View Full Version : Bichon-Pinarbasi Test G25
Upsilander
09-21-2024, 08:23 AM
So in this test you can only score Pinarbasi AHG or Bichon WHG. Then other non West Eurasian groups.
The distances are not going to be great (around 10-16 for most i guess) but it's not important here. It's only to see what else admixture would rather choose for you besides AHG and the most distinct WHG.
Bichon_WHG,0.121791,0.106631,0.197988,0.208982,0.1 67724,0.06 6376,0.014101,0.044767,0.115351,0.025149,-0.013316,-0.02203,0.019772,-0.022708,0.107626,0.116281,0.011213,0.01875,-0.010056,0.121058,0.21824,0.03994,-0.109444,-0.388368,0.034967
Pinarbasi_AHG,0.1205796,0.182879,0.0046507,-0.1007254,0.0553803,-0.0481473,-0.003243,-0.0059476,0.0417251,0.08825,0.0083913,0.0137577,-0.0241877,0.0027643,-0.0441575,-0.0149632,0.0187436,0.0020344,0.0126007,-0.0137085,-0.0145349,0.0058138,-0.0047895,-0.0018391,-0.0068301
Oceanian_Papuan,-0.0459844,-0.2410866,-0.2637584,0.3092414,0.2069308,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.0070152,-0.041273,-0.0119546,-0.018902,0.000869,0.0013974,-0.00311,0.0001628,-0.0003186,-0.0021906,-0.0018498,-0.001081,-0.0015256,0.0023458,0.0018052,0.0012324,0.0018314, 0.0016048
East_Asian,0.0229543,-0.445479,0.0130733,-0.059109,0.0362118,0.0093428,0.003525,0.0005768,-0.0065105,0.0106607,-0.0740492,-0.0074685,0.011546,-0.0070647,-0.0110612,-0.004464,0.0003042,0.0035895,0.001676,-0.0092547,0.0270355,-0.01659,0.0049093,0.003374,-0.0419723
African_Nigerian,-0.6321452,0.064613,0.02324,0.0182899,-0.0031929,0.0146768,-0.0412151,0.0464115,-0.0510541,0.0350349,0.0082612,-0.0014613,0.0233582,0.0032685,0.012147,-0.0095133,0.0067475,0.003294,0.006065,-0.0035332,0.0003899,0.0012829,-0.000724,-0.0002561,-0.000928
Only for LATAM
Amerindian_North,0.0529278,-0.328016,0.1120048,0.0774392,-0.1061738,-0.0184068,-0.1983488,-0.2347978,-0.0037325,-0.020137,0.0082817,-0.0034098,0.0063925,6.87e-05,-0.0151328,-0.004508,-0.0005215,0.0032622,0.0115015,0.0073472,0.0038682,-0.0107578,0.0027115,0.0062055,0.0092805
Amerindian_South,0.0498545,-0.3086191,0.1193211,0.098838,-0.1121441,-0.0159245,-0.296842,-0.3508006,-0.0166276,-0.0195176,-0.0068365,-0.003057,0.0034041,0.015345,-0.0076954,0.0067354,0.0066365,0.0004435,0.0031049, 0.0014885,-0.0015221,0.010164,-0.0033645,-0.0026509,-0.002407
No RP or ADC of course. Post the distance TAB as well (it's only 5).
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Athalafuns
09-21-2024, 09:14 AM
Target: RNB27
Distance: 11.6306% / 0.11630612
77.0 Pinarbasi_AHG
13.2 Bichon_WHG
6.2 East_Asian
3.6 African_Nigerian
Distance to: RNB27
0.16332587 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.59095397 Bichon_WHG
0.60883690 East_Asian
0.75366973 African_Nigerian
0.81297514 Oceanian_Papuan
Gallop
09-21-2024, 09:31 AM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 10.8865% / 0.10886471
76.4 Pinarbasi_AHG
14.0 Bichon_WHG
6.0 East_Asian
3.4 African_Nigerian
0.2 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.16083152 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.58458424 Bichon_WHG
0.60819161 East_Asian
0.75384503 African_Nigerian
0.80998283 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 10.2661% / 0.10266053
75.6 Pinarbasi_AHG
13.4 Bichon_WHG
7.8 Amerindian_North
3.2 African_Nigerian
Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.15933608 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.58468606 Bichon_WHG
0.60318873 Amerindian_North
0.60905674 East_Asian
0.68657811 Amerindian_South
0.75402406 African_Nigerian
0.81082711 Oceanian_Papuan
Master Race
Grace O'Malley
09-21-2024, 09:32 AM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 16.6386% / 0.16638612
70.0 Pinarbasi_AHG
17.0 Bichon_WHG
12.6 Amerindian_North
0.4 Oceanian_Papuan
Petalpusher
09-21-2024, 09:38 AM
I made a similar 'calc' years ago, with only Villabruna.
