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Jana
10-29-2022, 07:40 AM
Edit: do not use ADC (it should be 0)

I used strictly antiquity pre-Slavic (filtered) samples because I wanted something exactly before Slavs came to Balkans.
For Slavic samples NE cluster is used to measure "pure" Slavic concentrate. Germanic is represented with Norwegian because I was unsatisfied with various test runs with ancient samples (all seem to have small admix) and Asian is a made-up component combined with elite Hun and Avar core samples from Hungary.

I did various tests with pre-Slavic samples and divided them into clusters.

Enjoy :)


Balto-Slavic::DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA004,0.134311,0.126 941,0.089,0.07752,0.050779,0.029284,0.00094,0.0092 3,0.004909,-0.016401,0.001949,-0.008842,0.020664,0.019818,-0.006515,0.005701,0.00665,0.0019,0.00817,0.007128,-0.010731,-0.000989,0.003451,-0.014942,-0.003712
Balto-Slavic::DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007,0.125205,0.131 003,0.082212,0.067184,0.047701,0.02761,0.00846,0.0 11538,-0.000205,-0.035718,0.001949,-0.006594,0.01888,0.02202,-0.009365,-0.01485,-0.002868,0.000887,-0.003017,0.005503,0.000749,0.000989,0.00037,-0.003976,0.007664
Balto-Slavic:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011,0.130897,0.1320 19,0.082212,0.069768,0.050163,0.026216,0.012926,0. 009923,0.002454,-0.019135,-0.002111,-0.008692,0.014717,0.023533,-0.012486,-0.011005,-0.004172,0.002154,0.006034,0.006003,-0.006738,-0.01014,0.007395,-0.004217,0.003592
Balto-Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29,0.134311,0.12389 5,0.076555,0.06783,0.044624,0.026774,0.013161,0.01 223,-0.003681,-0.036083,-0.011367,-0.012139,0.025718,0.027937,-0.019272,-0.001326,0.010431,-0.00114,0.003771,0.013381,-0.00025,-0.007666,0.008874,-0.007591,0.006826
Balto-Slavic:SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438,0.134311,0.127957,0.07 8441,0.079458,0.02739,0.033746,0.006815,0.015692,0 .001227,-0.031709,0.001299,-0.011839,0.013528,0.022157,-0.011943,-0.001326,-0.000782,0.000887,0.009679,0.012631,-0.018467,0.001113,0.001109,-0.01205,-0.009939
Balto-Slavic::VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA,0.124067,0.135065,0. 075424,0.072029,0.038469,0.027052,0.011986,0.02053 8,0.00634,-0.027153,-0.006171,-0.01169,0.022002,0.031516,-0.016694,-0.01127,0.002347,0.003041,0.005028,-0.001501,-0.010606,0.004946,0.007518,-0.005422,0.00479
Balto-Slavic:POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494,0.126344,0.125926,0 .085606,0.066215,0.051702,0.034861,0.017626,0.0143 07,0.003886,-0.017312,-0.006496,3e-04,0.016353,0.029314,-0.011672,-0.005171,-0.014081,0.004181,0.013073,0.002126,0.009483,0.005 812,0.005669,-0.004699,0.001078
Balto-Slavic:HUN_early_Avar:CSB9,0.130897,0.126941,0.089 ,0.085272,0.032929,0.036814,0.0094,0.017768,-0.006136,-0.043554,0.00406,-0.016635,0.023191,0.034406,-0.014522,-0.010077,-0.011865,-0.0019,0.001885,0.000125,-0.009858,-0.00779,0.024896,-0.01446,0.005868
Balto-Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2,0.135449,0.128972,0.080 704,0.063954,0.034776,0.034025,0.006815,0.007615,0 .009613,-0.02041,-0.001461,-0.005245,0.010852,0.026561,-0.014658,-0.002254,0.002347,0.001267,0.01081,-0.001751,0.001622,-0.002844,0.009613,-0.008314,0.005389
Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146,0.136588,0.12 6941,0.090132,0.072675,0.044624,0.030678,0.005405, 0.014999,-0.005931,-0.025695,-0.004709,-0.008992,0.016055,0.014175,-0.013572,0.014717,0.026598,-0.004814,-0.001383,0.007379,0.00025,-0.008779,0.002095,-0.005784,-0.000958
Asian,0.0611764,-0.2438034,0.0614354,-0.002069,-0.0513698,-0.022809,0.0099897,0.0138616,0.0020584,-0.0009203,-0.0182353,0.0011765,0.0015125,-0.0051706,0.003853,0.005128,0.0013764,-0.0011619,0.0003369,0.0083234,-0.0178344,0.0011618,-0.0091524,0.002128,-0.0013283
Germanic:Norwegian,0.1320917,0.1294546,0.0680514,0 .0545305,0.0403228,0.0198709,0.0041595,0.0060919,0 .006151,-0.002287,-0.0046444,0.004275,-0.0092355,-0.0101497,0.0202528,0.0065566,-0.0072004,0.0033097,0.0029758,0.0041082,0.0056806, 0.0040898,0.0008873,0.0141072,-6.88e-05
Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15462,0 .108132,0.140143,0.004903,-0.044897,0.020311,-0.007251,0.00282,0.005538,-0.001432,0.027518,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.014271,-0.006744,-0.009908,0.012994,0.023991,-0.008488,0.004525,-0.00988,-0.007612,0.005688,0.003697,-0.003012,-0.001676
Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741,0 .120652,0.149283,0.000754,-0.028424,0.022158,-0.014781,-0.000235,0,-0.004909,0.010752,-0.001786,0.007943,-0.014271,-0.008945,-0.003257,0.010209,0.014864,-0.001014,-0.002891,0.000125,-0.003369,0.003462,-0.002465,0.010845,0.001197
Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744,0 .114961,0.14319,-0.001886,-0.027778,0.026774,-0.022311,-0.00141,-0.001615,0.003681,0.019499,-0.004547,0.005395,-0.006095,-0.001376,-0.009093,0.018165,0.014994,-0.00076,0.00264,0.003377,0.000749,0.002349,0.00061 6,-0.00253,-0.001317
Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Novo_selo_Bunje:R35 47___AD_571,0.111547,0.148267,0.001886,-0.033269,0.022773,-0.012829,0.00235,-0.004846,0.003272,0.018224,-0.000812,0.006444,-0.010406,0.004542,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.00326,-0.007095,-0.004399,0.001376,-0.012104,-0.000866,0.003451,0.001687,0.001796
Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2050___AD_468,0.112685,0.148267,-0.001886,-0.0323,0.017849,-0.018965,0.001645,-0.004615,0.005727,0.019317,-0.002273,0.0003,-0.015609,0.005092,-0.007057,-0.00358,-0.001043,0.006714,0.011313,-0.016633,-0.009733,-0.005564,0.000986,-0.004338,-0.000359
Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Velic:R3685___AD_50 0,0.117238,0.146236,0,-0.027778,0.017849,-0.020638,-0.00329,-0.006692,-0.000818,0.021868,-0.000325,0.003897,-0.018434,-0.001514,-0.009908,0.009944,0.011474,-0.003421,0.00264,-0.002501,-0.004866,-0.004081,-0.002958,0.004699,-0.001557
Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine:R3 481___AD_266,0.113823,0.153345,0.013576,-0.032623,0.016618,-0.013945,0.00517,-0.004846,-0.000409,0.029158,-0.006171,0.004646,-0.015758,-0.000138,-0.011808,-0.015646,-0.004303,0.008488,0.007919,-0.011005,-0.000624,0.007048,-0.003821,-0.004458,-0.004191
Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster::HRV_Gardun:R3543___AD_ 516,0.114961,0.151314,0.008297,-0.028424,0.022158,-0.011156,0.006815,0.001154,-0.006749,0.029522,-0.005196,0.010491,-0.01115,-0.010046,-0.010858,-0.002254,-0.003651,0.001394,0.000503,-0.008129,-0.005989,-0.001484,-0.005176,0.003012,-0.000359
Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Sipar:R3662___AD_59 9,0.118376,0.149283,0.004525,-0.031654,0.029852,-0.003068,-0.002585,0.002077,0.013703,0.023691,0.003735,0.012 889,-0.013528,0.004679,-0.008686,-0.006364,-0.003651,-0.002534,-0.000251,-0.002876,0.000125,0.003215,-0.001109,-0.000723,0.001317
Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3744__ _AD_146,0.114961,0.152329,0.012445,-0.021641,0.022773,-0.016733,-0.00517,-0.001385,0.001227,0.0277,-0.008931,0.00045,-0.019326,-0.011147,-0.007057,-0.007955,-0.000391,0.000507,0.005656,0.001876,-0.003743,0.003215,0.004437,-0.004097,0.001557
Thrace_Byzantine:BGR_RomByz:I18792,0.114961,0.1807 64,0.000754,-0.055556,0.023081,-0.02008,-0.00611,0.000462,0.017998,0.043737,-0.008607,0.001649,-0.024678,-0.017616,-0.021444,-0.00716,0.020079,-0.013302,-0.006913,-0.004752,-0.013227,0.016075,-0.006655,0.023377,-0.008981
North_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Umag_Sipar:R2045___AD_5 77,0.126344,0.158423,0.038843,-0.003876,0.041854,0.001673,0.009165,-0.000231,0.018407,0.023508,-0.005359,0.013938,-0.015907,-0.009909,0.004207,-0.001458,0.003651,0.00038,0.009804,-0.008754,0.001123,0.00779,-0.001849,-0.005784,-0.006586
South_Illyrian_cluster:SVN_Emona:R10467___AD_327,0 .118376,0.150298,0.021873,-0.024548,0.029544,-0.011435,0.000235,0.005769,0.004909,0.033167,-0.000812,0.01109,-0.011744,0.00055,-0.013979,-0.007425,0.007823,0.000887,-0.001131,-0.007003,0.002496,0.004699,-0.001849,0.002651,-0.003113
South_Illyrian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R9669___AD_2 20,0.117238,0.144205,0.017725,-0.012274,0.028928,-0.001116,0,0.009,0.001432,0.021868,0.005196,0.0082 43,-0.012785,-0.005643,-0.011672,0.001724,0.004172,0.005954,0.00905,-0.005753,-0.013851,0.013354,-0.002218,0.00964,0.007784
South_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3747 ___AD_177,0.120652,0.148267,0.017348,-0.022287,0.032929,-0.013387,-0.00141,-0.003692,0.015953,0.018953,-0.002436,0.006444,-0.010555,-0.001514,-0.007057,-0.00305,-0.00339,0.002407,0.003017,-0.008004,0.006364,0.008903,0.002588,0.002651,-0.008023
Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2051___AD_468,0.119514,0.153345,0.012068,-0.033592,0.032314,-0.008646,0.00235,0.006,0.007567,0.02934,-0.003573,0.002098,-0.017393,-0.003028,-0.011265,-0.014717,0.000913,-0.011022,0.010307,0.000125,-0.024831,0.007296,-0.002835,0.007832,-0.006227
Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3743___AD_146,0. 119514,0.162485,0.009805,-0.028747,0.028005,-0.012271,0.00188,0.005538,0.00409,0.034989,0.00958 1,0.003747,-0.008028,0.001101,-0.017508,-0.012994,-0.000261,0.003294,0.004777,-0.012256,-0.007612,0.00371,0.002095,0.005181,-0.002155
East_Med_cluster:SVN_Emona:R10473___AD_313,0.12179 1,0.153345,-0.016216,-0.057817,0.008001,-0.016455,-0.001175,-0.006461,-0.007158,0.011663,0.008769,-0.004196,-0.004014,0,-0.006379,-0.006232,-0.000782,0.001014,0.000628,0.007754,0.004866,-0.000371,-0.003204,0.002771,0.008023
East_Med_cluster:AUT_Wels:R10668___AD_188,0.119514 ,0.1635,-0.030924,-0.061693,0.00277,-0.022032,-0.005875,-0.006923,-0.001841,0.028064,-0.004384,0.008692,-0.009812,0.010184,-0.013979,-0.020551,-0.004955,0.000887,0.004399,-0.008379,-0.003244,0.003957,-0.007765,0.002169,0.002275
East_Med_cluster:HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2042___AD_32 7,0.091058,0.150298,-0.001131,-0.053295,0.022466,-0.022311,-0.001175,-0.000923,0.019225,0.014579,-0.000974,-0.003447,0.004311,-0.008945,0.006515,-0.00411,0.008866,-0.004687,-0.000377,-0.007128,-0.00262,0.00507,-0.001602,-0.003253,0.000838
East_Med_cluster:SRB_Naissus:R6769___AD_76,0.10471 7,0.150298,-0.029793,-0.060724,-0.002154,-0.019522,-0.00094,-0.011999,0.002863,0.020957,0.002273,-0.000599,0.007433,0.000275,-0.013843,-0.002917,0.011083,0.005954,0.013952,-0.000875,-0.012728,0.00507,-0.003944,-0.008435,0.000958
Thracian_cluster:SRB_Naissus:R6764___AD_330,0.1206 52,0.161469,0.017725,-0.031008,0.040315,-0.018128,0.000705,-0.000923,0.005727,0.037358,0.007307,0.013638,-0.016799,0.003303,-0.019001,0.006364,0.029597,-0.00038,0.010936,-0.004627,-0.007237,-0.002968,-0.006779,-0.004217,-0.010538
Thracian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R6756___AD_180,0.1 21791,0.168578,0.007165,-0.042313,0.028005,-0.013945,-0.000235,0.002308,0.00634,0.036447,0.007957,0.0038 97,-0.006987,-0.003991,-0.029994,-0.012198,0.005998,0.00076,0.007039,-0.014007,-0.011729,0.012242,-0.003574,0.008314,-0.001317
Thracian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3746___AD_ 177,0.126344,0.155376,0.012068,-0.047804,0.026774,-0.015339,-0.000235,-0.000923,0.014521,0.045377,0.006496,0.012889,-0.01219,-0.009909,-0.019815,-0.001061,0.018515,0.002914,0.009176,-0.008254,-0.013476,-0.001731,-0.006162,0.003133,-0.005029
Near_Eastern_outlier:SRB_Viminacium:R6750___AD_148 ,0.085367,0.146236,-0.046009,-0.073644,-0.016311,-0.02761,0.00235,-0.000231,-0.006136,0.01385,-0.001786,0.000749,0.00892,0.004129,-0.005157,-0.009546,-0.010952,-0.00228,0.01169,-0.008004,-0.004991,0.003462,-0.002095,0.000723,-0.000718
Near_Eastern_outlier:HRV_Trogir_Policija:R3670___A D_168,0.101303,0.145221,-0.038843,-0.066861,-0.004308,-0.025379,-0.013866,-0.003461,-0.009817,0.015308,0.015589,0.014537,0.000297,-0.012111,-0.0095,0.010077,0.02725,-0.004814,0.008045,-0.001876,-0.009109,-0.001113,-0.007765,0.003253,0.002155
Jana
10-29-2022, 07:45 AM
Target: Feiichy
Distance: 1.5773% / 0.01577272

