What did I learned from my genetic Test?

[Mortimer]

I thought im part serb part roma and 1/16 russian from my great great grandfather.

So what new did I learned or think to have learned?

Im part Roma (I score 16.8% Southasian)
Im part Russian (I have Russia on my Dashboard List of Countries of Ancestry).

But what new did I learned? I think i learned im not part serb but part Greek? I dont score evaluated Eastern and Northern Euro and I dont have matches from Serbia?

Can this be translated correctly from my Results?

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[Partizan]

:picard1: I guess it is the second disaster for Greeks in 21.th century, after 2009 crisis.

[Mortimer]

:picard1: I guess it is the second disaster for Greeks in 21.th century, after 2009 crisis.

I dont know. I just ask a Question




Can this be translated correctly from my Results?



Also am I such a bad Person? Would it be disaster for Turks?

[Sikeliot]

"Countries of ancestry" comes from relative finder.. it doesn't actually reflect your ancestry necessarily.

[Mortimer]

"Countries of ancestry" comes from relative finder.. it doesn't actually reflect your ancestry necessarily.

but isnt it surprising i dont have serbia in my list at all?
also i dont have evaluated eastern and northern european like yugoslavs on ancestry composition?

[Žołnir]

:picard1: I guess it is the second disaster for Greeks in 21.th century, after 2009 crisis.


LÜLzzz's This made me a real laugh! :D Thanks mate! :laugh: Btw interesting turnout Inquiring Mind! From Serbia to Greece! :icon_cheesygrin:

[Sikeliot]

I get Greece, Lithuania, Russia etc on mine and I have no recent ancestry from any of them.

[Mortimer]

I get Greece, Lithuania, Russia etc on mine and I have no recent ancestry from any of them.

What is your top match on ancestry finder? dont you have italy/Portugal at all? i think it is surprising i dont have serbia at all. also i dont have evaluated eastern and northern european components on ancestry composition. what do you think of my ancestry composition?

[Su]

I am also a member of 23andme and I am a noob, I have got no clue whatsoever about many tools.

[Sikeliot]

What is your top match on ancestry finder? dont you have italy/Portugal at all? i think it is surprising i dont have serbia at all. also i dont have evaluated eastern and northern european components on ancestry composition. what do you think of my ancestry composition?

Italy
Lithuania
Poland
Portugal
Greece
Russia

[Mortimer]

Italy
Lithuania
Poland
Portugal
Greece
Russia

ok. so you do have italy as top match and Portugal you have too. but you didnt answered my questions fully. whatever. thank you!

[Absinthe]

You shouldn't take these things so seriously. The results are vague. Your national identity is also shaped via culture and customs of the country you grew up in.
You can't put yourself in a country whose language you speak not a word of, whose traditions you are unfamiliar with, and which you've never set foot in, just because a DNA test "suggests" you might have ancestry from there. It's like me taking the test and finding a remote Russian ancestry (via a distant relative in the past) and all of the sudden claiming I am Russian.

Even if you have a Greek ancestor some generations ago that doesn't make you Greek. :) I am not saying this out of spite. I have an English grandfather myself and I never claim to be English because I have not been brought up with this culture nor do I have ties to their land. And having a grandfather is much more tangible than a vague clue from a DNA test. :wink

[Mortimer]

You shouldn't take these things so seriously. The results are vague. Your national identity is also shaped via culture and customs of the country you grew up in.
You can't put yourself in a country whose language you speak not a word of, whose traditions you are unfamiliar with, and which you've never set foot in, just because a DNA test "suggests" you might have ancestry from there. It's like me taking the test and finding a remote Russian ancestry (via a distant relative in the past) and all of the sudden claiming I am Russian.

Even if you have a Greek ancestor some generations ago that doesn't make you Greek. :) I am not saying this out of spite. I have an English grandfather myself and I never claim to be English because I have not been brought up with this culture nor do I have ties to their land. And having a grandfather is much more tangible than a vague clue from a DNA test. :wink

I get your Point. I dont Claim to be Greek. But I think im Romanian/Greek and Slavicised. Those two are my top matches. Looks as if they make a good part of my ancestry. I just lack the evaluated eastern and northern european to be southslav. Im slavicised but not part southslav. Im southerneuropean to a good degree genetically (it seems)

edit: also my ydna is E1b1ba2 which is mediterannean and not southslavic (southslavic is I1)

[Hochmeister]

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Where have you taken this test?

