iran_12AQ54,22.89,3.73,0,0.46,8.51,6.89,1.48,0.61, 13.02,3.82,38.59,0
Iran_12AQ60,25.56,0,0,1.3,10.35,7.44,4.08,0.76,14. 99,0,35.5,0
Iran_12AQ61,27,0.55,0.46,0.75,8.06,9.07,6.09,0.37, 11.36,0.34,35.95,0.01
Iran_12AQ64,35.58,0.57,0.36,0,1.06,6.16,10.16,1.45 ,12.51,0,27.37,4.76
Iran_12AQ66,28.42,2.54,1.97,0,5.84,7.9,4.81,0,12.4 9,1.86,34.1,0.07
Iran_12AQ69,25.89,2.46,1.12,0.33,8.92,7.52,2.76,0, 13.72,1.97,35.15,0.16
Iran_12AQ99,22.61,2.53,0.6,0.83,8.14,7.1,0.94,0.19 ,12.24,4.86,39.96,0
Iran_13AM103,23.49,1.09,0.89,1.68,6.51,6.88,6.03,0 .49,13.11,0,39.83,0
Iran_13AM122,25.63,2.22,0.38,0,7.47,7.9,4.7,0.12,1 3.79,1.93,35.78,0.07
Iran_13AM149,49.43,0,0.26,0.03,2.34,5.43,14.18,0.6 9,10.75,0.09,16,0.8
Iran_13AM164,34.15,0.65,0,0,4.09,7.02,3.95,0.22,10 .88,0,39.03,0.01
Iran_13AM185,21.1,1,0.11,0,7.68,8.03,4.89,0.15,13. 53,4.14,38.95,0.42
Iran_13AQ100,21.37,4.01,0,0.5,6.76,9.54,3.38,0,13. 71,2.78,37.95,0
Iran_13AQ111,26.38,0.76,1.53,0,8.3,6.04,4.53,0.41, 11.93,2.46,37.64,0
Iran_13AQ69,26.81,2.9,1.39,0.97,8.33,3.54,3.77,0.1 7,13.11,0.79,38.22,0
Iran_14AM122,25.83,3.08,0,0.08,8.24,7.09,3.91,0.42 ,12.82,2.48,35.46,0.59
Iran_14AM140,23.03,2.38,1.24,0,7.51,8.19,4.73,0.02 ,12.65,1.86,38.4,0
Iran_14AM149,26.94,2.57,0.23,0.55,6.13,9.72,5.49,0 ,11.11,3.08,33.73,0.44
Iran_14AM164,28.16,0.59,0,0.9,4.86,7.49,4.1,0,11.8 9,1.21,40.36,0.43
Iran_14AQ100,31.32,2.1,0.93,0.08,6.26,9.7,9.05,0.4 1,9.79,1.93,28.43,0
Iran_14AQ111,25.31,3.09,0,0,8.11,8.05,2.77,0.21,12 .52,3.12,36.82,0
Iran_14AQ60,21.6,3.32,0.51,0.22,10.16,6.56,4.85,0, 14.73,0.97,37.04,0.04
Iran_14AQ61,31.92,2.04,0,1.52,4.9,10.22,10.5,0,9.8 5,1.72,26.82,0.49
Iran_14AQ69,22.54,1.32,0.81,1.3,10.05,7.94,1.01,0. 29,12.56,2.17,40.01,0
Iran_15AM149,25.95,0,0.23,0.34,8.87,5.58,3.98,1.28 ,15.51,1.39,36.87,0
Iran_15AM185,26.36,1.56,0,0,7.35,7.07,2.87,0.67,12 .59,1.55,39.99,0
Iran_15AQ111,26.29,0.32,0.22,1.28,6.55,7.45,4.85,1 .02,14.22,0.13,37.6,0.07
Iran_15AQ21,27.55,2.96,0,1.21,5.92,8.93,4.5,0,12.4 1,2.43,33.47,0.61
Iran_15AQ60,23.82,2.83,0.14,0.14,7.43,7.06,2.22,0. 55,13.9,3.95,37.98,0
Iran_15AQ74,33.81,1,0.72,1.2,1.19,5.43,4.4,0.79,10 .47,0,40.71,0.28
Iran_16AM111,33.45,0.55,0.89,0,3.29,8.69,10.29,1.3 1,10.75,2.35,28.44,0
Iran_16AM122,24.56,0.12,0,0.43,6.69,9.22,4.38,0,12 .41,1.57,39.7,0.93
Iran_16AM140,22.94,1.99,0,1.12,8.19,9.67,3.16,0.01 ,14.86,0,37.66,0.39
Iran_16AM185,27.46,0,0.7,0.85,6.71,8.97,4.24,0.18, 11.72,0,39.02,0.15
Iran_16AQ111,25.38,2.25,0.21,0.73,6.42,7.03,4.89,0 .06,9.84,3.14,40.05,0
Iran_16AQ65,32.86,0,0,0,2.82,3.8,3.25,0.07,11.81,0 .35,44.86,0.18
Iran_16AQ66,28.75,0.99,0.85,0.34,3.55,9.5,4.5,0.01 ,10.82,0.16,40.54,0
Iran_1AM157,25.18,2.48,0,0,8.98,8.86,4.69,0.83,10. 18,1.72,37.08,0
Iran_1AQ112,24.88,1.58,0.06,4.14,6.62,8.37,3.85,0, 12.26,0.61,37.62,0.01
Iran_1AQ64,23.37,2.21,0,0,7.97,6.22,3.16,2.62,10.8 6,1.54,34.54,7.51
Iran_1AQ65,27.54,0.82,0,0,7.16,7.76,4.53,0.65,12.9 2,0,38.43,0.21
Iran_1AQ66,30.27,2.07,0.57,0,5.53,10.96,10.3,0.74, 10.27,0.09,29.18,0
Iran_1AQ99,24.98,1.73,0.62,0,7.21,6.68,4.14,0.9,14 .22,0,39.53,0
Iran_2AM198,29.19,2.35,0.84,3.3,6.3,8.72,6.43,0.34 ,11.17,0,31.33,0.03
Iran_2AQ26,27.68,0.54,0.98,1.06,4.35,6.79,5.23,0.2 6,13.15,2.05,37.88,0
Iran_2AQ54,26.77,1.5,0.62,0,8.35,6.02,4.47,0,11.5, 2.89,37.61,0.26
Iran_2AQ65,45.14,2.14,0,0,3.42,5.52,16.14,0.14,8.7 4,0.31,17.88,0.57
Iran_2AQ66,30.35,2.01,2.63,0.03,3.91,8.73,5.35,1.2 7,12.86,0,32.47,0.39
Iran_2AQ99,21.64,2.1,0,0,5.94,10.53,4.13,0.2,13.23 ,3.18,39.05,0
Iran_3AQ100,23.3,3.45,0,0.84,6.8,7.55,4.47,0.21,13 .45,0.39,39.54,0
Iran_3AQ101,39.19,1.32,0.01,0.89,2.68,9.67,11.62,0 .64,9.83,0,24.16,0
Iran_3AQ103,32.27,0,0,0.34,5.56,5.22,4.72,0,12.67, 0,39.07,0.15
Iran_3AQ112,30.35,0,0,0,3.93,6.05,4.27,0.16,12.91, 0.35,41.73,0.25
Iran_3AQ21,37,0,0,0.39,4.36,5.17,6.04,0.05,8.53,0, 37.73,0.73
Iran_3AQ61,35.55,0.01,0.65,0.15,3.38,4.53,7.21,0,1 0.6,1.05,36.87,0
Iran_3AQ65,34.1,0.06,0.71,0.04,0.52,7.27,6.13,0,10 .71,0.79,39.67,0
Iran_3AQ66,33.06,2.16,0.35,0,1.54,5.81,4.79,0.03,9 .91,0.18,41.87,0.31
Iran_4AM100,36.77,0.23,0.09,0,3.36,5.84,4.67,0,10. 22,0.45,38.2,0.16
Iran_4AM140,45.2,2.1,0,0.18,1.21,7.76,14.97,0.64,1 0.62,0,17.32,0
Iran_4AM149,27.57,0.37,0.53,0.12,6.77,6.64,4.7,0.2 5,14.62,0.7,37.73,0
Iran_4AM157,24.03,0.41,0.3,0.37,7.25,8.36,2.52,0.7 8,15.88,2.7,37.4,0
Iran_4AM187,32.46,0.63,0,0,5.1,5.72,3.68,0.31,12.5 ,0,39.61,0
Iran_4AQ101,26.36,1.99,0.33,0,6.28,7.67,3.38,0.55, 13.3,0.6,39.55,0
Iran_4AQ26,30.96,0,0.42,0,2.02,6.86,4.37,0.25,11.4 3,0,43.47,0.21
Iran_4AQ64,24.76,1.25,0.71,0,6.91,7.62,3.25,0.09,1 5.96,0.14,39.3,0
Iran_4AQ99,26.07,0.92,0,0.21,8.31,7.55,4.01,0.3,13 .42,0.26,38.95,0
Iran_5AM103,41.86,0.93,0,0,2.12,5.54,13.63,1.67,12 .63,0,20.68,0.95
Iran_5AM111,36.38,0.23,0,0,3.08,6.67,11.73,0.94,11 .16,0,28.33,1.49
Iran_5AM123,24.98,0.54,0.1,0.68,6.19,8.93,3.24,0.1 3,14.54,1.12,39.56,0
Iran_5AM140,36.63,0.31,0.17,0.02,1.4,5.21,14.16,4. 12,12.63,0,24.03,1.32
Iran_5AM149,23.67,0.83,1.38,1.42,9.45,6.35,3.86,0. 84,12.32,1.03,38.86,0
Iran_5AM187,28.86,0.38,0.11,0,6.04,6.69,7.1,1.79,1 1.96,0.23,36.83,0
Iran_5AQ103,53.61,0.05,0.23,1.22,0.32,6.1,13.52,0. 03,9.97,0,14.47,0.49
Iran_5AQ12,35.79,1.78,0.12,0.2,5.24,6.23,9.51,0.53 ,11.98,0,26.97,1.63
Iran_5AQ26,41.54,0,1.63,1.55,2.55,3.88,15.09,1.31, 8.69,0,18.47,5.28
Iran_5AQ60,30.09,0,0.88,0.66,5.74,7.43,8.31,1.21,1 3.78,0,30.81,1.09
Iran_5AQ61,42.28,0.46,0,0,1.94,7.99,17.02,0,7.85,0 .97,21.49,0
Iran_5AQ65,22.91,0.21,0,0.48,1.73,4.1,10.65,5.93,7 .27,0.51,18.48,27.74
Iran_5AQ66,36.95,2.9,0.22,0,0.32,10.75,14.89,1.91, 8.33,0.86,21.34,1.51
Iran_5AQ7,41.05,0,0,0.61,3.76,3.44,10.7,2.25,13.49 ,0.18,22.15,2.36
Iran_5AQ70,43.5,0.12,0,0.4,4.51,6.67,14.15,0,8.2,0 .21,17.83,4.4
Iran_5AQ99,26.33,0.55,0,0.48,1.34,4.83,11.29,3.92, 9.81,0,17.69,23.77
Iran_6AM121,53.11,0,0.72,0.02,4.68,3.04,13.87,0.61 ,9.24,2.5,12.21,0.01
Iran_6AM140,30.02,0.93,1.24,2.17,1.85,7.81,5.44,3. 63,14.53,0.48,30.34,1.56
Iran_6AM149,37.65,0.31,0,0.32,3.6,13.9,12.94,0,8.9 ,2.25,19.79,0.33
Iran_6AM187,35.08,0,0.07,0,3.53,4.16,12.96,2.16,12 .38,0,20.66,9
Iran_6AQ26,48.98,0.58,0,1.05,0,5.42,16.88,0.39,11. 71,0,14.86,0.14
Iran_6AQ65,33.3,0.53,0,0,1.8,6.4,12.43,3.21,12.41, 0,23.17,6.75
Iran_6AQ66,36.01,0.67,2.23,0.23,2.34,6.38,10.29,1. 36,10.97,0,22.38,7.15
Iran_6AQ99,18.46,0,2.97,0,7.52,4.8,3.8,3.13,22.37, 0,34.45,2.5
Iran_7AM140,23.29,4.29,1.67,2.57,2.55,13.39,5.12,0 ,8.72,4.46,33.55,0.41
Iran_7AM153,16.47,16.62,0,0.05,3.94,14.4,3.45,0.63 ,4.98,19.24,20.22,0
Iran_7AM164,30.26,2.4,1.58,0,3.86,11.11,7.65,0.66, 10.86,2.26,29.37,0
Iran_7AM187,21.97,8.3,0,1.05,5.8,10.86,5.52,0,7.11 ,7.42,31.19,0.78
Iran_7AM94,28.46,2.46,0,1.07,6.13,8.51,9.33,0.17,1 2.09,1.23,30.45,0.08
Iran_7AQ101,22.73,6.26,0.45,0.62,4.8,13.76,6.61,0, 7.03,8.27,29.46,0
Iran_7AQ60,28.05,1.25,0.58,0,7.31,7.47,5.28,0.15,1 1.06,3.17,35.15,0.53
Iran_7AQ65,22.55,7.57,0,2.95,6.64,13.19,4.85,0,6.9 9,8.73,26.31,0.22
Iran_7AQ66,31.74,1.48,0,1.43,7.02,11.69,10.05,0.29 ,8.95,0,27.35,0
Iran_7AQ69,20.18,8.26,0,0,5.83,13.42,5.55,0.16,7.6 5,12.12,26.77,0.07
Iran_8AM100,31.93,1.29,0.87,3.29,4.67,7.92,8.83,0. 11,10.24,1.93,27.88,1.04
Iran_8AM149,23.98,5.23,2.37,1.29,5.45,9.69,5.73,0. 17,10.09,7.95,28.06,0
Iran_8AM164,21.46,0,2,0,8.3,2.22,5.21,3.55,22.33,0 ,31.38,3.56
Iran_8AM187,19.86,10.26,0.75,0,4.55,16.85,4.72,0.3 ,4.79,15.24,22.69,0
Iran_8AM198,16.01,1.14,1.05,1.23,7.66,3.25,2.22,4. 54,24.6,0,36.5,1.8
Iran_8AQ101,18.81,15.99,1.36,2.78,5.31,13.93,3.26, 0,3.52,17.08,17.97,0
Iran_8AQ64,23.18,0.4,2.86,0.04,3.9,3.42,6.84,1.44, 19.04,0.68,35.52,2.69
Iran_8AQ65,23.77,7.2,1.06,0.21,5.94,11.86,3.79,0,8 .81,7.13,30.02,0.2
Iran_8AQ66,17.23,0,3.76,0,6.52,4.51,3.33,4.45,25.9 5,0,33.89,0.37
Iran_8AQ99,20.67,9.54,0,1.64,6.33,13.08,6.66,0.85, 4.38,9.31,27.53,0
Iran_9AM100,15.86,0.19,3.04,0,6.31,3.58,3.72,3.01, 25.8,2.02,36.27,0.21
Iran_9AM140,22.03,8.84,0,2.05,5.37,9.3,4.24,0.27,9 .14,8.78,29.98,0
Iran_9AM141,21.32,1.32,1.35,0,7.57,6.25,3.74,0,13. 57,4.12,40.77,0
Iran_9AM149,24.67,2.69,0,0,6.7,7.5,1.12,0,13.68,1. 14,42.38,0.13
Iran_9AM164,24.72,2.84,0.16,0,7.4,7.57,3.5,1.86,11 .57,0.76,39.61,0
Iran_9AM185,24.69,2.5,1.23,0.15,8.27,6.45,5.17,0.2 2,11.55,1.92,37.85,0
Iran_9AM187,24.46,0.91,1.17,0,8.88,6.18,2.61,0.36, 15.57,2.1,37.75,0
Iran_9AQ100,32.7,2.16,0.01,0,3.47,9.6,10.9,0,9.41, 0.35,30.89,0.52
Iran_9AQ101,24.06,2.83,1.02,1.24,8.24,5.24,3.43,0. 39,12.64,2.64,38.26,0
Iran_9AQ102,30.82,0,0,0.71,0.03,7.01,3.2,0.24,13,0 ,45,0
Iran_9AQ61,35.94,0.88,0.39,0,0.91,7.47,9.76,1.35,1 3.03,0,23.1,7.17
Iran_9AQ64,31.4,0.66,1.21,0.3,2.65,4.78,9.57,2.4,9 .84,0.32,27.97,8.89
Iran_9AQ69,32.04,1.24,0,0,5.08,7.01,8.56,0,12.41,0 ,30.36,3.3
Iran_9AQ86,37.61,0,1.61,0,2.49,7.87,12.51,0.09,10. 13,0,23.19,4.5
I think K12b Iran averages (doesn't matter Iranian, Azeri, Lur, Turkmen, Talysh, Arab or Mazandarani) are really good. Most samples score it in distances at first place.
Lucas
12-16-2020, 11:55 PM
Probably wrong names then. Cause there's no chance that the difference between Gedmatch and PCA 25 runs is this high.
Btw the Muslims include some visible outliers, one Sunni Lebanese scores almost 20% SSA and one Shia is basically half South Asian. I'm gonna exclude them. You agree?
Do what you want:) I'm sure in such horde are many outliers. Get rid off them:)
Lucas
12-17-2020, 12:06 AM
Don't think so. I can only separate Iraqi Arabs, Kurds and Assyrians/Mandaeans.
Btw is there something wrong with the Iraqis you ran through? The K12b results don't match with their PCA 25.
Some examples
Iraq_13R40,12.6,0,4.12,0,8.34,2.68,2.78,3.15,28.22 ,1.76,32.59,3.75
Visible SSA and high SW Asian obviously some kind of Arab but his PCA 25 coordinates give totally different results
Target: Iraqi:13R40
Distance: 3.8447% / 0.03844651
45.2 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
10.4 GEO_CHG
9.4 Levant_Natufian
5.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
Low Natufian even for Assyrian standards and no SSA. Something is wrong, no?
Top1 distance for 50 IRaqi samples
Distance to: Iraq_9R180
3.63594554 Assyrian_West
Distance to: Iraq_9BA66
2.72235192 Azeri_Jew
Distance to: Iraq_9BA65
7.88362226 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iraq_8BA66
6.29810289 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iraq_7BA66
5.79075988 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iraq_7BA65
5.24433981 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iraq_7AJ55
1.90105234 Azeri_Jew
Distance to: Iraq_7AJ152
4.90960284 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iraq_7AJ100
5.61035649 Iraqi_Baghdad
Distance to: Iraq_6BA66
9.77557671 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
Distance to: Iraq_6BA1
7.57559899 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iraq_5BA66
2.77160603 Lebanese_Christian
Distance to: Iraq_5AJ67
2.61269975 Mandean
Distance to: Iraq_5AJ100
2.50241883 Assyrian_South
Distance to: Iraq_5AJ1
2.38840951 Mandean
Distance to: Iraq_4R114
0.97051533 Azeri_Jew
Distance to: Iraq_4BA66
6.11522690 Iraqi_Baghdad
Distance to: Iraq_4AL78
3.73662950 Iranian_Jew
Distance to: Iraq_3AJ67
3.70087827 Nusayri_Turkey
Distance to: Iraq_2R59
3.64153814 Turkmen_Iraq
Distance to: Iraq_2R40
1.86941167 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iraq_2BA66
5.93134049 Palestinian
Distance to: Iraq_2AQ191
3.48922628 Assyrian_West
Distance to: Iraq_2AJ67
2.22726289 Assyrian_South
Distance to: Iraq_20AJ57
4.35565150 Assyrian_South
Distance to: Iraq_1BAJ137
1.93780804 Assyrian_South
Distance to: Iraq_1BA66
4.89728496 Azeri_Jew
Distance to: Iraq_1BA2
3.10588152 Assyrian_North
Distance to: Iraq_1AJ67
1.90107864 Assyrian_North
Distance to: Iraq_19BA66
6.23100313 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iraq_18AJ68
4.41589176 Syrian_B
Distance to: Iraq_17BA66
5.93525905 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iraq_16BA65
4.46892605 Azeri_Jew
Distance to: Iraq_15BA65
3.29522382 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iraq_15AJ68
8.56040303 Italian_Lazio - this sample is real outlier:)
Distance to: Iraq_14AJ68
5.13506572 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Distance to: Iraq_14AJ137
9.34726698 Kuwait1
Distance to: Iraq_13R59
4.87428969 Turkmen_Iraq
Distance to: Iraq_13R40
8.04312750 Jordanians
Distance to: Iraq_13BA66
4.31527519 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iraq_13BA65
3.52997167 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iraq_12R40
2.09174568 Assyrian_South
Distance to: Iraq_12BA66
8.94065993 Jordanians
Distance to: Iraq_12BA65
2.42561332 Azeri_Jew
Distance to: Iraq_12AJ49
3.28259044 Iranian_Jew
Distance to: Iraq_11BA66
1.45451023 Azeri_Jew
Distance to: Iraq_11BA65
7.01595325 Mandean
Distance to: Iraq_11AR126
3.61198007 Mandean
Distance to: Iraq_10BA66
2.39897895 Iranian_Jew
Distance to: Iraq_10BA65
4.10998783 Azeri_Jew
My guess Iran _Arab are Arab Iraqis. Assyrian and Mandean are obvious. Jews similarity are also some kind of Christian Arabs?
Lucas
12-17-2020, 12:10 AM
I just checked dozen random Iranians from this run. Certainly there are from Iran:) I don't care about being inline with G25 sample names order.
148 samples from Iran (many Azeris, Turkmen, even some Baluch among therm).
Iran_10AM149,27.27,0.96,1.12,0.95,6.5,6.7,6.4,2.03 ,9.01,1.98,36.36,0.73
Iran_10AM180,21.38,0.35,1.02,0.43,9.15,8.8,2.85,0, 11.97,3.09,40.95,0
Iran_10AM187,19.13,0.21,2.08,0.85,5.97,5.1,4.39,1. 92,18.49,0.06,35.18,6.62
Iran_10AQ100,19.65,3.65,2.17,4.17,9.62,8.19,2.04,0 .61,11.03,1.86,36.97,0.03
Iran_10AQ102,27.12,2.13,0.25,0,4.64,9.64,5.68,0,12 .38,2.87,35.29,0
Iran_10AQ60,25.42,3.41,0.08,0,4.33,9.68,6.74,0.87, 13.35,1.07,35.04,0
Iran_10AQ66,26.83,2.41,0,0,8.18,7.98,3.71,0.71,12. 58,0,37.61,0
Iran_10AQ69,27.98,1.8,0,0,0.92,7.16,4.46,0.86,14.3 ,0.81,41.71,0
Iran_10AQ86,22.68,1.9,0.35,2.12,9.04,5.94,3.21,0.4 3,12.13,3.94,37.83,0.44
Iran_10AQ99,21.82,1.08,1.46,0,7.27,10.41,1.55,0,11 .95,3.6,40.58,0.29
Iran_11AM140,48.09,0,0,0.78,0,5.6,15.88,0.59,10.48 ,1.05,17.53,0
Iran_11AM149,25.53,3.52,0.45,1.86,6.83,9.17,2.6,0. 36,11.54,1.9,36.25,0
Iran_11AM160,29.36,0.64,0,1.02,9.71,7.51,4.42,0.03 ,11.97,0,34.81,0.53
Iran_11AM180,34.58,5.7,0,1.73,4.35,12.77,15.76,0.2 5,6.65,2.11,16.1,0
Iran_11AM187,26.12,0.33,0.87,0,8.12,6.16,4.12,0.51 ,12.63,2.63,38.49,0.01
Iran_11AQ102,29.24,1.07,0.65,0.59,5.82,8.86,6.86,0 .12,11.33,1.62,33.34,0.5
Iran_11AQ103,26.11,2.39,1.1,0.54,5.18,9.61,8.16,0. 8,11.12,1.25,33.28,0.44
Iran_11AQ64,22.35,2.15,0,1.05,6.11,9.48,3.18,0,12. 86,2.75,39.64,0.44
Iran_11AQ66,28.99,0.5,2.13,0.37,4.97,8.26,7.4,0.73 ,11.82,0,34.83,0
Iran_11AQ69,26.52,0,1.85,0.6,6.86,5.44,5.46,0.18,1 4.37,1.85,36.45,0.41
Iran_12AM122,23.59,2.73,1.77,0,9.21,10.49,3.6,0.66 ,10.73,1.05,35.91,0.26
Iran_12AM149,21.27,0,0,0.51,7.4,8.93,2.13,0,14.53, 0,45.22,0
Iran_12AQ102,24.1,1.1,0.81,1.38,8.03,8.71,4.18,1.1 3,11.94,2.68,35.79,0.15
Iran_12AQ53,26.65,0.85,1.46,0.42,3.29,6.95,1.44,0. 22,16.85,3.19,38.35,0.34
Iran_12AQ54,22.89,3.73,0,0.46,8.51,6.89,1.48,0.61, 13.02,3.82,38.59,0
Iran_12AQ60,25.56,0,0,1.3,10.35,7.44,4.08,0.76,14. 99,0,35.5,0
Iran_12AQ61,27,0.55,0.46,0.75,8.06,9.07,6.09,0.37, 11.36,0.34,35.95,0.01
Iran_12AQ64,35.58,0.57,0.36,0,1.06,6.16,10.16,1.45 ,12.51,0,27.37,4.76
Iran_12AQ66,28.42,2.54,1.97,0,5.84,7.9,4.81,0,12.4 9,1.86,34.1,0.07
Iran_12AQ69,25.89,2.46,1.12,0.33,8.92,7.52,2.76,0, 13.72,1.97,35.15,0.16
Iran_12AQ99,22.61,2.53,0.6,0.83,8.14,7.1,0.94,0.19 ,12.24,4.86,39.96,0
Iran_13AM103,23.49,1.09,0.89,1.68,6.51,6.88,6.03,0 .49,13.11,0,39.83,0
Iran_13AM122,25.63,2.22,0.38,0,7.47,7.9,4.7,0.12,1 3.79,1.93,35.78,0.07
Iran_13AM149,49.43,0,0.26,0.03,2.34,5.43,14.18,0.6 9,10.75,0.09,16,0.8
Iran_13AM164,34.15,0.65,0,0,4.09,7.02,3.95,0.22,10 .88,0,39.03,0.01
Iran_13AM185,21.1,1,0.11,0,7.68,8.03,4.89,0.15,13. 53,4.14,38.95,0.42
Iran_13AQ100,21.37,4.01,0,0.5,6.76,9.54,3.38,0,13. 71,2.78,37.95,0
Iran_13AQ111,26.38,0.76,1.53,0,8.3,6.04,4.53,0.41, 11.93,2.46,37.64,0
Iran_13AQ69,26.81,2.9,1.39,0.97,8.33,3.54,3.77,0.1 7,13.11,0.79,38.22,0
Iran_14AM122,25.83,3.08,0,0.08,8.24,7.09,3.91,0.42 ,12.82,2.48,35.46,0.59
Iran_14AM140,23.03,2.38,1.24,0,7.51,8.19,4.73,0.02 ,12.65,1.86,38.4,0
Iran_14AM149,26.94,2.57,0.23,0.55,6.13,9.72,5.49,0 ,11.11,3.08,33.73,0.44
Iran_14AM164,28.16,0.59,0,0.9,4.86,7.49,4.1,0,11.8 9,1.21,40.36,0.43
Iran_14AQ100,31.32,2.1,0.93,0.08,6.26,9.7,9.05,0.4 1,9.79,1.93,28.43,0
Iran_14AQ111,25.31,3.09,0,0,8.11,8.05,2.77,0.21,12 .52,3.12,36.82,0
Iran_14AQ60,21.6,3.32,0.51,0.22,10.16,6.56,4.85,0, 14.73,0.97,37.04,0.04
Iran_14AQ61,31.92,2.04,0,1.52,4.9,10.22,10.5,0,9.8 5,1.72,26.82,0.49
Iran_14AQ69,22.54,1.32,0.81,1.3,10.05,7.94,1.01,0. 29,12.56,2.17,40.01,0
Iran_15AM149,25.95,0,0.23,0.34,8.87,5.58,3.98,1.28 ,15.51,1.39,36.87,0
Iran_15AM185,26.36,1.56,0,0,7.35,7.07,2.87,0.67,12 .59,1.55,39.99,0
Iran_15AQ111,26.29,0.32,0.22,1.28,6.55,7.45,4.85,1 .02,14.22,0.13,37.6,0.07
Iran_15AQ21,27.55,2.96,0,1.21,5.92,8.93,4.5,0,12.4 1,2.43,33.47,0.61
Iran_15AQ60,23.82,2.83,0.14,0.14,7.43,7.06,2.22,0. 55,13.9,3.95,37.98,0
Iran_15AQ74,33.81,1,0.72,1.2,1.19,5.43,4.4,0.79,10 .47,0,40.71,0.28
Iran_16AM111,33.45,0.55,0.89,0,3.29,8.69,10.29,1.3 1,10.75,2.35,28.44,0
Iran_16AM122,24.56,0.12,0,0.43,6.69,9.22,4.38,0,12 .41,1.57,39.7,0.93
Iran_16AM140,22.94,1.99,0,1.12,8.19,9.67,3.16,0.01 ,14.86,0,37.66,0.39
Iran_16AM185,27.46,0,0.7,0.85,6.71,8.97,4.24,0.18, 11.72,0,39.02,0.15
Iran_16AQ111,25.38,2.25,0.21,0.73,6.42,7.03,4.89,0 .06,9.84,3.14,40.05,0
Iran_16AQ65,32.86,0,0,0,2.82,3.8,3.25,0.07,11.81,0 .35,44.86,0.18
Iran_16AQ66,28.75,0.99,0.85,0.34,3.55,9.5,4.5,0.01 ,10.82,0.16,40.54,0
Iran_1AM157,25.18,2.48,0,0,8.98,8.86,4.69,0.83,10. 18,1.72,37.08,0
Iran_1AQ112,24.88,1.58,0.06,4.14,6.62,8.37,3.85,0, 12.26,0.61,37.62,0.01
Iran_1AQ64,23.37,2.21,0,0,7.97,6.22,3.16,2.62,10.8 6,1.54,34.54,7.51
Iran_1AQ65,27.54,0.82,0,0,7.16,7.76,4.53,0.65,12.9 2,0,38.43,0.21
Iran_1AQ66,30.27,2.07,0.57,0,5.53,10.96,10.3,0.74, 10.27,0.09,29.18,0
Iran_1AQ99,24.98,1.73,0.62,0,7.21,6.68,4.14,0.9,14 .22,0,39.53,0
Iran_2AM198,29.19,2.35,0.84,3.3,6.3,8.72,6.43,0.34 ,11.17,0,31.33,0.03
Iran_2AQ26,27.68,0.54,0.98,1.06,4.35,6.79,5.23,0.2 6,13.15,2.05,37.88,0
Iran_2AQ54,26.77,1.5,0.62,0,8.35,6.02,4.47,0,11.5, 2.89,37.61,0.26
Iran_2AQ65,45.14,2.14,0,0,3.42,5.52,16.14,0.14,8.7 4,0.31,17.88,0.57
Iran_2AQ66,30.35,2.01,2.63,0.03,3.91,8.73,5.35,1.2 7,12.86,0,32.47,0.39
Iran_2AQ99,21.64,2.1,0,0,5.94,10.53,4.13,0.2,13.23 ,3.18,39.05,0
Iran_3AQ100,23.3,3.45,0,0.84,6.8,7.55,4.47,0.21,13 .45,0.39,39.54,0
Iran_3AQ101,39.19,1.32,0.01,0.89,2.68,9.67,11.62,0 .64,9.83,0,24.16,0
Iran_3AQ103,32.27,0,0,0.34,5.56,5.22,4.72,0,12.67, 0,39.07,0.15
Iran_3AQ112,30.35,0,0,0,3.93,6.05,4.27,0.16,12.91, 0.35,41.73,0.25
Iran_3AQ21,37,0,0,0.39,4.36,5.17,6.04,0.05,8.53,0, 37.73,0.73
Iran_3AQ61,35.55,0.01,0.65,0.15,3.38,4.53,7.21,0,1 0.6,1.05,36.87,0
Iran_3AQ65,34.1,0.06,0.71,0.04,0.52,7.27,6.13,0,10 .71,0.79,39.67,0
Iran_3AQ66,33.06,2.16,0.35,0,1.54,5.81,4.79,0.03,9 .91,0.18,41.87,0.31
Iran_4AM100,36.77,0.23,0.09,0,3.36,5.84,4.67,0,10. 22,0.45,38.2,0.16
Iran_4AM140,45.2,2.1,0,0.18,1.21,7.76,14.97,0.64,1 0.62,0,17.32,0
Iran_4AM149,27.57,0.37,0.53,0.12,6.77,6.64,4.7,0.2 5,14.62,0.7,37.73,0
Iran_4AM157,24.03,0.41,0.3,0.37,7.25,8.36,2.52,0.7 8,15.88,2.7,37.4,0
Iran_4AM187,32.46,0.63,0,0,5.1,5.72,3.68,0.31,12.5 ,0,39.61,0
Iran_4AQ101,26.36,1.99,0.33,0,6.28,7.67,3.38,0.55, 13.3,0.6,39.55,0
Iran_4AQ26,30.96,0,0.42,0,2.02,6.86,4.37,0.25,11.4 3,0,43.47,0.21
Iran_4AQ64,24.76,1.25,0.71,0,6.91,7.62,3.25,0.09,1 5.96,0.14,39.3,0
Iran_4AQ99,26.07,0.92,0,0.21,8.31,7.55,4.01,0.3,13 .42,0.26,38.95,0
Iran_5AM103,41.86,0.93,0,0,2.12,5.54,13.63,1.67,12 .63,0,20.68,0.95
Iran_5AM111,36.38,0.23,0,0,3.08,6.67,11.73,0.94,11 .16,0,28.33,1.49
Iran_5AM123,24.98,0.54,0.1,0.68,6.19,8.93,3.24,0.1 3,14.54,1.12,39.56,0
Iran_5AM140,36.63,0.31,0.17,0.02,1.4,5.21,14.16,4. 12,12.63,0,24.03,1.32
Iran_5AM149,23.67,0.83,1.38,1.42,9.45,6.35,3.86,0. 84,12.32,1.03,38.86,0
Iran_5AM187,28.86,0.38,0.11,0,6.04,6.69,7.1,1.79,1 1.96,0.23,36.83,0
Iran_5AQ103,53.61,0.05,0.23,1.22,0.32,6.1,13.52,0. 03,9.97,0,14.47,0.49
Iran_5AQ12,35.79,1.78,0.12,0.2,5.24,6.23,9.51,0.53 ,11.98,0,26.97,1.63
Iran_5AQ26,41.54,0,1.63,1.55,2.55,3.88,15.09,1.31, 8.69,0,18.47,5.28
Iran_5AQ60,30.09,0,0.88,0.66,5.74,7.43,8.31,1.21,1 3.78,0,30.81,1.09
Iran_5AQ61,42.28,0.46,0,0,1.94,7.99,17.02,0,7.85,0 .97,21.49,0
Iran_5AQ65,22.91,0.21,0,0.48,1.73,4.1,10.65,5.93,7 .27,0.51,18.48,27.74
Iran_5AQ66,36.95,2.9,0.22,0,0.32,10.75,14.89,1.91, 8.33,0.86,21.34,1.51
Iran_5AQ7,41.05,0,0,0.61,3.76,3.44,10.7,2.25,13.49 ,0.18,22.15,2.36
Iran_5AQ70,43.5,0.12,0,0.4,4.51,6.67,14.15,0,8.2,0 .21,17.83,4.4
Iran_5AQ99,26.33,0.55,0,0.48,1.34,4.83,11.29,3.92, 9.81,0,17.69,23.77
Iran_6AM121,53.11,0,0.72,0.02,4.68,3.04,13.87,0.61 ,9.24,2.5,12.21,0.01
Iran_6AM140,30.02,0.93,1.24,2.17,1.85,7.81,5.44,3. 63,14.53,0.48,30.34,1.56
Iran_6AM149,37.65,0.31,0,0.32,3.6,13.9,12.94,0,8.9 ,2.25,19.79,0.33
Iran_6AM187,35.08,0,0.07,0,3.53,4.16,12.96,2.16,12 .38,0,20.66,9
Iran_6AQ26,48.98,0.58,0,1.05,0,5.42,16.88,0.39,11. 71,0,14.86,0.14
Iran_6AQ65,33.3,0.53,0,0,1.8,6.4,12.43,3.21,12.41, 0,23.17,6.75
Iran_6AQ66,36.01,0.67,2.23,0.23,2.34,6.38,10.29,1. 36,10.97,0,22.38,7.15
Iran_6AQ99,18.46,0,2.97,0,7.52,4.8,3.8,3.13,22.37, 0,34.45,2.5
Iran_7AM140,23.29,4.29,1.67,2.57,2.55,13.39,5.12,0 ,8.72,4.46,33.55,0.41
Iran_7AM153,16.47,16.62,0,0.05,3.94,14.4,3.45,0.63 ,4.98,19.24,20.22,0
Iran_7AM164,30.26,2.4,1.58,0,3.86,11.11,7.65,0.66, 10.86,2.26,29.37,0
Iran_7AM187,21.97,8.3,0,1.05,5.8,10.86,5.52,0,7.11 ,7.42,31.19,0.78
Iran_7AM94,28.46,2.46,0,1.07,6.13,8.51,9.33,0.17,1 2.09,1.23,30.45,0.08
Iran_7AQ101,22.73,6.26,0.45,0.62,4.8,13.76,6.61,0, 7.03,8.27,29.46,0
Iran_7AQ60,28.05,1.25,0.58,0,7.31,7.47,5.28,0.15,1 1.06,3.17,35.15,0.53
Iran_7AQ65,22.55,7.57,0,2.95,6.64,13.19,4.85,0,6.9 9,8.73,26.31,0.22
Iran_7AQ66,31.74,1.48,0,1.43,7.02,11.69,10.05,0.29 ,8.95,0,27.35,0
Iran_7AQ69,20.18,8.26,0,0,5.83,13.42,5.55,0.16,7.6 5,12.12,26.77,0.07
Iran_8AM100,31.93,1.29,0.87,3.29,4.67,7.92,8.83,0. 11,10.24,1.93,27.88,1.04
Iran_8AM149,23.98,5.23,2.37,1.29,5.45,9.69,5.73,0. 17,10.09,7.95,28.06,0
Iran_8AM164,21.46,0,2,0,8.3,2.22,5.21,3.55,22.33,0 ,31.38,3.56
Iran_8AM187,19.86,10.26,0.75,0,4.55,16.85,4.72,0.3 ,4.79,15.24,22.69,0
Iran_8AM198,16.01,1.14,1.05,1.23,7.66,3.25,2.22,4. 54,24.6,0,36.5,1.8
Iran_8AQ101,18.81,15.99,1.36,2.78,5.31,13.93,3.26, 0,3.52,17.08,17.97,0
Iran_8AQ64,23.18,0.4,2.86,0.04,3.9,3.42,6.84,1.44, 19.04,0.68,35.52,2.69
Iran_8AQ65,23.77,7.2,1.06,0.21,5.94,11.86,3.79,0,8 .81,7.13,30.02,0.2
Iran_8AQ66,17.23,0,3.76,0,6.52,4.51,3.33,4.45,25.9 5,0,33.89,0.37
Iran_8AQ99,20.67,9.54,0,1.64,6.33,13.08,6.66,0.85, 4.38,9.31,27.53,0
Iran_9AM100,15.86,0.19,3.04,0,6.31,3.58,3.72,3.01, 25.8,2.02,36.27,0.21
Iran_9AM140,22.03,8.84,0,2.05,5.37,9.3,4.24,0.27,9 .14,8.78,29.98,0
Iran_9AM141,21.32,1.32,1.35,0,7.57,6.25,3.74,0,13. 57,4.12,40.77,0
Iran_9AM149,24.67,2.69,0,0,6.7,7.5,1.12,0,13.68,1. 14,42.38,0.13
Iran_9AM164,24.72,2.84,0.16,0,7.4,7.57,3.5,1.86,11 .57,0.76,39.61,0
Iran_9AM185,24.69,2.5,1.23,0.15,8.27,6.45,5.17,0.2 2,11.55,1.92,37.85,0
Iran_9AM187,24.46,0.91,1.17,0,8.88,6.18,2.61,0.36, 15.57,2.1,37.75,0
Iran_9AQ100,32.7,2.16,0.01,0,3.47,9.6,10.9,0,9.41, 0.35,30.89,0.52
Iran_9AQ101,24.06,2.83,1.02,1.24,8.24,5.24,3.43,0. 39,12.64,2.64,38.26,0
Iran_9AQ102,30.82,0,0,0.71,0.03,7.01,3.2,0.24,13,0 ,45,0
Iran_9AQ61,35.94,0.88,0.39,0,0.91,7.47,9.76,1.35,1 3.03,0,23.1,7.17
Iran_9AQ64,31.4,0.66,1.21,0.3,2.65,4.78,9.57,2.4,9 .84,0.32,27.97,8.89
Iran_9AQ69,32.04,1.24,0,0,5.08,7.01,8.56,0,12.41,0 ,30.36,3.3
Iran_9AQ86,37.61,0,1.61,0,2.49,7.87,12.51,0.09,10. 13,0,23.19,4.5
I think K12b Iran averages (doesn't matter Iranian, Azeri, Lur, Turkmen, Talysh, Arab or Mazandarani) are really good. Most samples score it in distances at first place.
