My Y is Slavic but autosomal Germanic.

[Slavic Italian]

Eurogenes 13. That being said quite a few Germans with my clade YP1337.

[gixajo]

Eurogenes 13. That being said quite a few Germans with my clade YP1337.

And your "Mixed Mode Population Sharing" of your oracle?

[Scandal]

Eurogenes 13.
6.94 is a big distance. Try mixed mode.
Your vahaduo

Slavic_Italian(American),34.34,25.7,14.8,7.44,12.4 2,1.46,1.07,0,0,1.13,0.82,0.83,0


Target: Slavic_Italian(American)
Distance: 1.6749% / 1.67490045 | R2P
75.2 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
24.8 Bulgarian_Southeastern



Target: Slavic_Italian(American)
Distance: 0.6623% / 0.66232241 | R4P
43.0 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
32.4 Bosniak_Krajina_West
15.6 Jew_Morroco
9.0 French_Brittany



Target: Slavic_Italian(American)
Distance: 0.5764% / 0.57640305 | R5P
31.6 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
28.9 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
24.6 Bosniak_Krajina_West
11.2 Jew_Libya
3.7 Spanish_Valencia

But yes, your autosomal dna is more Germanic than Slavic.

[Slavic Italian]

6.94 is a big distance. Try mixed mode.
Your vahaduo

Slavic_Italian(American),34.34,25.7,14.8,7.44,12.4 2,1.46,1.07,0,0,1.13,0.82,0.83,0


Target: Slavic_Italian(American)
Distance: 1.6749% / 1.67490045 | R2P
75.2 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
24.8 Bulgarian_Southeastern



Target: Slavic_Italian(American)
Distance: 0.6623% / 0.66232241 | R4P
43.0 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
32.4 Bosniak_Krajina_West
15.6 Jew_Morroco
9.0 French_Brittany


That's a good bit of German.

[Jana]

You aren't that Germanic genetically.

[Slavic Italian]

You aren't that Germanic genetically.

So what am I then?

[gixajo]

15.6 % Jew "Morroco"?

[Scandal]

So what am I then?
You're a White American of mixed ancestry. I don't think a specific european identity is needed or appropriate for you.
Here are your vahaduo coords
Slavic_Italian(American),34.34,25.7,14.8,7.44,12.4 2,1.46,1.07,0,0,1.13,0.82,0.83,0
go to vahaduo copy and paste them to "target" then go to single, and run it with different "reduce" values.

[Slavic Italian]

Here's the rest.

[Scandal]

15.6 % Jew "Morroco"?
He's part southern Italian.

[gixajo]

He's part southern Italian.

I mean that is Morocco, and not "Morroco".

[Scandal]

Here's the rest.
I think the first one is not far from your actual ancestry. (I don't think you're part Tatar/adyghe/swede etc)

[Slavic Italian]

6.94 is a big distance. Try mixed mode.
Your vahaduo

Slavic_Italian(American),34.34,25.7,14.8,7.44,12.4 2,1.46,1.07,0,0,1.13,0.82,0.83,0


Target: Slavic_Italian(American)
Distance: 1.6749% / 1.67490045 | R2P
75.2 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
24.8 Bulgarian_Southeastern



Target: Slavic_Italian(American)
Distance: 0.6623% / 0.66232241 | R4P
43.0 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
32.4 Bosniak_Krajina_West
15.6 Jew_Morroco
9.0 French_Brittany



Target: Slavic_Italian(American)
Distance: 0.5764% / 0.57640305 | R5P
31.6 German_Brandenburg_Northwest
28.9 German_Bavaria_Oberpfalz
24.6 Bosniak_Krajina_West
11.2 Jew_Libya
3.7 Spanish_Valencia

But yes, your autosomal dna is more Germanic than Slavic.

Stears is jealous because I have more German than he does. Hahaha

[Slavic Italian]

I think the first one is not far from your actual ancestry. (I don't think you're part Tatar/adyghe/swede etc)

So mostly Bavarian?

[Jana]

So what am I then?

White American of mixed Celtic, Germanic, Slavic and Medditeranean ancestry. As far as I remember you're half British, quarter Slavic and quarter Italian.

[Slavic Italian]

White American of mixed Celtic, Germanic, Slavic and Medditeranean ancestry. As far as I remember you're half British, quarter Slavic and quarter Italian.

Not quite.

