Different types of R1b

[Albion]

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1b-L21.gif
^"Celtic" / "British" R1b

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1b-S28.gif
^"Alpine" R1b

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1b-S21.gif
^"Germanic" / "Anglo-Saxon" R1b

A page all about R1b, its origins and different types... (http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1b_Y-DNA.shtml)

[Mordid]

The general one found in the 'Celtic' areas (which really aren't Celtic at all, the actual Celts being central Europeans) is known as the Atlantic Modal haplotype. It centres on Spain and Portugal, coastal France, Britain and Ireland, but is found anywhere where along the Atlantic coast. It's R1b1b2. There a Germanic R1b too which is slightly different.

[Logan]

Pallantides' group R-U106

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17844

[Damião de Góis]

I'll add R-S116 or R1b1b2a1a2, which is my own haplogroup.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/THq_t3eR6JI/AAAAAAAACjg/ECinYNcEUB8/s400/s116.jpg

http://rokus01.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/p312.png

in blue:

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/3839/p312xl21u152snptested.gif

[Ar-Man]

I can't see the pictures :confused:

[Argyll]

Awesome thread, Albion!

It's really eroneous for people to say that Celts were "central Europeans". We don't know, really, where they originated from. There's evidence to place them in Ireland and even Spain. But like one author said: 'They were the people that came out of the darkness'.

I wish I could get my DNA tested sometime soon. The price is a little too high though, but I've been able to do some lesser type of classification in the classify thread I did that still doesn't have more 'proper' pictures up. But also with the surnames, which place all of my ancestors in the British Isles.

[Treffie]

My R1b is considered Germanic. so I guess I'm a Celticised Germanic ;)

[Artek]

My R1b is considered Germanic. so I guess I'm a Celticised Germanic ;)
I always thought that R1b is not natively Germanic, but maybe I'm wrong now.

[Albion]

I always thought that R1b is not natively Germanic, but maybe I'm wrong now.

The Germanic peoples probably formed when the R1b and R1a Indo-Europeans met a strong population of I1 mesolithic recolonisers.
The Netherlands, Belgium, West Germany and England are all very R1b.

Treffie's R1b might be Flemish anyway.

[Allenson]

I belong to the L21 group.

http://compsoc.nuigalway.ie/~dubhthach/Haplogroup-R1b-L21.gif

[UlsterDuke]

I belong to the L21 group.

http://compsoc.nuigalway.ie/~dubhthach/Haplogroup-R1b-L21.gif

L21 also. Concentrated around Irish Coastal region, Irish Sea, Norway, Denmark, Scotland, England. This a Nordic line of R1b. Very cool. Goes back to Kings of Leinster, D. Mac Murchada.

[Artek]

L21 also. Concentrated around Irish Coastal region, Irish Sea, Norway, Denmark, Scotland, England. This a Nordic line of R1b. Very cool. Goes back to Kings of Leinster, D. Mac Murchada.

How come R-L21 is a Nordic line of R1b? :D

[Grace O'Malley]

L21 also. Concentrated around Irish Coastal region, Irish Sea, Norway, Denmark, Scotland, England. This a Nordic line of R1b. Very cool. Goes back to Kings of Leinster, D. Mac Murchada.

I don't think L21 is Nordic. It is most common in certain areas like the British Isles but there is a possibility that it first cropped up in Germany and/or Northern France. I would love my family to be M222 the Niall of the Nine Hostages type. :)

[Altaylardan Tunaya]

R-M269+ L23- over here

[Grace O'Malley]

I don't think L21 is Nordic. It is most common in certain areas like the British Isles but there is a possibility that it first cropped up in Germany and/or Northern France. I would love my family to be M222 the Niall of the Nine Hostages type. :)

My paternal line is R1b1b2a1a2f2 (M222) so just confirmed from my brother's results that we are of Niall's type. :)