Distance to: Iran_9AQ86
4.56973741 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_9AQ69
8.00672842 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_9AQ64
6.62837838 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_9AQ61
3.97455658 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_9AQ102
7.11430250 Iran_Mazandaran
Distance to: Iran_9AQ101
3.75017333 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_9AQ100
8.42723561 Iran_Khorasan
Distance to: Iran_9AM187
2.89124541 Kurd_Sorani
Distance to: Iran_9AM185
4.29640547 Yazidi
Distance to: Iran_9AM164
3.74938662 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Distance to: Iran_9AM149
3.03736728 Zaza
Distance to: Iran_9AM141
3.80699356 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_9AM140
5.46941496 Turkmen
Distance to: Iran_9AM100
4.65846541 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iran_8AQ99
3.87917517 Turkmen_Iran
Distance to: Iran_8AQ66
3.95103784 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iran_8AQ65
4.63357314 Turkmen
Distance to: Iran_8AQ64
7.62629005 Kurd_Sorani
Distance to: Iran_8AQ101
5.05992095 Uzbek
Distance to: Iran_8AM198
4.70174436 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iran_8AM187
4.51289264 Turkmen_TKM
Distance to: Iran_8AM164
5.43014733 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iran_8AM149
5.14845608 Turkmen
Distance to: Iran_8AM100
8.26046609 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_7AQ69
2.67338736 Turkmen_Iran
Distance to: Iran_7AQ66
8.18579868 Tajik_Herat
Distance to: Iran_7AQ65
3.99550998 Turkmen_Iran
Distance to: Iran_7AQ60
4.58565153 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_7AQ101
4.28070088 Turkmen
Distance to: Iran_7AM94
5.37866154 Iran_Khorasan
Distance to: Iran_7AM187
5.07228745 Turkmen
Distance to: Iran_7AM164
5.98345218 Iran_Khorasan
Distance to: Iran_7AM153
5.06590564 Turkmen_Afghanistan
Distance to: Iran_7AM140
7.37796720 Iran_Khorasan
Distance to: Iran_6AQ99
2.02588252 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iran_6AQ66
4.00941392 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_6AQ65
4.06267153 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_6AQ26
9.58695989 Balochi
Distance to: Iran_6AM187
6.85357571 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_6AM149
6.81786624 Pashtun_Kandahar
Distance to: Iran_6AM140
7.28501201 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_6AM121
14.40500607 Balochi
Distance to: Iran_5AQ99
22.01606686 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_5AQ70
5.62675750 Balochi
Distance to: Iran_5AQ7
5.34104859 Balochi
Distance to: Iran_5AQ66
7.79751242 Pashtun_Kandahar
Distance to: Iran_5AQ65
27.15610429 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_5AQ61
6.81551906 Balochi
Distance to: Iran_5AQ60
5.66760973 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_5AQ26
5.15786778 Balochi
Distance to: Iran_5AQ12
5.92233906 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_5AQ103
13.04249976 Balochi
Distance to: Iran_5AM187
3.97654373 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_5AM149
3.02168827 Kurd_Kurmanji
Distance to: Iran_5AM140
6.29546662 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_5AM123
3.62960053 Kurd_Kurmanji
Distance to: Iran_5AM111
5.41966789 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_5AM103
2.53104721 Balochi
Distance to: Iran_4AQ99
2.41472566 Yazidi
Distance to: Iran_4AQ64
2.25128852 Kurd_Sorani
Distance to: Iran_4AQ26
4.51708977 Iran_Mazandaran
Distance to: Iran_4AQ101
3.07917197 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Distance to: Iran_4AM187
3.67435709 Iran_Mazandaran
Distance to: Iran_4AM157
3.64395390 Kurd_Sorani
Distance to: Iran_4AM149
3.30634239 Lur_Iran
Distance to: Iran_4AM140
5.84753794 Balochi
Distance to: Iran_4AM100
5.38951760 Iran_Mazandaran
Distance to: Iran_3AQ66
3.91628651 Iran_Mazandaran
Distance to: Iran_3AQ65
3.44101729 Iran_Mazandaran
Distance to: Iran_3AQ61
5.41937266 Iran_Mazandaran
Distance to: Iran_3AQ21
6.43763932 Iran_Mazandaran
Distance to: Iran_3AQ112
3.57860308 Iranian
Distance to: Iran_3AQ103
3.81166630 Iran_Mazandaran
Distance to: Iran_3AQ101
7.81778741 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_3AQ100
3.78604015 Kurd_Kurmanji
Distance to: Iran_2AQ99
4.04832064 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_2AQ66
5.45582258 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_2AQ65
6.11106374 Balochi
Distance to: Iran_2AQ54
4.16744526 Yazidi
Distance to: Iran_2AQ26
3.91023017 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_2AM198
6.35751524 Iran_Khorasan
Distance to: Iran_1AQ99
2.57165316 Kurd_Kurmanji
Distance to: Iran_1AQ66
7.20633055 Iran_Khorasan
Distance to: Iran_1AQ65
3.51589249 Yazidi
Distance to: Iran_1AQ64
9.53839085 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_1AQ112
5.35711676 Yazidi
Distance to: Iran_1AM157
5.18089761 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_16AQ66
4.67821547 Iran_Mazandaran
Distance to: Iran_16AQ65
6.85750684 Iran_Mazandaran
Distance to: Iran_16AQ111
4.14646838 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Distance to: Iran_16AM185
4.42723390 Iranian
Distance to: Iran_16AM140
4.15427491 Kurd_Kurmanji
Distance to: Iran_16AM122
3.81007874 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Distance to: Iran_16AM111
7.61965879 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_15AQ74
3.68385667 Iran_Mazandaran
Distance to: Iran_15AQ60
3.41512811 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_15AQ21
4.86585039 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_15AQ111
3.50035712 Yazidi
Distance to: Iran_15AM185
2.67164743 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Distance to: Iran_15AM149
3.30740079 Yazidi
Distance to: Iran_14AQ69
3.20803678 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_14AQ61
6.90869742 Tajik_Herat
Distance to: Iran_14AQ60
5.17087033 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_14AQ111
4.25406864 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_14AQ100
6.75487972 Iran_Khorasan
Distance to: Iran_14AM164
2.60001923 Iranian
Distance to: Iran_14AM149
3.59615072 Iran_Khorasan
Distance to: Iran_14AM140
2.88894444 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_14AM122
4.89443562 Yazidi
Distance to: Iran_13AQ69
3.48988538 Lur_Iran
Distance to: Iran_13AQ111
3.44367536 Yazidi
Distance to: Iran_13AQ100
3.42857113 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_13AM185
3.68496947 Azerbaijani
Distance to: Iran_13AM164
3.26064411 Iran_Mazandaran
Distance to: Iran_13AM149
8.47585394 Balochi
Distance to: Iran_13AM122
4.20182103 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_13AM103
4.35088497 Kurd_Sorani
Distance to: Iran_12AQ99
3.07166079 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_12AQ69
4.33881320 Yazidi
Distance to: Iran_12AQ66
3.75920204 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_12AQ64
2.99884978 Iran_Bandari
Distance to: Iran_12AQ61
5.06046441 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_12AQ60
4.62732104 Yazidi
Distance to: Iran_12AQ54
2.86752507 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_12AQ53
6.04211056 Kurd_Sorani
Distance to: Iran_12AQ102
4.53286885 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_12AM149
3.65957648 Udi_Azerbaijan
Distance to: Iran_12AM122
5.16307079 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_11AQ69
3.01385136 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_11AQ66
4.06155143 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_11AQ64
2.99502922 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_11AQ103
4.12952782 Iran_Khorasan
Distance to: Iran_11AQ102
4.71779610 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_11AM187
2.92687547 Yazidi
Distance to: Iran_11AM180
6.92017341 Pashtun_Kandahar
Distance to: Iran_11AM160
5.86743556 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_11AM149
5.15462899 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_11AM140
7.67553907 Balochi
Distance to: Iran_10AQ99
3.71208836 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_10AQ86
3.36870895 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance to: Iran_10AQ69
5.60194609 Iranian
Distance to: Iran_10AQ66
3.46219584 Yazidi
Distance to: Iran_10AQ60
5.21471955 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_10AQ102
4.84192111 Iranian_Fars
Distance to: Iran_10AQ100
5.16661398 Azerbaijani
Distance to: Iran_10AM187
7.24389398 Iran_Arab
Distance to: Iran_10AM180
3.13839131 Azerbaijani_Turkey
Distance to: Iran_10AM149
5.55909165 Iranian_Fars
Lebanon_Sunni,12.85,0.48,4.34,0.39,13.22,3.38,0.8, 3.33,20.32,0.41,39.09,1.39
Lebanon_Shia,12.88,0.24,4.03,0.38,13.38,2.78,1.39, 3.05,21.46,0.26,39.28,0.85
The difference isn't big but the Sunni seem to be more Turkish and SSA.
I excluded two Sunni who seemed to be half North African and two Shia, one part Central/South Asian and one that scored similar to Kurds.
Iran_Arab and Iran_Turkmen were done by Kyp by using this data set.
Lucas
12-17-2020, 12:13 AM
Iran_Arab and Iran_Turkmen were done by Kyp by using this data set.
But it seems not all are incldued as still are other Turkmen in run.
Also too many Yazidis... I think Yazidi average is off... I guess there are just Iran Kurds here mainly.
Interesting there is even Uzbek,Tajik and few Pashtuns.
But it seems not all are incldued as still are other Turkmen in run.
Also too many Yazidis... I think Yazidi average is off... I guess there are just Iran Kurds here mainly.
Interesting there is even Uzbek,Tajik and few Pashtuns.
It's not wrong, why? Kyp made it, I believe mostly from Iraq plus one from Turkey.
The Yazidis are basically pure Northwest Iranics, almost identical to Kurds.
Here are the ones that scored like Assyrians. Most are Chaldean Catholic and Syriac Orthodox/Catholic for sure.
Iraq_Assyrian,18.6,0.16,1.75,0.15,10.37,2.41,0.93, 0.18,18.99,0.04,46.41,0.01
Very similar to my Assyrian_South average as expected. The Mandaeans are too few to make an average of. And the Iraqi Arabs are too diverse in this study, we need their geographical origin before making an average.
11 Jordanian Christians. Can't be sure but they score 0% SSA and their Atlantic_Med is high.
Jordan_Christian,8.53,0.12,4.85,0.17,15.1,1.09,0.1 6,1.73,25.8,0.17,42.28,0
Very similar to my SW Syrian Christian and Palestinian Christian averages, as expected.
Jordan_Muslim,10.35,0.16,5.57,0.26,12.6,1.84,1.1,5 .09,25.03,0.41,35.63,1.99
I excluded one Circassian-like outlier and one that looked straight up Egyptian. Let's hope they sampled actual Jordanians and not recent Palestinian refugees.
Kaazi
12-17-2020, 02:19 AM
Testing Nepali Brahmins/Bahuns
AGUR1- the most Steppe shifted Brahmin so far. shows excess Danish.
# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 35.31
2 Gedrosia 34.15
3 North_European 16.34
4 Caucasus 5.25
5 East_Asian 4.41
6 Atlantic_Med 4.18
7 Southwest_Asian 0.35
8 Siberian 0.01
Distance to: AGUR1
4.01540782 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
10.58120031 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
13.58742065 Jatt
13.65989385 PAK_Kohistani
16.00761694 Kshatriya
16.29189369 Burusho
16.74072280 Meena
17.15129441 Pashtun_Yusafzai
17.69679067 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
18.44744427 Pathan
18.45026829 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
19.03031792 Kho
19.03036784 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu
19.03544588 Pashtun_Tarkalani
19.03591605 Kalash
Distance: 2.1831% / 2.18314300
Target: AGUR1 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.6 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
25.5 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
8.3 Jatt
4.3 Danish
1.3 Latvian
Distance: 2.2067% / 2.20672398
Target: AGUR1 | ADC: 0.5x RC
60.7 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
25.8 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
7.8 Jatt
5.7 Danish
Sharma -Also Steppe shifted. shows excess Latvian
Population
Gedrosia 30.62 Pct
Siberian 0.78 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.73 Pct
Atlantic_Med 1.29 Pct
North_European 16.63 Pct
South_Asian 35.8 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.18 Pct
East_Asian 6.09 Pct
Caucasus 6.89 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Sharma
4.90138756 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
12.35998786 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
14.62891657 PAK_Kohistani
15.22644739 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
17.53021677 Jatt
17.55287156 Kshatriya
17.60862289 Pashtun_Yusafzai
17.83797354 Burusho
18.92791853 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
19.23024961 Kho
19.36008006 Pashtun_Tarkalani
19.74196799 Meena
19.78035136 Cochin_Jews
20.09102287 Kalash
20.35695950 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu
Distance: 2.8649% / 2.86494838
Target: Sharma | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.2 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
7.7 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
3.8 Pulliyar
3.7 Latvian
1.6 Mordovian
Distance: 3.6229% / 3.62287052
Target: Sharma | ADC: 0.5x RC
85.5 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
10.4 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
4.1 Latvian
Bajgain - High Med. Shows excess Basque or French.
Population
Gedrosia 33.29 Pct
Siberian 1.73 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 4.37 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.19 Pct
North_European 13.57 Pct
South_Asian 34.49 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 2.41 Pct
Caucasus 4.63 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.31 Pct
Distance to: Bajgain
4.99615852 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
11.68127133 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
13.73876268 PAK_Kohistani
14.21236434 Jatt
16.06624100 Kshatriya
16.26259819 Meena
17.06990627 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
17.09163831 Burusho
17.17016599 Pashtun_Yusafzai
17.83919000 Cochin_Jews
18.56782163 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu
18.59006993 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
18.67760959 Pathan
19.24310006 Pashtun_Tarkalani
19.57444508 Kho
Distance: 0.8034% / 0.80340906
Target: Bajgain | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.6 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
25.8 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
12.7 Jatt
5.1 Spanish_Basque
4.4 Cambodians
3.4 Meena
Distance: 1.2430% / 1.24299306
Target: Bajgain | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.1 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
26.1 Meena
6.9 French2
5.0 PANIYA
4.9 Jatt
Aryal Another High Med. But shows Tajik shift.
Population
Gedrosia 32.51 Pct
Siberian 0.8 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.67 Pct
North_European 13.56 Pct
South_Asian 33.02 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.3 Pct
East_Asian 6 Pct
Caucasus 7.83 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.31 Pct
Distance to: Aryal
4.44662794 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
11.58154998 PAK_Kohistani
13.91251235 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
14.44878888 Pashtun_Yusafzai
14.80175665 Burusho
15.11779084 Jatt
15.29427344 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
15.96707237 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
16.50316333 Pashtun_Tarkalani
17.08785534 Kho
17.29472752 Pathan
17.67585076 Kalash
18.19821969 Tajik_Kabul
18.28736176 Nuristani
18.57562920 Kshatriya
Distance: 2.0570% / 2.05695102
Target: Aryal | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.4 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
10.0 Burusho
8.0 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
6.8 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
4.8 French
Distance: 2.5585% / 2.55852852
Target: Aryal | ADC: 0.5x RC
88.3 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
7.7 Tajik_Kabul
3.8 Spanish_Valencia
0.2 Balkan_Gypsy
Distance: 3.3131% / 3.31313015
Target: Aryal | ADC: 1x RC
85.8 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
14.2 Tajik_Kabul
Testing Nepali Brahmins/Bahuns
Can you please follow my color selection? :)
Gedrosia - (indigo)
Siberian - (red)
Northwest_African - (blue)
Southeast_Asian - (red)
Atlantic_Med - (green)
North_European - (green)
South_Asian - (saddle brown)
East_African - (maroon)
Southwest_Asian - (blue)
East_Asian - (red)
Caucasus - (indigo)
Sub_Saharan - (maroon)
My guess Iran _Arab are Arab Iraqis. Assyrian and Mandean are obvious. Jews similarity are also some kind of Christian Arabs?
Yes they live close to the Iraq border.
But it seems not all are incldued as still are other Turkmen in run.
Also too many Yazidis... I think Yazidi average is off... I guess there are just Iran Kurds here mainly.
Interesting there is even Uzbek,Tajik and few Pashtuns.
I think I used all of the Turkmen and Arabs.
Yazidids are pretty Iranian genetically. If anything it's one of the best averages and there is not a good other West-Iranian/Iran Kurd average. Iran_Fars is quite southern shifted for a lot of Persians too.
Yazidids are pretty Iranian genetically. If anything it's one of the best averages and there is not a good other West-Iranian/Iran Kurd average. Iran_Fars is quite southern shifted for a lot of Persians too.
"Iranian" seems to be very Northern Iranian.
Obviously from SE Iran (I picked only those with 40% Gedrosia or higher, 35-39% might be from there too.
Iran_6AQ26,48.98,0.58,0,1.05,0,5.42,16.88,0.39,11. 71,0,14.86,0.14
Iran_6AM121,53.11,0,0.72,0.02,4.68,3.04,13.87,0.61 ,9.24,2.5,12.21,0.01
Iran_5AQ7,41.05,0,0,0.61,3.76,3.44,10.7,2.25,13.49 ,0.18,22.15,2.36
Iran_5AQ70,43.5,0.12,0,0.4,4.51,6.67,14.15,0,8.2,0 .21,17.83,4.4
Iran_5AQ26,41.54,0,1.63,1.55,2.55,3.88,15.09,1.31, 8.69,0,18.47,5.28
Iran_5AQ61,42.28,0.46,0,0,1.94,7.99,17.02,0,7.85,0 .97,21.49,0
Iran_4AM140,45.2,2.1,0,0.18,1.21,7.76,14.97,0.64,1 0.62,0,17.32,0
Iran_5AM103,41.86,0.93,0,0,2.12,5.54,13.63,1.67,12 .63,0,20.68,0.95
Iran_2AQ65,45.14,2.14,0,0,3.42,5.52,16.14,0.14,8.7 4,0.31,17.88,0.57
Iran_3AQ101,39.19,1.32,0.01,0.89,2.68,9.67,11.62,0 .64,9.83,0,24.16,0
Iran_13AM149,49.43,0,0.26,0.03,2.34,5.43,14.18,0.6 9,10.75,0.09,16,0.8
Iran_11AM140,48.09,0,0,0.78,0,5.6,15.88,0.59,10.48 ,1.05,17.53,0
Some of those folks are very "basal", a whopping 50% Gedrosia!
Also, I noticed one with 27% SSA. Schwarze Leben zählen, auch im Iran :rolleyes:
"Iranian" seems to be very Northern Iranian.
Obviously from SE Iran (I picked only those with 40% Gedrosia or higher, 35-39% might be from there too.
Iran_6AQ26,48.98,0.58,0,1.05,0,5.42,16.88,0.39,11. 71,0,14.86,0.14
Iran_6AM121,53.11,0,0.72,0.02,4.68,3.04,13.87,0.61 ,9.24,2.5,12.21,0.01
Iran_5AQ7,41.05,0,0,0.61,3.76,3.44,10.7,2.25,13.49 ,0.18,22.15,2.36
Iran_5AQ70,43.5,0.12,0,0.4,4.51,6.67,14.15,0,8.2,0 .21,17.83,4.4
Iran_5AQ26,41.54,0,1.63,1.55,2.55,3.88,15.09,1.31, 8.69,0,18.47,5.28
Iran_5AQ61,42.28,0.46,0,0,1.94,7.99,17.02,0,7.85,0 .97,21.49,0
Iran_4AM140,45.2,2.1,0,0.18,1.21,7.76,14.97,0.64,1 0.62,0,17.32,0
Iran_5AM103,41.86,0.93,0,0,2.12,5.54,13.63,1.67,12 .63,0,20.68,0.95
Iran_2AQ65,45.14,2.14,0,0,3.42,5.52,16.14,0.14,8.7 4,0.31,17.88,0.57
Iran_3AQ101,39.19,1.32,0.01,0.89,2.68,9.67,11.62,0 .64,9.83,0,24.16,0
Iran_13AM149,49.43,0,0.26,0.03,2.34,5.43,14.18,0.6 9,10.75,0.09,16,0.8
Iran_11AM140,48.09,0,0,0.78,0,5.6,15.88,0.59,10.48 ,1.05,17.53,0
Some of those folks are very "basal", a whopping 50% Gedrosia!
Also, I noticed one with 27% SSA. Schwarze Leben zählen, auch im Iran :rolleyes:
They are likely Balochs. The SSA one is Afro-Iranian from the Gulf. He is modelled as Bandari+SSA
They are likely Balochs. The SSA one is Afro-Iranian.
Then maybe it'd make sense to combine the previous Balochis with some of these. Two Afro-Iranians are to be excluded from the average. You'll be the judge, examine each sample individually and then decide.