[Mortimer]

Where have you taken this test?

23andme

[Hochmeister]

a remote Russian ancestry (via a distant relative in the past) and all of the sudden claiming I am Russian.


You look like a typical Russian and your naughty temper is very Russian too :D


23andme

Interesting. How much?

[Mortimer]

You look like a typical Russian and your nasty temper is very Russian too :D



Interesting. How much?

I did it 3 years ago and it took me 500 Dollars but now you can get it for 99 Dollars for a period of time but usually it is 299

[Absinthe]

You look like a typical Russian and your naughty temper is very Russian too :D

Moi? A typical Russian? :eusa_eh: :confused3: :icon_eek: :p

[Hochmeister]

Moi? A typical Russian? :eusa_eh: :confused3: :icon_eek: :p

Yes, you would pass in Russia. Btw, there in my neighborhood are some girls who look and behave like you (similar temper) . :rolleyes:

[Absinthe]

Yes, you would pass in Russia. Btw, there in my neighborhood are some girls who look and behave like you (similar temper) . :rolleyes:

I've been guessed as Russian before. Oddly enough my grandfather's family lived in Odessa (part of the Greek merchant community) so it's not an entirely remote possibility even though no known marriage with a local was known.

So what is this "temper" you're talking about? :D

And then I quit asking, let's not hijack IM threads :D

[Hochmeister]

So what is this "temper" you're talking about? :D


You are a безбашенная чертовка. I don't know how to say it in English :D

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Maybe I'm wrong about you, but it is a part of the Russian mentality (having fun etc.).

[Hochmeister]

it is a part of the Russian mentality (having fun etc.).

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[Mortimer]

anyone who is knowledgable with this Kind of tests can help me out?

[Mortimer]

I wrote a few Greek "Cousins". I asked them if they are pure ethnical Greeks

[Twistedmind]

You are a безбашенная чертовка. I don't know how to say it in English :D

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Silly she-devil.

[Hochmeister]

безбашенная чертовка
Silly she-devil.

Nope, "silly" doesn't fit. :rolleyes:
It must be a word which combines "naughty", "mad" (in a positive meaning) and "hilarious" all at the same time.

[Absinthe]

Nope, "silly" doesn't fit. :rolleyes:
It must be a word which combines "naughty", "mad" (in a positive meaning) and "hilarious" all at the same time.
I like that :D :thumbs

[Mortimer]

received one Response so far, that he is full ethnic greek, all his grandparents were greek

[Mortimer]

I checked out his Results he is 100% European and all Balkan except for 0.1% Eastern European.

Also his top match is Greece. So he seems to be pure Greek as Snow

[Mortimer]

I investigate this now further with greek cousin he thinks it could be possible

[Sisak]

Jel tvoje ime SP (samo inacijale pišem)?

[Sisak]

E1b1b haplogroup is north african, balkan and middle eastern haplogroup. This is not Semitic or Arabic haplogroup - E1b1b people are special race of people, the same as Slavs, Nordid, or Celtic. This haplogropu is related with Berbers in north Africa but also they are natives in the Balkans because they live here 6000 years i think -this is neolitic haplogroup.

[Mortimer]

Jel tvoje ime SP (samo inacijale pišem)?

Jjeste. Sto pitas?

[Sisak]

Jjeste. Sto pitas?

Bezveze pitam, da vidim jel to tvoje ime ili genetičara koji je napravio testiranje.

[Mortimer]

Bezveze pitam, da vidim jel to tvoje ime ili genetičara koji je napravio testiranje.

To je moje ime zato sto su moji resultati;)

[Sisak]

The reason whay geneticians didn't find relation with Serbia is because geneticians do genetic testing only in Belgrade not in the southern part of Serbia.

Loša mi je engleska gramatika. Ja sam čitala da su u Srbiji radili genetsko istraživanje samo na ljudima iz Beograda, a nisu radili na ljudima iz južne Srbije,a po meni u južnoj Srbiji žive puno tamnoputiji ljudi nego u Beogradu. Tako su genetičari otkrili kod Srba anatolijske gene -ti ljudi su prije testiranja rekli da potječu iz "starih srpskih porodica", od srpskih popova, a kod genetskih rezultata im se otkrilo da imaju anatolijske gene.

[Hochmeister]

jjeste. Sto pitas?