56.6 Balto-Slavic
18.6 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
13.4 Thracian_cluster
10.2 North_Illyrian_cluster
1.2 Asian

My results. Dalmatia Byzantine cluster represents genetically mixed samples between local northern Illyrians and Imperial Romans/Greeks.
paradox
10-29-2022, 07:58 AM
Thanks 🙂

Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 1.1475% / 0.01147486
30.0 Balto-Slavic
29.0 East_Med_cluster
28.6 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
9.4 Near_Eastern_outlier
1.6 Thracian_cluster
1.4 Asian
-----------------------
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 1.4362% / 0.01436225
32.2 Balto-Slavic
32.2 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
17.0 Thracian_cluster
11.6 East_Med_cluster
5.2 Germanic
1.8 Asian
Jana
10-29-2022, 08:01 AM
No problem! btw, you don't need 0.25X ADC. I made this for no ADC set up and I think by changing that you lose lot of information that way (calc is kind of sensitive towards that)
paradox
10-29-2022, 08:13 AM
Ok, I wasn't sure. I'll delete 0.25x then.
Dušan
10-29-2022, 08:47 AM
Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 0.8627% / 0.00862658
52.2 Balto-Slavic
34.4 Thracian_cluster
4.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
4.0 North_Illyrian_cluster
3.2 Asian
2.0 South_Illyrian_cluster
0.2 East_Med_cluster


Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 0.8627% / 0.00862650
34.4 Thracian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R6756___AD_180
18.4 Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146
11.8 Balto-Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
11.4 Balto-Slavic:HUN_early_Avar:CSB9
8.0 Balto-Slavic:SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438
4.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster::HRV_Gardun:R3543___AD_ 516
4.0 North_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Umag_Sipar:R2045___AD_5 77
3.2 Asian
2.6 Balto-Slavic::VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA
2.0 South_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3747 ___AD_177
0.2 East_Med_cluster:AUT_Wels:R10668___AD_188



3.2% Asian?
mariusz99
10-29-2022, 09:04 AM
Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 1.4520% / 0.01452036
71.6 Balto-Slavic
18.8 Germanic
7.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
2.2 Asian

Hmm, I think 0,5 ADC better because of one reason. I shouldn't see Asian.


Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 1.6675% / 0.01667530 | ADC: 0.5x RC
70.4 Balto-Slavic
22.2 Germanic
7.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
Jana
10-29-2022, 09:08 AM
Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 1.4520% / 0.01452036
71.6 Balto-Slavic
18.8 Germanic
7.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
2.2 Asian

Hmm, I think 0,5 ADC better because of one reason. I shouldn't see Asian.


Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 1.6675% / 0.01667530 | ADC: 0.5x RC
70.4 Balto-Slavic
22.2 Germanic
7.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster

No, it's not better and ADC artifically removes small admixtures.
Jana
10-29-2022, 09:10 AM
Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 0.8627% / 0.00862658
52.2 Balto-Slavic
34.4 Thracian_cluster
4.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
4.0 North_Illyrian_cluster
3.2 Asian
2.0 South_Illyrian_cluster
0.2 East_Med_cluster


Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 0.8627% / 0.00862650
34.4 Thracian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R6756___AD_180
18.4 Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146
11.8 Balto-Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
11.4 Balto-Slavic:HUN_early_Avar:CSB9
8.0 Balto-Slavic:SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438
4.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster::HRV_Gardun:R3543___AD_ 516
4.0 North_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Umag_Sipar:R2045___AD_5 77
3.2 Asian
2.6 Balto-Slavic::VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA
2.0 South_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3747 ___AD_177
0.2 East_Med_cluster:AUT_Wels:R10668___AD_188



3.2% Asian?

