TheApricity YDNA 2021 Poll

[Jana]

Wondering about ydna distribution among currently present TA members. Old poll is obsolete and some hg's labels are now outdated.

Vote, state your ydna and subclade if you know it, ethnicity (if mixed ethnicity of your paternal side), girls/women vote for hg of your paternal side if you know it. :)

[Linebacker]

You are either I or you are F (fail).

All other haplogroups might just be called F or L.

[Figaro]

R-M417 (R1a1a1)

Maybe one day I’ll do deep subclade testing. Allegedly, my G G paternal grandfather was from Mecklenburg, Germany, so most likely a West Slavic clade from Polabians.

[Jana]

https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-A5913/

https://i.imgur.com/A3wLjvq.png

My paternal lineage is Bosniak. :)

[Luke35]

N1c.

I did a panel with YSEQ to find my specific subclade, which is N-Y17696.

Paternal line is from Transcarpathia (Hungary).

[PaulieVanZant]

R1b-U106

It`s most common in the Netherlands, I heard. But it`s essentialy the Rhinelands version of R1b.

[Vrazijadivizija]

I-M423
-I-FGC41353
-I-V6473
https://scontent.fzag3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/166964926_487925992578345_7353079646054186462_n.pn g?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=H2F7QEM8jR8AX-BuJEy&_nc_ht=scontent.fzag3-1.fna&oh=8fe04c63be85ed3c4079ffe446c7a97b&oe=6088686E

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

R1b-L21 > DF13 > S1051 > FGC17906 > FGC17907 > FGC17866

[Defcon2]

Wondering about ydna distribution among currently present TA members. Old poll is obsolete and some hg's labels are now outdated.

Vote, state your ydna and subclade if you know it, ethnicity (if mixed ethnicity of your paternal side), girls/women vote for hg of your paternal side if you know it. :)

We could do a kind of project to collect haplogroups and make graphs, something like this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ctFh2wS2E4h3PVSjFTj_HWmBrcEBDO6GkatBsIzB3Mg/edit?usp=sharing

Once we have many and know the origin of each haplogroup, we could start with the maps. It's just an idea. :)

[Jana]

We could do a kind of project to collect haplogroups and make graphs, something like this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ctFh2wS2E4h3PVSjFTj_HWmBrcEBDO6GkatBsIzB3Mg/edit?usp=sharing

Once we have many and know the origin of each haplogroup, we could start with the maps. It's just an idea. :)

Cool idea! I (or anyone else) could collect data yeah! :P

[Alenka]

R-CTS3402 is my father's Y-DNA.

[Kyp]

R-Z2122 (eastern branch of R1a)

[CommonSense]

It's in my profile description.

[hmaohma78]

Q-M3
Subclade Q-CTS748

[J. Ketch]

R1b-L21 (British/Irish Bell Beaker) > M222 > DF109. Irish paternal line with a Gaelic surname, rooted in the boggy heart of Ireland since time immemorial.

[Rædwald]

I-L233 very uncommon in British Isles 1-5% I believe.

My Paternal line goes back to Normandy.

[Dick]

here's the website;

https://phylogeographer.com/snp-lookup/

https://i.imgur.com/jwQRqDd.jpg

[Dr_Maul]

Y-DNA: J2-L283
Origins: founders of all great Civilization (J2 global empire)

[RatCat]

G-L1266 confirmed. Most likely G-L1264 subclade of it.

https://i.imgur.com/h0Dbsck.png

[Dick]

R-CTS3402 is my father's Y-DNA.

Very cool. Congrats

https://phylogeographer.com/mygrations/?hg=R1a&clade=R-CTS3402

[Andullero]

R-U152

[gixajo]

R1a-Z282>Z91/Z280>YP5000 :picard1:

https://i.imgur.com/HSKC6Qu.png

https://phylogeographer.com/scripts/heatmap.php

https://i.imgur.com/Pa23dUL.png

[Alexandro]

Q-M3
Subclade Q-CTS748

That is interesting, how common is it for Mexicans to have a native paternal haplogroup?

