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Voskos
09-30-2023, 11:45 PM
Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval,0.1149613, 0.1308678,0.0597863,0.0498712,0.0412179,0.0194665, 0.0003133,0.0077997,0.0043769,-0.0010813,-0.0053481,0.0055251,-0.0099207,-0.0101565,0.0228914,0.0085654,-0.0055283,0.000228,0.0054303,0.0046105,0.0089509,0 .0057046,0.0004684,0.0145241,0.0014449
Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia,0.10927,0.07 2103,0.042992,0.010982,0.008001,-0.000837,0.00705,0.003692,-0.000205,0.002187,-0.001137,0.005245,0.001635,0.004404,-0.004614,-0.013524,-0.014603,0.003927,0.003645,0.006003,-0.012353,0.000866,-0.000986,-0.001687,0.001317
British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval,0.1303502,0.13 46186,0.0639748,0.0516154,0.0394904,0.017704,0.003 3746,0.0064797,0.0045076,0.0001676,-0.0027086,0.0048557,-0.0118392,-0.0147697,0.0208684,0.0066031,-0.0060394,0.0022551,0.002509,0.0044522,0.0064186,0 .0045158,-0.0020212,0.0097314,-0.0018825
Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval,0.093335,0.135065,-0.061471,-0.062662,-0.024312,-0.024821,0.004935,-0.010384,-0.019634,-0.001458,0.007795,0.005845,-0.001487,0.001101,-0.002036,0.004906,0.004172,0.007981,0.002137,-0.006503,-0.000998,0.006554,-0.003574,-0.001205,0.000479
Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG,0.127482,0.126941,0.06184 8,0.054264,0.03693,0.01757,0.00611,0.01523,-0.004909,-0.017495,0.001786,-0.008393,0.016353,0.023946,-0.018187,-0.000398,0.011213,-0.007095,0.000754,0.003126,-0.007487,-0.013354,0.011092,-0.00494,0.003113
French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG,0.127482,0.138112,0.059962,0.045866,0.04339 3,0.010877,0.003525,0.005307,0.016566,0.010205,0.0 00974,0.013788,-0.01442,-0.011423,0.02918,0.011138,-0.000522,0.004814,0.009176,0.003627,0.004243,0.006 554,-0.002711,0.00012,0.002395
Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG,0.095611,0.12 3895,-0.059962,-0.063631,-0.023697,-0.017012,0.00282,-0.006,0.005113,-0.011299,0.006008,-0.014837,0.017245,0.003028,0.000814,0.008618,-0.022817,-0.005321,0.005656,0.004877,0.01148,0.001731,-0.002588,-0.001084,0.000479
Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG,0.129379,0.1188167,0.0900 063,0.088825,0.046265,0.0366277,0.011907,0.0137683 ,0.0036133,-0.03341,-0.010501,-0.013488,0.013627,0.028763,-0.0019907,0.01569,0.012169,-0.0046033,0.0024303,-0.002668,0.002953,8.23e-05,0.0062443,0.003213,-0.0014367
Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic,0.09675,0.109677,-0.051288,-0.028424,-0.047393,-0.002789,0.00094,-0.010153,-0.032315,-0.012939,0.008931,-0.007194,0.005946,0.005505,0.002036,-0.001989,-0.02021,-0.004561,0.00176,-0.010755,-0.005366,-0.000989,0.004437,-0.008555,0.004071
Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval,0.126344,0.13100 3,0.065242,0.05168,0.030775,0.02761,0.009635,0.009 692,-0.007363,-0.010752,-0.005846,-0.002248,0.004757,0.030552,-0.010858,-0.006099,-0.015255,-0.001394,0.006536,-0.009004,-0.008859,0.000124,0.015529,0.001325,0.002036
Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG, 0.1303275,0.1416665,0.0607165,0.039406,0.0486245,0 .012829,0.005405,0.0103845,0.013703,0.0118455,-0.0010555,0.0003745,0.0001485,0.005161,-0.001357,0.0016575,-0.0001955,0.000887,-0.002514,-0.002251,0.0108555,-0.0015455,-0.0071485,-0.0112665,0.0043105
Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval,0.105476,0.133034,-0.054054,-0.050065,-0.030159,-0.0073443,-0.0005483,-0.0070767,-0.0310873,-0.0059533,0.001949,0.0017987,-0.0071353,0.000413,0.0021263,-0.0034917,-0.0018253,0.002914,0.0038967,-0.0005837,0.0016637,-0.000371,-0.0008217,0.000281,0.0034723
Berber:Mozabite,-0.0649782,0.135551,-0.0032793,-0.0717622,0.0260249,-0.0328364,-0.0260656,0.0108257,0.0617306,0.0303463,0.0065097,-0.006366,0.021795,-0.0165685,0.0163159,-0.016176,-0.0027097,-0.0219282,-0.0435571,0.0082757,-0.0146263,-0.0367947,0.0246817,-0.0042277,0.0056594
Greek:Turkey_Byzantine,0.1023143,0.1475902,-0.0302536,-0.0595397,0.0003078,-0.0208239,-0.0007311,-0.0042819,-0.0064313,0.0158747,0.0028868,0.0025642,-0.0044102,0.0018657,-0.0118679,0.0026224,0.011836,-0.0010557,0.0040643,0.0017787,-0.0035908,0.0015389,-0.0008763,0.0013521,-0.0036989
Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval,0.109555 ,0.1457285,0.007165,-0.0260015,0.0251588,-0.0124805,0.00188,0.000346,0.007363,0.0222328,0.00 3329,0.0065565,-0.0124875,-0.0013418,-0.0007127,-0.0037458,-0.0011082,0.00019,0.0066305,-0.004002,-0.0005925,0.0059662,-0.003605,-0.0018378,0.0012275
Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG,0.084229,-0.006093,0,-0.01615,-0.041854,-0.011435,-0.004935,-0.001615,-0.008181,-0.011299,-0.011367,-0.003297,-0.008622,-0.001651,0.004343,-0.00053,0.009257,-0.00266,0.002765,-0.01038,-0.006489,-0.000371,-0.007888,0.001205,0.002275
Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG,0.135449,0.137096,0.07 5047,0.050711,0.048624,0.019243,0.002585,0.004384, 0.005727,-0.001458,-0.01153,-0.000749,-0.006095,-0.006193,0.020087,0.015778,0.006258,0.008108,-0.004274,0.008504,0.006239,0.003833,-0.001479,0.014339,0.008143
Iberian:Spain_Medieval,0.1154168,0.1421738,0.03567 54,-0.0032946,0.0360068,0.000223,-0.0048882,0.003323,0.0278562,0.0347706,-0.0040922,0.007763,-0.0126658,-0.009496,0.0049674,-0.0024128,0,-0.0054224,-0.0027654,-0.0037518,0.0046918,0.002869,-0.0021444,-0.0029642,2.4e-05
Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG,0.1172 38,0.1482675,0.012256,-0.024871,0.022312,-0.0136655,0.004935,0.001269,-0.0021475,0.024784,0.000812,0.0095165,-0.011893,-0.005092,-0.011468,-0.00232,-0.0018905,0,0.003834,-0.0058155,-0.0005615,0.002102,-0.0036355,0.0026505,0.000778
edit: added Italian
edit : added Ottoman (suggestion DomitiusAurelian)
edit: added Viking (suggestion Grace O'Malley)
edit : added Spain
edit: added pre-slavic Balkan
Abriekman
09-30-2023, 11:48 PM
Target: Abriekman_scaled
Distance: 1.7747% / 0.01774730
73.0 Slav
13.8 British_Irish
6.2 Celt
4.8 Persian
2.2 Levant
Target: Abriekman_scaled
Distance: 1.7954% / 0.01795350 | R3P
76.2 Slav
17.2 British_Irish
6.6 Levant
true_southron
10-01-2023, 12:11 AM
Add also Medieval German
PS. Sorry, I did not notice you added it
In any case
Distance to: true_southron_scaled
0.03983057 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.07495243 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.08560962 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
0.08615075 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
0.09017845 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
0.09343659 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
0.09360085 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
0.09402294 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.09405411 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
0.11839767 Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval
0.12576680 Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval
0.13079053 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
0.13159256 Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic
0.14392214 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.23089635 Berber:Mozabite
Target: true_southron_scaled
Distance: 1.8199% / 0.01819865
56.0 Italian
27.2 Slav
12.0 Greek
3.4 Celt
1.4 Balkan
paradox
10-01-2023, 01:08 AM
Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 1.4803% / 0.01480332
54.0 Greek
21.0 Balkan
13.8 Celt
8.0 Slav
1.4 Bulgarian
1.0 Balt
0.8 Levant
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.0726% / 0.02072619
42.2 Balkan
38.6 Italian
9.8 Greek
5.6 Slav
2.8 Levant
1.0 Bulgarian
Annihilus
10-01-2023, 01:19 AM
Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 0.9791% / 0.00979120
49.6 Armenian
24.2 Slav
12.8 Greek
8.8 Bulgarian
4.6 Turkish
PaulieVanZant
10-01-2023, 01:25 AM
Target: Stahl
Distance: 1.4778% / 0.01477794
82.4 British_Irish
8.6 Slav
6.6 Balt
1.2 French
1.2 Greek
edit: Viking was - as expected - a game changer. Thanks Grace.
