The Holocaust is...

[dado]

soo much FAIL
:picard2::picard1::picard2::picard1:

uuuu i'm so nice and liberal...and and...seriously girl,wanna discuss with me,get the brain job done first

[Leliana]

The problem is not the 'Holocaust'. There were mass killings of Jews and some other minorities by my people in the 3rd Reich but the numbers are a bit hyped and artifically extrapolated. :icon_eek: No, the problem is that the 'Holocaust' is used to press money from my countries down to the present day and to demolish our healthy self-esteem as a nation and as German/Austrian people. We are persuaded into accepting all kinds of immigrants and cultural aliens by references to the Nazi era. 'How can you be against Muslim immigrants or multiculturalism when the generation of your grandparents killed million of people?' :rolleyes: Mehhhh! That barefaced k.o. argument has become smelly! :stop00010:

Germany is despite all social problems the strongest country of Europe but we could do soooo much better without mass immigration, leftist-relativist ethics and the guilt cult! :( Murdering Jews was awfully wrong but our enemies are now slowly murdering our people by installing vile ideologies who are malicious to the nation. But there's a glimmer of hope: More and more people are waking up and don't believe the lies!

[Illancha]

Hmmm...

[Aunt Hilda]

uuuu i'm so nice and liberal...and and...seriously girl,wanna discuss with me,get the brain job done first

said the person who doesn't realise that his previous comment was based on circular logic

It's historical accuracy is really not up to debate.
you can discuss it in terms of exploitation and politicization for some sort of gain but that's pretty much it

[Philo]

The problem is not the 'Holocaust'. There were mass killings of Jews and some other minorities by my people in the 3rd Reich but the numbers are a bit hyped and artifically extrapolated. :icon_eek: No, the problem is that the 'Holocaust' is used to press money from my countries down to the present day and to demolish our healthy self-esteem as a nation and as German/Austrian people. We are persuaded into accepting all kinds of immigrants and cultural aliens by references to the Nazi era. 'How can you be against Muslim immigrants or multiculturalism when the generation of your grandparents killed million of people?' :rolleyes: Mehhhh! That barefaced k.o. argument has become smelly! :stop00010:

Germany is despite all social problems the strongest country of Europe but we could do soooo much better without mass immigration, leftist-relativist ethics and the guilt cult! :( Murdering Jews was awfully wrong but our enemies are now slowly murdering our people by installing vile ideologies who are malicious to the nation. But there's a glimmer of hope: More and more people are waking up and don't believe the lies!

I wonder what do you think about the president Ahmedinajed of Iran, who said(qoute from wikipedia):

In an interview on Iran's Arabic channel 'Al-Alam', Ahmadinejad said that if Germany and Austria feel responsible for the massacre of Jews during World War II, they should host a state of Israel on their own soil. Speaking at a news conference on the summit sidelines, Ahmadinejad said most Jews in Israel "have no roots in Palestine, but they are holding the destiny of Palestine in their hands and allow themselves to kill the Palestinian people." [5]

“Some European countries insist on saying that during World War II, Hitler burned millions of Jews and put them in concentration camps. Any historian, commentator or scientist who doubts that is taken to prison or gets condemned. Although we don't accept this claim [of the holocaust], if we suppose it is true... If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in Europe – like in Germany, Austria or other countries – to the Zionists and the Zionists can establish their state in Europe. You offer part of Europe and we will support it."[5]

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What do you think about that statement? I think we will agree on one thing:D.

[dado]

said the person who doesn't realise that his previous comment was based on circular logic

It's historical accuracy is really not up to debate.
you can discuss it in terms of exploitation and politicization for some sort of gain but that's pretty much it

what ya talking girl...i never said it didnt happened

i said it happened,and it happend for a reason

they deserved it

[Aunt Hilda]

what ya talking girl...i never said it didnt happened

i said it happened,and it happend for a reason

they deserved it

how was it deserved?

[Philo]

what ya talking girl...i never said it didnt happened

i said it happened,and it happend for a reason

they deserved it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

You deserved it too;).

L_tdj-L84_8

[7eleven]

what ya talking girl...i never said it didnt happened

i said it happened,and it happend for a reason

they deserved it

All the Muslims deserve to be slaughtered, they are the filth of the world.

[dado]

how was it deserved?

do u really want me to post u quotes from mein kampf...or u could just read it for yourself

[Aunt Hilda]

do u really want me to post u quotes from mein kampf...or u could just read it for yourself

oh you're such and idiot :picard1:

I've read Mein Kampf Its a lot of bullshit wrapped it a sheet of nonsense

[dado]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

You deserved it too;).

L_tdj-L84_8

we had a war...u were planned for extermination like rats

[Leliana]

I wonder what do you think about the president Ahmedinajed of Iran, who said(qoute from wikipedia)
It doesn't matter what Ahmedinadjad says or doesn't say because I consider Muslims the biggest threat and menace to Europe, to our European culture and to the Western/Occidental world. He wants to play off Jews against Europeans because as a 'good' Muslim he hates both and wants to see the two of them going down.

[Virtuous]

The Lolocaust.

[Illancha]

Hmmm...

[Hong Key]

Why are we subjected to more anti-Hitler propaganda today than during World War II?

Why are white nations blanketed with Holocaust memorials, even countries where the Holocaust did not take place?

Why do most people know how many Jews died during World War II but have no idea how many non-Jews died?

Some Thoughts on Hitler & Other Essays
http://www.counter-currents.com/some-thoughts-on-hitler/
http://www.counter-currents.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/SomeThoughtsonHitlerCover.jpg

[Aunt Hilda]

Why are we subjected to more anti-Hitler propaganda today than during World War II?

Why are white nations blanketed with Holocaust memorials, even countries where the Holocaust did not take place?

Why do most people know how many Jews died during World War II but have no idea how many non-Jews died?

Some Thoughts on Hitler & Other Essays
http://www.counter-currents.com/some-thoughts-on-hitler/
http://www.counter-currents.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/SomeThoughtsonHitlerCover.jpg

open a new thread for that

[Philo]

It doesn't matter what Ahmedinadjad says or doesn't say because I consider Muslims the biggest threat and menace to Europe, to our European culture and to the Western/Occidental world. He wants to play off Jews against Europeans because as a 'good' Muslim he hates both and wants to see the two of them going down.

So you basically agreed with me:cool:


we had a war...u were planned for extermination like rats

We had many wars against moslems since than.. won them all:thumb001:

[Žołnir]

I don't like in media there is always just about Jew victims not others.

[7eleven]

we had a war...u were planned for extermination like rats

Allahu Fuckbar!!!!

[Aunt Hilda]

unsubscribe button I'm gonna rape you

[Anglojew]

lol not all of the Jewry of this planet are citizens of Israel. :picard2:

from what i gather Angojew is English

English-born Australian.

[Anglojew]

in war?? Germans killed million russian civilians and 3 million pows were killed in concentration camps like jews. In general germans had no war prisoners in the east front they executed them and russians used everyone for war children and women, the same was for germany when the red army came back at them.
Saint petersburg suffered a lot during occupation it had a famine because of that.

And russians executed many german civilians too especially men. Germans suffered their own style of holocaust with the bombings of their cities and eisenhowser death camps.

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The difference is the Germans murdered soldiers or political dissidents of other nationalities (and their own) with Jews they murdered everyone regardless of age, gender, politics etc.

[King Claus]

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[Maleficent]

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I understand your frustration, but as a Liberal, you should know not to use the word rape in such a facetious manner.

[Anglojew]

LOL, dude, what the hell?!

Of course, I know that Palestinian Christians are descended from Jewish converts to Christianity, 2,000 years ago. The original Christians, of course. Why wouldn't I know that?!

There's nothing twisted. When did I say, imply, or insinuate that I hate Jews?! I do have something against Zionists, which is understandable. Unless you believe Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism are the same exact thing. I do not hate Jews. Sorry I ever came in this thread in the first place to defend Jews. The Holocaust was a terrible tragedy in history, which should not be taken lightly.

I was talking about Black Sun Dimension, isn't she the Palestinian Christian? I'm not sure why you think I was talking about you?

[dado]

We had many wars against moslems since than.. won them all:thumb001:

u won shit...u cant even imagine what is waiting for u...you'll end up with out trace

[Maleficent]

I was talking about Black Sun Dimension, isn't she the Palestinian Christian? I'm not sure why you think I was talking about you?

Black Sun Dimension is Venezuelan. I am the half-PalestinianChristian.

[Philo]

u won shit...u cant even imagine what is waiting for u...you'll end up with out trace

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[Anglojew]

He defines himself as a zionist and therefore defends the actions of the Israeli government. Uber-Zionist in fact according to his information.

I support Jewish self determination in our historical and religious homeland. This doesn't mean I support every single thing Israel does that's rediculous. I'm not the Dictator of Israel.

It's like me saying because you're a Chechan you supported the Beslan Massacre (which I hope you think is as vile as I do).

