Perfect European-Focused Western Eurasian Calculator G25 Scaled

[Eurafricanid]

This is basically an updated version on my previous calculator with some tweaks and label changes.

Use ADC (ADD DIST COL) 0.25X , but NO is ok for some. AGGREGATE: YES


Components:

South_Asian,0.0399072,-0.084338,-0.172301,0.1130942,-0.0767377,0.0626569,-0.0012954,0.0137406,0.0446198,0.0290394,-0.0034439,0.0006409,-0.0010078,0.0044388,-0.0071006,-0.005409,0.0034721,0.0000966,-0.0001094,0.0024024,0.0034552,-0.0000054,-0.0004854,0.0003719,-0.0040984
East_Asian,0.0225268,-0.449961,-0.0043923,-0.0663124,0.0705986,0.0312986,0.0033747,-0.0015754,-0.0139451,0.0000379,-0.0597301,-0.007652,0.0098078,-0.0067413,-0.005842,0.000939,0.0014571,0.0008235,-0.0019446,-0.0104445,0.0136589,0.0065822,0.0128699,0.0003755,-0.0013056
North_Asian,0.046212,-0.3909788,0.1308798,-0.010223,-0.1322862,-0.075649,0.0287534,0.0401753,0.0261177,0.0167384,0 .0651909,0.009449,-0.0128888,0.018703,0.0067182,0.0047667,0.0031162,-0.0008298,-0.005581,-0.0155074,0.0201144,0.0116172,0.0200708,-0.0002832,-0.0001138
Amerindian,0.0578222,-0.3174546,0.1171336,0.10672,-0.1138058,-0.015395,-0.3258188,-0.3916914,-0.0175482,-0.020775,0.0020784,-0.0046758,0.0023192,0.0358646,-0.0134908,0.0005834,0.0109002,-0.0012416,0.0002514,0.0012756,-0.0035436,0.012662,-0.0067784,-0.0074466,-0.009149
Amerindian,0.0529278,-0.328016,0.1120048,0.0774392,-0.1061738,-0.0184068,-0.1983488,-0.2347978,-0.0037325,-0.020137,0.0082817,-0.0034098,0.0063925,6.87e-05,-0.0151328,-0.004508,-0.0005215,0.0032622,0.0115015,0.0073472,0.0038682,-0.0107578,0.0027115,0.0062055,0.0092805
Baltic,0.134654,0.1208868,0.087167 9,0.0853566,0.0432369,0.0319449,0.0117421,0.014700 4,-0.00171,-0.0329904,-0.0026461,-0.0128229,0.0216691,0.0279271,-0.0096762,0.0023342,0.0021044,-0.0009946,0.0018994,0.0032995,-0.0019831,-0.0045304,0.007511,-0.0059922,0.0020308
Scandinavian,0.1319312,0.1290728,0.06 99285,0.0562278,0.0405381,0.0202268,0.0055195,0.00 80205,0.0042214,-0.0045429,-0.0046022,0.0022051,-0.0059582,-0.0059868,0.0170271,0.0061012,-0.0059828,0.0021502,0.0030494,0.004621,0.0062164,0 .002894,0.0010215,0.0127673,0.0001392
British,0.1319656,0.1358891,0.0615171,0.0460877,0. 0390812,0.017566,0.0033442,0.005193 2,0.0050355,0.003682,-0.0057018,0.0055446,-0.0128994,-0.0115583,0.0223748,0.0043778,-0.010651,0.002954,0.0025114,0.0017612,0.0052476,0. 0026961,-0.0012864,0.0123657,0.0002254
Iberian,0.1254323,0.1486721,0.0427438,0.0020883,0. 045145,-0.0003353,-0.0007287,0.0015252,0.0204162,0.0326562,-0.0037983,0.0083781,-0.0168339,-0.0113561,0.0082738,0.0005856,-0.003594,0.0015388,0.0009185,-0.0025853,0.0043008,0.002037,-0.0039926,-0.0027672,0.0003055
Italic,0.1191109,0.1510226,0.02 11169,-0.0221089,0.0339352,-0.0089532,-0.0006431,-0.0001168,0.0143433,0.0332868,-0.0023828,0.0070186,-0.0141788,-0.0051522,-0.0037834,-0.0033923,0.0019408,0.0005395,0.0027885,-0.0034741,-0.0009238,0.0005775,-0.001582,-0.0014561,-0.0004329
Hellenic,0.1152799,0.1437827,0.00297 09,-0.0283611,0.0162972,-0.0093422,0.0020761,-0.0004574,-0.0002401,0.0141737,0.0018078,0.0017997,-0.0033668,0.0054518,-0.014431,-0.001275,0.0068267,0.0008234,0.0056708,-0.0048938,-0.0065124,0.000453,0.0013141,0.0007072,-0.001957
Anatolian,0.1051404,0.141856,-0.0392776,-0.0593588,-0.0128686,-0.0178221,0.0025427,-0.0041552,-0.0164494,0.0076624,0.0028907,0.0030338,-0.0035522,0.0028462,-0.009213,-0.0025715,0.0039722,0.0004557,0.0026684,-0.0019496,-0.000364,0.0017384,-0.0010825,0.0002062,-0.0006801
Caucasian,0.1073715,0.1252442,-0.0541661,-0.0477702,-0.0374639,-0.0094461,0.0084844,-0.0057826,-0.0521436,-0.0159242,0.0010788,0.0079171,-0.0175615,0.0022218,-0.000717,-0.0121238,0.0088154,-0.0032584,-0.0048897,0.009386,0.0078402,0.0018329,0.0003818,-0.0063376,-0.0010101
Iranic,0.0836866,0.0865414,-0.0737396,-0.0075344,-0.0531699,0.0075697,0.004797,-0.0019321,-0.0289475,-0.0157287,-0.0001999,-0.0012595,0.0021037,-0.0050629,0.0081536,0.0170492,-0.0035668,0.0014914,0.0030386,-0.0133186,-0.0003992,-0.0072709,-0.0004632,-0.008005,0.0050788
Levantine,0.0749198,0.1385987,-0.0496263,-0.0750068,-0.0144314,-0.0255885,-0.0028457,-0.0047699,0.0057069,0.0051236,0.0055511,-0.0058735,0.0125279,0.0012165,-0.0052475,0.0071208,-0.001764,0.0006075,0.0018413,-0.0002706,-0.0005154,0.0019219,-0.0004471,0.0014319,0.0008571
Arabic,0.0169109,0.1356464,-0.055156,-0.103438,-0.0087666,-0.0429055,-0.0124077,-0.0056036,0.0523064,-0.009081,0.0119286,-0.0235592,0.0488827,0.0046099,0.0062613,0.0168627,-0.0166677,0.0024619,-0.0016119,0.0181842,0.0085174,0.0099953,-0.0048836,0.0038242,-0.0052132
Berber,-0.0651068,0.1346592,-0.0008296,-0.0839154,0.032991,-0.0363116,-0.0358626,0.0074768,0.090195,0.037176,0.0106526,-0.0102808,0.0234886,-0.0181662,0.023181,-0.018536,0.0029728,-0.033471,-0.0608882,0.0149572,-0.0246316,-0.059502,0.0344354,-0.007471,0.0127652
Sub_Saharan_African,-0.577083,0.0507765,-0.0003773,-0.0075098,-0.0053855,-0.0016735,-0.0176848,0.0204222,0.081145,-0.0969495,-0.02107,0.022742,-0.0383172,-0.0011698,0.0101452,-0.021347,0.0186125,-0.0094382,0.0241968,-0.0241678,0.002402,0.003308,0.001479,0.0009038,0.0 096995
Sub_Saharan_African,-0.62629,0.063666,0.021002,0.01692,-0.000213,0.009525,-0.009599,0.01823,-0.031544,0.014775,0.001624,-0.001579,-0.003625,0.000688,-0.009114,0.006568,-0.00323,0.009297,-0.005946,0.00457,0.000893,-0.000694,0.001071,-0.000287,0.000497
Sub_Saharan_African,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Sub_Saharan_African,-0.647426,0.0591038,0.0254932,0.0374034,-0.001108,0.0066378,0.3663348,-0.293434,0.0177118,0.02985,-0.0089316,0.2198242,0.1264506,0.0010182,0.010342,-0.0014052,0.0009386,-0.0518664,0.014229,0.003727,0.0061144,-0.0018548,-0.0043878,0.0025304,-0.0006944



