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Pathfinder
10-10-2023, 05:34 PM
I was fooling around with GED match again, and I find this really strange but one thing that seems to come up quite frequently is German estimate results, which is different from the other DNA tests I took seperately, which are MyHeritage and Ancestry DNA.

Yo, I get bloody British ancestry predominately a lot on this shite, but that always confused me, no offense but I look at a place like Scotland and I imagine what it's like to live their and what the predominate surrounding culture is like and I just can't see it. I have lived in Canada my whole life and it has no short of a lie or exageration been like a bloody holocaust to me, I don't know why that is specifically, it doesn't really make much sense, but needless to say there are just a lot of reasons why results like that seem a little puzzling. It makes me conclude there is a lot about history that I don't know, specificially about these reigions, or my ancestors were nothing like me, but that's a strange thing to be that different from your ancestors. Personally I wonder if Britian used to be like the equivalent of America or somethin', but I hear people say "BRITIAN CONQUERED MOST OF THE KNOWN WORLD, IT IS NOT UNUSUAL THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE BRITISH DNA" but I was still left feeling hesitant believing that, especially since my results are so divergent.

But see, I even get Orcadian on GEDmatch, which seems to somehow be some kind of middle ground between whether or not I am British or German/Scandinavian.

"Orcadians, also known as Orkneymen,[2] are an ethnic group native to the Orkney Islands, who speak an Orcadian dialect of the Scots language, a West Germanic language, and share a common history, culture and ancestry.[3] Speaking Norn, a native North Germanic language into the 19th or 20th century,[4] Orcadians descend significantly from North Germanic peoples, with around a third of their ancestry derived from Scandinavia, including a majority of their patrilineal line.[5] According to anthropological study, the Orcadian ethnic composition is similar to that of Icelandic people; a comparable islander ethnicity of North Germanic origin.[5]

Historically, they are also descended from the Picts,[6][a] Norse,[8] and Lowland Scots.[9]"

Boy that makes a lot of sense, I can kind of more easily see that for some reason, it makes a little bit more sense but it makes me laugh. But I get German quite a bit on GEDmatch. I feel like this just makes me question the whole nature of these DNA tests in general.

Pathfinder
10-10-2023, 05:57 PM
Yep, I forgot I didn't look up and search "scottish" last time I took one of the eurogenes tests, I don't know if it differs depending on what population you search but I got German and Orcadian again. A lot of my ancestors come from cold places, that kind of surpises me, I don't actually like the cold though.

Vessna
10-11-2023, 03:22 AM
I don’t quite understand your concerns. Are you dissatisfied with being predominantly British?


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Boudin
10-11-2023, 04:46 AM
Do 23andMe and IllustrativeDNA (G25), it's the gold standard. AncestryDNA is bad. MyHeritage is really bad. GEDmatch calculators are really, really bad.

Grace O'Malley
10-11-2023, 05:04 AM
I was fooling around with GED match again, and I find this really strange but one thing that seems to come up quite frequently is German estimate results, which is different from the other DNA tests I took seperately, which are MyHeritage and Ancestry DNA.

Yo, I get bloody British ancestry predominately a lot on this shite, but that always confused me, no offense but I look at a place like Scotland and I imagine what it's like to live their and what the predominate surrounding culture is like and I just can't see it. I have lived in Canada my whole life and it has no short of a lie or exageration been like a bloody holocaust to me, I don't know why that is specifically, it doesn't really make much sense, but needless to say there are just a lot of reasons why results like that seem a little puzzling. It makes me conclude there is a lot about history that I don't know, specificially about these reigions, or my ancestors were nothing like me, but that's a strange thing to be that different from your ancestors. Personally I wonder if Britian used to be like the equivalent of America or somethin', but I hear people say "BRITIAN CONQUERED MOST OF THE KNOWN WORLD, IT IS NOT UNUSUAL THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE BRITISH DNA" but I was still left feeling hesitant believing that, especially since my results are so divergent.

But see, I even get Orcadian on GEDmatch, which seems to somehow be some kind of middle ground between whether or not I am British or German/Scandinavian.

"Orcadians, also known as Orkneymen,[2] are an ethnic group native to the Orkney Islands, who speak an Orcadian dialect of the Scots language, a West Germanic language, and share a common history, culture and ancestry.[3] Speaking Norn, a native North Germanic language into the 19th or 20th century,[4] Orcadians descend significantly from North Germanic peoples, with around a third of their ancestry derived from Scandinavia, including a majority of their patrilineal line.[5] According to anthropological study, the Orcadian ethnic composition is similar to that of Icelandic people; a comparable islander ethnicity of North Germanic origin.[5]

Historically, they are also descended from the Picts,[6][a] Norse,[8] and Lowland Scots.[9]"

Boy that makes a lot of sense, I can kind of more easily see that for some reason, it makes a little bit more sense but it makes me laugh. But I get German quite a bit on GEDmatch. I feel like this just makes me question the whole nature of these DNA tests in general.

It will depend on what calculator you use on GEDmatch. I find Eurogenes K15 and K13 the best for the old calculators. Calculators however are not going to be 100% accurate. If you are a mixed ethnicity for example you will get a half way point. Most probably 23&Me are the most accurate of the big companies because they use broader categories but Ancestry is good with their Genetic Communities.

calxpal
10-11-2023, 05:47 AM
Not sure how to advise you accurately but I kind of understand this feeling lol. I've done a bunch of different DNA tests and when something on one of them has been odd or quite off (which it has) I find myself searching for answers and puzzling for some time, I don't get upset but it does make me question how these companies choose their samples and their algorithm. I currently use whichever test is most realistic based on my known background as a reference, however I expect that all these companies are going to struggle a bit with telling apart European subgroups. And I still think multiple tests is worth it for a comparison. I would definitely recommend trying 23andme if possible, but of course all these DNA tests have their own flaws and some work better for some and not others. I think IllustrativeDNA is not bad either and LivingDNA I think is worth consideration too. Tellmegen also gave me reasonably good results for free. Hope you can figure this confusion out.

I also definitely second using Eurogenes K13.

Pathfinder
10-11-2023, 03:22 PM
Not sure how to advise you accurately but I kind of understand this feeling lol. I've done a bunch of different DNA tests and when something on one of them has been odd or quite off (which it has) I find myself searching for answers and puzzling for some time, I don't get upset but it does make me question how these companies choose their samples and their algorithm. I currently use whichever test is most realistic based on my known background as a reference, however I expect that all these companies are going to struggle a bit with telling apart European subgroups. And I still think multiple tests is worth it for a comparison. I would definitely recommend trying 23andme if possible, but of course all these DNA tests have their own flaws and some work better for some and not others. I think IllustrativeDNA is not bad either and LivingDNA I think is worth consideration too. Tellmegen also gave me reasonably good results for free. Hope you can figure this confusion out.

I also definitely second using Eurogenes K13.

I did use eurogenes k13, that's predominately what I was using for reference. It mostly gives me scandinavian results on the oracle.