Answering the OP question - I am probably R, but could also likely be E or J, etc....won't know until I get tested, which I'll likely do soon. I will come back and vote on this when I have my results :D

[gixajo]

That is interesting, how common is it for Mexicans to have a native paternal haplogroup?

Answering the OP question - I am probably R, but could also likely be E or J, etc....won't know until I get tested, which I'll likely do soon. I will come back and vote on this when I have my results :D

Maybe you are R1a...

[PaleoEuropean]

I2 Motala-oid.

[PaleoEuropean]

That is interesting, how common is it for Mexicans to have a native paternal haplogroup?

Answering the OP question - I am probably R, but could also likely be E or J, etc....won't know until I get tested, which I'll likely do soon. I will come back and vote on this when I have my results :D

If you have an ADNA kit just use Morely's predictor. Just as good as 23's.

[PaleoEuropean]

Very cool. Congrats

https://phylogeographer.com/mygrations/?hg=R1a&clade=R-CTS3402

Its funny how my haplo is generally Slavic and yours is generally Northern but I am Northern and you are Slavic xD.

[Impaler]

J2-M67. I don't know my subclade.

[hmaohma78]

That is interesting, how common is it for Mexicans to have a native paternal haplogroup?

Answering the OP question - I am probably R, but could also likely be E or J, etc....won't know until I get tested, which I'll likely do soon. I will come back and vote on this when I have my results :D

It's a minority
Based on my 23 and me relatives it seems to be around 10-16% of amerindian origin.

[Dick]

Its funny how my haplo is generally Slavic and yours is generally Northern but I am Northern and you are Slavic xD.

Shit happens

[cakmir7y]

According to Morley DNA predictor I am E-CTS1273

[VarangianRUs]

106704


Mine is I1-S9318 i did test with yseq but now i want to upgrade to big y700 to get more subranch
This ydna is very dominant in Sweden Finland and Ireland (british isles)

[Vojnik]

Why are the smartest people in this forum haplogroup I? Like me for instance? And best looking.............

[noricum]

R1a Z282 > Z280 > CTS1211 > YP340 > YP371 > YP380-x


<a href='https://postimages.org/' target='_blank'><img src='https://i.postimg.cc/SR0WWBmX/yp380.jpg' border='0' alt='yp380'/></a>

<a href='https://postimages.org/' target='_blank'><img src='https://i.postimg.cc/D0XSZyDW/yp380-2.jpg' border='0' alt='yp380-2'/></a>

[Kökény]

R-CTS3402 is my father's Y-DNA.
Same here. :)

[frankhammer]

R-Z7, a branch of U106

[Mopi The Dire Wolf]

my Y-DNA: R-DF27 (R1b1a2a1a2a) R-Y3267
ethnicity of father: Spanish (Castilian)

[Ion Basescul]

Romanian (also known as Moldovan, since I am from Moldova)
I-M423 > I-CTS10228 > I-S17250 > I-PH908*
I am negative for all the sub-branches of PH908 that I've tested so far. It is possible that my family forms a sub-branch that is specific to Moldova. At some point, I will have to take BigY.

https://i.ibb.co/rMxgyNB/image.png

[Thracian]

R-CTS3402.

[IndoEuropeanR1b]

R1b-DF13, paternal line could be traced to West Midlands, England.

[Dunai]

According to MorleyDNA most likely my Y-DAN is R1a1a, and under it R1a-L168 appears, so I assume L168 is the R1a1a variant I have. Can anyone help me from which geographic location and from which population this originates since I couldn't really find any specific information about it?

[Kaspias]

Q-L54 -> Q-L330 -> Q-YP771 -> Q-BZ180 -> Q-F16045 (https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/Q-F16045/)

https://i.ibb.co/tK6SV9S/BZ180.png

[Mortimer]

E V13

[michal3141]

R1a-Y23110

[Token]

According to MorleyDNA most likely my Y-DAN is R1a1a, and under it R1a-L168 appears, so I assume L168 is the R1a1a variant I have. Can anyone help me from which geographic location and from which population this originates since I couldn't really find any specific information about it?