Use this only if you have Basque ancestry:
Iberian,0.1296228,0.1499352,0.0560635,0.0108157,0. 0557382,0.0018484,-0.0020316,0.0014432,0.0296378,0.0420413,-0.0060739,0.0112409,-0.0224702,-0.0173331,0.0152454,0.0013302,-0.0060375,0.0022615,-0.0012385,-0.0030003,0.0086314,0.0014034,-0.0077584,-0.0089991,0.0013982


Use this only if you have Sardinian ancestry (Maybe also Corsican):
Italic,0.1195239,0.1663193,0.0264112,-0.0503713,0.058252,-0.0227645,-0.0036614,-0.0006923,0.0397656,0.0732964,0.0003432,0.0139368,-0.0253911,-0.0114698,-0.0125158,-0.0055928,0.0081048,-0.0005692,0.001885,-0.0118337,-0.0019609,-0.0003422,-0.0082777,-0.0183641,0.001097



Thoughts about the Calculator:
This calculator can be interpreted in many different ways if you take out some samples and/or re-label some samples, but it works in a very interesting way.

Some components can be modeled by others in a very good way:

Target: Scandinavian
Distance: 0.8339% / 0.00833907 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.2 British
20.2 Baltic
0.6 North_Asian

Target: British
Distance: 1.3147% / 0.01314707 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.6 Scandinavian
19.4 Iberian
1.0 Caucasian

Target: Italic
Distance: 1.5125% / 0.01512500 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.6 Iberian
26.4 Hellenic
11.8 Anatolian
2.2 Berber

Target: Hellenic
Distance: 1.2866% / 0.01286620 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.4 Anatolian
44.0 Italic
11.6 Baltic

Target: Anatolian
Distance: 1.5776% / 0.01577624 | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.0 Levantine
31.8 Caucasian
29.2 Hellenic

Target: Levantine
Distance: 1.0304% / 0.01030371 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.8 Anatolian
32.6 Arabic
3.6 Iranic

The others cannot be modeled sufficiently

The Iberian is not as good but it's not as bad either:
Target: Iberian
Distance: 2.0968% / 0.02096788 | ADC: 0.25x RC
65.0 Italic
35.0 British