Target: Stahl
Distance: 1.2526% / 0.01252560
56.0 British_Irish
30.4 Viking
8.2 Slav
3.4 Balkan
1.6 Balkan_pre_Slavic
0.2 Balt
0.2 Bulgarian
DomitiusAurelian
10-01-2023, 01:27 AM
Brother are you sure you used the correct sample for the Turkish? Because it isn't Turkish, it's Armenian. It'll be much better if you use this.
Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG,0.084229,-0.006093,0,-0.01615,-0.041854,-0.011435,-0.004935,-0.001615,-0.008181,-0.011299,-0.011367,-0.003297,-0.008622,-0.001651,0.004343,-0.00053,0.009257,-0.00266,0.002765,-0.01038,-0.006489,-0.000371,-0.007888,0.001205,0.002275
Target: Domitius_scaled
Distance: 1.9580% / 0.01957994
38.4 Ottoman_Turk
35.2 Greek
24.4 Armenian
2.0 Levant
Dušan
10-01-2023, 01:33 AM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.4134% / 0.02413421
32.0 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
32.0 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
31.6 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
3.0 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
1.4 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.4180% / 0.02418011 | R3P
33.6 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
33.2 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
33.2 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
Target: Alex_scaled
Distance: 2.3606% / 0.02360579
54.0 Balt
30.0 Slav
16.0 Bulgarian
Annihilus
10-01-2023, 02:18 AM
Brother are you sure you used the correct sample for the Turkish? Because it isn't Turkish, it's Armenian. It'll be much better if you use this.
Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG,0.084229,-0.006093,0,-0.01615,-0.041854,-0.011435,-0.004935,-0.001615,-0.008181,-0.011299,-0.011367,-0.003297,-0.008622,-0.001651,0.004343,-0.00053,0.009257,-0.00266,0.002765,-0.01038,-0.006489,-0.000371,-0.007888,0.001205,0.002275
Target: Domitius_scaled
Distance: 1.9580% / 0.01957994
38.4 Ottoman_Turk
35.2 Greek
24.4 Armenian
2.0 Levant
with your suggestion:
Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 0.9114% / 0.00911368
48.2 Armenian
22.4 Slav
19.0 Greek
5.4 Ottoman_Turk
5.0 Balkan
DomitiusAurelian
10-01-2023, 02:40 AM
with your suggestion:
Target: annihilus_g25_sim
Distance: 0.9114% / 0.00911368
48.2 Armenian
22.4 Slav
19.0 Greek
5.4 Ottoman_Turk
5.0 Balkan
Hocam sen Balkan Türküsün sanırım
Far_away
10-01-2023, 05:48 AM
Distance: 2.6552% / 0.02655226
42.4 Slav
32.4 Greek
14.0 Celt
11.2 French
Katarzyna
10-01-2023, 06:24 AM
Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 1.3137% / 0.01313662
41.0 Slav
38.4 Balt
8.4 British_Irish
7.2 French
4.8 Balkan
0.2 Celt
Impaler
10-01-2023, 06:41 AM
Target: Impaler
Distance: 2.5675% / 0.02567492
30.2 Greek
23.4 Bulgarian
17.4 Germanic
10.4 Balt
9.6 Persian
5.4 Slav
2.4 Turkish
1.2 Berber
Target: Father
Distance: 4.1064% / 0.04106357
36.4 Persian
29.6 Bulgarian
29.0 Celt
4.8 Levant
0.2 Turkish
Voskos
10-01-2023, 08:29 AM
Brother are you sure you used the correct sample for the Turkish? Because it isn't Turkish
I thought it was East Eurasian-admixed, looks like it's not, my bad.
noricum
10-01-2023, 08:51 AM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.8134% / 0.01813356
52.6 Balkan
27.6 Celt
9.4 Italian
5.8 French
4.6 British_Irish
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.8134% / 0.01813356
52.6 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
27.6 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
9.4 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
5.8 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
4.6 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
Vitez
10-01-2023, 08:59 AM
Target: Vitez_newg25
Distance: 0.0110% / 0.01098915
32.2 Slav
19.9 Italian
16.5 Balt
13.0 Celt
7.5 Greek
6.5 British_Irish
4.4 Bulgarian
retfala
10-01-2023, 09:42 AM
Target: retfala_scaled
Distance: 1.2425% / 0.01242530
37.4 Slav
30.0 Italian
13.8 Celt
9.8 Balt
4.6 Balkan
3.2 Greek
1.2 Bulgarian
Distance to: retfala_scaled
0.04217744 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.04863043 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
0.05328572 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.06263878 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
0.06303684 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
0.06587700 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
0.07870655 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
0.08221166 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.09643048 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.13011166 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
0.15251798 Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval
0.15618003 Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic
0.16436519 Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval
0.16441758 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
0.25110123 Berber:Mozabite
Grace O'Malley
10-01-2023, 09:50 AM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8368% / 0.01836783
99.0 British_Irish
1.0 Balt
There needs to be some Viking or Scandinavian added to this.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8026% / 0.01802632
88.0 British_Irish
12.0 Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
DNAcapo
10-01-2023, 10:21 AM
a lot of balkan
https://i.ibb.co/nBpSbrw/Nov-projekt-1.png
Voskos
10-01-2023, 10:37 AM
Updated with Ottoman, Viking and Iberian source.
true_southron
10-01-2023, 10:44 AM
Updated with Ottoman, Viking and Iberian source.
Insignificant changes for me. A little bit less Italian and Slav, a bit more Celt and Greek
Target: true_southron_scaled
Distance: 1.8201% / 0.01820074
55.0 Italian
26.6 Slav
12.6 Greek
4.0 Celt
1.8 Balkan
Beowulf
10-01-2023, 10:48 AM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0137% / 0.01374509
52.8 Iberian
27.1 Viking
14.2 Italian
3.2 Slav
2.7 Greek
Distance to: Beowulf_Scaled
0.01705595 25.20% Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG + 74.80% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.01839394 27.00% British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval + 73.00% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.01962149 26.00% Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval + 74.00% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.01972106 14.20% Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG + 85.80% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.01998531 19.00% Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG + 81.00% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
Graham
10-01-2023, 10:49 AM
Target: Graham_scaled
Distance: 2.1747% / 0.02174663
89.2 British_Irish
7.2 Germanic
2.2 Italian
1.4 Viking
Graham
10-01-2023, 10:54 AM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8368% / 0.01836783
99.0 British_Irish
1.0 Balt
There needs to be some Viking or Scandinavian added to this.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8026% / 0.01802632
88.0 British_Irish
12.0 Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
Depending on what dates some of that English Medieval could have Anglo Saxon in it. Worth Matravers from Dorset, England(Britonic) and the Irish kilteasheen(Gaelic) would be the best middle ages DNA to use, post Germanic.
Vid Flumina
10-01-2023, 11:10 AM
Target: VFlumina_scaled
Distance: 3.2292% / 0.03229236
40.6 Viking
33.4 Greek
16.6 Iberian
9.4 French
Beowulf
10-01-2023, 11:11 AM
Depending on what dates some of that English Medieval could have Anglo Saxon in it. Worth Matravers from Dorset, England(Britonic) and the Irish kilteasheen(Gaelic) would be the best middle ages DNA to use, post Germanic.