Israel has been incredibly patient and peaceful, they could have nuked Mecca and Cairo and said "fuck you Arabs" if they wanted but have always extended a peace offering signing treaties with Egypt and Jordan. The Syrian goverment has murdered more Arabs in the last year than have died in all the Israeli-Arab wars combined.

[Philo]

I support Jewish self determination in our historical and religious homeland. This doesn't mean I support every single thing Israel does that's rediculous. I'm not the Dictator of Israel.


These are high words for him. He thinks jews don't hav a right to self-determination, and that The Levant should be a muslim-only area, as well as probably all of the globe.



Israel has been incredibly patient and peaceful, they could have nuked Mecca and Cairo and said "fuck you Arabs" if they wanted but have always extended a peace offering signing treaties with Egypt and Jordan. [B]The Syrian goverment has murdered more Arabs in the last year than have died in all the Israeli-Arab wars combined.

Good words here. especially the beat about syria. That country is really in a sad place right now. Nobody remembers the prosperity that was there during roman and greek times. In other words, before islam came.

[Anglojew]

Black Sun Dimension is Venezuelan. I am the half-PalestinianChristian.

Oh ok I thought they were talking about her, I must have missed a few comments. Sorry if there was some confusion I didn't even see any of your previous comments.

Do you feel attached to your Jewish roots?

[MarkyMark]

Good words here. especially the beat about syria. That country is really in a sad place right now. Nobody remembers the prosperity that was there during roman and greek times. In other words, before islam came.

Back when there were no Arabs in Syria, the good ole days.

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[Anglojew]

What about atomic bombs?
Apart from the gas Zyklon B, work of Jew Fritz Haber as I said (and the Jews of this thread have been silent and looked for other side), we must not forget that the atomic bomb was working also of Jews (Robert Oppenheimer) and that more than 200.000 Japanese were killed so blithely.
Really amazing is that the Jewnited States of America expose the aircraft as they exhibit at a Museum of Virginia... :picard1::picard1::picard1::picard1:

http://elmiqueblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/hiroshima-nagasaki-hibakusha-fotografia-yamaguchi.jpg

In Japan they are still waiting for the Israel economic compensation :laugh2::laugh::laugh2::laugh::laugh2::laugh::laug h2::laugh::laugh2::laugh:

Israel wasn't even refounded in 1945. It's like me saying the Chinese are to blame for every fatality shot by a cannon or a gun ever because they invented gunpowder. You're obviously an idiot.

[7eleven]

Someones jealous that they arent as white as Ashkenazim...

[Philo]

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Israel wasn't even refounded in 1945. It's like me saying the Chinese are to blame for every fatality shot by a cannon or a gun ever because they invented gunpowder. You're obviously an idiot.

He's just another one of those annoying antisemitic pieces of shit.

[Cristiano viejo]

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[SkyBurn]

WHY THE HOLOCAUST IS A BIG DEAL:


It was recent
It left a lot of people dead
It happened in the western world
It was organised/efficient
It went on with other countries knowing
It is an extreme example of the effects of racism


The last point explains why it's prominent in the media. Because by reminding us what horrible things can happen when prejudice is left untouched, we are taught to keep an open mind. Th Holocaust has become a "fable", focusing on the Jews as the archetypal victim, and the Nazis as the archetypal villain. They are now merely concepts when talking about the Holocaust.

Jews using it to their advantage: I will not deny that Israel was a result of it. But to be honest, I don't think it was an entirely unjustified sentiment after what had happened.

The media attention: Let's be honest, it's an extremely easy way to make a successful movie/book which seems deep.

Making Europe pay for the losses: the Jews did lose EVERYTHING, although I do not believe the current generation should pay for the mistakes of their predecessors.

Finally, It's an important thing to remember, because it allows us to try preventing it from happening again. Look at the life of Elie Wiesel, and what he's been trying to do.

[Graus]

Does it really matter if it happened or not? The world obviously decided to act like it did and thats not going to change anytime soon. Nobody would ever recognise the evidence against it, since it would be one of the biggest embarrassments in history.

We simply need to ignore it and stop acting like it would matter what did or did not happen to some people 70 years ago.

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[Philo]

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[Maleficent]

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NOT COOL. NOT FUCKING FUNNY.:mad:

[Philo]

NOT COOL. NOT FUCKING FUNNY.:mad:

I'm sorry. I don't hate christians at all but that tard christian whatever his name is was getting on my nerves. Right in his sweet spot as well:D.

[Illancha]

Hmmm...

[Philo]

It was indeed a heinious act and I have never defended such actions.

However, Beslan happened every single day in Chechnya and no one gave a damn. No one ever saw it on their TV sets nor heard it on their radios nor even read about it in newspapers.

And this is exactly my point. People are willing to turn a blind eye to atrocities when it is inconvenient for them to step in.

Just read through my very first post in the Understanding Chechens thread (link in my signature) and you'll know what I'm talking about.

During the second intifada there were LARGE bombings in major israeli cities(like tel aviv and jerusalem) and nobody gave a fuck. you're not special in that regard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Intifada


it was extremely uncalled for.

No it was'nt.. or did u not see the ~12 antisemitic garbage caricatures he posted?

[Maleficent]

i'm sorry. I don't hate christians at all but that tard christian whatever his name is was getting on my nerves. Right in his sweet spot as well:d.

it was extremely uncalled for.

[Illancha]

Hmmm...

[Maleficent]

Oh ok I thought they were talking about her, I must have missed a few comments. Sorry if there was some confusion I didn't even see any of your previous comments.

Do you feel attached to your Jewish roots?

Hmmm.....Interesting question.....Not sure how to answer.....Maybe a little bit.....

[Philo]

So who's putting words in whose mouth now?

I never said Jews do not have a right to self-determination nor have I ever said the Levant should be exclusively Muslim.

In fact being a Chechen I can sympathise entirely with Jews and I would support their cause if and only if it was not at the expense of another people who by the way are completely innocent of any crime.

In case you haven't noticed or don't know me well enough yet, I couldn't care less if the entire world was Muslim or if I was the last one left. I am content with my own beliefs and feel no need to impose them on others. I only invite and it is up to you whether you accept or not.
yeah than perhaps you should educate yourself on the fact that jews have been living in israel for the last 3000 years and that "palestinains" was invented some time ago. Really I don't mind them just being called arabs. the "palestinain cause" is just straight out pan-arabism. Than again I do get some of your points about people being displaced from their homes, but the fact there is'nt piece is the arabs's fault. in 2000 and an israeli PM offered them the 1967 borders and they of course declined. Some further propositions have been made since than including massive
Concessions by the israelis and it did'nt work. they would not settle for anything less than jews in the sea. sorry if that offends you.
as for the part about being muslim, what i said was what i normally hear from muslims on anthro-boards.

[Illancha]

Hmmm...

[Philo]

Like seriously, do you think I do not know this? I've lived in the region for half my life. Yes there have been Jews living there for millenia, but they were not the sole inhabitants of the region. There are other groups who can claim equal rights to it, what do you propose happens to them?

3 millenia:p.
where have you lived btw?
what happened to them? they're still there. 1.5 million israeli arabs have equal rights to israeli jews. i would say israel is the best country for an arab in the middle-east to live in. It's a democracy and they don't get butchered. I am not talking about the west bank of course but the arabs living in israel proper have the best lives than all other arabs in the middle-east. Israel is also pretty much one of the only safeplaces for christians in the middle-east. Look at how the copts are being persecuted, the number of lebanese christians have decreased significantly from 50 years ago. Israel is the only place where they are increasing. Those peopel that you talk about did'nt disappear.

[Illancha]

Hmmm...

[Philo]

I lived in Jordan, a country it seems you underestimate in terms of tolerance and stability. Jordan is also a safehaven for Christians in Middle-East, it has democratic parlimentary elections and a secular constitution although I will grant you that the Monarch does have significant influence. The living standards are good and no minority or group is persecuted or discriminated against.

Anyway back to what I was discussing. There are more than 4 million Palestinian refugees in the world, is Israel willing to let them back in? The demographic shift would be too drastic and therefore I doubt they would let that happen.
HAHA that is why i said ONE OF THE ONLY and not the only:). And yeah Jordan is much better in that regard from Lebanon, Egypt and Syria.

Those people are'nt refugees. they are living in perfectly fine conditions, for example in chile they are completely not what you would call refugees. And after the 1948 israeli-arab war, they fled to the near arab states, and what did they get from them? I hope you know the answer. Perhaps instead of crying for them the arab countries are ought to give them better living conditions instead of throwing them in filthy and dirty refugee camps. Now those people are definitely refugees.
Of course Israel won't let them in since they want to throw the israelis into the sea. Look at how many terrorist attacks they have commited:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks
notice the ones in the start of the 3rd millenium. that's what i meant when i said nobody gave a fuck in the 2nd intifada.
rocket attacks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

[Illancha]

Hmmm...

[Philo]

Of course they ought to provide them with better living conditions, but it is not their responisibility to do so and many of them are not equipped to deal with such huge numbers. You see the problem isn't dealing with refugees it is how the refugees were created.

