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gixajo
07-08-2023, 10:30 AM
Medieval-based Slav-focused super-mega-calculator so that the Slavs can fight for the title of the most Slavic individual in TA!!!

(It´s me, but well, you can participate)

ADD DIST COL: NO (recommended)

For fun&fight.:wink


Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA,0.129379,0.118817,0.0886237,0. 0915167,0.046778,0.0363487,0.013474,0.0148457,0.00 40223,-0.0346857,-0.0089853,-0.0133377,0.0173437,0.02624,-0.003031,0.0135683,0.0149073,-0.0040963,0.0007963,-8.33e-05,0.0007073,0.001319,0.00493,0.0008433,-0.0006783
Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0. 060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.00143 2,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA,0.127482,0.125926,0.062602,0.05 3618,0.035699,0.02008,0.00658,0.016845,-0.0045,-0.015308,0.000974,-0.008093,0.016947,0.02202,-0.016286,0.001989,0.007562,-0.001647,-0.002011,0.001626,-0.006738,-0.013107,0.012941,-0.00723,0.00012
Balkans:ALB_MA,0.120273,0.1502983,0.0158387,-0.0279933,0.0196957,-0.007251,-0.00141,-0.0031537,0.0025907,0.0223547,0.000487,0.0052957,-0.014519,9.2e-05,-0.0152457,-0.0100767,0.0092573,0.000718,0.0085057,-0.0132563,-0.0108557,0.005276,-0.0013557,-0.0038957,-0.003393
Balkans:MKD_BA,0.133173,0.150298,0.010559,-0.02261,0.026774,-0.00753,0.003525,-0.000923,0.004704,0.030433,0.001949,0.002698,-0.012487,0.001789,-0.015744,0.000398,0.008475,0.003927,0.008547,-0.010255,-0.013851,0.007296,-0.003821,-0.002169,-0.000838
Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz,0.103 2685,0.1465133,-0.0295183,-0.0603129,-0.0010912,-0.0218548,-0.0007691,-0.0037342,-0.0063401,0.0165503,0.003469,0.0024525,-0.0037435,0.0023771,-0.0134485,0.0013982,0.0098735,-0.0012667,0.0038054,-0.001569,-0.0054223,0.0008993,-0.0008737,0.001435,-0.0020683
Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz,0.1085115,0.1 44036,-0.0135137,-0.0428513,0.0093865,-0.0153855,0.0047783,-0.0011153,-0.0080105,0.0118755,0.0033832,0.002148,-0.003023,0.0053442,-0.0087767,-0.0098115,-0.004998,0.0025972,0.0038337,-0.0070867,-0.0011647,-0.0032357,-0.001294,-0.0028115,-0.0010978
Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity,0.1130169,0.148775 ,0.0057355,-0.0298371,0.0238762,-0.012399,-0.0004504,-0.0026633,0.006792,0.0239033,0.0014005,0.0050268,-0.0083498,-0.003108,-0.0045523,-0.0004917,0.0042865,0.0005385,0.0032735,-0.0014902,-0.000993,0.0016075,-0.0009192,0.0002611,-0.0012474
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman,0.079107,-0.0741335,0.01829,-0.0075905,-0.043085,-0.0133865,0.0029375,0.000808,-0.010124,-0.012119,-0.00885,-0.0063695,-0.0057235,-0.0088075,0.0052255,0,0.007758,0.000887,-0.0018855,-0.000375,-0.0089845,-0.0004325,-0.0096135,-0.001747,0.0003595
Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA,0.1303545,0.1366371,0.060 7075,0.0460429,0.0410918,0.0149871,0.0024563,0.004 3295,0.0074554,0.0075758,-0.0041061,0.0061374,-0.0144555,-0.0129595,0.0205907,0.0035325,-0.0115638,0.0021356,0.0021398,0.0025072,0.0056625, 0.0041012,-0.0035243,0.0044498,-0.0008981
Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA,0.1265712,0.133847,0.0619234,0 .046512,0.0367454,0.0169564,0.001645,0.0099688,0.0 02986,0.0020412,-0.0060082,0.0029074,-0.0144202,-0.0087804,0.0168292,0.0051178,-0.0102744,-0.0005068,0.0062094,0.0058776,0.0065134,0.0041796, 0.0047574,0.0129416,0.0030416
Iberian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga,0.112685,0.1472515, 0.049214,0.008398,0.05124,0.0034865,0.003995,0.003 231,0.031701,0.029158,-0.0035725,0.007718,-0.0199205,-0.0104595,0.01364,0.004044,0.000587,0.003484,0.002 2,0.006503,0.00574,0.002349,-0.003882,-0.008495,6e-05
Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES,0.118376,0.1457285,0.0446885,0.013566,0.044 6235,-0.000139,0.0005875,0.007615,0.024441,0.0266065,-0.0080385,0.008917,-0.0064665,-0.006675,0.012079,0.002055,-0.008279,0.004371,-0.000754,0.0027515,-0.0004995,-0.0009275,-0.0056695,0.00241,-0.0022755
Levant:Levant_Ashkelon_LBA,0.0921967,0.1462363,-0.061722,-0.0915167,-0.0139513,-0.0366277,0.0032117,-0.008846,0.0072263,0.012635,0.015535,-0.015736,0.018781,0.0088997,-0.0078717,0.008972,-0.0043027,0.0013093,-0.0006287,-0.0070033,0.0020797,0.000371,-0.00608,0.002812,0.003832
Siberian:RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven,0.0473788,-0.3565142,0.1162946,0.0476627,-0.1192914,-0.0389401,-0.1203988,-0.1403451,0.0007669,-0.0159799,0.0248759,-0.0064447,0.0098394,-0.0182608,-0.0336502,-0.0148834,-0.0021595,0.0124076,0.0327128,0.0197752,0.0262272,-0.0441054,0.0074489,0.0281062,0.0383199
South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA,0.061464,-0.013202,-0.120301,0.080104,-0.074168,0.048248,-0.00517,0.004154,0.002045,-0.00328,-0.007632,-0.003297,0.00892,-0.00812,0.000543,0.013259,0.004563,0.00114,0.00314 2,-0.004002,-0.00262,-0.001113,0.007272,-0.004699,-0.002155

gixajo
07-08-2023, 10:33 AM
F**ck we are not Slavs...?:confused:

And these Balkan "Illyrians" again in our results...:picard1:

And my father is Italian? oh shit...:disapproving

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6161% / 0.01616079
88.6 Iberian
11.0 Balkans
0.4 Italian

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.4685% / 0.02468457
71.0 Iberian
15.2 Italian
12.8 Balkans
1.0 Levant

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.1923% / 0.02192300
95.4 Iberian
4.6 Celto-Germanic

Target: gixajo_enana_scaled
Distance: 1.9146% / 0.01914599
92.4 Iberian
7.6 Balkans

Far_away
07-08-2023, 10:37 AM
Target: SLAVIC POWER
Distance: 2.2620% / 0.02262033
49.6 Balkans
43.6 Slavs&Balts
6.8 Byzantines

Dušan
07-08-2023, 10:43 AM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.1326% / 0.02132601
60.6 Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA
22.8 Balkans:MKD_BA
16.6 Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz

oszkar07
07-08-2023, 10:43 AM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.2128% / 0.02212764
53.8 Celto-Germanic
35.0 Slavs&Balts
7.8 Byzantines
3.4 Balkans

Selene
07-08-2023, 10:45 AM
Target: Cassie_scaled
Distance: 1.7234% / 0.01723435
58.2 Slavs&Balts
40.4 Balkans
1.4 Siberian

Grace O'Malley
07-08-2023, 10:50 AM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.1233% / 0.02123251
91.6 Celto-Germanic
8.4 Slavs&Balts


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.1233% / 0.02123251
69.2 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
22.4 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
8.4 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA

Gallop
07-08-2023, 10:51 AM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.1872% / 0.02187184
86.2 Iberian
12.2 Byzantines
1.6 Turkic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.9077% / 0.02907718
81.0 Iberian
10.4 Balkans
6.0 Byzantines
2.6 Slavs&Balts

Annihilus
07-08-2023, 10:51 AM
Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 2.4489% / 0.02448898
73.8 Byzantines
15.6 Slavs&Balts
8.2 South_Asian
2.4 Turkic

Kiel
07-08-2023, 10:59 AM
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 1.5452% / 0.01545202
53.6 Celto-Germanic
22.8 Slavs&Balts
17.0 Italian
6.6 Levant

Katarzyna
07-08-2023, 11:02 AM
Target: Katarzyna_scaled(PolishBelarusianUkrainian)
Distance: 1.1290% / 0.01128996
91.0 Slavs&Balts
5.6 Balkans
1.6 Byzantines
1.2 Iberian
0.6 Celto-Germanic

Distance to: Katarzyna_scaled(PolishBelarusianUkrainian)
0.02298597 Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA
0.02464150 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
0.04521061 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
0.06943947 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
0.07635341 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
0.10017123 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.10993064 Iberian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga
0.13338180 Balkans:MKD_BA
0.13471691 Balkans:ALB_MA
0.13972764 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.15654045 Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz
0.18309222 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
0.23061722 Levant:Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
0.24887968 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman
0.27949843 South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA
0.56718439 Siberian:RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven

paradox
07-08-2023, 11:05 AM
Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 1.1371% / 0.01137135
31.4 Balkans
30.4 Slavs&Balts
24.4 Byzantines
13.0 Levant
0.6 Siberian
0.2 Celto-Germanic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.0826% / 0.02082610
35.2 Slavs&Balts
28.2 Balkans
16.6 Byzantines
12.0 Celto-Germanic
8.0 Levant

Beowulf
07-08-2023, 11:05 AM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0151% / 0.01509537
44.4 Iberian
23.7 Balkans
22.2 Celto-Germanic
7.4 Italian
2.3 Slavs&Balts

gixajo
07-08-2023, 11:12 AM
8.4 Slavs&Balts




Grace...? You are Slav!!!

MandM
07-08-2023, 11:12 AM
Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.0333% / 0.02033304
61.6 Balkans
35.2 Slavs&Balts
3.2 Byzantines

Gergő Marosvári
07-08-2023, 11:22 AM
Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.3137% / 0.01313730
58.2 Slavs&Balts
18.0 Byzantines
13.2 Balkans
6.2 Celto-Germanic
3.8 Turkic
0.6 South_Asian

Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.3137% / 0.01313730
38.0 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
20.2 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
18.0 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
13.2 Balkans:MKD_BA
6.2 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
3.8 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman
0.6 South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA

Russki
07-08-2023, 11:34 AM
Medieval-based Slav-focused super-mega-calculator so that the Slavs can fight for the title of the most Slavic individual in TA!!!


I don't know why ugochaves is trying hard to be some kind of Proto-Slav.

His closest 3 modern populations are Belarusians, Ukrainians and Estonians.

I deliberately excluded Russian averages, and used Ukrainian and Lithuanian national averages that don't exist on the official datasheet.



Ukrainian,0.13028,0.12385233,0.067803167,0.0573594 17,0.037801792,0.021509417,0.0093513333,0.011211,-0.0029740833,-0.022187208,-0.000493875,-0.007449625,0.015336792,0.023762833,-0.0114005,-0.0026849583,0.0017819583,-0.00030616667,0.003571875,-0.0000051666667,-0.0058855,-0.0046112917,0.00619325,-0.0049302917,0.000414125
Lithuanian,0.13636,0.1289724,0.0843244,0.0804916,0 .0464084,0.0303992,0.0098706,0.0160608,0.0009408,-0.0279188,-0.0058784,-0.0107606,0.0233098,0.0324238,-0.0103962,-0.0003182,-0.0029204,-0.0017738,0.001106,0.002126,-0.0025956,-0.0033386,0.0103526,-0.0083384,-0.0001196



https://sun9-27.userapi.com/impg/M5rgRtw6zgced_267uJiQMalDr3rv__Menb0oA/x8bXrsKYIco.jpg?size=450x550&quality=95&sign=a4e2b31a22a1f5d98ebc2ea734999a25&type=album

Katarzyna
07-08-2023, 11:37 AM
Medieval-based Slav-focused super-mega-calculator so that the Slavs can fight for the title of the most Slavic individual in TA!!!