That's probably because of simulated coords. I mean that's near Stears values. Real coords are better ofc.
Dušan
10-29-2022, 09:13 AM
That's probably because of simulated coords. I mean that's near Stears values. Real coords are better ofc.

I usualy get 0.5-1.5%.
But over 3% this is first time. :D
Vitez
10-29-2022, 09:43 AM
Target: Vitez
Distance: 1.0867% / 0.01086655
38.8 Balto-Slavic
28.0 Germanic
13.6 East_Med_cluster
11.2 Thracian_cluster
5.4 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
3.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
Jana
10-29-2022, 09:48 AM
Target: Vitez
Distance: 1.0867% / 0.01086655
38.8 Balto-Slavic
28.0 Germanic
13.6 East_Med_cluster
11.2 Thracian_cluster
5.4 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
3.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster

28% Germanic Bosnian Croat? Insane.
Southern Croats are usually 0% Germanic.
Vitez
10-29-2022, 10:03 AM
Yeah I was surprised by the results too
But I tried other calculators that you posted and I got also around 20% germanic

Target: Vitez
Distance: 1.5518% / 0.01551813
49.0 Slavic_Migration
20.4 Germanic_Migration
18.8 Illyrian-Pannonian
11.8 Roman-Byzantine
alexmegas777
10-29-2022, 10:55 AM
Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
0.05155251 South_Illyrian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R9669___AD_2 20
0.05189275 South_Illyrian_cluster:SVN_Emona:R10467___AD_327
0.05202146 South_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3747 ___AD_177
0.05317530 North_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Umag_Sipar:R2045___AD_5 77
0.05879441 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Sipar:R3662___AD_59 9
0.06209441 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3744__ _AD_146
0.06296494 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Novo_selo_Bunje:R35 47___AD_571
0.06366467 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster::HRV_Gardun:R3543___AD_ 516
0.06455599 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3743___AD_146
0.06585277 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
0.06637177 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
0.06699324 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Velic:R3685___AD_50 0
0.06831443 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine:R3 481___AD_266
0.06866083 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2051___AD_468
0.07233425 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2050___AD_468
0.07266836 Thracian_cluster:SRB_Naissus:R6764___AD_330
0.07800045 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15462
0.08169049 Thracian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R6756___AD_180
0.08196539 Thracian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3746___AD_ 177
0.08203416 Germanic:Norwegian
0.09245296 East_Med_cluster:HRV_Sisak_Pogorelec:R2042___AD_32 7
0.09283040 East_Med_cluster:SVN_Emona:R10473___AD_313
0.09594924 Balto-Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.10054741 Balto-Slavic:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
0.10533812 Balto-Slavic::VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA

Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 1.9601% / 0.01960098
32.8 Balto-Slavic
17.0 East_Med_cluster
16.4 South_Illyrian_cluster
15.2 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
10.4 Thracian_cluster
7.4 Germanic
0.8 Asian
rothaer
10-29-2022, 10:55 AM
Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.1674% / 0.01167381
46.2 Germanic
40.2 Balto-Slavic
7.6 North_Illyrian_cluster
6.0 East_Med_cluster

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.5647% / 0.01564691
74.0 Germanic
26.0 Balto-Slavic
gixajo
10-29-2022, 10:57 AM
Hi Feiichy.:yo:

And thanks.


Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.1257% / 0.03125672
70.6 North_Illyrian_cluster
18.4 Germanic
8.2 East_Med_cluster
2.6 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
0.2 Thracia_Byzantine

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 3.4194% / 0.03419380
54.4 North_Illyrian_cluster
14.2 Germanic
13.0 East_Med_cluster
8.4 Thracian_cluster
6.0 Thracia_Byzantine
2.2 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
1.8 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 3.6206% / 0.03620631
67.2 North_Illyrian_cluster
27.0 Germanic
5.6 South_Illyrian_cluster
0.2 East_Med_cluster

Adding some extra samples for Iberians:


Iberia_North:La_Hoya_IA_I3758,0.125205,0.146236,0. 06675,0.013889,0.053241,0.003347,-0.004465,0.002308,0.030474,0.034989,0.001624,0.008 393,-0.017691,-0.00812,0.013843,-0.007292,-0.02047,0.00114,-0.00352,-0.002751,0.003494,0.000618,-0.008134,-0.016508,-0.002994
Iberia_North:La_Hoya_IA_I3759,0.125205,0.140143,0. 063356,0.009044,0.062781,0.003347,-0.00235,0.006692,0.02168,0.034989,-0.006008,0.009292,-0.016204,-0.008945,0.0076,0.007425,0.003912,0.000633,0.00326 8,0.001251,0.012977,0.004081,-0.006039,-0.007109,-0.009221
Iberia_West:Conimbriga_R10487___AD_337,0.117238,0. 142174,0.04714,0.010659,0.044931,0.000837,0.00705, 0.001385,0.026588,0.025149,-0.001786,0.01124,-0.017096,-0.0139,0.010858,0.013922,0.010822,0.001014,-0.000251,0.01038,0.00861,0.000247,-0.002711,-0.010965,0.002994
Iberia_West:Conimbriga_R10488___AD_337,0.108132,0. 152329,0.051288,0.006137,0.057549,0.006136,0.00094 ,0.005077,0.036814,0.033167,-0.005359,0.004196,-0.022745,-0.007019,0.016422,-0.005834,-0.009648,0.005954,0.004651,0.002626,0.00287,0.0044 51,-0.005053,-0.006025,-0.002874
Canary_Islands_Guanche,-0.0393828,0.1314096,-0.0023384,-0.0687344,0.0337292,-0.0363672,-0.0299874,0.008261,0.0708878,0.0305428,0.0075674,-0.0059948,0.0182554,-0.0176982,0.0232082,-0.0130468,0.0031814,-0.019206,-0.044321,0.010405,-0.0134762,-0.0377142,0.0232692,-0.0011806,0.0046224