R1a1a is generic R1a, L168 is just a defining SNP of R1a1a. At this point your R1a can be anything from Iranic to Slavic or Germanic. You probably carry an Eastern European variety but only further testing will tell you for sure.

[Token]

I am R1a-L664, which peaks in the North Sea area.

[Gergő Marosvári]

The "Polish Hungarian" is here... :)

I am R1a-L260.

One day i am planning to do a paternal test to know the further subclade.

[TheMaestro]

E V13

Already forgot you have N-word pass.

[Dunai]

R1a1a is generic R1a, L168 is just a defining SNP of R1a1a. At this point your R1a can be anything from Iranic to Slavic or Germanic. You probably carry an Eastern European variety but only further testing will tell you for sure.

So basically general Proto-Indo-European?

[Token]

So basically general Proto-Indo-European?

Yes.

https://images.ctfassets.net/cnu0m8re1exe/49YLpo3GTWjMJUJmNkUEBM/f878c4702533ef4ba93487c2ef294965/800px-R1a1a_distribution.jpg?w=650&h=433&fit=fill

[Grace O'Malley]

Paternal is R1b-S588 which is under M222. Sligo/North Roscommon, Ireland

[Shubotai]

R-CTS3402(xL365, Y2910) it is from the slavic tribe of Belegezites in Thessaly, ethnicity is Greek

[Geni]

R1b
R-PH544

[Dušan]

This one.

https://www.poreklo.rs/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/haplogrupa-I2-Y3120.jpg

[Rethel]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106709&d=1617209909


























106709

[Kriptc06]

E-V13
(Z5018+)


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3f/88/3d/3f883d80f48a3bdeb2078afc47f0d7eb.png

[Damião de Góis]

R1b > DF27 > Z225 > Y12470 > CTS9952

http://r1b-df27.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/R1b-migration-map.jpg

[Teutonski]

Me,Readwald and Paleo sorrounded by balkanbros

[Luke35]

N1c.

I did a panel with YSEQ to find my specific subclade, which is N-Y17696.

Paternal line is from Transcarpathia (Hungary).

Here is my peeps, a lot of Slavic speakers:

https://i.imgur.com/Pip8l2S.png



I also found this post on Eupedia from a guy of Polish descent, his family roots are regionally very close to mine, same subclade:

My interest is somewhat selfish as a N1C1-L550-M2783-L551-N-Y17696 male whose ancestral line traces back to the Lvov/Lviw area in the far SE.Poland/W.Ukraine region for a least 400 years. I'd be fascinated to hear peoples opinions on whether this state of affairs is most likely due to those ancestors having remained stationary while the different nation states sprang up and fluctuated around them, whether it might have been due to mass migrations in historical times or even earlier related to known events....

[Jana]

I-L233 very uncommon in British Isles 1-5% I believe.

My Paternal line goes back to Normandy.

It's almost exclusively British Isles type of I2 (also called "western" if I'm not mistaken) but rare in general population indeed. Really cool and unique hg!

[Jana]

Here is my peeps, a lot of Slavic speakers:

https://i.imgur.com/Pip8l2S.png

I also found this post on Eupedia from a guy of Polish descent, his family roots are regionally very close to mine, same subclade:

My interest is somewhat selfish as a N1C1-L550-M2783-L551-N-Y17696 male whose ancestral line traces back to the Lvov/Lviw area in the far SE.Poland/W.Ukraine region for a least 400 years. I'd be fascinated to hear peoples opinions on whether this state of affairs is most likely due to those ancestors having remained stationary while the different nation states sprang up and fluctuated around them, whether it might have been due to mass migrations in historical times or even earlier related to known events....

Very interesting situation, generally Finno-Ugric ydna but mainly Slavic subclade! :P

[Jana]

Its funny how my haplo is generally Slavic and yours is generally Northern but I am Northern and you are Slavic xD.