[Laredo]

Target: Laredo_scaled
Distance: 1.5567% / 0.01556677
46.0 Iberian
38.2 Amerindian
7.6 Berber
3.0 Caucasian
2.6 Sub_Saharan_African
1.6 South_Asian
1.0 British

[Annihilus]

Target: annihilus
Distance: 0.5712% / 0.00571213
29.8 Anatolian
27.6 Caucasian
20.6 Hellenic
17.0 Baltic
3.6 Iranic
0.6 South_Asian
0.4 East_Asian
0.4 North_Asian

[sacha]

Target: Sacha_scaled
Distance: 4.6714% / 0.04671411 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.2 Levantine
30.8 Anatolian
3.0 Italic

Also tried with 0.5x because Italic would not make sense realistically

Target: Sacha_scaled
Distance: 4.6798% / 0.04679807 | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.4 Levantine
35.6 Anatolian

Distance to: Sacha_scaled
0.04988253 Levantine
0.05632635 Anatolian
0.09344947 Hellenic
0.10692068 Caucasian
0.11779945 Italic
0.12321868 Arabic
0.14403877 Iranic
0.15427751 Iberian
0.19929553 British
0.21121517 Scandinavian
0.23388097 Berber
0.24708450 Baltic
0.36983994 South_Asian
0.60290084 North_Asian
0.62689037 East_Asian
0.62695349 Amerindian
0.71221515 Sub_Saharan_African
0.74592813 Sub_Saharan_African
0.74989069 Amerindian
0.75395266 Sub_Saharan_African
0.93447059 Sub_Saharan_African

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01782312 British
0.02383810 Scandinavian
0.07440519 Iberian
0.09195820 Baltic
0.10361948 Italic
0.11897822 Hellenic
0.17267715 Anatolian
0.19130456 Caucasian
0.19729721 Levantine
0.19774208 Iranic
0.25725344 Arabic
0.29768307 Berber
0.36853483 South_Asian
0.58330663 North_Asian
0.59207698 Amerindian
0.61650900 East_Asian
0.71955327 Amerindian
0.73679247 Sub_Saharan_African
0.76931756 Sub_Saharan_African
0.77737849 Sub_Saharan_African
0.95580437 Sub_Saharan_African

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7082% / 0.01708240
78.4 British
21.0 Scandinavian
0.6 Baltic

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7085% / 0.01708545 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.6 British
23.4 Scandinavian

[Eurafricanid]

Target: Sacha_scaled
Distance: 4.6714% / 0.04671411 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.2 Levantine
30.8 Anatolian
3.0 Italic

Also tried with 0.5x because Italic would not make sense realistically

Target: Sacha_scaled
Distance: 4.6798% / 0.04679807 | ADC: 0.5x RC
64.4 Levantine
35.6 Anatolian
...


It's not that far-fetched if you think about the roman empire :rolleyes:.

But wow! Your distance is HIGH! :eek:

Target: Alawite
Distance: 0.7813% / 0.00781349 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.8 Levantine
19.2 Anatolian
3.8 Iranic
2.2 Caucasian

[Katarzyna]

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 1.2376% / 0.01237649
70.8 Baltic
16.2 Scandinavian
8.0 Hellenic
4.8 Italic
0.2 Sub_Saharan_African

Again SSA xD I think I need to redefine my ethnicity

[Solitude]

Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 0.0248% / 0.02483354
52.7 Iberian
23.8 Sub_Saharan_African
9.5 Amerindian
8.2 Scandinavian
6.8 Berber

[sacha]

Without ADC as I was asked :)

Target: Sacha_scaled
Distance: 4.6644% / 0.04664358
49.8 Anatolian
39.4 Levantine
9.0 Arabic
1.8 Italic

It puts me too much into Anatolian and too little into Levantine; thus, I get Arabic and Italic to balance it out, despite them not making much sense. But also it is a European-focused calculator & meant to be used with ADC for a reason xd

[Eurafricanid]

Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 1.2376% / 0.01237649
70.8 Baltic
16.2 Scandinavian
8.0 Hellenic
4.8 Italic
0.2 Sub_Saharan_African

Again SSA xD I think I need to redefine my ethnicity

What about using ADC: 25x?

[Annihilus]

Without ADC as I was asked :)

Target: Sacha_scaled
Distance: 4.6644% / 0.04664358
49.8 Anatolian
39.4 Levantine
9.0 Arabic
1.8 Italic

It puts me too much into Anatolian and too little into Levantine; thus, I get Arabic and Italic to balance it out, despite them not making much sense. But also it is a European-focused calculator & meant to be used with ADC for a reason xd

I think my results are better without ADC

Target: annihilus
Distance: 0.7645% / 0.00764500 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.2 Hellenic
34.2 Caucasian
11.2 Baltic
10.4 Iranic

[Annihilus]

I think my results are better without ADC

Target: annihilus
Distance: 0.7645% / 0.00764500 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.2 Hellenic
34.2 Caucasian
11.2 Baltic
10.4 Iranic

or maybe not, I'm not sure lol

[vader]

Target: Me_scaled
Distance: 2.4551% / 0.02455146 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.8 Iberian
10.0 Berber
5.2 Italic
4.6 Baltic
1.4 Sub_Saharan_African

Target: Fiancee_scaled
Distance: 2.3715% / 0.02371506 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.0 Amerindian
39.0 Iberian
5.0 Berber
4.4 Iranic
3.6 Sub_Saharan_African

[sacha]

It's not that far-fetched if you think about the roman empire :rolleyes:.

