MDLP World top 3 4-way

[ScandinavianCelt]

Gedmatch.com

Please select the last option NOT the World 22 but the one without a number.

Go to the Gedmatch Oracle four-way and please just copy and paste your top three four-way I'll show you what mine get with 23andMe and Ancestry:

23andMe

1 Swedish_V + Romania + Slovenian + Lithuanian_V @ 1.568937
2 Estonian + Romania + Welsh + Czech @ 1.586976
3 Estonian + Polish + Romania + French @ 1.623858

Ancestry

1 Latvian_V + Swedish_V + Romania + Orcadian @ 1.927807
2 Latvian_V + Romania + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.932055
3 German + Romania + Ukrainian-East + Orcadian @ 1.942277

I seem to always get a lot of Romanian on the calculators from this website especially on the oracle tool and I'm not so sure why it doesn't show up as much on the other calculators off of this website but I tend to get more Bulgarian and other places like Moldova and Serbia and I'm confused whether I actually have Romanian from this website or those other places from the other website and I'm wondering if you guys are getting consistent results on both websites with this calculator compared to other regional four-way you might try

I was thinking to post a ancient individuals k36 to try to compare maybe using 2x ADC with both raw and source data Target I might post that list here in a few minutes and edit this so you guys could compare your four-way on that calculator I noticed for me I had four different pieces at 2X and one of them appeared to be Romans but they were living in Zohor Slovakia.

Okay I found the list I originally found this list on this website it was posted by our friend here Russki:

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Use your best raw data for k36 I think the most accurate is probably an average if you have two data sets just to average the results seems to be the best in my opinion but the merged data also seems good and it's fun to see the differences if you run the whole chromosomes with each data set you have to compare percentages and what each set is really picking up cuz it can sometimes be quite different I'll try to make a chart later to share to show how different they could be

[Athalafuns]

It seems like a weird result.

1 Cypriot + Ire8 + Polish + Sardinian @ 0.973501
2 Ire8 + Latvian_V + Jew_Romania + Sardinian @ 1.027979
3 Sicilian + Lithuanian + Portugese + Portugese @ 1.041023

[Beowulf]

1 Macedonian + Sardinian + Greek_Cretan + Lithuanian @ 0.788550


​Target: BeowulfDistance: 5.4462% / 5.44617500
21.3 Croatia_Zadar
15.5 Germany_Bell_Beaker_Quedlinburg_I0806
10.0 Beaker_Iberia_I6623
8.6 Hungary_Hung2_P1_Polgar_Ferenci_hat
7.0 Poland_Suwalki_OxA_5931
6.4 Beaker_Iberia_I6587
6.3 Poland_Paluki_Neolithic_Globular_Amphora_Culture_I 2407
6.2 Bell_Beaker_Silesia_I6534
6.0 Spain_I3581_Andalusia
4.5 North_Africa_Taforalt1_12000-13000_BC
3.6 Greece_Minoan_I9128
3.1 Hungary_PF811_Polgar_Ferenci_hat_6300_6100_years_N 1a1a2_71%_Italian
1.2 Bell_Beaker_Poland_Malopolska_I4252
0.3 Germany_Tiefbrunn_Corded_Ware_4124_YBP_RISE436

[Xavier727]

1 Latvian_V + Bosnian + Norwegian_V + British @ 0.976651
2 Latvian_V + Bosnian + Norwegian_V + Orcadian @ 0.995408
3 Latvian_V + Norwegian_V + Austrian + Austrian @ 0.999343

[Geba]

1 German + Latvian + Ukrainian-East + Gagauz @ 0.820292
2 German + Ukrainian + Latvian + Gagauz @ 0.820940
3 Russian_South + Ukrainian_V + Bulgarian + Belarusian @ 0.830495

[Dick]

1 Austrian_derived + Belarusian_derived + Bulgarian_derived + Greek_Azov_derived @ 1.362409
2 Croatian_derived + Croatian_derived + Greek_Azov_derived + Ukrainian_V_derived @ 1.363466
3 Gagauz_derived + Greek_Azov_derived + Lithuanian_V_derived + Slovenian_derived @ 1.371026

