Pontic Greek/Turk ancestry subtraction

[axlredneck]

https://youtu.be/880PazbwCR4

https://youtu.be/dpOUZQbBbJw


The Pontic Greeks are a group indigenous to the region of Pontus, in northeastern Anatolia (in Turkey).

[axlredneck]

https://i.ibb.co/d2NpFYZ/20230809-152209.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/tL0jj6V/20230809-151658.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/KGXHhxx/20230809-151625.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/jTPNBGj/20230809-151541.jpg

[axlredneck]

Pontic_60,0.1095968,0.1401518,-0.0541948,-0.0619907,-0.0255122,-0.0169697,0.0071267,-0.0063477,-0.0387967,-0.0019374,0.002424,0.0063682,-0.0130214,0.0059574,-0.0096523,-0.0112414,0.0069933,-0.0009163,-0.000856,0.002634,0.0035893,0.0021195,-0.0008714,-0.0043467,-0.0005352
Anatolian,0.1085282,0.1500661,-0.0392685,-0.067527,-0.0033152,-0.020524,0.0009626,-0.0046662,-0.0110624,0.0212932,0.0050236,0.00477,-0.0104382,0.0032609,-0.0153724,-0.0039734,0.0053183,-0.0018835,0.0047496,-0.0056416,-0.0007637,0.0006688,-0.0010667,0.001391,-0.0013613
Colchian,0.1116603,0.1359794,-0.0575864,-0.0498066,-0.0404382,-0.0070001,0.0114919,-0.0064612,-0.0634843,-0.0210664,0.0010879,0.0120343,-0.0262684,0.0034544,0.0035152,-0.0212276,0.012947,-0.0061825,-0.0095279,0.0174584,0.012266,0.0020156,-0.0002588,-0.0106037,-0.0025386
Armenian,0.0989394,0.1380902,-0.0632122,-0.064473,-0.0315001,-0.0186202,0.0052729,-0.0052788,-0.0296675,-0.0015011,0.0049719,0.0020508,-0.0045956,0.0038814,-0.0061921,-0.0017632,0.00216,0.0006876,0.0013278,-0.0021171,0.0026165,0.0006621,-0.0020871,-0.0089233,0.0015385
Noise,2.3902019,-1.4997223,-2.1343747,-1.936823,-1.2611501,-2.0117327,1.1433104,-0.8605038,-3.45448,-1.6486761,-1.1058156,-0.4440617,1.8878794,2.4726939,-3.6640171,-1.3519882,-0.3940275,1.9372376,0.6052403,-1.2701421,-1.375571,0.9479871,0.1453504,1.3299642,0.544176

https://i.ibb.co/64p3CDY/Screenshot-20230809-153416-Gallery.jpg

[axlredneck]

If you're a Pontic Greek and you're modelling yourself with the coordinates, don't exclude the 'Noise' coordinates.

[axlredneck]

Pontic Y-DNA (n=610)

G ~ 23.5%
J2 ~ 21.3%
L ~ 21.3%
R1b ~ 10%
J1 ~ 9%
E1b ~ 5.4%
I2 ~ 5.2%
T ~ 2.3%
R1a ~ 2%

[axlredneck]

Pontic phenotypes:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?110661-Pontic-Greeks-Where-do-they-fit-best

[MandM]

his haplogroup is J2 dont know the sub branch

Target: Stamatis_scaled
Distance: 2.7229% / 0.02722930
63.8 Anatolian
36.2 Colchian

Distance to: Stamatis_scaled
0.03518416 Pontic_60
0.04406106 Anatolian
0.04414889 Armenian
0.06695993 Colchian
8.66415854 Noise

[axlredneck]

his haplogroup is J2 dont know the sub branch

Target: Stamatis_scaled
Distance: 2.7229% / 0.02722930
63.8 Anatolian
36.2 Colchian

Distance to: Stamatis_scaled
0.03518416 Pontic_60
0.04406106 Anatolian
0.04414889 Armenian
0.06695993 Colchian
8.66415854 Noise

Mind sharing his coordinates?

[MandM]

Mind sharing his coordinates?

