[MAP] Who is More Yamnaya G25

[Eurafricanid]

Post your Scaled coordinates here:
https://www.exploreyourdna.com/yamnaya.aspx


My results:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=120706&d=1684686377

[alnortedelsur]

Mine:

https://i6.imageban.ru/out/2023/05/21/8b58dc802568aa74bc580d7177e65f1c.jpg

I don't know where the Yamnaya percentage shows in that map.

And I don't like it doesn't show my Amerindian with a map of the Americas.

[Duke]

120707

[Eurafricanid]

Mine:
...

I don't know where the Yamnaya percentage shows in that map.

And I don't like it doesn't show my Amerindian with a map of the Americas.

This map is not good for Amerindian-admixed individuals, because it has EHG in it.

[Duke]

Mine:

...
I don't know where the Yamnaya percentage shows in that map.

And I don't like it doesn't show my Amerindian with a map of the Americas.


on the right side in the window :D

[alnortedelsur]

on the right side in the window :D

I know it. What I wonder is where do they get that number, based on the numbers in that map?

[Eurafricanid]

I know it. What I wonder is where do they get that number, based on the numbers in that map?

The Yamnaya percentage is there for you to add up with all the others, it's not derived, that's why it's so low in your results, because most of your Yamnaya is being read as EHG, because of your Amerindian.

[Duke]

I know it. What I wonder is where do they get that number, based on the numbers in that map?

I missed it at first, so I tought you did too :D

I guess the map is artistically made that way, to show the rest on the map, and yamnaya by the side, Yamnaya should be in Ukraine mostly

[Beowulf]

https://i.postimg.cc/Xv2PdHwB/baf081fc-bd2d-44ff-8c30-3081cab5ccfe.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jana]

I missed it at first, so I tought you did too :D

I guess the map is artistically made that way, to show the rest on the map, and yamnaya by the side, Yamnaya should be in Ukraine mostly

do you have real coords from David? If yes, could you post scaled ones pls? Just to compare with other Croats I have.
cheers

[Duke]

do you have real coords from David? If yes, could you post scaled ones pls? Just to compare with other Croats I have.
cheers

No, not from David, I converted mine from eurogenes K36, on this site https://www.exploreyourdna.com/simulated-g25.aspx

Ill send you PM

[Jana]

No, not from David, I converted mine from eurogenes K36, on this site https://www.exploreyourdna.com/simulated-g25.aspx

Ill send you PM

thanks! I can send you others I have too for comparison :)

[Duke]

thanks! I can send you others I have too for comparison :)

Did you get PM?

[Annihilus]

https://i.imgur.com/YZzwnRL.jpg

[Jana]

Did you get PM?

Yes, thanks a lot :)

[cass]

https://i.ibb.co/vX4CGMf/ef60c6c1-1f09-4295-84ed-4d2c16db17c2.jpg (https://ibb.co/41RwG0C)

[Duke]

They brought blood type B allele into Europe, its the first blood type that adopted to consume milk.

I have B allele :D

[Katarzyna]

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I am so glad that other Polish people (and our Eastern European neigbours) posted their results. How comes we Slavs score so high in Yamnaya?

[Albannach]

https://i.imgur.com/jddreAX.jpg

[PT Tagus]

https://i.postimg.cc/hjP96YDD/20555002-467a-4985-a7a1-2aaf18fc61e4.jpg

[cass]

120732

I am so glad that other Polish people (and our Eastern European neigbours) posted their results. How comes we Slavs score so high in Yamnaya?


Why would that be so weird?
In the case of proximity to Corded people, it is even more noticeable.

[Gallop]

Mine
https://i.postimg.cc/ZK7QW9ch/m-APAj-AMNNAYANA.jpg
Father
https://i.postimg.cc/FKggJ84J/Mapa-Yamna-Papa.jpg

[Katarzyna]

Why would that be so weird?
In the case of proximity to Corded people, it is even more noticeable.

I checked up how the Yamnaya people looked like and they looked closer to Indians than how we Eastern Europeans look like that is why I was so surprised. Is there a calculator where I can check my relationship to Corded people ?

[cass]

I checked up how the Yamnaya people looked like and they looked closer to Indians than how we Eastern Europeans look like that is why I was so surprised. Is there a calculator where I can check my relationship to Corded people ?

They were people of the steppe, very distant from the present inhabitants of India
https://i.ibb.co/TkKnqQr/Vahaduo-Global-25-West-Eurasia-PCA.png (https://ibb.co/JKxbFYC)
https://i.ibb.co/YR6dv2b/yamna.png (https://ibb.co/TvZ0zcr)

[rothaer]

https://i.imgur.com/zSpd02m.jpg

[Token]

I checked up how the Yamnaya people looked like and they looked closer to Indians than how we Eastern Europeans look like that is why I was so surprised. Is there a calculator where I can check my relationship to Corded people ?