Seems to maybe be the case with the medieval England sample:
Target: British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
Distance: 0.4687% / 0.00468717
69.0 Celtic
31.0 Anglo-Saxon
https://www.exploreyourdna.com/calculateur/131/g25-british-isles-calculator.htm
Graham
10-01-2023, 11:17 AM
England & Wales
https://i.ibb.co/7zRspqv/image.png
Scotland
https://i.ibb.co/SJ9h2ZM/image.png
mariusz99
10-01-2023, 11:27 AM
Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 1.7229% / 0.01722907 | ADC: 0.5x RC
47.2 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
28.0 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
14.6 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
10.2 Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
Catnip
10-01-2023, 12:28 PM
Target: Catnip
Distance: 0.8792% / 0.00879215
25.2 British_Irish
21.8 Italian
21.6 Iberian
17.8 Viking
9.4 Balkan
4.2 Slav
Distance to: Catnip
0.03939020 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.04231389 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
0.04365024 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
0.04468097 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
0.04777388 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.05474686 Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
0.07035426 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.07316453 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.07495483 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
0.08537492 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
0.11068152 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.12956366 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
0.15300999 Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval
0.16031420 Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic
0.16455024 Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval
0.16559155 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
0.18755166 Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG
0.24568220 Berber:Mozabite
Beowulf
10-01-2023, 01:20 PM
Mother:
Target: Mama_Scaled
Distance: 0.0092% / 0.00924113
33.3 Iberian
23.8 Celt
14.7 Viking
11.9 British_Irish
9.4 French
3.4 Greek
3.1 Armenian
0.4 Ottoman_Turk
Distance to: Mama_Scaled
0.01496157 47.80% British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval + 52.20% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.01537498 42.40% Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG + 57.60% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.01945347 46.00% Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval + 54.00% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.01967977 55.80% Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG + 44.20% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.01989478 42.40% Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval + 57.60% Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
Father:
Target: Papa_Scaled
Distance: 0.0205% / 0.02054275
93.0 Iberian
7.0 Viking
Distance to: Papa_Scaled
0.02054275 7.00% Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG + 93.00% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.02073515 8.20% French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG + 91.80% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.02086973 8.00% Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG + 92.00% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.02104954 5.60% British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval + 94.40% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.02134618 3.80% Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval + 96.20% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
Grandmother:
Target: Abuela_Scaled
Distance: 0.0071% / 0.00709555
35.5 Iberian
17.4 Italian
11.2 Viking
10.5 Celt
8.3 Slav
6.9 Balkan
6.5 French
3.7 Berber
Distance to: Abuela_Scaled
0.01305502 26.80% Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG + 73.20% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.01482440 26.80% Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval + 73.20% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.01620964 18.80% Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG + 81.20% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.01839645 58.00% Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG + 42.00% Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.01886155 39.20% Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG + 60.80% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
Grandfather:
Target: Abuelo_Scaled
Distance: 0.0175% / 0.01748574
29.2 Celt
24.0 British_Irish
22.1 Iberian
10.0 Viking
9.4 French
5.3 Armenian
Distance to: Abuelo_Scaled
0.02143753 59.80% British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval + 40.20% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.02349181 52.20% Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG + 47.80% Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.02491249 72.20% British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval + 27.80% Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.02626264 34.80% Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval + 65.20% Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
0.02679929 45.40% French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG + 54.60% Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
noricum
10-01-2023, 01:33 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.8134% / 0.01813356
52.6 Balkan
27.6 Celt
9.4 Italian
5.8 French
4.6 British_Irish
Running the all samples with*Aggregated G25 modern averages (scaled) shows that the Balkan sample might be a good "proto-South Slavic" sample but otherwise has no Balkan influence.
Distance to: Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.02854812 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.03060879 Ukrainian_Crimea
0.03122656 Cossack_Ukrainian_Dnipropetrovsk
0.03173185 Ukrainian_Zaporizhzhia
0.03218615 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.03312400 Ukrainian_Kharkiv
0.03333932 Ukrainian
0.03378534 Croat_North
0.03414502 Ukrainian_Donetsk
0.03432099 Polish
0.03500256 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.03624666 Russian_Orel
0.03682668 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03682862 Ukrainian_Poltava
0.03688700 Polish_Kashubian
0.03727250 Ukrainian_Pontic
0.03734860 Russian_Smolensk
0.03747842 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.03775290 Ukrainian_Volyn
0.03819716 Czech
0.03827041 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.03881000 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.03900682 German_East
0.03918238 Russian_Voronezh
0.03982642 Slovenian
Distance to: Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.03254976 Austrian
0.03278135 German_Erlangen
0.03351972 German
0.03500358 German_East
0.03551080 Slovenian
0.03768733 Hungarian
0.03787801 German_Hamburg
0.03794022 French_Alsace
0.03848424 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03906775 BelgianA
0.03908470 French_Nord
0.03944620 Czech
0.04058331 BelgianB
0.04105782 BelgianC
0.04159585 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04199093 Croat_North
0.04220573 Swiss_German
0.04276180 French_Brittany
0.04318423 French
0.04332645 Afrikaner
0.04346622 French_Occitanie
0.04417950 Dutch
0.04433722 Welsh
0.04438119 French_Paris
0.04583240 English
Distance to: Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.01560592 Italian_Marche
0.01605123 Italian_Umbria
0.01742993 Italian_Tuscany
0.01836441 Italian_Lazio
0.02084763 Italian_Molise
0.02134783 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02329388 Sicilian_West
0.02340481 Italian_Emilia
0.02541219 Sicilian_West_Trapani
0.02550940 Greek_Thessaly
0.02582038 Italian_Apulia
0.02643543 Sicilian_East_Syracuse
0.02674395 Sicilian_East
0.02675087 Greek_East_Taygetos
0.02749438 Greek_North_Tsakonia
0.02753904 Greek_Messenia
0.02792546 Greek_Laconia
0.02814038 Italian_Basilicata
0.02818252 French_Corsica
0.02861661 Greek_Elis
0.02862793 Greek_Arcadia
0.02868731 Italian_Piedmont
0.02876754 Greek_Achaea
0.02882927 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02924706 Greek_West_Taygetos
Distance to: French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
0.02567214 Welsh
0.02719479 French_Brittany
0.02801164 English_Cornwall
0.02825413 English
0.02989159 Dutch
0.02998387 Orcadian
0.03038680 Scottish
0.03176230 Irish
0.03394339 Norwegian
0.03396947 Afrikaner
0.03413215 Danish
0.03413683 BelgianA
0.03454468 BelgianB
0.03546469 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03578284 French_Nord
0.03589492 French_Paris
0.03608840 German
0.03659230 BelgianC
0.03675076 Shetlandic
0.03704168 Icelandic
0.03989276 French
0.04011256 French_Alsace
0.04040222 Swiss_German
0.04042104 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04096807 German_Hamburg
Distance to: British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
0.01134746 Scottish
0.01169210 Norwegian
0.01180616 Orcadian
0.01201014 Danish
0.01326606 Welsh
0.01332820 Irish
0.01355518 Dutch
0.01374703 English
0.01504395 Icelandic
0.01679428 English_Cornwall
0.01831775 Shetlandic
0.01944989 French_Brittany
0.02400830 Swedish
0.02505901 German
0.02519408 German_Hamburg
0.02691503 Afrikaner
0.02918828 BelgianA
0.03209959 German_Erlangen
0.03323332 BelgianB
0.03438453 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03643057 French_Nord
0.03719387 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03813215 German_East
0.03869121 BelgianC
0.04006022 Austrian
oszkar07
10-01-2023, 01:39 PM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.0646% / 0.02064605
34.0 Balkan
32.0 British_Irish
20.4 Celt
7.0 Bulgarian
6.6 Italian
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.0646% / 0.02064605
34.0 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
32.0 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
20.4 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
7.0 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
6.6 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
cakmir7y
10-01-2023, 03:19 PM
Target: cakmir7y_scaled
Distance: 1.6969% / 0.01696922
47.2 Slav
36.4 Viking
5.2 Celt
4.4 French
3.0 Bulgarian
3.0 Iberian
0.8 Levant
Distance to: cakmir7y_scaled
0.04065581 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
0.04088373 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.04421108 Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
0.04793267 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
0.05144421 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.05260607 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
0.05722569 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
0.07071962 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.08951333 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.09292510 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
0.11340266 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.16230531 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
0.17977667 Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval
0.18027180 Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic
0.19107476 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
0.19407295 Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval
0.19521323 Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG
0.27024130 Berber:Mozabite
Demirkazık
10-01-2023, 03:24 PM
Target: Demirkazık_scaled
Distance: 2.3659% / 0.02365933
52.2 Ottoman_Turk
23.8 Greek
8.6 Slav
7.8 Persian
7.6 Levant
Voskos
10-01-2023, 03:27 PM
Running the all samples with*Aggregated G25 modern averages (scaled) shows that the Balkan sample might be a good "proto-South Slavic" sample but otherwise has no Balkan influence.