Results:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.5398% / 0.01539838
37.8 Iberia_North
37.2 Iberia_West
12.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
7.4 Thracia_Byzantine
3.6 Germanic
1.0 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
0.6 Canary_Islands_Guanche

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.5376% / 0.01537650
34.8 Iberia_North
19.4 Iberia_West
14.2 Thracian_cluster
10.4 Thracia_Byzantine
6.6 Canary_Islands_Guanche
5.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
5.4 South_Illyrian_cluster
3.8 Germanic

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.5217% / 0.01521737
52.0 Iberia_North
19.0 Iberia_West
13.6 Germanic
7.8 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
6.8 Thracia_Byzantine
0.8 Canary_Islands_Guanche
MandM
10-29-2022, 11:06 AM
Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.3311% / 0.01331054
38.4 Balto-Slavic
26.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
16.0 Thracian_cluster
6.6 Thracia_Byzantine
5.4 East_Med_cluster
3.0 Near_Eastern_outlier
2.4 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
2.2 Asian

Target: Stamatis
Distance: 3.2416% / 0.03241550
65.2 Near_Eastern_outlier
19.0 East_Med_cluster
10.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
5.0 Balto-Slavic
0.4 Asian

Target: Afroditi
Distance: 1.9351% / 0.01935122
36.8 East_Med_cluster
36.2 Near_Eastern_outlier
14.8 Balto-Slavic
12.2 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster

Target: Sister
Distance: 1.6311% / 0.01631086
41.6 Balto-Slavic
29.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
11.6 Thracia_Byzantine
9.0 Thracian_cluster
5.8 East_Med_cluster
2.4 Asian
0.2 Near_Eastern_outlier

Target: Wify
Distance: 1.6975% / 0.01697521
50.8 Balto-Slavic
17.6 East_Med_cluster
16.4 Thracian_cluster
14.0 South_Illyrian_cluster
1.2 Near_Eastern_outlier
Jana
10-29-2022, 11:16 AM
Yeah I was surprised by the results too
But I tried other calculators that you posted and I got also around 20% germanic

Target: Vitez
Distance: 1.5518% / 0.01551813
49.0 Slavic_Migration
20.4 Germanic_Migration
18.8 Illyrian-Pannonian
11.8 Roman-Byzantine

Yes, I guess it's legit. You have really interesting results :)
rothaer
10-29-2022, 11:22 AM
Yes, I guess it's legit. You have really interesting results :)

How do you explain that? You can not get this out of a fully indigenous mixture as it must be far outside the spread... :confused:
cakmir7y
10-29-2022, 11:27 AM
Target: cakmir7y_scaled
Distance: 1.3090% / 0.01309042
57.6 Balto-Slavic
24.0 Germanic
12.4 East_Med_cluster
5.6 Thracian_cluster
0.4 Asian
Geni_kameni
10-29-2022, 11:43 AM
Thanks

Target: G
Distance: 0.5776% / 0.00577591
43.4 Balto-Slavic
29.6 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
15.6 East_Med_cluster
8.0 Thracian_cluster
3.0 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
0.4 Asian
Jana
10-29-2022, 12:19 PM
How do you explain that? You can not get this out of a fully indigenous mixture as it must be far outside the spread... :confused:

There is occasional Germanic admix in Bosnia but usually more in Bosniaks from specific regions than Croats.

Lot of possible things. Maybe he has some north Croat ancestry he is unaware of for example. Or other. Lots of central Euros came there during AH times. Former user from here for example has recent Czech ancestry from Bosnia.
Grace O'Malley
10-29-2022, 12:44 PM
I know not really for me.


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9792% / 0.01979196
97.0 Germanic:Norwegian
1.6 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
1.4 Thracia_Byzantine:BGR_RomByz:I18792

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9792% / 0.01979196
97.0 Germanic
1.6 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
1.4 Thracia_Byzantine

Added Gixajo's extra samples for Iberian but distance was slightly higher.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9797% / 0.01979744
95.8 Germanic:Norwegian
3.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
1.2 Iberia_North:La_Hoya_IA_I3758

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.02022725 Germanic:Norwegian
0.07534501 Iberia_West:Conimbriga_R10487___AD_337
0.07686700 Iberia_North:La_Hoya_IA_I3759
0.07847742 Iberia_North:La_Hoya_IA_I3758
0.07881895 Balto-Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.08047392 Balto-Slavic:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
0.08218478 Balto-Slavic::DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007
0.08273629 Balto-Slavic:POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.08283447 Balto-Slavic::DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA004
0.08577550 Iberia_West:Conimbriga_R10488___AD_337
0.08611061 North_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Umag_Sipar:R2045___AD_5 77
0.08613091 Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146
0.08762198 Balto-Slavic:SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438
0.09123306 Balto-Slavic::VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA
0.09403505 Balto-Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
0.10460338 South_Illyrian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R9669___AD_2 20
0.10945541 South_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3747 ___AD_177
0.11141023 Balto-Slavic:HUN_early_Avar:CSB9
0.11581458 South_Illyrian_cluster:SVN_Emona:R10467___AD_327
0.11674050 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3744__ _AD_146
0.12042286 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
0.12217981 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Sipar:R3662___AD_59 9
0.12287053 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster::HRV_Gardun:R3543___AD_ 516
0.12681738 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2051___AD_468
0.12749512 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
noricum
10-29-2022, 03:12 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.7045% / 0.01704454
44.2 Balto-Slavic
24.4 Germanic
10.6 North_Illyrian_cluster
10.2 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
9.8 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
0.8 East_Med_cluster
Kriptc06
10-29-2022, 03:47 PM
How can I run my aunt on it? where are the source numbers from, what calc?
Jana
10-29-2022, 04:46 PM
How can I run my aunt on it? where are the source numbers from, what calc?

