Sarakatsani results

[Konstantinos Kara]

Here are the gedmatch results of a fully Sarakatsani,from Central Greece
Population
North_Atlantic 15.97 Pct
Baltic 17.44 Pct
West_Med 19.72 Pct
West_Asian 14.63 Pct
East_Med 28.76 Pct
Red_Sea 1.47 Pct
South_Asian 0.88 Pct
East_Asian 0.45 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.68 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

[MandM]

From the newest updated k13

Distance to: Sarakatsani
4.52381476 Greek_Achaea
4.80293660 Greek_Messenia
5.05394895 Greek_West
5.07448520 Greek_Peloponnese
5.41739790 Greek_Central
5.58429047 Greek_Laconia
5.59668652 Greek_Istanbul
5.65946994 Greek_Epirus
5.81834169 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.94281920 Greek_Athens
6.34437546 Greek_Arcadia
6.47474324 Greek_Smyrna&Phokaia
6.73971068 Turkish_Crete
6.94661068 Greek_Kefalonia
7.24744783 Greek_Thessaly
7.33902582 Greek_Euboea_South
7.37941055 Greek_Tsakonia
7.60488001 Turkish_Macedonia
7.62762086 Greek_Thrace
7.77481189 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
8.01895879 Albanian_South_Albania
8.16554346 Greek_Samos
8.51963027 Greek_Cyclades
8.64538027 Albanian_Central_Albania
8.90115161 Albanian_Macedonia

Target: Sarakatsani
Distance: 192.9705% / 1.92970512
43.6 Greek_Kastellorizo
40.0 Greek_Thrace
11.4 Latvian
5.0 Sardinian

Target: Sarakatsani
Distance: 237.2235% / 2.37223504 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.8 Greek_Istanbul
41.2 Greek_Thrace

Target: Sarakatsani
Distance: 237.2235% / 2.37223504 | ADC: 0.5x RC
58.8 Greek_Istanbul
41.2 Greek_Thrace

Target: Sarakatsani
Distance: 230.2054% / 2.30205399 | R3P
48.2 Greek_Thrace
40.0 Greek_Kastellorizo
11.8 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)

Target: Sarakatsani
Distance: 193.7910% / 1.93791008 | R4P
45.2 Greek_Kastellorizo
37.0 Greek_Thrace
12.4 Latvian
5.4 Sardinian

[sage]

From the newest updated k13

Distance to: Sarakatsani
4.52381476 Greek_Achaea
4.80293660 Greek_Messenia
5.05394895 Greek_West
5.07448520 Greek_Peloponnese
5.41739790 Greek_Central
5.58429047 Greek_Laconia
5.59668652 Greek_Istanbul
5.65946994 Greek_Epirus
5.81834169 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.94281920 Greek_Athens
6.34437546 Greek_Arcadia
6.47474324 Greek_Smyrna&Phokaia
6.73971068 Turkish_Crete
6.94661068 Greek_Kefalonia
7.24744783 Greek_Thessaly
7.33902582 Greek_Euboea_South
7.37941055 Greek_Tsakonia
7.60488001 Turkish_Macedonia
7.62762086 Greek_Thrace
7.77481189 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
8.01895879 Albanian_South_Albania
8.16554346 Greek_Samos
8.51963027 Greek_Cyclades
8.64538027 Albanian_Central_Albania
8.90115161 Albanian_Macedonia

Target: Sarakatsani
Distance: 192.9705% / 1.92970512
43.6 Greek_Kastellorizo
40.0 Greek_Thrace
11.4 Latvian
5.0 Sardinian

Target: Sarakatsani
Distance: 237.2235% / 2.37223504 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.8 Greek_Istanbul
41.2 Greek_Thrace

Target: Sarakatsani
Distance: 237.2235% / 2.37223504 | ADC: 0.5x RC
58.8 Greek_Istanbul
41.2 Greek_Thrace

Target: Sarakatsani
Distance: 230.2054% / 2.30205399 | R3P
48.2 Greek_Thrace
40.0 Greek_Kastellorizo
11.8 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)

Target: Sarakatsani
Distance: 193.7910% / 1.93791008 | R4P
45.2 Greek_Kastellorizo
37.0 Greek_Thrace
12.4 Latvian
5.4 Sardinian

Where did you get the new k 13 updated sheet from ?

[MandM]

Where did you get the new k 13 updated sheet from ?

https://pastebin.com/1H0TwEFm

[sage]

https://pastebin.com/1H0TwEFm

Thanks!