[Jana]

Stears is jealous because I have more German than he does. Hahaha

I am not Stears and you should be more respectful because I took part in making these German averages. Southern Germans are not that Germanic in DNA.

[Slavic Italian]

I am not Stears and you should be more respectful because I took part in making these German averages. Southern Germans are not that Germanic in DNA.

So what are we then? Bavarian is not German? My maternal grandfather was German.

[Jana]

So what are we then? Bavarian is not German?

We? You aren't southern German, you just cluster near them. They are mix of local Kelts and Germanics, in some parts of Bavaria even some Slavic influence.

[Slavic Italian]

We? You aren't southern German, you just cluster near them. They are mix of local Kelts and Germanics, in some parts of Bavaria even some Slavic influence.

Sure I am. I even have some Y matches with them.

[gixajo]

Here's the rest.

Nope, I want to see "oracle", not "oracle 4", please. The complete list if possible.

For example this is mine:

https://i.imgur.com/LemlXXa.png
https://i.imgur.com/6sLuBNV.png

[Jana]

Sure I am. I even have some Y matches with them.

No, you are not.

[Scandal]

Nope, I want to see "oracle", not "oracle 4", please. The complete list if possible.

For example this is mine:

https://i.imgur.com/LemlXXa.png
https://i.imgur.com/6sLuBNV.png

I've posted his k13 cords in this thread

[Slavic Italian]

No, you are not.

Davidski IBD Analysis says I am and I discussed it with him. Here are a few. First is a double hit.

German_IL550_0192 11.722059
German_IL550_0204 11.670863

German_GS000016892 11.427855

Utah_German_NA12057 9.913035

German_IL550_0391 9.289345

German_IL550_0133 9.0737346

German_GS000016893 8.842881

German_IL550_0367 8.111112

German_IL550_0433 7.629471

German_IL550_0445 7.582084

German_IL550_0461 6.620043

Utah_German_NA07345 6.266461

Utah_German_NA07022 5.522419

German_IL550_0031 5.232845

German_IL550_0091 4.87534

[gixajo]

I've posted his k13 cords in this thread

I know it, but I am not asking for your* k13 coordinates but for some original results from Gedmatch site.

Edit:For "His* k13 coordinates"

[Slavic Italian]

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 34.59
2 Baltic 25.13
3 West_Med 14.57
4 East_Med 12.19
5 West_Asian 7.57
6 Red_Sea 1.61
7 South_Asian 1.21
8 Amerindian 1.18
9 Northeast_African 1.14
10 Oceanian 0.82

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 6.18
2 Hungarian 6.81
3 Serbian 7.98
4 West_German 8.53
5 East_German 8.6
6 South_Dutch 10.3
7 Romanian 11.08
8 French 11.2
9 Croatian 11.94
10 Moldavian 11.96
11 North_German 13.65
12 Bulgarian 14.04
13 Southeast_English 15.54
14 Danish 15.99
15 North_Dutch 16.27
16 South_Polish 16.68
17 Portuguese 16.72
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17
19 Spanish_Galicia 17.01
20 North_Italian 17.05

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.6% Swedish + 45.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.8
2 51.7% Serbian + 48.3% West_German @ 1.9
3 53.3% Bulgarian + 46.7% Danish @ 2.07
4 66.7% Serbian + 33.3% Southeast_English @ 2.1
5 59.3% Romanian + 40.7% Danish @ 2.1
6 59.7% Romanian + 40.3% North_Dutch @ 2.17
7 53.8% Bulgarian + 46.2% North_Dutch @ 2.18
8 87.1% Austrian + 12.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.24
9 85.9% Austrian + 14.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.28
10 87.1% Austrian + 12.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.3
11 70.9% Serbian + 29.1% West_Scottish @ 2.32
12 61% Romanian + 39% Orcadian @ 2.32
13 50.7% North_German + 49.3% Bulgarian @ 2.35
14 69.5% Serbian + 30.5% Southwest_English @ 2.35
15 86% Austrian + 14% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.38
16 55.4% Romanian + 44.6% North_German @ 2.38
17 70.2% Serbian + 29.8% Irish @ 2.39
18 55% Bulgarian + 45% Orcadian @ 2.41
19 58.7% Romanian + 41.3% Southeast_English @ 2.42
20 69% Serbian + 31% Orcadian @ 2.42

[Russki]

We? You aren't southern German, you just cluster near them. They are mix of local Kelts and Germanics, in some parts of Bavaria even some Slavic influence.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/313/727/cc7.png

