Genetic distances to the unpublished Sumerian sample.

[Bulkster]

It is low coverage so it is noisy.. will be further out in distance than a good high quality average

Will post the Jewish burials from Jerusalem, Modin, etc later. Interestingly some have Ancient Egyptian ancestry (Modin)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3TlgNdbYAAJDIN?format=jpg&name=medium
https://x.com/MiroCyo/status/1978458568543048191/photo/1

This confirms it; they were brown people.

[userNa]

Interesting.

[Bulkster]

Interesting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUcTsFe1PVs

[Opie]

I actually wonder about Sumerian genetics. Any good source on that?

[Bulkster]

I actually wonder about Sumerian genetics. Any good source on that?

You can ask Miro C on twitter if you want
https://x.com/MiroCyo/status/1978458568543048191

[Opie]

You can ask Miro C on twitter if you want
https://x.com/MiroCyo/status/1978458568543048191

Ok thx

[Gannicus]

Wouldn't mind getting those G25 coords. Hopefully IllustrativeDNA will add it and the Old Kingdom Egyptian NUE001 to their qpAdm dataset.

[Bulkster]

Wouldn't mind getting those G25 coords. Hopefully IllustrativeDNA will add it and the Old Kingdom Egyptian NUE001 to their qpAdm dataset.

You can ask Miro if he can share them with you, but otherwise we need to wait for the study to be published.
https://x.com/MiroCyo

[Eurafricanid]

This confirms it; they were brown people.

No shit!

[Dardanos]

No shit!

There are many people who believe in foolish ideas
There was a myth created by Germanic Europeans in the 19 and 20 century about how everything of value in the Middle East and Asia came from Aryan blue eyed people because brown people supposedly could not achieve it

[Bulkster]

There are many people who believe in foolish ideas
There was a myth created by Germanic Europeans in the 19 and 20 century about how everything of value in the Middle East and Asia came from Aryan blue eyed people because brown people supposedly could not achieve it

It's all BS really as we have genetic evidence from the MENA world that our ancestors were neither Whites or Blacks.

[Dardanos]

It's all BS really as we have genetic evidence from the MENA world that our ancestors were neither Whites or Blacks.

Yes, I have another question. Are most Iraqi Jews local converts. It seems that besides Levantine Jews, most other groups have a lot of foreign ancestry, and some are made up almost entirely of converts such as Yemenites and Ethiopians.

[Bulkster]

Yes, I have another question. Are most Iraqi Jews local converts. It seems that besides Levantine Jews, most other groups have a lot of foreign ancestry, and some are made up almost entirely of converts such as Yemenites and Ethiopians.

Yes! they are of local Mesopotamia origins.

Kurdish and Iraqi Jews are predominantly Mesopotamian genetically

East Semites (Akkadians, Assyrians) and Sumerians are the basal reference for Bronze Age Mesopotamians

Don’t confuse relatedness, ancestry, culture, and ethnicity. All overlap but all are different https://x.com/iraqi_jasour/s/iraqi_jasour/status/1978922446418772075
https://x.com/MiroCyo/status/1978923020887507006

[Smeagol]

Just as Coon wrote in 1939. Sumerian civilization evolved locally and to a large extent are the ancestors of the modern people of the region. Genetics once again backs up Coon's work.

[Dardanos]

Yes! they are of local Mesopotamia origins.

Which Jewish groups are the most "pure"?
Samaritans?
Jews from Palestine who never migrated out?

It seems the average Israeli has a weaker argument than Balkan Slavs when it comes to genetics.

Sorry for polluting the thread.

[Dardanos]

Just as Coon wrote in 1939. Sumerian civilization evolved locally and to a large extent are the ancestors of the modern people of the region. Genetics once again backs up Coon's work.

Serbs are allergic to Coon’s works, they hate him in large numbers.

[Smeagol]

Serbs are allergic to Coon’s works, they hate him in large numbers.

What do Albanians think?

[Bulkster]

Just as Coon wrote in 1939. Sumerian civilization evolved locally and to a large extent are the ancestors of the modern people of the region. Genetics once again backs up Coon's work.

He was an excellent human anthropologist. Some reconstructions:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLuyPAnXMAQPaf1?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlAXJHgWYAEPXC7?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FaOnTo2WIAEh5tr?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDcCePYXMAUufQl?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKPC8jW4skE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PbwReDHGfw

[Bulkster]

Which Jewish groups are the most "pure"?
Samaritans?
Jews from Palestine who never migrated out?

It seems the average Israeli has a weaker argument than Balkan Slavs when it comes to genetics.

Sorry for polluting the thread.

Syrian and Keraite Jews are more native than Palestinian Muslims, but Muslims are more native than Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews. The most "pure" of Jews..or say Israelite grouping are modern day Samaritans. In other words, Jesus would have looked a lot like them:
https://static.timesofisrael.com/jewishchronicle/uploads/2014/12/7MAQ_the_senior_cantor_leading_the_processional_da le_lazar_credit-640x400.jpg
https://africame.factsanddetails.com/archives/001/202309/2c5472c02173d481.jpg
https://img.haarets.co.il/bs/0000017f-f4a5-d044-adff-f7fdfeb00000/56/00/e33ed92a69548a4dfe63b22ad936/1018316866.jpg?precrop=1350,1349,x20,y79

[Dardanos]

What do Albanians think?

Albanians like him very much, he said things that modern genetics is now confirming about us, he believed in Illyrian continuity and that Albanian males had the least Slavic phenotypical input, he also admired our tribal system and the social and moral traits of our society and viewed them as preserved Indo European social structures

He also proposed that the Dinarid type is a Bronze Age and Iron Age emergent phenotype among Western Balkan populations and that Gheg Albanians are the purest form of the Dinarid race

He described Ghegs as the tallest people in Europe in the 1930s, the average height he measured was 170 to 173 which at that time was very tall, the book he published about Albanian anthropological studies was titled "The Mountains of Giants (1950)"

It seems that stress, trauma, wars and later famine and low caloric intake under communism damaged our growth.
But it seems that Albanians are slowly making a comeback and have been growing a lot in the last 20 years

[Bulkster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAMRTGv82Zo

[happycow]

y dna was supposedly G2a. Just like me :cool:

[Bulkster]

y dna was supposedly G2a. Just like me :cool:

Do you want to go and start farming, dude?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu8MeftG92Y

[happycow]

Do you want to go and start farming, dude?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu8MeftG92Y

It is my dream to get the fuck out of the city and into the country. Absolutely.

[Peterski]

Which study is this sample from? I want to download his genome.

[Bulkster]

Which study is this sample from? I want to download his genome.

Unfortunately, it's from a study that is yet to be published. Miro was given the data from one of the leading authors of the upcoming papers, Dr. Ron Pinashi. You can ask Miro for the doctor's email if you can convince the doctor to give it to you.
https://x.com/MiroCyo/status/1978913897210876378