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JamesBond007
01-21-2022, 08:12 PM
Meet the maker of G25 Davidski :

https://i.postimg.cc/W4PzFrNk/foreigners-061.png


POLES

Racial Characteristics:

A nation known as the Rudimental Reading Class of Europe. Its citizens are turkey-loaf look-alikes descended from a barbarian horde that took a wrong turn on its way to sack Rome.They spent the Middle Ages trying to fight Vikings on horseback and invented breech-loading artillery by pointing their cannons the wrong way around. They didn't know about sexual intercourse until the tenth century, having previously reproduced by raiding warthog litters. In 1947, the Poles became a Communist country under the impression that it was a rite of the Catholic church, and today thew principal exports are snow tires manufactured from their own native deposits of snow.

Good Points:
Easy to beat at contract bridge.

Proper Forms of Address:
Polack, dumbo, lug wrench, kielbasa brain.

My results of G25 :

Distance to: Jamesbond007_scaled
0.02865262 Dutch
0.02966312 Norwegian
0.03097093 Welsh
0.03119617 Irish
0.03153596 Scottish
0.03173767 English
0.03211816 Danish
0.03264251 Orcadian
0.03323573 French_Brittany
0.03424261 English_Cornwall


Target: Jamesbond007_scaled
Distance: 2.3554% / 0.02355385
76.0 Norwegian
17.4 Spanish_Soria
2.8 Darginian
2.6 Finnish_Southeast
0.8 Biaka
0.4 Papuan

Uh, yeah, I can pay only $12 dollars to some amateur Polack on the web with some shady blog and expect legit results ? Yeah, and I also have bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.:picard2:

Meanwhile for $59 at sequencing.com a legit scientific website :

https://sequencing.com/dna-ancestry-genetic-genealogy-report

Jamesbond007 :

Western European (100% European):
71% British or Irish
18% French or German
8% Broadly Northwestern European
Eastern European :
2% Russian
1% Ukrainian



Also, for $20 bucks @ https://sequencing.com/map-my-genes-dna-ancestry-analysis

The bigger the circle the closer the genetic affinity I get pretty big circles for Cornwall England, Kent England and Argyl-Bute Scotland which is to be expected given my above genetic results from sequencing.com :


https://i.postimg.cc/RZMmtRrK/mapgenes.png


Let me be straight here I'm not opposed to be closest to the Dutch or Norwegian but I am opposed to being 'Irish' (I admit my biases which is what you have to do to be scientific) rather my paper trail is about 75% British isles and 25% German/French and sequencing.com matches that almost perfectly unlike G25. I know G5 is not supposed to be taken literally but seen through proxy populations but sequencing.com is just better.


Let us be real do you really expect to pay only $12 to some polack car thieves of German cars and expect real results and precision that it claims to offer ? I paid $59 dollars for sequencing.com and the results speak for themselves. You get what you pay for.

Leto
01-21-2022, 08:39 PM
So you are trolling an entire nation because of one guy who lives in Australia and because you don't score what you would prefer to see?

Defcon2
01-21-2022, 08:52 PM
Did you run the entire G25 datasheet to model your ancestry? :picard2:

JamesBond007
01-21-2022, 08:56 PM
So you are trolling an entire nation because of one guy who lives in Australia and because you don't score what you would prefer to see?

Score I prefer to see ? I told you I'm 75% British isles and 25% German/French (that is my paper trail) but the Queen of England is 25% German. Also, XenopobhicPrussian classified me as passing in Cornwall England and Devonshire England. Even yourdnaportal advanced analysis has me as Welsh/Germanic which is like another way of indirectly saying Cornwall/Devonshire more or less. Obviously, XenophobicPrussian is an expert and highly intelligent and is planning to invade Poland and slaughter the Poles as that is what Prussians do.

Australian ? He is an ethnic pole.

Humanophage
01-21-2022, 09:11 PM
Uh, is this some kind of a joke? G25 looks consistent with 75% British and 25% German.

Not to mention that Sequencing calls you Irish even more explicitly.

Leto
01-21-2022, 09:21 PM
Score I prefer to see ? I told you I'm 75% British isles and 25% German/French (that is my paper trail) but the Queen of England is 25% German. Also, XenopobhicPrussian classified me as passing in Cornwall England and Devonshire England. Even yourdnaportal advanced analysis has me as Welsh/Germanic which is like another way of indirectly saying Cornwall/Devonshire more or less. Obviously, XenophobicPrussian is an expert and highly intelligent and is planning to invade Poland and slaughter the Poles as that is what Prussians do.
Listen, the "taxonomy" is a crock of shit and every smart individual knows that. Who gives a fuck what you were classified as by someone? You used to call yourself French, Dutch, Scottish, now you're English and German. I'm sure you have Irish ancestry too. Also, you seem to be about 1% nigger which is why you never share your full Gedmatch values. :D

JamesBond007
01-21-2022, 09:42 PM
Did you run the entire G25 datasheet to model your ancestry? :picard2:

I can whittle it down to just Norwegian/SouthWest French but I'm not norwegian nor southWest French.

G25 is not peer reviewed science :


Spatial Ancestry analysis (SPA) is a method for predicting ancestry or where an individual is from using the individual's DNA. Accurately modeling ancestry is an important step in identifying genetic variation involved in disease.

SPA was created by Wen-Yun Yang, John Novembre, Eleazar Eskin and Eran Halperin

For general questions, comments or suggestions about SPA, please email Eleazar Eskin (eeskin (AT) cs.ucla.edu).

Wen-Yun Yang, John Novembre, Eleazar Eskin and Eran Halperin. A model based approach for analysis of spatial structure in genetic data. Nature Genetics, 44, 725–731



http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/


https://i.postimg.cc/QtH07MrG/ancestry.png


Eleazar Eskin is a computer scientist and geneticist, professor and Chair of the Department of Computational Medicine, and professor of computer science and human genetics at the University of California, Los Angeles. His research focuses on bioinformatics, genomics, and machine learning.[1][2] A primary research focus is on developing statistical and computational techniques to probe the genetic basis of human disease.[3]

Awards and honours

He was elected a Fellow of the International Society for Computational Biology (ISCB) in 2019 for “outstanding contributions to the fields of computational biology and bioinformatics”.[4]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleazar_Eskin

John Peter Novembre (born 1977/1978) is a computational biologist at the University of Chicago. He received a MacArthur Fellowship in 2015. Novembre has developed data visualization and analysis techniques to investigate correlations between genomic diversity, geography, and demographic structure.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Novembre

JamesBond007
01-21-2022, 09:43 PM
Listen, the "taxonomy" is a crock of shit and every smart individual knows that. Who gives a fuck what you were classified as by someone? You used to call yourself French, Dutch, Scottish, now you're English and German. I'm sure you have Irish ancestry too. Also, you seem to be about 1% nigger which is why you never share your full Gedmatch values. :D

http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/

Are you high on drugs ? Davidski is not a trained legit scientist and G25 is not peer reviewed science and neither is GEDMatch ? Are you a fucking moron or what ?

Eleazar Eskin is a computer scientist and geneticist, professor and Chair of the Department of Computational Medicine, and professor of computer science and human genetics at the University of California, Los Angeles. His research focuses on bioinformatics, genomics, and machine learning.[1][2] A primary research focus is on developing statistical and computational techniques to probe the genetic basis of human disease.[3]

Awards and honours

He was elected a Fellow of the International Society for Computational Biology (ISCB) in 2019 for “outstanding contributions to the fields of computational biology and bioinformatics”.[4]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleazar_Eskin

John Peter Novembre (born 1977/1978) is a computational biologist at the University of Chicago. He received a MacArthur Fellowship in 2015. Novembre has developed data visualization and analysis techniques to investigate correlations between genomic diversity, geography, and demographic structure.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Novembre

Wen-Yun Yang, John Novembre, Eleazar Eskin and Eran Halperin. A model based approach for analysis of spatial structure in genetic data. Nature Genetics, 44, 725–731


https://i.postimg.cc/QtH07MrG/ancestry.png

gixajo
01-21-2022, 10:28 PM
Did you run the entire G25 datasheet to model your ancestry? :picard2:

And without penalization.

Es así de chulo el tío.

JamesBond007
01-21-2022, 11:10 PM
And without penalization.

Es así de chulo el tío.

Broham, I think you guys are smoking marijuana laced with crack cocaine and dipped in PCP.

Hello, I'm a Polack untermensch with with no scientific training and I just happen to have a blog. I created Eurogenes calculators out of my ass -- my name is Davidski

Hello, my name is Dienekes Pontikos I'm a random Greek monkey barely considered European looking by central and northern Europeans and I have an amateur blog. I created Dodecad.

Hello, My name is John Novembre and I'm a scientist and academic expert in the field.

Hello, my name is Eleazar Eskin I'm a professor and academic expert in the field.

"We (John and Eleazar) published a peer reviewed tool called SPA that maps Jamesbond007 ancestry to England but you know random untermensch and WOGs with amatuer blogs are saying different.".

Gixajo : "...without penalization".:picard2:

Karol Klačansky
01-21-2022, 11:21 PM
lol 75% british +25% German makes u dutch homie. Davidski is light years ahead of you.

JamesBond007
01-21-2022, 11:58 PM
lol 75% british +25% German makes u dutch homie. Davidski is light years ahead of you.

Ok, genius, so Queen Elizabeth is Dutch too ?


The House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (/ˌsæks ˌkoʊbɜːɡ ... ˈɡɒθə, -tə/;[1] German: Haus Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha) is a German dynasty. It takes its name from its oldest domain, the Ernestine duchy of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, but its members later sat on the thrones of the United Kingdom, Belgium, Portugal, Bulgaria, and Mexico.

Founded in 1826 by Ernest Anton, the sixth duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld, it is a cadet branch of the Saxon House of Wettin. Agnatic branches currently reign in Belgium—]the descendants of Leopold I, and in the United Kingdom—the descendants of Albert, Prince Consort.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Saxe-Coburg_and_Gotha


So, yes, the Queen is partly German.


As it is revealed half of Britons have German blood... Time to embrace your inner Jerry!



Achtung! Mein Gott! The revelation that millions of Brits have German blood coursing through our veins comes as a shock, well, as big as the Blitz.

Leading geneticists and archaeologists have shown that we have been cousins of the Teutons since the dawn of time — ever since the fifth and sixth centuries, in fact.

That, as any schoolboy knows, is when tribes invading from northern Europe pillaged and raped their way across England in their hordes, before settling down to the English way of life. And what the geneticists from University College in London have shown, is that they left their mark on us — indelibly.

After analysing tooth enamel and bones in Anglo-Saxon cemeteries and comparing the genetic make-up of Britons and Germans, they have come to the conclusion that about half of us have German forebears.

Inevitably, the Germans themselves are crowing. ‘There is no use denying it,’ said the magazine Der Spiegel. ‘It is now clear the nation which most dislikes the Germans were once Krauts themselves.’

After a century of bitter rivalry between the Tommies and the Jerries, it is tempting for us to feel deflated by this news. It’s almost as if the Germans are getting the last laugh after losing two World Wars and one World Cup.

Never did that cliché from war films — ‘You know Tommy, vee are ze same, you and I’ — seem so appallingly apt.

But is the news really so bad? After all, don’t we have far more in common with the Germans than we realise? Our rivalry may even stem from our similarities rather than our differences.

Perhaps we should see ourselves as brothers in arms rather than brothers at war. Contentious as it may sound, I would appeal to all of you to embrace your inner Jerry.

Before I go any further, I must make a confession. My late grandmother was German, which makes me enough of a Hun to represent Germany at sport, although quite what sport that would be is unclear.

Even Adolf Hitler admired our fighting spirit

For many years, all too aware of my ancestry, I have bridled at the xenophobia whenever 22 men from our two countries are about to kick a ball around for an hour and a half.