[Konstantinos Kara]

do you think there is a connection with aromanians/vlachs?

[Flashball]

G25?

[Konstantinos Kara]

i can only make simulated G25

[Konstantinos Kara]

well unfortunately i learnt that he is not a pure Sarakatsani,so....

[xripkan]

well unfortunately i learnt that he is not a pure Sarakatsani,so....

Is he from Sterea Ellada though?

[MandM]

do you think there is a connection with aromanians/vlachs?

Well he dosent look like he is, looks like somthing is pushing him more to the east when he gets so much kastellorizo, Greek_thrace looks more sarakatsani

[Konstantinos Kara]

yes

[Konstantinos Kara]

do you have sarakatsani samples to support that?There is only Catgeorge,but i dont know the background of his non-sarakatsani parent.

[catgeorge]

do you have sarakatsani samples to support that?There is only Catgeorge,but i dont know the background of his non-sarakatsani parent.

Father is 100% Sarakatsanos
Mother is a native from Thessaloniki city she can trace her ancestry back to Thessaloniki four generations in other words she knew her grand parents and great grand parents.

Both only spoke Greek.

[Konstantinos Kara]

oh,now it is going to be easy to extract the sarakatsani ancestry now.Can you share your Eurogenes K36?That will make the G25 simulation easier.Btw you are the only sarakatsani with R1b,i know many sarakatsani by paternal ancestry(like me) who have I2.

[catgeorge]

Dont care about haplonationalism is my father is R1b


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.58 Pct
Armenian 2.08 Pct
Basque 2.45 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.18 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 9.89 Pct
East_Med 14.89 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 7.39 Pct
Iberian 9.52 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 18.37 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 4.11 Pct
North_African 1.25 Pct
North_Atlantic 7.35 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.67 Pct
North_Sea 4.22 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.87 Pct
West_Med 4.19 Pc

[Flashball]

i can only make simulated G25

Ok, share
Thanks

[Flashball]

Dont care about haplonationalism is my father is R1b


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.58 Pct
Armenian 2.08 Pct
Basque 2.45 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.18 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 9.89 Pct
East_Med 14.89 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 7.39 Pct
Iberian 9.52 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 18.37 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 4.11 Pct
North_African 1.25 Pct
North_Atlantic 7.35 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.67 Pct
North_Sea 4.22 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.87 Pct
West_Med 4.19 Pc

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 4.3102% / 0.04310178
51.6 TUR_Barcin_N
46.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
2.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.4 WHG

[MandM]

oh,now it is going to be easy to extract the sarakatsani ancestry now.Can you share your Eurogenes K36?That will make the G25 simulation easier.Btw you are the only sarakatsani with R1b,i know many sarakatsani by paternal ancestry(like me) who have I2.

But is I2 not just a Slavic haplogroup, or is there a subgroup that originated there befor the slavic people migrated to the balkans ?

[true_southron]

But is I2 not just a Slavic haplogroup, or is there a subgroup that originated there befor the slavic people migrated to the balkans ?

There are two main branches of I2a related to South Slavs. One is I-PH908 (mostly in West Balkans), other is Z17855 (east Balkans and I think somewhat older). Of course there are other smaller branches, but the previous two dominate among South Slavs. I've seen people carrying subgroups that predate Slavic ethnogenesis but in smaller frequencies.

[MandM]

There are two main branches of I2a related to South Slavs. One is I-PH908 (mostly in West Balkans), other is Z17855 (east Balkans and I think somewhat older). Of course there are other smaller branches, but the previous two dominate among South Slavs. I've seen people carrying subgroups that predate Slavic ethnogenesis but in smaller frequencies.

Witch ones do you know predates the Slavic ethnogenesis ?

[Konstantinos Kara]

His result is kinda strange.He is like a sardinian.I mean,he doesnt plot with any modern or ancient sample,as i saw.He is distant.Imagine what we will see if we extract the local macedonian ancestry.

[Konstantinos Kara]

Catgeorge you didnt make any mistake,right?

[true_southron]

Witch ones do you know predates the Slavic ethnogenesis ?

For example this one:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y16418/
Although its mostly Armenian.

Its a very large tree, you can check yourself for the if you are curious:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/I2/


His result is kinda strange.He is like a sardinian.I mean,he doesnt plot with any modern or ancient sample,as i saw.He is distant.Imagine what we will see if we extract the local macedonian ancestry.

