Eastern Finland GEDMATCH

[FilhoV]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 53.32
2 North_Atlantic 26.76
3 Siberian 8.99
4 West_Med 3.42
5 West_Asian 2.45
6 East_Med 1.51
7 Amerindian 1.22
8 South_Asian 0.89
9 East_Asian 0.64
10 Oceanian 0.45
11 Red_Sea 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Finnish 5.18
2 Kargopol_Russian 7.16
3 Erzya 7.95
4 Finnish 8.66
5 Estonian 8.74
6 Lithuanian 9.39
7 Belorussian 10.32
8 Estonian_Polish 10.37
9 Russian_Smolensk 11.31
10 Southwest_Russian 11.37
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.43
12 Polish 13.78
13 Southwest_Finnish 14.42
14 Ukrainian 14.82
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.91
16 South_Polish 16.05
17 La_Brana-1 18.63
18 Chuvash 18.94
19 Tatar 21.17
20 Croatian 21.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.8% East_Finnish + 33.2% Erzya @ 3.86
2 88% Lithuanian + 12% Selkup @ 4.25
3 74.1% Lithuanian + 25.9% Mari @ 4.38
4 88.2% Lithuanian + 11.8% Ket @ 4.5
5 91% Lithuanian + 9% Dolgan @ 4.72
6 90.1% East_Finnish + 9.9% Chuvash @ 4.77
7 91.6% Lithuanian + 8.4% Evenki @ 4.78
8 72.8% East_Finnish + 27.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.78
9 91.8% Lithuanian + 8.2% Evens @ 4.8
10 93.1% East_Finnish + 6.9% Mari @ 4.88
11 83.1% East_Finnish + 16.9% Lithuanian @ 4.92
12 76.7% Estonian + 23.3% Mari @ 5.01
13 97.8% East_Finnish + 2.2% MA-1 @ 5.08
14 91.3% East_Finnish + 8.7% Southwest_Russian @ 5.09
15 92.4% East_Finnish

[Östsvensk]

Closer to Tatars than to Swedes.

[ScandinavianCelt]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 53.32
2 North_Atlantic 26.76
3 Siberian 8.99
4 West_Med 3.42
5 West_Asian 2.45
6 East_Med 1.51
7 Amerindian 1.22
8 South_Asian 0.89
9 East_Asian 0.64
10 Oceanian 0.45
11 Red_Sea 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Finnish 5.18
2 Kargopol_Russian 7.16
3 Erzya 7.95
4 Finnish 8.66
5 Estonian 8.74
6 Lithuanian 9.39
7 Belorussian 10.32
8 Estonian_Polish 10.37
9 Russian_Smolensk 11.31
10 Southwest_Russian 11.37
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.43
12 Polish 13.78
13 Southwest_Finnish 14.42
14 Ukrainian 14.82
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.91
16 South_Polish 16.05
17 La_Brana-1 18.63
18 Chuvash 18.94
19 Tatar 21.17
20 Croatian 21.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.8% East_Finnish + 33.2% Erzya @ 3.86
2 88% Lithuanian + 12% Selkup @ 4.25
3 74.1% Lithuanian + 25.9% Mari @ 4.38
4 88.2% Lithuanian + 11.8% Ket @ 4.5
5 91% Lithuanian + 9% Dolgan @ 4.72
6 90.1% East_Finnish + 9.9% Chuvash @ 4.77
7 91.6% Lithuanian + 8.4% Evenki @ 4.78
8 72.8% East_Finnish + 27.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.78
9 91.8% Lithuanian + 8.2% Evens @ 4.8
10 93.1% East_Finnish + 6.9% Mari @ 4.88
11 83.1% East_Finnish + 16.9% Lithuanian @ 4.92
12 76.7% Estonian + 23.3% Mari @ 5.01
13 97.8% East_Finnish + 2.2% MA-1 @ 5.08
14 91.3% East_Finnish + 8.7% Southwest_Russian @ 5.09
15 92.4% East_Finnish

Thanks for posting. Do you have the kit # to share for this one? Thanks!

[ScandinavianCelt]

Closer to Tatars than to Swedes.

strange how they are closer to many other groups than even the Southwest Finnish, including Poles, Ukrainians, and SOUTHWEST Russia!