At school, I occasionally had to endure the odd Hitler salute and goose-stepping. Although such displays were hardly bullying, they did make me realise that ‘anti-Germanism’ is so deeply engrained in our culture that a nine-year-old boy can tease another simply because he is one quarter German.

Clearly, I wish I had known then what was revealed yesterday, as I would have been able to tell my tormentors that they were just as German as I.

After all, we have so much in common with the Germans, that it seems ludicrous we are always at loggerheads. For a start, our Royal Family is essentially German, and had not its name been changed to Windsor in 1917, our Queen might have been called Elizabeth Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha.


Quintessentially British: Had the Royal Family not changed its name to Windsor in 1917, our Queen might have been called Elizabeth Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha


Prince Philip, despite being nicknamed ‘Phil the Greek’, is actually a scion of the Danish-German House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, which, let’s face it, sounds about as German as it gets.

But the similarities go much further than the Vindsors, sorry, Windsors.

....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2006584/Half-Britons-German-blood--time-embrace-inner-Jerry.html

Friends of Oliver Society
01-22-2022, 12:06 AM
Davidski is at loggerheads with 'real' scientists on PIE. His argument on PIE appears to make much more sense based on the actual genetic evidence of ancient samples.

Jamesbond007 makes a number of fallacies in his attacks on Davidski.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 01:04 AM
Davidski is at loggerheads with 'real' scientists on PIE. His argument on PIE appears to make much more sense based on the actual genetic evidence of ancient samples.


Jamesbond007 makes a number of fallacies in his attacks on Davidski.


No shit a dog on the street could tell you I'm not Dutch genius that is why I'm using fallacies. For instance, an Italian-American woman called me a WASP recently and its not the first time and WASP means white ANGLO-SAXON Protestant plus my Y-DNA is consistent with Cornwall England not the Netherlands etc...

As an American I don't think you understand Polish people are a problem in Britain so much so that is a major reason for Brexit.


Anyway,G25 is overhyped where even his tool K36 and K15 contradict G25. For instance, K36 was such a cluster fuck that it took French brains to rein it into something useful. Davidski's K36 tool moderated by French brains puts me in England just like legit scientists :

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/Europe.htm



https://i.postimg.cc/fTMVDcVV/memap2.png


Davidski's Eurogenes K15 contradicts his G25 as well for me :

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 35.90
2 Atlantic 27.26
3 Baltic 9.98
4 Eastern_Euro 9.54
5 West_Med 9.00
6 West_Asian 4.70


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 4.227181
2 Southeast_English @ 4.311457
3 North_Dutch @ 4.412205
4 Danish @ 4.772104
5 West_Scottish @ 4.967159

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 01:08 AM
Davidski is at loggerheads with 'real' scientists on PIE. His argument on PIE appears to make much more sense based on the actual genetic evidence of ancient samples.

Jamesbond007 makes a number of fallacies in his attacks on Davidski.

So Davidski's G25 has me has Dutch, his K13 as me as Irish, his K36 (moderated by a Frenchman) has SouthEast English and Davidski's K15 has me as SouthWest English. Sorry, that is just moronic man how the fuck is he going from saying Irish to English/Dutch ?

Friends of Oliver Society
01-22-2022, 01:11 AM
No shit a dog on the street could tell you I'm not Dutch genius. For instance, an Italian-American woman called me a WASP recently and its not the first time and WASP means white ANGLO-SAXON Protestant plus my Y-DNA is consistent with Cornwall England not the Netherlands etc...

As an American I don't think you understand Polish people are a problem in Britain so much so that is a major reason for Brexit.


Anyway,G25 is overhyped where even his tool K36 and K15 contradict G25. For instance, K36 was such a cluster fuck that it took French brains to rein it into something useful. Davidski's K36 tool moderated by French brains puts me in England just like legit scientists :

I think you're too low IQ to understand how this all works. Because you're an ethnic mutt you show up as Dutch because of the various mishmash of ethnicities. It never meant you're Dutch.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 01:25 AM
Davidski is at loggerheads with 'real' scientists on PIE. His argument on PIE appears to make much more sense based on the actual genetic evidence of ancient samples.

Jamesbond007 makes a number of fallacies in his attacks on Davidski.

Let me hit you in the head with a giant clue-by-four genius. English people are Anglo-Saxon hence related to the Dutch and Germans. Irish people are not related to the Germans they are related to the Scottish perhaps or whatever.

So, for Davidski to say I'm Irish in K13 (which is highly popular and still in use) to saying I'm English in K15 is the height of mental retardation. Celts vs Anglo-Saxon the moron can't even get that right.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 01:30 AM
I think you're too low IQ to understand how this all works. Because you're an ethnic mutt you show up as Dutch because of the various mishmash of ethnicities. It never meant you're Dutch.

I think you are too low IQ to understand that to confuse the Irish and the English is mentally retarded and that the English are mutts an in fact most Europeans are mutts. Even the Swedish are part Baltic hence mutts the English are more mutts.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 01:31 AM
I think you're too low IQ to understand how this all works. Because you're an ethnic mutt you show up as Dutch because of the various mishmash of ethnicities. It never meant you're Dutch.

Yes, so you are a low IQ moron who thinks its ok for his K13 to say I'm closest to Celts and his K15 and G25 to say I'm closest to Germanics ? You are the fucking low IQ moron here.

Italicus
01-22-2022, 01:35 AM
You sound as dumb as a jogger, if you know what I mean.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 01:49 AM
I think you're too low IQ to understand how this all works. Because you're an ethnic mutt you show up as Dutch because of the various mishmash of ethnicities. It never meant you're Dutch.

How is this for low IQ, right. Check it out now you are too low IQ notice such things but smart notice such things :


G25 breakdown :

Distance to: James_scaled
0.02865262 Dutch
0.02966312 Norwegian
0.03097093 Welsh
0.03119617 Irish
0.03153596 Scottish
0.03173767 English
0.03211816 Danish
0.03264251 Orcadian
0.03323573 French_Brittany
0.03424261 English_Cornwall

Compare that breakdown to Dodecad K12B and Eurogenes K15 :


K15 :

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 4.227181
2 Southeast_English @ 4.311457
3 North_Dutch @ 4.412205
4 Danish @ 4.772104
5 West_Scottish @ 4.967159
6 Irish @ 5.035373

Dodecad K12B :

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 3.547708
2 Dutch_Dodecad @ 4.149513
3 CEU30_1000Genomes @ 4.321194
4 English_Dodecad @ 4.433512
5 Kent_1000Genomes @ 4.460864
6 Argyll_1000Genomes @ 5.150403
7 Cornwall_1000Genomes @ 6.123360
8 British_Dodecad @ 6.143935
9 British_Isles_Dodecad @ 6.243847
10 Irish_Dodecad @ 6.326852

^ if you can't tell how K15 and Dodecad flow more logically downwards than G25 then there is no help for your IQ

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 01:57 AM
You sound as dumb as a jogger, if you know what I mean.

I know what you mean. You mean you are inferior Southern European spaghetti nigger.

Friends of Oliver Society
01-22-2022, 02:05 AM
Let me hit you in the head with a giant clue-by-four genius. English people are Anglo-Saxon hence related to the Dutch and Germans. Irish people are not related to the Germans they are related to the Scottish perhaps or whatever.

So, for Davidski to say I'm Irish in K13 (which is highly popular and still in use) to saying I'm English in K15 is the height of mental retardation. Celts vs Anglo-Saxon the moron can't even get that right.


I think you are too low IQ to understand that to confuse the Irish and the English is mentally retarded and that the English are mutts an in fact most Europeans are mutts. Even the Swedish are part Baltic hence mutts the English are more mutts.


Yes, so you are a low IQ moron who thinks its ok for his K13 to say I'm closest to Celts and his K15 and G25 to say I'm closest to Germanics ? You are the fucking low IQ moron here.

We've both been tested. When you tried to commit suicide over a woman and me for employment. I scored far higher than you.

I'm pretty certain Grace O'Malley explained all this to you once before when you were having another one of your manic episodes about being Norman French or Martian or whatever.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 02:14 AM
You sound as dumb as a jogger, if you know what I mean.

I got the spaghetti nigger blues I got the spaghetti nigger blues from the top of my hat to the bottom of my cowboy shoes. :




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4cX7iGM9y0

https://i.postimg.cc/sX1Bdsxw/hbz-1952-queen-elizabeth-ii-gettyimages-89857203.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/J4z2fF5t/foreigners-049.png

ITALIANS

Racial Characteristics:

This least appealing of the European peoples combines natural criminal propensities with an attitude of slavish idolatry toward that Whore of Rome, the Pope. When speaking, the Italians gesture frantically with their hands in an attempt to distract your gaze from their ugly faces-upon which are clearly etched the marks of their moral and intellectual degeneracy. They cannot stop stealing, and will sometimes go so far as to steal money that is rightfully theirs from the pockets of their own trousers even as they wear them. Worse yet, they rarely catch themselves doing so. (Not that it matters, since their currency is worth nothing.) Otherwise, they amuse themselves by kidnapping the neighbor's children, voting for Communists, and staying out on strike, where they've been since the 1940s. On the field of
battle they are abject cowards, and in the kitchen they're enthralled with bruised tomatoes andthe noodle only.

Good Points:
Big tits.

Proper Forms of Address:
Ginzo, guinea, dago, spaghetti-bender, wop.

A German Joke of the War Years Illustrating Some Points Concerning the Italian Character:
During the campaign in North Africa, an Italian tank and a German tank accidentally collided
and the two surprised drivers jumped out. The Italian yelled, "I surrender! I surrender!" The
German shot him.

Leto
01-22-2022, 02:26 AM
I demand Kevin be banned ASAP. This unspeakable racism has got to stop. :eek:

Leto
01-22-2022, 02:29 AM
So Davidski's G25 has me has Dutch, his K13 as me as Irish, his K36 (moderated by a Frenchman) has SouthEast English and Davidski's K15 has me as SouthWest English. Sorry, that is just moronic man how the fuck is he going from saying Irish to English/Dutch ?
Do you realize there is a new and updated spreadsheet for K13? Once again, post your FULL values and we'll see what you score NOW. The old spreadsheet is fucking irrelevant at this point, it should not be taken at face value by any means.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 02:32 AM
We've both been tested. When you tried to commit suicide over a woman and me for employment. I scored far higher than you.

.

Yeah, ok, first of all you are a moron for even suggesting that IQ is settled science.

Nevertheless the opinion of experts, when it is unanimous, must be accepted by non-experts as more likely to be right than the opposite opinion. The scepticism that I advocate amounts only to this: (1) that when the experts are agreed, the opposite opinion cannot be held to be certain; (2) that when they are agreed, no opinion can be regarded as certain by a non-expert; and (3) that when they all hold that no sufficient grounds for a positive opinion exist, the ordinary man would do well to suspend his judgment.”