Copy the data and paste in into SOURCE here. https://promotopic.com/calculator/vahd.html
than paste your aunt scaled coords into TARGET. Than click on SINGLE and run her modeling by clicking on button with her sample name on the menu on the right.

I'm my calc. Samples are selected from Davidski ancient sheet.
Kriptc06
10-29-2022, 05:24 PM
Target: Kriptc_aunt
Distance: 0.0069% / 0.00690385
37.1 Balto-Slavic
27.5 East_Med_cluster
22.1 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
12.3 Thracian_cluster
1.0 Asian


Thank you Feiichy for the help
ZeDude
10-29-2022, 06:14 PM
Target: ZeDude_scaled
Distance: 1.8035% / 0.01803453
36.2 Balto-Slavic
16.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
15.6 East_Med_cluster
15.4 Thracian_cluster
14.0 South_Illyrian_cluster
2.8 Near_Eastern_outlier


Distance to: ZeDude_scaled
0.04207274 South_Illyrian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R9669___AD_2 20
0.05458758 South_Illyrian_cluster:SVN_Emona:R10467___AD_327
0.05913744 South_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3747 ___AD_177
0.05927004 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
0.05953783 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3744__ _AD_146
0.05993116 North_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Umag_Sipar:R2045___AD_5 77
0.06047880 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Velic:R3685___AD_50 0
0.06165563 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster::HRV_Gardun:R3543___AD_ 516
0.06188080 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Sipar:R3662___AD_59 9
0.06240535 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
Coastal Elite
10-29-2022, 07:27 PM
Target: Daco_scaled
Distance: 1.4526% / 0.01452613
50.0 Germanic
11.0 Balto-Slavic
9.8 East_Med_cluster
8.2 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
7.8 North_Illyrian_cluster
6.8 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
4.8 Thrace_Byzantine
1.6 Asian
Gergő Marosvári
10-29-2022, 08:54 PM
Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.4414% / 0.01441376
23.2 Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146
15.6 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
12.6 Balto-Slavic:SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438
12.4 Balto-Slavic::VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA
12.4 Germanic:Norwegian
11.8 Near_Eastern_outlier:HRV_Trogir_Policija:R3670___A D_168
6.8 Balto-Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
3.8 Asian
1.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Velic:R3685___AD_50 0
Vega7
10-29-2022, 10:51 PM
Seems reasonable. Are the native Balkan samples basically completely southern euro/west asian with no northern DNA at all?

https://i.imgur.com/xYNBsUK.png
Jana
10-29-2022, 11:15 PM
Seems reasonable. Are the native Balkan samples basically completely southern euro/west asian with no northern DNA at all?

https://i.imgur.com/xYNBsUK.png

They have north Euro, some even much like North-Illyrian like sample who is continental-Celtic like, but East Med cluster samples have very little and MENA outliers even less if they cluster with Levantines or non Turkic Anatolians.

Thracian cluster is odd case, they have little north Euro (but ofc they do) and they are loaded with ENF, quite Sardinian shifted compared to Illyrian-MENA cline and that can be noticed only on PCA.
RyoHazuki
10-29-2022, 11:17 PM
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 3.2510% / 0.03250976 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.0 Germanic:Norwegian
18.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine:R3 481___AD_266

Target: RyoHazuki(simulated)
Distance: 1.0371% / 0.01037055 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.6 Germanic:Norwegian
31.2 North_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Umag_Sipar:R2045___AD_5 77
3.2 Balto-Slavic:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
bained
10-30-2022, 02:42 AM
Target: BaiNed_simulatedk36
Distance: 0.7421% / 0.00742075
44.2 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
30.4 Balto-Slavic
8.2 Germanic
6.4 East_Med_cluster
5.2 Thracian_cluster
3.0 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
1.8 Thrace_Byzantine
0.8 Near_Eastern_outlier
Jana
10-31-2022, 01:19 PM
My results with simulated coords. I get Germanic unlike with real coords and I should be getting it since I have German heritage.
Is it possible simulated coords from K36 are better than real ones??!

Target: Feiichy_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.0094% / 0.00939102

59.5 Balto-Slavic
10.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
9.9 Thracian_cluster
9.4 Germanic
7.3 East_Med_cluster
3.5 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
Selene
10-31-2022, 01:24 PM
Target: Nixie (simulated from K13)
Distance: 1.2554% / 0.01255446
48.0 Balto-Slavic
20.2 Germanic
16.4 East_Med_cluster
8.8 Thracian_cluster
3.6 South_Illyrian_cluster
3.0 Near_Eastern_outlier

Target: Nixie (simulated from K36)
Distance: 0.4944% / 0.00494377
50.4 Balto-Slavic
14.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
12.4 Germanic
11.2 Thracian_cluster
3.6 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
3.2 Near_Eastern_outlier
3.0 East_Med_cluster
1.8 Asian
vasiliki23
10-31-2022, 07:18 PM
Target: VASILIKI_scaled
Distance: 1.8947% / 0.01894686
49.8 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
29.4 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
17.0 Balto-Slavic
2.2 North_Illyrian_cluster
1.6 Thracian_cluster
Bessarion
10-31-2022, 10:17 PM
Distance to: Bojan_scaled
0.05558078 Germanic:Norwegian
0.06578277 Balto-Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.07049432 Balto-Slavic:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
0.07210876 North_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Umag_Sipar:R2045___AD_5 77
0.07415302 Balto-Slavic::DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007
0.07477930 Balto-Slavic:POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.07704913 South_Illyrian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R9669___AD_2 20
0.07715409 Balto-Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
0.07787431 Balto-Slavic::VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA
0.08022982 South_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3747 ___AD_177
0.08264941 Balto-Slavic::DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA004
0.08278437 Balto-Slavic:SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438
0.08281950 Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146
0.08426455 South_Illyrian_cluster:SVN_Emona:R10467___AD_327
0.08993270 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3744__ _AD_146
0.09075797 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Sipar:R3662___AD_59 9
0.09327752 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
0.09363014 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster::HRV_Gardun:R3543___AD_ 516
0.09521331 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Novo_selo_Bunje:R35 47___AD_571
0.09628119 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine:R3 481___AD_266
0.09641684 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
0.09709470 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Velic:R3685___AD_50 0
0.09773498 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3743___AD_146
0.09853110 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2051___AD_468
0.10114863 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2050___AD_468