[gixajo]

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 34.59
2 Baltic 25.13
3 West_Med 14.57
4 East_Med 12.19
5 West_Asian 7.57
6 Red_Sea 1.61
7 South_Asian 1.21
8 Amerindian 1.18
9 Northeast_African 1.14
10 Oceanian 0.82

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 6.18
2 Hungarian 6.81
3 Serbian 7.98
4 West_German 8.53
5 East_German 8.6
6 South_Dutch 10.3
7 Romanian 11.08
8 French 11.2
9 Croatian 11.94
10 Moldavian 11.96
11 North_German 13.65
12 Bulgarian 14.04
13 Southeast_English 15.54
14 Danish 15.99
15 North_Dutch 16.27
16 South_Polish 16.68
17 Portuguese 16.72
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17
19 Spanish_Galicia 17.01
20 North_Italian 17.05

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.6% Swedish + 45.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.8
2 51.7% Serbian + 48.3% West_German @ 1.9
3 53.3% Bulgarian + 46.7% Danish @ 2.07
4 66.7% Serbian + 33.3% Southeast_English @ 2.1
5 59.3% Romanian + 40.7% Danish @ 2.1
6 59.7% Romanian + 40.3% North_Dutch @ 2.17
7 53.8% Bulgarian + 46.2% North_Dutch @ 2.18
8 87.1% Austrian + 12.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.24
9 85.9% Austrian + 14.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.28
10 87.1% Austrian + 12.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.3
11 70.9% Serbian + 29.1% West_Scottish @ 2.32
12 61% Romanian + 39% Orcadian @ 2.32
13 50.7% North_German + 49.3% Bulgarian @ 2.35
14 69.5% Serbian + 30.5% Southwest_English @ 2.35
15 86% Austrian + 14% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.38
16 55.4% Romanian + 44.6% North_German @ 2.38
17 70.2% Serbian + 29.8% Irish @ 2.39
18 55% Bulgarian + 45% Orcadian @ 2.41
19 58.7% Romanian + 41.3% Southeast_English @ 2.42
20 69% Serbian + 31% Orcadian @ 2.42

Thanks, I had not seen it before.

If I ask you something with respect, the next time you answer with the same respect, and so I will avoid answering you in the same way.

I mean the private messages.:thumb001:

[Slavic Italian]

Thanks, I had not seen it before.

If I ask you something with respect, the next time you answer with the same respect, and so I will avoid answering you in the same way.

I mean the private messages.:thumb001:

Pay attention. No excuses for not seeing it.

[Slavic Italian]

EU test using Nebula file.

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 AT 4.74
2 HU 8.98
3 West_&_Central_German 9.09
4 Serbian 9.8
5 NL 10.34
6 FR 11.29
7 Cornish 11.92
8 RO 12.07
9 English 12.41
10 Orcadian 13.2
11 DK 13.42
12 IE 13.76
13 South_&_Central_Swedish 14.15
14 NO 14.38
15 Scottish 14.82
16 North_Swedish 15.26
17 North_Italian 15.36
18 PT 15.86
19 ES 16.96
20 PL 18.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.4% AT + 5.6% Bangladeshi @ 2.79
2 95.6% AT + 4.4% South_Indian @ 2.82
3 94.4% AT + 5.6% IN @ 2.85
4 94.7% AT + 5.3% Gujarati @ 2.88
5 93.7% AT + 6.3% Sindhi @ 2.97
6 93.3% AT + 6.7% Burusho @ 3.18
7 93.4% AT + 6.6% Balochi @ 3.34
8 93.4% AT + 6.6% Brahui @ 3.35
9 93.8% AT + 6.2% Kalash @ 3.47
10 94.6% AT + 5.4% IR @ 4.15
11 95.2% AT + 4.8% Kurdish @ 4.25
12 54.5% NL + 45.5% RO @ 4.27
13 50.4% Cornish + 49.6% RO @ 4.3
14 95% AT + 5% TR @ 4.34
15 52.5% RO + 47.5% Orcadian @ 4.34
16 91.1% AT + 8.9% Tuscan @ 4.34
17 53.7% RO + 46.3% IE @ 4.36
18 89.2% AT + 10.8% North_Italian @ 4.39
19 96.2% AT + 3.8% Mandean @ 4.39
20 96.1% AT + 3.9% Armenian @ 4.39

[Slavic Italian]

MDLP 23B using Nebula file.