Iran_5AQ65,22.91,0.21,0,0.48,1.73,4.1,10.65,5.93,7 .27,0.51,18.48,27.74
Distance: 1.4748% / 1.47478332
Target: Iran_5AQ65 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.3 Iran_Bandari
18.1 Bantu_S.E._Tswana
11.2 Bantu_N.E.
8.9 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
4.5 Balkan_Gypsy
Iran_5AQ99,26.33,0.55,0,0.48,1.34,4.83,11.29,3.92, 9.81,0,17.69,23.77
Distance: 1.9670% / 1.96696602
Target: Iran_5AQ99 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.8 Iran_Bandari
22.7 Bantu_S.E._Tswana
10.5 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
2.0 Yemenite_mixed
There are some more with substantial Black ancestry but it's below 10%. Probably Arabs and Balochis/Sistanis.
harutsafaryan07
12-17-2020, 07:35 AM
New Armenians most look West Armenians
Armenian1,13.63,0,1.05,0,11.22,2.79,1.31,0.19,14.9 ,0,54.9,0
Armenian2,18.16,0,0.72,0.48,9.78,4.82,0.93,0,12.66 ,0,52.46,0
Armenian3,14.84,0.24,2.04,0,12.32,3.03,0,0,15.81,0 .22,51.38,0.13
Armenian4,16.63,0.29,0,0,13.04,2.23,0.84,0.12,15.5 9,0,51.19,0.08
Armenian5,14.78,0,1.56,0,11.54,3.92,0.19,0.59,16.8 3,0,50.59,0
Armenian6,17.28,0,0.41,0,11.31,4.87,0,0,15.36,0.24 ,50.53,0
Armenian7,16.08,0,0.81,0,10.36,4.35,0.51,0,17.27,0 .17,50.46,0
Armenian8,17.16,0,0.4,0,12.03,3.24,0.39,0,16.47,0, 50.31,0
Armenian9,15.36,0,0.8,0,11.47,5.06,1.3,0,15.76,0,5 0.25,0
Armenian10,15.89,0.32,2.66,0,11.94,1.4,1.31,0,16.2 9,0,50.18,0
Armenian11,18.96,0.06,2.18,0,9.21,3.62,0,0,15.79,0 .01,50.04,0.13
Armenian12,16.63,0.21,0,0.88,11.68,6.05,0,0,14.55, 0,50,0
Armenian13,14.07,0,1.17,0,11.24,3.79,1.63,0,18.31, 0,49.79,0
Armenian14,15.61,0,0.92,0.37,12,3.39,0.67,0,16.84, 0.41,49.78,0.01
Armenian15,15.37,0,0.71,0,12.81,4.9,0.97,0.12,15.5 3,0,49.59,0
Armenian16,18.37,0,2.12,0,10.39,2.75,0.23,0.18,16. 35,0,49.55,0.06
Armenian17,17.35,0,0.92,0,13.53,2.7,0,0,15.96,0,49 .53,0
Armenian18,14.57,0.29,0.7,0,11.3,5.06,2.2,0,16.35, 0.02,49.52,0
Armenian19,17.09,0,0,0,13.44,2.34,0.15,0,17.43,0,4 9.49,0.06
Armenian20,15.48,0.32,1.84,0,13.84,4.25,0,0,14.72, 0.15,49.41,0
Armenian21,16.45,0,1.83,0,14.06,3.57,0.86,0,13.84, 0,49.39,0
Armenian22,15.71,0.26,1.51,0,11.21,7.41,0.07,0,14. 5,0,49.33,0
Armenian23,15.42,0.77,1.25,1.22,13.26,2.7,0,0,16.1 4,0,49.25,0
Armenian24,16.6,0,0.81,0,11.76,2.51,0,0,19.12,0,49 .2,0
Armenian25,16.33,0,2.07,0.12,9.76,1.59,0.17,0,20.4 1,0.37,49.17,0
Armenian26,18.23,0,0.5,0.39,13.61,2.74,0,0,15.37,0 ,49.15,0
Armenian27,15.45,0,2.39,0.14,12.49,3.32,0.13,0,16. 74,0.29,49.05,0
Armenian28,18.15,0,1.89,0,9.36,3.96,0,0,17.83,0,48 .82,0
Armenian29,17.36,0.33,0.17,0,11.13,4.17,0.3,0.25,1 7.51,0,48.78,0
Armenian30,19.82,0,0.22,0,11.97,0.47,1.28,0,17.48, 0,48.76,0
Armenian31,15.67,0,2.67,0,12.61,2.96,0.57,0,16.69, 0.16,48.68,0
Armenian32,15.98,0.89,1.14,0,10.16,5.29,0.08,0.18, 17.61,0,48.67,0
Armenian33,16.09,0,1.13,0,12.42,2.7,1,0,17.21,0.83 ,48.63,0
Armenian34,16.2,0,1.89,0,12.54,3.93,0,0,16.63,0.41 ,48.4,0
Armenian35,16.29,0.15,1.27,0.02,10.76,7.03,0.4,0.7 3,14.98,0,48.37,0
Armenian36,17.57,0.37,1.94,0,14.11,2.83,0.89,0,13. 93,0,48.37,0
Armenian37,13.92,0,1.65,0,13.63,5.57,0.97,0.15,15. 91,0,48.21,0
Armenian38,14.88,0,1.35,0,12.17,4.33,0.74,0,18.32, 0,48.18,0.04
Armenian39,16.8,0.51,0,0,14.81,2.1,0,0,17.69,0,48. 09,0
Armenian40,16.78,0,1.71,0,10.48,6.78,1.34,0.39,14. 94,0,47.59,0
Armenian41,16.25,0,0.84,0,12.1,5.11,1.12,0.49,16.1 ,0.41,47.59,0
Armenian42,18.03,0,1.74,0.66,13.82,1.29,0.36,0,16. 75,0,47.35,0
Armenian43,16.43,0,2.19,0.08,14.43,2.2,0,0.16,17.3 2,0,47.2,0
Armenian44,17.86,0,1.48,0,13.4,3.71,1.1,0.02,15.23 ,0.33,46.87,0
Armenian45,18.42,0,1.71,0,14.13,4.11,0.88,0,13.96, 0,46.79,0
Armenian46,17.48,0.49,0.57,0,11.56,5.14,1.23,0,16. 62,0.15,46.76,0
Armenian47,14.61,0,1.92,0,11.71,3.12,1.35,1.13,19. 49,0,46.68,0
Armenian48,17.15,0.42,0.7,0,14.19,3.29,0.2,0,17.5, 0,46.55,0
Armenian49,18.52,0,0.71,0,13.99,4.89,0,0,15.47,0.2 9,46.13,0
Armenian50,13.83,0,0.02,0,13.21,3.72,0.04,0,16.1,0 ,53.08,0
Armenian51,11.24,0,0.01,0,16.01,4.32,0.9,0.48,15.3 9,0,51.64,0.01
Armenian52,10.18,0,0,0,15.42,5.53,0.95,0,16.37,1.0 9,50.45,0
Armenian53,11.06,0.24,0,0,19.22,3,0.83,0,15.47,0,5 0.15,0.03
Armenian54,15.25,0,0,0.3,14.24,0.92,0.67,0.27,18.3 9,0,49.98,0
Armenian55,13.53,0,0,0,17.35,2.7,0.92,0,15.96,0,49 .53,0
Armenian56,11.44,0,0.88,0.07,15.47,4.22,1.46,0.31, 17.29,0,48.87,0
Armenian57,11.13,0.25,0.3,0,17.36,4.17,0.17,0.33,1 7.51,0,48.78,0
Armenian58,12.41,0.02,0,0,15.74,4.01,2.41,0,16.48, 0.29,48.65,0
Armenian59,14.64,0.18,1.26,0.95,16.04,3.48,0,0.18, 14.65,0,48.62,0
Armenian60,12.68,0,0.19,0,17.99,4,1.23,0,15.65,0.7 8,47.44,0.03
Armenian61,15.68,0,0.48,0,16.03,3.2,1.66,0,16.12,0 ,46.83,0
Are these Armenians only from Armenia?
@harut,
when you average them, what does the outcome look like? The Armenians are one of the most homogeneous peoples I've seen. If you're Armenian from an Armenian family you probably don't even need to test because you're not going to score markedly different from the others :)
Lucas
12-17-2020, 01:48 PM
Yes they live close to the Iraq border.
I think I used all of the Turkmen and Arabs.
Yes, just nMonte is not perfect here.
Yazidids are pretty Iranian genetically. If anything it's one of the best averages and there is not a good other West-Iranian/Iran Kurd average. Iran_Fars is quite southern shifted for a lot of Persians too.
Ok, but my point is there are very small group comparing to Kurds. There are more chances someone from Iran has Kurdish than Yazid ancestry.
Lucas
12-17-2020, 01:50 PM
Are these Armenians only from Armenia?
@harut,
when you average them, what does the outcome look like? The Armenians are one of the most homogeneous peoples I've seen. If you're Armenian from an Armenian family you probably don't even need to test because you're not going to score markedly different from the others :)
They are from the same paper as Menas which I posted. It is said Armenia.
They are form the same paper as Menas which I posted. It is said from Armenia.
I know the source.
By the way, since you're here, "Turkmen", "Turkmen_Iraq" and the duplicate "Turkmen_Iran" should be deleted. The Iraq one is just two or three samples and not really needed. I think Kyp agrees with this.
harutsafaryan07
12-17-2020, 02:15 PM
Are these Armenians only from Armenia?
@harut,
when you average them, what does the outcome look like? The Armenians are one of the most homogeneous peoples I've seen. If you're Armenian from an Armenian family you probably don't even need to test because you're not going to score markedly different from the others :)I'm not sure if they are from Armenia Armenians from samples look more like on Armenians from south east and central anatolia they can be from Syria and Lebanon some even closer to the Anatolia Greeks and Cypriot and to the Alawites than to Armenians
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11 Jordanian Christians. Can't be sure but they score 0% SSA and their Atlantic_Med is high.
Jordan_Christian,8.53,0.12,4.85,0.17,15.1,1.09,0.1 6,1.73,25.8,0.17,42.28,0
Very similar to my SW Syrian Christian and Palestinian Christian averages, as expected.
Jordan_Muslim,10.35,0.16,5.57,0.26,12.6,1.84,1.1,5 .09,25.03,0.41,35.63,1.99
I excluded one Circassian-like outlier and one that looked straight up Egyptian. Let's hope they sampled actual Jordanians and not recent Palestinian refugees.
So we can safely remove the legacy Jordanian
Distance to: Jordan_Muslim
1.64438438 Palestinian
3.19632602 Syrian_C
4.42631901 Jordanians
7.95291770 Syrian_A
8.33910067 Lebanese_Muslim
8.57569822 Syria_SW_Christian
8.88602273 Palestinian_Christian
9.63137456 Egyptian
9.86044624 Lebanese_Christian
10.39246362 Syrian_B
Distance: 0.5003% / 0.50030637
Target: Jordan_Muslim | ADC: 0.5x RC
93.0 Palestinian
4.6 Yemenite_mixed
2.4 Kuwait1
Distance to: Jordan_Christian
1.17698768 Syria_SW_Christian
1.38191896 Palestinian_Christian
3.46327879 Lebanese_Christian
7.27697739 Syrian_A
7.41520735 Lebanese_Muslim
7.49584552 Palestinian
7.57169730 Jordanians
8.00046874 Nusayri_Turkey
8.11990148 Syrian_C
10.23439300 Greek_Cypriot
Distance: 0.6429% / 0.64288344
Target: Jordan_Christian | ADC: 0.5x RC
74.2 Palestinian_Christian
19.4 Syria_SW_Christian
6.4 Coptic
CommonSense
12-17-2020, 04:28 PM
Found these Turks in my match list:
Kit FE4205364
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 26.14
2 East_Med 25.2
3 West_Med 12.38
4 North_Atlantic 9.66
5 Siberian 9.39
6 Baltic 5.4
7 Red_Sea 4.36
8 South_Asian 3.54
9 Amerindian 1.5
10 East_Asian 1.48
11 Northeast_African 0.95
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 8.52
2 Azeri 12.62
3 Turkmen 14.98
4 Kurdish 17.88
5 Central_Greek 18.07
6 Kumyk 18.13
7 Lebanese_Muslim 18.23
8 Armenian 18.37
9 Georgian_Jewish 18.54
10 Iranian 18.56
11 East_Sicilian 18.58
12 Assyrian 18.65
13 South_Italian 18.71
14 Syrian 18.92
15 Nogay 19.33
16 Italian_Abruzzo 19.38
17 Cyprian 19.66
18 Ashkenazi 20.18
19 Iranian_Jewish 20.43
20 Sephardic_Jewish 20.44
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89% Turkish + 11% Ket @ 3.89
2 89.3% Turkish + 10.7% Selkup @ 3.97
3 90.6% Turkish + 9.4% Koryak @ 4.29
4 91.2% Turkish + 8.8% Dolgan @ 4.35
5 90.4% Turkish + 9.6% Chukchi @ 4.39
6 86.6% Turkish + 13.4% Shors @ 4.4
7 91.8% Turkish + 8.2% Evens @ 4.54
8 91.8% Turkish + 8.2% Evenki @ 4.59
9 91.4% Turkish + 8.6% Yakut @ 4.7
10 87.6% Turkish + 12.4% Hakas @ 4.79
11 88.6% Turkish + 11.4% Altaian @ 5
12 90% Turkish + 10% Tuvinian @ 5.02
13 91.9% Turkish + 8.1% Oroqen @ 5.25
14 50.5% Nogay + 49.5% Cyprian @ 5.3
15 90.2% Turkish + 9.8% West_Greenlander @ 5.32
16 79.8% Turkish + 20.2% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.37
17 90.7% Turkish + 9.3% Buryat @ 5.41
18 87.7% Turkish + 12.3% Mari @ 5.41
19 86.9% Turkish + 13.1% Kazakh @ 5.41
20 91.4% Turkish + 8.6% East_Greenlander @ 5.55
Kit NB1875738
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.86
2 West_Asian 27.53
3 North_Atlantic 11.91
4 West_Med 9.1
5 Baltic 8.3
6 Siberian 3.62
7 South_Asian 3.46
8 Red_Sea 3.16
9 East_Asian 3.06
10 Amerindian 0.76
11 Oceanian 0.24
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 7.12
2 Azeri 10.06
3 Kurdish 15.34
4 Turkmen 15.75
5 Georgian_Jewish 16.1
6 Assyrian 16.18
7 Iranian 16.26
8 Armenian 16.27
9 Kumyk 16.28
10 Lebanese_Muslim 16.73
11 Central_Greek 16.95
12 East_Sicilian 17.79
13 Iranian_Jewish 17.99
14 South_Italian 18.12
15 Syrian 18.2
16 Italian_Abruzzo 18.2
17 Kurdish_Jewish 18.57
18 Cyprian 18.6
19 Ashkenazi 18.79
20 Sephardic_Jewish 19.86
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.9% Turkish + 10.1% La_Brana-1 @ 3.82
2 89.2% Turkish + 10.8% North_Swedish @ 3.95
3 89.6% Turkish + 10.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.02
4 89.9% Turkish + 10.1% Finnish @ 4.11
5 89.3% Turkish + 10.7% Swedish @ 4.12
6 86.2% Turkish + 13.8% Hungarian @ 4.15
7 89.4% Turkish + 10.6% Norwegian @ 4.18
8 88.6% Turkish + 11.4% North_German @ 4.19
9 89.1% Turkish + 10.9% Danish @ 4.2
10 90.3% Turkish + 9.7% Estonian @ 4.27
11 89.2% Turkish + 10.8% North_Dutch @ 4.28
12 88.4% Turkish + 11.6% South_Polish @ 4.32
13 90.2% Turkish + 9.8% East_Finnish @ 4.32
14 89.7% Turkish + 10.3% Belorussian @ 4.34
15 87.3% Turkish + 12.7% Austrian @ 4.35
16 68.7% Azeri + 31.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.36
17 87.9% Turkish + 12.1% East_German @ 4.38
18 89.5% Turkish + 10.5% Orcadian @ 4.43
19 72.7% Azeri + 27.3% Bulgarian @ 4.43
20 89% Turkish + 11% Southwest_Russian @ 4.44
Mejgusu
12-17-2020, 06:38 PM
Central Anatolian Kurd from Aksaray, originally from Adiyaman, Urfa and Gaziantep.
Gedrosian: 25.61 Pct
Siberian: 0.65 pct
Northwest_African: 1.00 pct
Southeast_Asian: 1.00 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 6.89 Pct
North_European: 6.80 Pct
South_Asian: 2.89 Pct
East_African: 0.00 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 14.20 Pct
East_Asian: 0.82 Pct
Caucasus: 40.14 pct
Sub_Saharan: 0.00 Pct
Distance to: Aks_Kurd
4.04163333 Kurd
4.15268588 Kurds
4.42998871 Iranian
7.15728999 Iranians
9.17784288 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.73150392 Turks
15.86419869 Azerbaijan_Jews
15.98458007 Iranian_Jews
16.17120898 Georgia_Jews
16.35435110 Turkish
16.55302993 Assyrian
17.28024595 Turkmens
17.51772816 Iraq_Jews
18.02162035 Armenians_15
19.02635015 Armenian
19.25426706 Lebanese
19.31058777 Kumyks
21.16115072 Syrians
22.91353094 Druze
22.92009599 Armenians
23.59098981 Jordanians
23.63731795 Lezgins
25.76638896 Chechens
26.30548232 Cypriots
27.14064295 Palestinian
Target: Aks_Kurd
39.9 Kurd
33.5 Kurds
15.9 Uzbekistan_Jews
4.7 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
4.0 Bulgarian
1.1 Lebanese
0.9 PANIYA
Mejgusu
12-18-2020, 07:07 AM
Feyli Kurd(or Luri?) from Iran. True Zagros mountaineer:
Gedrosian: 31.18 Pct
Siberian: 1.81 pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 0.6 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 4.98 Pct
North_European: 3.09 Pct
South_Asian: 2.08 Pct
East_African: 0.18Pct
Southwest_Asian: 14.52 Pct
East_Asian: 0.34 Pct
Caucasus: 40.70 pct
Sub_Saharan: 0.52 Pct
Distance to: Iran_Feyli
4.61967531 Lur_Iran
4.68257408 Iranian
5.59168132 Kurd_KAZ
6.97196529 Iran_Mazandaran
7.57238404 Yazidi
7.82169419 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.77928813 Kurd_Sorani
8.96656567 Iranian_Fars
9.03476618 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.28400776 Zaza
10.74600391 Turkmen_Iraq
11.70175201 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.56448672 Azerbaijani
13.65669433 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.68112934 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.41818643 Mandean
14.45671816 Iran_Khorasan
15.14493975 Iraqi_Baghdad
15.55261714 Iranian_Jew
15.59247254 Azeri_Jew
15.99154777 Turk_Southeast
16.04581565 Turk_East
16.34808246 Assyrian_North
16.62200048 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
16.75674491 Assyrian_South
Target: Iran_Feyli
54.7 Kurd_KAZ
32.9 Lur_Iran
7.3 Balochi
5.1 Iran_Mazandaran
Persian either from Yazd or Kerman
Gedrosian: 30.60
Siberian: 1.21
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.26
North_European: 8.08
South_Asian: 5.47
East_African: 1.10
Southwest_Asian: 10.97
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasus: 35.21
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Persian_Zoroastrian
5.51322047 Iranian_Fars
6.52486015 Iran_Mazandaran
6.64635238 Iranian
7.40384360 Yazidi
7.64149200 Iran_Khorasan
7.67192935 Lur_Iran
9.10594311 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.21489555 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.26800950 Kurd_Sorani
9.85498858 Kurd_KAZ
10.55015166 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.66871595 Zaza
11.66004288 Azerbaijani
11.81895511 Turkmen_Iraq
12.65567067 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.03960889 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.44122390 Parsi_India
14.59060314 Turk_Southeast
14.67404852 Iran_Bandari
15.28060208 Udi_Azerbaijan
15.44889316 Turkmen
16.41330558 Lezgin
16.44181559 Tajik_Herat
16.46334413 Iraqi_Baghdad
16.74399892 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
Distance: 2.7173% / 2.71731089
Target: Persian_Zoroastrian | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.2 Iran_Mazandaran
26.1 Yazidi
18.4 Iranian_Fars
16.3 Yagnobi
Azerbaijani (Qajar tribe) from Republic + Tat:
Gedrosian: 19.02
Siberian: 2.15
Northwest_African: 1.59
Southeast_Asian: 0.12
Atlantic_Med: 5.88
North_European: 11.28
South_Asian: 0.87
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.61
East_Asian: 3.16
Caucasus: 42.93
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Qajar/Tat
5.90249947 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.59970454 Azerbaijani
6.65053381 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.94193777 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.08042372 Turk_East
7.78772110 Zaza
7.85344510 Turk_Southeast
8.25069088 Turk_Central_East
8.43142337 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.58772380 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.48196182 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.49253391 Turk_South
9.68777580 Turkmen_Iraq
9.76933468 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.21695160 Kurd_Sorani
10.51276843 Kurd_KAZ
10.64751614 Yazidi
10.76941967 Turk_Central_West
10.84858516 Armenian_East
11.34913213 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
11.78862587 Turk_Ahiska
11.90882446 Ingush
11.97917777 Circassian
12.16000411 Iranian
12.18364888 Karachay
Distance: 1.5940% / 1.59403915
Target: Azerbaijani_Qajar/Tat | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.2 Kumyks
25.5 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.7 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.5 Yemenite_Mahra
10.1 Azerbaijani
Mejgusu
12-18-2020, 01:54 PM
Target: Azerbaijani_Qajar/Tat | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.2 Kumyks
25.5 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.7 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.5 Yemenite_Mahra
10.1 Azerbaijani
How does a Tat result look like?
How does a Tat result look like?
We only have seen one result so far.
I think them living in northern regions they are slightly northern/Caucasus shifted and obviously without significant East Eurasian
I expect them to have slightly higher NorthEuro and less South_Asian than average Azerbaijani.
The question is were all Tats like this or just the remaining ones.
CommonSense's matches
Gedrosia 14.47 Pct
Siberian 6.95 Pct
Northwest_African 1.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 13.83 Pct
North_European 11.46 Pct
South_Asian 1.66 Pct
East_African 1.06 Pct
Southwest_Asian 9.45 Pct
East_Asian 4.07 Pct
Caucasus 35.76 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: CS_match_1
2.56815109 Turk_Southwest
3.79251895 Turk_West_BlackSea
4.10145096 Turk_Central_West
4.43558339 Turk_Northwest
4.51008869 Turk_South
5.71586389 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.65226277 Turk_Central_East
8.37009558 Turk_Southeast
10.24390551 Azerbaijani
10.32776839 Azerbaijani_Turkey
Distance: 0.7943% / 0.79432678
Target: CS_match_1 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.9 Turk_Southwest
20.8 Turk_East
5.5 Ingush
4.8 Sardinian
4.2 Ket
3.9 Udi_Azerbaijan
1.5 Balkan_Gypsy
0.9 Sandawe_He
0.5 Nuristani
Distance: 2.4052% / 2.40515639
Target: CS_match_1 | ADC: 0.5x RC
87.3 Turk_Southwest
12.7 Turk_Central_East
Gedrosia 14.51 Pct
Siberian 3.78 Pct
Northwest_African 0.23 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 14.7 Pct
North_European 15.73 Pct
South_Asian 0.92 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.63 Pct
East_Asian 4.15 Pct
Caucasus 37.35 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: CS_match_2
3.87378368 Turk_West_BlackSea
5.62092519 Turk_Northwest
5.66332058 Turk_Southwest
6.03485708 Turk_Central_West
7.56316733 Turk_South
7.87702355 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
8.16659660 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.16875756 Turk_Central_East
10.46207914 Turk_Southeast
11.55010822 Azerbaijani
Distance: 1.1843% / 1.18425917
Target: CS_match_2 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.3 Turk_West_BlackSea
15.2 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
14.2 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
11.6 Greek_Lemnos
6.7 Karachay
Distance: 1.5399% / 1.53985882
Target: CS_match_2 | ADC: 0.5x RC
60.1 Turk_West_BlackSea
25.1 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
13.2 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
1.6 Karachay
Mejgusu
12-18-2020, 06:26 PM
Feyli from Irak and Iran:
IK_Feyli,25.84,2.05,0.91,0.32,8.39,5.25,4.56,0.45, 14.55,0,37.68,0
IRN_Feyli,27.26,0.55,1.17,0.50,5.70,4.82,3.24,0.36 ,14.63,0,41.72,0
Distance to: IRN_Feyli
2.80572629 Kurd_KAZ
2.95891872 Lur_Iran
3.87193750 Iranian
4.16839298 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.70144659 Yazidi
5.11062618 Kurd_Sorani
5.30062260 Zaza
5.37962824 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.39908102 Turkmen_Iraq
7.70977950 Iran_Mazandaran
7.84050381 Iranian_Fars
8.42141318 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.71936726 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.31344268 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.32764736 Azerbaijani
11.39950438 Mandean
11.88006734 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.09389102 Turk_East
12.13126539 Azeri_Jew
12.33952592 Iranian_Jew
12.58861390 Turk_Southeast
12.93299656 Assyrian_North
13.31866735 Assyrian_South
13.65822463 Iran_Khorasan
13.94414572 Assyrian_West
Distance to: IK_Feyli
2.79551426 Yazidi
3.42610566 Kurd_Sorani
3.64248542 Lur_Iran
3.98347838 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.14073925 Iranian_Fars
5.54961260 Iranian
5.59105536 Turkmen_Iraq
5.86055458 Zaza
6.02071424 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.54784697 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.86642556 Kurd_KAZ
8.02959526 Azerbaijani
8.74196774 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.49911575 Iran_Mazandaran
9.85118775 Turk_Southeast
9.90430714 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.69200636 Iran_Khorasan
11.22675376 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.95614486 Mandean
12.45212030 Turk_East
12.80987119 Iran_Arab
12.87186078 Iranian_Jew
12.99370617 Syrian_B
13.31864107 Turk_Central_East
13.38967139 Azeri_Jew
Distance: 1.2898% / 1.28982931
Target: IRN_Feyli | ADC: 0.5x RC
49.6 Kurd_KAZ
44.7 Lur_Iran
5.7 Mandean
Distance: 1.6438% / 1.64381649
Target: IK_Feyli | ADC: 0.5x RC
48.9 Lur_Iran
33.8 Yazidi
10.7 Kurd_Sorani
6.6 Balkan_Gypsy
Let us finish processing the West Asian academic data, shall we? What's to be added and what not.
Lucas
12-18-2020, 10:09 PM
Let us finish processing the West Asian academic data, shall we? What's to be added and what not.
Ok there are definite refs ready?
Ok there are definite refs ready?
For starters let's scrap "Jordanians" and replace it with these
Jordanian_Christian,8.53,0.12,4.85,0.17,15.1,1.09, 0.16,1.73,25.8,0.17,42.28,0
Jordanian_Muslim,10.35,0.16,5.57,0.26,12.6,1.84,1. 1,5.09,25.03,0.41,35.63,1.99
Aren will decide if Lebanese should be replaced. Syrians are not analyzed yet, Armenians, Assyrians aren't needed, I think.
Can somebody average these Syrians? Kurds, Assyrians, a couple of Lebanese-Christian-like samples and one half Egyptian were removed, the rest look almost certainly Arab Muslim. It's better to have one solid Syrian Arab AVERAGE than 3 references of unknown provenance.
Syria_10AH252,13,0,3.42,1.97,14.53,3.95,1.73,3.06, 17.11,0.69,40.53,0
Syria_10AJ100,12.53,0.59,3.51,0.79,13.95,4.92,0,2. 74,19.52,1.39,40.06,0
Syria_10AR15,13.94,0,3.65,1.05,11.55,5.8,1.41,3.35 ,17.86,1.41,39.86,0.12
Syria_11AH326,16.45,0.53,3.81,0.58,13.4,5.38,1.49, 1.68,16.11,1.13,39.02,0.42
Syria_11AJ100,15.26,1.94,3.61,0.42,15.74,5.4,2.21, 1.19,14.93,0.08,39.22,0
Syria_11AJ152,14.66,1.15,2.47,0.93,13.15,5.69,2.12 ,2.29,17.16,1.53,38.04,0.8
Syria_11AR16,14.76,0.86,1.92,1.87,10.11,0.93,2.18, 4.27,26.7,0.12,31.4,4.88
Syria_12AJ118,12.5,0.83,3.03,0.08,8.64,2.31,2.13,6 .44,28.29,0.74,32.25,2.76
Syria_12AL16,15.47,0.25,1.75,0,9.72,4.99,1.67,1.67 ,20.91,1.87,37.9,3.8
Syria_12AR16,12.14,0,4.6,0.4,12.53,2.78,1.1,1.51,2 1.09,0.15,43.68,0
Syria_13AH252,13.55,1.04,4.4,0,9.45,2.84,3.56,4.62 ,24.38,0,33.87,2.29
Syria_13AH326,11.23,0.24,3.83,0.76,12.31,0,1.48,7. 5,26.89,0.4,34.37,0.99
Syria_13AR15,11.49,0.27,4.08,0.06,8.72,0.28,1.33,4 .94,28.99,0,35.8,4.03
Syria_14R7,11.89,0.51,4.53,0.1,16.46,4.4,0,2.9,19. 34,0.96,37.67,1.24
Syria_15AJ100,9.65,0,5.94,0,9.79,2.98,2.1,3.87,26. 63,0.85,35.81,2.39
Syria_15AR16,10.51,0.45,3.3,0.54,10.67,0.08,2.65,3 .39,27.52,0.71,35.05,5.13
Syria_15R7,14.14,0,2.58,0,11.79,6.94,1.63,1.54,20. 95,1.81,38.54,0.06
Syria_16AH326,12.44,0,3.62,1.49,13.32,0.63,0.87,3. 62,24.87,0,37.65,1.51
Syria_16AJ100,13.72,0.39,2.61,0.4,9.07,0,1.64,6.18 ,30.53,1.03,31.83,2.59
Syria_16AJ177,14.03,0,5.28,0.73,7.45,3.92,3.59,5.0 5,27.02,0.52,28.03,4.38
Syria_16AR22,15.96,0,4.26,0.32,10.16,1.71,4.28,2.9 3,21.38,0.61,37.36,1.02
Syria_17AH326,9.77,0.48,4.26,0,9.43,3.67,2.56,6.76 ,27.24,0,33.15,2.69
Syria_17AJ119,12.59,0.45,3.93,0.81,8.47,0,0.8,4.77 ,31.14,0,34.42,2.62
Syria_17AJ181,12.47,0,3.51,0.82,11.88,4.41,2.5,3.6 9,21.03,0,36.87,2.81
Syria_18AJ152,13.15,0,3.33,0,7.34,5.12,1.8,4.21,29 .35,1.54,32.73,1.42
Syria_18AR15,12.47,0,2.46,1.76,6.43,2.48,1.5,4.1,3 0.79,0,33.7,4.31
Syria_19AL16,12.56,0.17,3.87,0.06,10.61,2.65,2.63, 4.57,27.15,0,34.13,1.6
Syria_19AR15,13.69,0,2.75,0,15.13,3.69,0.78,2.05,2 1.08,0,40.74,0.08
Syria_1AR18,11.81,1.57,4.22,0,7.35,3.13,3.76,5.06, 29.31,0,32.35,1.43
Syria_20AR15,13.76,1.75,1.93,0,9.18,3.49,2.52,5.22 ,25.54,0,33.06,3.57
Syria_21AR18,13.39,0,3.33,0.03,7.64,0.59,2.35,4.9, 29.67,0.46,35.02,2.61
Syria_22AR18,15.01,0.54,2.18,0.44,11.89,4.12,0,4.0 9,17.87,2.55,39.7,1.62
Syria_23AR15,12.4,0,4.47,0.94,6.18,1.9,0.92,5.62,3 0.26,0,35.06,2.24
Syria_24AR15,10.4,0,6.12,0,20.21,3.18,0.05,3.24,20 .71,0,35.32,0.78
Syria_24AR18,11.35,1.72,4.18,0,7.71,2.7,3.27,5.82, 30.66,0,30.74,1.85
Syria_26AH252,11.6,0.09,3.71,0,14.79,4.17,0,1.54,2 3.43,0,40.68,0
Syria_26AR15,11.72,0,3.8,0.86,7.67,1.93,1.21,5.58, 29.19,0.58,34.52,2.95
Syria_28AR15,13.54,0,3.28,0.33,9.65,1.97,2.98,4.46 ,24.5,0.19,35.34,3.76
Syria_29AH252,9.53,0,2.1,2.1,8.51,1.7,0.36,7.46,32 .15,0,32.98,3.1
Syria_2AR16,14.56,1.23,1.73,1.18,8.1,1.99,1.56,5.7 4,26.71,0.91,33.51,2.78
Syria_3AH326,12.79,0.65,5.61,0,8.42,1.81,2.02,5.15 ,25.9,0.72,33.94,2.97
Syria_3AJ112,16.44,0.25,3.33,0,14.99,3.57,0.49,1.2 ,18.62,0.34,39.96,0.81
Syria_3AJ116,12.69,0.58,4.02,1.39,10.54,4.03,0.39, 4.94,22.9,1.35,35.41,1.77
Syria_3AR16,10.51,0,2.66,0,15.64,2.77,0,1.93,20.85 ,0.95,44.69,0
Syria_4AJ120,14.4,1.11,2.36,1.44,10.52,5.93,0.98,2 .09,20.18,0,40.47,0.5
Syria_5AJ112,15.16,0,3.56,0,13.84,3.88,0.18,1.15,1 9.9,0.7,40.69,0.93
Syria_5AR16,16.23,1.64,2.75,0,11.58,6.68,2.11,1.68 ,19.02,0.64,37.65,0.01
Syria_5AS15,15.93,0.54,4.49,0.13,10.03,2.75,2.43,1 .02,22.42,0.6,39.1,0.57
Syria_6AH252,15.56,0,4.34,0.25,15.48,0.37,1.4,0.64 ,20.52,0,41.16,0.29
Syria_6AR15,15.48,0,3.95,1.95,12.8,2.73,1.68,4.25, 20.31,0,33.76,3.09
Syria_6AR16,10.85,2.01,4.41,0,7.09,0,1.09,5.47,33. 42,0,32.58,3.08
Syria_7AR15,12.8,0.23,5.21,1.2,8.89,1.55,1.92,4.97 ,25.81,0,35.63,1.78
Syria_8AH252,14.03,0.55,3.12,0,11.58,3.89,0.97,3.7 7,18.75,0,42.67,0.67
Syria_8AR15,13.88,0.29,3.31,0,10.82,2.81,2.28,3.68 ,26.64,1.66,31.56,3.07
Syria_9AR15,10.36,0,6.36,0,10.14,0.13,2.46,5.91,31 .08,0,32.41,1.14
Syria_Aut-11-12-01-02,12.46,0.23,4.12,2.55,14.67,3.31,0,2.51,19.85,0, 39.09,1.22
Syria_Aut-11-12-01-03,13.04,0,2.11,0.63,8.25,2.83,0.44,6.44,25.66,2.4 3,36.11,2.06
Syria_Aut-11-12-09-01,13.97,0,1.25,0,13.22,4.49,2.33,2.49,19.5,1.51,3 8.92,2.32
Syria_Aut-11-12-09-03,11.98,0.97,4.39,0.97,12.3,1.13,0.44,4.74,23.59, 0,36,3.47
Mejgusu
12-19-2020, 12:59 PM
Kurd from Elazig and Malatya:
Gedrosia: 25.85 Pct
Siberian: 2.02 Pct
Northwest_African: 0.62 Pct
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 9.96 Pct
North_European: 6.23 Pct
South_Asian: 2.68 Pct
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 11.45 Pct
East_Asian: -
Caucasus: 40.84 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -
Distance to: Kurd
3.68065212 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.77173700 Zaza
4.09594922 Yazidi
4.23080371 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.53229609 Iranian
5.65709289 Kurd_KAZ
5.82510086 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.05834961 Lur_Iran
6.38110492 Kurd_Sorani
6.89412068 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.27533504 Azerbaijani
7.40024324 Turkmen_Iraq
7.75875634 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.05566673 Iranian_Fars
9.54348993 Turk_East
9.54704143 Turk_Southeast
10.17716562 Iran_Mazandaran
11.69582404 Turk_Central_East
12.08410113 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.35975323 Iran_Khorasan
12.64249975 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.75216844 Azeri_Jew
12.90349953 Mandean
13.13066640 Armenian_East
13.15064257 Turk_South
Distance: 1.7967% / 1.79667056
Target: Kurd | ADC: 0.5x RC
61.9 Iranian
32.3 Zaza
5.8 Sardinian
Can somebody average these Syrians? Kurds, Assyrians, a couple of Lebanese-Christian-like samples and one half Egyptian were removed, the rest look almost certainly Arab Muslim. It's better to have one solid Syrian Arab AVERAGE than 3 references of unknown provenance.