You probably saw some crap reconstructions made by a brown anthrotard. These are professional reconstructions of Yamnaya:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2b/5b/4b/2b5b4be113060677acb1cb088f7e9ac8.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f4/d3/9b/f4d39b1080032d740e363bd1dd81c1f2.jpg

https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn.net/newman/gfx/news/hires/2015/whenmoderneu.jpg

[rothaer]

https://i.imgur.com/zSpd02m.jpg

And here my child with the highest Yamnaya in the family:

https://i.imgur.com/Sl6lDor.jpg

[jelliedsoup]

Actual results:

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Euro Scaled results

120741

[ScandinavianCelt]

I get over 60% on some tests but this test is 46.27%. unless I noted it will just be my official scaled coordinates on these posts but occasionally I play with the distance to see what it looks like maybe a little further out because I don't think we always get just the closest genetic distances we end up with other things obviously

https://i.postimg.cc/NjFxkqfZ/50c6efe4-2401-47f8-8481-608cfe7f4ec5.jpg (https://postimg.cc/dhMdJfC9)

[Lemminkäinen]

https://i.ibb.co/JpJtd60/872aee00-f134-4f58-95ff-75a2d2544a07.jpg

[Ritz06]

https://i.imgur.com/wtdl1dK.jpg

[cass]

https://i.imgur.com/wtdl1dK.jpg

Astonishingly low SHG level.

[Duke]

I think my ancestors were hugely Yamnaya, since they mixed here with local Balkanites and Latins who were pred EEF, so mine 45% is probably diminished from times long gone...

[Dušan]

https://i.imgur.com/eJL8JSg.jpg

[Ritz06]

Astonishingly low SHG level.

I know :confused:

[ScandinavianCelt]

https://i.imgur.com/eJL8JSg.jpg

How does a Serb get so much Scandinavian hunter-gatherer seems weird to me because the serbs were moving North and West and Northwest from where they are today into Europe Germany and eventually some of Scandinavia but I didn't know the Scandinavians were going the other way down into Serbia?

[Figaro]

How does a Serb get so much Scandinavian hunter-gatherer seems weird to me because the serbs were moving North and West and Northwest from where they are today into Europe Germany and eventually some of Scandinavia but I didn't know the Scandinavians were going the other way down into Serbia?

This probably shouldn't be interpreted so literally. Perhaps some East Gothic type ancestry made it's way down there, but I cannot imagine it's that high.

[Dušan]

How does a Serb get so much Scandinavian hunter-gatherer seems weird to me because the serbs were moving North and West and Northwest from where they are today into Europe Germany and eventually some of Scandinavia but I didn't know the Scandinavians were going the other way down into Serbia?

Maybe that is not too much.

This girl is Polish Slav and she got 23.37%.



120732

I am so glad that other Polish people (and our Eastern European neigbours) posted their results. How comes we Slavs score so high in Yamnaya?




Slavs (including Serbs), came to Balkans from area of Poland/Ukraine/east Germany, and mixed with locals.

So I dont think it is surprise I got 10.82%.

[Gergő Marosvári]

https://i.postimg.cc/xdnqy5SQ/7638a2a4-1b5c-4346-bf5c-663e642f0977.jpg

[cass]

This probably shouldn't be interpreted so literally. Perhaps some East Gothic type ancestry made it's way down there, but I cannot imagine it's that high.

This is a simplified model showing only SHG. South_Baltic_Coast_10KYA is not far from SHG. Therefore, Lithuanians and to some extent Western Slavs are more similar to SHG in this model.

Lithuanian example
https://i.ibb.co/ZcDh6xG/7d81fe72-cf3e-4394-bc39-7ea09868ec3d.jpg (https://ibb.co/kqChgX5)

Clearly, these groups are more incumbent in Northern Europe.

[noricum]

https://i.postimg.cc/zf4smvZT/e2b80ddc-e608-4915-a82f-70e2760c8628.jpg (https://postimg.cc/SX7TCyKK)

[Duke]

How does a Serb get so much Scandinavian hunter-gatherer seems weird to me because the serbs were moving North and West and Northwest from where they are today into Europe Germany and eventually some of Scandinavia but I didn't know the Scandinavians were going the other way down into Serbia?

They are northern HG, they got assimilated into slavics and germanics.

I think watched somewhere, they were short and stocky, kinda like fantasy dwarves :D

[cass]

They are northern HG, they got assimilated into slavics and germanics.