([/CODE]

Currently I am leading. Hehe ;) But just wait until this evening when all the Proto-Slavs will be online and escalate this forum.

LaSentinelle
07-08-2023, 11:40 AM
Target: Dmitryscaled
Distance: 2.0545% / 0.02054455
76.8 Slavs&Balts
18.6 Celto-Germanic
4.2 Turkic
0.4 Siberian

>4.2 Turkic
https://youtu.be/QXu5loryutM?t=9

Beowulf
07-08-2023, 11:53 AM
Grandmother:


Target: Abuela
Distance: 0.0204% / 0.02044509 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.9 Iberian
21.5 Slavs&Balts
15.8 Levant
2.8 Siberian

Grandfather:

Target: Abuelo
Distance: 0.0203% / 0.02029508
56.3 Celto-Germanic
22.3 Iberian
10.3 Balkans
9.2 Slavs&Balts
1.9 Byzantines

Mother:

Target: Mama
Distance: 0.0035% / 0.00347781
29.1 Iberian
25.8 Celto-Germanic
19.7 Balkans
11.3 Slavs&Balts
11.1 Italian
3.0 Levant

Pretty good^^^

Father:

Target: Papa
Distance: 0.0177% / 0.01768582
77.7 Iberian
19.5 Balkans
2.8 Italian

gixajo
07-08-2023, 11:53 AM
I don't know why ugochaves is trying hard to be some kind of Proto-Slav.

His closest 3 modern populations are Belarusians, Ukrainians and Estonians.

g]

I don't think we can accurately determine what a proto-slavic is, so I included three "Balto-Slavic" references, one more western, one more southern, and one more centered.

Plus, I don´t think as you do that being more Baltic-shifted implies to be (more) proto-slavic like, but I can agree that thay seem be related .

Anyway you forgot some references, this is his distance list:

https://i.postimg.cc/4dpnVBHc/ugo.png (https://postimages.org/)

And yours, but not very reliable because you haven´t got real G25 coordinates but simulated ones.

https://i.postimg.cc/6Q3dVJBv/russkidist.png (https://postimages.org/)

Anyway you both are close and you are in the same category, so basically you are the same (awaiting for your real coordinates though):


Distance to: ugochaves(Russian)
0.02303500 Russky

Even you can be the same person using 2 sets of coordinates, real and simulated ones. :)

gixajo
07-08-2023, 12:19 PM
My post including Russian averages:


Today, 01:53 PM


Russky editing his post including this:




I deliberately excluded Russian averages, and used Ukrainian and Lithuanian national averages that don't exist on the official datasheet.




Ukrainian,0.13028,0.12385233,0.067803167,0.0573594 17,0.037801792,0.021509417,0.0093513333,0.011211,-0.0029740833,-0.022187208,-0.000493875,-0.007449625,0.015336792,0.023762833,-0.0114005,-0.0026849583,0.0017819583,-0.00030616667,0.003571875,-0.0000051666667,-0.0058855,-0.0046112917,0.00619325,-0.0049302917,0.000414125
Lithuanian,0.13636,0.1289724,0.0843244,0.0804916,0 .0464084,0.0303992,0.0098706,0.0160608,0.0009408,-0.0279188,-0.0058784,-0.0107606,0.0233098,0.032


Last edited by Russki; Today at 02:09 PM.

gixajo
07-08-2023, 12:26 PM
Your Lithuanian average is incomplete, but I have some old Russian, Lithuanian and Ukrainian averages made:


Lithuanian,0.1351696,0.1252487,0.0841702,0.0812399 ,0.0437402,0.0310126,0.010828,0.0158916,-0.003142,-0.0316931,-0.003967,-0.0118045,0.0215508,0.0293188,-0.0113644,0.0003735,0.003076,-0.0004276,0.0028895,0.0028811,-0.0041329,-0.0054201,0.0084179,-0.0077303,0.0001022
Ukrainian,0.1275244,0.1262615,0.0585965,0.0444641, 0.0345502,0.0165661,0.0082079,0.0100555,-0.0009366,-0.0158974,-0.0026752,-0.0071311,0.0125518,0.0201445,-0.0103244,-0.0017842,0.0027125,-0.0003058,0.0031778,-0.0001871,-0.0042282,-0.0045802,0.0054016,-0.0030968,0.0005734
Russian,0.128999,0.0995464,0.079033,0.0687034,0.03 0017,0.0222787,0.0104035,0.013037,-0.0019673,-0.0272847,0.002174,-0.010053,0.0184949,0.0186775,-0.0110833,-0.0024305,0.0019456,-0.0016823,0.0002504,0.0022998,-0.0007596,-0.0029287,0.0033079,-0.0033539,0.0004212


Distance to: Russky
0.01801236 Lithuanian
0.02615165 Russian
0.03925451 Ukrainian

Distance to: ugochaves(Russian)
0.02276284 Russian
0.03371882 Lithuanian
0.04145977 Ukrainian

So I would say that ugo seems to be more representative of Russians and you are closer to Baltics (not a good comparison because we are comparing 2 individuals that use coordinates from different sources).

retfala
07-08-2023, 12:50 PM
Target: retfala_scaled
Distance: 0.7580% / 0.00758027
52.8 Slavs&Balts
30.6 Balkans
8.8 Italian
7.4 Iberian
0.4 Siberian

Voskos
07-08-2023, 12:58 PM
Target: kosmos
Distance: 2.2433% / 0.02243305 | ADC: 1x RC
53.2 Byzantines
46.8 Italian

Target: kosmos
Distance: 1.8623% / 0.01862319 | ADC: 0.5x RC
65.8 Italian
21.6 Levant
12.6 Byzantines

Lemminkäinen
07-08-2023, 01:00 PM
Very correct. Swedish-Germanic would be closer, because Norwegians have more Atlantic/Celtic, Swedes more "North Sea",


Target: maurim1_scaled
Distance: 2.2229% / 0.02222875
66.4 Slavs&Balts
29.0 Celto-Germanic
4.4 Siberian
0.2 Turkic

Distance to: maurim1_scaled
0.04402887 Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA
0.05171941 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
0.05414031 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
0.06717172 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
0.07335345 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
0.10975948 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.11960439 Iberian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga
0.14999276 Balkans:MKD_BA
0.15086339 Balkans:ALB_MA
0.15449187 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.17119183 Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz
0.19844566 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
0.22906681 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman
0.24533825 Levant:Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
0.26935492 South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA
0.54159796 Siberian:RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven

Grace O'Malley
07-08-2023, 01:04 PM
Grace...? You are Slav!!!

Na zdrowie

https://c0.wallpaperflare.com/preview/460/457/253/two-person-toasting-with-wine-glasses.jpg

ugochaves
07-08-2023, 01:09 PM
I don't know why ugochaves is trying hard to be some kind of Proto-Slav.

His closest 3 modern populations are Belarusians, Ukrainians and Estonians.

I deliberately excluded Russian averages, and used Ukrainian and Lithuanian national averages that don't exist on the official datasheet.



Ukrainian,0.13028,0.12385233,0.067803167,0.0573594 17,0.037801792,0.021509417,0.0093513333,0.011211,-0.0029740833,-0.022187208,-0.000493875,-0.007449625,0.015336792,0.023762833,-0.0114005,-0.0026849583,0.0017819583,-0.00030616667,0.003571875,-0.0000051666667,-0.0058855,-0.0046112917,0.00619325,-0.0049302917,0.000414125
Lithuanian,0.13636,0.1289724,0.0843244,0.0804916,0 .0464084,0.0303992,0.0098706,0.0160608,0.0009408,-0.0279188,-0.0058784,-0.0107606,0.0233098,0.0324238,-0.0103962,-0.0003182,-0.0029204,-0.0017738,0.001106,0.002126,-0.0025956,-0.0033386,0.0103526,-0.0083384,-0.0001196



https://sun9-27.userapi.com/impg/M5rgRtw6zgced_267uJiQMalDr3rv__Menb0oA/x8bXrsKYIco.jpg?size=450x550&quality=95&sign=a4e2b31a22a1f5d98ebc2ea734999a25&type=album
The ancestral homeland of the Balto-Slavs was located in the western part of central Russia. My DNA is a quarter Finno-Ugric (because I have a northern mother), but Western Russians show a result almost completely devoid of all Finnish. Ukrainians are beginning to reach out to the Balkans. It is also impossible to call Ukraine the ancestral homeland of the Slavs. Poland is even more so. There is a lot of German and Balkan in Poles. Belarusians are too Baltic. Only Western Russians have never had substrate

PS You should purchase the real coordinates of g25. It is not known how realistic it is to pay abroad today. Your coordinates are unreliable. there are no eastern Russians deprived of Finno-Ugric peoples.

ugochaves
07-08-2023, 01:12 PM
I don't think we can accurately determine what a proto-slavic is, so I included three "Balto-Slavic" references, one more western, one more southern, and one more centered.

Plus, I don´t think as you do that being more Baltic-shifted implies to be (more) proto-slavic like, but I can agree that thay seem be related .

Anyway you forgot some references, this is his distance list:

https://i.postimg.cc/4dpnVBHc/ugo.png (https://postimages.org/)

And yours, but not very reliable because you haven´t got real G25 coordinates but simulated ones.

https://i.postimg.cc/6Q3dVJBv/russkidist.png (https://postimages.org/)

Anyway you both are close and you are in the same category, so basically you are the same (awaiting for your real coordinates though):



Even you can be the same person using 2 sets of coordinates, real and simulated ones. :)

Do you want to see the Proto-Slavic language? You should be using my ex-wife's g25 coordinates. I'm too Finn.

gixajo
07-08-2023, 01:19 PM
Na zdrowie

MG]

So finally you accept that you are a Balto-Slavic woman with a slighty Celto-Germanic input of about 92%, isn´t it?

I'm glad you accept reality as it is.

slàinte! :cheers:

gixajo
07-08-2023, 01:19 PM
Do you want to see the Proto-Slavic language? You should be using my ex-wife's g25 coordinates. I'm too Finn.



Actually I am not interested, but thanks.

gixajo
07-08-2023, 01:22 PM
Repeated

Vega7
07-08-2023, 01:25 PM
Distance: 1.3679%

74.6 Slavs&Balts
25.4 Balkans

Very similar to the other calculations I've run. I only ever get Slavic+Balkan (was stated as Thracian in another calculator). Never get any Germanic or anything else.

gixajo
07-08-2023, 01:31 PM
Very correct. Swedish-Germanic would be closer, because Norwegians have more Atlantic/Celtic, Swedes more "North Sea",
n

Can you try this one with modern references if it works well for your origins?