Having said that, Jordan has done its absolute best to provide for refugees. It has gone above and beyond the call of duty. However, despite the massive improvements in Jordan it still struggles to accomodate all the refugees flocking in from all sides. I mean first there was Palestine then Kuwait, Iraq, Tunis, Libya, Egypt and now Syria. It was hard enough already and it's getting too much to handle.

If those refugess would return to israel, would their lives get any better? I doubt that. The arab world is on constant inter-islamic warfare of shia vs sunna. Once israel is declared "jew-free" there will just start another(probably HUGE because the entire middle-east will be arab or muslim) war between the shia and sunna muslims, and than there will be refugees again. This time they won't be "palestinians" obviously. It's a dead end for now.

[Illancha]

Hmmm...

[SkyBurn]

This really does deserve another thread.

Can a resident moderator split the Palestine/Israel issue to another thread please?

Please don't start that.

It's a flamewar begging to happen.

[Anglojew]

I lived in Jordan, a country it seems you underestimate in terms of tolerance and stability. Jordan is also a safehaven for Christians in Middle-East, it has democratic parlimentary elections and a secular constitution although I will grant you that the Monarch does have significant influence. The living standards are good and no minority or group is persecuted or discriminated against.

Anyway back to what I was discussing. There are more than 4 million Palestinian refugees in the world, is Israel willing to let them back in? The demographic shift would be too drastic and therefore I doubt they would let that happen.

Yes, Israel is willing to let them back in...to Palestine.

The whole point of 2 countries is one for Jews and one for them. Why is it that you ask Jews to solve both the Jewish refugee problem and also the Arab one and ask the Arabs to do nothing?

Israel has settled 3 million Jewish refugees so now Palestine (be it Gaza, West Bank and even Jordan) can solve their own refugee problem.

[Illancha]

Hmmm...

[RussiaPrussia]

are you seriously comparing that with the plans for total annihilation that the germans planned for the jews and the gypsies?
I am not denying what you say . For example alot of the russian commisars were killed just for being commisars, even after they were captured. German women were also raped. Out of the russians, a signficant % of them was killed in war, you said "Germans killed million russian civilians and 3 million pows were killed in concentration camps like jews" . that's 4 million out of 27 million.
as for this part:
"the same was for germany when the red army came back at them."
well you could'nt really expect mercy from them after what the Wehrmacht did to them..
I think you are missing the point here. Nobody ever denies the war crimes against other ethnicities like poles and russians, it's jsut that they were'nt subjected to the same "total annihilation" as jews and gypsies.

of course they were hitler planned lebensraum, and germans actually received a lot of war crimes from the british and americans with their bombings despite that germans never killed any american only few bombings by germany at london. But nothing in comparison to their bombings and eisenhowser deathcamps.

It also shows how racist youre instead counting every death equal you say because there is fewer people for a certain race or ethnicity their death is more worth. There died also 16 million chinese which are also heavily underrated.

A certain film says if you kill one person you kill humanity.

[Maleficent]

No it was'nt.. or did u not see the ~12 antisemitic garbage caricatures he posted?

Attack him back however the hell you want. I don't care. Just not like that.

[Maleficent]

yeah than perhaps you should educate yourself on the fact that jews have been living in israel for the last 3000 years and that "palestinains" was invented some time ago. Really I don't mind them just being called arabs. the "palestinain cause" is just straight out pan-arabism. Than again I do get some of your points about people being displaced from their homes, but the fact there is'nt piece is the arabs's fault. in 2000 and an israeli PM offered them the 1967 borders and they of course declined. Some further propositions have been made since than including massive
Concessions by the israelis and it did'nt work. they would not settle for anything less than jews in the sea. sorry if that offends you.
as for the part about being muslim, what i said was what i normally hear from muslims on anthro-boards.

Learn how to spell before you go posting on forums for mature people. It's Palestinian, not palestinain. Unless you purposely spelled it wrong as part of your insult, and sure as hell don't put Palestinian in quotations. We all know you are just doing that to insinuate Palestinians don't exist, and aren't a real people. The Palestinian Cause is not just straight out of pan-Arabism, if you believe that, then you are really naive. There is a lot more to it than that. A lot of people out there support the Palestinians. Don't talk shit about 1967 borders; with 1967 borders, Israel still has the majority of the land. Palestinians should not have to settle. And, stop accusing Palestinians of wanting to throw Jews in the sea. Give them back their land, along with a two-state solution.

[Anglojew]

Learn how to spell before you go posting on forums for mature people. It's Palestinian, not palestinain. Unless you purposely spelled it wrong as part of your insult, and sure as hell don't put Palestinian in quotations. We all know you are just doing that to insinuate Palestinians don't exist, and aren't a real people. The Palestinian Cause is not just straight out of pan-Arabism, if you believe that, then you are really naive. There is a lot more to it than that. A lot of people out there support the Palestinians. Don't talk shit about 1967 borders; with 1967 borders, Israel still has the majority of the land. Palestinians should not have to settle. And, stop accusing Palestinians of wanting to throw Jews in the sea. Give them back their land, along with a two-state solution.

Palestinian Nationalism is by definition the opposite of pan-Arabism.

The Arabs control about 90% of the Mandate of Palestine eg Jordan, Gaza and Areas A and B of the West Bank.

[MarkyMark]

I always thought Palestianians were descendants of Phillistenes and Jews. With that said I don't understand why Amichair is so anti-Palestinian. You must admit that the Jews left their homeland for a large part, and that land then belonged to the Palestinians who have been on that land for equally as long as Jews. I think Jews are just too confrontational sometimes and always have to get what they want.

[Maleficent]

I always thought Palestianians were descendants of Phillistenes and Jews. With that said I don't understand why Amichair is so anti-Palestinian. You must admit that the Jews left their homeland for a large part, and that land then belonged to the Palestinians who have been on that land for equally as long as Jews. I think Jews are just too confrontational sometimes and always have to get what they want.

Amichair is Israeli.....

[Meow]

the Jewnited States of America :

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[Cristiano viejo]

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Yes, you hate Christians (normal in Jews), you have demostrated it now.

I'm sorry. I don't hate christians at all but that tard christian whatever his name is was getting on my nerves.

:love::love::love::love:

[Philo]

of course they were hitler planned lebensraum, and germans actually received a lot of war crimes from the british and americans with their bombings despite that germans never killed any american only few bombings by germany at london. But nothing in comparison to their bombings and eisenhowser deathcamps.

It also shows how racist youre instead counting every death equal you say because there is fewer people for a certain race or ethnicity their death is more worth. There died also 16 million chinese which are also heavily underrated.



A certain film says if you kill one person you kill humanity.
No i'm not racist. There is a difference between being planned for total annilihation and other forms of war crimes, and I bet you know it very well. I can't compare poeple who died in war to people who died in camps. If we go by that than alot of jewish trooppers died in the war, should we count them in the holocaust number of people murdered as well? I don't think so. I am also not racist because i acknowledged the fact that gypsies were killed just as much as jews.
Give me a link to the eisenhower deathcamps. I'd like to read about that.
I agree about the chinese.
As for your last line, it reminds me of a famous quote by Stalin:

The death of one is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic


Learn how to spell before you go posting on forums for mature people. It's Palestinian, not palestinain. Unless you purposely spelled it wrong as part of your insult, and sure as hell don't put Palestinian in quotations. We all know you are just doing that to insinuate Palestinians don't exist, and aren't a real people. The Palestinian Cause is not just straight out of pan-Arabism, if you believe that, then you are really naive. There is a lot more to it than that. A lot of people out there support the Palestinians. Don't talk shit about 1967 borders; with 1967 borders, Israel still has the majority of the land. Palestinians should not have to settle. And, stop accusing Palestinians of wanting to throw Jews in the sea. Give them back their land, along with a two-state solution.
I did not spell wrong on purpose. I just type fast. I will do whatever I want with my quotations.
Do you know what 2-state solution means? It means palestinians get what was theirs before 1967, that is before the 6 day war. that by itself is a huge concession considering how much israel conquered on the 6 day war. Israeli PM'S offered palestinian PM'S that and were rejected time after time.


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Yes, you hate Christians (normal in Jews), you have demostrated it now.


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I don't hate chirsitans I just hat eyour sorry ass. If it is normal in jews than how come so many jews marry christians? You won't have any answer obviously.
Now get out of here and stop derailing this thread with antisemitic caricatures.


I always thought Palestianians were descendants of Phillistenes and Jews. With that said I don't understand why Amichair is so anti-Palestinian. You must admit that the Jews left their homeland for a large part, and that land then belonged to the Palestinians who have been on that land for equally as long as Jews. I think Jews are just too confrontational sometimes and always have to get what they want.

I get som eof your points. However you have to understand that palestinain leadership made it clear they don't want peace. like this video:
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Amichair is Israeli.....

You're a Levantine arab..


Palestinian Nationalism is by definition the opposite of pan-Arabism.