[LaSentinelle]

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 53.32
2 North_Atlantic 26.76
3 Siberian 8.99
4 West_Med 3.42
5 West_Asian 2.45
6 East_Med 1.51
7 Amerindian 1.22
8 South_Asian 0.89
9 East_Asian 0.64
10 Oceanian 0.45
11 Red_Sea 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Finnish 5.18
2 Kargopol_Russian 7.16
3 Erzya 7.95
4 Finnish 8.66
5 Estonian 8.74
6 Lithuanian 9.39
7 Belorussian 10.32
8 Estonian_Polish 10.37
9 Russian_Smolensk 11.31
10 Southwest_Russian 11.37
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.43
12 Polish 13.78
13 Southwest_Finnish 14.42
14 Ukrainian 14.82
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.91
16 South_Polish 16.05
17 La_Brana-1 18.63
18 Chuvash 18.94
19 Tatar 21.17
20 Croatian 21.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.8% East_Finnish + 33.2% Erzya @ 3.86
2 88% Lithuanian + 12% Selkup @ 4.25
3 74.1% Lithuanian + 25.9% Mari @ 4.38
4 88.2% Lithuanian + 11.8% Ket @ 4.5
5 91% Lithuanian + 9% Dolgan @ 4.72
6 90.1% East_Finnish + 9.9% Chuvash @ 4.77
7 91.6% Lithuanian + 8.4% Evenki @ 4.78
8 72.8% East_Finnish + 27.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.78
9 91.8% Lithuanian + 8.2% Evens @ 4.8
10 93.1% East_Finnish + 6.9% Mari @ 4.88
11 83.1% East_Finnish + 16.9% Lithuanian @ 4.92
12 76.7% Estonian + 23.3% Mari @ 5.01
13 97.8% East_Finnish + 2.2% MA-1 @ 5.08
14 91.3% East_Finnish + 8.7% Southwest_Russian @ 5.09
15 92.4% East_Finnish

Interesting. I'm from Southwestern Russia and I'm closer to Swedes and Southwestern Finland somehow?

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 42.86
2 North_Atlantic 32.88
3 West_Med 8.94
4 East_Med 4.89
5 West_Asian 4.64
6 Siberian 3.52
7 South_Asian 1.08


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Polish @ 4.788897
2 Polish @ 5.389415
3 Ukrainian @ 6.661991
4 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.450727
5 Southwest_Finnish @ 7.643763
6 Belorussian @ 8.051025
7 Russian_Smolensk @ 8.159524
8 Estonian_Polish @ 8.358365
9 Southwest_Russian @ 8.760627
10 Finnish @ 8.942044
11 Estonian @ 9.406475
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 9.791260
13 Kargopol_Russian @ 10.988570
14 East_Finnish @ 11.293253
15 Croatian @ 12.383029
16 Lithuanian @ 12.693370
17 East_German @ 13.516651
18 Hungarian @ 13.529627
19 North_Swedish @ 14.076102
20 Erzya @ 15.244667

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_Finnish +50% Ukrainian @ 1.904351


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +25% Serbian +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.261284

[Lemminkäinen]

strange how they are closer to many other groups than even the Southwest Finnish, including Poles, Ukrainians, and SOUTHWEST Russia!

Barely, I'm not even in halfway as western as many Southwestern Finns. These Davidski's (and others') simply make artificial groupings.

Baltic 45.15
2 North_Atlantic 36.24
3 West_Med 6.65
4 Siberian 3.9
5 West_Asian 3.45
6 East_Asian 1.52
7 South_Asian 1.34
8 Amerindian 1.24
9 Oceanian 0.26
10 East_Med 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Finnish 3.56
2 Finnish 4.76
3 Estonian 5.9
4 Polish 8.17
5 East_Finnish 8.35
6 Belorussian 8.9
7 Russian_Smolensk 9.48
8 Estonian_Polish 9.54
9 South_Polish 9.62
10 Ukrainian 10.66
11 Lithuanian 10.74
12 North_Swedish 10.82
13 Kargopol_Russian 10.99
14 Southwest_Russian 11.22
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.44
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.78
17 La_Brana-1 13.07
18 Erzya 14.99
19 East_German 15.36
20 Croatian 16.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.6% Estonian + 34.4% North_Swedish @ 1.93
2 75.5% Estonian + 24.5% Swedish @ 2.21
3 79.1% Southwest_Finnish + 20.9% Lithuanian @ 2.22
4 78.6% Estonian + 21.4% Norwegian @ 2.22
5 79.5% Estonian + 20.5% Danish @ 2.26
6 82.1% Estonian + 17.9% West_Scottish @ 2.26
7 81.1% Estonian + 18.9% Orcadian @ 2.28
8 81.7% Estonian + 18.3% Irish @ 2.28
9 66.7% Southwest_Finnish + 33.3% Estonian @ 2.3
10 79.9% Estonian + 20.1% North_Dutch @ 2.34
11 78.4% Estonian + 21.6% North_German @ 2.36
12 77.9% Southwest_Finnish + 22.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.42
13 81.8% Southwest_Finnish + 18.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.46
14 85.5% Southwest_Finnish + 14.5% Erzya @ 2.52
15 83% Estonian + 17% Southwest_English @ 2.52
16 81.1% Southwest_Finnish + 18.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.54
17 78.9% Southwest_Finnish + 21.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.58
18 82.2% Estonian + 17.8% Southeast_English @ 2.59
19 78% Southwest_Finnish + 22% Belorussian @ 2.62
20 86% Finnish + 14% Irish @ 2.66