Baltics,0.1351696,0.1252487,0.0841702,0.0812399,0. 0437402,0.0310126,0.010828,0.0158916,-0.003142,-0.0316931,-0.003967,-0.0118045,0.0215508,0.0293188,-0.0113644,0.0003735,0.003076,-0.0004276,0.0028895,0.0028811,-0.0041329,-0.0054201,0.0084179,-0.0077303,0.0001022
Northern_Slavs:A,0.1275244,0.1262615,0.0585965,0.0 444641,0.0345502,0.0165661,0.0082079,0.0100555,-0.0009366,-0.0158974,-0.0026752,-0.0071311,0.0125518,0.0201445,-0.0103244,-0.0017842,0.0027125,-0.0003058,0.0031778,-0.0001871,-0.0042282,-0.0045802,0.0054016,-0.0030968,0.0005734
Northern_Slavs:B,0.128999,0.0995464,0.079033,0.068 7034,0.030017,0.0222787,0.0104035,0.013037,-0.0019673,-0.0272847,0.002174,-0.010053,0.0184949,0.0186775,-0.0110833,-0.0024305,0.0019456,-0.0016823,0.0002504,0.0022998,-0.0007596,-0.0029287,0.0033079,-0.0033539,0.0004212
Finnish,0.129749,0.086267,0.090345,0.078094,0.0302 89,0.022728,0.008918,0.014454,0.003948,-0.02498,0.00456,-0.006598,0.013643,0.005446,0.001208,0.00113,-0.004139,-0.000072,-0.000394,0.003812,0.008411,-0.000097,0.001627,0.007286,0.003006
South_Slavs:East,0.124036,0.136166,0.027597,0.0038 76,0.025086,0.002271,0.0056,0.004346,-0.000597,0.005034,-0.002116,-0.000333,0.000688,0.009601,-0.01329,-0.00217,0.006106,0.000228,0.003603,-0.00354,-0.007362,-0.001167,0.003555,-0.001795,-0.000654
South_Slavs:South,0.127584,0.136193,0.04155,0.0178 42,0.031529,0.007314,0.004742,0.005916,-0.001155,0.000216,-0.0011,-0.001576,0.002763,0.013063,-0.012783,0.001039,0.006478,-0.000445,0.005406,-0.000232,-0.006083,-0.001305,0.005969,0.00108,-0.000949
Western_Slavs,0.131085,0.131749,0.065417,0.053332, 0.042838,0.020464,0.008268,0.0096,-0.000395,-0.014076,-0.002516,-0.005201,0.010524,0.014681,-0.005711,0.002696,0.005578,-0.001544,0.004683,0.000602,-0.002871,-0.003225,0.006117,-0.000483,0.000203
Germanic,0.129261,0.13641,0.059794,0.042199,0.0398 51,0.016851,0.005013,0.006759,0.004172,0.000738,-0.004566,0.002789,-0.006879,-0.003561,0.012279,0.003241,-0.005588,0.001853,0.003353,0.001658,0.003039,0.002 211,0.000983,0.009683,-0.000105

Nausevar
07-08-2023, 01:31 PM
Target: Nausevar_scaled
Distance: 2.0645% / 0.02064459
46.2 Slavs&Balts
34.8 Balkans
15.2 Italian
2.0 Levant
1.4 Byzantines
0.4 Celto-Germanic

Lemminkäinen
07-08-2023, 01:35 PM
One Quarter North Russian, one quarter South Finnish, one quarter Swedish. I am a bit sceptical of Davidski's Finnish allocations. The data he uses lacks of regional data.

Distance to: maurim1_scaled
0.02394646 Finnish_Southwest
0.02799782 Russian_Kostroma
0.03022829 Finnish_Southeast
0.03105514 Russian_Tver
0.03175776 Russian_Yaroslavl
0.03394820 Estonian
0.03491103 Russian_Ryazan
0.03511328 Russian_Krasnoborsky
0.03546384 Russian_Kursk
0.03801529 Russian_Orel
0.03877424 Russian_Kaluga
0.03974474 Russian_Pskov
0.04028611 Russian_Voronez
0.04172581 Finnish_East
0.04263633 Russian_Smolensk
0.04388015 Russian_Belgorod
0.04437185 Swedish
0.05150734 Russian_Pinega
0.05255140 Latvian
0.05413278 Russian_Pinezhsky
0.07143382 Russian_Leshukonsky

Target: maurim1_scaled
Distance: 1.1995% / 0.01199532
25.8 Russian_Kostroma
25.6 Finnish_Southwest
24.0 Swedish
11.8 Finnish_Southeast
9.8 Latvian
3.0 Russian_Leshukonsky

ugochaves
07-08-2023, 01:40 PM
Actually I am not interested, but thanks.
I am very sorry that you are not interested. Today, no one studies the Russian dna and the ancestral homeland of the Slavs. There was one scientist, but he drowned. He studied northern Russians mostly. Northern Russians make up 10% of all Russians. He paid almost no attention to the other 90% of Russians. It is very good that there is a Davidsky in the world, and we can play with our coordinates. I don't mind if you use my coordinates. That's why I made them. My wife is from the west of the Kaluga region. She has no other ancestors. My ancestors are scattered all over the territory of European Russia. Therefore, you will not see any clear picture of the Russian in my coordinates.

Vega7
07-08-2023, 01:41 PM
I don't think we can accurately determine what a proto-slavic is, so I included three "Balto-Slavic" references, one more western, one more southern, and one more centered.

Plus, I don´t think as you do that being more Baltic-shifted implies to be (more) proto-slavic like, but I can agree that thay seem be related .

Anyway you forgot some references, this is his distance list:

https://i.postimg.cc/4dpnVBHc/ugo.png (https://postimages.org/)

And yours, but not very reliable because you haven´t got real G25 coordinates but simulated ones.

https://i.postimg.cc/6Q3dVJBv/russkidist.png (https://postimages.org/)

Anyway you both are close and you are in the same category, so basically you are the same (awaiting for your real coordinates though):



Even you can be the same person using 2 sets of coordinates, real and simulated ones. :)

The Estonian sample seems to be an outlier. My closest 2 matches were Lutsk (0.028), Rus_Sunghir (0.037), and then the Estonian sample was 0.078. I was actually closer to the Celtic samples than the Estonian.

Abriekman
07-08-2023, 01:55 PM
Target: Abriekman_scaled
Distance: 1.8969% / 0.01896934
78.0 Slavs&Balts
9.4 Celto-Germanic
7.0 Balkans
5.0 Levant
0.6 Siberian


I like it :thumb001:, my Southern Euro is not exaggerated here

gixajo
07-08-2023, 01:57 PM
I am very sorry that you are not interested. Today, no one studies the Russian dna and the ancestral homeland of the Slavs. There was one scientist, but he drowned. He studied northern Russians mostly. Northern Russians make up 10% of all Russians. He paid almost no attention to the other 90% of Russians. It is very good that there is a Davidsky in the world, and we can play with our coordinates. I don't mind if you use my coordinates. That's why I made them. My wife is from the west of the Kaluga region. She has no other ancestors. My ancestors are scattered all over the territory of European Russia. Therefore, you will not see any clear picture of the Russian in my coordinates.

I am convinced that as with many others cultural/ethnic groups happens, the people who started the Slavic "phenomenom", the very very initial group of those people, would be quite different from what we know today as "Slavic", and maybe surprising.

Anyway, Slavs shows today as a quite homogeneous "component", not completelly, but quite identifiable, and it would be even more identifiable even not having the certainty of an undoubted proto-Slavic reference, if there were one or some "pure antagonistic" components with which to be able to isolate it even better.

I digress a bit, I still need more rest to recover from the last few weeks of hectic in real life. :D

gixajo
07-08-2023, 02:10 PM
I am very sorry that you are not interested. Today, no one studies the Russian dna and the ancestral homeland of the Slavs. There was one scientist, but he drowned. He studied northern Russians mostly. Northern Russians make up 10% of all Russians. He paid almost no attention to the other 90% of Russians. It is very good that there is a Davidsky in the world, and we can play with our coordinates. I don't mind if you use my coordinates. That's why I made them. My wife is from the west of the Kaluga region. She has no other ancestors. My ancestors are scattered all over the territory of European Russia. Therefore, you will not see any clear picture of the Russian in my coordinates.

Having worked with PCAs and coordinates in multivariate statistics, I had ended up getting an idea of ​​how certain coordinates would be modeled based on given sources. When I tried the G25, it always gave me the impression that there are some groups that are not modeled as they should, and there are two groups: Slavs and Northwestern Europeans.

I still don't quite understand why coordinates that in the PCA are shown as clearly antagonistic due to their position are not shown in the proportion that they should be in the results of the vahaduo "modeler", while for other groups they arise at the slightest opportunity in a very clear, even when they shouldn't.

My intuition based on experience could be wrong, but it still seems unusual to me. :noidea:

The secrecy that exists on the part of the author regarding the coordinates of the G25, and a certain ideological bias of its author in the past do not help to clear up suspicions, but in principle, I have no solid bases to accuse him of falsifying reality with interest. :wink

majevica
07-08-2023, 02:15 PM
Target: majevica_scaled
Distance: 2.2200% / 0.02219994
51.6 Slavs&Balts
43.2 Balkans
4.8 Iberian
0.4 Levant

MandM
07-08-2023, 02:23 PM
Target: SLAVIC POWER
Distance: 2.2620% / 0.02262033
49.6 Balkans
43.6 Slavs&Balts
6.8 Byzantines

Your Slavic Power looks a litle modest :p

gixajo
07-08-2023, 02:26 PM
And now that I am talking about this subject, I will say that a former member (I think Belarusian?) Leto who always cursed about the G25 and who personally seemed like a real asshole to me, was quite right that some Gedmatch calculators worked in a more honest way when using as coordinates to model people than the G25.

That is, the G25 is better as a tool,works more afficiently but it could be less honest than (some) Gedmatch calculators.

It's like mobile phones and wire telegraphy. The second is impractical but its operation is so simple that any manipulation is more evident.:eek:

Selene
07-08-2023, 02:30 PM
Having worked with PCAs and coordinates in multivariate statistics, I had ended up getting an idea of ​​how certain coordinates would be modeled based on given sources. When I tried the G25, it always gave me the impression that there are some groups that are not modeled as they should, and there are two groups: Slavs and Northwestern Europeans.

I still don't quite understand why coordinates that in the PCA are shown as clearly antagonistic due to their position are not shown in the proportion that they should be in the results of the vahaduo "modeler", while for other groups they arise at the slightest opportunity in a very clear, even when they shouldn't.

My intuition based on experience could be wrong, but it still seems unusual to me. :noidea:

The secrecy that exists on the part of the author regarding the coordinates of the G25, and a certain ideological bias of its author in the past do not help to clear up suspicions, but in principle, I have no solid bases to accuse him of falsifying reality with interest. :wink


I'm not aware of Davidski's ideological bias. Can you tell more?

Katarzyna
07-08-2023, 02:38 PM
Your Lithuanian average is incomplete, but I have some old Russian, Lithuanian and Ukrainian averages made:


Lithuanian,0.1351696,0.1252487,0.0841702,0.0812399 ,0.0437402,0.0310126,0.010828,0.0158916,-0.003142,-0.0316931,-0.003967,-0.0118045,0.0215508,0.0293188,-0.0113644,0.0003735,0.003076,-0.0004276,0.0028895,0.0028811,-0.0041329,-0.0054201,0.0084179,-0.0077303,0.0001022
Ukrainian,0.1275244,0.1262615,0.0585965,0.0444641, 0.0345502,0.0165661,0.0082079,0.0100555,-0.0009366,-0.0158974,-0.0026752,-0.0071311,0.0125518,0.0201445,-0.0103244,-0.0017842,0.0027125,-0.0003058,0.0031778,-0.0001871,-0.0042282,-0.0045802,0.0054016,-0.0030968,0.0005734
Russian,0.128999,0.0995464,0.079033,0.0687034,0.03 0017,0.0222787,0.0104035,0.013037,-0.0019673,-0.0272847,0.002174,-0.010053,0.0184949,0.0186775,-0.0110833,-0.0024305,0.0019456,-0.0016823,0.0002504,0.0022998,-0.0007596,-0.0029287,0.0033079,-0.0033539,0.0004212


Distance to: Russky
0.01801236 Lithuanian
0.02615165 Russian
0.03925451 Ukrainian

Distance to: ugochaves(Russian)
0.02276284 Russian
0.03371882 Lithuanian
0.04145977 Ukrainian


I just tried to check the distance between Lithuanians and Ukrainians for several northern and north western populations. I find it surprising that a lot of Swedes, Britons, Dutch, Germans and others score much closer to Ukraine than Lithuania. Even if the latter one is geographically closer to them.