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 14.9490% / 0.14948971
78.8 Pinarbasi_AHG
16.4 Bichon_WHG
4.6 East_Asian
0.2 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: Petalpusher
Distance: 14.3341% / 0.14334103
76.4 Pinarbasi_AHG
15.6 Bichon_WHG
8.0 Amerindian_North
Distance to: Petalpusher
0.19267029 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.57963435 Bichon_WHG
0.61534380 Amerindian_North
0.63295182 East_Asian
0.69638747 Amerindian_South
0.79156345 African_Nigerian
0.82783363 Oceanian_Papuan
Beowulf
09-21-2024, 10:00 AM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.1242% / 0.12415549
78.5 Pinarbasi_AHG
12.6 Bichon_WHG
6.3 East_Asian
1.8 African_Nigerian
0.8 Oceanian_Papuan
EasternLusitanian
09-21-2024, 10:00 AM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0974% / 0.09736436
77.2 Pinarbasi_AHG
10.6 Bichon_WHG
7.9 Amerindian_North
3.6 African_Nigerian
0.7 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.1047% / 0.10471441
78.7 Pinarbasi_AHG
11.3 Bichon_WHG
4.5 East_Asian
4.0 African_Nigerian
1.5 Oceanian_Papuan
What could this oceanian be accounting for?
Gallop
09-21-2024, 10:02 AM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0974% / 0.09736436
77.2 Pinarbasi_AHG
10.6 Bichon_WHG
7.9 Amerindian_North
3.6 African_Nigerian
0.7 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.1047% / 0.10471441
78.7 Pinarbasi_AHG
11.3 Bichon_WHG
4.5 East_Asian
4.0 African_Nigerian
1.5 Oceanian_Papuan
What could this oceanian be accounting for?
A Carlitos Alcaraz. ;) Se encuentra también las Islas británicas y otros sitios supongo.
Upsilander
09-21-2024, 10:33 AM
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0974% / 0.09736436
77.2 Pinarbasi_AHG
10.6 Bichon_WHG
7.9 Amerindian_North
3.6 African_Nigerian
0.7 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.1047% / 0.10471441
78.7 Pinarbasi_AHG
11.3 Bichon_WHG
4.5 East_Asian
4.0 African_Nigerian
1.5 Oceanian_Papuan
What could this oceanian be accounting for?
Other countries avg score some too. It will just eat some with you add Amerindian in the run (only for LATAM)
Target: külföldiek/Ausländer:English
Distance: 16.6392% / 0.16639221
73.6 Pinarbasi_AHG
16.4 Bichon_WHG
7.6 East_Asian
1.4 African_Nigerian
1.0 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: külföldiek/Ausländer:Gujar_Punjab
Distance: 25.9593% / 0.25959312
53.4 Pinarbasi_AHG
25.2 East_Asian
7.4 African_Nigerian
7.2 Oceanian_Papuan
6.8 Bichon_WHG
Target: külföldiek/Ausländer:Swedish
Distance: 17.8834% / 0.17883420
70.0 Pinarbasi_AHG
18.2 Bichon_WHG
9.2 East_Asian
1.4 African_Nigerian
1.2 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: külföldiek/Ausländer:Russian_Pskov
Distance: 19.8246% / 0.19824646
66.6 Pinarbasi_AHG
20.2 Bichon_WHG
10.0 East_Asian
1.8 African_Nigerian
1.4 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: külföldiek/Ausländer:Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Distance: 10.5725% / 0.10572477
79.2 Pinarbasi_AHG
12.6 Bichon_WHG
5.2 East_Asian
2.4 African_Nigerian
0.6 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: Italian_Northeast
Distance: 12.4160% / 0.12415983
80.0 Pinarbasi_AHG
11.0 Bichon_WHG
6.8 East_Asian
1.4 African_Nigerian
0.8 Oceanian_Papuan
(Yes used Gixajo's set as quick backup run ;) )
Grace O'Malley
09-21-2024, 10:47 AM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 16.6386% / 0.16638612
70.0 Pinarbasi_AHG
17.0 Bichon_WHG
12.6 Amerindian_North
0.4 Oceanian_Papuan
Without Amerindian
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 17.6454% / 0.17645419
72.2 Pinarbasi_AHG
18.0 Bichon_WHG
7.8 East_Asian
1.4 Oceanian_Papuan
0.6 African_Nigerian
Even higher distance because Europeans are closer to North Amerindians than East Asian, Paupuan and Nigerian.