Target: Bojan_scaled
Distance: 1.5553% / 0.01555269
42.0 Balto-Slavic
28.2 East_Med_cluster
28.0 Germanic
1.8 Asian

Are these some new references, lately, I have gotten more north-shifted results?
Danjojo
10-31-2022, 10:31 PM
Target: DanjojoSim
Distance: 0.6174% / 0.00617446
40.4 Balto-Slavic
36.8 Germanic
8.0 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
6.6 North_Illyrian_cluster
6.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
1.0 South_Illyrian_cluster
0.8 Asian
celticdragongod
11-01-2022, 01:05 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02022034 Germanic:Norwegian
0.07483820 Balto-Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.07496383 Balto-Slavic:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
0.07819714 Balto-Slavic:POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.08121677 Balto-Slavic::DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007
0.08141358 North_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Umag_Sipar:R2045___AD_5 77
0.08260115 Balto-Slavic::DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA004
0.08567064 Balto-Slavic:SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438
0.08741373 Balto-Slavic::VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA
0.08918277 Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146
0.09338268 Balto-Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
0.09685038 South_Illyrian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R9669___AD_2 20
0.10390711 South_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3747 ___AD_177
0.10687148 Balto-Slavic:HUN_early_Avar:CSB9
0.10997576 South_Illyrian_cluster:SVN_Emona:R10467___AD_327
0.11085006 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3744__ _AD_146
0.11589921 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Sipar:R3662___AD_59 9
0.11693828 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster::HRV_Gardun:R3543___AD_ 516
0.11774671 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
0.11880252 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2051___AD_468
0.12182978 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3743___AD_146
0.12225746 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine:R3 481___AD_266
0.12273021 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Novo_selo_Bunje:R35 47___AD_571
0.12374823 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Velic:R3685___AD_50 0
0.12481761 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7102% / 0.01710210
90.2 Germanic:Norwegian
8.6 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2051___AD_468
1.2 Balto-Slavic:HUN_early_Avar:CSB9
Bart0s
11-05-2022, 05:27 AM
Obviously not a very good calculator. Samples have been cherrypicked. Many samples were left out. These samples also include several J2b2-L283 and E-V13 and these samples cluster more South-East compared to the Iron Age and shows Slavs did not have much genetic impact on some non-Slavic people like Albanians, Greeks etc. therefor Slavic samples obviously shouldn't be used to model such people. The labeling of these samples as certain mixes is also nothing but speculation.
Jana
11-11-2022, 08:21 PM
Sheeeeeep-tar
Viminacium
12-07-2022, 02:13 PM
Distanceto: ivica
0.05192230 South_Illyrian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R9669___AD_2 20
0.05327580 North_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Umag_Sipar:R2045___AD_5 77
0.05802933 South_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3747 ___AD_177
0.05848505 South_Illyrian_cluster:SVN_Emona:R10467___AD_327
0.06592146 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Sipar:R3662___AD_59 9
0.06630418 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3744__ _AD_146
0.06864760 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster::HRV_Gardun:R3543___AD_ 516
0.06879398 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3743___AD_146
0.06986688 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Novo_selo_Bunje:R35 47___AD_571
0.07078102 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
0.07143429 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine:R3 481___AD_266
0.07201403 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2051___AD_468
0.07256578 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Velic:R3685___AD_50 0
0.07284504 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
0.07433999 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2050___AD_468
0.07634001 Thracian_cluster:SRB_Naissus:R6764___AD_330
0.07700780 Germanic:Norwegian
0.08343054 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15462
0.08427383 Balto-Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.08494373 Thracian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R6756___AD_180
0.08896669 Balto-Slavic:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
0.08905021 Thracian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3746___AD_ 177
0.09248290 Balto-Slavic::VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA
0.09459555 Balto-Slavic::DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007
0.09517725 Balto-Slavic:POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
Impaler
12-07-2022, 02:16 PM
Wow, high Germanic. Maybe a proxy for something else.

Target: Impaler
Distance: 2.4621% / 0.02462055
36.8 Near_Eastern_outlier
22.2 Balto-Slavic
21.6 Germanic
6.4 Asian
5.6 South_Illyrian_cluster
4.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
3.4 East_Med_cluster
Dušan
12-07-2022, 02:26 PM
Distanceto: ivica
0.05192230 South_Illyrian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R9669___AD_2 20
0.05327580 North_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Umag_Sipar:R2045___AD_5 77
0.05802933 South_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3747 ___AD_177
0.05848505 South_Illyrian_cluster:SVN_Emona:R10467___AD_327
0.06592146 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Sipar:R3662___AD_59 9
0.06630418 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3744__ _AD_146
0.06864760 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster::HRV_Gardun:R3543___AD_ 516
0.06879398 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3743___AD_146
0.06986688 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Novo_selo_Bunje:R35 47___AD_571
0.07078102 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
0.07143429 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine:R3 481___AD_266
0.07201403 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2051___AD_468
0.07256578 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Velic:R3685___AD_50 0
0.07284504 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
0.07433999 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2050___AD_468
0.07634001 Thracian_cluster:SRB_Naissus:R6764___AD_330
0.07700780 Germanic:Norwegian
0.08343054 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15462
0.08427383 Balto-Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.08494373 Thracian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R6756___AD_180
0.08896669 Balto-Slavic:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
0.08905021 Thracian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3746___AD_ 177
0.09248290 Balto-Slavic::VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA
0.09459555 Balto-Slavic::DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007
0.09517725 Balto-Slavic:POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494

Hi, can you post "single" result of this calculator?
Viminacium
12-07-2022, 02:44 PM
Hi, can you post "single" result of this calculator?