Far_away
07-08-2023, 02:50 PM
Your Slavic Power looks a litle modest :p

i know cuzz
just joking a little ;)

gixajo
07-08-2023, 02:53 PM
I'm not aware of Davidski's ideological bias. Can you tell more?

It's a thing of the past. Everyone has the right to a second chance.

So I'm not going to comment further on that.

rothaer
07-08-2023, 02:56 PM
Medieval-based Slav-focused super-mega-calculator so that the Slavs can fight for the title of the most Slavic individual in TA!!!



As a German you fight even in a hopeless situation but I admit that the participation of the gixajo clan is even more heroic. :)

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.3989% / 0.01398896
49.4 Celto-Germanic
44.2 Slavs&Balts
6.4 Iberian

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.6570% / 0.01656979
71.0 Celto-Germanic
29.0 Slavs&Balts

gixajo
07-08-2023, 02:59 PM
I find it surprising that a lot of Swedes, Britons, Dutch, Germans and others score much closer to Ukraine than Lithuania. Even if the latter one is geographically closer to them.

The G25 is a tool that can help us read reality, but it is not reality nor does it necessarily have to show it exactly.

I can think of ways that could explain that, but I'm not very expert in the History of that area.

So...:shrug:

Eurafricanid
07-08-2023, 03:02 PM
Target: Jgab602-EU
Distance: 1.7293% / 0.01729299
50.1 Iberian
28.1 Italian
9.4 Balkans
8.6 Celto-Germanic
3.8 Levant

Target: Jgab602-EU
Distance: 1.7389% / 0.01738909 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.6 Iberian
39.4 Italian
7.0 Celto-Germanic
6.0 Balkans

I'm not a Slav??? :eek: there's something wrong with the calculator for sure! :mad:

Russki
07-08-2023, 03:05 PM
I don't know why ugochaves is trying hard to be some kind of Proto-Slav.

His closest 3 modern populations are Belarusians, Ukrainians and Estonians.

I deliberately excluded Russian averages, and used Ukrainian and Lithuanian national averages that don't exist on the official datasheet.



Ukrainian,0.13028,0.12385233,0.067803167,0.0573594 17,0.037801792,0.021509417,0.0093513333,0.011211,-0.0029740833,-0.022187208,-0.000493875,-0.007449625,0.015336792,0.023762833,-0.0114005,-0.0026849583,0.0017819583,-0.00030616667,0.003571875,-0.0000051666667,-0.0058855,-0.0046112917,0.00619325,-0.0049302917,0.000414125
Lithuanian,0.13636,0.1289724,0.0843244,0.0804916,0 .0464084,0.0303992,0.0098706,0.0160608,0.0009408,-0.0279188,-0.0058784,-0.0107606,0.0233098,0.0324238,-0.0103962,-0.0003182,-0.0029204,-0.0017738,0.001106,0.002126,-0.0025956,-0.0033386,0.0103526,-0.0083384,-0.0001196



https://sun9-27.userapi.com/impg/M5rgRtw6zgced_267uJiQMalDr3rv__Menb0oA/x8bXrsKYIco.jpg?size=450x550&quality=95&sign=a4e2b31a22a1f5d98ebc2ea734999a25&type=album




And these are mine, I just received non-simulated coords.


https://sun9-1.userapi.com/impg/RXpLe9dYQjlj_wsnTfnb0ccvNaxBeeUtn8HLVA/V0a5Pr3Ii8M.jpg?size=420x540&quality=95&sign=911fbd2790171440450858ccdbbffec0&type=album

rothaer
07-08-2023, 03:06 PM
Target: Kiel_scaled
Distance: 1.5452% / 0.01545202
53.6 Celto-Germanic
22.8 Slavs&Balts
17.0 Italian
6.6 Levant

A pseudo kosher destillate. :)

cakmir7y
07-08-2023, 03:09 PM
Target: Mirek_scaled
Distance: 1.9802% / 0.01980241
57.6 Slavs&Balts
20.8 Celto-Germanic
11.0 Iberian
10.0 Balkans
0.6 Siberian

Distance to: Mirek_scaled
0.03891650 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
0.04389800 Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA
0.04767799 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
0.05154373 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
0.07163650 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
0.07327453 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.08168008 Iberian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga
0.10972669 Balkans:MKD_BA
0.11163245 Balkans:ALB_MA
0.11529858 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.13716826 Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz
0.16280748 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
0.21211927 Levant:Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
0.24268924 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman
0.27807073 South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA
0.56633237 Siberian:RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven

noricum
07-08-2023, 03:09 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.3268% / 0.02326833
48.8 Slavs&Balts
23.8 Celto-Germanic
15.6 Balkans
11.8 Iberian

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.04752615 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
0.04882498 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
0.04937368 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
0.05036160 Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA
0.06256837 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.07693487 Iberian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga
0.08711793 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
0.09735072 Balkans:MKD_BA
0.09892595 Balkans:ALB_MA
0.10484109 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.12390232 Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz
0.15297238 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
0.20163257 Levant:Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
0.24844810 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman
0.27560373 South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA
0.57812263 Siberian:RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven

ugochaves
07-08-2023, 03:10 PM
And now that I am talking about this subject, I will say that a former member (I think Belarusian?) Leto who always cursed about the G25 and who personally seemed like a real asshole to me, was quite right that some Gedmatch calculators worked in a more honest way when using as coordinates to model people than the G25.

That is, the G25 is better as a tool,works more afficiently but it could be less honest than (some) Gedmatch calculators.

It's like mobile phones and wire telegraphy. The second is impractical but its operation is so simple that any manipulation is more evident.:eek:
Leto is Russian, but he considered himself closer to Europe, so he sometimes called his father Belarusian :D I noticed that some Gedmatch calculators see my Ukrainian roots well. G25 does not see them at all. You're probably right.

gixajo
07-08-2023, 03:10 PM
And these are mine, I just received non-simulated coords.


g]

Without the need for you to publish your real coordinates, can I know how far it is to your old simulated coordinates and to ugochaves?

rothaer
07-08-2023, 03:13 PM
[Far_away:
Target: SLAVIC POWER
Distance: 2.2620% / 0.02262033
49.6 Balkans
43.6 Slavs&Balts
6.8 Byzantines]

Your Slavic Power looks a litle modest :p

Let's say it's Far_away. :p

In this calculator even I gain some momentum:

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.3989% / 0.01398896
49.4 Celto-Germanic
44.2 Slavs&Balts
6.4 Iberian

ugochaves
07-08-2023, 03:18 PM
And these are mine, I just received non-simulated coords.


https://i.imgur.com/wYxDhrp.png
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gixajo
07-08-2023, 03:31 PM
Leto is Russian, but he considered himself closer to Europe, so he sometimes called his father Belarusian :D I noticed that some Gedmatch calculators see my Ukrainian roots well. G25 does not see them at all. You're probably right.

In reality, all this of the coordinates and the PCAs it´s all about comparison, and what we turn out to be will depend on who or what we compare ourselves to. PCAs with G25 are as fine as any other.

Compare positions given by some coordinates so we define something by its position in relation to the position of others.

But these admixture tools like vahaduo and similars modeling through algorithms generally related to "game theory", it´s a different thing...

I don't know, but I don't see that the consistency between the plots of the references in PCAs and the results in these "admixture tools" is so clear.

I may be wrong, but neither here nor in other forums have they managed to clarify my doubts clearly.

They spend a lot of words and they all show they know a lot of theory, but those words and that theory clarify little about what I ask but clarify a lot about what that person studied in his universitary times.;)

"Fantastic, you dominate the topic, but you have not answered me."

(All this in other forums, in this one it's been a while since I've seen anyone who really knows what he's talking about in that regard.)

Voskos
07-08-2023, 03:33 PM
On G25 if you're half Lebanese - half German, you're going to score 60 percent Ashkenazi + 20 percent Levant + 20 percent Nordic IA. It should not be interpreted literally.

gixajo
07-08-2023, 03:34 PM
I shut up now, I look like a grandfather boring everybody telling absurd stories.:picard1:

ugochaves
07-08-2023, 03:45 PM
In reality, all this of the coordinates and the PCAs it´s all about comparison, and what we turn out to be will depend on who or what we compare ourselves to. PCAs with G25 are as fine as any other.

Compare positions given by some coordinates so we define something by its position in relation to the position of others.

But these admixture tools like vahaduo and similars modeling through algorithms generally related to "game theory", it´s a different thing...

I don't know, but I don't see that the consistency between the plots of the references in PCAs and the results in these "admixture tools" is so clear.

I may be wrong, but neither here nor in other forums have they managed to clarify my doubts clearly.

They spend a lot of words and they all show they know a lot of theory, but those words and that theory clarify little about what I ask but clarify a lot about what that person studied in his universitary times.;)

"Fantastic, you dominate the topic, but you have not answered me."

(All this in other forums, in this one it's been a while since I've seen anyone who really knows what he's talking about in that regard.)
These are the average values of the MDLP27 calculator, in my opinion they can't be found anywhere else. The original file, from where I downloaded it 5 years ago, has been broken for a long time. You can also try yourself by finding out your data in this calculator. But it is ideal for Eastern Slavs. Maybe someone will come in handy. This can also be used in Vahaduo.