Syria_10AH252,13,0,3.42,1.97,14.53,3.95,1.73,3.06, 17.11,0.69,40.53,0
Syria_10AJ100,12.53,0.59,3.51,0.79,13.95,4.92,0,2. 74,19.52,1.39,40.06,0
Syria_10AR15,13.94,0,3.65,1.05,11.55,5.8,1.41,3.35 ,17.86,1.41,39.86,0.12
Syria_11AH326,16.45,0.53,3.81,0.58,13.4,5.38,1.49, 1.68,16.11,1.13,39.02,0.42
Syria_11AJ100,15.26,1.94,3.61,0.42,15.74,5.4,2.21, 1.19,14.93,0.08,39.22,0
Syria_11AJ152,14.66,1.15,2.47,0.93,13.15,5.69,2.12 ,2.29,17.16,1.53,38.04,0.8
Syria_11AR16,14.76,0.86,1.92,1.87,10.11,0.93,2.18, 4.27,26.7,0.12,31.4,4.88
Syria_12AJ118,12.5,0.83,3.03,0.08,8.64,2.31,2.13,6 .44,28.29,0.74,32.25,2.76
Syria_12AL16,15.47,0.25,1.75,0,9.72,4.99,1.67,1.67 ,20.91,1.87,37.9,3.8
Syria_12AR16,12.14,0,4.6,0.4,12.53,2.78,1.1,1.51,2 1.09,0.15,43.68,0
Syria_13AH252,13.55,1.04,4.4,0,9.45,2.84,3.56,4.62 ,24.38,0,33.87,2.29
Syria_13AH326,11.23,0.24,3.83,0.76,12.31,0,1.48,7. 5,26.89,0.4,34.37,0.99
Syria_13AR15,11.49,0.27,4.08,0.06,8.72,0.28,1.33,4 .94,28.99,0,35.8,4.03
Syria_14R7,11.89,0.51,4.53,0.1,16.46,4.4,0,2.9,19. 34,0.96,37.67,1.24
Syria_15AJ100,9.65,0,5.94,0,9.79,2.98,2.1,3.87,26. 63,0.85,35.81,2.39
Syria_15AR16,10.51,0.45,3.3,0.54,10.67,0.08,2.65,3 .39,27.52,0.71,35.05,5.13
Syria_15R7,14.14,0,2.58,0,11.79,6.94,1.63,1.54,20. 95,1.81,38.54,0.06
Syria_16AH326,12.44,0,3.62,1.49,13.32,0.63,0.87,3. 62,24.87,0,37.65,1.51
Syria_16AJ100,13.72,0.39,2.61,0.4,9.07,0,1.64,6.18 ,30.53,1.03,31.83,2.59
Syria_16AJ177,14.03,0,5.28,0.73,7.45,3.92,3.59,5.0 5,27.02,0.52,28.03,4.38
Syria_16AR22,15.96,0,4.26,0.32,10.16,1.71,4.28,2.9 3,21.38,0.61,37.36,1.02
Syria_17AH326,9.77,0.48,4.26,0,9.43,3.67,2.56,6.76 ,27.24,0,33.15,2.69
Syria_17AJ119,12.59,0.45,3.93,0.81,8.47,0,0.8,4.77 ,31.14,0,34.42,2.62
Syria_17AJ181,12.47,0,3.51,0.82,11.88,4.41,2.5,3.6 9,21.03,0,36.87,2.81
Syria_18AJ152,13.15,0,3.33,0,7.34,5.12,1.8,4.21,29 .35,1.54,32.73,1.42
Syria_18AR15,12.47,0,2.46,1.76,6.43,2.48,1.5,4.1,3 0.79,0,33.7,4.31
Syria_19AL16,12.56,0.17,3.87,0.06,10.61,2.65,2.63, 4.57,27.15,0,34.13,1.6
Syria_19AR15,13.69,0,2.75,0,15.13,3.69,0.78,2.05,2 1.08,0,40.74,0.08
Syria_1AR18,11.81,1.57,4.22,0,7.35,3.13,3.76,5.06, 29.31,0,32.35,1.43
Syria_20AR15,13.76,1.75,1.93,0,9.18,3.49,2.52,5.22 ,25.54,0,33.06,3.57
Syria_21AR18,13.39,0,3.33,0.03,7.64,0.59,2.35,4.9, 29.67,0.46,35.02,2.61
Syria_22AR18,15.01,0.54,2.18,0.44,11.89,4.12,0,4.0 9,17.87,2.55,39.7,1.62
Syria_23AR15,12.4,0,4.47,0.94,6.18,1.9,0.92,5.62,3 0.26,0,35.06,2.24
Syria_24AR15,10.4,0,6.12,0,20.21,3.18,0.05,3.24,20 .71,0,35.32,0.78
Syria_24AR18,11.35,1.72,4.18,0,7.71,2.7,3.27,5.82, 30.66,0,30.74,1.85
Syria_26AH252,11.6,0.09,3.71,0,14.79,4.17,0,1.54,2 3.43,0,40.68,0
Syria_26AR15,11.72,0,3.8,0.86,7.67,1.93,1.21,5.58, 29.19,0.58,34.52,2.95
Syria_28AR15,13.54,0,3.28,0.33,9.65,1.97,2.98,4.46 ,24.5,0.19,35.34,3.76
Syria_29AH252,9.53,0,2.1,2.1,8.51,1.7,0.36,7.46,32 .15,0,32.98,3.1
Syria_2AR16,14.56,1.23,1.73,1.18,8.1,1.99,1.56,5.7 4,26.71,0.91,33.51,2.78
Syria_3AH326,12.79,0.65,5.61,0,8.42,1.81,2.02,5.15 ,25.9,0.72,33.94,2.97
Syria_3AJ112,16.44,0.25,3.33,0,14.99,3.57,0.49,1.2 ,18.62,0.34,39.96,0.81
Syria_3AJ116,12.69,0.58,4.02,1.39,10.54,4.03,0.39, 4.94,22.9,1.35,35.41,1.77
Syria_3AR16,10.51,0,2.66,0,15.64,2.77,0,1.93,20.85 ,0.95,44.69,0
Syria_4AJ120,14.4,1.11,2.36,1.44,10.52,5.93,0.98,2 .09,20.18,0,40.47,0.5
Syria_5AJ112,15.16,0,3.56,0,13.84,3.88,0.18,1.15,1 9.9,0.7,40.69,0.93
Syria_5AR16,16.23,1.64,2.75,0,11.58,6.68,2.11,1.68 ,19.02,0.64,37.65,0.01
Syria_5AS15,15.93,0.54,4.49,0.13,10.03,2.75,2.43,1 .02,22.42,0.6,39.1,0.57
Syria_6AH252,15.56,0,4.34,0.25,15.48,0.37,1.4,0.64 ,20.52,0,41.16,0.29
Syria_6AR15,15.48,0,3.95,1.95,12.8,2.73,1.68,4.25, 20.31,0,33.76,3.09
Syria_6AR16,10.85,2.01,4.41,0,7.09,0,1.09,5.47,33. 42,0,32.58,3.08
Syria_7AR15,12.8,0.23,5.21,1.2,8.89,1.55,1.92,4.97 ,25.81,0,35.63,1.78
Syria_8AH252,14.03,0.55,3.12,0,11.58,3.89,0.97,3.7 7,18.75,0,42.67,0.67
Syria_8AR15,13.88,0.29,3.31,0,10.82,2.81,2.28,3.68 ,26.64,1.66,31.56,3.07
Syria_9AR15,10.36,0,6.36,0,10.14,0.13,2.46,5.91,31 .08,0,32.41,1.14
Syria_Aut-11-12-01-02,12.46,0.23,4.12,2.55,14.67,3.31,0,2.51,19.85,0, 39.09,1.22
Syria_Aut-11-12-01-03,13.04,0,2.11,0.63,8.25,2.83,0.44,6.44,25.66,2.4 3,36.11,2.06
Syria_Aut-11-12-09-01,13.97,0,1.25,0,13.22,4.49,2.33,2.49,19.5,1.51,3 8.92,2.32
Syria_Aut-11-12-09-03,11.98,0.97,4.39,0.97,12.3,1.13,0.44,4.74,23.59, 0,36,3.47
Syria,13.11,0.44,3.60,0.54,11.04,2.94,1.59,3.86,24 .08,0.56,36.33,1.87
Distance to: Syria
4.33828307 Palestinian
4.57687666 Syrian_C
6.42604077 Jordanians
6.96860101 Syrian_A
7.01437809 Lebanese_Muslim
7.73129355 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.75766718 Iran_Arab
7.86952349 Syrian_B
9.34295992 Syria_SW_Christian
9.43807713 Palestinian_Christian
9.81329201 Lebanese_Christian
10.15716988 Nusayri_Turkey
10.76461332 Iraqi_Jew
11.22578728 Kurdish_Jew
11.25934279 Iranian_Jew
11.59567161 Mandean
13.21041634 Turkmen_Iraq
13.36608394 Assyrian_South
13.43257518 Egyptian
13.64383011 Assyrian_West
13.77685378 Azeri_Jew
13.90037050 Turk_Cyprus
14.05449750 Assyrian_North
14.25801178 Turk_Southeast
14.90687090 Greek_Cypriot
Syria,13.11,0.44,3.60,0.54,11.04,2.94,1.59,3.86,24 .08,0.56,36.33,1.87
Distance to: Syria
4.33828307 Palestinian
4.57687666 Syrian_C
6.42604077 Jordanians
6.96860101 Syrian_A
7.01437809 Lebanese_Muslim
7.73129355 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.75766718 Iran_Arab
7.86952349 Syrian_B
9.34295992 Syria_SW_Christian
9.43807713 Palestinian_Christian
9.81329201 Lebanese_Christian
10.15716988 Nusayri_Turkey
10.76461332 Iraqi_Jew
11.22578728 Kurdish_Jew
11.25934279 Iranian_Jew
11.59567161 Mandean
13.21041634 Turkmen_Iraq
13.36608394 Assyrian_South
13.43257518 Egyptian
13.64383011 Assyrian_West
13.77685378 Azeri_Jew
13.90037050 Turk_Cyprus
14.05449750 Assyrian_North
14.25801178 Turk_Southeast
14.90687090 Greek_Cypriot
Thank you! The Syrian avgs don't appear to be particularly close to it which may mean they're bogus.
Here they are completely absent (I didn't remove anything)!
Distance: 1.0364% / 1.03638530
Target: Syria | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.8 Palestinian
28.0 Iran_Arab
22.5 Jordanians
7.7 Turk_Southeast
4.0 Lebanese_Muslim
Distance: 1.3645% / 1.36448480
Target: Syria | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.1 Palestinian
28.3 Iran_Arab
7.6 Iraqi_Baghdad
I will have those references replaced with this (titled "Syrian_Arab").
By the way, the original Dodecad spreadsheet is a joke, a lot of those rare exotic pops are based on 1-2 samples only! We need Bangladeshi as it's based on ONE GUY only!
I am sending Lukasz a list of all pops with a sample size below 5. That junk needs to be taken out.
Dr_Maul
12-19-2020, 04:03 PM
I couldn't find the K12b East Asian thread so take this Hui from NE China
N-L665
Gedrosia 1.26 Pct
Siberian 6.78 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 26.6 Pct
Atlantic_Med -
North_European -
South_Asian 0.22 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.31 Pct
East_Asian 63.04 Pct
Caucasus 1.79 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance: 0.6125% / 0.61251895
Target: Tianjin | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.8 Han_north
7.0 Mongol
4.7 Zhuang
2.3 Naxi
2.2 Hemshin
Distance: 0.3911% / 0.39111791
Target: Tianjin
26.2 Korean
15.9 Tujia
12.5 Han_north
10.6 Japanese
8.0 She
7.7 Miaozu
5.0 Hezhen
4.8 Daur
2.6 Oroqen
2.5 Iran_Mazandaran
2.3 Dai
0.9 Georgian_Turkey
0.8 Zhuang
0.2 Georgian_Adjara
Iraqi Turkmen:
Gedrosian: 21.99
Siberian: 3.33
Northwest_African: 0.40
Southeast_Asian: 0.71
Atlantic_Med: 9.03
North_European: 6.37
South_Asian: 2.72
East_African: 1.21
Southwest_Asian: 15.66
East_Asian: 2.08
Caucasus: 36.47
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Iraqi_Turkmen
3.81565198 Turkmen_Iraq
4.95122207 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.09987255 Kurd_Sorani
5.21442231 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.38088283 Azerbaijani
5.71615255 Turk_Southeast
5.84901701 Yazidi
6.66586078 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.93821303 Zaza
7.44361471 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.99421041 Lur_Iran
8.12739196 Iranian_Fars
8.33825521 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.47429681 Iranian
9.70467413 Kurd_KAZ
9.75392741 Turk_Central_East
9.81012232 Syrian_B
9.89100602 Turk_South
10.71384618 Iran_Arab
11.14997758 Turk_Central_West
11.15947131 Turk_East
11.35591916 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.35791354 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.47564813 Mandean
11.49475968 Iran_Khorasan
Distance: 1.1828% / 1.18283089
Target: Iraqi_Turkmen | ADC: 0.5x RC
63.0 Turkmen_Iraq
17.8 Turk_Southeast
16.5 Iranian_Fars
2.7 Yukagir
Kaazi
12-19-2020, 05:07 PM
By the way, the original Dodecad spreadsheet is a joke, a lot of those rare exotic pops are based on 1-2 samples only! We need Bangladeshi as it's based on ONE GUY only!
I am sending Lukasz a list of all pops with a sample size below 5. That junk needs to be taken out.
Take out the Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal/Brahmin-Uttaranchal as well from all possible calculators lol. It's based on 1 outlier and their admixture is very uncertain at the moment to figure out.
Based on the new data. Muslim = Shia + Sunni, Christian = Maronite + Orthodox
Lebanese_Muslim,12.80,0.40,4.36,0.39,13.11,3.06,1. 30,3.46,20.70,0.36,38.62,1.45
Lebanese_Christian,11.27,0.10,3.78,0.09,15.50,1.66 ,0.21,0.84,22.71,0.11,43.72,0.02
I did the average for the Syrian samples. Excluded a couple that clearly are Christians, some Kurds, one that scored like Eastern Anatolian Turks and two who were fully or partly Egyptian. The remaining Syrians left are still very heterogeneous, as an example the SW Asian scores range from 15% to 31% with a lot of them over 25% and an equal amount around 20% or lower.
I suspect they have included Palestinians or maybe even some semi-Nomadic Bedouins in this average, as it's not much Eastern shifted in comparison to the Lebanese Muslims as one would expect. A lot of them seem indistuingshable from Palestinians which to me is odd, but they might be genuine Syrians afterall.
Syrian_Muslim,13.25,0.44,3.56,0.55,11.1,2.94,1.57, 3.71,23.82,0.57,36.68,1.81
So it's somewhat different from what I did. Fuck. I'm tired of this, can't handle everything on my own. Why did you exclude the supposed Turks? They must be Syrian too. I excluded only Kurds, Assyrians and Leb Christian-like ones.
Mine:
Syrian_Arab,13.11,0.44,3.60,0.54,11.04,2.94,1.59,3 .86,24.08,0.56,36.33,1.87
Yours:
Syrian_Muslim,13.25,0.44,3.56,0.55,11.1,2.94,1.57, 3.71,23.82,0.57,36.68,1.81
Virtually identical.
So it's somewhat different from what I did. Fuck. I'm tired of this, can't handle everything on my own. Why did you exclude the supposed Turks? They must be Syrian too. I excluded only Kurds, Assyrians and Leb Christian-like ones.
Mine:
Syrian_Arab,13.11,0.44,3.60,0.54,11.04,2.94,1.59,3 .86,24.08,0.56,36.33,1.87
Yours:
Syrian_Muslim,13.25,0.44,3.56,0.55,11.1,2.94,1.57, 3.71,23.82,0.57,36.68,1.81
Virtually identical.
I was busy these days man lol...
I don't think they sampled just Syrian Arabs or they sampled from more Bedouin-heavy areas in Syria instead of Damascus, Aleppo and other larger cities.
Anyways I'm gonna do the Iraqi Arabs too but like in Syria it might be more Bedouin shifted than the real average.
Mejgusu
12-19-2020, 07:01 PM
A Karachay:
Gedrosia: 15.24 Pct
Siberian: 3.39 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 2.29 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 4.36 Pct
North_European: 18.01 Pct
South_Asian: 1.07 Pct
East_African: 1.98 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 4.83 Pct
East_Asian: 4.65 Pct
Caucasus: 44.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -
Distance to: Karachay
4.53333211 Balkar
4.69443287 Karachay
6.35596570 Kumyks
6.61690260 Ossetian
6.71917406 Circassian
8.16706190 Ingush
9.18584781 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
9.37729705 Chechen
11.31628473 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.05165964 Qumuq
13.75658388 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
14.30589739 Abkhazian
14.39248068 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.42915451 Turk_Central_East
14.49937930 Turk_South
14.86599475 Lak2
14.91855556 Turk_West_BlackSea
14.94285448 Nogai
15.13461265 Azerbaijani
15.29597986 Turk_Central_West
15.29974510 Turk_East
15.50669855 Lezgin
15.67033184 Udi_Azerbaijan
15.85994010 Turk_Southwest
15.86112859 Azerbaijani_Iran
Distance: 2.8850% / 2.88497411
Target: Karachay | ADC: 0.5x RC
92.5 Balkar
3.5 Coptic
1.8 Ethiopian
1.3 Garo
0.9 Zhuang
I don't think they sampled just Syrian Arabs or they sampled from more Bedouin-heavy areas in Syria instead of Damascus, Aleppo and other larger cities.
Anyways I'm gonna do the Iraqi Arabs too but like in Syria it might be more Bedouin shifted than the real average.
The Muslims in Syria are either Arabs or Kurds. Anyway, Syrian_Muslim is okay too. When you do Iraq, we'll submit the Lebs, Jordanians, Syrian and Iraqi.
The Muslims in Syria are either Arabs or Kurds. Anyway, Syrian_Muslim is okay too. When you do Iraq, we'll submit the Lebs, Jordanians, Syrian and Iraqi.
Here's the Iraqi average, exluding Assyrians/Mandeans and Kurds. Also like you mentioned I exluded two European or half European outliers.
This one is significantly more Arab shifted than the Baghdadi average I made out of the Iraqi project samples.
Iraqi_Arab,16.56,0.45,2.95,0.27,8.15,3,3.31,3.67,2 5.43,0.78,33.56,1.82
Here's the Iraqi average, exluding Assyrians/Mandeans and Kurds. Also like you mentioned I exluded two European or half European outliers.
This one is significantly more Arab shifted than the Baghdadi average I made out of the Iraqi project samples.
Iraqi_Arab,16.56,0.45,2.95,0.27,8.15,3,3.31,3.67,2 5.43,0.78,33.56,1.82
Looks like Iranian Arabs are the same as Iraqis
Distance to: Iraqi_Arab
3.59956942 Iran_Arab
7.15288753 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.46301221 Palestinian
9.55482601 Syrian_C
10.20746296 Jordanians
10.89069787 Syrian_B
11.90997901 Lebanese_Muslim
12.08127063 Syrian_A
12.52690305 Mandean
12.53447247 Turkmen_Iraq
12.74752917 Iranian_Jew
13.06357531 Iraqi_Jew
13.34807102 Kurdish_Jew
14.09305148 Kurd_Sorani
14.29671990 Syria_SW_Christian
14.49234281 Palestinian_Christian
14.73541991 Lebanese_Christian
14.87911960 Nusayri_Turkey
15.16834862 Turk_Southeast
15.75660814 Assyrian_South
15.76465667 Azeri_Jew
16.27394851 Kurd_Kurmanji
16.28720357 Assyrian_North
16.28911293 Assyrian_West
16.30501322 Egyptian
Here's the Iraqi average, exluding Assyrians/Mandeans and Kurds. Also like you mentioned I exluded two European or half European outliers.
This one is significantly more Arab shifted than the Baghdadi average I made out of the Iraqi project samples.
Iraqi_Arab,16.56,0.45,2.95,0.27,8.15,3,3.31,3.67,2 5.43,0.78,33.56,1.82
Good. Now the Arabs are finished, I can post them in the Vahaduo thread. Are we replacing your Lebanese? I'd say let's go with this new data, your Lebanese Christian is almost identical to the new one anyway.
Good. Now the Arabs are finished, I can post them in the Vahaduo thread. Are we replacing your Lebanese? I'd say let's go with this new data, your Lebanese Christian is almost identical to the new one anyway.
Yes replace my Lebanese. Considering my old one is a bit more SW Asians shifted it's possible I had included some Lebanese who were part Syrian, Jordanian or Palestinian Christian since really no one from the Middle East has gedcoms/wikitrees.
Add the Iraqi Arab for now, I'll do a better Iraqi average soon. Don't add the Assyrian average from this paper we don't know for sure if all of them are Assyrian unlike the kits I used for my averages. And definitely remove the old Lebanese, Syrian and Jordanian Arab averages for these new ones IMO.
Local Sunni Turk from Kars:
Gedrosian: 20.84
Siberian: 0.69
Northwest_African: 0.77
Southeast_Asian: 0.06
Atlantic_Med: 7.39
North_European: 7.61
South_Asian: 0.31
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.77
East_Asian: 2.20
Caucasus: 47.37
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Kars_Sunni
3.35944936 Udi_Azerbaijan
4.90679121 Turk_East
6.24568651 Armenian_East
6.81826958 Zaza
7.06295264 Turk_Ahiska
7.89741097 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.33465656 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.68665643 Armenian_West
8.78356989 Kurd_KAZ
8.94819535 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.11229938 Azeri_Jew
9.12875676 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.47227533 Assyrian_North
9.85565320 Azerbaijani
10.01392530 Assyrian_South
10.03341916 Georgian
10.09556338 Assyrian_West
10.18288270 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.29870866 Turkmen_Iraq
10.81088803 Kurd_Sorani
10.87788582 Turk_Southeast
10.88137859 Yazidi
10.95993157 Turk_Central_East
11.02107527 Hemshin
11.56997839 Greek_Pontus
Fedora
12-20-2020, 06:47 PM
Local Sunni Turk from Kars:
Gedrosian: 20.84
Siberian: 0.69
Northwest_African: 0.77
Southeast_Asian: 0.06
Atlantic_Med: 7.39
North_European: 7.61
South_Asian: 0.31
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.77
East_Asian: 2.20
Caucasus: 47.37
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Kars_Sunni
3.35944936 Udi_Azerbaijan
4.90679121 Turk_East
6.24568651 Armenian_East
6.81826958 Zaza
7.06295264 Turk_Ahiska
7.89741097 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.33465656 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.68665643 Armenian_West
8.78356989 Kurd_KAZ
8.94819535 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.11229938 Azeri_Jew
9.12875676 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.47227533 Assyrian_North
9.85565320 Azerbaijani
10.01392530 Assyrian_South
10.03341916 Georgian
10.09556338 Assyrian_West
10.18288270 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.29870866 Turkmen_Iraq
10.81088803 Kurd_Sorani
10.87788582 Turk_Southeast
10.88137859 Yazidi
10.95993157 Turk_Central_East
11.02107527 Hemshin
11.56997839 Greek_Pontus
What about Mixed mode? Different from the Shia and the one Alevi Turk from Kars who made a thread a while ago.
What about Mixed mode? Different from the Shia and the one Alevi Turk from Kars who made a thread a while ago.
Not really saying much that's why I left it out:
Distance: 0.9255% / 0.92546700
Target: Kars_Sunni | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.6 Turk_Ahiska
31.5 Azeri_Jew
20.1 Kurd_KAZ
13.6 Kumyks
1.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
1.4 Japanese
Shias are all Azeri right? They score close to other Azerbaijanis. "Azerbaijani_Turkey" is the reference for them. Don't know about the Alevi ones.
Fedora
12-20-2020, 06:58 PM
Not really saying much that's why I left it out:
Distance: 0.9255% / 0.92546700
Target: Kars_Sunni | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.6 Turk_Ahiska
31.5 Azeri_Jew
20.1 Kurd_KAZ
13.6 Kumyks
1.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
1.4 Japanese
Shias are all Azeri right? They score close to other Azerbaijanis. "Azerbaijani_Turkey" is tthe reference for them. Don't know about the Alevi ones.
This is an Alevi from Kars:
Gedrosian: 18.32
Siberian: 2.25
Northwest_African:0
Southeast_Asian: 0
Atlantic_Med: 10,29
North_European: 8.22
South_Asian: 3.9
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.13
East_Asian: 3.09
Caucasus: 41,83
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Well, the Shia ones are what they call "Yerazli" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeraz
Mejgusu
12-20-2020, 07:18 PM
Probably Zaza? from Tunceli?, very "steppe"-shifted, one of the highest NE among Zazas/Kurds:
Gedrosian: 25.18 Pct
Siberian: -
Northwest_African: 2.35 Pct
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 6.87 Pct
North_European: 10.32 Pct
South_Asian: 2.53 Pct
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 10.03 Pct
East_Asian: 1.77 Pct
Caucasus: 40.93 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -
Distance to: Kurd?/zaza?
4.58940083 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.86478474 Zaza
5.97264598 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.01099825 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.56762514 Yazidi
7.00701077 Kurd_KAZ
7.06628615 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.07754195 Azerbaijani
7.24249957 Iranian
7.58233473 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.90194913 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.00814585 Kurd_Sorani
8.82878814 Lur_Iran
9.40440854 Turkmen_Iraq
9.74241243 Iranian_Fars
9.87668973 Iran_Mazandaran
10.33140358 Turk_Southeast
10.39399346 Turk_East
10.69081381 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
11.35632863 Iran_Khorasan
11.89060974 Ingush
12.07605896 Turk_Central_East
13.10540728 Turk_South
13.66687601 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.96993200 Lezgin
Distance: 1.9423% / 1.94232087
Target: Kurd?/zaza? | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.5 Talysh_Azerbaijan
18.2 Lezgin
9.0 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.3 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
3.0 Algerian
Armenians. Two of them have slightly elevated North European
Gedrosia 17.3 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.35 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 12.34 Pct
North_European 7.25 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 13.25 Pct
East_Asian 0.71 Pct
Caucasus 47.8 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Natalie
3.00061660 Armenian_East
3.79311218 Turk_East
5.20888664 Armenian_West
5.69719229 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.73345977 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.77469614 Assyrian_West
7.91665965 Assyrian_North
8.10401752 Azeri_Jew
8.21336107 Greek_Pontus
8.23951455 Assyrian_South
Distance: 0.9058% / 0.90581082
Target: Natalie | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.5 Armenian_East
21.5 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.0 Italian_Calabria
Gedrosia 16.04 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.6 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.48 Pct
Atlantic_Med 9.51 Pct
North_European 7.51 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 13.18 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 51.66 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Sargis
3.09688553 Armenian_East
4.79305748 Turk_East_Black_Sea
5.64659189 Turk_Ahiska
5.74714712 Greek_Pontus
6.32060124 Hemshin
6.33611079 Armenian_West
6.94910786 Turk_East
7.24227174 Laz
7.95342693 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.69177772 Georgian
Distance: 1.2258% / 1.22584162
Target: Sargis | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.0 Armenian_East
25.3 Georgian_Gurian
11.7 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.4 Coptic
0.6 Lithuanian
Distance: 2.1202% / 2.12016430
Target: Sargis | ADC: 0.5x RC
77.2 Armenian_East
13.2 Georgian_Gurian
9.6 Turk_East_Black_Sea
J-M267
J1a2
Gedrosia 18.67 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.52 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.75 Pct
North_European 5.31 Pct
South_Asian 0.18 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 15.5 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 48.03 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Arshavir
3.33459143 Armenian_East
3.38595629 Armenian_West
4.75509201 Assyrian_North
4.83223551 Azeri_Jew
4.99066128 Assyrian_West
5.25423639 Assyrian_South
5.32673446 Turk_East
6.04415420 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.04763319 Iranian_Jew
8.24254208 Kurdish_Jew
Distance: 0.8300% / 0.82998018
Target: Arshavir | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.1 Assyrian_West
30.0 Armenian_East
27.3 Udi_Azerbaijan
3.6 Armenian_West
I made an avg out of all Azerbaijanis from Karabakh (n=12):
Azerbaijani_Karabakh,21.76,2.01,0.72,0.51,8.53,8.2 8,2.76,0.31,12.69,2.23,40.00,0.18
Gedrosian: 21.76
Siberian: 2.01
Northwest_African: 0.72
Southeast_Asian: 0.51
Atlantic_Med: 8.53
North_European: 8.28
South_Asian: 2.76
East_African 0.31
Southwest_Asian: 12.69
East_Asian: 2.23
Caucasian: 40.00
Sub_Saharan: 0.18
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Karabakh
1.60521027 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.64510869 Azerbaijani
2.71400074 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.50937316 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.85386819 Zaza
5.11663952 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.18423572 Turk_Southeast
5.38871970 Turkmen_Iraq
5.51567766 Yazidi
5.65202619 Kurd_Sorani
6.99415470 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.44094752 Turk_East
7.72173556 Kurd_KAZ
7.78831176 Turk_Central_East
8.22557597 Lur_Iran
8.23581204 Iranian
8.96933108 Turk_South
9.44301859 Iranian_Fars
9.66769362 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.18668248 Turk_Central_West
10.22568824 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.69785960 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.17000448 Syrian_B
11.70192292 Iran_Khorasan
11.92564883 Azeri_Jew
Distance: 0.4982% / 0.49816586
Target: Azerbaijani_Karabakh | ADC: 0.5x RC
35.6 Azerbaijani
31.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
27.9 Zaza
4.3 Turk_East
1.2 Udi_Azerbaijan
Distance: 1.0336% / 1.03364259
Target: Azerbaijani_Karabakh | ADC: 1x RC
75.1 Azerbaijani_Iran
24.9 Zaza
I made an avg out of all Azerbaijanis from Karabakh (n=12):
Great. Can be added or will it be redundant in the spreadsheet?
Great. Can be added or will it be redundant in the spreadsheet?
I don't think it's necessary to add.
I don't think it's necessary to add.
