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celticdragongod
03-25-2026, 11:11 PM
England_Bell_Beaker,0.112685,0.137096,0.05242,0.03 8114,0.035698,0.015339,0.003525,0.003692,0.003681,-0.00164,0.001949,0.001499,-0.00996,0.000138,0.016015,0.0118,0.000652,-0.000507,-0.001885,-0.00025,0.006988,0.001731,-0.003944,0.003133,-0.002275
Scotland_Bell_Beaker,0.1235,0.1376,0.0573,0.0407,0 .0391,0.0142,0.0033,0.0028,0.0061,0.0011,-0.0018,0.0031,-0.0135,-0.0051,0.0212,0.0076,-0.0094,0.0023,0.0031,0.0044,0.0065,0.0031,-0.0005,0.0116,0.0007
Netherlands_Bell_Beaker,0.1195,0.1412,0.0509,0.039 4,0.0385,0.0173,0.0028,0.0051,0.0072,0.0040,0.0011 ,0.0030,-0.0125,-0.0014,0.0187,0.0086,-0.0063,0.0013,0.0013,0.0053,0.0062,0.0037,-0.0012,0.0098,0.0018
VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA,0.129758,0.133034,0.070522,0 .05814,0.041546,0.024263,0.00564,0.008307,0.006136 ,-0.005649,-0.00341,0.002698,-0.006541,-0.01101,0.019544,0.007823,-0.009127,0.00152,-0.002011,0.004002,0.007986,0.003462,-0.002958,0.013857,0.00012
VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA,0.12862,0.128972,0.073539,0.06 1047,0.043085,0.026495,0.0047,0.009461,0.002454,-0.01221,-0.005684,0.000899,-0.007582,-0.008808,0.025244,0.008883,-0.012256,0.004434,0.003645,0.01013,0.008859,0.0030 91,-0.000123,0.016388,-0.001317
SWE_IA_oll007,0.134311,0.126941,0.076933,0.065246, 0.040931,0.027052,0.00799,0.009692,0.000818,-0.010205,-0.00747,0.002098,-0.00669,-0.013349,0.027008,0.012994,-0.00678,0.004814,0.005656,0.012381,0.008235,0.0046 99,-0.001725,0.017111,-0.00012


Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02487287 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.02725267 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.03169483 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
0.03201564 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.03757913 SWE_IA_oll007
0.04314603 England_Bell_Beaker

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.1048% / 0.02104787
63.4 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
15.6 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
11.4 SWE_IA_oll007
9.6 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA

Figaro
03-25-2026, 11:39 PM
Distance to: Figaro
0.03328245 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.03424083 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.03476425 England_Bell_Beaker
0.03974164 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.04579759 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
0.05183071 SWE_IA_oll007


Target: Figaro
Distance: 3.0808% / 0.03080850
48.8 England_Bell_Beaker
23.4 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
22.2 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
5.6 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA

cass
03-26-2026, 06:13 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 3.9408% / 0.03940769
41.6 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
39.2 England_Bell_Beaker
19.2 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA

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Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?):CGG10648 6_CGG106491__BC_202__Cov_67.50%,0.130897,0.125926, 0.084852,0.070737,0.044316,0.031515,0.013631,0.015 461,-0.002045,-0.020593,-0.006008,-0.007343,0.017245,0.027937,-0.007872,-0.006629,-0.010431,0.006334,0.001634,0.001876,-0.009358,-0.004081,0.001232,-0.016147,0.002515

Target: cass
Distance: 1.7279% / 0.01727875
50.8 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?)
40.8 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
4.4 England_Bell_Beaker
4.0 SWE_IA_oll007

Adding it significantly improves the distance.

Xavier727
03-26-2026, 06:19 PM
Distance to:
0.02828598 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.02846189 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.03331016 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.03475384 England_Bell_Beaker
0.03534314 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
0.03664252 SWE_IA_oll007


Target:
Distance: 2.1956% / 0.02195625
43.0 SWE_IA_oll007
39.2 England_Bell_Beaker
17.8 Scotland_Bell_Beaker

celticdragongod
03-26-2026, 07:21 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 3.9408% / 0.03940769
41.6 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
39.2 England_Bell_Beaker
19.2 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA

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Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?):CGG10648 6_CGG106491__BC_202__Cov_67.50%,0.130897,0.125926, 0.084852,0.070737,0.044316,0.031515,0.013631,0.015 461,-0.002045,-0.020593,-0.006008,-0.007343,0.017245,0.027937,-0.007872,-0.006629,-0.010431,0.006334,0.001634,0.001876,-0.009358,-0.004081,0.001232,-0.016147,0.002515

Target: cass
Distance: 1.7279% / 0.01727875
50.8 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?)
40.8 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
4.4 England_Bell_Beaker
4.0 SWE_IA_oll007

Adding it significantly improves the distance.