The Arabs control about 90% of the Mandate of Palestine eg Jordan, Gaza and Areas A and B of the West Bank.

That is not what Zoheir Mohsen, former Official of the PLO said. He's former because israel took him down btw.

Between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese there are no differences. We are all part of ONE people, the Arab nation. Look, I have family members with Palestinian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian citizenship. We are ONE people. Just for political reasons we carefully underwrite our Palestinian identity. Because it is of national interest for the Arabs to advocate the existence of Palestinians to balance Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new tool to continue the fight against Israel and for Arab unity.

A separate Palestinian entity needs to fight for the national interest in the then remaining occupied territories. The Jordanian government cannot speak for Palestinians in Israel, Lebanon or Syria. Jordan is a state with specific borders. It cannot lay claim on - for instance - Haifa or Jaffa, while I AM entitled to Haifa, Jaffa, Jerusalem en Beersheba. Jordan can only speak for Jordanians and the Palestinians in Jordan. The Palestinian state would be entitled to represent all Palestinians in the Arab world en elsewhere. Once we have accomplished all of our rights in all of Palestine, we shouldn't postpone the unification of Jordan and Palestine for one second.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuheir_Mohsen

[MarkyMark]

You're a Levantine arab..

I have to disagree with you there. I know some Palestinian Christians and they looked very Semitic(as in the middle-eastern group of families, not Jewish necesarily) but not like what Arabs look like. Arabs usually have a dark tan and well...just features totally foreign to the Levant. In Syria you can immediately tell who is an Arab and who isn't. Judging based off of what I know of Arabs, these were not Arabs. Palestinian Muslims? Maybe so. Maybe they are a mix of Arab and native Palestinian.

[Cristiano viejo]

I don't hate chirsitans I just hat eyour sorry ass. If it is normal in jews than how come so many jews marry christians? You won't have any answer obviously.
How that do I have no answer?? I have two :thumb001:
Jews marry with Christians, firstly because we are more handsome :D, and after because you want to destroy the white race marrying you with it
:thumb001:


Now get out of here and stop derailing this thread with antisemitic caricatures.

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[Aquafina]

How that do I have no answer?? I have two :thumb001:
Jews marry with Christians, firstly because we are more handsome :D, and after because you want to destroy the white race marrying you with it
:thumb001:


http://www.nodo50.org/palestinalliure/IMG/jpg/antisemita_20prensa_VINETA_VERGARA.jpg

Dumbest thing I have ever heard.

[Philo]

I have to disagree with you there. I know some Palestinian Christians and they looked very Semitic(as in the middle-eastern group of families, not Jewish necesarily) but not like what Arabs look like. Arabs usually have a dark tan and well...just features totally foreign to the Levant. In Syria you can immediately tell who is an Arab and who isn't. Judging based off of what I know of Arabs, these were not Arabs. Palestinian Muslims? Maybe so. Maybe they are a mix of Arab and native Palestinian.

Arab = speaker of arabic. that's what i meant.


How that do I have no answer?? I have two :thumb001:
Jews marry with Christians, firstly because we are more handsome :D, and after because you want to destroy the white race marrying you with it
:thumb001:


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Goddamn you're so fucking mature.
Yeah so we marry christians because we hate them. You said it's "normal for jews to hate christians". So we hate them but we marry them.
You're a sad excuse for a human.

[Cristiano viejo]

Yeah so we marry christians because we hate them. You said it's "normal for jews to hate christians". So we hate them but we marry them.

In the same way that you let to Palestinian workers to go to work to Israel ;);):bored::bored:

[Philo]

In the same way that you let to Palestinian workers to go to work to Israel ;);):bored::bored:

Sure buddy... sure...:picard2:

[Permafrost]

A blatant lie, there was no holocaust. Auschwitz was in fact a cookie factory.

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[Graus]

The victims of the "Holocaust" shouldnt be privileged compared to the rest of the war casualties. In the end intentions doesnt matter only the outcome. And the death of a jew was certainly no more tragic than those of a christian or atheist.

[Anglojew]

The victims of the "Holocaust" shouldnt be privileged compared to the rest of the war casualties. In the end intentions doesnt matter only the outcome. And the death of a jew was certainly no more tragic than those of a christian or atheist.

So the death of an SS officer, Nazi member, on the Russia front is worth the same as a gypsy boy murdered at age 5 for nothing more than his skin colour?

[Graus]

So the death of an SS officer, Nazi member, on the Russia front is worth the same as a gypsy boy murdered at age 5 for nothing more than his skin colour?

I dont consider the death of a child more tragic than those of a veteran.

[Anglojew]

I dont consider the death of a child more tragic than those of a veteran.

That's your prerogative.

[Hesperión]

I dont consider the death of a child more tragic than those of a veteran.In that, too, Germans are not different from Jews

Palestinian children: Born in captivity (http://jpstillwater.blogspot.com.es/2012/03/palestinian-children-born-in-captivity.html)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Hiov5YUFeVg/TfeEwsPm2gI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/EvI10Po4Eu8/s1600/reg03.jpg

World War II and Jewish children (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://edu.glogster.com/media/4/32/33/86/32338646.jpg&imgrefurl=http://bw005.edu.glogster.com/world-war-ii-and-jewish-children/&usg=__Oc76jGSvZfPvdRaIKMqUUAeiTQk=&h=284&w=350&sz=12&hl=es&start=9&sig2=xJ7VHB_glDzE2deGZFNm0Q&zoom=1&tbnid=0zusFFuA0Db1mM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=120&ei=1GT1UNzYJMWRhQe6koDQDQ&um=1&itbs=1)
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[Graus]

In that, too, Germans are not different from Jews

Palestinian children: Born in captivity (http://jpstillwater.blogspot.com.es/2012/03/palestinian-children-born-in-captivity.html)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Hiov5YUFeVg/TfeEwsPm2gI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/EvI10Po4Eu8/s1600/reg03.jpg

World War II and Jewish children (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://edu.glogster.com/media/4/32/33/86/32338646.jpg&imgrefurl=http://bw005.edu.glogster.com/world-war-ii-and-jewish-children/&usg=__Oc76jGSvZfPvdRaIKMqUUAeiTQk=&h=284&w=350&sz=12&hl=es&start=9&sig2=xJ7VHB_glDzE2deGZFNm0Q&zoom=1&tbnid=0zusFFuA0Db1mM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=120&ei=1GT1UNzYJMWRhQe6koDQDQ&um=1&itbs=1)
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Normally neither a child nor a veteran want to die. But there are actually more people depending on the veteran: his family, his comrades and to a certain degree his country. A 5 year old, especially one from those two mentioned cultures (Gypsys, Palestinians) is easier to replace.
Soldiers should try to avoid civil casulties, however if it would put them in a disproportional danger to avoid it...
Collateral damage has always been a part of warfare.

[Teyrn]

This holocaust thread is heilarious and reichdiculous and will probably go on for another 30+ pages.

[Petersburg]

The answer is here :D
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[Hesperión]

Normally neither a child nor a veteran want to die. But there are actually more people depending on the veteran: his family, his comrades and to a certain degree his country. A 5 year old, especially one from those two mentioned cultures (Gypsys, Palestinians) is easier to replace.
Soldiers should try to avoid civil casulties, however if it would put them in a disproportional danger to avoid it...
Collateral damage has always been a part of warfare.You truly belong to a different race. I'd even go as far as to say to a different species.

[Bobby Six Killer]

I'm sorry. I don't hate christians at all but that tard christian whatever his name is was getting on my nerves. Right in his sweet spot as well:D.

Jesus was very agnostic actually

[Cristiano viejo]

The International Red Cross counted the number of deaths in the concentration camps in 282.000, mentioning the causes of death. Barely half of them were Jewish. Most died of typhus due to the harsh conditions of the war, disease that claimed the lives of doctors, nurses and administrative staff of the fields.This is the original report in German exhibited in the Museum of Arolsen: Recognizing the truth in 1984!. And the more horny: this is from a country where penalizes denial of the Holohoax! :lightbul::lightbul:

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[Philo]

Nobody's listening to you Cristiano.

Jesus was very agnostic actually
Was he?:confused:

[Maleficent]

Jesus was very agnostic actually

How so?! Proof?!

[rhiannon]

I dont consider the death of a child more tragic than those of a veteran.

I do. The child did nothing to deserve death. The child is innocent and should be protected as investment in our future as human beings.

But I'm a mother and this makes me totally biased lol:)

[Caismeachd]

People should read Victor Frankl's Man's Seach for Meaning. It's quite good.

[Graus]

I do. The child did nothing to deserve death. The child is innocent and should be protected as investment in our future as human beings.

But I'm a mother and this makes me totally biased lol:)

I agree with children being innocent and worthy and in need of our protection. But how would you feel, if you had a son in the military? People nowadays tend to see soldiers a mere tools, you can easily replace when being "broken". Soldiers are somebodys sons, brothers and maybe even husband and father. And for a long time, they werent even volunteers but just ordinary young men, not old enough to drink, drive or vote by our standards.