[ScandinavianCelt]

Barely, I'm not even in halfway as western as many Southwestern Finns. These Davidski's (and others') simply make artificial groupings.

Baltic 45.15
2 North_Atlantic 36.24
3 West_Med 6.65
4 Siberian 3.9
5 West_Asian 3.45
6 East_Asian 1.52
7 South_Asian 1.34
8 Amerindian 1.24
9 Oceanian 0.26
10 East_Med 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Finnish 3.56
2 Finnish 4.76
3 Estonian 5.9
4 Polish 8.17
5 East_Finnish 8.35
6 Belorussian 8.9
7 Russian_Smolensk 9.48
8 Estonian_Polish 9.54
9 South_Polish 9.62
10 Ukrainian 10.66
11 Lithuanian 10.74
12 North_Swedish 10.82
13 Kargopol_Russian 10.99
14 Southwest_Russian 11.22
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.44
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.78
17 La_Brana-1 13.07
18 Erzya 14.99
19 East_German 15.36
20 Croatian 16.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.6% Estonian + 34.4% North_Swedish @ 1.93
2 75.5% Estonian + 24.5% Swedish @ 2.21
3 79.1% Southwest_Finnish + 20.9% Lithuanian @ 2.22
4 78.6% Estonian + 21.4% Norwegian @ 2.22
5 79.5% Estonian + 20.5% Danish @ 2.26
6 82.1% Estonian + 17.9% West_Scottish @ 2.26
7 81.1% Estonian + 18.9% Orcadian @ 2.28
8 81.7% Estonian + 18.3% Irish @ 2.28
9 66.7% Southwest_Finnish + 33.3% Estonian @ 2.3
10 79.9% Estonian + 20.1% North_Dutch @ 2.34
11 78.4% Estonian + 21.6% North_German @ 2.36
12 77.9% Southwest_Finnish + 22.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.42
13 81.8% Southwest_Finnish + 18.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.46
14 85.5% Southwest_Finnish + 14.5% Erzya @ 2.52
15 83% Estonian + 17% Southwest_English @ 2.52
16 81.1% Southwest_Finnish + 18.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.54
17 78.9% Southwest_Finnish + 21.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.58
18 82.2% Estonian + 17.8% Southeast_English @ 2.59
19 78% Southwest_Finnish + 22% Belorussian @ 2.62
20 86% Finnish + 14% Irish @ 2.66

I think they do a decent job understanding movements of people's it seems quite accurate in most cases that I research but it's always just a generalization of probability and the potential for that that's all

[Lemminkäinen]

I think they do a decent job understanding movements of people's it seems quite accurate in most cases that I research but it's always just a generalization of probability and the potential for that that's all

No, they know little about movements of Finnish people. They only group samples on pca plots figuring something in their minds, which has very little to do with reality. You expect too much.

[Lemminkäinen]

Here a known East Finn. What makes sense in Finnish K13-results is the ratio between Siberian and North_Atlantic. East Finns have high Siberian and low or relatively low North_Atlantic. Soutwestern Finns have high North_Atlantic and relatively low Siberian, but not always nominally low. I have an average North_Atlantic and, as a Finn, a nominally low Siberian, which falls me towards Estonians, Poles and West Russians. It is impossible to say anything about the real origin, because the complexity, the direction and the age of admixtures vary.