Upsilander
09-21-2024, 10:55 AM
Without Amerindian
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 17.6454% / 0.17645419
72.2 Pinarbasi_AHG
18.0 Bichon_WHG
7.8 East_Asian
1.4 Oceanian_Papuan
0.6 African_Nigerian
Even higher distance because Europeans are closer to North Amerindians than East Asian, Paupuan and Nigerian.
With East Asian it's close but Papuan and Nigerian yes
Distance to: Upsilander_Scaled
0.20949474 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.57767707 Bichon_WHG
0.60282753 Amerindian_North
0.62188645 East_Asian
0.68618814 Amerindian_South
0.78990532 African_Nigerian
0.82243844 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: cass
Distance: 16.6349% / 0.16634947
69.6 Pinarbasi_AHG
16.6 Bichon_WHG
12.8 Amerindian_North
0.8 African_Nigerian
0.2 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: cass
Distance: 17.5222% / 0.17522197
71.4 Pinarbasi_AHG
17.6 Bichon_WHG
9.0 East_Asian
1.2 African_Nigerian
0.8 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: cass
0.22939283 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.57558398 Bichon_WHG
0.60666713 East_Asian
0.77742033 African_Nigerian
0.81173564 Oceanian_Papuan
Tacitus
09-21-2024, 12:13 PM
Target: Tacitus_G25sim
Distance: 10.7616% / 0.10761627
84.2 Pinarbasi_AHG
6.8 Amerindian_North
5.8 Bichon_WHG
2.6 African_Nigerian
0.6 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: Tacitus_G25sim
Distance: 11.1621% / 0.11162147
85.0 Pinarbasi_AHG
6.4 Bichon_WHG
4.8 East_Asian
2.8 African_Nigerian
1.0 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Tacitus_G25sim
0.13256613 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.61481448 Amerindian_North
0.61827616 East_Asian
0.63569744 Bichon_WHG
0.69675109 Amerindian_South
0.76026027 African_Nigerian
0.81191574 Oceanian_Papuan
A few notes on the situation around the Baltic Sea.
Quite predictable degression of the EEF towards the Finns and their high EA admixture. The Balts, as usual, create their own WHG world together with the Yotvingians from Suwałki, Memel Prussians and Kashubians_1. Frisians traditionally surprise. The Proto-Slavs from Belarus surprise with the lack of correlation with the Papuans unlike the modern sample.
https://i.ibb.co/2g2cX9z/Zrzut-ekranu-21-9-2024-141420-vahaduo-github-io.jpg (https://ibb.co/3BXSt3x)
Upsilander
09-21-2024, 01:07 PM
A few notes on the situation around the Baltic Sea.
Quite predictable degression of the EEF towards the Finns and their high EA admixture. The Balts, as usual, create their own WHG world together with the Yotvingians from Suwałki, Memel Prussians and Kashubians_1. Frisians traditionally surprise. The Proto-Slavs from Belarus surprise with the lack of correlation with the Papuans unlike the modern sample.
Interesting the WHG seems to peek somewhere in south Lithuanian, and the Belarussian medevial that doesn't score Oceanian.