I respect your feelings as a mother. However your feelings or lets say the intensity isnt the same in every mother there is. Those strong attachment is relatively new in our species, women in the past or in very poor undeveloped countries tend to have a slightly different much more pragmatic approach. Which they obviously need to have, how else could they deal with such high numbers of child mortality?
And this was/ is true for many cases regarding Gypsies and Palestinians. Many Gypsies live in filth and teach their children to steal or even prostitute their daughters. While many Palestinians raise their children to become a martyr.
I wish all mothers could afford to and would feel like you but unfortunately thats not the case.

But then I am also biased because I am a former soldier.

[SKYNET]

holocaust? No idea, I can't recognize this word, I know localhost.

[Hesperión]

But then I am also biased because I am a former soldier.So?

I'm a former soldier too but that doesn't mean that I'm a psychopath.

[Graus]

So?

I'm a former soldier too but that doesn't mean that I'm a psychopath.

So how does crying over all the injustice in the world, work for you? I am a nationalist, my concern is foremost for my own people and I am not going to apologise for it.

[bella1407]

Real.

[pinguino]

The holocaust is real. The numbers are real as well.
Sure, not only Jews died because of Nazi, German and European madness. Also millions of Slavs, Gypsies, communists and other groups were aniquilated, but that's not excuse.

Sure, the state of Israel treat Palestinians badly, but that isn't a excuse, either.

The truth is that the Holocaust was caused by White racism. And Nazi ideology was pathetic, based on pagan beliefs that only idiots could accept as true.

Lesson: control white racists.

[Cristiano viejo]

The holocaust is real. The numbers are real as well.
Sure, not only Jews died because of Nazi, German and European madness. Also millions of Slavs, Gypsies, communists and other groups were aniquilated, but that's not excuse.

Sure, the state of Israel treat Palestinians badly, but that isn't a excuse, either.

The truth is that the Holocaust was caused by White racism. And Nazi ideology was pathetic, based on pagan beliefs that only idiots could accept as true.

Lesson: control white racists.

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[sturmwalkure]

It's a hoax.

[pinguino]

It's a hoax.

Hey Russian. Do you know how many soviets killed that pig of Hitler? 20 millions!

You should be ashamed to venerate a monster that hated so much Slavs like yourself.

[sturmwalkure]

Hey Russian. Do you know how many soviets killed that pig of Hitler? 20 millions!

You should be ashamed to venerate a monster that hated so much Slavs like yourself.

A troll, how lovely. :bored:

[Cristiano viejo]

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[rhiannon]

I agree with children being innocent and worthy and in need of our protection. But how would you feel, if you had a son in the military? People nowadays tend to see soldiers a mere tools, you can easily replace when being "broken". Soldiers are somebodys sons, brothers and maybe even husband and father. And for a long time, they werent even volunteers but just ordinary young men, not old enough to drink, drive or vote by our standards. I do not see soldiers in the same way. However, we must agree that soldiers are not uniquely innocent in the same way a small child is. It breaks my heart to see our nation's young off fighting wars they had no part in making. As a mother, if my son comes to me in 13-15 years and tells me he wants to join the infantry on some front line somewhere in the ME or wherever, I will be doing my utmost to dissuade him from such decision. I have no wish to see my only son die at the hands of the machine. I know damned good and well how the political machine runs in this country. My son shouldn't die as a result of it:( If that makes me unpatriotic, then so be it. I have nothing but admiration and respect for our troops who mostly have no say in what they're being told to do.


I respect your feelings as a mother. However your feelings or lets say the intensity isnt the same in every mother there is. Those strong attachment is relatively new in our species, women in the past or in very poor undeveloped countries tend to have a slightly different much more pragmatic approach Yes. They do. Life is cheaper in those countries, and I as a lucky member of the first world find that very tragic. I wish to God I had the power to do more to help. My family has taken a few small steps in this direction, thankfully....but it's only a mere drop in the bucket:(

Which they obviously need to have, how else could they deal with such high numbers of child mortality?Sadly, this is also true:(

And this was/ is true for many cases regarding Gypsies and Palestinians. Many Gypsies live in filth and teach their children to steal or even prostitute their daughters. While many Palestinians raise their children to become a martyr.I hate what is happening over in Israel and feel the Palestinians are still more victim than Oppressor. The power balance is just not there. There are so many Palestinians and Israelis who want nothing more than to live their lives in peace. Those are the people I am thinking of when I advocate for a Two State Solution.

I wish all mothers could afford to and would feel like you but unfortunately thats not the case.Same here.


But then I am also biased because I am a former soldier.
I understand.:)

[Sine Labe]

When somebody sits down and views some of the degenerate horror films that are coming out these days, its not so far of a stretch of mind to think the same people could turn a simple delousing process and cremation of diseased corpses for health and safety of other inmates, into a grizzly death factory with shrunken heads, soap tales, diamond shitting and furnaces, all because they didn't like the Germans for making them emigrate.

This quote by Alex Linder is an interesting way to think of it:

"The average white person believes in the Holocaust because, having met jews, he assumes without chewing that it makes perfect sense that someone would try to expunge the jew blot from the Western canvas. The nature of the jew makes "the Holocaust" plausible; so jewy is the jew it makes the demand for evidence of this "Holocaust" seem absurd and redundant. Who wouldn't want to wipe Wiesel from the face of the earth?"

[Gustave H]

Just curious. Do you believe in the Holocaust? Please explain why you do or do not.

[Smaug]

Of course.

[Instinct]

Yes, I believe in Holocaust and it's a very important thing everybody should know and believe.

[Bahaman]

Holocaust is real.

The main question is not of the validity of Holocaust but the numbers of Jews that were extarminated. I don't believe that 6 million died but most likely around 1 - 1.6 millions at best.

[Gustave H]

Holocaust is real.

The main question is not of the validity of Holocaust but the numbers of Jews that were extarminated. I don't believe that 6 million died but most likely around 1 - 1.6 millions at best.

Finally, a somewhat decent post out of you. I agree with George Lincoln Rockwell's estimate of about 600,000 tops, and I don't believe many of the mainstream Holocaust "facts".

[Virtuous]

I believe I can fly.

I believe I can touch the sky.

[Longbowman]

Holocaust is real.

The main question is not of the validity of Holocaust but the numbers of Jews that were extarminated. I don't believe that 6 million died but most likely around 1 - 1.6 millions at best.

Well there's a list of around 5 million *Jewish* names not to mention Gypsies and disabled people and random Poles and so on but it doesn't matter, does it? What matters it there was a concerted attempt to wipe out said groups. The fact that they weren't as good at it as they might have been is neither here nor there.

Anyway, to not believe in the Holocaust is to, even looking aside the hard physical evidence, believe the vast, vast, vast majority of all Soviet and Allied and even German men and women who were there lied about it including Eichmann and most of the Nuremberg defendants and even just random everyday Nazis, of whom there are tens of thousands of accounts. And then there's the belief that pretty much every single contemporary Jew, Gypsy, etc. lied about it too, not to mention political prisoners and Allied soldiers who were imprisoned in camps near concentration camps, such as at Auschwitz. To put it simply, to not believe in the Holocaust is to put an idealised view of the Third Reich above your own country and your own grandparents.

You could suggest the numbers were embellished - it's human nature to embellish - but even then I don't think there's much room for manoeuvre.

[dude]

Yes, it is real. I don't know the numbers, but not only Jews died, but also full blooded German who were found guilty to openly disagree with the Third Reich.

[LightHouse89]

No because it was a Hollywood set....with cameras and you can eve see Hollywood signs in some of the pictures behind in the background. So I think it was just theatrics.

[Aviator]

Whether it did or didn't happen ultimately makes no difference.

[LightHouse89]

Yes, it is real. I don't know the numbers, but not only Jews died, but also full blooded German who were found guilty to openly disagree with the Third Reich.

:rolleyes: we should check under the bed for monsters too.

[LightHouse89]

I believe I can fly.

I believe I can touch the sky.

I think about it every night and day...........I spread my wings and just fly away :thumb001:

[Bahaman]

Well there's a list of around 5 million *Jewish* names not to mention Gypsies and disabled people and random Poles and so on but it doesn't matter, does it? What matters it there was a concerted attempt to wipe out said groups. The fact that they weren't as good at it as they might have been is neither here nor there.

Anyway, to not believe in the Holocaust is to, even looking aside the hard physical evidence, believe the vast, vast, vast majority of all Soviet and Allied and even German men and women who were there lied about it including Eichmann and most of the Nuremberg defendants and even just random everyday Nazis, of whom there are tens of thousands of accounts. And then there's the belief that pretty much every single contemporary Jew, Gypsy, etc. lied about it too, not to mention political prisoners and Allied soldiers who were imprisoned in camps near concentration camps, such as at Auschwitz. To put it simply, to not believe in the Holocaust is to put an idealised view of the Third Reich above your own country and your own grandparents.

You could suggest the numbers were embellished - it's human nature to embellish - but even then I don't think there's much room for manoeuvre.
Genocide is genocide. There's no going around it.