But wow! Your distance is HIGH! :eek:

Target: Alawite
Distance: 0.7813% / 0.00781349 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.8 Levantine
19.2 Anatolian
3.8 Iranic
2.2 Caucasian

Yeah, both me and my father get weird distances with G25 calculators & samples, my closest modern population average is something like 3.9. My friends of a similar but slightly different background get normal fits, and we all took 23andMe at the same time. I think it is because my area is heavily Anatolian/ANF whilst being Levantine and showing up this way on commercial tests— I'm about the same distance to Greek Cypriot as I am to Lebanese Christian. On this set PCA'd it kind of ends up like this:

https://i.ibb.co/dQkwNHc/Screenshot-2024-01-10-at-8-13-05-PM.png (https://ibb.co/NLWd0G3)

[rothaer]

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 1.3092% / 0.01309193 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.4 Scandinavian
33.4 Baltic
17.0 Iberian
4.2 Hellenic

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.7016% / 0.01701595 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.8 Scandinavian
15.8 Baltic
1.4 Caucasian

[hazmatnik]

Same outcome without and with ADC 0.25x for me

Target: Nikola_scaled
Distance: 3.1617% / 0.03161692 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.2 Hellenic
34.4 Baltic
20.4 Italic

[vader]

Yeah, both me and my father get weird distances with G25 calculators & samples, my closest modern population average is something like 3.9. My friends of a similar but slightly different background get normal fits, and we all took 23andMe at the same time. I think it is because my area is heavily Anatolian/ANF whilst being Levantine and showing up this way on commercial tests— I'm about the same distance to Greek Cypriot as I am to Lebanese Christian. On this set PCA'd it kind of ends up like this:

https://i.ibb.co/dQkwNHc/Screenshot-2024-01-10-at-8-13-05-PM.png (https://ibb.co/NLWd0G3)

from my experience 23andMe data made my distances quite far too. I believe mine went from .0256 with ancestrydna data to about .033 with 23andMe. It is a bit of a big jump.

[Julkka]

Target: Julkka_scaled
Distance: 3.7746% / 0.03774576
54.2 Baltic
36.8 Scandinavian
9.0 North_Asian

[sacha]

from my experience 23andMe data made my distances quite far too. I believe mine went from .0256 with ancestrydna data to about .033 with 23andMe. It is a bit of a big jump.

I'm going to do an Ancestry test soon and hopefully this will fix some issues. I think it is a bit odd that it was both me and my father (I actually tested him later than I did with the other people) that had this problem while people with the same 'ethnicity estimate' did not, but regardless I am interested in having higher quality raw data, so I can at least eliminate that as an issue.

[ScandinavianCelt]

Aggregate:

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 1.5529% / 0.01552944 | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.2 British
10.0 Baltic
3.8 Caucasian
1.8 South_Asian
0.8 Amerindian
0.4 East_Asian

[Eurafricanid]

Forgot to put my results:

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.3580% / 0.01357965 | ADC: 0.25x RC
87.4 Iberian
5.2 Arabic
4.8 Anatolian
1.8 Caucasian
0.8 Iranic

[#Oda#]

Target: rothaer_wife2_scaled
Distance: 1.7016% / 0.01701595 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.8 Scandinavian
15.8 Baltic
1.4 Caucasian

Target: #Oda#_scaled
Distance: 2.0638% / 0.02063848
90.4 Scandinavian
5.8 Hellenic
3.2 Iberian
0.6 Caucasian

:p

[Annihilus]

Target: annihilus_mom
Distance: 0.6949% / 0.00694878 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.0 Anatolian
33.6 Caucasian
24.6 Iranic
4.2 Hellenic
1.6 North_Asian

[ScandinavianCelt]

Aggregate:

Target: Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
Distance: 1.5529% / 0.01552944 | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.2 British
10.0 Baltic
3.8 Caucasian
1.8 South_Asian
0.8 Amerindian
0.4 East_Asian

This Viking sample got the identical percentage of British as I did I don't know if that means anything but here it is:

Norway_IA.SG:VK418_noUDG.SG

Norway_IA.SG:VK418_noUDG.SG,0.12862,0.13405,0.0667 5,0.059109,0.040931,0.023985,0.01034,0.016615,0.00 6954,-0.00656,-0.00065,-0.002398,-0.006541,-0.003441,0.03108,-0.004641,-0.033118,0.00076,0.001508,0.002751,0.012977,0.0027 2,-0.001972,0.005543,-0.004311

Does British here include Scottish and Irish and Welsh? As well as potentially Shetland the Faroes?

[celticdragongod]

This Viking sample got the identical percentage of British as I did I don't know if that means anything but here it is:

Norway_IA.SG:VK418_noUDG.SG

Norway_IA.SG:VK418_noUDG.SG,0.12862,0.13405,0.0667 5,0.059109,0.040931,0.023985,0.01034,0.016615,0.00 6954,-0.00656,-0.00065,-0.002398,-0.006541,-0.003441,0.03108,-0.004641,-0.033118,0.00076,0.001508,0.002751,0.012977,0.0027 2,-0.001972,0.005543,-0.004311

Does British here include Scottish and Irish and Welsh? As well as potentially Shetland the Faroes?