― Bertrand Russell, The Will to Doubt



"The idea that intelligence can be measured by a single number — your IQ — is wrong, according to a recent study led by researchers at the University of Western Ontario (abstract). The study, published in the journal Neuron, involved 100,000 participants around the world taking 12 cognitive tests, with a smaller sample of the group undergoing simultaneous brain-scan testing. 'When we looked at the data, the bottom line is the whole concept of IQ — or of you having a higher IQ than me — is a myth,' said Dr. Adrian Owen, the study’s senior investigator... 'There is no such thing as a single measure of IQ or a measure of general intelligence.'"

https://www.thestar.com/life/2012/12/19/iq_a_myth_study_says.html

IQ as obsolete :


New algorithm uses brain scans to tell how smart you are

Forget about controversial, old-fashioned IQ tests as a measure of intelligence. A new machine-learning algorithm, which was developed by scientists at Caltech, can predict a person’s intellectual ability with unprecedented accuracy.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322329


...the intelligence test can be seen as a moral technology used specifically for the social judgement of school children by psychologists under the guise of “science” . The inventor of the test, Alfred Binet, had developed it to identify the “feeble-minded” to be sent to special schools. Significant for contextualising later mass testings and screenings of school children for intelligence, abnormalities, and mental disorders, Nikolas Rose notes, “Binet’s test used criteria that were directly educational and behavioural. They were direct assessments of the degree of adaptation of individual children to the expectation that others had of them.” The key to the success of Binet’s test was not the ability to accurately measure “intelligence”—which he felt was impossible to predict through such time-restricted tests—but its administrative usefulness in identifying problematic individuals --Professor Bruce M.Z. Cohen professor University of New Zealand

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 02:35 AM
Do you realize there is a new and updated spreadsheet for K13? Once again, post your FULL values and we'll see what you score NOW. The old spreadsheet is fucking irrelevant at this point, it should not be taken at face value by any means.

So Davidski endorsed Lukasz's Vahaduo ? I thought he endorsed genoplot but not Vahaduo. If it makes you happy I'll do it but it is really just some amateur tool curated by some Australian without credentials and some Lukasz without credentials.

Leto
01-22-2022, 02:40 AM
So Davidski endorsed Lukasz's Vahaduo ? I thought he endorsed genoplot but not Vahaduo. If it makes you happy I'll do it but it is really just some amateur tool curated by some Australian without credentials and some Lukasz without credentials.
It is a community-led project, Lukasz only administers the website. For example Creoda mainly collects Western European kits. You don't need any credentials in order to use Gedmatch and create population averages.
Just post your full values, even the noise part. Nobody cares about your tiny non-Caucasoid percentage if it's even real and not noise.

celticdragongod
01-22-2022, 02:42 AM
Jamesbond007 makes a number of fallacies in his attacks on Davidski.

That is because Jamesbond007 is a deranged nutjob who should be ignored or pitied or both.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 02:52 AM
That is because Jamesbond007 is a deranged nutjob who should be ignored or pitied or both.

I'm a deranged nutjob but you told me on this board that I'm SouthWest English probably about a year or two ago. Do you really want me to dig up that post ? It will take me a long time to do it but you said I'm SouthWest English in a post on this forum , genius.

Friends of Oliver Society
01-22-2022, 03:02 AM
Yeah, ok, first of all you are a moron for even suggesting that IQ is settled science.

Nevertheless the opinion of experts, when it is unanimous, must be accepted by non-experts as more likely to be right than the opposite opinion. The scepticism that I advocate amounts only to this: (1) that when the experts are agreed, the opposite opinion cannot be held to be certain; (2) that when they are agreed, no opinion can be regarded as certain by a non-expert; and (3) that when they all hold that no sufficient grounds for a positive opinion exist, the ordinary man would do well to suspend his judgment.”

― Bertrand Russell, The Will to Doubt



"The idea that intelligence can be measured by a single number — your IQ — is wrong, according to a recent study led by researchers at the University of Western Ontario (abstract). The study, published in the journal Neuron, involved 100,000 participants around the world taking 12 cognitive tests, with a smaller sample of the group undergoing simultaneous brain-scan testing. 'When we looked at the data, the bottom line is the whole concept of IQ — or of you having a higher IQ than me — is a myth,' said Dr. Adrian Owen, the study’s senior investigator... 'There is no such thing as a single measure of IQ or a measure of general intelligence.'"

https://www.thestar.com/life/2012/12/19/iq_a_myth_study_says.html

IQ as obsolete :


New algorithm uses brain scans to tell how smart you are

Forget about controversial, old-fashioned IQ tests as a measure of intelligence. A new machine-learning algorithm, which was developed by scientists at Caltech, can predict a person’s intellectual ability with unprecedented accuracy.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322329


...the intelligence test can be seen as a moral technology used specifically for the social judgement of school children by psychologists under the guise of “science” . The inventor of the test, Alfred Binet, had developed it to identify the “feeble-minded” to be sent to special schools. Significant for contextualising later mass testings and screenings of school children for intelligence, abnormalities, and mental disorders, Nikolas Rose notes, “Binet’s test used criteria that were directly educational and behavioural. They were direct assessments of the degree of adaptation of individual children to the expectation that others had of them.” The key to the success of Binet’s test was not the ability to accurately measure “intelligence”—which he felt was impossible to predict through such time-restricted tests—but its administrative usefulness in identifying problematic individuals --Professor Bruce M.Z. Cohen professor University of New Zealand

This reminds me of a friend of mine in high school who hated jocks. What he really hated was he couldn't be one of them. He didn't have the talent.

Oh, you have a study? That certainly beats a century worth of studies.

As the kids say, cope harder.

Because you are unfortunately stupid you repeat the common misunderstanding that a number can measure IQ. No one thinks that. It's understood IQ gives you a reasonable estimate. It's also understood someone with an IQ of 114 isn't as intelligent as someone who scores 134. The last time I thought of this subject, I was reading about IQ tests given to fighter pilots in the late 50s, and it shouldn't be surprising you weren't going to make the cut. The lowest score was 120. Almost all were above 130. That didn't surprise me. Does that surprise you? I bring this up to show the relevance but like my friend you're just mad. It's not his fault he wasn't born a natural athlete. It's not your fault you're stupid and crazy. But it is the reality.

Anyway, this thread isn't about psychometrics.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 03:05 AM
That is because Jamesbond007 is a deranged nutjob who should be ignored or pitied or both.

...as every critical scholar on the topic is aware, very serious problems remain with the current science and practice within the mental health system. These concerns inevitably lead us to questioning the reality of the claims to a mental illness “epidemic” made by health organisations such as the APA and the WHO, and to ask who really benefits from the global expansion of the psychiatric discourse. An essential issue here is the continuing contested nature of “mental illness,” for there remains no proof that any “mental disorder” is a real, observable disease. Consequently, the “experts” still cannot distinguish the mentally ill from the mentally healthy. In fact, a recent attempt by the APA—the most powerful psychiatric body in the world—to define mental illness was bluntly described by one of their most senior figures as “bullshit” ...

... the main issues with the current state of psychiatric knowledge ...[are], the disagreements over aetiology and treatment of mental illness, the lack of agreement on what “mental illness” is, and consequently the lack of validity to any category of mental disorder. This deconstruction of psychiatric knowledge claims will lead us to question what the purpose .. --Professor Bruce M.Z. Cohen University of New Zealand

...Counterfeit art is forgery. Counterfeit testimony is perjury. But counterfeit illness is illness, “mental illness,” an illness officially decreed “an illness like any other.”...

Except for a few objectively identifiable brain diseases, such as Alzheimer’s disease, there are neither biological or chemical tests nor biopsy or necropsy findings for verifying or falsifying DSM diagnoses. .. --the late Professor Thomas Szasz of the University of Syracuse the state of New York.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 03:29 AM
This reminds me of a friend of mine in high school who hated jocks. What he really hated was he couldn't be one of them. He didn't have the talent.

Oh, you have a study? That certainly beats a century worth of studies.

.



Abstract
Summary

There is increasing concern that most current published research findings are false. The probability that a research claim is true may depend on study power and bias, the number of other studies on the same question, and, importantly, the ratio of true to no relationships among the relationships probed in each scientific field. In this framework, a research finding is less likely to be true when the studies conducted in a field are smaller; when effect sizes are smaller; when there is a greater number and lesser preselection of tested relationships; where there is greater flexibility in designs, definitions, outcomes, and analytical modes; when there is greater financial and other interest and prejudice; and when more teams are involved in a scientific field in chase of statistical significance. Simulations show that for most study designs and settings, it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true. Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias. In this essay, I discuss the implications of these problems for the conduct and interpretation of research.

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124


Abstract

Alongside the growing concerns regarding predatory journal growth, other questionable editorial practices have gained visibility recently. Among them, we explored the usefulness of the Percentage of Papers by the Most Prolific author (PPMP) and the Gini index (level of inequality in the distribution of authorship among authors) as tools to identify journals that may show favoritism in accepting articles by specific authors. We examined whether the PPMP, complemented by the Gini index, could be useful for identifying cases of potential editorial bias, using all articles in a sample of 5,468 biomedical journals indexed in the National Library of Medicine. For articles published between 2015 and 2019, the median PPMP was 2.9%, and 5% of journal exhibited a PPMP of 10.6% or more. Among the journals with the highest PPMP or Gini index values, where a few authors were responsible for a disproportionate number of publications, a random sample was manually examined, revealing that the most prolific author was part of the editorial board in 60 cases (61%). The papers by the most prolific authors were more likely to be accepted for publication within 3 weeks of their submission. Results of analysis on a subset of articles, excluding nonresearch articles, were consistent with those of the principal analysis. In most journals, publications are distributed across a large number of authors. Our results reveal a subset of journals where a few authors, often members of the editorial board, were responsible for a disproportionate number of publications. To enhance trust in their practices, journals need to be transparent about their editorial and peer review practices.

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3001133


P-hacking is a colloquial term for the process of manipulating – perhaps unconsciously - the process of statistical analysis and the degrees of freedom until they return a figure below the p<.05 level of statistical significance. This is achieved by dropping one of the experimental conditions in the results so that the overall p-value would be less than .05.

https://psychology.fandom.com/wiki/P-hacking

Nigga, you are basically mentally retarded.

I say Davidski contradicted himself with K13 and K15 and you said 'muh IQ'

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 03:31 AM
T It's not your fault you're stupid and crazy. But it is the reality.

.

What the fuck are you talking about ? You are obviously a moron read my above post to see why.

Friends of Oliver Society
01-22-2022, 03:39 AM
What the fuck are you talking about ? You are obviously a moron read my above post to see why.

Why do you insist on proving you're a moron to me? I'm speaking of a century of studies. Ironically it was you who provided a recent study contradicting centuries of work and yet you don't see the relevancy of your last post with the study you referrenced.

You're an idiot. Now stop annoying me, or I'll ankle pick you, bro.

Italicus
01-22-2022, 03:51 AM
I got the spaghetti nigger blues I got the spaghetti nigger blues from the top of my hat to the bottom of my cowboy shoes. :




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4cX7iGM9y0

https://i.postimg.cc/sX1Bdsxw/hbz-1952-queen-elizabeth-ii-gettyimages-89857203.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/J4z2fF5t/foreigners-049.png

ITALIANS

Racial Characteristics:

This least appealing of the European peoples combines natural criminal propensities with an attitude of slavish idolatry toward that Whore of Rome, the Pope. When speaking, the Italians gesture frantically with their hands in an attempt to distract your gaze from their ugly faces-upon which are clearly etched the marks of their moral and intellectual degeneracy. They cannot stop stealing, and will sometimes go so far as to steal money that is rightfully theirs from the pockets of their own trousers even as they wear them. Worse yet, they rarely catch themselves doing so. (Not that it matters, since their currency is worth nothing.) Otherwise, they amuse themselves by kidnapping the neighbor's children, voting for Communists, and staying out on strike, where they've been since the 1940s. On the field of
battle they are abject cowards, and in the kitchen they're enthralled with bruised tomatoes andthe noodle only.

Good Points:
Big tits.

Proper Forms of Address:
Ginzo, guinea, dago, spaghetti-bender, wop.

A German Joke of the War Years Illustrating Some Points Concerning the Italian Character:
During the campaign in North Africa, an Italian tank and a German tank accidentally collided
and the two surprised drivers jumped out. The Italian yelled, "I surrender! I surrender!" The
German shot him.

Lol that's so ridiculous. You are truly a loon. Have you had too much cocaine today?