Still genoicide of Jews is not such an tragic event(like its constantly portayed) considering that out of 6 million jews only 200k were German jews. So Germans only responsible for slaughtering 200k german jews because it was really backstabbing and treacherous of them. Such a cowardly act is unforgiviable. But jews(that got extermanitaed) from conquered countries is only to blame the Host nations that were to weak to protect their countries.

[LightHouse89]

What do you know? you are just an ignorant redneck.

that isnt very nice cppman.....my feelings are hurt now. :picard1::sad::bitch::stop:dunno::mocking::nono::j ump0000:

[Longbowman]

No because it was a Hollywood set....with cameras and you can eve see Hollywood signs in some of the pictures behind in the background. So I think it was just theatrics.

I think you're thinking of something else.

[Raikaswinþs]

Theres nothing to believe. Its a proven fact. I have been there, have talked to many of the elder that lived in the Oswiecim area, I have seen the tons of evidence. Its not a matter of belief, its a matter of acceptance.

Another issue is that Jewlywood often"forgets" that the Nazis not only targeted Jews and Jews were not te only victims. They often fail to pay attention to human disasters far greater than the European holoaust that occured at the same time roughly (Specially in Communist Russia, where Jews were sometimes involved) .

[dude]

that isnt very nice cppman.....my feelings are hurt now. :picard1::sad::bitch::stop:dunno::mocking::nono::j ump0000:
I'm sure they hurt very bad, .... bad bad bad... by the way, the monster are in the closet.

[Longbowman]

Whether it did or didn't happen ultimately makes no difference.

Yes, I don't think people need to factor it into their ideologies.

[LightHouse89]

I think you're thinking of something else.

:jump0000::usa2: I am not sure.

[dude]

I think about it every night and day...........I spread my wings and just fly away :thumb001:
That's some good stuff, did you go to Colorado recently?

[LightHouse89]

I'm sure they hurt very bad, .... bad bad bad... by the way, the monster are in the closet.

But they hide under beds too. I am too scared to check :p:bored:

[Longbowman]

:jump0000::usa2: I am not sure.

Just to check, you are aware the Holocaust isn't a film of the Holocaust? I feel like you're confusing an historical event with a depiction of said event...

[LightHouse89]

That's some good stuff, did you go to Colorado recently?

Yes it is legal to spend time with Marry Jane in public now I hear.

[dude]

No because it was a Hollywood set....with cameras and you can eve see Hollywood signs in some of the pictures behind in the background. So I think it was just theatrics.
Of course, they did the same thing with the Moon landing. And the aliens are real.

[dude]

But they hide under beds too. I am too scared to check :p:bored:
No, not under the bad, they lied to you.

[Dictator]

I don't believe in the way it is being portrayed. It needs a revision.

[LightHouse89]

Just to check, you are aware the Holocaust isn't a film of the Holocaust? I feel like you're confusing an historical event with a depiction of said event...

It is so easy to make black and white movies and make props look like dead bodies....I mean Hollywood was more sophisticated than anything the Third Reich or any old world society could make.

[dude]

Yes it is legal to spend time with Marry Jane in public now I hear.
So they say, but who's to know.

[LightHouse89]

Of course, they did the same thing with the Moon landing. And the aliens are real.

The Aliens could be real. Why else would Area 51 be closed off to the public? :rolleyes:

[KawaiiKawaii]

The Holocaust is, like, totally a thing one should believe in. Yesterday, I was walking calmly, thinking about my day when a car drove past me full speed, almost hitting me. Suddenly, I fell on my knees, praying to the Holocaust and thanking him for saving my life.
I used not to have faith in the Holocaust, but two years ago, I went through a terrible experience and discovered the Holocaust. You are missing something if you don't believe in the Holocaust and I hope you will discover the Holocaust too.

[Longbowman]

I don't believe in the way it is being portrayed. It needs a revision.

Do you believe a large number of Jews, Gypsies etc. were systematically destroyed by the Third Reich because they were Jews, Gypsies etc?

[dude]

The Aliens could be real. Why else would Area 51 be closed off to the public? :rolleyes:
Area 51 is just a decoy, the Aliens are actually in NM.

[LightHouse89]

Theres nothing to believe. Its a proven fact. I have been there, have talked to many of the elder that lived in the Oswiecim area, I have seen the tons of evidence. Its not a matter of belief, its a matter of acceptance.

Another issue is that Jewlywood often"forgets" that the Nazis not only targeted Jews and Jews were not te only victims. They often fail to pay attention to human disasters far greater than the European holoaust that occured at the same time roughly (Specially in Communist Russia, where Jews were sometimes involved) .

Well I mean take the Mongol invasions and invasions of Iberia with the muslims....Hollywood never takes any of that into consideration. Nor the historical authenticity. We like to make our own history I guess.

[Dictator]

Do you believe a large number of Jews, Gypsies etc. were systematically destroyed by the Third Reich because they were Jews, Gypsies etc?

No doubt. But I still think it needs a revision.

[Bahaman]

I don't believe in the way it is being portrayed. It needs a revision.
But revision will lead to the "real" Holocaust. Do you even understand that?

[Longbowman]

No doubt. But I still think it needs a revision.

Well, then you believe in the Holocaust, bro.

[Linebacker]

You have to be a really big idiot to deny the holocaust considering there is overwhelming amounts of hard evidence.

[dude]

I think there should be a new religion based in Holocaust beliefs. Make sure it is registered as tax free with the government. Just like Scientology did.

[Bahaman]

Anyway, Holocaust is not big deal outside of USA and Germany probably. In Russia people more concerned about WW2 and Revolution. Nobody talks about Holocaust there.

[LieDetector]

No.54 million dead Christians and only 6 million dead jews.In a war they started.Far from a holocaust if ya do the math.No but seriously I've chimed in on to many of these threads.Just do some research and you'll find out things such as gas chambers for one are now proven lies.

[Bell Beaker]

I dont know.6 million are a Fraud! At max 2 million

[Rædwald]

The Armenian genocide too

[Bahaman]

The Armenian genocide too
You don't believe in both genocides?

[Rædwald]

You don't believe in both genocides?

No I was just drawing attention to the fact that most countries will not acknowledge the Armenian genocide. However saying the Jewish Holocaust didn't happen can land you five years in prison. Something to think about :rolleyes:

[Bahaman]

No I was just drawing attention to the fact that most countries will not acknowledge the Armenian genocide. However saying the Jewish Holocaust didn't happen can land you five years in prison. Something to think about :rolleyes:

So what was the point of bringing up Armenina genocide in Holocaust thread?

[Rædwald]

So what was the point of bringing up Armenina genocide in Holocaust thread?

Why should the loss of one group of people be viewed as a greater loss than any other?

[Bahaman]

Why should the loss of one group of people be viewed as a greater loss than any other?
And how does the occurence of armeninan genocide lessen the tragic nature of holocaust again?

[Rædwald]

And how does the occurence of armeninan genocide lessen the tragic nature of holocaust again?

Either you're an imbecile, or you're trolling me.

[Bahaman]

Either you're an imbecile, or you're trolling me.
No not trolling.

It's just you are not making any sense.

[StormBringer]

No I was just drawing attention to the fact that most countries will not acknowledge the Armenian genocide.

Which countries?I thought it was just Turkey.

[Rædwald]

Which countries?I thought it was just Turkey.

The United States still does not, and you certainly won't be punished for saying it didn't occur.

Edit: not wholly anyway

[Gustave H]

This thread is mildly entertaining. :cool:

[Tobi]

Yes, the nazi system killed jews, gypsies, etc. Nazism and zionism are the same shit in the end.