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01782312 British
0.02383810 Scandinavian
0.03834845 Norway_IA.SG:VK418_noUDG.SG
0.07440519 Iberian
0.09195820 Baltic
0.10361948 Italic
0.11897822 Hellenic
0.17267715 Anatolian
0.19130456 Caucasian
0.19729721 Levantine
0.19774208 Iranic
0.25725344 Arabic
0.29768307 Berber
0.36853483 South_Asian
0.58330663 North_Asian
0.59207698 Amerindian
0.61650900 East_Asian
0.71955327 Amerindian
0.73679247 Sub_Saharan_African
0.76931756 Sub_Saharan_African
0.77737849 Sub_Saharan_African
0.95580437 Sub_Saharan_African

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6752% / 0.01675191
70.4 British
19.0 Scandinavian
9.8 Norway_IA.SG
0.8 Hellenic

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.6765% / 0.01676483 | ADC: 0.25x RC
73.4 British
17.6 Scandinavian
9.0 Norway_IA.SG

[lockdownboredom]

Target: LB_scaled
Distance: 3.3132% / 0.03313196
75.4 Hellenic
14.0 Baltic
10.6 Italic


Target: Nephew_scaled
Distance: 2.5218% / 0.02521849
76.6 Hellenic
19.4 Italic
4.0 Baltic

[Eurafricanid]

This Viking sample got the identical percentage of British as I did I don't know if that means anything but here it is:

Norway_IA.SG:VK418_noUDG.SG

Norway_IA.SG:VK418_noUDG.SG,0.12862,0.13405,0.0667 5,0.059109,0.040931,0.023985,0.01034,0.016615,0.00 6954,-0.00656,-0.00065,-0.002398,-0.006541,-0.003441,0.03108,-0.004641,-0.033118,0.00076,0.001508,0.002751,0.012977,0.0027 2,-0.001972,0.005543,-0.004311

Does British here include Scottish and Irish and Welsh? As well as potentially Shetland the Faroes?

The British includes (only) all the British Isles's major populations as previously cited.

[Eurafricanid]

This Viking sample got the identical percentage of British as I did I don't know if that means anything but here it is:

Norway_IA.SG:VK418_noUDG.SG

Norway_IA.SG:VK418_noUDG.SG,0.12862,0.13405,0.0667 5,0.059109,0.040931,0.023985,0.01034,0.016615,0.00 6954,-0.00656,-0.00065,-0.002398,-0.006541,-0.003441,0.03108,-0.004641,-0.033118,0.00076,0.001508,0.002751,0.012977,0.0027 2,-0.001972,0.005543,-0.004311

Does British here include Scottish and Irish and Welsh? As well as potentially Shetland the Faroes?

This is the result when I model the British component with the same calculator:

Target: British
Distance: 1.3147% / 0.01314707 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.6 Scandinavian
19.4 Iberian
1.0 Caucasian

Interesting, isn't it?

[Jingle Bell]

Me:


Target: JingleBell_scaled
Distance: 1.8014% / 0.01801350
44.6 Sub_Saharan_African
41.2 Iberian
5.4 Arabic
4.4 Berber
2.4 Amerindian
2.0 Iranic

Dad:


Target: JingleBell_Dad
Distance: 0.9802% / 0.00980163
44.2 Iberian
35.8 Sub_Saharan_African
6.4 Berber
5.0 Amerindian
4.4 Arabic
2.6 Iranic
1.0 British
0.6 Caucasian

My Euro Side Proxy:


Target: JingleBell_EuroProxy
Distance: 2.6672% / 0.02667242
83.0 Iberian
12.4 Arabic
2.8 Berber
1.4 Amerindian
0.4 Iranic

[Jingle Bell]

Forgot to put my results:

Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.3580% / 0.01357965 | ADC: 0.25x RC
87.4 Iberian
5.2 Arabic
4.8 Anatolian
1.8 Caucasian
0.8 Iranic

We got similar results!
What is the distance from your proxy to mine?

JingleBell_EuroProxy,0.10537002826087,0.1420089065 2174,0.02983332173913,-0.00834926956522,0.03115869782609,-0.01394888804348,-0.01021126630435,-0.00257781304348,0.03004724130435,0.03176342173913 ,0.00151884782609,0.00928964891304,-0.00068273804348,-0.01708881195652,0.00515347826087,0.00466520326087 ,-0.00353570434783,0.00584747608696,0.00557085869565 ,-0.00680171630435,0.00162773804348,-0.00024052391304,-0.00617754347826,-0.01820267717391,0.0006373576087

[Jingle Bell]

Yeah, both me and my father get weird distances with G25 calculators & samples, my closest modern population average is something like 3.9. My friends of a similar but slightly different background get normal fits, and we all took 23andMe at the same time. I think it is because my area is heavily Anatolian/ANF whilst being Levantine and showing up this way on commercial tests— I'm about the same distance to Greek Cypriot as I am to Lebanese Christian. On this set PCA'd it kind of ends up like this:

https://i.ibb.co/dQkwNHc/Screenshot-2024-01-10-at-8-13-05-PM.png (https://ibb.co/NLWd0G3)

Interesting, u seens kinda Cyprus shifted for a Levantine

[ScandinavianCelt]

This is the result when I model the British component with the same calculator:

Target: British
Distance: 1.3147% / 0.01314707 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.6 Scandinavian
19.4 Iberian
1.0 Caucasian

Interesting, isn't it?