Its not strange. He kind of plots "near" me:
https://i.ibb.co/bv8vngx/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views.png

If I had to guess he's probably from northwestern parts of Greek Macedonia.

[Konstantinos Kara]

For example this one:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y16418/
Although its mostly Armenian.

Its a very large tree, you can check yourself for the if you are curious:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/I2/



Its not strange. He kind of plots "near" me:
https://i.ibb.co/bv8vngx/Vahaduo-Global-25-Views.png

If I had to guess he's probably from northwestern parts of Greek Macedonia.
he has 46% Yamnaya,which is crazy for a Greek.Have you extracted the Macedonian ancestry in that sample,right?
The no extracted
Distance to: Greek_Half_Sarakatsani
0.04330472 Greek_Aromanian
0.04492894 Italian_Piedmont
0.04670250 Italian_Northeast
0.04699898 Greek_Thessaly
0.04699915 Gagauz
0.04705168 Macedonian
0.04740171 Italian_Emilia
0.04761682 Italian_Veneto
0.04850287 Greek_Macedonia
0.04866722 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.04882728 Italian_Tuscany
0.04895590 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.04900207 Bulgarian
0.04925116 Greek_North_Epirote
0.04934446 Italian_Lombardy
0.05004954 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.05009853 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.05028466 Swiss_Italian
0.05031916 French_Provence
0.05046274 Romanian
0.05049211 Italian_Bergamo
0.05049776 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
0.05180120 Italian_Liguria
0.05199445 Rumelia_East
0.05211259 Albanian

[true_southron]

he has 46% Yamnaya,which is crazy for a Greek.Have you extracted the Macedonian ancestry in that sample,right?
The no extracted
Distance to: Greek_Half_Sarakatsani
0.04330472 Greek_Aromanian
0.04492894 Italian_Piedmont
0.04670250 Italian_Northeast
0.04699898 Greek_Thessaly
0.04699915 Gagauz
0.04705168 Macedonian
0.04740171 Italian_Emilia
0.04761682 Italian_Veneto
0.04850287 Greek_Macedonia
0.04866722 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige
0.04882728 Italian_Tuscany
0.04895590 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
0.04900207 Bulgarian
0.04925116 Greek_North_Epirote
0.04934446 Italian_Lombardy
0.05004954 Greek_West_Taygetos
0.05009853 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.05028466 Swiss_Italian
0.05031916 French_Provence
0.05046274 Romanian
0.05049211 Italian_Bergamo
0.05049776 Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada
0.05180120 Italian_Liguria
0.05199445 Rumelia_East
0.05211259 Albanian

I have a theory that people who lived alongside mountainous parts of Via Egnatia road (or not far from that road) as a result have more Italian DNA. Call it a leftover from Roman times. However I can't prove it on a tiny sample.

PS. Send me source and I'll provide you with my distance

[Konstantinos Kara]

its just the modern averages which i can find in vahaduo,with additional aromanian,arvanite,cham etc
can you send me the G25 of the extracted Sarakatsani sample?

[catgeorge]

Its inbetween Greek, Central-North Romance and Slavic.
Not sure where the central north romance came from but I think it could be a combination of

As I said my paternal grand parents and great grand parents only knew Greek.

365 AD battle of adrianople with the Goth where Goths settled in Thrace and many became a part of Byzantine cavalry under Theodosius I and was a bullwark for centuries thereafter

..and maybe some settlers that came to Kingdom of Thessaloniki under Boniface of Montferrat. Both Conrad and Renier married into Byzantine royalty with Maria Komnene in 1180 and Theodora Angelina

Im sorry - we can't do anything about our genetic history.

[Konstantinos Kara]

yes of course we cant do anything.After all we want to learn the truth.Now i am trying to understand what are sarakatsani people from a genetic prespective.

[catgeorge]

yes of course we cant do anything.After all we want to learn the truth.Now i am trying to understand what are sarakatsani people from a genetic prespective.

Thessalian Neolithic + Early LBK

[catgeorge]

Early LBK pottery is Sarakatsani like patterns

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Smac_Neolithikum_040.jpg

[kingmob]

yes of course we cant do anything.After all we want to learn the truth.Now i am trying to understand what are sarakatsani people from a genetic prespective.

Dont believe that clown, he's known to fake data. He's not r1b either, he doesn't know anything about its clades and he won't reveal "his".

[catgeorge]

Dont believe that clown, he's known to fake data. He's not r1b either, he doesn't know anything about its clades and he won't reveal "his".

You're not even Greek.

Triggered because we are not from Asia minor?