Alright. Now it's time for the Abşeron peninsula or more specifically Abşeron rayon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absheron_District) :cool:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Azerbaijan_map_sumqayit.png
Alright. Now it's time for the Abşeron peninsula or more specifically Abşeron rayon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absheron_District) :cool:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Azerbaijan_map_sumqayit.png
Only have 6 results from there:
Azerbaijani_Absheron,21.07,2.37,1.47,0.44,7.04,9.6 5,1.76,0.29,11.28,2.87,41.63,0.08
Gedrosian: 21.07
Siberian: 2.37
Northwest_African: 1.47
Southeast_Asian: 0.44
Atlantic_Med: 7.04
North_European: 9.65
South_Asian: 1.76
East_African 0.29
Southwest_Asian: 11.28
East_Asian: 2.87
Caucasian: 41.63
Sub_Saharan: 0.08
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Absheron
3.30446667 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.36676402 Azerbaijani_Karabakh
3.67687367 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.24538573 Azerbaijani
5.49881805 Zaza
5.82565876 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.02325493 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.31251931 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.68466903 Turk_Southeast
6.91116488 Turk_East
7.86927570 Turk_Central_East
7.89991139 Yazidi
8.01881537 Turkmen_Iraq
8.18931621 Kurd_Sorani
8.50846050 Kurd_KAZ
8.96001674 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.03607216 Turk_South
9.22118214 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.45921244 Iranian
10.24597482 Lur_Iran
10.48133579 Turk_Central_West
11.33693080 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
11.46430984 Armenian_East
11.58179174 Iranian_Fars
12.01442883 Ingush
Distance: 0.7756% / 0.77562754
Target: Azerbaijani_Absheron | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.9 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.0 Kumyks
8.2 Abkhazian
5.9 Udi_Azerbaijan
3.0 Coptic
Distance: 1.2048% / 1.20480923
Target: Azerbaijani_Absheron | ADC: 0.5x RC
65.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
19.4 Udi_Azerbaijan
15.0 Kumyks
Made some more averages for Republic Azerbaijanis:
Southeast (Lenkeran/Masalli, non-Talysh) n=4:
Gedrosian: 21.35
Siberian: 2.81
Northwest_African: 1.18
Southeast_Asian: 0.51
Atlantic_Med: 9.98
North_European: 8.03
South_Asian: 2.91
East_African 0.04
Southwest_Asian: 12.39
East_Asian: 2.60
Caucasian: 38.13
Sub_Saharan: 0.06
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Southeast
2.07766696 Azerbaijani
2.23901764 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.01136182 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.96186825 Turk_Southeast
4.71832597 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.81680325 Zaza
5.86112617 Turkmen_Iraq
6.20841365 Yazidi
6.62391878 Kurd_Sorani
6.96886648 Turk_Central_East
7.13569198 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.58092343 Turk_South
8.68398526 Turk_East
8.72809258 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.75886979 Turk_Central_West
8.95721497 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.19002720 Lur_Iran
9.50340465 Iranian
9.54862817 Iranian_Fars
9.62720624 Kurd_KAZ
10.21524351 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.44207355 Syrian_B
11.05302221 Iran_Khorasan
11.16337315 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.22568929 Turk_Southwest
Distance: 0.5997% / 0.59966116
Target: Azerbaijani_Southeast | ADC: 0.25x RC
72.7 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.0 Turk_Southeast
5.1 Azerbaijani
3.3 Sardinian
2.7 Parsi_India
Distance: 1.8578% / 1.85778242
Target: Azerbaijani_Southeast | ADC: 1x RC
57.3 Azerbaijani
42.7 Azerbaijani_Iran
North Azerbaijan (bordering Dagestan) n=7:
Gedrosian: 21.77
Siberian: 2.16
Northwest_African: 0.27
Southeast_Asian: 0.63
Atlantic_Med: 6.73
North_European: 13.00
South_Asian: 1.17
East_African 0.15
Southwest_Asian: 10.70
East_Asian: 2.57
Caucasian: 40.72
Sub_Saharan: 0.07
Distance to: Azerbaijani_North
5.66033568 Azerbaijani
5.68364320 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.83732816 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
5.88298394 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.67163607 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.70425207 Zaza
7.95960426 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.19094012 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
8.21000609 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.36134559 Turk_Southeast
9.32602809 Turk_Central_East
9.38546216 Turk_East
9.49111690 Yazidi
9.49953683 Ingush
9.92159765 Turk_South
9.97399619 Kurd_KAZ
9.99985000 Kurd_Sorani
10.22187361 Turkmen_Iraq
10.43837631 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.63197065 Iranian
10.92650905 Karachay
11.12805913 Turk_Central_West
11.37060245 Circassian
11.51478180 Chechen
11.54390748 Balkar
Distance: 0.7601% / 0.76014638
Target: Azerbaijani_North | ADC: 0.25x RC
32.5 Azerbaijani
31.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.7 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
9.9 Kumyks
3.5 Kuwait2
Distance: 1.7659% / 1.76593798
Target: Azerbaijani_North | ADC: 0.5x RC
46.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
39.1 Azerbaijani
14.7 Udi_Azerbaijan
Azerbaijani North-west (Qazax/Aghstafa) n=8:
Gedrosian: 20.74
Siberian: 3.35
Northwest_African: 1.06
Southeast_Asian: 0.83
Atlantic_Med: 9.79
North_European: 8.43
South_Asian: 1.38
East_African 0.29
Southwest_Asian: 11.09
East_Asian: 5.25
Caucasian: 37.73
Sub_Saharan: 0.07
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Northwest
2.87059227 Azerbaijani
3.45446088 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.86688505 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.42583325 Turk_Southeast
6.16173677 Turk_South
6.38920183 Turk_Central_East
7.11806153 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.40380983 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.77724887 Turk_Central_West
7.96459666 Turkmen_Iraq
8.08899252 Zaza
8.57856631 Yazidi
8.94517188 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.26475580 Kurd_Sorani
9.59849988 Turk_East
9.65874215 Turk_Southwest
10.07051637 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.30769130 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.27015971 Iranian
11.33549293 Lur_Iran
11.36705327 Iran_Khorasan
11.40521372 Kurd_KAZ
11.43364771 Iranian_Fars
11.65627299 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.71895473 Syrian_B
Distance: 1.2108% / 1.21077639
Target: Azerbaijani_Northwest | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.8 Azerbaijani_Turkey
30.6 Yazidi
18.5 Turk_Southwest
3.1 Xibo
Distance: 1.8876% / 1.88755259
Target: Azerbaijani_Northwest | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.0 Azerbaijani
37.3 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.3 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.3 Turkmen_Iran
2.1 Dungan
@Aren, do we have any Druze (non-academic or recent post-Gedmatch academic)? They aren't unimportant, Syria, Israel and Lebanon have hundreds of thousands of native Druze.
@Aren, do we have any Druze (non-academic or recent post-Gedmatch academic)? They aren't unimportant, Syria, Israel and Lebanon have hundreds of thousands of native Druze.
Yes I have from both Syria and Lebanon.
Azerbaijanis from Tabriz n=16:
Gedrosian: 21.67
Siberian: 2.80
Northwest_African: 1.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.69
Atlantic_Med: 8.25
North_European: 7.83
South_Asian: 2.88
East_African: 0.41
Southwest_Asian: 12.55
East_Asian: 2.92
Caucasus: 38.93
Sub_Saharan: 0.06
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Tabriz
0.67394362 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.13679667 Azerbaijani
2.73815631 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.18447129 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.83073493 Turk_Southeast
5.04789065 Zaza
5.73386432 Yazidi
5.83084042 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.90602235 Kurd_Sorani
7.77461896 Turk_Central_East
8.27960144 Lur_Iran
8.37841274 Turk_South
8.43091336 Iranian
8.43444723 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.44702906 Kurd_KAZ
8.49017079 Turk_East
8.96701177 Iranian_Fars
9.27632470 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.90735081 Turk_Central_West
10.13620244 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.81566919 Iran_Khorasan
11.13164408 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.33198686 Turk_West_BlackSea
12.35887131 Turk_Southwest
12.71844330 Azeri_Jew
Distance: 0.4305% / 0.43049786
Target: Azerbaijani_Tabriz | ADC: 0.5x RC
91.7 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.0 Turk_Southeast
3.3 Iraqi_Baghdad
Azerbaijanis from Ardabil + Araz (border region) n=5:
Gedrosian: 21.10
Siberian: 3.09
Northwest_African: 0.72
Southeast_Asian: 0.34
Atlantic_Med: 7.45
North_European: 9.15
South_Asian: 2.32
East_African: 0.41
Southwest_Asian: 11.25
East_Asian: 4.03
Caucasus: 39.88
Sub_Saharan: 0.25
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Ardabil_Araz
2.23564308 Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.48491449 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.55250857 Azerbaijani
5.52387545 Turk_Southeast
6.12026143 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.27592224 Zaza
6.48707176 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.34541353 Turk_Central_East
7.72339304 Yazidi
7.80006410 Turk_South
8.05026087 Kurd_Sorani
8.20866006 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.23422127 Turk_East
8.32478228 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.33139325 Kurd_KAZ
9.48461386 Iranian
9.56193495 Turk_Central_West
9.59603564 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.05500870 Lur_Iran
10.70319111 Iranian_Fars
11.27231564 Iran_Khorasan
11.74163958 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.80651939 Turk_Southwest
12.10928569 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
12.12574121 Iraqi_Baghdad
Distance: 0.8007% / 0.80072281
Target: Azerbaijani_Ardabil_Araz | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
22.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.7 Kumyks
1.1 Daur
Distance: 1.9068% / 1.90684228
Target: Azerbaijani_Ardabil_Araz | ADC: 1x RC
57.7 Azerbaijani_Turkey
42.3 Azerbaijani_Iran
Here are all regional averages:
Azerbaijani_Tabriz(Iran),21.67,2.80,1.00,0.69,8.25 ,7.83,2.88,0.41,12.55,2.92,38.93,0.06
Azerbaijani_Ardabil_Araz(Iran),21.10,3.09,0.72,0.3 4,7.45,9.15,2.32,0.41,11.25,4.03,39.88,0.25
Azerbaijani_Karabakh(AzRep),21.76,2.01,0.72,0.51,8 .53,8.28,2.76,0.31,12.69,2.23,40.00,0.18
Azerbaijani_Absheron(AzRep),21.07,2.37,1.47,0.44,7 .04,9.65,1.76,0.29,11.28,2.87,41.63,0.08
Azerbaijani_Southeast(AzRep),21.35,2.81,1.18,0.51, 9.98,8.03,2.91,0.04,12.39,2.60,38.13,0.06
Azerbaijani_North(AzRep),21.77,2.16,0.27,0.63,6.73 ,13.00,1.17,0.15,10.70,2.57,40.72,0.07
Azerbaijani_Northwest(AzRep),20.74,3.35,1.06,0.83, 9.79,8.43,1.38,0.29,11.09,5.25,37.73,0.07
Tabriz is almost identical to Azerbaijani_Iran. Maybe it's mostly Tabriz too.
Tabriz is almost identical to Azerbaijani_Iran. Maybe it's mostly Tabriz too.
Yes Azerbaijani_Iran is actually only Tabriz. I was informed the samples that were used in that study were all from Tabriz. I added a couple of other Tabriz results and made a new average.
Thambi
12-22-2020, 11:58 PM
Bangladeshi average for Dodecad k12b
Bangladeshi,26.88,1.64,0.14,7.94,0.79,5.30,48.12,0 .10,0.51,6.02,2.49,0.07
Bangladeshi average for Dodecad k12b
Bangladeshi,26.88,1.64,0.14,7.94,0.79,5.30,48.12,0 .10,0.51,6.02,2.49,0.07
I've added three more academic samples from my PM
Bangladeshi,27,1.7,0.11,7.98,0.88,5.04,48.36,0.08, 0.5,6.15,2.13,0.07
Turk from Feke (Adana):
Gedrosian: 15.65
Siberian: 10.05
Northwest_African: 1.25
Southeast_Asian: 3.00
Atlantic_Med: 10.21
North_European: 8.84
South_Asian: 1.76
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 9.69
East_Asian: 6.16
Caucasian: 33.39
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Turk_Feke
7.16857726 Turk_South
7.17828670 Turk_Southwest
8.21922746 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.51207378 Turk_Northwest
8.89148469 Turk_Central_West
9.55965481 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.23189132 Turk_Central_East
10.43425608 Turk_Southeast
11.40664718 Azerbaijani
11.68296195 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.43086079 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.82766152 Turkmen_Iran
12.82766152 Turkmen_Iran
15.57652079 Iran_Khorasan
15.88741326 Kurd_Kurmanji
16.08983841 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
16.29042971 Turk_East
16.85043323 Zaza
16.89810936 Yazidi
17.11585814 Kurd_Sorani
17.28941584 Iraqi_Baghdad
17.47174862 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
17.48804735 Karachay
17.50689007 Talysh_Azerbaijan
17.89651921 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Distance: 1.4204% / 1.42035037
Target: Turk_Feke | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.1 Turk_South
9.4 Turkmen_Iran
5.8 Yakut
2.7 Malay_Singapore
Kaspias
12-23-2020, 08:56 AM
Turk from Feke (Adana):
Gedrosian: 15.65
Siberian: 10.05
Northwest_African: 1.25
Southeast_Asian: 3.00
Atlantic_Med: 10.21
North_European: 8.84
South_Asian: 1.76
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 9.69
East_Asian: 6.16
Caucasian: 33.39
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Turk_Feke
7.16857726 Turk_South
7.17828670 Turk_Southwest
8.21922746 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.51207378 Turk_Northwest
8.89148469 Turk_Central_West
9.55965481 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.23189132 Turk_Central_East
10.43425608 Turk_Southeast
11.40664718 Azerbaijani
11.68296195 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.43086079 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.82766152 Turkmen_Iran
12.82766152 Turkmen_Iran
15.57652079 Iran_Khorasan
15.88741326 Kurd_Kurmanji
16.08983841 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
16.29042971 Turk_East
16.85043323 Zaza
16.89810936 Yazidi
17.11585814 Kurd_Sorani
17.28941584 Iraqi_Baghdad
17.47174862 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
17.48804735 Karachay
17.50689007 Talysh_Azerbaijan
17.89651921 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Distance: 1.4204% / 1.42035037
Target: Turk_Feke | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.1 Turk_South
9.4 Turkmen_Iran
5.8 Yakut
2.7 Malay_Singapore
[1,] "31.1% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA93 + 68.9% Armenian_West" "4.2516"
[2,] "38.4% Nogai_Astrakhan + 61.6% Armenian_West" "4.2913"
[3,] "54.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan + 45.1% Greek_Cappadocia" "4.5082"
[4,] "59.2% Turkmen_Uzbekistan + 40.8% Greek_Pontus" "4.7176"
[5,] "35.6% Karakhanid_DA204 + 64.4% Armenian_West" "4.7205"
[6,] "30.8% Kipchak_DA23 + 69.2% Armenian_West" "4.7535"
[7,] "46.6% Turkmen_Afghanistan + 53.4% Armenian_West" "4.7539"
[8,] "38% Nogai_Astrakhan + 62% Assyrian_North" "4.7579"
[9,] "38.4% Karluk_DA222 + 61.6% Greek_Cappadocia" "4.7969"
[10,] "38% Nogai_Astrakhan + 62% Assyrian_West" "4.8033"
[11,] "37.8% Nogai_Astrakhan + 62.2% Assyrian_South" "4.8775"
[12,] "38.9% Karluk_DA222 + 61.1% Armenian_West" "4.9381"
[13,] "46.2% Turkmen_Afghanistan + 53.8% Assyrian_West" "4.9413"
[14,] "30.7% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA93 + 69.3% Assyrian_West" "5.0169"
[15,] "37.2% Nogai_Astrakhan + 62.8% Armenian_East" "5.0369"
[16,] "55.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan + 44.4% Armenian_West" "5.0975"
[17,] "35.2% Karakhanid_DA204 + 64.8% Assyrian_West" "5.1238"
[18,] "30.5% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA93 + 69.5% Assyrian_South" "5.1423"
[19,] "32.6% Xiongnu-Turk_DA41 + 67.4% Armenian_West" "5.1493"
[20,] "30.7% KAZ_Nomad_MA_DA93 + 69.3% Assyrian_North" "5.1517"
[21,] "46.1% Turkmen_Afghanistan + 53.9% Assyrian_South" "5.161"
[22,] "44.3% Turkmen_Afghanistan + 55.7% Nusayri_Turkey" "5.1745"
[23,] "46.2% Turkmen_Afghanistan + 53.8% Assyrian_North" "5.2444"
[24,] "37.8% Karluk_DA222 + 62.2% Armenian_East" "5.2538"
[25,] "35.1% Karakhanid_DA204 + 64.9% Assyrian_South" "5.2709"
[26,] "54.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan + 45.6% Armenian_East" "5.2731"
[27,] "65.3% Turkmen_Iran + 34.7% Greek_Cypriot" "5.3014"
[28,] "29.7% Kipchak_DA23 + 70.3% Armenian_East" "5.3074"
[29,] "35.2% Karakhanid_DA204 + 64.8% Assyrian_North" "5.3407"
[30,] "36.7% Karluk_DA222 + 63.3% Nusayri_Turkey" "5.3889"
Turk from Feke (Adana):
Gedrosian: 15.65
Siberian: 10.05
Northwest_African: 1.25
Southeast_Asian: 3.00
Atlantic_Med: 10.21
North_European: 8.84
South_Asian: 1.76
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 9.69
East_Asian: 6.16
Caucasian: 33.39
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Turk_Feke
7.16857726 Turk_South
7.17828670 Turk_Southwest
8.21922746 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.51207378 Turk_Northwest
8.89148469 Turk_Central_West
9.55965481 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.23189132 Turk_Central_East
10.43425608 Turk_Southeast
11.40664718 Azerbaijani
11.68296195 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.43086079 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.82766152 Turkmen_Iran
12.82766152 Turkmen_Iran
15.57652079 Iran_Khorasan
15.88741326 Kurd_Kurmanji
16.08983841 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
16.29042971 Turk_East
16.85043323 Zaza
16.89810936 Yazidi
17.11585814 Kurd_Sorani
17.28941584 Iraqi_Baghdad
17.47174862 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
17.48804735 Karachay
17.50689007 Talysh_Azerbaijan
17.89651921 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
Distance: 1.4204% / 1.42035037
Target: Turk_Feke | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.1 Turk_South
9.4 Turkmen_Iran
5.8 Yakut
2.7 Malay_Singapore
So much Mongoloid! You should've set it off in red as I do. ;)
Javid
12-23-2020, 11:21 AM
Azerbaijani Republic (Gadabay, North West) - East Asian record for Azerbaijan. 11.35% Mongoloid. I don't know if it's shared here or not
Gedrosian: 24.04
Siberian 2.62
Northwest_African: 0
Southeast Asian: 0.43
Atlantic Med: 8.51
North Europe: 5.52
South Asian: 0
East African: 0
Southwest Asian: 10.45
East Asian: 8.3
Caucasus 39.53
Sub_Saharan 0.6
Yes, it was shared by Kyp (Snow). Interesting results, zero South Asian and a lot more East Asian than Siberian.
Kaspias
12-23-2020, 12:31 PM
What is the minimum EE score seen among Azerbaijani groups? I mean not the average, individual.
What is the minimum EE score seen among Azerbaijani groups? I mean not the average, individual.
around 2-3% in Republic and Dagestan
lowest in Iran so far is 4.78%
in Turkey there hasn't been a result below 5%
at least according to my database (n=200)
Javid
12-23-2020, 12:49 PM
What is the minimum EE score seen among Azerbaijani groups? I mean not the average, individual.
I think these can be considered as minimum EE among Azerbaijanis (turks). They also have the highest North European and the lowest SW Asian for Azerbaijanis
Guba, North Azerbaijan:
Gedrosian: 23.1
Siberian: 2.28
NW African: 0.26
SE Asian: 0.59
Atlantic Med: 7.72
North European: 16.58
South Asian: 1.37
East African: 0.00
SW Asian: 7.00
East Asian 0.00
Caucasus: 41.11
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Darband, Dagestan (Azerbaijani)
Gedrosian: 23.88
Siberian: 1.96
NW African: 0.45
SE Asian: 0.00
Atlantic Med: 6.5
North European: 16.78
South Asian: 2.96
East African: 0.00
SW Asian: 7.07
East Asian 0.28
Caucasus: 40.13
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Kaspias
12-23-2020, 01:03 PM
I think these can be considered as minimum EE among Azerbaijanis (turks). They also have the highest North European and the lowest SW Asian for Azerbaijanis
Guba, North Azerbaijan:
Gedrosian: 23.1
Siberian: 2.28
NW African: 0.26
SE Asian: 0.59
Atlantic Med: 7.72
North European: 16.58
South Asian: 1.37
East African: 0.00
SW Asian: 7.00
East Asian 0.00
Caucasus: 41.11
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Darband, Dagestan (Azerbaijani)
Gedrosian: 23.88
Siberian: 1.96
NW African: 0.45
SE Asian: 0.00
Atlantic Med: 6.5
North European: 16.78
South Asian: 2.96
East African: 0.00
SW Asian: 7.07
East Asian 0.28
Caucasus: 40.13
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
So the Northern European(Turkic-originated) inherited more than usual while EE inherited less than usual in such cases. These two guys probably Turkic as much as the average, but the Turkic admixture they bear is mostly West Eurasian.
I have seen many such cases among Anatolian and Balkan Turks as well.
So the Northern European(Turkic-originated) inherited more than usual while EE inherited less than usual in such cases. These two guys probably Turkic as much as the average, but the Turkic admixture they bear is mostly West Eurasian.
I have seen many such cases among Anatolian and Balkan Turks as well.
I think in this case it's just North Caucasian admixture. Both are either from Dagestan or bordering it (Quba). They probably can be modelled as Azerbaijani + Lezgic
around 2-3% in Republic and Dagestan
lowest in Iran so far is 4.78%
in Turkey there hasn't been a result below 5%
at least according to my database (n=200)
Heilige Scheiße, you have 200 Azerbaijanis?! That's huge man and we still use the average of 10 samples, lol. I'd like to see your full Iran/Az spreadsheet including all the stuff I've posted in these threads.
Heilige Scheiße, you have 200 Azerbaijanis?! That's huge man and we still use the average of 10 samples, lol. I'd like to see your full Iran/Az spreadsheet including all the stuff I've posted in these threads.
Origin is not clear of all kits, so I prefer not to make an average out of all of them. But I can think of making a new average with only 100% Azerbaijani confirmed kits.
I think in this case it's just North Caucasian admixture. Both are either from Dagestan or bordering it (Quba). They probably can be modelled as Azerbaijani + Lezgic
That's why I'm still not convinced your supposed Tsakhur is legit. I accept only one Tsakhur as pure, the one that scores like Dagestanis. The other two seem mongrelized Azerbaijanis.
That's why I'm still not convinced your supposed Tsakhur is legit. I accept only one Tsakhur as pure, the one that scores like Dagestanis. The other two seem mongrelized Azerbaijanis.
The Tsakhur might be mixed with Azerbaijanis by large parts, so that doesn't make the average non-legit. The idea that they have to be 100% Lezgic is stupid. I can say with certainty that all the Tsakhur samples are confirmed legit from Tsakhurs in Azerbaijan.
Kaspias
12-23-2020, 01:13 PM
I think in this case it's just North Caucasian admixture. Both are either from Dagestan or bordering it (Quba). They probably can be modelled as Azerbaijani + Lezgic
Yeah, could be. I miss that option.
They model roughly half Eastern Anatolian Turk and half Lezgin:
[1,] "56.3% Lak2 + 43.7% Turk_East" "1.1944"
[2,] "48.1% Dargin + 51.9% Turk_East" "1.262"
[3,] "48.3% Lak + 51.7% Turk_East" "1.4382"
[4,] "33.5% Armenian_West + 66.5% Lak2" "1.4929"
[5,] "51.3% Tabasaran + 48.7% Turk_East" "1.5769"
[6,] "41.2% Armenian_West + 58.8% Dargin" "1.6774"
[7,] "52.9% Lak2 + 47.1% Udi_Azerbaijan" "1.6822"
[8,] "59.9% Lezgin + 40.1% Turk_East" "1.7197"
[9,] "32.1% Assyrian_West + 67.9% Lak2" "1.7787"
[10,] "44.6% Dargin + 55.4% Udi_Azerbaijan" "1.8012"
[11,] "32.1% Assyrian_South + 67.9% Lak2" "1.8777"
[12,] "32.5% Assyrian_North + 67.5% Lak2" "1.8826"
[13,] "64.2% Chechen + 35.8% Kurd_Kurmanji" "1.9016"
[14,] "41% Armenian_West + 59% Lak" "1.9045"
[15,] "90.1% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 9.9% Greek_Izmir" "1.9071"
[16,] "47.8% Tabasaran + 52.2% Udi_Azerbaijan" "1.9123"
[17,] "38.1% Armenian_West + 61.9% Tabasaran" "1.9572"
[18,] "90.9% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 9.1% Greek_Foca" "1.9587"
[19,] "91.3% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 8.7% Greek_Icaria" "1.9815"
[20,] "39.7% Assyrian_West + 60.3% Dargin" "1.9865"
Origin is not clear of all kits, so I prefer not to make an average out of all of them. But I can think of making a new average with only 100% Azerbaijani confirmed kits.
The spreadsheet would still be interesting to look at even if most are just marked as IR or AZ.
Some kit
Gedrosia 21.32 Pct
Siberian 2.31 Pct
Northwest_African 1.77 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.18 Pct
North_European 8.67 Pct
South_Asian 3.68 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.41 Pct
East_Asian 4.33 Pct
Caucasus 39.31 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Scarlett
3.04875384 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.68827873 Azerbaijani
4.17549997 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.98009197 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.26530127 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.38536608 Turk_Southeast
6.51859647 Zaza
6.98249239 Kurd_Sorani
7.29171448 Yazidi
8.86822417 Turk_Central_East
Distance: 1.5080% / 1.50795998
Target: Scarlett | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
26.7 Talysh_Azerbaijan
18.8 Kumyks
18.0 Iran_Arab
2.5 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
2.4 Japanese
Distance: 2.8424% / 2.84244929
Target: Scarlett | ADC: 0.5x RC
94.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.2 Nogai
2.4 Kumyks
Kaazi
12-24-2020, 02:32 AM
Magars- Tibeto-Burmese ethnicity
https://genoplot.com/genoplot16.png GenoPlot (https://genoplot.com/shared/g25/#base/Kaazi/17692bf24751)
SampleEast AsianSoutheast AsianSouth AsianSiberianGedrosiaNorth EuropeanCaucasusEast AfricanAtlantic MedSouthwest AsianNorthwest AfricanMagar ► Ma2371.7313.138.236.10.81000000
Magar ► Ma0753.7916.318.237.583.760000.190.160
Magar ► Ma1152.4419.1614.229.332.890.74000.960.260
Magar ► Ma3051.2814.819.047.736.450.0400.65000
Magar ► Ma2849.1713.8220.116.869.10.620.330000
Magar ► Ma4145.3518.1521.125.338.80.090000.190.98
Kaazi
12-24-2020, 03:14 AM
Don't take it seriously.
If you mix Pamiris and Gangetic Dalits (Dusadh) in equal proportion, the mix will be closer to Nepali Brahmin/Bahuns.
Pamiri_Rushan+Dusadh,31.41,2.08,0.02,0.77,3.54,13. 50,36.41,0.04,0.95,2.28,9.02,0.01
Pamiri_Shughnan+Dusadh,31.43,2.22,0.00,0.58,3.21,1 3.31,36.85,0.04,1.02,2.68,8.68,0.01
Pamiri_Ishkashim+Dusadh,31.86,2.3,0.00,0.75,2.39,1 2.33,38.62,0.03,0.70,2.77,8.26,0.00
Distance to: Pamiri_Rushan+Dusadh
4.35844009 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
11.21180182 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
12.51184239 PAK_Kohistani
15.66647695 Kshatriya
15.70841176 Pashtun_Yusafzai
16.33309830 Jatt
16.34169820 Cochin_Jews
17.44596515 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
17.51229568 Meena
17.68648919 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
Distance to: Pamiri_Shughnan+Dusadh
4.10572771 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
10.74789747 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
12.78165873 PAK_Kohistani
15.17357242 Kshatriya
15.99368938 Cochin_Jews
16.20884327 Pashtun_Yusafzai
16.48469290 Jatt
17.16756535 Meena
17.28533772 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
17.43645606 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu
Distance to: Pamiri_Ishkashim+Dusadh
4.74756780 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
9.19167558 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
13.23181393 Kshatriya
13.63953812 PAK_Kohistani
14.44332718 Cochin_Jews
15.40175964 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu
15.72166976 Meena
16.97596831 Jatt
17.25449217 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
17.74797453 Pashtun_Yusafzai
But if you mix Uyghur with Gangetic Dalits (Dusadh) in equal proportion, the mix will be closer to Nepali Kshatriya/ Chhetris. lol
Uyghur+Dusadh,23.70,7.41,0.03,2.83,1.25,7.68,34.44 ,0.00,0.99,16.02,5.68,0.00
Distance to: Uyghur+Dusadh
5.89001698 Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya
9.18838397 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
17.54175020 Nepali_Khas_Brahmin
20.96923461 Nepali_Newar_Shrestha
23.77800664 PAK_Kohistani
23.86917049 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
23.94333937 Cochin_Jews
24.28648390 Burusho
24.75872977 Tajik_Balkh
24.92066010 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
The early Indo-Aryans in Nepal might have looked like Pamiris but there is neither Turkic nor Mongolic influence in Nepal. The Mongoloid should be Tibetan, therefore not Central Asian. The thing is that here we don't know much about Nepal, so it's difficult to make a sensible comment.
Kaazi
12-24-2020, 04:41 PM
The early Indo-Aryans in Nepal might have looked like Pamiris but there is neither Turkic nor Mongolic influence in Nepal. The Mongoloid should be Tibetan, therefore not Central Asian. The thing is that here we don't know much about Nepal, so it's difficult to make a sensible comment.
I cautioned that some may take it literally that Pamiri+ Dusadh (IVC) yielded Modern Nepalese Brahmins, but yeah the portion of Indo-Aryan marker in them looks similar to modern day Pamiris, thus they model very well with them assuming the Dusadh as Indus Valley. And yeah, there's no Turkic or Mongolic influence in Nepal, it's purely Tibetan. That inflated the distance with Kshatriya/Chhetri. The Uyghur itself looked half Pamiri + half Mongol, so it modelled somewhat good.
Thambi
12-24-2020, 06:50 PM
Magars- Tibeto-Burmese ethnicity
https://genoplot.com/genoplot16.png GenoPlot (https://genoplot.com/shared/g25/#base/Kaazi/17692bf24751)
SampleEast AsianSoutheast AsianSouth AsianSiberianGedrosiaNorth EuropeanCaucasusEast AfricanAtlantic MedSouthwest AsianNorthwest AfricanMagar ► Ma2371.7313.138.236.10.81000000
Magar ► Ma0753.7916.318.237.583.760000.190.160
Magar ► Ma1152.4419.1614.229.332.890.74000.960.260
Magar ► Ma3051.2814.819.047.736.450.0400.65000
Magar ► Ma2849.1713.8220.116.869.10.620.330000
Magar ► Ma4145.3518.1521.125.338.80.090000.190.98
finally some magar gedmatch results lol. thank you. they're nonexistent among regular gedmatch kits. I've seen results from most groups except them. Interesting, on average magars seem more south asian than other tibetid groups in nepal. Only the first magar seems to be an exception. scores more like a rai/sherpa
Kaazi
12-25-2020, 01:44 AM
finally some magar gedmatch results lol. thank you. they're nonexistent among regular gedmatch kits. I've seen results from most groups except them. Interesting, on average magars seem more south asian than other tibetid groups in nepal. Only the first magar seems to be an exception. scores more like a rai/sherpa
I've posted Magars harappaworld in the Nepalese DNA thread: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?257548-Nepalese-DNA&p=7048444&viewfull=1#post7048444
including other public Nepali samples as well, Check page 6 & 7. The first Magar scores a whopping 80% NE-Asian in harappaworld. They're all from Palpa district that borders Terai region as per Peterski.
Kaazi
12-25-2020, 02:21 AM
Other Tibeto-Burmese ethnicities from Nepal
Public Tamang samples
https://genoplot.com/genoplot16.png GenoPlot (https://genoplot.com/shared/g25/#base/Kaazi/17697ddd71a1)
SampleEast AsianSoutheast AsianSouth AsianSiberianGedrosiaNorth EuropeanSouthwest AsianEast AfricanNorthwest AfricanSub SaharanCaucasusTamang ► Ta6455.7613.9211.079.746.622.080.680.13000
Tamang ► Ta2454.5616.9814.925.676.5100.2401.010.10
Tamang ► Ta0552.2214.718.117.57.1200.360000
Tamang ► Ta8051.4813.2918.19.166.40.6400000.93
Tamang ► Ta4350.8216.419.188.274.7600.440000.13
Tamang ► Ta3948.9615.0417.579.38.9600000.160
Tamang ► Ta5247.318.1619.028.556.0800.61000.280
Tamang outlier ► Ta0345.5515.6820.315.0812.54000.84000
Public Gurung samples
https://genoplot.com/genoplot16.png GenoPlot (https://genoplot.com/shared/g25/#base/Kaazi/17697e2ec051)
SampleEast AsianSoutheast AsianSouth AsianSiberianGedrosiaSouthwest AsianNorthwest AfricanSub SaharanAtlantic MedNorth EuropeanEast AfricanGurung ► Gu1862.217.510.969.290.06000000
Gurung ► Gu2661.6317.159.488.832.52000000.4
Gurung ► Gu2454.2916.615.2310.062.351.4700000
Gurung ► Gu2752.6516.416.136.554.4501.0802.530.20
Gurung ► Gu2251.8318.9313.789.643.680.950.650.55000
Public Rai (Kirant) samples
https://genoplot.com/genoplot16.png GenoPlot (https://genoplot.com/shared/g25/#base/Kaazi/17697e7ab581)
SampleEast AsianSoutheast AsianSouth AsianSiberianSub SaharanAtlantic MedGedrosiaEast AfricanNorthwest AfricanSouthwest AsianRai ► Rai1664.5920.098.526.610.1900000
Rai ► Rai1264.3916.518.657.6200.21.8800.290.46
Rai ► Rai0461.3621.018.448.4100.430.260.0900
Rai ► Rai1459.9419.779.1510.5700.570000
Rai ► Rai0955.2118.4814.037.540.150.544.05000
Public Sherpa samples
https://genoplot.com/genoplot16.png GenoPlot (https://genoplot.com/shared/g25/#base/Kaazi/17697e892ed1)
SampleEast AsianSoutheast AsianSiberianSouth AsianGedrosiaSherpa ► Sherpa0963.4315.6910.397.612.88
Sherpa ► Sherpa0463.2516.7811.717.360.9
Sherpa ► Sherpa0862.9917.438.568.922.11
Sherpa ► Sherpa1362.5118.368.079.281.78
Kaazi
12-25-2020, 02:29 AM
Nepali ancient proto-Tibetan samples
https://genoplot.com/genoplot16.png GenoPlot (https://genoplot.com/shared/g25/#base/Kaazi/17697edb6c21)
SampleEast AsianSouth AsianSoutheast AsianSiberianSouthwest AsianSub SaharanGedrosiaAtlantic MedNorthwest AfricanNorth EuropeanEast AfricanCaucasusNepal Mebrak 2125BP ► M344.SG65.8515.2911.344.51.841.18000000
Nepal Samdzong 1500BP ► S40.SG64.6411.318.1110.9801.480.6802.8000
Nepal Chokhopani 2700BP ► C1.SG62.749.1915.657.9501.691.580.4200.560.220
Nepal Samzdong 1500BP ► S35.SG61.847.2117.619.841.590.8200001.090
Nepal Samdzong 1500BP ► S10.SG60.639.0616.1510.5300.782.330.520000
Nepal Mebrak 2125BP ► M63.SG607.5219.579.3202.270.98000.3400
Nepal Mebrak 2125BP ► M240.SG59.93018.716.6402.821.138.96001.810
Nepal Samzdong 1500BP ► S41.SG54.748.1818.0711.191.050.532.8600.550.770.64 1.41
Chokhopani-C1 is the oldest.
