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SilverKnight
06-24-2012, 06:11 AM
Europe 48.3%
Oceania 1.5%
America 5.8%
Africa 41.2%
E. Asia 2.4%

Europe 45.1%
S. Asia 4.7%
Oceania 1.3%
America 5.6%
Africa 41.1%
E. Asia 1.4%

Europe 38.6%
Mideast 9.4%
S. Asia 3.5%
Oceania 1.3%
America 5.8%
Africa 39.3%
E. Asia 1.4%

Your mix is very complicated. I'm not going to try to interpret all the
different tests I do separately. However, they all agree to very good extent.

First, the Native American is real and is in the 5% range, and fits
Maya best of all my comparison populations, though South America is
also close; Na-Dene and Eskimo is very badly fit.

I think the European is in the 27-40% range. There is clearly north
African there too, in the 15-30% range. The direct African, likely
Mandenka, is 34-39%. Finally, my program fits best with 3-5% from India.
I suspect that this latter is bogus, and is just because all the
sum of the rest are just not "eastern" enough.

I'd love to hear what you think you are!

The "spot on the map" (which excludes the American part) is in
far southern Tunisia. Real Tunisians test far higher (like 70-100%)
North African.

Doug McDonald

http://s19.postimage.org/gv9tb0tc3/genome.png (http://postimage.org/)



Some questions and feedbacks




I didn't understand quiet well the part of mideast and North African, are those completly apart from
> the 40% SSA I have or part? I suspect i have some Jewish ancestry and Morrocon as well.
> And whats name of your projects site where I can see my results more into details?
>
> Thanks, ***** S.

It is hard to tell African that comes in directly and that which comes in through
the Mideast. The only way to do so is if the Mideast (In which in my test is included
Jewish and North African) is quite clearly there. In that case, then we know that
some of the "African" in the top two panels comes in through the Mideast. Its is much larger
from Moroccan and Berber than through Egyptian and that is more than Jewish ... but
even pure Jews show a couple of percent.





After adding dividing percentages to average it out:

5.6 % Native (Arawak-Taino), 9.4 % (Mid-East/ North African Jewish), 37-40% W. African, 45-48% West Europe.

PeacefulCaribbeanDutch
06-24-2012, 06:21 AM
or maybe your ancestors had mayan ancestry even before reaching the new world :O

j/k :) interesting

the fact that you have north african and mayan ancestry means you might also have spanish ancestry, your ancestors might have been Whites living in what was then Mexican territory and now American like in Texas.

also 40% african and ur hanging out in these forums? :P

SilverKnight
06-24-2012, 06:27 AM
or maybe your ancestors had mayan ancestry even before reaching the new world :O

j/k :) interesting

the fact that you have north african and mayan ancestry means you might also have spanish ancestry, your ancestors might have been Whites living in what was then Mexican territory and now American like in Texas.

also 40% african and ur hanging out in these forums? :P

Is not probably it's a fact Snug that I have Spanish, actually my maternal grandfather was 3rd generation Spanish/basque. The African is very tricky it ranges from 35%-45% and some of it might be North African, hard to conclude.

Mortimer
06-24-2012, 06:37 AM
congrats, sigur.

The Exiled King
06-24-2012, 01:47 PM
Do you also have your Dodecad V3 results?

Padre Organtino
06-24-2012, 02:39 PM
IThe African is very tricky it ranges from 35%-45% and some of it might be North African, hard to conclude.

No, this part is West African.

SilverKnight
06-24-2012, 04:03 PM
Do you also have your Dodecad V3 results?

Yes, haven't seen it in a while, but here is goes found it. DOD204

http://s19.postimage.org/h21r2pnk3/ADMIXTURE_DOD237_244_10.png (http://postimage.org/image/3l4sjud8f/full/)




DOD 237-244 and other populations.

http://s19.postimage.org/ji3kgk5mr/ADMIXTURE_10.png (http://postimage.org/image/otih19rpb/full/)

Supreme American
06-24-2012, 04:20 PM
http://i47.tinypic.com/24erup3.jpg

SilverKnight
06-24-2012, 04:27 PM
Estimates (from bottom to top) -

West & South West Asian (10% Jewish? .10), Southern Europe (20% .20), North West Africa (5% .05 Morocco? ), Northern Europe (20% .20) .20...All combined = 55% 0.55 (23andme says 55% Euro by inaccuracy) ,

West & East African 40% (.05, .35) East and North East Asian (Amerind for sure) 5% (.05)

Total: 100%

StonyArabia
06-25-2012, 06:29 AM
The Jewish is real. It was well known that Sephardim Jews who were called Marranos settled in the colonies of the Americas, thus this is not strange at all. If you are finding Ashkenazim cousins this only reinforce the Jewish ancestry or the Marrano. After the reconquesta and the inquisation 1492, the Sephardim settled in the colonies often mixed with the locals, in North Africa where they were allowed to remain a seperate entity and be themsleves and in Turkey. So you have a little Kike in ya.

SilverKnight
06-25-2012, 06:44 AM
The Jewish is real. It was well known that Sephardim Jews who were called Marranos settled in the colonies of the Americas, thus this is not strange at all. If you are finding Ashkenazim cousins this only reinforce the Jewish ancestry or the Marrano. After the reconquesta and the inquisation 1492, the Sephardim settled in the colonies often mixed with the locals, in North Africa where they were allowed to remain a seperate entity and be themsleves and in Turkey. So you have a little Kike in ya.

Isn't 'kike' a derogatory to jews? xD

Yes indeed, many cousins with North and South European origins as well some even from East Europe (like Ukraine) with commonly known haplogroups found in Jews. Sephardic seems very reasonable what about the connection with Ashkenazi Jews I have also found, might they be directly or indirectly related to me?