Distance to: Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.02854812 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.03060879 Ukrainian_Crimea
0.03122656 Cossack_Ukrainian_Dnipropetrovsk
0.03173185 Ukrainian_Zaporizhzhia
0.03218615 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.03312400 Ukrainian_Kharkiv
0.03333932 Ukrainian
0.03378534 Croat_North
0.03414502 Ukrainian_Donetsk
0.03432099 Polish
0.03500256 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.03624666 Russian_Orel
0.03682668 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03682862 Ukrainian_Poltava
0.03688700 Polish_Kashubian
0.03727250 Ukrainian_Pontic
0.03734860 Russian_Smolensk
0.03747842 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.03775290 Ukrainian_Volyn
0.03819716 Czech
0.03827041 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.03881000 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.03900682 German_East
0.03918238 Russian_Voronezh
0.03982642 Slovenian
Distance to: Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.03254976 Austrian
0.03278135 German_Erlangen
0.03351972 German
0.03500358 German_East
0.03551080 Slovenian
0.03768733 Hungarian
0.03787801 German_Hamburg
0.03794022 French_Alsace
0.03848424 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03906775 BelgianA
0.03908470 French_Nord
0.03944620 Czech
0.04058331 BelgianB
0.04105782 BelgianC
0.04159585 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04199093 Croat_North
0.04220573 Swiss_German
0.04276180 French_Brittany
0.04318423 French
0.04332645 Afrikaner
0.04346622 French_Occitanie
0.04417950 Dutch
0.04433722 Welsh
0.04438119 French_Paris
0.04583240 English
Distance to: Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.01560592 Italian_Marche
0.01605123 Italian_Umbria
0.01742993 Italian_Tuscany
0.01836441 Italian_Lazio
0.02084763 Italian_Molise
0.02134783 Italian_Abruzzo
0.02329388 Sicilian_West
0.02340481 Italian_Emilia
0.02541219 Sicilian_West_Trapani
0.02550940 Greek_Thessaly
0.02582038 Italian_Apulia
0.02643543 Sicilian_East_Syracuse
0.02674395 Sicilian_East
0.02675087 Greek_East_Taygetos
0.02749438 Greek_North_Tsakonia
0.02753904 Greek_Messenia
0.02792546 Greek_Laconia
0.02814038 Italian_Basilicata
0.02818252 French_Corsica
0.02861661 Greek_Elis
0.02862793 Greek_Arcadia
0.02868731 Italian_Piedmont
0.02876754 Greek_Achaea
0.02882927 Greek_Peloponnese
0.02924706 Greek_West_Taygetos
Distance to: French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
0.02567214 Welsh
0.02719479 French_Brittany
0.02801164 English_Cornwall
0.02825413 English
0.02989159 Dutch
0.02998387 Orcadian
0.03038680 Scottish
0.03176230 Irish
0.03394339 Norwegian
0.03396947 Afrikaner
0.03413215 Danish
0.03413683 BelgianA
0.03454468 BelgianB
0.03546469 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03578284 French_Nord
0.03589492 French_Paris
0.03608840 German
0.03659230 BelgianC
0.03675076 Shetlandic
0.03704168 Icelandic
0.03989276 French
0.04011256 French_Alsace
0.04040222 Swiss_German
0.04042104 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04096807 German_Hamburg
Distance to: British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
0.01134746 Scottish
0.01169210 Norwegian
0.01180616 Orcadian
0.01201014 Danish
0.01326606 Welsh
0.01332820 Irish
0.01355518 Dutch
0.01374703 English
0.01504395 Icelandic
0.01679428 English_Cornwall
0.01831775 Shetlandic
0.01944989 French_Brittany
0.02400830 Swedish
0.02505901 German
0.02519408 German_Hamburg
0.02691503 Afrikaner
0.02918828 BelgianA
0.03209959 German_Erlangen
0.03323332 BelgianB
0.03438453 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03643057 French_Nord
0.03719387 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03813215 German_East
0.03869121 BelgianC
0.04006022 Austrian
alright, point taken.I added a pre-slavic balkan sample from Croatia.
Nurzat
10-01-2023, 03:55 PM
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.6047% / 0.01604650
34.4 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
23.6 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
18.8 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
15.8 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
3.4 Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG
3.0 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
0.4 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
0.4 Viking: Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
0.2 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 1.7544% / 0.01754423
31.6 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
16.4 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
14.4 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
13.8 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
8.2 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
6.2 Viking: Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
6.2 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
3.2 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
Far_away
10-01-2023, 03:58 PM
Viking hahahahaahah
Distance: 2.4866% / 0.02486562
42.4 Slav
24.0 Balkan_pre_Slavic
19.0 Greek
14.6 Viking
Eurafricanid
10-01-2023, 04:19 PM
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.9334% / 0.01933357
57.6 Iberian
19.9 Balkan_pre_Slavic
10.0 Italian
9.8 French
1.1 Viking
0.9 Celt
0.7 Levant
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.9356% / 0.01935581 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.2 Iberian
20.7 Balkan_pre_Slavic
11.5 French
10.6 Italian
REDUCE - 4 POPULATIONS is also the same as this one ^^
retfala
10-01-2023, 04:20 PM
Target: retfala_scaled
Distance: 1.2425% / 0.01242530
37.4 Slav
30.0 Italian
13.8 Celt
9.8 Balt
4.6 Balkan
3.2 Greek
1.2 Bulgarian
with new samples added:
Target: retfala_scaled
Distance: 1.0626% / 0.01062600
37.6 Slav
32.4 Balkan_pre_Slavic
16.4 Balt
11.4 Iberian
0.8 Balkan
0.8 Italian
0.6 Bulgarian
retfala
10-01-2023, 04:21 PM
Viking hahahahaahah
Distance: 2.4866% / 0.02486562
42.4 Slav
24.0 Balkan_pre_Slavic
19.0 Greek
14.6 Viking
Hail Ragnar Lothbrok !
Grace O'Malley
10-01-2023, 04:36 PM
Depending on what dates some of that English Medieval could have Anglo Saxon in it. Worth Matravers from Dorset, England(Britonic) and the Irish kilteasheen(Gaelic) would be the best middle ages DNA to use, post Germanic.