You are probably celto-germanic branch under M423. :)

[Jaromir]

r1a is better than r1b, please separate Cain and Abel

[Geni]

r1a is better than r1b, please separate Cain and Abel

:mocking: we are the best

[Jaromir]

:mocking: we are the best

lol, you live in bad climate condition with no Chernozem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernozem), the weather is going crazy and soon (even now) you will lose all

[Geni]

Man you have Cernobil :p

[IndoEuropeanR1b]

r1a is better than r1b, please separate Cain and Abel

Not true.

[Teutonski]

I like carriers of all haplos except R1 tbh

[Luso]

R1b > DF27 > Z225 > Y12470 > CTS9952

http://r1b-df27.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/R1b-migration-map.jpg

I'm curious bc I'm also Z225, what did you do for a more specific clade?

[mitalit]

I am R-Z225, which I think is the most common haplo in Spain, so a bit boring.
In my case it comes from Valladolid.
https://previews.123rf.com/images/meteoropata/meteoropata1702/meteoropata170200660/72499643-valladolid-mapa-espa%C3%B1a-mapa-vectorial-de-la-provincia-alto-mapa-de-vectores-detallados-de-espa%C3%B1a-con-regio.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CLDJcBJPMag/Xj1PDBKHr_I/AAAAAAAB4Xg/d-35xMLXv2kunaNkaSmmSzxsAcZpULqlgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/DSC02078-01.jpeg

[Damião de Góis]

I'm curious bc I'm also Z225, what did you do for a more specific clade?

I did the YSEQ panel.

[Rafael Passoni]

R1b-L2

[Figaro]

R1b-L2

I don’t see too many R1b-L2’s on here. I have a close friend (irl buddy) who is a member here but hasn’t logged on in years. He’s tested since then and is also R1b-L2 (his direct paternal he believes to be Bavarian)

[Erronkari]

R1b U152.

[chinshen]

R1b-L23 here.

[Chaos One]

Dunno how that happened, but I'm a I2a2 | I2-Z162.

[Rethel]

except R1 tbh

Why?
Do you want to become the first addmitted indoeuropean-denier/aryanophobe/antijaphethite of the TA? :laugh:

[Figaro]

Why?
Do you want to become the first addmitted indoeuropean-denier/aryanophobe/antijaphethite of the TA? :laugh:

Proud to have you in the tribe, Rethel.

[IndoEuropeanR1b]

L21, U106, U152, Z284 and L664 built the western society.

[GalenStark]

R-L1029>Y133361-Albanian: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y133361/

The sample with no region is Albanian from Kerçove, Macedonia.

https://i.postimg.cc/rmSdSVsV/Screenshot-20210331-200346-Chrome.jpg

[Luso]

L21, U106, U152, Z284 and L664 built the western society.

don't forget df27

[jfgh676]

I have had G-L1259 on cladefinder. I have researched on it but have no clue to its origins or how it came present in North africa

[Gallop]

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OHLE7abNeaY/XmUz623QdpI/AAAAAAAADI0/x8AI5y-5dhoHlKOHas0ZsbfMXu2z4_N0ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Marzo2020.jpg

My paternal line Ydna is here YF66572

Although it is true that in my paternal family there is an oral tradition that our ancestor dnaY arrived during the Napoleonic occupation in Spain.

We are all Spanish, specifically from Andalusia.
Although it is true that in my paternal family there is an oral tradition that our ancestor dnaY arrived during the Napoleonic occupation in Spain with a French legionnaire who deserted from the troops and stayed in Spain.