[
{
"sample": "Nepal Chokhopani 2700BP:C1.SG",
"East Asian": 62.74,
"South Asian": 9.19,
"Southeast Asian": 15.65,
"Siberian": 7.95,
"Southwest Asian": 0,
"Sub Saharan": 1.69,
"Gedrosia": 1.58,
"Atlantic Med": 0.42,
"Northwest African": 0,
"North European": 0.56,
"East African": 0.22,
"Caucasus": 0
}
]
Turk from Nevşehir:
Ydna: R-Z2122 (Y57)
Gedrosian: 14.36
Siberian: 4.89
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 13.65
North_European: 9.69
South_Asian: 1.89
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.81
East_Asian: 3.92
Caucasus: 40.32
Sub_Saharan: 0.46
Distance to: Turk_Nevsehir
2.69757298 Turk_Central_East
3.31285375 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.33967064 Turk_Central_West
4.28968530 Turk_South
5.07719411 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.39791372 Turk_Southwest
6.40663718 Turk_Southeast
7.87100375 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.67379386 Azerbaijani
8.77568231 Turk_East
8.88858256 Turk_Northwest
10.19836261 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.45185574 Turk_Cyprus
11.78668316 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.28596354 Greek_Cappadocia
12.68154565 Zaza
12.80299965 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.95549304 Armenian_East
13.56351356 Greek_Kos
13.63464704 Nusayri_Turkey
13.77855580 Greek_Rhodes
13.84213134 Greek_Crete
14.23960322 Karachay
14.29557974 Armenian_West
14.54642912 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
Distance: 1.5887% / 1.58866822
Target: Turk_Nevsehir | ADC: 0.5x RC
48.1 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
39.7 Turk_Central_East
10.9 Greek_Icaria
1.3 Turk_West_BlackSea
Two Republican Azerbaijanis and one bilingual Iranian (Persian and Azerbaijani speaker) from Tehran
Gedrosia 19.12 Pct
Siberian 3.82 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 2.1 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.72 Pct
North_European 7.6 Pct
South_Asian 2.96 Pct
East_African 0.54 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.48 Pct
East_Asian 3.1 Pct
Caucasus 40.55 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Lale
3.13111801 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.95173380 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.05328262 Azerbaijani
4.91045823 Turk_Southeast
6.50060766 Turk_Central_East
6.77924775 Zaza
6.84606456 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.10713726 Turk_East
7.43995968 Turk_South
7.59674930 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
Distance: 2.1854% / 2.18538642
Target: Lale | ADC: 0.5x RC
86.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.7 Kurdish_Jew
2.3 PANIYA
Gedrosia 19.31 Pct
Siberian 4.5 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.34 Pct
North_European 8.59 Pct
South_Asian 3.74 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 10.96 Pct
East_Asian 3.26 Pct
Caucasus 41.31 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: FA
2.75000000 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.34104826 Azerbaijani
4.63739151 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.57801040 Turk_Southeast
6.15684172 Turk_Central_East
6.92896818 Turk_East
7.02281995 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.14557206 Turk_South
7.30209559 Zaza
7.54063658 Kurd_Kurmanji
Distance: 1.7853% / 1.78532954
Target: FA | ADC: 0.5x RC
75.5 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.4 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.4 Abkhazian
1.7 Pulliyar
Gedrosia 25 Pct
Siberian 2.87 Pct
Northwest_African 0.58 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.07 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.33 Pct
North_European 6.92 Pct
South_Asian 2.74 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.41 Pct
East_Asian 0.25 Pct
Caucasus 38.8 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Mehrdad
2.67566814 Kurd_Kurmanji
2.93069958 Yazidi
3.53328459 Kurd_Sorani
4.30532229 Zaza
4.55893628 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.70242491 Lur_Iran
4.85666552 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.15089313 Iranian
5.45804910 Kurd_KAZ
6.52170990 Azerbaijani
Distance: 1.1673% / 1.16727193
Target: Mehrdad | ADC: 0.5x RC
41.3 Kurd_Kurmanji
32.1 Kurd_Sorani
24.3 Iranian
2.3 Selkup
Javid
12-26-2020, 08:05 PM
Wow these Republic results have pretty high EE. Do you know which part of Azerbaijan they are from? I predict North West (Gazakh, Aghstafa)
Mejgusu
12-26-2020, 08:07 PM
Wow these Republic results have pretty high EE. Do you know which part of Azerbaijan they are? I predict North West (Gazakh, Aghstafa)
First one maybe, second one is quite typical for Azerbaijan, i would say only South Asian is a bit high.
Wow these Republic results have pretty high EE. Do you know which part of Azerbaijan they are from? I predict North West (Gazakh, Aghstafa)
Have you done a test? If yes feel free to share
Javid
12-26-2020, 08:24 PM
Have you done a test? If yes feel free to share
Not yet. I'm planning to do. Of course I'll share
Javid
12-26-2020, 08:26 PM
First one maybe, second one is quite typical for Azerbaijan, i would say only South Asian is a bit high.
Yes it's not unusual but both of them have more than average EE.
Mejgusu
12-26-2020, 08:33 PM
Yes it's not unusual but both of them have more than average EE.
It depends on the region, Daghestan, Karabagh and Lenkeren have around 3-6%, NW-Azerbaijan 8-11%. Second one is very typical.
Javid
12-26-2020, 08:41 PM
It depends on the region, Daghestan, Karabagh and Lenkeren have around 3-6%, NW-Azerbaijan 8-11%. Second one is very typical.
That's why I asked about region :) I didn't say it's the highest EE from Azerbaijan
Wow these Republic results have pretty high EE. Do you know which part of Azerbaijan they are from? I predict North West (Gazakh, Aghstafa)
I don't know, I can give you their email addresses if you want to ask them.
Interesting Armenian result (I think he could be a Caucasus Kurd /Yazidi):
Gedrosian: 25.75
Siberian: 0.62
Northwest_African: 1.96
Southeast_Asian: 0.39
Atlantic_Med: 7.02
North_European: 8.44
South_Asian: 1.29
East_African 1.06
Southwest_Asian: 14.05
East_Asian: 0.69
Caucasian: 38.73
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Tital
3.01292217 Yazidi
3.41925430 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.21134183 Kurd_Sorani
4.66652976 Zaza
4.78719124 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.30379110 Kurd_KAZ
5.57410979 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.83018868 Lur_Iran
5.90167773 Iranian
7.04306751 Iranian_Fars
7.04687165 Azerbaijani
7.88792748 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.33204158 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.50637155 Turk_Southeast
9.62832280 Iran_Mazandaran
11.02708030 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.12204118 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.38829662 Turk_East
11.46684787 Iran_Khorasan
12.63522853 Turk_Central_East
12.95309229 Mandean
13.43326840 Turk_South
13.60226084 Azeri_Jew
13.66122249 Iranian_Jew
14.01900139 Iran_Arab
Distance: 1.9026% / 1.90259052
Target: Tital | ADC: 0.5x RC
38.5 Yazidi
35.7 Kurd_Sorani
13.3 Kurd_KAZ
12.5 Lezgin
Javid
12-26-2020, 09:40 PM
I don't know, I can give you their email addresses if you want to ask them.
Yes please, thanks.
Yes please, thanks.
Check your reputation comment. Let us know if you receive any feedback from them.
harutsafaryan07
12-27-2020, 05:23 AM
Interesting Armenian result (I think he could be a Caucasus Kurd /Yazidi):
Gedrosian: 25.75
Siberian: 0.62
Northwest_African: 1.96
Southeast_Asian: 0.39
Atlantic_Med: 7.02
North_European: 8.44
South_Asian: 1.29
East_African 1.06
Southwest_Asian: 14.05
East_Asian: 0.69
Caucasian: 38.73
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Distance to:Tital
3.01292217Yazidi
3.41925430Kurd_Kurmanji
4.21134183Kurd_Sorani
4.66652976Zaza
4.78719124Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.30379110Kurd_KAZ
5.57410979Azerbaijani_Iran
5.83018868Lur_Iran
5.90167773Iranian
7.04306751Iranian_Fars
7.04687165Azerbaijani
7.88792748Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.33204158Udi_Azerbaijan
9.50637155Turk_Southeast
9.62832280Iran_Mazandaran
11.02708030Iraqi_Baghdad
11.12204118Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.38829662Turk_East
11.46684787Iran_Khorasan
12.63522853Turk_Central_East
12.95309229Mandean
13.43326840Turk_South
13.60226084Azeri_Jew
13.66122249Iranian_Jew
14.01900139Iran_Arab
Distance: 1.9026% / 1.90259052
Target: Tital | ADC: 0.5x RC
38.5Yazidi
35.7Kurd_Sorani
13.3Kurd_KAZ
12.5Lezgininteresting it have Armenian Name or surname ?
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Mejgusu
12-27-2020, 03:33 PM
Results from Turkey. first one from Tokat
Gedrosian: 14.57 Pct
Siberian: 5.23 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 1.45 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 12.07 Pct
North_European: 11.63 Pct
South_Asian: -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 10.51 Pct
East_Asian: 4.80 Pct
Caucasian: 38.52 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -
Distance to: Turk_Tokat
3.03893073 Turk_Central_West
3.17762490 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.22708847 Turk_South
3.77708883 Turk_West_BlackSea
4.14721593 Turk_Central_East
4.60920817 Turk_Southwest
6.79115601 Turk_Northwest
6.88631251 Turk_Southeast
8.29195996 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.57961538 Azerbaijani
10.26701028 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.62410937 Turk_East
12.69294686 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
12.94720047 Karachay
13.06267966 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.43486881 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.47981083 Turk_Cyprus
13.53201020 Zaza
14.30393652 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.41648362 Balkar
14.92882112 Greek_Crete
14.98312718 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
15.07555969 Armenian_East
15.09878141 Talysh_Azerbaijan
15.15357384 Greek_Cappadocia
Distance: 1.5677% / 1.56768594
Target: Turk_Tokat | ADC: 0.5x RC
56.3 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
37.4 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.3 Qumuq
Turk of unknown origin:
Gedrosian: 10.58 Pct
Siberian: 6.93 Pct
Northwest_African: 0.28 Pct
Southeast_Asian: 0.06 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 14.44 Pct
North_European: 15.55 Pct
South_Asian: 1.1 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 12.3 Pct
East_Asian: 4.57 Pct
Caucasian: 34.12 Pct
Sub_Saharan: 0.07 Pct
Distance to: Turk?
4.65233275 Turk_Northwest
5.66625097 Turk_West_BlackSea
5.75195619 Turk_Southwest
7.65936681 Turk_Central_West
8.64514315 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
8.99894994 Turk_South
10.21681457 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.82422284 Turk_Central_East
12.35882276 Turk_Southeast
13.03155785 Greek_Crete
13.26543629 Greek_Fournoi
13.36884064 Greek_Lemnos
13.89796748 Greek_Izmir
14.33500959 Turk_Cyprus
14.50799090 Azerbaijani
14.72527080 Greek_Kos
14.73626818 Greek_Foca
14.84566940 MD_Jewish
14.85074072 Italian_Apulia
15.06341927 Turk_Trakya
15.10435699 Azerbaijani_Turkey
15.34713002 Ashkenazi_Jews
15.57564445 Greek_Rhodes
16.22715625 Italian_Sicily
16.47930824 Italian_Calabria
Distance: 3.0963% / 3.09627620
Target: Turk? | ADC: 0.5x RC
44.8 Turk_Northwest
31.9 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
16.5 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.8 Kuwait2
Turk from Ardahan:
Gedrosian: 19.55 Pct
Siberian: 1.05 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 6.58 Pct
North_European: 8.2 Pct
South_Asian: -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 9.14 Pct
East_Asian: 0.05 Pct
Caucasian: 55.43 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -
Distance to: Turk_Ardahan
2.45336504 Georgian
2.79324184 Turk_Ahiska
4.63818930 Georgian_Turkey
5.03210691 Georgian_Imereti
5.43233835 Georgian_Adjara
5.44135094 Laz
5.77004333 Hemshin
5.78861814 Georgian_Gurian
6.58148919 Abkhazian
7.36267614 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.43264421 Georgian_Mingrelian
7.87850240 Georgian_Svan
8.92061097 Armenian_East
9.26430246 Greek_Pontus
10.41469155 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.24852435 Turk_East
12.06652808 Armenian_West
13.23744688 Circassian
13.53580807 Ossetian
14.88168337 Assyrian_North
14.91095235 Azeri_Jew
15.18303329 Zaza
15.28211700 Assyrian_West
15.46454655 Talysh_Azerbaijan
15.49868382 Assyrian_South
Distance: 1.1190% / 1.11900402
Target: Turk_Ardahan | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.2 Turk_Ahiska
35.4 Georgian
25.4 Georgian_Turkey
Turk from Sinop:
Gedrosian: 13.49 Pct
Siberian: 3.48 Pct
Northwest_African: 0.69 Pct
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 15.74 Pct
North_European: 12.64 Pct
South_Asian: 1.59 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 9.64 Pct
East_Asian: 6.14 Pct
Caucasian: 36.46 Pct
Sub_Saharan: 0.12 Pct
Distance to: Turk_Sinop
2.77530179 Turk_West_BlackSea
3.76089085 Turk_Southwest
4.29329710 Turk_Central_West
4.88250960 Turk_Northwest
6.29664990 Turk_South
6.96094821 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.17326286 Turk_Central_East
9.46065537 Turk_Southeast
9.93931587 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
11.36871585 Azerbaijani
11.50599409 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.16041118 Greek_Crete
12.63893192 Turk_Cyprus
12.63971914 Greek_Fournoi
13.10814632 Greek_Kos
13.30533727 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.32732531 Greek_Lemnos
13.33562897 Greek_Izmir
13.73535584 Greek_Rhodes
13.86193349 Turk_East
15.13571274 Italian_Apulia
15.17933134 Greek_Foca
15.29494034 MD_Jewish
15.29589814 Karachay
15.61705158 Ashkenazi_Jews
Distance: 2.4496% / 2.44955808
Target: Turk_Sinop | ADC: 0.5x RC
63.3 Turk_West_BlackSea
29.7 Turk_Southwest
6.6 Italian_Abruzzo
0.4 Italian_Marche
75% Zaza + 25% Turk from Elazig:
Gedrosian: 23.38 Pct
Siberian: 0.24 Pct
Northwest_African: 0.45 Pct
Southeast_Asian: 1.57 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 5.67 Pct
North_European: 7.29 Pct
South_Asian: 2.68 Pct
East_African 1.17 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 14.62 Pct
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 42.92 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -
Distance to: Zaza_Elazig
3.81900511 Zaza
4.12992736 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.69255794 Kurd_KAZ
4.93627390 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.30947267 Kurd_Sorani
6.10652110 Yazidi
6.57343898 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.71184028 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.94416302 Lur_Iran
7.02285554 Iranian
7.92883976 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.21415242 Azerbaijani
8.67430689 Turk_East
9.97055164 Iranian_Fars
10.09867318 Turk_Southeast
10.27843373 Azeri_Jew
10.64149426 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.75366449 Mandean
10.86547284 Iran_Mazandaran
11.01946460 Assyrian_North
11.14820613 Iranian_Jew
11.20885364 Armenian_East
11.40921996 Assyrian_South
11.89496532 Assyrian_West
12.30967912 Armenian_West
Distance: 2.7207% / 2.72066545
Target: Zaza_Elazig | ADC: 0.5x RC
30.0 Kurd_Sorani
25.7 Kurd_KAZ
22.7 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.4 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.2 Azeri_Jew
Turk from Samsun and Trabzon:
Gedrosian: 12.65 Pct
Siberian: 1.41 Pct
Northwest_African: 2.09 Pct
Southeast_Asian: 1.15 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 10.61 Pct
North_European: 11 Pct
South_Asian: 1.47 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 10.33 Pct
East_Asian: 1.93 Pct
Caucasian: 47.36 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -
Distance to: Turk_Samsun/Trabzon
7.06555730 Turk_East
8.43860771 Armenian_East
8.90956789 Turk_Central_East
9.72166652 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.81167672 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.08421043 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.14923642 Turk_Ahiska
10.78355229 Greek_Cappadocia
11.17751761 Turk_Central_West
11.29639766 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.36744035 Armenian_West
11.37021108 Greek_Pontus
11.60589936 Turk_South
11.87835426 Turk_Southeast
12.04041528 Turk_West_BlackSea
12.08816777 Georgian
12.58615906 Hemshin
12.62040015 Ossetian
12.70294454 Circassian
12.81515509 Azerbaijani
12.98166399 Karachay
13.12411140 Laz
13.43209217 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.52932740 Turk_Cyprus
13.57005895 Assyrian_West
Distance: 2.5847% / 2.58470267
Target: Turk_Samsun/Trabzon | ADC: 0.5x RC
37.1 Turk_East_Black_Sea
32.7 Balkar
30.2 Turk_Cyprus
From Kastamonu, Turkey (very European looking person)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Kastamonu_in_Turkey.svg
Gedrosian: 12.37
Siberian: 2.33
Northwest_African: 2.23
Southeast_Asian: 0.67
Atlantic_Med: 15.95
North_European: 9.78
South_Asian: 0.53
East_African: 1.25
Southwest_Asian: 11.36
East_Asian: 1.14
Caucasian: 41.62
Sub_Saharan: 0.86
Distance to: Turk_Kastamonou
6.43795775 Turk_Central_East
6.83679750 Turk_Central_West
7.28137350 Turk_Cyprus
7.52456643 Turk_West_BlackSea
8.22526595 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.77693568 Turk_South
8.78095097 Greek_Cappadocia
9.28255891 Greek_Kos
9.39906378 Turk_East
9.40314841 Greek_Rhodes
9.46286426 Turk_Southeast
9.74318736 Turk_Southwest
10.02960617 Greek_Crete
11.02956935 Nusayri_Turkey
11.27171238 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.29650831 Greek_Fournoi
11.46071115 Turk_Northwest
11.50344731 Greek_Cypriot
12.03565121 Azerbaijani
12.06314221 Greek_Izmir
12.16309993 Armenian_East
12.34151530 Greek_Icaria
12.47965144 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.82256605 Lebanese_Muslim
13.20422660 Armenian_West
Distance: 1.1269% / 1.12690554
Target: Turk_Kastamonou | ADC: 0.25x RC
32.8 Greek_Rhodes
26.4 Turk_Central_East
18.0 Ossetian
16.1 Turk_Cyprus
5.2 Greek_Cappadocia
1.5 Sandawe_He
From Kastamonu, Turkey (very European looking person)
[IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Kastamonu_in_Turkey.svg
You mean he has light hair or blue eyes and stuff? Might have substantial Greek ancestry.
You mean he has light hair or blue eyes and stuff? Might have substantial Greek ancestry.
He may be half East Black Sea Turk from Rize, Artvin or eastern Trabzon
Gedrosian: 14.57 Pct
Siberian: 5.23 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 1.45 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 12.07 Pct
North_European: 11.63 Pct
South_Asian: -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 10.51 Pct
East_Asian: 4.80 Pct
Caucasian: 38.52 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -
Distance to: Turk_Tokat
3.03893073 Turk_Central_West
3.17762490 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.22708847 Turk_South
3.77708883 Turk_West_BlackSea
4.14721593 Turk_Central_East
4.60920817 Turk_Southwest
6.79115601 Turk_Northwest
6.88631251 Turk_Southeast
8.29195996 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.57961538 Azerbaijani
10.26701028 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.62410937 Turk_East
12.69294686 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
12.94720047 Karachay
13.06267966 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.43486881 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.47981083 Turk_Cyprus
13.53201020 Zaza
14.30393652 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.41648362 Balkar
14.92882112 Greek_Crete
14.98312718 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
15.07555969 Armenian_East
15.09878141 Talysh_Azerbaijan
15.15357384 Greek_Cappadocia
Distance: 1.5677% / 1.56768594
Target: Turk_Tokat | ADC: 0.5x RC
56.3 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
37.4 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.3 Qumuq
Looks like what my father would get (he is half Chepni whose ancestors came from Kürtün, Gümüşhane at 1889)
Interesting how Ardahan came up as Georgian, that's my reference based on around 30 kits I found on Gedmatch. Some of them may be mixed, like 3-5.
Looks like what my father would get (he is half Chepni whose ancestors came from Kürtün, Gümüşhane at 1889)
That sample is substantially East Eurasian/Mongoloid (11.4%). Sinop and Kastamonu also score 15% Atlantic Med which is quite elevated for Turkey.
Mejgusu
12-27-2020, 06:48 PM
Looks like what my father would get (he is half Chepni whose ancestors came from Kürtün, Gümüşhane at 1889)
If you want i can send the link and you can ask the person.
Interesting how Ardahan came up as Georgian, that's my reference based on around 30 kits I found on Gedmatch. Some of them may be mixed, like 3-5.
They are mostly Georgians genetically, they have far more Euro than Lazes. Interesting how Georgiams have some steppe ancestry and Lazes have nearly no North-European.
If you want i can send the link and you can ask the person.
They are mostly Georgians genetically, they have far more Euro than Lazes. Interesting how Georgiams have some steppe ancestry and Lazes have nearly no North-European.
The Laz are a bit more Mediterranean, I believe. More Anatolian. The Steppe in Georgians isn't particularly high but I think it's still higher than in Armenians.
Mejgusu
12-27-2020, 07:18 PM
The Laz are a bit more Mediterranean, I believe. More Anatolian. The Steppe in Georgians isn't particularly high but I think it's still higher than in Armenians.
The interesting thing is it was existing before IE- Expansion and how Lazes escaped from this influence for thousands of years.
The interesting thing is it was existing before IE- Expansion and how Lazes escaped from this influence for thousands of years.
I don't know man, the Laz are known for light pigmentation and I still tie light features to North European influence or Steppe.
This guy, Muhammed Suiçmez, is a Turk born in Karlsruhe, Germany and an extreme metal musician. I read his interview a few years ago and he said he doesn't look like most Turks, therefore faces less "discrimination". I presume he is of Laz extraction. Not too often one would meet Turks looking like this
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/4a4abd16-571d-4413-a3ad-42f33147a020/dqff08-eea26ec3-8b06-4002-b428-074146fee3b9.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJ IUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjph cHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNGE0YWJkMTYtNT cxZC00NDEzLWEzYWQtNDJmMzMxNDdhMDIwXC9kcWZmMDgtZWVh MjZlYzMtOGIwNi00MDAyLWI0MjgtMDc0MTQ2ZmVlM2I5LmpwZy J9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTpmaWxlLmRvd25sb2Fk Il19.ijqwutzXS7_7zSkaBugD_Srph60NAvFYt3rqouh4JdA
https://reversecurrent.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/muhammedsuimez.jpg
Mejgusu
12-27-2020, 08:33 PM
I don't know man, the Laz are known for light pigmentation and I still tie light features to North European influence or Steppe.
This guy, Muhammed Suiçmez, is a Turk born in Karlsruhe, Germany and an extreme metal musician. I read his interview a few years ago and he said he doesn't look like most Turks, therefore faces less "discrimination". I presume he is of Laz extraction. Not too often one would meet Turks looking like this
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/4a4abd16-571d-4413-a3ad-42f33147a020/dqff08-eea26ec3-8b06-4002-b428-074146fee3b9.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJ IUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjph cHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNGE0YWJkMTYtNT cxZC00NDEzLWEzYWQtNDJmMzMxNDdhMDIwXC9kcWZmMDgtZWVh MjZlYzMtOGIwNi00MDAyLWI0MjgtMDc0MTQ2ZmVlM2I5LmpwZy J9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTpmaWxlLmRvd25sb2Fk Il19.ijqwutzXS7_7zSkaBugD_Srph60NAvFYt3rqouh4JdA
https://reversecurrent.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/muhammedsuimez.jpg
I agree, many Turks claim Lazes are mostly Armenoid but i must disagree sometimes. Yes they rather have more a Caucasian look than an Euro- look but many have definitely very light appearance which makes them very special. Here people from Trabzon are one of the biggest groups from Turkey. Some look like regular Turks and some are have special lool where i never would guess any relation to Caucasia. That should be an important lesson: appearance =/= genetics!
Fedora
12-27-2020, 08:38 PM
He may be half East Black Sea Turk from Rize, Artvin or eastern Trabzon
Nah, his caucasus would be higher and North Euro and Atlantic med lower.
there are 10 other results from the coastline in that region and his results seems typical for central black sea coastline, there are results from türkeli,inebolu, sinop who score like that 2-4% eurasian. In non-coastal provinces its like 5-10%. Seems the coastline have absorbed more rums in their dna. o yorede 20yüzyila kadar rumlarda varmis sahil kenarlarinda.
also it shows that even in western black sea region North Euro seems to have been low, he scores 9% NE eventhough genetically he's pretty native, we can assume that the Turcomans scored higher NE than Greeks in Anatolia in almost every province except in Istanbul and Thrace.
Kivan
12-27-2020, 08:46 PM
I don't know man, the Laz are known for light pigmentation and I still tie light features to North European influence or Steppe.
This guy, Muhammed Suiçmez, is a Turk born in Karlsruhe, Germany and an extreme metal musician. I read his interview a few years ago and he said he doesn't look like most Turks, therefore faces less "discrimination". I presume he is of Laz extraction. Not too often one would meet Turks looking like this
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/4a4abd16-571d-4413-a3ad-42f33147a020/dqff08-eea26ec3-8b06-4002-b428-074146fee3b9.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJ IUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjph cHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNGE0YWJkMTYtNT cxZC00NDEzLWEzYWQtNDJmMzMxNDdhMDIwXC9kcWZmMDgtZWVh MjZlYzMtOGIwNi00MDAyLWI0MjgtMDc0MTQ2ZmVlM2I5LmpwZy J9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTpmaWxlLmRvd25sb2Fk Il19.ijqwutzXS7_7zSkaBugD_Srph60NAvFYt3rqouh4JdA
https://reversecurrent.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/muhammedsuimez.jpg
Individuals with this look can be found non-typically in any region of Turkey (except maybe in Kurdish areas).
People from Turkey generally lightwash Eastern Black Sea people.
I agree, many Turks claim Lazes are mostly Armenoid but i must disagree sometimes. Yes they rather have more a Caucasian look than an Euro- look but many have definitely very light appearance which makes them very special. Here people from Trabzon are one of the biggest groups from Turkey. Some look like regular Turks and some are have special lool where i never would guess any relation to Caucasia. That should be an important lesson: appearance =/= genetics!
Individuals with this look can be found non-typically in any region of Turkey (except maybe in Kurdish areas).
People from Turkey generally lightwash Eastern Black Sea people.
User altaic is another 'white-passer' from Turkey, from Eastern Turkey, I believe. Though he seems to love his miniscule Mongoloid most xD But I still wonder how that guy would score on a DNA test. There are plenty of darker natives in Northeastern Europe for examples, darker than him.
Not only Laz people are lightest. Circassians, Bosniaks & Albanians are known for their light features also.
Phenotype is not always equal to genotype, the proof is my Pakistani friend's maternal aunt. She looks very Uzbek or Kyrgyz but is a Pakistani from Karachi. My friend claims her own ancestors came from Hyderabad, India to Karachi in 1947
The community traces its origins to the shifting of the Delhi Sultanate's capital from Delhi to Daulatabad in 1327 during the reign of Muhammad bin Tughluq, and come from various native and foreign ethnic backgrounds [4] The migration of Urdu speaking peoples to the Deccan led to the creation of a new variety of Urdu called Deccani, as well as the establishment of the Bahmani Sultanate, which was the first Independent Muslim kingdom in southern India,[5] and the Deccan Sultanates which followed its demise.[6] Deccani Muslims can have Arab, Afghan, Persian, and Turkic ancestries in addition to having the local Indian heritage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccani_Muslims
I guess my Pakistani friend have some Turkic ancestry on her maternal side. I've heard many Kipchak & Karluk Turkics settled in Indian sub-continent. She already looks dark Turkish (her facial features can pass as ethnic Turk, Kurd or Azeri but skin color is too dark for passing as typical here)
Mejgusu
12-28-2020, 01:58 PM
Someone from Astrakhan:
Gedrosian: 10.38 Pct
Siberian: 19.33 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 1.08 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 8.44 Pct
North_European: 19.83 Pct
South_Asian: 1.74 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 0.89 Pct
East_Asian: 23.27 Pct
Caucasian: 15.05 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -
Distance to: Astrakhan
6.42874016 Nogai_Astrakhan
8.32776080 Karakalpak
9.97060179 Turkmen_Afghanistan
10.48019084 Uzbeks
12.71459791 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
13.02080643 Uzbek
15.04452724 Kazakh
15.27373890 Uyghur
15.63602251 Bashkir
17.28407359 Turkmen_TKM
18.08734641 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
18.71860839 Hazara
19.25444884 Lipka_Tatar
19.56788696 Kyrgyz
24.42454094 Turkmen_Iran
24.42454094 Turkmen_Iran
25.56347981 Nogai
28.92288367 Tajik_Tajikistan
29.21563109 Tatar_Kazan
29.47523198 Altai
30.14475576 Tajik_Balkh
31.14878970 Turk_Northwest
31.97548436 Kalmyk
32.02817666 Tajiks
32.45579455 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
Distance: 2.7816% / 2.78163025
Target: Astrakhan | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.4 Karakalpak
30.1 Nogai_Astrakhan
19.2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
11.3 Nogai
Mejgusu
12-28-2020, 08:30 PM
Turk from Zonguldak:
Gedrosian: 14.55 Pct
Siberian: 6.11 Pct
Northwest_African: 0.07 Pct
Southeast_Asian: 0.55 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 14.26 Pct
North_European: 10.72 Pct
South_Asian: -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 9.68 Pct
East_Asian: 7.99 Pct
Caucasian: 36.07 Pct
Sub_Saharan:-
Distance to: Turk_Zonguldak
3.43476346 Turk_Southwest
4.93180494 Turk_Central_West
4.96382917 Turk_West_BlackSea
5.24609378 Turk_South
5.49634424 Turk_Northwest
5.53632550 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.27542439 Turk_Central_East
9.20029891 Turk_Southeast
10.93872936 Azerbaijani
10.98004554 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.52908217 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
12.69753126 Azerbaijani_Iran
14.16340002 Turk_East
14.67726473 Turk_Cyprus
15.58670908 Greek_Crete
15.67778683 Karachay
15.96141911 Kurd_Kurmanji
15.99171035 Greek_Kos
16.05650024 Greek_Fournoi
16.37856221 Zaza
16.45106987 Greek_Rhodes
16.54517755 Turkmen_Iran
16.54517755 Turkmen_Iran
16.58842970 Udi_Azerbaijan
16.90304410 Greek_Izmir
Distance: 2.5074% / 2.50741078
Target: Turk_Zonguldak | ADC: 0.5x RC
65.9 Turk_Southwest
31.8 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.3 Korean
Turk from Samsun:
Gedrosian: 12.13 Pct
Siberian: 2.89 Pct
Northwest_African: 0.02 Pct
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 13.81 Pct
North_European: 10.91 Pct
South_Asian: 3.72 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 9.32 Pct
East_Asian: 4.39 Pct
Caucasian: 42.82 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -
Distance to: Turk_Samsun
6.11091646 Turk_Central_East
6.57638198 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.81458729 Turk_Central_West
7.15905720 Turk_West_BlackSea
7.95213179 Turk_South
9.14384492 Turk_Southwest
9.56140157 Turk_East
9.76456860 Turk_Southeast
10.37900284 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.02658152 Turk_Northwest
11.43835215 Azerbaijani
11.53896442 Greek_Cappadocia
11.74846373 Turk_Cyprus
12.60990484 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.77071650 Armenian_East
12.87614849 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.36364845 Greek_Kos
13.43307485 Karachay
13.50979645 Greek_Rhodes
13.52046597 Greek_Crete
14.49442996 Greek_Fournoi
14.62094730 Turk_East_Black_Sea
14.65147774 Armenian_West
14.78202287 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
14.80913232 Nusayri_Turkey
Distance: 2.3144% / 2.31443180
Target: Turk_Samsun | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.2 Greek_Cappadocia
24.6 Karachay
22.4 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.3 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.5 Pulliyar
Turk from Ankara and Izmir:
Gedrosian: 14.25 Pct
Siberian: 6.78 Pct
Northwest_African: 1.47 Pct
Southeast_Asian: 0.72 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 14.26 Pct
North_European: 13.45 Pct
South_Asian: 1.71 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 10.69 Pct
East_Asian: 3.67 Pct
Caucasian: 33.01 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -
Distance to: Turk_Ank/Izm
2.83497795 Turk_Northwest
3.57400336 Turk_Southwest
4.83411833 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.09657281 Turk_Central_West
6.81958943 Turk_South
8.72932987 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.21373431 Turk_Central_East
9.58997393 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.06602205 Turk_Southeast
11.82282115 Azerbaijani
12.48243165 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.54093054 Azerbaijani_Iran
14.27787799 Greek_Crete
14.70170058 Greek_Lemnos
14.82248630 Greek_Fournoi
15.00917719 Turk_Cyprus
15.44828793 Greek_Izmir
15.59875316 Greek_Kos
16.07720747 Turkmen_Iran
16.07720747 Turkmen_Iran
16.08365630 Turk_East
16.14692540 Italian_Apulia
16.28107183 Qumuq
16.31483374 MD_Jewish
16.34024480 Greek_Rhodes
Distance: 1.9612% / 1.96118616
Target: Turk_Ank/Izm | ADC: 0.5x RC
89.4 Turk_Northwest
6.5 Iraqi_Arab
4.1 Tajik_Herat
Lucas
12-28-2020, 08:34 PM
I don't know man, the Laz are known for light pigmentation and I still tie light features to North European influence or Steppe.