I've substituted the English sample for Kilteasheen.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8783% / 0.01878335
73.6 Gael
22.8 Viking
2.2 Balt
1.4 French
Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval,0.1149613, 0.1308678,0.0597863,0.0498712,0.0412179,0.0194665, 0.0003133,0.0077997,0.0043769,-0.0010813,-0.0053481,0.0055251,-0.0099207,-0.0101565,0.0228914,0.0085654,-0.0055283,0.000228,0.0054303,0.0046105,0.0089509,0 .0057046,0.0004684,0.0145241,0.0014449
Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia,0.10927,0.07 2103,0.042992,0.010982,0.008001,-0.000837,0.00705,0.003692,-0.000205,0.002187,-0.001137,0.005245,0.001635,0.004404,-0.004614,-0.013524,-0.014603,0.003927,0.003645,0.006003,-0.012353,0.000866,-0.000986,-0.001687,0.001317
Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval,0.093335,0.135065,-0.061471,-0.062662,-0.024312,-0.024821,0.004935,-0.010384,-0.019634,-0.001458,0.007795,0.005845,-0.001487,0.001101,-0.002036,0.004906,0.004172,0.007981,0.002137,-0.006503,-0.000998,0.006554,-0.003574,-0.001205,0.000479
Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG,0.127482,0.126941,0.06184 8,0.054264,0.03693,0.01757,0.00611,0.01523,-0.004909,-0.017495,0.001786,-0.008393,0.016353,0.023946,-0.018187,-0.000398,0.011213,-0.007095,0.000754,0.003126,-0.007487,-0.013354,0.011092,-0.00494,0.003113
French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG,0.127482,0.138112,0.059962,0.045866,0.04339 3,0.010877,0.003525,0.005307,0.016566,0.010205,0.0 00974,0.013788,-0.01442,-0.011423,0.02918,0.011138,-0.000522,0.004814,0.009176,0.003627,0.004243,0.006 554,-0.002711,0.00012,0.002395
Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG,0.095611,0.12 3895,-0.059962,-0.063631,-0.023697,-0.017012,0.00282,-0.006,0.005113,-0.011299,0.006008,-0.014837,0.017245,0.003028,0.000814,0.008618,-0.022817,-0.005321,0.005656,0.004877,0.01148,0.001731,-0.002588,-0.001084,0.000479
Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG,0.129379,0.1188167,0.0900 063,0.088825,0.046265,0.0366277,0.011907,0.0137683 ,0.0036133,-0.03341,-0.010501,-0.013488,0.013627,0.028763,-0.0019907,0.01569,0.012169,-0.0046033,0.0024303,-0.002668,0.002953,8.23e-05,0.0062443,0.003213,-0.0014367
Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic,0.09675,0.109677,-0.051288,-0.028424,-0.047393,-0.002789,0.00094,-0.010153,-0.032315,-0.012939,0.008931,-0.007194,0.005946,0.005505,0.002036,-0.001989,-0.02021,-0.004561,0.00176,-0.010755,-0.005366,-0.000989,0.004437,-0.008555,0.004071
Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval,0.126344,0.13100 3,0.065242,0.05168,0.030775,0.02761,0.009635,0.009 692,-0.007363,-0.010752,-0.005846,-0.002248,0.004757,0.030552,-0.010858,-0.006099,-0.015255,-0.001394,0.006536,-0.009004,-0.008859,0.000124,0.015529,0.001325,0.002036
Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG, 0.1303275,0.1416665,0.0607165,0.039406,0.0486245,0 .012829,0.005405,0.0103845,0.013703,0.0118455,-0.0010555,0.0003745,0.0001485,0.005161,-0.001357,0.0016575,-0.0001955,0.000887,-0.002514,-0.002251,0.0108555,-0.0015455,-0.0071485,-0.0112665,0.0043105
Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval,0.105476,0.133034,-0.054054,-0.050065,-0.030159,-0.0073443,-0.0005483,-0.0070767,-0.0310873,-0.0059533,0.001949,0.0017987,-0.0071353,0.000413,0.0021263,-0.0034917,-0.0018253,0.002914,0.0038967,-0.0005837,0.0016637,-0.000371,-0.0008217,0.000281,0.0034723
Berber:Mozabite,-0.0649782,0.135551,-0.0032793,-0.0717622,0.0260249,-0.0328364,-0.0260656,0.0108257,0.0617306,0.0303463,0.0065097,-0.006366,0.021795,-0.0165685,0.0163159,-0.016176,-0.0027097,-0.0219282,-0.0435571,0.0082757,-0.0146263,-0.0367947,0.0246817,-0.0042277,0.0056594
Greek:Turkey_Byzantine,0.1023143,0.1475902,-0.0302536,-0.0595397,0.0003078,-0.0208239,-0.0007311,-0.0042819,-0.0064313,0.0158747,0.0028868,0.0025642,-0.0044102,0.0018657,-0.0118679,0.0026224,0.011836,-0.0010557,0.0040643,0.0017787,-0.0035908,0.0015389,-0.0008763,0.0013521,-0.0036989
Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval,0.109555 ,0.1457285,0.007165,-0.0260015,0.0251588,-0.0124805,0.00188,0.000346,0.007363,0.0222328,0.00 3329,0.0065565,-0.0124875,-0.0013418,-0.0007127,-0.0037458,-0.0011082,0.00019,0.0066305,-0.004002,-0.0005925,0.0059662,-0.003605,-0.0018378,0.0012275
Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG,0.084229,-0.006093,0,-0.01615,-0.041854,-0.011435,-0.004935,-0.001615,-0.008181,-0.011299,-0.011367,-0.003297,-0.008622,-0.001651,0.004343,-0.00053,0.009257,-0.00266,0.002765,-0.01038,-0.006489,-0.000371,-0.007888,0.001205,0.002275
Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG,0.135449,0.137096,0.07 5047,0.050711,0.048624,0.019243,0.002585,0.004384, 0.005727,-0.001458,-0.01153,-0.000749,-0.006095,-0.006193,0.020087,0.015778,0.006258,0.008108,-0.004274,0.008504,0.006239,0.003833,-0.001479,0.014339,0.008143
Iberian:Spain_Medieval,0.1154168,0.1421738,0.03567 54,-0.0032946,0.0360068,0.000223,-0.0048882,0.003323,0.0278562,0.0347706,-0.0040922,0.007763,-0.0126658,-0.009496,0.0049674,-0.0024128,0,-0.0054224,-0.0027654,-0.0037518,0.0046918,0.002869,-0.0021444,-0.0029642,2.4e-05
Gael:Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norm an,0.1265792,0.1315286,0.0600402,0.0508447,0.03682 38,0.0178875,0.000705,0.0048618,0.0043937,0.001143 8,-0.0062604,0.0071419,-0.0153941,-0.0164436,0.0252954,0.007832,-0.0080209,0.0015596,0.0018855,0.0036828,0.0051288, 0.0038034,0.0013388,0.0119334,-0.0005368
celticdragongod
10-01-2023, 04:45 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02146174 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
0.02879625 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
0.03684471 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
0.04049165 Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
0.05461277 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.06516001 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.07724522 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
0.08455735 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.09333490 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.09836069 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
0.11080827 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
0.11202801 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.16632732 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
0.18066982 Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval
0.18285202 Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic
0.19429061 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
0.19650894 Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval
0.20108569 Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG
0.27162539 Berber:Mozabite
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.9577% / 0.01957673
86.0 British_Irish
12.2 Balkan
1.8 Iberian
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.9577% / 0.01957673
86.0 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
12.2 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
1.8 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
Graham
10-01-2023, 04:46 PM
I've substituted the English sample for Kilteasheen.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8783% / 0.01878335
73.6 Gael
22.8 Viking
2.2 Balt
1.4 French
For you that makes sense to do, Just as for the English using the English medieval samples work. They say Irish are two way atm, mostly Gaelic-Viking. English are 3-way. Brittonic-Saxon-French related. So you need those bespoke calculators, using your own populations.
celticdragongod
10-01-2023, 04:48 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02198223 Gael:Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norm an
0.02879625 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
0.03684471 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
0.04049165 Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
0.05461277 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.06516001 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.07724522 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
0.08455735 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.09333490 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.09836069 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
0.11202801 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.16632732 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
0.18066982 Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval
0.18285202 Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic
0.19429061 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
0.19650894 Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval
0.20108569 Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG
0.27162539 Berber:Mozabite
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8505% / 0.01850537
80.6 Gael
16.0 Balkan
3.4 French
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.8505% / 0.01850537
80.6 Gael:Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norm an
16.0 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
3.4 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
Voskos
10-01-2023, 04:58 PM
My slavic is always misread as Germanic/Viking and/or Celtic . It sort of makes sense because they're Russians (Rus = Vikings) and South Slavs from Central Europe (therefore part celtic) who settled in Crete
Target:
Chebyshev distance: 0.8536% / 0.00853570
34.6 Balkan_pre_Slavic
27.8 Greek
8.2 Viking
7.0 Berber
6.2 Armenian
6.0 Levant
5.6 Italian
3.8 Celt
0.8 Turkish
Dušan
10-01-2023, 05:33 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.4134% / 0.02413421
32.0 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
32.0 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
31.6 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
3.0 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
1.4 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.4180% / 0.02418011 | R3P
33.6 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
33.2 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
33.2 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
Lost Italian component, with added pre-Slavic Balkan sample
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.2550% / 0.02254973
33.4 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
30.8 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
30.8 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
3.2 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
1.8 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
true_southron
10-01-2023, 05:43 PM
With the pre-Slav Balkan, I got twice as less Italian component:
Target: true_southron_scaled
Distance: 1.6813% / 0.01681257
36.2 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
28.8 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
28.2 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
6.8 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
But lost Celts and Balkan (Bosnia) and decreased Greece
Speed
10-01-2023, 06:04 PM
Target: Albanian_Dardania
Distance: 1.4048% / 0.01404820
53.4 Balkan_pre_Slavic
12.2 Italian
11.8 Slav
7.4 Iberian
6.2 Greek
3.8 Balt
2.6 Balkan
2.6 Celt
Distance to: Albanian_Dardania
0.02987509 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
0.03368952 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.04660308 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.07573408 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.08404938 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
0.08831660 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
0.08935444 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
0.09254575 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
0.09257881 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
0.09799936 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.09960640 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
0.10186493 Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
0.11570106 Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval
0.12409936 Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval
0.13061527 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
0.13076712 Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic
0.14822396 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.17723673 Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG
0.23196162 Berber:Mozabite
More interested in Y-DNA but these are my results anyway.