[Kostek]

Grandfather:
1 Latvian_V + Latvian_V + Mordovian + British @ 2.113105
2 Estonian + Greek_Azov + Norwegian_V + Lithuanian_V @ 2.136084
3 Latvian_V + Latvian_V + Russian_South + German_V @ 2.151352

Me:
1 Latvian_V + Russian_South + Ukrainian_V + Ukrainian-Center @ 2.657803
2 Latvian_V + Russian_South + Ukrainian-Center + Ukrainian-Center @ 2.671096
3 Latvian_V + Ukrainian_V + Ukrainian-East + Ukrainian-Center @ 2.693195

[ScandinavianCelt]

Grandfather:
1 Latvian_V + Latvian_V + Mordovian + British @ 2.113105
2 Estonian + Greek_Azov + Norwegian_V + Lithuanian_V @ 2.136084
3 Latvian_V + Latvian_V + Russian_South + German_V @ 2.151352

Me:
1 Latvian_V + Russian_South + Ukrainian_V + Ukrainian-Center @ 2.657803
2 Latvian_V + Russian_South + Ukrainian-Center + Ukrainian-Center @ 2.671096
3 Latvian_V + Ukrainian_V + Ukrainian-East + Ukrainian-Center @ 2.693195

Do you know what the difference is when it says Latvian_V versus just Latvian? Also I think it's strange that I show Polish in one of my results but you don't show it in any of your results.

[Gallop]

Gallop Ancestry

1 Cypriot + Ire8 + Swedish_V + Sardinian @ 0.747755
2 Ire8 + Croatian_V + Sardinian + Greek_Cretan @ 0.789711
3 Cypriot + Ire8 + Swedish + Sardinian @ 0.942861

Father 23andMe

1 Gok4 + Jew_Algeria + German-North + German-North @ 1.718674
2 Gok4 + Jew_Algeria + Orcadian + Ukrainian-Center @ 1.795227
3 Gok4 + Sephardim + Sorb + German_V @ 1.797647
4 Gok4 + Jew_Italia + Sorb + German_V @ 1.806688




Ire8 and Gok4 I not undestander what is it.

[EasternLusitanian]

1 Karelian + Jew_Tunisia + Sardinian + Corsican @ 0.789115
2 Karelian + Jew_Libya + Sardinian + Corsican @ 0.845489
3 Finnish + Jew_Tunisia + Sardinian + Corsican @ 0.977004

[Gallop]

Gallop Ancestry

1 Cypriot + Ire8 + Swedish_V + Sardinian @ 0.747755
2 Ire8 + Croatian_V + Sardinian + Greek_Cretan @ 0.789711
3 Cypriot + Ire8 + Swedish + Sardinian @ 0.942861

Father 23andMe

1 Gok4 + Jew_Algeria + German-North + German-North @ 1.718674
2 Gok4 + Jew_Algeria + Orcadian + Ukrainian-Center @ 1.795227
3 Gok4 + Sephardim + Sorb + German_V @ 1.797647
4 Gok4 + Jew_Italia + Sorb + German_V @ 1.806688




Ire8 and Gok4 I not undestander what is it.

Well, there is an E-V22 there

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-4a613feee42c43fcd1dc6f1e6b53a4d4

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-genetics-of-Gokturks-Are-they-closer-to-East-Eurasians-or-West-Eurasians

[Fabricius]

1 Gok4 + Ashkenazim_V + Lumbee + Ukrainian-Center @ 2.163812
2 Gok4 + Lumbee + Latvian + Greek_Cretan @ 2.193604
3 Gok4 + Jew_Romania + Lumbee + Belarusian @ 2.206021