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02487287 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.02725267 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.03169483 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
0.03201564 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.03757913 SWE_IA_oll007
0.04314603 England_Bell_Beaker
0.08177273 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?):CGG10648 6_CGG106491__BC_202__Cov_67.50%

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.1040% / 0.02104010
64.2 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
13.8 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
13.0 SWE_IA_oll007
8.2 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.8 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?):CGG10648 6_CGG106491__BC_202__Cov_67.50%

Dorquest
03-26-2026, 09:01 PM
Distance to: Dorquest_scaled
0.03006129 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.03439093 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.04035966 England_Bell_Beaker
0.04067040 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.04850678 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
0.05711749 SWE_IA_oll007
0.08609445 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?):CGG10648 6_CGG106491__BC_202__Cov_67.50%


Target: Dorquest_scaled
Distance: 2.9703% / 0.02970280
94.6 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
5.4 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?):CGG10648 6_CGG106491__BC_202__Cov_67.50%



Target: Dorquest_scaled
Distance: 3.0006% / 0.03000585
93.8 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
6.2 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA

codex
03-26-2026, 09:02 PM
Target: codex_scaled
Distance: 2.7205% / 0.02720549
41.0 SWE_IA_oll007
34.6 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
24.4 England_Bell_Beaker

Distance to: codex_scaled
0.03213102 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.03583358 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.03733686 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.03928313 SWE_IA_oll007
0.03964236 England_Bell_Beaker
0.04022348 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA

Grace O'Malley
03-27-2026, 10:00 AM
Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.9146% / 0.01914635
50.6 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
36.8 SWE_IA_oll007
12.6 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA

Fabricius
03-28-2026, 07:43 PM
Target: Fabricius_K13-G25
Distance: 6.8406% / 0.06840618
100.0 England_Bell_Beaker

Distance to: Fabricius_K13-G25
0.06840618 England_Bell_Beaker
0.07364161 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.07956471 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.09878821 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.10607573 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
0.11424434 SWE_IA_oll007
0.12418910 Sardinian(modern)
0.70524881 Yoruba

Target: Fabricius_K13-G25
Distance: 1.9747% / 0.01974733
45.4 England_Bell_Beaker
27.6 Sardinian(modern)
16.2 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
7.4 Yoruba
3.4 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker

Yep, no Nordic Iron Age.

Gannicus
03-29-2026, 08:12 PM
Distance to: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
0.02617361 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.03084505 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.03871373 England_Bell_Beaker
0.03920259 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.04744240 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
0.05074732 SWE_IA_oll007

Target: Gannicus_MergedFile_officialDavidski_scaled
Distance: 0.0262% / 0.02616648
98.6 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
1.4 SWE_IA_oll007

Fabricius
03-29-2026, 08:33 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 3.9408% / 0.03940769
41.6 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
39.2 England_Bell_Beaker
19.2 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA

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Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?):CGG10648 6_CGG106491__BC_202__Cov_67.50%,0.130897,0.125926, 0.084852,0.070737,0.044316,0.031515,0.013631,0.015 461,-0.002045,-0.020593,-0.006008,-0.007343,0.017245,0.027937,-0.007872,-0.006629,-0.010431,0.006334,0.001634,0.001876,-0.009358,-0.004081,0.001232,-0.016147,0.002515

Target: cass
Distance: 1.7279% / 0.01727875
50.8 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?)
40.8 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
4.4 England_Bell_Beaker
4.0 SWE_IA_oll007

Adding it significantly improves the distance.

Just now I see this.
Good add! that gave me some "Nordic" or was it Slavic?
For sure this guy had some Slavic, probably a Slavo-Germanic.

Target: Fabricius_MyHeritage-to-g25(simulated)
Distance: 2.2462% / 0.02246209
32.6 England_Bell_Beaker
32.4 Sardinian
9.4 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
9.2 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?)
8.6 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
7.8 Yoruba

Distance to: Fabricius_K13-G25
0.06840618 England_Bell_Beaker
0.07364161 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.07956471 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.09878821 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.10607573 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
0.11424434 SWE_IA_oll007
0.12418910 Sardinian
0.12518963 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?):CGG10648 6_CGG106491__BC_202__Cov_67.50%
0.70524881 Yoruba

Birchy
03-30-2026, 10:27 AM
Distance to: Birchy
0.02763683 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.02913844 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.03445077 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.03934607 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
0.04145996 SWE_IA_oll007
0.04333518 England_Bell_Beaker
Target: Birchy
Distance: 2.4290% / 0.02428964
55.0 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
45.0 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA

Kostek
03-30-2026, 04:00 PM
Target: Kostek_scaled
Distance: 2.6631% / 0.02663058
77.8 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?)
22.2 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker

bc76
03-30-2026, 10:31 PM
Target: bc76
Distance: 2.1100% / 0.02110046
59.4 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
40.6 Scotland_Bell_Beaker


Distance to: bc76
0.02420538 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.02736118 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.03192486 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
0.03414854 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.03740513 SWE_IA_oll007
0.04232265 England_Bell_Beaker

With Cass's sample

Target: bc76
Distance: 2.0988% / 0.02098842
54.6 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
42.4 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
3.0 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?)

Distance to: bc76
0.02420538 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.02736118 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.03192486 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
0.03414854 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.03740513 SWE_IA_oll007
0.04232265 England_Bell_Beaker
0.07793853 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?)

Rędwald
03-31-2026, 02:19 AM
Target: Rędwald
Distance: 2.3498% / 0.02349777
74.6 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
25.4 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA


Distance to: Rędwald
0.02464500 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.02948305 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.03208503 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.03460292 England_Bell_Beaker
0.04133735 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
0.04810298 SWE_IA_oll007


With Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?)

Target: Rędwald
Distance: 2.2586% / 0.02258575
80.4 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
10.4 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
9.2 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?)


istance to: Rędwald
0.02464500 Scotland_Bell_Beaker
0.02948305 Netherlands_Bell_Beaker
0.03208503 VK2020_DNK_Jutland_IA
0.03460292 England_Bell_Beaker
0.04133735 VK2020_SWE_Oland_IA
0.04810298 SWE_IA_oll007
0.07923411 Denmark_Jutland_PreRoman_IA(ProtoSlavic?):CGG10648 6_CGG106491__BC_202__Cov_67.50%