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Fabricius
03-07-2026, 06:55 PM
Would anyone have any Old-Prussian coordinates (the original, Baltic ones) be it G25, or K13, K15, K36, whatever?

I know they cremated the dead, but maybe they tested someone killed in combat, for example.

Fabricius
03-07-2026, 07:20 PM
I did not find on internet.
I asked Google and got the following answer:


Old Prussian (Baltic) G25 coordinates
represent an Iron Age to Medieval Baltic genetic profile, closely aligned with modern Lithuanians and Latvians, and often modeled alongside Baltic_EST_IA (Estonian Iron Age). These populations are characterized by high levels of Steppe-related ancestry and significantly lower hunter-gatherer or farmer admixture compared to Western European groups.
Representative Baltic G25 Sample (Scaled)
Note: These are representative, derived from Baltic Iron Age/Medieval datasets.

Sample (Example - Similar to old-prussians/balts):
Scale: Scaled
Coordinates: 0.0113, 0.0105, 0.0249, 0.0288, 0.0141, 0.0116, 0.0041, 0.0057, 0.0010, -0.0199, 0.0033, -0.0081, 0.0149, 0.0108, -0.0043, 0.0062, 0.0080, -0.0005, 0.0026, 0.0089, 0.0049, -0.0019, 0.0023, -0.0098, -0.0018

Key Characteristics

Genetic Position: Highly similar to Iron Age to Middle Ages (IA/MA) Baltic populations (e.g., Baltic_EST_IA, Baltic_LTU_BA).
Admixture: High "Baltic" autosomal component, distinct from Slavic or Germanic, but sharing significant Corded Ware ancestry.
Source: These coordinates are typically utilized in Vahaduo/G25 modeling for ancestry analysis, specifically to distinguish Eastern Baltic ancestry from Central/Western European, as shown in these discussions.

Proxies for Modeling Old Prussians:

Baltic_EST_IA (Estonian Iron Age)
Baltic_LVA_BA (Latvian Bronze Age)
Baltic_LTU_BA (Lithuanian Bronze Age)
VK2020_POL_Cedynia_VA (Migration Period Poland)


The coordinates Google gave me is bullshit!
WTF?!

Sample(Example-Similar-to-old-prussians/balts)Scaled_Coordinates,0.0113,0.0105,0.0249,0.02 88,0.0141,0.0116,0.0041,0.0057,0.0010,-0.0199,0.0033,-0.0081,0.0149,0.0108,-0.0043,0.0062,0.0080,-0.0005,0.0026,0.0089,0.0049,-0.0019,0.0023,-0.0098,-0.0018

Target: Sample(Example-Similar-to-old-prussians/balts)Scaled_Coordinates
Distance: 1.1410% / 0.01140954 | ADC: 0.25x RC
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10.6 Estonia_BA.SG:s19_X17_2_noUDG.SG
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