***


Target: Fabricius_k36sample
Distance: 550.9763% / 5.50976340
22.2 Scythian_scy311
11.6 Latvia_Inflanty_Kivutkalns164
10.2 Germany_Landau_an_der_Isar_Bell_Beaker_3900_YBP_RI SE562
9.4 Greece_Minoan_I9128
7.0 Hungary_PF811_Polgar_Ferenci_hat_6300_6100_years_N 1a1a2_71%_Italian
6.6 Beaker_Iberia_I6587
5.2 North_Africa_Taforalt1_12000-13000_BC
4.6 Bell_Beaker_Silesia_I6534
4.6 Greece_Neolithic_Rev5
4.2 Poland_Paluki_Neolithic_Globular_Amphora_Culture_I 2407
4.0 Romania_Pestera_Du_Oase_37000-42000_YBP
3.4 Scythian_DA195
2.6 Beaker_Iberia_I6471
1.8 Crusader_SI41_Kingdom_Of_Ierusalim
0.8 Poland_Suwalki_OxA_5931
0.6 North_Africa_Taforalt3_12000-13000_BC
0.4 England_EBA_I7630
0.2 Andronovo_RISE503
0.2 HG_Saqqaq_Qeqertarsuaq_Greenland_69.6%_Siberia
0.2 Peru_NA39_Laguna_de_los_Condores_1000_1500_AD
0.2 Spain_Islamic_1300-1500_AD_I8146

Target: Fabricius_k36sample
Distance: 641.0509% / 6.41050922 | R5P
45.2 Crusader_SI41_Kingdom_Of_Ierusalim
25.2 Spain_I3585_Andalusia
15.8 Sintashta_RISE394
11.0 Latvia_Inflanty_Kivutkalns25
2.8 Hungary_PF811_Polgar_Ferenci_hat_6300_6100_years_N 1a1a2_71%_Italian


Distance to: Fabricius_k36sample
13.61372102 Szolad_SZ45_Pannonian
14.29336559 Spain_Islamic_1100_AD_I7498
14.46674117 Scythian_DA195
14.46749114 France_Sarrebourg:R11554___AD_272
15.49462165 Germany_Lech_Valley_EBA:AITI_43
16.05893521 Crusader_SI41_Kingdom_Of_Ierusalim
16.08023943 Austria_Wels:R10665___AD_717
16.14504878 Spain_Morisco_I7424
16.19712011 Collegno_CL23_North_Italian
16.20290406 Ancient_Hungary_BR2
16.21371642 Germany_Lech_Valley_EBA:AITI_78
16.22159363 Germany_Hassleben:R11873___AD_450
16.38735183 Bell_Beaker_Silesia_I6582
16.64645308 Spain_I3585_Andalusia
16.66342102 Szolad_SZ36_Langobard_24%_Italian
17.21102554 Italy_Proto_Villanovian_Martinsicuro_R1
17.54760098 England_MBA_I3082
17.67830309 Germany_Lech_Valley_EBA:AITI_2
17.72845735 Croatia_Sipar:R3664___AD_751
17.97087366 Germany_Lech_Valley_EBA:AITI_72
18.05766873 Collegno_CL36_North_Italian
18.09386360 Germany_Hassleben:R11868___AD_450
18.35860289 Croatia_Zadar:R3745___AD_72
18.62017991 Szolad_SZ43_North_Italian
18.76980554 Collegno_CL53_670_AD_Langobard

[Fabricius]

Please, what is Gok4?

[ScandinavianCelt]

Well, there is an E-V22 there

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-4a613feee42c43fcd1dc6f1e6b53a4d4

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-genetics-of-Gokturks-Are-they-closer-to-East-Eurasians-or-West-Eurasians


Please, what is Gok4?

I believe, Gokhem, Sweden, ancient, not modern Swede.

[Ketchup]

We wuz Israelites?!!? haha no idea what population the Indian sample here represents. Buma appears to be Tibeto-Burman of some kind.

