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Peterski
03-07-2026, 03:40 PM
Compare yourself with White Latin American & White Caribbean populations in Eurogenes K15:

https://pastebin.com/WN6LiaWC

Use Vahaduo - https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

Use this tool to generate simulated G25 coordinates from K15:

https://allelocator.ovh/simulatedg25.html

I used only people who are over 90% Caucasian genetically and at least 5 samples per country.
This is why for many countries there are no averages because there were fewer than 5 samples.

Peterski
03-07-2026, 04:18 PM
Distances when using the official datasheet from GEDmatch:


Distance to: Argentina_White(n=502)
4.48294546 North_Italian
8.29666801 Tuscan
9.73227620 Portuguese
9.87144873 Spanish_Extremadura
10.34453479 Spanish_Murcia
10.76724663 Spanish_Galicia
11.17357597 Spanish_Cataluna
11.33315931 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
12.02631282 Spanish_Andalucia
12.75918493 Spanish_Valencia


Distance to: Brazil_White(n=616)
5.38956399 Portuguese
6.25909738 Spanish_Extremadura
6.37441762 Spanish_Galicia
6.87835736 Spanish_Murcia
6.91340726 Spanish_Cataluna
7.11267179 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
7.23584135 North_Italian
9.75786862 Spanish_Valencia
9.87666948 Spanish_Andalucia
10.59936791 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha


Distance to: Chile_White(n=24)
4.74097036 Spanish_Cataluna
5.47303389 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
5.87489574 Portuguese
6.46261557 Spanish_Murcia
6.63258622 Spanish_Galicia
6.67104939 Spanish_Extremadura
8.24929088 Spanish_Cantabria
8.53916858 Spanish_Valencia
8.74723385 French
9.02145221 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha


Distance to: Colombia_White(n=10)
7.17055089 North_Italian
8.30418569 Spanish_Extremadura
8.77635460 Spanish_Murcia
9.38173758 Portuguese
10.05608274 Spanish_Andalucia
10.55704030 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
10.91483394 Spanish_Cataluna
11.06395951 Spanish_Valencia
11.09454821 Spanish_Galicia
11.11430160 Tuscan


Distance to: Cuba_White(n=247)
3.42883362 Spanish_Extremadura
3.62621014 Portuguese
4.02000000 Spanish_Murcia
4.99942997 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
5.75320780 Spanish_Cataluna
5.84641771 Spanish_Galicia
7.41977089 Spanish_Valencia
7.42701824 Spanish_Andalucia
7.84871964 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
8.53338151 Spanish_Cantabria


Distance to: Mexico_White(n=11)
7.35747239 Spanish_Extremadura
7.58154997 Spanish_Murcia
8.20321279 Portuguese
8.63740702 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
8.85259849 Spanish_Cataluna
9.40632234 North_Italian
9.45703442 Spanish_Valencia
9.47142545 Spanish_Andalucia
9.82401649 Spanish_Galicia
10.00931067 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha


Distance to: Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
6.61435560 Portuguese
6.92925681 Spanish_Extremadura
7.49312351 Spanish_Murcia
7.52304460 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
7.60604365 Spanish_Galicia
7.74615388 Spanish_Cataluna
7.97520533 North_Italian
10.16922318 Spanish_Andalucia
10.20798217 Spanish_Valencia
10.78752520 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha


Distance to: Uruguay_White(n=109)
5.65983215 Portuguese
5.83066034 Spanish_Extremadura
5.85683362 North_Italian
6.24980800 Spanish_Murcia
7.22738542 Spanish_Galicia
7.29704050 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
7.39578934 Spanish_Cataluna
9.04898337 Spanish_Andalucia
9.33273272 Spanish_Valencia
10.19118737 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha


Distance to: Venezuela_White(n=5)
5.73125641 Spanish_Extremadura
6.06603660 Spanish_Murcia
6.23701852 North_Italian
6.72739177 Portuguese
7.53319321 Spanish_Andalucia
7.97363781 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
8.33597025 Spanish_Cataluna
8.39176978 Spanish_Valencia
8.86502115 Spanish_Galicia
9.15330541 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha


Distance to: Bahamas_White(n=5)
3.88391555 Southwest_English
5.26980076 Southeast_English
6.45629925 South_Dutch
6.88536128 North_Dutch
6.98499105 Irish
7.10459710 Orcadian
7.21624556 West_Scottish
7.25469503 Danish
7.46125995 North_German
7.71584733 West_German

Fabricius
03-07-2026, 04:42 PM
I'm surprised about how white was this Puerto-Rican sample. I have guessed I would score Cuban (Cuban Whites are really whites) or Argentinian.

