hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis
Laberia is my homeboy. But I love how you put that man.
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hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis
Laberia is my homeboy. But I love how you put that man.
The HellenoSlavoArvanitoVlachoTurk's head was created to butt heads in the mountains and mudwrestle. He puts his whole pride and person into his arguments and into his overall beliefs. When he argues he basically views it as a fight, where only might is right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis
The Lab look that sticks out the most is "compressed" look. Everything is short about this type of look, but not in the least graceful and refined manner possible. It's like a corruption of the Kukesian type.
Their faces look like they didn't grow outward but inward. Overall, though, in Vlona they look more like Kosovars than your average subhumanid Tironse does.
https://d32swstyppi9nx.cloudfront.ne...tmarefish8.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Herr Abubu
Kinda like this.
Also appreciate that Ghegs call it "Vlone" rather than "Vlore" since the pronunciation wasn't mediated through Slavs of Vagenetia in the case of Ghegs.
Why would it be mediated through these Slavs? I always assumed it was due to the rhotacism in Albanian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis
Actually, you are correct. I was forgetting that Albanian rhotacism can operate on its own without Slavs. The term "Laberia" is what I am thinking of. (Bulgarians changed Albania>Labania, then Tosk rhotacism changed Labania>Laberia just like Vlone>Vlore). It is still cool though that Ghegs pronounce it closer to the old Doric manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herr Abubu
What's the connection between Slavs and Albanian rhotacism? Sincerely curious. And I didn't know Laberia is just a Bulgarian-Slavic corruption of Albania. Though I wonder why only a specific group of Albanians should be Labs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis
There's no real connection between Tosk rhotacism and Slavic one, Just i confused the two issues here. ( I say Tosk here because such phenomenon apparently didn't affect Gheg pronunciation of the word).Quote:
Originally Posted by Herr Abubu
Yes, I guess Greeks/Romaioi were calling this area as "Albania" and Bulgarians corrupted it. Well, only Albanians in South had contact with Bulgarians- and the ones around Teplene- Sarande preserved it as a self-identifier. I suppose. It is just that Ghegs did not operate the rhotacism or did not have direct contact with Serbs- or most likely, Albanians were living in those areas in the North before Serbs arrived there, which (I think) we can't say for Labs/Tosks in the South.
Speaking of which, I guess you know the Serbs had some similar affect on this word:
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И пошто је обновио очеву дедовину и још више утврдио Божјом помоћу и својом мудрошћу даном му од Бога, и подиже пропалу своју дедовину и придоби од поморске земље Зету са градовима, а од Рабна оба Пилота, а од грчке земље патково, све Хвосно и Подримље, Кострц, Дршковину, Ситницу, Лаб, Липљан, Глбочицу, Реке, Ушку и Поморавље, Загрлату, Левче, Белицу. То све мудрошћу и трудом својим све ово придоби што му је припадало од српске земље, а одузето му некада насиљем од своје дедовине
From Life of Saint SimeonQuote:
And after he had restored his father's patrimony and fortified it with God's help, and with his God given wisdom, he resurrected his grandfather's land and he conquered: from Littoral land: Zeta with its cities, from Raban[Albania]: both districts of Pilot, and from the Greek land: Patkovo, all Hvosno and Podrimlje, Kostrc, Draškovina, Sitnica, Lab, Lipljan, Glbočica, Reke, Uska and Pomoravlje, Zagrlata, Levče, Belica. All that areas, which belonged to him in Serbian land and were taken by force from his patrimony, he recaptured with his wisdom and effort.
Raban is the West-Central form of the word, Laban the Eastern grouping's pronunciation. What affect this had on the the endonymy of Albanians isn't clear to me, or how it might be related to the fact that Albanians do not call themselves any form of this word today...
I am happy you are enjoying it guys.
By the way when you do it alone i know it's called "intellectual masturbation" but when you are a couple what can it be the proper definition??
If you were any smarter you'd know that pouty insults aren't witty achieve nothing but demonstrating your butthurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilir
If i were any smarter i would compete you in intellectual masturbation but i am not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herr Abubu
and you are wrong
when people are happy i am happy no matter what.
This'd be cute if you were a boy or Ylla. Tell us how insecure you are about the strong presence of Slavic Y-DNA markers in Tosks.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilir
Insecure about the strong presence means that there is not a strong presence is that right ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Herr Abubu
Yeah pretty insecure
There's nothing to be insecure about it. I have that very slavic ydna, and i am a gheg. For some reason before even got tested i always felt superior to all the ghegs i ever known or met in my life, and if this ydna is in a bigger presence amongst tosks then i can totaly understand why they feel so arrogantly superior and more civilized:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Herr Abubu
Just Albanize Magnolia and it will be great :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Drawing-slim
How much do you know about population genetics? Actually, nevermind the question, you're coping either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilir
Abubu and schola you are right , Kosovars and neo-Greeks are superior to Tosks , we're just mixed short swarthy people...Let's all praise the almighty KosovaroGreco genes the purest in the whole UNIVERSE !!!111!!!11
What is this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis
Here is my answer, exactly using your prefered scholar, Hammond:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4173569
Yes, this was what your elaborated previously:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis
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Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis
What`s the problem with Jochalas?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis
Scholarios, i invite you to stop following the example of davai, stop digging in the garbage.