1 Buma + Indian + Jew_India + Kalash @ 4.620441
2 Khmer + Indian + Jew_India + Kalash @ 4.889050
3 Buma + Indian + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 4.938612

[cass]

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Swedish @ 1.997810
2 German-North @ 2.467149
3 Slovakian @ 3.344237
4 Swedish_V @ 3.747723
5 Norwegian_V @ 3.849069
6 Czech @ 3.901221
7 German @ 4.864949
8 Sorb @ 5.665664
9 CEU_V @ 6.294378
10 Slovenian @ 6.747356
11 Ukrainian-West @ 7.383694
12 Belarusian_V @ 7.614275
13 German_V @ 7.858994
14 Welsh @ 7.919230
15 Croatian_V @ 7.936876
16 Ukrainian_V @ 7.980617
17 Polish_V @ 8.584046
18 Ukrainian-Center @ 8.780502
19 Hungarian @ 8.855376
20 CEU @ 8.887565

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Polish_V +50% Orcadian @ 0.833238


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Polish_V +25% Orcadian +25% Orcadian @ 0.833238


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++
1 Welsh + Polish_V + Polish_V + Orcadian @ 0.698330
2 Slovakian + Lithuanian + Orcadian + British @ 0.701963
3 Welsh + Polish_V + Polish_V + British @ 0.728891
4 German-North + Lithuanian_V + Welsh + German_V @ 0.747486
5 Slovakian + Lithuanian + British + British @ 0.774203
6 Swedish + Lithuanian_V + Orcadian + German_V @ 0.789334
7 Belarusian + Orcadian + British + Sorb @ 0.789913


weird indeed

[Gallop]

I believe, Gokhem, Sweden, ancient, not modern Swede.

Confusing, I thought it was Gokturks.

[RyoHazuki]

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German-North +50% Serbian @ 2.027057


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% German-North +25% Gagauz +25% Austrian @ 1.789349


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Gagauz + CEU + Austrian + Sorb @ 1.658060
2 Gagauz + CEU + Sorb + German_V @ 1.688720
3 Gagauz + CEU + CEU + Ukrainian-Center @ 1.718163
4 German-North + Romania + German-South + Ukrainian-Center @ 1.724306

[ScandinavianCelt]

Well, there is an E-V22 there

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-4a613feee42c43fcd1dc6f1e6b53a4d4

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-genetics-of-Gokturks-Are-they-closer-to-East-Eurasians-or-West-Eurasians


Please, what is Gok4?

https://dienekes.blogspot.com/2014/05/ancient-dna-from-balkans-iron-age-thrace.html

The results of the analyses including additional ancient genomes provide mounting evidence that the Iceman's genetic affinity with Sardinians reflects an ancestry component that was widespread in Europe during the Neolithic. Despite their different geographic origins, both the Swedish farmer gok4 and the Thracian P192-1 closely resemble the Iceman in their relationship with Sardinians, making it unlikely that all three individuals were recent migrants from Sardinia. Furthermore, P192-1 is an Iron Age individual from well after the arrival of the first farmers in Southeastern Europe (more than 2,000 years after the Iceman and gok4), perhaps indicating genetic continuity with the early farmers in this region. The only non-HG individual not following this pattern is K8 from Bulgaria. Interestingly, this individual was excavated from an aristocratic inhumation burial containing rich grave goods, indicating a high social standing, as opposed to the other individual, who was found in a pit [15]. However, the DNA damage pattern of this individual does not appear to be typical of ancient samples (Table S4 in [15]), indicating a potentially higher level of modern DNA contamination. On the other hand, the Swedish and the Iberian hunter-gatherers show congruent patterns of relatedness to the modern populations of Northern Europe, which is consistent with the previous results using those samples.

[Vessna]

1 Croatian_V + Russian + Ukrainian + Latvian @ 1.605189
2 Bosnian + Russian_V + Latvian + Lithuanian @ 1.608693
3 Croatian_V + Russian_cossack + Russian + Latvian @ 1.617336

[mongee]

1 Tatar_Lithuania + Azeri + Lebanese + Georgian_Laz @ 1.038543
2 Tatar_Lithuania + Azeri + Druze + Georgian_Laz @ 1.116559
3 Tatar_Lithuania + Turk + Jew_Kurd + Georgian_Laz @ 1.140723
4 Jew-Iraqi + Turkmen + Ossetian + Ashkenazim_V @ 1.268726

[Eurafricanid]

1 Otzi + Lemba + Bantu + Mordovian_V @ 4.482103
2 Latvian_V + Otzi + Lemba + Bantu @ 4.486740
3 Otzi + Croatian_V + Lemba + Bantu @ 4.621571