Population Percent
1 Baltic 48.63
2 North_Atlantic 33.13
3 Siberian 8.69
4 West_Med 4.05
5 West_Asian 1.53
6 South_Asian 1.52
7 Amerindian 1.07
8 Oceanian 1.06
9 East_Asian 0.26
10 Red_Sea 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Finnish 2.56
2 Finnish 3.05
3 Estonian 6.23
4 Southwest_Finnish 8.21
5 Kargopol_Russian 9.01
6 Belorussian 10.23
7 Estonian_Polish 10.71
8 Lithuanian 10.76
9 Russian_Smolensk 11.37
10 Polish 12.05
11 Southwest_Russian 12.28
12 Erzya 12.4
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.39
14 Ukrainian 13.8
15 South_Polish 13.84
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.67
17 La_Brana-1 14.84
18 North_Swedish 16.19
19 Croatian 20.28
20 East_German 20.99

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.7% East_Finnish + 10.3% North_Swedish @ 1.78
2 57.6% East_Finnish + 42.4% Finnish @ 1.83
3 81.7% East_Finnish + 18.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.83
4 93.6% East_Finnish + 6.4% Norwegian @ 1.84
5 92.8% East_Finnish + 7.2% Swedish @ 1.87
6 94.7% East_Finnish + 5.3% West_Scottish @ 1.9
7 94.7% East_Finnish + 5.3% Irish @ 1.93
8 94.5% East_Finnish + 5.5% Orcadian @ 1.93
9 94.1% East_Finnish + 5.9% Danish @ 1.93
10 94.2% East_Finnish + 5.8% North_Dutch @ 1.94
11 95.2% East_Finnish + 4.8% Southwest_English @ 2.01
12 95% East_Finnish + 5% Southeast_English @ 2.01
13 94.3% East_Finnish + 5.7% North_German @ 2.04
14 92.5% Finnish + 7.5% Mari @ 2.17
15 96.8% Finnish + 3.2% Selkup @ 2.21
16 96% East_Finnish + 4% South_Dutch @ 2.25
17 96.1% East_Finnish + 3.9% West_German @ 2.27
18 96.9% Finnish + 3.1% Ket @ 2.29
19 97.9% East_Finnish + 2.1% French_Basque @ 2.3
20 93.5% East_Finnish + 6.5% La_Brana-1

[Lemminkäinen]

A Southwest Finn. Comparing to me high Siberian and high North_Atlantic throw him away from Estonians and Slavs, but North_Atlantic brings closer Swedes. Lower Siberian would bring him much closer Swedes. A little increment in Siberian makes a huge difference.

Population Percent
1 Baltic 43.88
2 North_Atlantic 40.63
3 West_Med 5.73
4 Siberian 4.98
5 West_Asian 3.35
6 Oceanian 0.88
7 South_Asian 0.5
8 Amerindian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Finnish 3.15
2 Finnish 7.09
3 North_Swedish 8.07
4 Estonian 9.28
5 East_Finnish 10.9
6 Polish 11.75
7 South_Polish 12.44
8 Belorussian 12.53
9 Russian_Smolensk 13.33
10 Estonian_Polish 13.45
11 La_Brana-1 13.79
12 Ukrainian 14.21
13 Lithuanian 14.37
14 Swedish 14.44
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.7
16 Kargopol_Russian 14.82
17 Southwest_Russian 14.97
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.54
19 East_German 15.56
20 Norwegian 17.55

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.7% Finnish + 46.3% North_Swedish @ 2.61
2 72.5% Finnish + 27.5% Norwegian @ 2.61
3 68.4% Finnish + 31.6% Swedish @ 2.65
4 77.7% Finnish + 22.3% West_Scottish @ 2.94
5 87.5% Southwest_Finnish + 12.5% North_Swedish @ 2.96
6 77.2% Finnish + 22.8% Irish @ 2.99
7 93.8% Southwest_Finnish + 6.2% Swedish @ 3.01
8 95.2% Southwest_Finnish + 4.8% Norwegian @ 3.03
9 74.8% Finnish + 25.2% North_Dutch @ 3.04
10 54% North_Swedish + 46% Estonian @ 3.05
11 58.4% North_Swedish + 41.6% East_Finnish @ 3.06
12 95% Southwest_Finnish + 5% La_Brana-1 @ 3.07
13 97.2% Southwest_Finnish + 2.8% West_Scottish @ 3.08
14 97.1% Southwest_Finnish + 2.9% Irish @ 3.08
15 96.7% Southwest_Finnish + 3.3% North_Dutch @ 3.09
16 96.8% Southwest_Finnish + 3.2% Danish @ 3.09
17 97.6% Southwest_Finnish + 2.4% Orcadian @ 3.11
18 74.6% Finnish + 25.4% Danish @ 3.11
19 97.4% Southwest_Finnish + 2.6% North_German @ 3.12
20 98.4% Southwest_Finnish + 1.6% Southwest_English @ 3.13