I found some Basques who scored nothing Oceanian and Nigerian. That might be the only ones in Europe (spoiler Sardinians do score both but low)
Target: Basque_Soule:7394
Distance: 12.1673% / 0.12167260
78.2 Pinarbasi_AHG
16.0 Bichon_WHG
5.8 East_Asian
Target: Basque_Soule:5808
Distance: 10.7325% / 0.10732538
78.8 Pinarbasi_AHG
16.8 Bichon_WHG
4.4 East_Asian
Target: Basque_Roncal:7995
Distance: 12.0257% / 0.12025728
78.4 Pinarbasi_AHG
16.2 Bichon_WHG
5.4 East_Asian
Target: Basque_Navarre_North:5991
Distance: 11.5055% / 0.11505527
79.0 Pinarbasi_AHG
16.2 Bichon_WHG
4.8 East_Asian
celticdragongod
09-21-2024, 01:08 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.22212460 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.58641948 Bichon_WHG
0.61174939 East_Asian
0.77937887 African_Nigerian
0.81367517 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 17.6167% / 0.17616746
73.6 Pinarbasi_AHG
16.0 Bichon_WHG
8.2 East_Asian
1.2 African_Nigerian
1.0 Oceanian_Papuan
Anatolya
09-21-2024, 01:29 PM
Target: Anatolya_scaled
Distance: 16.3269% / 0.16326945
78.8 Pinarbasi_AHG
11.8 East_Asian
4.0 African_Nigerian
2.8 Bichon_WHG
2.6 Oceanian_Papuan
vader
09-21-2024, 01:31 PM
Target: Algarvio_scaled
Distance: 10.2350% / 0.10235045
76.8 Pinarbasi_AHG
12.0 Bichon_WHG
6.6 East_Asian
4.2 African_Nigerian
0.4 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: Wife_scaled
Distance: 4.4361% / 0.04436066
41.8 Amerindian_South
37.0 Pinarbasi_AHG
12.0 Amerindian_North
4.6 African_Nigerian
4.6 Bichon_WHG
Flashball
09-21-2024, 01:51 PM
Target: Father(PicardieNorthernFrance)
Distance: 15.3724% / 0.15372391
75.2 Pinarbasi_AHG
14.8 Bichon_WHG
7.2 East_Asian
1.4 African_Nigerian
1.4 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Father(PicardieNorthernFrance)
0.19890809 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.58814249 Bichon_WHG
0.60957429 East_Asian
0.77299168 African_Nigerian
0.80809425 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: Mother(Sardinian+NorthernFrench)
Distance: 10.3173% / 0.10317288
82.8 Pinarbasi_AHG
9.8 Bichon_WHG
5.8 East_Asian
1.0 African_Nigerian
0.6 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Mother(Sardinian+NorthernFrench)
0.13490853 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.61218059 Bichon_WHG
0.61327897 East_Asian
0.77173204 African_Nigerian
0.81324896 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: MyselfNebula(75%NorthernFrench-25%Sardinian)
Distance: 11.9113% / 0.11911325
80.6 Pinarbasi_AHG
11.2 Bichon_WHG
6.6 East_Asian
1.2 African_Nigerian
0.4 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: MyselfNebula(75%NorthernFrench-25%Sardinian)
0.15430719 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.60490171 Bichon_WHG
0.61177685 East_Asian
0.77168139 African_Nigerian
0.81350341 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: Sister(75%NorthernFrench-25%Sardinian)
Distance: 11.7000% / 0.11700015
80.2 Pinarbasi_AHG
11.6 Bichon_WHG
6.0 East_Asian
1.4 African_Nigerian
0.8 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Sister(75%NorthernFrench-25%Sardinian)
0.15401173 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.60219884 Bichon_WHG
0.61179666 East_Asian
0.76985413 African_Nigerian
0.81127307 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: BrotherNebula(75%NorthernFrench-25%Sardinian)
Distance: 11.9925% / 0.11992532
78.8 Pinarbasi_AHG
13.0 Bichon_WHG
7.0 East_Asian
0.8 African_Nigerian
0.4 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: BrotherNebula(75%NorthernFrench-25%Sardinian)
0.16254261 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.59331959 Bichon_WHG
0.60904851 East_Asian
0.77338724 African_Nigerian
0.81230579 Oceanian_Papuan
Flashball
09-21-2024, 01:55 PM
Interesting the WHG seems to peek somewhere in south Lithuanian, and the Belarussian medevial that doesn't score Oceanian.