Target: Fabricius_K15
Distance: 810.4853% / 8.10485338
63.4 Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
29.2 Brazil_White(n=616)
7.4 Bahamas_White(n=5)

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Comparison between me and puertorriqueño blanco (this individual is whiter than me):

Target: Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
Distance: 251.1246% / 2.51124646 | R3P
54.8 French_Provence_outlier
41.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
3.6 Karitiana

Target: Fabricius_K15
Distance: 263.1903% / 2.63190308 | R3P
64.4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
27.8 Austrian
7.8 Mandenka

Fabricius
03-07-2026, 04:45 PM
Target: Bahamas_White(n=5)
Distance: 149.5312% / 1.49531190 | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.2 English_Southwest
4.0 Ossetian
1.8 Yoruban
1.0 Sardinian

Target: Venezuela_White(n=5)
Distance: 104.3974% / 1.04397363 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.0 Spanish_Murcia
27.6 Spanish_Extremadura
12.4 France_Corsica
8.0 Italy_Liguria
5.8 Spanish_Andalucia
4.2 Tuscan
3.2 Anzick-1
2.8 Tunisian

Target: Uruguay_White(n=109)
Distance: 38.0648% / 0.38064795 | ADC: 0.25x RC
34.6 French_Provence_outlier
23.4 Spanish_Murcia
16.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
8.0 Italy_Liguria
5.6 Portuguese
5.0 Tunisian
4.4 Italy_Friuli
2.4 Mayan

Target: Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
Distance: 90.2299% / 0.90229888 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.6 Italy_Piedmont
36.0 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
3.6 Pima
2.4 Bantu_N.E.
2.4 Saudi

Target: Mexico_White(n=11)
Distance: 128.7552% / 1.28755173 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.0 Spanish_Extremadura
21.4 Spanish_Murcia
17.4 Spanish_Valencia
10.4 Austrian
7.0 Sephardic_Jewish
5.8 Anzick-1

Target: Cuba_White(n=247)
Distance: 67.9472% / 0.67947178 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.4 Spanish_Murcia
42.4 Portuguese
4.2 Tunisian
3.2 Italy_Trentino
1.6 Mayan
1.0 Mandenka
0.2 Karitiana

Target: Colombia_White(n=10)
Distance: 159.8593% / 1.59859305 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.6 Spanish_Extremadura
24.0 Spanish_Murcia
12.6 Sephardic_Jewish
10.8 Tuscan
3.6 Anzick-1
1.4 Mayan

Target: Chile_White(n=24)
Distance: 87.3077% / 0.87307731 | ADC: 0.25x RC
27.4 Spanish_Murcia
26.4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
20.2 French_South
16.0 French_Central
5.8 Swedish_Aland
3.2 Karitiana
1.0 Spanish_Cataluna

Target: Brazil_White(n=616)
Distance: 68.5572% / 0.68557195 | ADC: 0.25x RC
30.4 Portuguese
24.0 Italy_Friuli
19.0 Spanish_Murcia
13.0 French_Provence_outlier
5.6 Spanish_Extremadura
4.4 Austrian
2.0 Mayan
0.8 Bantu_S.E.
0.6 Bantu_N.E.
0.2 North_Amerindian

Target: Argentina_White(n=502)
Distance: 55.0801% / 0.55080145 | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.4 French_Provence_outlier
28.0 Tuscan
18.6 Italy_Friuli
11.4 Spanish_Murcia
2.2 Pima
1.8 Spanish_Andalucia
1.6 Spanish_Extremadura
1.0 Ethiopian_Amhara

Peterski
03-07-2026, 05:03 PM
^^^
What if you exclude this French_Provence_outlier sample?

Fabricius
03-07-2026, 05:34 PM
^^^
What if you exclude this French_Provence_outlier sample?

Seems more realistic:

Target: Bahamas_White(n=5)
Distance: 149.5312% / 1.49531190 | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.2 English_Southwest
4.0 Ossetian
1.8 Yoruban
1.0 Sardinian

Target: Venezuela_White(n=5)
Distance: 104.3974% / 1.04397363 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.0 Spanish_Murcia
27.6 Spanish_Extremadura
12.4 France_Corsica
8.0 Italy_Liguria
5.8 Spanish_Andalucia
4.2 Tuscan
3.2 Anzick-1
2.8 Tunisian

Target: Uruguay_White(n=109)
Distance: 53.1707% / 0.53170748 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.6 Spanish_Murcia
15.4 Italy_Friuli
14.8 Portuguese
14.0 Italy_Piedmont
10.4 Italy_Lombardy
3.0 Egyptian
2.2 Mayan
1.4 Tunisian
0.2 North_Amerindian

Target: Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
Distance: 90.2299% / 0.90229888 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.6 Italy_Piedmont
36.0 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
3.6 Pima
2.4 Bantu_N.E.
2.4 Saudi

Target: Mexico_White(n=11)
Distance: 129.8768% / 1.29876825 | ADC: 0.25x RC
26.6 Spanish_Extremadura
26.4 Spanish_Murcia
26.2 Spanish_Valencia
7.2 Austrian
5.8 Anzick-1
3.4 Saudi
2.4 Serbian
2.0 Greek_Peloponese

Target: Cuba_White(n=247)
Distance: 70.1126% / 0.70112581 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.8 Portuguese
45.6 Spanish_Murcia
4.0 Tunisian
1.8 Italy_Friuli
1.4 Mayan
1.0 Yoruban
0.4 Karitiana