If I swap in my coordinates for the British I don't know why I don't score higher with them in this direction:

Target: British
Distance: 1.2191% / 0.01219074 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.8 Scandinavian
20.4 Brad.Davidski.AncestryDNA.Official.G25
17.8 Iberian

[Melkiirs]

Target: Milkaner_AncestryDNA
Distance: 2.4701% / 0.02470147
26.6 British
23.0 Baltic
20.0 Anatolian
14.8 Italic
7.6 Arabic
6.8 Hellenic
1.2 East_Asian

Target: Milkaner_AncestryDNA
Distance: 2.5138% / 0.02513795 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.4 Hellenic
30.4 British
16.2 Baltic
8.8 Arabic
1.2 East_Asian

Target: MilkanerDad_AncestryDNA
Distance: 2.1509% / 0.02150852
29.4 Anatolian
22.8 Hellenic
22.0 Italic
10.8 Arabic
7.0 Baltic
2.8 Berber
2.6 East_Asian
2.4 Levantine
0.2 Amerindian

Target: MilkanerDad_AncestryDNA
Distance: 2.2062% / 0.02206203 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.0 Hellenic
21.4 Levantine
7.6 British
5.6 Arabic
2.8 Berber
2.6 East_Asian

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.7055% / 0.01705532
93.8 Iberian
2.8 Berber
2.0 British
1.2 Baltic
0.2 Sub_Saharan_African

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.7291% / 0.01729109 | ADC: 0.25x
96.6 Iberian
2.4 Berber
0.6 Baltic
0.4 British

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.7986% / 0.01798649 | ADC: 0.5x
99.0 Iberian
1.0 Berber

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8823% / 0.01882333 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Iberian

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8823% / 0.01882333 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Iberian

[sacha]

Interesting, u seens kinda Cyprus shifted for a Levantine
I am having fun with this and bumping the thread because it feel, so I will keep going a bit haha.

Seems like it might just be a population quirk, considering my Dad has some element of it too, though he is slightly more aligned with the other Levant samples. Honestly, what I have gotten out of this is that I probably should have tested my mom as well...
https://i.ibb.co/NmcRmRF/sacha-5.jpg (https://ibb.co/mXfpXpR)
(Sacha_LF2 has 1.2% Cypriot on 23andMe but that doesn't mean much, thought it was interesting to note though.)

On Eurogenes K36 and K13 I have very high East_Med. I think it might be high ANF/EEF that does this. I will probably mess around with qpAdm a bit soon to get a better reading on that, but on top of G25 component calculators giving me heavy ANF, I also seem to get small Italian splits that are almost always Sardinian. And then when you look at 2D-ified PCAs, I leave the main population 'packs' in a weird way, I have posted this PCA a few times before, but it is relevant and I like the visual:

https://i.ibb.co/RhDN3L4/sachas.jpg (https://ibb.co/N1yr9wn)

But if you see on that global one where I have zoomed in on the Europe and West Asia clusters, it kind of looks like I could be in that overlap zone with other Near East populations and South Europeans, but something is pulling me 'out.' And that other population in the bottom left corner is a little cluster of Sardinians, who have very high EEF. I don't care as much about the G25 calculators as a measure of admixture, they are not the most accurate in that regard, but as a comparative tool for shift they are pretty convenient.

I also wonder if back-to-Syria Maronite migration from Cyprus had any effect on the population in my area specifically, because there are many with a last name that means "Cypriot," but as far as I can tell those who returned didn't really mix that much outside of the Maronite community. I am related to a few on 23 that show up as 100% Levantine and have multiple generations tested. But I guess that is just the mystery of Sacha Fit Syndrome (trademark)

[Solitude]

Jinglebell your coords raw data is from what company? Myheritage?

[mariusz99]

Target: MariuszKorycinski_scaled
Distance: 1.9653% / 0.01965312 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.2 Baltic
25.0 Scandinavian
12.6 Hellenic
1.2 South_Asian

[JerryS.]

I guess the north south thing is ok but that North Sea area is a mess.

Un-Aggregated

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.8710% / 0.01870961 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.8 British
18.2 Scandinavian
10.8 Hellenic
1.2 Berber

Aggregated

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.8960% / 0.01896012 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.8 British
16.8 Scandinavian
12.4 Hellenic

[Beowulf]

I've been quite late for this one

Target: Beowulf_ScaledDistance: 0.0132% / 0.01323653 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.0 Italic
28.4 Scandinavian
27.8 Iberian
1.4 Baltic
1.4 Berber


Without Italic

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0139% / 0.01391480
59.9 Iberian
20.9 Scandinavian
16.7 Hellenic
1.6 Berber
0.9 Baltic


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<tbody>
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0139% / 0.01391480




59.9
Iberian





20.9
Scandinavian





16.7
Hellenic





1.6
Berber





0.9
Baltic



</tbody>
</body>

[Jingle Bell]

Jinglebell your coords raw data is from what company? Myheritage?