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 04:03 AM
Why do you insist on proving you're a moron to me? I'm speaking of a century of studies. Ironically it was you who provided a recent study contradicting centuries of work and yet you don't see the relevancy of your last post with the study you referrenced.

You're an idiot. Now stop annoying me, or I'll ankle pick you, bro.

Century of studies ? Do you ride a horse and buggy instead of driving a car or something ? Whose to say a century is not relatively recent or is Isaac Newton still publishing papers ? I guess it did not dawn on you also that perhaps only a small percentage of modern studies are correct and I posted one that did not suffer from p-hacking. Where they not p-hacking for 100 years they just started ? LOL


Let me tell you a little story retard. Psychology is a social science. So physics is the king of the sciences and all sciences must obey the laws physics right ? Guess what ? psychology does not follow the laws of physics. Not only that but :

There is so much social science in some contemporary novels, and so much fiction in much of sociology, that it is hard to keep them apart.

Let me tell you story of a moron called Frank Grimes. I told him about p-hacking and he failed to induce that psychology is joke compared to physics because it relies on weak statistics rather than rigorous high level math. Math is the Queen of the sciences and Physics is the king of the sciences so physics in the New York Yankees.

So, psychology is little league baseball so here you are little league baseball player trying claim IQ is scientific like Einstein's theory of relativity or Darwin's theory of evolution. That my friend is why you are a moron.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 04:24 AM
Why do you insist on proving you're a moron to me? I'm speaking of a century of studies. Ironically it was you who provided a recent study contradicting centuries of work and yet you don't see the relevancy of your last post with the study you referrenced.

You're an idiot. Now stop annoying me, or I'll ankle pick you, bro.

You are an idiot you claim that I just posted one study instead of showing that IQ is obsolete. Yeah, retard let me use a pen and paper and sociology instead of computer science and physics etc... to measure intelligence . WTF ?


New algorithm uses brain scans to tell how smart you are

Forget about controversial, old-fashioned IQ tests as a measure of intelligence. A new machine-learning algorithm, which was developed by scientists at Caltech, can predict a person’s intellectual ability with unprecedented accuracy

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322329

Goodbye IQ tests brain scans now tell you how smart you are :


"Research from Washington University in St. Louis has identified variations in brain scans that they believe identify portions of the brain that are responsible for intelligence . As suspected (and as explained by cartoons) brain size does play a small role; they said that brain size accounts for 6.7 percent of variance in intelligence. Recent research has placed the brain's prefrontal cortex, a region just behind the forehead, as providing for 5 percent of the variation in intelligence between people. The research from Washington University targets the left prefrontal cortex, and the strength of neural connections that it has to the rest of the brain. They think these differences account for 10 percent of differences in intelligence among people. The study is the first to connect those differences to intelligence in people."


https://www.jneurosci.org/content/32/26/8988.abstract

^ the latter is an older study it is much more advanced now and ready for prime time.

So, let us get this straight Frank mister high IQ. I'm living in the times AI, CRISPR, computer science, Quantum computing etc... but we are supposed to use pencil and paper and sociology instead of biology, physics and computer science to determine how smart someone is ? How do you not realize how stupid you sound right now ?

Friends of Oliver Society
01-22-2022, 04:30 AM
You are an idiot you claim that I just posted one study instead of showing that IQ is obsolete. Yeah, retard let me use a pen and paper and sociology instead of computer science and physics etc... to measure intelligence . WTF ?


New algorithm uses brain scans to tell how smart you are

Forget about controversial, old-fashioned IQ tests as a measure of intelligence. A new machine-learning algorithm, which was developed by scientists at Caltech, can predict a person’s intellectual ability with unprecedented accuracy

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322329

Goodbye IQ tests brain scans now tell you how smart you are :


"Research from Washington University in St. Louis has identified variations in brain scans that they believe identify portions of the brain that are responsible for intelligence . As suspected (and as explained by cartoons) brain size does play a small role; they said that brain size accounts for 6.7 percent of variance in intelligence. Recent research has placed the brain's prefrontal cortex, a region just behind the forehead, as providing for 5 percent of the variation in intelligence between people. The research from Washington University targets the left prefrontal cortex, and the strength of neural connections that it has to the rest of the brain. They think these differences account for 10 percent of differences in intelligence among people. The study is the first to connect those differences to intelligence in people."


https://www.jneurosci.org/content/32/26/8988.abstract

^ the latter is an older study it is much more advanced now and ready for prime time.

So, let us get this straight Frank mister high IQ. I'm living in the times AI, CRISPR, computer science, Quantum computing etc... but we are supposed to use pencil and paper and sociology instead of biology, physics and computer science to determine how smart someone is ? How do you not realize how stupid you sound right now ?

I want you to know I didn't read any of that. You lost the argument the moment you posted a study that undermined your own argument and strengthened mine. Instead, I'm watching videos about knee picks.

You're free to watch along with me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG2z6ArQl3c

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 04:42 AM
Why do you insist on proving you're a moron to me? I'm speaking of a century of studies. Ironically it was you who provided a recent study contradicting centuries of work and yet you don't see the relevancy of your last post with the study you referrenced.

You're an idiot. Now stop annoying me, or I'll ankle pick you, bro.

Also, genetic tests are going or already have obsoleted IQ tests. So we genetics tests and medical brain scans with computer algorithms that have obsoleted traditional IQ tests but you trying to maintain some obsoleted deprecated technology called IQ.

Here is a genetic test for $59 that tells you how smart you are ! Oh, look IQ is outdated retard :

https://sequencing.com/genetic-test-for-iq-cognitive-function

Oh, look is proven by science that is biology (genetics) instead the pseudo-science of psychology that I have superior intelligence


https://i.postimg.cc/GhMVRgG7/smart.png

Oh, yeah, let me waste my time taking some pseudo-scientific sociological psychological test instead testing my genetics for intelligence ! LULZ

Figaro
01-22-2022, 04:44 AM
I want you to know I didn't read any of that. You lost the argument the moment you posted a study that undermined your own argument and strengthened mine. Instead, I'm watching videos about knee picks.

You're free to watch along with me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG2z6ArQl3c

Grimes extends an olive branch.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 04:49 AM
I want you to know I didn't read any of that. You lost the argument the moment you posted a study that undermined your own argument and strengthened mine. Instead, I'm watching videos about knee picks.

You're free to watch along with me.



Lost the argument ? here is the summation :

Frank Grimes : I'm a mental retard living in the horse and buggy age of Alfred Binet even though Binet knew his time restricted test could not truly measure intelligence but was really used for weeding out troubelsome school children in the the early 20th century. IQ tests : the best 1904 had to offer.

Jamesbond007 : I'm living in the age of AI, CRISPR, Quantum computer etc... and I had my genetics tested and it shows I have superior intelligence.

^ Yeah, ok , man I don't what kind of drugs you are on but sound like a moron.

Friends of Oliver Society
01-22-2022, 05:08 AM
Lost the argument ? here is the summation :

Frank Grimes : I'm a mental retard living in the horse and buggy age of Alfred Binet even though Binet knew his time restricted test could not truly measure intelligence but was really used for weeding out troubelsome school children in the the early 20th century. IQ tests : the best 1904 had to offer.

Jamesbond007 : I'm living in the age of AI, CRISPR, Quantum computer etc... and I had my genetics tested and it shows I have superior intelligence.

^ Yeah, ok , man I don't what kind of drugs you are on but sound like a moron.

Here is the summation:

Me: there is a century's worth of data.

You: LOOK AT THIS STUDY I HAVE!!!!

Also, you: RECENT STUDIES ARE SUSPECT!!! LET ME PUT IN BOLD THIS ONE SENTENCE BECAUSE I DON't UNDERSTAND THE REST!!!!!

Me: we're talking about study after study after study over many years coming to the same conclusion. Aren't you contradicting yourself by posting a study that - or I should say the only part you understood in bold- to undermine my argument when in fact it puts your own study in question?

You: HORSE AND BUGGY!!! HORSE AND BUGGY!!!!!

Here is another example of how you're a complete moron:


Also, genetic tests are going or already have obsoleted IQ tests. So we genetics tests and medical brain scans with computer algorithms that have obsoleted traditional IQ tests but you trying to maintain some obsoleted deprecated technology called IQ.

Dummy, what genes are associated with intelligence are discovered through IQ test results of people who score high.

Friends of Oliver Society
01-22-2022, 05:17 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/GhMVRgG7/smart.png

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More evidence that you're dumb. You spent money on this shit. We don't know enough about genes and intelligence to come to such a conclusion but it is amusing how they discover what genes are supposedly associated with intelligence is based on people who score very high on IQ tests.

Thanks again for your help. I didn't need it but I appreciate you supporting my argument with more evidence.

btw, significantly above average isn't all that impressive. It matches your IQ score, which is 114. That is considered significantly above average.

Once again, I thank you.

Friends of Oliver Society
01-22-2022, 05:30 AM
Also, genetic tests are going or already have obsoleted IQ tests. So we genetics tests and medical brain scans with computer algorithms that have obsoleted traditional IQ tests but you trying to maintain some obsoleted deprecated technology called IQ.
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Did you even read the article? No, you didn't.


Brain scans vs. intelligence scores
“We are doing very well,” Dubois continues, “but we are still quite far from being able to match the results of hour-long intelligence tests, like the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale.”

He continues, pointing out another potential study weakness. “Since the algorithm is trained on intelligence scores to begin with,” he says, “how do we know that the intelligence scores are correct?”
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322329#Brain-scans-vs.-intelligence-scores

You didn't even read your own article. Why should I give you a minute of my time when you don't read the sources you post?

Dumb as fuck.

Purple Panther
01-22-2022, 05:46 AM
This reminds me of a friend of mine in high school who hated jocks. What he really hated was he couldn't be one of them. He didn't have the talent.

Oh, you have a study? That certainly beats a century worth of studies.

As the kids say, cope harder.

Because you are unfortunately stupid you repeat the common misunderstanding that a number can measure IQ. No one thinks that. It's understood IQ gives you a reasonable estimate. It's also understood someone with an IQ of 114 isn't as intelligent as someone who scores 134. The last time I thought of this subject, I was reading about IQ tests given to fighter pilots in the late 50s, and it shouldn't be surprising you weren't going to make the cut. The lowest score was 120. Almost all were above 130. That didn't surprise me. Does that surprise you? I bring this up to show the relevance but like my friend you're just mad. It's not his fault he wasn't born a natural athlete. It's not your fault you're stupid and crazy. But it is the reality.

Anyway, this thread isn't about psychometrics.

He claimed that I thought that I was smarter than other forum members or some such nonsense, but I never posted a thing like that since I joined the forum. He projects more than all of the cineplexes in the world, combined. I invited him to play "Jeopardy", in real time, with me, but he said "I hear my mom, so I have to go now". 114, huh? LOL

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 05:58 AM
Here is another example of how you're a complete moron:



Dummy, what genes are associated with intelligence are discovered through IQ test results of people who score high.

So, genetic tests show I have superior IQ but you insist I'm a moron ? You just proved you are a moron by contradicting yourself :


Frank Grimes : IQ is legit and your genetic test shows you have superior intelligence based on IQ studies but you are moron.

^ that sentence is 100% illogical and incoherent you contradicted yourself :


4.11 The totality of true propositions is the whole of natural science
4.461 Propositions show what they say; tautologies and contradictions show that they say nothing.
4.464 A tautology's truth is certain, a proposition's possible, a contradiction's impossible.


http://sqapo.com/wittgenstein.jpg

But let us bring back to the true reason why you are moron instead going way off topic :

Davidski contradicted himself K13 says I'm Celt and K15/G25 shows that I'm Anglo-Saxon or Germanic :

4.464 A tautology's truth is certain, a proposition's possible, a contradiction's impossible.


^ get the fuck out here with your mental retardation bro for realz ?

http://sqapo.com/wittgenstein.htm

I already explained to you my reasoning for the other stuff but you said " I did not read any of it" meaning you could not refute it or just simply a moron as you have already shown right here for contradicting yourself.:picard2:

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 06:03 AM
Did you even read the article? No, you didn't.