Target: Colombia_White(n=10)
Distance: 159.8593% / 1.59859305 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.6 Spanish_Extremadura
24.0 Spanish_Murcia
12.6 Sephardic_Jewish
10.8 Tuscan
3.6 Anzick-1
1.4 Mayan

Target: Chile_White(n=24)
Distance: 93.8725% / 0.93872516 | ADC: 0.25x RC
27.6 Spanish_Murcia
24.0 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
21.8 French_South
18.8 French_Central
4.8 Finnish_Southwest
3.0 Karitiana

Target: Brazil_White(n=616)
Distance: 78.5919% / 0.78591875 | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.6 Portuguese
33.2 Italy_Friuli
24.2 Spanish_Murcia
3.4 Austrian
2.0 Pima
1.4 Bantu_N.E.
0.2 North_Amerindian

Target: Argentina_White(n=502)
Distance: 82.1572% / 0.82157249 | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.8 Italy_Liguria
22.6 Italy_Friuli
21.0 Italy_Piedmont
14.8 Spanish_Murcia
2.8 Saudi
2.0 Pima
0.8 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.2 North_Amerindian



I mean, it's more realistic, if we are looking for the ancestors of the Latin-Americans.
The calculator is not wrong -- It is just the Celtic+Germanic+Mediterranean thing.

Fabricius
03-07-2026, 05:51 PM
^^^
What if you exclude this French_Provence_outlier sample?

Peterski, I was reading here, French doesn't seem historically wrong for white Puerto Rican (as it appeared in the R3P result). The French fled Haiti to Puerto Rico after the revolt of the Haitians.

Peterski
03-09-2026, 10:01 PM
I added Native American and African compatibility to the datasheet.

Bulkster
03-09-2026, 10:08 PM
Target: Moody_scaled
Distance: 1.2059% / 0.01205936
52.2 Israel_BA(n=8)
16.4 Mingrelian(n=24)
16.2 Sephardic(n=16)
3.4 Mota_I5950(n=1)
3.0 Paniya(n=22)
2.6 Argentina_White(n=502)
1.4 Sardinia_BA(n=15)
1.2 Mexico_White(n=11)
1.2 Saudi(n=24)
1.2 Uruguay_White(n=109)
1.0 Maori(n=2)
0.2 Yoruba(n=8)


Distance to: Moody_scaled
0.05212264 Israel_BA(n=8)
0.05657586 Sephardic(n=16)
0.07238427 Ashkenazi(n=471)
0.11609509 Mingrelian(n=24)
0.12288487 Saudi(n=24)
0.12501137 Colombia_White(n=10)
0.12667874 Argentina_White(n=502)
0.13227079 Venezuela_White(n=5)
0.13300712 Uruguay_White(n=109)
0.13354973 Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
0.13562887 Cuba_White(n=247)
0.13708655 Brazil_White(n=616)
0.13976678 Mexico_White(n=11)
0.15686724 Chile_White(n=24)
0.16914056 Sardinia_BA(n=15)
0.17637739 Gasconian(n=55)
0.18307650 Bahamas_White(n=5)
0.20338193 Norwegian(n=41)
0.26333081 Latvia_BA(n=10)
0.29035127 Mari(n=15)
0.40615711 Paniya(n=22)
0.57563631 Maori(n=2)
0.57751774 Yakut(n=30)
0.60523727 Mapuche(n=12)
0.60680999 Aborigine(n=14)

Dardanos
03-09-2026, 10:13 PM
Target: Moody_scaled
Distance: 1.2059% / 0.01205936
52.2 Israel_BA(n=8)
16.4 Mingrelian(n=24)
16.2 Sephardic(n=16)
3.4 Mota_I5950(n=1)
3.0 Paniya(n=22)
2.6 Argentina_White(n=502)
1.4 Sardinia_BA(n=15)
1.2 Mexico_White(n=11)
1.2 Saudi(n=24)
1.2 Uruguay_White(n=109)
1.0 Maori(n=2)
0.2 Yoruba(n=8)


Distance to: Moody_scaled
0.05212264 Israel_BA(n=8)
0.05657586 Sephardic(n=16)
0.07238427 Ashkenazi(n=471)
0.11609509 Mingrelian(n=24)
0.12288487 Saudi(n=24)
0.12501137 Colombia_White(n=10)
0.12667874 Argentina_White(n=502)
0.13227079 Venezuela_White(n=5)
0.13300712 Uruguay_White(n=109)
0.13354973 Puerto_Rico_White(n=24)
0.13562887 Cuba_White(n=247)
0.13708655 Brazil_White(n=616)
0.13976678 Mexico_White(n=11)
0.15686724 Chile_White(n=24)
0.16914056 Sardinia_BA(n=15)
0.17637739 Gasconian(n=55)
0.18307650 Bahamas_White(n=5)
0.20338193 Norwegian(n=41)
0.26333081 Latvia_BA(n=10)
0.29035127 Mari(n=15)
0.40615711 Paniya(n=22)
0.57563631 Maori(n=2)
0.57751774 Yakut(n=30)
0.60523727 Mapuche(n=12)
0.60680999 Aborigine(n=14)


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Bulkster
03-09-2026, 11:01 PM
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03-09-2026, 11:01 PM
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