First of all you have to tell what is your theory. Internet is full with every kind of information and disinformation. You have to decide what is your opinion. I think this is the right way to discuss and i am ready. The other way, i am sorry but i can`t follow you. You have here this bubu and you can exchange your liquids together.
Regards.
I know nothing about genetics but i suppose you do. Coping like you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herr Abubu
Source http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pbio.1001555
The highest levels of IBD sharing are found in the Albanian-speaking individuals (from Albania and Kosovo), an increase in common ancestry deriving from the last 1,500 years. This suggests that a reasonable proportion of the ancestors of modern-day Albanian speakers (at least those represented in POPRES) are drawn from a relatively small, cohesive population that has persisted for at least the last 1,500 years. These individuals share similar but slightly higher numbers of common ancestors with nearby populations than do individuals in other parts of Europe (see Figure S3), implying that these Albanian speakers have not been a particularly isolated population so much as a small one. Furthermore, our Greek and Macedonian samples share much higher numbers of common ancestors with Albanian speakers than with other neighbors, possibly a result of historical migrations, or else perhaps smaller effects of the Slavic expansion in these populations.
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By far the highest rates of IBD within any populations is found between Albanian speakers—around 90 ancestors from 0–500 ya, and around 600 ancestors from 500–1,500 ya (so high that we left them out of Figure 5; see Figure S12). Beyond 1,500 ya, the rates of IBD drop to levels typical for other populations in the eastern grouping.
May i agree with the only aproach that makes sense to you please???Quote:
Originally Posted by Herr Abubu
So you are asking how insecure i feel as a member of the most homogeneous population in Europe ??
Well that's a very hard question, it suit's Shcolarios intellectual level not mine
i can barely answer to you.
mos ngaterro kosovaret me nje dobic serv apo idiote qe nuk kane si te kalojne diten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ujku
Nuk eshte vetem aji..Quote:
Originally Posted by Laberia
Nuk ashte se duhet me shkru medoemos diçkaQuote:
Originally Posted by Ujku
E di, e shikoj, po tani me mire bej log out sic kane bere te tjeret por mos u ul ne ate nivel. Ti e shikon qe vetem ne te dy jemi ketu?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ujku
Man you're fucking dumb. I was talking about autosomal DNA, not Y-DNA. Y-DNA most certainly tells us about population movements. Autosomal DNA tells us very, very little, on the other hand, and you won't make much sense through it. IBD does, on the other hand. We share a lot of IBD blocks with Slavs going by that study, by the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilir
Ca thua??Quote:
Originally Posted by ilir
Une e thash nje gje edhe nuk shkruaj me , se po ta hap gojen te gjehin vrim te fyten kta.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laberia
Do te thosh qe vetem ne te dy jemi nga jugu?
Po, kush eshte tjeter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ujku
Furthermore, our Greek and Macedonian samples share much higher numbers of common ancestors with Albanian speakers than with other neighbors, possibly a result of historical migrations, or else perhaps smaller effects of the Slavic expansion in these populations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herr Abubu
Ok i am dump
can you explain this
pse flisni budalliqe kshtu? ato po kalojn diten, s'eshte nevoja te viktimizoni veten kot pa arsye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ujku
Ishte nje goce, qe jetonte ne athine .Quote:
Originally Posted by Laberia
Nuk ja mbaj mend emrin ka gati nje vit qe ma tha.
Albanians and Kosovars share more IBD with South Slavs than with Greeks. Greeks and Macedonians, on the other hand, share more with Albanians than they do with Slavs. What it means is both that Albanians affected these populations more than Slavs did and that they affected, and/or were affected less by, Slavic populations.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilir
From the same study,
http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology...o.1001555.g003
now shut the fuck up and stop embarrassing yourself.
Ore ti une e di qe ata tallin karin , po muhabeti eshte qe ka shume veta qe i mbeshtesin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drawing-slim
Varja ketij muhabeti. Sic te thashe. Hajt degjohemi, naten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ujku
O budall, a kupton cka domethan mos me e marr si cili sen personalisht edhe me debatu me fakte edhe arsyje? Mos thoni vetit burre kur jeni qaq emocionuese.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ujku
O rot kari hajde me mua ne behar ne sarande ose ne vlore edhe shiko me syt e tua se sa zezak edhe slav jemi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herr Abubu
Your getting nervous of me embarrasing my self lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Herr Abubu
That clearly means that albanians affected all these populations and specially south speaking slavs which we know in big part are slavspeaking albanians, ilirians or how you'd like to call them.
Now go to fuck your self and don't get nervous.
People must stop trolling albanians of being slavic. The only significant non balkan ancestry albos have is NOrman Viking.
Abubu has good news for youQuote:
Originally Posted by HellLander87
you have been fucked more from albanians than anybody else
i wanted to say affected
+ GothicQuote:
Originally Posted by HellLander87
Celtic as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Xhak Bauër