You idiot.

[kingmob]

You're not even Greek.

Triggered because we are not from Asia minor?

You idiot.

Go diaf, clown.

Like your monkey brain would even begin to comprehend the data I present.

[catgeorge]

Go diaf, clown.

Like your monkey brain would even begin to comprehend the data I present.

You are a bunch of Mortimers to me.

[kingmob]

Said the person spamming videos from Gyftokampos (gypsy valley).

Spare the forum and diaf, complexed lying pos.

[catgeorge]

Said the person spamming videos from Gyftokampos (gypsy valley).

Spare the forum and diaf, complexed lying pos.

Thats sarakatsano traditions. You know being on the mountains as klefts and armatoloi. Refusing to be under Islamic rule....

Nah you wouldn't know because you are infused with Iraniac-Gypsy blood.

[kingmob]

Thats sarakatsano traditions. You know being on the mountains as klefts and armatoloi. Refusing to be under Islamic rule....

Nah you wouldn't know because you are infused with Iraniac-Gypsy blood.

In your dreams.

You are Bulgarians like results have shown including the OP. You don't even have a dialect of your own.

Villager trash, go shovel some manure, it's your natural habitat after all.

[catgeorge]

In your dreams.

You are Bulgarians like results have shown including the OP. You don't even have a dialect of your own.

Villager trash, go shovel some manure, it's your natural habitat after all.

But I have ancestral homelands - you lost yours from low IQ. We had to welcome you as filoxenoumenoi.

[kingmob]

But I have ancestral homelands - you lost yours from low IQ. We had to welcome you as filoxenoumenoi.
Karakachan were refugee settlers from Bulgaria, nice try, trash.

And we took control of Macedonia and you and your makedonski ilk can't stop crying about it.

Can't think of a worst place to live in than Lagkadas and its constant stench of manure, villager trash.

[catgeorge]

Karakachan were refugee settlers from Bulgaria, nice try, trash.

And we took control of Macedonia and you and your makedonski ilk can't stop crying about it.

Can't think of a worst place to live in than Lagkadas and its constant stench of manure, villager trash.

Keep coping gypsy.

I am astounded how someone that is Iranic-blooded and wild brained like a low IQ ape can know so much about Greek people.

Simple answer you don't. The reason why because you are merely guests to the lands and you hate the fact.

We have nothing to do with Bulgaria - this only a figment of your gypsy-Mortimer like imagination.

[kingmob]

Your home village Lagkadas is entirely settled by refugees from Bulgarian and Turkish Thrace.

Now give us more fake data of you plotting like a North Italian (roflmao) instead of Bulgarian.

Laughing stock.

[catgeorge]

Your home village Lagkadas is entirely settled by refugees from Bulgarian and Turkish Thrace.

Now give us more fake data of you plotting like a North Italian (roflmao) instead of Bulgarian.

Laughing stock.

But it will never stop anyone from Greece and Europe seeing you as Non-Greek gypsies.

[kingmob]

Also, I am whiter skinned than you, like it fucking matters.

That's the only language a pos like you understands.

[catgeorge]

Also, I am whiter than you, brownie, and your browny family. Next word I get from you, I am linking your family classification thread you think we have forgotten about.

That's the only language a pos like you understands.

But you all look like Iranic gypsies with a low IQ that lost your homelands and now visitors in someone elses.

This is gypsy like behaviour.

[kingmob]

But you all look like Iranic gypsies with a low IQ that lost your homelands and now visitors in someone elses.

This is gypsy like behaviour.

Karakachan are also refugees, you dumb fuck. From Thrace.

Or are you not a karakachan now.

[catgeorge]

Karakachan are also refugees, you dumb fuck. From Thrace.

Or are you not a karakachan now.

Sarakatsani are part of the Greek people that liberated Greece. Whereas Iranic gypsies from Pontus defeated Greece and not only did we not gain Smyrna and COnstantinople due to your low IQ you also wanted to come to our homelands so you wouldn't be slaughtered by Islamics due to your low intellect.

How does this all work out?

[catgeorge]

Thats right - sit in the corner and stfu like you should have done in 1922

[kingmob]

Karakachan are Bulgarian shepherds that were settled in Greece after the exchange with Bulgaria.

Half of their original population stayed back and are Bulgarians now.

Pontics were settled in Macedonia after the request by the Brits to salvage the territory from the Slavs because your trash people only know to shovel manure not fight. You are widely known in Northern Greece as the cowards, always running away from a fight, like the goats and sheep you sleep with.