# Population (source) Distance
1 German-Volga ( ) 4.17
2 South_German ( ) 5.43
3 North_German ( ) 5.89
4 Austrian ( ) 6.23
5 Dutch ( ) 6.24
6 Dane ( ) 8.32
7 Belgian ( ) 8.86
8 German_East ( ) 8.99
9 Frisian ( ) 9.03
10 German ( ) 9.23
11 Swede_Saami ( ) 9.38
12 Irish ( ) 9.73
13 Hungarian ( ) 9.76
14 Swede ( ) 9.93
15 Italian_North ( ) 9.98
16 Slovenian ( ) 10.08
17 English ( ) 10.3
18 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 11
19 Norwegian_East ( ) 11.18
20 Czech ( ) 11.57

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.5% German-Volga ( ) + 7.5% Afghan_Pushtun ( ) @ 2.78
2 92.5% German-Volga ( ) + 7.5% Parsi ( ) @ 2.78
3 93.2% German-Volga ( ) + 6.8% Pakistani_Pushtun ( ) @ 2.82
4 94.1% German-Volga ( ) + 5.9% Mumbai_Jew ( ) @ 2.9
5 93.4% German-Volga ( ) + 6.6% Pashtun_Afghani ( ) @ 2.94
6 92.7% German-Volga ( ) + 7.3% Uzbek_Afghan ( ) @ 2.99
7 92.2% German-Volga ( ) + 7.8% Tajik_Afghan ( ) @ 2.99
8 91.7% German-Volga ( ) + 8.3% Iranian ( ) @ 3
9 94.7% German-Volga ( ) + 5.3% Pathan ( ) @ 3
10 94.5% German-Volga ( ) + 5.5% Cochin_Jew ( ) @ 3.03
11 93.5% German-Volga ( ) + 6.5% Tajik_Pomiri_Ishkashim ( ) @ 3.04
12 95% German-Volga ( ) + 5% Jatt_Pahari ( ) @ 3.05
13 95.4% German-Volga ( ) + 4.6% Punjabi_Gujjar ( ) @ 3.08
14 92.7% German-Volga ( ) + 7.3% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) @ 3.09
15 93.1% German-Volga ( ) + 6.9% Tajik_Pomiri_Shugnan ( ) @ 3.09
16 94.9% German-Volga ( ) + 5.1% Jatt_Haryana ( ) @ 3.12
17 70.6% Norwegian_East ( ) + 29.4% Turk_Balikesir ( ) @ 3.12
18 95.7% German-Volga ( ) + 4.3% Pakistani ( ) @ 3.13
19 70.5% Norwegian_East ( ) + 29.5% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) @ 3.13
20 95.7% German-Volga ( ) + 4.3% Sindhi ( ) @

[Slavic Italian]

PuntDNAL 13 Nebula file

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 41.4
2 SW_Europe 33.24
3 West_Asia 12.63
4 South_Asia 4.71
5 SW_Asia 3.92
6 Americas 2.48
7 SE_Asia 0.84
8 Oceania 0.79

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.07
2 Croatian 6.72
3 Bosnian 7.07
4 Hungarian 7.23
5 Serbian 7.37
6 Slovene 7.69
7 German_South 7.7
8 Slovak 8.71
9 English 8.79
10 Belgian 8.85
11 Scottish 9.49
12 French 9.54
13 Orcadian 9.95
14 Romanian 10.09
15 Montenegrin 10.13
16 Irish 10.19
17 Utahn_European 10.44
18 German_North 11.43
19 Bulgarian 11.65
20 Macedonian 11.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.5% English + 23.5% Romani @ 2.7
2 89.7% German_South + 10.3% Bengali @ 2.85
3 90.8% German_South + 9.2% Gond @ 2.94
4 74.1% Orcadian + 25.9% Romani @ 2.94
5 90.8% German_South + 9.2% Tamil_Nadu_Caste @ 2.97
6 86.5% Belgian + 13.5% Kashmir_Pandit @ 2.98
7 91% German_South + 9% Piramalai_Kallars @ 3.02
8 90.8% German_South + 9.2% Velamas @ 3.03
9 85.7% Belgian + 14.3% Burusho @ 3.03
10 90.6% German_South + 9.4% UP_Muslim @ 3.08
11 88.3% German_South + 11.7% Kashmir_Pandit @ 3.08
12 91% German_South + 9% Kurumba @ 3.08
13 90.9% German_South + 9.1% Chenchus @ 3.09
14 73.6% Irish + 26.4% Romani @ 3.09
15 75.2% Scottish + 24.8% Romani @ 3.11
16 89.9% German_South + 10.1% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 3.11
17 91.4% German_South + 8.6% Sakilli @ 3.15
18 73.2% Utahn_European + 26.8% Romani @ 3.15
19 91.4% German_South + 8.6% North_Kannadi @ 3.19
20 87.7% German_South + 12.3% Burusho @ 3.2

[Smitty]

What is your background then?