I think watched somewhere, they were short and stocky, kinda like fantasy dwarves :D


Ancient genomes suggest that hunter-gatherer populations were not only genetically predisposed to being tall, but also often had ideal living conditions for physical development.
https://genomicatlas.org/2021/04/26/human-height-in-prehistoric-europe/

[Duke]

https://genomicatlas.org/2021/04/26/human-height-in-prehistoric-europe/

Yeah western ones, but skandinavians were stocky and robust, at least thats how I remember on top of my head, could be wrong tho

[cass]

Yeah western ones, but skandinavians were stocky and robust, at least thats how I remember on top of my head, could be wrong tho


Scandinavian hunter-gatherers (SHG)
Another Mesolithic population with a very high polygenic height score. It doesn’t come as a shock, given that the SHGs were in a similar position as Yamnaya/WSH in that they were a mix of 2 hunter-gatherer populations (WHG + EHG in the case of SHGs) with high polygenic height scores. Additionally, SHG skeletons generally show signs of excellent health. This was a thriving group of people, and it’s blatantly reflected in their skeletal remains and genomes.

[Duke]

Could be conflicted opinions.... and sure is, avarage height for men was 166cm, similar to EEF, while yamnaya were 10 cm taller on avarage.

I belive Strandid comes from them, of course strandid was morphed and changed by PiE, but they were basically living out of sea and rivers, with fishing as main food source.



These kind of types (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Nordiske_Mediedager_2010_-_Friday_-_NMD_2010_%284586928084%29_%28cropped%29.jpg)

[cass]

Could be conflicted opinions.

I belive Strandid comes from them, of course strandid was morphed and changed by PiE, but they were basically living out of sea and rivers, with fishing as main food source.



These kind of types (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Nordiske_Mediedager_2010_-_Friday_-_NMD_2010_%284586928084%29_%28cropped%29.jpg)

https://i.ibb.co/X4ZVG4R/main-qimg-9396788e01f6a6dc25fdf116769039ec-lq.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[Duke]

https://i.ibb.co/X4ZVG4R/main-qimg-9396788e01f6a6dc25fdf116769039ec-lq.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

...avarage height for HG men was 166cm, similar to EEF, while yamnaya were 10 cm taller on avarage.

As i said, looks like a dwarf :D

[ScandinavianCelt]

https://i.postimg.cc/xdnqy5SQ/7638a2a4-1b5c-4346-bf5c-663e642f0977.jpg

How much Yamnaya do you show on this "Basic World K10" test?

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/108/basic-world-k10-by-tomenable-piotr-kapuscinsk.htm

I get 59.6% at 1x and 2x ADC, and 50.6% at no ADC.

[Duke]

Craots are maybe only ones that still hold traditional horsemanship exhibition of skill, that isnt LARP or turist trap with fight choreographic.

That shows we are in touch with our Yamnnaya ancestors :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzKy4vKYFe4

[Pedro Ruben]

https://i.imgur.com/pkjqQEz.jpg

[gixajo]

Craots are maybe only ones that still hold traditional horsemanship exhibition of skill, that isnt LARP or turist trap with fight choreographic.

That shows we are in touch with our Yamnnaya ancestors :D

o]

Spaniards are not those in Europe more in touch with their Yamnaya ancestors but rather more with EEF but:

Galicia


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoD1eWLEzXQ&ab_channel=RapadasBestas

Murcia Caravaca de la Cruz


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_grHjYmPCU&ab_channel=euronews%28enespa%C3%B1ol%29

Murcia Lorca


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKE0MX2Mnms&ab_channel=anuchons

Extremadura


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGOjbOtxM4Y&ab_channel=EuropaPress

Baleares islands


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spkYJ9McCBQ&ab_channel=InmobiliariaSesMoreres

Andalusia San Lúcar de Barrameda


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-KgboyHk6Y&ab_channel=CanalSurTurismo

Adalucía Jeréz.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99MRMVFED-k&ab_channel=CanalSurTurismo

And many other places.

[cass]

Spaniards are not those in Europe more in touch with their Yamnaya ancestors but rather more with EEF but:

.

but...

The invasion that wiped out every man from Spain 4,500 years ago (https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2018/10/03/inenglish/1538568010_930565.html)

[gixajo]

but...

RL]

Yes, it is most likely that horses were tamed by the peoples who inhabited the Eurasian steppes and became usual domestic animals in Europe when some people from those peoples came . I mean that there are not only things like this in your country, in Spain horse traditions and culture are very common throughout the peninsula.

Just like the festivities, traditions and culture around the bull, which are not just the "corridas".

[Boudin]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=120870&stc=1