You didn't even read your own article. Why should I give you a minute of my time when you don't read the sources you post?

Dumb as fuck.

Really what year was that published genius and there have been no advancements ? That shit published years ago do know how long years is in computer science ? Have you ever heard of Moore's law ? You are dumb as fuck.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 06:14 AM
Did you even read the article? No, you didn't.



You didn't even read your own article. Why should I give you a minute of my time when you don't read the sources you post?

Dumb as fuck.

Nigga, you dumb as fuck I already explained to you that sociology does not follow the laws of physics and that all true science has to follow the laws of physics. To say psychology follows the laws of physics is nonsensical at best :

4.11 The totality of true propositions is the whole of natural science

IQ and psychology are not natural sciences how are you so fucking stupid ?


Ludwig Wittgenstein, 1921
Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
"The world is the totality of facts, not of things"


1 The world is all that is the case.
1.1 The world is the totality of facts, not of things.
2.04 The totality of existing states of affairs is the world.
2.12 A picture is a model of reality.
2.141 A picture is a fact.
2.172 A picture cannot depict its pictorial form: it displays it.
2.19 Logical pictures can depict the world.
2.223 In order to tell whether a picture is true or false we must compare it with reality.
2.224 It is impossible to tell from the picture alone whether it is true or false.
3 A logical picture of facts is a thought.
3.01 The totality of true thoughts is a picture of the world.
3.1 In a proposition a thought finds an expression that can be perceived by the senses.
3.3 Only propositions have sense; only in the nexus of a proposition does a name have meaning.
3.332 No proposition can make a statement about itself, because a propositional sign cannot be contained in itself.
4 A thought is a proposition with a sense.
4.001 The totality of propositions is language.
4.003 Most of the propositions and questions to be found in philosophical works are not false but nonsensical.
4.0031 All philosophy is a 'critique of language'. The apparent logical form of a proposition need not be its real one.
4.11 The totality of true propositions is the whole of natural science
4.461 Propositions show what they say; tautologies and contradictions show that they say nothing.
4.464 A tautology's truth is certain, a proposition's possible, a contradiction's impossible.
5.6 The limits of my language mean the limits of my world.
5.61 We cannot think what we cannot think; so what we cannot think we cannot say either.
5.621 The world and life are one.
5.63 I am my world. (The microcosm.)
6.13 Logic is not a body of doctrine, but a mirror-image of the world. Logic is transcendental.
6.2 Mathematics is a logical method.
6.41 The sense of the world must lie outside the world.
6.431 At death the world does not alter, but comes to an end.
6.4311 Death is not an event in life: we do not live to experience death.
6.44 It is not how things are in the world that is mystical, but that it exists.
6.54 He who understands my propositions recognizes them as senseless. (He must so to speak throw away the ladder, after he has climbed up it.) [ I am not following this rule here strictly speaking and I don't care] --Jamesbond007
7 What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence.

http://sqapo.com/wittgenstein.htm

Ludwig Josef Johann Wittgenstein (/ˈvɪtɡənʃtaɪn, -staɪn/ VIT-gən-s(h)tyne;[14] German: [ˈluːtvɪç ˈjoːzɛf 'joːhan ˈvɪtɡn̩ʃtaɪn]; 26 April 1889 – 29 April 1951) was an Austrian-British philosopher who worked primarily in logic, the philosophy of mathematics, the philosophy of mind, and the philosophy of language.[15] He is considered to be one of the greatest philosophers of the modern era


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/35._Portrait_of_Wittgenstein.jpg

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 06:32 AM
He claimed that I thought that I was smarter than other forum members or some such nonsense, but I never posted a thing like that since I joined the forum. He projects more than all of the cineplexes in the world, combined. I invited him to play "Jeopardy", in real time, with me, but he said "I hear my mom, so I have to go now". 114, huh? LOL

It is really very simple Isaac Asimov among others has explained that physics is the king of the sciences and that all real sciences must obey the laws of physics. Mathematics is the Queen of the sciences and physics follows rigorous mathematical standards unlike psychology and psychometry which followed shoddy statistical methods. Since, psychology does not follow the laws of physics and uses shoddy non-rigorous math IQ is pseudo-science :


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e4/31/8e/e4318e15cdffad324c03c1b19a7b1173.jpg


You have to be a complete retard to even begin claiming IQ is legit science and that is what Frank Grimes apparently is a complete moron.

There is no need to complicate this.

Scandal
01-22-2022, 06:41 AM
So you are trolling an entire nation because of one guy who lives in Australia and because you don't score what you would prefer to see?
This is one of the "only on Apricity" moments. That is why I love this place.

Dirdepo
01-22-2022, 06:47 AM
So then make better version software genetic. Why diva performance tho you have a high estrogen

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 07:18 AM
So then make better version software genetic. Why diva performance tho you have a high estrogen

So what we have here is source code :

http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/download.html

If one does not like this data set :


http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/images/2d.jpg

I guess one could change the data set perhaps ? I dunno, I did not look at the source code.

So on the one hand we have tools like SPA and this :

https://uqrmaie1.github.io/admixtools/articles/recipes.html

The better software already exists but is not as easy to use.

Peterski
01-22-2022, 08:24 AM
Davidski is Dr Wolfgang Haak according to this blog post - https://web.archive.org/web/20180606231557/https://linearpopulationmodel.blogspot.com/2015/01/bullying-in-genome-blogosphere-by.html

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 08:42 AM
Davidski is Dr Wolfgang Haak according to this blog post - https://web.archive.org/web/20180606231557/https://linearpopulationmodel.blogspot.com/2015/01/bullying-in-genome-blogosphere-by.html

Might be true but I can't believe everything I read right and I'm not going to read that.


In any event here is my updated K13 because Leto wanted it :

Distance to: James
3.28685260 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
3.39911753 Irish_Leinster
3.49971427 Scottish_North-Highlands
3.68012228 Scottish_Northeast
3.68457596 Welsh
3.69176110 Irish
3.69966215 Scottish_East
3.75371816 Scottish_Southwest
3.77119345 Scottish
3.89172198 Irish_Connacht
4.13269888 Irish_Ulster
4.15972355 Irish_Munster
4.39963635 English_North
4.42910826 Orcadian
4.70849233 English
4.71799746 English_Southwest
4.83990702 German_Westphalia
4.85015464 English_Midlands
5.24109721 English_Southeast
5.25014286 German_Lower_Saxony_South
5.35856324 Icelandic
5.54208445 Dutch
5.60524754 Dutch_Central
6.01898663 Dutch_North
6.23052967 German_Lower_Saxony_North

^ so the Scottish Gaeltecht or Gaelic region is 25% like German or something ? Yeah, that is wrong I'm 25% German that is significant since when are non-lowland Scots similar to Germans ?

Target: James
Distance: 1.5941% / 1.59405486
83.6 Irish_Ulster
5.4 Basque_France
4.1 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
3.0 Dargin
2.8 Sámi_Finland
0.6 Papuan
0.5 Baka

^ hmmm LULZ

My K15 Vahaduo :

Distance to: James
2.51001992 English_Midlands
2.65539074 English
2.70553137 Welsh
2.77180447 English_North
2.85234991 English_Southeast
2.92791735 English_Southwest
3.78173241 Scottish
3.79258487 Dutch
4.01365170 Irish_Leinster
4.05398569 Dutch_Central
4.29625418 French_Brittany
4.44009009 Irish
4.50515261 Cornish
4.55927626 Irish_Munster
4.72572746 Irish_Connacht
4.87638186 Irish_Ulster
4.96175372 Dutch_South
5.49678997 West_Scottish
5.53851966 Orcadian
6.32005538 Belgian
6.33011058 Dutch_North
6.52981623 Afrikaner
6.67340243 North_German
6.99241017 Danish
7.58067279 Norway

Target: James
Distance: 1.6837% / 1.68366406
82.6 Welsh
9.6 Norway
3.3 West_Norwegian
1.4 Sardinian
0.8 Chechen
0.7 Mari
0.6 Yoruban
0.5 Papuan
0.4 Selkup
0.1 Chuvash

^ LULZ

So, we already saw my G25 right it says I'm relatively closely related to the Dutch and Norwegians. Let me tell you something there should a unspoken known rule in anthropology and genetics -- under no circumstances does one confuse Celts (Irish and Scottish Gaeltecht) with Anglo-Saxons and Germanic Dutch. That is really the bottom line and Davidski fucked up there.

Purple Panther
01-22-2022, 09:07 AM
It is really very simple Isaac Asimov among others has explained that physics is the king of the sciences and that all real sciences must obey the laws of physics. Mathematics is the Queen of the sciences and physics follows rigorous mathematical standards unlike psychology and psychometry which followed shoddy statistical methods. Since, psychology does not follow the laws of physics and uses shoddy non-rigorous math IQ is pseudo-science :


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e4/31/8e/e4318e15cdffad324c03c1b19a7b1173.jpg


You have to be a complete retard to even begin claiming IQ is legit science and that is what Frank Grimes apparently is a complete moron.

There is no need to complicate this.

There is no need to complicate this? Those are words to live by, my tightly wound Gaelic Irish man.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 09:08 AM
Davidski is Dr Wolfgang Haak according to this blog post - https://web.archive.org/web/20180606231557/https://linearpopulationmodel.blogspot.com/2015/01/bullying-in-genome-blogosphere-by.html

Here is my Eurasian advanced analysis yourdnaportal:


Celtic Briton : 50%

The Brittons (Old English Bryttas, Welsh: Brythoniaid, Cornish: Brythonion, Breton: brezhoned) also known as Celtic Britons or Ancient Britons, were indigenous Celtic people who inhabited Great Britain from at least the British Iron Age into the Middle Ages, at which point their culture and language diverged into the modern Welsh, Cornish and Bretons (among others). They spoke the Common Brittonic language, the ancestor to the modern Brittonic languages.

References: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms10326

Germanic Suebi

Germanic Suebi : 50%

The Suebi (or Suebians, also spelled Suevi, Suavi) were a large group of Germanic peoples originally from the Elbe river region in what is now Germany and the Czech Republic. In the early Roman era they included many peoples with their own names such as the Marcomanni, Quadi, Hermunduri, Semnones, and Lombards. New groupings formed later such as the Alamanni and Bavarians and two kingdoms in the Migration Period were simply referred to as Suebian.

References: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aao1262



Groningen : 50%

Groningen is the capital city and main municipality of Groningen province in the Netherlands. It is the largest city in the north of the Netherlands. As of December 2020, it had 233,218 inhabitants. It has a land area of 168.93 km2 (65.22 sq mi), and a total area, including water, of 180.21 km2 (69.58 sq mi). Its population density is 1,367 residents per km2 (3,540 per square mile). On 1 January 2019, it was merged with the municipalities of Ten Boer and Haren. The Groningen-Assen metropolitan area has about half a million inhabitants. Groningen is a university city, and students comprise an estimated 25% of its total population. Groningen was established more than 950 years ago. Historically, it was a semi-independent city-state, a member of the Hanseatic League, and the dominant regional power in the north of the Netherlands.


Wales : 50%

Wales (Welsh: Cymru [ˈkəm.rɨ] KUM-ree) is a country that is part of the United Kingdom. It is bordered by England to the east, the Irish Sea to the north and west, and the Bristol Channel to the south.

^ So what see when you see that ? Do you see simply Welsh and German ? You would be wrong so Suebi, right, that is where the Swaefas Anglo-Saxon tribe is the same tribe and settled in Swaffham England.