So the family oral tradition and the dates coincide with this result in 23anMe and of which there is no proof that it is another ancestor different from the dnaY, it could well be someone of Italian paternal ancestry and mothers of another nationality since his arrival in Spain would have been from 1810-1814 and in those dates according to the result of 23anMe he is not fully Italian.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Va-gPUkPRMU/YDLC1OVgNRI/AAAAAAAAF3A/0n8WyfrAKQoc5mHL06oMeRYpaVmxr5eiQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1335/Italian.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0E5mceOxdDw/YDLCMD1Cw1I/AAAAAAAAF20/gVd5gFlitFoOx0UsUl7S8zmxvWb_fteuQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1273/Pap%25C3%25A1SpanishItalian.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lSOXGNOOYBo/YDLaPp_XTHI/AAAAAAAAF3o/kNt0JoaZaUsFahPGWnWRtRVfXkqXnmL4ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1352/Espa%25C3%25B1olAbuelo.jpeg

And this is the way it is because no one is going to know better than me who I am myself.

[Jana]

I have had G-L1259 on cladefinder. I have researched on it but have no clue to its origins or how it came present in North africa

G is generally Anatolian(European) neolithic marker. :)

[alexmegas777]

J2-M92

[RatCat]

I have had G-L1259 on cladefinder. I have researched on it but have no clue to its origins or how it came present in North africa

You have probably G-Z5856 subclade under it. But we can not know the exact subclade unless you test it of course, it's just a guess.

https://i.hizliresim.com/pHXfoG.png

[SUPREEEEEME]

J-L70, which is most likely Levantine

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?18818-Jews-and-J-L70

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?19736-J-L70-Presence-in-the-Middle-East-North-Africa

https://yfull.com/tree/J-L70/

[Longbowman]

My dad is Ashkenazi from Galicia (now Ukraine) and my YDNA is E-M123, specifically the subclade E-FT333743, of which I was the first person typed.

Probably goes back to at least the Natufians in northern Israel, 12,000 years ago.

[Armatus]

I2a-P37>CTS595>L158>L160>PF4088>Y2177>BY78466

Originally a WHG lineage that mixed relatively late with EEF women and spread rapidly thereafter with the megalithic culture. I STR match an ancient sample from a dolmen in NE France nearly perfectly. Pretty uncommon in Germany, less than 0.5% of the male population carry it. My own cluster is exclusively from German speaking areas, the closest sister branch consists of Irish and English samples plus a Catalonian family with a northern French surname.

http://i.imgur.com/3l3LXmz.png (https://imgur.com/3l3LXmz)

[Zoltan]

Q-L332 > Q-YP1695 > Q-BZ427 > Q-BZ3950
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106725&d=1617311108

[Ayyleid]

I did 23andMe and got R-L2 which I read was common around the Alps region of Europe. Checks out since my Grandpa on my father's side said our family came from Alsace-Lorraine, and the highest likely place where my ancestors come from is Bavaria.

[Peterski]

stRonk

[Roy]

I am E-V13. Rather rare in Poland. I have tried to delve deeper into which subclade I do have using software on various websites but to na avail.

[Harkonnen]

stRonk

Stronk representation in low life loonie bin :coffee:

[Peterski]

Stronk representation in low life loonie bin :coffee:

How do you know that you are not R - have you done an Y-DNA test?

[Harkonnen]

Do not doubt me son.

[Jana]

How do you know that you are not R - have you done an Y-DNA test?

He's much more likely to be N or I. Finland has lowest percentage of R in Europe togheder with B&H iirc.

[Peterski]

Do not doubt me son.

Gib 20 cowz filthy barbarian - https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?344821-Was-my-ancestor-a-Roman-soldier&p=7161417&viewfull=1#post7161417

[Jaromir]

He's much more likely to be N or I. Finland has lowest percentage of R in Europe togheder with B&H iirc.

but by look (pheno) still closer to fellow Eastern Slavs :scratch:

[Jana]

but by look (pheno) still closer to fellow Eastern Slavs :scratch:

Nice joke. They look much more like Swedes than Ukrainians or Belarusians. Only eastern Slavs similar to Finns are northern Russians.

[Harkonnen]

Nice joke. They look much more like Swedes than Ukrainians or Belarusians. Only eastern Slavs similar to Finns are northern Russians.

bUT closest to ALL to Komi and Bob Squarepants.