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25,PC26,PC27
Belarusian_Gomel,0.06,0.85,52.87,3.04,0.35,0.12,0. 00,10.42,0.21,0.40,0.14,0.03,0.00,0.78,5.24,0.40,0 .20,0.14,0.21,11.29,0.42,1.41,0.44,1.56,0.21,9.14, 0.06
Belarusian_Minsk,0.01,1.06,54.24,2.70,0.00,0.00,0. 03,10.31,0.08,0.31,0.00,0.19,0.18,0.78,3.91,0.05,0 .13,0.03,0.00,12.46,0.36,0.99,0.25,1.12,0.32,10.46 ,0.03
Belarusian_Mogilyov,0.24,1.07,53.70,2.83,0.43,0.10 ,0.02,11.04,0.07,0.19,0.05,0.15,0.00,1.23,4.44,0.3 2,0.00,0.14,0.36,11.25,0.22,0.77,0.11,0.99,0.19,9. 85,0.26
Belarusian_Vitebsk,0.01,0.41,55.13,4.00,0.57,0.00, 0.00,9.36,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.42,0.01,0.01,5.20,0.51, 0.00,0.00,0.19,12.17,0.02,1.11,0.04,0.39,0.45,9.40 ,0.33
Belarusian_West,0.22,0.91,51.62,3.20,0.13,0.00,0.0 8,8.57,0.04,0.06,0.02,0.09,0.07,0.70,4.90,0.49,0.2 9,0.07,0.58,15.75,0.22,1.18,0.00,1.89,0.46,8.35,0. 13
Bulgarian,0.07,0.72,30.09,1.47,0.35,0.24,0.06,24.2 0,0.19,0.23,0.04,0.26,0.08,1.85,9.26,0.74,0.11,0.0 2,0.19,19.80,0.39,4.01,0.40,1.22,0.24,3.77,0.00
Chuvash_Anatri,0.05,0.45,35.48,17.86,0.34,8.81,1.3 3,7.36,2.92,0.03,0.01,0.05,0.08,0.43,5.94,0.64,0.1 5,0.13,1.12,5.40,0.28,1.11,0.73,1.98,0.00,7.31,0.0 5
Chuvash_Viryal,0.31,1.89,32.87,18.72,0.16,10.89,0. 45,6.47,3.53,0.00,0.00,0.05,0.00,0.81,6.35,0.00,0. 05,0.00,0.43,4.40,1.19,0.35,0.78,2.37,0.33,7.62,0. 00
Croatian,0.23,0.42,38.64,1.14,0.45,0.14,0.00,19.37 ,0.24,0.12,0.07,0.15,0.00,1.01,7.35,0.35,0.00,0.04 ,0.32,20.41,0.28,2.88,0.19,1.24,0.37,4.52,0.07
English,0.11,0.11,33.00,2.50,0.11,0.12,0.12,8.40,0 .11,0.11,0.11,0.11,0.11,1.00,9.80,0.11,0.11,0.11,0 .11,33.50,0.11,0.70,0.11,1.60,0.11,7.50,0.11
Erzya,0.21,0.69,47.20,7.45,0.24,3.02,0.53,8.12,0.4 1,0.45,0.09,0.11,0.34,0.53,6.09,0.02,0.07,0.04,0.0 4,10.33,1.16,0.96,0.99,0.95,0.14,9.74,0.10
Estonian,0.20,1.50,52.91,0.84,0.27,0.57,0.00,1.33, 0.05,0.46,0.00,0.17,0.34,0.83,1.88,1.21,0.13,0.08, 0.23,7.56,0.23,1.77,0.41,0.85,0.27,25.91,0.00
Finnish_Inkeri,0.20,0.75,34.30,4.36,0.00,0.20,0.80 ,1.80,0.30,0.20,0.08,0.46,0.00,0.09,1.20,0.20,0.19 ,0.00,0.10,5.35,0.35,1.30,0.71,0.95,0.76,45.35,0.0 0
Finnish_North_East,0.00,0.90,29.25,3.65,0.10,1.22, 0.00,3.58,0.15,0.00,0.00,0.10,0.00,0.20,2.10,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.45,3.90,0.50,1.15,0.85,0.30,0.20,51.40 ,0.00
Finnish_Savo_South,0.05,0.35,34.50,4.52,0.62,1.62, 0.00,0.38,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.49,1.49,0.40, 0.07,0.00,0.82,6.07,0.21,0.49,0.71,1.43,0.22,44.59 ,0.00
Finnish_South_West,0.05,0.30,31.80,4.23,0.19,0.24, 0.30,2.73,0.17,0.15,0.10,0.31,0.00,0.51,4.36,0.31, 0.10,0.10,0.43,10.12,0.10,0.56,0.66,0.96,0.25,40.9 7,0.00
French,0.30,0.20,29.30,1.80,0.10,0.00,0.00,12.50,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.10,0.00,1.60,10.50,0.10,0.10,0.00, 0.20,35.60,0.00,1.50,0.00,1.00,0.00,5.10,0.00
German,0.09,0.47,31.14,1.76,0.19,0.00,0.00,11.74,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.14,0.00,1.27,10.72,0.28,0.21,0.11, 0.57,29.48,0.07,1.40,0.12,1.53,0.08,8.63,0.00
Greek,0.00,0.30,22.90,1.00,0.50,0.00,0.00,29.74,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.10,0.00,1.80,11.00,0.90,0.00,0.00,0 .00,20.80,0.00,7.22,0.29,1.70,0.25,1.50,0.00
Greek_Tsalka,0.17,1.10,5.36,0.89,0.53,0.01,0.00,42 .19,0.00,0.03,0.00,0.35,0.00,1.25,26.37,0.51,0.04, 0.01,0.31,8.17,0.11,9.69,0.05,2.36,0.39,0.00,0.11
Irish_Scottish,0.20,0.10,33.50,1.40,0.10,0.10,0.10 ,5.05,0.10,0.10,0.10,0.15,0.10,0.10,11.15,0.30,0.1 0,0.10,0.10,36.35,0.10,0.20,0.10,1.80,0.10,8.30,0. 10
Karelian,0.00,0.49,37.15,4.31,0.26,2.36,0.00,2.40, 0.01,0.00,0.30,0.00,0.14,0.28,2.33,0.26,0.23,0.00, 0.08,8.00,1.01,0.45,1.06,1.19,0.63,37.03,0.03
Komi_Zyryan_SW,0.00,0.91,39.85,15.98,0.32,7.28,1.3 4,3.35,0.25,0.42,0.00,0.07,0.00,1.03,5.41,0.06,0.0 0,0.04,0.52,7.05,0.75,0.74,1.13,1.49,0.02,11.74,0. 24
Komi_Izhma,0.30,1.01,39.25,12.19,0.00,5.90,0.71,3. 90,1.52,0.00,0.00,0.25,0.05,0.45,3.94,0.00,0.30,0. 01,1.02,6.90,0.03,0.38,1.10,0.66,0.28,19.90,0.00
Latgalian,0.01,0.26,63.45,2.50,0.60,0.00,0.00,6.65 ,0.00,0.00,0.03,0.31,0.25,0.17,2.79,0.19,0.42,0.00 ,0.13,6.55,0.01,0.26,0.16,1.60,0.04,13.69,0.00
Lithuanian,0.00,1.34,58.80,3.85,0.03,0.00,0.00,6.4 4,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.00,0.50,2.26,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.87,11.79,0.00,0.69,0.00,1.57,0.11,11.58,0.00
Moksha,0.00,0.97,45.37,6.10,0.47,2.59,0.44,9.19,0. 92,0.12,0.33,0.40,0.03,0.38,7.14,0.54,0.12,0.22,0. 50,9.70,0.53,0.77,1.52,2.18,0.16,9.32,0.00
Moldavian,0.48,1.04,36.88,2.78,0.15,0.28,0.11,17.3 8,0.37,0.69,0.48,0.54,0.00,0.98,7.30,1.00,0.32,0.1 6,0.54,17.76,0.07,2.23,0.38,1.09,0.54,5.82,0.63
Norwegian,0.06,0.19,35.63,2.46,0.40,0.00,0.00,4.71 ,0.00,0.11,0.13,0.32,0.13,0.76,9.22,0.00,0.00,0.04 ,0.12,30.67,0.13,0.07,0.35,2.40,0.35,11.58,0.17
Polish,0.23,0.43,51.03,2.58,0.22,0.06,0.01,10.53,0 .15,0.12,0.09,0.18,0.26,0.45,4.83,0.19,0.05,0.18,0 .57,16.29,0.27,1.16,0.10,1.49,0.23,8.29,0.01
Romanian,0.00,3.00,28.20,1.35,0.35,0.30,0.00,26.00 ,0.25,0.25,0.00,0.30,0.10,2.00,9.80,0.90,0.10,0.00 ,0.20,17.10,0.40,4.10,0.40,1.30,0.30,3.30,0.00
Russian_Andreapol,0.00,0.45,54.03,3.78,0.17,0.34,0 .00,9.69,0.12,0.67,0.25,0.59,0.00,1.15,4.06,0.18,0 .25,0.01,0.45,10.76,0.32,0.89,0.09,1.24,0.20,10.24 ,0.07
Russian_Arzamas,0.25,1.12,50.18,3.78,0.08,0.92,0.3 2,8.52,0.01,0.12,0.17,0.22,0.08,0.62,6.27,0.07,0.0 0,0.21,0.11,10.4,0.47,1.06,0.99,1.92,0.31,11.32,0. 24
Russian_Baykal,0.17,0.42,42.26,6.86,0.48,5.91,1.72 ,7.32,0.20,0.33,0.00,0.02,0.00,0.85,5.08,0.77,0.18 ,0.01,0.82,9.36,0.58,0.52,1.22,1.94,0.17,12.82,0.0 0
Russian_Bryansk,0.15,0.89,50.39,3.19,0.45,0.13,0.2 4,10.94,0.36,0.03,0.12,0.23,0.12,0.99,5.08,0.00,0. 06,0.20,0.24,12.51,0.22,1.17,0.40,1.18,0.29,10.46, 0.00
Russian_Don_Cossack,0.24,0.62,48.17,2.15,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,13.83,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.01,6.44,0.0 7,0.18,0.00,0.00,13.20,0.81,1.93,0.06,2.48,0.44,9. 37,0.00
Russian_Ivanovo,0.08,0.58,50.14,4.46,0.17,0.73,0.0 1,8.59,0.11,0.13,0.39,0.29,0.00,1.30,4.72,0.50,0.0 0,0.30,0.03,10.13,1.29,0.79,0.95,2.25,0.55,11.57,0 .00
Russian_Kargopol_HGDP,0.09,0.95,47.88,6.64,0.22,2. 47,0.46,6.37,0.51,0.09,0.13,0.15,0.11,0.66,3.09,0. 42,0.18,0.01,0.38,8.69,0.32,0.93,0.62,1.21,0.27,17 .15,0.01
Russian_Kuban,0.06,0.62,51.33,3.00,0.48,1.58,0.00, 12.33,0.00,0.16,0.19,0.12,0.12,0.36,4.51,0.32,0.14 ,0.00,0.24,12.23,0.26,1.79,0.20,1.75,0.13,8.09,0.0 0
Russian_Kursk_Oryol,0.28,1.07,51.36,2.56,0.27,0.29 ,0.10,10.45,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.24,0.00,0.10,3.86,1.1 2,0.09,0.25,0.27,12.58,0.87,1.45,0.18,1.22,0.55,10 .89,0.00
Russian_Lipetsk,0.30,1.04,48.06,2.68,0.01,0.68,0.1 4,9.46,1.02,0.00,0.25,0.18,0.00,0.53,5.61,0.00,0.0 7,0.00,0.81,14.25,0.38,2.34,0.00,1.55,0.08,10.53,0 .00
Russian_Meshtchyora,0.00,1.80,49.26,4.91,0.29,0.68 ,0.62,8.74,0.20,0.18,0.08,0.06,0.18,0.66,4.99,0.52 ,0.12,0.11,0.34,11.68,0.65,1.28,0.31,1.35,0.38,10. 59,0.03
Russian_Mezen_Pinega,0.04,0.71,41.76,9.54,0.15,3.5 8,1.19,5.16,0.06,0.11,0.03,0.06,0.10,0.20,3.05,0.4 5,0.04,0.01,0.15,6.10,0.45,1.04,0.96,1.58,0.28,23. 14,0.03