Vrlo rado ali i don't know how :)
Dušan
12-07-2022, 02:48 PM
Vrlo rado ali i don't know how :)

Изабери опцију "Single" да ти прикаже аутосомалну структуру, а не само који су ти узорци најближи.

https://i.imgur.com/Vaqk9CO.png
Viminacium
12-07-2022, 02:51 PM
Target: ivica
Distance: 0.6508% / 0.00650799
46.0 Balto-Slavic
16.8 East_Med_cluster
12.6 Thracian_cluster
11.8 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
11.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
1.8 Germanic
Dušan
12-07-2022, 02:55 PM
Target: ivica
Distance: 0.6508% / 0.00650799
46.0 Balto-Slavic
16.8 East_Med_cluster
12.6 Thracian_cluster
11.8 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
11.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
1.8 Germanic

Nice result :)
Viminacium
12-07-2022, 03:00 PM
Nice result :)

https://i.postimg.cc/f3MbtSFr/Ivica-J-admix-IA-2.png (https://postimg.cc/f3MbtSFr)

I would call this a controversial personality result. :cool:
hazmatnik
12-09-2022, 04:03 PM
Target: hazmatnik_scaled
Distance: 1.9285% / 0.01928527
51.8 Balto-Slavic
17.2 East_Med_cluster
16.2 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
10.0 Thracian_cluster
3.0 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
1.8 Near_Eastern_outlier

And with simulated G25, just for comparison

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.5647% / 0.00564661
47.4 Balto-Slavic
35.0 Thracian_cluster
12.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
4.0 East_Med_cluster
1.6 Asian
Dušan
06-16-2023, 10:33 AM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.6042% / 0.01604194
56.8 Balto-Slavic
17.6 East_Med_cluster
14.2 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
7.6 Thracian_cluster
2.2 Asian
1.6 South_Illyrian_cluster
Far_away
06-16-2023, 11:23 AM
Distance: 0.0130% / 0.01299650
30.7 Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146
17.0 Thracian_cluster:SRB_Naissus:R6764___AD_330
11.6 Balto-Slavic:HUN_early_Avar:CSB9
10.8 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
9.1 Near_Eastern_outlier:HRV_Trogir_Policija:R3670___A D_168
8.1 Thracian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3746___AD_ 177
5.4 Thrace_Byzantine:BGR_RomByz:I18792
4.7 East_Med_cluster:AUT_Wels:R10668___AD_188
2.6 Balto-Slavic:SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438


0.02064073 41.80% Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146 + 58.20% Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Velic:R3685___AD_50 0
0.02136181 55.40% Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146 + 44.60% East_Med_cluster:AUT_Wels:R10668___AD_188
0.02232113 44.40% Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146 + 55.60% Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2050___AD_468
0.02245776 40.20% Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146 + 59.80% Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
0.02277981 42.80% Balto-Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2 + 57.20% Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
Beowulf
06-16-2023, 12:38 PM
Target: VikiingMallorcaSpain_Scaled
Distance: 1.5497% / 0.01549721
32.6 North_Illyrian_cluster
31.0 Germanic
13.0 Thrace_Byzantine
8.4 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
6.0 South_Illyrian_cluster
5.0 Balto-Slavic
3.0 East_Med_cluster
1.0 Asian
Nausevar
06-16-2023, 01:05 PM
Target: Nausevar_scaled
Distance: 1.9798% / 0.01979823
40.0 Balto-Slavic
27.6 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
26.2 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
5.0 Thracian_cluster
1.2 Asian
Vitez
06-16-2023, 01:45 PM
Target: Vitez
Distance: 1.0867% / 0.01086655
38.8 Balto-Slavic
28.0 Germanic
13.6 East_Med_cluster
11.2 Thracian_cluster
5.4 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster
3.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster

Now I understand why it's better to use real coords and not sims.
A lot more credible here.

Target: Vitez_newg25
Distance: 0.0049% / 0.00494132
55.7 Balto-Slavic
28.8 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster
6.7 Germanic
3.5 Near_Eastern_outlier
2.8 Thracian_cluster
1.5 East_Med_cluster
1.0 Thrace_Byzantine
cass
06-16-2023, 03:28 PM
Distance to: cass
0.03663188 Balto-Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2 :thumb001:
0.03988987 Balto-Slavic:DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA011
0.04200220 Germanic:Norwegian
0.04394979 Balto-Slavic:POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
0.04673647 Balto-Slavic::DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA007
0.04813459 Balto-Slavic::DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA004
0.04884186 Balto-Slavic::VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA
0.05171141 Balto-Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
0.05324150 Balto-Slavic:SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438
0.05420686 Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146
0.07355104 Balto-Slavic:HUN_early_Avar:CSB9
0.09325225 North_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Umag_Sipar:R2045___AD_5 77
0.10463662 South_Illyrian_cluster:SRB_Viminacium:R9669___AD_2 20
0.11112944 South_Illyrian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Poliklinika:R3747 ___AD_177
0.11558121 South_Illyrian_cluster:SVN_Emona:R10467___AD_327
0.12100310 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3744__ _AD_146
0.12237024 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Sipar:R3662___AD_59 9
0.12510022 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster::HRV_Gardun:R3543___AD_ 516
0.12530177 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15741
0.12736349 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
0.12753691 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Novo_selo_Bunje:R35 47___AD_571
0.12784266 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Zadar_Ulica:R3743___AD_146
0.12808084 Illyrian-Thracian_cluster:HRV_Omišalj-Mirine:R2051___AD_468
0.12884867 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine:R3 481___AD_266
0.12991677 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Velic:R3685___AD_50 0


Target: cass
Distance: 0.8616% / 0.00861604
56.0 Balto-Slavic
33.6 Germanic
6.8 East_Med_cluster
3.6 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster


Target: cass
Distance: 0.8615% / 0.00861531
33.6 Germanic:Norwegian
20.2 Balto-Slavic:POL_Sandomierz_VA:VK494
11.4 Balto-Slavic:KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
7.2 Balto-Slavic:SRB_Viminacium:R9673___AD_146
6.4 East_Med_cluster:AUT_Wels:R10668___AD_188
5.2 Balto-Slavic::DEU_MA_Krakauer_Berg:KRA004
4.8 Balto-Slavic:HUN_early_Avar:CSB9
4.0 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Trogir_Byz:I15744
3.6 Balto-Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
3.4 Balto-Slavic:SWE_Gotland_VA:VK438
0.2 Dalmatia_Byzantine_cluster:HRV_Sipar:R3662___AD_59 9