Davidski ? He would say that my 25% German or 50% Germanic is not Anglo-Saxon something like in a retarded fit of splitting hairs.

I don't understand why people want all this autistic hairsplitting people do and if they wanted to do it the right tool for the job is Qadm/Admixtools2, right ? Even then if you are not a academic you probably wasting your time with that.

rothaer
01-22-2022, 09:19 AM
(...) As an American I don't think you understand Polish people are a problem in Britain so much so that is a major reason for Brexit. (...)

Can you explain that strong dislike briefly in two sentences just? I'm curious. (It's hard to find people who can and are ready to openly tell.)

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 09:24 AM
There is no need to complicate this? Those are words to live by, my tightly wound Gaelic Irish man.

Yeah, sorry, I'm tightly wound because I drank too much coffee. So, let us uncomplicate this right ? How do we do that ? I already did that :



Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius—and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.“ --Albert Einstein

My man, how does it get any simpler than this ? :


http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/

http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/23andme.html


https://i.postimg.cc/QtH07MrG/ancestry.png

https://i.postimg.cc/4ytyD9j1/guy-long-hair.gif

Purple Panther
01-22-2022, 09:28 AM
Yeah, sorry, I'm tightly wound because I drank too much coffee. So, let us uncomplicate this right ? How do we do that ? I already did that :



Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius—and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.“ --Albert Einstein

My man, how does it get any simpler than this ? :


http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/

http://genetics.cs.ucla.edu/spa/23andme.html


https://i.postimg.cc/QtH07MrG/ancestry.png

https://i.postimg.cc/4ytyD9j1/guy-long-hair.gif

You missed the point, as it went right over your Gaelic Irish head. *You* needlessly complicate things!

rothaer
01-22-2022, 09:28 AM
(...)
So, we already saw my G25 right it says I'm relatively closely related to the Dutch and Norwegians. Let me tell you something there should a unspoken known rule in anthropology and genetics -- under no circumstances does one confuse Celts (Irish and Scottish Gaeltecht) with Anglo-Saxons and Germanic Dutch. That is really the bottom line and Davidski fucked up there.

He obviously sees this himself after he provides separate "Celtic-Germanic" coords for that separation.

And btw. all Eurogenes calculators except K36, this means also G25, are unable to distingusih a Germanic-Slavic mixture from a North Germanic-Finnic mixture. Eastern Germans are often confused with some sort of Northern Swedes and Southwest Finns. This is an annoying weakness of G25.

Jana
01-22-2022, 09:32 AM
You should explore more your SSA ancestry.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 09:58 AM
Can you explain that strong dislike briefly in two sentences just? I'm curious. (It's hard to find people who can and are ready to openly tell.)

Listen I heard some English people talking about it but I'm originally from New York I just think that more Americans are of English ancestry than they realize but they hyper-focus on small ancestry like Irish or German instead of English. In England someone can easily have an Irish grandparent but they don't say they are Irish. I don't want to speak for the actual English from England since I was raised in America. So, your best bet is to try to find an honest Englishman on the subject. If I had venture to guess I think it would come down to the English viewing everyone except Irish, Welsh and Scottish as foriegners and polish people taking jobs from the natives and their chav or Eastern European non-Aryan behavior. I really did not want to use the word Aryan but you are German so I used it. However, I can't speak for the actual English in England.

The English view Americans as English people but that there was a simple misunderstanding between nations and that we would should speak proper English or something, I dunno, that is way it seems to me.

Purple Panther
01-22-2022, 10:10 AM
Listen I heard some English people talking about it but I'm originally from New York I just think that more Americans are of English ancestry than they realize but they hyper-focus on small ancestry like Irish or German instead of English. In England someone can easily have an Irish grandparent but they don't say they are Irish. I don't want to speak for the actual English from England since I was raised in America. So, your best bet is to try to find an honest Englishman on the subject. If I had venture to guess I think it would come down to the English viewing everyone except Irish, Welsh and Scottish as foriegners and polish people taking jobs from the natives and their chav or Eastern European non-Aryan behavior. I really did not want to use the word Aryan but you are German so I used it. However, I can't speak for the actual English in England.

The English view Americans as English people but that there was a simple misunderstanding between nations and that we would should speak proper English or something, I dunno, that is way it seems to me.

You should write more comments like that. It sounds natural, not like a performance art piece.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 10:18 AM
You should explore more your SSA ancestry.

I should right ? Because some Polack untermensch (Eurogenes) and perhaps some Greek monkey (dodecad) science says I'm part black , right ? I always trust Greek monkeys and Polack untermensch :

The majority of English people remain innately mistrustful of ‘abroad’ – dodgy food, dodgy water, dodgy plumbing, and, worst of all, dodgy foreigners.


https://i.postimg.cc/xjt68ppH/England.jpg


"Hello, how do you do ? I'm a foreign Greek monkey no wait an Untermensch Polack and I here to tell you that you are part black or SSA. Yeah, seems legit , Not !'

Jana
01-22-2022, 10:33 AM
^^^^no need to overcomplicate simple things. You are American and low level of SSA ancestry (like 1%) is present among quite a few white Americans.
It's nobody's problem but yours you find it unpleasant.

Roy
01-22-2022, 10:44 AM
Damn, you must be bored out of your mind to be willing to write those elaborate rants.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 10:50 AM
You should explore more your SSA ancestry.

So, what about my SSA ancestry ? Let us go to real deal WASPs from England what do they say about my ancestry ? Am I part black ? Oh , look British scientists are saying I'm not part SSA so instead of trusting the British I'm going to trust some Greek monkeys and Polack untermensch ? What planet are you people from exactly ?


https://livingdna.com/

https://i.postimg.cc/05dxXS5Z/british.png

Purple Panther
01-22-2022, 10:53 AM
So, what about my SSA ancestry ? Let us go to real deal WASPs from England what do they say about my ancestry ? Am I part black ? Oh , look British scientists are saying I'm not part SSA so instead of trusting the British I'm going to trust some Greek monkeys and Polack untermensch ? What planet are you people from exactly ?


https://livingdna.com/

https://i.postimg.cc/05dxXS5Z/british.png

Look at what's on top. I bet that your Irish eyes were smiling when you saw *that*.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 11:37 AM
^^^^no need to overcomplicate simple things. You are American and low level of SSA ancestry (like 1%) is present among quite a few white Americans.
It's nobody's problem but yours you find it unpleasant.

Right, I'm American I'm practically British isles ancestry at least if not of English ancestry. What I find totally mind boggling , right ? Is that anyone can start a blog on internet , right ? So I am some random dude not scientist or academician or professor. I'm just some Greek monkey with a blog or some Polack untermensch with a blog but someone having a blog gives these creatures the authority to say I'm 1% SSA ?

Greeks and Polacks (slavs) are not white let a lone Aryan. Black Irish chimps, Greek monkeys and slavics are not 'white' let a lone Aryan.

rothaer
01-22-2022, 12:04 PM
(...) polish people taking jobs from the natives and their chav or Eastern European non-Aryan behavior.

I know that "Anglo-Celtic" praised your comment in total as good and natural. But in fact this is no information.

In Germany Poles are also disliked (as a group), but the aversion is not extreme. No problem with saying "non-Aryan" etc. but I simply don't really get it. The UK is flooded by negroes and Pakis from the former or current Commonwealth, but the strongest reaction is towards Poles? I never got to hear a clear explanation. It's like trying to nail a pudding at the wall. Do there lack balls or words for explaining this? If it's up to me to "read between the lines" then I must admit that I maybe lack skills for that.

Essentially you said that you don't know, but you guess something. But do Poles behave more "non-Aryan" than Pakis and negroes?

Can anyone explain more exact the English aversion towards particularly Poles?

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 12:05 PM
Look at what's on top. I bet that your Irish eyes were smiling when you saw *that*.

Yeah, I think they might perhaps be confusing 'Irish' with 'Welsh'. I don't deny that I'm part celtic I just doubt if it is really 'Irish' sometimes. I definitely rather be part 'Irish' than part southern European, or slavic or black. So, yeah, I guess it is possible I'm significantly 'Irish'.

rothaer
01-22-2022, 12:11 PM
Look at what's on top. I bet that your Irish eyes were smiling when you saw *that*.

Actually "JamesBond007" expresses somewhat more chav Irish than English. Just an impression. I might be wrong.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 12:14 PM
I know that "Anglo-Celtic" praised your comment in total as good and natural. But in fact this is no information.

In Germany Poles are also disliked (as a group), but the aversion is not extreme. No problem with saying "non-Aryan" etc. but I simply don't really get it. The UK is flooded by negroes and Pakis from the former or current Commonwealth, but the strongest reaction is towards Poles? I never got to hear a clear explanation. It's like trying to nail a pudding at the wall. Do there lack balls or words for explaining this? If it's up to me to "read between the lines" then I must admit that I maybe lack skills for that.

Essentially you said that you don't know, but you guess something. But do Poles behave more "non-Aryan" than Pakis and negroes?

Can anyone explain more exact the English aversion towards particularly Poles?

What you essentially want me to do is speak on behalf of the English when I was not even born in England I just heard through the grapevine that Polish immigration to England was a significant factor in Brexit coming into fruition.



Can anyone explain more exact the English aversion towards particularly Poles?

Are you playing dumb ? You know Western Europeans look down on Eastern Europeans. "Hello, I'm Ivan or Igor I'm cannon fodder janitor with a gun for the French Foreign Legions because Eastern Europe is a shithole".

Jana
01-22-2022, 12:31 PM
Actually "JamesBond007" expresses somewhat more chav Irish than English. Just an impression. I might be wrong.

He is mostly Irish, so your estimation is spot on.

rothaer
01-22-2022, 12:33 PM
What you essentially want me to do is speak on behalf of the English when I was not even born in England I just heard through the grapevine that Polish immigration to England was a significant factor in Brexit coming into fruition.

Yes, I heard the same and I believe it will be applicable. Of course, you can not explain it if you don't know it yourself. No problem. I just thought you maybe could.


Are you playing dumb ? You know Western Europeans look down on Eastern Europeans. "Hello, I'm Ivan or Igor I'm cannon fodder janitor with a gun for the French Foreign Legions because Eastern Europe is a shithole".

I know this and also Germans do feel superior to that. But there regularly is not that hatred or extreme aversion. The UK has so much more "bigger shithole" origin immigrants (Africa, India) than that so this "Eastern European shithole" to me appears somewhat as a pretext. It will in fact be something else.

Is it maybe that all "Commonwealth niggas" accept the English as their lords and the chronical disobeying Poles are ignorant and do not? I guess it might be something like that.

Ion Basescul
01-22-2022, 12:35 PM
I know that "Anglo-Celtic" praised your comment in total as good and natural. But in fact this is no information.

In Germany Poles are also disliked (as a group), but the aversion is not extreme. No problem with saying "non-Aryan" etc. but I simply don't really get it. The UK is flooded by negroes and Pakis from the former or current Commonwealth, but the strongest reaction is towards Poles? I never got to hear a clear explanation. It's like trying to nail a pudding at the wall. Do there lack balls or words for explaining this? If it's up to me to "read between the lines" then I must admit that I maybe lack skills for that.

Essentially you said that you don't know, but you guess something. But do Poles behave more "non-Aryan" than Pakis and negroes?

Can anyone explain more exact the English aversion towards particularly Poles?

It is more acceptable to say that you don't want Poles, Romanians, Bulgarians, Lithuanians than to say any other ethnicity outside of Europe. They would get cancelled and labelled racist pretty quickly.

Jana
01-22-2022, 12:35 PM
I know that "Anglo-Celtic" praised your comment in total as good and natural. But in fact this is no information.