This guy, Muhammed Suiçmez, is a Turk born in Karlsruhe, Germany and an extreme metal musician. I read his interview a few years ago and he said he doesn't look like most Turks, therefore faces less "discrimination". I presume he is of Laz extraction. Not too often one would meet Turks looking like this
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/4a4abd16-571d-4413-a3ad-42f33147a020/dqff08-eea26ec3-8b06-4002-b428-074146fee3b9.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJ IUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjph cHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNGE0YWJkMTYtNT cxZC00NDEzLWEzYWQtNDJmMzMxNDdhMDIwXC9kcWZmMDgtZWVh MjZlYzMtOGIwNi00MDAyLWI0MjgtMDc0MTQ2ZmVlM2I5LmpwZy J9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTpmaWxlLmRvd25sb2Fk Il19.ijqwutzXS7_7zSkaBugD_Srph60NAvFYt3rqouh4JdA
https://reversecurrent.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/muhammedsuimez.jpg
What? Why you didn't take into account possibility he is of Balkan Turk ancestry (Bosniak for example). It is much more possible to be blond in such case than being Laz lol.
harutsafaryan07
12-29-2020, 06:36 AM
Stavropol Armenian
Gedrosia 20.77 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.14 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.88 Pct
North_European 8.15 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.21 Pct
East_Asian 0.15 Pct
Caucasus 47.69 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Armenian_Stavropol
2.12308737 Udi_Azerbaijan
4.19010740 Armenian_Syunik
4.27242320 Turk_East
4.71016985 Armenian_Karabakh
4.96930579 Armenian_East
6.66698583 Turk_Ahiska
6.81202613 Armenian_Iran
7.29080242 Zaza
7.73954779 Armenian_West
9.05311549 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.15573591 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.21329474 Azeri_Jew
9.36859648 Assyrian_North
9.40854930 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.44534277 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.79115417 Kurd_KAZ
9.79357953 Assyrian_West
9.89887367 Georgian
9.92072074 Assyrian_South
10.12845497 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.43247334 Hemshin
10.46331687 Greek_Pontus
10.67518150 Azerbaijani
10.98192606 Turk_Central_East
Also Armenian from Rostov
Gedrosia 19.76 Pct
Siberian 0.51 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.15 Pct
Atlantic_Med 10.01 Pct
North_European 6.27 Pct
South_Asian 0.41 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 15.07 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 47.81 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Armenian_Rostov
3.70499663 Armenian_East
4.71501856 Turk_East
4.99143266 Armenian_West
5.90855312 Azeri_Jew
5.98060198 Assyrian_North
6.49164078 Assyrian_West
6.60990923 Assyrian_South
7.73497253 Zaza
8.28030797 Turk_Ahiska
8.96105463 Iranian_Jew
9.09764255 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.43452702 Mandean
9.43949151 Kurdish_Jew
9.47988397 Greek_Pontus
9.73120753 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.01365568 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.02402614 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.23729945 Hemshin
10.27751429 Kurd_KAZ
10.35833964 Iraqi_Jew
10.84607763 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.21651461 Laz
11.27805391 Kurd_Sorani
11.29328119 Turk_Southeast
Abriekman
12-29-2020, 07:55 AM
Two Republican Azerbaijanis and one bilingual Iranian (Persian and Azerbaijani speaker) from Tehran
Gedrosia 19.12 Pct
Siberian 3.82 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 2.1 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.72 Pct
North_European 7.6 Pct
South_Asian 2.96 Pct
East_African 0.54 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.48 Pct
East_Asian 3.1 Pct
Caucasus 40.55 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Lale
3.13111801 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.95173380 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.05328262 Azerbaijani
4.91045823 Turk_Southeast
6.50060766 Turk_Central_East
6.77924775 Zaza
6.84606456 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.10713726 Turk_East
7.43995968 Turk_South
7.59674930 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
Distance: 2.1854% / 2.18538642
Target: Lale | ADC: 0.5x RC
86.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.7 Kurdish_Jew
2.3 PANIYA
Gedrosia 19.31 Pct
Siberian 4.5 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.34 Pct
North_European 8.59 Pct
South_Asian 3.74 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 10.96 Pct
East_Asian 3.26 Pct
Caucasus 41.31 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: FA
2.75000000 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.34104826 Azerbaijani
4.63739151 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.57801040 Turk_Southeast
6.15684172 Turk_Central_East
6.92896818 Turk_East
7.02281995 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.14557206 Turk_South
7.30209559 Zaza
7.54063658 Kurd_Kurmanji
Distance: 1.7853% / 1.78532954
Target: FA | ADC: 0.5x RC
75.5 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.4 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.4 Abkhazian
1.7 Pulliyar
Gedrosia 25 Pct
Siberian 2.87 Pct
Northwest_African 0.58 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.07 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.33 Pct
North_European 6.92 Pct
South_Asian 2.74 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.41 Pct
East_Asian 0.25 Pct
Caucasus 38.8 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Mehrdad
2.67566814 Kurd_Kurmanji
2.93069958 Yazidi
3.53328459 Kurd_Sorani
4.30532229 Zaza
4.55893628 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.70242491 Lur_Iran
4.85666552 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.15089313 Iranian
5.45804910 Kurd_KAZ
6.52170990 Azerbaijani
Distance: 1.1673% / 1.16727193
Target: Mehrdad | ADC: 0.5x RC
41.3 Kurd_Kurmanji
32.1 Kurd_Sorani
24.3 Iranian
2.3 Selkup
Isn't South Asian basically part of East Eurasian in case of West Asians or Europeans, since it is related to steppe? In your comments there are East Asian components in red color, but South Asian not
Isn't South Asian basically part of East Eurasian in case of West Asians or Europeans, since it is related to steppe? In your comments there are East Asian components in red color, but South Asian not
Well, even if South Asian is technically East Eurasian too, popularly people mean 'Mongoloid' when they say 'East Eurasian'. So basically the red components are Mongoloid. Also I don't think people like Azerbaijanis or Turks actually have Negrito or Australoid admixture, so that South Asian thing may as well be part West Eurasian. At any rate, I treat the South Asians and the East Asians as different races/racial components.
Abriekman
12-29-2020, 07:51 PM
Well, even if South Asian is technically East Eurasian too, popularly people mean 'Mongoloid' when they say 'East Eurasian'. So the red components are Mongoloid. Also I don't think people like Azerbaijanis or Turks actually have Negrito or Australoid admixture, so that South Asian think may as well be part West Eurasian. At any rate, I treat the South Asians and the East Asians as different races/racial components.
I noticed many people from countries, in where people have some Mongoloid admixture can have more South Asian, but then reduced East Asian and Siberian,
Mejgusu
12-29-2020, 09:30 PM
I noticed many people from countries, in where people have some Mongoloid admixture can have more South Asian, but then reduced East Asian and Siberian,
Because this countries are probably some Westasian/Southern Central Asian. That amount of South Asian has neither steppe nor Turkic origin, but it is present among many nowadays Iranics and Turkics.
Abriekman
12-29-2020, 09:49 PM
Because this countries are probably some Westasian/Southern Central Asian. That amount of South Asian has neither steppe nor Turkic origin, but it is present among many nowadays Iranics and Turkics.
İ remember I read about 3 siblings, 2 of them scored 3-4% East Asian and 0% South Asian, Siberian, while other about 2% South Asian and 1% Eastern Eurasian. I disagree, South Asian is steppe related component
Siberian/East Asian doesn't get misread as South Asian.
Abriekman
12-29-2020, 09:57 PM
Siberian/East Asian doesn't get misread as South Asian.
It does sometimes to my knowledge. Not in cases of Central or Eastern Asians, but in cases of Europeans and West Asians
It does sometimes to my knowledge. Not in cases of Central or Eastern Asians, but in cases of Europeans and West Asians
I am not sure of that and won't treat it as Mongoloid anyway. Let's not debate this here.
Javid
12-29-2020, 10:59 PM
Azerbaijani — All ancestors from Daralayaz, modern day Armenia
Gedrosia 22.8
Siberian 3.62
Northwest African 0
Southeast Asian 0
Atlantic Med 8.55
North European 9.43
South Asian 2.31
East African 0.94
Southwest Asian 12.6
East Asian 1.79
Caucasus 37.96
Sub Saharan 0
7/8 Azerbaijani + 1/8 Kurdish from Ighdir, Turkey
Gedorsia 19
Siberian 4.4
Northwest African 0.55
Southeast Asian 0
Atlantic Med 8.83
North European 8.63
South Asian 3.39
East African 0.53
Southwest Asian 10.15
East Asian 2.94
Caucasus 41.59
Sub Saharan 0
50% Lebanese/Syrian 50% Syrian Turkmen/Zaza (very pretty girl!)
Gedrosian: 15.25
Siberian: 1.20
Northwest_African: 5.32
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 11.63
North_European: 2.91
South_Asian: 1.20
East_African: 2.31
Southwest_Asian: 18.66
East_Asian: 0.68
Caucasian: 38.18
Sub_Saharan: 2.67
Distance to: LTZ
4.14820443 Lebanese_Muslim
6.31540973 Iraqi_Baghdad
6.32326656 Syrian_Muslim
8.05354580 Nusayri_Turkey
8.12925581 Palestinian
9.09178750 Jordanian_Muslim
9.13926146 Iranian_Jew
9.31659809 Iraqi_Jew
9.33489689 Mandean
9.43846916 Iran_Arab
9.49828406 Kurdish_Jew
9.67222829 Lebanese_Christian
9.71073633 Iraqi_Arab
10.32775871 Turk_Southeast
10.51772314 Assyrian_South
10.74961395 Azeri_Jew
10.76665222 Assyrian_West
11.13673202 Assyrian_North
11.15658550 Palestinian_Christian
11.34595082 Syrian_SW_Christian
11.71530623 Turk_Cyprus
11.76964316 Jordanian_Christian
11.96974102 Turk_Central_East
12.28187689 Kurd_Sorani
12.69604663 Kurd_Kurmanji
Distance: 2.1876% / 2.18760190
Target: LTZ | ADC: 0.5x RC
70.7 Lebanese_Muslim
15.3 Yazidi
7.1 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.0 Algerian
2.9 Iraqi_Baghdad
Kaazi
12-30-2020, 10:49 AM
Isn't South Asian basically part of East Eurasian in case of West Asians or Europeans, since it is related to steppe? In your comments there are East Asian components in red color, but South Asian not
West Asians like Iranics and Turkics can have lil certain South Asian admixture. Indus Valley (IVC) admixture was present during the Bronze Age in the regions where Iranics and Turkics people probably lived. The Turkmenistan Gonur2 from Bronze Age, Uzbekistan Bustan 2nd outlier from Bronze Age had pretty good amount of IVC admixture; they cluster closer to Pakistan Swat Valley sample. Shahr-I-Sokhta (SIS-BA3) from Iran is well known for having highest AASI admixture in the West Asia. IVC had trade links with Central Asia and West Asia, and these admixture are probably trade related from those ancient ages and not East Asian getting misread into South Asian.
Distance to: UZB_Bustan_BA_o2
0.02194026 PAK_Aligrama_H
0.02405216 PAK_Butkara_H
0.02491273 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H
0.02855427 PAK_Katelai_IA
0.02861885 PAK_Barikot_MA
0.03256142 PAK_Loebanr_IA
0.03558024 PAK_Gogdara_IA
0.03731251 PAK_Butkara_IA
0.03750580 PAK_Udegram_IA
0.04067304 PAK_Barikot_H
0.04265189 PAK_Aligrama_IA
0.04501774 PAK_Arkotkila_IA
0.05451833 PAK_Barikot_IA
0.05804350 PAK_Katelai_LBA
0.06871632 TKM_Gonur2_BA
Distance to: TKM_Gonur2_BA
0.06340015 PAK_Butkara_H
0.06601862 PAK_Aligrama_IA
0.06603294 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
0.06871632 UZB_Bustan_BA_o2
0.06875081 PAK_Loebanr_IA
0.06986993 PAK_Katelai_IA
0.07233217 PAK_Butkara_IA
0.07414122 PAK_Gogdara_IA
0.07469894 PAK_Udegram_IA
0.07576701 PAK_Katelai_LBA
0.07629693 PAK_Aligrama_H
0.07753492 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H
0.07966599 PAK_Barikot_MA
0.08085833 PAK_Barikot_H
0.08211194 PAK_Arkotkila_IA
Distance to: IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3
0.04651431 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
0.05519422 IND_Roopkund_A
0.07368012 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
0.08838259 PAK_Katelai_LBA
0.10095183 PAK_Aligrama_IA
0.10863171 PAK_Butkara_H
0.12066857 PAK_Barikot_MA
0.12106882 PAK_Aligrama_H
0.12319925 UZB_Bustan_BA_o2
0.13050725 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H
0.13568345 TKM_Gonur2_BA
0.14338216 PAK_Katelai_IA
0.14439890 PAK_Gogdara_IA
0.14643618 PAK_Loebanr_IA
0.15052197 PAK_Barikot_H
Distance to: UZB_Bustan_BA_o2
0.03148387 Gujar_Pakistan
0.03205168 Gujar_India
0.03446341 Kohistani
0.03536616 Sindhi
0.03548991 Kashmiri_Pandit
0.03607671 Khatri
0.03830030 Punjabi_Sikh_India
0.03891214 Brahmin_Gujarat
0.04751272 Punjabi_Jatt
0.05020087 Kamboj
0.05551547 Burusho
0.06098778 Yusufzai
0.06104826 Pashtun
0.06736266 Brahmin_Tamil_Nadu
0.06831523 Kshatriya
Distance to: TKM_Gonur2_BA
0.07080459 Gujar_Pakistan
0.07210301 Sindhi
0.07375624 Gujar_India
0.08081895 Khatri
0.08376921 Kohistani
0.08630518 Punjabi_Sikh_India
0.08672672 Brahmin_Gujarat
0.08711466 Kashmiri_Pandit
0.08927376 Kamboj
0.09094661 Punjabi_Jatt
0.09787014 Yusufzai
0.09860635 Brahui
0.09882546 Pashtun
0.10220102 Balochi
0.10269746 Kalash
Distance to: IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3
0.03240036 Velamas
0.03724464 Piramalai
0.03843608 Kurumba
0.04039557 Yadava
0.04413825 Maratha
0.04437636 Dusadh
0.04712160 Gujarati
0.04831829 Kol
0.05170136 Kamboj_o
0.05185017 Chamar
0.05185488 Kanjar
0.05211794 Sakilli
0.05461040 Dharkar
0.05486879 Punjabi_Lahore
0.05654033 Uttar_Pradesh
Lucas
12-30-2020, 03:02 PM
50% Lebanese/Syrian 50% Syrian Turkmen/Zaza (very pretty girl!)
Pics or didn't happen.
Iranian Georgian from Mashadd + Khorasan Turkmen or Turk:
Gedrosian: 26.19
Siberian: 1.93
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.09
North_European: 9.60
South_Asian 4.35
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 5.76
East_Asian: 3.70
Caucasian: 41.38
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Khorasan_Georgian_Turk
7.55074831 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.20129258 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.61618825 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.74334032 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.85717788 Iranian
9.33191299 Azerbaijani
9.57959811 Zaza
9.84274860 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.11304603 Yazidi
10.23236043 Kurd_KAZ
10.50716898 Iran_Mazandaran
10.61895946 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
10.62246676 Iran_Khorasan
10.83462044 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.29569830 Ingush
11.30011062 Lur_Iran
11.92984493 Iranian_Fars
11.95060668 Kurd_Sorani
12.62871727 Turk_East
12.71438949 Turk_Southeast
13.27104367 Circassian
13.29753361 Karachay
13.58647121 Chechen
13.64845046 Turk_Central_East
13.72421582 Ossetian
Distance: 2.4625% / 2.46249260
Target: Khorasan_Georgian_Turk | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.0 Georgian_Adjara
26.2 Iran_Khorasan
24.5 Ingush
13.3 Burusho
An Afro-Iraqi match of mine:
Gedrosia 11.06
Siberian 0.92
Northwest_African 1.56
Southeast_Asian 0.17
Atlantic_Med 3.28
North_European 0.28
South_Asian 6.98
East_African 11.52
Southwest_Asian 19.22
East_Asian 1.24
Caucasus 17.96
Sub_Saharan 25.81
Distance: 2.1828% / 2.18282300
Target: afro-iraqi | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.0 Yemenite_mixed
24.3 Luhya
16.1 Iran_Bandari
10.6 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
Roman-Anatolian
12-31-2020, 07:37 AM
Differences beetween Greek_Pontus and Laz
Distancedifference:(AC-BC) ↑
A:Greek_Pontus
B:Laz
C:↴
-5.08935548 Greek_Cypriot
-4.76471305 Lebanese_Christian
-4.74072502 Greek_Cappadocia
-4.73219263 Sephardic_Jews
-4.73176213 Palestinian_Christian
-4.71559735 Jordanian_Christian
-4.69843462 Syrian_SW_Christian
-4.68991537 Nusayri_Turkey
-4.65299738 Morocco_Jews
-4.57182317 Italian_Jews
-4.47736996 Turk_Cyprus
-4.41556251 Greek_Rhodes
-4.35516903 Greek_Icaria
-4.30920536 Greek_Kos
-4.21221479 Sardinian
-4.20579057 Italian_Calabria
-4.17902425 Palestinian
-4.16330842 Ashkenazi_Jews
-4.13189970 Coptic
-4.10398795 Jordanian_Muslim
-4.05489848 MD_Jewish
-4.02983639 Egyptian
-4.02352794 Lebanese_Muslim
-3.99585426 Italian_Campania
-3.92795706 Bedouin
Distancedifference:(AC-BC) ↓
A:Greek_Pontus
B:Laz
C:↴
5.18004723 Georgian_Turkey
5.12450476 Georgian_Imereti
4.98774009 Georgian_Mingrelian
4.97125865 Georgian_Adjara
4.68505131 Georgian_Svan
4.62019136 Georgian_Gurian
3.85033702 Abkhazian
3.77965958 Georgian
3.05981523 Hemshin
2.37343419 Turk_Ahiska
1.85494210 Kumyks
1.83738641 Circassian
1.75536937 Ossetian
1.44260730 Ingush
1.37787021 Chechen
1.27772542 Lak
1.11576642 Dargin
1.10991426 Lak
21.09643193 Balkar
1.06012496 Avar
1.03897056 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
1.00107739 Lezgin
0.89023220 Tabasaran
0.86906018 Karachay
0.82734529 Iran_Mazandaran
Azerbaijani
Gedrosia 20.07 Pct
Siberian 3.56 Pct
Northwest_African 0.3 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.79 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.28 Pct
North_European 10.61 Pct
South_Asian 1.57 Pct
East_African 0.5 Pct
Southwest_Asian 11 Pct
East_Asian 1.3 Pct
Caucasus 44.87 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.17 Pct
Distance to: Zara
6.22454818 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.89066035 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.94802850 Turk_East
7.72383972 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.79316367 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.82625709 Zaza
8.22758774 Azerbaijani
9.08007159 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.34027837 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.77825138 Kurd_KAZ
Distance: 0.5617% / 0.56170554
Target: Zara | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.1 Talysh_Azerbaijan
32.2 Abkhazian
13.3 Kumyks
9.2 Turk_East
8.2 Kuwait1
2.8 Selkup
0.2 Dolgan
Distance: 2.9612% / 2.96119245
Target: Zara | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.5 Turk_East
31.5 Talysh_Azerbaijan
29.0 Kumyks
Made new averages for Persians that are not represented by the current averages, not saying they should be used but I still can show them here:
Central Iran:
https://i.imgur.com/WwrvXZs.png
Gedrosian: 27.04
Siberian: 0.96
Northwest_African: 0.37
Southeast_Asian: 0.64
Atlantic_Med: 6.16
North_European: 7.35
South_Asian: 5.77
East_African: 0.78
Southwest_Asian: 12.87
East_Asian: 0.66
Caucasian: 36.64
Sub_Saharan: 0.68
Distance to: Iran_Central
2.89205809 Iranian_Fars
4.67301830 Yazidi
5.03705271 Lur_Iran
5.07377571 Iran_C_East
5.09387868 Iranian
5.39392251 Kurd_Sorani
6.10942714 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.26991228 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.57186427 Iran_Khorasan
7.36805945 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.66835054 Kurd_KAZ
7.70552399 Zaza
8.30219248 Iran_Mazandaran
8.69313522 Azerbaijani
9.73280021 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.50502934 Turk_Southeast
12.42142504 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.64367035 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.64558816 Iraqi_Baghdad
13.61564174 Parsi_India
14.39660029 Turk_East
14.72497199 Iran_Arab
14.90382501 Turk_Central_East
15.16603112 Turk_South
15.41227433 Mandean
Distance: 1.6382% / 1.63821927
Target: Iran_Central | ADC: 1x RC
70.0 Iranian_Fars
24.1 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.6 Iranian
1.3 Kurd_Iran
Muslim Persians from Southeast (Kerman & Yazd):
https://i.imgur.com/W4xX2cJ.jpg
Gedrosian: 29.71
Siberian: 0.99
Northwest_African: 0.30
Southeast_Asian: 0.21
Atlantic_Med: 6.09
North_European: 8.31
South_Asian: 7.60
East_African: 0.85
Southwest_Asian: 12.19
East_Asian: 0.34
Caucasian: 32.96
Sub_Saharan: 0.49
Distance to: Iran_C_East
4.10665314 Iran_Khorasan
4.58541165 Iranian_Fars
5.07377571 Iran_Central
8.86715287 Iranian
9.02535872 Yazidi
9.03735028 Lur_Iran
9.55405673 Iran_Mazandaran
9.88406799 Kurd_Sorani
10.38632274 Parsi_India
10.72913324 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.00971389 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.61917811 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.05926200 Kurd_KAZ
12.29972764 Iran_Bandari
12.49279392 Zaza
12.51648513 Azerbaijani
13.86884999 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.07807160 Tajik_Herat
14.55548694 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.19324521 Turk_Southeast
16.25764128 Iraqi_Baghdad
17.30855858 Udi_Azerbaijan
17.33499351 Iran_Arab
17.62101019 Lezgin
18.25069588 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
Distance: 1.5069% / 1.50690106
Target: Iran_C_East | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.8 Iranian_Fars
15.4 Iran_Mazandaran
14.0 Yagnobi
12.8 Parsi_India
3.0 Balochi
Distance: 2.8652% / 2.86522605
Target: Iran_C_East | ADC: 1x RC
54.9 Iran_Khorasan
45.1 Iranian_Fars
Iranians from Khorasan (this one should replace the old average):
https://i.imgur.com/94UDcvg.jpg
Gedrosian: 28.01
Siberian: 1.89
Northwest_African: 0.34
Southeast_Asian: 0.29
Atlantic_Med: 6.34
North_European: 9.65
South_Asian: 7.63
East_African: 0.44
Southwest_Asian: 10.14
East_Asian: 2.84
Caucasian: 32.17
Sub_Saharan: 0.26
Distance to: Iran_Khorasan
4.10665314 Iran_C_East
6.52196289 Iranian_Fars
10.23406566 Yazidi
10.38528767 Iranian
10.63411021 Kurd_Iran
10.89079887 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.00347672 Lur_Iran
11.21455305 Kurd_Sorani
11.29245323 Parsi_India
11.34193987 Azerbaijani
11.43593896 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.64028350 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.65305968 Iran_Mazandaran
12.09814449 Tajik_Herat
12.77682277 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.16070667 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.16269349 Zaza
13.53295976 Kurd_KAZ
13.57530478 Iran_Bandari
14.14508042 Turk_Southeast
15.30758962 Turkmen_Iran
16.04966666 Lezgin
16.37283421 Turk_South
16.55549758 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
17.04088613 Yagnobi
Distance: 1.5852% / 1.58516407
Target: Iran_Khorasan | ADC: 0.5x RC
79.6 Iran_C_East
16.5 Turkmen_Iran
3.9 Tajik_Tajikistan
Distance: 1.6577% / 1.65766470
Target: Iran_Khorasan | ADC: 1x RC
80.2 Iran_C_East
19.8 Turkmen_Iran
New improved Mazandaran average (should replace old average):
Gedrosian: 33.07
Siberian: 0.48
Northwest_African: 0.25
Southeast_Asian: 0.26
Atlantic_Med: 2.86
North_European: 5.68
South_Asian: 5.27
East_African: 0.32
Southwest_Asian: 10.96
East_Asian: 0.26
Caucasian: 40.38
Sub_Saharan: 0.19
Distance to: Iran_Mazandaran2
5.80141362 Iranian
7.75125151 Lur_Iran
8.37274149 Kurd_KAZ
9.02773504 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.20149988 Iranian_Fars
9.55405673 Iran_C_East
9.98348136 Yazidi
11.23298268 Kurd_Iran
11.38994293 Kurd_Sorani
11.51538536 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.65305968 Iran_Khorasan
11.79963983 Zaza
13.38943987 Azerbaijani_Iran
15.00246646 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.12987773 Azerbaijani
15.32309368 Azerbaijani_Turkey
15.53476102 Udi_Azerbaijan
16.34656233 Parsi_India
17.29798543 Iran_Bandari
18.33634915 Turk_Southeast
18.41191191 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
18.41790705 Turk_East
18.88137972 Iraqi_Baghdad
19.02821064 Lezgin
Distance: 3.1540% / 3.15402515
Target: Iran_Mazandaran2
40.6 Balochi
23.8 Georgian_Turkey
23.5 Kurd_KAZ
12.1 Georgian_Svan
Kurds from Iran:
Gedrosian: 24.60
Siberian: 0.94
Northwest_African: 0.69
Southeast_Asian: 0.50
Atlantic_Med: 8.08
North_European: 7.84
South_Asian: 2.68
East_African: 0.40
Southwest_Asian: 14.56
East_Asian: 0.80
Caucasian: 38.94
Sub_Saharan: 0.04
Distance to: Kurd_Iran
1.65208959 Kurd_Kurmanji
2.40964728 Yazidi
2.75243529 Kurd_Sorani
3.44899986 Zaza
4.45614183 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.45734226 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.31698223 Iran_Central
5.42853571 Lur_Iran
5.64417399 Kurd_KAZ
5.78879089 Azerbaijani
6.04573403 Iranian
6.63254853 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.89876076 Iranian_Fars
8.03219771 Turk_Southeast
8.64363928 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.72097732 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.83524784 Iran_C_East
10.22813766 Turk_East
10.63411021 Iran_Khorasan
11.23298268 Iran_Mazandaran
11.33238280 Turk_Central_East
11.73445781 Mandean
11.79381618 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.32558315 Turk_South
12.36706918 Azeri_Jew
Distance: 1.3647% / 1.36469372
Target: Kurd_Iran | ADC: 1x RC
72.0 Kurd_Kurmanji
28.0 Kurd_Sorani
Improved Fars province average:
Gedrosian: 27.21
Siberian: 1.00
Northwest_African: 1.37
Southeast_Asian: 0.70
Atlantic_Med: 5.81
North_European: 6.19
South_Asian: 5.89
East_African: 1.22
Southwest_Asian: 14.47
East_Asian: 0.87
Caucasus: 33.94
Sub_Saharan: 0.31
Distance to: Iran_Fars
0.68934752 Iranian_Fars
2.88811357 Iran_Central
4.97001006 Iran_C_East
5.38177480 Lur_Iran
5.58930228 Yazidi
5.64317287 Kurd_Sorani
6.50045383 Kurd_Iran
6.74175051 Iranian
6.98962088 Iran_Khorasan
7.36853445 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.13327732 Iran_Khorasan
8.16488824 Iran_Mazandaran
8.24952120 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.70171822 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.10903947 Kurd_KAZ
9.27239451 Zaza
9.40825170 Iran_Mazandaran2
9.99158646 Azerbaijani
11.27565519 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.81747435 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.27140986 Turk_Southeast
12.52094645 Parsi_India
13.19649196 Iran_Arab
14.52511618 Udi_Azerbaijan
Distance: 1.0573% / 1.05729791
Target: Iran_Fars | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.6 Iran_C_East
27.4 Lur_Iran
16.1 Iran_Arab
3.9 Iran_Central
All new averages:
Iran_Khorasan,28.01,1.89,0.34,0.29,6.34,9.65,7.63, 0.44,10.14,2.84,32.17,0.26
Iran_C_East,29.71,0.99,0.30,0.21,6.09,8.31,7.60,0. 85,12.19,0.34,32.96,0.49
Iran_Central,27.04,0.96,0.37,0.64,6.16,7.35,5.77,0 .78,12.87,0.66,36.64,0.68
Iran_Mazandaran2,33.07,0.48,0.25,0.26,2.86,5.68,5. 27,0.32,10.96,0.26,40.38,0.19
Kurd_Iran,24.60,0.94,0.69,0.50,8.08,7.84,2.68,0.40 ,14.56,0.80,38.94,0.04
Iran_Fars,27.21,1.00,1.37,0.70,5.81,6.19,5.89,1.22 ,14.47,0.87,34.94,0.31
Also new Iranian Azerbaijani average (n=46):
Gedrosian: 22.19
Siberian: 2.69
Northwest_African: 0.71
Southeast_Asian: 1.02
Atlantic_Med: 7.94
North_European: 7.86
South_Asian: 3.01
East_African: 0.37
Southwest_Asian: 12.58
East_Asian: 3.05
Caucasus: 38.47
Sub_Saharan: 0.13
Distance to: Azeri_Iran
0.93085982 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.41246762 Azerbaijani
3.35490685 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.18259489 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.23882620 Zaza
5.37452323 Turk_Southeast
5.42535713 Yazidi
5.67154300 Kurd_Sorani
5.70797687 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.89753759 Lur_Iran
7.99859988 Iranian
8.27353612 Kurd_KAZ
8.31297781 Iranian_Fars
8.45108277 Turk_Central_East
8.86237553 Turk_South
8.96822167 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.21789021 Turk_East
9.84710617 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.13449555 Iran_Khorasan
10.33404567 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.43191737 Turk_Central_West
11.03206236 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.19460536 Iran_Mazandaran
12.73278446 Turk_Southwest
12.79417836 Turk_West_BlackSea
Distance: 1.6146% / 1.61463271
Target: Azeri_Iran | ADC: 1x RC
68.3 Azerbaijani
31.7 Kurd_Kurmanji
New Iraqi Turkmen average (should be added too)
Gedrosian: 21.88
Siberian: 1.97
Northwest_African: 1.20
Southeast_Asian: 0.49
Atlantic_Med: 7.52
North_European: 5.40
South_Asian: 4.10
East_African: 0.79
Southwest_Asian: 16.48
East_Asian: 1.12
Caucasian: 38.44
Sub_Saharan: 0.59
Distance to: Iraq_Turkmen
3.13773804 Kurd_Sorani
4.59452936 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.63643182 Kurd_Iran
5.40809578 Yazidi
5.69858754 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.90730903 Zaza
6.02893855 Iraqi_Baghdad
6.57245008 Lur_Iran
6.76535291 Azerbaijani
7.14825853 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.26574153 Iran_Fars
7.30000000 Iran_Central
7.35780538 Turk_Southeast
7.48533232 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.75793787 Iranian_Fars
8.37360138 Kurd_KAZ
8.65831392 Iranian
9.30130098 Mandean
9.50581927 Iran_Arab
9.90496845 Iranian_Jew
10.34452512 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.51485140 Turk_East
10.73621442 Azeri_Jew
11.01095818 Turk_Central_East
Distance: 1.5356% / 1.53559824
Target: Iraq_Turkmen | ADC: 0.5x RC
44.5 Kurd_Sorani
31.5 Iraqi_Baghdad
24.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
Sterling Archer
01-04-2021, 11:58 AM
Here are the averages for Azerbaijanis as well as for the other Turkic people taken from Turkish / Azerbaijan-Turkic DNA projects.
As we can see here, the Republic Azeris are very heterogeneous bunch, and quite often closer to the Caucasus people rather than Iranian Azeris. Comparatively speaking the number of tests from the northern part of the Republic is low, so I expect this difference will be even more accentuated as the number of tests increase.