Russian_Moscow,0.18,0.44,50.28,4.56,0.46,0.51,0.29 ,9.96,0.32,0.08,0.01,0.03,0.26,1.02,5.09,0.20,0.15 ,0.28,0.23,11.36,0.29,1.47,0.01,1.12,0.28,11.13,0. 00
Russian_Murom,0.33,0.35,49.05,4.28,0.49,0.56,0.32, 10.00,0.23,0.00,0.17,0.07,0.08,0.10,5.10,0.30,0.00 ,0.47,0.69,13.52,0.93,0.80,0.38,1.25,0.20,10.21,0. 16
Russian_North_Dvina,0.19,0.51,41.89,8.77,0.30,2.76 ,0.33,4.76,0.47,0.25,0.05,0.16,0.02,0.74,2.95,0.14 ,0.07,0.12,0.39,7.92,0.44,0.57,0.76,2.15,0.15,23.1 1,0.04
Russian_Novgorod,0.09,0.88,50.59,4.93,0.51,0.03,0. 00,8.96,0.00,0.00,0.09,0.64,0.00,0.26,4.46,0.00,0. 03,0.16,0.17,10.42,0.36,0.90,0.64,0.60,0.83,14.50, 0.00
Russian_Pskov,0.01,1.07,55.39,3.17,0.30,0.32,0.00, 8.63,0.21,0.04,0.24,0.16,0.14,0.93,2.68,0.55,0.22, 0.01,0.25,10.90,0.30,1.08,0.22,1.26,0.25,11.71,0.0 0
Russian_Ryazan,0.00,0.78,48.76,3.34,0.26,0.60,0.01 ,10.28,0.38,0.16,0.29,0.09,0.00,0.75,4.17,0.42,0.0 0,0.19,0.24,13.78,0.52,0.58,0.53,1.80,0.33,11.68,0 .07
Russian_Saratov,0.13,0.97,48.79,4.33,0.56,0.99,0.1 5,9.87,0.15,0.00,0.02,0.17,0.19,0.91,5.22,0.12,0.1 9,0.00,1.06,12.22,0.06,1.39,0.45,0.95,0.25,10.81,0 .07
Russian_Siberia,0.07,0.93,45.18,6.97,0.57,2.75,0.1 9,6.81,0.63,0.08,0.10,0.07,0.20,0.53,4.55,0.22,0.1 8,0.11,0.93,11.37,0.37,1.58,0.69,1.46,0.29,13.17,0 .00
Russian_Smolensk,0.00,0.43,54.29,3.76,0.00,0.25,0. 01,8.41,0.13,0.32,0.39,0.46,0.00,0.43,4.11,0.75,0. 04,0.00,0.33,11.62,0.72,1.16,0.56,1.85,0.33,9.63,0 .10
Russian_Solvychegodsk,0.02,0.36,45.68,6.76,0.15,2. 59,0.57,6.69,0.14,0.60,0.08,0.21,0.01,0.54,4.63,0. 55,0.06,0.04,0.24,9.83,0.52,1.11,0.84,1.92,0.25,15 .60,0.04
Russian_Tambov,0.00,1.34,47.55,3.69,0.49,0.72,0.23 ,10.35,0.21,0.35,0.16,0.14,0.20,1.05,4.47,0.23,0.0 1,0.07,0.39,12.97,0.45,1.52,0.64,1.91,0.12,10.69,0 .05
Russian_Tatarstan_Arsk,0.14,0.54,45.98,5.62,0.28,1 .99,0.23,8.84,0.62,0.52,0.11,0.20,0.10,0.71,5.10,0 .38,0.22,0.02,0.27,10.64,0.53,1.30,0.63,1.48,0.34, 13.12,0.08
Russian_Tver,0.15,0.67,50.34,3.83,0.34,1.08,0.78,9 .53,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.16,0.04,1.13,4.93,0.62,0.21,0 .00,0.41,12.13,0.39,0.67,0.41,1.81,0.21,10.00,0.01
Russian_Uglich,0.04,0.61,48.62,4.18,0.23,1.68,0.01 ,7.27,0.31,0.31,0.00,0.34,0.00,0.61,4.43,0.54,0.23 ,0.00,1.18,12.28,0.66,1.03,0.12,1.75,0.19,13.43,0. 00
Russian_Unzha,0.06,0.73,48.76,6.35,0.21,2.24,0.37, 7.15,0.30,0.28,0.14,0.18,0.07,0.79,3.81,0.46,0.14, 0.03,0.32,9.74,0.44,0.97,0.62,1.56,0.24,14.04,0.03
Russian_Ustyuzhna,0.00,0.81,48.50,4.03,0.33,1.48,0 .01,7.84,0.11,0.05,0.00,0.31,0.00,0.01,2.37,1.50,0 .00,0.01,0.16,9.43,1.05,2.28,0.14,2.57,0.33,16.76, 0.00
Russian_Ural_East,0.21,0.91,44.42,8.11,0.06,3.79,0 .25,7.66,0.21,0.68,0.21,0.16,0.00,0.31,4.04,0.01,0 .28,0.08,0.24,8.96,0.40,0.54,1.53,1.61,0.32,15.04, 0.00
Russian_Ural_West,0.23,0.92,43.05,9.49,0.28,3.64,0 .26,6.31,0.71,0.28,0.09,0.20,0.05,0.59,4.75,0.13,0 .24,0.12,0.26,9.59,0.28,0.58,1.30,2.17,0.18,14.32, 0.01
Russian_Voronezh,0.11,0.63,49.40,4.78,0.42,0.20,0. 82,9.98,0.19,0.00,0.00,0.31,0.03,0.96,5.25,0.77,0. 00,0.21,0.00,12.64,0.87,1.56,0.30,0.24,0.00,10.36, 0.00
Russian_Vyatka,0.25,0.57,46.36,7.94,0.20,3.10,0.29 ,7.27,0.43,0.10,0.14,0.15,0.12,1.28,4.08,0.29,0.11 ,0.08,0.30,8.38,0.74,0.63,0.75,1.88,0.27,14.27,0.0 0
Russian_Vyatka_NE,1.44,0.56,41.37,11.46,0.05,4.67, 0.35,6.81,0.85,0.23,0.01,0.00,0.01,0.45,3.75,0.17, 0.00,0.08,0.41,8.02,0.03,0.70,2.38,2.49,0.03,13.73 ,0.00
Saami,0.12,0.69,32.29,10.90,0.13,8.30,0.70,2.79,0. 70,0.26,0.05,0.23,0.02,0.39,2.81,0.14,0.09,0.03,0. 35,4.98,0.68,0.96,1.30,1.12,0.38,29.52,0.07
Serbian,0.00,0.00,32.60,1.70,0.10,0.00,0.00,25.25, 0.07,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.00,8.60,0.90,0.00,0.00, 0.00,20.50,0.00,4.52,0.25,0.76,0.00,3.75,0.00
Sicilian,0.17,0.32,11.58,0.09,0.08,0.00,0.00,31.60 ,0.12,0.33,0.38,0.27,0.25,5.01,12.43,2.66,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,22.82,0.17,9.48,0.03,1.52,0.43,0.26,0.00
Slovak,0.15,0.95,42.20,2.50,0.50,0.00,0.00,13.80,0 .00,0.20,0.05,0.10,0.05,1.20,5.80,0.50,0.10,0.10,0 .20,19.00,0.40,2.50,0.30,1.30,0.10,8.00,0.00
Spanish_North,0.09,0.44,20.30,0.93,0.16,0.11,0.10, 14.81,0.00,0.26,0.03,0.09,0.25,6.33,7.19,1.67,0.21 ,0.00,0.32,39.11,0.14,1.88,0.44,0.95,0.36,2.66,1.1 5
Swedish,0.07,0.37,36.84,2.92,0.34,0.24,0.10,5.67,0 .03,0.11,0.10,0.28,0.11,0.74,8.13,0.16,0.04,0.06,0 .21,25.80,0.19,0.47,0.37,2.07,0.32,14.16,0.12
Tatar_Kazan_Apastovskiy,0.15,1.32,32.06,8.51,0.05, 7.46,1.80,10.30,4.17,0.40,0.04,0.01,0.07,0.64,7.47 ,0.27,0.06,0.00,0.63,9.12,0.75,2.01,0.63,1.88,0.43 ,9.65,0.12
Tatar_Kazan_Kaybitskiy,0.00,1.32,32.09,10.43,0.21, 7.21,2.51,9.82,2.69,0.00,0.42,0.25,0.21,0.29,8.30, 0.00,0.16,0.07,0.90,9.38,0.50,1.74,1.01,1.63,0.62, 8.20,0.04
Tatar_Kazan_Tarhanovskiy,0.09,0.85,35.74,8.90,0.28 ,7.06,1.93,9.58,3.68,0.87,0.00,0.21,0.01,0.98,8.58 ,0.21,0.30,0.08,0.26,7.87,1.12,1.98,1.16,0.81,0.48 ,6.97,0.00
Tatar_Kazan_Zelenodolskiy,0.32,0.11,33.52,11.69,0. 47,8.49,3.11,10.41,2.86,0.16,0.00,0.20,0.00,0.65,9 .02,0.86,0.00,0.36,0.52,6.58,0.22,1.59,0.41,1.13,0 .29,7.03,0.00
Tatar_Lithuanian,0.49,0.72,30.40,3.42,0.30,8.62,3. 62,10.43,7.98,1.59,0.00,0.15,0.00,2.03,9.20,0.17,0 .00,0.00,0.22,9.63,1.04,1.06,0.21,1.84,0.34,6.47,0 .02
Tatar_Mishar_Bashkiria,0.06,1.13,35.39,8.00,0.09,7 .35,0.91,10.72,3.96,0.59,0.00,0.10,0.38,0.52,8.30, 0.31,0.12,0.17,0.50,8.55,1.35,1.02,0.31,1.45,0.07, 8.70,0.00
Tatar_Mishar_Drozzhanovskiy,0.74,0.86,37.03,8.28,0 .03,5.71,2.27,9.77,2.51,0.44,0.15,0.05,0.01,0.51,7 .85,0.17,0.17,0.00,0.00,8.18,0.51,1.29,0.88,1.92,0 .74,9.86,0.07
Tatar_Mishar_Nizhniy,0.39,0.07,35.81,7.40,0.21,6.1 2,2.85,9.37,3.51,0.23,0.00,0.20,0.45,0.88,8.35,0.4 0,0.07,0.00,0.63,10.72,0.60,0.95,0.81,2.08,0.16,7. 77,0.00
Tatar_Siberian,0.00,1.09,17.86,13.96,0.79,20.26,4. 16,5.05,12.68,1.54,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.31,11.71,0.00, 0.51,0.36,1.29,1.22,0.11,1.64,0.86,1.21,0.49,2.90, 0.00
Udmurt,0.12,1.58,35.23,23.58,0.00,5.11,0.79,1.22,1 .23,0.00,0.00,0.31,0.17,0.00,9.58,0.00,0.04,0.29,1 .20,8.31,0.00,1.21,2.58,1.56,0.00,5.89,0.01
Ukrainian_Carpaty,0.01,0.00,40.48,2.69,0.33,0.00,1 .40,18.82,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.64,0.00,1.43,5.54,0.25, 0.00,0.00,0.26,19.48,0.00,2.30,0.23,1.08,0.07,4.99 ,0.00
Ukrainian_Chernigov,0.48,0.45,50.49,2.53,0.86,0.28 ,0.24,10.93,0.04,0.21,0.19,0.03,0.00,0.65,4.23,0.4 4,0.22,0.02,0.26,14.40,0.13,1.52,0.00,1.60,0.42,9. 37,0.02
Ukrainian_Lvov,0.00,0.43,45.55,2.99,0.50,0.02,0.00 ,13.61,0.42,0.38,0.00,0.32,0.22,1.45,5.20,0.00,0.2 2,0.04,0.36,15.91,0.75,1.79,0.07,2.11,0.39,7.30,0. 00
Ukrainian_Poltava,0.15,0.30,49.50,2.21,0.13,0.53,0 .43,11.07,0.14,0.37,0.01,0.30,0.15,0.80,4.34,0.25, 0.00,0.12,0.23,14.83,0.32,2.27,0.14,1.63,0.67,9.10 ,0.00
Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina,0.55,0.32,51.21,2.52,0 .58,0.44,0.00,11.95,0.12,0.28,0.00,0.25,0.19,0.23, 4.24,0.07,0.07,0.00,0.28,14.20,0.08,1.81,0.19,1.86 ,0.26,8.29,0.00
Ukrainian_Vinnitsa,0.38,0.12,48.37,2.79,0.10,0.26, 0.26,12.44,0.00,0.41,0.00,0.02,0.41,0.09,5.35,0.43 ,0.12,0.00,0.73,15.37,0.03,2.67,0.26,2.28,0.01,7.1 6,0.01
Vepsa,0.52,0.09,41.30,6.53,0.28,2.30,1.33,4.94,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.51,0.00,0.48,3.26,0.17,0.00,0.00,0.2 5,5.36,0.30,0.68,0.49,1.81,0.36,29.08,0.02