И вправду. Ну все, теперь мы знаем, как тебя зовут. :)

[Hochmeister]

tako su genetičari otkrili kod srba anatolijske gene

Да это и сразу было понятно. На Балканах живут автохтонные народы, в том числе легшие в основу эллинского этноса. Это еще сразу в чате im сказали.

[Sisak]

Да это и сразу было понятно. На Балканах живут автохтонные народы, в том числе легшие в основу эллинского этноса. Это еще сразу в чате im сказали.
И вправду. Ну все, теперь мы знаем, как тебя зовут.

translation in english please

[Sisak]

E1b1ba2-na koji je način ovo vezano za Rusiju? Nisam nikada čula da oni imaju tu haplogrupu.

[Hochmeister]

translation in english please

I've understood your Serbian and you can't understand my Russian? I'm disappointed :(

[Sisak]

I've understood your Serbian and you can't understand my Russian? I'm disappointed :(

I don't know Serbain cyrilic

[Sigurd]

IM, without offense, you do look a bit like a gypsy anyway, so that educated guess could be correct as for some influence somewhere in the woodpile/haystack.

As for the other countries being listed, there was much movement between Slavic countries in times when the languages were still mutually intelligible, clustering with Bulgaria and Russia at the same time does not mean you're not a Serb. ;)

[Mortimer]

IM, without offense, you do look a bit like a gypsy anyway, so that educated guess could be correct as for some influence somewhere in the woodpile/haystack.

As for the other countries being listed, there was much movement between Slavic countries in times when the languages were still mutually intelligible, clustering with Bulgaria and Russia at the same time does not mean you're not a Serb.

Im 1/16 russian.

[Hochmeister]

I don't know Serbain cyrilic

Interesting will you understand the same, but in the Russian Latin alphabet (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Русская_латиница)?




jjeste. Sto pitas?
I vpravdu. Nu vsö, teperj my znaem, kak tebä zovut.


tako su genetičari otkrili kod srba anatolijske gene
Da eto I srazu bylo ponätno. Na Balkanah ƶivut avtohtonnye narody, v tom cisle lögšie v osnovu ellinskogo etnosa. Eto jescö srazu v cate IM skazali.

[Sisak]

I am Croatian from Croatia, i learned in school only latin alphabet. But i understand serbian word in Cyrillic. But i don't know how to write word in Cyrillic.

[Alessio]

How are you part Roma...? Aren't both your parents Rroma ?? It's more cultural because most Gitanos are in fact mixed...You are Rroma or your ain't


I thought im part serb part roma and 1/16 russian from my great great grandfather.

So what new did I learned or think to have learned?

Im part Roma (I score 16.8% Southasian)
Im part Russian (I have Russia on my Dashboard List of Countries of Ancestry).

But what new did I learned? I think i learned im not part serb but part Greek? I dont score evaluated Eastern and Northern Euro and I dont have matches from Serbia?

Can this be translated correctly from my Results?

http://s1.postimage.org/6sypde6m7/IMG_1338.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s1.postimage.org/d97o3hf5r/IMG_1440.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s1.postimage.org/ilwihm327/IMG_1456.jpg (http://postimage.org/)


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[Mortimer]

How are you part Roma...? Aren't both your parents Rroma ?? It's more cultural because most Gitanos are in fact mixed...You are Rroma or your ain't

i have roma ancestry on both sides of the family but also slavic ancestry. my mum is 1/8 russian and my dad is three quarter serb. his dad was half serb, his grandafther was serb and his mum was serb. being genetically mixed is not the same as being ethnically mixed, most roma derrive their genetical ancestry from europe,mideast and southasia from long ago, but i have recent non-roma ancestry which makes not only genetically mixed but also ethnically mixed (mixes of identities) and my parents are not both cultural romas.

[YeshAtid]

Why doesn't Serbia appear on your countries of ancestry?

[Mortimer]

Why doesn't Serbia appear on your countries of ancestry?

now it appears, before it didnt. but now it does.

romania
greece
russia
serbia
bosnia

are now. and russia and serbia are correct for me

[Alessio]

I thought both your parents were Rroma, now I understand.

[Artek]

I learned that I paternally belong to the continuity of the Corded Ware population, that felt into a genepool of a slavic populations that obviously got formed later.

Maternally, I descend from a Paleolithic or Mesolithic hunters-gatherers. That's pretty amazing. I have expected to be a plain "H" or something :)

I don't know a thing about my autosomal genetics. However, I think I would fall among the Germans basing on my ancestry (German-influenced West Slavic + Germanic should genetically give a German ,logically).