alexmegas777
10-01-2023, 06:11 PM
Distance to: alexmegas_scaled
0.05244017 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.05558306 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
0.05944169 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.06048923 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.07706657 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
0.07854423 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
0.07870003 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.07870029 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
0.07958982 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
0.08164107 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
0.08568963 Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
0.10578221 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
0.12795092 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.13220975 Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval
0.14128621 Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic
0.14309651 Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval
0.14544003 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
0.17982914 Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG
0.24066154 Berber:Mozabite
Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.3313% / 0.02331287 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.4 Balkan_pre_Slavic
32.0 Slav
19.0 Iberian
4.6 Balkan
true_southron
10-01-2023, 06:37 PM
Target: Albanian_Dardania
Distance: 1.4048% / 0.01404820
53.4 Balkan_pre_Slavic
12.2 Italian
11.8 Slav
7.4 Iberian
6.2 Greek
3.8 Balt
2.6 Balkan
2.6 Celt
Distance to: Albanian_Dardania
0.02987509 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
0.03368952 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.04660308 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.07573408 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.08404938 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
0.08831660 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
0.08935444 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
0.09254575 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
0.09257881 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
0.09799936 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.09960640 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
0.10186493 Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
0.11570106 Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval
0.12409936 Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval
0.13061527 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
0.13076712 Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic
0.14822396 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.17723673 Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG
0.23196162 Berber:Mozabite
More interested in Y-DNA but these are my results anyway.
Its interesting you got just 12% Italy. I was expecting between 20-25% from Albanian
Speed
10-02-2023, 12:24 AM
Insignificant changes for me. A little bit less Italian and Slav, a bit more Celt and Greek
Target: true_southron_scaled
Distance: 1.8201% / 0.01820074
55.0 Italian
26.6 Slav
12.6 Greek
4.0 Celt
1.8 Balkan
You are more Native Balkan than Slavic. :D Do you happen to be E-V13 too ?
Herman
10-02-2023, 01:11 AM
Target: Herman_scaled
Distance: 1.5929% / 0.01592888
32.0 Iberian
24.8 Viking
16.0 British_Irish
10.2 Germanic
6.2 Greek
5.2 Quechua
4.4 Berber
1.2 Balkan_pre_Slavic
vader
10-02-2023, 03:10 AM
Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 2.4505% / 0.02450480
71.8 Iberian
11.4 Berber
7.4 Celt
5.4 British_Irish
4.0 Balkan
Target: Luso_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.9979% / 0.01997866
75.2 Iberian
10.2 British_Irish
9.0 Berber
5.6 Viking
Target: Luso_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3325% / 0.02332533
68.4 Iberian
12.8 Balkan
10.6 Berber
4.8 French
1.8 Italian
1.6 Bulgarian
yngviktor
10-02-2023, 03:28 PM
Target: Viktor
Distance: 1.2350% / 0.01235027
36.4 Slav
19.6 Celt
18.2 Balkan_pre_Slavic
12.6 Greek
12.2 Balkan
1.0 Balt
JerryS.
10-02-2023, 03:30 PM
Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7346% / 0.01734593
51.0 British_Irish
17.8 Germanic
16.4 Viking
7.2 Balkan_pre_Slavic
5.8 Greek
1.2 French
0.6 Slav
Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7485% / 0.01748465 | R4P
58.6 British_Irish
16.6 Viking
14.2 Germanic
10.6 Greek
WeirdLookingFellow
10-02-2023, 05:59 PM
Target: Fellow_scaled
Distance: 1.6703% / 0.01670267
53.4 Balkan_pre_Slavic
34.2 Balt
6.6 Bulgarian
3.0 Greek
2.0 Balkan
0.8 Berber
Target: 23andme_simulated_g25_scaled (more accurate but I have no Iberian, seems it mixed around balkan with iberian)
Distance: 1.7164% / 0.01716421
46.0 Slav
31.2 Balkan_pre_Slavic
15.8 Iberian
3.8 Bulgarian
3.2 Greek
Distance to: 23andme_simulated_g25_scaled
0.05386575 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.05929502 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.06453766 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
0.06496381 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
0.06827996 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.06877479 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.07578766 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
0.07774169 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
0.07783674 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
0.07874890 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
0.08399102 Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
0.11495256 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
0.11526432 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.14142112 Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval
0.14628032 Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic
0.15098719 Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval
0.15230107 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
0.17544224 Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG
0.23918346 Berber:Mozabite
Hapanuwa
10-04-2023, 03:58 AM
Target: Hapanuwa_scaled
Distance: 0.0268% / 0.02675679 | ADC: 0.25x RC
29.6 Greek
29.0 Ottoman_Turk
19.9 Bulgarian
10.5 Turkish
8.2 Levant
2.8 Armenian
Tie red
10-04-2023, 06:08 AM
Mom serbian
Target: Mira_scaled
Distance: 1.7458% / 0.01745772 | ADC: 0.5x RC
43.2 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
38.8 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
11.2 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
6.8 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
Dad flemish
Target: Pascal_scaled
Distance: 1.2864% / 0.01286356 | ADC: 0.5x RC
72.8 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
9.0 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
6.8 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
6.0 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
5.4 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
Me
Target: Q_S_scaled
Distance: 1.4563% / 0.01456279 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.0 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
24.6 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
19.2 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
11.2 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
4.0 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
2.0 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
paradox
10-04-2023, 07:03 AM
Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 1.4803% / 0.01480332
54.0 Greek
21.0 Balkan
13.8 Celt
8.0 Slav
1.4 Bulgarian
1.0 Balt
0.8 Levant
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.0726% / 0.02072619
42.2 Balkan
38.6 Italian
9.8 Greek
5.6 Slav
2.8 Levant
1.0 Bulgarian
With added references
Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 1.5103% / 0.01510330 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.8 Greek
22.6 Balkan_pre_Slavic
19.4 Slav
16.8 Balkan
4.4 Levant
Target: paradox_scaled
Distance: 1.4606% / 0.01460591
47.4 Greek
18.6 Balkan
10.2 Slav
10.0 Celt
9.2 Balkan_pre_Slavic
1.8 Balt
1.4 Levant
1.4 Ottoman_Turk
------
Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 1.8269% / 0.01826868
47.0 Balkan_pre_Slavic
38.0 Balkan
7.8 Levant
7.0 Slav
0.2 Bulgarian
Nurzat
10-04-2023, 07:03 AM
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 2.1033% / 0.02103323 | R4P
53.4 Slav
20.6 Greek
18.4 Gael
7.6 Celt
Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 2.6066% / 0.02606568 | R4P
59.4 Slav
20.6 Viking
14.2 Levant
5.8 Celt
Target: Nurzat_mom_phased_sim
Distance: 1.9478% / 0.01947767 | R4P
46.2 Slav
21.8 Viking
21.4 Greek
10.6 Celt
Petalpusher
10-04-2023, 07:43 AM
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 3.2074% / 0.03207439
32.4 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
22.4 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
21.4 Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
12.8 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
6.2 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
4.8 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
Distance to: Petalpusher
0.04065319 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
0.04410100 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
0.04570267 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
0.05149308 Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
0.05666519 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
0.07590784 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
0.08020078 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.08692353 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
0.09443607 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
0.09793543 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
0.10276430 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
0.11492888 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
0.15496361 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
0.17880960 Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval
0.18853807 Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic
0.19168853 Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval
0.19402596 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
0.21889903 Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG
0.27986859 Berber:Mozabite
hazmatnik
10-04-2023, 08:16 AM
Target: Nikola_scaled
Distance: 2.7809% / 0.02780904
34.0 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
31.0 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
20.8 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
8.2 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
6.0 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
MandM
10-04-2023, 08:57 AM
Target: Milenko
Distance: 2.8357% / 0.02835709 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.2 Balkan_pre_Slavic
39.8 Slav
1.0 Bulgarian
Pedro Ruben
10-04-2023, 12:07 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.9318% / 0.01931772
49.8 Iberian
22.6 British_Irish
16.8 Berber
6.0 Balkan
4.8 Italian
Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 2.3033% / 0.02303305
49.4 Iberian
20.4 Berber
9.6 Celt
6.8 British_Irish
6.2 Balkan
5.2 French
2.4 Bulgarian
Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 2.1396% / 0.02139564
47.8 Iberian
36.0 French
12.6 Berber
3.6 Balkan_pre_Slavic
ZeDude
10-04-2023, 12:22 PM
Target: ZeDude
Distance: 2.0588% / 0.02058827
33.0 Slav
32.6 Balkan_pre_Slavic
24.8 Greek
5.6 Balt
2.2 Viking
1.2 French
0.6 Iberian
vader
10-04-2023, 02:57 PM
Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 2.4505% / 0.02450480
71.8 Iberian
11.4 Berber
7.4 Celt
5.4 British_Irish
4.0 Balkan
Target: Luso_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.9979% / 0.01997866
75.2 Iberian
10.2 British_Irish
9.0 Berber
5.6 Viking
Target: Luso_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3326% / 0.02332637
67.8 Iberian
12.8 Balkan
10.8 Berber
5.2 French
2.0 Italian
1.4 Bulgarian
Bessarion
10-05-2023, 06:24 PM
Target: Bojan_scaled
Distance: 2.2007% / 0.02200734
20.6 Viking
19.0 Slav
16.8 Celt
10.0 Balkan
9.6 Balkan_pre_Slavic
8.6 Bulgarian
8.0 Armenian
4.8 Balt
2.6 Levant
Now, it really becomes like some astrology (no offence).