ugochaves
07-08-2023, 03:48 PM
I shut up now, I look like a grandfather boring everybody telling absurd stories.:picard1:
Norm, I've been on this forum for the second day, my messages here are like a year from other users. It's time to go to the Crimea, swim in the sea and forget about virtual life.

Lemminkäinen
07-08-2023, 03:57 PM
Can you try this one with modern references if it works well for your origins?


Baltics,0.1351696,0.1252487,0.0841702,0.0812399,0. 0437402,0.0310126,0.010828,0.0158916,-0.003142,-0.0316931,-0.003967,-0.0118045,0.0215508,0.0293188,-0.0113644,0.0003735,0.003076,-0.0004276,0.0028895,0.0028811,-0.0041329,-0.0054201,0.0084179,-0.0077303,0.0001022
Northern_Slavs:A,0.1275244,0.1262615,0.0585965,0.0 444641,0.0345502,0.0165661,0.0082079,0.0100555,-0.0009366,-0.0158974,-0.0026752,-0.0071311,0.0125518,0.0201445,-0.0103244,-0.0017842,0.0027125,-0.0003058,0.0031778,-0.0001871,-0.0042282,-0.0045802,0.0054016,-0.0030968,0.0005734
Northern_Slavs:B,0.128999,0.0995464,0.079033,0.068 7034,0.030017,0.0222787,0.0104035,0.013037,-0.0019673,-0.0272847,0.002174,-0.010053,0.0184949,0.0186775,-0.0110833,-0.0024305,0.0019456,-0.0016823,0.0002504,0.0022998,-0.0007596,-0.0029287,0.0033079,-0.0033539,0.0004212
Finnish,0.129749,0.086267,0.090345,0.078094,0.0302 89,0.022728,0.008918,0.014454,0.003948,-0.02498,0.00456,-0.006598,0.013643,0.005446,0.001208,0.00113,-0.004139,-0.000072,-0.000394,0.003812,0.008411,-0.000097,0.001627,0.007286,0.003006
South_Slavs:East,0.124036,0.136166,0.027597,0.0038 76,0.025086,0.002271,0.0056,0.004346,-0.000597,0.005034,-0.002116,-0.000333,0.000688,0.009601,-0.01329,-0.00217,0.006106,0.000228,0.003603,-0.00354,-0.007362,-0.001167,0.003555,-0.001795,-0.000654
South_Slavs:South,0.127584,0.136193,0.04155,0.0178 42,0.031529,0.007314,0.004742,0.005916,-0.001155,0.000216,-0.0011,-0.001576,0.002763,0.013063,-0.012783,0.001039,0.006478,-0.000445,0.005406,-0.000232,-0.006083,-0.001305,0.005969,0.00108,-0.000949
Western_Slavs,0.131085,0.131749,0.065417,0.053332, 0.042838,0.020464,0.008268,0.0096,-0.000395,-0.014076,-0.002516,-0.005201,0.010524,0.014681,-0.005711,0.002696,0.005578,-0.001544,0.004683,0.000602,-0.002871,-0.003225,0.006117,-0.000483,0.000203
Germanic,0.129261,0.13641,0.059794,0.042199,0.0398 51,0.016851,0.005013,0.006759,0.004172,0.000738,-0.004566,0.002789,-0.006879,-0.003561,0.012279,0.003241,-0.005588,0.001853,0.003353,0.001658,0.003039,0.002 211,0.000983,0.009683,-0.000105



Target: maurim1_scaled
Distance: 1.3462% / 0.01346230
62.2 Finnish
18.6 Germanic
15.2 Baltics
4.0 Northern_Slavs

Distance to: maurim1_scaled
0.02452708 Finnish
0.02795790 Northern_Slavs:B
0.04707888 Western_Slavs
0.04776417 Baltics
0.05285965 Northern_Slavs:A
0.06434315 Germanic
0.08645021 South_Slavs:South
0.10565095 South_Slavs:East

Danjojo
07-08-2023, 07:17 PM
Target: Danjojo
Distance: 0.5950% / 0.00594981
43.0 Slavs&Balts
36.2 Celto-Germanic
14.6 Balkans
6.2 Iberian

Katarzyna
07-08-2023, 07:36 PM
Target: maurim1_scaled
Distance: 1.3462% / 0.01346230
62.2 Finnish
18.6 Germanic
15.2 Baltics
4.0 Northern_Slavs

Distance to: maurim1_scaled
0.02452708 Finnish
0.02795790 Northern_Slavs:B
0.04707888 Western_Slavs
0.04776417 Baltics
0.05285965 Northern_Slavs:A
0.06434315 Germanic
0.08645021 South_Slavs:South
0.10565095 South_Slavs:East



I wonder one thing: how comes most Finns (like Lemminkäinen) have a lot of Baltic DNA but us slavisized Balts don’t have much Finnish dna?


Target: Katarzyna_scaled(PolishBelarusianUkrainian)
Distance: 0.8232% / 0.00823221
54.4 Baltics
17.6 Western_Slavs
14.8 South_Slavs
12.0 Northern_Slavs
1.2 Finnish

Abriekman
07-08-2023, 07:41 PM
These are the average values of the MDLP27 calculator, in my opinion they can't be found anywhere else. The original file, from where I downloaded it 5 years ago, has been broken for a long time. You can also try yourself by finding out your data in this calculator. But it is ideal for Eastern Slavs. Maybe someone will come in handy. This can also be used in Vahaduo.

Target: Russian_Siberia
Distance: 98.0991% / 0.98099135 | R4P
51.8 Ukrainian_Poltava
27.8 Komi_Izhma
11.2 Udmurt
9.2 Estonian

Sibiryaks seem to be 40% Komi/Udmurt-like

ugochaves
07-08-2023, 07:44 PM
Target: Russian_Siberia
Distance: 98.0991% / 0.98099135 | R4P
51.8 Ukrainian_Poltava
27.8 Komi_Izhma
11.2 Udmurt
9.2 Estonian

Sibiryaks seem to be 40% Komi/Udmurt-like
Sample from neighboring settlements with Aboriginal people.

Katarzyna
07-08-2023, 07:45 PM
I shut up now, I look like a grandfather boring everybody telling absurd stories.:picard1:


No, no. It’s just the Slavic trolling program. Exactly what I predicted a few hours ago. I wonder,
there must be something in our DNA that makes us that stubborn hmmm xD

ugochaves
07-08-2023, 07:56 PM
Target: Russian_Siberia
Distance: 98.0991% / 0.98099135 | R4P
51.8 Ukrainian_Poltava
27.8 Komi_Izhma
11.2 Udmurt
9.2 Estonian

Sibiryaks seem to be 40% Komi/Udmurt-like


My results and my wife. Removed all Russians. Carpathians...- finally my Ukrainian blood is obvious

Target: ugo_wife
Distance: 254.4619% / 2.54461936
51.6 Belarusian_Vitebsk
21.0 Latgalian
10.4 Udmurt
8.2 Estonian
7.8 Greek_Tsalka
1.0 Irish_Scottish

Target: ugo
Distance: 217.0477% / 2.17047657
37.6 Polish
17.4 Latgalian
11.8 Ukrainian_Carpaty
8.0 Moksha
5.4 Norwegian
4.6 Udmurt
4.4 Karelian
3.8 Belarusian_Vitebsk
3.6 Finnish_South_West
3.4 Serbian

majevica
07-08-2023, 08:10 PM
Results with coords from DNAGenics (imputed raw data)

Target: majevica_imputed_scaled
Distance: 0.8583% / 0.00858337
41.2 Slavs&Balts
24.8 Byzantines
9.6 Iberian
8.0 Balkans
5.8 Italian
4.8 Celto-Germanic
4.0 Turkic
1.0 Siberian
0.8 South_Asian

Target: majevica_imputed_scaled
Distance: 0.9890% / 0.00989031 | R3P
47.6 Italian
44.4 Slavs&Balts
8.0 Turkic

ScandinavianCelt
07-08-2023, 08:13 PM
Target: ScandinavianCelt
Distance: 0.8368% / 0.00836782 | ADC: 0.25x RC

38.2 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
35.0 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
16.0 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
5.0 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman
4.0 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
1.8 South_Asian: PAK_Barikot_MA

Abriekman
07-08-2023, 08:27 PM
Sample from neighboring settlements with Aboriginal people.

I think it is the case for almost every Siberian Russian

Target: Parent (1/2 Polish/Ukrainian 1/4 Siberian Russian 1/4 Bulgarian)
Distance: 355.1409% / 3.55140881 | R4P
33.6 Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina
27.2 Greek
23.6 Ukrainian_Lvov
15.6 Komi_Izhma

15% Komi while being 25% Siberian Russian

I think it's not because Aboriginals, but maybe because Siberia was mainly settled by Northern Russians who are mostly Finno-Ugric by DNA(?)

ugochaves
07-08-2023, 08:36 PM
I think it is the case for almost every Siberian Russian

Target: Parent (1/2 Polish/Ukrainian 1/4 Siberian Russian 1/4 Bulgarian)
Distance: 355.1409% / 3.55140881 | R4P
33.6 Ukrainian_Slobozhanshtchina
27.2 Greek
23.6 Ukrainian_Lvov
15.6 Komi_Izhma

15% Komi while being 25% Siberian Russian

I think it's not because Aboriginals, but maybe because Siberia was mainly settled by Northern Russians who are mostly Finno-Ugric by DNA(?)
Siberia was inhabited mainly by Ukrainians. I think the calculator is imperfect, since my Western Russian wife took 10% of Udmurts. In g25, she has 0.4 Asia, which is less than Ukrainians. Also, the sample is not scientific, it was collected by an amateur from nowhere. I was just glad to see my Ukrainians. I am very proud of this descent from the Izyum regiment. I think it's worth believing g25 than this artisanal sample. Davidsky is a man who has always been objective, even though he is a Pole, I have never heard Russophobia from him. a real scientist.

Abriekman
07-08-2023, 08:41 PM
Siberia was inhabited mainly by Ukrainians. I think the calculator is imperfect, since my Western Russian wife took 10% of Udmurts. In g25, she has 0.4 Asia, which is less than Ukrainians. Also, the sample is not scientific, it was collected by an amateur from nowhere. I was just glad to see my Ukrainians. I am very proud of this descent from the Izyum regiment. I think it's worth believing g25 than this artisanal sample. Davidsky is a man who has always been objective, even though he is a Pole, I have never heard Russophobia from him. a real scientist.

G25 is not perfect as well, even if she was 1/8 Udmurt there can be situations and models, especially ancient and her Asian part would not be seen at all.

There were Ukrainians in Siberia, but I wouldn't say mainly. There was a ton of Russian peasants from Northern and Central parts of Russian Empire settling Siberia.