[Slavic Italian]

What is your background then?

German, Slavic, Italian.

[Smitty]

German, Slavic, Italian.

So 50% German, 25% Slavic, 25% Italian? Your results are remarkably similar to my mom's (75% German, 25% Italian).

North_Atlantic 35.70%
Baltic 26.38%
West Mediterranean 11.58%
West Asian 9.58%
East Mediterranean 11.79%
Red Sea 1.59%
South Asian 0.16%
East Asian 0.00%
Siberian 0.00%
Amerindian 2.09%
Oceanian 0.00%
Northeast African 0.00%
Sub-Saharan 1.13%

[Jana]

So 50% German, 25% Slavic, 25% Italian? Your results are remarkably similar to my mom's (75% German, 25% Italian).

North_Atlantic 35.70%
Baltic 26.38%
West Mediterranean 11.58%
West Asian 9.58%
East Mediterranean 11.79%
Red Sea 1.59%
South Asian 0.16%
East Asian 0.00%
Siberian 0.00%
Amerindian 2.09%
Oceanian 0.00%
Northeast African 0.00%
Sub-Saharan 1.13%

He is not half German at all, but half British as far as I remember. Just another lost American making up his identity by case where he clusters, similar ilness like JamesBond.

[Jana]

this are his 23andme results.


I did a restest since I did V3 eight years ago. I am fairly pleased. Feel free to ask questions.

Northwestern Europe 53.5
*British and Irish 45.7
*French and German 2.4
*Finnish 1.1
*Broadly Northwestern Europe 4.3

Southern Europe 25.8
*Italy 25.8

Eastern Europe 19.1

Broadly Europe 0.8

Trace 0.6

*Manchurian & Mongolian 0.3
*Peninsular Arab 0.3

Unassigned 0.2

He just accidentaly forgot his main ancestry lol. I guess British ancestry is too boring for Americans so they like to make up stories.
I assume some kind of mental illness like JamesBond who is zero Dutch but pretended to be a Dutch because he clusters with them.

[Smitty]

this are his 23andme results.



He just accidentaly forgot his main ancestry lol. I guess British ancestry is too boring for Americans so they like to make up stories.
I assume some kind of mental illness like JamesBond who is zero Dutch but pretended to be a Dutch because he clusters with them.

This may be. But I really don't understand it. I find my British ancestry immensely interesting. Shouldn't he plot farther northwest, though?

[Jana]

This may be. But I really don't understand it. I find my British ancestry immensely interesting. Shouldn't he plot farther northwest, though?

Well half Brit half Italian-Slavic will cluster like a German more or less. He may have some minor German ancestry (I assume his Slavic quarter is Polish or sth like that), but stuff he claims here is ridiculous...

[Slavic Italian]

Well half Brit half Italian-Slavic will cluster like a German more or less. He may have some minor German ancestry (I assume his Slavic quarter is Polish or sth like that), but stuff he claims here is ridiculous...

Says the person who disagrees with everybody on every subject. Who has the illness?

[Slavic Italian]

Here is my Living DNA results. The Brits would know how to identify their DNA better than anyone.

[Roy]

What is your supposed ethnic breakdown?

[Jana]

Says the person who disagrees with everybody on every subject. Who has the illness?

What a pitiful guy, a mongrel claiming to be something he is not and negating his main ancestry because it's too average/basic in the US.
You're a laughing stock.

[Slavic Italian]

What a pitiful guy, a mongrel claiming to be something he is not and negating his main ancestry because it's too average/basic in the US.
You're a laughing stock.

Your girlfriend does not think so. I miss her messaging me telling me how good I look.

[Slavic Italian]

This may be. But I really don't understand it. I find my British ancestry immensely interesting. Shouldn't he plot farther northwest, though?

I have a close relative in Monheim. Interacted with him today. Have another born and raised in Hamburg. Another in Bremen who grew up in Bremerhaven. Stears is a retard.