Genera

[Far_away]

Target: N
Distance: 2.7411% / 0.02741109
46.8 Hellenic
33.0 Baltic
20.2 Italic

[vader]

I'm going to do an Ancestry test soon and hopefully this will fix some issues. I think it is a bit odd that it was both me and my father (I actually tested him later than I did with the other people) that had this problem while people with the same 'ethnicity estimate' did not, but regardless I am interested in having higher quality raw data, so I can at least eliminate that as an issue.

yeah just to show you:

https://i.imgur.com/NPoCbmt.png

obviously it isn't a craaaazy difference. But for us more homogenous people it would make more sense to match lower distances.

[Gergő Marosvári]

Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.7625% / 0.01762517
44.0 Baltic
33.0 Hellenic
15.6 Scandinavian
5.4 Caucasian
1.2 South_Asian
0.4 East_Asian
0.4 North_Asian

Target: Gergő
Distance: 1.7726% / 0.01772645 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.4 Baltic
32.2 Hellenic
16.2 Scandinavian
4.4 Caucasian
2.8 Iranic
1.0 North_Asian

[RyoHazuki]

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 0.8684% / 0.00868376 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.0 British
18.2 Iberian
10.2 Iberian
9.6 Baltic

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.8840% / 0.02884048 | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.4 British
3.4 Arabic
2.4 Iberian
0.8 Sub_Saharan_African

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 0.8684% / 0.00868376 | ADC: 0.25x RC
62.0 British
28.4 Iberian
9.6 Baltic

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.8840% / 0.02884048 | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.4 British
3.4 Arabic
2.4 Iberian
0.8 Sub_Saharan_African

[JerryS.]

Is anyone else having a problem with page 5 loading?

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.7289% / 0.02728933
44.6 Baltic
33.0 Hellenic
22.2 Italic
0.2 North_Asian

[Nurzat]

contrary to popular belief, Romanians are pretty European, genetically...

Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 1.8124% / 0.01812353
51.4 Baltic
38.6 Hellenic
4.6 British
3.6 Italic
1.8 East_Asian

Target: Nurzat_dad
Distance: 1.8244% / 0.01824367 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.0 Baltic
42.0 Hellenic
6.4 Scandinavian
1.6 East_Asian


/

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.7077% / 0.01707737
42.4 Baltic
42.4 Hellenic
7.2 Italic
7.0 British
0.8 East_Asian
0.2 Iranic

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.7886% / 0.01788562 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.4 Hellenic
39.2 Baltic
11.4 Scandinavian

/


Target: Nurzat_mom
Distance: 1.6395% / 0.01639460
42.2 Baltic
35.8 Hellenic
14.4 Italic
7.6 British

Target: Nurzat_mom
Distance: 1.6395% / 0.01639469 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.0 Baltic
36.0 Hellenic
14.2 Italic
7.8 British

[Demirkazık]

Target: Demirkazık
Distance: 2.2973% / 0.02297292 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.8 Anatolian
13.8 Baltic
10.0 Caucasian
10.0 Iranic
9.0 North_Asian
4.4 East_Asian

[noricum]

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.3372% / 0.02337174
46.0 Baltic
35.2 Italic
17.8 British
1.0 Hellenic

[Wend-Kruzek]

Distance to: Kruzek_scaled
0.04416420 Scandinavian
0.05184728 British
0.06298798 Baltic
0.08712675 Iberian
0.10765221 Italic
0.11283037 Hellenic
0.16776677 Anatolian
0.18480974 Caucasian
0.19139871 Iranic
0.19373553 Levantine
0.25523291 Arabic
0.30254796 Berber
0.36476744 South_Asian
0.57745468 North_Asian
0.58224109 Amerindian
0.61029809 East_Asian
0.70843240 Amerindian
0.73918372 Sub_Saharan_African
0.77121696 Sub_Saharan_African
0.77909904 Sub_Saharan_African
0.95694082 Sub_Saharan_African

Target: LudovitKruzek_scaled
Distance: 2.0632% / 0.02063240 | ADC: 0.5x RC
49.4 Baltic
28.6 British
22.0 Hellenic

sorry ???:cool:

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Target: sample_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 1.6387% / 0.01638662 | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.8 Hellenic
34.0 Baltic
29.2 Italic
1.0 North_Asian

[Eurafricanid]

We got similar results!
What is the distance from your proxy to mine?

JingleBell_EuroProxy,0.10537002826087,0.1420089065 2174,0.02983332173913,-0.00834926956522,0.03115869782609,-0.01394888804348,-0.01021126630435,-0.00257781304348,0.03004724130435,0.03176342173913 ,0.00151884782609,0.00928964891304,-0.00068273804348,-0.01708881195652,0.00515347826087,0.00466520326087 ,-0.00353570434783,0.00584747608696,0.00557085869565 ,-0.00680171630435,0.00162773804348,-0.00024052391304,-0.00617754347826,-0.01820267717391,0.0006373576087

I don't have my proxy anymore, but here is your proxy compared to my EU coords:


<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurafricanid-EU


0.03423775
JingleBell_EuroProxy


</tbody>

Just a question, how close is your proxy from you?

[Jingle Bell]

I don't have my proxy anymore, but here is your proxy compared to my EU coords:


<tbody>
Distance to:
Eurafricanid-EU


0.03423775
JingleBell_EuroProxy


</tbody>

Just a question, how close is your proxy from you?