Mortimer
06-25-2012, 06:58 AM
"id like to hear what you think you are"

what did you replied sigur ros?

SilverKnight
06-27-2012, 04:08 PM
Eurogenes K12b Admixture Proportions

http://s19.postimage.org/89pvzol8j/M005102_C018_E9.gif (http://postimage.org/)


Population
Western European 16.65%
Siberian 3.62%
East African 5.68%
West Central Asian -
South Asian 0.51%
West African 36.82%
Caucasus 4.36%
Finnish 1.42%
Mediterranean 14.00%
Southwest Asian 4.97%
North European 8.75%
East Asian 3.24%


Eurogenes Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer Admixture Proportions

http://s19.postimage.org/em519ioar/M005102_98_B149.gif (http://postimage.org/)


Population
Anatolian Farmer 4.31%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 16.49%
Middle Eastern Herder 5.97%
East Asian Farmer 0.88%
South American Hunter Gatherer 6.78%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.29%
East African Pastoralist 5.49%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.63%
Mediterranean Farmer 21.94%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 3.09%
Bantu Farmer 34.13%

Arne
06-27-2012, 04:11 PM
you could cluster into the arab category ...

Sikeliot
06-27-2012, 04:12 PM
you could cluster into the arab category ...

He has too much West African to cluster with an Arab. But his results look similar to what I've seen amongst Cape Verdeans, minus his Amerindian ancestry.

Nice results, congratulations :)

SilverKnight
06-27-2012, 04:13 PM
He has too much West African to cluster with an Arab. But his results look similar to what I've seen amongst Cape Verdeans, minus his Amerindian ancestry.

Nice results, congratulations :)

In the hunter gatherer I don't have Baltic ancestry that I know of why does it show Baltic ? and thanks.

Sikeliot
06-27-2012, 04:14 PM
In the hunter gatherer I don't have Baltic ancestry that I know of why does it show Baltic ? and thanks.

Baltic is one of the oldest genetic components in Europeans, I am sure all Europeans would show some on that. It goes with the Atlantic, I think. Hence why they are sometimes grouped together "Atlantic-Baltic".

SilverKnight
06-27-2012, 04:18 PM
Baltic is one of the oldest genetic components in Europeans, I am sure all Europeans would show some on that. It goes with the Atlantic, I think. Hence why they are sometimes grouped together "Atlantic-Baltic".

Are there other tools or are this like the best?


Dodecad K12b Admixture Proportions


http://s19.postimage.org/ffhn24ubn/M005102_F32_FC0.gif (http://postimage.org/)

Population
Gedrosia 2.39%
Siberian 1.01%
Northwest_African 4.09%
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 19.31%
North_European 14.48%
South_Asian 0.39%
East_African 5.24%
Southwest_Asian 3.26%
East_Asian 5.13%
Caucasus 7.63%
Sub_Saharan 37.07%

Arne
06-27-2012, 04:18 PM
He has too much West African to cluster with an Arab. But his results look similar to what I've seen amongst Cape Verdeans, minus his Amerindian ancestry.

Nice results, congratulations :)

Arabs are very diverse ranging from lighter types to even more asian tyes.
Not everything is shown up by Statistics.

Ibericus
06-27-2012, 04:22 PM
Arabs are very diverse ranging from lighter types to even more asian tyes.
Not everything is shown up by Statistics.
what are u talking about, arabs peak in Southwest-Asian, and his is very low

Arne
06-27-2012, 04:23 PM
what are u talking about, arabs peak in Southwest-Asian, and his is very low

Not everything is shown up by Statistics.

Black Sun Dimension
06-27-2012, 04:37 PM
So you are a mulatto after all. What was all that bullshit about you being overwhelming european?

The Exiled King
06-28-2012, 01:56 AM
Nice results! Can you also post your Gedmatch Dodecad V3 results? I find that to be the best for all world regions/populations.

SilverKnight
06-28-2012, 04:06 AM
So you are a mulatto after all. What was all that bullshit about you being overwhelming european?

Huh?

I never denied I wasn't. I'm ti-racial mulatto with predominantly Euro genes followed by African which is pretty close to it, and then West Asian and small Amerind (5%)..



Nice results! Can you also post your Gedmatch Dodecad V3 results? I find that to be the best for all world regions/populations.

Ok thanks, here they are I'm beginning to learn more about it now.

Dodecad V3 Admixture Proportions

Population
East_European 3.99%
West_European 18.00%
Mediterranean 17.26%
Neo_African 23.42%
West_Asian 4.90%
South_Asian 0.57%
Northeast_Asian 3.95%
Southeast_Asian 1.98%
East_African 5.97%
Southwest_Asian 2.04%
Northwest_African 3.62%
Palaeo_African 14.32%

http://s19.postimage.org/7w2c5b5ab/dodecadv3.gif (http://postimage.org/)



World ancestry painting Dedecad

http://s19.postimage.org/hhvwllwg3/M005102_AEBEC0.png (http://postimage.org/)

Sikeliot
06-28-2012, 04:15 AM
To me your Amerindian ancestry is too small to warrant calling you triracial, lest we call myself "biracial".

SilverKnight
06-28-2012, 06:57 AM
To me your Amerindian ancestry is too small to warrant calling you triracial, lest we call myself "biracial".

As anyhow you want :D some even called me quad-racial as they will consider my West-Asian as another distinct Caucasoid race to European. But the amount is almost as small, but greater then amerind.

But if you consider Caucasoid West Asian and Europid Caucaoid then we can say Bi-racial/ tri-racial.

Stefan
06-28-2012, 07:01 AM
But if you consider Caucasoid West Asian and Europid Caucaoid then we can say Bi-racial/ tri-racial.

Almost all of Europe would be "bi-racial" in that case, with the exceptions of Basque-land and the Baltics.