In Germany Poles are also disliked (as a group), but the aversion is not extreme. No problem with saying "non-Aryan" etc. but I simply don't really get it. The UK is flooded by negroes and Pakis from the former or current Commonwealth, but the strongest reaction is towards Poles? I never got to hear a clear explanation. It's like trying to nail a pudding at the wall. Do there lack balls or words for explaining this? If it's up to me to "read between the lines" then I must admit that I maybe lack skills for that.

Essentially you said that you don't know, but you guess something. But do Poles behave more "non-Aryan" than Pakis and negroes?

Can anyone explain more exact the English aversion towards particularly Poles?

Because racism towards Pakis and other brown people is not tolerated in UK, while xenophobia towards other whites like Poles is okay. It doesn't mean Brits prefer Pakis to Poles, it's just that there are legal and social consequences for targeting browns but not Poles.

rothaer
01-22-2022, 12:47 PM
Because racism towards Pakis and other brown people is not tolerated in UK, while xenophobia towards other whites like Poles is okay. It doesn't mean Brits prefer Pakis to Poles, it's just that there are legal and social consequences for targeting browns but not Poles.

Stearsolina and Ion Basescul: That would be a possibility, yes.

But I hoped to maybe get a clear answer from an "insider". I really can also imagine the English to be very upset and judgemental about the Slavic genuine disobeying and ignorance (with Poles as a proxy for that). I guess they have never experienced that in their Commonwealth and may consider it as an ultimate no-go, close to a mutiny. In Germany that's well known of Poles, but it doesn't upset or shock anyone - however, the last 1,000 years.

Defcon2
01-22-2022, 01:07 PM
Yeah, I think they might perhaps be confusing 'Irish' with 'Welsh'. I don't deny that I'm part celtic I just doubt if it is really 'Irish' sometimes. I definitely rather be part 'Irish' than part southern European, or slavic or black. So, yeah, I guess it is possible I'm significantly 'Irish'.

You are part nigga, join the club of S.Euros, slavics and blacks.

Ajeje Brazorf
01-22-2022, 01:49 PM
Hi TEUTORIGOS. An English person may not have the English as his closest population essentially because that is part of the internal variation. Several English people score the Dutch first or other non-English on a calculator that you think is accurate, such as Eurogenes K15.


Distance to: Jackson(English)
3.60341505 Dutch_South
4.13462211 Dutch
4.34466339 Afrikaner

Distance to: TribalSky(English)
6.02454978 Cornish
6.52438503 French_Brittany
7.30919284 Afrikaner

Distance to: Norb(English)
4.46102006 Dutch_South
5.20588129 Dutch
5.25771814 Belgian

Distance to: SvartVarg(English)
2.91111662 Dutch_Central
2.95883423 Dutch
4.15761951 English_Midlands

Distance to: Jackson_mother(English)
6.09470262 Afrikaner
6.38664231 French_Alsace
6.40515417 German_Bavarian

Distance to: Jackson_father(English)
4.40204498 Dutch
4.74188781 Dutch_Central
5.41577326 Dutch_North

Distance to: Jackson_gfather(Eng)
4.21222032 Dutch_Central
4.27807200 Dutch
4.66094411 Danish

Ion Basescul
01-22-2022, 01:50 PM
double

Scandal
01-22-2022, 02:00 PM
I know that "Anglo-Celtic" praised your comment in total as good and natural. But in fact this is no information.

In Germany Poles are also disliked (as a group), but the aversion is not extreme. No problem with saying "non-Aryan" etc. but I simply don't really get it. The UK is flooded by negroes and Pakis from the former or current Commonwealth, but the strongest reaction is towards Poles? I never got to hear a clear explanation. It's like trying to nail a pudding at the wall. Do there lack balls or words for explaining this? If it's up to me to "read between the lines" then I must admit that I maybe lack skills for that.

Essentially you said that you don't know, but you guess something. But do Poles behave more "non-Aryan" than Pakis and negroes?

Can anyone explain more exact the English aversion towards particularly Poles?
JamesBond is an American and he's just trolling/shitposting, he probably doesn't even have experience with any Polish people. But yeah, Eastern Europeans are not popular in UK, same thing in every other western European country. (some of the "Eastern Europeans" in Western Europe are gypsies too).
Black people have a great presence in popular culture (sports, movies, music, comedy etc) which can boost their image despite socio-economic hardships and high crime rates. Being anti-black is very non-pc thing nowadays, on the other hand being against Eastern European immigration is less non-pc. That being said, I don't think native British people are particulary into any of these groups. I doubt Brits prefer Pakis to Poles.

celticdragongod
01-22-2022, 08:22 PM
I know that "Anglo-Celtic" praised your comment in total as good and natural. But in fact this is no information.

In Germany Poles are also disliked (as a group), but the aversion is not extreme. No problem with saying "non-Aryan" etc. but I simply don't really get it. The UK is flooded by negroes and Pakis from the former or current Commonwealth, but the strongest reaction is towards Poles? I never got to hear a clear explanation. It's like trying to nail a pudding at the wall. Do there lack balls or words for explaining this? If it's up to me to "read between the lines" then I must admit that I maybe lack skills for that.

Essentially you said that you don't know, but you guess something. But do Poles behave more "non-Aryan" than Pakis and negroes?

Can anyone explain more exact the English aversion towards particularly Poles?

Polish people are white so it is more socially and politically acceptable to be hostile to them. You will get into a lot more trouble if you are openly hostile to blacks, Jews or Asians.

Leto
01-22-2022, 08:34 PM
Polish people are white so it is more socially and politically acceptable to be hostile to them. You will get into a lot more trouble if you are openly hostile to blacks, Jews or Asians.
It's pretty much the same in Germany, so I don't know why Rothaer is so surprised. The treatment of, say, Russians and Turks (or you can pick an even darker ethnic group) will be different because of race, politics and religion.

Leto
01-22-2022, 09:02 PM
Might be true but I can't believe everything I read right and I'm not going to read that.


In any event here is my updated K13 because Leto wanted it :

Distance to: James
3.28685260 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
3.39911753 Irish_Leinster
3.49971427 Scottish_North-Highlands
3.68012228 Scottish_Northeast
3.68457596 Welsh
3.69176110 Irish
3.69966215 Scottish_East
3.75371816 Scottish_Southwest
3.77119345 Scottish
3.89172198 Irish_Connacht
4.13269888 Irish_Ulster
4.15972355 Irish_Munster
4.39963635 English_North
4.42910826 Orcadian
4.70849233 English
4.71799746 English_Southwest
4.83990702 German_Westphalia
4.85015464 English_Midlands
5.24109721 English_Southeast
5.25014286 German_Lower_Saxony_South
5.35856324 Icelandic
5.54208445 Dutch
5.60524754 Dutch_Central
6.01898663 Dutch_North
6.23052967 German_Lower_Saxony_North

^ so the Scottish Gaeltecht or Gaelic region is 25% like German or something ? Yeah, that is wrong I'm 25% German that is significant since when are non-lowland Scots similar to Germans ?

Target: James
Distance: 1.5941% / 1.59405486
83.6 Irish_Ulster
5.4 Basque_France
4.1 German_East_Prussia_Memelland
3.0 Dargin
2.8 Sámi_Finland
0.6 Papuan
0.5 Baka

I also asked you to post your unsorted components. What's wrong with these results? You do realize Northwest Europeans and especially British Isles people are very similar to each other and sometimes they would score the wrong county or region. For example a Welshman would get Irish and an Irishman would get Welsh. Nothing wrong with that, nobody said these have to be some high-precision tools. And you are a mixed American, I assume. So you're not even fully English or Irish. Just a white guy from New York.

J. Ketch
01-22-2022, 09:51 PM
It's pretty much the same in Germany, so I don't know why Rothaer is so surprised. The treatment of, say, Russians and Turks (or you can pick an even darker ethnic group) will be different because of race, politics and religion.
The only ethnic group that it's completely PC to attack in the UK is British/English people, self-hatred. Any form of hostility to foreigners is frowned upon officially ('xenophobia') - only for Eastern Europeans/other whites it is tolerated, for non-whites it is a 'hate crime'. There is an inverse scale of who is disliked to whom it is PC to insult.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 11:51 PM
Stearsolina and Ion Basescul: That would be a possibility, yes.

But I hoped to maybe get a clear answer from an "insider". I really can also imagine the English to be very upset and judgemental about the Slavic genuine disobeying and ignorance (with Poles as a proxy for that). I guess they have never experienced that in their Commonwealth and may consider it as an ultimate no-go, close to a mutiny. In Germany that's well known of Poles, but it doesn't upset or shock anyone - however, the last 1,000 years.

Ok, this is my best guess as to the English mentality on the issue :

The English view everyone except Irish, Welsh and Scots as foreigners but they have no doubt to their preeminence on the sceptered isles and pakis and 'negroes' are residual blowback from the empire and since commonwealth nations still have contain these demographics its just part of the empire mentality. For instance, I go to a beer store or bodega in New York and I'm served by an Indian thats kind of the empire mentality if that makes sense to you. Poles and Eastern Europeans even though diplomatically useful in WWII really have no current positive role to play in a neo-empire. Not that the British will get a neo-empire but they sort of maybe do through being America's lapdog. In any event since Poles are seen as 'white' one can discriminate against them in furtive liberal fashion unlike negroes and pakis. Furthermore, Poles are Catholic and Catholicism is the one big 'no' in Britain in terms of religion.

JamesBond007
01-22-2022, 11:56 PM
I also asked you to post your unsorted components. What's wrong with these results? You do realize Northwest Europeans and especially British Isles people are very similar to each other and sometimes they would score the wrong county or region. For example a Welshman would get Irish and an Irishman would get Welsh. Nothing wrong with that, nobody said these have to be some high-precision tools. And you are a mixed American, I assume. So you're not even fully English or Irish. Just a white guy from New York.

Because K13 is basically saying I'm like super Gaelic Scottish instead of you know simply Scottish or lowland Scottish and maybe it is correct in that except K15 says I'm like closest to midlands English or something (if I remember correctly) which is a contradiction because super Gaelic Scottish is basically almost Irish so both can't be true since England is Germanic.

So, if these things were honest they would not try to be so specific but more like 23andme or the similar 23andme report I got from sequencing.com that are more general vague. I think K13, K15 and G25 try to dazzle by looking super hairsplitting correct but that is an illusion because the science is not at that level.

Purple Panther
01-23-2022, 12:02 AM
Actually "JamesBond007" expresses somewhat more chav Irish than English. Just an impression. I might be wrong.

You know how it is. His expressions change every week.

JamesBond007
01-23-2022, 12:16 AM
I So you're not even fully English or Irish. Just a white guy from New York.

That is the thing though other legit sources are saying I'm not part Sami or Papuan or Biaka but 100% 'European' and even ignoring that you said I'm not even fully Irish or English, right ? Well, lets say I'm half Irish about and half English/Germanic as my livingdna.com report says that is basically Scottish probably at least in the mind of a mathematical algorithm on this issue. So , it seems it would be right in that I got Scottish in the first part ,right ? Yeah, its probably the wrong Scottish region perhaps AND G25 says closest to Dutch and K15 says closest to English one is either closest to the Irish/Scottish or English/Dutch not both.

JamesBond007
01-23-2022, 12:20 AM
You know how it is. His expressions change every week.

A blunt rude new yorker being confused with a chav for that reason. It is that simple.

Friends of Oliver Society
01-23-2022, 02:07 AM
So, genetic tests show I have superior IQ but you insist I'm a moron ? You just proved you are a moron by contradicting yourself :


It doesn't say you have a superior IQ. Significantly above average isn't superior IQ. You can't read English.


Really what year was that published genius and there have been no advancements ? That shit published years ago do know how long years is in computer science ? Have you ever heard of Moore's law ? You are dumb as fuck.