Nurzat
07-08-2023, 09:50 PM
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.3273% / 0.01327286
52.8 Slavs&Balts
36.2 Balkans
6.2 Celto-Germanic
2.4 Turkic
1.6 Byzantines
0.8 South_Asian


without Celto-Germanic:

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.3624% / 0.01362362
55.4 Slavs&Balts
39.2 Balkans
2.4 Turkic
2.2 Byzantines
0.8 South_Asian

cass
07-09-2023, 12:46 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 1.1902% / 0.01190218
57.6 Slavs&Balts
29.8 Celto-Germanic
6.4 Iberian
3.6 Balkans
2.6 Byzantines

Target: cass
Distance: 1.2815% / 0.01281464 | ADC: 0.25x
59.4 Slavs&Balts
37.8 Celto-Germanic
2.8 Iberian

Distance to: cass
0.03537428 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
0.03590896 Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA
0.04453064 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
0.05073232 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
0.06180021 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
0.07782068 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.08890717 Iberian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga
0.11769905 Balkans:MKD_BA
0.11967376 Balkans:ALB_MA
0.12288596 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.14255569 Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz
0.16985776 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
0.21878473 Levant:Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
0.24629423 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman
0.27463082 South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA
0.57040732 Siberian:RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven

bained
07-09-2023, 02:50 PM
Target: BaiNed_simulatedk36
Distance: 0.8491% / 0.00849052
41.0 Italian
29.4 Slavs&Balts
16.6 Balkans
8.6 Iberian
4.4 Byzantines

Distance to: BaiNed_simulatedk36
0.04737582 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.04966867 Balkans:MKD_BA
0.05055772 Balkans:ALB_MA
0.05110743 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.05896394 Iberian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga
0.07090351 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
0.07130148 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
0.07480415 Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz
0.07940772 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
0.08981288 Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA
0.10025739 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
0.12941909 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
0.15279902 Levant:Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
0.23841670 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman
0.26682227 South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA
0.57880026 Siberian:RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven

cass
07-09-2023, 03:19 PM
I wonder one thing: how comes most Finns (like Lemminkäinen) have a lot of Baltic DNA but us slavisized Balts don’t have much Finnish dna?


Target: Katarzyna_scaled(PolishBelarusianUkrainian)
Distance: 0.8232% / 0.00823221
54.4 Baltics
17.6 Western_Slavs
14.8 South_Slavs
12.0 Northern_Slavs
1.2 Finnish

Try 0.25x


Target: cass
Distance: 0.9176% / 0.00917634
47.6 Germanic
40.6 Baltics
6.8 South_Slavs:South
5.0 South_Slavs:East


Target: cass
Distance: 1.0208% / 0.01020849 | ADC: 0.25x
43.6 Western_Slavs
34.4 Germanic
16.6 Baltics
5.4 Northern_Slavs:A

Demirkazık
07-09-2023, 03:54 PM
Target: Demirkazık_scaled
Distance: 2.5578% / 0.02557765
49.0 Byzantines
40.0 Turkic
7.4 Levant
3.6 Slavs&Balts


Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz,0.1085115,0.1 44036,-0.0135137,-0.0428513,0.0093865,-0.0153855,0.0047783,-0.0011153,-0.0080105,0.0118755,0.0033832,0.002148,-0.003023,0.0053442,-0.0087767,-0.0098115,-0.004998,0.0025972,0.0038337,-0.0070867,-0.0011647,-0.0032357,-0.001294,-0.0028115,-0.0010978

Byzantine Balikesir sample has Slavic input compared to Stratonikeia sample, when removed i get this result:

Target: Demirkazık_scaled
Distance: 2.6812% / 0.02681202
42.8 Byzantines
39.8 Turkic
9.6 Slavs&Balts
7.8 Levant

Annihilus
07-09-2023, 04:06 PM
Target: Demirkazık_scaled
Distance: 2.5578% / 0.02557765
49.0 Byzantines
40.0 Turkic
7.4 Levant
3.6 Slavs&Balts


Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz,0.1085115,0.1 44036,-0.0135137,-0.0428513,0.0093865,-0.0153855,0.0047783,-0.0011153,-0.0080105,0.0118755,0.0033832,0.002148,-0.003023,0.0053442,-0.0087767,-0.0098115,-0.004998,0.0025972,0.0038337,-0.0070867,-0.0011647,-0.0032357,-0.001294,-0.0028115,-0.0010978

Byzantine Balikesir sample has Slavic input compared to Stratonikeia sample, when removed i get this result:

Target: Demirkazık_scaled
Distance: 2.6812% / 0.02681202
42.8 Byzantines
39.8 Turkic
9.6 Slavs&Balts
7.8 Levant

removing Balikesir sample gives me

Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 2.6026% / 0.02602587
66.4 Byzantines
23.4 Slavs&Balts
7.6 South_Asian
2.6 Turkic

JerryS.
07-10-2023, 04:45 PM
Didn't realize that I had any Slavic.

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 2.0731% / 0.02073086
45.8 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
36.4 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
9.8 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
6.0 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
2.0 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz

Figaro
07-10-2023, 04:54 PM
Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 1.9286% / 0.01928639
63.0 Celto-Germanic
17.4 Slavs&Balts
11.2 Iberian
6.4 Balkans
1.8 Levant
0.2 Siberian

Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 1.4351% / 0.01435114
53.2 Slavs&Balts
25.2 Celto-Germanic
9.6 Iberian
8.4 Balkans
2.6 Levant
1.0 Turkic

Jana
07-10-2023, 05:12 PM
Target: Feiichy_scaled
Distance: 0.0239% / 0.02390892

57.6 Slavs&Balts
39.0 Balkans
3.0 Iberian
0.4 Byzantines

Target: Feiichy_scaled
Distance: 0.0239% / 0.02390892

37.6 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
23.5 Balkans:MKD_BA
20.0 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
15.5 Balkans:ALB_MA
3.0 Iberian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga
0.4 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz

ZeDude
07-10-2023, 05:14 PM
Target: ZeDude
Distance: 1.3762% / 0.01376195
25.6 Balkans:MKD_BA
24.4 Balkans:ALB_MA
21.4 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
15.6 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
12.0 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
1.0 South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA

celticdragongod
07-10-2023, 09:06 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01677408 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
0.02385146 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
0.06373480 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.07411400 Iberian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga
0.07475009 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
0.07478766 Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA
0.09579517 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
0.11377452 Balkans:MKD_BA
0.11547272 Balkans:ALB_MA
0.11632463 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.14014351 Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz
0.16700660 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
0.21776837 Levant:Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
0.24900873 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman
0.27866781 South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA
0.57343671 Siberian:RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6602% / 0.01660208
98.6 Celto-Germanic
1.4 Slavs&Balts

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6602% / 0.01660208
86.6 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
12.0 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
1.4 Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA

Vega7
07-11-2023, 12:36 PM
Just out of curiosity... are there any early samples from Romania? I'm curious how they compared to the other Balkan samples like the ones in this calculator from Albania/Macedonia.

edit: nm I found the samples on anthrogenica and it didn't change much. Actually came out marginally higher in slavic even using a Moldavian sample.

alexmegas777
07-11-2023, 05:53 PM
Distance to: alexmegas_scaled
0.05218635 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.05571511 Balkans:MKD_BA
0.05737017 Balkans:ALB_MA
0.05876994 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.06604339 Iberian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga
0.07297154 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
0.07314242 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
0.07764759 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
0.08117356 Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz
0.08701556 Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA
0.10598785 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
0.12949295 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
0.15872146 Levant:Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
0.23756357 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman
0.26820652 South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA
0.57405799 Siberian:RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven

Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.1600% / 0.02160032
35.2 Slavs&Balts
30.6 Italian
22.0 Balkans
11.8 Iberian
0.4 Siberian

DomitiusAurelian
08-19-2023, 01:31 PM
Target: Domitius_scaled
Distance: 2.4840% / 0.02483950
62.0 Byzantines
28.6 Turkic
7.6 Levant
1.8 South_Asian

Kenshiro
10-27-2023, 08:02 PM
Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 1.6728% / 0.01672821
66.4 Balkans:ALB_MA
19.6 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
8.8 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
2.2 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman
2.2 South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA
0.8 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA

true_southron
10-27-2023, 09:04 PM
Target: true_southron_scaled
Distance: 1.0168% / 0.01016846
49.8 Balkans
25.4 Slavs&Balts
14.0 Italian
7.0 Levant
3.8 Iberian

Target: true_southron_scaled
Distance: 1.0170% / 0.01016983
32.0 Balkans:MKD_BA
18.4 Balkans:ALB_MA
13.4 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
12.2 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
9.6 Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA
7.4 Levant:Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
4.6 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
2.4 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA

Distance to: true_southron_scaled
0.03478201 Balkans:MKD_BA
0.03536511 Balkans:ALB_MA
0.03960102 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.05876296 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.06164532 Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz
0.06893925 Iberian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga
0.08601618 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
0.08778432 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
0.08811058 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
0.09337625 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
0.10294584 Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA
0.13944966 Levant:Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
0.14534861 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
0.23639152 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman
0.26860340 South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA
0.57837972 Siberian:RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven

MKD_BA = Macedonia Bronze Age? Some Ancient Macedonian DNA?

The_Strategist
11-09-2023, 04:00 PM
Target: Yan_scaled
Distance: 2.5893% / 0.02589327
63.4 Slavs&Balts
16.8 Byzantines
14.4 Balkans
5.4 Celto-Germanic

Katarzyna
11-09-2023, 04:45 PM
Target: Yan_scaled
Distance: 2.5893% / 0.02589327
63.4 Slavs&Balts
16.8 Byzantines
14.4 Balkans
5.4 Celto-Germanic

That’s very Slavic for a Balkanite

The_Strategist
11-09-2023, 04:58 PM
That’s very Slavic for a Balkanite

not what I expected, as I look dinarid

mariusz99
11-10-2023, 10:11 AM
Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 1.5691% / 0.01569088 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.4 Slavs&Balts
15.0 Celto-Germanic
6.8 Balkans
1.8 Turkic

Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 1.7012% / 0.01701152 | ADC: 0.5x RC
78.0 Slavs&Balts
22.0 Celto-Germanic

Norrsken
11-10-2023, 10:50 AM
Target: Norrsken_scaled
Distance: 2.5340% / 0.02533996
55.4 Celto-Germanic
39.0 Slavs&Balts
3.4 Iberian
2.2 Turkic

PaulieVanZant
11-10-2023, 07:01 PM
Target: Stahl
Distance: 1.6778% / 0.01677841
78.6 Celto-Germanic
17.6 Slavs&Balts
3.6 Balkans
0.2 Iberian

Beowulf
11-10-2023, 07:20 PM
Target: Stahl
Distance: 1.6778% / 0.01677841
78.6 Celto-Germanic
17.6 Slavs&Balts
3.6 Balkans
0.2 Iberian


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k6R_uKJc1g

#Oda#
11-10-2023, 08:16 PM
Target: #Oda#_scaled
Distance: 2.1453% / 0.02145261
77.4 Celto-Germanic
17.0 Slavs&Balts
5.6 Balkans

Distance to: #Oda#_scaled
0.02593618 Celto-Germanic:NOR_Mid_MA
0.03021327 Celto-Germanic:England_MIA_LIA
0.06668328 Slavs&Balts:UKR_Lutsk_MA
0.06758885 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
0.07091038 Slavs&Balts:RUS_Sunghir_MA
0.07562949 Iberian:Iberia_West_Conimbriga
0.08546589 Slavs&Balts:Baltic_EST_MA
0.11204094 Balkans:MKD_BA
0.11486591 Balkans:ALB_MA
0.11535189 Italian:ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity
0.14080473 Byzantines:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz
0.16498125 Byzantines:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Stratonikeia_Byz
0.21652061 Levant:Levant_Ashkelon_LBA
0.24913908 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman
0.27915085 South_Asian:PAK_Barikot_MA
0.57377624 Siberian:RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven

yngviktor
11-12-2023, 10:45 AM
Target: Viktor
Distance: 1.0231% / 0.01023142
52.8 Slavs&Balts
32.2 Balkans
9.2 Byzantines
3.4 Iberian
2.4 Italian