Azerbaijani_Dagestan and Azerbaijani_Qakh are clear standouts when it comes to NE components. It is probably true that almost all of the northern regions of the Republic, such as Quba, Qusar, Khachmaz, Ismayilli, Shaki etc., belong to these groups, which is a huge number. They also do not cluster with Iranian Azerbaijanis.
Another standout is Azerbaijani_North_West which has a very high east Asian component. They cluster closer to Turks from eastern parts of Turkey.
Another moment to point out is that there are close to 100,000 Meskheti Turks in the republic. I expect assimilation of those will also change the composition in the long-run.
105057
https://i.imgur.com/HGkYGno.png
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Is the unspecified Azerbaijani average only Republican? How many samples?
Sterling Archer
01-04-2021, 06:59 PM
Is the unspecified Azerbaijani average only Republican? How many samples?
Yes, anything except Azerbaijani_Iran is from the Republic. I don't know about the sample size though.
Sterling Archer
01-05-2021, 12:30 PM
Results of an Azeri from the republic. If I am not mistaken (don't remember exact details), mix between Iranian Azeri and northern part of the republic.
Taken from Azerbaijan Turki DNA project.
https://i.imgur.com/vDKOQTp.png
https://i.imgur.com/bLqx05g.png
Results of an Azeri from the republic. If I am not mistaken (don't remember exact details), mix between Iranian Azeri and northern part of the republic.
Taken from Azerbaijan Turki DNA project.
https://i.imgur.com/vDKOQTp.png
https://i.imgur.com/bLqx05g.png
User Kyp monitors that project and typically he would repost everything here that is of interest. I think that sample has been here before.
Sterling Archer
01-05-2021, 01:08 PM
Thread is too long, didn't have time to check everything out )
If Kyp confirms that this has been posted, I can delete the post.
Thread is too long, didn't have time to check everything out )
If Kyp confirms that this has been posted, I can delete the post.
I don't remember :D
Sterling Archer
01-05-2021, 01:23 PM
I don't remember :D
Then it stays :)
Sterling Archer
01-05-2021, 01:24 PM
Double
Demhat
01-05-2021, 02:15 PM
Made new averages for Persians that are not represented by the current averages, not saying they should be used but I still can show them here:
Interesting even the most Southeastern Persian samples (from Yazd and Kerman) have not much difference to the overall average. The same goes for Khorasan.
New improved Mazandaran average (should replace old average):
Gedrosian: 33.07
Siberian: 0.48
Northwest_African: 0.25
Southeast_Asian: 0.26
Atlantic_Med: 2.86
North_European: 5.68
South_Asian: 5.27
East_African: 0.32
Southwest_Asian: 10.96
East_Asian: 0.26
Caucasian: 40.38
Sub_Saharan: 0.19
Distance to: Iran_Mazandaran2
5.80141362 Iranian
7.75125151 Lur_Iran
8.37274149 Kurd_KAZ
9.02773504 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.20149988 Iranian_Fars
9.55405673 Iran_C_East
9.98348136 Yazidi
11.23298268 Kurd_Iran
11.38994293 Kurd_Sorani
11.51538536 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.65305968 Iran_Khorasan
11.79963983 Zaza
13.38943987 Azerbaijani_Iran
15.00246646 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.12987773 Azerbaijani
15.32309368 Azerbaijani_Turkey
15.53476102 Udi_Azerbaijan
16.34656233 Parsi_India
17.29798543 Iran_Bandari
18.33634915 Turk_Southeast
18.41191191 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
18.41790705 Turk_East
18.88137972 Iraqi_Baghdad
19.02821064 Lezgin
Distance: 3.1540% / 3.15402515
Target: Iran_Mazandaran2
40.6 Balochi
23.8 Georgian_Turkey
23.5 Kurd_KAZ
12.1 Georgian_Svan
Again Mazandaran is very odd and interesting. In a way that it has some of the lowest SW Asian, NE and the lowest Atl_Med score. While at the same time the highest Caucasus and Gedrosia averages. Almost like Mazandaran is a Iran_CHL refugium.
Kurds from Iran:
Gedrosian: 24.60
Siberian: 0.94
Northwest_African: 0.69
Southeast_Asian: 0.50
Atlantic_Med: 8.08
North_European: 7.84
South_Asian: 2.68
East_African: 0.40
Southwest_Asian: 14.56
East_Asian: 0.80
Caucasian: 38.94
Sub_Saharan: 0.04
Distance to: Kurd_Iran
1.65208959 Kurd_Kurmanji
2.40964728 Yazidi
2.75243529 Kurd_Sorani
3.44899986 Zaza
4.45614183 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.45734226 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.31698223 Iran_Central
5.42853571 Lur_Iran
5.64417399 Kurd_KAZ
5.78879089 Azerbaijani
6.04573403 Iranian
6.63254853 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.89876076 Iranian_Fars
8.03219771 Turk_Southeast
8.64363928 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.72097732 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.83524784 Iran_C_East
10.22813766 Turk_East
10.63411021 Iran_Khorasan
11.23298268 Iran_Mazandaran
11.33238280 Turk_Central_East
11.73445781 Mandean
11.79381618 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.32558315 Turk_South
12.36706918 Azeri_Jew
Distance: 1.3647% / 1.36469372
Target: Kurd_Iran | ADC: 1x RC
72.0 Kurd_Kurmanji
28.0 Kurd_Sorani
No surprise there that the top 4 closest pops for Iran_Kurd are basically Kurdish groups (Kurmanj, Soran, Zaza, Yezidi)
Sidenote why are Kurmanj, Soran labeled as Kurd but the same is not done with the Zaza and Yezidi (who speak Kurmanj)? Who made that decision?
Javid
01-05-2021, 06:56 PM
Here are the averages for Azerbaijanis as well as for the other Turkic people taken from Turkish / Azerbaijan-Turkic DNA projects.
As we can see here, the Republic Azeris are very heterogeneous bunch, and quite often closer to the Caucasus people rather than Iranian Azeris. Comparatively speaking the number of tests from the northern part of the Republic is low, so I expect this difference will be even more accentuated as the number of tests increase.
Azerbaijani_Dagestan and Azerbaijani_Qakh are clear standouts when it comes to NE components. It is probably true that almost all of the northern regions of the Republic, such as Quba, Qusar, Khachmaz, Ismayilli, Shaki etc., belong to these groups, which is a huge number. They also do not cluster with Iranian Azerbaijanis.
Another standout is Azerbaijani_North_West which has a very high east Asian component. They cluster closer to Turks from eastern parts of Turkey.
Another moment to point out is that there are close to 100,000 Meskheti Turks in the republic. I expect assimilation of those will also change the composition in the long-run.
105057
https://i.imgur.com/HGkYGno.png
We can barely see any difference between Azerbaijani_Iran and Azerbijanu Republic averages but you are saying that Republic Azerbaijanis are much closer to Caucasian people rather than Iranian Azerbaijanis.
Additionally most of the regions you mentioned here (except Shaki) are populated by other ethnic groups, not Azerbaijanis: Lezgins — in Qusar, Quba and Khachmaz; Avars, Tsakhurs, Ingilois and many others — in Balakan, Zagatala and Gakh; Malakans (Slavic) — in Ismailli. That's the reason why there's very few tests from that region.
I don't know if you know about the history of Azerbaijan but I have to say that turkic people of Azerbaijan Republic mostly came from either from Iranian Azerbaijan or Anatolia (North West region mainly). So I think it's impossible to say that Azerbaijanis in Republic is closer to Caucasian people rather than Iranian Azerbaijanis.
Sterling Archer
01-05-2021, 08:31 PM
We can barely see any difference between Azerbaijani_Iran and Azerbijanu Republic averages but you are saying that Republic Azerbaijanis are much closer to Caucasian people rather than Iranian Azerbaijanis.
Additionally most of the regions you mentioned here (except Shaki) are populated by other ethnic groups, not Azerbaijanis: Lezgins — in Qusar, Quba and Khachmaz; Avars, Tsakhurs, Ingilois and many others — in Balakan, Zagatala and Gakh; Malakans (Slavic) — in Ismailli. That's the reason why there's very few tests from that region.
My point was to show the diversity. To show that there is a great deal of heterogeneity (not everything as clear cut as you suggest), and that northern parts are have not been tested enough. They constitute a substantial part of the population, and are predominantly Azerbaijani.
As for the northern regions we have:
Qusar - yes, majority Lezgin, but has some Azerbaijani villages.
Quba - not that many Lezgins in comparison, predominately tats that have been assimilated by now. I would know, I am from Quba.
Khachmaz - predominantly Azeri, with substantial Lezgin population.
Ismailli - Molokans in here are mainly concentrated in Ivanovak, which only has 3000 people. In total, the Russians constitute negligible part of the population of Ismayilli. The rest is Azerbaijani plus Lezgin, which are going full assimilation.
Qax, Balakan etc. - you are clearly underestimating speed with which the assimilation has advanced. This regions have long ago became predominantly Azeri.
Then there is Sheki, Shamaki, Oguz, Siyazan, Shabran. And you are telling me this does not count? :D
I don't know if you know about the history of Azerbaijan but I have to say that turkic people of Azerbaijan Republic mostly came from either from Iranian Azerbaijan or Anatolia (North West region mainly). So I think it's impossible to say that Azerbaijanis in Republic is closer to Caucasian people rather than Iranian Azerbaijanis.
There is no clear consensus on ethnogenesis of Azerbaijanis. Hence the substantial difference between different sub-populations. There was a PCA plot somewhere which shows this clearly. Yes, some sub-populations such as southern regions, Karabakh are very close to Iranian Azerbaijanis (notice importance of geographic proximity), while the northern regions (+ Derbend) clearly differ. These northern regions are not as small as you trying to portray them. Assimilation that has been ongoing for centuries had changed the region's ethnic composition.
Sterling Archer
01-05-2021, 08:34 PM
I don't know if you know about the history of Azerbaijan
I have attended classes of Azerbaijani history, and no offense, they are chock full of fallacies. So much revisionism of history, attempts to Turkify almost everything that I can't take it seriously, neither should you.
Javid
01-05-2021, 09:27 PM
My point was to show the diversity. To show that there is a great deal of heterogeneity (not everything as clear cut as you suggest), and that northern parts are have not been tested enough. They constitute a substantial part of the population, and are predominantly Azerbaijani.
As for the northern regions we have:
Qusar - yes, majority Lezgin, but has some Azerbaijani villages.
Quba - not that many Lezgins in comparison, predominately tats that have been assimilated by now. I would know, I am from Quba.
Khachmaz - predominantly Azeri, with substantial Lezgin population.
Ismailli - Molokans in here are mainly concentrated in Ivanovak, which only has 3000 people. In total, the Russians constitute negligible part of the population of Ismayilli. The rest is Azerbaijani plus Lezgin, which are going full assimilation.
Qax, Balakan etc. - you are clearly underestimating speed with which the assimilation has advanced. This regions have long ago became predominantly Azeri.
Then there is Sheki, Shamaki, Oguz, Siyazan, Shabran. And you are telling me this does not count? :D
There is no clear consensus on ethnogenesis of Azerbaijanis. Hence the substantial difference between different sub-populations. There was a PCA plot somewhere which shows this clearly. Yes, some sub-populations such as southern regions, Karabakh are very close to Iranian Azerbaijanis (notice importance of geographic proximity), while the northern regions (+ Derbend) clearly differ. These northern regions are not as small as you trying to portray them. Assimilation that has been ongoing for centuries had changed the region's ethnic composition.
I just wrote some of the ethnic groups in these regions, of course there are many others. One thing is clear that Azerbaijani turks are not majority in: Qusar, Quba, Balakan, Qakh, Zagatala and not surprisingly in those regions NE is very high. Turks of those places are very few and they probably are assimilated lezgins, avars and etc and they.
Other regions that you have mentioned (Shaki, Oghuz, Qabala, Siyazan and Shamakhy) here have Turkic majority and again not surprisingly they have normal NE for Azerbaijanis around 9%, 10% and sometimes 11%. Ismailly can be a bit different because there are significant Molokan and Lezgin population there.
I'm not saying Nothern part are small or something. I'm just saying that most of the Northern region are populated by other ethnic groups. Azerbaijanis of those places are very few and they are mostly assimilated Caucasians.
Any other region (not only Karabakh) has nearly the same averages with Iranian Azerbaijan despite the 200 years of separation.
Sterling Archer
01-05-2021, 09:43 PM
I just wrote some of the ethnic groups in these regions, of course there are many others. One thing is clear that Azerbaijani turks are not majority in: Qusar, Quba, Balakan, Qakh, Zagatala and not surprisingly in those regions NE is very high. Turks of those places are very few and they probably are assimilated lezgins, avars and etc and they.
I'm not saying Nothern part are small or something. I'm just saying that most of the Northern region are populated by other ethnic groups. Azerbaijanis of those places are very few and they are mostly assimilated Caucasians.
Azeris are majority in Quba, Khachmaz, Balakan, Qakh and Zaqatala, only exception being Qusar. This is a fact. I have not seen any other statistics contrary to this and I don't know where you take your data. What Azeris have assimilated here is irrelevant (by that logic, Azeris in the south probably have assimilated talysh, kurd etc. Do we disregard them?), the result is that they are Azeris, just like in Derbent, Tabriz, Kars, Kalbajar (had major Kurdish populations), Lachin (again, used to have big Kurdish).
So, you can't disregard the Northern regions, as they are majority Azeri and should be further studied.
Other regions that you have mentioned (Shaki, Oghuz, Qabala, Siyazan and Shamakhy) here have Turkic majority and again not surprisingly they have normal NE for Azerbaijanis around 9%, 10% and sometimes 11%. Ismailly can be a bit different because there are significant Molokan and Lezgin population there.
Few results from this regions suggest NE>10% usually. They are close to Azerbaijani_Dagestan rather than Azerbaijani_Iran.
Any other region (not only Karabakh) has nearly the same averages with Iranian Azerbaijan despite the 200 years of separation.
That is why I mentioned geographic proximity, it is key here. I'm not denying that say Karabakh Azeris are close to Iranian Azeris. What I'm trying to stress is that there is a very big potion of the country that is not accounted for. Contrary to what you are incorrectly saying, they should be accounted for. For example, not that many results from Quba. One Azerbaijani from Quba that I know scored NE=16% (or 18%). And that whole region is missing. More tests will surely show the differences between different population clusters.
This is not a bad thing :)
Lucas
01-05-2021, 10:40 PM
Made new averages for Persians that are not represented by the current averages, not saying they should be used but I still can show them here:
Central Iran:
https://i.imgur.com/WwrvXZs.png
Gedrosian: 27.04
Siberian: 0.96
Northwest_African: 0.37
Southeast_Asian: 0.64
Atlantic_Med: 6.16
North_European: 7.35
South_Asian: 5.77
East_African: 0.78
Southwest_Asian: 12.87
East_Asian: 0.66
Caucasian: 36.64
Sub_Saharan: 0.68
Distance to: Iran_Central
2.89205809 Iranian_Fars
4.67301830 Yazidi
5.03705271 Lur_Iran
5.07377571 Iran_C_East
5.09387868 Iranian
5.39392251 Kurd_Sorani
6.10942714 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.26991228 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.57186427 Iran_Khorasan
7.36805945 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.66835054 Kurd_KAZ
7.70552399 Zaza
8.30219248 Iran_Mazandaran
8.69313522 Azerbaijani
9.73280021 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.50502934 Turk_Southeast
12.42142504 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.64367035 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.64558816 Iraqi_Baghdad
13.61564174 Parsi_India
14.39660029 Turk_East
14.72497199 Iran_Arab
14.90382501 Turk_Central_East
15.16603112 Turk_South
15.41227433 Mandean
Distance: 1.6382% / 1.63821927
Target: Iran_Central | ADC: 1x RC
70.0 Iranian_Fars
24.1 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.6 Iranian
1.3 Kurd_Iran
Muslim Persians from Southeast (Kerman & Yazd):
https://i.imgur.com/W4xX2cJ.jpg
Gedrosian: 29.71
Siberian: 0.99
Northwest_African: 0.30
Southeast_Asian: 0.21
Atlantic_Med: 6.09
North_European: 8.31
South_Asian: 7.60
East_African: 0.85
Southwest_Asian: 12.19
East_Asian: 0.34
Caucasian: 32.96
Sub_Saharan: 0.49
Distance to: Iran_C_East
4.10665314 Iran_Khorasan
4.58541165 Iranian_Fars
5.07377571 Iran_Central
8.86715287 Iranian
9.02535872 Yazidi
9.03735028 Lur_Iran
9.55405673 Iran_Mazandaran
9.88406799 Kurd_Sorani
10.38632274 Parsi_India
10.72913324 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.00971389 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.61917811 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.05926200 Kurd_KAZ
12.29972764 Iran_Bandari
12.49279392 Zaza
12.51648513 Azerbaijani
13.86884999 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.07807160 Tajik_Herat
14.55548694 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.19324521 Turk_Southeast
16.25764128 Iraqi_Baghdad
17.30855858 Udi_Azerbaijan
17.33499351 Iran_Arab
17.62101019 Lezgin
18.25069588 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
Distance: 1.5069% / 1.50690106
Target: Iran_C_East | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.8 Iranian_Fars
15.4 Iran_Mazandaran
14.0 Yagnobi
12.8 Parsi_India
3.0 Balochi
Distance: 2.8652% / 2.86522605
Target: Iran_C_East | ADC: 1x RC
54.9 Iran_Khorasan
45.1 Iranian_Fars
Iranians from Khorasan (this one should replace the old average):
https://i.imgur.com/94UDcvg.jpg
Gedrosian: 28.01
Siberian: 1.89
Northwest_African: 0.34
Southeast_Asian: 0.29
Atlantic_Med: 6.34
North_European: 9.65
South_Asian: 7.63
East_African: 0.44
Southwest_Asian: 10.14
East_Asian: 2.84
Caucasian: 32.17
Sub_Saharan: 0.26
Distance to: Iran_Khorasan
4.10665314 Iran_C_East
6.52196289 Iranian_Fars
10.23406566 Yazidi
10.38528767 Iranian
10.63411021 Kurd_Iran
10.89079887 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.00347672 Lur_Iran
11.21455305 Kurd_Sorani
11.29245323 Parsi_India
11.34193987 Azerbaijani
11.43593896 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.64028350 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.65305968 Iran_Mazandaran
12.09814449 Tajik_Herat
12.77682277 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.16070667 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.16269349 Zaza
13.53295976 Kurd_KAZ
13.57530478 Iran_Bandari
14.14508042 Turk_Southeast
15.30758962 Turkmen_Iran
16.04966666 Lezgin
16.37283421 Turk_South
16.55549758 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
17.04088613 Yagnobi
Distance: 1.5852% / 1.58516407
Target: Iran_Khorasan | ADC: 0.5x RC
79.6 Iran_C_East
16.5 Turkmen_Iran
3.9 Tajik_Tajikistan
Distance: 1.6577% / 1.65766470
Target: Iran_Khorasan | ADC: 1x RC
80.2 Iran_C_East
19.8 Turkmen_Iran
New improved Mazandaran average (should replace old average):
Gedrosian: 33.07
Siberian: 0.48
Northwest_African: 0.25
Southeast_Asian: 0.26
Atlantic_Med: 2.86
North_European: 5.68
South_Asian: 5.27
East_African: 0.32
Southwest_Asian: 10.96
East_Asian: 0.26
Caucasian: 40.38
Sub_Saharan: 0.19
Distance to: Iran_Mazandaran2
5.80141362 Iranian
7.75125151 Lur_Iran
8.37274149 Kurd_KAZ
9.02773504 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.20149988 Iranian_Fars
9.55405673 Iran_C_East
9.98348136 Yazidi
11.23298268 Kurd_Iran
11.38994293 Kurd_Sorani
11.51538536 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.65305968 Iran_Khorasan
11.79963983 Zaza
13.38943987 Azerbaijani_Iran
15.00246646 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.12987773 Azerbaijani
15.32309368 Azerbaijani_Turkey
15.53476102 Udi_Azerbaijan
16.34656233 Parsi_India
17.29798543 Iran_Bandari
18.33634915 Turk_Southeast
18.41191191 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
18.41790705 Turk_East
18.88137972 Iraqi_Baghdad
19.02821064 Lezgin
Distance: 3.1540% / 3.15402515
Target: Iran_Mazandaran2
40.6 Balochi
23.8 Georgian_Turkey
23.5 Kurd_KAZ
12.1 Georgian_Svan
Kurds from Iran:
Gedrosian: 24.60
Siberian: 0.94
Northwest_African: 0.69
Southeast_Asian: 0.50
Atlantic_Med: 8.08
North_European: 7.84
South_Asian: 2.68
East_African: 0.40
Southwest_Asian: 14.56
East_Asian: 0.80
Caucasian: 38.94
Sub_Saharan: 0.04
Distance to: Kurd_Iran
1.65208959 Kurd_Kurmanji
2.40964728 Yazidi
2.75243529 Kurd_Sorani
3.44899986 Zaza
4.45614183 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.45734226 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.31698223 Iran_Central
5.42853571 Lur_Iran
5.64417399 Kurd_KAZ
5.78879089 Azerbaijani
6.04573403 Iranian
6.63254853 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.89876076 Iranian_Fars
8.03219771 Turk_Southeast
8.64363928 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.72097732 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.83524784 Iran_C_East
10.22813766 Turk_East
10.63411021 Iran_Khorasan
11.23298268 Iran_Mazandaran
11.33238280 Turk_Central_East
11.73445781 Mandean
11.79381618 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.32558315 Turk_South
12.36706918 Azeri_Jew
Distance: 1.3647% / 1.36469372
Target: Kurd_Iran | ADC: 1x RC
72.0 Kurd_Kurmanji
28.0 Kurd_Sorani
Improved Fars province average:
Gedrosian: 27.21
Siberian: 1.00
Northwest_African: 1.37
Southeast_Asian: 0.70
Atlantic_Med: 5.81
North_European: 6.19
South_Asian: 5.89
East_African: 1.22
Southwest_Asian: 14.47
East_Asian: 0.87
Caucasus: 33.94
Sub_Saharan: 0.31
Distance to: Iran_Fars
0.68934752 Iranian_Fars
2.88811357 Iran_Central
4.97001006 Iran_C_East
5.38177480 Lur_Iran
5.58930228 Yazidi
5.64317287 Kurd_Sorani
6.50045383 Kurd_Iran
6.74175051 Iranian
6.98962088 Iran_Khorasan
7.36853445 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.13327732 Iran_Khorasan
8.16488824 Iran_Mazandaran
8.24952120 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.70171822 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.10903947 Kurd_KAZ
9.27239451 Zaza
9.40825170 Iran_Mazandaran2
9.99158646 Azerbaijani
11.27565519 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.81747435 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.27140986 Turk_Southeast
12.52094645 Parsi_India
13.19649196 Iran_Arab
14.52511618 Udi_Azerbaijan
Distance: 1.0573% / 1.05729791
Target: Iran_Fars | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.6 Iran_C_East
27.4 Lur_Iran
16.1 Iran_Arab
3.9 Iran_Central
All new averages:
Iran_Khorasan,28.01,1.89,0.34,0.29,6.34,9.65,7.63, 0.44,10.14,2.84,32.17,0.26
Iran_C_East,29.71,0.99,0.30,0.21,6.09,8.31,7.60,0. 85,12.19,0.34,32.96,0.49
Iran_Central,27.04,0.96,0.37,0.64,6.16,7.35,5.77,0 .78,12.87,0.66,36.64,0.68
Iran_Mazandaran2,33.07,0.48,0.25,0.26,2.86,5.68,5. 27,0.32,10.96,0.26,40.38,0.19
Kurd_Iran,24.60,0.94,0.69,0.50,8.08,7.84,2.68,0.40 ,14.56,0.80,38.94,0.04
Iran_Fars,27.21,1.00,1.37,0.70,5.81,6.19,5.89,1.22 ,14.47,0.87,34.94,0.31
Hey what is the difference between them and those posted by you in Vahaduo general thread? Add those remainign too Central, East, Fars?
Hey what is the difference between them and those posted by you in Vahaduo general thread? Add those remainign too Central, East, Fars?
Please finish deleting the obsolete/wrong pops. I will be splitting Tajik_Tajikistan into Lowland and Mountain as it was in the Balanovsky study (Hisor and Kulob = lowland, Ayni = mountain).
"Tajiks" and "Tajik_Balkh" are not needed and "Turkmen_Iran" has a duplicate.
Hey what is the difference between them and those posted by you in Vahaduo general thread? Add those remainign too Central, East, Fars?
Hey Lucas not that I care much about Vahaduo but these 2 clowns (Leto and Kyp) are trying to make you an accomplice in their manipulation of Kurdish averages. I 1st became suspicious of them when they removed the Dodecad K12 calculator creators Kurdish averages which are listed at Gedmatch.
Neither one of the two are kurds or have any Kurdish DNA blogs so they really don't have any business playing with Kurdish averages.
In fact if you check the KurdishDNA blogspot at http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/search?q=dodecad
you'll see Dodecad K12 screen shots of about 20 Kurdish DNA project members which include 9 Sorani Kurds and 3 Feyli Kurds. For example if you check the Sorani and Feyli averages are close to the Dodecad K12 calculator creator's averages shown below and not what those clowns have had you put into Vahaduo. Additionally those averages (Kurdish DNA project) agree with the Iraqi kurd averages too.
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Population
Gedrosia
Siberian
Northwest_African
Southeast_Asian
Atlantic_Med
North_European
South_Asian
East_African
Southwest_Asian
East_Asian
Caucasus
Sub_Saharan
Kurd
28.7
1.5
0.9
0.4
5.9
5.7
1.1
0.4
14
1
40.4
0
Kurds
28.2
0.6
0
0.6
6.3
6.7
0.8
0.1
14.3
0.2
42.2
0
</tbody>
Also they have no authority to declare what Iranian Kurdish averages are without proof such as from the authors. In fact, I did take the time to investigate and found about 7 or 8 that are genetically kurds based on formal stats, IBD and other means and those averages don't agree with what they are feeding you.
You can do whatever you want but IMO to maintain some credibility for yourself I would keep whatever averages where included by the Dodecad K12 calculator creator and wait until the authors supply info on who is Kurd and who is not.
I would also require solid evidence from people claiming that an average is off or purporting they have the correct average and not just take their word for it.:)
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Um, excuse me but I have only added one Kurdish average - Kurd_KAZ and I now think it can be deleted. Kurmanji and Sorani are from a spreadsheet compiled a few years ago by a Turk who posts on Anthrogenica. Neither I nor Kyp had a hand in that. IMO they look okay.
@Zoro, I do think you should leave this forum. Or at the very least leave this particular thread and don't come back.
Hey what is the difference between them and those posted by you in Vahaduo general thread? Add those remainign too Central, East, Fars?
Don't need to add them otherwise we would have too many Iranian averages. Please delete one of the "Turkmen_Iran" duplicates btw.
@Zoro I only created Yazidi average, the "Kurd_Iran" shouldn't be added (as I said), they are just based on the samples from the Iranian study YOU YOURSELF suspected as the Kurdish samples. But since we can't be 100% sure all of them are Kurds we shouldn't add it.
Demhat
01-06-2021, 03:24 PM
Don't need to add them otherwise we would have too many Iranian averages. Please delete one of the "Turkmen_Iran" duplicates btw.
@Zoro I only created Yazidi average, the "Kurd_Iran" shouldn't be added (as I said), they are just based on the samples from the Iranian study YOU YOURSELF suspected as the Kurdish samples. But since we can't be 100% sure all of them are Kurds we shouldn't add it.
So why did you call the Yezidi average just Yezidi ? and not Yezidi_Kurd as I see people making even averages like Altaien_Turk or calling Iranian Azeri averages, Iran_Azerbaijani?
And who made the Zaza average? If you guys meant it in the way to distinguish the Kurdish subgroups fine but why than call the Soran and Kurmanj averages Kurd in the naming?
So why did you call the Yezidi average just Yezidi ? and not Yezidi_Kurd as I see people making even averages like Altaien_Turk or calling Iranian Azeri averages, Iran_Azerbaijani?
And who made the Zaza average? If you guys meant it in the way to distinguish the Kurdish subgroups fine but why than call the Soran and Kurmanj averages Kurd in the naming?
I wasn't sure in what ways Yezidis identify as Kurds. It wasn't deliberate. The country would only be added if you seperate the averages for example Yezidis from Turkey and Yezidis from Iraq. That's why there is Azerbaijani and Azerbaijan_Turkey, Azerbaijani_Iran for example.
I wasn't sure in what ways Yezidis identify as Kurds. It wasn't deliberate. The country would only be added if you seperate the averages for example Yezidis from Turkey and Yezidis from Iraq. That's why there is Azerbaijani and Azerbaijan_Turkey, Azerbaijani_Iran for example.
Balanovsky has Yazidis from Armenia. Would be interesting to check them. The only notable minority in that incredibly homogeneous republic.
Demhat
01-06-2021, 03:39 PM
I wasn't sure in what ways Yezidis identify as Kurds. It wasn't deliberate. The country would only be added if you seperate the averages for example Yezidis from Turkey and Yezidis from Iraq. That's why there is Azerbaijani and Azerbaijan_Turkey, Azerbaijani_Iran for example.
Azerbaijani would indicate coming from Azerbaijan. They are called Azeri in Iran. A few Yezidis or Zaza that identifiy as something else doesn't change the general view. As you also have some Kurmanji speakers who do so.
I also know a number of Azeris from Iran that identify as Persian so that is not really an argument my friend. Fixing it shouldn't be a hard task so?
Azerbaijani would indicate coming from Azerbaijan. They are called Azeri in Iran. A few Yezidis or Zaza that identifiy as something else doesn't change the general view. As you also have some Kurmanji speakers who do so.
I also know a number of Azeris from Iran that identify as Persian so that is not really an argument my friend. Fixing it shouldn't be a hard task so?
Wrong, they were called "Tork" in Iran. Only since recently "Azeri" gets used. Also Azerbaijani doesn't indicate from Azerbaijan republic at all.
How about changing it yourself? I'm not some type of gatekeeper of the Dodecad spreadsheet.
Demhat
01-06-2021, 03:59 PM
Wrong, they were called "Tork" in Iran. Only since recently "Azeri" gets used.
How about changing it yourself? I'm not some type of gatekeeper of the Dodecad spreadsheet.
What they are called is one thing what they call themselves is another. Also as I pointed out Azerbaijani indicates ancestry from Azerbaijan.
How can I change it myself? If the reference pops used in the calculator are named like this.
What they are called is one thing what they call themselves is another. How can I change it myself?
They always called themselves "Turk" too as it's a linguistic classification primarily. Maybe since there is a country named Turkey this term gets avoided more to remain Iranian integrity.
PM @Lucas he manages the spreadsheets. But stick to academically established classifications.
Demhat
01-06-2021, 04:09 PM
They always called themselves "Turk" too. Maybe since there is a country named Turkey this term gets avoided more to remain Iranian integrity.
PM @Lucas he manages the spreadsheets.
I don't know about that but since at least the Pahlavi Dynasty allot of them do consider themselves Persian. And the exact same argument can be used with the Yezidi and Zaza some few confused souls started doing so since the 80-90s but it didn't seem to hinder you to add them without the Kurd suffix.
Is it the same Lucas who is also active here on Apricity? But then aren't you the guy who added the references? So isn't it easier if you asked him to change the naming? Maybe he won't listen to me.
The Yazidis are a very closed community, they never mix with Muslims or Christians, be they Kurdish or non-Kurdish because if they do, they will be excluded from the community.
Demhat
01-06-2021, 04:15 PM
The Yazidis are a very closed community, they never mix with Muslims or Christians, be they Kurdish or non-Kurdish because if they do, they will be excluded from the community.
Let Kyp answer for himself. That still doesn't change there ethnic origin does it? They are genetically, culturally, linguistically clearly Kurds. Amish people also don't mix or marry outside of their community that still doesn't make them anything else but White Americans. Your argument is invalid.
I don't know about that but since at least the Pahlavi Dynasty allot of them do consider themselves Persian. And the exact same argument can be used with the Yezidi and Zaza some few confused souls started doing so since the 80-90s but it didn't seem to hinder you to add them without the Kurd suffix.
Is it the same Lucas who is also active here on Apricity? But then aren't you the guy who added the references? So isn't it easier if you asked him to change the naming? Maybe he won't listen to me.
Actually I mostly go with western academic classifcations. "Azerbaijani" is a recognized ethnicity nowadays. Everything else is political (to me personally). So I urge you to stick to estbalished academic facts to remain the universal character of the list. For example origin of Zazas is not 100% established as Kurdish, I would stick to "Zaza" in this case.
If I would ask my grandmother what ethnicity she is, she would answer "Turk" like 95% of old Azerbaijani people. Now this doesn't mean she doesn't consider herself Iranian too, have you understand? Saying Azerbaijanis are Persian is political in the same way like saying Azerbaijanis are not Iranian because they speak Turkish.
Yes the same Lucas. You can post your demands in this thread (like other members, not only me) or PM him
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?310130-NEW!-All-Gedmatch-calculators-on-Vahaduo-ON-LINE
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