Then why not post a more recent and relevant article? Lolz.

You: "Let me prove my argument by posting an article that contradicts me. Yeah, that sounds good."

SouthDutch7991
01-23-2022, 03:43 AM
Meet the maker of G25 Davidski :

https://i.postimg.cc/W4PzFrNk/foreigners-061.png


POLES

Racial Characteristics:

A nation known as the Rudimental Reading Class of Europe. Its citizens are turkey-loaf look-alikes descended from a barbarian horde that took a wrong turn on its way to sack Rome.They spent the Middle Ages trying to fight Vikings on horseback and invented breech-loading artillery by pointing their cannons the wrong way around. They didn't know about sexual intercourse until the tenth century, having previously reproduced by raiding warthog litters. In 1947, the Poles became a Communist country under the impression that it was a rite of the Catholic church, and today thew principal exports are snow tires manufactured from their own native deposits of snow.

Good Points:
Easy to beat at contract bridge.

Proper Forms of Address:
Polack, dumbo, lug wrench, kielbasa brain.


My results of G25 :

Distance to: Jamesbond007_scaled
0.02865262 Dutch
0.02966312 Norwegian
0.03097093 Welsh
0.03119617 Irish
0.03153596 Scottish
0.03173767 English
0.03211816 Danish
0.03264251 Orcadian
0.03323573 French_Brittany
0.03424261 English_Cornwall


Target: Jamesbond007_scaled
Distance: 2.3554% / 0.02355385
76.0 Norwegian
17.4 Spanish_Soria
2.8 Darginian
2.6 Finnish_Southeast
0.8 Biaka
0.4 Papuan

Uh, yeah, I can pay only $12 dollars to some amateur Polack on the web with some shady blog and expect legit results ? Yeah, and I also have bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.:picard2:

Meanwhile for $59 at sequencing.com a legit scientific website :

https://sequencing.com/dna-ancestry-genetic-genealogy-report

Jamesbond007 :

Western European (100% European):
71% British or Irish
18% French or German
8% Broadly Northwestern European
Eastern European :
2% Russian
1% Ukrainian



Also, for $20 bucks @ https://sequencing.com/map-my-genes-dna-ancestry-analysis

The bigger the circle the closer the genetic affinity I get pretty big circles for Cornwall England, Kent England and Argyl-Bute Scotland which is to be expected given my above genetic results from sequencing.com :


https://i.postimg.cc/RZMmtRrK/mapgenes.png


Let me be straight here I'm not opposed to be closest to the Dutch or Norwegian but I am opposed to being 'Irish' (I admit my biases which is what you have to do to be scientific) rather my paper trail is about 75% British isles and 25% German/French and sequencing.com matches that almost perfectly unlike G25. I know G5 is not supposed to be taken literally but seen through proxy populations but sequencing.com is just better.


Let us be real do you really expect to pay only $12 to some polack car thieves of German cars and expect real results and precision that it claims to offer ? I paid $59 dollars for sequencing.com and the results speak for themselves. You get what you pay for.

Very similar results to mine

Distance to: South_scaled:AncestryDNA
0.01647729 Welsh
0.01679356 French_Brittany
0.01714784 Dutch
0.01817407 Afrikaner
0.01828431 German
0.01849434 English_Cornwall
0.01872883 English
0.01981588 Belgian
0.02094741 Scottish
0.02125801 French_Pas-de-Calais


Target: South_scaled:AncestryDNA
Distance: 0.5881% / 0.00588108
24.8 Dutch
21.0 Spanish_La_Rioja
19.6 Icelandic
9.8 Danish
9.6 Shetlandic
7.8 Norwegian
3.8 Sorb_Niederlausitz
2.6 Swedish
0.4 Biaka
0.4 Cameroon_Bakoko
0.2 Miao


On paper, and in commercial tests, I get ~60% English, 25% Irish, 15% German. I think it's an issue with American DNA; its too mixed back and forth by time even within a single countries ancestry, it just looks like a mix of some very distant regions.

Leto
01-23-2022, 04:06 AM
Kevin, just close this retarded thread and we'll move on.

Karol Klačansky
01-23-2022, 08:46 AM
Ok, genius, so Queen Elizabeth is Dutch too ?


The House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (/ˌsæks ˌkoʊbɜːɡ ... ˈɡɒθə, -tə/;[1] German: Haus Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha) is a German dynasty. It takes its name from its oldest domain, the Ernestine duchy of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, but its members later sat on the thrones of the United Kingdom, Belgium, Portugal, Bulgaria, and Mexico.

Founded in 1826 by Ernest Anton, the sixth duke of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld, it is a cadet branch of the Saxon House of Wettin. Agnatic branches currently reign in Belgium—]the descendants of Leopold I, and in the United Kingdom—the descendants of Albert, Prince Consort.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Saxe-Coburg_and_Gotha


So, yes, the Queen is partly German.


As it is revealed half of Britons have German blood... Time to embrace your inner Jerry!



Achtung! Mein Gott! The revelation that millions of Brits have German blood coursing through our veins comes as a shock, well, as big as the Blitz.

Leading geneticists and archaeologists have shown that we have been cousins of the Teutons since the dawn of time — ever since the fifth and sixth centuries, in fact.

That, as any schoolboy knows, is when tribes invading from northern Europe pillaged and raped their way across England in their hordes, before settling down to the English way of life. And what the geneticists from University College in London have shown, is that they left their mark on us — indelibly.

After analysing tooth enamel and bones in Anglo-Saxon cemeteries and comparing the genetic make-up of Britons and Germans, they have come to the conclusion that about half of us have German forebears.

Inevitably, the Germans themselves are crowing. ‘There is no use denying it,’ said the magazine Der Spiegel. ‘It is now clear the nation which most dislikes the Germans were once Krauts themselves.’

After a century of bitter rivalry between the Tommies and the Jerries, it is tempting for us to feel deflated by this news. It’s almost as if the Germans are getting the last laugh after losing two World Wars and one World Cup.

Never did that cliché from war films — ‘You know Tommy, vee are ze same, you and I’ — seem so appallingly apt.

But is the news really so bad? After all, don’t we have far more in common with the Germans than we realise? Our rivalry may even stem from our similarities rather than our differences.

Perhaps we should see ourselves as brothers in arms rather than brothers at war. Contentious as it may sound, I would appeal to all of you to embrace your inner Jerry.

Before I go any further, I must make a confession. My late grandmother was German, which makes me enough of a Hun to represent Germany at sport, although quite what sport that would be is unclear.

Even Adolf Hitler admired our fighting spirit

For many years, all too aware of my ancestry, I have bridled at the xenophobia whenever 22 men from our two countries are about to kick a ball around for an hour and a half.

At school, I occasionally had to endure the odd Hitler salute and goose-stepping. Although such displays were hardly bullying, they did make me realise that ‘anti-Germanism’ is so deeply engrained in our culture that a nine-year-old boy can tease another simply because he is one quarter German.

Clearly, I wish I had known then what was revealed yesterday, as I would have been able to tell my tormentors that they were just as German as I.

After all, we have so much in common with the Germans, that it seems ludicrous we are always at loggerheads. For a start, our Royal Family is essentially German, and had not its name been changed to Windsor in 1917, our Queen might have been called Elizabeth Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha.


Quintessentially British: Had the Royal Family not changed its name to Windsor in 1917, our Queen might have been called Elizabeth Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha


Prince Philip, despite being nicknamed ‘Phil the Greek’, is actually a scion of the Danish-German House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, which, let’s face it, sounds about as German as it gets.

But the similarities go much further than the Vindsors, sorry, Windsors.

....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2006584/Half-Britons-German-blood--time-embrace-inner-Jerry.html


Yea it’s common knowledge the entire British royal house is largely of German stock. If your ancestry is 3/4 English and 1/4 German then there’s nothing shocking about u plotting close to the Dutch. If anything it proves G25 is accurate.

Roy
01-24-2022, 01:06 PM
You know how it is. His expressions change every week.

I think he's mentally unstable.

Roy
01-24-2022, 01:11 PM
It's pretty much the same in Germany, so I don't know why Rothaer is so surprised. The treatment of, say, Russians and Turks (or you can pick an even darker ethnic group) will be different because of race, politics and religion.

So did neo-marxism influence Germans so much as I suspect?

Purple Panther
01-25-2022, 01:29 AM
I think he's mentally unstable.

That could be. *I'd* be mentally unstable if I read all of his posts.

Coastal Elite
01-25-2022, 03:01 AM
https://i.imgur.com/e0xk4oL.gif

Russki
01-26-2022, 07:46 AM
So did neo-marxism influence Germans so much as I suspect?

Why do you ask him?

Poland and Hungary are the most vocal about it.

Russki
06-14-2022, 02:01 PM
Meet the maker of G25 Davidski :

https://i.postimg.cc/W4PzFrNk/foreigners-061.png


POLES

Racial Characteristics:

A nation known as the Rudimental Reading Class of Europe. Its citizens are turkey-loaf look-alikes descended from a barbarian horde that took a wrong turn on its way to sack Rome.They spent the Middle Ages trying to fight Vikings on horseback and invented breech-loading artillery by pointing their cannons the wrong way around. They didn't know about sexual intercourse until the tenth century, having previously reproduced by raiding warthog litters. In 1947, the Poles became a Communist country under the impression that it was a rite of the Catholic church, and today thew principal exports are snow tires manufactured from their own native deposits of snow.

Good Points:
Easy to beat at contract bridge.

Proper Forms of Address:
Polack, dumbo, lug wrench, kielbasa brain.

My results of G25 :

Distance to: Jamesbond007_scaled
0.02865262 Dutch
0.02966312 Norwegian
0.03097093 Welsh
0.03119617 Irish
0.03153596 Scottish
0.03173767 English
0.03211816 Danish
0.03264251 Orcadian
0.03323573 French_Brittany
0.03424261 English_Cornwall


Target: Jamesbond007_scaled
Distance: 2.3554% / 0.02355385
76.0 Norwegian
17.4 Spanish_Soria
2.8 Darginian
2.6 Finnish_Southeast
0.8 Biaka
0.4 Papuan

Uh, yeah, I can pay only $12 dollars to some amateur Polack on the web with some shady blog and expect legit results ? Yeah, and I also have bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.:picard2:

Meanwhile for $59 at sequencing.com a legit scientific website :

https://sequencing.com/dna-ancestry-genetic-genealogy-report

Jamesbond007 :

Western European (100% European):
71% British or Irish
18% French or German
8% Broadly Northwestern European
Eastern European :
2% Russian
1% Ukrainian



Also, for $20 bucks @ https://sequencing.com/map-my-genes-dna-ancestry-analysis

The bigger the circle the closer the genetic affinity I get pretty big circles for Cornwall England, Kent England and Argyl-Bute Scotland which is to be expected given my above genetic results from sequencing.com :


https://i.postimg.cc/RZMmtRrK/mapgenes.png


Let me be straight here I'm not opposed to be closest to the Dutch or Norwegian but I am opposed to being 'Irish' (I admit my biases which is what you have to do to be scientific) rather my paper trail is about 75% British isles and 25% German/French and sequencing.com matches that almost perfectly unlike G25. I know G5 is not supposed to be taken literally but seen through proxy populations but sequencing.com is just better.


Let us be real do you really expect to pay only $12 to some polack car thieves of German cars and expect real results and precision that it claims to offer ? I paid $59 dollars for sequencing.com and the results speak for themselves. You get what you pay for.


Try simulated G25 coords

http://allelocator.com/K36horizontal.html

SangreAzul
06-14-2022, 02:21 PM
you of score 1% of the NIggerian component. It is of why you mad, I score 100% celtic iberian you wish you could be of one superior race. I am better, more smart than you James Bond.