[Peterski]

He's much more likely to be N or I. Finland has lowest percentage of R in Europe togheder with B&H iirc.

And? Probability means nothing, but actually doing a test. I was also much more likely to be R1a than R1b, especially this subclade.

[Harkonnen]

And? Probability means nothing, but actually doing a test. I was also much more likely to be R1a than R1b, especially this subclade.

What is your obsession? I voted on the poll.

[Jatuli]

I-L258

[Smitty]

I hope I can test one day. I'm expecting R1b, but I could be in for a surprise.

[FountainOfSalmacis]

R-Z19 which I think is a subclade of R-U106 (R1b). My dad is mixed (Greek, Croatian, English).

[Megadorian]

J2a M-319

Father's side is from Kallikratis(Crete) and mother's side from Monemvasia(Peloponnese)

[Artek]

R1a-BY27799, YF05594 here: https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/R-BY27800/

[Rethel]

I hope I can test one day. I'm expecting R1b, but I could be in for a surprise.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0

[Armenian Bishop]

My YDNA Haplogroup, R-M405 (R1b1b2a1a1) is shared with members of the French House of Bourbon.

[jfgh676]

Any info on how G population is present in NA and which populations bring it with them there? Any basic info on G-L1259 branch and where it can be most found?

[Ayetooey]

Haplogroup A (A1b1b2b1 (M118).

[Hektor12]

My YDNA Haplogroup, R-M405 (R1b1b2a1a1) is shared with members of the French House of Bourbon.

Are you armenian only from maternal side?

[xripkan]

R1a-YP5153

[Abdelnour]

L-M349

[Chaos One]

Don't know how I'm a weird I2a2 (which now is I2a1b1) who peaks on Netherlands, but that's it.

[tipirneni]

H->H-M82->H-Z5890

[walid]

Any info on how G population is present in NA and which populations bring it with them there? Any basic info on G-L1259 branch and where it can be most found?

Are you from Sanhaja Srair?

[jfgh676]

Are you from Sanhaja Srair?

No,Fassi churfa

[gixajo]

I am beginning to receive results from the BIG Y that I did three months ago, they have taken me a step further than the already known YP5000 (thanks to Yseq).

So now I am: R1a>Z282> Z91> YP5000> BY27340

https://i.imgur.com/0VjkYDq.png

[Arūnas]

R but the better one - R1b

[FriendlyComrade]

The poll didn't have my paternal haplogroup which is C2b1a1b1.

[nikolaipoland]

R1a

[El_Jibaro]

It is on my profile.

My paternal line is from here:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Gallaecia.png

[Argentum]

R-Z56 according 23andme

[Roy]

E-V13

[Italicus]

Haplogroup J, baby. Allah hu akbar! :taliban:

[Andullero]

It is on my profile.

My paternal line is from here:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Gallaecia.png

R1b for the win. :thumb001:

[happycow]

G-Z6032. I don't know anything about it. yfull shows Italy.

[Tongio]

Haplogroup J, baby. Allah hu akbar! :taliban:

Shalom Aleichem J brother:wink_002:

[Italicus]

Shalom Aleichem J brother:wink_002:

Al salaam aleikum habib! :saw:

[Leto]

Al salaam aleikum habib! :saw:
Do you have your 23andme results? Can you share them with the Apricity?

[Italicus]

Do you have your 23andme results? Can you share them with the Apricity?

Sure, it's just that my dad gave me the kit as a present and I don't have the password. I tried resetting it and everything but it's acting all funky. But I can tell you my results. I'm 58 percent Southern European, 14 percent Levantine and 25 percent Chinese. But I will most definitely try to get those results and post them for sure.

[Leto]

Sure, it's just that my dad gave me the kit as a present and I don't have the password. I tried resetting it and everything but it's acting all funky. But I can tell you my results. I'm 58 percent Southern European, 14 percent Levantine and 25 percent Chinese. But I will most definitely try to get those results and post them for sure.
Lol okay xD Gedmatch is worth trying too, at least one or two calculators from there.
Do you have Asian features of any kind?