Human trash.

[kingmob]

Thats right - sit in the corner and stfu like you should have done in 1922

Said the person BTFO by the non existant Bulgarian army of the time.

[kingmob]

Post your pic and your r1b clades, coward trash.

Make me eat crow, but you won't because you can't walk the walk.

Only obscenities and verbal diarrhea from you.

Whoever believes data this pos posts deserve the clown award.

[catgeorge]

Karakachan are Bulgarian shepherds that were settled in Greece after the exchange with Bulgaria.

Half of their original population stayed back and are Bulgarians now.

Pontics were settled in Macedonia after the request by the Brits to salvage the territory from the Slavs because your trash people only knows to shovel manure not fight. You are widely known in Northern Greece as the cowards, always running away from a fight, like the goats and sheep you sleep with.

Human trash.

Sarakatsani originated in Central Greece not Bulgaria . These are fairy tales you proport to feel better about yourselves and your low intellect and semitic type lying and mis information.

But thats ok because the bloodline of this

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Sarakatsani_Western_Macedonia_1935.jpg

and this

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Men_of_the_5-42_Evzone_Regiment%2C_Odessa_1919.jpg

is identicle.

.. all we get from Iranic gypsies are wild ape like brains that don't do what they are told because if these apes were did what they were told we would have Smyrna and Constantinople today but they are wild like animals.. We did not want you - the British wanted you here and we still don't want you.

You are a foreigner. Understood?

[kingmob]

Look at the nonsense this monkey is posting.

As to being a foreigner I think it's you who has the problem not me.

Without us, you are an appetizer for the Turk, just like the disgusting slop you call cheese you are only capable of producing.

[catgeorge]

Look at the nonsense this monkey is posting.

As to being a foreigner I think it's you who has the problem not me.

Without us, you are an appetizer for the Turk, just like the disgusting slop you call cheese you are only capable of producing.

We kicked the Turks out in Macedonia along with Cretans and other Islanders but we also lost Smyrna and Constantinople due to wild ape brains that couldn't take orders.

As I said I have my ancesteral lands you don't because you behave like apes.

[true_southron]

its just the modern averages which i can find in vahaduo,with additional aromanian,arvanite,cham etc
can you send me the G25 of the extracted Sarakatsani sample?

I don't have Sarakatsani sample. That's why I asked you about the sources.
I will check with one friend who is fully Aromanian from southwestern parts of Macedonia, but he needs to do the test first.

[kingmob]

We kicked your Slavic kin out of Macedonia otherwise now your shitty village would be another shithole of monkeydonia.

Why should we fight the Turks for your sake?

Your people have demographically disappeared anyways. In 10 years your village will be entirely settled by Pakistani agricultural workers.

Our population is thriving.

[kingmob]

Now stfu or my next post is a link to your classification thread.

Edit: I've been warned I am being baited to break forum rules, people can PM me for further details.

[catgeorge]

You Iranic gypsies werent even in Macedonia we kicked the Bulgarians out in 1913 - you were still trying to decide whether to become muslim and communist.

Not one Iranic gypsy was involved in the Greek forces in the 1897 Greek-Turkish war. That left Macedonia somewhat empty.

..and besides the biggest communist that sided with Slavs and Yugoslavs were IRANICS LIKE YOU.

The biggest communists in Greece were refugees from Asia Minor.

So please - stop your Semitic type lying and sob stories you are becoming pathetic. Even more than before and that's some sort of feat.

[kingmob]

So please - stop your Semitic type lying and sob stories you are becoming pathetic. Even more than before and that's some sort of feat.


Semites are a nuclear superpower that buy and sell you with their spare change, karakachan trash.

You still live in mud+stone houses in the most retarded village of Thessaloniki.

Coward, poor, pathetic and soon replaced by Pakistanis.

Congrats.

[catgeorge]

Semites are a nuclear superpower that buy and sell you with their spare change, karakachan trash.

You still live in mud+stone houses in the most retarded village of Thessaloniki.

Coward, poor, pathetic and soon replaced by Pakistanis.

Congrats.

case closed - now get lost.

[kingmob]

case closed - now get lost.

Like I said, you've been had.

Now go diaf, disgusting excuse of a human being.

[catgeorge]

Like I said, you've been had.

Now go diaf, disgusting excuse of a human being.

You still keep going like ape brains. No surprises there.

Its in your bloodline to act like gypsies and lie like Semitics. You have the best of all worlds for the proverbial Siemens oven - but you don't have any Greek.