[Desaix DeBurgh]

What I have called the "Orthodox Jewish Version" of the Holocaust (OJV) was set in legal and historical cement at the Nuremberg trials after WWII. These trials were not a legal proceeding, but an act of Jewish revenge in which a large majority of the participants on the American side were Jews, in which the Germans on trial were treated with great brutality and often tortured (dozens had their testicles crushed, for example) in order to obtain "confessions", in which lies which persist to the present day were presented as evidence-supported "truth", and which was so inescapably Jewish that the death sentences of the defendants were carried out on the great annual celebration day of Jewish revenge, Purim (16 Oct 1946). In particular, the Nuremberg trials put the official seal of approval on the greatest of Jewish Big Lies, the Holocaust "genocide" (While it is commonly believed that Hitler developed the "Big Lie" technique, what he actually did (in Mein Kampf) was to accuse the Jews of using it). Not only has there never been any good evidence for nazi genocide (tho there was mass killing on the Eastern Front for reasons other than genocide), but the (in)famous story of the "six million" Jews supposedly killed by the nazis was in fact an anti-German propaganda story originating in the First World War (The "six million" story was actually impossible, because there were not even six million Jews in Europe during the WWII period. The true number of Jews who died in the camps -- most from typhus and other diseases -- has now been shown from the complete file of the German concentration camp system released from the former Soviet Archives to have been approximately 400,000 (Douglas (1997): 28). As to the notorious "gas chambers", the story was not only another case of wartime propaganda, but was actually a reversal of what actually happened: At all concentration camps there were "gas chambers" in which cyanide gas was used to decontaminate the clothing of new inmates which often contained lice, these insects being the principal vector of typhus which was the major killer in the camps. Or to put it another way, the camps' "gas chambers" were actually intended to save Jewish lives. The Holocaust lies continue to crumble in the face of revisionist scholarship -- the story of soap made from Jewish fat and lampshades made from Jewish skin have been acknowledged as fabrications, for example, tho there are or were (especially in the 1990s) still occasional stories in the media of Jews holding burial ceremonies for ancient bars of soap; and even the fabled "six million" Jewish deaths has now officially (if indirectly) been acknowledged as false, since -- with the publication by Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum of Franciszek Piper's research in 1991 -- the supposed death toll at Auschwitz has been reduced from 4 to 1.1 million, tho the real figure is actually much less (Barnes Review, August 1996: Editorial), and where is old lefty Bob Dylan to sing us a song about "Where Have All the Bodies Gone?". Worse than this, the lies of the ignoble prizewinner and greatest of all Shoah (Holocaust) business promoters Elie "The Weasel" Wiesel are beginning to come home to haunt him in a big way -- on 6 May 1996, when Wiesel spoke at the University of Washington at Seattle, students handed out or posted hundreds of leaflets containing 15 "interesting questions" about Wiesel's activities, including whether he still maintains that "geysers of blood 'spurted'" from mass graves at Babi Yar in Ukraine (Wiesel didn't actually maintain this, but quoted 'eyewitness accounts' concerning which he apparently exhibited no skepticism), and whether he still believes that "Every Jew, somewhere in his being, should set apart a zone of hate -- healthy, virile hate -- for what the German personifies and for what persists in the German" (Smith, 1996: 4f). Too bad they didn't ask him how he managed to get liberated from two concentration camps, as an account published in the Christian News states he has maintained, or how he managed to survive after supposedly being knocked a full city block by a NY cabbie, as discussed in a Smith Report from the 1990s; but in any event, it seems clear that the OJV is not so much a Big Lie as it is a Big Joke.

The claim that the nazis were guilty of a "holocaust" and "genocide" against Jews has a special irony. The reason is that, while Jews have whined incessantly about being "victimized", the reality is that they have far more often been the victimizers; and that all the song and dance about the Holocaust has been a superb disguise for this fact, and an excellent medium for carrying the whine -- which might perhaps be said to be a sort of nonstop Grateful Dead concert, since the Jewish dead would surely be grateful that their racial brethren could make so much hoopla and moolah out of it. The numerous holocausts and genocides of which the communists and/or Jews (Communism was largely Jewish phenomenon) have been responsible include the WWII Katyn massacre in Poland (which eliminated 15,000 members of Poland's military and intellectual elite), the post-WWII Polish Office of State Security massacres of German civilians (60-80,000 deaths, described in Sack (1993)), the massacre of the Christian Russian kulaks of 1924-30 (15 million killed), the Ukranian holocaust of 1930-33 (7 million starved to death), the holocaust of Russian political dissidents of 1919-49 (12 million dead), the Spanish Civil War massacre of Spanish Christians, the various massacres of Palestinians (Deir Yassin, Qana and others), and so on (Fields (nd)). Needless to say, not a single Jew has ever been prosecuted for any of these massacres. Furthermore, it is testament to Jewish media influence that references to "the Holocaust" and "the six million" are an almost-daily occurrence, while there is never a reference to Jewish Bolshevism's 50 million, or the larger communist movement's 100 million. Significant in this context is the 1941 book Germany Must Perish by Jewish writer Theodore Kaufman -- widely publicized at the time -- which advocated sterilization of all Germans and the parcelling out of Germany to neighboring states (Weber (1996): 33). This mirror-image of nazi ideology which was published before the US entered the war may have inspired the post WWII Morgenthau Plan, which bore the name of FDR's Jewish Secretary of the Treasury Robert Morgenthau (tho it was actually written by Jewish communist spy and Treasury undersecretary Harry Dexter White), a plan which -- in the words of Secretary of State Cordell Hull -- was "aimed at the massacre, enslavement and liquidation of the [post-WWII] German people" (Marshalko (1958): 111). One might even argue that the various racial policies (immigration, integration, "civil rights", affirmative action, welfare, etc) instituted by liberals (among which Jews are the most influential component) are actually acts of genocide against American whites, since the result of these policies is that whites are now projected to be a minority in their own country in only 30 or so years.

Sources :

Douglas, Gregory, "The Browning Version: Hitler, Genocide and an Examination of Sources", Barnes Review, May 1997: 27ff

Editorial, "The Auschwitz Anniversary -- An Occasion for Historical Revision", Barnes Review, March 1995

Smith, Bradley, "Some interesting questions for Professor Elie Wiesel", Smith Report, June 1996: 4f

Sack, John, An Eye for an Eye: The Untold Story of Jewish Revenge Against Germans in 1945, Basic Books, 1993

Fields, Dr ER, Was There Really a Holocaust?, Truth at Last, nd

Weber, Charles E, "Goldhagen's 'Evil' Indictment of Germans", Journal of Historical Review, March/April 1996: 31ff

Marshalko, Louis, The World Conquerers, The Real War Criminals, Christian Book Club, 1958 (repr 1983)

[Ianus]

Yes of course, only ignorant and neonazi scum don't believe in the exhistence of holocaust. There are tons of proves, witness of survivors, documents of nazi, material proofs, confessions ecc.

[Svipdag]

I do not trust the figures, but I do not for a moment doubt that there was a deliberate effort to eliminate as many Jews, Gypsies, and other "inferior" peoples as possible. Did ALL of the survivors who were liberated from the Nazi concentration camps for Jews, etc. lie ?
I find that hard to accept. Of course, they would have known only the numbers of prisoners who died unnatural deaths during the time of their own imprisonment, not the alleged overall figures.

[Borna]

No.

[Desaix DeBurgh]

Yes of course, only ignorant and neonazi scum don't believe in the exhistence of holocaust. There are tons of proves, witness of survivors, documents of nazi, material proofs, confessions ecc.

Are you calling me igorant or neo-nazi scum ?You obviously didn't read my first post in this thread. You are the ignorant scum here because you would have to to effectively argue against what I wrote to prove your point and you obviously didn't do that. You seem like you have a low IQ. The confessions are not valid because they were obtained by torture at the Nuremberg trials, the material proofs are non-existant and many of the eye witnesses are Jews so that is subjective and not to be trusted because Jews will lie if it benefits them. Also, Nazi documents ? Even if the Nazis did commit what we know of as the mainstream version of the holocaust they wouldn't have been stupid enough (who is dumb enough to self-incriminate with a paper trail like that ?) to document the full scale of it so there is no way there are Nazi documents that collaborate the official version of the holocuast. Also, what about the Russian documents ?The true number of Jews who died in the camps -- most from typhus and other diseases -- has now been shown from the complete file of the German concentration camp system released from the former Soviet Archives to have been approximately 400,000

[Apollo]

Yes, only people who don't are Neo-Nazi retards.

[Smeagol]

Holocaust is real.

The main question is not of the validity of Holocaust but the numbers of Jews that were extarminated. I don't believe that 6 million died but most likely around 1 - 1.6 millions at best.

I Agree with this basically.

[Ianus]

Are you calling me igorant or neo-nazi scum ?You obviously didn't read my first post in this thread. You are the ignorant scum here because you would have to to effectively argue against what I wrote to prove your point and you obviously didn't do that. You seem like you have a low IQ. The confessions are not valid because they were obtained by torture at the Nuremberg trials, the material proofs are non-existant and many of the eye witnesses are Jews so that is subjective and not to be trusted because Jews will lie if it benefits them. Also, Nazi documents ? Even if the Nazis did commit what we know of as the mainstream version of the holocaust they wouldn't have been stupid enough (who is dumb enough to self-incriminate with a paper trail like that ?) to document the full scale of it so there is no way there are Nazi documents that collaborate the official version of the holocuast. Also, what about the Russian documents ?The true number of Jews who died in the camps -- most from typhus and other diseases -- has now been shown from the complete file of the German concentration camp system released from the former Soviet Archives to have been approximately 400,000

I hadan't read you, but i take your insults as a compliment:lol:

[Finsterer Streiter]

Useless poll, there's not only back and white but shades of grey.

[rhiannon]

Yes. It happened. The Victims were more than just Jews, though. The "Holocaust" also isn't the only Holocaust to have happened.

[Styrian Mujo]

Yes. My Slovene great grandfather actually died in Mauthausen. I don't think 6 million Jews perished tho.

[Cristiano viejo]

Yes. My Slovene great grandfather actually died in Mauthausen. I don't think 6 million Jews perished tho.
What was he doing in Mathausen? :blink:

[Vlachopat]

http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Anne-Frank-Lampshade.jpg

Holocaust is just like tooth fairy.You believe in it when your young and stupid but realize it is a joke when you get older.