[Italicus]

Lol okay xD Gedmatch is worth trying too, at least one or two calculators from there.
Do you have Asian features of any kind?

Not at all. Heres a pic 110555

[Leto]

Not at all. Heres a pic 110555
Wow, I imagined you as some kind of a Central Asian looking person. Now I can understand why you mostly associate yourself with whites. But you still have a pass for Asian jokes and other cultural elements. ;)

[Italicus]

Wow, I imagined you as some kind of a Central Asian looking person. Now I can understand why you mostly associate yourself with whites. But you still have a pass for Asian jokes and other cultural elements. ;)

Haha true. Genetics can be quite fickle. My little cousin looks visibly Chinese (although he is paternally descended from my Chinese Grandpa, maybe thats why.) I don't really identify with Chinese culture. Don't get me wrong, it's cool and all, but I can't relate. I'm curious, how could you tell I associate mostly with whites lol

[Leto]

Haha true. Genetics can be quite fickle. My little cousin looks visibly Chinese (although he is paternally descended from my Chinese Grandpa, maybe thats why.) I don't really identify with Chinese culture. Don't get me wrong, it's cool and all, but I can't relate. I'm curious, how could you tell I associate mostly with whites lol
Well, you asked questions about Europeans and your own European ancestry, so I thought you were more interested in Italians and other Westerners.

[Italicus]

Well, you asked questions about Europeans and your own European ancestry, so I thought you were more interested in Italians and other Westerners.

Hey this might sound a bit OWD, but would you consider me white or white passing?

[Kriptc06]

E-V13 Z5018+ (wont giveaway my final clade. I am on Ytree)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/de/LocalDistritoLisboa.svg/1200px-LocalDistritoLisboa.svg.png

[MercifulServant]

http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-G2a-L497.png

[Leto]

Hey this might sound a bit OWD, but would you consider me white or white passing?
It's hard to say, man. I'm not an arbiter. On the one hand 25% is not nothing but a full quarter. On the other hand, you don't show it and culturally do not associate yourself with that part either.

[Harkonnen]

Hey this might sound a bit OWD, but would you consider me white or white passing?

Only submissive degenerate commie caucasoid would define himself through eyes of another man.

[Roy]

The poll didn't have my paternal haplogroup which is C2b1a1b1.

If you're a girl then you don't have a paternal haplogroup as you lack Y-chromosome. :coffee: You meant the haplogroup of your dad. :p

[Roy]

Wow, I imagined you as some kind of a Central Asian looking person. Now I can understand why you mostly associate yourself with whites. But you still have a pass for Asian jokes and other cultural elements. ;)

He barely if at all looks Asian, funny how genetics can work. We have to ask him whether he had a mongolian spot on his buttock though when he was born. :p

[Italicus]

He barely if at all looks Asian, funny how genetics can work. We have to ask him whether he had a mongolian spot on his buttock though when he was born. :p

Haha I should ask :laugh:

[HelloGuys]

E ----> E1b1b1b ----> M81 ----> PF2546

It's of berber origin; my subclade has around 2200 or 2400 years old and it seems that my haplogroup arrived to México from Spain, so the best theory is that my haplo reached Iberia in Roman expansion times.

[Alexandro]

E ----> E1b1b1b ----> M81 ----> PF2546

It's of berber origin; my subclade has 2200 years old and it seems that my haplogroup arrived to México from Spain, so the best theory is that my haplo reached Iberia in Roman expansion times.

Amazigh pride, my Iberoberber brother

[Ezio Auditore]

Amazigh pride, my Iberoberber brother

R1b-DF27... but i still have a good bit of amazigh tblood too which should be obvious being of western iberian stock. The theory of north africans intermingling with the beautiful celts of the nw since millennia ago in ancient times and making big families is a beautiful thought. The celto-berber lines are found all over iberia and it's the real iberian DNA. I am also an iberoberber brother!