[kingmob]

You still keep going like ape brains. No surprises there.

Its in your bloodline to act like gypsies and lie like Semitics. You have the best of all worlds for the proverbial Siemens oven - but you don't have any Greek.


https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-A-Hwvx3YisM/Ud6ZZsWqyOI/AAAAAAAAF5E/dTdJao9ZZEo/s1600/1.JPG


The pinnacle of Karakachan industry, bad mouthing Iran, folks.

[Konstantinos Kara]

Well,guys lets stop this war.Now we must see the ancestry of sarakatsani people.We have here a half sarakatsani. Shouldn't we just try to extract his sarakatsani admixture,to see the truth?Anyone can make his theories,but the genetic data can speak for itself.

[Konstantinos Kara]

Thessalian Neolithic + Early LBK
well your k36 seems to be different than your k13.Is the eurogenes k36 false or not?

[Flashball]

Dont care about haplonationalism is my father is R1b


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.58 Pct
Armenian 2.08 Pct
Basque 2.45 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.18 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 9.89 Pct
East_Med 14.89 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 7.39 Pct
Iberian 9.52 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 18.37 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 4.11 Pct
North_African 1.25 Pct
North_Atlantic 7.35 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.67 Pct
North_Sea 4.22 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.87 Pct
West_Med 4.19 Pc

What's your gedmatch kit?

[Konstantinos Kara]

Thats a very good question

[Flashball]

Thats a very good question

Yeah

[Konstantinos Kara]

Yeah
But i remember that he has posted his Eurogenes K13

[lockdownboredom]

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 4.3102% / 0.04310178
51.6 TUR_Barcin_N
46.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
2.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.4 WHG

I don't believe you correctly simulated those results. This is what I ended up with.

Target: K36_to_G25_SIM
Distance: 2.6465% / 0.02646518
33.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
31.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
29.8 TUR_Barcin_N
4.6 WHG
1.2 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps

Target: K36_to_G25_SIM
Distance: 2.8725% / 0.02872527
57.4 TUR_Barcin_N
33.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
4.2 WHG
2.2 GEO_CHG
1.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.2 Levant_PPNB

K36_to_G25_SIM,0.123092,0.154019,0.016863,-0.015929,0.026532,-0.002169,0.002414,0.001322,0.001998,0.017142,-0.002971,0.005384,-0.009223,0.006457,-0.004196,0.000337,0.003832,-0.000458,0.005984,-0.002461,-0.002154,-0.004635,-0.000688,0.001243,0.001748

[true_southron]

its just the modern averages which i can find in vahaduo,with additional aromanian,arvanite,cham etc
can you send me the G25 of the extracted Sarakatsani sample?

I just put the K36 results catgeorge posted here:
https://www.exploreyourdna.com/simulated-g25.aspx

[Konstantinos Kara]

Take a look at his Eurogenes K13 results tho,they look different.
Catgeorge,22.21,15.58,18.84,14.25,23.92,3.12,0,0,0 ,0,0,1.05,0

[lockdownboredom]

sims are trash tbh

https://i.ibb.co/x3GBCwX/image.png

[Konstantinos Kara]

sims are trash tbh

https://i.ibb.co/x3GBCwX/image.png

Shouldnt we just compare Eurogenes K13 with Eurogenes K13?
Sims are trully trash.I would say that only sims from Eurogenes K36 are kinda good.
Can you somehow extract the central macedonian admixture to reveal Sarakatsani ancestry?

[Babak]

But you all look like Iranic gypsies with a low IQ that lost your homelands and now visitors in someone elses.

This is gypsy like behaviour.

Lol throwing Iranic as an insult is hilarious since these "Iranic gypsies" established some of the most powerful and influential empires in human history. But I guess now I understand why Turks here constantly insult your people.

[Mejgusu]

Lol throwing Iranic as an insult is hilarious since these "Iranic gypsies" established some of the most powerful and influential empires in human history. But I guess now I understand why Turks here constantly insult your people.

Catcorage is the ambassador of Greek Gods in Australia. He hates everything and everyone, even other Greeks(look how he is talking to them), don’t take him seriously. 2400 years ago, Alexander had no problem having fun with some Iranian girls(and boys), it seems looking like a Persian isn’t really a problem.

[Konstantinos Kara]

Catgeorge are you willing to share your gedmatch kit?

[Konstantinos Kara]

The only Sarakatsani i have found is a 3/4 Sarakatsani and 1/4 Bulgarian