I found some Basques who scored nothing Oceanian and Nigerian. That might be the only ones in Europe (spoiler Sardinians do score both but low)
Target: Basque_Soule:7394
Distance: 12.1673% / 0.12167260
78.2 Pinarbasi_AHG
16.0 Bichon_WHG
5.8 East_Asian
Target: Basque_Soule:5808
Distance: 10.7325% / 0.10732538
78.8 Pinarbasi_AHG
16.8 Bichon_WHG
4.4 East_Asian
Target: Basque_Roncal:7995
Distance: 12.0257% / 0.12025728
78.4 Pinarbasi_AHG
16.2 Bichon_WHG
5.4 East_Asian
Target: Basque_Navarre_North:5991
Distance: 11.5055% / 0.11505527
79.0 Pinarbasi_AHG
16.2 Bichon_WHG
4.8 East_Asian
Target: Sardinian_North:GRC14339391
Distance: 5.5589% / 0.05558875
88.6 Pinarbasi_AHG
10.8 Bichon_WHG
0.6 African_Nigerian
Sardinian_North:GRC14339391,0.118376,0.176702,0.02 9793,-0.046512,0.066782,-0.025379,-0.00611,-0.003692,0.060539,0.079819,0.002761,0.015736,-0.036868,-0.026011,-0.013165,-0.004906,0,0.010895,0.00817,-0.02076,0.006114,0.005688,-0.011092,-0.028317,-0.001676
Upsilander
09-21-2024, 02:10 PM
Target: Sardinian_North:GRC14339391
Distance: 5.5589% / 0.05558875
88.6 Pinarbasi_AHG
10.8 Bichon_WHG
0.6 African_Nigerian
Sardinian_North:GRC14339391,0.118376,0.176702,0.02 9793,-0.046512,0.066782,-0.025379,-0.00611,-0.003692,0.060539,0.079819,0.002761,0.015736,-0.036868,-0.026011,-0.013165,-0.004906,0,0.010895,0.00817,-0.02076,0.006114,0.005688,-0.011092,-0.028317,-0.001676
Low/no Yamnaya, no East Asian.... My samples all had a bit though (one of the G25 collection)
Interesting the WHG seems to peek somewhere in south Lithuanian, and the Belarussian medevial that doesn't score Oceanian.
...
It's rather Latvia and Northern Samogitia. Interestingly, the WHG surplus belt circles Estonia through Pskov and reaches as far as Karelia. If I had to speculate, it could be Gravettian refugium.
https://i.ibb.co/R63fb6j/Zrzut-ekranu-21-9-2024-171053-vahaduo-github-io.jpg (https://ibb.co/LgxmRgN)
gixajo
09-21-2024, 03:26 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 11.1357% / 0.11135706
78.8 Pinarbasi_AHG
13.6 Bichon_WHG
4.8 East_Asian
1.6 African_Nigerian
1.2 Oceanian_Papuan
This bypassing of Estonia suggests one more conclusion.
Logic would dictate that the area of reduced EEF and increased WHG be associated with the more frequent occurrence of the Baltic anthropological type, which in the case of the Ugofins gravitates towards the extreme examples. Michalski clearly indicates a connection between the Baltic type and the cromagnioid, suggesting that this is 50% convergence. Unfortunately, Michalski's maps do not reach the areas of Lithuania proper (https://i.ibb.co/VCyPqzp/yl.jpg).
Pedro Ruben
09-21-2024, 10:32 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 11.3789% / 0.11378883
76.0 Pinarbasi_AHG
11.4 Bichon_WHG
6.4 African_Nigerian
6.2 East_Asian
Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 10.5297% / 0.10529713
75.2 Pinarbasi_AHG
11.4 Bichon_WHG
6.8 African_Nigerian
6.4 East_Asian
0.2 Oceanian_Papuan
Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 11.2657% / 0.11265702
76.4 Pinarbasi_AHG
12.2 Bichon_WHG
5.2 African_Nigerian
4.6 East_Asian
1.6 Oceanian_Papuan
keterpier
09-21-2024, 10:37 PM
Target: keterpier_scaled
Distance: 13.8633% / 0.13863281
78.6 Pinarbasi_AHG
12.8 East_Asian
3.4 African_Nigerian
3.2 Bichon_WHG
2.0 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: keterpier_scaled
0.17849100 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.57043073 East_Asian
0.65689811 Bichon_WHG
0.74704073 African_Nigerian
0.78547597 Oceanian_Papuan
Eurafricanid
09-21-2024, 11:27 PM
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 10.5283% / 0.10528289
79.4 Pinarbasi_AHG
12.4 Bichon_WHG
5.6 East_Asian
1.8 African_Nigerian
0.8 Oceanian_Papuan
Distance to: Eurafricanid-EU
0.14815572 Pinarbasi_AHG
0.59515613 Bichon_WHG
0.61125056 East_Asian
0.76471084 African_Nigerian
0.80956497 Oceanian_Papuan
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