[Alexandro]

R1b-DF27... but i still have a good bit of amazigh too naturally being of western iberian stock. Theory of north africans intermingling with the beautiful celts of the nw since millennia ago in ancient times and making big families is a beautiful thought. The celto-berber lines are found all over iberia and it's the real iberian DNA. I am also an iberoberber brother!

I would like to die if I had your Y-DNA. Can't larp as a guanche with R1b. :(

I will pray every night to allah for a E-M81 result. Inshallah.

[Tongio]

I am beginning to receive results from the BIG Y that I did three months ago, they have taken me a step further than the already known YP5000 (thanks to Yseq).

So now I am: R1a>Z282> Z91> YP5000> BY27340

https://i.imgur.com/0VjkYDq.png

Gixajo the visigoth.

[Ezio Auditore]

I would like to die if I had your Y-DNA. Can't larp as a guanche with R1b. :(

I will pray every night to allah for a E-M81 result. Inshallah.

You haven't received your DNA results yet to find out dude! You must be patient and wait to see if you were blessed with the E-M81 result... if you get r1b like me you will be in-denial for a little bit but don't worry you'll get over the disappointment sooner or later, i had a therapist for a couple months personally... but i got over it bc i realize most iberians have amazigh DNA running through their veins regardless! It's a beautiful revelation.

[Alexandro]

You haven't received your DNA results yet to find out dude! You must be patient and wait to see if you were blessed with the E-M81 result... if you get r1b like me you will be in-denial for a little bit but don't worry you'll get over the disappointment sooner or later, i had a therapist for a couple months personally... but i got over it bc i realize most iberians have amazigh DNA running through their veins! It's a beautiful revelation.

It scares me, you know. There is a ~60% chance I am the same haplo as you. I will die inside, but at least if my Iberomaurusian is above 5 I will rest easy at night. Blessings my tuga brother. I must be strong in these uncertain and dark times.

[Defcon2]

You haven't received your DNA results yet to find out dude! You must be patient and wait to see if you were blessed with the E-M81 result... if you get r1b like me you will be in-denial for a little bit but don't worry you'll get over the disappointment sooner or later, i had a therapist for a couple months personally... but i got over it bc i realize most iberians have amazigh DNA running through their veins! It's a beautiful revelation.

And do not forget about the black blood my friend, of which I am an example for my y-dna!

[Figaro]

I would like to die if I had your Y-DNA. Can't larp as a guanche with R1b. :(

I will pray every night to allah for a E-M81 result. Inshallah.

You awaiting a test, my Iberian friend?

[Alexandro]

You awaiting a test, my Iberian friend?

Yesssss, 23andme was on sale so I went for it.

[Figaro]

Yesssss, 23andme was on sale so I went for it.

You Canarian on the paternal or maternal side?

[Alexandro]

You Canarian on the paternal or maternal side?

My mother was born and raised in Gran Canaria :cool:

[Figaro]

My mother was born and raised in Gran Canaria :cool:

Maybe you will have a North African mtDNA? Hopefully you come out Guanche-stronk.

[Alexandro]

Maybe you will have a North African mtDNA? Hopefully you come out Guanche-stronk.

Yeah, probably the Canary specific U6b1 as my mtDNA.

I think I'll basically just be like a somewhat woggier Iberian, like psuedo Extremaduran. Idk.

[Defcon2]

My ears ring.

[gixajo]

Yesssss, 23andme was on sale so I went for it.

My bet: >R1b and U5b1 (solo por llevar la contraria).

[HelloGuys]

I would like to die if I had your Y-DNA. Can't larp as a guanche with R1b. :(

I will pray every night to allah for a E-M81 result. Inshallah.

You have still your mtDNA IberoBerber bruh, it's very likely that you have a MENA one if your maternal is from Canarias :thumb001:

[HelloGuys]

Yesssss, 23andme was on sale so I went for it.

Finally! My bet is:

Y-DNA: R1b
MtDNA: U6