[Bell Beaker]

Well.

Its funny how the Jewish stats after 1945 tells that there was more Jews after 1945 than before 1939.

[Bell Beaker]

Even more funny is to realize that in almost all European and European majority Christian countries all over the world you can believe that Jesus Christ was not real, you can make fun of Jesus, but you can't doubt about the Shoah!

And why is illegal? The Holodomar denial, Armenian Genocide denial, Rwuanda genocide Denial are legal.

So.....

[Longbowman]

Well.

Its funny how the Jewish stats after 1945 tells that there was more Jews after 1945 than before 1939.

It's funny how you pulled that fact out of nowhere.

Provide me with a source.

[Bell Beaker]

It's funny how you pulled that fact out of nowhere.

Provide me with a source.

1933
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/jews1933.jpg
1948

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/jews1948.jpg

Maybe Jews dont like to watch TV or dont have it....:rolleyes:

[Diërker]

holocaust is real

[Longbowman]

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/jews1933.jpg


http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/jews1948.jpg

The second table is undated bro.

[Bell Beaker]

The second table is undated bro.

584,549 MORE Jews in 1949 than in 1940

Meyers Handlexicon, Germany 1921 -- 11,600,000

World Almanac, 1925, pg. 752 -- 15,630,000, "In 1925 a census of Palestine gave a total of 115,151 Jews"

World Almanac, 1929, pg. 727 -- 15,630,000

National Council of Churches 1930 -- 15,600 ,000

March 24, 1933, Jewish newspaper Daily Express -- 14,000,000 Jews worldwide

World Almanac, 1933, pg. 419 -- 15,316,359, ["The estimate for Jews in the above table is for 1933, and is by the American Jewish Committee"

World Almanac, 1936, pg. 748 -- world Jewish population = 15,753,633

World Almanac, 1938, pg. 510 -- world Jewish population = 15,748,091, with 240,000 in Germany

American Jewish Committee Bureau of the Synagogue Council, 1939 -- 15,600,000

World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population -- 15,319,359

World Almanac, 1941, pg. 510: World Jewish Population -- 15,748,091

World Almanac, 1942, pg. 849: World Jewish Population -- 15,192,089 ("Jews include Jews by race not necessarily by religion")

World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population -- 15,690,000

World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289: World Jewish Population -- 15,713,638

Statistical Handbook of Council of Churches USA 1951 -- 15,300,000

Encyclopedia Britannica's 1955 Book of the Year -- 11,627,450, "Jewish figures include all Jews whether members of a synagogue or not"

World Almanac, US News & World Report, 1983 population of Jews -- 16,820,850

World Almanac, 1996, pg. 646: World Jewish Population -- 14,117,000

World Almanac & Book of Facts, 1989: World Jewish Population --18,080,000

World Almanac & Book of Facts, 2001: World Jewish Population -- 13,200,000

[Cristiano viejo]

It's funny how you pulled that fact out of nowhere.

Provide me with a source.

There is a thread somewhere in which there are a lot of proofs of this. I hope that any user gets it again.

[Longbowman]

584,549 MORE Jews in 1949 than in 1940

Meyers Handlexicon, Germany 1921 -- 11,600,000

World Almanac, 1925, pg. 752 -- 15,630,000, "In 1925 a census of Palestine gave a total of 115,151 Jews"

World Almanac, 1929, pg. 727 -- 15,630,000

National Council of Churches 1930 -- 15,600 ,000

March 24, 1933, Jewish newspaper Daily Express -- 14,000,000 Jews worldwide

World Almanac, 1933, pg. 419 -- 15,316,359, ["The estimate for Jews in the above table is for 1933, and is by the American Jewish Committee"

World Almanac, 1936, pg. 748 -- world Jewish population = 15,753,633

World Almanac, 1938, pg. 510 -- world Jewish population = 15,748,091, with 240,000 in Germany

American Jewish Committee Bureau of the Synagogue Council, 1939 -- 15,600,000

World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population -- 15,319,359

World Almanac, 1941, pg. 510: World Jewish Population -- 15,748,091

World Almanac, 1942, pg. 849: World Jewish Population -- 15,192,089 ("Jews include Jews by race not necessarily by religion")

World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population -- 15,690,000

World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289: World Jewish Population -- 15,713,638

Statistical Handbook of Council of Churches USA 1951 -- 15,300,000

Encyclopedia Britannica's 1955 Book of the Year -- 11,627,450, "Jewish figures include all Jews whether members of a synagogue or not"

World Almanac, US News & World Report, 1983 population of Jews -- 16,820,850

World Almanac, 1996, pg. 646: World Jewish Population -- 14,117,000

World Almanac & Book of Facts, 1989: World Jewish Population --18,080,000

World Almanac & Book of Facts, 2001: World Jewish Population -- 13,200,000

Dude.

Anyhow feel free to post some links for the others ones.

[Cristiano viejo]

584,549 MORE Jews in 1949 than in 1940

Meyers Handlexicon, Germany 1921 -- 11,600,000

World Almanac, 1925, pg. 752 -- 15,630,000, "In 1925 a census of Palestine gave a total of 115,151 Jews"

World Almanac, 1929, pg. 727 -- 15,630,000

National Council of Churches 1930 -- 15,600 ,000

March 24, 1933, Jewish newspaper Daily Express -- 14,000,000 Jews worldwide

World Almanac, 1933, pg. 419 -- 15,316,359, ["The estimate for Jews in the above table is for 1933, and is by the American Jewish Committee"

World Almanac, 1936, pg. 748 -- world Jewish population = 15,753,633

World Almanac, 1938, pg. 510 -- world Jewish population = 15,748,091, with 240,000 in Germany

American Jewish Committee Bureau of the Synagogue Council, 1939 -- 15,600,000

World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population -- 15,319,359

World Almanac, 1941, pg. 510: World Jewish Population -- 15,748,091

World Almanac, 1942, pg. 849: World Jewish Population -- 15,192,089 ("Jews include Jews by race not necessarily by religion")

World Almanac USA, 1947, pg. 748: World Jewish Population -- 15,690,000

World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289: World Jewish Population -- 15,713,638

Statistical Handbook of Council of Churches USA 1951 -- 15,300,000

Encyclopedia Britannica's 1955 Book of the Year -- 11,627,450, "Jewish figures include all Jews whether members of a synagogue or not"

World Almanac, US News & World Report, 1983 population of Jews -- 16,820,850

World Almanac, 1996, pg. 646: World Jewish Population -- 14,117,000

World Almanac & Book of Facts, 1989: World Jewish Population --18,080,000

World Almanac & Book of Facts, 2001: World Jewish Population -- 13,200,000

Dont worry, althought you put thousand proofs, they will continue deniying the facts.

[Styrian Mujo]

What was he doing in Mathausen? :blink:
The story goes that he was accused of helping and sheltering partisans/communists (wich he wasn't) so he was arrested and dragged away. After the Nazi invasion of Yugoslavia and the outbreak of the partisan resistance, many people suspected of aiding the Yugoslav resistance were sent to the Mauthausen camp, mostly from areas under direct German occupation, namely northern Slovenia and Serbia. An estimated 1,500 Slovenes died in Mauthausen.

[Heart of Oak]

Whilst working in Berlin I read Authentic SS documents they were very meticuluse, train times, numbers, names, ect...
I realise my spelling is not total...
Whilst readind these documents, I became aware of the fact that if they were forged (possible) There must have been a whole Battalion of cleric's at work for some years, I am of the opinion that most Deaths in camps was due to malnutrition ( spell check is off on perpous) Typhous and other diseases, due to the fact that food was short the services fead first then the civilians what was left may have made it to P.O.W.s then the camps fish soup seems to have been the usual welcome meal, medicine the same, because of the nature of the disease's the body's would have been burnt in mass in pit's, of coarse we are left with film of people kneeling ant shot to the back of the neck/head, these film's have been proven to have been doctored, FACT, of coarse some are real, but very few, if you choose to believe in the holocast you'll get no arguement from me, the same if you do not, life is full of choices, like wether to switch spell check on or not, in my case I wish to learn always...
It is time to move on nobody knows for sure that is alive today, why not talk about more resent case's of ethnic cleansing, Serbia for one, there are real alive war criminals there run them down...

[Alessio]

history

[Alessio]

Whilst working in Berlin I read Authentic SS documents they were very merticuluse, train times, numbers, names, ect...


You mean ''meticulous'' ?

[Alessio]

How come some people have voted on two different options...?

[Heart of Oak]

You mean ''meticulous'' ?
Thank-you, I am trying to improve my spelling, my post's are usually checked by Fortis, he is away on buisiness so I am left to my own devises...

[Alessio]

Thank-you, I am trying to improve my spelling, my post's are usually checked by Fortis, he is away on buisiness so I am left to my own devises...

I'm also constantly checking and improving my spelling, because my native tongue isn't English but Dutch :p