When i use MyProxy + SSA n Nativd i get 0.6 Distance

[Eurafricanid]

When i use MyProxy + SSA n Nativd i get 0.6 Distance

That's pretty high IMO.

[Jingle Bell]

That's pretty high IMO.

How can i lowrr the distance?

[Eurafricanid]

Double.

[Eurafricanid]

How can i lowrr the distance?
I might do that for you, I'm really bored anyways.

[Jingle Bell]

I might do that for you, I'm really bored anyways.

Rly? Tysm man
U need my coordinates or smth?

[Graham]

Target: Graham_scaled
Distance: 1.9649% / 0.01964933
97.4 British
2.6 Scandinavian

[Coastal Elite]

Target: Daco_scaled
Distance: 1.7342% / 0.01734225 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.2 British
35.6 Hellenic
24.2 Scandinavian

[Nausevar]

Target: Nausevar_scaled
Distance: 2.3452% / 0.02345220
42.0 Hellenic
34.4 Baltic
23.6 Italic

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 1.0706% / 0.01070573 | ADC: 0.25x
44.2 Baltic
39.2 Scandinavian
9.2 Italic
7.4 Hellenic

[someonenotyou]

Target:
Distance: 1.5633% / 0.01563310 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.0 Scandinavian
35.8 Hellenic
17.0 Baltic
2.2 Iranic

[Feiichy]

Target: FeiichyAncestryDNA
Distance: 3.1063% / 0.03106285

51.6 Baltic
35.6 Italic
8.8 Hellenic
3.8 Caucasian
0.2 East_Asian

[Nelju]

<tbody>
Target: Nelju_scaled
Distance: 1.6540% / 0.01653968




38.8
Amerindian


21.8
Iberian


19.6
British


6.6
Berber


6.0
Sub_Saharan_African


5.8
Levantine


1.2
Arabic


0.2
East_Asian



</tbody>

[Flashball]

With some additions of French samples (there were none)
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/02/7/1705206474-calculatorresults.png

[alexmegas777]

Distance to: alexmegas_scaled
0.05261880 Italic
0.05336879 Iberian
0.05616899 Hellenic
0.07421030 British
0.08179009 Scandinavian
0.11498771 Anatolian
0.12109671 Baltic
0.14193994 Levantine
0.14519464 Caucasian
0.16541262 Iranic
0.21079371 Arabic
0.26701556 Berber
0.36045811 South_Asian
0.58169908 North_Asian
0.59274076 Amerindian
0.61147412 East_Asian
0.71754717 Amerindian
0.73358756 Sub_Saharan_African
0.76438569 Sub_Saharan_African
0.77221549 Sub_Saharan_African
0.94809076 Sub_Saharan_African

Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.2625% / 0.02262456 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.0 Italic
30.8 Hellenic
27.2 Baltic

[Kess]

Target: kesseras_simulated_g25_scaled
Distance: 0.6935% / 0.00693484
61.2 Caucasian
12.2 Baltic
9.2 Iranic
6.4 Anatolian
3.0 Levantine
3.0 North_Asian
2.6 Scandinavian
1.6 East_Asian
0.8 Amerindian

Distance to: kesseras_simulated_g25_scaled
0.05433732 Caucasian
0.07136433 Anatolian
0.07291205 Iranic
0.08926200 Hellenic
0.09753012 Levantine
0.12129193 Italic
0.14304496 Iberian
0.15429369 British
0.16095180 Scandinavian
0.17829539 Arabic
0.19167907 Baltic
0.26899233 Berber
0.30360614 South_Asian
0.54137156 North_Asian
0.56150640 Amerindian
0.56727725 East_Asian
0.69413423 Amerindian
0.70224873 Sub_Saharan_African
0.73611582 Sub_Saharan_African
0.74468006 Sub_Saharan_African
0.92764980 Sub_Saharan_African

[Kenshiro]

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.1053% / 0.02105264
53.0 Hellenic
26.4 Italic
10.6 Caucasian
9.0 Iberian
0.6 North_Asian
0.4 Amerindian
Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 2.1112% / 0.02111167 | ADC: 0.25x RC
53.0 Hellenic
26.8 Italic
10.6 Caucasian
8.6 Iberian
1.0 Amerindian
Hellenic 53%, Italo-Iberian 35.4%, 10.6% Caucasian, 1% North Asian (Siberian-Like)
Greco-Roman 88.4%

[placebo]

Target: placebo
Distance: 0.9897% / 0.00989730 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.8 Caucasian
8.4 Baltic
5.8 Hellenic

Target: placebo
Distance: 0.9840% / 0.00983959
84.0 Caucasian
8.4 Baltic
5.2 Hellenic
1.2 Anatolian
1.2 Iranic

[Pedro Ruben]

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.8749% / 0.01874899 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.8 Iberian
24.0 British
9.0 Berber
7.6 Italic
4.0 Arabic
2.6 Sub_Saharan_African

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 1.9167% / 0.01916731 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.0 Iberian
13.6 Berber
7.6 Baltic
2.8 Sub_Saharan_African

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 1.7280% / 0.01728026 | ADC: 0.25x RC
81.6 Iberian
10.4 British
4.6 Berber
3.4 Sub_Saharan_African