PT Tagus
10-05-2023, 06:30 PM
Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 2.1460% / 0.02145956
53.8 Iberian
16.8 Germanic
13.2 Berber
9.0 Italian
6.8 Balkan_pre_Slavic
0.4 Celt
Ritz06
10-06-2023, 08:36 PM
Target:
Distance: 1.8245% / 0.01824479
38.4 British_Irish
24.2 Armenian
16.2 Ottoman_Turk
10.6 Persian
8.0 Viking
2.4 Balkan
0.2 Balt
Polak
10-06-2023, 09:33 PM
Target: Polak_scaled
Distance: 3.0868% / 0.03086814
50.6 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
40.2 Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG
9.0 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
0.2 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
I don't think the distance is very good for me.
Solitude
10-18-2023, 07:13 PM
Viking hahahahaahah
Distance: 2.4866% / 0.02486562
42.4 Slav
24.0 Balkan_pre_Slavic
19.0 Greek
14.6 Viking
why people sometimes get viking in this calc? what that means?
Solitude
10-18-2023, 07:13 PM
Hail Ragnar Lothbrok !
why people sometimes get viking in this calc? what that means?
Far_away
10-26-2023, 03:34 AM
why people sometimes get viking in this calc? what that means?
i get it because i'm Ragnar idk about others
TimTheEnchanter
10-26-2023, 04:12 AM
Target: Tim_scaled
Distance: 2.2639% / 0.02263902 | R5P
34.4 Viking: Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
25.2 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
18.8 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
16.4 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
5.2 Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG
tweaked :
Target: Tim_scaled
Distance: 2.1999% / 0.02199925 | ADC: 0.25x RC
30.2 Viking: Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
26.2 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
24.2 Norse_Atlantic_MA (Norway)
14.8 French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG
4.6 Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG
^We wuz Turkish kangz or emeperorz and shiznit lulz
TimTheEnchanter
10-26-2023, 04:16 AM
i get it because i'm Ragnar idk about others
I read it as Angle as in Angleland or England but maybe I shouldn't since it seems to be an outlier sample but I don't feel like checking it.
https://i.ibb.co/0hrWMq2/Vahaduo-Global-25-Europe-1-PCA-8.png (https://ibb.co/wM4bWyg)
https://i.ibb.co/YbkG6wt/Vahaduo-Global-25-North-Europe-PCA-27.png (https://ibb.co/ZN8C37h)
The alleged Balkan sample is in fact close to contemporary Southern Pole/Ukrainian/Sorb. Further evidence of migration from the north.
https://i.ibb.co/0hrWMq2/Vahaduo-Global-25-Europe-1-PCA-8.png (https://ibb.co/wM4bWyg)
https://i.ibb.co/YbkG6wt/Vahaduo-Global-25-North-Europe-PCA-27.png (https://ibb.co/ZN8C37h)
The alleged Balkan sample is in fact close to contemporary Southern Pole/Ukrainian/Sorb. Further evidence of migration from the north.
Which sample ?
Which sample ?
Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval,0.126344,0.13100 3,0.065242,0.05168,0.030775,0.02761,0.009635,0.009 692,-0.007363,-0.010752,-0.005846,-0.002248,0.004757,0.030552,-0.010858,-0.006099,-0.015255,-0.001394,0.006536,-0.009004,-0.008859,0.000124,0.015529,0.001325,0.002036
Distance to: Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
0.02854812 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.03218615 Ukrainian_Sumy
0.03432099 Polish
0.03500256 Ukrainian_Zhytomyr
0.03624666 Russian_Orel
0.03682668 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
0.03688700 Polish_Kashubian
0.03734860 Russian_Smolensk
0.03747842 Ukrainian_Rivne
0.03819716 Czech
0.03827041 Ukrainian_Chernihiv
0.03881000 Ukrainian_Dnipro
0.03900682 German_East
0.03918238 Russian_Voronez
0.03987598 Belarusian
0.04029468 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.04065924 Slovenian
0.04091330 Russian_Belgorod
0.04110137 Polish_Silesian
0.04136498 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.04148666 Moldovan_o
0.04196042 Russian_Kursk
0.04203596 Hungarian
0.04315663 Russian_Ryazan
0.04380279 Croatian
Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval,0.126344,0.13100 3,0.065242,0.05168,0.030775,0.02761,0.009635,0.009 692,-0.007363,-0.010752,-0.005846,-0.002248,0.004757,0.030552,-0.010858,-0.006099,-0.015255,-0.001394,0.006536,-0.009004,-0.008859,0.000124,0.015529,0.001325,0.002036
Cool !
someonenotyou
10-28-2023, 05:07 AM
Target:
Distance: 1.4282% / 0.01428227
19.6 Slav
17.4 Balkan
14.0 Balkan_pre_Slavic
13.2 British_Irish
11.2 Viking
9.2 French
5.2 Armenian
4.0 Celt
3.6 Levant
2.6 Bulgarian
ScandinavianCelt
10-30-2023, 03:51 AM
I've substituted the English sample for Kilteasheen.