Stamatis_scaled,0.102441,0.136081,-0.044877,-0.043928,-0.011079,-0.008646,0.00282,-0.003461,-0.023316,0.002916,0.003085,0.006894,-0.013677,0.007432,-0.011672,-0.00769,0.012908,-0.006968,-0.005279,0.005378,0.003993,-0.000124,-0.003081,0.001928,0.004071

If you find anything pls contact me, so i can tell him about ypur findings

[axlredneck]

If you find anything pls contact me, so i can tell him about ypur findings

Target: Stamatis_scaled
Distance: 0.0170% / 0.01697575
54.7 Anatolian
34.5 Colchian
6.0 Belarusian
2.7 Khonda_Dora
2.1 MAR_EN

If his minor Slavic, Khonda_Dora, and MAR_EN ancestries are excluded, he scores like BOG028: an Ottoman-era western Pontic Greek!

Target: TUR_N_Bogazkoy_MA:BOG028
Distance: 0.0000% / 0.00000000
62.4 Anatolian
37.5 Colchian
0.1 Noise

[axlredneck]

TUR_N_Bogazkoy_MA:BOG028,0.104717,0.137096,-0.047894,-0.058463,-0.013233,-0.016176,0.008225,-0.002769,-0.034565,0.000364,0.00065,0.01124,-0.02438,0.00055,-0.008143,-0.015778,0.006128,-0.006334,0.005531,0.001876,0.000624,0.004699,-0.000863,0.005663,-0.00012
Anatolian,0.1101141,0.1511685,-0.0345587,-0.0630848,-0.0027269,-0.0197891,0.004108,-0.0032548,-0.0137939,0.0186278,0.0043322,0.0097618,-0.0178501,-0.0022745,-0.0161952,-0.0078019,0.0065126,-0.0030837,0.0092931,-0.0060722,-0.0038194,0.0044572,-0.0008973,0.0005682,-0.0011783
Colchian,0.1098393,0.1341514,-0.0608673,-0.0474487,-0.0385917,-0.0086178,0.0118211,-0.0062306,-0.0633613,-0.0185882,-0.0007469,0.0113599,-0.0254804,0.0059314,0.003841,-0.0239325,0.0072884,-0.0053717,-0.0101815,0.0153949,0.0138255,0.001657,0.0015406,-0.0076636,-0.0013892
Noise,-5.18393576,-7.539919106,-3.504133546,-1.304822403,2.940473218,-0.595926416,1.228695467,1.598470095,-2.19711881,-4.289172133,-1.773205259,0.888674307,-3.686387477,-0.254987032,0.522429976,-1.934926931,-0.669012272,-2.395383738,3.550168137,-0.10803462,-2.17725697,1.296332159,-0.880809951,8.182293194,1.136209327

Target: TUR_N_Bogazkoy_MA:BOG028
Distance: 0.0000% / 0.00000000
62.4 Anatolian
37.5 Colchian
0.1 Noise

https://i.ibb.co/ZxXXvwq/IMG-20230830-193021.jpg

[Voskos]

Target:
Distance: 4.3758% / 0.04375777
59.6 Greece_Delphi_BA_Mycenaean
38.2 Armenian
2.2 Colchian

[Anatolya]

Distance to: Anatolya_scaled
0.05042095 Armenian
0.05678565 Pontic_60
0.07259436 Colchian
0.08108674 Anatolian
8.65298435 Noise

https://i.ibb.co/3dW2R5b/image-4.jpg

somehow the map shows me closer to Pontic but the calculator brings up Armenian as my closest

[axlredneck]

Distance to: Anatolya_scaled
0.05042095 Armenian
0.05678565 Pontic_60
0.07259436 Colchian
0.08108674 Anatolian
8.65298435 Noise

https://i.ibb.co/3dW2R5b/image-4.jpg

somehow the map shows me closer to Pontic but the calculator brings up Armenian as my closest

Can you share your coordinates?

[placebo]

Distance to: placebo
0.03567311 Pontic_60
0.04144884 Colchian
0.04758340 Armenian
0.07304129 Anatolian
8.64802465 Noise