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.8783% / 0.01878335
73.6 Gael
22.8 Viking
2.2 Balt
1.4 French
Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval,0.1149613, 0.1308678,0.0597863,0.0498712,0.0412179,0.0194665, 0.0003133,0.0077997,0.0043769,-0.0010813,-0.0053481,0.0055251,-0.0099207,-0.0101565,0.0228914,0.0085654,-0.0055283,0.000228,0.0054303,0.0046105,0.0089509,0 .0057046,0.0004684,0.0145241,0.0014449
Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia,0.10927,0.07 2103,0.042992,0.010982,0.008001,-0.000837,0.00705,0.003692,-0.000205,0.002187,-0.001137,0.005245,0.001635,0.004404,-0.004614,-0.013524,-0.014603,0.003927,0.003645,0.006003,-0.012353,0.000866,-0.000986,-0.001687,0.001317
Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval,0.093335,0.135065,-0.061471,-0.062662,-0.024312,-0.024821,0.004935,-0.010384,-0.019634,-0.001458,0.007795,0.005845,-0.001487,0.001101,-0.002036,0.004906,0.004172,0.007981,0.002137,-0.006503,-0.000998,0.006554,-0.003574,-0.001205,0.000479
Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG,0.127482,0.126941,0.06184 8,0.054264,0.03693,0.01757,0.00611,0.01523,-0.004909,-0.017495,0.001786,-0.008393,0.016353,0.023946,-0.018187,-0.000398,0.011213,-0.007095,0.000754,0.003126,-0.007487,-0.013354,0.011092,-0.00494,0.003113
French:France_LesMarmousets_ProtoMerovingien_possi ble.SG,0.127482,0.138112,0.059962,0.045866,0.04339 3,0.010877,0.003525,0.005307,0.016566,0.010205,0.0 00974,0.013788,-0.01442,-0.011423,0.02918,0.011138,-0.000522,0.004814,0.009176,0.003627,0.004243,0.006 554,-0.002711,0.00012,0.002395
Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG,0.095611,0.12 3895,-0.059962,-0.063631,-0.023697,-0.017012,0.00282,-0.006,0.005113,-0.011299,0.006008,-0.014837,0.017245,0.003028,0.000814,0.008618,-0.022817,-0.005321,0.005656,0.004877,0.01148,0.001731,-0.002588,-0.001084,0.000479
Balt:Estonia_Medieval.SG,0.129379,0.1188167,0.0900 063,0.088825,0.046265,0.0366277,0.011907,0.0137683 ,0.0036133,-0.03341,-0.010501,-0.013488,0.013627,0.028763,-0.0019907,0.01569,0.012169,-0.0046033,0.0024303,-0.002668,0.002953,8.23e-05,0.0062443,0.003213,-0.0014367
Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic,0.09675,0.109677,-0.051288,-0.028424,-0.047393,-0.002789,0.00094,-0.010153,-0.032315,-0.012939,0.008931,-0.007194,0.005946,0.005505,0.002036,-0.001989,-0.02021,-0.004561,0.00176,-0.010755,-0.005366,-0.000989,0.004437,-0.008555,0.004071
Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval,0.126344,0.13100 3,0.065242,0.05168,0.030775,0.02761,0.009635,0.009 692,-0.007363,-0.010752,-0.005846,-0.002248,0.004757,0.030552,-0.010858,-0.006099,-0.015255,-0.001394,0.006536,-0.009004,-0.008859,0.000124,0.015529,0.001325,0.002036
Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG, 0.1303275,0.1416665,0.0607165,0.039406,0.0486245,0 .012829,0.005405,0.0103845,0.013703,0.0118455,-0.0010555,0.0003745,0.0001485,0.005161,-0.001357,0.0016575,-0.0001955,0.000887,-0.002514,-0.002251,0.0108555,-0.0015455,-0.0071485,-0.0112665,0.0043105
Armenian:Armenia_EarlyMedieval,0.105476,0.133034,-0.054054,-0.050065,-0.030159,-0.0073443,-0.0005483,-0.0070767,-0.0310873,-0.0059533,0.001949,0.0017987,-0.0071353,0.000413,0.0021263,-0.0034917,-0.0018253,0.002914,0.0038967,-0.0005837,0.0016637,-0.000371,-0.0008217,0.000281,0.0034723
Berber:Mozabite,-0.0649782,0.135551,-0.0032793,-0.0717622,0.0260249,-0.0328364,-0.0260656,0.0108257,0.0617306,0.0303463,0.0065097,-0.006366,0.021795,-0.0165685,0.0163159,-0.016176,-0.0027097,-0.0219282,-0.0435571,0.0082757,-0.0146263,-0.0367947,0.0246817,-0.0042277,0.0056594
Greek:Turkey_Byzantine,0.1023143,0.1475902,-0.0302536,-0.0595397,0.0003078,-0.0208239,-0.0007311,-0.0042819,-0.0064313,0.0158747,0.0028868,0.0025642,-0.0044102,0.0018657,-0.0118679,0.0026224,0.011836,-0.0010557,0.0040643,0.0017787,-0.0035908,0.0015389,-0.0008763,0.0013521,-0.0036989
Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval,0.109555 ,0.1457285,0.007165,-0.0260015,0.0251588,-0.0124805,0.00188,0.000346,0.007363,0.0222328,0.00 3329,0.0065565,-0.0124875,-0.0013418,-0.0007127,-0.0037458,-0.0011082,0.00019,0.0066305,-0.004002,-0.0005925,0.0059662,-0.003605,-0.0018378,0.0012275
Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG,0.084229,-0.006093,0,-0.01615,-0.041854,-0.011435,-0.004935,-0.001615,-0.008181,-0.011299,-0.011367,-0.003297,-0.008622,-0.001651,0.004343,-0.00053,0.009257,-0.00266,0.002765,-0.01038,-0.006489,-0.000371,-0.007888,0.001205,0.002275
Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG,0.135449,0.137096,0.07 5047,0.050711,0.048624,0.019243,0.002585,0.004384, 0.005727,-0.001458,-0.01153,-0.000749,-0.006095,-0.006193,0.020087,0.015778,0.006258,0.008108,-0.004274,0.008504,0.006239,0.003833,-0.001479,0.014339,0.008143
Iberian:Spain_Medieval,0.1154168,0.1421738,0.03567 54,-0.0032946,0.0360068,0.000223,-0.0048882,0.003323,0.0278562,0.0347706,-0.0040922,0.007763,-0.0126658,-0.009496,0.0049674,-0.0024128,0,-0.0054224,-0.0027654,-0.0037518,0.0046918,0.002869,-0.0021444,-0.0029642,2.4e-05
Gael:Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norm an,0.1265792,0.1315286,0.0600402,0.0508447,0.03682 38,0.0178875,0.000705,0.0048618,0.0043937,0.001143 8,-0.0062604,0.0071419,-0.0153941,-0.0164436,0.0252954,0.007832,-0.0080209,0.0015596,0.0018855,0.0036828,0.0051288, 0.0038034,0.0013388,0.0119334,-0.0005368
Try it without removing any but adding the Gael. I tried and got this:
Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 1.8603% / 0.01860289 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.0 Gael:Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norm an
26.2 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
13.8 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
7.6 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
2.4 Persian:Iran_GanjDareh_Historic
Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 1.8842% / 0.01884193 | ADC: 0.5x RC
58.8 Gael:Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norm an
16.4 British_Irish:England_EarlyMedieval
14.4 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
10.4 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 2.0807% / 0.02080739 | ADC: 1x RC
78.8 Gael:Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norm an
21.2 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
ScandinavianCelt
10-30-2023, 08:26 PM
Target:
Distance: 1.4282% / 0.01428227
19.6 Slav
17.4 Balkan
14.0 Balkan_pre_Slavic
13.2 British_Irish
11.2 Viking
9.2 French
5.2 Armenian
4.0 Celt
3.6 Levant
2.6 Bulgarian
How does it look at 1x?
Kenshiro
10-31-2023, 06:46 AM
Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.1734% / 0.02173380
57.0 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
12.0 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
11.6 Greek:Turkey_Byzantine
8.2 Turkish:Turkey_PostMedieval
7.4 Slav:Ukraine_Medieval.SG
3.8 Ottoman_Turk:MA2196_noUDG.SG
someonenotyou
11-01-2023, 05:05 PM
How does it look at 1x?
Target:
Distance: 1.8721% / 0.01872094 | ADC: 1x RC
30.8 Balkan:BosniaHerzegovina_Medieval
24.4 Germanic:Germany_Drantum_Saxon_Medieval
23.0 Balkan_pre_Slavic:Croatia_Tilurium_Roman.SG
15.2 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
6.6 Bulgarian:Bulgaria_Medieval_oEastAsia
Solitude
04-07-2024, 02:37 PM
i can pull celt only if i add this sample here Celt:France_IA1_Hallstatt_Grand_Est , maybe my celtic dna is heavily mixed
Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.3510% / 0.02351044
35.6 Iberian:Spain_Medieval
19.2 SSA:Cameroon_Aghem:TK-KVWUM002
14.2 Celt:France_IA1_Hallstatt_Grand_Est
10.0 Viking:Denmark_Viking_o2.SG
6.6 Berber:Mozabite
6.0 Karitiana:HGDP00998
2.6 SSA:Luhya_Kenya:NA19023
2.2 SSA:Cameroon_Mbo:CAM-MBO-002
2.0 Karitiana:HGDP01001
1.0 Amerindian:Eastern_Brazilian:3001
0.2 Native_Brazilian:BRA_Botocudo:Botocudo17
0.2 Amerindian:BRA_Botocudo:Botocudo17
0.2 Native_Brazilian:BRA_Botocudo:Botocudo17
without this sample
Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 2.3984% / 0.02398387
43.2 Iberian
23.4 SSA
17.2 Viking
8.0 Amerindian
7.0 Berber
1.2 Native_Brazilian
Lemurian
04-07-2024, 04:34 PM
Target: Lemurian_scaled
Distance: 1.6236% / 0.01623627
42.0 Balkan_pre_Slavic
24.4 Balkan
16.2 Slav
14.8 Greek
2.6 Bulgarian
What's the difference between Balkan pre Slavic and just Balkan? I assume the latter is some general blend of Balkan and not specifically "pre-Slavic" native only.
Target: M_scaled
Distance: 0.0195% / 0.01951904 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.2 Berber:Mozabite
22.3 Levant:Syria_TellMasaikh_Medieval.SG
9.0 Italian:Italy_Lazio_Viterbo_EarlyMedieval
5.5 Celt:Slovakia_BytcaHrabove_Puchov_LaTene_Roman.SG
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